Judge HANDS Trump MAJOR LOSS on GOVT FREEZE: Federal judge just ordered that Donald Trump's spending freeze be blocked until Monday February 3rd at 5:00 pm
by Ben Meiselas and Harry Litman
MeidasTouch
Jan 28, 2025
MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas and Talking Feds host Harry Litman report on the new order by a Washington DC federal judge temporarily blocking Trump’s attempt to freeze all federal funding.
Transcript
this just in a federal judge just
ordered that Donald Trump's spending
freeze be blocked until Monday February
3rd at 5:00 pm overruling the department
of Justice's claim that the federal
judge had no authority to intervene this
is being reported by uh Politico by Kyle
chenny also um we're aware of what went
down at that hearing so here's what went
down just so everybody remembers the
Office of Management budget um even
though they still have an interim head
that Russ Vought the author of project
2025 he hasn't even been sworn in yet
but he's got his fingerprints all in
this the interim heads are basically all
reporting to him anyway they're
implementing their project 2025 agenda
and they basically ordered a spending
freeze across all of the spending all of
the money the federal government gives
out with two exceptions that were
actually flagged was for Social Security
and Medicare but there was no reference
to Medicaid there was no reference to
snap there was no reference to things
like Suicide Hotline for veterans there
was no reference made to just all of the
type of federal funding that is utilized
by people every day to to live I mean
we're talking about child care Head
Start Home Care school lunch Medicare
pel Grant loans veteran Healthcare
veteran loans funds for suicide
prevention homeless shelter support and
more but Harry these groups came in
there was a few uh civil rights related
groups the National Council of
nonprofits American Public Health
Association organization called sage
they filed this
emergency uh injunctive request asking
that this federal judge just press pause
Trump's doj despite these initiatives
being massively unpopular they swoop
into court and they're like nah we want
this we don't care if Americans are
going to suffer and these groups that
are suing they shouldn't even be allowed
in court they have no standing to be
here which is also kind of part of a
delay tactic for uh for for Trump to for
Trump's doj to make saying until we can
determine through Discovery or other
means that these parties should even be
here there should not be a pause at all
the federal judge was like look there's
a lot going on here people could be
dying people's rights are on the line so
we're just GNA pause everything until
Monday I want more briefing but next
Monday we'll sort through this so Harry
what do you make of first this sweeping
order um where now before we were
talking about all federal foreign a was
removed now all domestic uh Aid is done
the response to it and what do you
expect to happen
next okay so everything you say that
list and then more the federal
government has its fingers everywhere
and and provides necessary help
everywhere you know HIV wasn't on there
but all kind all kinds of help with that
sort everything is choked off uh as calm
as you hear me trying to uh keep my
voice that is how
incredibly dangerous and vicious and
indifferent Trump uh is in this order
and just as you say I'll get to the law
in a minute but you make the right point
we are it's it's just a
completely nasty assault on so many
aspects of the federal government that
people rely on day-to-day people could
die here and people will clearly suffer
moreover it is there's a reason that the
judge and little aside is the judge from
is from the DC district court so one of
the members of the Court he's going to
have to go to them all the time whom he
totally kicked in the face by granting
all these Pardons and they've all said
so that's they start with very little
credibility but of course Trump now is
going to do this and Marshall the entire
resources of the federal government the
doj he doesn't care and if he loses a
few he still doesn't care what's the uh
possible well let me take it from the
other side can you do something like
this you cannot it seems clear to me but
we've never ever faced anything close to
it but we are back in the sort of third
grade world that uh Trump paid somebody
to go attend for him where the congress
makes the laws the executive executes
the laws and this is the legal area here
Ben is called impoundment and it's
pretty well recognized that maybe the
executive at the margins can withhold or
delay a little bit but this is the same
as just negating the law that Congress
passed and it passed for the executive
whether it's Biden or Trump or whoever
if if JD Vance and Trump both die it's
the speaker of the house it doesn't
matter this is a command under the the
core article one powers of the Congress
saying here's some money spend it on
this and for him to come in and say no
I'm not going on to and not with any kind
of specific constitutional objection
