Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certification

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THOMPSON, CHENEY, & LOFGREN OPENING STATEMENTS AT SELECT COMMITTEE HEARING
Jun 13, 2022
- As Delivered –

Chairman Thompson: “Good morning. Last week, the Select Committee laid out a preview of our initial findings about a conspiracy, overseen and directed by Donald Trump, to overturn the results of the 2020 Presidential election and block the transfer of power—a scheme unprecedented in American history.

“My colleagues and I don’t want to spend time talking about ourselves during these hearings, but as someone who’s run for office a few times, I can tell you: at the end of a campaign, it all comes down to the numbers. The numbers tell you the winner and the loser.

“For the most part, the numbers don’t lie.

“But if something doesn’t add up with the numbers, you go to court to get resolution. And that’s the end of the line. We accept those results. That’s what it means to respect the rule of law. That’s what it means to seek elected office in our democracy.

“Because those numbers aren’t just numbers.

“They are votes. They are your votes. They are the will and the voice of the people. And the very least we should expect from any person seeking a position of public trust is the acceptance of the will of the people—win or lose.

“Donald Trump didn’t.

“He didn’t have the numbers. He went to court, and he still didn’t have the numbers. He lost.

“But he betrayed the trust of the American people. He ignored the will of the voters. He lied to his supporters and the country. And he tried to remain in office after the people had voted him out—and the courts upheld the will of the people.

“This morning we’ll tell the story of how Donald Trump lost an election—and knew he lost an election—and as a result of his loss, decided to wage an attack on our democracy. An attack on the American people, by trying to rob you of your voice in our democracy. And in doing so, lit the fuse that led to the horrific violence of January 6th, when a mob of his supporters stormed the Capitol, sent by Donald Trump, to stop the transfer of power.

“Today, my colleague from California, Ms. Lofgren, and our witnesses, will detail the Select Committee’s findings on these matters.

“But first, I’ll recognize our distinguished Vice Chair, Ms. Cheney of Wyoming, for any opening statement she’d care to offer.”

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Vice Chair Cheney: “Thank you very much Mr. Chairman.

“Last week, this Committee began by outlining a seven part plan overseen by President Trump to overturn the 2020 election. Today, we are looking at the initial part of that plan: President Trump’s effort to convince millions of Americans that the election was stolen from him by overwhelming fraud.

“A federal court has already reviewed elements of the Committee’s evidence on this point, and said this: ‘In the months following the election, numerous credible sources – from the President’s inner circle to agency leadership and statisticians – informed President Trump and Dr. Eastman that there was no evidence of election fraud’ sufficient to overturn the 2020 Presidential election.

“The Court’s opinion methodically documents each of the principal reasons for that conclusion, and I would urge all of those watching to read it. Today we will begin to show the American people some of our evidence.

“Today, you will hear much more from former Attorney General Bill Barr’s recorded testimony, and you will hear in greater detail what others in the Department told President Trump – that his claims of election fraud were nonsense.

“You will also hear much more from President Trump’s own campaign experts, who had also concluded that his fraud claims could not be supported.

“Let me briefly focus on just three points now.

“First, you will hear firsthand testimony that the President’s campaign advisors urged him to await the counting of votes and not to declare victory on election night. The President understood even before the election that many more Biden voters had voted by mail – because President Trump ignored the advice of his campaign experts and told his supporters only to vote in person.

“Donald Trump knew before the election that the counting of those mail-in ballots in several states would not begin until late in the day and would not be complete for multiple days.

“This was expected, reported, and widely known.

“You will hear testimony that President Trump rejected the advice of his campaign experts on election night, and instead followed the course recommended by an apparently inebriated Rudy Giuliani, to just claim he won, and insist that the vote counting stop – to falsely claim everything was fraudulent.

“He falsely told the American people that the election was not legitimate, in his words ‘a major fraud.’ Millions of Americans believed him.

“Second, pay attention to what Donald Trump and his legal team said repeatedly about Dominion voting machines – far flung conspiracies with a deceased Venezuelan Communist allegedly pulling the strings.

“This was ‘complete nonsense,’ as Bill Barr said.

“Trump’s own campaign advisors, his Department of Justice, and his cybersecurity experts all told him the same thing. Here, for example, is White House lawyer Eric Herschmann; his view was shared by many of the Trump team who we interviewed:

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“And third, as Mike Pence’s staff started to get a sense for what Donald Trump had planned for January 6th, they called the campaign experts to give them a briefing on election fraud and all the other election claims.

“On January 2nd, the General Counsel of the Trump Campaign, Matthew Morgan – this is the campaign’s chief lawyer -- summarized what the Campaign had concluded weeks earlier – that none of the arguments about fraud or anything else could actually change the outcome of the election.

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“As is obvious, this is before the attack on the Capitol. The Trump campaign legal team knew there was no legitimate argument – fraud, irregularities, or anything – to overturn the election. And yet, President Trump went ahead with his plans for January 6th anyway.

“Mr. Chairman, hundreds of our countrymen have faced criminal charges, many are serving criminal sentences because they believed what Donald Trump said about the election and they acted on it. They came to Washington D.C. at his request, they marched on the Capitol at his request, and hundreds of them besieged and invaded the building at the heart of our Constitutional Republic.

“As one conservative editorial board put recently: ‘Mr. Trump betrayed his supporters by conning them on Jan. 6, and he is still doing it.’

“Another conservative editorial board, one that has long supported President Trump, said last week: Donald Trump ‘won’t stop insisting that 2020 was ‘stolen’ even though he has offered no proof that it’s true.’

“And this: [Donald Trump] now ‘clings to more fantastical theories, such as Dinesh D’Souza’s debunked ‘2000 Mules,’ even as recounts in Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin confirm Trump lost.’

“Those are the correct conclusions to draw from the evidence gathered by this Committee. We have much more evidence to show the American people on this point than we can reasonably show in one hearing.

“But today we will begin.

“Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.”

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Chairman Thompson: “Without objection, the Chair recognizes the gentlewoman from California, Ms. Lofgren, for an opening statement.”

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Representative Lofgren: “Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

“In our opening hearing we gave an overview of our investigation into the January 6th attack. The plot to overthrow the election was complex and had many parts, which we’ll explore in remaining hearings. But today we examine the false narrative that the 2020 election was ’stolen’.

“Former President Trump’s plan to overturn the election relied on a sustained effort to deceive millions of Americans with knowingly false claims of election fraud. All elements of the plot relied on convincing his supporters about these false claims.

“Today, we’ll demonstrate the 2020 election was not stolen. The American people elected President Joe Biden. We’ll present evidence that Mr. Trump’s claims of election fraud were false, that he and his closest advisors knew those claims were false but they continued to peddle them anyway, right up until moments before a mob of Trump supporters attacked the Capitol.

“We’ll also show that the Trump campaign used these false claims of election fraud to raise hundreds of millions of dollars from supporters who were told their donations were for the legal fight in the courts.

“But the Trump Campaign didn’t use the money for that. The Big Lie was also a big rip off.

“The former President laid the groundwork for these false claims well in advance of the election. As early as April 2020, Mr. Trump claimed that the only way he could lose an election would be as a result of fraud:

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“Mr. Trump decided even before the election that, regardless of the facts and the truth, if he lost the election he would claim it was rigged. Mr. Trump was right about one thing: it did not end well.

“On election night, Mr. Trump claimed even before the votes were counted, that his loss was a result of fraud.

“Thursday, we had testimony from Attorney General Barr about the Department of Justice’s investigation of Mr. Trump’s fraud claims. Barr told Trump directly that his claims were ‘BS.’

“Yet after hearing the truth and that warning from his Attorney General, Mr. Trump continued to peddle the false claims of fraud.

“You’ll hear detailed testimony from Attorney General Barr describing the various election fraud claims the Department of Justice investigated. He’ll tell you how he told Mr. Trump, repeatedly, that there was no merit to those claims.

“Mr. Barr will tell us that Mr. Trump’s election-night claims of fraud were made without regard to the truth, and before it was even possible to look for evidence of fraud.

“Attorney General Barr wasn’t alone. You’ll see and hear today, other Department of Justice officials and senior advisors to Mr. Trump that they told him that claims he was making were not supported by evidence.

“The election fraud claims were false. Mr. Trump’s closest advisors knew it. Mr. Trump knew it.

“That didn’t stop him from pushing the false claims and urging his supporters to, ‘fight like hell’ to ‘take back their country.’

“After he lost the election, various legal challenges were made. You’ll hear testimony today from a renowned Republican election litigation lawyer who will explain the normal process by which candidates challenge an election.

“Rather than accept the results of the election and the decisions of the courts, Mr. Trump pursued a different strategy. He tried to convince the American people the election had been stolen. Many of his supporters believed him. Many still believe him today.

“The attack on January 6th was a direct and predictable result of Mr. Trump’s decision to use false claims of election fraud to overturn the election and cling to power.”

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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

Postby admin » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:11 pm

THOMPSON AND CHENEY OPENING REMARKS AT SELECT COMMITTEE HEARING
Jun 28, 2022
- As Delivered –

Chairman Thompson: “Good afternoon.

“In our hearings over the previous weeks, the Select Committee has laid out the details of a multi-part pressure campaign driven by the former President aimed at overturning the results of the 2020 presidential election and blocking the transfer of power.

“We’ve shown that this effort was based on a lie—a lie that the election was stolen tainted by widespread fraud.

“Donald Trump’s Big Lie.

“In the weeks ahead, the committee will hold additional hearings about how Donald Trump summoned a mob of his supporters to Washington spurred them to march on the Capitol and failed to take meaningful action to quell the violence as it was unfolding on January 6th.

“However, in recent days, the Select Committee has obtained new information dealing with what was going on in the White House on January 6th and in the days prior.

“Specific, detailed information about what the former President and his top aides were doing and saying in those critical hours.

“Firsthand details of what transpired in the office of the White House Chief of Staff—just steps from the Oval Office—as the threats of violence became clear and, indeed, violence ultimately descended on the Capitol in the attack on American democracy.

“It’s important that the American people hear that information immediately. That’s why, in consultation with the Vice Chair, I’ve recalled the committee for today’s hearing.

“As you’ve seen and heard in our earlier hearings, the Select Committee has developed a massive body of evidence thanks to the many hundreds of witnesses who have voluntarily provided information relevant to our investigation.

“It hasn’t always been easy to get that information because the same people who drove the former President’s pressure campaign to overturn the election are now trying to cover up the truth about January 6th.

“But thanks to the courage of certain individuals, the truth won’t be buried. The American people won’t be left in the dark. Our witness today, Ms. Cassidy Hutchinson, has embodied that courage.

“I won’t get into a lot of detail about Ms. Hutchinson’s testimony will show. I’ll allow her words to speak for themselves. And I hope everyone at home will listen very closely.

“First, I’ll recognize our distinguished Vice Chair, Ms. Cheney of Wyoming, for any opening statement she’d care to offer.

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Vice Chair Cheney: “Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

“In our first five hearings, the Committee has heard from a significant number of Republicans, including former Trump Administration Justice Department Officials, Trump Campaign officials, several members of President Trump’s White House staff, a prominent conservative judge and several others.

“Today’s witness, Ms. Cassidy Hutchinson is another Republican, and another former member of President Trump’s White House staff.

“Certain of us in the House of Representatives recall that Ms. Hutchinson once worked for House Republican Whip, Steve Scalise.

“But she is also a familiar face on Capitol Hill because she held a prominent role in the White House legislative affairs office, and later was the principal aide to President Trump’s Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows.

“Ms. Hutchinson has spent considerable time up here on Capitol Hill representing the Trump Administration. And we welcome her back.

“Up until now, our hearings have each been organized to address specific elements of President Trump’s plan to overturn the 2020 Presidential election.

“Today, we are departing somewhat from that model because Ms. Hutchinson’s testimony touches on several important and crosscutting topics – topics that are relevant to each of our future hearings.

“In her role working for the White House Chief of Staff, Ms. Hutchinson handled a vast number of sensitive issues. She worked in the West Wing, several steps down the hall from the Oval Office.

“Ms. Hutchinson spoke daily with members of Congress, with high-ranking officials in the administration, with senior White House staff, including Mr. Meadows, with White House Counsel lawyers, and with Mr. Tony Ornado who served as the White House Deputy Chief of Staff.

“She also worked on a daily basis with members of the Secret Service who were posted in the White House.

“In short, Ms. Hutchinson was in a position to know a great deal about the happenings in the Trump White House.

“Ms. Hutchinson has already sat for four videotaped interviews with Committee investigators. And we thank her very much for her cooperation and for her courage.

“We will cover certain but not all relevant topics within Ms. Hutchinson’s knowledge today.

“Again, our future hearings will supply greater detail, putting the testimony today in a broader and more complete context.

“Today, you will hear Ms. Hutchinson relate certain first-hand observations of President Trump’s conduct on January 6th.

“You will also hear new information regarding the actions and statements of Mr. Trump’s senior advisors that day, including his Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and his White House Counsel.

“And we will begin to examine evidence bearing on what President Trump and members of the White House staff knew about the prospect for violence on January 6th even before that violence began.

“To best communicate the information the Committee has gathered, we will follow the practice of our recent hearings, playing videotaped testimony from Ms. Hutchinson and others, and also posing questions to Ms. Hutchinson live.

