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LIVE: Utah court to rule on whether to try suspect in alleged Kirk killing
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Streamed live 2 hours ago #CharlieKirk #TylerRobinson #Utah

A Utah judge hears testimony on whether there is sufficient evidence to try Tyler Robinson, the man accused of killing Charlie Kirk last year.

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Was Tyler Robinson's Timeline Faked? Baron Coleman EXPOSES The 33-Hour Problem
Baron Coleman Clips
Jul 10, 2026 #TylerRobinson #ErikaKirk #TPUSA

Recorded a few months back, this Baron Coleman breakdown lands right on top of what's happening in the Provo courtroom this week. As Tyler Robinson's preliminary hearing plays out, Baron walks through the defense's own court filing and the 6:25 p.m. Miranda timestamp he says signals Tyler Robinson was already in custody far earlier than the public "33-hour" narrative suggested. He lays out the Doug Terry request, the "closed for the night" tell, and why he believes the timeline was stretched.

Watching the hearing? This is the film study that saw the timeline fight coming.



Transcript

Chapter 1: They're counting on you having forgotten it
the grand timeline because I want to take you back.
It's been more than six months and you might have forgotten what it was like working through those first couple.
And I think they're counting on you having forgotten it.
When you bring in a criminal, a criminal who allegedly had confessed to his family, the very first thing you're going to do is Mirandize on the record.
And I think all of it builds a story of patent blatant dishonesty by law enforcement. They're lying to your face and they know it.
We had a listener, a viewer, still in my old radio mindset, everybody's A listener.
We had a viewer, we had a viewer who put us on to something and we were able to flesh it out, find all the citations, really
develop the timeline and come to an understanding that I think they've been lying to us from day one.
Obviously, if they took him out in a way that we didn't, You know, if it wasn't Tyler Robinson, they've been lying to us from day one.
But I think the lie is even more sinister, because today I want to drill down on the 33-hour lie.
And I'm going to say lie pretty confidently. It's still my opinion.
It's still allegedly, but it's a confidently educated opinion. 33-hour lie.
Chapter 2: The 33-hour lie
And why would they do such a lie? What is it about the would they put that in there? Well,
it's part of the frame-up job, ladies and gentlemen.
It's part of framing him as a patsy, and we're going to get into it. get into it. What we're going to cover tonight is dents. I hope you have your thinking caps on. Not your tinfoil hats, not your war hats.
Put those away. Your thinking caps.
I hope you have your thinking caps on because what we're going to cover today is a blow by blow, very detailed timeline. And it's going to take and I'll go back and forth.
I'm not going to leave you high and dry.
You're not going to get lost, but you're going to have to pay a little bit of attention. Here's how it came together.
We all instinctively knew on the night of September 10th, after Charlie Kirk had been taken down and there was nobody found, we
all instinctively knew, eventually they'll figure out who did this, right? They'll find somebody.
But if you go back in time and think about it, it was a long period of time. We were really sitting around.
There was a lot of standing around looking at things, tons of information flowing in, all kinds of people having different tips.
There was a lot of good information, a lot of really bad information.
And then the following day we woke up and thought, man, they still haven't found any money? That's weird. This guy may have gotten away with it.
I mean, you know, I hate to sound morbid, not to borrow a line from Erica Kirk, not to be morbid, but I mean, you wake up the next day and you're like, they still didn't find the guy.
They had an all-night manhunt and he's nowhere to be found. And there was a whole other day that took place. A whole day went by.
All of September 10th into the morning of September 11th, everybody wakes up like, seriously, they didn't catch anybody? Then all of September 11th takes place. And we have no feedback.
During September 11th, we get FBI. press conferences. We get the sheriff weighing in.
We've got, for some reason, Kash Patel wandering around, looking lost or looking multiple directions at once.
A lot going on September 11th, but we didn't hear any news of an arrest.
And it's not until we wake up the next day, the morning of September 12th.
Here on the God's time zone, central time zone, central daylight time zone. We all wake up and there's no news yet.
It's kind of that, oh man, they really gotten away with it.
And then about an hour later, we hear, hey, they're organizing a press conference. We think they caught the guy. Oh, okay.
And I think it was like 8 or 9 o'clock in the morning, central time.
They hold a press conference and that's where Governor Cox announces. We got him.
Woo! Finally, who is it? I can't wait to find out. Well, we'd gotten a few clues, right?
Because they had pictures they'd released and all this other kind of stuff.
But I'm just trying to set up sort of the grand timeline because I want to take you back.
It's been more than six months and you might have forgotten what it was like working through those first couple.
Chapter 3: How the grand timeline came together
And I think they're counting on you having forgotten it.
They've hidden information that leaked out that they didn't release. We have some of that.
They've changed stories and lied to us about some of the things that took place in that first , give or take. There have been lies, changed information.
We're going to cover And then there have been things that were hinted at, but were never really shown. And I think all of it builds a story.
And this is why I want to cover it. This is why it's important.
All of it builds a story of patent, blatant dishonesty by law enforcement. They're lying to your face and they know it.
And the key is, you don't know it. Most of you don't know it. I didn't even really realize it.
I had a gut instinct, but no one had ever just painted it in a picture.
No one had ever laid it out on the timeline and said, Hey, bud, look, they're lying to your face. , they're lying.
It's not necessarily an encoded message to some secret society. Maybe it is, but it's not necessarily. It doesn't have to be.
It might just be that they're covering up the frame job. It might be as simple as that.
In order to cover up the frame job, they had to stretch out the timeline a little bit. And I'm going to prove that. I'm going to show you tonight why I believe that. Because I think I'm right.
Because we are going to show, A, I'm 99.5% they're lying to you.
99.5% sure they're lying to you.
I leave open a small possibility that one of these facts is wrong. And it would have to be wrong. So that's the first thing.
I'm pretty sure they're lying to you.
But the second thing is why they're lying to you is to frame Tyler Robinson. Because everybody keeps coming to us.
They say, you got to prove it wasn't Tyler Robinson.
Well, it's hard for me to prove somebody didn't take a shot.
5 minutesI mean, if you're claiming a gunshot took place and you're not giving me any evidence from which to refute it, you're not letting me see the autopsy photos, you're not
letting me see the medical examiner's report, you're not letting me examine the body, it's hard for me to prove it wasn't a gunshot.
I can have all my theories about microphones and necklaces.
I can have all my theories about different angles that a shot might have come from.
But if you're not going to let me examine any of the facts, how am I going to prove you didn't take the shot? That's ludicrous. No courtroom would require that.
Chapter 4: What they hid, changed, and never showed
The courtroom doesn't require you to prove anything as the defendant. But I can prove they're lying about this.
I'm pretty confident they're lying about this stuff.
So where I want to open up, where I want to open up, this is a legal filing that was released here recently.
It is, I don't know the date on. What date is it? March 30th, I think.
Let me blow it up a little bit so we can all look together.
All right, this is your legal filing that starts us down the rabbit trail that I think demonstrates they lied right to your face.
This is the motion to exclude still photographers, TV cameras, and microphones from the courtroom, evidentiary hearing requested.
You will notice this is a long document. The conclusion is on page 181.
Ladies and gentlemen, there are entire religions based on scriptures that are not 181 pages long.
I mean, I don't want any way the other way to say it.
There are people who believe in gods or some sort and their scriptures are not 181 pages long. This a long document, very detailed.
You'll look here, look at all the different sections, capital letters. Oh goodness.
When you see capital letters, you're cooked. You're just absolutely cooked. Look at all these different authorities.
Look at all these got a Victoria's Secret catalog appearance.
You know, we got to turn to page 81 to somebody. No, we're not going to do that. We're not going to do it.
But you've got you've got all these different citations.
This is a long, detailed defense-produced document.
Tyler Robinson's team produced this document.
So we're going to slide all the way down, ladies and gentlemen, to page 78, to page 78.
And we're going to pick up, oh, I think we're going to slide to page 78. Oh, yeah, Page 78.
In short, this document's entire purpose is to say, we want to keep, we, the defense, we, Tyler Robinson, want to keep cameras out of the courtroom.
Now, I will admit, let me pull this down for a second.
I got to look you in the eye because I want you to see. I got to admit, I was concerned when I saw that.
When I saw the defense was taking this position, this was several weeks ago, I was a little concerned.
I thought, oh, are they trying to bury the guy? They're trying to hide it? They're in on it? I'm not so sure anymore. You should read this document. It's fairly compelling.
And what it paints is a picture of a criminal defendant, an accused criminal defendant who has a presumption of innocence.
whose guilt and suggested punishment of death has been proposed by the president of the United States, the vice president of the United States, the governor of the
Chapter 5: The 181-page motion to close the courtroom
state of Utah, the sheriff of the county in which he will be tried, the sheriff of his home county. This is not an ordinary case. This doesn't usually happen.
This doesn't usually happen. If you want to know.
What effort goes into framing a Patsy, you should read this document. It's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable how much effort has gone into framing this guy.
It quotes the TPUSA people, it quotes all kinds of people.
What other case have that many high-profile figures weighed in and said, he's guilty, he did it, and he should die?
Very few cases, very few cases. So I wanna just paint where we are now. That's what's happening.
What they're saying is, we wanna close the courtroom because every time any news breaks in this case, every time any news breaks in this case, The president, the vice president, the
governor, all the former co-employees, Erica Kirk, everybody runs out there and says, oh, look, here's a piece of evidence. He's guilty. He should fry.
We should shoot him. It's unbelievable. You should read this document. Until I read it, I thought, man, you're right. This is kind of compelling.
Maybe if I was the judge, I would close the courtroom. I don't know.
I don't want to close, but that's for my own selfish motives because I want to cover the case.
It would be difficult to cover the case if the courtroom is closed. We wouldn't be able to watch it. We wouldn't be able to get video clips.
We wouldn't be able to evaluate the way witnesses looked.
We wouldn't be able to evaluate their demeanor.
All the things the jury is allowed to evaluate by them.
The jury is allowed to evaluate demeanor, whether or not someone looks credible.
Those are all on the table, and you can't evaluate any of If the courtroom's closed, you might not even know what evidence is being introduced or what was said about it.
Depends on what reporters make it in and what they tell you.
And so I, from a selfish perspective, I want to watch the trial. I've invested a lot of time.
You have invested a lot of time watching, preparing, reading court cases, reading documents, looking over evidence.
I've spent looking at stupid maps of Utah, looking at what What the hell's in Panguitch, Utah? I mean, I've spent a day
looking over every square inch of Panguitch, Utah.
Something popped out of this motion that is jaw-dropping.
Something popped up, and I think they put the timestamps on purpose 'cause the timestamps were irrelevant.
I think they put the timestamps on purpose so that it would pop up on us.
This is a statement from the Seventh Circuit talking about whether or not to close a trial.
Disclosures concerning such matters are fraught with almost incurable prejudice.
They could infringe on a defendant's Fifth Amendment privilege.
In view of the natural tendency to draw adverse inference from the assertion of privilege and the careful attempts to avoid comment about such choice during trial, it
seems the court can at least require that the attorneys who publicly discuss such matters must prove that their comment was
not the type that poses a serious and imminent threat of interference with a fair trial. Here's what the point they're making.
So people made public pronouncements, including witnesses in this case.
So many people made public pronouncements that Tyler Robinson was not cooperating, that he was not answering questions, that he was whatever.
So many people made public comments on this that they're saying it's impossible to give a fair trial.
And if you let cameras in the courtroom and he takes the fifth, every headline is going to read Tyler Robinson refuses to testify. And I agree with him.
I think it would be devastating. I've tried cases. I've tried high-profile cases.
I tried a case with a guy who was accused of assaulting like 300 people. It made national news. It was a huge deal.
Here's what they're saying is, at some point in the trial, the prosecution's either gonna call Tyler or there's gonna be some, I don't know how they do it in Utah,
there's gonna be some sort of a hearing where Tyler has to state on the record, outside the presence of the jury, by the way, this happens outside the presence of the jury, but he's gonna have to state on
the record that he understands he has a constitutional right to defend himself, a constitutional right to speak and a constitutional right to not speak.
He can weigh in on the He can say that he wants to testify, or he can weigh in on the case and say he doesn't want to testify.
And afterwards, if he says he doesn't want to testify, oftentimes, most states require that there's some sort of a soliloquy.
And that soliloquy is between the judge directly with the defendant, and they ask, you understand what you're giving up here. You will never get another bite at the apple.
This is your only chance to testify at trial.
And if you pass, You can't later say now you want to testify. It's over. You can't testify on appeal. It's over.
You will never be able to speak about your guilt or innocence. Do you understand what you're giving up? Yes. Are you voluntarily giving it up? Yes. You know what voluntary means. No one's giving you any duress. Yes.
No one's got a gun against your head. No one's promised you anything. No.
They've not promised you your case will go better if you don't. No.
They go through and they make sure it's knowing and voluntary. And after that, they accept it.
I think the Tyler's defense lawyer's point is, if that sort of thing happened in front of the camera, they would fry him with it. He must be guilty.
Chapter 6: The Seventh Circuit prejudice warning
He's keeping his mouth shut. He doesn't want to testify. Here's where it gets interesting. We scroll to the next page.
The state will not be able to produce such proof in this case.
And then they reference a bait stamp document at page 20 indicates that on the evening of his arrest, On the evening of
his arrest, we now know he was arrested on September 11th.
He was arrested on September 11th, the day after the shooting. Now, we didn't find out about it until 7 a.m. the next morning. 8 a.m., depending on where you live. Maybe as late as 9 a.m.
if you're on the East Coast.
We didn't find out about it until the next morning, but there was stuff happening behind the scenes.
On the evening of his arrest, Tyler Robinson declined to be interviewed without having an attorney present.
He did not say. So there's a couple of points here.
Point one, Tyler Robinson did not say I am not going to cooperate he did not say I'm not going to cooperate and I'm going to read you the the the transcript in a second they have a
transcript of this encounter he never said I'm never going to speak to you guys instead he He said, I don't want to speak without a lawyer. And that's a key distinction.
One is, I will never talk to you, you dirty SOBs.
The other is, I really want to seek my constitutional right to have counsel advise me on what I should and shouldn't say.
Now, we all know they took that and said, Tyler's not cooperating. Tyler's not speaking. It made him look intransigent. It made him look like he's dug in.
It made it look like this is a hardened criminal who's out there, you know, firing high-powered rifle rounds at American treasures, national political
figures, high profile assassination and then running off and sulking. You can't get the truth out of me, copper. That's how it was presented.
But I want you to read what happened.
And more importantly, I want you to read when it happened. This is very important. Very, very important. What happened and when it happened.
So let's look at the what first. This is the police officer talking.
So, Tyler, before we begin, I'm just gonna read you your rights.
Mm-hmm. Okay, you have the right to remain silent.
If you've ever watched a cop show based in America, you've seen this. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in court.
You have the right to talk to a lawyer before advice, before we ask you any questions.
You have the right to have a lawyer with you during your questioning.
If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be appointed for you before any questioning begins.
And if you decide to answer questions, now you can stop at any time.
Okay? Um, so are you good? Are you good to proceed? I'd love to talk to you. Here's what he says. I'd like to speak with my legal counsel.
I'm hoping for a fellow in Utah named Doug Terry. Okay.
Told he's pretty good attorney here, but I think my folks are trying to get a hold of him, but I think his office is closed for the night. Closed for the night. Okay.
But until I've had the opportunity to speak with someone, I'd like to remain silent. Now, let's just talk about the what first.
Does this sound like the way it was reported? Is this consistent with what everyone reported, which is he's not cooperating. He's dug in.
He's remaining silent. No, not at all.
And that's the part the defense team chose to key in on. The content, the what. I'm going to get to the win in a second.
But the what? He chose to decline for the time being to say anything until he's had an opportunity to talk to a lawyer.
He even named a particular lawyer, a guy named Doug Terry. We'll look at him in a second. He was right. He's a pretty good lawyer.
That's who he wanted to talk to, and his parents were trying to get a hold of him. His office was closed for the night. I think that's a key fact. His office was closed for the night.
It lets us know what day this took place, but I'll get to that in a second, too. already know what day it took place. It took place on September 11th. I can almost guarantee it.
Chapter 7: He declined to be interviewed without an attorney
Now let's look at the win, because the win is going to play a huge, huge component in tonight's show. This 25 p.m.
There's no reason in the world the defense would have put the time in this document if they didn't want us to see it.
This was a message to people like this show, Candace Owens, and others who are looking into this matter saying, I don't think Tyler Robinson did it.
That timestamp right there is a loud clarion signal to us, to you, the audience.
They know that they can and can't say certain things publicly.
The defense can't come out and say, you realize he was Mirandized at 6.25 p.m. on the 11th.
You know what that does to the timeline, right? They can't say that.
One, it would be unbecoming of them.
But two, it goes right to the heart of defense lawyers shouldn't be trying the case in the public.
And there's potential ethical implications with that.
But they can put anything they want that they feel like is relevant for the judge to help make a decision into the pleading. I don't know why the time matters for them.
Whether he said this is totally plenty.
Chapter 8: The Miranda transcript: "closed for the night"
All you need to know is for the purpose we're trying to make, all he said was he wanted to talk to a lawyer first. We even had the bait stamp time, right?
Because there's a transcript here and it has the time on the video.
So on the video, it's the three minute and mark.
If you're just trying to identify where it is, that's plenty.
You don't need anything else. But they didn't choose to just include the text.
They didn't choose to just tell the judge if he wanted to double check the words where to go look. They chose to put the time of day.
Ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you, the defense is watching, and I'm glad they are. This was a key inclusion in this document.
This document, this inclusion in this document was a signal To shows like this, they're lying about Tyler Robinson. And I want to tell the defense, we hear you.
And I want to tell the prosecution, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
I want to tell the FBI and the governor, you should be ashamed of yourself.
I want to tell all the fed slop eaters over there just mowing down on fed slop. You should be ashamed of yourself.
You should reevaluate your position based on that timestamp alone. And tonight's show is going to prove it.
Tonight's show is going to prove it because I want to do a little math. I want to do a little math, guys. He was Mirandized at 6:25 p.m. I guarantee you that was the night of the 11th.
Why? Because why? Why would they wait to hire a lawyer until the evening of the following day? They announced at 7 a.m.
that he had been captured. He turned himself in the night before.
You're gonna turn your son in on a potential capital case, but you're gonna wait for some reason to call a lawyer after business hours the next day?
Guys, he was shot on a Wednesday.
That means September 11th, or he was taken down on a Wednesday, I don't wanna say shot. He was taken down on Wednesday. That means September 11th was a Thursday.
Chapter 9: The 6:25 p.m. signal — and why it matters
You're trying to hire a lawyer for your to save his life, to keep him from being executed by the state of Utah.
You are not gonna wait until Friday night to pick up the phone and start calling a lawyer and say, well, I guess they're close for the night. And he didn't say close for the weekend.
He said close for the night.
I'm telling you right now, this 625 is September 11th.
And I challenge, I dare someone to say otherwise. I dare someone to say otherwise.