there's a really ridiculous Little
two-page memo that just says we really
want to evaluate if this is in the
interest of the American people you know
Excuse excuse me but you the
Congress has decided this people are
waiting in for this by the hour and the
day so it's not just the breathtaking uh
lawlessness of it but the the the
cruelty and indifference of it what is
going to happen I do think we've never
faced it before but any there the no
less than the office of legal counsel a
very Pro executive power group has said
you can't do this not this kind of crazy
impoundment the doj is going to continue
to press the standing claim
and especially as you get higher up and
you have to imagine this goes to the US
Supreme Court is there the possibility
that the court some members of it
certainly will say oh this is terrible
but sorry wrong plaintiff something like
that that's something we'll have to look
at otherwise one would say confidently
this cannot stand and my you know in
general we you and I have talked about
this before with Birthright citizenship
we don't you can't have a lot of
confidence in the US Supreme Court and
just their existence and their previous
actions are a terrible sort of wild card
here but to my mind Ben this is so out
there so basic basic violation of
separation of powers and what Congress
does and versus what the executive is
permitted to do that unless they try
some
bogus crap with standing and you got to
imagine there's two or three ready to do
it the US Supreme Court will in fact
strike this down so I think what happens
soon they have the hearing this judge on
the DC District Court extends the stay
and they go the hearing will be on a per
on a more a permanent injunction while
they try this they'll be able to appeal
the permanent Junction it'll go through
the DC circuit and up to the Supreme
Court and still on the question do we
enjoy the whole thing and given the
balance of the irreparable harm that's
going to it's already happening and the
balance of equities all of that you have
to imagine that they will unless the
Supreme Court gets uh funny with
standing law but this I'll I'll end
where I started man oh man oh man this
is it it's not it's no longer a break
glass moment uh the fire has started no
Harry the plaintiffs are going to cure
the standing issue to the extent there
is a defect I don't know with these
specific groups yeah the specific
traceable injury such that they're
saying that they have this injury in
fact to make their standing claim they
appear to be different civil rights and
nonprofit organizations I'm assuming one
of them gets some sort of federal
funding but if they don't what what
won't happen is they're not just going
to go to next Monday and not address
that and Dot that eye and cross the te
so what I expect will happen as well
whether there's a bunch of other
lawsuits that are going to be filed by
States and then underneath the states
various other groups that are being
impacted by this and then joined in the
DC Case by the time Monday rolls around
standing won't be the issue there will
be a party that was injured I give these
organizations I almost regardless of me
fully analyzing the specific standing
claim which may need to be drawn out in
Discovery they got that lawsuit quickly
and they saved lives those groups that's
right right right now people are getting
much needed you know mother's milk from
the federal government which really is
their due it's why we have a government
and this jerk is trying to just shut it
down and I I I think your point is um
very well taken look in general the the
court tends to shy away from what it
thinks of as ideological Generalalized
grievances this couldn't be less that
case we're talking about money necessary
money flowing every day every week every
month that's now been cut off so as you
say there are scores countless people
who are
injured the the minute this would go
into effect Harry Litman thanks for
breaking that down we were right there
on top of that issue first thing when
that Office of Management and budget uh
memo was sent we did a video on it it's
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he knows this stuff he clerked before
two supreme Court Justices you're going
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substack YouTube and podcast thanks
Harry
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STUNNING ADMISSION made at Trump Presser on GOVT FREEZE: Medicaid portals and payment systems are down in all 50 states
by Ben Meiselas
MeidasTouch
Jan 28, 2025
MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on the implications of Donald Trump’s funding freeze and the response by his Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt.
[Reporter] Just clarify for a sec what you were
saying before on Medicaid it wasn't
clear to me whether you were saying that
no Medicaid would be cut off obviously a
lot of this goes to States before it
goes to individuals and so forth so are
you guaranteeing here that no individual
now on Medicaid would see a cut off
because of the PA ?