“Mr. Chairman, I yield back.”
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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

Postby admin » Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:42 pm

Hearings of Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol
by January 6th.house.gov

Select Committee Hearings

06/09/2022 SELECT COMMITTEE HEARING

06/13/2022 SELECT COMMITTEE HEARING

06/16/2022 SELECT COMMITTEE HEARING

06/21/2022 SELECT COMMITTEE HEARING

06/23/2022 SELECT COMMITTEE HEARING

06/28/2022 SELECT COMMITTEE HEARING

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About Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol
by January 6th.house.gov
Accessed: 6/29/22

ABOUT

Whereas January 6, 2021, was one of the darkest days of our democracy, during which insurrectionists attempted to impede Congress’s Constitutional mandate to validate the presidential election and launched an assault on the United States Capitol Complex that resulted in multiple deaths, physical harm to over 140 members of law enforcement, and terror and trauma among staff, institutional employees, press, and Members;

Whereas, on January 27, 2021, the Department of Homeland Security issued a National Terrorism Advisory System Bulletin that due to the “heightened threat environment across the United States,” in which “[S]ome ideologically-motivated violent extremists with objections to the exercise of governmental authority and the presidential transition, as well as other perceived grievances fueled by false narratives, could continue to mobilize to incite or commit violence.” The Bulletin also stated that—

(1) “DHS is concerned these same drivers to violence will remain through early 2021 and some DVEs [domestic violent extremists] may be emboldened by the January 6, 2021 breach of the U.S. Capitol Building in Washington, D.C. to target elected officials and government facilities.”; and

(2) “Threats of violence against critical infrastructure, including the electric, telecommunications and healthcare sectors, increased in 2020 with violent extremists citing misinformation and conspiracy theories about COVID–19 for their actions”;

Whereas, on September 24, 2020, Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation Christopher Wray testified before the Committee on Homeland Security of the House of Representatives that—

(1) “[T]he underlying drivers for domestic violent extremism – such as perceptions of government or law enforcement overreach, sociopolitical conditions, racism, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, misogyny, and reactions to legislative actions – remain constant.”;

(2) “[W]ithin the domestic terrorism bucket category as a whole, racially-motivated violent extremism is, I think, the biggest bucket within the larger group. And within the racially-motivated violent extremists bucket, people subscribing to some kind of white supremacist-type ideology is certainly the biggest chunk of that.”; and

(3) “More deaths were caused by DVEs than international terrorists in recent years. In fact, 2019 was the deadliest year for domestic extremist violence since the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995”;

Whereas, on April 15, 2021, Michael Bolton, the Inspector General for the United States Capitol Police, testified to the Committee on House Administration of the House of Representatives that—

(1) “The Department lacked adequate guidance for operational planning. USCP did not have policy and procedures in place that communicated which personnel were responsible for operational planning, what type of operational planning documents its personnel should prepare, nor when its personnel should prepare operational planning documents.”; and

(2) “USCP failed to disseminate relevant information obtained from outside sources, lacked consensus on interpretation of threat analyses, and disseminated conflicting intelligence information regarding planned events for January 6, 2021.”; and

Whereas the security leadership of the Congress under-prepared for the events of January 6th, with United States Capitol Police Inspector General Michael Bolton testifying again on June 15, 2021, that—

(1) “USCP did not have adequate policies and procedures for FRU (First Responder Unit) defining its overall operations. Additionally, FRU lacked resources and training for properly completing its mission.”;

(2) “The Department did not have adequate policies and procedures for securing ballistic helmets and vests strategically stored around the Capitol Complex.”; and

(3) “FRU did not have the proper resources to complete its mission.”: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved,

SECTION 1. ESTABLISHMENT.

There is hereby established the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (hereinafter referred to as the “Select Committee”).

SEC. 2. COMPOSITION.

(a) Appointment Of Members.—The Speaker shall appoint 13 Members to the Select Committee, 5 of whom shall be appointed after consultation with the minority leader.

(b) Designation Of Chair.—The Speaker shall designate one Member to serve as chair of the Select Committee.

(c) Vacancies.—Any vacancy in the Select Committee shall be filled in the same manner as the original appointment.

SEC. 3. PURPOSES.

Consistent with the functions described in section 4, the purposes of the Select Committee are the following:

(1) To investigate and report upon the facts, circumstances, and causes relating to the January 6, 2021, domestic terrorist attack upon the United States Capitol Complex (hereafter referred to as the “domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol”) and relating to the interference with the peaceful transfer of power, including facts and causes relating to the preparedness and response of the United States Capitol Police and other Federal, State, and local law enforcement agencies in the National Capital Region and other instrumentalities of government, as well as the influencing factors that fomented such an attack on American representative democracy while engaged in a constitutional process.

(2) To examine and evaluate evidence developed by relevant Federal, State, and local governmental agencies regarding the facts and circumstances surrounding the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol and targeted violence and domestic terrorism relevant to such terrorist attack.

(3) To build upon the investigations of other entities and avoid unnecessary duplication of efforts by reviewing the investigations, findings, conclusions, and recommendations of other executive branch, congressional, or independent bipartisan or nonpartisan commission investigations into the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol, including investigations into influencing factors related to such attack.

SEC. 4. FUNCTIONS.

(a) Functions.—The functions of the Select Committee are to—

(1) investigate the facts, circumstances, and causes relating to the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol, including facts and circumstances relating to—

(A) activities of intelligence agencies, law enforcement agencies, and the Armed Forces, including with respect to intelligence collection, analysis, and dissemination and information sharing among the branches and other instrumentalities of government;

(B) influencing factors that contributed to the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol and how technology, including online platforms, financing, and malign foreign influence operations and campaigns may have factored into the motivation, organization, and execution of the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol; and

(C) other entities of the public and private sector as determined relevant by the Select Committee for such investigation;

(2) identify, review, and evaluate the causes of and the lessons learned from the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol regarding—

(A) the command, control, and communications of the United States Capitol Police, the Armed Forces, the National Guard, the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia, and other Federal, State, and local law enforcement agencies in the National Capital Region on or before January 6, 2021;

(B) the structure, coordination, operational plans, policies, and procedures of the Federal Government, including as such relate to State and local governments and nongovernmental entities, and particularly with respect to detecting, preventing, preparing for, and responding to targeted violence and domestic terrorism;

(C) the structure, authorities, training, manpower utilization, equipment, operational planning, and use of force policies of the United States Capitol Police;

(D) the policies, protocols, processes, procedures, and systems for the sharing of intelligence and other information by Federal, State, and local agencies with the United States Capitol Police, the Sergeants at Arms of the House of Representatives and Senate, the Government of the District of Columbia, including the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia, the National Guard, and other Federal, State, and local law enforcement agencies in the National Capital Region on or before January 6, 2021, and the related policies, protocols, processes, procedures, and systems for monitoring, assessing, disseminating, and acting on intelligence and other information, including elevating the security posture of the United States Capitol Complex, derived from instrumentalities of government, open sources, and online platforms; and

(E) the policies, protocols, processes, procedures, and systems for interoperability between the United States Capitol Police and the National Guard, the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia, and other Federal, State, and local law enforcement agencies in the National Capital Region on or before January 6, 2021; and

(3) issue a final report to the House containing such findings, conclusions, and recommendations for corrective measures described in subsection (c) as it may deem necessary.

(b) Reports.—

(1) INTERIM REPORTS.—In addition to the final report addressing the matters in subsection (a) and section 3, the Select Committee may report to the House or any committee of the House from time to time the results of its investigations, together with such detailed findings and legislative recommendations as it may deem advisable.

(2) TREATMENT OF CLASSIFIED OR LAW ENFORCEMENT-SENSITIVE MATTER.—Any report issued by the Select Committee shall be issued in unclassified form but may include a classified annex, a law enforcement-sensitive annex, or both.

(c) Corrective Measures Described.—The corrective measures described in this subsection may include changes in law, policy, procedures, rules, or regulations that could be taken—

(1) to prevent future acts of violence, domestic terrorism, and domestic violent extremism, including acts targeted at American democratic institutions;

(2) to improve the security posture of the United States Capitol Complex while preserving accessibility of the Capitol Complex for all Americans; and

(3) to strengthen the security and resilience of the United States and American democratic institutions against violence, domestic terrorism, and domestic violent extremism.

(d) No Markup Of Legislation Permitted.—The Select Committee may not hold a markup of legislation.

SEC. 5. PROCEDURE.

(a) Access To Information From Intelligence Community.—Notwithstanding clause 3(m) of rule X of the Rules of the House of Representatives, the Select Committee is authorized to study the sources and methods of entities described in clause 11(b)(1)(A) of rule X insofar as such study is related to the matters described in sections 3 and 4.

(b) Treatment Of Classified Information.—Clause 11(b)(4), clause 11(e), and the first sentence of clause 11(f) of rule X of the Rules of the House of Representatives shall apply to the Select Committee.

(c) Applicability Of Rules Governing Procedures Of Committees.—Rule XI of the Rules of the House of Representatives shall apply to the Select Committee except as follows:

(1) Clause 2(a) of rule XI shall not apply to the Select Committee.

(2) Clause 2(g)(2)(D) of rule XI shall apply to the Select Committee in the same manner as it applies to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

(3) Pursuant to clause 2(h) of rule XI, two Members of the Select Committee shall constitute a quorum for taking testimony or receiving evidence and one-third of the Members of the Select Committee shall constitute a quorum for taking any action other than one for which the presence of a majority of the Select Committee is required.

(4) The chair of the Select Committee may authorize and issue subpoenas pursuant to clause 2(m) of rule XI in the investigation and study conducted pursuant to sections 3 and 4 of this resolution, including for the purpose of taking depositions.

(5) The chair of the Select Committee is authorized to compel by subpoena the furnishing of information by interrogatory.

(6) (A) The chair of the Select Committee, upon consultation with the ranking minority member, may order the taking of depositions, including pursuant to subpoena, by a Member or counsel of the Select Committee, in the same manner as a standing committee pursuant to section 3(b)(1) of House Resolution 8, One Hundred Seventeenth Congress.

(B) Depositions taken under the authority prescribed in this paragraph shall be governed by the procedures submitted by the chair of the Committee on Rules for printing in the Congressional Record on January 4, 2021.

(7) Subpoenas authorized pursuant to this resolution may be signed by the chair of the Select Committee or a designee.

(8) The chair of the Select Committee may, after consultation with the ranking minority member, recognize—

(A) Members of the Select Committee to question a witness for periods longer than five minutes as though pursuant to clause 2(j)(2)(B) of rule XI; and

(B) staff of the Select Committee to question a witness as though pursuant to clause 2(j)(2)(C) of rule XI.

(9) The chair of the Select Committee may postpone further proceedings when a record vote is ordered on questions referenced in clause 2(h)(4) of rule XI, and may resume proceedings on such postponed questions at any time after reasonable notice. Notwithstanding any intervening order for the previous question, an underlying proposition shall remain subject to further debate or amendment to the same extent as when the question was postponed.

(10) The provisions of paragraphs (f)(1) through (f)(12) of clause 4 of rule XI shall apply to the Select Committee.

SEC. 6. RECORDS; STAFF; TRAVEL; FUNDING.

(a) Sharing Records Of Committees.—Any committee of the House of Representatives having custody of records in any form relating to the matters described in sections 3 and 4 shall provide copies of such records to the Select Committee not later than 14 days of the adoption of this resolution or receipt of such records. Such records shall become the records of the Select Committee.

(b) Staff.—The appointment and the compensation of staff for the Select Committee shall be subject to regulations issued by the Committee on House Administration.

(c) Detail Of Staff Of Other Offices.—Staff of employing entities of the House or a joint committee may be detailed to the Select Committee to carry out this resolution and shall be deemed to be staff of the Select Committee.

(d) Use Of Consultants Permitted.—Section 202(i) of the Legislative Reorganization Act of 1946 (2 U.S.C. 4301(i)) shall apply with respect to the Select Committee in the same manner as such section applies with respect to a standing committee of the House of Representatives.

(e) Travel.—Clauses 8(a), (b), and (c) of rule X of the Rules of the House of Representatives shall apply to the Select Committee.

(f) Funding; Payments.—There shall be paid out of the applicable accounts of the House of Representatives such sums as may be necessary for the expenses of the Select Committee. Such payments shall be made on vouchers signed by the chair of the Select Committee and approved in the manner directed by the Committee on House Administration. Amounts made available under this subsection shall be expended in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Committee on House Administration.

SEC. 7. TERMINATION AND DISPOSITION OF RECORDS.

(a) Termination.—The Select Committee shall terminate 30 days after filing the final report under section 4.

(b) Disposition Of Records.—Upon termination of the Select Committee—

(1) the records of the Select Committee shall become the records of such committee or committees designated by the Speaker; and

(2) the copies of records provided to the Select Committee by a committee of the House under section 6(a) shall be returned to the committee.

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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

Postby admin » Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:44 am

‘Crook’: Anxious Trumpworld Preps For ‘Worst-Case’ As Star GOP Lawyer Says Trump Will Be Indicted
Jun 30, 2022

Hutchinson’s bombshell testimony before the Jan. 6 committee, Donald Trump’s top lawyer during the insurrection, Pat Cipollone, has been subpoenaed by the House panel. Pat Cipollone had warned Trump aides of possible crimes regarding the Jan. 6 insurrection. Meanwhile, Trump is on defense, denying Hutchinson’s grave claims as some MAGA vets turn on him. MSNBC’s Ari Melber reports on the escalating investigation.



