Katie Johnson's full testimony of 2/11/16
Jun 5, 2020
Katie's video description was captured before Trump became President and matches perfectly with what's described by 100's of other underage girls.
Given Epstein’s history of secretly taping famous people taking sexual advantage of young women procured by Epstein, if the allegations in the Katie Johnson complaint are true, Trump has every reason to be concerned that tapes might exist which would prove Johnson’s allegations.
Attorney General (and Trump personal lawyer) Bob Barr made the highly unusual decision to un-recuse himself from the Epstein case and actually take direct control over the case, despite having previously announced he had a conflict of interest.
I would never have guessed that a billionaire could run a sex trafficking ring for decades with numerous people as accomplices and co-conspirators. But Epstein is already a convicted sexual predator and he continued the behavior even after his conviction.
These women who were sexually abused as girls deserve the complete truth. They deserve justice and it appears that Bill Barr and Donald Trump have the motivation to go to unimaginable lengths to prevent that from ever happening.
https://www.gq.com/story/jeffrey-epst...
WARNING: Extremely graphic
Here's Katie's case: Katie Johnson v. Donald J. Trump (5:16-cv-00797)
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/...
Transcript
[Katie Johnson] I came to this interview of my free will. No, there was nothing promised to me for doing this interview. Yes, everything that I say at this interview will be the truth.
I met Donald Trump at some parties when I was working for Mr. Jeffrey Epstein. There was about three or four times that I had encounters with Donald Trump. I was 13. The first time that I met Donald Trump was at a party at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion. There was an orgy going on, and he was kind of watching off in the distance. And he basically asked if I could come over and give him a hand job. And at first I wasn't very comfortable with it. This was like my first or second party, and I didn't think that that was my responsibility. But my recruiter told me that I needed to do it. So I agreed to. I said -- sorry, this is a little difficult -- but before I gave him a hand job he kind of slapped my hand away and said, "You need to use a glove." And the recruiter ran over and handed me a glove, and said, "No one touches Mr. Trump's penis without a glove." So I needed to use a glove.
I gave him a hand job and then immediately after he had an orgasm, he left. And I didn't see him again at that party.
Jeffrey Epstein is a billionaire friend of Donald Trump's who was responsible for throwing the sex parties. I originally came to New York trying to be a model, and in my travels, I met a girl named Tiffany there who was very interested in me, and she said that's what she did, is that she helped girls, you know, get what they wanted, and she could help me get into modeling, and that she knew a lot of people that were higher-ups, and that it would be no problem. And she said that I would just basically have to come model at a couple of events and meet some people. It would be no sweat.
So of course I went. You know, it sounded like no big deal. And she was recruiting the girls to come to these parties. And, they all looked, I mean most of them were near my age. There were a couple girls that were maybe 14 or 15, but it seemed to me like we were all very young.
So Jeffrey Epstein knew that I was 13 years old. When he interviewed me, he asked me to get down to my bra and panties, and I thought that was weird. But I mean, modeling, maybe it was something about my figure. And he asked that I give him a massage. And then he asked me my age/ I told him, you know, I told him that I was 13. I told him why I was there, and he basically said, "Well, I'm sure that you'll fit pretty nicely here. And then he tried to basically slip himself inside of me. And I pushed him away, because at that point in time I still believed that there were models, and then there were the girls that did that. Like I thought there was a separation. So, I told him that I wasn't interested in that, but he said that I would do.
And as far as Donald Trump, he knew that I was 13. I believe that Tiffany told him. He seemed to take a liking to me, because I was so young, and I was also a virgin. So, I don't know, but it seemed like he wasn't really into having girls that were liked by the other guys. He kind of liked things to be his first, you know, for lack of a better term. But he was the one who wanted to get to a girl before everyone else did.
Donald Trump knew that I was 13, because the first the first night that I was there, Tiffany actually suggested that, and she had a whole bunch of different wigs then. I expressed interest in them, you know. I always told her that I would love to walk around with blue hair, and so I tried some on, and there was a blonde wig that she said that looked great on me. So I wore that wig. And Donald Trump had specifically asked about me, because I reminded him of his daughter. And Tiffany said, "Well, she's 13 as well." So, he knew the first time that he saw me. But he took a liking to me because I looked like his daughter.