[Karoline Leavitt] I'll check back on
that and get back to you John
[Ben Meiselas] Well I've
checked on it for you Karoline Leavitt
press secretary to Donald Trump and we
can confirm that in all 50 states
following Donald Trump's Federal funding
freeze that Medicaid portals and payment
systems are down throwing Medicaid into
complete and utter disarray I have many
friends that I'm aware of right now who
have said they don't know if they will
be able to have their procedures which
are coming up very soon and they are
crying right now as a result of this
horrible horrible thing that Donald
Trump just did how cruel and fashion can
you get Donald Trump issued a federal
funding freeze which as a result of it
shut down the Medicaid portals and
payment systems in 50 States this from
Chris Murphy uh Democratic senator can
confirm Connecticut's Medicaid payment
system has been turned off doctors and
hospitals cannot get paid in all 50
states discussions ongoing about whether
Services can continue Medicaid covers
Health Care for millions of seniors and
covers 40% of births in America
Democratic senator Brian shots says
multiple States locked out of Medicaid
portal this is a trump shutdown except
this time it's unlawful Democrats in
both the Senate and the house who are
involved in the
Appropriations sent the following letter
to the Office of Management budget which
will be led by Russ Vought the author of
project
2025 all of this stuff is in Project
2025 that's what they said they were
going to do it's called impoundment
Donald Trump wants to impound all of the
federal funds Remember When Donald Trump
said he wants to be a dictator on day
one this is it so all of these funds
have already been prescribed by
legislation to go to various agencies to
go to various states to go to various
Grant programs which then are delivered
to the people Trump is trying to seize
all of that so that he has all of the
money that's called impoundment there is
a law that says presidents can't impound
the power of the purse belongs to
Congress but I'm sure the Maga
Republicans in the house of
representatives and the Senate don't
care that they're a co-equal branch cuz
they're okay with dictatorship here's
what the letter says from Democrats to
the Office of Management and budget the
scope of what you're ordering by this
Federal funding freeze is breathtaking
unprecedented and will have devastating
consequences across the country we write
today to urge you in the strongest
possible terms to uphold the law and the
Constitution and ensure all federal
resources are delivered in accordance
with the law this was signed by Senator
Murray and representative De Loro just
so you see here was the memorandum which
appeared to suggest basically all
federal assistance gets Frozen all
federal assistance gets Frozen and uh
Donald Trump and his administration say
well it doesn't apply to Social Security
and Medicare well what about Medicaid
what about snap what about all of these
other programs as Christopher hell
writes Tennessee the state that deliver
Trump his largest raw vote margin of
Victory Nationwide well they're poised
to lose about $5 billion in in federal
grants and Loans democratic
congresswoman Kathleen Clark goes
already community health centers and
Head Start programs in Massachusetts and
across the country can't access money
the Medicaid payment systems are shut
down Trump is robbing teachers and
nurses of their hard-earned
paychecks Senator Martin Hinrich goes
now Trump is blocking New Mexico's
access to the Medicaid portal this won't
just hurt 74,000 New Mexicans on
Medicaid it threatens to shut down our
entire Health Care System I'm calling on
Trump to undo this chaos immediately
Travis Matthews goes just so we're all
clear Trump is cutting off snap
supplemental nutrition assistance
program and free lunches for children
Trump's also cutting off Medicaid to all
lowincome households so now only are we
forcing lowincome families in America to
go hungry we're also cutting off their
health care did I miss anything this is
from the Nevada attorney general our
office is aware of trump administrations
intent to inhalt federal assistance
programs any pause to critical funding
will harm nevadans weaken Public Safety
and negatively affect programs like
Medicaid and snap we're prepared to
fight against this ill-conceived idea
Congress member Maxwell Frost in Florida
just confirmed that the Trump
Administration shut down the Medicaid
portal for Florida there were over 3.8
million Floridians on Medicaid this fact
post news I think says it well so Will
trump let 72 million Americans on
Medicaid go without access to lifesaving
critical care Will trump let seniors
waiting for Meals on Wheels go hungry
Will trump leave veterans without a roof
over their head Will trump let 41
million families that rely on food
stamps go hungry Will trump gut cancer
research programs rolling back years of
efforts to help save the lives of
millions of Americans Will trump leave
pregnant mothers and newborns without
critical nutrition assistance Will trump
leave millions of Americans suffering
from natural disasters without relief
will Trump leave children who rely on
the Head Start program without critical
Early Education programs because this
Federal funding frees and Trump's other
executive orders do just that folks