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SOMEONE WHO SAYS HE ALSO TRIES
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TO DEAL WITH LEGAL ANALYSIS.
1:12
PERHAPS, IT IS A MORE CONFIDENT
1:14
VARIETY.
1:16
HE CLEARLY WAS IN THE REAGAN
1:18
REVOLUTION BUT HE IS RESPOND TO
1:19
THE EVIDENCE.
1:20
HE SAYS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
1:21
EVIDENCE, AS A CRIMINAL-LEGAL
1:23
MATTER, IT IS DEVASTATING
1:26
AGAINST TRUMP, AND THAT THE NEW
1:27
EVIDENCE IN THAT HEARING MAKES A
1:28
BIG DIFFERENCE.
1:28
HE IS SAYING THIS IN PUBLIC AND
1:31
THIS WEEK, HE IS NOW EMPHASIZING
1:33
THAT REALLY AS FAR AS HE IS
1:34
CONCERNED FOR THE FIRST TIME,
1:35
THERE IS NOW DIRECT EVIDENCE
1:37
SHOWING TRUMP COMMITTED CRIMES,
1:39
AND BACKED VIOLENCE.
1:43
WE WILLLET YOU HEAR IT FOR
1:46
YOURSELF.
1:46
>> TRUMP WAS CLEARLY AWARE JUST
1:48
MOMENTS BEFORE HE TOOK THE
1:50
PODIUM THAT YOU HAD A MOB OF
1:52
HEAVILY-ARMED PEOPLE.
1:53
THE CRITICAL THINGS HE SAYS
1:57
THERE ARE THE THEY ARE NOT HERE
1:58
TO HURT ME, WHICH MEAN --
1:59
IMPLIES THAT, IN HIS MIND, HE
2:01
KNOWS THEY ARE HERE TO HURT
2:04
SOMEONE.
2:04
AND THE SECOND THING HE SAYS IF
2:05
THEY CAN COME IN, THEY CAN HEAR
2:07
ME AND THEN THEY CAN MARCH TO
2:08
THE CAPITOL.
2:09
SO, HE IS VERY AWARE THAT YOU
2:11
HAVE A MOB THAT'S ARMED TO THE
2:14
TEETH, THAT HE IS PLANNING TO --
2:17
TO ENCOURAGE TO -- TO MARCH ON
2:18
THE CAPITOL.
2:21
THAT KNOWLEDGE -- UM -- OPENS UP
2:25
THE POSSIBILITY THAT YOU COULD
2:27
PROSECUTE FOR AIDING AND
2:29
ABETTING THE INTIMIDATION OF
2:30
FEDERAL OFFICIALS, WHICH IS A
2:33
PRETTY SERIOUS.
2:36
CRIME.
2:36
>> DO YOU EXPECT WE ARE GOING TO
2:38
SEE TRUMP PROSECUTED BY THE
2:39
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ON -- ON ANY
2:40
OF THESE CHARGES?
2:41
>> I DO NOW, YEAH.
2:44
>> I DO NOW.
2:48
THAT'S JUST THREE WORDS.
2:51
I GAVE YOU HIS CREDENTIALS.
2:52
HE IS SAYING WHAT HE THINKS WILL
2:53
HAPPEN.
2:54
BASED ON THE EVIDENCE.
2:56
HE DOES THINK THERE IS A CASE TO
2:58
INDICT DONALD TRUMP, AND HE DOES
2:59
THINK IT IS NOW PASSED THE LINE
3:04
FROM DEBATABLE EVIDENCE TO
3:08
OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE OF A
3:08
VIOLENT FELONY WHICH IS SERIOUS,
3:09
THAT'S TRUE.
3:10
AND THAT LAST WORD, "NOW," IT
3:12
SPEAKS TO WHAT EVERYONE IS
3:15
WONDERING ABOUT THESE
3:15
INSURRECTION HEARINGS.
3:16
ABOUT THIS DIFFICULT INTERBRANCH
3:18
PROCESS.
3:18
THE NOW IS THAT THE EVIDENCE HAS
3:20
PASSED A CERTAIN POINT.
3:22
AND I WILL JUST SAY ON A
3:24
PERSONAL NOTE, MR. McCARTHY, A
3:25
LAWYER WHO TALKS ACT THESE
3:27
ISSUE, REPORTS ON THEM, AND
3:28
ANALYZES THEM ON TV, AS DO I,
3:31
THAT NIGHT OF THE HEARING WHEN I
3:33
WAS SITTING THERE, HERE ON MSNBC
3:36
IN OUR COVERAGE FOR YOU WITH
3:38
RACHEL AND OUR WHOLE TEAM, I
3:40
SAID THAT WAS A SAD DAY.
3:42
WE MARKED THAT AS A SAD DAY
3:44
BECAUSE THE OVERWHELMING
3:46
EVIDENCE SHOWED THIS CRIMINAL
3:48
INTENT AND ACTION AND ILLEGAL
3:50
ORDER BY THE PRESIDENT.
3:51
AND I WILL REMIND YOU WHEN I
3:52
SAID THEN.
3:53
IT'S SAD BECAUSE, HAD YOU GET TO
3:55
THAT POINT, THAT IS A SAD THING
3:57
FOR THE COUNTRY.
4:00
AND IF A FORMER PRESIDENT HAS TO
4:01
BE CHARGED BECAUSE THAT IS HAS
4:03
THE EVIDENCE SHOWS, THAT'S GRAVE
4:04
AND SERIOUS.
4:05
AND I SAID THAT IF A FORMER
4:08
PRESIDENT ACTS THAT WAY, THAT
4:08
THE EVIDENCE IS THAT CLEAR AND
4:10
IS NOT CHARGED, THAT IS ALSO
4:12
SAD.
4:12
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, THIS IS
4:13
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT THE
4:15
UNITED STATES OR THIS JUSTICE
4:17
DEPARTMENT WILL DECIDE TO DO
4:17
ABOUT IT, WHEN THERE ARE NO GOOD
4:23
OPTIONS BECAUSE WHEN INCUMBENT
4:24
PRESIDENTS DO WHAT THAT REAGAN'
4:27
APPOINTEE JUST DESCRIBED, WHEN
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THEY MENACE FEDERAL OFFICIALS,
4:31
WHEN THEY OPENLY ENCOURAGE
4:34
VIOLENCE, ISSUE ILLEGAL ORDERS
4:35
TO VIOLENCE, WHEN THEY ATTEMPT A
4:38
COUP, WHETHER PHYSICALLY OR
4:39
VERBALLY, DEMAND TO GO DOWN TO
4:40
THE CAPITOL.
4:41
THAT IS NOT IN DOUBT.
4:42
TO GO HELP AND JOIN ARMED
4:44
SUPPORTERS.
4:44
KRAE, THAT IS A SAD DAY AND
4:48
THAT'S NOW WHAT HE IS BEEN
4:53
EXPOSED AND THAT WAS NOT TO BE
4:55
CLEAR/PROVEN -- THE VIOLENT
4:55
PART, THE ARMED PART, WITH
4:56
REGARD TO DONALD TRUMP'S MIND
4:57
STATE, HIS MENS REA WAS NOT
4:58
PROVEN BEFORE THESE HEARINGS
5:04
BEGAN.
5:04
NOW, THAT IS McCARTHY, AN
5:05
INDEPENDENT-CONSERVATIVE LAWYER.
5:06
THEN YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP'S OWN
5:07
LAWYERS ASK YOU CAN OFTEN TRACK
5:09
YOU HOWE BAD IT IS GOING BY HOW
5:10
THEY ARE DOING.
5:13
GIULIANI HAVING HIS LICENSE
5:15
SUSPENDED TO JOHN EASTMAN HAVING
5:16
HIS PHONE SEIZED AND PAT-DOWN BY
5:18
FEDERAL AGENTS.
5:19
YOU SEE HIM THERE, THE PLOTTER
5:22
HIS HANDS IN THE AIR.
5:28
HE IS URN THE CONTROL OF FEDERAL
5:29
AGENTS HOR DOING A FORCIBLE,
5:29
LAWFUL PAT DOWN AND THEY TOOK
5:30
HIS PHONE.
5:31
WE HAVE MORE ON THAT STORY
5:34
TONIGHT.
5:34
SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN OVER
5:37
SHADOWED BY THE HEARINGS.
5:37
AND NOW, WE HAVE THIS
5:40
DEVELOPMENT THAT CONGRESS HAS
5:42
HAD IT WITH DONALD TRUMP'S
5:42
GOVERNMENT LAWYER SERVING DURING
5:45
THE INSURRECTION, WHITE HOUSE
5:46
COUNSEL PAT CIPOLLONE.
5:47
LIZ SHANE KRI HAD BEEN PUBLICLY
5:49
PLEADING AND WARNING HIM TO
5:52
COOPERATE.
5:52
HE IS A LAWYER.
5:52
HE KNOWS HE HAS A LAWFUL
5:54
OBLIGATION HERE BUT HE DID NOT.
5:56
NOW, HE IS FACING THIS NEW
5:58
SUBPOENA.
5:59
AND THERE IS AN OLD SAYING --
6:01
HOW MANY LAWYERS YOU GOT?
6:02
A LOT?
6:02
IT'S NOT A GOOD SIGN WHEN YOU
6:04
HAVE TOO MANY LAWYERS.
6:05
LET ALONE, WHEN YOUR LAWYERS
6:08
NEED LAWYERS.
6:09
OR WHEN YOUR LAWYERS NEED,
6:11
SPECIFICALLY, CRIMINAL-DEFENSE
6:14
LAWYERS.
6:14
WELL, WE KNOW GIULIANI NEEDS HIS
6:16
OWN LAWYER.
6:20
EASTMAN SPECIFICALLY NEED
6:21
CRIMINAL LAWYERS.
6:23
I SHOWED YOU ONE JUST NOW.
6:24
AND TONIGHT, I CAN TELL YOU
6:26
CIPOLLONE WILL NEED A LAWYER TO
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AT LEAST HANDLE THIS NEW
6:28
SUBPOENA CLASH, FOR STARTERS.
6:30
AND IF YOU WANT TO SAY, OKAY,
6:32
HOW DOES THIS TIE TO WHAT DEPD
6:34
THIS WEEK?
6:36
WELL, THE STAR WITNESS WAS NOT
6:37
ONLY IMPLICATING WHAT ANDREW
6:40
McCARTHY SAYS ARE INDICTABLE
6:43
OFFENSES COMMITTED BY DONALD
6:44
TRUMP.
6:44
THE STAR WITNESS ALSO RECOUNTED
6:46
MR. CIPOLLONES, AT TIMES,
6:48
PIVOTAL ROLE.
6:51
>> ON JANUARY 3rd, MR. CIPOLLONE
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HAD APPROACHED ME.
6:55
MR. CIPOLLONE AND I HAD A BRIEF,
6:57
PRIVATE CONVERSATION WHERE HE
7:02
SAID TO ME WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
7:03
THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.
7:05
THIS WOULD BE A LEGALLY TERRIBLE
7:06
IDEA FOR US.
7:08
MR. CIPOLLONE SAID SOMETHING TO
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THE EFFECT OF PLEASE MAKE SURE
7:12
WE DON'T GO UP TO THE CAPITOL,
7:19
CASSIDY.
7:20
>> BARRELING DOWN THE HALLWAY
7:20
TOWARD OUR OFFICE.
7:21
PAT WAS CONCERNED IT WOULD LOOK
7:22
LIKE WE ARE OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE.
7:22
FOR OBSTRUCTING THE ELECTORAL
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COLLEGE COUNT.
7:27
>> THAT LAST QUOTE IS WHAT SHE
7:28
SAYS CIPOLLONE TOLD HER ABOUT
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TWO CRIMES HE WAS WORRIED THAT
7:34
WERE IN PROGRESS BY TRUMP
7:35
OFFICIALS.
7:36
AND THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD HER.
7:38
YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THIS THING
7:40
CROPPING UP ON THE RIGHT WHERE
7:42
SOME FOLKS WHO ARE SIFRM THETIC
7:43
TO TRUMP WILL SAY SOME OF THIS
7:46
IS HEARSAY.
7:47
TWO POINTS ON THAT.
7:49
ONE, AS AUDIO LEGAL MATTER, SOME
7:50
OF THIS IS HEARSAY.
7:50
BUT THIS IS NOT A CRIMINAL YET.
7:52
IF FOLKS ARE INDICTED FOR THOSE
7:55
TYPE OF OFFENSES, THEN YOU DEAL
7:55
OF THE HEARSAY RULES.
7:57
TWO, THE REASON THE CIPOLLONE'
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TESTIMONY IS CURRENTLY HEARSAY
8:03
IS BECAUSE OF ONE PERSON -- NOT
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HER, NOT THE STAR WITNESS JUST
8:06
HEARD, NOT THE OTHER WITNESSES,
8:08
NOT THE COMMITTEE, THE ONLY
8:10
REASON IT IS ALLEGEDLY HEARSAY
8:11
IS BECAUSE MR. CIPOLLONE HAS NOT
8:14
COME IN TO TESTIFY FULLY ON THE
8:16
RECORD ACCORDING TO THE
8:18
COMMITTEE.
8:19
AGAIN GIVEN DAY HE OR MIKE PENCE
8:25
OR ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO
8:26
ADDRESS SO-CALLED HEARSAY CAN
8:26
STAND UP, SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF
8:27
COURAGE AS MUCH AS ALL THEIR
8:30
OTHER MORE JUNIOR AIDES HAVE AND
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ELIMINATE THE HEARSAY AND TALK
8:32
AND COOPERATE.
8:33
NOW, IN FAIRNESS, I WANT TO BE
8:34
CLEAR WITH YOU.
8:36
CIPOLLONE IS NOT IN THAT
8:37
CATEGORY OF THE BANNONS OR
8:40
NAVARROS WHO HAVE JUST OPINION
8:43
COMPLETELY DEFIANT.
8:43
HE DID TAKE MEASURES.
8:45
PREVIOUSLY HAD A MEETING WITH
8:46
THE COMMITTEE BUT NOT UNDER
8:48
OATH.
8:48
HE THEN REFUSED TO TESTIFY
8:50
PUBLICLY H REQUESTED.
8:51
AND NOW, WITH THE SUBPOENA, THAT
8:52
IS MORE HEAT ON HIM ASK THERE IS
8:54
A SOURCE SAYING HE MIGHT
8:58
CONSIDER SITTING FOR TRANSCRIBED
8:59
TESTIMONY.
9:00
SO HE IS NOT IN THE
9:00
TOTAL-DEFIANCE CAMP, NOR IS HE
9:01
IN THE COOPERATION CAMP.
9:02
WILL THE SUBPOENA PRESS HIM?
9:03
WELL, IT IS BRAND NEW AND WE'LL
9:05
FIND OUT.
9:07
>>> MEANWHILE, DONALD TRUMP
9:08
SEEING SOME CRACKS AMONG HIS OWN
9:11
FORMER AIDES, LAWYER, AND
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SUPPORTERS ASK HE IS NOT TURNING
9:14
TO FOX NEWS WHICH SHAZ FEATURED
9:16
SOME OF THE COVERAGE OF THESE
9:17
DAMNING FACTS.
9:18
INSTEAD, HE ACTUALLY ENT WITH
9:20
OUT TO NEWS MAX, NEW THIS WEEK,
9:21
TO DENY THE ALLEGATION, THE KEY
9:24
ONE THAT HE KNEW PEOPLER WITH
9:24
ARMED AND THEN TO ATTACK, AGAIN,
9:27
YET ANOTHER TRUMP AIDE WHO HAS
9:28
BEEN TESTIFYING UNDER OATH WITH
9:32
AD HOMINEM PERSONAL ATTACKS
9:33
AGAINST HER.
9:34
SO TAKE IT ALL TOGETHER AND WHAT
9:35
DO YOU SEE COMING IN VIEW
9:38
?
9:38
THIS IS NOT THE SIGN OF SOME
9:40
RANDOM KIND OF WASHINGTON
9:43
PROCESS THAT IS JUST WINDING
9:45
DOWN.
9:45
COMMITTEE IS NOT ACTING LIKE
9:47
THAT.
9:47
WITNESS AREN'T ACTING LIKE THAT.
9:48
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT
9:50
ACTING LIKE THAT AS IT SEIZES
9:52
PHONES AND RAIDS HOME.
9:52
AND INTERESTINGLY, NOT EVEN
9:57
DONALD TRUMP, HE IS NOT ACTING
9:59
LIKE THAT.
10:00
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THE BINDING
10:03
AND SERIOUS EVIDENCE THAT'S BEEN
10:04
SUBMITTED HERE ON THE RECORD,
10:06
THAT IS
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Watergate Prosecutor: Trump ‘Up To His Eyeballs In Criminality’
The Katie Phang Show
Jun 30, 2022