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Erika Kirk Cult Launches DISGUSTING Campaign Against Tyler Robinson! Others ARE INVOLVED
Zach Costello
Streamed live on Jul 13, 2026

Erika Kirk led a manipulative media campaign last week against Tyler Robinson and whatever you think about his involvement, this was wrong and disgusting. We go through the details, especially when it is becoming very obvious he was not working alone that day on September 10th at UVU... True justice for Charlie Kirk means WHOLE justice.



Transcript

What's going on everybody? Thank you for joining me today for the Zack Costello Show. If you all could very quickly make
sure you hit that like button before we get started or as soon as you receive value, I'd really appreciate it. If you can double check and make sure that you
are subscribed, I would appreciate that as well. Even if you've already been subscribed, just go ahead and doublech
check. My goodness, you guys. this weekend ending on Friday. I mean, stuff hit the fan on Friday after we got done.
After the trial ended, excuse me, after the trial ended,
like I said, stuff hit the fan with then this coordinated planned media push all
against Tyler Robinson using this overwhelming mountain of evidence against Tyler Robinson that these that
the Erica Kirk cult, these Turning Point USA influencers all decided to flood the zone with and use the mainstream media
in order to push this agenda. It was nefarious. It was disgusting as my thumbnail suggests and as my title
suggests. And I stand by that. This isn't clickbait. What I'm about to take you through is this kind of whole media
manipulation campaign that took place on Friday over the weekend. And I hate to
say it, but led by Erica Kirk. And I'm going to show you how all of this played
out. We've got a good amount of stuff to get through today. We're going to go through this media manipulation
campaign. I've then got uh this video compilation that I put together. If you guys are following me on X, you might
have seen it already, but I have identified six different, I would say, clear moments that the individual
who is suspected in assassinating Charlie Kirk was working with vehicles throughout that day, pointing to what I
believe to be very strong evidence that this thing is just way bigger than just Tyler Robinson. Then we're going to get
into a clip from the Candace Owens and Shawn Ryan interview where she made some
important remarks or statements or claims about Lance Twigs. Then I'm going to take you through a video that I came across this
weekend thanks to Matt at Triggers, which I'm going to bring up here in a second.
he pointed my way which is a it's behavioral arts and it's a behavioral a behavioral psychologist I believe or a
behavioral expert who went through the Lance Twigs interview and identified some very important discrepancies or
just straight up dishonest moments throughout this Lance Twigs interview that we definitely need to go through.
All right. For those of you guys that don't know, what also came out over the weekend is I was on uh Matt with Trigger
Smart, he has a separate YouTube channel called Offscript with Matt. As you can see right here, um that top show right there on the left, my episode dropped.
It's a long kind of long about two hours um of him interviewing me. And Matt is a
phenomenal interviewer. He asked some incredible questions. Um, normally I don't like listening to myself in long
form interviews like this, but he actually made me interesting. I don't know. He just has very good questions.
We we cover Charlie Kirk. We cover Candace Owens, Erica Kirk, uh, the whole investigation and why it's important and
the search for the truth. And we get into a lot of my background, my upbringing, my family, and my faith. Uh,
it's good. It's good. So, if you haven't if if if you're a fan, if you're a subscriber and you are interested, go and check out that video with Matt uh at
Offscript and check out the other ones, too. Like I said, Matt is a great interviewer. Make sure you subscribe to that channel as more and more come out.
I know that he has plans to put more out there um as far as all of those people, all of these people that you that you
all love to follow and that you all love to listen to. So, in any case, that was really fun and um that was a really cool interview uh that Matt and I did and it
came out this weekend. So, if you're interested, go over there and check it out. All right, we're going to start with this post from our boy Andrew Cvette.
He posted this this morning. This morning today, I expect the liars to come out swinging harder and more
viciously than ever. They'll name call, mock, jeer, and see. They'll blame everyone but themselves for the absolute
thrashing their credibility took last week.
Man, that really makes me mad for reasons as you're about to see. They'll claim it's a coordinated campaign.
They'll claim it's all a paid op. That's projection. I expect attacks to ramp up against Turning Point USA because what
Charlie built remains highly effective and that drives them crazy as these lunatics try to narrative shift away
from their own failed predictions and fantasies.
They'll try to confuse people by casting doubt on a veritable avalanche of facts by focusing on some obscure detail,
contesting the public descriptions of the enhanced video, or trying to poke holes in a timeline, all without ever
addressing each piece of inconvenient for them. Court admitted evidence in an enormous and growing mosaic of damning evidence against Tyler Robinson.
They will do all of that without evidence or proof. Call them out on it every time. And there's a community note
brewing on Andrew Kvat's post saying that there is no conclusive evidence or clear video of Robinson taking a shot or
physical possession of a firearm. And it's extremely ironic for Andrew Kovette to be saying that, oh, everyone's going
to say it's a coordinated op. Everyone who is going against this narrative shredded their credibility. Well, in
fact, it's the opposite. Okay? In fact, it is the complete opposite.
What happened, if you guys are unaware, you're probably very aware, is that Erica Kirk had her attorney
emotionally appeal to the judge to put out what they refer to as enhanced or zoomed video of the individual walking
on the Losi Center roof with the timestamps of it saying 12:23 p.m. with the kind of blurry blob of that
individual getting in the prone position and then getting up after 12:23 and jumping off the roof. It was clearly
noted in the courtroom that there was no additional camera. There was no zoom feature on the camera that took the
footage of that individual on the Losi center roof. It was simply made clear in
court by the prosecution that this is simply a zoomedin video from a computer with different circles around it of the
same footage that we have already seen from the UVU surveillance. So, Benny Johnson coming out and saying that he
saw 4K footage of Tyler Robinson taking the shot or our boy Brandon Tatum here
saying that there's full HD of Tyler Robinson taking the shot. What he saw with an AI thumbnail of it all clear.
All of these MAGA influencers like Gunther Eagleman, Nick Sor, Jack Pobic,
all coming out and saying that this was a clear video of Tyler Robinson. It was like reliving Charlie Kirk's
assassination all over again. Well, guess what, guys? They're all getting community noted because this video does
not exist. This video does not exist. It was made clear in the courtroom this video does not exist. and they are exaggerating
and they are making up and the coordinated messaging is all the same. We saw this clear footage of Tyler
Robinson. Nobody else saw it except for those in the courtroom. But because we were there, we can tell you there's clear footage of Tyler Robinson taking a
shot. So now we need a speedy trial to put him to death. That's all the messaging. It's all the same. It's all coordinated and it's all false. They're
all being community noted for it. And thank God, thank God that two people,
two people willing to tell the truth were inside the courtroom and were able to
stand up against this false narrative that is being spread. And that's Brandy Sisani and Billy Webb.
And they have now been attacked for standing up for what they saw in the courtroom, saying, "Oh, you've never been there. You're liars.
Bry's got this wristband on, which as you guys can see right there, it's a pink wristband saying July 10th, 2026.
These were the wristbands that they handed out in the courtroom. You all know that I had an additional source inside the courtroom. She verified to
me, she gave me her wristband from a different day. It was a yellow one, but it's the exact same. It's the exact same
handwriting on it. It's the exact same thing that Brandy is showing us right here. Brandy was in that courtroom. And for those of you that are saying, "Oh,
well, anybody can fake a a wristband." Turning Point USA and their representatives also confirmed that
Brandy was in the courtroom. Brandy and Billy were on the Baron Coleman Real Baron podcast last night and they
confirmed everything that they saw, but they've been getting a very hard time for standing up against this false
campaign, this false influencer campaign headed by Erica Kirk. And why do I say it's headed by Erica Kirk?
I want to remind you guys what we saw last week from the Erica Kirk attorney, from the Kirk attorney with them pushing
the judge to try and play this video. I want to remind you with this. Take a watch.
Time is of the essence. Not because I don't want to hear what you have to say.
I I I understand, but there was a lot that was just said that's just not true.
Well, so let let me let me let me put this in the spot where we need to be. I And I understand that there's opinions,
but I have to keep this to the probable cause. I don't want this to go to a back and forth about issues that lie outside of probable
cause. And I realize statements are made and and as as the victim's representative attorney, you want to address it. So, I I I just I will hear
you, but I I we need to be brief. So, if you can be succinct, I I definitely want to hear what you have to say, your honor. I most always I am almost
always brief. I promise you. Uh the the family has not seen this video. It hasn't. It doesn't have access to the evidence the state has. The state is the
state and Mrs. Kirk and the family are have their representatives. That there's a completely distortion of of reality that was just put forth. Uh um and this
isn't about educating anybody anybody about anything. This is about allowing the family to see the evidence that's been gathered after a 10-month
investigation in which a father, a husband was assassinated. That's what this is about.
12 minutesSo, we ask you to please allow the family to view the video like the court has viewed in order to allow the family to process this moment.
Thank you. That be okay. So that is what is called emotional gaslighting of the judge. And
for those of you that are unaware, it was already confirmed that this video did not contribute anything additional to the evidence because it's already of
the UVU surveillance video just simply zoomed in with different marks added to it to direct people's attention to different spots.
It was not shown and the judge did not actually allow it to be submitted as evidence because it did not provide
anything additional to the evidence that had been submitted.
I'm going to explain to you then how all of this played out.
It's very hard to think that this was not a coordinated plan so that this media campaign could have been executed over the last couple days of this trial.
They knew that this additional footage or this manipulated or edited footage existed, okay? Because they talked about it in the courtroom. This exhibit 12.1.
I told you guys last week from my show on Friday that my source from inside the courtroom observed Erica Kirk on
multiple occasions directing her attorney to stand up and speak at certain points. With a head nod, with a
whisper, she is directing the attorney to speak on her behalf at certain times.
I also explained to you the emotional gaslighting behavior that Erica Kirk has
used inside the courtroom. And I understand this is this is delicate. This is delicate.
But what my source observed was Erica turning her head at multiple times so that the front and back could see her
face and then crying on Charlie's mother's shoulder. So you have on the one hand an individual who's emotional,
who's upset, who has runny mascara, who's using tissues constantly, who's turning her head so that the front and
back can see it, laying her head on Charlie's mother's shoulder crying.
At one point, it was observed that Erica actually stood up and and and looked at the judge while she was crying.
I believe Bae reported that last week.
And on the other hand, you have this kind of strategic directing of her attorney to get up at
certain points to make certain points in at certain points in the trial. Okay.
15 minutesHe then gets up and argues that this video must be must be shown for the family. It must be shown just inside the courtroom. Only inside the courtroom.
The judge, this occurred on Thursday.
This moment occurred on Thursday. And the judge said, "I'll think about it.
I'll let you know tomorrow." Which was Friday.
What happens then on Friday? What happens on Friday is we have Brandon Tatum, Graham Allen, Jack Pobic, who
were all there who were all there inside the courtroom. Who else gets invited only for Friday?
Benny Johnson. Benny Johnson gets invited, hand selected by Erica Kirk
to come in the courtroom on Friday as a family friend of course.
One of the other individuals that my source also identified, which was invited, hand selected by Erica Kirk, was this individual. And believe it or
not, cuz my source was like, "Hey, do you know who this is?" Because there was a lot of security around this individual. And the police when she arrived told us to put our phones away.
She didn't. She's not a rule follower.
This is that video of her of this individual walking in.
You guys know who that is right there.
That individual that we see right there with a lot of security and the police instructing to put phones away, put
cameras away as she was walking in is Katherine Limbaugh. That is the widow of
Rush Limbaugh who was invited by Erica Kirk to attend
this Wednesday hearing. She was there on Wednesday. Well, that didn't stop Katherine Limbaugh from
making an appearance on Fox News over the weekend after the trial ended as she also then contributed
to this whole Who is it?
We are going to say the evidence is completely overwhelming against Tyler Robinson.
This is her here on Fox News. I'm not going to play this entire clip. You guys already know what it already says. It's just Katherine Limbaugh talking about
how hard this was for Erica Kirk, how strong of a Christian Erica Kirk is, and how guilty Tyler Robinson is, and how the evidence is overwhelming, and how
this speediness should take place to execute Tyler Robinson because he is guilty and it's obvious. Okay. So, this
is a this is a very high-profile individual. So, you have Kathern Limbaugh, you have Benny Johnson, Brandon Tatum,
Jack Pobic, who were all there then saying that this over this evidence is just is so overwhelming against Tyler Robinson.
So, the way that all of this played out is that you have an emotional Erica Kirk directing her attorney at certain points.
The attorney was directed to argue that 12.1 should be showed just in the courtroom.
The judge agreed on Friday. Specific individuals from the media were invited by Erica Kirk to attend the trial on Friday.
The judge agreed. The judge fell for it in my opinion and played the video inside the courtroom.
And then they took that and ran with it as some crazy highquality 4K HD video clearly showing Tyler Robinson taking
the shot. All then saying that a speedy trial should be implemented so that Tyler Robinson, boom, lone wolf could receive the death penalty as soon as
19 minutespossible so we could have justice for Charlie Kirk. The mainstream media all picked it up.
Fox News, Gunther Eagleman, Nick Sortor, the whole gang, the whole gang all picked it up and ran with it.
And it was all a coordinated plan, media assault, campaign against Tyler Robinson.
Think what you want about Tyler Robinson's involvement. Think what you want about it.
I think he was involved. To to what extent, who else was involved? We're going to get to that here in a second.
Because in my opinion, the lone wolf narrative is bunk. It's done. It's dead.
And if you still believe in the lone wolf narrative, I question your discernment. I question your judgment.
20 minutesBut they're all out there pushing for this lonewolf narrative. Tyler Robinson needs needs to be convicted,
executed so that we can move on justice for Charlie Kirk.
Thank God Brandy Sisleani and Billy Webb were in the room so that we could know the actual truth about what was shown on that video screen. And now they're getting tons of heat being called liars.
their credibility, their character taken into question.
You guys don't remember Brandy Cesani was on the Zack Costello show the night before and had to leave to get back in line so she could get in the courtroom.
There is an overwhelming mountain of evidence that Brandy Sistani was in that courtroom.
Talk about an overwhelming mountain of evidence. That's where it exists.
But you guys, this dishonesty that has been displayed since Friday afternoon and then over the weekend
decreases my faith in humanity first and foremost, but really makes me even more suspicious. even more suspicious about
this being a higher level operation. And I don't even want to think that. I don't even
want to think that. But this coordinated media campaign against Tyler Robinson
to pin him as the lone wolf and the way that the dishonesty that just took place
by people I used to respect by people I used to freaking respect is disgusting. It's disgusting. Think
what you want about Tyler Robinson's involvement. This is where I was getting at.
It is innocent until proven guilty in America.
22 minutesAnd to dishonestly to dishonestly use a coordinated media campaign against this individual to push
for his death penalty is evil.
It's evil. There's no other way to say it.
And now I want to show you guys this.
because I put together this compilation video. Like, if we want real justice, if we want true justice for Charlie Kirk
and if Tyler Robinson was involved, we have to know who else was involved in this assassination of Charlie.
And it's becoming very clear to me that Tyler Robinson was certainly not working alone that day on September 10th at UVU.
I put together this compilation video of six different moments, six different moments where the
individual suspected in the Charlie Kirk assassination case is
working with or making contact with a vehicle
before, during, and after that 1223 event.
The first one is here. Okay, this is the individual in black that is about to enter the stairwell to walk down into the tunnel at UVU.
And I want you guys to pay attention to that white SUV that goes right behind him. We'll let this play. I give you the arrow there.
The individual then turns around, looks at the SUV as it drives away.
Another gray SUV pulls up right here while he waits and perhaps is on his phone. He sticks
24 minuteshis phone in his pocket and then continues down. What's important to note about this specific video, which is the
actual evidence that was submitted by the prosecution, you guys can see this here. It's edited and clipped. A minute 16 is missing from
this. Shout out to Alli Top Files for observing this here. She was the first one to report it. But you see that white
SUV driving away. You see the individual looking at it and then pop out of existence because the video is clipped and edited.
And then the individual turns around.
That gray SUV is there driving a little slow. The individual walks down the stairs into the tunnel.
Okay, now that's number one. Number two, this individual continues down the tunnel,
comes by this pillar, emerges on the left side of the pillar here,
and you see as he then turns to walk up the stairs, a vehicle approaches from behind. see
the arrow? The individual then turns around to make eye contact with that vehicle. I've had multiple people
observe that when you zoom in on this, the wheels look very similar to the wheels on the Dodge Challenger.
That's number two. And then he continues up these stairs. Okay, number three.
Number three, and this is the one that I just find most suspicious. You have the white SUV pulling into the parking lot.
And to give you guys context, this is the video. This is the video that we've been arguing about for the length of the
show. This is the video we've been arguing about all weekend. This is the video of the individual on the roof from this angle, from this camera. It's
zoomed in on a computer. So, in that top right, top left corner, excuse me, that is the individual getting to the prone position, laying in the prone position.
1223 and s or in s maybe I think. Anyway, after the event
occurs at Charlie 1223 and some change, he then gets up and runs off the Losi center roof. Okay, this is that video. This is the video.
All they did was zoom in and add some add some red circles like I added red arrows into into this one. Okay, but
watch this white SUV pulls in. This white SUV pulls in the parking lot. And I'm just going to let the time go by so you guys can see what's happening here.
It stops. The car stops. And then time ticks by to .
Seconds go by and then watch what happens here. Watch what happens.
alleged shot is taken. The individual then runs across the Losi center roof.
As soon as the individual gets to the corner and drops down, the car moves.
As soon as the individual gets to the corner and drops off the low sea center roof, the car moves.
The white SUV then pulls around the parking lot, pulls up next to the individual that is then walking through the grass.