we're learning now that a litigation was
just brought by nonprofits and public
health groups in Washington DC to
challenge Donald Trump's federal aid
free this lawsuit was just filed by a
coalition of nonprofits and public
health advocates asking a federal judge
for an emergency order to block Donald
Trump from imposing a sweeping plan to
Halt all federal aid programs quote
given the few hours that remain before
Federal grantees are thrown into
disarray thrown on the street thrown
without getting the surgeries and
procedures they need to live plaintiffs
file this complaint and seek a temporary
restraining order to maintain the status
quo until the court has an opportunity
to more fully consider the illegality of
trump administration's actions and by
the way it's already thrown it into
disarray because all of these Medicaid
portals have now been shut down people
can't access it people are in trauma
right now as a result of Donald Trump's
actions but what are they doing on Trump
propaganda networks I'm not making this
up folks they are eating tacos while
they are mocking people who are are
being rounded up and deported and
they're saying to themselves this Taco
is yummy I'm feeling very good today
this is what trumps propaganda TV this
is Maga this is their cruelty here let
me show it to you let's play this
clip what you going to do you come take
it out of my hand I'm going to eat half
this plate during the break maybe I'll
call the ice hotline I don't know if
I'll have enough time sure all kidding
aside this is actually really good
taco these people broke the law they
broke the law to get here folks here is
what Democratic senator Patty Murray had
to say moments ago let's play it in a
Brazen and illegal move the Trump
Administration is working to freeze huge
amounts of federal funding passed into
law by Republicans and Democrats alike
the scope of this illegal action is
unprecedented and could have devastating
consequences across the country for real
people we could see a screeching halt to
resources for child care cancer research
housing police officers opioid addiction
treatment rebuilding roads and bridges
and even disaster relief efforts he was
just in California to witness the
devastation and now he is holding back
that Aid Trump's actions would reh havoc
in red and blue communities everywhere
this is funding that communities are
expecting and this memo is creating
chaos and confusion about whether these
resources will be available to them
entire budgets and payrolls across the
country are carefully hinging on these
resources we are talking about our small
towns our cities our school districts
our universities and a lot more this
illegal move is a massive massive
overreach by the Trump Administration
the American people did not vote for
this kind of Senseless chaos and folks
here is what Democratic senator Chris
Murphy had to say moments ago let's play
it so last night Donald Trump announced
that he was going to implement a shut
off to virtually all federal funding in
this country let me tell you why that
really matters first it matters to you
and your family and your community that
means that police officers don't get
Federal funding that means firefighters
don't get Federal funding that means
your school schools that your kids go to
don't get their Federal funding that
means nursing homes are shut off from
funding this is an immediate crisis for
our kids for public safety for our
seniors for our Health Care system and
why because Donald Trump is trying to
seize power that is what is happening
take together everything that has
happened in the first week and
understand it as part of the same story
first the immunization of political
violence if you commit violence in my
name then you will be excused and let
off the hook the firing of all of the
inspector generals that sit inside these
agencies to make sure that your money
taxpayer money isn't being stolen from
you and now the decision by Donald Trump
to shut down all federal money except
the money he wants to spend and guess
where Donald Trump is going to decide to
unfreeze federal grants to the companies
run by his billionaire friends to the
states and congressional districts run
by members of Congress or Governors that
are loyal to him all of a sudden we
transition from a democracy to a
monarchy because that's what a king does
uses the money in the treasury to reward
his friends and to punish his
enemies that is what Donald Trump
announced last night that he alone not
the voters not members of Congress will
decide who gets money what schools get
funded what hospitals stay open and
nobody else that's not democracy yes the
funding freeze is going to make life
miserable for regular people but we are
also confronting a constitutional crisis
that requires all of us Democrats the
media
Republicans the American people to rise
to this moment well there you have it
folks we'll keep you posted with all of
the uh information as it's coming in a
lot of breaking news Donald Trump just
stomping on the hopes and dreams and
health whether you're in a red state or
a blue State Donald Trump just gave you
the middle finger and said remember
those oligarchs yeah I am cutting your
programs red state blue States Democrat
Republicans unless you're a billionaire
we're going to take what you have and
we're going to give it to the
billionaires pathetic