The January 6th Committee held a special last minute hearing this past week containing bombshell testimony from former aide to Mark Meadows Cassidy Hutchinson. Watergate prosecutor Nick Akerman joins Katie Phang to discuss. »



0:07
>>> WE ARE STILL PROCESSING
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TODAY'S EXPLOSIVE -- EXCUSE ME,
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TUESDAY'S EXPLOSIVE JANUARY 6th
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HEARING WITH CASSIDY HUTCHINSON,
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A FORMER TOP AIDE TO TRUMP CHIEF
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OF STAFF MARK MEADOWS.
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AND AMID ALL THE NEW
0:19
REVELATIONS, THERE IS ONE KEY
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THREAD THAT THE COMMITTEE LAID
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OUT THAT MADE THIS THE MOST
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IMPORTANT HEARING YET.
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IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS, THE
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COMMITTEE HAS DETAILED THAT
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TRUMP'S ONLY PEOPLE EXPLAINED TO
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HIM AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT THE
0:32
2020 ELECTION WAS NOT STOLEN.
0:34
AND YET STILL HE PUSHED HIS
0:36
CONSPIRACIES IN ORDER TO
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PRESSURE STATE OFFICIALS TO
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OVERTURN THEIR RESULTS.
0:41
ON TUESDAY, WHAT CASSIDY
0:43
HUTCHINSON POINTED TO IN HER
0:44
TESTIMONY IS THAT WHEN TRUMP'S
0:45
SCHEMES BEGAN TO FALL APART,
0:47
TRUMP AND HIS INNER CIRCLE SET
0:49
THEIR SIGHTS ON JANUARY 6th.
0:53
>> AS MR. GIULIANI AND I WHERE
0:56
WALKING TO OUR VEHICLES THAT
0:57
EVENING HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID
0:59
SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF,
1:01
CASS, ARE YOU EXCITED, THE 6th
1:03
IS GOING TO BE A GREAT DAY,
1:05
WE'RE GOING TO THE CAPITOL, IT'S
1:07
GOING TO BE GREAT, THE PRESIDENT
1:08
IS GOING TO BE THERE, HE'S GOING
1:10
TO LOOK POWERFUL, HE'S GOING TO
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BE WITH THE MEMBERS, GOING TO BE
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WITH THE SENATORS.
1:15
TALK TO THE CHIEF ABOUT IT, HE
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KNOWS ABOUT IT.
1:18
HE REMEMBER HIM LEANING AGAINST
1:20
THE DOORWAY AND SAYING, I HAD AN
1:22
INTERESTING CONVERSATION WITH
1:23
RUDY, MARK, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE
1:24
GOING TO GO TO THE CAPITOL.
1:25
HE DIDN'T LOOK UP FROM HIS PHONE
1:27
AND SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT
1:29
OF, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON,
1:31
CASS, BUT I DON'T KNOW, THINGS
1:33
MIGHT GET REAL, REAL BAD ON
1:34
JANUARY 6th.
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>> VIDEO AND AUDIO RELEASED BY
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THE COMMITTEE SHOW THAT ON THE
1:43
MORNING OF JANUARY 6th, THERE
1:45
WERE TRUMP RALLY ATTENDEES THAT
1:47
HAD WEAPONS INCLUDING PISTOLS,
1:50
MAKESHIFT SPEARS AND AR-15s.
1:52
ACCORDING TO MS. HUTCHINSON,
1:55
DONALD TRUMP KNEW THEY WERE
1:56
ARMED AND WANTED THEM TO MARCH
1:57
ON THE CAPITOL ANYWAY.
1:58
>> I OVERHEARD THE PRESIDENT SAY
2:01
SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, I
2:03
DON'T EFFING CARE THAT THEY HAVE
2:05
WEANS, THEY'RE NOT HERE TO
2:07
HURT ME, TAKE THE EFFING MAGS
2:10
AWAY, LET THE PEOPLE IN, TAKE
2:13
THE EFFING MAGS AWAY.
2:15
>> IF MS. HUTCHINSON'S SWORN
2:25
TESTIMONY IS TRUE, HE KNEW WHAT
2:27
THEY HAD COME PREPARED FOR WHEN
2:29
HE TOLD THEM TO FIGHT LIKE HELL.
2:31
THE VIOLENCE ON JANUARY 6th WAS
2:33
NOT A MISTAKE.
2:34
IT WAS THE PLAN.
2:35
NOW WE KNOW THE COMMITTEE IS NOT
2:36
DONE YET.
2:37
FAR FROM IT.
2:38
ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT THEY
2:40
SUBPOENAED FORMER WHITE HOUSE
2:41
COUNSEL PAT CIPOLLONE, A NAME
2:43
THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP
2:44
REPEATEDLY IN THESE HEARINGS AND
2:46
FEATURED PROMINENTLY IN MS.
2:48
HUTCHINSON'S TESTIMONY.
2:49
>> MR. CIPOLLONE SAID SOMETHING
2:52
TO THE EFFECT OF, PLEASE MAKE
2:53
SURE WE DON'T GO UP TO THE
2:55
CAPITOL, CASSIDY, KEEP IN TOUCH
2:56
WITH ME, WE'RE GOING TO GET
2:58
CHARGED WITH EVERY CRIME
3:00
IMAGINABLE IF WE MAKE THAT
3:02
MOVEMENT HAPPEN.
3:03
>> CIPOLLONE'S TESTIMONY COULD
3:05
CORROBORATE AND FILL IN KEY
3:08
DETAILS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S
3:09
ACTIONS LEADING UP TO AND ON
3:11
JANUARY 6th.
3:13
AND IT WOULD ONLY BOLSTER THIS
3:15
THRUST OF THE COMMITTEE'S CASE,
3:17
THAT WHAT WE SAW THAT DAY WAS
3:18
DONALD TRUMP'S DESPERATE,
3:20
VIOLENT, AND POTENTIALLY ILLEGAL
3:23
LAST-DITCH EFFORT TO STAY IN
3:24
POWER.
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JOINING ME NOW IS FORMER
3:29
ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
3:30
AND FORMER ASSISTANT SPECIAL
3:31
WATERGATE PROSECUTOR NICK
3:33
ACKERMAN.
3:34
NICK, IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO
3:35
SPEND TIME WITH YOU.
3:36
WE'LL GET TO PAT CIPOLLONE IN A
3:39
MINUTE.
3:39
>> SURE.
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>> BUT FIRST I HAVE TO ASK YOU,
3:42
AFTER CASSIDY HUTCHINSON'S
3:43
TESTIMONY, JUST HOW MUCH DEEPER
3:45
DID TRUMP'S LEGAL EXPOSURE GET?
3:47
>> OH, IT'S -- HE'S UP TO HIS
3:50
EYEBALLS IN CRIMINALITY AT THIS
3:51
POINT.
3:52
I MEAN, THIS TOOK HIM OVER THE
3:54
LINE.
3:54
IF EVER THERE WAS A QUESTION
3:56
BEFORE ABOUT HIS INTENT, WHAT HE
3:59
WANTED TO DO, THIS WAS IT.
4:00
I MEAN, WE KNEW THAT AT LEAST A
4:03
FEW DAYS BEFORE JANUARY 6th,
4:06
THAT TRUMP KNEW THAT HIS VICE
4:08
PRESIDENT WAS NOT GOING TO DO
4:09
HIS BIDDING.
4:10
HE KNEW THAT HIS SCHEME TO GET
4:13
PENCE TO BASICALLY IGNORE THE
4:17
ELECTORAL COLLEGE COUNT AND
4:19
DECLARE HIM THE WINNER BY VIRTUE
4:20
OF ALL OF THESE RIGGED ELECTORAL
4:24
COLLEGE VOTES THAT HE PUT OUT
4:27
THERE, THAT WASN'T GOING TO
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HAPPEN.
4:29
PENCE WASN'T GOING TO SEND THE
4:31
ELECTION BACK TO THE STATES.
4:33
AND SO HIS ONLY ALTERNATIVE HERE
4:37
WAS TO CREATE VIOLENCE AND
4:38
MAYHEM AT THE CAPITOL IN ORDER
4:39
TO STOP THAT COUNT AND THEN HOPE
4:41
THE NEXT DAY, BECAUSE CONGRESS
4:43
HAD NOT CERTIFIED THE VOTE, THAT
4:45
HE SOMEHOW COULD SEND THE VOTE
4:47
BACK TO THE BATTLEGROUND STATES.
4:50
THAT WAS HIS PLAN, AND THAT IS
4:52
CLEARLY A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL
4:55
CRIMINAL LAW.
4:56
IT'S A FRAUD ON THE GOVERNMENT.
4:58
AND IT'S ALSO AN EFFORT TO
5:01
BASICALLY OBSTRUCT CONGRESS
5:03
PERFORMING ITS CONSTITUTIONAL
5:06
FUNCTION.
5:06
>> NICK, I WANT TO PLAY ANOTHER
5:09
PART OF CASSIDY HUTCHINSON'S
5:10
TESTIMONY.
5:10
THIS IS A CONVERSATION SHE
5:12
OVERHEARD BETWEEN MARK MEADOWS
5:14
AND PAT CIPOLLONE ON JANUARY
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6th.
5:16
TAKE A LISTEN.
5:18
>> I REMEMBER PAT SAYING
5:19
SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF,
5:22
MARK, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING
5:24
MORE, THEY'RE LITERALLY CALLING
5:25
FOR THE VICE PRESIDENT TO BE
5:27
EFFING HUNG.
5:28
AND MARK HAD RESPONDED SOMETHING
5:30
TO THE EFFECT OF, YOU HEARD HIM,
5:33
PAT, HE THINKS MIKE DESERVES IT,
5:35
HE DOESN'T THINK THEY'RE DOING
5:36
ANYTHING WRONG, TO WHICH PAT
5:39
SAID SOMETHING, THIS IS EFFING
5:42
CRAZY, WE NEED TO BE DOING
5:43
SOMETHING MORE.
5:44
>> YOU KNOW, NICK, HOW CRUCIAL
5:46
IS A DEPOSITION OR SOME VERSION
5:48
OR FORM OF SWORN TESTIMONY FROM
5:50
PAT CIPOLLONE GOING TO BE FOR
5:52
THIS COMMITTEE?
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I MEAN, THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE GOING
5:54
TO WANT TO ASK HIM ABOUT THAT
5:55
EXCHANGE AND OTHERS THAT WE
5:57
HEARD ABOUT DURING HUTCHINSON'S
5:58
TESTIMONY, RIGHT?
5:59
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
6:00
AND YOU REALLY LAID IT OUT ON
6:02
THE MONEY RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING
6:04
OF THIS THING, WHEN YOU SAID
6:05
THAT WHAT PAT CIPOLLONE DOES IS,
6:08
HE CORROBORATES THE TESTIMONY OF
6:11
CASSIDY HUTCHINSON.
6:12
I MEAN, THERE'S NO REASON FOR
6:16
ANYBODY TO DISBELIEVE PAT
6:18
CIPOLLONE.
6:18
HE'S THE LAWYER WHO ACTUALLY
6:20
DEFENDED DONALD TRUMP IN THE
6:21
FIRST IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING.
6:23
HE BASICALLY SHOULD BE ABLE TO
6:26
CONFIRM EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF
6:29
CASSIDY HUTCHINSON'S TESTIMONY.
6:29
AND IF HE DOES, THEN THERE'S
6:32
REALLY NO QUESTION AT THAT
6:34
POINT.
6:34
IT'S ALMOST AS GOOD AS HAVING A
6:36
TAPE RECORDING.
6:37
THAT'S WHY PAT CIPOLLONE IS SO
6:40
IMPORTANT.
6:40
WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO CASSIDY
6:42
HUTCHINSON IS THE SAME THING
6:45
THAT THE REPUBLICANS DID TO JOHN
6:47
DEAN AFTER HE TESTIFIED IN THE
6:50
WATERGATE COMMITTEE.
6:50
THEY CAME OUT AT HIM,
6:52
QUESTIONING HIS CREDIBILITY, AND
6:55
THEN LO AND BEHOLD, WHAT
6:57
HAPPENS?
6:57
THEY FOUND OUT THERE ARE TAPES
6:58
IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE TAPES
7:01
CORROBORATED JOHN DEAN TO THE
7:03
"T."
7:03
AND I THINK PAT CIPOLLONE IS
7:06
GOING TO DO THE SAME THING HERE,
7:07
ONCE HE COMES IN AND IS
7:08
QUESTIONED UNDER OATH.
7:10
>> NICK, THOUGH, CIPOLLONE SERVE
7:12
AS WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL.
7:14
SO OBVIOUSLY HE COULD TRY TO
7:16
CLAIM EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE ON TOP
7:17
OF OTHER TYPES OF PRIVILEGES,
7:19
RIGHT, FOR SOME TOPICS.
7:21
DO YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE
7:22
A SUCCESSFUL DEFENSE FOR
7:25
CIPOLLONE TO AVOID HAVING TO
7:25
APPEAR BEFORE THE 1/6 COMMITTEE?
7:27
>> IT'S AN ABSURD DEFENSE.
7:29
FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S NO
7:33
ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE.
7:35
PAT CIPOLLONE WAS NOT THE LAWYER
7:37
FOR DONALD TRUMP.
7:38
HE WAS NOT HIS PERSONAL LAWYER.
7:39
HE WAS ONLY HIS LAWYER FOR THE
7:40
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY.
7:42
THERE IS NO ATTORNEY/CLIENT
7:45
PRIVILEGE HE COULD POSSIBLY
7:46
CLAIM.
7:47
SECONDLY, WITH RESPECT TO
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EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE, THE SUPREME
7:49
COURT MADE IT EXTREMELY CLEAR,
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COULDN'T BE ANY CLEARER, 1974,
7:55
U.S. V. NIXON, WHEN YOU HAVE
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CONVERSATIONS IN FURTHERANCE OF
7:58
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, IF DONALD
8:00
TRUMP IS TALKING ABOUT THINGS
8:01
HE'S GOING TO DO THAT ARE A
8:03
CRIME, THERE IS NO EXECUTIVE
8:06
PRIVILEGE.
8:06
EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE ONLY APPLIES
8:08
FOR MATTERS THAT ARE OF STATE,
8:11
THAT RELATE TO NATIONAL
8:13
SECURITY, NATIONAL DEFENSE.
8:15
THE SUPREME COURT COULDN'T HAVE
8:16
LAID IT OUT ANY CLEARER IN U.S.
8:19
V. NIXON.
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THERE ARE NO PRIVILEGES.
8:20
HE HAS TO TESTIFY.
8:23
>> NICK, YOU AND I HAVE HAD THE
8:26
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE
8:28
ABOUT THE GEORGIA INVESTIGATION.
8:30
IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU AND I
8:31
ARE VERY INTERESTED IN AS MOST
8:33
PEOPLE SHOULD BE.
8:34
I WANT TO BRIEFLY TURN TO THAT
8:36
INVESTIGATION.
8:36
THAT IS DONALD TRUMP'S EFFORTS
8:39
TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION IN
8:40
GEORGIA.
8:40
THINGS CONTINUE TO BE BUILDING
8:41
THERE.
8:41
THE DOCUMENTARY FILMMAKER WHO
8:43
FILMED TRUMP AND HIS FAMILY IN
8:44
THE WEEKS AFTER THE ELECTION,
8:45
ALEX HOLDER, HAS BEEN SUBPOENAED
8:47
IT TESTIFY IN THAT SPECIAL GRAND
8:49
JURY BY THE D.A., FANI WILLIS.
8:52
IT LOOKS LIKE THIS INVESTIGATION
8:53
IS LOOKING AT OTHER PEOPLE IN
8:55
TRUMP'S WORLD INCLUDING HIS
8:56
LAWYER RUDY GIULIANI.
8:58
NICK, WHAT DO THOSE DEVELOPMENTS
8:59
SIGNAL TO YOU ABOUT THE STATUS
9:00
OF THAT PARTICULAR
9:02
INVESTIGATION?
9:02
I SEEM TO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS
9:05
GOING TO BE MAYBE THE ONE
9:06
INVESTIGATION THAT DOES DONALD
9:07
TRUMP IN.
9:08
>> OH, I TOTALLY AGREE, THIS IS
9:11
THE INVESTIGATION EVERYBODY
9:12
SHOULD KEEP THEIR EYES ON.
9:14
BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT DONALD TRUMP
9:17
ON TAPE TWICE, WITH BRAD
9:21
RAFFENSPERGER, TRYING TO
9:22
THREATEN AND PRESSURE HIM INTO
9:23
BASICALLY FINDING MORE VOTES SO
9:25
HE CAN TAKE THE ELECTORAL VOTES
9:27
IN GEORGIA.
9:28
YOU'VE GOT HIM ON TAPE WITH THE
9:30
CHIEF INVESTIGATOR.
9:31
AND YOU'VE GOT RUDY GIULIANI ON
9:33
TAPE ALSO, TALKING TO THE
9:36
GEORGIA SENATE, AND ON TOP OF
9:37
ALL THAT, YOU'VE GOT THE
9:39
GOVERNOR OF THE STATE, BRIAN
9:42
KEMP, WHO WAS PRESSURED AND
9:44
THREATENED BY DONALD TRUMP TO
9:45
CHANGE THE VOTE AND TO CALL THE
9:48
LEGISLATURE INTO SESSION.
9:49
I MEAN, THIS IS THE KIND OF
9:51
EVIDENCE WHERE YOU'VE GOT TAPE
9:53
RECORDINGS, YOU'VE GOT LOTS OF
9:55
WITNESSES, THEY ALL CORROBORATE
9:57
EACH OTHER.
9:58
I THINK IF THERE IS ONE CASE
10:00
THAT IS GOING TO DO IN DONALD
10:02
TRUMP, THIS IS IT, BECAUSE AT
10:05
THE END OF THE DAY, MERRICK
10:06
GARLAND HAS TO MAKE A DECISION
10:08
HERE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT
10:09
THERE'S GOING TO BE A FEDERAL
10:10
CASE.
10:10
AND HE'S GOT A MAJOR PROBLEM IN
10:12
DOING SO, BECAUSE OF A CONFLICT
10:14
IN THE SENSE THAT HE WOULD BE
10:17
PROSECUTING NOT JUST A FORMER
10:19
PRESIDENT BUT HE WOULD BE
10:21
PROSECUTING SOMEBODY WHO IS
10:23
LIKELY TO BE THE PRIME OPPONENT
10:26
OF JOE BIDEN IN THE 2024
10:28
ELECTION.
10:29
SO HE EITHER HAS TO DEFER TO
10:32
GEORGIA, WHICH HE CAN DO UNDER
10:34
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
10:36
GUIDELINES, HE CAN BASICALLY
10:38
DECLINE PROSECUTION IN FAVOR OF
10:40
THE GEORGIA PROSECUTION, WHICH
10:41
IS SOMETHING I THINK HE COULD
10:43
DO.
10:44
OR HE COULD APPOINT SOMEBODY
10:45
WHO'S REALLY A SPECIAL
10:48
PROSECUTOR, NOT UNDER THE
10:50
RIDICULOUS GUIDELINE THAT THEY
10:51
HAVE NOW IN THE DEPARTMENT OF
10:52
JUSTICE, THAT LETS THEM PUT THE
10:55
THUMB ON THE SCALE OF THE AND
10:57
PROSECUTOR, SPECIAL COUNSEL, AND
10:59
BE A REAL SPECIAL COUNSEL LIKE
11:01
THEY HAD IN WATERGATE WITH
11:11
ARCHIBALD COX, WHO HAD TOTAL
11:15
INDEPENDENCE.
11:16
IT DEPENDS WHAT THE POTENTIAL
11:17
DEFENSES ARE TRUMP CAN RAISE AND
11:18
HOW STRONG THE GEORGIA CASE IS.
11:21
AND RIGHT NOW, I PUT MY MONEY ON
11:24
THE GEORGIA CASE.
11:25
>> NICK ACKERMAN, THANK YOU FOR
11:26
YOUR TIME.
11:27
WE'LL KEEP ON WATCHING THAT
11:28
GEORGIA CASE.
11:29
WE'LL HAVE YOU BACK SO WE CAN
11:30
START BREAKING DOWN EXACTLY WHAT
11:32
HAPPENS IF AN INDICTM
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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

