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Okay, so Okay, let's just set this in time and place.
The feds... basically Protecting Jeffrey Epstein... in 2007 ish
that's the Bush administration. And it clearly this is a very high profile thing.
It was in the papers... DOJ, this is their, you know, Acosta is a U.S. attorney.
He's the federal prosecutor in Southern District of Florida. Correct. So... what does DOJ think of this?
Like, why are they involved in it? I mean, involved in like the cover... up?
I think, you know, that's, that's the interesting question. I go back to the question I asked earlier. Like...
a U.S. attorney is pretty high up. You know, he's running the Southern District of Florida's U.S. attorney's office. That guy,
there's not that many people above his head. You can tell him to drop a case like this. I mean, you got to think about it like this too.
I mean, this is a career case for a prosecutor like Acosta. I mean, you're going to be Attorney General behind this
case someday. You know, you talk billionaire playboy putting him away for his entire life because he's sexually abusing
underage girls for years and years. I mean, you're gonna, this makes your whole career. And so to drop that,
there's only a couple people and a couple reasons that somebody like him would agree, would agree to do that. You know, and, and
there are people whose names we've all heard probably, you know, I think Alberto, was it Gonzalez, who was Attorney General at the time.
And I mean, it's only a few people who could do that. You know, one of the things might add something to do with it is
in when, before Jeffrey Epstein was sentenced, for whatever reason, you have this billionaire who's just the definition of a flight risk.
They don't take his passport away. And before he's sentenced, he, he goes, he flees, he flees the country, goes to Israel,
stays there for several months, moved all his money offshore by this point, and while he's in Israel, he,
he's, he's telling people there that he's thinking about staying because you can actually, you can actually do that.
They don't extradite, you know, Jewish criminals at least who, who flee to Israel. There's a,
there's an organization called Jewish Community Watch, which is a Jewish organization that tracks
pedophiles who have fled the United States to go to Israel, where there's no, no extradition of Jewish criminals there.
And between just the years, I think it was 2010 when they started, when they opened up in 2016, 2017,
when this story was written, so a period of six years, there were already 60 pedophiles from the United States that had fled to
Israel and were living freely there. Some of them had reoffended there and got thrown in Israeli jails. But
it, so this is a thing, you know, and Jeffrey Epstein was over there why Doesn't the US Government demand... the government
of Israel send them back? I, I mean.
you've been self employed for a while, but when you weren't, was it your habit to go to your boss and make demands of them on a regular basis?
I don't know. I mean, since when do we ever make demands on Israel? It's been a long time. I don't, I don't know. But I, I,
you know, that's obviously distressing. So, okay, so there's clearly a cover up at the very beginning.
And I just want to say, again, I think that's one, not the totality of, but one of the reasons we don't have this information now is
because DOJ doesn't have the info. Can I tie up that last point real quick just a second? So
him being in Israel and at least having the threat of staying there, you know, that may have played a role in him cutting his deal because
that's when his deal, he's already been charged at this point, he's awaiting sentencing, he's been convicted? and they don't take his passport
and he. wait he's been convicted. And he leaves the country. Correct. And
his plea deal or. Well, so. No, no, let me back that up. His plea deal
was negotiated while he was out of the country because he didn't fight the, he didn't fight the charges.
It wasn't, it didn't go to, you know, go to trial, to a jury trial or anything... He was out of the country and his lawyers could credibly go to the DOJ
Say that is special treatment. Did any of the J6 defendants get treatment? No, I don't think so. That's what's infuriating about all this.
Leaving aside, you know, a lot of other elements that are upsetting, but the most infuriating is just the...
two tiers or multi tier system of justice. This is something that people I think have not, maybe even at the highest levels. When I read
President Trump's true socials about it, things like that, that people are just, they don't seem to be understanding
is this isn't about some guy that sexually assaulted a bunch of girls like Jeffrey Epstein, for better or for worse.
has become a proxy for other things. You know, can I interrupt you to... say, our
faithful and gifted researcher has just held up a note saying... ACOSTA apparently Alex Acosta...
has said, and this is... different from what I described. that he never said...
that Epstein was, was connected to intelligence. So that is not my understanding. So he was asked about it at a press conference and he
essentially refused to answer... He said, you know, that's, he said, I wouldn't take those media reports at face value.
And beyond that, Department of Justice policy, you know, kind of forbids me from going any further into that. And then there was another, there was an ABC News report.
And this is kind of an example of how this stuff gets out into the public mind. There was an abc. Yeah, it was ABC News report
was talking about his DOJ deal back then. And. and they said that
in the story, they said that the DOJ had, had stated that he had no connections to intelligence.
But when you actually go read the documents, that's not what was asked at all. The question was not whether he had any connections to intelligence.
The question was whether he was given leniency because of cooperation that he was giving to the FBI and DOJ
on cases related to Bear Stearns. And they said no to that. And it got written up in... the news as
him saying he had no connection to the intelligence community, which is not true. The lying is like overwhelming.
Yeah. And so just so everybody understands here, I mean this is a guy
who again, over 40 on the record witnesses, most of them underage, corroborating each other's stories independently of this guy sexually
assaulting underage girls for years. He gets this non prosecution agreement with
the federal government... in perpetuity. Him and all of his accomplices known and unknown for crimes,
known and unknown. And it gets sent down to the state level and he agrees to a two year term
in, down there in southern Florida. Not at, not in a federal prison, not in a state prison,
at the county jail where he has. It sounds like I'm making this up. I'm not... He has his own wing
of the jail to himself. His cell door remains open. He gets out on work release...
for 12 hours a day, six days a week. accompanied only by security that he pays the salary of.
He only has to stay the night there six days a week and then spend one day a week there in the jail. So, you know,
so it's like the National Guard. Yeah. And again, you're not talking about a guy who got busted embezzling funds,
you know, you're talking about a guy who got busted doing the thing that if you were to poll
every American, I believe, and ask them what's the worst thing what is the worst thing that anybody can do that you would,
you know, you're against the death penalty that you might make an exception for? It's molesting little children. You know,
everybody kind of agrees that that is the red line. Everybody feels that way, that I know that you know, that everybody listening to this knows...
And so you ask, like, what are the possible reasons that could be big enough and important enough
that they would let a guy like this have a. I mean, it's insulting to the investigators, to the police,
to the prosecutors to give a guy a deal like that, you know. And can I say one thing that has always struck me about this case
and why I think it's like revealing of the entire power structure in the United States.
Epstein. And there was testimony from... public testimony... from women who lived with Epstein to this effect.
His contempt for Americans, sort of normal middle class, working class Americans.
He did not see them as fully human. He didn't and at all. So it's like molesting,
you know, a high school girl... from housing development or a trailer park in South Florida doesn't really count
as molestings because she's a pro . Like, who cares?.. And that attitude suffuses our leadership class.
Like that is their answer. 100,000 people die of fentanyl ODs. Yeah, but I mean, people,
you know what I mean? Like, it's sad, but it's not an emergency because. Because they're like people you would never meet and you don't really care about
is building their dollar store in their town and like nobody cares about them... He really had that attitude, but that's the attitude they all have.
He had justification for having that attitude in terms of his, the impunity with which he operated. And this is actually something...
I was hoping we would get to because all this stuff is super intelligent, interesting and important, all the intelligent stuff and everything.
And if you want like, like all the deep, deep, deep detail on that stuff, I did a six hour long podcast series on it.
Guys like Mike Benz, Ryan Dawson's one of the chief researchers who's really done a lot of the work that people who write books about the nation being
under blackmail and so forth, like, crib this guy's research without crediting him, you know. but.
And I'm gonna, I'm actually gonna interview him next week just to go really deep on a lot of the,
a lot of the, the stuff that we're not able to get here to here tonight.
you know, the thing I want to, I really want to Kind of maybe the question that...
I want to leave people with as we get into the last part of this conversation. You say that like, so when Epstein was, was convicted
in 2000, that, that the, the 2000s case, this was in the newspapers. This was not something, you know, you might,
if you were watching the football game, you might not have ever heard about it, but if you were... a wealthy person...
in Washington D.C. or New York City or West Palm Beach, Florida, you knew who Jeffrey Epstein was and you knew...
what had happened to him and you knew what he had done. His private plane... was nicknamed the Lolita Express.
Lolita is a novel written by Nabokov about a guy, based on a true story, actually about a guy who takes a 12 year old girl,
kidnaps her and takes her on a kind of odyssey across the country, raping her over the course of those two years.
It's a novel about child molestation. It's a novel about child molestation. And his airplane was nicknamed the Lolita Express.
It was not given that nickname by him, it was given that nickname by other people. Other people
knew who this guy was. They knew what he was doing... And so the question then that I really had to wrestle with for a long time,
and I have an answer that satisfies me... now and it relates to what you were. The point you were just making about our ruling class.
You know, if, if Tucker, if I. If literally any one of my male friends or family members,
any of. if we got invited to go somewhere on some dude's plane
and you walk onto that plane and... as soon as you get... in the air, five or six underage girls who are not related to him come out in their
underwear and start offering massages. My responses to that are gonna vary between,
like, which level of criminal... action am I gonna take against this guy? Am I gonna beat him senseless?
Am I gonna throw him out of this flying plane? You know, those are basically the range of outcomes in that situation.
And that's true for... almost everybody... That almost everybody watching this knows. And so regular people hear about this now.
They almost have trouble believing that it's possible because they don't know anybody who would have such a cavalier reaction.
They don't know anybody who would. Oh, I know a lot of people, so. So yeah,
that's why I think it's important to go over. And I don't want to get into like the conspiracy theory side of this stuff that,
that's not as important to me, honestly. But I'm sure you need to. I think we've progressed We've been here an hour and 57 minutes and I think that
from what I can tell, I'm sort of familiar, not with a lot of what you said, but the framework I get.
I don't think you've said anything that's speculative, have you? I've tried not to. Okay, so the story
just... based on available facts, which are a minority of all facts about it, but just what we have, it's like
it's a true indictment. You remember back when the Podesta emails came out and the whole Pizzagate thing
took over the Internet for a while, you know, every dark corner, the Reddit and everything else was all this,
this satanic pedophile conspiracy, you know, etc, called Pizzagate. Again, I'm not going to get into the conspiracy theory itself.
I'm just going to use it to raise a larger point about what we're talking about here. The interesting thing to me about that whole saga
was not the idea that there's some big crazy conspiracy involving the. Just any of that stuff. That's just whatever. That's what the Internet does with information like that.
The interesting thing to me was... the things that were just 100 percent fact, the bits and pieces of the story that they were using
to construct that narrative, the pieces themselves are really interesting... One of the first things that came up
is people started digging into those on Reddit and everywhere else and really going into it. One of the things is everybody remembers hearing about spirit cooking.
You know, the performance artist Marina Abramovic did this event that the Podestas were invited to and apparently enjoyed
very much called spirit cooking. And what, pray tell, is spirit cooking? Tucker? It... It was a performance...
art piece, a dinner event where the attendees would go and
sit in rooms with... white walls and eat meals off of mock corpses in tubs of blood with
weird creepy messages about cutting the finger on your left hand and eating the pain and
drinking fresh breast milk with fresh sperm milk on earthquake nights. All these crazy edgelord art school,
you know, things that are kind of just embarrassing, but, you know, these weird cryptic sayings written in goat's blood on the walls.
In one room, there's an effigy of an infant with a bucket of goats and... blood thrown all over it.
There's another room where there's a bunch of shelves with little figures... put in positions of various positions of copulation.
You know, there's photos from these events that Abramovich would put on. You know,
Lady Gaga's there eating off of one of these mock corpses. Gwen Stefani's at one of them. And, you know, they're there at these places where.
you know, forget about, you know, people want to say, oh, this is a satanic ritual. Forget about all that. Forget about all that.
Just think about, like, if this was your friend or your brother, your sister, and they went to this thing, you be, or they brought you to this thing,
you'd be like. what are we doing here? What is this? Exactly. Right. And so the next thing came out.
Wouldn't you run immediately? again, You would. I would. Everybody we know would.
And Tony and Heather Podesta went to this Well, I don't know if Heather did or not, but he and John did.
And so Tony's a, a big art collector. Okay. No, I'm aware. Yeah, I knew his wife.
Yeah. And his, his art collection became a big part of the whole pizza gate. This is like right in my neighborhood, by the way, where I live.
So, so weird. You know, Tony Podesta's taste in art became a big part of that whole Pizzagate story.
And it's one of those things that, again, when you, when you have gaps to fill in a story and just pieces of information,
you're not getting any explanations from anybody that make any sense, explaining it to you in a way that's plausible...
That's how conspiracy theories grow like mold. If something like that is going on in your city, if like some of the most powerful people in your city are participating
in something like that, I don't need to know anymore. I literally don't need to know anymore. Like, that's just...
I told you earlier that I, I made the point of going and buying the copy of Architectural
Digest in Washington, Life magazine that profiled his apartment and his art collection.
And on the walls in the photographs in these magazines, okay.
there's a lot of different art there, but like the most prominent ones that are, one's a mural size centerpiece of a room.
The others are poster size, like big, important, prominent pieces that he's got out for everybody to see
are by a Serbian artist named Billiana Djurjevic. And they're part of a series of paintings that,
according to the artist's... own interviews, are based on explorations of child molestation,
sexual assault, and just childhood trauma and abuse in general. And it is, you know.
there are a lot of paintings in the series, but the ones that show up in the magazine piece, for example, one,
the great big mural one, is a bunch of young girls, they look like maybe teenagers, 12 year olds or something,
who are lying in a circle it's called Synchronized Swimming is the name of the painting lying in a circle
in, at the bottom of like a, like a tiled room or something. And they all have this spaced out, kind of dead...
drugged out look in their eyes and some of them have black eyes and they're just playing there. And so I don't want to be
Ruled by people like this. Well, so let me just keep this get so much worse. Oh, you're upsetting me because I lived in this world for so long and I
intentionally ignored this and I. But now that you are describing it, I'm like, I can't even believe I was in the same...
county as people like that. I would look if I was, if I was into
art that featured tied up pubescent, pre pubescent children in their underwear by an artist...
that, that says this is all about... child sexual assaults. What this series of pain of paintings is about.
If I was into that. I would at least take it all down. Before company came over...
These were rooms that he threw his parties in, he invited people over to. I would definitely take them down before architectural digestion.
But if you were into them like being, just be clear. Being into something like that... means that you are on an evil path.
That's, that's evil. I don't know what to say. Like, like an image like that. It's, it's also obvious now that I have distance from it.
There's. He was asked in an interview... about some of his favorite artists. One of them that he,
he listed was a woman named Patricia Piccinini who does, I guess sculptures, you would say, I don't know if they're clay sculptures, whatever, but.
And they're That's bad. really grotesque images of you know, a small girl standing up on her bed,
maybe five years old with this demon thing with its claws around her, kind of leering at her...
There's one with this sort of weird pig monster spooning this little boy in his bed with pustules on its back.
There's a lot of... mouths that look like sphincters and vaginas and the kids are playing with them.
It's all very suggestive, weird surrealist horror movie kind of sexually tint... slanted stuff...
Listed her as one of his favorite artists. Another one that he listed was a woman named Kim Noble.
And I'll stop. can I tell you, You're upsetting me. And because you're describing Tony Podesta who is the,
you know, brother of the former White House chief of staff, two time chief of staff John Podesta.
But Tony Podesta is the most powerful Democratic lobbyist in Washington. This is not some fringe character. It's not a homeless guy,
not even some like, eccentric rich guy. This is a person who's at the center... of the Democratic establishment for decades,
for my whole life there. And his wife is, you know, they've since divorced, but she's like.
I mean, look, pull up a picture of those two on Google and just look at it and ask yourself, is that
like, how brainwashed would you have to be not to see there's something really wrong there? Really wrong. Like deep learning, spiritually wrong?
I'm not trying to be judgmental or cruel. I'm just, I don't understand how that could exist at the very center of power in Washington D.C.
that's like a. I just feel it so deeply. Well, this gets to the, to the question that we're trying to answer here.
Like, so another artist that he named is one of his favorites was a British woman named Kim Noble. And
I don't think I could pull it up on my phone and show that to the audience right now without
getting this video banned. Kim Noble was a woman who was violently, sexually assaulted...
countless times between the ages of 1 and 3. It... shattered her mind. She has dissociative identity disorder,
what we used to call multiple personality disorder. And several of these personalities are
artists. And they, the, the art is something that like a four or five year old would do. It's scribbled stick figures and everything...
But it is the most grotesque depictions of adults sexually abusing children that you can think of.
However bad you think it is, it's worse. And so, and this was another woman that, that, that was named as a, that he was a fan of.
And so I just think to myself of this millionaire lobbyist... in D.C. and his friends, the biggest Democratic lobbyist,
saying, you know, what do you think about the artist Kim Noble? It's like, oh, I think the, you know,
the image with the demon having the little girl feeling her while another demon urinates on her is just fascinating in its use of color.
I mean. it's what you just. Who are these people? Well, so that's what I didn't understand.
So I at the time, living near the, in the middle of all this, I lived right down the road from Comet Pizza.
I knew David Brock and James Elephantis, and I'm not well, but like, like they're in the. I disapproved...
They're liberals, they're Democrats, whatever. I'm not gonna have dinner with them. But I assumed the art stuff, and I knew the Podestas,
I assumed that was just like, douchey, pretentious... They're like townies. They don't, you know, they made all this money,
they're pretending to be sophisticated. They're. They have terrible taste. Of course, this is like my thinking, my, I'll just admit it,
kind of snobbish view of it. I didn't or couldn't or refused to or whatever,
face the obvious reality that's just hitting me right now right in the face, hard.
That's evil. That's just evil... And what I thought was gauche is satanic in a.
Strictly speaking, I mean, whether they're like, you know, part of some organized Church of Satan or whatever,
I don't even know if that exists... in real life. But certainly obedience to Satan exists, and that's what that is.
And And maybe just as interesting, because that's just one person. There's a lot of people who have strange proclivities and weird interests.
Right, Fine. But he's at the center of the city. A, he's at the center of power, but B, again.
what is the culture of this place... that he would feel comfortable inviting magazine photographers over to take pictures,
to take photographs of the paintings he puts in his rooms of. There's one of the paintings that he has by Billianajer Javisc that is just,
just unmistakably two dead little girls lying on their backs in like a pond or a lake or something...
Just no question that that's what it is. It's in the magazine... And so, by the way, people are. They.
I, I may be misremembering this. And don't, don't sue me, Heather Podesta, if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Heather Podesta told me
to my face that they had another... house just for the art. I think he supposedly owns 5, 000 pieces of art. Something.
Okay, so, but that means, like, okay, so why do you have a house? So you can invite people over. So that's like my neighbors. I never went,
but I was never invited. But that means, like, a lot of people I know... went over to the Podesta's house and saw...
paintings of demons having sex with dead children or whatever. I can't even put that into my head.
And they're like, yeah, they're kind of, kind of far out, kind of funky, you know, they're sort of edgy. The Podestas, it's like, yeah,
check yourself, dude. This Is hell. When you ask the question of how is it? Right? And this is something that ordinary people really need to understand
because this is not the first ruling class that this has happened to. No, no... this is happen to ruling classes throughout the world,
throughout history. This is Weimar, Caligula, yes. It's the British gentry in the late 18, early 1900s when they're all into Alice
Crowley and all that 100 percent its White mischief in Nairobi in 1925. This is late empire. And so.
I agree you know, the fact that, you know, we asked the question, how is it that every single person I know that,
you know, that everybody listening to this knows and allows into their life would run screaming off of that airplane when six underage girls
in their underwear come out, the answer is, well, if you just came from a spirit cooking dinner and followed up by a party at Tony
Podesta's house where there's pictures of tied up dead 8 year olds all over the wall
and then you go onto that plane. you know. I can, I can vouch, I can vouch for that. I just,
I never went on the plane, I never went to the Podesta's house, but boy, did I live in a world of people who did.
And... not one time in 35 years in D.C. did anybody say, holy shit, I was at Tony's house last night.
You should see what's in there. They were like, oh, it's douchey. I mean, look, you would get kicked off of a local school board for having
pictures of tied up dead 8 year olds on your wall. And so if you were gonna, so. also What'S happening to your society?
This is the seat of power. Like its values flow downward. It's like it's the top of the pyramid. There's some freak down the block who's just into weird...
stuff, whatever. You might tell your kids to avoid that house and everything, but fine, this is America. We interpret. At least until Israel attacked Gaza.
We interpreted the First Amendment pretty broadly. Things like that, Most people still do. Fine.
I'm maybe not calling for that guy's arrest or anything. You can go be a freak in his own house. but...
you're not... participating in the conversation or in the decision making process of whether we do gender reassignment surgeries on 8 year olds.
When you have pictures of dead tied up 8 year olds on your wall. And I think most ordinary people, and I think people who are in the Washington world and in a
lot of these elite circles, they just don't get how this looks to the rest of the of the country Well, it's not just how it looks, it's how it is...
And, you know, that... kind of... thinking allows you to kill a lot of people, which they do.
And so they have these conversations about we need to do this or do that. What you really mean is drop bombs on kids,
which they do... continuously... And no one even mentions it. So... the acceptance of violence against civilians.
I've only started to realize this since I left. It's been... five years. And I'm like, that is. I mean,
maybe there's a circumstance where you need to go full Dresden on somebody. Let's talk about it. But they don't talk about it.
It's just like, well, we're going to, you know, we're going to bomb the Houthis and, like, open the shipping lanes What does that mean?.. Nobody cares.
because they have a. They have a... total acceptance of... killing people.
One of the reasons I left the Department of Defense, you know, I used to work on air and ballistic missile defense systems for
a long time with the dod, and I would go all over the world, work with our allies, work on American base,
and I go on to American ships on deployment with them sometimes when they were in hot spots, so that they had, like,
a real expert on in case something bad happened with one of their defense systems. And a lot of times I'd be on a little destroyer.
And I don't think I'm divulging any classified information here or anything. And honestly, like, with something like this, like,
I just, I don't. I don't particularly care. I guess nobody ever told me not to talk about it. But when the Saudi war and UAE war on Yemen was going on,
and every day you're reading in the paper of kids literally starving to death, of kids dying of
very preventable, very treatable diseases by the tens of thousands on a regular basis.
And we would be interdicting... smugglers coming from Baluchistan and other places, trying to come in and out of Yemen.
And we'd stop their Dows and small boats and we'd, you know, board them and search them and so forth.
And when this was going on, I wasn't a part of the crew. I was a civilian Department of Defense employee. And.
But I go out on deck and I kind of watch these things go down... And I can't tell you how many times,
eventually it was one too many times, I would read one of those stories about what was going on in Yemen,
and then we're, you know, 100 miles off Yemen, stopping a boat that's coming into that country
that has nothing on it but medicine and watching everybody dump it into the ocean.
and then everybody kind of celebrating like we just won another big victory, you know?
And it got to the point where, again, it was just one too many times I couldn't sleep at night. It was a big factor of why I left the job. It's just.
And, and, and, and I want to be very clear. I don't indict the... sailors who were carrying out the mission.
When you're in the culture, I mean, you're part of the military. It's hard to describe to outsiders, but these were. These are guys who thought they were fulfilling their patriotic duty.
I get it. But there's not a strong Christian vibe in that environment. Not exactly. Yeah. It's not too welcome
when you're asking people to... throw medicine in the water that's on its way to a country where kids are dying of diarrhea, you know,
and so that. That moral compromise, you know, the idea, the... answer to that question of how could Jeffrey Epstein,
when everybody knew, everybody in elite circles knew what he had done. Why is anybody accepting an invitation to go hang out with this guy?
Why is anybody flying on the Lolita express like any of these things?.. And the answer, I think, again, is
you're talking about a moral environment... that is very different from the one. There was a.
There was a article in the New York Times several years ago about this French author named Gabriel Matznev. This really, like, there was one line in it that really shed a lot of light on this...
for me. Gabriel Matn was a French author, very famous, had a.
Had a... column in Le Mond, I think. Famous novelist. And all of his books, all of them
were novels about pedophilia and... painted in, like, a. A very... positive way.
You know. the book that kind of broken through was called under 16 years old, and they're all graphic depictions of pedophile.
That was the name of the book. Yeah. And eventually he gets busted. and
he doesn't deny anything that he did when he's going through the criminal justice process and everything.
But he is really, really angry... because he's like, who do you. I could name names right now that would bring this whole place down.
Are you kidding me? Like, you're gonna put this on? Just me. And one of the things that they said in that New York Times story
is they said in France, but I would say this is, again, common. This isn't. This isn't unique to France.

