"Fuck Bitches Get Leid," the Sleazy Frat Emails of Snapchat'
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:27 pm"Fuck Bitches Get Leid," the Sleazy Frat Emails of Snapchat's CEO
by Sam Biddle
5/28/14 12:10pm
NOTICE: THIS WORK MAY BE PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT
Evan Spiegel, the boyish cofounder and CEO of Snapchat, is dying to be taken seriously. He rejected Mark Zuckerberg, opines like Steve Jobs, and hobnobs with media titans. But Spiegel's undergrad emails—when he began his path to Snapchat—show a different Evan. Did Steve Jobs ever joke about peeing on girls?
During his time at Stanford, Spiegel (now 23 years old) was a prominent brother of the university's Kappa Sigma chapter—a fraternity with a fraught record, temporarily kicked off campus for violating the school's "Controlled Substances and Alcohol Policy." The house was also a tiny tech incubator, and brought together the three boys whose fratty bond would eventually lead to the creation of Snapchat (after one was betrayed and screwed out of the deal, of course). Emails obtained by Valleywag show a slightly younger Spiegel shifting seamlessly from entrepreneur to a guy trying very hard to get girls so drunk, they might have sex with his friends. Who needs Y Combinator when you've got a stripper pole, your dad's swanky house in L.A., and some cocaine?
The screenshots below are cropped but otherwise unedited, except for phone numbers and the names of some Stanford alumni, which have been redacted at their request.
"Hope at least six girls sucked your dicks last night."
Fwd: Stripper Pole
"ACTION NEEDED... TO GET PI PHIS FUCKED UP"
Remember how we captured memories before Snapchat?
"Have some girl put your large kappa sigma dick down her throat."
"sigma nu decided to stop being gay"
"Papa Spiegel is liable for underage drinking, he's cool with it but probably not a good idea to take handles to the face." This same elder Spiegel lent his home to the Snapchat team as an improvised office during its early days.
Nothing like a fun Sally Hemmings theme for a party.
"Bobby is really high now." That would be Bobby Murphy, the co-founder who didn't get kicked out of the company.
"Sororisluts"
In the midst of all this, here's a professional email from Spiegel, without any talk of sucked dicks or blacking out, as he looks for help with FutureFreshman. This endeavor would soon fail, turn into Picaboo, and transform into the mega-valued Snapchat of today.
And then, back to talking about shooting "lazers at fat girls."
What "gaytitties" means is anyone's guess, but "Dean Julie" is Julie Lythcott-Haims, who at the time served as associate vice provost for undergraduate education and dean of freshmen and undergraduate advising. Snapchat has long shared a close, almost affectionate relationship with Stanford.
Maybe you can chalk this up to youthful indiscretion—but you can't discard it as such. Silicon Valley worships youthfulness, adores the scofflaw, the pirate, the reckless kid. Investors and Valley pundits seek out boys like Spiegel, "where's my bong?" emails and all, on the assumption that the same lightning that zapped Zuckerberg will continue to strike, and strike, and strike. But if the bazillions swirling around tech companies and their boy-king founders is going to continue to flow, we need to remind ourselves who exactly these kids are. And maybe, upon reflection, maybe, offering billions of dollars to children is not always prudent.
by Sam Biddle
5/28/14 12:10pm
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Evan Spiegel, the boyish cofounder and CEO of Snapchat, is dying to be taken seriously. He rejected Mark Zuckerberg, opines like Steve Jobs, and hobnobs with media titans. But Spiegel's undergrad emails—when he began his path to Snapchat—show a different Evan. Did Steve Jobs ever joke about peeing on girls?
During his time at Stanford, Spiegel (now 23 years old) was a prominent brother of the university's Kappa Sigma chapter—a fraternity with a fraught record, temporarily kicked off campus for violating the school's "Controlled Substances and Alcohol Policy." The house was also a tiny tech incubator, and brought together the three boys whose fratty bond would eventually lead to the creation of Snapchat (after one was betrayed and screwed out of the deal, of course). Emails obtained by Valleywag show a slightly younger Spiegel shifting seamlessly from entrepreneur to a guy trying very hard to get girls so drunk, they might have sex with his friends. Who needs Y Combinator when you've got a stripper pole, your dad's swanky house in L.A., and some cocaine?
The screenshots below are cropped but otherwise unedited, except for phone numbers and the names of some Stanford alumni, which have been redacted at their request.
"Hope at least six girls sucked your dicks last night."
espiegel@stanford.edu
to le-pledgecia09
5/30/09
LUAU FUCKING RAGED.
Thanks to all of you.
Hope at least six girl sucked your dicks last night. Cuz that didn't happen for me.
Thanks again for esverything.
Champions.