Postby admin » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:08 pm

Meet the Colorado man whose identity was allegedly stolen by Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters: Gerald Wood speaks publicly for the first time about his connection to the embattled election official
by Jesse Paul
The Colorado Sun
Monday, Jun 27, 2022 10:27 Updated Thursday, Jun. 30, 2022 3:04

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Gerald Wood, right, and his wife, Wendi. (Handout photo, via The The Colorado Sun)

Gerald Wood thought it was odd when after meeting with Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters he was told to hand over the county ID badge he had just been issued to be a contractor for her office.

It was May 2021 and Wood, a private sector software engineer who goes by “Jerry,” had recently been asked by Peters to go through a background check so that he could do occasional information technology work. Peters, who Wood had met through a group in Mesa County investigating the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, said she needed help with some tasks that the county’s normal IT staff members couldn’t handle.

Given his professional background, which includes work in data security, Wood thought it was “weird” that Peters’ office wanted to keep the ID. That wasn’t a best practice, he thought, planning to make sure Peters knew that if he was ever asked to do a security analysis for her.

Wood, 56, never got another chance to use that badge. Nor did he ever do any work for the Mesa County Clerk’s Office. “I’ve never even seen the election equipment,” he said.

It wasn’t until authorities searched Wood’s Mesa County home in August 2021 that he started to find out what happened to his access badge and how he was at the center of a controversy soon to be the focus of national headlines. Investigators say Peters let another man assume Wood’s identity to attend a sensitive election system software update completed by Denver-based Dominion Voting Systems and the Colorado Secretary of State’s Office, which called the incident a security breach.


Peters and her deputy, Belinda Knisley, were indicted in the breach, including for allegedly stealing Wood’s identity.

‘I would like for the attacks to stop’

Wood, who has been caught up in the intense spotlight shining on Peters, has mostly stayed silent since news of the breach broke last summer. But he is now speaking publicly about the case after Peters, who was running to be Colorado’s next secretary of state, alleged that he perjured himself in his testimony before the grand jury that indicted her.

“I would like for the attacks to stop,” he told The Colorado Sun in an extended interview June 23. “I did not perjure myself. I am considered a victim in this. I wasn’t there and I wasn’t part of this.”

Wood and his wife, Wendi, say they have been through a lot because of Peters. Their house has been searched by local law enforcement and the FBI. Gerald Wood was compelled to testify before a grand jury. Their names have appeared in news media stories and some people in their social circle have turned against the couple, calling Gerald “Judas Jerry.”


“We have a strong relationship with God, so we have worked through a lot of those (anger) emotions already,” said Wendi Wood, who is a pastor. “But there are days we struggle.”

She thinks Peters, whose Navy SEAL son died in 2017 when his parachute failed to open at a public demonstration, “is a wounded person” who is acting out and scared.

“I think her heart was probably in the right place originally,” Wendi Wood said. “But I think that her execution was so poor. She could have done all of this lawfully and she did not choose that.”

Peters
, who believes the unfounded claim that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from Donald Trump and has made that claim central to her secretary of state bid, is charged with criminal impersonation, a felony, and identity theft for allegedly using Wood’s county ID to get an unauthorized person into the election system software update.

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Tina Peters during the GOP assembly at the Broadmoor World Arena on April 9 in Colorado Springs. (Hugh Carey/The Colorado Sun file)

Photos of passwords used during the update were posted online, as was a copy of the county’s election system. Authorities have not said who the man is who allegedly used Wood’s identity.

Peters, meanwhile, denies that she stole anyone’s identity. “If someone is saying that to the grand jury, they’re going to be guilty of perjury,” she told the Sun in an interview with The Unaffiliated politics newsletter earlier this month.

Peters has maintained her innocence – “everything I’ve ever done has been truthful” – and claims, without evidence, that the charges against her are part of a major conspiracy tied to the highest levels of the federal government.

“I do not believe they will ever, ever allow this to go to trial,” Peters said, “because they know I know where the bodies are buried.”


She said she would never plead guilty in the case and that “there will never be a conviction.”

Giving Peters the benefits of the doubt

Wood was in South Dakota in August 2021 for the cyber symposium hosted by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, one of the nation’s loudest election conspiracy theorists, when he learned that authorities were investigating him. He found out about the probe when investigators arrived at his home to search it and seized electronic devices.

Wood had not spoken to Peters or Knisley after turning in his access badge and when investigators searched his home. He simply thought they had decided not to hire him or that they didn’t need help. Then, suddenly, he received a middle-of-the-night phone call from his wife alerting him to the criminal investigation.

“There were so many things being said,” Gerald Wood said. “My name (was) all over the news and things that were completely wild and untrue. I was still trying to figure out what was true and what was not.”

Wendi Wood said she and her husband, who are both Republicans, “always wanted to give (Peters) the benefit of the doubt.”

But slowly the Woods came to realize that the situation couldn’t be explained away. Everything really “cemented” for Gerald Wood when he was called before the grand jury to testify.

“We realized that, ‘OK, they must have solid evidence at this point,’” he said.


Wood says he never did any work for the Mesa County Clerk and Recorder’s Office and he never touched, let alone saw, Mesa County’s election equipment. He says he provided alibis – a church gathering and a family graduation party – for the dates during which alleged illegal activity occurred at the office.