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The ruling class or the elite classes... have for a long time distinguished Themselves from ordinary people
by their adherence to a different code of morality, the Marquis de Sade.
Yes. And that becoming like a mark of distinction, because, look like, I am one of the most powerful p. I'm the most powerful Democrat politician in the country.
I can invite... other people who in their worlds are powerful. I can invite them over to my house and have them walk by my
paintings of dead little girls, and they're going to go home smiling. That's what I can do. And then you think of a guy like Jeffrey Epstein who takes it
one step further and says, I wonder what else I could get away with, you know? I had one of the most interesting conversations I've ever had.
I had with a very spiritually attuned, very smart friend of mine. And I was saying, you know, know,
I'm a man and I. I hate lying and I just want to be honest about it. Like, they're... people do, you know, bad sexual stuff.
And I. I don't. But you could. I don't judge that much because you're like, yeah, you know, we're all in the wrong circumstance,
capable of anything. But I said to this person, I don't get the, like, underage girl thing. That's like, they're not
into it. Their kids. Maybe I have too many kids or something. I'm just. I'm not being selfish, just being honest. I just don't get that. I don't see any appeal... at all.
It's a pathological obsession. I mean, Epstein was into girls with braces specifically. Exactly. So what...
is that? And the conventional explanation is maybe I'm being too honest. But I think it's. I think this is really revealing
because it's not about sex. It's a spiritual thing. And I said, what is that? And this friend of mine said,
it's the thrill of destroying innocence. That's what it is. And that is the definition of evil. That is Satan.
Right. that was taking something pure. I guess this is. Maybe I'm the only person ever thought of this. Maybe you have already have.
I had not thought of that. I was like, it's not just a sexual attraction. Like, oh, I think, you know, underage girls with braces are hot... They're not.
No normal person thinks that. That's bizarre. No... The idea is that I'm destroying
something that's pure. Yeah. And throughout history. Well, that's just. That's Satan acting. Sorry. Throughout history,
people have looked at that as something that confers power. That's what child sacrifice. You know,
and exactly where people get that idea, I don't know, but it's apparently deeply ingrained enough. It's not an idea. It's a spiritual, reality.
And it's like the core of the Christian message where, you know, Satan says during.
At the end of the 40 days of temptation to Christ, you know, we... bow down before me and I'll give you all this power.
And that's clearly the arrangement... which is explicit or not, but it's... real. Not nonetheless,
between leaders when they. When they... kill in a wanton way, which most of them do, and when they destroy...
beauty and innocence, you're doing that in exchange for power. And it is a real trade.
Like, that's all real. It's totally real. You do become more powerful. And in a way,
the Epstein's of the world, the people who are just really pathological, you know, everybody kind of knows and accepts that they're Jeffrey Dahmers out there.
They're just people who have broken minds who do things that none of us can understand...
I think... for me, and for a lot of people like the. The more important question
is... how does Alex Acosta not resign when he's told to drop this case? How is.
And how does he wind up as labor secretary. How does every. I mean, what... Every person.
DC is the most cutthroat town in the country. Any. They will take anything out of context if they have to,
to destroy you. And you got this guy who's literally displaying pictures of dead kids on his wall.
Never even comes up. Like, it's all just normal, it's all good. And you say, like, the people that are more interesting to me...
are the quote, unquote, ordinary, ish people who were going to that party and thinking that it. What they're, what they're looking at is normal.
So let's get into some of the specifics. Subsequent, after Epstein gets out of his fake jail sentence in the
county jail. Is that what it was? Yeah, yeah, county jail. Yeah, county jail. He's just spending the night.
Yeah, six days a week. Oh, and by the way, the West Palm, rather, it was a private investigator that was hired by the victim's lawyers who was
watching him during that period of time. He would. Could go all sorts of places, you know, and even after his jail,
it was supposed to be two years. He served 13 months after that, he was on probation... He was on probation. He's supposed.
You're supposed to report... all your travels. He would leave the country, he would go to Paris, he would go to the Virgin Islands.
He Would leave the state. They documented him doing this. They would go to the authorities, these private investigators and lawyers,
and say, look, we got pictures. We got this, we got that. They don't care. It was fine. Has.
That's unbelievable. I mean, ask anybody. I happen to know a lot of people have been on parole or probation,
and, boy, they're very... afraid of violating it because you wind up back in a halfway house or in prison... But he wasn't afraid at all.
So has anyone ever been punished for that? That seems even. It seems on par with... the sex stuff.
Like, as a crime, if you're a... public official entrusted with upholding our system of law...
and you ignore it for whatever reason on Epstein's behalf, like, you should be punished for that.
Has anyone ever been punished? Yeah. You know, the. The excuse that I was just following orders only stops
working when you lose the war. You know, as long as that doesn't happen, then that excuse holds up.
You know, you. Everybody passes it to the person upstairs and eventually gets to a level that that person has enough juice to just shut the question down altogether,
you know? can you Say that again. The excuse. I'll say it for you. The excuse that I was just following orders only stops
working when you lose the war. So as long as your... party...
or culture organization or whatever it is, the structure, the power structure, as long as you're still in power,
you never have to answer these questions because, like, who's going to make you? Yeah. And don't underestimate the
Don't underestimate the ability of the human mind to its kind of what We'Re facing right now. like,
if you are an ordinary person who joined the Department of Justice and you're a prosecutor and you're being told to drop this case against this guy who is a
major predator who's harming girls on the regular, you're being told to give him to drop this case.
But you're let's. You're a normal person. You're a person who joined the Department of Justice to go fight crime, Gosh darn it, you know. but you got a family,
You've got tuition to pay. You got to put food on your kids table, and you got to balance all that out
against whether or not you're going to be able to sleep at night. And in order for you to be able to sleep at night,
the human mind is very, very adaptable, you know, even like minor things.
I mean, for you to be able. Not you personally, the royal. We, you know, we drive to church on Sundays and we pass under an overpass and there's
a bunch of just completely destitute homeless people laying on the ground. When, you know,
I think the... right answer is like, oh, there's my church today. You know, I'm gonna go deal with this and do what I can here.
That's church today. But we have to tell ourselves a lot of stories to be able to just drive past that
and drive home and go to breakfast and... And still think of ourselves as human beings. And the mind's very, very, very good at coming up with stories like that for ourselves.
So if you remember, for example, this was during the Afghanistan war. There was an army captain.
His name slips my mind at this point, but he's a hero in my book. But he actually got kicked out of the army.
They eventually reinstated him, I think. But initially it was disciplined. Kicked out of the army because he came upon
an Afghan army commander... or police official. I can't remember which one it was raping a little boy. And he beat the hell out of him.
And he got in trouble for that. He got kicked out of the army for doing that. And then the rest of the soldiers that went to Afghanistan...
were given stand downs and told that, like, look, this practice called bachabazi. Yes, it's horrible. It's awful.
We are not here to reform these people's culture. We've got an enemy we're trying to fight here, a counterinsurgency. If we start stepping in every time something like this happens,
it's going to undermine the effort. And so you guys are just going to have to look the other way. When you come across a grown man raping a of lot
little boy. How about no? And so, you know, it's like on one, especially
when, you know, if you think back, like, there were instances where we sent troops... to remote Afghan villages to go put down,
violently put down uprisings that had happened because we told them they have to have a certain number of women on their village council,
and that's not their culture. And so we're willing to alienate the local population to impose feminism on a remote village. But, you know,
but child rape, that's just kind of a cultural thing. You know, the Taliban had banned that and actually had death squads roaming the country.
I am aware killing people who did it. And imagine the propaganda the Taliban were able to put out...
Like, we had destroyed all the poppy fields and we banned this practice of bachabazi, like systematic child rape.
The Americans come in, both of those things, come back in force. It was a New York Times article. Hilarious the way it was framed,
because it was an article... about, look at what the evil Taliban are doing, where... they were manipulating these boys who were being kept as sex slaves
at police checkpoints and things, and manipulating them into, you know, shooting their, their commanders and their guards and then coming out
and fighting for the Taliban. Manipulates. Like I read it and I was like, it sounds me like they're liberating these boys,
but okay. And one of the things that it said in there is it was so widespread
that they looked at like three or four hundred police checkpoints. Every single one of them, them.
Every one of them... had a stable of little boys... that when. When off. When people would get hired to become an officer...
at a... And get assigned to a place, they would often... demand Bachabazi boys at the,
at their checkpoints or the stations that they were assigned to as like a perk of the job.
And we went along with that... And it's like, you know, and so that's how somebody at the Department of Justice or
in the intelligence community can say, yeah, you know, this guy in his free time, he does this, he does that.
But look, whatever, we're trying to fight a war. These are money laundering... And that's how they explain it to themselves. It's a really rotten, decadent culture, I would say, at the,
at the top. And as evidence of that, Epstein... gets out of jail in 2008.
Ish 9. And then between then and 2019, so 10 or 11 years,
he's like roaming around. We have a. Records of like a lot of famous people hanging with him on his plane on
the island during those years, correct? Yes. Yeah. Post conviction, post public...
humiliation. Riding a Lolita express. Yeah, but that was after.
Yeah, everybody knew. And so who are those people? Can you name some. A lot of the ones that have been in the news.
You know, Bill Clinton... obviously wrote, I think he's on record riding Epstein's plane 26 times.
And, and just for reference on that, one of Epstein's buddies and partners in crime was a French guy named Jean Luc Brunel,
who ran a modeling and talent scouting agency and used it the way that Jeffrey Epstein would use Victoria's Secret,
and they would also use. Use it together. In fact, Jeffrey Epstein provided the seed money for the, for the agency,
and they would bring girls in, and you use that environment to sexually abuse them and take advantage of them.
you know, he was. When Jeffrey Epstein was in jail for those 13 months, in 13 months, Jean Luc Brunel visited him...
70 times. Okay. He didn't ride on his plane as often as Bill Clinton did. Right. So that's just a reference point.
And Jean Luc Brunel, by the way, after Epstein got arrested, immediately went into hiding and then got caught trying to cross
the border to flee France, got put in jail. And I will give you... one guess and one guess only,
what happened to him? Everybody watching got it right. He hanged himself in his cell.
Yes, he did. No, he didn't. Wow. How did all the people watching get that right on the first guess?
you are making it up. I'm not making it up. Just like Robert Maxwell killed himself, just. Like Jeffrey Epstein did,
Just like the DC madam. So let's get to the, to the sort of terminus of... the story of his life, which is his death.
What do we know about that and what don't we know about it? Yeah. So one of, one of the interesting things about the whole Epstein story is you see a lot of
all the story we've been telling tonight about money laundering, intelligence agency connections
in the 80s and 90s, like a lot of that stuff is, again, it's a pile of circumstantial evidence, but it's a big enough pile that you can really draw a pretty
firm narrative with it... When you get to the, say, 2010s, we don't have nearly as much sort of solid information on crimes being
committed or high level things going on. Now one of the things we do have is he was very, very close with Ehud Barak,
former Israeli Prime Minister. he was the... head of military intelligence for, for quite a long time.
In fact, he was head of military intelligence back when... Jeffrey Epstein, Adnan Khashoggi, these people would have been operating,
you know, back in, in their heyday. He was very close with him. He was photographed going into Jeffrey Epstein's house one time,
like in a disguise. He stayed over for, not overnight, but for longer stretches for a long time.
Jeffrey Epstein provided the seed money for a tech company that Ehud Barak started up with
a bunch of guys who were veterans of unit 8200, which is like the Israeli NSA, basically a tech company.
And when Epstein was in control of the Wexner foundation. he gave Ehud Barak $2.3 million to
write two papers, one of which apparently got written, but the other never even got written. They never asked for their money back, so just gave him $2.3
million. So very, very tight, close, Big money changing hands, you know,
no allegations of sexual abuse or assault. There is, there are victims who say that... they were forced to have sex With Ehud Barack.
But, you know, I haven't... vetted those, those claims or anything, and I don't want to make that claim.
but so, you know... that that's one of the things we do have. But beyond that, you have a lot of celebrities,
a lot of sort of political figures like Bill Clinton, and a lot of it is sort of framed and does look like it's sort of a rehab tour.
You know, he's giving a lot of money away to primarily scientific causes, things like that, trying to build rebuild public goodwill essentially.
And it was the reason he was arrested again is because the lawyers,
God bless them, of a bunch of the victims from the first case, you know, they were really, really, really upset about what happened,
especially the fact that, that, you know, it took a lot of courage for these girls to come out.
These people were terrifying. Ghislaine Maxwell... would tell them when they tried to get away that, you know,
how easy it is to get rid of a girl like you. You know, these are the stories that the victims tell. They would threaten their lives, they would threaten their families.
And, you know, they're watching this guy get protected at the highest levels to. They're watching him get just a nothing sentence
when, you know, they all know what they did and the number and the case against him... And so they think this is an incredibly powerful guy.
They're terrified. It took a lot of courage to come out. And so when they went and cut a deal behind the backs of
not only the lead prosecutor, but the victims and the victims lawyers, the thing was signed, done deal.
Before anybody below like Alex Acosta's level even knew about it again,
including the Department of Justice lead prosecutor. They were really angry, you know, because they had been telling these girls,
look, I know it's scary, but you got to do this. And don't worry, we got this guy. He is going away for the rest of his life.
You don't have anything to worry about. And then to have that happen behind their backs, they were really angry. And so they kept on the case.
And they said, look, there is something out there called the victim's rights act. You are legally bound to inform victims when you do something like this.
You did not do that. This deal you made is not valid. And eventually a federal judge found that indeed the government had engaged,
these are the words the federal judge had engaged within a conviction conspiracy with Jeffrey Epstein
to make this deal, this illegitimate, illegal deal. And so it got stricken... and that allowed him to be rearrested.
And so that's why he was arrested in 2019, after, I guess it was by the feds? By the feds.
As he was coming back from Paris, his plane landed and Bill Barr's department of just. Bill Barr had just taken over
the Department of Justice in. I think it was February 2019 or so, right after the midterms.
And he has him arrested and then everybody kind of knows... the rough outlines story after that he's
in jail. There was the story of him being assaulted apparently in his cell by this gorilla that they put him in there. Well,
you see the picture of the dude that they put him in with. He was a corrupt NYPD police officer
who was in for a double murder of two drug dealers, that he was offing for another drug deal. Something like.
And he's like, like... giant bodybuilder dude, just a monster of a guy. And, you know, they put little Jeffrey Epstein, a
guy who's, you know, for all of his evils, not a violent criminal, in a cell with that guy.
That guy assaults him... and then he ends up. He ends up dead under circumstances that, you know, have gone.
They've been gone over again and again. And there is insane and ridiculous and implausible, as everybody says. I mean, for years we were always told,
this is just until very recently when they released the. That footage of the hallway outside his cell,
that there was no footage, that all three of the cameras that were relevant to that area of the jail
somehow... had malfunctioned or gone out of service at the same time. And the guards who were on duty that night,
you know, they had fallen asleep and the pages of their logbook... for... the pertinent time period somehow had gone missing.
And just all of these things, you're like, come on, Like. And a lot of times people say, like, you know,
because they have this James Bond idea of, you know, these kind of things. And like, like, if these were really.
If this was really some kind of a murder or a, you know, just maybe not a murder, but Jeffrey Epstein was told, you know. the best
course of action for you is if you go ahead and commit suicide now. you know,
the other options we're giving you are way, way worse. The guards are going to be off, you know, sleeping for a little while, so take care of yourself.
Whatever it was. you know, like. you have.
You have this set of circumstances that's entirely implausible. And you have pretty much everybody who knew him, including his lawyers, you know,
his lawyers immediately and still to this day, as far as I know, make the point. They're like, look, this was a guy who,
whose hubris was off the charts. He had already gotten away with this once.
He was now under arrest with a president that, you know. you know, I think
personally... we'll see what, what happens. You know, I don't, I just don't personally buy into...
the accusations of Trump having to do with Epstein. Just doesn't,
doesn't strike me as the personality type that would do that, that kind of thing. But, you know, there are pictures of him out there.
There was a relationship out there that maybe... could kind of be leveraged, doesn't want embarrassment. There were, in other words, there were strings to pull.
Like it wasn't as if his appeals were exhausted and he's going off to prison tomorrow... where, you know,
you're going to have a bunch of boss crackers waiting for this new Jewish pedophile that just showed up and he's just going to kill himself.
He had so many cards to play... and he had gotten away with it before. And nobody who was close to him during that time,
even including his lawyers, believes that he commits, committed suicide. Well, one lawyer, I spoke to his lawyers about it, it and
one said to me, well, he thought he was going to get out on appeal in days. so
it's interesting that the, the Bureau of Prisons, Department of Justice has never released the names of the inmates who were in...
the lockup with him. He was supposedly in the cell by himself, but there were 11,
I think... in that range, other inmates in the cell block, which was the maximum security cell block within the Federal Detention center,
the mcc, we don't know who they are and we know that a bunch were transferred out shortly after.
Several were anyway... and somehow we can't know their names because HIPAA or something, I mean, it doesn't make any sense. the,
the guards who fell asleep were... not really punished. They lied about the tape.
And most damning of all, Bill Barr participated in the cover up. I mean, flat out.
You could read his memoir in, in, and he says, as soon as this happened, I, you know, my first concern was people would think he was murdered.
Really, you're the chief law enforcement officer, you should hold open every possibility, including the most obvious,
which was he was murdered. So if your goal from the very first moment was to convince people of something you didn't know was true,
you're not pursuing the truth. You are in fact, by definition participating in a cover up. That's my view... I'd love to know the other side of it.
Bill Barr won't talk to me about it though. He's attacked Me for saying it, but Bill Barr is participating in the cover up.
So what the hell is that? Yeah. And when again, to go back to what we covered earlier, I mean, with Bill Barr's this...
history of covering things up for the intelligence community, both the Iran Contra thing as Attorney General in the early 90s,
and as the CIA liaison, legal liaison to Congress during the Church and Pike Committee hearings, there's a history there, you know,
of covering things up that have embarrassing ties to the intelligence community... And you know, one of the ways that, like, I don't think Bill Bar,
like, if he was your neighbor, I think he's probably a good neighbor. If you, you know, if, if he was never. Well, I know him.
I've always thought he was a super nice guy, friendly guy. I'm Sure. He's like, everybody who knows him thinks he's, he's a good man. And, you know, they're.
What matters is how you use your power. That's how you're judged. And again, and go back to how people justify things to themselves.
You know, a lot of people, most people are not comfortable thinking of themselves as... evil human beings or as people who are participating in doing evil.
And so they tell themselves stories to make it not that way. you know, again, to me.
a pervert like Jeffrey Epstein is like one small part of this story. To me, the whole, the whole constellation of forces around him that kind of coalesce to
protect him and confuse the issue. And to this day... is still, I mean, when I said Jeffrey Epstein has become a proxy for other things that are important,
I mean, this is something, if there's one message I would like, if there's anybody at the White House or anywhere close to those people watching
right now that they need to understand is the reason this is important to the base is not because they think there's
this Jewish pedophile who worked for the Israeli Mossad and they want him held. Like, it has nothing to do with that...
It's a proxy for can we hold these people accountable? Like... Donald Trump's presidency in general.
you know, people might have favored the trade policy... Certainly they were, you know, the immigration thing was important,
all that kind of stuff. But really what it was is, man, these people have gotten so out of control and so out of touch with the rest
of us and so unconcerned with what's going on with the rest of us. We just got to bring in a wrecking ball from the outside
who's going to go in there and shake things up and tear this thing down. People are not listening to us because we're irrelevant.
We don't have... any say in our government. There is no democratic control in the United States.
The population's views don't really matter. That's the feeling that people have. And this
whole story that you've told for 2 hours and 37 minutes confirms that they are right to be concerned.
Because what you're describing is an pretty organized, informally organized anyway, a force or series of forces that operate outside
and above the U.S. Government and every other global government, or most of them anyway.
And by definition, so the U.S. attorney, the federal prosecutor, the chief federal prosecutor in one of our biggest states is told back off
and does, and everybody beneath him does also. So, like, what is that? It's a force bigger than the U.S. Government.
And I just think that can't continue. That can't continue. You can't have that. And the nature of the crime,
again being that one crime that if you polled Americans said what's the worst crime?.. I think it would make the top of every list of every poll that you could run.
However you worded it. The fact that that's the crime, you know, it makes it so that, you know, when they tell you we.
you know, we, we bombed a car in Kabul and killed this family of 10, you know, during the Afghanistan withdrawal,
we can't really get into all of the details because of sources and methods and this and that and so forth. People be like.
okay, you know that I don't really like that. But, but a child's innocence, if anything, is sacred.
A child's innocence is sacred. And sacred means there is no compromise with regard to that.
If you have to. If, if, if exposing the information about somebody like Jeffrey Epstein
means that a Dr. Strangelove style nuclear device goes off and destroys the planet, too bad, let justice be done.
Even if the heavens fall on something like that. Because the crime... is just, it's beyond the pale.
It's something that for all normal people, they say, whatever your excuse is, you know, national security, first of all,
what does this guy who's a pedophile have to do with national security? But... whatever your excuse is,
I've wondered Since day one, what does that do with national security? Yeah, whatever it is, is... the answer is no... Okay, we have,
we have a, a journalist who has a source and this has not been refuted by the people involved saying that
he belonged to intelligence. We have all these ties over the years that provide more circumstantial
evidence to back that... if the U.S. government had anything to do with this guy... If foreign governments operating on our soil had anything to do with this guy,
we don't care what your excuse is. We're talking about a man who was raping... children.
And if our government, the people who pass laws that... we have to follow or else... have men with guns show up to our house and drag us off to a cage somewhere,
the men who make those rules, men and women who make those rules. they don't.
This is something that we have to draw a line in the sand and say, this is too far... You are going to dump all of this and we don't care what happens.
We want an explanation of what was going on... here... And there's just, we're not going to take no for an answer on it.
This is too far. It's just too emblematic. You know, it's, and it's, and it's too severe of a crime.
And I hope that people, I really hope that people will keep that mentality and not let this die until we get a good,
satisfactory answer on what was going on. Amen to that. And everything that you have said, I think in a really measured, restrained
way. I also notice... about you, as I've noticed before, your total determination to see things through the eyes of the
people you're talking about, whether you agree or disagree with them. You add humanity to history,
which is why I value your historical analysis... I think it's, it's the right way, it's the humane way.
My last question, and I just can't help this because I'm not as good a person as you are.
But why? So, Mark Levin described you as a propagandist, a demagogue. You shouldn't have a platform.
You should be silenced. You know, I've listened to you now for 2 hours and 40 minutes. I wonder what about what you just said would make
Mark Levin call for you to be silenced... and call you a criminal. I mean, here you are arguing against child molestation,
you are not attacking anybody, certainly on the basis of like religion or ethnicity or anything like that. You're not even attacking any governments.
that's my read on what you're saying. Why would that. your 2 hour and 40 minute description of
this news story, why would that make someone like Mark Levin so angry?
I mean, I think when you see the constellation of, of commentators and personalities that have kind of...
immediately jumped to the side of, there's nothing to see here, it's all over with, let's drop the case. You know,
it's all the same people who were telling us we were traitors if we didn't want to bomb Iran just a few weeks ago.
And so I think, and here's the funny thing about it is I think that people like Mark, people like Ben Shapiro, a lot of these folks are actually,
they're, they're afraid. They have something like the pop understanding of what Jeffrey Epstein was about in their heads, and they're afraid
that exposing the case will show his ties to Israeli intelligence. I actually have a much more conservative view on the whole
thing than they probably do. You know, I. Where I don't think they have as much to be afraid of in that sense.
I think he did work for Israeli intelligence, but I think he was a freelancer who did work for the CIA, did work for a lot of intelligence agencies,
probably independent criminals. it sounds like you're, you're right. I mean, this is not just about. I agree with you.
It's clearly not just about Israel. It's about a lot. It is in part about Israel, but it's not only about Israel. It's about
our government. They're the ones who covered up the freaking crimes in 2007... but that's not a problem.
Like, we can say that that's totally cool. It says a lot about
Levin and his priorities. His reaction to this, I would say, and I would say anyone who doesn't
want to get to the bottom of this, like, what? Why? I mean,
there is no answer that's going to make sense to anybody that has sat through three hours of this conversation, you know, already.
Because I, you know, and to me, I don't think there is... a good answer to that question. The, the, this. I agree We should not compromise on this. You know,
we will get a satisfactory answer or we will burn this place down figuratively. Don't come knock on my door, FBI.
But like, like, you know, that, that we're not going to let this go, that this is a line in the sand. You will be honest with us about this
because if you can't, the nature of this crime, if you can't, then it means that you, this thing cannot be fixed,
that you cannot be honest with us about anything. We can't trust anything you say. If you're willing to lie to us
to our faces when there is so much implausible, ridiculous information out there,
lie to us to our faces in such a brazen way about a guy who was raping children,
like, if you'll do that, then there's just, there's nothing more to talk about with the ruling class.
You know. I can't improve on that. Darryl Cooper. Thank you. I'm always grateful when you come. This is the second time.
I hope it won't be the last. Thank you very much. Always a pleasure.

