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Trump LANDS in NEW SCANDAL as His WAR on LA BACKFIRES
by Brian Kabateck and Shant Karnikian
Legal AF
Jul 5, 2025

Attorney's Brian Kabateck and Shant Karnikian expose the explosive federal class action lawsuit revealing how Trump's ICE agents have turned Los Angeles into a constitutional dead zone with 3,000 daily arrest quotas. They break down the shocking allegations of os US citizens detained at gunpoint for walking through parks, workers grabbed at bus stops without warrants, and a woman literally kidnapped while being dropped off at work.



Transcript

We got some breaking news here today out
of Los Angeles where we are. A massive
federal class action has been filed
against the Trump administration.
Christy Gnome, Cash Patel, a bunch of
different heads of different branches
under the Trump administration alleging
widescale militarization of immigration
agents and sweeping ICE raids and
revealing some of the deplorable
conditions in which some of these people
are being held. It alleges that Latino
citizens, day laborers, farm workers
were targeted without any warrant, no
explanation, no questions. I mean, it's
things that we've seen, but this is a
massive lawsuit, very well written, and
this might be a very important step in
trying to seek some justice for these
people. Uh, we're not talking about
racial profiling. We're talking about
fraud, government sponsored kidnappings
and broad daylight and shredding the
Bill of Rights here in Los Angeles. I'm
Sean Carne. It's Brian Kabet. This is
Civil Action on the Legal AF Network.
Brian, tell us a little bit more about
this lawsuit. Right. So, uh, I've got
the lawsuit sitting here in front of me
and I'm going to I'm going to read from
it. I don't think you have to look any
further than paragraph 197 of the of the
lawsuit. White House official Ton
Hullman, who's in charge of ICE, right,
recently maligned Los Angeles as a
sanctuary city and vowed, quote, "We're
going to send a whole boatload of
agents. We're going to swamp the city.
this operation is not going to end.
Every day in LA, we're going to enforce
immigration law. I don't care if they
like it or not. And then Christy Gnome,
when she's not Billy busy trying to kill
her dog, said, "We're going to stay here
and build our operations until we make
sure that we liberate liberate the city
of Los Angeles." And then she told ICE
agents, "Your performance will be judged
every day by how many arrests you, your
teammates, and your office are able to
effectuate. failure is not an option. So
this lawsuit, Sean, I think we should do
this is go through some of the examples
in the lawsuit of the types of conduct
that are occurring here in Los Angeles,
even as we speak. Yeah. And I think one
thing to lay out before we get into that
is that they had an arrest quota of
3,000 arrests per day. That is just
wild. You know, judging someone's job
performance, a law enforcement officials
job performance based on how many people
they arrest. So you let's let's talk
about some of these most egregious
examples that Brian referenced a minute
ago. You had one US citizen who was
detained and cuffed while walking
through a park in Santa Ana held
afterwards. No charges, nothing. Uh
that's an American citizen. That's
someone that has a United States
passport. A citizen of this country. Who
else? Brian, just rattle them off here.
You have a number of people who were
detained while they were waiting at a
bus stop um for work and uh the agents
pointed a taser at them, said stop or
I'll use it. They were pointed guns.
They had no warrant. This is very
important. They had no warrant. They had
no probable cause. They had no
reasonable suspicion. All of those are
required. They simply found three Latino
men sitting on a park bench waiting for
work and they declare that that's
reasonable suspicion enough to stop and
ask them for their papers. There are a
number of cases of US citizens who are
simply in the wrong place at the wrong
time being forced to identify
themselves. There's an example of
someone who's a dual citizen with Mexico
in the United States who's repeatedly
asked for their identification. and they
didn't believe it and still took them
into custody simply because these
people's crime is being brown. Yeah. You
have a young lady here right here in
downtown Los Angeles who was grabbed
while her mother was dropping her off at
work. Agents never asked for ID. Her
mother described it as what looked like
a kidnapping. U no questions, no not
even asking for identification. Just
kind of really wild stuff. And this is a
big serious lawsuit. I think you have,
you know, they talk about you've got
another example here, Jason Brian
Gavida. This is these are all public
records, so I'm not disclosing anything.
Uh on June 12th, he was um he was he
heard someone say immigration agents may
be at the premises. This is a US
citizen. He saw a federal agent step out
and they were carrying handguns and some
of them had military style rifles. They
pointed at him and said, "Stop right
there." Uh they threw him up against a
fence. They asked him, quote, "What
hospital were you born in? They asked
him the same questions. They pushed him
up against a metal gated fence um and
twisted his arm. They took the phone
from him that he had been on, repeatedly
asking him again what hospital he was
born in. He showed him his real ID.
That's the ID you're required to carry
now if you can get on an airplane, but
apparently that's not good enough for
ICE." This makes me incredibly angry.
This is a a wholesale violation of the
United States Constitution, asking
somebody for their papers. Yeah. One of
the other things that it reveals is this
facility right here in downtown LA
called the B18 facility, which is a
short-term holding cell area for for
that immigration officials use. But