Fuckbitchesgetleid
Spiegel
Fwd: Stripper Pole
[le-pledgecia09] DO NOT TOUCH THE STRIPPER POLE INSIDE
Evan Thomas Spiegel <espiegel@stanford.edu>
to le-pledgecia09
6/1/09
its going to live in the house for a few days while I try to figure out how to save it.
Thanks,
Evan
"ACTION NEEDED... TO GET PI PHIS FUCKED UP"
[le-pledgecia09] ACTION NEEDED
Evan Thomas Spiegel <espiegel@stanford.edu>
to le-pledgecia09
9/24/09
TO GET PIPHIS FUCKED UP
Somebody needs to acquire the following within the next hour:
300 small white dixie cups (shot glass size).
2 handles of Vitali or another plastic bottle vodka around $12.
We need to put the handles in the fridge asap to make the jello shots.
The jello should be made and in the fridge by 4pm.
If you have any questions, hit me up.
Tonight is going to fucking rage.
evan
Remember how we captured memories before Snapchat?
[le-pledgecia09] Last Night and This Morning
Evan Thomas Spiegel <espiegel@stanford.edu>
to le-pledgecia09
9/25/09
Last Night and This Morning
(as depicted by a series of colorful vignettes)
by Evan Spiegel
9:30 pm
Fuck, I hope we finish this keg before the PiPhis get here.
10:00 pm
PiPhis are more frigid than previously anticipated. Maybe if I get more fucked up they will stop huddling in corners.
10:30 pm
Each team completed one station. Progressive = success. Let's throw a rager.
10:35 pm
Wait, PiPhis don't rage. Bummer. At least we have another tray of rubbing alcohol/jello-flavored shots. Note to self: Thank Coggeshall and Cam.
11:00 pm
Drunk sex would be a ton of fun right now.
11:30 pm
I'm definitely too drunk to have sex.
Probably too drunk to not have sex. Let's give this a shot.
4:00 am
Did I just pee on Lily while assuming the big spoon position?
4:00:30 am
Uhoh.
4:01 am
Maybe I can blame this on her.
4:02 am
The back of her skirt is soaked. She's gonna be super irritated. This is pretty gross.
4:06 am
Walking to PiPhi sucks. Note to self: don't pee on Lily again.
4:20 am
At least this bed doesn't have pee on it. Why do girls always have their shit together?
8:10 am
Late to my first chem section. I need a bike. I wonder if my TA has ever been peed on. She's pretty hot for a TriDelt.
8:11 am
Let's throw a TriDelt progressive.
8:11:15 am
Did I really just think that?
8:12 am
I need to go to sleep.
"Have some girl put your large kappa sigma dick down her throat."
[le-pledgecia09] because no one reads my list emails anyways
Evan Thomas Spiegel <espiegel@stanford.edu>
to le-pledgecia09
10/25/09
who gives a fuck if i send another one
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR THIS WEEKEND
THE TRAIN TO RAGEDOM DIDN'T STOP FOR ANYTHING/ANYONE
our pledge class is currently dominating the fuck out of everything
and if i hear one more freshman tell me how much they love kappa sigma ill probably get so
excited ill punch them in the face
this has happened because we have all been having a fucking blast together.
so, give yourself a pat on the back or have some girl put your large kappa sigma dick down her throat
because you fucking HANDLED this weekend
cant wait to see everyone on the blackout express soon,
evan
"sigma nu decided to stop being gay"
[le-pledgecia09] GAY
Evan Thomas Spiegel <espiegel@stanford.edu>
to le-pledgecia09
11/1/09
sigma nu decided to stop being gay so they passed the torch to theta delt.
"Papa Spiegel is liable for underage drinking, he's cool with it but probably not a good idea to take handles to the face." This same elder Spiegel lent his home to the Snapchat team as an improvised office during its early days.
[le-pledgecia09] Fw: More USC details. Read even if you're not in BOOSTabego
11/11/09
Forwarded Message
To: kappa-sig <kappa-sig@lists.stanford.edu>
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 1:06:15 AM
Subject: More USC details. Read even if you're not in BOOSTabego
Guys,
Here is some more details and stuff to think about for this weekend.
- We need a list of people going. Need to prepare popa spiegel. IF YOU DON'T RESPOND BY WEDNESDAY NIGHT, YOU WILL NOT BE LET INTO THE PARTY AND WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO SLEEP THERE (sidenote: Spiegel says if you have hot girl friends in LA they can come over for a little bit for the party let us know they're coming so they get let in).
- be responsible at spiegels. Papa Spiegel is liable for underage drinking, he's cool with it but probably not a good idea to take handles to the face. I'm not going to say no shots past 11:30 but just be respectful. We are going to boost on the way down there, but probably not a good idea to show up blacked out on Friday night.