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Trump gives SHOCKING statement amid Epstein fallout | Another Day
by Brian Tyler Cohen
Jul 21, 2025 Brian Tyler Cohen



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Donald Trump must be hiding something.
And for a guy already this exposed, that
is pretty scary. This is just another
day.

Donald Trump just reached his official
six-month mark in office, and in all
that time, he's only managed to get
caught up in one pedophile scandal.
Pretty impressive, if you ask me. But
this president clearly wants everybody
to focus on anything else. This all
started just after 10:00 this morning
when President Trump posted this, saying
that the Washington whatevers should
immediately change their name back to
the Washington Redskins football team.
Later this afternoon, the president then
posted this saying that I may put a
restriction on them if they don't change
the name back to the original Washington
Redskins and get rid of the ridiculous
moniker Washington Commanders. I won't
make a deal for them to build a new
stadium in Washington. He ends by saying
that the Indians are being treated very
unfairly, saying, "Make Indians great
again."

Make Indians great again? Sure, we've
ravaged their communities, stolen their
land, and forced them into centuries of
poverty, but I'm sure a hat with the old
mascot will make things right." The man
is grasping. News anchors don't even
know how to handle his inane ramblings
anymore.

All right, let's try to make sense of
what we've just gotten from the
president there.
Donald Trump isn't outsmarting the
media. He's just scrambling their
brains. Okay. Um, let's try and make
sense of the delicious word salad we've
just been given from the uh, let me make
sure that I have this correct,
"Leader of the free world."

Okay. Donald Trump's refusal to release the
Epstein files along with his
administration's mishandling of the
entire scandal has forced him into
full-blown distraction mode and he's
gone next level. This weekend, Trump
threatened to block the construction of
the Washington Commander new stadium,
which isn't a real thing he could even
do since it's not under his
jurisdiction. But I guess he figured
since he was already tossing out things
that weren't real, why not keep them
coming? President Trump shared an AI
generated video on Truth Social Sunday
depicting the arrest and imprisonment of
former President Barack Obama. The video
opens with a montage of Obama and other
Democrats that no one is above the law.
No one is above the law. No one is above
the law.
No one is above the law.
After that, the song YMCA kicks in as a
fake video shows Obama getting arrested
by FBI agents with Trump smiling beside
him.
You know it'll make us forget about
Trump possibly being involved in
Epstein's world of criminality. A video
of a president getting arrested.
Masterful deflection, sir.

The president
is truly losing his mind. But just in
case you weren't moved by his threats
against the NFL, his threats against
Barack Obama, don't worry, because
Donald Trump truly had something for
everyone with his distraction machine.
This week, President Trump, a fan of the
soda, announced Coca-Cola agreed to go
back to using real cane sugar in its
signature drink, like manufacturers
still do in Mexico. Coke, for its part,
has not confirmed any change.
Trump got busted with Coke, and it
wasn't even the exciting kind. This man
is begging for Americans to talk about
anything else. And in case they need
help on that front, well, Donald's got
you covered.

[Music]
This guy isn't even in the realm of
politics anymore. Nothing on immigrants,
Biden's autopen. Do you know how out of
sorts a victim playing narcissist has to
be just to start tossing out random
clips from Ebomb's world? If Trump posts
chocolate rain, JD Vance better start
stretching on the sidelines. This is
beyond telling. Trump's second term is
up Shitz Creek more than RFK after a few
laps in actual Shitz Creek.

And now once
again, his minions have to answer for
his lunacy.

[Reporter] Was the president serious or
was he joking this weekend when he said
he might block a Washington Commander
stadium deal if they don't change their
name?

[Karoline Leavitt] The president was serious. And it's part
of the art of the deal, part of his
negotiating skills. As you know, sports
is one of the many passions of this
president, and he wants to see the name
of that team change.

[Reporter] Why is he getting involved in that? Why
why does he see that as part of his
pursuit?

[Karoline Leavitt] I think you've seen the president gets
involved in a lot of things that most
presidents have not. He's a
non-traditional president. Yes, sports
is one of the passions of this
president.

[Bryan Tyler Cohen] Everybody knows he loves a
healthy competition involving balls,
especially since he's been in a
competition to see his own balls for the
past 50 years. But for Karoline, the
gaslighting didn't end there.

[Karoline Leavitt] If you actually poll this issue with
sports fans across the country and even
in this city, people actually do support
the president's position on this and the
name change.
To the White House's credit, I actually
do think we should take the sentiment of
NFL fans into account. I mean, honestly,
the fans know best. And when has their
judgment ever steered us wrong before?
You do not throw a pass at the goal line
when you have Marshon Lynch.

You might think I'm going to disparage
this guy, but the reality is you do not
throw a pass at the goal line when you
have Marshon Lynch. My dude had it
right. What's so unsettling about
Trump's attempts at distraction is that
whatever he's trying to distract us from
must be brutal. I mean, what are we
going to discover? That he was buddies
with a pedophile. Little late for that.
That he sends his regards to those who
aided in the sex trafficking.

[Donald Trump] I just wish her well, frankly.

[Bryan Tyler Cohen] Got that covered. That Trump had some
sorted history with having affairs and
then paying women off to keep them quiet
and keep his reputation intact. We've
got 34 examples already. Is there a
chance that some hungry journalist is
going to sift through thousands of
documents and uncover that years ago
Donald Trump sexually abused women? Been
there, done that? Are we going to learn
that he has a soft spot for white
supremacists?

[Donald Trump] Boys, stand back and stand by.

[Bryan Tyler Cohen] Mission accomplished. Is there some
chance that buried inside hours and
hours of transcripts from champagne and
caviar filled parties will unearth
incredibly damning quotes that show that
Donald Trump was a misogynistic
womanizer?

[Donald Trump] And when you're a star, they let you do
it. You can do anything,
whatever you want.
Grab 'em by the pussy.

[Lawyer] So, you have done that. Now, tell me.

[Donald Trump] Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that
I'll go backstage before a show, and
everyone's getting dressed and ready and
everything else ,and you know, no men are
anywhere,
and I'm allowed to go in because I'm the
owner of the pageant, and therefore I'm
inspecting it. You know, I'm inspecting.
I want to make sure that everything is
good. Yeah. "The dress, is everyone okay?"
You know, they're standing there with no clothes on.
Is everybody okay? And you see these
incredible looking women.
And so I sort of get away with things
like that.

[Reporter] Yeah. Do you have an age limit, or would
you ...

[Donald Trump] No, no. I have no age. I mean, I
have an age. I don't want to be like a
bully with, you know, 12 year olds.

[Bryan Tyler Cohen] A man who said when it comes to dating
young women, he draws the line at 12
years old, went on to be elected
president of the United States twice,
and he's afraid of what's in those
Epstein files. Do you realize how insane
that is? That's like if the guy from the
Coldplay concert went the next night
with a second mistress, asked to be put
on the Kiss Cam, and then got elected
president twice. What is Trump's fear
that his party might abandon him? They
literally think he is a gift from God.

[Trumper] God miraculously spared the president's
life. I think it's undeniable. And
he did it for an obvious purpose. And
his presidency and his life are the
fruits of divine providence.

[Bryan Tyler Cohen] Yes, divine providence. I think we all
recall the famous scripture,

"The Lord
shall sendth a man beset by numerous
felonies and sexual abuse convictions to
preach God's words that our sports
franchises remain racist, but also
remind us how thy neediest shall be
abandoned for tax cuts and military
parades."

I mean, if there is one man
who knows how loyal Donald Trump's base
is, it's Donald Trump.

Donald Trump] I have the most
loyal people. Did you ever see that?
Where I could stand in the middle of
Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I
wouldn't lose any voters. Okay, it's
like incredible.

That's where he set the
bar: Homicide on the streets of New
York. So by that logic, whatever is in
the Epstein files must be worse. And not
like homicide during rush hour worse,
but like really worse. Do you all
understand how bad what's in those files
must be? That's a 34-time convicted felon
who is on tape bragging about committing
sexual assault, and whose fans are so
undiscerning that he says that they will
support him even if he commits homicide
in broad daylight saying he doesn't want those
files released. Like that should scare
everyone.

Donald Trump is someone who
has been able to weather even the most
hellacious of storms. But clearly this
is a cloud that he can't come out from
under. And when that hellish rain
finally does come down, he's going to
wish it was chocolate.

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Jon Stewart Tells Viacom: Go F**k Yourself!
by Cenk Uigar
The Young Turks
Streamed live 17 hours ago #TYT #TheYoungTurks #BreakingNews

Jon Stewart tore into CBS for canceling “The Late Show With Stephen Colbert,” accusing parent company Paramount Global of caving to Donald Trump, during Monday’s episode of “The Daily Show.” Cenk Uygur discusses on The Young Turks. Your Support is Crucial to the Show: https://go.tyt.com/jointoday

"TAMPA, Fla. — On the weekend President Donald Trump decided to pick his biggest political fight to date with the MAGA base he created in his own image, thousands of his adherents were gathered together.

And all they wanted to talk about here at the Student Action Summit hosted by the conservative activist group Turning Point USA was the "Epstein files."

“I think that these people — and I don’t know, for whatever reason, there could be reasons — but I don’t think they’re telling us the truth about Epstein,” podcaster Brandon Tatum told the assembled crowd at the Tampa Convention Center. “I think that that that guy was involved in something nefarious that implicates a whole lot of people. And my guess is that the whole lot of people may have, may happen to be some of our allies and some people that we don’t want to have a bad relationship with.”

Trump pulled the rug out from his base Saturday evening when he released a lengthy social media post that completely dismissed the importance of the issue that has consumed the right for the past week — and longer."