The reason I'm coming out now is when it happened originally, I just wanted to forget about the whole incident. And when I saw that he was running for President [in 2016], I felt it was my responsibility to come out and tell our country what kind of man this person is. I don't think that he should even be the dog catcher, let alone running the greatest country in the world.
After I met Tiffany at the bus station, she basically took me to her house, her apartment, and I got ready. I put on a blonde wig, because it seemed fun to pretend to be someone different, and then we went to the party that I was basically interviewing for. And Jeffrey Epstein was the one that was running the party. He had a quick meeting with everyone who was employed there, and he had a private interview with me.
The first time that I met Jeffrey Epstein, he did try to force himself inside of me without getting the go-ahead, or anything, and then it was probably about the third or fourth party when he basically forced, it was another massage, and it wasn't sex, but there was penetration, and I told him that I didn't want that. But he got a little irritated, so there was something about him that I kind of held a lot of resentment towards him.
By the time that happened, I kind of already had started catching on that maybe I wasn't there for modeling, and maybe I was just getting used for things. And I kind of held him responsible.
I did receive money to go to these parties. After every party I was paid by Mr. Epstein. Out of all the girls that were there with me -- most of them were 13, or 14. I think the oldest one might have been just turned 16. I mean, she'd been there for a while.
It was actually -- it was Tiffany who said he liked to watch other people have sex. I mean, he was a germophobe. He doesn't like germs. So rather than partaking, he just watches.
So I informed him that I was a virgin, so I was basically sorry. So it was Tiffany who introduced us.
The second time that I saw Mr. Trump was the same scenario. He was looking on at an orgy. And Tiffany came over to me and said that Donald Trump had requested that I perform oral sex on him. And I'd never done something like that with anybody, so I was a little nervous. So I walked up to him, and he was standing there very proud-like. and I just kind of moved towards that direction, and he kind of slapped me away, and said, "What are you doing? You know you need to put a condom, like I was some dirty filth or something without a condom. Tiffany ran over and handed me a condom, and she was apologizing profusely to Trump, and she said that would never happen again. And she looked at me and scolded me for being kind of like a child, and that anytime you touched Donald Trump's penis, it needed to have a condom on, or glove, you know. And especially when it comes to performing oral sex.
So I apologized, and then I performed oral sex on him. And again, once he was done, he hopped up and that's the last I saw of him at that party. Some of the things that I noticed that were weird with him was that sometimes, before the parties, he would come over, Jeffrey Epstein and himself, would kind of banter back and forth. And Donald Trump was very racist. He said a lot of racist things. Like there were a lot of comments towards Mr. Epstein being Jewish, and comments like, "You Jewish bastard." And there were some words I didn't even understand -- something about the shape of Epstein's penis being directly related to his mole, and I'm not too familiar with the Jewish tradition, but I'm pretty sure that whatever he was saying wasn't very nice.
He also referred to people of Hispanic background, and he called them Spics. That was around the first time that the World Trade Center had gotten the bombing in the 90s, and he was talking about the towelheads, and how it would just be better off if we didn't let them in, or you know, basically get rid of every one, every single one that was already here. And that just made me really uncomfortable; really, really uncomfortable.
He also loved to call black people "Niggers," and Arabic people he called "Sandniggers."
The only time that he tried to give me some money was our last encounter together, where he acted out a rape fantasy. I was forced to give that money back, because Jeffrey Epstein paid us after the party. So he just gave me the money. I don't even know why. He gave it to me maybe to make me feel more cheap, because it was a rape fantasy to him, but I wasn't playing.