- People not coming in the boostabego are still expected to pay for alc if they are going to spiegels and the tailgate
- DO NOT USE THE BATHROOM in the boostabego. We have to dump the tanks; don't want to do that.
- Reminder - we are drawing straws for drivers. Only fair way to do it.
Nothing like a fun Sally Hemmings theme for a party.
Kappa Sigma's "National Affairs"
Evan Thomas Spiegel <espiegel@stanford.edu>
to Kappa
2/11/10
In case you haven't heard/haven't seen the facebook, we're throwing down a fat party THIS SUNDAY.
In honor of Valentine's and President's Day
Celebrate the Legacies of our Two-timing Forefathers ...
Clinton and Lewinsky
Kennedy and Marilyn
... and Sally Hemmings (get some, Jefferson)
**
Get assassinated in the oval office with a shot to the face
Get high on Air Force One
Launch nuclear bombs from the Presidential Bunker
and dance at the Inaugural Ball.
SUID to run for office
"Bobby is really high now." That would be Bobby Murphy, the co-founder who didn't get kicked out of the company.
Evan Thomas Spiegel <espiegel@stanford.edu>
to Kappa
6/9/10
that's right.
NOW: drinking
9:30 PM pledges arrive to set up (make them do whatever you want/need)
11:00 PM stanford friends are blacked the fuck out with us
shopping list:
3 kegs
5 plastics
plastic shot glasses
- 1 ounce of marijuana
- 1 kilo of blow
im gonna have some pledges make jello shots
ill roll a blunt for whoever sees the most tits tonight
evan
Pulse Update: Bobby is really high now.
"Sororisluts"
So it appears SAE and TDX are releasing their Fall Collection of Whack Tanks for Sororisluts...
Evan Thomas Spiegel <espiegel@stanford.edu>
to Kappa
10/13/10
and considering we've already paid for these bad boys...I don't see why we shouldn't get this order in ASAP.
EMAIL ME IF YOU OBJECT.
Evan
Kappa Sigma
Beta Zeta
AEKDB
In the midst of all this, here's a professional email from Spiegel, without any talk of sucked dicks or blacking out, as he looks for help with FutureFreshman. This endeavor would soon fail, turn into Picaboo, and transform into the mega-valued Snapchat of today.
Need trustworthy and professional data entry - $20/hr.
Evan Thomas Spiegel <espiegel@stanford.edu>
to Kappa
10/20/10
Hi all,
FutureFreshman is almost ready to launch. We're making minor fixes and basically working nonstop to get it off the ground.
To that effect, I still need to input more school data.
If anyone is interested (or if you know someone that might be interested) in a short term data entry job (over the next 3 days, as many hours as you can work) please let me know!
I'll pay $20/hr for quality work.
You can work from anywhere, as long as you have a laptop.
Evan
Kappa Sigma
Beta Zeta
AEKDB
And then, back to talking about shooting "lazers at fat girls."
to Kappa
10/21/10
Brother Spiegel + wisdom
Original message
From Evan Spiegel
To: [DELETE]
Reply to: Evan Spiegel
Sent: Oct 21, 2010 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: Kappa brought the B squad
I mean no shit you think hot bitches like lazertag?
to Kappa
2x
10/21/10
Original message
From: Evan Spiegel
To: [DELETE]
Reply to: Evan Spiegel
Sent: Oct 21, 2010 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: Kappa brought the B squad
(I thought the whole point was to shoot lazers at fat girls..?)
What "gaytitties" means is anyone's guess, but "Dean Julie" is Julie Lythcott-Haims, who at the time served as associate vice provost for undergraduate education and dean of freshmen and undergraduate advising. Snapchat has long shared a close, almost affectionate relationship with Stanford.
GAYTITTIESGAME PLAN - MEET @ 7:30
Evan Thomas Spiegel <espiegel@stanford.edu>
to Kappa, Sean
11/17/10
MEET IN THE MID @ 7:30 TO COLLECT YOUR TICKET.
nothing like a eurotrash-themed, cal-hating, dean-julie-show-us-your-tits school play.
Maybe you can chalk this up to youthful indiscretion—but you can't discard it as such. Silicon Valley worships youthfulness, adores the scofflaw, the pirate, the reckless kid. Investors and Valley pundits seek out boys like Spiegel, "where's my bong?" emails and all, on the assumption that the same lightning that zapped Zuckerberg will continue to strike, and strike, and strike. But if the bazillions swirling around tech companies and their boy-king founders is going to continue to flow, we need to remind ourselves who exactly these kids are. And maybe, upon reflection, maybe, offering billions of dollars to children is not always prudent.