Transcript

All right, John Stewart was on the Daily
Show today. Uh, what was he going to do?
Was he going to defend Stephen Cobear,
his old friend from the Daily Show? Coar
canceled by CBS, his late night show.
And of course, uh, Cobar and John
Stewart worked together. Coar came out
of the Daily Show originally. And of
course, it's the same parent company,
Viacom, that owns uh, both CBS and
Comedy Central. So he's in essence
addressing his own uh bosses. So that's
kind of a rough place to be, but he's
got enough power and leverage to be able
to do that and to get tell them tell
them what they actually what he actually
thinks. And at the end, he went pretty
over the top. I I don't know if they'll
perceive it as over the top because he
did it in such a smart way. I'll tell
you that in a in a little bit. And
obviously we'll have a lot of coverage
of this and many more things tomorrow on
the show live at six o'clock Eastern.
That's when we do it. Uh, so I'm going
to start reading to you guys what he
said. Because of copyright issues, you
can't show it anyway. Nobody can show
it. So, uh, I'll tell you. He said, "The
fact that CBS didn't try to save their
number one rated network late night
franchise that's been on the air forever
for over three decades is part of what's
making everybody wonder, was this purely
financial or maybe a path of least
resistance for your 8 billion merger
with killing a show that you know
rankled a fragile and vengeful president
so insecure suffering terribly from a
case of chronic penis insufficiency."
Now, those are his words, not mine. Um,
okay. Sometimes, you know, I've gotten
in trouble for reading other people's
words because
life. Uh, anyways, so important stuff
here. John S also makes a super
important point about the industry that
I want to get to in a second. That might
be the most important thing he said. Uh,
but basically what he's saying here is,
we don't really believe you. You say
that it was a financial decision, but
that's not what you do with the best
rated show on television and with this
giant franchise. So, and he's absolutely
right about that. On Friday's Young
Turks, um Monzrai made a couple of
devastating points uh basically proving
there's no way that it was about uh just
money because normally what a company
would do in this scenario, and he's
absolutely right, uh is a couple of
things. Number one, they would try to
extend the life of the show more uh at
the same cost. Uh and there's a lot of
different ways to do that. Uh you could
ask for a slightly longer run. Uh but
one of the things they would normally do
is try to negotiate
uh both salary reductions and staff
reductions. So if you're uh you know
costs are a little bit higher than your
revenue, you got to get your cost down.
And you do that by renegotiating the
salaries on TV, which they do all the
time, right? That is the very standard
procedure now, very normal. Almost
everyone on TV expects it. And they
didn't bother trying to do that. They
didn't try to preserve the show in any
way, even though it was the highest
rated late night show, even though it's
the only thing on CBS that goes viral
online. Uh, and as John Stewart pointed
out throughout the segment, this is how
you build a brand with super successful
shows like this. and they didn't try to
parlay that. They didn't try to mitigate
the costs, etc. Just cancelelling it
outright. From a financial perspective,
even if the show was losing money and
CBS or Viacom was right about that, even
then it still wouldn't make financial
sense. So that that's why their u you
know point here is indefensible, right?
So he then uh said, "I believe CBS lost
the benefit of the doubt two weeks prior
when they sold out their flagship news
program to pay an extortion fee to said
president." So here he's getting in
CBS's face, right, in his own parent
company's face. And they're saying he's
saying they sold out their uh flagship
news program 60 Minutes in that case and
paid an extortion fee. And did they?
Yeah, of course they did. Of course they
did. And that is what happened. And look
here, he's not challenging a mom and pop
shop. He's challenging an $8 billion
company. That is speaking truth to
power. He said at one point, it's not
really speaking truth to power, but it
is. It is. And yes, he might have the
luxury of being able to afford to lose
that job, but nevertheless, he is
risking it. And so that's still
something big. Uh, and so, but that's
what you got to do. You can't. These are
the times that if you shrink from the
fight, as he then later put it in a song
and with a gospel behind him, the gospel
choir, um well, this is what defines you
then. The shrinkage is who you are. Uh
to paraphrase him and and so I agree
that's why Daily Show stepping up now
and defending Cobar uh makes a lot of
sense against this juggernaut, both
Viacom and Trump. Uh okay. He he then
went on to say, "Look, I understand the
corporate fear. I understand the fear
that you and your advertisers have $8
billion at stake, but understand this
truly that the shows that you now seek
to cancel, censor, and control." And not
a significant portion of that $8 billion
value came from those uh and here I'll
curse tonight those shows.
That's what made you the money. that
money. Shows that uh say something,
shows that take a stand, shows that are
unafraid. And not to believe me, this is
not a we speak truth to power. We don't.
We speak opinions to television cameras,
but we try. We try every night.
And if you believe as corporations or as
networks, you can make yourself so
innocuous that you can serve a gru so
flavorless that you will never again be
on the board king's radar. A why will
anyone watch you? and you are
wrong. And so that part I agree with a
billion%.
So it's not just about Trump, not just
about CBS or Viacom.
And John Stewart several times mentioned
advertisers even though they're not
really pertinent to this story at all.
So why gratuitously throw in advertisers
a couple times? Because what you guys
might not know is what advertisers or
what makes television shows so plain and
boring and vanilla. And that is why
shows like ours actually struggle for a
long time. Hit the join button below to
support our programming. I'm doing this
uh segment for you guys in the middle of
the night because I I think it's amazing
and I wanted to share it with you guys.
But the reason for the struggle is
because advertisers go, "Oh, that's an
interesting show. They say something
that's true. Ew. Oh, they said something
that's uh challenging and interesting
and challenges the status quo. Oh no,
they were racist. Oh no, they defended
against racist. Oh no. Everything is Oh
no. And by the way, the right-wing, God,
they made such a colossal error, not
just for us as in all of online media
and certainly the left, but but for
themselves on the right, too. When they
shot up that bud, but that Bud Light and
in a lot of ways, they shot up uh all of
the advertising. Not all, but a lot of
the advertising possibilities online
because every sponsor's now nervous. Oh
no, what if I I trigger the right wing?
They're so sensitive that they smash my
products and burn them and they do
boycotss. Oh, what if I trigger the
other side? I don't want to trigger any
side. Ah. And they run screaming from
the building and they go and then they
go to CBS and go, "Give me the most
boring show you have and make sure
nobody has any opinions and definitely
not outsider opinions, definitely not
controversial or interesting opinions.
Give me vanilla." They scream into the
void. And that is also partly what he's
talking about here. So,
uh, he's writing a thousand different
ways. And then at the end, um, he
brought out the choir that I told you
guys about and and basically he set it
up this way. That's why they might not
fire him. Although he says in in part of
it like here at at the end he says
institutions that have chosen not to
fight the vengeful and vindictive
actions of our pubic hair doodling
commanderin-chief. This is not the
moment to give in. I'm not giving in.
I'm not going anywhere. I think is what
he added. Okay. But then with this
prelude, what he's saying is guys, if
you do the right thing, he's saying to
his bosses in in effect, uh then then we
love you for it and great. And then then
you don't have to do, you know, be
criticized and stuff. But if what you do
at the end is you do the wrong thing,
that doesn't just hurt the shows and
maybe even the company, but hurts the
country. And this is not like a little
small interaction between online hosts
or TV hosts or two congressmen. No, this
is the president of the United States
trying to intimidate the entire US media
into compliance.
And this is when you're tested. So if
you fail that test, he brings out the
choir. And again, I'm paraphrasing. He
didn't quite f phrase it that way. What
I said was probably just he put it in a
comedic light. Okay, I summarized it in
in in a political way that way. Anyways,
he says, "Now, but if you fail that test
in essence, then they started saying,
"Go yourself. Go yourself."
Okay? And they did that for quite some
time. So ballsy, uh, you know,
challenging as we would expect, awesome
as we would expect from John Stewart in
the Daily Show. sticking up for a
friend, being loyal, sticking up for the
audience, sticking up for Americans. So,
all the things that you love about John
Stewart, he nailed it tonight. Uh, so
great job by him. Uh, we all stand with
Steven Cobar, of course. And, uh, Trump,
look, this last things here, guys. This
bullying routine is gonna start to run
out of gas. Like, we've seen this trick
too many times. And then people who are
not uniting and and rallying against it
and are crumbling like the Colombia
universities, the law firms that John
Stewart talked about tonight who gave
in, etc. They're going to be very poorly
judged by history. Uh this is the time
to stand up, not the time to shrink
back. There's a lot of different ways to
stand up, okay? Uh and but you got to
stand. You got to do do it your way any
way you want, right? Uh and and so
there's a lot of productive ways to do
it. There's some nonproductive ways to
do it, but at least get in the fight and
do something, right? Have a plan. Have a
strategy. How do we take power away from
this guy? How do we make sure that we as
a society don't give up our
Constitution, that we don't give up the
freedom of press, we don't give up
freedom of speech. These are core
rights. These are the things that you
unite to fight back against, right? We
don't want him lighting up the
Constitution. Let's go find as many
allies as we can. Let's all fight in the
different ways that we do. And and I
appreciate that John Stewart was of
course, as usual, a critical part of
that fight tonight. Um and and guys, if
you're on the right, it ain't about
policy, man. You said that you were
against cancel culture. They just
canceled them. That's literally cancel
culture. It couldn't be any more
literal. You said you were for freedom
of speech. But if you say now, "Yeah,
but he makes jokes about Trump." Well,
then you never believed in freedom of
speech. You never believed in uh, you
know, being upset at cancel culture. You
never believed in any of that. All you
believed in was Daddy Trump and and and
you know what? I got speech rights to
criticize Biden and and different races
and religions and this and that and I
can criticize anything I want, the
government, etc.
Oh, but you're going to criticize the
government when Trump is in charge. No.
Now, I'm not saying that all Trump
voters are doing that. I think a lot of
them are not doing that. But some are,
some are. And if you're in that crew and
you say, "No, free speech is only for
me. But if you insult my daddy, then
we're going to burn the Constitution.
And we're not going to give you free
speech. We're not going to give you free
press. and politicians are going to get
to sue anyone in the press who
criticizes them. You got to be out of
your mind. And if you're rightwing,
you're even more out of your mind. Are
you kidding me? That anytime that if
Democrats come in or the establishment
comes in and you're far right or far
left or forget the FARS, you're just an
outsider. You're just challenging power.
The very first thing that any
establishment president from any party
is going to do is cancel you. And so
where are you guys at? Did you mean
freedom of speech? So if we were a real
united country would unite around this
because it's not about Trump's policies
or Cobar's policies, do they agree on
the budget or not? It's about do you
fight for this freedom, this absolutely
essential American freedom? And we
should do as John Stewart is doing. We
should fight.

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Col. Larry Wilkerson: Israel SURVIVES a new WAR w/ Iran? – Yemen Push Israel's Economy to the Brink!
by Nima Rostami Alkhorshid
Dialogue Works
7/22/25