So there were those two times, and then there was after. And the next thing that happened was that Tiffany approached me and said he had a fantasy where he walked in on his maids basically making out, and that it was some type of fantasy for him. So at that point, I was like, "I don't want to be involved with anything that has to do with him." But she's like, "There's nothing that you'll have to do, just he's requesting you to be involved." So I felt like I didn't have a choice there. But his fantasy is basically, he's walking in on his two maids. I was the white maid, and there was a Spanish girl named Maria, who was the Hispanic maid. And we were making out, and he walks in, and he gets really angry, and threatens to call immigration on Maria if she doesn't come over and make things right, and give him a blow job. So while she is over there giving him a blow job, I am just supposed to look scared, like, "Oh no," you know, and cleaning up things, and pretending like I'm trying to go back to my job as a maid. And he was so rude to Maria -- I felt so bad for her -- and I guess it just didn't seem like a fantasy. And it's the weirdest fantasy, you know. He was threatening to call immigration on her.
So she wasn't even near going down to give him oral sex before he slapped her away, and said, "You need to put a condom on." And she's trying to say that she is so sorry, and he's like, "I can't even understand what you're saying," and "Speak English'. He made derogatory comments to her, and then he's like, "You know what? You don't know what you're doing. Have her come over and show you how it's done." And he said that I had to go over there or else he was going to call immigration on Maria. I didn't know if it was true or not. And he said that if I didn't show her how to perform oral sex on him, then he was going to call immigration on her, and then get rid of us both.
You know, anything in relation to him getting off, or being satisfied, or happy, had to do with him being in power, extreme power. And it was always intimidating when he was like that. You didn't really know if it was true, or funny. It's like, if you refuse to play along, would he really call immigration on Maria? Would he really get rid of us both? And I didn't even want to know what that meant. You know -- it wasn't a game. We just felt like it wasn't a game.
The one night that I had the blonde wig on, he mentioned that I reminded him of his daughter. And actually, during the maid fantasy, I didn't have a blonde wig on. I was trying to stay away from blond wigs at the time. But he actually requested -- told -- Tiffany that he wanted me to wear it. Like anytime I had it on, and he'd see me, he would say, "Man, you look just like my daughter. And it wasn't like, "Oh, you remind me of my daughter." It was a sick, evil-like, "You remind me of my daughter." It was just this weird pleasure-sick-smile. Like, I don't even want to know what he was thinking about. I could imagine what he was thinking about.
After the parties would end, we were to report to Mr. Epstein, and basically tell him everything that happened, who and what they liked, and what they disliked, and if there were any requests or if there was talk about anything. That's when we told Mr. Epstein everything. And then he paid us, and we went home. And with me, you know, I would normally get taken to the airport to go back home.
The fact that Trump has a chance to be the next President makes me feel disgusting inside. I've always been proud to be an American, and I think we live in a beautiful country. But I just see him ruining everything. He's horrible. What he portrays on the outside isn't even that great, but people don't even know the half of it -- how evil, sick and twisted that man is.
I have a friend that's been my friend ever since the eighth grade. I confided in her, and she knows all about it. She knows everything. I mean, I destroyed everything from that trip. I couldn't risk my dad finding out. And now I think I'm old enough, but at that point, I didn't want to not be his little girl, you know. I didn't want to lose my dad.
Basically, I never kept proof of any of the trips. I never told my parents because, you know, there would be no good outcome of telling my parents. They would have grounded me, and I would have never been allowed out of the house. My father would have come unglued. I did tell a friend, my best friend, and she's still my best friend to this day. She knows everything. She knows it all.
I'm prepared to do whatever it takes to save the country that I believe that we have. I know what he does behind closed doors. And I'm willing to sacrifice my life to get our country back. And they're right about going in some type of positive direction, but this guy's not gonna take us anywhere positive.
You know, as far as my life changing by coming out with this information, I've thought long and hard about whether or not I should do it. And I've gone back and forth. But I think that the American people need to know what kind of man this person is. And if my life changes because of that, then so be it. But the American people need to know what they're dealing with.
If I had the chance to talk to Donald Trump, I would run the other way. I'm scared of him like I've never been scared of anything else in my entire life. I can't explain it to you, but the fear of him even being in the next room makes me have panic attacks.