Authorities have indicated that Wood is no longer under investigation.

The Woods say they still have concerns about the 2020 presidential election and the U.S. election system in general.

(Trump’s own allies, including former Attorney General Bill Barr and his daughter, Ivanka, have rejected claims that the 2020 election was stolen. Additionally, courts have tossed out malfeasance claims by Trump and his supporters.)

“I wouldn’t say that we’re making, you know, any absolute claims that (the 2020 presidential election) was stolen,” Gerald Wood said. “But I’m very concerned that our elections are not run very well.”

As for the Republican primary for secretary of state in Colorado, Gerald and Wendi don’t plan to vote for Peters. They are backing Mike O’Donnell, a nonprofit executive from the Eastern Plains who has no election administration experience. O’Donnell says Democrat Joe Biden won in 2020, but has vowed to try to make changes to Colorado’s election system, including by taking a look at the state’s voter rolls.

Pam Anderson, a former Jefferson County clerk, is also running for the Republican nomination for secretary of state.

The primary election is June 28.
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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

Postby admin » Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:40 pm

Accounts of Trump angrily demanding to go to Capitol on January 6 circulated in Secret Service over past year
by Noah Gray and Zachary Cohen
CNN
Updated 1:24 PM ET, Sat July 2, 2022

(CNN)Then-President Donald Trump angrily demanded to go to the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, and berated his protective detail when he didn't get his way, according to two Secret Service sources who say they heard about the incident from multiple agents, including the driver of the presidential SUV where it occurred.

The sources tell CNN that stories circulated about the incident -- including details that are similar to how former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson described it to the House select committee investigating January 6 -- in the months immediately afterward the US Capitol attack and before she testified this week.

While the details from those who heard the accounts differ, the Secret Service sources say they were told an angry confrontation did occur. And their accounts align with significant parts of Hutchinson's testimony, which has been attacked as hearsay by Trump and his allies who also have tried to discredit her overall testimony.

Like Hutchinson, one source, a longtime Secret Service employee, told CNN that the agents relaying the story described Trump as "demanding" and that the former President said something similar to: "I'm the f**king President of the United States, you can't tell me what to do." The source said he originally heard that kind of language was used shortly after the incident.

"He had sort of lunged forward -- it was unclear from the conversations I had that he actually made physical contact, but he might have. I don't know," the source said. "Nobody said Trump assaulted him; they said he tried to lunge over the seat -- for what reason, nobody had any idea."

The employee said he'd heard about the incident multiple times as far back as February 2021 from other agents, including some who were part of the presidential protective detail during that time period but none of whom were involved in the incident.

The source added that agents often recounted stories of Trump's fits of anger, including the former President throwing and breaking things.

"Not just plates," the source added, a reference to how Hutchinson testified this week that she saw ketchup on the wall and a porcelain plate shattered on the floor of the White House dining room after Trump had thrown his lunch at the wall upon hearing about then-Attorney General William Barr telling a media outlet there was no widespread fraud in the 2020 election.


The other Secret Service source, who spoke to the driver and another agent who wasn't there, said he heard about Trump verbally lashing out at his detail but not about any physical altercation. Neither source told CNN they had heard about Trump trying to grab at the steering wheel.

Three of the people present for the encounter in the presidential SUV, a modified armored version of a Chevrolet Suburban were Trump, detail leader Robert "Bobby" Engel, and the driver whose identify is not publicly known at this time.

Hutchinson herself didn't see the incident firsthand. She testified at the select committee hearing on Tuesday that she was told about it by then-White House deputy chief of staff Tony Ornato. She said Ornato told her the story in front of Engel.

She testified that Ornato told her that Engel repeatedly informed Trump on their way back to the White House after Trump's Ellipse speech that it wasn't safe to go to the Capitol.

According to Hutchinson, Ornato recounted Trump screaming, "I'm the f**king President. Take me up to the Capitol now." Trump then "reached up toward the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel," Hutchinson recalled Ornato saying. She added that, according to Ornato, Trump used his other hand to "lunge" at Engel.

Hutchinson also testified that Trump and her boss, the then-President's chief of staff Mark Meadows, were aware of the possibility of violence on January 6, 2021, and that Trump supporters had weapons when they gathered on the Ellipse that day.

Engel and Ornato have both testified to the committee behind closed doors, but their statements were not used in the hearing Tuesday.

Neither Engel nor Ornato have commented publicly on Hutchinson's testimony.

A separate Secret Service official previously told CNN that Engel denied that Trump grabbed at the steering wheel or lunged toward an agent on his detail, and that Ornato denied telling Hutchinson the same. The official did not dispute that Trump directed his agents to take him to the Capitol.

Ornato has a close relationship with Trump and his team, having previously served as head of his protective detail and then being granted an unusual leave from his Secret Service duties to be detailed to the White House as deputy chief of staff for operations.

Hutchinson's account of the alleged incident was among the most shocking portions of Tuesday's hearing -- adding to an already damning portrait of how Trump was desperate to get to the Capitol at the time.

Democratic Rep. Zoe Lofgren of California, a member of the committee, said that the agents can come to the panel and dispute the claims under oath.

"No one is denying that the President wanted to go to the Capitol where this armed mob was attacking the Congress and trying to overturn the election," Lofgren said in an interview on CNN's AC360 on Wednesday night. "That is the main point shocking as the story about the limousine lurch was. The real legal import was that he wanted to go up there and nobody is disputing that."

Rep. Stephanie Murphy of Florida, another Democratic member of the committee, said on NBC's "Meet the Press NOW" that "Mr. Ornato did not have as clear of memories from this period of time as I would say Ms. Hutchinson did."

"But we are always happy folks who have recalled things to come back and talk to us," she added.

CNN's Josh Campbell contributed to this report.
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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

Postby admin » Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:51 pm

Two former Trump officials react to Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony
Jun 28, 2022
CNN

Former Trump administration officials Alyssa Farah Griffin and Olivia Troye react to ex-White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson’s stunning testimony before the House select committee investigating January 6. #CNN #News