Transcript

Hi everybody. Today is Tuesday, July 22nd, 2025 and our friend Colonel
Wilkerson is back with us. Welcome back, Derek. Good to be with you, Neon.
Let's jump in and talk about the interview that Iranian foreign minister
had on Fox News. Here is what he said about the way that Iran sees the
situation. Respect. Obviously, it's not just the US and Israel, but other world leaders who
have concerns about the enrichment program. Why would you need to put it a half mile under a mountain facility to
protect it if it was a completely peaceful program? That's just some of the thoughts about it. Um, secondly,
President Trump has said he would not hesitate to launch more strikes if Iran tries to rebuild its enrichment program.
So, what what's your response to President Trump? Because of the, you know, constant
threats by Israelis, by, you know, the United States in the past, we had no way
but to to protect our facilities and to protect our material and protect our our our scientists. Uh
so my message or uh to to to the United States is that let's go for a negotiated
solution for Iran's nuclear program.
Yeah. He wants negotiations. He wants talk with the United States. Larry, how
do you find the way that Iran is behaving? And let me just say first Yeah. First of
all, that was such a stupid question. I mean, Israel has assassinated nuclear
scientists, assassinated leaders of the military.
Why are you underground? Of course, you're underground. You don't
want to, you know, have such ease at doing it. At least you want to take some
defensive measures. So, that that was such a stupid question, but typical of Fox.
I continue to be amazed at the Iranians, Nema. I I I have to think
that both the president, the foreign minister, and a couple of others that I've I've actually had a conversation
with. Um, and I don't think these professors at Tran University would be dissembling, but maybe they're they're
using the script that's been handed out. I don't know. They're trying to fool us now. That's all I can figure. Um, I
don't believe that, but that's what it looks like because I would not be doing
any of this were I they would be closing ranks, closing doors,
closing diplomacy. I would be battening down the hatches and I would be working
fiercely to produce a nuclear weapon because we have proven to them
regardless of their fatwa and the Islamic appreciation of nuclear weapons is anathema and I can go along with that
myself personally. I wish everyone believed that. But regardless of all of that, they live
in an extremely dangerous world with a lunatic backed by a an empire gone massively
astray in the region. BB Netanyahu, a lunatic
who lusts to resume the war with them and to now really take out their nuclear
program. I'd build a bomb and I'd present it a fa as a fat comply. Um I I might even test
it as a fat comply as the North Koreans did. Although they did it so deeply underground we could hardly detect the
first one. It took a second one for us to confirm that they had actually done a test. Iran could do that too. They have
terrain and depth to do that. Um and of course they don't necessarily have to
test. You can let the test be your first use. You still have a deterrent because
hardly anyone's going to test you as to whether or not you're telling the truth.
I go back to the situation with Israel. Um there are people who don't believe Israel has an effective bomb. They don't
believe they have it. Now there are others who you know cite JFK's
um very very powerful attempt to keep Israel from getting a bomb as a another
reason to tack on to the conspiracy that actually assassinated John Kennedy and
and I wouldn't doubt that for a moment. I don't have the bonafiday to say it's true, but I do know that Kennedy was
deadly against Israel getting the nuclear weapon. And I do know that he
was very much for forcing Apac to register as a foreign agent and other
things like that that really made the Zionist in Israel angry. So that might
have been another reason why Israel was a component of the assassination along
with the CIA and the military and others whom I'm convinced participated in that
operation whether it was rogue or not. Um so I you know that's what I do if I
were Iran. I'm just saying what I say as a military professional. It doesn't take
a rocket scientist to look at what happened to Muhammad Gaddafi and to Libya and what has not happened to Kim
Jong-un and North Korea. And there's only one conclusion that I can come to as a military professional and that is
the reason is North Korea has a nuclear weapon. In fact, they have probably 30
or 40 now and that's extraordinary deterrent uh even to the empire.
Iran has no such deterrent and Iran is going to be treated
as a subject of regime change until
regime changes or until they obtain a nuclear weapon. So as much as I hate to
say I would bless nuclear proliferation in the Levant,
I don't want to say that. I don't want to do that. But speaking from the Iranians perspective, I would say build
your weapon. And to answer your question, finally,
that doesn't seem to be what they're doing. It seems to be that they're seeking once again to be led down the
primrose path by Donald Trump in the United States and to be once again disappoint disappointed. And this time
could be serious serious disappointment because Israel will not relax. Israel
wants a toadi regime in Tran. Israel
wants a toad regime in Damascus. Israel wants a toadi regime in Beirut.
They've almost achieved the latter and they're working on the middle. And they
want ultimately Iran to be the same way. What do I mean by a toad regime? A
regime that buckles completely under to Israel.
Lori, do you believe that the main objective of the attack on Iran was the
regime change? I think that's what the Congress passed with regard to Iraq and Iran. We forget
that sometimes. Now the Congress will say as they have said to me various
people in the Congress, well that doesn't mean it has to be by force of arms. It could be by a clandestine
operation like in 1953 or and this is actually what one of them
said to me or it could be by the Iranian people and I would prefer this. He said
rising up and overthrowing their regime. And this individual I said back to,
"Senator, what makes you think that if the Iranian people rose up and overthrew
the theocracy, which you just called it, that the replacement government, the
Iranian people would then accept, put in place or whatever, would have any
interest in terms of security in a very dangerous part of the world different
from the current Islamic regime. What makes you think that? Because Iran is
still in the same place. It's still got the same enemies, Israel foremost,
and it's still got basically the same things to secure. So, I don't see how
that's a solution that they rise up. And you're thinking they're going to rise up and put Thomas Jefferson in charge and
oh, by the way, it's going to be the Thomas Jefferson that was in Virginia. That's stupid. That's just idiotic. Uh
but that's what we believe and I I've found that to be the views amongst most of the Congress.
If we assume that was the case for the Israeli attack on Iran and how can they
think of a new attack on Iran because that not that's not going to happen.
It's I hope you're right. I hope you're right. But look at what BB's doing in Syria. And I think, you know,
this morning I also had a conversation with, as I was telling you before we went on the air with a individual in
Munich who's telling me about um DAL no longer has the resonance for her that it
once had because she's seeing Gaza live streamed, the genocide live streamed to
her. Um this is happening all over but it's not happening fast
enough. The the shift is gradually taking place even in this country. Polls
are showing that people are questioning as Marjorie Taylor Green is questioning in the Congress for example now a MAGA
stalwart is questioning the association with Israel and not paying any attention
to the American people while paying vivid attention to Israel. So, it's
shifting, but it's not shifting fast enough. And the consensus in this country and the consensus in Israel is
that not only should Israel be allowed to affect regime change in Iran, we
should help. And I have no doubt that however reluctant Trump might seem to be
in offering that help should Israel reopen the war, reignite the 12-day
beautiful war, because I'm hearing also from some really good channels that
Israel understands they did not do much. They did not do much to set Iran's
nuclear program back. And so in in the con confines of his own intelligence
community, Netanyahu knows that what he did was poke a stick in a bear and make
the bear angry. Despite these comments being made by the president and the
foreign minister, I think Israel is smart enough to know they have a real
reason now to as fast as possible move to a bomb. And that scares them. It
frightens the Jesus out of them. This isn't fake anymore. This isn't Netanyahu making things up. They really understand
now that they have provoked Iran to becoming an existential threat to
Israel. So, they're going to take him on again. There's no question in my military mind that they're going to take
him on again. And they're going to expect the US to follow. And from what I've seen of Trump to this point,
whether it's his mishandling of the Epstein affair or his mishandling of the NATO summit he was just at or other
things, Trump will he'll follow. He may be reluctant, but he'll follow.
And then we're in, you know, in a real pickle, as I've said many times before,
because we're not going to be able to defeat Iran to the point where we can march in and affect regime change.
Iran is not the Iran we looked at in 1953. It's not the Iran that Sodom Hussein
fought. It's not the Iran that we conducted operations against in
operation praying manis and operation will. It's a very different Iran because
what they did was they learned from those engagements with the United States
and they said to themselves, I'm particularly talking about the IRGC but
also the national military, never again. This is not going to happen again. We
are going to work hard underground if we have to. And much of it did take place literally underground. And we're going
to have the kind of weaponry that we need to ensure this doesn't happen again. We may go down, but we're going
to take a hell of a lot of them with us.
Larry, Israel is not even capable
to defend itself with the case of Houthies, Yemenes. But
how is that going to play out for their plan on Iran with what we've seen in the
attacks? how Iran was capable of hitting any target they wanted to to hit in
Israel to a certain extent like Hitler or Stalin even or Ma Satung um any dictator
really as you get deeper and deeper into your dictatorship you begin to believe
your own rhetoric Netanyahu is at that point now he he begins to believe his
own rhetoric whether it's visav the Drews and his battle with the government
of Syria or whether it's Iran. What Netanyahu believes is that he can
in fact defeat Iran. He can affect regime change as long as the United
States helps him. Now, that I think is
the height of suicidal tendencies, if you will,
because I think Netanyahu is embarked on the ruination of the Jewish state. As
I've said many times before, Israel will not be a Jewish state very much longer. It is untenable for it to be a Jewish
state. Um that it might survive in some other form is another matter altogether.
I don't see that happening right now, but it could. So we've got a we've got a
dictator who believes his own rhetoric, who believes it even to the exception of
his intelligence agencies like Trump. Both of them same way. They make their
own intelligence. And Netanyahu like Hitler really from about the time he
invaded Czechoslovakia to the time he invaded France where it really put the icing on the cake in 19 in the spring of
1940. Like Hitler, success breeds a lot of following. Success breeds a lot of
allies. Success breeds a lot of confidence from your own people.
That's where Netanyahu is now. Especially with that group that has taken over Israel. And let's face it,
they have taken over Israel. The radical Zionists who've always been there from the very beginning in 1948, even before
that. They've been killers. They've been terrorists. They've been some of the world's worst terrorists. They've been
there all along, lurking in the background, surfacing every now and then, then going and hiding again. They
surfaced with Shiron when they massacred the uh the two camps in or orchestrated
the massacre of the two camps in Lebanon in 1983 I think it was.
Now they're back and they've been back. Ron helped Netanyahu facilitated and now
Netanyahu has capitalized on it all. So this is the greater Zion. This is the
greater Israel group of people. They want they want all the territory they
can get their hands on. Not just Syria, not just Lebanon, not just Gaza, not just the West Bank, not just East
Jerusalem. They want parts of Egypt, if not all of Egypt, and they want parts of Iraq, and they want all of Jordan. And
they will not rest until they have it. Iran stands in the way of that happening.
Fast forward a little and come up into the ether that I'm talking about when I say we're already in World War II. The
United States must take out Iran in terms of it being anything other than a
toad state, a state like it was even worse under the sha doing our wishes. It
cannot stop China if it lets its base road initiative break through so to
speak anywhere because once it breaks through China becomes a magnet for
everything that the west is doing. Iran is a place uh just as Ukraine was a
pa place where China expected to have a southern entropo if you will Ukraine a
central entropo and I'm convinced now the reason their interest in the Arctic
is so revealed as I found out from talking with my
buddies at the Pentagon who are looking at the Arctic as a new theater of war. Now that China is looking at that, they
are thinking about that being another path through which that smooth sailing
that it will be eventually across really most of Russia, Northwest Passage,
whatever you want to call it. That's going to be a dynamic new theater of commerce at least until climate change
wipes us all out. Uh maybe 50 years or so. and Russia and China are now in
partnership. Russia has the dominant frontage, if you will, on that route. So
now they have a central route, a northern route, and a southern route. But what's the empire done? It's blocked
all three with Ukraine, with its efforts in the Arctic, which are only now
beginning to grow, and with the war with Iran. It's blocked it. Um, and that's
what that that's what we're going to continue to try to do. That's why I say we're in World War II and we're in it
with China and Russia. These are the opening skirmishes, if you
will. And like World War I, they have enormous economic
factors that are pushing the empire one way and China and Russia the other way.
It doesn't have to be a smart president, a smart imperial
president would back off, use diplomacy, use what economic might
we have left. And I say that with with great sadness because um if you read
Steve Warheim's article the other day, you know that 60 to 70% of the countries
in the world today, of the countries in the world today, about 138 countries
do more trade with China than they do with the United States. And of 23 of
that number do twice as much. And if you look at any any measure of
economic might right now, China is winning. They're winning hands down. Um,
we're trying to stop that. We're trying to stop that instead of cooperating, instead of taking a second place, if you
will, instead of being uh a country that seeks to compete,
strategically compete, tactically compete with China and with Russia and
to draw upon each other's strengths and to meet the challenges we have to meet
like the climate crisis, like nuclear weapons. We're fighting it. We're fighting it tooth and nail. And as I've
said before, Katie bar the door at the end of the day when we are losing badly,
watch out because we still have 6,000 nuclear warheads.
If I were if I were Xing Ping or Vladimir Putin, that would be foremost
in my mind all the time is that going down a dying elephant can thrash a lot of
grass. That elephant has nuclear weapons. So, I have to be very careful
about how I contest this shift in power. I'm winning. I'm going to win
ultimately, but I've got to be very careful about how I deal with this empire because they have nuclear weapons
and they have an absolute in charge of them.
Larry, you compared Nadia to the situation in Germany. Does that suggest
that he's not going to leave power? He's not going to leave the his position
before destroying everything in Israel. I think so. Um, I would be hardpressed
to tell you that I have confidence that were he to hold an election and lose it,
that he wouldn't close everything down, declare himself dictator for life, and be there until his life was ended. I I I
have no problem seeing that scenario. The only thing
sort of militating against that scenario is that he is such a consumate
politician within Israel. He'd be a disaster anywhere else. But within
Israel where he has so many likeminded likeminded Jews as citizens,
it's hard to me for me to imagine him not orchestrating his perpetual win.
Look, look at what he's doing with the Drews leaders in Syria. He's trying to recruit them as voters.
I mean, this guy, this guy is probably one of the world's best politicians measured in his environment. He'd fall
flat on his face anywhere else. But in Israel, with the following that he has,
he's very clever. He's a propaganda genius. He lies without any compunction
whatsoever. He cheats and steals without any compunction whatsoever. And he kills
without any compunction. You know, the New York Times had a piece uh yesterday,
I think. I'm reading it and I'm saying, whoa, I I copied something out of it.
Quote, this is from the New York Times online version. Quote, "Aid spots, that's humanitarian aid spots in Gaza
have become hotspots for shootings. New York Times 22 July 25. I rarely use that
abbreviation people text you know. OMG, oh my god.
I put it after that. New York Times is finally awaken to the fact that Israel
is using humanitarian aid and the dispensation thereof
to gather Palestinians so they can more efficiently kill them. anywhere from 50
to 60 to 150 a day. They are killing at these aid points because that's so easy
to do. It's that heinous. It's that despicable.
And like the woman in Munich said, this is making Dao pale Awitz pale by
comparison. One, because it's in our face and it's live streamed. You know,
Doc and Awitz weren't live stream in our face. We're seeing this. And the Nemo,
the thing I cannot understand is why is it more of the world the
world, not just America, I understand how broken we are. Why is it more of the
world listening to someone like the raptor at
the UN Albanese who's been telling the truth about this day after day after day
and believing their own eyes? Are they not seeing it? Like this woman in Munich
and not doing anything. It's it's inexplicable to me that it's been all
this time since October the 7th and you heard the statements immediately after
October the 7th from people like Smootrich and others.
No one's really doing anything about it. It's just amazing unless you go back and
look at some of the other times in history when things like this have happened. I mean, here here comes a boat
full of Jews to the United States with Hitler on the rise in Germany. And what do we do? We won't let them make port.
We're doing it again. We're doing it again. And we're doing it under entirely reverse circumstances. The killers, the
murderers, the gas chamber operators, the slaughterers, the shooters of babies
and children are now the Israelis.
the ho holocaust expert at Brown University. Um, what's his name? I wrote
it down somewhere. Uh, Bartoff, Omar Barktoff at Brown
University, professor of Holocaust and genocide studies. He now says, "My
inescapable conclusion, inescapable conclusion has become that Israel is
committing genocide against the Palestinian people." You think I don't
need a degree in Holocaust studies to tell him that that is what's happening? Why did it take you so long to come to
that conclusion? Yeah, there here is what the British
surgeon is talking about the way that Israelis are shooting children in Gaza.
colleagues in the emergency room describe a very clear pattern where on particular days they'll see different p
body parts targeted. So on one day they'll all be abdominal gunshot wounds.
On another day they'll all be head gunshot wounds or neck gunshot wounds. On another day there'll be arm or leg
gunshot wounds. And on last Saturday, uh there were four young teenage boys all
brought in very very uh rapidly in succession with gunshot wounds to their
testicles. So, they'd clearly been targeted um to their testicles and and
this is a pattern that we're seeing every day um that these young um teenage
boys are are systematically being targeted and it's almost as if a game is being played that they're deciding to
shoot the head today and the the neck tomorrow and the testicles the day after.
Yeah. And Nema, I wouldn't be at all surprised because as uh uh Misha Glenny
pointed out in his book McMafia, Tel Aviv being one of the top cities in the
world, criminal activities city, criminal activities like body organs,
sale of body organs. In fact, as I understand from talking to people like Misha that Israel is a leading state in
the body part business that that's got something to do with it. I don't know
that. But I mean, you know, let's don't shoot these parts today because they they're going for lots of money. Let's
shoot these parts. Um I wouldn't be surprised at that at all. That's how heinous, how despicable
this state has become. I I hesitate to even call them a state. They're disgusting. They have no right to be a
state. They have no right to be recognized by the United Nations. They should be declared an international
pariah criminal state and banned from all human activity that requires them to
interface with other people who are humans.
You're mute. You're muted. Yeah, we know that 25 countries are I'll get you a headset.
Yeah. Yeah. It's a
25 countries are somehow signing or going against what's going on
in Gaza. One of them is the United Kingdom. And here is what David Lami
said in his interview on BBC. As everyone at home will know, foreign
secretary. And on this program, we report and we show people at home some
really very distressing images at times. Not the worst to be fair, but we show
people what what we're able to show from inside Gaza. We had Save the Children on the program this morning talking about
the desperate desperate situation that people are in there. families not able to be safe where they are and also not
able to be safe to move to anywhere because moving is dangerous. The next place that is supposed to be safe isn't
safe at all. I just wonder on a human level when you watch the news. How do
you feel? You what's what's your reaction as foreign secretary? I feel the same as the British public.
Appalled, sickened. I described what I saw yesterday in Parliament as grotesque.
These are not words that are usually used by a foreign secretary who's
attempting to be diplomatic. But when you see innocent children holding out
their hand for food and you see them shot and killed in the way that we have
seen in the last few days, of course Britain must call it out. Of course
Britain mislead others in the statement as I did yesterday to call it out. Of course, we must get on the phone and we
must urge Israel to think again as I did again yesterday. And we will continue to
pressure. We will continue to act. We will continue to urge this Israeli
government to listen to 83% of its public who are urging them now to move
to a ceasefire so those hostages can come out. David Lammy, thanks very much indeed.
Thank you. Is the United Kingdom doing
anything to put pressure on Israel? I don't see anything significant. I
really don't. Uh, as I understand it, the commerce and such is still going on just as normal. Um, you know, I was
thinking as he was talking about, oddly enough, about uh 20 January 1942
and a conference in Wansi in Germany, orchestrated and run by Hitler's
right-hand killer, Reinhardt Hydrich, whom the checks would later assassinate.
Good that they did. Um, and that's where, of course, the final solution was
developed. And people forget that the records demonstrate that the final
solution was to ship Jews to Poland and there kill them.
That's essentially what Barnea and Netanyahu and some of the other radical
radical Zionists in Israel have done with regard to this humanitarian aid
killing ground. They have decided that this is the most efficient, effective,
quickest, smoothest, swiftest way to kill Palestinians, men, women, children,
babies, doesn't matter. Um, there's no difference, Nemo, between that meeting
in one Germany and the despicability we now look back on that meeting with and
this get together in Israel that developed the quote final solution
unquote. for Gaza. And oh, by the way, let's not forget the
West Bank where it's just as bad or worse.
Larry, the second part here is what Arachi said in his interview on Fox
News. It seems that they're somehow they're so obsessed that Iran wants to
assassinate Donald Trump. And I don't know what is how many times does do they
need to clarify on that they don't want to do this and here here is what she
said minister the Ayatollah has said death to America and that means death to
Trump that is from the supreme leader the New York Post had said the Iranian fatwa crowdfunding effort claims to have
raised $40 million for bounty on President Trump's head the campaign organized by a group known as the blood
covenant comes after multiple Iranian clerics issued fatwas or death warrants against Trump. So you can see why the
administration is looking at some of these signals saying that that you are doing that.
No, I think that they are all propagandas. You know, we have always said uh the supreme leader and and other
officials in Iran have always said that death to America is in fact death to the
you know hegemonic policies of the United States, not to the not to the
people of uh United States. Yes, there are some perhaps radical rad radicals
persons or groups here and there in in different places inside outside of Iran
who may say something like what you said but that has never been our policy and
they will never be in our policy in the future. This is not our policy to kill
anybody uh outside Iran let alone the president of of of another country.
You're muted. Why are they so obsessed with this question? Each and every time they're
finding an official from Iran, they're asking that you want to assassinate Donald Trump.
They get their intelligence from the same place John Bolton gets his intelligence and incidentally 40 or
$50,000 every time he talks to them. the mek, the mush,
they lie, they cheat, they steal, they will say anything, they will write anything to defame Iraq or Iran. Um
there's no truth in it. 90 90 plus% of the time um Iran would be absolutely
insane right now at this particular juncture in the relationship with the empire to try and assassinate Donald
Trump. Nema, mark my words here, BB Netanyahu
would conduct a false flag operation at the drop of a dime to make it look like
Donald Trump was hunted by the Iranians. I'm not saying he would shoot him or
kill him, but I am saying he would conduct a false flag and MSAD would be
right there doing it with him to make it look like the Iranians were trying to kill Donald Trump. I'm convinced the
incident in London and the incident in Buenesire were orchestrated by the Israelis to gain sympathy for them.
This is the sort of thing they do. So this is dangerous. This is extremely dangerous. What Fox is doing is acting
as a catalyst for that sort of thing to happen. They don't do their research. They don't do any kind of background
analysis. They they listen to the MEK as if it were the CIA.
It's crazy. I mean, that's where we are, Nema. In this country, that's where we are.
You mentioned the situation in Syria, Larry. We we know that
there are differences within the Dus community in in Syria. How what is the
role of Israel in somehow making these differences
bolder or maybe somehow trying to get closer to some of these
factions who were not so close to Israel in order to I don't know to fight the
government these it's not a government is gone in
unfortunately Syria But what can we understand from the
situation, the complexity of what's going on in Syria? I think Israel's number one strategic
objective with regard to Syria right now. And and just to put Iran aside for
a moment because it all boils down ultimately to Iran because that's the last real obstacle to Israel's hegemony
in the region and our hijgemony. Remember, we use Israel.
I think their objective in Syria right now is to get rid of the leader
ultimately to get rid of that leader because they don't like him. They don't think that he's ultimately going to be
aligned with their interests. He's too much of a
uh future possibility of opposition to Israel, effective opposition to Israel.
Unlike Assad, he's he's got a a tender base right now, if you will. I think um
I'm hearing a lot from Damascus about him and he's he's got to make sure that he can get every disparit element in
Syria as possible behind him and Israel has defamed him really. All that bombing
that Israel did, he hasn't got a whole lot left to fight Israel with. And this is the reason they did this, Nema.
That's the reason they did it. they were planning all along of taking more and more of Syria. Um, and so what they're
doing now is using the Drews, I think, and the Drews are somewhat reluctant in their uh what you might call the the the
the less than leadership of the Drews. I don't think they're very uh willing to
go along with this. But he's using money and he's using bribery and he's using
other methods that Israel is so good at using to convince the leadership at least that they are better off if they
side with him and with Israel at least on a temporary basis. Now, let me footnote that and say they would be
fools to do that because he will turn on them in a heartbeat when it becomes conducive for him to do so. All he wants
them to do right now is round up the their people as it were and make sure they don't oppose what Israel wants to
do. Um he doesn't want them in his rear when he goes deeper and deeper into Syria if they're antagonistic to him. He
would love to have the majority of them on his side as he goes on deeper into Syria, which he will do. I guarantee
you. Um, it's got to be though an ancillary
theater for him right now because he's got his hands full taking over Lebanon. And that's his goal to take over
Lebanon. Not just We built that largest. Why did we build the largest freaking
most expensive embassy in the world in Lebanon?
First of all, because it's not really a diplomatic place. It's a place for the
CIA, MSAD, MI6, and others to operate out of. Second of all, because we know
what Netanyahu is going to do, and we want a big place there to kind of watch
what he does because he's going to take over Lebanon. No doubt in my mind. Um,
he's also going to take over Jordan. This is what they planned at this final solution conference. They plan the
greater Israel and how they're going to affect it. They're going to push into Syria. The Drews will be allies if
possible initially and then they'll take care of the Drews. Once Erdogan awakens
to the fact that he's a day late and a dollar short, one wonders what will
happen there. Particularly since they're a member of NATO, such as NATO is today
and because they are trying to maintain their bonafites with the empire mistakenly I think but they are. They
don't want to go fully with China and Russia yet. So all of these dynamics in
the Levant are playing anti Netanyahu's plans right now. Um but I think
ultimately they're going to go they're going to go aunder and they're going to go aunderder on Iran. I really think
they are because he's going to bite off more than he can chew and he's going to drag the United States into that meal
and we're going to lose too. But as I've said so many times before, anywhere on
this arc of crisis where we begin to lose badly badly, and I'm talking we go
to conscription and nobody shows up for the draft and we are to totally out of
capability to do anything conventionally, watch out. That's what I've said before.
Watch out because we will go nuclear. Um, and you're talking about this entire
arc of crisis that we've created through proxies mainly suddenly becoming the
empire's responsibility to continue execution of. We can't we we simply
can't. Um, and Netanyahu is going to be caught up in that that it it's going to
be BB's last day, if you will, in the sun because his big daddy, his
orchestrator, his teacher, his real mentor,
the United States of America, is going to be in existential peril.
Israel will not survive. I know people think, well, you know,
yeah, oh, geez, World War II, um, that's great. That's the same way people were
thinking in 1914. Same way people were thinking. Impossible. Utterly impossible. And yet,
you had people who were orchestrating. Winston Churchill, for example, he knew
it was coming. He knew it was coming because he was prepping it. Others like him were prepping it. Others in France
were prepping it. They could not let Germany overwhelm
their restoration of their empire.
We cannot let China overwhelm the restoration of our empire. What have we
been doing since 9/11? But trying to restore our empire. Actually, since the end of the Cold War, trying to restore
our empire. And we've been failing at every approach. We've been failing.
We're not going to ever give that up. I'm afraid we cannot
go quietly into that second place position. We just can't.
Too many billionaires are against it.
And and China knows what's going on. Larry, here is what China did in the Financial Times.
It shows that how China's treasury holdings have fallen below those of the
United Kingdom. You see this red line goes up and coming down the blue line.
You see and this is this shows how how China is preparing. It's 2025 you
compared to 2010. from 2010 which would be the peak of the fight economic fight
econ economic war between the United States and China and here we are in 2025
how they have reduced it wait till you see where that line
for Japan goes with their new government. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is a real shock
for people like me who've been dealing with Japan for a half a century. I mean, I could have predicted it. I
could have said it was going to happen eventually, but it is happening now. And this is going to be an extremely
Donald Trump thinks he's conservative and nationalistic. This is going to be an extremely
conservative and nationalistic government in Tokyo. They're even trying to use immigration as a political tool.
Japan needs immigration. It's disappearing. And yet they're going to be successful because the they they are
on they're riding the tide of the Japanese people's sentiments.
They don't like immigration. So the world's shifting. It's shifting
as it's shifting so fast that our feet are coming out from under us.
China knows, I in my opinion, knows how to play the game. They know
when it comes to the foreign policy, when it comes to the role in the Middle East, in Ukraine, they know how to play.
The only damage with little friction with the United States that they're doing whatever they want to do.
Yeah. The only thing they've got to worry about, and I'm I'm quite sure Wong Yi I don't know Xi Jinping, but I'm
quite sure Wong Yi understands this is, you know, what the empire might do in
its fatal gasps, in its in its uh defeat. I mean, you
never know. You just never know. They've tried. Both both Putin and Xi
Jinping have tried in tandem and separately. They've tried to work out a
motus for Vendi for the you know to hold a hand out to the empire and say grasp
my hand and you won't go down as fast as you will otherwise.
In fact, we could cooperate and we could all work it out to where you don't
really go down at all except in comparison with us.
We'll do that. We'll do that for you. We have rebuffed every overdue and this
president we have right now hasn't a clue to what I'm talking about.
Larry Dr. Carlson had an interview with a
German journalist built and he asked him what is going on with
Germany? Why you're so much silent about
what's going on against Germany and the benefit of Germany and the future of Germany?
The guy doesn't know how to answer that. And I I I'm afraid that even the chancellor of Germany doesn't know how
to answer that. Why should he? What's his experience? His experience is, I would say,
ultra-conservative and black rock CEO. Um the only thing he knows about is the
bottom line. And the bottom line forged in a cauldron of
economic might that doesn't exist anymore. So I I just, you know, Germany
has been taken down. They really have. Yeah. Um starting with Nordstream before that
really, but the focus and the concentration was too
um retro, let's put it that way.
But Nordstream began the process of taking that retro focus and totally
unwinding it plus forcing a lot of the people who were bringing Germany into
the position of being such a m manufacturing giant out. Um and and
Germany's been spiraling down ever since. I don't I don't necessarily let
Angla Merkel off off the blame sheet either. Um she didn't do much about
this. Uh, and along come along came others who simply don't understand the
world they're living in, don't understand how to deal with that world,
and they don't understand their own populations either. um Europe's success in many respects
from the consolidation post World War II, the creation of NATO, the European
Union, all of that success was achieved because the people
were happy. Let's put it that way. I mean, I don't mean that literally so
much as I mean that they had a good system and their governments were working and they had education and they
had health care and they had lots of things to do and good jobs and good
manufacturing facilities and all of a sudden that's in jeopardy. in jeopardy
and leaders don't realize that and they don't realize that they're gone because
they don't realize that as soon as the elections are held they get rid of them. God knows what's going to replace them
though. um a friend of mine uh who is a pretty good European historian uh
officially and unofficially lived there 35 years or so too um in various
countries told me the other day it's looking more and more like the Europe of old you know where you're constantly
contesting with your neighboring state whether or not you're better than they are or they're better than you and
you're back to squabbbling you're back to uh pre-World War II Europe. Um I
don't think it's that bad, but I do think uh they've lost their way. And
these politicians they have right now from Merittz to Starmer to Macron and
others, Rout at uh NATO, they don't have a clue. They just don't have a clue.
They're not as circus clownish as Trump, but they don't have a clue to what's
happening all around them. They don't have a clue to the fact they're losing too. They're losing.
They're losing majorly. Um and were the three base road initiatives north,
central, and south to materialize overnight, then you'd have a situation,
Nema, that would be not unlike Russia's situation right now where it is so dominant
over Ukraine that the dynamics of that war might change.
So if all three of the BRRI were flowing,
the dynamics of that might change the whole point into which they flow. That is to
say, they'd swamp us. They'd swamp us and we would not only be the lesser in
terms of population and economic might, we would be much the lesser. I don't
think China wants that. I don't think Russia wants that. They want to sell their gas. They want to sell their
product. Um, and they don't want to destroy those who might comprise a great
market of of theirs. Um, but they can't deal with us consistently
and positively if we're idiots. And that's what we're being idiots.
Because with the increase of the military budget in European countries from 1.5% to 5%,
they're going the same way we're going. You know, we're over a trillion dollars now with the 150 billion that Congress
just plopped in at the last minute. We're over a trillion dollars. 60% of
that, Nema, 60% is going to contractors. No,
it's coming. It's all coming from the taxpayers, from the social security
programs, health care programs, and they're cutting because when it comes to
Europe is somehow the government if they do that and there somehow would be the
enemy, it would turn into the enemy of the public. I don't know how are they
thinking about it. Well, even Marjorie Taylor Green in her remarks, he is
emphasizing the fact that 22 resolutions were passed in the Congress affecting
Israel, zero affecting the American citizen.
That's crazy. But that's what we're doing. You could say the same thing about the defense budget. Where's that
money coming from? Well, it's coming from your table, your kitchen table. It's coming from your medical program.
It's coming from your insurance program. It's coming from from everything that right now is barely sustaining your life
if you're in the bottom 60%. Bottom 60%.
And it's going your bottom 90%. And it's going to whom? It's going to
RTX and Loheed Martin. Yeah.
It's unbelievable. You know, we're going to have a uh demonstration on the the uh the
triangle, the east side of the Capitol here in the United States on Thursday hopefully, and we're going to have some
congressmen with us. We hope they've said they're coming and we're going to feature doctors against genocide and
we're going to, you know, try to wake some people up again um about the
horrible situation in the in the Levant. I don't know that it's going to do much
good, but you know, these doctors against genocide will tell you some real tale like that British doctor you
interviewed or you showed the tape of, they'll tell you some real horror stories about drones flying into
surgical wards and looking around and blasting a baby on the surgical table.
This is Palunteer and Andrew and all those good guys who are designing this mosaic program that factors in 300,000
little pieces of detail that says, "Oh, it's Nema. He runs Dialogue Works. Shoot
him."
I somehow I I don't know if you saw the interview
that the head of Palunteer had. He's he was asked about the future of humanity.
He was something future. We're going to be something else. We're going to robots. We're going to
It's unbelievable. Billionaires in the background talking about headed up by Steve Miller talking
about nuclear war in terms of well, you know, the number one problem on the
globe is too many people. So, let's get rid of a couple billion
and we don't need them because robots and AI will take over.
These are weird people, if I can even use the word people to describe them.
And I were I in front of Steve Miller, I would have trouble calling him a
person. Yeah.
Thank you so much, Larry. We're going to wrap it up.
I'm sure your pleasure as always. Your listeners are going, "Oh god, doomsday."
No, because we have to be honest with what we're living in. Yeah, honesty is the best policy said
who Benjamin Franklin something like that. But it it is scary and people I
understand why people put cotton in their ears and don't want to listen or why they refuse to watch this live
stream from Gaza. If you got any humanity in you at all, how can you watch it and not want to do
something about it? Exactly.
Take care. Take care, Larry. See you soon. Yeah.