Watch what happens here as this white SUV is leaving the parking lot. It doesn't even really look at these other cars that are also trying to exit. It literally just kind of barges through.
You in a hurry? Where's the fire, bro?
Where's the fire? Watch what happens here.
That other car's there first. I like I don't know right away. The other car has to stop and the other car's like, "Nope, I'm going."
I I'm I'm a kind of an aggressive driver, but that to me was rude. Rude.
Pulled out right in front of him.
All right, that's number three. Number four. Number four, you hear a lot of the cell phone data that's been coming out
today as a part of the search warrant evidence. People are out there talking about the cell phone data being released. Well, they pulled allegedly
Tyler Robinson's cell phone data from this shopping center parking lot. And this was the footage that was captured
or obtained or or published, excuse me, by Ryan Ma in October of 2025.
This shows the Dodge Challenger, entering the parking lot, sitting here.
29 minutesAnd then I have the second arrow on this other white SUV, not the same SUV as was in the UVU Losi Center parking lot.
Watch what happens here. Dodge Challenger pulls in. This is This is cell phone data that was that was
allegedly pulled from uh from Tyler Robinson's cell phone from this parking lot. This SUV pulls out, takes the left turn.
Dodge Challenger still sits there. SUV comes back and they drive off together.
I mean, what kind of route What kind of route are you are you using to exit the parking lot doing that?
Seems a little weird, does it not? Okay, that's interaction number four.
Interaction number five, let's keep it on this clip. I believe that I do. I think I rewind it here. Uh,
I thought I cut myself out of there. But in any case, I I rewind it back here because I also want to point your
attention to this gray SUV that enters the parking lot as well. The gray SUV
enters the parking lot. This white car swings back around. That gray SUV stops, stops right there and then moves. And
then the other two cars move out right behind each other. That gray SUV, I've noticed looks an awful lot like
this SUV. This gray SUV that pulls up alongside the individual, walking through the neighborhoods here prior to
arriving at the low sea center tunnel, stairwell roof. This is him walking through the neighborhood prior to
this gray SUV. So he stops here by this light pole. He messes around with his phone for a little bit. This gray SUV pulls up to the side of him close and then merges back into the lanes here.
Okay, there it is again. Pulls up to the side of him and then merges into the lanes.
That's example number five of this individual interacting with another vehicle prior to
that 1223 event. Now, this is the Ring doorbell footage, the now famous Noble Ring doorbell footage.
And why did I include this? Well, I included this because this was submitted as evidence and it was made clear in the courtroom
when Kathy Netor questioned David Hull from Utah Bureau of Investigation
as to what the eyewitness to this video claimed was who the eyewitness of this video claimed was driving the car and
who else was in the car that that the prosecution is saying is Tyler Robinson's Dodge Challenger. Okay, I
want to show you two important parts of this video.
So, this is the alleged Dodge Challenger approaching the neighborhoods. And this would have been after the assassination,
the night of when Tyler Robinson was allegedly looking for his rifle. He was in this neighborhood to the north of
campus. This is Ring doorbell footage from the Noble household of the Dodge Challenger coming to a stop.
The homeowner was interviewed here and asked and and and she made clear in her testimony that there was a bald man
driving the car and there were three people in the car.
So, I'm including this because that also speaks to this being bigger and more than just Tyler Robinson.
We have this individual interacting with other cars on multiple occasions throughout the day.
And then we have the Dodge Challenger allegedly driven by a bald man, not to be confused with Blake Nef,
and also having three other individuals in the car. Now, I want to show you guys just something that is stupid stupid about this piece of evidence.
Watch what happens here. There are two edits in this. Why? Why would these two evidence Why would these two clips to these two edits be here in this video?
Watch this car sitting there.
Car sitting there. Ring doorbell footage.
It clips. It clips. It goes dark and then it picks back up. And then watch what happens.
Okay. Do you guys know what that is? You saw the flash on the car. Do you know what that is? The car comes up to a stop, the video goes dark, the video
cuts back in, and then you see the flash flash. What do you guys think that is?
That is the car locking.
That's the car locking. The individual would have left the vehicle, started walking away, hit the lock
button on the keys and then you see the flash flash.
Why is it clipped when the individual would have left the car?
And now, now watch again. Now watch again. Watch for the second clip.
clipped and then what? Car turns on and drives away.
So, what we have there are two edits in this piece of evidence that was submitted. And the two evidence includes the part where the driver leaves the car
and then when the driver re-enters the car. Am I getting that right? Am I getting that right?
So, what I just showed you guys were six different six different places
where said individual who was suspected in the Charlie Kirk assassination was interacting with
vehicles throughout the day and also being reported that other individuals were in the were in the car that the prosecution is saying was Tyler
Robinson's. And then we have clipped out footage of when that individual would have left the car who the homeowner says was bald.
I think that's pretty solid. That's a pretty solid argument for this being bigger than just Tyler Robinson. So now
loop this back into the original, not the original, the initial argument that we were making from the outset of today's show.
We're trying to facilitate the death penalty, the speedy trial of an individual who might have been
involved in this, but it it is, I'm going to say, clearly looks like there were other people involved in it as well.
It is not justice for Charlie Kirk to have Tyler Robinson convicted and receiving the death penalty as the lone
wolf if other people were involved in this.
That's not true justice for Charlie Kirk. True justice for Charlie Kirk is that everybody involved is held accountable
and justicees serve to everybody that was involved in this assassination of Charlie Kirk. And I don't understand why
that's controversial. I don't understand why Erica Kirk, Andrew Kovvette, and the whole cult of Erica Kirk and Turning
Point USA are not also fighting for this as well.
37 minutesWhy the propaganda campaign against this lone wolf Tyler Robinson?
And what are they going off of? What are they going off of for this lone wolf narrative? There is one source. There is one source for this lone wolf narrative.
Just one. And it's the testimony of Lance Twigs.
And it's the text messages to Lance Twigs.
Lance Twigs is the source of the lone wolf narrative.
I personally think it's stupid to hinge your entire argument or perspective on this Charlie Kirk assassination on the
testimony of well a crazy person, a psychopath with a very questionable mental health history,
drug abuse history of Lance Twigs.
38 minutesYou know, it's funny. all these so-called conservatives who constantly are talking about the
mental derangement of you would say transgender individuals are now taking this one as gospel. This
is an individual who doesn't even know if he's a boy or a girl, but he's 90 something% sure that that's
Tyler Robinson in the tunnel and that Tyler Robinson was the lone wolf in the Charlie Kirk assassination case.
Man, we're living in backwards world, everybody. We are living in backwards world.
For the final segment of this show, we're going to have Candace Owens lead us off here with what she said about Lance Twigs on the Sha Ryan Show. Let's
take a listen to the principal, as Baron Coleman refers to her as. Take a listen.
Twigs I twigs his family and they think he's involved
and they don't understand why the police just sat him down for a few hours and let him go and they said he has he's
involved in a lot of bad stuff. Um they he lived with them for a little bit that he's into you know weird categories of
pornography as well. And so they were shocked that the police just had never had any interest in Lance Twigs and he
is crucial to the story that they're trying to tell as the roommate. Uh if you're dating, if they are in a gay relationship and you're dating him, you would have access to his guns. You would
have access to you could easily set up somebody that you're dating. And that's what my my gut tells me is Lance
Twigs was a federal asset. Is a federal asset. Okay.
Very good take by Candace Owens there.
And now I want to take you guys into this very good breakdown from
behavior arts which is the YouTube channel.
He very much knows behavioral psychology. He is an individual who does these different breakdowns based on
people's behavioral patterns, how they're behaving when they're giving testimony. That's what he applies to to
Lance Twigs here. He did a I believe about like a 50inute show on the trial.
He looked at the judge. He looked at Lance Twigs. He looked at Tyler Robinson. It's very good. It's a very good breakdown. It's a very good video.
Behavior Arts is the YouTube channel. go and check it out if you have an hour or so. It's a good It's a good
video. It's good. But what I'm going to cover here is this Lance is this section of the Lance Twigs testimony.
What he describes here are two critical critical points in the Lance
Twigs testimony where it is very clear that Lance Twigs contradicts himself and is being dishonest.
We covered some of Lance Twig's dishonesty last week as it relates to Tyler Robinson never talking about
politics. Lance Twig not not contributing to politics even though his political ramblings are well documented on Reddit.
What Behavior Arts gets into here are two specific moments where Lance Twigs was dishonest. And here is the first one
and then we'll go from there. Take a listen. Acted erratically. Um, was he pacing? Was he just sitting down relaxing?
No, he was he was uh walking around a lot. And that's within the home. Mhm.
Um, and did he talk about what he had done?
Uh, didn't go into detail. He just I just asked him in person if what he said was true the night before and he said it was.
I started crying a little bit and said he wishes he hadn't done it and then kept going around and just
doing stuff I think to keep himself busier.
Okay, so just to give you guys a little bit of context, this is Lance Twigs talking about his interactions with Tyler Robinson after he got home. And
this is where Behavior Arts considers this really problematic.
I also do want to note that it's this part of the testimony when Lance Twig says that Tyler told me
that he wish he didn't do it. That is when Tyler Robinson's mother, according to Brandy and Teresa Bruce and Billy
Webb, that is the moment that Tyler Robinson's mother got most emotional during this testimony. I think that's interesting.
43 minutesBut anyway, this is the moment when Lance Twigs is talking about his interaction with Tyler once he got home from UVU. Take a listen.
Distracted or something and then eventually said that he would talk to his parents or turn himself over.
Okay. And uh when you left, was that how you went you left understanding that he was going to turn himself in or go to his parents house?
Yeah. and I didn't really want to be at our apartment while any of that was happening regardless of what went down.
Okay, so in this one for me, there was a little red flag that went bing in my head and it relates back to the text exchange that was released between Tyler
and Lance. And I have a video on the channel where we look at those texts and I give my opinion on it and I'll leave a link in the description if you guys want to check it out. But in summary, really
quick summary, there's something about it that never really sat easy with me with that text exchange. I'm not one of those people who thinks like it's this whole plot and the whole thing is fake
and none of it makes sense. But there's just a few things about it that in the wording didn't quite add up to me. And here again, something doesn't make sense
because Lance is saying here that Tyler was walking around a lot and when he's asked did he talk about what happened?
He's saying he didn't go into detail.
So, what that means is that this guy Tyler, who allegedly did this horrible thing the day before, was at their house
in the comfort of their own home and he didn't go into detail, but the day before when he actually did the crime and he was kind of fleeing the scene, he
texted paragraphs and paragraphs of detail. That's inconsistent. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for someone who on the day of the act that he
committed in that high stress moment to be texting paragraphs and paragraphs of details. Seriously, go back and look at those texts. It's like a novel. But then
on the next day, in the comfort of his own home with the person that he was texting, he doesn't go into details.
Sorry, that doesn't describe the same character. It also doesn't make a whole lot of sense that he didn't have a million questions. I mean, put aside the fact that they're roommates, put aside
the fact that they have romantic history, but even just for his own safety, you would think that he would be extremely concerned. So it's hard to believe that there wasn't a very big
conversation here knowing what we know about these two individuals.
Yeah. So very very good observation there. And one of the main themes of
what behavior arts identified with regard to all of this is that Lance Twigs is clearly trying to distance himself from Tyler Robinson even to the point of being dishonest.
Are we actually supposed to believe that Tyler Robinson arrived home after spilling all of this to Lance? After
spilling all of the details to Lance, even leaving a note confessing all of these details that Tyler Robinson was
telling Lance Twigs allegedly the night before they get home the next day and they're like, "Ah, I'm not really going to talk about it.
He was just busy doing some stuff." Doing some stuff. Yeah. Yeah, Lance.
Lance says he was doing some stuff.
That's my Lance Twigs voice, which is, as much as it makes me feel terrible, is deeper than my own. Gosh, hearing Lance
Twigs for the first time made me feel less manly. His voice is deeper than mine. I got I got to deepen up my voice in comparison to Lance Twigs.
But such a good observation. He spilled all of these details the night before.
All of these details were spilled the night before. And then he gets home the next day and there's no details. He didn't really go in anything. He was just doing some stuff to keep himself busy.
My goodness.
My goodness. But this is the this is the part of the behavior arts video where he goes into this next section with Lance Twigs that when I was listening to this,
I was just like, "Oh my gosh." Absolutely. Absolutely. Let's take a listen to this next part now where he breaks down this next part of the Lance Twigs video.
Before he came home, had you seen the press the press releases um any of the media on on this?
I'd seen one Instagram like link a friend of mine had sent in our group chat,
but I hadn't really looked into it at all.
And uh had you seen the images that were released of the suspect?
Uh I did the next day. I don't think I saw any on the tech.
Liar. Freaking liar. And that's what he gets into here. What a liar.
Yeah, I'm not really buying that exactly. And it's not entirely behaviorally. It's a little bit behaviorally, but also just purely logically. So, he says that in a chat.
He was sent a link, but he didn't really look into it at all. And immediately after that, we see that look down, but it's not alone. We also see a quick flutter with the eyes like this. And this is very consistent with processing.
Research has shown that universally when we process things, when we put things into memory or retrieve things from memory, we see these little eye flutters
or a very increased blink rate. So, it obviously doesn't always mean deception.
Nothing does. There isn't a single gesture on this planet that happens exclusively in deception. But there are behaviors that we look at for stress or
increased cognitive load that might indicate a higher probability of deception. And I flutter is one of them.
Now, we don't have a massive cluster here. It's not like after he says that we see him close up and look away and flutter and hesitate. It's just this
downwards look which is part of his baseline. It's a little more held than usual with this flutter like this. But just purely logically, it doesn't make
sense to me that he didn't look more into this or read that article or ask more questions or get more curious. I mean, let's think about this logically.
Is there anybody right now watching this video that if you had a roommate and that roommate went out and all of a sudden you got all these weird texts from them and a friend of yours sent a
link to a group chat that said, "Hey, uh, your your buddy, your roommate may have done this thing." Is there anybody watching this video that wouldn't drop
everything you're doing to open that link, read it, go online, look what else is going on? What's happening on X? What's happening on Instagram, Tik Tok?
What's What is going on here? Wouldn't you want to find out everything you can?
I mean, there's a good chance that this guy who committed this act is about to come to where you live. Are they having some kind of psychotic episode? What's going on? So, is there really anybody
who would just not really look into it at all?
If the person that you were dating that you were saying, "I love you to sent you a message that they had just
done this, that they were involved in this." you get text messages from their friends with links saying that, "Hey, I
think this might be the person." You're not going to open that. You're not going to look at it. You're not going to turn on the news
to be like, "What the heck is going on here?" You're just be like, "Oh, yeah.
No, I I didn't look at it. I just I just went to sleep. I just went to sleep." And then the next day when I saw him, yeah, we didn't really talk about anything. Nah.
Nah, wasn't really that. I wasn't really that interested. I just wanted to kind of say what's up and then get out of there and go home.
He makes such a great point in that if an individual who was just who just
basically assassinated someone and told you that
was like, "Hey, I'm coming home." You're just like, "Uh, no thanks. No. Um I'm I'm I'm actually I'm out. I'm out. Um
yeah, they left me a note here. I'm calling the cops and I'm out. This person says that they did it.
They're they're said he said they're coming home tonight. He left me this note.
No, but what Lance did, he didn't really look at anything. He saw that note on the picture, snapped a picture of it, and then was just like, "Ah, I'm going
to get some sleep." And then the next morning it's like, "Yeah, um, whatever.
Hey, what's up, man? You keep yourself busy. I'm I'm I'm going to head out for the day. I'll talk to you later." BS. It is complete BS.
and what you guys just saw. So everything that we just went over here today from this coordinated campaign to pin this lone wolf narrative on Tyler
Robinson, the overwhelming mountain of evidence against Tyler Robinson as the lone wolf, which hinges on
Lance Twigs's testimony where he is dishonest throughout.
It's a dishonest testimony throughout.
That is what the lone wolf narrative hinges upon. And then you've got clear I
just laid out six of them. Clear circum instances where you have the individual that was
involved in the Charlie Kirk assassination, the suspect coordinating and working with different cars throughout the day.
How can you believe the lone wolf narrative? How can you trust Lance Twigs?
That is the foundation that they're basing all of this on and then turning around and calling anybody that questions it evil, deluded.
You go back to that Andrew Kvette, that initial Andrew Corvette post and and it just makes me even more mad to
consider the things that he says here today. I expect the liars to come out
swinging harder and more viciously than ever.
Who's the liar? Who's the liar? And who's coming out swinging more viciously than ever? They'll they'll they'll name call, mock, jer.
Oh, that's funny because what I see is everybody on the in the Erica Kirk
Turning Point USA. Tyler Robinson is the lone wolf narrative mountain of evidence cult coming out calling everybody else
[ __ ] As much as I hate to use that word, but that's the word they're using.
evil, [ __ ] deluded.
They'll blame everyone but themselves for their absolute thrashing of their credibility that took place last week. Wow.
Wow, dude. They'll claim it's a coordinated campaign. I think I just proved that it was. They'll claim it's a paid op. I just proved that it was. It's projection.
I expect the tax to ramp up against Turning Point USA because Charlie built something that's highly effective.
Because we're jealous, you guys. Because you're jealous.
as these crazy lunatics or as these luna lunatics try to narrative shift away from their failed predictions and fantasies.
They'll try to come up with reasons as to why to cast doubt on the verifiable
avalanche veritable avalanche of facts.
against the enormous evidence.
The court admitted evidence in an enormous and growing mosaic of damning evidence against Tyler Robinson.
You go back and read this and and it just it it it just makes you so angry.
It just makes you so angry. All right, we're going to finish up with some comments today.