The last encounter that I had with Donald Trump, Tiffany approached me about a rape scene that we're supposed to play out, and I didn't like the sound of that at all. But Tiffany promised, ensured me, that if I wasn't comfortable with something, we could stop. That she would be right there, and it wouldn't get out of hand; and it was just a fantasy, and it wasn't really gonna happen. Tiffany was always nice to me. I felt I trusted her. And I wouldn't always trust her, or do what she asked me to, but she was there.
And when he came in, he basically tied me to a bed with pantyhose. And they ties were so tight it hurt to even lay there. And I tried to say something, and his response was "Just shut up; shut up bitch." He was being really, really rough, and it just didn't seem like a fantasy. And I started to get scared. And he was basically ripping my clothes off, and I actually got really freaked out, and I told him, "I don't want to do this." I was screaming for Tiffany, and this was scaring her, and he's like, "Oh, you shut up, too." He just turned into this animal. It was a completely different person. It was like everyone in the room was scared of him and it was like I couldn't do anything about it. And he ripped off all my clothes, and he started to basically have sex with me. And I was screaming, because I never had sex before. It was my first time. And Tiffany was yelling at him too. She was saying that I was a virgin, and he told us to "Just shut the fuck up," and basically took my virginity while I was crying and telling him to stop, and just begging for him to stop. And Tiffany didn't know what else to do either. No one was there to help us, or me.
And so, he basically finishes it, and it didn't take that long at all. I mean, it felt like it was like five and a half hours; it seemed like an eternity. I don't even know how long it was, but he was done, and I was crying, and Tiffany was apologizing. She told me that she would never put me in that situation again. But he came over mad, because I was crying. And he said that I should be thankful that someone like Donald Trump took my virginity. Well, he didn't say "took my virginity." He said I should be glad that someone like Donald Trump popped my cherry and not some pimply little 14-year-old. And speaking to Tiffany, I asked, "What if I get pregnant"? I wasn't even talking to him. I didn't want to talk to him. I was talking to Tiffany. And he said, "Well, you'll get an abortion then, bitch." And then he just walked away. And then I told Tiffany that I needed to go home. And I never went back again.
I guess it's for you to decide. You know, I don't have any kids myself because I'm afraid to have kids, because who knows what kind of damage they can get into. But if you have a 13-year-old daughter, would you be okay with the person who's running our country doing that to your little girl? And I just want people to know. I have faith in our society that it will make the right choice.
He seemed to be taking great pleasure, and enjoyed the dominance and control he had over me. And the more I screamed, the more I got scared, the more he was enraged with power. And it was like he was just charged with it. It was scary.
My experience with Donald Trump has made it to where I can't be in a healthy relationship, I can't be in a relationship without without self-sabotaging it. I don't do well. I mean, I've been in a couple of relationships. I mean they're never of interest to me normally, but one man in particular was a wonderful man, and I couldn't even control myself from self-sabotaging. It was like I had to get him out of my life, and I don't even know why. It was like, anytime anyone loves me I don't feel worth it. I don't even know how to explain it. Like I can be friends, I can have acquaintances with guys, but anytime it's someone who expresses anything else besides that, I can't take any pleasure in it. Whether I mean to or not, it's like I hurt their feelings just so they'll never talk to me again. And make sure that it's not ever a possibility.
Donald Trump destroyed my feeling of self-worth, and my self-esteem, when it just bloomed. It hadn't even had a chance to experience anything.
I have only spoken to to one therapist about, this just recently actually. For a long time I just really tried to forget about it. I tried very hard. But I've been to counseling for other things. I went to counseling for the previous relationship that I was sabotaging. And my counselor said, "Something has happened to you, and you need to deal with that." And I was like, "Hmm." He knew that there was something that had happened where I was self-sabotaging, or sabotaging these relationships. But he said that it was my responsibility to deal with it.
Donald Trump has just destroyed my self-esteem. And I feel like it's destroyed part of my life. The only healthy relationship I could have had, I completely demolished it. And I love to choose the dysfunctional ones that I know I can just push away. After what happened with Donald Trump, I can't trust a man ever again. And thinking about it just makes me sick to my stomach. So when something so traumatic happens to someone who's so young, you never ever really get over it.