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Spying on Iran: How MI6 infiltrated the IAEA
by Kit Klarenberg
thegrayzone.com
July 1, 2025
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Leaked confidential files indicate the International Atomic Energy Agency was infiltrated by a veteran British spy who has claimed credit for sanctions on Iran. The documents lend weight to the Islamic Republic’s accusation that the nuclear watchdog secretly colluded with its enemies.

A notorious British MI6 agent infiltrated the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) on London’s behalf, according to leaked documents reviewed by The Grayzone. The agent, Nicholas Langman, is a veteran intelligence operative who claims credit for helping engineer the West’s economic war on Iran.

Langman’s identity first surfaced in journalistic accounts of his role in deflecting accusations that British intelligence played a role in the death of Princess Diana. He was later accused by Greek authorities of overseeing the abduction and torture of Pakistani migrants in Athens.

In both cases, UK authorities issued censorship orders forbidding the press from publishing his name. But Greek media, which was under no such obligation, confirmed that Langman was one of the MI6 assets withdrawn from Britain’s embassy in Athens.

The Grayzone discovered the résumé of the journeyman British operative in a trove of leaked papers detailing the activities of Torchlight, a prolific British intelligence cutout. The bio of the longtime MI6 officer reveals he “led large, inter-agency teams to identify and defeat the spread of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons technology, including by innovative technical means and sanctions.”

In particular, the MI6 agent says he “worked to prevent WMD proliferation through… support for the [IAEA] and Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons [OPCW] and through high level international partnerships.”

Langman’s CV credits him with playing a major role in organizing the sanctions regime on Iran by “[building] highly effective and mutually supportive relations across government and with senior US, European, Middle and Far Eastern colleagues for strategy” between 2010 and 2012. He boasts in his bio that this achievement “enabled [the] major diplomatic success of [the] Iranian nuclear and sanctions agreement.”

The influence Langman claimed to have exerted on the IAEA adds weight to Iranian allegations that the international nuclear regulation body colluded with the West and Israel to undermine its sovereignty. The Iranian government has alleged that the IAEA supplied the identities of its top nuclear scientists to Israeli intelligence, enabling their assassinations, and provided critical intelligence to the US and Israel on the nuclear facilities they bombed during their military assault this June.

This June 12, under the direction of its Secretary General Rafael Grossi, the IAEA issued a clearly politicized report recycling questionable past allegations to accuse Iran of violating the Non-Proliferation Treaty. The next day, Israel attacked the country, assassinating nine nuclear scientists as well as numerous top military officials and hundreds of civilians.

Iranian former Vice President for Strategic Affairs Javad Zarif has since called for the IAEA’s Grossi to be sacked, accusing him of having “abetted the slaughter of innocents in the country.” This June 28, the Iranian government broke ties with the IAEA, refusing to allow its inspectors into the country.

While Iranian officials may have had no idea about the involvement of a shadowy figure like Langman in IAEA business, it would likely come as little surprise to Tehran that the supposedly multilateral agency had been compromised by a Western intelligence agency.

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Langman’s name placed under official UK censorship order

In 2016, Langman was named a Companion of the Order of St Michael and St George, the same title bestowed on fictional British spy James Bond. By that point, the supposed secret agent held the dubious distinction of being publicly ‘burned’ as an MI6 operative on two separate occasions.

First, in 2001, journalist Stephen Dorril revealed that Langman had arrived in Paris weeks prior to Princess Diana’s fatal car crash in the city on August 31 1997, and was subsequently charged with conducting “information operations” to deflect widespread public speculation British intelligence was responsible for her death.

Then, in 2005, he was formally accused by Greek authorities of complicity in the abduction and torture of 28 Pakistanis in Athens. The Pakistanis, all migrant workers, were suspected of having had contact with individuals accused of perpetrating the 7/7 bombings in London, July 2005.

Brutally beaten and threatened with guns in their mouths, the victims “were convinced their interrogators were British.” When Greek media named Langman as the MI6 operative who oversaw the migrants’ torture, British news outlets universally complied with a government D-notice – an official censorship order – and kept his identity under wraps when reporting on the scandal.

London vehemently denied any British involvement in torturing the migrants, with then-Foreign Secretary Jack Straw dismissing the charge as “utter nonsense.” In January 2006 though, London admitted MI6 officers were indeed present during the Pakistanis’ torture, although officials insisted the operatives played no active part in their arrests, questioning or abuse.

Following his withdrawal from Athens, Langman returned to London to head the UK Foreign Office’s Iran Department, a shift which highlights his importance to MI6 and suggests the British government had no qualms about his allegedly brutal evidence gathering methods.

Britain’s Foreign Office collaborates closely with MI6, whose agents use it as cover just as the CIA does with State Department diplomatic postings.

MI6’s man on Iran takes credit for “maximum pressure” strategy

While leading the Foreign Office’s Iran Department from 2006 – 2008, Langman oversaw a team seeking to “develop understanding” of the Iranian government’s “nuclear program.”

It’s unclear exactly what that “understanding” entailed. But the document makes clear that Langman then “generated confidence” in that assessment among “European, US and Middle Eastern agencies” in order to “delay programme [sic] and pressurise Iran to negotiate.” The reference to “Middle Eastern agencies” strongly implied MI6 cooperation with Israel’s Mossad intelligence service.

In April 2006, Tehran announced it had successfully enriched uranium for the first time, although officials denied any intention to do so for military purposes. This development may have triggered Langman’s intervention.

The Islamic Republic has rejected any suggestion it harbors ambitions to possess nuclear weapons. Its denials were corroborated by a November 2007 US National Intelligence Estimate expressing “high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted” any and all research into nuclear weapons. This assessment remained unchanged for several years, and was reportedly shared by the Mossad, despite Benjamin Netanyhau’s constant declarations that Iran was on the brink of developing a nuclear weapon.

Langman’s IAEA support work overlaps with Iran sanctions blitz

International governmental attitudes towards Iran changed abruptly between 2010 and ‘12. During this period, Western states and intergovernmental institutions initiated an array of harshly punitive measures against the country, while Israel ramped up its deadly covert operations against Iran’s nuclear scientists.

This period precisely overlapped with Langman’s tenure at the Counter-Proliferation Centre of the UK Foreign Office. His bio implies he used this position to influence the IAEA and other UN-affiliated organizations to foment a campaign of global hostility towards Iran.

In June 2010, the UN Security Council adopted Resolution 1929, which froze the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps’ assets, and banned overseas financial institutions from opening offices in Tehran. A month later, the Obama administration adopted the Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act. This set off a global chain of copycat sanctions by Washington’s vassals, who often imposed even more stringent measures than those levied by the UN and US.

In March 2012, the EU voted unanimously to cut Iranian banks out of the SWIFT international banking network. That October, the bloc imposed the harshest sanctions to date, restricting trade, financial services, energy and technology, along with bans on the provision of insurance to Iranian companies by European firms.

BBC reporting on the sanctions acknowledged European officials merely suspected Tehran of seeking to develop nuclear weapons, but lacked concrete proof. And behind the scenes, the MI6 operative Langman was claiming credit for helping legitimize the allegations against Iran.

Nuclear agreement lays foundations for war

Following the Western-led campaign isolation of Iran from 2010 – 2012, over its purported nuclear weapon program, the Obama administration negotiated a July 2015 agreement known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). Under the JCPOA’s terms, the Islamic Republic agreed to limit its nuclear research activities in return for sanctions relief. In the years that followed, the IAEA was granted virtually unlimited access to Tehran’s nuclear complexes, ostensibly to ensure the facilities were not used to develop nuclear weapons.

Along the way, IAEA inspectors collected vast amounts of information on the sites, including surveillance camera photos, measurement data, and documents. The Iranian government has since accused the Agency of furnishing the top secret profiles of its nuclear scientists to Israel. These include the godfather of Iran’s nuclear program, Mohsen Fakrizadeh, who was first publicly named in a menacing 2019 powerpoint presentation by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The following year, the Mossad assassinated Fakrizadeh in broad daylight with a remote-controlled machine gun.

Internal IAEA documents leaked this June indicated that IAEA Secretary General Rafael Grossi has enjoyed a much closer relationship with Israeli officials than was previously known, and suggested he leveraged his cozy ties with Tel Aviv to secure his current position.

During a June 24 interview with Fox News’ war-crazed anchor Martha MacCallum, Grossi did not deny making the inflammatory claim that “900 pounds of potentially enriched uranium was taken to an ancient site near Isfahan.” Instead the IAEA director asserted, “We do not have any information on the whereabouts of this material.”

Well before Grossi rose to the top of the IAEA with Western and Israeli backing, the agency appears to have been penetrated by a British intelligence agent who took responsibility in his bio for engineering the West’s economic attack on Iran.

The IAEA has not responded to an email from The Grayzone seeking clarification on its relationship with Langman and the MI6.

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Trump, Epstein and the Deep State. The Trump administration’s refusal to release the Epstein files and videos is done not only to protect Trump, but the ruling class. They all belong to the same club.
by Chris Hedges
Jul 12, 2025

American Satyricon - by Mr. Fish

The refusal by the Trump administration to release the files and videos amassed during investigations into the activities of the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, should put to rest the absurd idea, embraced by Trump supporters and gullible liberals, that Trump will dismantle the Deep State. Trump is part of, and has long been part of, the repugnant cabal of politicians – Democrat and Republican – billionaires and celebrities who look at us, and often underage girls and boys, as commodities to exploit for profit or pleasure.

The list of those who were in Epstein’s orbit is a who’s who of the rich and famous. They include not only Trump, but Bill Clinton, who allegedly took a trip to Thailand with Epstein, Prince Andrew, Bill Gates, hedge fund billionaire Glenn Dubin, former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson, former Secretary of the Treasury and former president of Harvard University Larry Summers, cognitive psychologist and author Stephen Pinker, Alan Dershowitz, billionaire and Victoria’s Secret CEO Leslie Wexner, the former Barclays banker Jes Staley, former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, the magician David Copperfield, actor Kevin Spacey, former CIA director Bill Burns, real estate mogul Mort Zuckerman, former Maine senator George Mitchell and disgraced Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, who reveled in Epstein’s perpetual Bacchanalia.

They also include law firms and high-priced attorneys, federal and state prosecutors, private investigators, personal assistants, publicists, servants and drivers. They include the numerous procurers and pimps, including Epstein’s girlfriend and daughter of Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell. They include the media and politicians who ruthlessly discredited and silenced the victims, and strong armed anyone, including a handful of intrepid reporters, seeking to expose Epstein’s crimes and circle of accomplices.

There is a lot that remains hidden. But there are some things we know. Epstein installed hidden cameras in his opulent residences and on his private Caribbean island, Little St. James, to capture his high-powered friends engaging in sexual romps and abuse of teenage and underage girls and boys. The recordings were blackmail gold. Were they part of an intelligence operation on behalf of the Israeli Mossad? Or were they used to ensure that Epstein had a steady source of investors who funneled him millions of dollars to avoid being outed? Or were they used for both? He shuttled underage girls between New York and Palm Beach on his private jet the Lolita Express, which was allegedly outfitted with a bed for group sex. His coterie of famous friends, including Clinton and Trump, are recorded as traveling on the jet numerous times on released flight logs, although many other flight logs have disappeared.

Jeffrey Epstein Client List, by Ryan Dawson: Page One
https://www.youtube.com/@RyanDawson109
https://sonar21.com/the-epstein-client-%20...%20o-publish/
The Epstein Client List — Why is Trump Breaking His Promise to Publish?, by Larry C. Johnson, 9 July 2025

Epstein’s videos are in the vaults of the FBI, along with detailed evidence that would rip back the veil on the sexual proclivities and callousness of the powerful. I doubt there is a client list, as Attorney General Pam Bondi claims. There is also no single Epstein file. The investigative material amassed on Epstein fills many, many boxes, which would bury Bondi’s desk and probably, if collected in one room, dominate most of the space in her office.

Did Epstein commit suicide, as the official autopsy report claims, by hanging himself in his jail cell on August 10, 2019 at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City? Or was he murdered? Since the cameras recording activity in his cell the night were not functional, we do not know. Michael Baden, a forensic pathologist hired by Epstein's brother, who served as the chief medical examiner for New York City and who was present at the autopsy, said he believes Epstein's autopsy suggests homicide.

The Epstein case is important because it implodes the fiction of deep divisions between Democrats, who had no more interest in releasing the Epstein files than Trump, and the Republicans. They belong to the same club. It exposes how the courts and law enforcement agencies collude to shield powerful figures who engage in crimes. It lays bare the depravity of our exhibitionist ruling class, accountable to no one, free to violate, plunder, loot and prey on the weak and the vulnerable. It is the tawdry record of our oligarchic masters, those who lack the capacity for shame or guilt, whether dressed up as Donald Trump or Joe Biden.

-- Satyricon -- Illustrated Screenplay, directed by Federico Fellini, © 1968 Alberto Grimaldi Productions, S.A.
CLICK HERE TO SEE "SATYRICON" -- ILLUSTRATED SCREENPLAY

This class of ruling parasites was parodied in the first-century satirical novel “Satyricon” by Gaius Petronius Arbiter, written during the reigns of Caligula, Claudius, and Nero. As in Satyricon, Epstein’s circle was dominated by pseudointellectuals, pretentious buffoons, grifters, con artists, petty criminals, the insatiable rich and the sexually depraved. Epstein and his inner circle routinely engaged in sexual perversions of Petronian proportions, as The Miami Herald investigative reporter Julie Brown, whose dogged reporting was largely responsible for reopening the federal investigation in Epstein and Maxwell, documents in her book “Perversion of Justice: The Jeffrey Epstein Story.”

As Brown writes, in 2016 an anonymous woman, using the pseudonym “Kate Johnson,” filed a civil complaint in a federal court in California alleging she was raped by Trump and Epstein when she was thirteen, over a four-month period, from June to September 1994.

FILED: 2016 APR 26 AM 11:12

https://ia601203.us.archive.org/26/item ... 85.1.0.pdf

Case Number: ED CV16-00797 DMG *(KSX)

Name: KATIE JOHNSON
Address: 6634 DESERT QUEEN AVE.
TWENTYNINE PALMS, CA. 92277
Phone: (760) 401-0192
Fax: NO FAX OR E-MAIL
In Pro Per

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

KATIE JOHNSON,
Plaintiff
v.
DONALD J. TRUMP and JEFFREY E. EPSTEIN,
Defendant(s).

COMPLAINT FOR CLAIM RELIEF DUE TO:
1. SEXUAL ABUSE UNDER THREAT OF HARM
2. CONSPIRACY TO DEPRIVE CIVIL RIGHTS

Plaintiff Katie Johnson, for causes of actions against Defendants Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, alleges as follows:

JURISDICTION

1. Jurisdiction is pursuant to the law of Diversity, 28 U.S.C; 1332, as plaintiff resides in the state of California while defendants reside in the state of New York and the action is for damages above $75,000.

VENUE

2. The venue is established as the Eastern Division of the United States Court Central District of California because the plaintiff resides in San Bernadino County, State of California.

PARTIES

3. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, resides in the State of California.

4. The Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, each reside in the State of New York.

FACTUAL ALLEGATIONS

5. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges that the Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, did willfully and with extreme malice violate her Civil Rights under 18 U.S.C ; 2241 by sexually and physically abusing Plaintiff Johnson by forcing her to engage in various perverted and depraved sex acts by threatening physical harm to Plaintiff Johnson and also her family.

6. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges that the Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, also did willfully and with extreme malice violate her Civil Rights under 42 U.S.C.; 1985 by conspiring to deny Plaintiff Johnson her Civil Rights by making her their sex slave.

7. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges she was subject to extreme sexual and physical abuse by the Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, including forcible rape during a four month time span covering the months of June-September 1994 when Plaintiff Johnson was still only a minor of age 13.

8. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges she was enticed by promises of money and a modeling career to attend a series of underage sex parties held at the New York City residence of Defendant Jeffrey E. Epstein and attended by Defendant Donald J. Trump.

9. On the first occasion involving the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was forced to manually stimulate Defendant Trump with the use of her hand upon Defendant Trump's erect penis until he reached sexual orgasm.

10. On the second occasion involving the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was forced to orally copulate Defendant Trump by placing her mouth upon Defendant Trump's erect penis until he reached sexual orgasm.

11. On the third occasion involving the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson was forced to engage in an unnatural lesbian sex act with her fellow minor and sex slave, Maria Doe age 12, for the sexual enjoyment of Defendant Trump. After this sex act, both minors were forced to orally copulate Defendant Trump by placing their mouths simultaneously on his erect penis until he achieved sexual orgasm. After zipping up his pants, Defendant Trump physically pushed both minors away while angrily berating them for the "poor" quality of their sexual performance.

12. On the fourth and final sexual encounter with the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was tied to a bed by Defendant Trump who then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff Johnson. During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff Johnson loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to "please wear a condom". Defendant Trump responded by violently striking Plaintiff Johnson in the face with his open hand and screaming that "he would do whatever he wanted" as he refused to wear protection. After achieving sexual orgasm, the Defendant, Donald J. Trump put his suit back on and when the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, in tears asked Defendant Trump what would happen if he had impregnated her, Defendant Trump grabbed his wallet and threw some money at her and screamed that she should use the money "to get a fucking abortion".

13. On the first occasion involving the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was forced to disrobe into her bra and panties and to give a full body massage to Defendant Epstein while he was completely naked. During the massage, Defendant Epstein physically forced Plaintiff Johnson to touch his erect penis with her bare hands and to clean up his ejaculated semen after he achieved sexual orgasm.