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The Cars Following "The Tylers" Around Orem - Ep 144
Baron Coleman
Streamed live 20 hours ago

When The Tylers showed up on camera all over Orem, there frequently seemed to be cars interacting with each Tyler. We take a look.

We also review Lance Twiggs's "testimony" in light of what we've learned.



Transcript

Sorry about that. First day at the office. Um guys, welcome in. Welcome in.
Welcome in. We uh we're glad to have the principal back presiding over uh the evening's festivities. Now, we are relegated to afterparty status. Sorry
we're so late tonight. I do apologize. I know that makes it hard on some people who prefer to go a little earlier. Um but uh but I was not able to get uh get
ready any sooner than this. Um [clears throat] I think I predicted it, ladies and gentlemen. Did anyone see the nails? Did anyone see the nails? Do I
need to pull up the nails? I can do that. If you guys don't believe me, I can pull up the nails.
They were as predicted. Yes, that's right. That's right. Uh, actually, hold on. Let me find them. You guys don't believe me. I should have had this done before I started. Yes. I'll just let you
guys trust me. They were maroon. Um, always sending signals. Always sending coded signals is the principle. Always
sending coded signals. Um, guys, we've got a lot lined up for you tonight. I hope you are buckled in. Um, we're going to go over some uh uh Oh. Oh, use this
video for the nails. We've got I've got backup for nail footage. Uh, we're going to go over some of the evidence rundown, some of the cars
that Tyler seemed to be tracked by in a lot of those videos. I know neither the prosecution nor the defense made a big deal out of it, but who were those
people and why were they stopped for inordinate periods of time? And do we now have an answer why we were not able to see the original footage? You
remember we kept asking, you know, uh uh you guys showed us the video of the guy running off the roof. Why didn't you just back it up like s so we could see the, you know, what you guys
alleged as the gunshot? Well, I think for two reasons. One reason is that they did not want us to notice there was no
gunshot visible. I think it's plain and simple. Uh, but the second reason is there was a car in the parking lot doing something very unusual and it seemed to
be timed with the figure on the roof. We will look at that in depth today. Zack Costello pointed this out on his fine program today and um and uh or
yesterday. When was it? Whenever he pointed it out. Um and no, it was today.
It was today. And uh and I want to rip it right out of his program and show it to you. It was phenomenal. It was great investigative work and something that had gotten past your humble host. This
is why we crowdsource stuff. This is why we have a decentralized investigation into who killed Charlie Kirk, how and why. So, we're going to take a look at that um a little bit.
We're going to dive into the Lance Twig's testimony now that a few days have passed and we've had an opportunity to really digest it, really dig into it, see some of the other things, make some
connections, do a little research. Now, we have some firepower to bring to the analysis of Lance Twig's video testimony. We will go through it in
detail. Um, and uh I have a video. I'm going to start here real quick. I I know this is unusual way to start the program, but this is a a plea for help.
This is a plea for help. Um I don't know where Charlie Kirk is going in this video. It appears to me to be a
staircase that leads to the Hall of Flags. In all of the coverage of this, I
had not heard that Charlie Kirk went into the Hall of Flags. You'll see Dan Flood slip on the stairs here. Right.
Down goes Dan. Down goes Flood. Uh, but they're walking up these stairs and they're walking into what appears to me to be the Hall of Flags.
I was not aware that Charlie Kirk had gone indoors um during his um during his
trip to UVU. I thought he stayed outside the whole time. If he went indoors, I want to know what they did in there.
They just use the can or did they meet with somebody? How long were they in there? If anybody can fill me in on that, by all means, please [email protected].
Um, I think it could potentially become a relatively interesting development because if we're talking about something taking place underneath Charlie's shirt,
was anything affixed to Charlie in that building? Because we know it couldn't have been done outside. Did they say, "Hey, we're trying something new here,
Charlie. We need you to wear this. Hey, trade this out. We need you to put this on instead." I I'm just very curious what took place in there. I don't know
how we would find out. I think unless you were in the room with him, you might not know, but if anybody has heard anything, anybody has any not just
speculation. I mean, if it's rooted in something, please let me know. If you're just guessing, I I can sit here and guess all day. You know, my guess is as good as yours, your guess is as good as
mine. It's not very valuable. Um, [clears throat] and so we'll get to we'll get to all that. We're going to get to all that and more. Um, and yes, I know it's late. Yes, I know it's late,
but I apologize. But because it's late, I will probably move a little swifter through the super chats towards the end of the night because I don't want to be up till 1 or two in the morning.
[laughter]
God's time. I don't want to be up too late. So, um, just understand if you send a super chat, I will read it, but I may not put it up and react to it on the
screen. Um, if, uh, depending on how long the show goes and how many come in and all that. So, just bear with me, be patient. We will we will do our best to
get to as many as humanly possible. Um but uh but understand that that I'm going to have to call it quits at some point uh just for that. Now um your
humble your humble principal has asked for our help and we are here to answer the bell.
This is what happened on her program. I got to pull it up. This is what happened on her program this afternoon and we
will answer the bell here. First I think you can see the maroon nails in this footage. It is very important for us to establish.
[laughter]
I was hoping for a whole maroon outfit, but I will take maroon nails. Those are maroon.
Those are maroon. Okay, back to the content. I apologize, madam principal.
It won't happen againish because he is speaking about the kines's. And I think I can, by the way, I can back channel um because I talked about the kines's on
the show and I can go back to that source. But if you have information related to when the canines were brought on to the scene, please email us
[email protected]. That will allow us to get a timestamp in there because he says he's observing the canines going back and forth. And I this could be exculpatory evidence.
The penguish state.
So she wants to know when the canines came onto the scene. Well, lucky for her, she has access to a daisy because I have
a daisy and I'm going to give her the answer here in just a second because Daisy alerted me that she had this in her notes. So, I'm going to show when the canines re uh arrived on the scene.
This is the piece of footage here that she found. The time stamp is 16:29 on this, but uh on the Oh, okay. I don't
need that. Um, this is 12:33 p.m. Mountain time. It's a very short
piece of audio. Just a few seconds of audio here. 12:33 p.m. Mountain time.
1J 129. I've got all county K9 headed that way. Where do you need us?
So, at 12:33 Mountain Time, you had all Kines headed
to the scene. Where do you need us? Um, we now have confirmation with somebody
from the uh Utah County government of when the canines arrived. So, I will show you this email here. This is a uh an email from a little public request.
Uh, I will see if this handles your This is Lance McDaniel. He's the dog guy.
He's loves being a dog guy. Big into dogs. Uh, I'll see if this helps answer your questions. By state mandate, all
police service dogs in Utah must be certified by post for each area they are trained in and must pass a reertification each year. yada yada
training, training, training. Dogs are trained in specific odors. So, we don't have a dog do both narcotics and explosives. And that makes sense, right?
If you if you if your dog hits on me, you need to know, am I a drug user or am I a bomb guy? I mean, that's a that's a
clear thing you got to know if you're going to have it hit on me. Uh, bomb dogs are trained on firearms and ammunition.
Patrol dogs are trained to locate evidence. The difference is guns have residue for bomb dogs and there's human
odor on guns and ammunition for evidence dogs. In other words, um, if you have a firearm,
the uh, gun dog can smell it. They can also smell the ammunition. are trained to smell the different powders and things like that. So, that's uh in
request to that. And now we have a video from 5:00 p.m. is a video from 5:00 p.m.
Let me make this large so we can all benefit from uh being able to see it.
But this is precisely at 5:00 p.m. And we have uh a view of dogs on campus.
I'll kill the volume just in case. I don't know what it plays here, but these are the dogs looking around. Sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff. Over here, phto. Oh, sniff, sniff, sniff,
sniff, sniff, sniff. Nothing here, Sergeant. Okay, now what about over here? Sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff. Those were your dogs on campus at 5:00 p.m.
And a tank. [laughter] Just in case we need a tank, we got one.
You never know. You never know if you're going to need a tank. So, luckily the ORM Police Department has a tank. I'm not sure how I feel about local police departments being so militarized.
Um, but that is what they have. Um, so Utah County and um Utah State dogs are
pretty good dogs. They actually have not um they've not gone without notice nationally. So, I will show you some awards that have been won by these dogs.
10 minutesOh, hold on. No thanks. don't need to subscribe to your dog newsletter. Uh here is a
an award ceremony from the uh K9 games or whatever award a winning show of laws and law enforcement. This is from 2024
32nd annual LVMPD K9 trials. You'll notice right here, fourth place, Lance McDaniel and K9 Loki. Low key. That's
lowkey a good dog. [laughter] My kids would get that. that you boomers may not understand. Uh, but that's low-key a good dog. And I'm not knocking
on you boomers for not understanding. I frankly wish I didn't understand that joke. Um, overall overall we've got um dog placement here.
So, we've got talented dogs, right? The these are not these are not garbage dogs. If there was a firearm in the area, you would think the dogs would
have found it because here are your rankings in the 33rd annual Las Vegas K9
trials of 2025. First place, K9 Scout and Officer Tona with the PO uh Provo
Police Department. Utah County Sheriff's Office checking in at P3 with Low Key.
Low-key checking in at 3P. Uh Utah County Sheriff's Office also picks up P4 and the Provo Police Department with K9
Eddie picking up fifth place. If you name your dog Eddie, you you're probably not very polite to your dog, but that's okay. That's okay. Your dog shouldn't
have human names. Your dog shouldn't be like named Fred. That's not a thing. Um and so we actually have some more pics
from that day. Here is one pic of a particularly terrifying looking animal walking around on campus led by a particularly
terrifying looking individual. Frankly, if we're being honest with ourselves, um this is from that day. A K-9 out there doing his work.
And if you need a yet more proof, and actually we could keep going. I have helicopter footage of these dogs. I've got all kinds of stuff. I can show you
12 minuteswhere they went. Um but here's another dog out there sniffling around. This dog does not look like the big terrifying dog the other one was, but he's he's out
there, man. He's got his nose to the grindstoneone. He's he's sniffing around. He's sniffing around. So, those are your uh that's your evidence that in
the afternoon hours beginning at , lasting until after , there were police dogs all over the joint. police
dogs all over the Now, uh I want to I want to show you a little bit of what Zack Costello covered today because it was it was interesting to me.
I'm I'm not going to show you his whole video here. I'm going to back up and show you ah this one in particular. This part right here was so compelling to me.
You guys remember the footage? The footage that they all came out and said was in excellent 4K high definition. You could see the boogers in his nose. You
could see the strawberry seeds in his teeth. You could see the the hairs hair growing out of his ears. Like it was super. You you not only could see him pull the trigger, but you could see the
trigger action move and you knew it was a two-stage trigger, but I mean it just crazy how detailed they said it was. And then we looked at it and Brandy and Billy were there. They're like, I don't know if it's a cow, is it a person?
Could it be Bigfoot? A space alien?
We're not really sure. We saw a blob, a very small blob at that. Um, but when they initially showed us this footage,
they did not show us the part where the alleged shot was to have taken place.
They actually started it a few seconds later. And I thought that was a little strange, a little interesting. I couldn't figure out why because if you have the footage and you think it shows
a guy taking a shot, show me the footage. What are you waiting on? And I'm not going to play the video. You've all seen it a thousand times. It's him
running across the roof, Spider-Maning down the roof, and then running out into the grass. You guys have all seen it.
We've all seen it. And we noticed that they zoomed kind of suspectly and all this stuff. Well, we now have the unedited footage.
And when you see this unedited footage, you're going to see, I think, why it is that they kept us from looking at it.
Here is the uh footage here. I'll play it on mute just because it doesn't really matter what they're saying because that's not where we're watching at. You see up here on the right hand
side of this parking lot, you've got uh one, two, three, four rows of cars starting at the top.
Ignore rows one and two up here for now.
Look at rows three and four. And then go all the way to the right between these two rows. And you see this white SUV pulling in.
You see that white SUV pulling in? Hold on. Why do I repeat myself? It's annoying. Um, when you have a successful podcast, I will market myself after you.
I will do exactly how you do it. In the meantime, settle down. Settle down. Um, this white SUV is pulling in. I want you
to watch as it drives down the um down the lane here. I want you to watch and see what it does. This is interesting to
me. Very interesting. And then we're going to look at what type of SUV it is and then say, do we see this SUV anywhere else? But watch this for a second. Here comes the SUV turning in.
Now, he turned in. Let me back it up just a hair. This SUV, I want to look at the time stamp here. This is 1223 and .
This SUV turns into the parking lot at 12:23 and . Does anybody know anything interesting about that timing?