Transcript

WE'RE JOINED BY TWO FORMER WHITE
HOUSE INSIDERS WHO KNOW CASSIDY
HUTCHINSON WELL, FORMER WHITE
HOUSE DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC
COMMUNICATIONS ALYSSA
FARRAH GRIFFIN, AND A FORMER TOP AIDE TO
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE, OLIVIA TROY.
YOU AND CASSIDY HUTCHINSON ARE CLOSE.
YOU HAVE ACTUALLY SPOKEN TO HER.
I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT HER.
I HAD NEVER SEEN HER SPEAK
OTHER THAN IN THE DEPOSITION.
SHE WAS REMARKABLY COMPOSED AND
CREDIBLE, AND I THINK HER
TESTIMONY WILL BE VERY
IMPACTFUL.
HOW IS SHE DOING?
>> SHE'S DOING GREAT.
SHE'S IN GOOD SPIRITS.
I THINK THE MAGNITUDE OF THE
MOMENT HAS CERTAINLY BEGUN TO
DAWN ON HER AND HOW SIGNIFICANT
OF A ROLE SHE'S PLAYING IN
AMERICAN HISTORY.
SHE'S SOMEBODY WHO I WOULD HAVE
TRUSTED IN ANY SCENARIO TO KEEP
THEIR WORD, TO GET A JOB DONE.
BUT SHE'S BEEN A BEHIND THE SCENES
PLAYER.
SO TO SEE HER FRONT AND CENTER WITH
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
WATCHING AND TO MAINTAIN SUCH
POISE AND CONFIDENCE DOING WHAT
DOZENS OF PEOPLE TWICE HER AGE,
THREE TIMES HER AGE ARE TOO
TERRIFIED TO DO, REFUSING
SUBPOENAS, NOT SHOWING UP, WAS
REMARKABLE, IT WAS INSPIRING, HONESTLY,
AS A WOMAN TO WATCH.
I DON'T KNOW EVEN WHAT THE BIGGEST
TAKE AWAY FROM TODAY WAS.
I HAD A SENSE OF WHAT SHE WAS
GOING TO SAY.
THIS WENT FAR BEYOND ANYTHING I
KNEW OF FROM THE FACT THAT SHE
CONFIRMED THE FORMER PRESIDENT
WANTED TO SEE MORE VIOLENCE ON
JANUARY 6TH.
HE KNEW THERE WERE WEAPONS, AND
HE WANTED TO SEE THEM USED.
TO WANTING TO TAKE OVER THE
BEAST, HIS CAR AND POTENTIALLY
DRIVE IT TO CAPITOL HILL, I
MEAN, SHE PAINTED A PICTURE OF
WHAT WAS EVEN WORSE THAN WHAT I
KNEW WHEN I RESIGNED IN
DECEMBER, EARLY DECEMBER OF
2020, WHICH WAS A MAN UNHINGED,
OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY, AND
WITH ADVISERS AROUND HIM
SEEMINGLY DOING NOTHING TO STOP
IT.
>> YOU WERE IN THE ROOM, OLIVIA
TROY, AND I WANT TO PLAY ONE OF
THE MOST SHOCKING MOMENTS FROM
THE TESTIMONY TODAY, IN WHICH
CASSIDY HUTCHINSON IS
DESCRIBING, SHE'S AT THE LITTLE
STAGING AREA AT THE JANUARY 6TH
RALLY.
THE QUOTE UNQUOTE STOP THE STEAL
RALLY WITH DONALD TRUMP.
HE'S FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THERE
ISN'T AS BIG A CROWD AS POSSIBLE
AND HE'S BLAMING THAT ON THE
MAGNOTOMETERS, SO WE'RE GOING TO
PLAY THAT, AND THEN I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE RESPONSE WAS
LIKE FOR YOU AND OTHERS YOU WERE
SITTING AMONG IN THE COMMITTEE
HEARING WHEN THAT HAPPENED?
>> AND HE FELT THE MAGS WERE AT
FAULT FOR NOT LETTING EVERYBODY
IN, BUT ANOTHER LEADING REASON,
LIKELY THE PRIMARY REASON IS
BECAUSE HE WANTED IT FULL, AND
HE WAS ANGRY THAT WE WEREN'T
LETTING PEOPLE THROUGH THE MAGS
WITH WEAPONS.
THE SECRET SERVICE TEAMS WEAPONS
AND OUR WEAPONS, BUT WE WERE IN
THE OFF STAGE ANNOUNCE TENT I
WAS PART OF A CONVERSATION, I
WAS IN THE VICINITY OF A
CONVERSATION WHERE I OVERHEARD
THE PRESIDENT SAY SOMETHING TO
THE EFFECT OF I DON'T "F-ING"
CARE THAT THEY HAVE WEAPONS.
THEY'RE NOT HERE TO HURT ME.
TAKE THE "F-ING" MAGS AWAY.
>> THEY'RE NOT HERE TO HURT ME.
WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT,
AND WHAT WAS -- AND THEN SHE GOES ON
TO SAY, BY THE WAY, THAT, YOU
KNOW, THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO UP
TO THE CAPITOL ALSO.
WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE?
WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE OF THE
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO WERE IN
THE CAPITOL JANUARY 6TH, THE
OFFICERS WHO WERE WOUNDED ON
JANUARY 6TH?
>> YEAH, IT WAS INFURIATING.
I FELT SICK TO MY STOMACH.
AND AS I WAS SITTING THERE, I HAD A
MEMBER OF CONGRESS TO THE RIGHT
OF ME, CONGRESSMAN GALLEGO, AND TO THE LEFT OF ME I HAD
SERGEANT GONELL WHO SUFFERED
SIGNIFICANT INJURIES THAT DAY, AND THERE WAS MIKE FANONE, HARRY DUNN
HODGES, THEY WERE ALL SITTING THERE,
AND I LOOKED TO THEM TO SEE
THEIR FACES AND WE LOOKED AT
EACH OTHER AND I COULD HEAR THE
AUDIBLE GASP AND ANGER HEARING
THAT CLIP BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK
ABOUT IT, THIS SETS THE PICTURE
OF THE PRESIDENT LEADING THE
CHARGE THERE AND SETTING THEM
UP.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS
SAID RIGHT THERE AS I WAS
SITTING THERE.
THEY SAID, "THEY SET US UP," AND I CAN'T
IMAGINE SEEING THAT CLIP AND
LIVING THAT DAY THE WAY THEY DID
AND SEEING THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES TALK ABOUT A CROWD
THAT WASN'T BIG ENOUGH AND THAT
HAD WEAPONS AND SAYING LET THEM
IN.
>> SO I'VE SEEN IN SOCIAL MEDIA
AND IN MEDIA, NEWS MEDIA THAT
THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE,
INCLUDING CONSERVATIVE LAWYERS
WHO SAY THAT THIS IS THE SMOKING
GUN, THIS IS DONALD TRUMP
KNOWING THAT PEOPLE WERE ARMED
AND NOT CONSIDERING THEM A
THREAT TO HIM AND WANTING TO
SEND THOSE ARMED PEOPLE TO
CAPITOL HILL.
HOW DID YOU INTERPRET IT?
>> I AGREE WITH THAT.
I THINK THE PAT CIPOLLONE QUOTE
WHICH I DON'T WANT TO BOTCH, BUT
ESSENTIALLY SAYING WHY HE SHOULDN'T
DRIVE UP TO CAPITOL HILL BECAUSE
YOU WOULD HAVE COMMITTED A
NUMBER OF FELONIES IN DOING SO
OR CRIMES IN DOING SO WAS VERY
SIGNIFICANT AND I THINK THAT
ALSO SPEAKS TO WHY FRANKLY PAT CIPOLLONE
HAS NOT COME AND TESTIFIED
BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, BUT THIS,
I EXPECTED THIS HEARING TO
REALLY GO AFTER MARK MEADOWS AND
IT CERTAINLY DID THAT, IT
CERTAINLY PUT HIM IN HOT WATER,
BUT THIS TIED IT DIRECTLY TO THE
FORMER PRESIDENT, TALKING ABOUT
THE KNOWLEDGE HE HAD OF THE
DANGER HE WAS PUTTING PEOPLE IN,
AT THE CAPITOL AND HIS OWN VICE
PRESIDENT WHO HE KNEW WAS THERE.
HE WAS FINE WITH PEOPLE WITH
WEAPONS GOING TO CAPITOL HILL.
>> SO JUST THE QUOTE THAT YOU WERE
REFERRING TO IS CASSIDY
HUTCHINSON TESTIFIES SHE HEARS
THE WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL, PAT
CIPOLLONE, AND ONCE AGAIN, TO UNDERLINE,
LOYAL DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTERS,
YOU HAVE TO BE TO BE THE WHITE
HOUSE COUNSEL IN DECEMBER AND
JANUARY OF 2020, 2021, HE SAYS
TO CASSIDY HUTCHINSON, DON'T LET
THE PRESIDENTIAL LIMO, DON'T
TAKE DONALD TRUMP UP TO THE
CAPITOL.
DO NOT LET THAT HAPPEN.
QUOTE, WE'RE GOING TO GET
CHARGED WITH EVERY CRIME
IMAGINABLE IF WE LET THAT
HAPPEN.
>> THEY KNEW.
AND HE STILL WANTED TO GO
FORWARD, AND THEN AGAIN, THIS
INCREDIBLE SCENE OF HIM REACHING
OVER THE WHEEL OF THE BEAST.
I'VE BEEN IN THE BEAST, THIS IS
A MASSIVE VEHICLE, HE'S A HUGE
MAN, HE'S 6'3", 6'4", PHYSICALLY TRYING TO TAKE
CONTROL OF THE CAR. THIS IS A MAN DETACHED FROM REALITY.
AND IF TODAY'S TESTIMONY DOES NOT
MAKE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS AND REPUBLICAN VOTERS
CHANGE THEIR MIND ABOUT THIS
MAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL
BECAUSE IT WAS PURE INSANITY.
>> AND AT THE END OF THE HEARING, LIZ
CHENEY, THE VICE CHAIR, AGAIN, A VERY
CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN.
>>THEY'RE ALL REPUBLICANS
>> LOYAL.
AND NOT JUST REPUBLICANS
VERY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS
WHO SUPPORTED DONALD TRUMP'S
ELECTION IN 2016, ELECTION IN
2020, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, BUT
SHE READS SOME WITNESS, YOU
KNOW, UNNAMED WITNESS
TESTIMONIES, BASICALLY SOUNDING
AS THOUGH TRUMP WORLD IS
REACHING OUT TO THEM AND SAYING
YOU BETTER NOT SAY ANYTHING BAD
ABOUT US BEFORE THE COMMITTEE.
WHETHER BEHIND CLOSED DOORS OR
IN FRONT AND THE SUGGESTION WAS
THAT IT WAS WITNESS TAMPERING,
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE
SCENES.
HAVE YOU HEARD ANY STORIES LIKE
THAT, AND EITHER WAY, WHAT'S
YOUR REACTION.
>> YEAH, I'M NOT SURPRISED TO HEAR
THERE'S INTIMIDATION OF THE
WITNESSES AND BULLYING.
I MEAN, THIS IS HOW THESE PEOPLE BEHAVE.
SO I THINK THAT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT THE COMMITTEE
SHOULD BE INVESTIGATING AND
LOOKING INTO, I THINK THEY'VE MADE
REFERENCE TO THAT THAT THEY ARE
GOING TO LOOK INTO THIS.
AND I THINK GIVEN CASSIDY
HUTCHINSON'S BRAVERY TODAY, I THINK THEY
OWE IT TO PEOPLE LIKE HER AND
OTHERS WHO TOLD THE TRUTH, WHO
WENT ON RECORD WHILE ALL OF
THESE OTHER COWARDS STAND BY AND
ALLOW THIS MOMENT AND CONTINUE
TO ENABLE THIS DANGER THAT CONTINUES ACROSS OUR COUNTRY AND AMERICA.
>> WHAT IS IT LIKE FOR YOU GUYS,
CAUSE I CAN'T ASK CASSIDY HUTCHINSON
THIS QUESTION BUT SHE'S IN THE
SAME GROUP.
WHAT IS IT LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO BE FORMER
MEMBERS OF MAGA, WHICH CLAIMS TO BE A BUNCH OF
ALPHAS WHO THINK THEY'RE SO
MANLY AND HEROIC AND VIRILE, TO BE YOUNG
WOMEN WHO ARE SHOWING MORE COURAGE INDIVIDUALLY THAN
LIKE ALMOST EVERY HOUSE MALE
REPUBLICAN, ALMOST EVERY TRUMP
WHITE HOUSE ADMINISTRATION
OFFICIAL, CERTAINLY MORE SO THAN
CIPOLLONE WHO SOUNDS LIKE HE WAS
TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, BUT
WON'T COME FORWARD AND TESTIFY
MARK MEADOWS, ET
CETERA, WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
>> WELL, I'M SO IN AWE OF WHAT CASSIDY
HUTCHINSON, SARAH MATTHEWS,
PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME FORWARD,
BUT I'LL ALSO SAY THIS, IT'S KIND OF SURREAL TO
WATCH AS SOMEBODY WHO WORKED FOR TRUMP AND
BELIEVED IN PART OF HIS AGENDA,
AND SOMEONE LIKE CASSIDY WHO WAS
A LOYAL FOOT SOLDIER, NO ONE
WOULD HAVE WANTED TO BE IN THIS
POSITION LESS THAN CASSIDY
HUTCHINSON, THIS IS THE LAST
PLACE SHE WANTED TO BE TODAY BUT
SHE FELT HER DUTY TO THE COUNTRY
WAS WAY MORE IMPORTANT THAN HER
PERSONAL LOYALTIES, AND I'M SO
GRATEFUL FOR WOMEN LIKE OLIVIA
WHO HAVE COME FORWARD BUT I
DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THE SEATED
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE WHO
AREN'T STEPPING UP, I DON'T KNOW
WHERE THE YOU KNOW, FORMER
CABINET SECRETARIES WHO HAVE REMAINED CONVENIENTLY QUIET SINCE THIS ARE.
>> WHAT'S IT LIKE FOR YOU?
BECAUSE YOU CAME OUT IN 2020, BASICALLY,
WARNING THE WORLD ABOUT THIS MAN
AND HOW IN YOUR VIEW UNHINGED
AND DANGEROUS HE WAS.
>> YEAH, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR
PEOPLE LIKE CASSIDY WHO ARE OUT
THERE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT
WHAT THE REALITY WAS IN THE DAYS
AND IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE
ELECTION.
IAD T'S FRUSTRATING AND IT'S
ANGERING AT TIMES TO WATCH THESE
PEOPLE CONTINUE TO ENABLE SUCH A
DANGEROUS INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS
PROVEN HIMSELF TO BE DANGEROUS
TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
AND LOOK, CASSIDY, HER LIFE WILL
BE FOREVER CHANGED.
MY LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.
ALYSSA'S LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE
SAME.
BECAUSE WE STOOD UP AND WE TOLD
THE TRUTH.
WE STOOD UP FOR OUR COUNTRY.
AND PEOPLE WILL SAY, YOU KNOW,
THERE'S NOTHING HEROIC ABOUT
THAT.
YOU WORKED IN THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION.
WELL, YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT THE
INTIMIDATION OF WITNESSES.
YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT THE
BULLYING.
THERE ARE NO DOUBTS THERE ARE GOING TO
BE THREATS ON CASSIDY'S LIFE.
I AM WORRIED ABOUT HER SAFETY
LOOK, WE'VE GOTTEN THREATS RECENTLY.
WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS
AND WHAT IT MEANS TO STILL CONTINUE TO BE OUT THERE
TALKING ABOUT THIS AND WARNING PEOPLE.
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Postby admin » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:16 pm

Fmr. 1/6 Committee Advisor: 'I Don’t Think The American Public Has Seen Anything Yet'
MSNBC
Jun 28, 2022

Former Republican Congressman and former advisor the Jan. 6 committee Denver Riggleman weighs in on the bombshell testimony today from Cassidy Hutchinson and previews what more the committee could reveal in future hearings



>>> WHEN YOU FINALLY WERE ABLE
TO GIVE MR. MEADOWS THE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE VIOLENCE
AT THE CAPITOL, WHAT WAS HIS
REACTION?
>> HE ALMOST HAD A LACK OF
REACTION.
I REMEMBER HIM SAYING, ALL
RIGHT, AND SOMETHING TO THE
EFFECT OF HOW MUCH LONGER DOES
THE PRESIDENT HAVE LEFT IN HIS
SPEECH.
>> JOINING OUR COVERAGE FORMER
REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN DENVER
RIGGLEMAN. HE'S ALSO A FORMER ADVISER
TO THE JANUARY 6th SELECT
COMMITTEE.
THE PANEL STLL HERE AS WELL.
DENVER, YOU AND THE WHOLE COMMITTEE IS
SO DISCIPLINED ABOUT NOT GETTING
AHEAD OF THE TESTIMONY IN THE
PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT WE'VE GONE
FROM DONALD TRUMP'S INDIFFERENCE
TO CHANTS OF HANG MIKE PENCE TO
DONALD TRUMP'S COMPLICITY AND
FOREKNOWLEDGE OF VIOLENCE.
TELL ME THE SIGNIFICANCE OF
CASSIDY HUTCHINSON'S TESTIMONY
AROUND DONALD TRUMP KNOWING THAT
HIS SUPPORTERS WERE ARMED IN
SOME INSTANCES AND CARRYING
WEAPONS IN OTHERS, FLAG POLES
WITH SPEARS ATTACHED TO THEM IS WHAT SECRET SERVICE BRIEFED HIM ON.
HE WANTED THEM LET IN BECAUSE HE
KNEW THEY WOULDN'T HURT HIM.
WHAT ELSE DID HE KNOW?
>> WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S THE
THING, YOU HEARD THE TESTIMONY
TODAY, THAT DOESN'T EVEN BRING
IN WHAT THE COMMITTEE HASN'T
DONE YET, WHICH IS THE
OPERATIONAL PLANNING.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT THE PROUD
BOYS AND THE OATH KEEPERS, RALLY
PLANNERS AND ALL THE OTHER
GROUPS THAT ARE ACTUALLY LINKED
TO THIS.
AND I KNOW THE DATA THAT THE
COMMITTEE HAS, AND IT'S ACTUALLY
COMPELLING, AND I HEARD A LOT OF
PEOPLE TALK ABOUT BOMBSHELLS
TODAY, THIS JUST WASN'T A BOMBSHELL, I DID A LOT OF PLANNING, THIS WAS SORT OF A DATA
AND INFORMATION CLUSTER BOMB.
AND I THINK WHAT THAT DOES IS IT
LINKS SORT OF THIS COMPELLING
NEED FOR THE PRESIDENT TO
SUPPORT WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON
JANUARY 6th, AND NICOLLE, YOU
TALKED ABOUT THIS EVEN BEFORE
THE JANUARY 6th, YOU KNOW, THING
THAT HAPPENED THERE.
AND YOU HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS
ABOUT QANON WELL BEFORE THIS
HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6th, BUT
WHAT YOU SAW WERE INDIVIDUALS
THAT WERE SORT OF -- I WOULD SAY
THEY WERE TRYING TO SATISFY THE
VIOLENT WHIMS OF A CREDULOUS HUCKSTER --
AND YOU HAD AN INDIVIDUAL WITH
ME BEING A COUNTERTERRORISM
ANALYST, YOU HAD AN INDIVIDUAL
AT THE TOP OF OUR GOVERNMENT
THAT WAS EITHER FACILITATING OR
SUPPORTING A DOMESTIC TERRORISM
EVENT ON JANUARY 6th.
SO I KNOW THAT'S STRONG
LANGUAGE, BUT I THINK PEOPLE
NEED TO LOOK AT THIS FOR WHAT IT
WAS.
AND AS I WATCHED THIS TODAY, I WAS THINKING ABOUT SANDRA DARRS, THE GIRLFRIEND FOR BRIAN SICKNICK, WHO I KNOW, I WAS THINKING ABOUT USCP, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE BRAVERY OF CASSIDY HUTCHINSON, AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE COMMITTEE ITSELF AND WHAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH, I WAS THINKING BACK ABOUT THE PAST 2-3
YEARS, YOU KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN INDIVIDUALS LIKE MYSELF TALKING ABOUT CONSPIRACY
THEORIES AND FANTASIES.
AND WHAT YOU HAD IS, YOU HAD FANTASIES, LIES AND
ABSOLUTELY BIZARRE INSANITIES THAT
DRIVING THESE PEOPLE TO ATTACK
THE CAPITOL AND YOU HAD A
PRESIDENT THROWING TEMPER
TANTRUMS.
AND EITHER OVERTLY OR
TACITLY SUPPORTING THE
OVERTHROW, I WOULD SAY THE OVERTHROW OF OUR GOVERNMENT AT THAT POINT. YOURE TALKING ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WANTED THE ELECTION RESULTS THROWN AT BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. SO AS I'M WATCHING THIS AS A COUNTERTERRORISM ANALYST, NOT JUST AS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS,
IT REALLY IS SHOCKING TO ME WHAT
HAPPENED TODAY.
AND I DO BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME
REPUBLICANS WHO NEED TO ANSWER
THE QUESTION IF THEY SUPPORT
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP OR NOT AND THEY
NEED TO BE ASKED THAT QUESTION
EVERY DAY.
>> WELL, LIZ CHENEY IS CERTAINLY FOCUSING
HER PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE ROOT
CAUSE OF THE DOMESTIC TERROR
ATTACK, WHICH IS CLEAR, IN
HER VIEW IS DONALD TRUMP. IT'S ALSO
CLEAR THAT WHAT CASSIDY
HUTCHINSON TESTIFIED TO IS
MARK MEADOWS AS AN ACCOMPLICE.
HE WAS IN ON EVERYTHING THAT
TURNED VIOLENT, THE WILLARD
HOTEL AS THE COMMAND CENTER, AND HIS
25-YEAR-OLD CHIEF, BASICALLY THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF
TELLS HIM IT WAS ILL-ADVISED?
I MEAN, IS GEORGE TERWILLIGER IS A REAL
LAWYER, UNLIKE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO DEFEND DONALD TRUMP
WHEN HE GETS IN TROUBLE.
HOW DOES HE, DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO HOW HE IS DEFENDING SOMEONE WHO
SEEMS LIKE AN ACCOMPLICE TO A
COUP?
>> I'M GOING TO BE VERY CAREFUL,
HOW I SAY THIS, NICOLE, I
SAID INITIALLY THAT MARK MEADOWS WAS THE MVP OF
THE COMMITTEE
INVESTIGATION.
TODAY, I THINK WE SEE THAT MARK MEADOWS IS THE
ROSETTA STONE OF THE
INVESTIGATION.
HE WAS SORT OF THE PIVOT MAN FOR EVERYTHING THAT WAS
HAPPENING BETWEEN THESE GROUPS
AND ALSO UP TO THE PRESIDENT. AND
WHEN YOU HEAR AN INDIVIDUAL ON
THE COUCH SENDING TEXT MESSAGES
-- I HAVE THE UNIQUE INSIGHT
INTO BEING THE FIRST TO SEE
SOME OF THOSE TEXT MESSAGES
AFTER WE IDENTIFIED THEM --
SO WHEN I SAW THAT AT THE
BEGINNING, THE COMMITTEE SAW
THE SAME THING, THEY
AUTOMATICALLY KNEW THAT WHAT
THEY SAW ON THE TEXT MESSAGES
-- THAT THERE WAS A STORY HERE THAT THEY
COULD BREAK APART.
WE HAVE TO KNOW THIS, TOO, NICOLLE, AND I'M
BEING VERY CAREFUL, THERE ARE A THOUSAND
TEXT MESSAGES THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVEN'T
SEEN THAT HE SAID WERE PRIVILEGED.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT MARK MEADOWS AND OTHERS
ARE FIGHTING THEIR CALL-DETAIL RECORDS.
WHY ARE THEY DOING THAT?
BECAUSE ONES AND ZEROES IS A TREMENDOUS WEAPON
AND WITH THAT KIND OF DATA IN THE HANDS
OF THE COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW, I
DON'T THINK THE AMERICAN PUBLIC
HAS SEEN ANYTHING YET.
>> OH, WOW!
I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT CASSIDY
HUTCHINSON WAS THE BRIDGE TO
THE FOLLOWING -- AND I 'M BEING
VERY CAREFUL HERE, NICOLLE -- A BRIDGE
TO THE FOLLOWING THEOREMS[???] BASED UPON THE OPERATIONAL PLANNING AND
THE DATA THAT THE COMMITTEE STILL HAS IN ITS BACK POCKET.
SO AGAIN, MARK MEADOWS IS THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER FOR THE COMMITTEE.
I THINK HE IS THE ROSETTA STONE. HE WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL.
AND I THINK IT PUTS HIS LEGAL TEAM IN A TREMENDOUSLY CHALLENGING POSITION.
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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