14. On the second occasion involving the Defendant, Jeffrey Epstein, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson was again forced to disrobe into her bra and panties while giving Defendant Epstein a full body massage while he was completely naked. The Defendant, Donald J. Trump, was also present as he was getting his own massage from another minor, Jane Doe, age 13. Defendant Epstein forced Plaintiff Johnson to touch his erect penis by physically placing her bare hands upon his sex organ and again forced Plaintiff Johnson to clean up his ejaculated semen after he achieved sexual orgasm.

5. Shortly after this sexual assault by the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, on the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, Plaintiff Johnson was still present while the two Defendants were arguing over who would be the one to take Plaintiff Johnson's virginity. The Defendant, Donald J. Trump, was clearly heard referring to Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, as a "Jew Bastard" as he yelled at Defendant Epstein, that clearly, he, Defendant Trump, should be the lucky one to "pop the cherry" of Plaintiff Johnson.

16. The third and final sexual assault by the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, on the Plaintiff, Kati Johnson, took place after Plaintiff Johnson had been brutally and savagely raped by Defendant Trump. While receiving another full body massage from Plaintiff Johnson, while in the nude, Defendant Epstein became so enraged after finding out that Defendant Trump had been the one to take Plaintiff Johnson's virginity, that Defendant Epstein also violently raped Plaintiff Johnson. After forcing Plaintiff Johnson to disrobe into her bra and panties, while receiving a massage from the Plaintiff, Defendant Epstein attempted to enter Plaintiff Johnson's anal cavity with his erect penis while trying to restrain her. Plaintiff Johnson attempted to push Defendant Epstein away, at which time Defendant Epstein attempted to enter Plaintiff Johnson's vagina with his erect penis. This attempt to brutally sodomize and rape Plaintiff Johnson by Defendant Epstein was finally repelled by Plaintiff Johnson but not before Defendant Epstein was able to achieve sexual orgasm. After perversely sodomizing and raping the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, attempted to strike her about the head with his closed fists while he angrily screamed at Plaintiff Johnson that he, Defendant Epstein, should have been the one who "took her cherry, not Mr. Trump", before she finally managed to break away from Defendant Epstein.

17. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was fully warned on more than one occasion by both Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, that were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse that she had suffered as a sex slave for Defendant Trump and Defendant Epstein, that Plaintiff Johnson and her family would be in mortal danger. Plaintiff Johnson was warned that this would mean certain death for herself and Plaintiff Johnson's family unless she remained silent forever on the exact details of the depraved and perverted sexual and physical abuse she had been forced to endure from the Defendants.

MATERIAL WITNESSES

18. Tiffany Doe, a former trusted employee of the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, has agreed to provide sworn testimony in this civil case and any other future civil or criminal proceedings, fully verifying the authenticity of the claims of the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson. Witness Tiffany Doe was employed by the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, for more than 10 years as a party planner for his underage sex parties. Despite being subject to constant terroristic threats by Defendants Epstein and Trump to never reveal the details of these underage sex parties at which scores of teenagers, and pre-teen girls were used as sex slaves by Defendant Epstein and Defendant Trump, witness Tiffany Doe refuses to be silent any longer. She has agreed to fully reveal the extent of the sexual perversion and physical cruelty that she personally witnessed at these parties by Defendants Epstein and Trump.

19. Material witness Tiffany Doe fully confirms all of Plaintiff Katie Johnson's allegations of physical and sexual abuse by Defendants Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein. Tiffany Doe was physically present at each of the four occasions of sexual abuse by Defendant Trump upon the person of Plaintiff Johnson, as it was her job to witness all of the sexual escapades of Defendant Epstein's guests at these underage sex parties and later reveal all of the sordid details directly to Defendant Epstein. Defendant Epstein also demanded that Tiffany Doe tell him personally everything she had overheard at these parties explaining to her that "knowledge was king" in the financial world.  As a result of these underage sex parties, Defendant Epstein was able to accumulate inside business knowledge that he otherwise would never have been privy to in order to amass his huge personal fortune.

20. Material witness Tiffany Doe will testify that she was also present or had direct knowledge of each of the three instances on which Defendant Jeffrey E. Epstein physically and sexually abused the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson. Tiffany Doe will testify to the fact that the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was extremely fortunate to have survived all of the physical and sexual horrors inflicted upon her by Defendants Epstein and Trump.

21. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, asks the court for relief against the Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, in the amount of $100,000,000.00 (One Hundred Million Dollars) as a result of the Defendants aforementioned acts upon which they willfully and maliciously violated the Civil Rights of the Plaintiff as stated in 18 U.S.C ; 2241 by sexually and physically abusing the then 13 year old Plaintiff Johnson under threat of harm to her and her family, and 42 U.S.C ; 1985 by the Defendants conspiring to deny the Civil Rights of Plaintiff Johnson by making her their sex slave.

Dated: April 26, 2016

KATIE JOHNSON

By _______________

Plaintiff Katie Johnson
Appearing In Pro Per
 

“I loudly pleaded with Trump to stop,” she said in the lawsuit about being raped. “Trump responded to my pleas by violently striking me in the face with his open hand and screaming that he could do whatever he wanted.”

Brown continues:

Johnson said that Epstein invited her to a series of ‘underage sex parties’ at his New York mansion where she met Trump. Enticed by promises of money and modeling opportunities, Johnson said she was forced to have sex with Trump several times, including once with another girl, twelve years old, whom she labeled ‘Marie Doe.’

Trump demanded oral sex, the lawsuit said, and afterward he “pushed both minors away while angrily berating them for the ‘poor’ quality of the sexual performance,” according to the lawsuit, filed April 26 in U.S. District Court in Central California.

Afterward, when Epstein learned that Trump had taken Johnson’s virginity, Epstein allegedly ‘attempted to strike her about the head with his closed fists,’ angry he had not been the one to take her virginity. Johnson claimed that both men threatened to harm her, and her family if she ever revealed what had happened.

The lawsuit states that Trump did not take part in Epstein’s orgies but liked to watch, often while the thirteen-year-old “Kate Johnson” gave him a hand job.

It appears Trump was able to quash the lawsuit by buying her silence. She has since disappeared.

In 2008, Alex Acosta, who at the time was the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, negotiated a plea deal for Epstein. The deal granted immunity from all federal criminal charges to Epstein, four named co-conspirators and any unnamed “potential co-conspirators.” The agreement shut down the FBI probe into whether there were more victims and other powerful figures who took part in Epstein’s sex crimes. It halted the investigation and sealed the indictment. Trump, in what many consider an act of gratitude, appointed Acosta as Secretary of Labor in his first term.

Trump contemplated pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell after she was arrested in July 2020, fearing she would reveal details of his decades-long friendship with Epstein, according to Trump biographer Michael Wolff. In July 2022, Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years in prison.

“Jeffrey Epstein’s closest relationship in life was with Donald Trump…these were two guys joined at the hip for a good 15 years. They did everything together,” Wolff told host Joanna Coles on The Daily Beast Podcast. “And this is from sharing, pursuing women, hunting women, sharing at least one girlfriend for at least a year in this kind of rich-guy relationship with each other’s planes, to Epstein advising Trump on how to cheat on his taxes.”

The legal anomalies, including the disappearance of massive amounts of evidence incriminating Epstein, saw Epstein avoid federal sex-trafficking charges in 2007, when his attorneys negotiated the secret plea deal with Acosta. He was able to plead guilty to lesser state charges of soliciting a minor for prostitution.

The prominent men accused of engaging in Epstein’s carnival of pedophilia, including Epstein’s attorney Dershowitz, viciously threaten anyone who seeks to expose them. Dershowitz, for example, claims that an investigation which he has refused to make public, by the former FBI director Louis Freeh, proves he had never had sex with Epstein’s victim Virginia Giuffre, who was trafficked at 17 to Prince Andrew. Giuffre, one of the few victims to publicly take on her abusers, said she was “passed around like a platter of fruit” among Epstein and Maxwell’s friends, until at the age of 19 when she escaped. She “committed suicide” in April 2025. Dershowitz has sent repeated threats to Brown and her editors at The Miami Herald.

Brown continues:

[Dershowitz] kept referring to information that was contained in sealed documents. He accused the newspaper of not reporting “facts” that he said were in those sealed documents. The truth is, I tried to explain, newspapers just can’t write about things because Alan Dershowitz says they exist. We need to see them. We need to verify them. Then, because I said “show me the material,” he publicly accused me of committing a criminal act by asking him to produce documents that were under court seal.

This is the way Dershowitz operates.

What disturbs me the most about Dershowitz is the way that the media, with few exceptions, fails to critically challenge him. Journalists fact-checked Donald Trump and others in his administration almost every day, yet, for the most part, the media seems to give Dershowitz a pass on the Epstein story.

In 2015, when Giuffre’s allegations first became public, Dershowitz went on every television program imaginable swearing, among other things, that Epstein’s plane logs would exonerate him. “How do you know that?” he was asked.

He replied that he was never on Epstein’s plane during the time that Virginia was involved with Epstein.

But if the media had checked, they could have learned that he was indeed a passenger on the plane during that time period, according to the logs.

Then he testified, in a sworn deposition, that he never went on any plane trips without his wife. But he was listed on those passage manifests as traveling multiple times without his wife. During at least one trip, he was on the plane with a model named Tatiana.

Epstein donated money to Harvard and was made a visiting fellow in Harvard’s Department of Psychology, although he had no academic qualifications in the field. He was given a key card and pass code, as well as an office in the building that housed Harvard’s Program for Evolutionary Dynamics. He referred to himself in his press releases as “Science Philanthropist Jeffrey Epstein,” “Education activist Jeffrey Epstein,” “Evolutionary Jeffrey Epstein,” “Science patron Jeffrey Epstein” and “Maverick hedge funder Jeffrey Epstein.”

Epstein, replicating the pretensions and vacuity of the characters who were parodied in the “Dinner with Trimalchio” chapter of Satyricon, organized elaborate dinner gatherings for his billionaire friends, including Elon Musk, Salar Kamangar and Jeff Bezos. He dreamed up bizarre schemes of social engineering, including a plan to seed the human species with his own DNA by creating a baby compound at his sprawling ranch in New Mexico.

“Epstein was also obsessed with cryonics, the transhumanist philosophy whose followers believe that people can be replicated or brought back to life after they are frozen,” Brown writes. “Epstein apparently told some of the members of his scientific circle that he wanted to inseminate women with his sperm for them to give birth to his babies, and that he wanted his head and his penis frozen.”

The Epstein story is a window into the moral bankruptcy, hedonism and greed of the ruling class. This crosses political lines. It is the common denominator between Democratic politicians, such as Bill Clinton, philanthropists, such as Bill Gates, the billionaire class, and Trump. They are one class of predators and grifters. It is not only girls and women they exploit, but all of us.

 

“I loudly pleaded with Trump to stop,” she said in the lawsuit about being raped. “Trump responded to my pleas by violently striking me in the face with his open hand and screaming that he could do whatever he wanted.”

Brown continues:

Johnson said that Epstein invited her to a series of ‘underage sex parties’ at his New York mansion where she met Trump. Enticed by promises of money and modeling opportunities, Johnson said she was forced to have sex with Trump several times, including once with another girl, twelve years old, whom she labeled ‘Marie Doe.’

Trump demanded oral sex, the lawsuit said, and afterward he “pushed both minors away while angrily berating them for the ‘poor’ quality of the sexual performance,” according to the lawsuit, filed April 26 in U.S. District Court in Central California.

Afterward, when Epstein learned that Trump had taken Johnson’s virginity, Epstein allegedly ‘attempted to strike her about the head with his closed fists,’ angry he had not been the one to take her virginity. Johnson claimed that both men threatened to harm her, and her family if she ever revealed what had happened.

The lawsuit states that Trump did not take part in Epstein’s orgies but liked to watch, often while the thirteen-year-old “Kate Johnson” gave him a hand job.

It appears Trump was able to quash the lawsuit by buying her silence. She has since disappeared.

In 2008, Alex Acosta, who at the time was the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, negotiated a plea deal for Epstein. The deal granted immunity from all federal criminal charges to Epstein, four named co-conspirators and any unnamed “potential co-conspirators.” The agreement shut down the FBI probe into whether there were more victims and other powerful figures who took part in Epstein’s sex crimes. It halted the investigation and sealed the indictment. Trump, in what many consider an act of gratitude, appointed Acosta as Secretary of Labor in his first term.

Trump contemplated pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell after she was arrested in July 2020, fearing she would reveal details of his decades-long friendship with Epstein, according to Trump biographer Michael Wolff. In July 2022, Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years in prison.

“Jeffrey Epstein’s closest relationship in life was with Donald Trump…these were two guys joined at the hip for a good 15 years. They did everything together,” Wolff told host Joanna Coles on The Daily Beast Podcast. “And this is from sharing, pursuing women, hunting women, sharing at least one girlfriend for at least a year in this kind of rich-guy relationship with each other’s planes, to Epstein advising Trump on how to cheat on his taxes.”

The legal anomalies, including the disappearance of massive amounts of evidence incriminating Epstein, saw Epstein avoid federal sex-trafficking charges in 2007, when his attorneys negotiated the secret plea deal with Acosta. He was able to plead guilty to lesser state charges of soliciting a minor for prostitution.

The prominent men accused of engaging in Epstein’s carnival of pedophilia, including Epstein’s attorney Dershowitz, viciously threaten anyone who seeks to expose them. Dershowitz, for example, claims that an investigation which he has refused to make public, by the former FBI director Louis Freeh, proves he had never had sex with Epstein’s victim Virginia Giuffre, who was trafficked at 17 to Prince Andrew. Giuffre, one of the few victims to publicly take on her abusers, said she was “passed around like a platter of fruit” among Epstein and Maxwell’s friends, until at the age of 19 when she escaped. She “committed suicide” in April 2025. Dershowitz has sent repeated threats to Brown and her editors at The Miami Herald.

Brown continues:

[Dershowitz] kept referring to information that was contained in sealed documents. He accused the newspaper of not reporting “facts” that he said were in those sealed documents. The truth is, I tried to explain, newspapers just can’t write about things because Alan Dershowitz says they exist. We need to see them. We need to verify them. Then, because I said “show me the material,” he publicly accused me of committing a criminal act by asking him to produce documents that were under court seal.

This is the way Dershowitz operates.

What disturbs me the most about Dershowitz is the way that the media, with few exceptions, fails to critically challenge him. Journalists fact-checked Donald Trump and others in his administration almost every day, yet, for the most part, the media seems to give Dershowitz a pass on the Epstein story.

In 2015, when Giuffre’s allegations first became public, Dershowitz went on every television program imaginable swearing, among other things, that Epstein’s plane logs would exonerate him. “How do you know that?” he was asked.

He replied that he was never on Epstein’s plane during the time that Virginia was involved with Epstein.

But if the media had checked, they could have learned that he was indeed a passenger on the plane during that time period, according to the logs.

Then he testified, in a sworn deposition, that he never went on any plane trips without his wife. But he was listed on those passage manifests as traveling multiple times without his wife. During at least one trip, he was on the plane with a model named Tatiana.

Epstein donated money to Harvard and was made a visiting fellow in Harvard’s Department of Psychology, although he had no academic qualifications in the field. He was given a key card and pass code, as well as an office in the building that housed Harvard’s Program for Evolutionary Dynamics. He referred to himself in his press releases as “Science Philanthropist Jeffrey Epstein,” “Education activist Jeffrey Epstein,” “Evolutionary Jeffrey Epstein,” “Science patron Jeffrey Epstein” and “Maverick hedge funder Jeffrey Epstein.”

Epstein, replicating the pretensions and vacuity of the characters who were parodied in the “Dinner with Trimalchio” chapter of Satyricon, organized elaborate dinner gatherings for his billionaire friends, including Elon Musk, Salar Kamangar and Jeff Bezos. He dreamed up bizarre schemes of social engineering, including a plan to seed the human species with his own DNA by creating a baby compound at his sprawling ranch in New Mexico.

“Epstein was also obsessed with cryonics, the transhumanist philosophy whose followers believe that people can be replicated or brought back to life after they are frozen,” Brown writes. “Epstein apparently told some of the members of his scientific circle that he wanted to inseminate women with his sperm for them to give birth to his babies, and that he wanted his head and his penis frozen.”

The Epstein story is a window into the moral bankruptcy, hedonism and greed of the ruling class. This crosses political lines. It is the common denominator between Democratic politicians, such as Bill Clinton, philanthropists, such as Bill Gates, the billionaire class, and Trump. They are one class of predators and grifters. It is not only girls and women they exploit, but all of us.

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Former Inmate From Epstein Prison RIPS Coverup
by Ryan and Emily
Breaking Points
Jul 23, 2025 Breaking Points

Ryan and Emily are joined by a former inmate in Epstein's jail to discuss a shady coverup.



Transcript

So, one thing that's missing from the
coverage of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal
is the voices of people who served in
the Metropolitan Correctional Center
with him or near the time that
where he met his end. And so, to try to
rectify that we're joined now by
journalist, activist, and former MCC
inmate Martin Goddisfeld. Marty, thank
you so much for joining us.

No problem, Ryan. Thank you for having
me.

So to set the stage here, can you talk
about uh the time that you served inside
the uh MCC and how that relates to uh
Jeffrey Epstein's time there?

Okay. So I was there from November 2016
to early February 2017. Epstein died
there about two and a half years after I
left. But at the time I arrived at MCC,
um Epstein had not yet been there. El
Chapo had not yet been held there and
the facility was really kind of flying
under the radar. Uh people really
weren't aware even though that you know
attorneys and uh prisoners had been
active trying to reform the facility for
a long time. The facility was already
dilapidated. The staff were already out
of control. Disaster was very clearly on
the horizon. Anyone could see it.
And at the time I was a contributor for Huff
Post and you were my editor there and we
published you know quite a bit about the
facility um before it rose to national
prominence. Um, and so we were really
kind of like the early warning system
that, you know, something was very
likely to happen here.

All right. And so one of Epstein's,
tell us about your your connection to
one of, uh, Epstein's cellmates.
So, uh, Epste's, I understand, was
Epste's first cellmate, uh, Nick
Tartagleon. I was in the shoe on G tier.
So, the shoes got like different Pauls.
They're called tiers, right? Where you
can have cells, right? And like Gt tier
in that shoe is like the most elite.
It's where the highprofile guys uh tend
to go. And so I was already on G tier
when Tartagleó uh came in like was
arrested fresh off the street. Had
never, you know, seen a jail cell from
the inside before. He was a cop. So, you
know, he had uh seen lockup, but had
never actually experienced it for
himself. Um, and then um, you know, I
understand that Nick was not Epstein's
cellmate at the time of the death. I
think that's important to underscore
here,
right?
Yeah.
So, what can you tell us about the the
way that the cameras work? Um, and
I can tell you a lot.

And and we have this on A5, by the way.
We can loop this. This is the
video that Pam Bondi released. And
Marty, you've certainly seen this by
now. It's obviously, as Wired has
said, spliced together. It's missing
a second and now people are actually
saying Ryan three seconds. So
three minutes three minutes. Yeah, I'm
sorry.

Yeah. And they tried to explain away one
minute as like a nightly systems reboot,
but then there's apparently two other
minutes. I should I should add I've
not double checked the digital forensics
on this myself. One thing given my
background, the government alleges I'm a
hacker with anonymous and that I
single-handedly orchestrated one of the
largest cyber attacks the government had
ever seen. So, I just have to say I've
not double checked the digital forensics
on this. So, I'm I'm going off of
what Ward wrote. Yeah. To my
understanding there's no meaningful
contradiction like no one's come forward
with an alternative theory or whatever,
but I can't personally vouch
for
um you know the digital forensics on the
files. But I mean that's a view from
another tier.

And so the tiers
are stacked like one on top of another,
and they're in different like arms
shooting off from the main area in the
shoe. And you can see the officer
station there visible from that
tier. But obviously there's no cell
doors, right? And so this doesn't really
make a lot of sense. The video is not
particularly useful for anything. And
and in that shoe, just so you guys know,
because this is something that's that's
not been covered. There's a camera in
every cell.
And on Gtier, there's a cam. There's two
cameras in every cell. And the problem
is that guys cover them up, right? like
you're you're trying to use the
bathroom, there's a camera pointing at
you. Like, what are you going to do? You
cover the camera up, right? And so,
pretty much at any given time, any
occupied cell in that shoe, the camera's
covered. Now, that's against policy, but
the facility, I mean, what are they
going to do? Send a team to every single
cell every single day to uncover these
cameras? Because the guys will just
cover them back up again.