actually 1223 and . This is almost to the second that the that the bang happened. Almost to the second that the bang happened.
I'm going to speculate here in a minute, but I I think it's fair to say where my speculation's going. Might this car have been involved? Was it Was it part of the
operation? Watch what the SUV does. So, we're going to go here. 12 23 24 25 26 27 28. Bang. There's your bang.
You've got the guy now standing up and running away. Notice the car has stopped. Completely stopped.
If you look at the top of the roof here, while the car is stopped, you see him making his way across the roof.
Now he's on this little white triangle on the corner of the roof. Car is still stopped. Right here, the car is still stopped. He's now Spider-Maning off the roof.
He's spider-maning off the roof. Car is now just barely going. Now that the guy has jumped off the roof, it's turning slowly around this corner right here.
He's now running off and he's safe. See how this car is going slow and then it nails the gas. As soon as the car realizes this guy's walking off and
going at a pretty brisk pace, this guy nails the gas. He turns here and he gets the heck out of dodge.
I'm gonna play it again now that you know what you're looking for. I'm pointing this out for a particular reason.
I'm pointing this out for a particular reason. Uh let me go back to where he turns in the Oh, that's I'm going too far. Um
the timing is just too incredibly suspect. And now I'm going to speculate that this car was a pickup car in case
he got injured coming off the roof. I'm going to speculate that and I'm going to I'm going to support that in a minute.
This is a pickup car in my opinion in case that guy got hurt h hurtling off the roof.
He turns in almost to the second that the big bang happens. Almost to the second, maybe five, eight seconds before.
And then he stops until the guy runs all the way to the roof. Which means if I'm right, there had to be some kind
of communication so this guy would have been told when he was dropping off the roof so he could start turning to go pick him up if he needed to watch it again.
This blob up here that's supposedly up here in HD taking the shot is still lying down. The car comes to a complete stop right here.
I'll tell you when the blob gets up and start running up there. Oh, he's running across the roof now.
He's almost to the white triangle. Now he's entering the white triangle. The car is still stopped.
The guy's climbing down, spidermaning off the roof. This is a 15, 18 ft roof. It not out of the realm of possibility.
You might break an ankle, sprain an ankle, you know, uh tear up a knee, in which case you would be dead in the water if you didn't have a getaway car.
Now the guy is running across the grass.
This white truck can see he's safe. And watch the acceleration.
He's getting out of there in case he needs to pick him up. He has to get to the end down there to see if he needs to pick him up. Nope. Guy's going that way.
19 minutesAll right, I'm out of here. I don't think I'm wrong about that.
I don't think I'm wrong about that. I don't think I'm wrong about that at all.
In fact, did have we seen that car before? That exact white SUV? Have we had an opportunity to see that before?
Well, now that we've had brilliant Zack Costello pointing this out on the Zack Costello show, I want you to see this
footage here. This is purportedly Tyler Robinson coming into campus.
Look at that car.
That's the same car. The black wheels, white four-door.
It looks like the same car to me. It's got even got the little white thing poking off the back back here.
And Tyler turns around and looks back at it.
And then Tyler stands there. And then the car disappears. Now is is it did they edit this because they didn't want
us to see what that car did? Like I thought maybe they edited it because they didn't want us to see him take a phone call, but is it possible that car
did something else? Maybe stopped for a minute and they chat. I don't know. But they edited the footage so that the vehicle just disappeared. Watch the car again. Watch only the car.
There it goes. It's just off the off the races there. Now you got another car coming up behind him.
Tyler puts his phone back in his pocket.
Now watch. Bends that knee. That right knee is the knee that's supposed to be limpy. He's got a gun down there and he can't bend it. Right. Watch this again.
He's not supposed to be able to use that knee. The right knee is the one that's supposed to be limpy. Watch.
He forgets it's limpy. Oh, I remember now. I got a limp. [laughter] I thought that was pretty funny. The Tylers all over campus was hilarious.
And I'm convinced there were at least two, maybe three. I'm just going to refer to them as the Tylers from now on.
They were all over the place. Tyler's all over the place. Now, there's another interaction with a car that I find particularly compelling.
And I want to ask a question. Have we seen this car again? This is Tyler Robinson in the parking lot. This is
Tyler Robinson in the parking lot. Uh, Zack Costello points out two cars and then he stops and points out a third car. Zack, I apologize that I'm not
using your voice here. I promise he provides excellent commentary. Everybody should go watch him, but I'm not I'm not um
I'm not doing it because I want to talk over it. So So Tyler, that's supposed to be Tyler Robinson there. That's what we're told is that is Tyler Robinson's
great challenger. He pulls up to this parking lot for some unknown reason. We have no idea what he's doing. Notice the arrow to this white SUV here. That is
not the same white SUV we saw in the last two clips. That is a different SUV. This is a Lexus. I believe the other two were Toyotas.
22 minutesSame car, you know, same ultimate car company, but different cars. Um, so let's watch this now. You guys see this?
This guy, there's a guy sitting in this white car here. He's about to get going.
He He does that little lean up everybody does right before they get ready to go.
There he goes. He's leaning again, doing his little lean. Now he takes off. Now watch. Oh, he can't be with Tyler. He went the other way. He He's No, he's
nowhere near Tyler. He's He's go Oh, there he is. And he pulls up behind Tyler and they pull off together.
Now, right before the car pulled up, I want to I want to pay I want you to pay attention to this gray SUV. It's kind of blurry in the very very top up here on the right hand side.
This is a gray SUV. I believe based on my expertise that's some sort of GMC SUV.
You watch it pull up and it kind of comes to a almost it does come to a stop and then it drives off. And when it comes to a stop and drives off, these two cars leave. I'll pull it one more
time in real uh this is actually in fast time. He's got it video spit up, but watch it up here in the top right. Gray SUV comes, stops. When it stops, these
two cars leave. It's almost as if the white SUV, this Lexus that was up here in the front, was waiting to be told,
"I'm almost there. I'm almost there. I'm almost there. Okay, go ahead and circle around and get behind and then they all drove off together.
So the question is, have we seen that gray SUV anywhere? Is that the first and only time we've seen the gray SUV? Have we ever run into that gray SUV before?
In other words, is this part of the story?
Well, let me show you one more clip here. Actually, I'm going to show you two more clips. I think I think I've got the other one pulled up. I'm going to show you one more clip here of this
potentially the same gray SUV on campus because I do believe that SUV that pulled up looks just like this one that's pulling off of UVU's campus after
the Big Bang. Thank you, Adam Bartholome, for making sure you capture every single piece of evidence. That's what that gray SUV looked like that
pulled up and I recognized it because of the way the headlights sit, the way the grill was pictured on that blurry image.
And so that looks a lot to me like the same SUV and it's coming off of campus here
by it close and look directly into the driver's window. But he does not. Alas,
he does not. Um Oh gosh, I put the wrong thing in there.
Uh Daisy, can you drop right here? I I screwed up. Can you drop the um Tyler limping down the street video right there?
I I mislabeled that up. Oh, no. It's right here. It's It's 2B. I got it. Okay, don't worry about that.
I just put it in the I just put it in the wrong spot. Um let me show you if we see this gray SUV. Again,
this is another podcaster. I'll let me give him credit. I don't know who it is. Crime scene 2 courtroom.
Crime scene 2 courtroom. I don't know what that is, but uh this is old, man. I think he put this out like back in September. So, you have Tyler here uh limping down the street.
He's right here. Limping down the street almost to the corner. He gets to the corner and stops.
This guy's playing with the stuff a lot.
Let's see. I don't know what all he's doing. But he gets to the corner and stops. Pulls out his phone.
While he's at the corner stopping and pulling up his phone, notice our gray SUV is back. This is now the
third time we've seen I think that same car. It pulls up. It pulls over out of the lane of travel. So, the way these
streets are structured is there's two lanes of travel in the middle and then there's two parking line lanes on either side of it. You can park on this main
highway. That's the way, for whatever reason, that's how Utah does it, or at least Oram, Utah does it. You can drive down the two lanes. They're opposite
lanes, you know, double yellow lines down the middle. And then on the outside of those two lanes, there's a parking lane. Now, you'll see this guy pulls
over into the parking lane. I'll back it up a little bit again so no one can accuse me of making it looks like he look like he stopped when he didn't. He doesn't completely stop, but he almost
does. He slows way down to just a couple of miles an hour. And you can see he has to turn left back into the travel lane.
See him traveling turning back into the travel lane to get around this parked car over here. So it's clear to me in my
opinion that guy turned out of the lane of traffic, slowed down
to talk to one of the Tylers, and then back out into the lane of travel and then kept going on.
I just don't see how you can see that any other way. Tyler's standing there at a dead stop. This guy pulls out of the
lane of traffic near him. And I am 99.5% convinced that that is the same SUV that
was in the parking lot. You can see the front grill area here. The same SUV in the parking lot and the same SUV potentially on campus on on park in the parking lot, I'm pretty sure.
And so the question becomes, if you believe that Tyler Robinson planned and executed Charlie Kirk, are you asking any of these questions?
Like, who are these people?
Who is in the white SUV that very obviously waited for him to jump off and make sure he was okay before speeding off? You know, the the the whole thing
would have been ruined if he if that guy breaks his ankle and can't move and he doesn't have a 306 in his hand.
The whole game is up. I think that guy was plan B. I think plan A was dependent completely on Tyler Robinson alone. Plan
plan B would be jump in this car, get out of town, and we'll blame it on two people working together and we'll pin it on them, Tyler Robinson and someone else.
And then they probably had a whole plan B set going. We don't know about it because we haven't seen it. We We weren't looking for it. We haven't examined the evidence looking for it.
But when I saw Zack Costello talking about these car passes and and seeing these cars over and over, I thought, "Wait a minute. These are the same cars."
He didn't Zach didn't show the guy walking down one of the Tylers limping down 800 North or 800 South.
But when I saw that SUV pull up in the parking lot and he identified it, I thought, "That's the same SUV that pulled up next to him on 800 South.
It looks like the same SUV.
And I think it presents a major credibility problem to the people opposing us in our investigation into who killed Charlie Kirkow and why.
Because if the most compelling is the SUV that turns in the parking lot, stops at a dead stop at the exact turns in the parking lot at the exact moment the
alleged gunshot happens, stops, waits for the guy to jump off the roof, turn slowly to make sure he's okay, and then speeds out of the parking lot, getting out of the getting away from the scene.
That's to me the most compelling that that the Tylers weren't working alone.
There's somebody else on the on the outside. And then you have the SUV that pulls up beside him, slows down out of the lane of travel, and then goes back
out. That to me is the second most compelling. The third most compelling is what happened in that parking lot where Tyler Robinson or one of the Tylers
pulls up, stops his car, waits for like two solid minutes, and that white SUV does not get ready to turn, circle
around, and get behind one of the Tylers until the gray SUV pulls up and stops.
Then it's time to go. That's a level of coordination you just can't you can't approximate. That's not like set your swatches and we'll be back here at .
That's like, hey, I'm s out. I'm s out. Go ahead and go. That is very sophisticated operation.
It's a very sophisticated operation.
Think about the level of sophistication you would have to have to know precisely when the shot was going to take place.
not when it did take place, but when it was going to take place, cuz you have to drive on campus and you have to turn into the parking lot and be prepared to be the getaway
driver for plan B. I'm I'm just insanely curious. I wish they would have turned their cameras and we had better views inside those cars because I want to know, are they wearing maroon shirts?
[laughter]
Are they all the Tylers? Are these all the three or four different Tylers and they're all also just driving cars? But I get back to it. I think plan B was to
set up two people and they probably had a second fall guy there.
And that second fall guy was supposedly going to be the pickup guy driving him off cuz there's no way that if the guy jumps
off the roof and twist his ankle, they go, "Well, we tried. We were going to pull off a frame job on a guy named Tyler Robinson, but sorry, Bill. I guess
you're going to have to eat it. That's not the way these operations work.
They've got a backup plan and a backup to the backup plan.
The original plan, mind you, was for Tyler Robinson to be framed alone. And that's what happened. But I think part of that plan was for Tyler Robinson to
be taken out so that we're not doing any of this any of this investigation 10 months and 3 days later. Now, speaking of 10 months and 3 days later,
I don't want to show the flight paths on the screen. I thought about showing it on the screen. I don't want to show it on the screen because I accused of harassing people and I don't want to do that.
But I want to describe something.
I want to describe something. Uh, this hearing started on September the 6th, excuse me, uh, July
the 6th. Last Monday, July the 6th, this hearing date started. And we were able to look at the different planes that are