they've been putting detainees there for
extended periods of time. It's
underground windowless. No access.
They're not giving people access to
lawyers. They're using sleep deprivation
and other pressure mechanisms to get
people to agree to self-deport. It's it
this is just really wild stuff. This is
just destroying the Constitution. Um and
and this is something that really needs
to be pursued. Well, let's go over again
what the rules are here so that people
clearly understand them. First of all,
um nobody can stop you on the street
just cuz they have to have at a minimum
at the highest standard is a warrant. uh
certainly a warrant to enter private
places, homes, businesses that aren't
open to the public. Um they probable
cause or a at least an articulable
reasonable suspicion. Yeah. And like
we've said before in Los Angeles with
almost 50% of the population Latino, it
is not an articulable reasonable
suspicion simply because you're Latino.
In fact, that is racial profiling.
That's exactly racial profiling. But you
know, the interesting thing about this,
Sean, is that I learned from reading
this lawsuit that um ICE and immigration
here in in Southern California have not
this is not their first trip to the
courthouse, and it's not been just under
the Trump administration. They have been
brought in before. There have been
orders entered against them um for their
behavior in the past. Uh some of those
what we call consent decrees have um
have ended. They dissolved before Trump
became president, but they're back to
the same thing that they've been been at
for a considerable amount of time. Yeah.
What what this lawsuit is asking for,
the sort of relief that it's seeking is
to stop the raids, declare these
practices unconstitutional,
enforce uh federal statutes, you know,
like, you know, and the Constitution,
which require reasonable suspicion,
lawful arrests, access to counsel,
access to someone's lawyer once they're
being detained, and establish some
degree of oversight and accountability
for for the Department of Homeland
Security and ICE uh when they come in
and operate here. I mean, I think this
is an important case. It's not just
about immigration. It's about whether
the Constitution still applies to
federal agents and who whoever decided
it doesn't. I mean, this is just wild.
The these these folks that are being
detained, whether they're documented or
undocumented, have the right to due
process. Due process isn't selective.
You don't get to pick due process
because someone is or isn't in this
country legally. And they're being
deprived of their right to counsel. They
have a right to counsel. The stories in
this lawsuit are are incredible,
including lawyers being um denied access
to their clients. And as you said, this
basement detention facility, um which is
supposed to be temporary, has become
more permanent with people sleeping on
the floors, uh inadequate health care,
inadequate food, inadequate um just
warmth, just basic human needs. Um, and
this is, you know, no surprise when, as
you said, Steven Miller, um, Trump's
number one henchman when it comes to,
uh, all things immigration, has said he
wants 3,000 arrests a day nationally.
Yeah. When they've made their intent
known that they're going to do it
whether people like it or not in Los
Angeles, this is this is just exactly
what they think their their mission is.
If if this is allowed to continue, you
know, it sets a precedent that that
racial profiling, warrantless raids,
just taking people, holding them without
access to a lawyer, without basic basic
necessities is acceptable. You know,
it's just another tool of the federal
government. I mean, it is very dangerous
and this can blow up in everyone's face.
This isn't just something that affects,
you know, one party or another. It
doesn't just affect immigrants or one
group of the population. This can if
this is okay now this can be warped into
so many other things that'll be used
against at political opponents. Where do
you draw the line? This can harm
left and right. This can this can harm
all parties, all levels, all class
levels, too. You know, so it's very
dangerous and this is a big lawsuit and
they're seek seeking a lot of important
relief that I think um is necessary. you
know, this clarity and and a ruling that
this is unconstitutional, I think is
necessary here. Absolutely. And you
know, my final thought on this is we're
we're sitting here with this big
beautiful bill having passed Congress.
And in that bill, and we'll cover this
in another episode, but in that bill,
there are bonuses,
signing bonuses, overtime bonuses,
like hundreds of millions of dollars for
ICE agents. Yeah. So, this
administration is not going to stop on
its own, and it's only the courts that
have the ability and the power to
enforce the Constitution. So, as usual,
Sean, I give you the last thought. I
really want to see how this is going to
shake out. You know, when you have
federal agents that can grab you off the
street, throw you in a van, put you in
an underground cell without a lawyer,
you know, your citizenship won't even
save you. So, that's a real problem.
That's that's authoritarian regime
Gestapo type of stuff. And that's
dangerous. I think what this lawsuit is
trying to fight for is to stop that kind
of behavior. And if the courts don't do
it here, the courts don't step in to do
that. The Constitution is not going to
be able to do that in and of itself. The
courts need to step in. And I hope the
right outcome comes out of this. And
we're going to keep following this
issue. We'll see how it shakes out. I
bet you there's going to be some
important things that happen in the
coming days with this lawsuit. So stay
tuned and and subscribe so you can see
the updates on this. I'm Sean Carren.
This Brian Ketch. This is civil action
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