Postby admin » Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:51 am

Jordan Klepper Shows Trump Supporters January 6th Hearing Clips
Jun 23, 2022
The Daily Show with Trevor Noah

Jordan Klepper heads to a Mississippi rally to figure out if the January 6th hearings are enough to break the MAGA bubble surrounding Trump supporters. #DailyShow #Comedy



(upbeat music)
0:05
(heart beating)
0:06
- Last weekend, the Trump Freedom Tour,
0:08
comprised of Don, his son, and a caravan of folks
0:11
looking for book deals, headed to Mississippi.
0:13
And I was curious, who was shelling out
0:15
the 9 to $4,000 for a ticket to see the show.
0:19
Much of the country was watching the revelations
0:21
coming out of the January 6th hearings.
0:24
And surely, these politically engaged folks
0:26
were also tuned in.
0:28
Have you guys been watching the January 6th hearings?
0:30
- Um, no.
0:32
- Have you watched any of the January 6th hearings?
0:34
- Not really, I had a ___ and change of phones, but-
0:37
- You had to what?
0:39
- I changed phones.
0:40
- Are you watching them? -
No, sir.
0:41
- No, why not?
0:42
- Well, A, time.
0:43
- You don't have time to watch a two hour hearing?
0:46
- Yeah. - Not at all.
0:47
- How long are you here today?
0:48
- Until five.
0:49
- Until five, which is, you got here at?
0:51
- I got here at seven.
0:51
- Seven, which makes it 10 hours.
0:53
- Right.
0:54
- But the two hour hearing, who's got time for that shit?
0:56
(inquisitive music) Most were paying no attention,
0:58
and yet, there were some paying even less attention.
1:01
What about what happened on January 6th?
1:03
What do you think, what happened there?
1:06
- I don't really know what happened on January 6th.
1:09
- January 6th, the-
1:10
- The election day?
1:12
- No, election day was back in November.
1:14
Do you-
1:15
- I don't even know what-
1:15
- Do you know about January 6th?
1:16
- No.
- So when I say
1:17
January 6th, that means just-
1:19
- Nothing, I don't know.
1:20
- That's just a day to you.
1:21
- Yeah.
1:23
- Did you hear about the insurrection attempt
1:26
at the capitol?
1:27
- [Both] No.
1:28
(inquisitive music) - For almost everyone here,
1:30
insurrectioning was a non-issue.
1:32
It was the hearings themselves that were the problem.
1:36
- I think it's an abomination.
1:38
- [Interviewee] It's just McCarthyism, it's a witch trial.
1:40
- It's a witch hunt.
1:41
- Eh, it is.
1:42
It absolutely is.
- Yeah, it's like a mob
1:43
of people coming together with pitchforks.
1:45
- Yeah.
- Saying, we can't
1:46
have that.
- Yeah, with an agenda.
1:49
Here's the narrative we're pushing
1:50
and that's all we're pushing, is our narrative.
1:52
- A mob of people with an agenda pushing an agenda,
1:55
that can't stand in America.
1:57
- No.
1:58
- We should have an investigation about a mob of people.
2:01
- We should.
- Everybody would watch that.
2:02
- Yeah, absolutely.
- Yes.
2:03
- Nancy Pelosi.
2:05
She is very responsible for what went on then.
2:08
She planned it.
2:09
- She planned what happened?
2:10
- I believe so.
2:11
- Why did she plan to get attacked
2:13
by a mob of Trump supporters?
2:14
- Because she wanted to be able to blame it
2:16
on the Trump supporters
2:17
and have something bad to say about 'em.
2:18
- Shouldn't we investigate that?
2:20
- Yes.
2:21
- So, you must be watching the January 6th committee.
2:23
- (scoffing) No.
2:25
(inquisitive music)
- So what was it
2:26
people were watching?
2:26
- "2000 Mules" came out and it showed a lot of stuff.
2:30
- You've got "2000 Mules".
2:31
- And then this movie, "2000 Mules."
2:33
- "2000 Mules"?
2:34
- Yes.
- "2000 Mules" is a
2:36
documentary by Dinesh D'Souza,
2:38
claiming massive voter fraud based on some cell phone data
2:41
and surveillance footage that's been lauded by Trump,
2:44
laughed at by Bill Barr, discredited by fact-checkers
2:46
and banned from even right wing media
2:49
because of its unfounded claims.
2:51
- You notice, you turn on Fox News,
2:52
they have never mentioned that movie once.
2:55
Somebody's pulling the strings.
2:56
- Who do you think it is?
2:58
- It may be Obama.
2:59
- (laughing) You think Obama's
3:00
pulling the strings, Obama-
- Or it could be George Soros.
3:03
- You think it's possible that Fox News
3:05
doesn't mention "2000 Mules",
3:07
your theory, there's a giant conspiracy up on top
3:10
in which they don't do it.
3:11
Or the second theory is that movie's not credible.
3:14
- I know the movie's credible.
3:15
(inquisitive music)
- Maybe sharing
3:16
some of the committee's findings would break
3:18
through this MAGA bubble.
3:20
Rudy Giuliani was drunk the night of the election
3:22
and it was partially his idea to deny the election results.
3:27
Buy it?
3:27
- I haven't seen that, you're the first source
3:30
I've gotten on that.
3:31
- You haven't heard that at all?
3:32
- No.
- That Rudy was drunk
3:33
that night?
3:34
- It's an election night.
3:35
I wouldn't be surprised if anybody was, so.
3:37
- You trust a drunk Rudy Giuliani?
3:40
- I'm not saying
3:41
I trust a drunk Rudy Giuliani.
- The question is,
have you trusted yourself
3:45
or other individuals that you are with
3:47
under the influence of alcohol?
3:48
- I totally have.
3:49
- Then what's the difference?
3:50
- I am not the commander-in-chief in charge of
3:52
the United States of America.
- Doesn't matter.
3:53
- Well, I think that's an important detail.
3:55
(inquisitive music)
If no one was willing
3:56
to turn on the hearing, I decided to bring
3:58
the hearing to them.
4:00
I first shared testimony from Trump's
4:02
own acting attorney general,
4:03
dismissing Trump's claims of voter fraud.
4:06
- I told him that the stuff that his people were shoveling
4:08
out to the public was bullshit.
4:13
(Interviewee sighing)
4:18
- Like I said, you just can't be up 300,000 votes
4:24
and then lose.
- No, but that's
4:25
Trump's attorney general.
- I know.
4:26
- Does that sway you at all?
4:28
- He's turned on him, he's been paid,
4:30
been paid by somebody to shut his mouth.
4:31
- Everybody knows the election was fraud.
4:33
- No, no, he's saying the opposite.
4:35
He's saying-
- He's saying the opposite?
4:36
- Yeah, he's saying there wasn't fraud.
4:37
That that's bullshit.
- Wow, wow!
4:39
- Does it make you kind of change your perspective
4:41
and your assumptions?
4:42
- It does.
- Yeah, so you're not
4:43
gonna go in there right now?
4:44
- Oh yes, sir, I am.
4:45
- You are going in there right now
4:46
to see Donald Trump speak?
4:46
- Yes, sir.
- Okay, cool.
4:48
Well, good productive chat.
4:50
What's your response there?
4:52
- I think it's true.
4:53
- You think Bill Barr is right?
4:54
- Yeah.
- 'Cause he's talking about
4:56
the fact that the election
4:57
was stolen is bullshit.
- Yeah.
4:59
Yeah.
- Yeah, for sure.
5:00
- [Jordan] So he says it wasn't stolen.
5:02
- Oh, then no.
- No.
5:03
Oh, no.
- Yeah, it was stolen.
5:04
- [Jordan] You don't believe that?
5:06
- No.
- So who do you trust?
5:07
Like Trump, Trump's family?
5:09
- I trust Trump.
5:10
- You trust Ivanka?
5:11
- Yeah.
- Yeah, I do,
5:13
I think she's very smart and very intelligent.
5:16
- Let me show you, this is what she said.
5:17
- How did that affect your perspective about the election,
5:19
when Attorney General Barr made that statement?
5:22
- It affected my perspective.
5:24
I respect Attorney General Barr,
5:27
so I accepted what he was saying.
5:34
- How do I know that's not edited in any way?
5:38
- You don't believe she actually said that?
5:40
- Did she say it on Twitter?
5:42
- It don't even look like her.
5:44
- You don't think that-
5:46
- It could not be her, it might be one of those,
5:48
what, they got clones out there these days?
5:50
- You think that was a-
5:51
- (laughing) It might be a clone, yeah.
5:53
- It might be an Ivanka clone.
5:54
- (laughing) Yeah.
- Hot take, my friend.
5:56
(Interviewee laughing) It's almost like
5:58
you're confronted with it and your brain
5:59
just does somersaults to figure out,
6:01
there must be some other reason-
6:03
- She looks frightened.
6:04
- She does look scared,
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almost like she's-
- Yeah, she does.
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- Like she's been caught.
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What do you think?
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(Interviewee laughing)
- I'm confused.
6:13
- A little bit.
6:14
- So, Ivanka-
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- [Both Interviewees] His daughter.
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- His daughter says she accepts
6:19
what the attorney general said,
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which is that the election wasn't stolen.
6:22
That Trump lost.
6:26
- Well, is it a lie?
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- I mean, if you listen to these people, yeah.
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It's a big lie and I'm fearful you're gonna go inside there
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and he's gonna keep telling you that lie.
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- We should go.
- Yeah. (laughing)
6:39
I think we're ready to cut this off.
6:41
- [Jordan] Being confronted with an uncomfortable information
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isn't easy to swallow, but this crowd chooses to live
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by the immortal words of the barred Rudy Giuliani who said,
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"We've got lots of theories,
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we just don't have the evidence."
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Especially when it comes to Donald Trump.
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- I believe him and the military are running the country
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and that idiot that's up there is a puppet,
7:00
and Obama's in the basement
7:02
telling him what to do.
- Wait, that sounds so crazy,
7:04
it's probably not true.
7:05
- You probably don't even wanna ask me
7:06
what I think about 9/11, so. (laughing)
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- God, you got some theories for miles.
7:10
- Well, yeah, and I read a lot of stuff
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but I know probably not all of it is true,
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but enough of it is true to know
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that we need change in this country.
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- Absolutely.
- Yeah, a little bit
7:18
(patriotic music) of shit in the pool
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doesn't mean you can't swim in it.
7:20
- Right.
7:23
(upbeat music)
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