used by these different TPUSA people and get a determination of what time everybody arrived.
Um Erica Kirk's plane we believe arrived around
what time is that? Uh 2550 minus 6 uh 19 7:50 p.m. the night before September
6th. So around 8:00 the night before Erica Kirk we believe flies in on a Gulfream 5.
She flew into Ogden. Stayed in Ogden.
Didn't stay in Salt Lake. Didn't stay in Provo but stay stayed way far north of town. Couple hour drive hour and a half drive away.
And I get it. I I It's the same reason I didn't have any fault with her going in a side door. Um it's safe. Stay way out away from town.
Stay way far away. It's why we never told anyone where she was. It's why we never told anybody we knew what time she arrived. Just wait till it's all over and then we'll recap. That's what we've
done. We've waited till it's all over and she's safely back home. Now we can recap where she's been. No reason to put anybody in any jeopardy. Um, not that that that it would, but no reason for
them to acclaim that we're putting people in jeopardy. It's nonsensical.
It's stupid. But but I don't even want them to have the claim. But she flies in 750 the night before. Her plane does not stop. It keeps going.
It goes to Callisbell, Montana. Ladies and gentlemen, I have to ask you, what in the hell is going on in Callisbell, Montana?
For a little dinky town that almost nobody had heard of before this case started. It gets so many private plane flights from TPUSA affiliated people.
It's uncanny how often they're in Callispel, Montana. I mean, it's absolutely uncanny.
I'll show you why it's weird to me.
Because if you look at Callispel, it's basically a map dot. It's one little tiny um one little tiny map dot. Hold
on. I'm trying to find the main street here. Where's the main street of Callispel? There it is. So, I'm on Main Street here in Callisbell, Montana.
I'm going to give the game away if I show my screen right
there. It is. So, let me show you real quickly what I'm talking about.
This is Callispel. We're talking about I'm not kidding. A legitimate map dot.
Oh, I lost it. [laughter] I apologize. I'm an amateur. All right, let me back up here. I got to do this just right or it won't have the right
effect. All right, this is Callisbell, Montana.
Why are so many TPUSA people flying into Callispel? You'll notice it's just like any other city in America. They've just got some stuff, you know, oldtimey
looking town with just just looking around. It just looks like any small town America. You know, these kinds of buildings here, all this stuff, nothing
to it. And you just turn around in every direction and you think, why would anybody be flying non-stop constantly to
Callispel? What What is that? What is that brand new looking building? Oh,
that's the FBI headquarters. [laughter] They got a bank in there, too. But that's the FBI headquarters for Callispell, Montana. If you look, it
says it's right there. The Federal Bureau of Investigation right there. I don't know if that's what they're doing in Callispel or not, but it's enough to
make you wonder as often as they're going up there.
It makes it feel like this is kind of an FBI operation. So, we notice that. We just We're taking notes. We're listening. We're watching. We're seeing different people go different places. We
watch a plane drop, presumably drop off Erica because that never goes back. Drop off Erica and immediately continue on to Callisbell.
Okay, fair enough. And it goes from Callisbell and it doesn't really matter what it does the rest of the week because Erica Kirk's at the trial. And
so at the end of the week, you figure where where did Erica go by the end of the week? The trial was over on the 10th.
And then we were able to figure it out. She was picked up in Ogden, Utah.
The plane leaves Ogden, Utah at what's that? 2036 - 6 14:30 2:36 p.m. It was a morning ending. Drive up, grab your bags, get on the plane, off you go.
You're leaving Ogden.
And you would figure after 5 days away from home, you would rush home to see your kids. You couldn't wait to just get home and see your kids. Well, not exactly.
Not exactly where they went. In fact, they flew into Manasses, Virginia.
Flew into Manasses, Virginia.
And if you know anything about Manasses, Virginia, uh I'm going to take a screen cap and show you. That way we hide the flight
information. If you know anything about Manasses, Virginia, you will instantly recognize what I'm about to show you. It
was the strangest place you would ever think someone might go immediately following
being in a trial for a week. What's in Manasses, Virginia?
The Marine Base Quantico. What's at Marine Base Quantico? The FBI testing office. Now, Manasses, Virginia. You
say, "Well, that's kind of suburban Washington DC." Yeah, but there are six closer airports to Washington DC than Manasses, Virginia.
In fact, when the FBI director flies to Marine Base Quantico, he flies into
Manasses. We know what planes he flies as well. I thought that was an interesting choice. You know, you you
just you just finished up your whole week. You're dying to get home and see your kids. It's Friday night. You've had a very stressful week. Cried many times.
you've you had to get up and leave court a few times because the testimony was particularly stressful on you. Um you don't rush home.
You don't rush home. You run to Manasses, Virginia.
You run to Manasses, Virginia. Um and then we saw um she finally
leaves the Washington DC area uh on today, right?
Which plane was she on? Look at the She finally leaves Washington um DC on Yeah.
Yesterday. But they don't go home.
She gives her big speech.
Everybody's sharing clips of it. They leave Washington DC, but they don't go back to Scottsdale.
That was yesterday. R they don't go back to Scottsdale. Instead, they go to Dylan, Montana. Little bitty Dylan, Montana.
Tiny, tiny little map dot. They're only there about and then they fly to the next city over called Bosezeman. Just about a 10-minute flight away.
And I couldn't figure out what the connection was between Dylan and Boseman. Like, if you're going to find a Boseman, just find a Boseman. Why would you fly to Dylan and then to Boseman? Do
you know who owns a tremendous amount of property in Dylan, Montana? Rupert Murdoch.
Rupert Murdoch owns a disgusting amount of property in Dylan, Montana.
The top of his property to the bottom of his property is 50 miles.
50 miles. Think of what interstate exit you live near. Think of an interstate exit 50 miles away. That's how much property is in this one piece of property. The big big piece of property.
They bought it from the Koch brothers.
Dylan, Montana. They fly into Dylan, Montana. Then they fly over to Bosezeman. I don't know. Maybe you pick up someone in Dylan and you go to Bosezeman and then you have your
meetings. Um they're there overnight and then leave today.
Leave Boseman back to Dylan for just a short period of time at apparent drop off and then finally back home.
finally back home and then the plane for whatever reason continues on to Las Vegas. I don't know if someone who was also on the plane needed to continue on to Las Vegas or whether that was, you
know, the pilot's like, "Man, a lot of traveling this week. I'm going to go gamble." I don't know. But it's just a weird set of events.
Like, if I had just been through one of the most stressful weeks of my life, I would want to go home. I would want to
go home. And if I'm not speaking till Sunday, maybe I go home on Friday and fly to Washington DC on Sunday. I don't fly to Marine Base Quantico where the
FBI testing headquarters is and then wait a couple of days in the DC area and then drive and then I guess
drive up to Washington DC, give my speech and then fly but not fly home.
Fly to Dylan, Montana and then to Boseman, Montana and then home. I say all this to say, guys,
unless she's paying for this privately, I'm assuming all this is being paid for by TPUSA. I don't know that. I mean, truthfully, I don't audit their books.
But this is not an exaggeration. People like to bang on Candace, oh, Candace makes so much money on an episode or bang on this
creator or that creator. Oh, they make too much money. Those flights, those flights alone, I did a little math
to Ogden to Callispel, Ogden, Quanico, DC
to um to Dylan to Boseman to Dylan and back to Scottsdale.
My back of the envelope math was almost $300,000.
I don't know what percentage of our audience makes $300,000 a year. That was burnt in airline mileage.
in a couple of days. That's a lot.
And it's fair game because they're a nonprofit entity, which means to the extent that they call that a business expense, they don't pay taxes on it. No, it doesn't get charged anyway. Now, it's
possible, like I say, that she could be paying it out of her pocket. Um maybe she say, "Hey, this is a personal flight. Here's $150,000 or whatever, and
I'll just cover the cost. Don't worry about it." It's possible they're charging it to one of the for-profit entities they have.
You know, Charlie was a wealthy man and involved in a lot of business. Maybe he had private flight credits with a bunch of his business. I don't know. I really honestly don't know. But I am mystified.
I am totally mystified why at the end of that week, that stressful week, you didn't fly straight
home. His parents flew straight home. I saw their plane. His parents left about the same time she did. They didn't fly
to Marine Base Quantico. They didn't go to Washington DC. They didn't go to Dylan, Montana. They didn't go to Bosezeman. They didn't go back to Dylan.
They didn't go back to Scottsdale. They went home. They flew to Chicago.
It's been a long week, a very stressful week. They lost their son. There was a preliminary hearing with the guy accused of taking their son's life. Sure was very uh taxing on them. He went home.
They went home.
I think she should have gone home if I'm being honest. I think she should have gone home. But that's up to her. I mean, it's her life. She can live whatever
life she wants. I do want to know where the where the kids were this whole time. I am curious about where the kids were.
All right, we're going to switch gears.
I got to show you the Lance Twigs testimony. We have a few timestamps here uh set out for you. Uh, I want to clarify as I go through this. I'm going
to clarify one piece of confusion that has reigned supreme all week. Um, it will come up early, so you'll know the
44 minutesmoment I clarify it. Uh, but let me play this testimony.
Uh, not in its entirety. We're going to skip around a little bit. It's long. I don't want to spend the whole . All right, we're going to open here.
How well did Lance Twigs know Tyler?
How well, wrong one. How well did Lance Twigs know Tyler? Should be easy, right? This is the furry boyfriend.
And do you know Tyler Robinson? Yes, I do. Or Yeah, I do.
Do you or don't you?
Do you know Tyler? I mean, that's you know, if somebody came up to me and they're like, "Do you know Bill Smith?" and Bill Smith lived in my house until
September 10th. I'd be like, "Yes, I know Bill Smith. He lived in my house." I wouldn't have to stop, pause, look up at this guy, think about it. And do you know Tyler Robinson?
Yes, I do. Or Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do.
45 minutesYeah, I know. T I know Tyler. Um, what does Tyler Robinson do for a living? Actually, hold on. I want I had
one more thing I wanted to share here that's not in notes. And I think I closed them out.
Let me let me uh real quickly let me go to the uh transcript.
Okay. Yeah. Um so I'm going to go to where he talks about when did he meet Tyler Robinson. So here we are back.
When did you meet Tyler Robinson?
All right. Um, okay. Sorry about that interruption. All right. So, you said when you first met met you were roommates.
There's been a lot of confusion that he said met Matt as if the guy's name was Matthew and he's nicknaming it down to Matt. When you met Matt, you were
roommates. That's not at all what he's saying here. Um, I'm going to back it up a little bit and then put it in context. It makes a lot more sense.
So, I think this one's mic is on. Okay. Sorry.
Okay. You don't have my mic, but that's fine. Okay. Okay. So, we should be good. All right.
I don't think I backed it up enough. No, I didn't.
Just to make a record, I'm going to do it again. You just And will you describe your relationship
with with Tyler uh when you first met him? Anyway, um when I first met him, I didn't know
him super well. He was just a new roommate. So that's what he's referencing. When you first met him, he's like, "Well, when I
first met him, I didn't know him very well. He was just a roommate." And then he goes on to say, "He actually met him before that, not in person." Uh,
I knew he knew my friend group and I knew he liked playing games, but that that's about it when we first uh like when he first moved in.
Okay.
47 minutesUm, before we go on, I And now he changes. Now, let's go back.
That's the context for this next question where he talks about, okay, so when you first met met him, meaning you were aware of him, you guys may have
played games, he was part of your friend group, but when you met met him, meaning when he moved in? Yes. Okay, great.
All right. Um, okay. Sorry about that interruption. All right. So, you said when you first met met you were roommates. Uh, yeah.
Okay. And then, um, at some point, uh, your relationship progressed to something more than just roommates, right? Mhm. When was that?
Did that seem very confident? Mhm. Mhm.
I don't think they were lovers. I see no evidence of it. I don't think they were boyfriend. I think that is a totally
madeup thing of this. I I just don't believe it. They don't This guy doesn't act like it at all.
Um I think we started dating two or three months after he moved in.
Okay. And where did you live at that time?
And he says they lived at the um at the apartment where they eventually was.
Okay. Now, let's skip forward to do you even know what Tyler does? Okay. We're
told this is a guy that Tyler Robinson literally took a life for. He was so in love. He was so taken by him.
Construction. Okay. How about Tyler?
Um I think he was both working. I think he was working for an electric like an electrician company then and he was also
in a trade school for being a I don't know higher like ranking electrician.
I'm not sure how the trade system works for that. Okay. But I think he was both. What was his typical workday like?
He didn't even know like did he go to school, what days, what time did you know? He didn't know any of that. It's almost like he was just sort of a
passive roommate. A guy who was part of the friend group and he moved in. Um, I think you'd leave around 7 generally and
49 minutesget back around 3 to 4, uh, depending on like where the job was and how long it was for the day.
I want you to listen to his voice for a second.
We already said that there's no way that someone would kill Charlie Kirk over the L, the G, or the B in LGBT if they know
anything about Charlie Kirk. If they follow him closely enough to be willing to take his life, it can't be over the LG or B. If they
know anything about Charlie Kirk and anything about TPUSA, the place is literally crawling with L's, G's and B's. I mean, it's eaten up with the place.

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So, it has to be the T.
Is there anything in this guy's a effect, anything in his voice, anything in his appearance that makes you think he's a T?
And then on certain days of the week during school like semesters he would then
50 minuteslater in the day I think around five or six go to school. So yeah.
Okay. Let's jump to September 10th. Um did he spend spend the night in the apartment the night of September 9th into September 10th?
September. Yeah he did.
Yes. Do you know someone's coaching him, too?
Someone's like, "Yes, you have to give a clear yes." Cuz he's like, "Yeah, he did." Yes.
Someone's coaching this guy into There are a lot of people in the room. There's only one guy on camera. There's this Sarah Varner. She's a victim's rights
advocate. David Sturgil, I think. I don't know what that guy does. But there are other people in the room. It's not just the two of them because there was a woman who came up and she's not one of
them and she was fiddling with the microphone and you can see him looking at other people the apartment on September 10th.
Um I don't know an exact time. I just know he left early. Uh I heard him leaving and he just said he had a like a
long drive to work that day. So he was leaving early.
Yeah. So early. Um any guess as to what um when that was? Uh,
I don't know. I would have thought it was 5:00 a.m. because that's when like an early work day was for him, but it was probably more like 4.
Okay. You would have thought five, but then I'm going to look at somebody and now I'm going to say four.
Did you see that? Like you don't you don't change your estimation in the middle of a sentence.
I would have thought maybe like 5:00 a.m. Oh, it I think four when that was uh I don't know. I would have thought it
was 5 a.m. because that's when like an that's him looking up at somebody. So he's looking over he's looking past
there. He's looking up at early work day was for him but it was probably more like okay
his gum just to make sure that I can do that. to hit you right in front of your laptop. All right, here you go.
All right, let's jump forward ever so slightly.
What was Lance doing on the biggest news day in Utah history?
What time did you get up on September 10th? Probably like 12 to 100 p.m.
Yeah, probably around uh after it was over. So, I definitely wasn't there. I was just asleep. That's my alibi. I'm sticking to it. I was snoozing. officer.
I promise you didn't have to work that day. Uh, no.
Didn't have to work that day. A Wednesday.
He does bluecollar uh remodeling and construction.
Tyler had to take the day off of work cuz he also does bluecollar construction type work. Just a couple of bluecollar
construction gay guys.
\ou know, the blueco collar construction fields just eating up with with trans and furries
and he just mysteriously didn't have to work on a Wednesday and he just slept until after it happened. I was just sleeping. Notice he never again asked him what he did the rest of the day.
And did you hear from Tyler? Did he call or text you before then?
Uh, no. He sent that message in the group chat I mentioned, but he didn't message me directly at all.
And we talked about this, but I want to show it because I think it's relatively critical to whether or not Lance Twigs is an honest human being. I think the
answer to that question is pretty obvious. No, he's not. Um, but he says he didn't hear from Tyler that day. He
sent a message in the group chat, meaning probably the Discord chat if I had to guess. He he sent a message to the group chat, but I didn't hear from
him directly. Except the phone text you show says you did hear from him at 4:33 p.m. on Wednesday.
While Tyler Robinson is out scrambling to get his gun allegedly. While Tyler Robinson is trapped in Orum for a little longer yet because they they're police
dogs and police cars and he can't get back.
There's a text message from Tyler Robinson at 4:33 p.m. that he says he didn't get. The problem is he responded
to it allegedly in my opinion. That's what this evidence seems to suggest. I don't know how many of these are fake. I don't believe all of them are real.
But I don't believe Lance Twigs is a credible guy.
Has anybody double checked to see whether Lance Twigs was supposed to work that day?
or was Wednesday his day to sleep till 12 or 1 and then be unaccountable for the rest of the day and have no alibi,
nobody identify where he is, nobody to to to tell you that they saw him, even though his DNA is all over the crime scene.
We're just not going to worry about it.
We're going to take his word for it. Oh, you were sleeping? Good. Good night. I hope it was good.
It's a it's it's a little suspicious to me. He's a dishonest human being.
According to his text, he's dishon engraving bullets.
Which is, by the way, one of the most insane things in the history of the world. No one would ever say, "Remember how I was engraving bullets." Even if you were engraving bullets,
you wouldn't say, "Remember how I was engraving bullets?" that wouldn't come out of your mouth. Was he engraving bullets before this?
Uh yeah, I don't remember exactly when, but uh he had said he was planning to go hunting with his family. Um and he asked
me for a if we had like a Dremel to because he said he wanted to create messages on bullets.
Um and I just told him where Dremel was and I told him to make sure he doesn't like set off a bullet on accident in the house.
Yeah. Be careful out there playing with bullets. It's dangerous work. Just Just be careful, would you, honey, my love,
my sweet, do they sound Do does that interaction does this guy's a effect sound like somebody who's texting my
love this and it's all I did it all for you my love and my love this and my does his interaction sound anything like
someone who talks like that? Does he talk like that? like this like this uh 16th century Shakespeareian pros
or does he sound like a brain deadad zombie mentally ill 22-year-old because that's kind of how he appears. That's sort of his mental history that's been released publicly.
But I didn't really think about it until then.
How long before um September 10th was this that you he asked about the Dremel?
I I don't remember cuz he'd been talking about the uh hunting camping trip for a couple months.
This is a kid Tyler Robinson who has for months
been talking about this family trip he's going to take.
This hunting and camping trip. Not something he sounds like he's ah I got to get roped into this. No, he's looking forward to He's talking about it for months.
He doesn't present in that retelling as the type of kid who's like to hell with my old man. He's too MAGA. I'm taking lives.
He sounds like a decent kid who like likes to hunt with his dad, fish, did some boy scout activities growing up.
And the reason I bring that up is not to say, "Oh, I'm super pro Tyler Robinson." I'm just saying it doesn't sound like it's consistent with the evidence that
we've been presented about him. It sounds like someone who for a couple of months was looking forward to taking a family
trip with his old man, his ultra meagga old man.
But I I don't remember when he was specifically asking to engrave the bullets. So So are we talking like a year before?
Oh, no. Not not that not that long. It would have been I'd say at most a month before this. Got a problem now though, guys.
At most a month before this. Okay, so for a month he's engraving bullets for an event to kill Charlie Kirk that Charlie Kirk doesn't announce until a
week or week and a half before that timeline doesn't add up. That's a
problem. Or was he just engraving bullets on the off chance a high-profile political figure was going to make his way to Oram, Utah at some point or St.
George?
It doesn't sound like the story we've been told. Sounds like a different event.
This guy maybe a month before is out there engraving. Remember how I was engraving bullets? Oh yeah, I was engraving bullets.
It wasn't announced a month before.
wasn't announced that early. All right, let me fast forward a little bit to the next little slice here.
What happened to the note? You got a note, right? This is the critical piece of evidence, the handwritten note.
Okay. Uh the notes have been titled 16.3 with a note
and this is base number 58. Do you recognize that that on the screen there? Yeah. Yeah.
What do you recognize it as?
Um, that was the note under his keyboard that he was referring to in the first text of that chain.
So, where did you find this?
On on his desk underneath his like uh computer keyboard.
on the desk underneath his computer keyboard, meaning he has access to his computer, physical access.
If he's a roommate and they play the same games, maybe he has access to the login credentials, you know, the password to access the computer. If you have my password to my computer, you can
send text out in my name. Uh, I would say a good chunk of the texts I send during the day are done on my computer and not on my phone. But they do appear
on my phone. They do appear on my phone, but they're actually sent from this keyboard right here.
That's a a weird thing about the way Apple works. So, what happened to the note? You found the note. It's critical piece of evidence. We were told the note was burned.
And what you I assume you read it.
Yeah.
And then what did you do with it after you read it?
Um, I believe I just put it back down on the desk after I took a picture of it.
I believe I just put it back on the desk after I took a picture of it. I think I did.
Never saw it again. Well, if you don't believe me, I'll play it. He goes on to say he never saw it again.
Okay. And again, the time you read it was probably around 11:00 or so on the 10th. Yes. The night of September 10th.
Mhm.
Right. And did you ever see that again after you placed it back on his desk? Uh, no. I don't think I did.
I don't think I saw it again. I placed it back down. I took a picture of it. I had to preserve this critical piece of evidence, but I don't think I ever saw it again.
How how do you not know if you saw it again? Like, do you do you observe anything and remember it? Like, are you
the kind of It's a pretty big deal. Your roommate confessed allegedly to murder in this note. You
thought enough of it to take a picture of it. Then you set it on the desk and you can't remember if you ever saw it again.
And do you recognize this series of messages here?
Um, yeah. That was the server of like his friend that I was mentioning.
Okay. And this is your phone again? Uh yeah. Again, I would recognize my phone.
Particularly if it was all beat up in that condition. I wouldn't be like, "Uh, yeah, I guess. I guess I I guess I do." We think we know what messages these
are. We're not 100% sure we know what messages we are, but we think we know what messages we are. these are we think these are these messages here.
He said, "Do you recognize these?" And he said, "Yeah, I think that's the server that his friends group was on." And this is these series of messages.
And it has this fatal. Now, keep in mind this time stamp is an hour ahead because where it was captured in the central time zone, not the mountain time zone where it was allegedly drafted.
So, this zealous monkey 55095, this purports to be Tyler Robinson down here.
But these up here allegedly are his friends. These are his friend group up here.
Again, I I don't I don't know if if I've seen no evidence from anyone to say who actually grafted any of those
messages or those friends at all. I do know that Discord makes me really nervous. I don't
I don't love Discord. I also know that I would recognize my phone if you put my phone up and it was in that particularly that condition with the holes all over
it and the screen all cracked. I would recognize it immediately. Immediately.
Now, here is a an interesting discussion about um the messages that took place on September 11th. Yeah, it looks like the
last text from Tyler looks like it's um 8:00 PM. And do you know what day this would have been 8:00 PM on the 10th or the 11th?
Uh I would think that would be the 11th because on at least I think so because I
don't think on the 10th that he messaged anyone before me at like 11. So and he turned himself in on the 11th, right?
I thought so. Yeah.
I just I just feel like the boyfriend would know the the date he turned himself in. Like none of us here would strugg I I think
he turned himself into the like this is and we're just like passive people and he supposedly was interviewed that
same day at 1:00 in the morning. Like this should be seared in his mind. How often do you get interviewed by the FBI?
It may be maybe maybe some more than others, but uh ideally not very often. Not very often.
Again, those messages covered from September 10th to the evening of September 11th. Now, September
um 11th. What time did or did you see however on September 11th? Uh yes.
When did you first see him? On September 11th. So, this is the day after the shooting.
Yeah, I saw him when I woke up. Um, like I said, he was like up and around doing a lot of stuff around the house.
Now, this is a little bit of an inconsistency.
This is a little bit of an inconsistency here because not the text messages they showed in the preliminary hearing, but the text messages we have in our records
that were on the probable cause affidavit, the search warrants. You remember we built out a whole timeline of different text messages
and Lance Twig supposedly was at his mom's house and remember he needed to find some excuse to get out of the house and he had to he had to oh I'll tell my
mom I'm going to do laundry. I'll see you in a little bit. Now this would have all been like 7 8 9 in the morning.
But now he's seeing Tyler Robinson when he wakes up.
That's not consistent with what we were told.
That is a total difference of what we were told. You can't you can't say, "Oh, I saw him when I woke up."
And also say, "We had this whole long exchange where I was at my mother's house celebrating her birthday at 9:00 a.m. and looking for an excuse to get
out of the house." And those were text messages they gave us, the public. Well, they put them in court filings that eventually became
made public. And and that's what we looked at. And so, how do you square that circle?
There's just a lot of things in here that are not consistent with what was represented to us as an airtight,
loctite, perfect case. Open and shut case.
We were told it was an open andsh shut case. Let me uh keep rolling here. I don't have too many more cuts off of this.
Um, and then I uh I think I saw him after that message where I said I'll come home
and say I'm doing laundry because I didn't want him going to my parents' house right then when he said there was
probably cops outside. So I went back home and it was just him there.
So now he backing off of the story. He says, "I saw you when I woke up." And it's almost as if somebody in the room is like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing?
You're not supposed to see him in the house. You're not supposed to see him when you wake up. You're supposed to be at your mom's house." Oh, so I think I saw him after, you know, we had this
series of So did you see him when you woke up or not?
Like that's the answer. That's the question. You've given two different scenarios here in . Did you see him when you woke up or did you see him, oh, I didn't want him coming to my parents house, so I went over there.
Or are you saying I woke up at my parents house? In which case, why were you asleep at your parents house? You have your own place.
I said bye to him and then he drove off. So I just went back to my parents house.
Yeah, I just went back to my parents house erratically. Um was he pacing? Was he just sitting down relaxing?
No, he was he was uh walking around a lot. And that's within the home.
Um, and did you see his lips move at all when he said that? That he was walking around a lot. Go back and watch this again. Just
watch his face here. Did his lips move at all when he says this?
Erratically. Um, was he pacing? Was he just sitting down relaxing?
No, he was he was walking around a lot.
Is it ventriloquist? He's throwing his voice. He was walking around a lot.
He's talented ventriloquist, but I didn't see his voice move. But we can't just have the text messages because people can say, "Well, anybody
could send the text messages." We've got to put his confession in his own mouth.
And that's what they're seeking to establish here. Not only did he confess by text, not only did confess by letter, he also confesses with his own mouth.
That's within the home. Mhm.
Um, and did he talk about what he had done?
Uh, didn't go into detail. He just I just asked him in person if what he said was true the night before and he said it
was. I started crying a little bit and said he wishes he hadn't done it
and then kept going around and just doing stuff I think to keep himself busy or distracted or something.
Through this whole exchange his lips don't move right. I mean, I granted there are technical glitches and computer glitches and it's not the
highest quality footage, but I'm very concerned if I'm being honest that there
might have been dubbing over things or I I really don't know. Like they went back and cleaned it up because he didn't say the right thing the first time cuz he's
he's shaking his head like he's like, "No, he didn't say anything." Go back and I'm going to play just a few more seconds of this. I want you to watch his lips, watch his head, and then compare
it to what you hear coming out of his mouth. He just I just asked him in person if what he said was true the night before and he said it was. I
started crying a little bit and said he wishes he hadn't done it and then kept going around and
just doing stuff I think to keep himself busy or distracted or something. Am I the only one on earth that sees that his
lips don't match what he's saying and that his head movements are not consistent with what he's saying? Like
you wouldn't shake your head no during that?
Yeah, he just was telling me all about what he did. Oh, sorry. Hold on. Yeah, tell me all about what he did. He's confessing to the whole thing. He just says he wish you didn't do it. Uhhuh.
Yeah, that's exactly what he said.
It's not consistent. It doesn't look right. And if we're going to accept this as probable cause evidence,
you at least need to record it in a way that I can see his mouth move. There are court reporting services that specialize in video depositions.
They don't do it on Zoom when they're sitting across the table from each other. Now, you might have to use Zoom if one guy's in New York and
the other guy's in LA, but you don't do it this way on Zoom when you're across the table from each
other, in my opinion, unless you intend to manipulate the evidence.
Get a court recording service in there and record his face. We were doing this in like 2005, 6, 7.
You would go to a video deposition and there would be a professional videographer there and they would have their lights out and their really big cameras. Cameras were bigger back then,
20 years ago, guys. They'd have these giant cameras and they'd have these big lights and they would test it. All right, say count to eight. 1 2 3 4.
Okay, we're good. We're good.
because with his mouth moving that way, you could go back and edit anything in on top of what he just said and no one would know.
Now, maybe there is a court reporter there who's who's transcribing it. We haven't seen the transcription. We just got the video.
But this is the type of stuff you do.
This is why I'm saying Tyler Robinson is in grave danger. This is the type of stuff you do if you don't plan on Tyler Robinson going to trial. If you don't
plan on Tyler Robinson breathing oxygen and Lance Twig sitting on a courtroom dock
giving testimony cuz I think it's ludicrous. The lawyer's voice the lawyer's mouth always moves.
His head's bob consistently with what he's saying.
Okay. So, you talk about what he was going to do next.
Uh, and then we got to turn the screen off because we even our edits look too bad.
[laughter]
And then eventually said that he would talk to his parents or turn himself over.
Okay. And uh when you left, was that how you you left understanding that he was going to turn himself in or go to his parents house?
Yeah. And I didn't really want to be at our apartment while any of that was happening, regardless of what went down.
Okay.
I I'm just I'm telling you right now, I don't believe this. I don't believe that in the year 2026, even if everything's
true, even if every word out of his mouth is the exact word he uttered that day, I cannot believe in 2026 we're going to make a probable cause determination based on this.
Not have a witness in the courtroom, not have it in writing where he signed it, but just have him giving a videotape
where his lips don't move, his head bobs inconsistently, it glitches out all over the place. And that's what we're gonna submit to your honor, Judge Tony Graph.
Um, okay. Before he came home, had you seen
the press the press releases um any of the media on on this?
I'd seen one Instagram like link a friend of mine had sent in our group chat,
but I hadn't really looked into it at all. Do you guys want to guess what that Instagram link was? I know what it was.
I'll tell you right now what it had to be.
It had to be about somebody getting detained because if that's the only thing he saw, if that's absolutely the only thing he
saw, then it had to be that because from his text messages
right off the bat, he says, "Drop what you're doing looking at the keyboard." What? You're joking, right? Blank. I tried to delete that. I'm still stuck in
Orum. Shouldn't be longer. You weren't the one who did it, right? I am. I thought they caught the person.
So, if the only thing he knew about the Charlie Kirk case
was that they caught the person, I just closed the wrong screen. If the only thing he knew about the case was that he
caught the person, then they had that had to be what the link was about. Because otherwise, once
again, we have an inconsistency with his 1102 deposition because that's what the text said. He
said he was aware they caught somebody and the only thing he saw was a single Instagram link. It's weird to me that that's the only thing that he saw on
Instagram. He's on Instagram and that's the that's all he comes across. The only thing he sees.
What's my time stamp here? I had to open it. All right, let's go to the FBI picks.
This is the fun part for me. And we talked about this the other day, but even better in light of the fact that they have multiple Tylers running
around. Even better. Now, let me pull it up. Apologize for the technical delays, my friends.
I'm on the FBI's website. Um, you can see the URL there at the top. This is some press release about this event. Um,
and here on the screen, you can see these there's looks like there's two.
Now, I want you to know he has shown him all six pictures already.
So I if if if he recognized him in any of these pictures, it should jump off the screen at him and he should have no question it's him.
He has looked now at all six pictures.
He rolled through the first three, then he rolled for the second three before he even asks the question. Three images.
Mhm. Um do you recognize the person in these images?
And when he says, "Do you recognize the person?" he rolls back up so you can see the face in all six images.
I wouldn't say with a 100% certainty. All right, we're going home, guys.
That's reasonable doubt. The money line in any trial is that's him right there. That's him. That's the guy who
did it. I'm 100% certain he's sitting right there at the defense council's table. Let the record reflect that the witness has pointed to the defendant,
Mr. Bill Smithers, and he cannot state it. and he just
looked at all six pictures just because of camera quality. But that looks like him in terms of the shoes he's wearing, the sunglasses.
I don't think I'd specifically seen him wearing that hat, but he was usually wearing a hat. Um, and then jeans. So,
it definitely, especially the bottom, the last two definitely do look like him.
And again, we can't really see what his face in that little bitty camera thing up there. We can't see who he's looking at. We can't tell where his eyes are.
This is not a professionally done deposition. This is a Zoom call taking place across the table from each other.
But try to look at his face. I can imagine cuz he's saying he can't definitively identify him. And then all of a sudden he decides, "No, in fact, I can. That definitely looks like him."
He was usually wearing a hat um and then jeans. So it definitely especially the
bottom the last two. It almost sounds like the cut in the Charlie Kirk thing.
Something ever happens to me, we've got a good board, they'll figure it out. I appoint Erica. She'll do a great job.
But but guys, that that sounds like it was a jump cut. Listen again for the jump cut here.
He was usually wearing a hat um and then jeans. So it definitely especially the
bottom the last two definitely do look like him. Sounds like a jump cut.
And you can't see with his little bitty face up there what his mouth is doing, what his eyes are doing. You can't tell,
but it sounds like it was cut in. No one talks like that normally. I I would I have to struggle to do it. I'll try to do it one more time. And listen to the
effort, the painstaking effort, tens of thousands of hours of broadcast training in order to pull this off. This
is not an easy feat, guys, but I'll do it. Ready? Uh, I can't state with 100% certainty.
Uh, I mean, it does kind of look like him. Uh, he's got shoes on. Tyler always wore shoes. Um, I've never seen that hat in particular, but he was a big hat guy.
He loved hats, so he So, he's wearing a hat. That's Oh, and sunglasses. He liked sunglasses and shirts. He had a shirt on. It definitely looks like him 100%.
I play it one more time. I think this is damning. a hat. Um, and then jeans. So,
it definitely, especially the bottom, the last two definitely do look like him. And then the emphasis on do.
It definitely the bottom two. It definitely the bottom two do look like him.
You just like a second ago, you'd looked at all six pictures and you couldn't state with 100% certainty and all you could say is he had on jeans. He like jeans. He's a big jean guy. big into
denim, blue jeans, black jeans, supposedly gay, maybe wore white jeans.
We don't know. We don't know. But it sounded like a jump cut.
Are you saying that they might have fiddled with this? Yes. Yes, I am saying that the guy's lips don't move at
critical junctures of the of the testimony. He's sitting there with a blank expression on his face and words are coming out of his mouth. And then
the most critical part of the testimony, the ID where you where we're supposed to believe that the Tylers are all the same Tyler.
And he's like, I don't know, I can't really tell. I do think it looks like him, though, especially those bottom two. I do. I do. I do do.
Now, you must believe, ladies and gentlemen, if a man is willing to take on a political assassination, he must
have been huge into politics. It must have been all he talked about. It must have been on his mind constantly, right?
And group on to play. And he was someone that my friends invited.
Okay. Um, did you and he ever talk about politics?
Um, he did more than me. Uh, I I didn't really still don't really keep up with
politics very much. Uh, he usually talk about stuff he heard on the radio on his drive to work in like their work car
since it sounds like their whole crew went in the same car most of the time.
But, uh, I wouldn't say super consistently because it wasn't a topic I really contributed much on.
Hey Daisy, do you have the Jordan Peterson uh link you can drop in there?
Um just put it under uh 3S2 if you can. Um
th this this does not sound or Andrew Taylor one. doesn't sound to me like a particularly convincing
uh support for the fact that Tyler Robinson planned and executed Charlie Kirk over politics.
Some hate can't be negotiated out. It was on my mind constantly.
I even engraved bullets for the special occasion sometime in the last month or so.
About Charlie Kirk. Did he ever talk about Charlie Kirk?
I I personally had never heard him talk about Charlie Kirk before specifically.
Oh man, I don't want to spoil the surprise if you're new to the show, but uh
[clears throat]
Charlie Kirk's the guy he shot allegedly in my well in the state's opinion.
He never talked about him. Never never dawned on him to never dawned on him to to bring him up
even though he planning to take his life away and he's so much hate you couldn't negotiate out of him and and he did it all for Lance
but he never bothered to bring him up never actually spent any time talking about it.
Okay. Um how about um political issues? So did you ever talk
about gender identity issues and LGBTQ rights? Uh, no. Not not really.
No, not not LGBTQ stuff either. Nope.
Didn't talk about that. Not Charlie. Not really talked about much political.
Yeah. Every now and then he'd mentioned something that the boys had talked about on their blueco collar job when they crammed themselves into the car as bluecollar people tend to do. Just a
couple of bluecollar gays living together in Utah. It's like 98% Republican.
But we never talk politics. Never talk politics. Never talk gay stuff. I mean, may talked a little gay stuff, but not that gay politics.
Um, uh, usually if he did talk about politics stuff, it was uh relating to
Trump or current like policies being uh, again, I it feels like a cue happened
there. I want to go back and and let it just run in real time without the pause.
He doesn't talk about Charlie Kirk. He doesn't talk about LGBTQ stuff. He doesn't talk about politics. And then there's like a there's a sudden decision to change your mind.
All of a sudden, he does talk about Trump issues. So, did you ever talk about gender identity issues and LGBTQ rights?
Uh, no, not not really. Um uh usually if he did talk about politics
stuff, it was uh relating to Trump or current like policies being uh like
issued or voted voted on. I think I think
we were sold a different story.
We were sold a completely different story.
We we were told this was a political assassination and it was motivated by
the amount of hate Charlie Kirk had and he was so motivated by it he actually never talked about it.
He he was so motivated by it never came up and and he he the hate was was was about
uh trans rights or gay rights or something. But dog gone it, he never really talked about that either. I mean, occasionally he would talk about a particular policy that's being voted on.
I don't even talk about particular policies being voted on. And much to your guy's annoyance, sometimes you you text me on certain things that are being voted on. I'm like, "Yeah, we're not
really talking about that tonight."
[laughter]
Oh, that's fine, D. Don't worry about it. Um, but it's it's it's a uh it is not the story we're told. For example,
we were told he confessed to his parents and they turned him in. It was a key critical part of the narrative of Tyler Robinson did it. We told he's motivated
by hate. We didn't get any evidence of that. We didn't get any evidence his parents turned him in.
We were told he was motivated by uh this left-wing ideology, you know, this this gay trans stuff.
I have a I have some Daisy's good. She tracked him down on Reddit of all places.
And this is Lance on Reddit on a Jordan.
He's on a Jordan Peterson Reddit. This is subreddit. Jordan Peterson Lancelot three here talking.
People need to stop putting themselves in boxes because political parties don't care about any of their people. They just want money. Was five years ago.
I mean, does it sound again like a particularly political person? And if so, he's more
on the Jordan Peterson side. Um maybe we'll in the in the coming days, maybe we'll show you some more of his Reddit post. There are a lot of them. He was very active on Reddit.
uh talking about he's I mean appeared at least in my opinion to be a fan of Andrew Tate,
Jordan Peterson. Like these are not rabid leftwingers.
These are people that the rabid leftwingers hate. Even mainstream Republicans hate.
So is this consistent with what we were sold?
This is the openandsh case. No, it's not.
We got a we got a kid who can't even identify him until his lips stop moving and then they're like, "Oh yeah, that's definitely him. That's definitely him. I
swear that's 100% him."
Look, we may get to the end of this and maybe it'll be so obvious Tyler Robinson did it. Maybe it'll be one of those things where you just can't avoid that
reality and nobody would ever question that Tyler Robinson did this.
And if we get to that point, then your humble host will be the first one to get up here and be like, "That is an open-end shut case."
But anyone right now who's telling you it is an openand shut case is not being honest with you. Anyone telling you right now this is one of the clearest cut cases they've ever seen in criminal
law is not being honest with you. I saw someone today was like, you know, it doesn't have to be on camera in order to be a crime. Well, no, but you got to have some evidence.
All the evidence can't come through the the the roommate whose DNA is all over the crime scene. [laughter]
That's called reasonable doubt. The roommate, by the way, who doesn't have an alibi? His alibi is I was asleep.
Okay.
What else were you doing? Why weren't you working on a Wednesday, dude?
And why why is your roommate I mean I I'm sorry. I don't believe he was I I'll state it right now. I don't believe they were in a gay relationship. I just
don't. I think I think we were sold that as a motivating factor.
I don't believe I've seen no evidence of it. He doesn't look like it.
And when I say look like it, I don't mean that you like tell by looking at somebody, but he doesn't act like it. He doesn't he doesn't it doesn't support the narrative. They stayed in separate
bedrooms. They started out just as roommates. They he doesn't know where he works. He doesn't know what time he normally leaves or what he you know I think he might be in school or something. I don't know.
The kid was going like excited to go hunting with his dad. He'd been talking about it for months.
That's just not what we were sold.
And I think had Tyler died, we would have all believed it. I know. I think I would have
just all believed it. There might have been a few people that are around there like you take you back to 911.
I've come a long way on that.
But I remember for the first few years, at several years on 911, I would see someone say, you know, jet fuel can't melt steel beams. Stop be
like, "Oh god, here we go." Control demolition wasn't terrorist dancing Israelis. Oh, come on, guys.
This is so stupid. [clears throat] You know, but after a while, you kind of look at it, you're like, why were they dancing? [laughter] And
what happened to that company they owned? Why was it a fraud? Where'd they all go?
Why were they holding lighters up in front of the World Trade Center and taking pictures of themselves? That's a little weird. The whole thing's a little weird.
And now that I think about it, why did building 7 fall anyway? Like it took me like 10 years before I knew building 7 fell. I think it was in the 201s and someone said something about building
seven. I was like, "What are you talking about? What's building seven?" That was a red pill moment for me. Went back and watched the footage and I was like, "Oh, wait a minute. That they said on the
news that the building had fallen and it hadn't fallen yet and then it fell and it fell like that. It just fell in on itself. Why did anyone tell me it fell?"
We talked about the Pentagon that conveniently there's no pictures of anything striking. That we talked about the World Trade Center one and two. We
talked about Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where they didn't find much of a plane. Why is no one mentioned building seven?
It took me years to figure this out or to come around on the issue. I don't know that I figured it out, but I've I've at least evolved on the issue or devolved depending on your perspective.
And maybe years from now, I would have looked back and been like, that doesn't really look like a 30 odd six to the neck if I'm being honest.
But when Tyler Robinson turned himself in and the whole case started, in my opinion, falling apart, and they kept telling us, oh, his parents turned himself in, his parents
turned himself in, his parents turned himself in. And I knew people who personally had spoken to the family.
They're like, they're lying. We did not turn him in. Like, we might have driven him there, but we didn't tell him he did it because he didn't tell us he did it.
Now, I thought, wait a minute. Why are they telling us that he confessed to you if he didn't confess to you?
Why? Why? Why are we being told this?
And so, maybe we would have started to come around. Maybe. But I don't know.
I don't know that we would have.
And I think that was the plan. I think we saw plan B today.
Plan B was if the guy jumping off the roof hurt himself on his way down, he would be picked up by the white SUV and then they have to frame two pies. That
was plan B. I'm pretty confident on that now. There's no reason that car stopped, entered exactly as the shot took place.
shot came to a dead stop until the guy jumps off the roof and then turns and accelerates as soon as he sees he's fine.
There's no reason for that. And it and it happens to look awfully lot like the exact same car that had just pulled up to Tyler Robinson,
one of the Tylers uh as he was coming onto campus maybe earlier.
Looked like the same car to me. Why is this car hanging around this guy so much?
It's almost like he knew something was going to happen. And what's up with this gray GMC SUV that's following everywhere
that seems to be in the parking lot coming to a complete stop right as Tyler's pulling out right as an SUV pulls around behind him? And why did that SUV seem to wait until the the
white SUV why did it seem to wait until the gray SUV was in the parking lot before it circled around behind them so they could all leave together?
And why does that same gray SUV seem to be pulling up beside him out of the lane of traffic? It seems to be the
same car to me. It looks identical. How many of them can there be? It's not a late model car. It's a, you know, a couple of models ago. But why does it
look like it turns out of the lane of traffic when one of the Tylers is stopped there on the intersection waiting and it pulls up and it slows
down to almost a stop and then pulls back out into the lane of traffic and drives off. Were they talking to each other? Did they communicate in some way?
Did they make an eye, a hand signal, an eye signal? Did they make eye contact? We don't know.
And it was that the same gray SUV turning off of campus.
I I you know, that's the one that probably if I had to say any of those weren't the same car, I would say it's that one because that one would have been stuck
in traffic, I think, trying to get off of campus as that was happening. I don't think it could have gotten off of campus into that shopping center in the right time, but maybe. I don't know. I don't know exactly what time that was.
Actually, I could go back and figure out exactly.
Um, it was 17. No, it was after
the shot. That be 1250. No, it can't be the same SUV. Can't be in two places at once.
So, were there multiple Tylers walking around town? Were there multiple SUVs that were actually the same SUV that were pulling up next to the multiple Tylers?
Were there multiple Dodge Challengers?
Why didn't they tell us the license plates? Why are they giving us the descriptions of the
There's enough going on that you have to step back and evaluate the full court press being put on this
case by people who are trying to convince you it was Tyler Robinson alone.
Why not just let the court case play out? Why not ask the questions we're asking what I think are pretty obvious questions?
If he's motivated by politics, why did they never talk about politics? If he wanted to kill Charlie Kirk, why did they never talk about Charlie Kirk?
If he says he didn't contact him till 11, why is there a text message from him at ? Why wasn't he at work that day?
I mean, I think these are legitimate questions.
I don't think these are crazy questions to start asking.
Um, all right. Let me do this. Uh, I'm going to run through some questions. I'm going to get to as some of your comments.