You also expect that they would have
cameras in the hallway, that we would
have a camera that's facing Epstein's cell
door, right? And there's no explanation
given for why that tape is missing, or
you know what happened to that camera,
and they're trying to say the the
cameras weren't working. The DVR
system had problems with the hard
drives.

Okay in the floor above.
that shoe is the 10 South special
administrative measures unit. Okay. This
is national security stuff. This is like
where the 911 guys were held. These are
the guys who don't even get attorney
client privilege. Even their attorney
client meetings, their visits
with their attorneys, are listened in
on by DOJ, right? This is the highest of
high security and they're saying
that, you know, the floor right below it,
that the 10
South unit had no working cameras, or the
the drives are bad? You know, Epstein
died a month, two months after El Chapo
left. It strikes me as
very unlikely the cameras would be
allowed to get into that position and
very scary if in fact if they were.

So what's your sense of knowing people who kind of come in
and out of that place? What's your sense
of whether or not he would have been
in a state of mind to have given up
on his his defense? like you've seen
other white collar
criminals come and go, because one argument is this
guy felt like his life was over.
And so that's a reason why he would
just take his life.
You know, he had this high-flying life,
jets, mansions,
partying, the the elites, and now all of
a sudden he's here. So it makes sense
that he would just be like, you know
what, I'm out of here. I I cannot take
this abrupt shift. What's
your read on knowing other
people who've gone through that
situation?\

First, I obviously can't comment to his
particular state of mind or or his
mental health. Right. I can say
that generally speaking, I have two
problems with the narrative that he
took his own life.
The first is that any good
attorney would have told him that he's
got two things that are very important
going for him. First, he's got the money
to retain a vigorous defense team,
right? And this can really matter
because, like I put in my write
up. You only need look as far as Sean
Diddy Combs, right? Who just beat
federal sex trafficking charges in the
same courthouse brought by the same
prosecutors who are going after Epstein,
right? He had a big legal team. He did
it. You know, if you read the media and
the press, you would have thought he was
done for. But, you know, he had the
money for the lawyers, and they squeaked
it out, right? So, I don't really
buy it. And you know, Sean, you know,
Combs, he didn't hang or kill
himself. It's called hanging it
up in prison parlance, but he didn't
do it, right? Facing a very similar
racket in the same courthouse. They
actually held him in a different
slightly different facility, but it's
also you know, very poor conditions.
It's the ADX Max shoe in Brooklyn. I've
also done time there. I've done time in
the shoe where Diddy was, and time
where Epstein was. So, you know what
I mean? Like, he didn't hang it up.

And
then as to the second thing is that
Epstein was in a position potentially
to cut a deal either with the Trump
administration or with some future
administration. He had no shortage of
people that he could have informed
on, right? And there's actually a
federal rule of criminal procedure. It's
rule 35B, right? Where the court can depart downward, can
give a a much lighter sentence. It can give a sentence lower than the
statutory minimum. So even if he was
facing like say a statutory minimum of
10 years, the court could go below that
statutory minimum, if he had provided
substantial assistance in prosecuting
another individual, right? And so the
guys that you think of in prison as
being desperate enough to take their own
lives are generally the ones, right,
whose all their boys have fingered them
out, right? Everyone's ran it on them.
They have no one left to sell out for a
deal, right? That's the guy who's in my
opinion the very large suicide risk.

You know, here's the other thing too.
Epstein was a Wall Street quant, right?
And if you do any game theory study,
you hear about the prisoners dilemma,
which is basically the question of, you
know, do you rat someone else out in
jail?
It's one of the core exercises in game
theory, I'm sure Epstein was familiar with
it. It would be very unlikely
in my mind that he would not have heard
of the prisoners dilemma. And so, you
know, I've got these problems with with
the narrative.

And from your understanding of the
layout of the jail,
does the footage that we have cover
all the ways in and out, or
would there have been other ways that
people could move around?

Also, the footage doesn't even show the
main entrance to the shoe.
That camera does not even show the
main entrance to the shoe. The main
entrance to that shoe actually has
written above it, or had written above it
when I was there,
'America's
strongest shoe." It says that right as
you walk into that shoe,
right?
So if it showed the front door,
that's what it would show. This is the
footage from some ancillary tier that is
again, it's built with
this central region where you have
like a little law library cage, and you
have the officer station, and then
there are hallways shooting off in
different directions, and they're stacked
one on top of the other. So you'll have
Gtier above H tier, right? Like J
tier above I tier, right? And they shoot
off in all these different directions.
The narration of the footage that I've
seen shows that Epstein's tier was
somewhere way to the right
of the footage that's been released,
right? And there should be another tier
camera like the camera that you're
seeing here, right? It's recording the
people walking onto a tier,
the entrance of which is below the
camera, right? So, anyone coming onto
this tier has to cross this camera and
be seen. There should be a camera just
like that on the tier where Epstein's
cell actually was, but we've not seen
footage from that camera.

And so, are there other things um as
you've thought about this for years now
about the facility that people don't
know like that you wouldn't know if you
were just sort of a member of the public
that influenced the way you see the
allegation that Jeffrey Epste killed
himself? like are there things going on
there that
make you see this story differently than
if you if you've never stepped foot
inside the shoe uh people would see it?
I think mostly the stuff that I' I've
gone over um I mean obviously knowing
the facility itself and having
experienced the staff uh you know and
you can this is all public record I
published it back in 2016 and 2017 at
Huffost and Shadowproof and uh we
dropped an article at the Intercept I
think in 2018 or 2019
right um so you know it's all out there
but you know the I sued over this
facility I filed in federal court um
because of the conditions there Um, so
yeah, I mean it is it is I will say that
it is a place where people can feel
particularly desperate, especially in
the winter or the summer because you
freeze in the winter and you boil in the
summer in that shoe.
Uh there's no air conditioning, the heat
is insufficient. You know, I had leaky
water. There's cockroaches and and
rodents and everything in the shoe. You
have to like put something under your in
the in the gap under your cell door so
stuff doesn't come in at night. um you
know so that I mean I can see how
someone could potentially get uh
somewhat desperate but again you know
you have all these guys who are facing
like frankly worse situations who don't
have the money for the attorneys who
have their friends fingering them and
and they don't commit suicide they don't
die by suicide about three or four dozen
guys were on death row sentenced to die
for really heinous crimes right uh on
the day that the Biden administration
announced the commutation of their death
sentences, right? None of those guys had
killed themselves.
Can I ask also about the guards? You you
just mentioned that and that's part of
the story is that the guards just who
were subsequently fired just were they
were distracted, they were asleep, they
just missed what was happening. Um that
also is an element that it seems insane
to a lay person. Um and maybe it is
insane, but what have you made of that?
So, when I was there, you had um a
couple of of uh cos uh who were good, a
whole mess that were lazy, and some that
were outright malicious. And that's
pretty much the mix wherever you go in
the Bureau of Prisons, in the US Federal
Bureau of Prisons. It's going to be that
way in pretty much any facility. Um you
know, certainly they're supposed to do
halfhour rounds in any shoe. So, a shoe
is a special housing unit and you know,
shu and it's pronounced like you know
like footwear like shoe. But there's
certain rules in the shoe and they're
supposed to be the same wherever you go
in the federal prison system, right? So,
they're supposed to do these halfhour
rounds. Um, you know, we haven't seen
camera footage that definitively answers
one way or the other whether those
rounds were done, but we're told that
they were not done and that, you know,
there had been this long period um, you
know, before anyone had gotten to them.
Um, I find that realistic from my time
there because you pay attention. You
hear when the guards are coming on
rounds and they definitely did miss
rounds more than.
Yeah, I would I would think Yeah, that
that part actually did square for me
too, just knowing people uh and in the
middle of the night like if you can get
away with staying in your chair and and
you know, closing your eyes and
sleeping, you're probably going to do
it. So, so that that that that part of
me kind of did track that in the army
they call it uh pencil whipping when
you're told to like, you know, go go
make sure all of these, you know,
Humvees have like oil, you know,
sufficient amount of oil in it
and you instead you don't do it and you
just check off that you did it. Like
that's actually pretty standard
bureaucratic laziness. I mean, again,
you see it in the Bureau of Prisons uh
everywhere, but you know, there were um
a couple of cos there was there was one,
his name was Ortiz, and he would make
his rounds every half hour, and you
you'd see it from the light because the
you know, the lights off in the hallway
at night, right? So, you can see the
flashlight like coming and going. And I
was up late writing a lot. I took 500
pages of notes in that shoot because
Rolling Stone had asked me to, you know,
write down everything for a piece that
that they were working on about my case.
So, I have 500 pages of notes, date and
time stamp, uh, about everything that
happened in that shoot. Um, and yeah, so
there were a couple who were diligent.
I'm not trying to throw everyone under
the bus, but you know, for the most
part, lazy and some outright malicious.
Yeah. Yeah. If people want to learn more
about I would encourage they go Google
Martin. You can look up Huff Post or
Intercept for his uh, you know, his
piece on the conditions uh, at at MCC.
And then also his story on serving
alongside Chapo. Um that's that's a
pretty pretty interesting one that uh
people can go find if they want to.
Well, for a minimum security guy, for a
guy who is supposedly minimum security,
you know, the whole time.
Yes, indeed. Well, uh Marty, uh thanks
so much for joining us. Very much
appreciate it.
Thank you for having me.
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Trump’s Lawyer HUMILIATED as Legal Team SPIRALS Out of CONTROL
by Katie Phang
Jul 23, 2025

Lots of Mean Girl-energy here, including Todd Blanche. As Alina Habba gets booted from her interim job, AG Pamela Jo Bondi swoops in to summarily fire Habba’s hand-picked replacement. Katie Phang unravels the latest in this Habba drama in NJ.



So, we've got some Mean Girls level BS
going on right now by Alina Haba, Pamela
Joe, and I guess Todd Blanche doesn't
want to miss the chance to show his
petty, resting face kind of
energy here. So, let's talk about the
updates. As you'll recall, just a few
days ago here at the Katie Phang News
Channel, we had talked about the
prospect of Alina Habba being unemployed
as of Tuesday.
July 22nd, which was yesterday. And we
talked about why. It's because one,
she's a partisan hack. Two, she has no
prosecutorial experience. And listen, I
would forgive that if the parking lot
lawyer actually had some real legal
experience, but she doesn't. Three,
let's just go off her track record
alone. It sucks. Four, putting aside
that she cannot see legitimate rule of
law issues to their conclusion as
evidenced by her failed measure of
prosecution so far as the interim US
attorney in New Jersey. Habba clearly is
not fit or competent to be able to have
this job. It's a critically important
job. So
now you have not only Habba but Pamela
Joe Bondi, Todd Blanch at Al thinking
with a level of arrogance that is just
so typical of Republicans that they're
smarter than the basically 19 federal
judges that sit in the district court in
New Jersey that I don't know
collectively have decades more
experience than Alita Haba who then also
think that she is not fit to serve in
that position as the US attorney and
that given the opportunity these judges
said you're just not cutting it Alina.
Now those people Blanch Bondi Habba and
others think that their wisdom should
surpass supplant and supersede that of
all of these federal judges.
So let's get into the details here
because that is where the devil lives
that in the White House. So,
there was a convening of these judges on
Monday afternoon. I had reported about
that here at the Katy Fang News Channel
that they were going to be meeting. Why?
Because Tuesday ostensibly was the
expiry of the 120day window by which
Alina Habba has been serving as the
interim US attorney. And before
anybody's like, where did that number
come from? It didn't come from me. It is
the number that is ascribed to in the
federal laws that say that if you're an
interim
then you only serve for 120 days. So
given that there may be some confusion
as to whether or not it ends yesterday
or ends on Friday, big whooping deal of
a difference. um these judges convened
on Monday and they were having this
meeting and part of what they did was
they decided at this meeting on Monday
that a young woman but incredibly
experienced and by all accounts the most
popular person in the United States
Attorney's office which you and I both
know must have killed Alina Habba cuz
again mean girl energy is totally Alina
Habba Regina George 100% although
actually wouldn't that presume that
Alina had some measure of popularity
because it sounds like she didn't. So
these judges decided that the first
assistant US attorney and so it's
basically Alina Habba and then this young
woman that she her name is Desiree Lee
Grace is her name and that Miss Grace
would end up being the US attorney.
Okay, so no ironies here. Clearly Alina
Hob must think that this woman is
incredibly competent and capable. Why?
because Alina actually appointed and
gave the first assistant US attorney
position to Desiree Lee Grace earlier
this year. So, it's not like Alena could
turn around and say that this woman
wasn't qualified to have the job. So,
these judges convene and they enter an
order. And I'm going to read the order
and you're going to see it on your
screen right now. And this is what the
order says. Ready? It's very short.
Standing order signed by the Chief Judge
of the District of New Jersey. Her name
is the Honorable Renee Marie Bum. BUMB,
a Republican president nominated
appointed federal judge. Okay. So,
according to this order, the United
States District Court for the District
of New Jersey appoints Desiree Lee Grace
as the United States Attorney for the
District of New Jersey. The appointment
is effective July 22nd, again yesterday,
or upon the expiration of 120 days after
appointment by the attorney general of
the interim US attorney, Alina Habba,
whichever is later. So, look, it hedges,
right? because apparently there is a
kind of grace period of about 4 days
maybe on this and so these federal
judges said you know what and trust me
federal judges know how to draft orders
these federal judges said you know what
we're going to say it's either effective
Tuesday July 22nd or on the expiration
of the 120 days whenever that is which
some people say is this Friday done in
order in Camden New Jersey this 22nd day
of July 2025
that's it it's an order people look at
the top of the language standing order,
meaning it's a judicial order, meaning
it has to be obeyed and complied with.
And once again, we have a glaring
example of how the United States of
America via the Trump administration,
via these people in the Department of
Justice think that they don't have to
listen to orders because within hours of
this order being entered and within
hours of Miss Grace being appointed the
United States Attorney in Jersey,
the current attorney general, Pamela Joe
Bondi, posts on social media, and we got
to go here for a hot second. The level
of social media posting by people in the
Department of Justice suggests that
these people don't have anything better
to be doing, which uh they should be. Um
but anyway, this is what Pamela Joe
posts. Let's check out what she says.
She says here that Alina Habba has been
doing a great job in making New Jersey
safe again. Questionable. Not
questionable. Wrong. It's a lie.
Nonetheless, politically minded judges
refused to allow her to continue in her
position, replacing Alina with the first
assistant. politically minded judges.
Accordingly, the first assistant US
attorney in New Jersey has just been
removed.
Okay. No. According to this judicial
order, she pretty much was the US
attorney. So, Alina gets it wrong. Once
again, this Department of Justice does
not tolerate rogue judges, especially
when they threaten the president's core
article 2 powers. Okay. The president
did not appoint
and install Alina Habba as the United
States attorney. She was the interim US
attorney and according to the federal
statutes, she was subject to removal
after 120 days. But this adjective rogue
is very popular in the Trump
administration, very popular with Todd
Blanch and others. They love to call
judges and others rogue. They talk about
politicians, people, Americans, um, when
they don't like what the other side is
doing. Instead of putting on your big
girl panties, Pamela Joe, and actually
understanding that maybe there are
decisions that are critical to the
people of New Jersey that are not
partisan and are not politicized, she as
in Bondi decides that she wants to make
it a political thing. So lying down,
spitting up in the air trying to say
that other people are making political
decisions.
By the way, in case you were wondering,
that chief judge Renee Marie Bumshi was
actually um a George W. Bush appointment
in case you were wondering. Okay, so
what does this mean? Well, apparently
and according to reporting,
I mean, and this is kind of crazy,
it wasn't just like Desiree Lee Grace
was said, "You are being removed by Pam
Bondi as the US attorney in New Jersey."
According to media reports, she received
an email on Tuesday, and this is
according to the New York Times. An
email was received by Miss Grace on
Tuesday informing her, quote, that she
had been fired.
Fired. And then I was like, "Okay,
fired. What does fired mean?" Right?
Because fired could be you've gotten
fired from your job as US attorney, but
hey, you still get to work in the
Department of Justice.
Well, more reporting suggests that she
actually was literally fired from the
Department of Justice. I'm not kidding
you. That's what it says here in the
remedial reporting that Department of
Justice officials granted anonymity to
describe a personal decision. confirmed
that Grace had been fired entirely from
the Department of Justice. And this is
according to Politico's reporting.
I told you it was mean girls, petty
stuff, right? So this woman who had been
working for more than 16 years at the
Department of Justice, who was again by
all accounts an incredibly um dedicated,
devoted and excellent career public
servant because she was selected by
competent federal judges to be able to
serve in a role as the US attorney. She
not only got fired from the job as US
attorney, but she got fired from her
job. Period. End of story.
Does that sound like a lawful
termination to you?
Okay, so here's the deal.
So, we know that we know what Bondi's
position was on this, right? I mean, she
clearly was not supportive of this. And
then here's how things work, though. So,
the attorney general of the United
States cannot fire a US attorney. Only
President Trump can do it. Convicted
felon Donald Trump can do that. And
that's according to Steve Ladic, our
dear friend that you guys all know so
well. He's a constitutional law
professor at Georgetown University. He's
one of my go-tos. So Steve is like,
look, an an attorney general cannot fire
a US attorney that's appointed by the
district judges in this instance as it
is because they were doing it pursuant
to the United States Code, pursuant to
federal statutes when it deals with
vacancies in these positions of US
attorneys. Only the president of the
United States can do it. I can
envision a scenario within which Bondi
says, "I was acting as an agent on
behalf of Trump when I did this." Either
way, it doesn't pass the constitutional
muster test. And it also again just
smacks of just retaliation against these
judges
like I just told you, some of whom are
Republican-appointed judges. Um, and so
not only was it wrong on its face to do
it, but it's wrong legally what just
ended up happening to Desiree Lee Grace.
Now, here's the thing, too. The New
Jersey senators, Cy Booker and Andy Kim,
they made it they made it explicitly,
painfully clear that Alina Hobo will
never get Senate confirmation to be the
United States attorney in New Jersey.
So, there's this process called the blue
slip and the return of the blue slip and
it's kind of gone by the wayside when
it's come to certain judicial
appointments, but when it's come to
United States attorney appointments, mm-
still applies. So, if the state senate
senators, the United States senators
from a state do not support a nominee
for a role like US attorney, ain't going
to happen in that state. and Cy Booker
and Andy Kim before this incident
yesterday made it explicitly clear they
did not think Alina Haba was fit for the
job and now they are doubly confirming
that they do not believe that she is fit
for the job and they will never return
an affirmative vote for her to be
confirmed as the US attorney. So, the
fact that Alina Haba thinks or that
anybody in the Department of Justice
thinks, including the Oval Office, by
the way, that they think that there's a
pathway to success for Haba in this
instance for this job is freaking nuts.
And yet, and yet, what does the Oval
Office say? This is the Oval Office's
response. The Trump administration looks
forward to her final confirmation in the
US Senate and will work tirelessly to
ensure the people of New Jersey are well
represented. But here's the thing. The
people in New Jersey really don't want
this. Why? What has Alina Hoba done?
Let's refresh your recollection. Putting
aside her failed tenure as personal
counsel to Donald Trump. She arrested
Newark Mayor Raz Baraka and then had to
dismiss the charges a week later after
she also got excoriated and publicly
dressed down by a federal judge for her
failure to exercise her prosecutorial
discretion appropriately. She has
indicted a sitting congresswoman Lam
Monica Macyver which is wrong as well
for that same incident that happened
within which Mayor Baraka was arrested.
She has told her office as the intermus
attorney to launch politically charged
investigations into the governor of New
Jersey and the attorney general of New
Jersey. I mean I could still go on and
on on and on. So Hama thinks that that
is great representation for the state of
New Jersey. Well, she's just straight up
dumb and wrong. So, let's talk about a
similar situation. Actually, stand by
for a second. I do want to refresh
everybody's recollection, too. Todd
Blanch had decided that remember at the
beginning of this, Todd Blanch was like,
"Oo, let me get involved in being petty
here." So, Todd Blanch also on social
media, and by the way, using the
cesspool of X/ Twitter um because
suddenly that's, you know, official
means of communication for these people.
Todd Blanch yesterday stating that the
district judges in New Jersey forced out
Haba, then installed her deputy,
colluding with New Jersey senators along
the way. I mean, this is defamatory
right here. Pursuant to the president's
authority, we have removed that deputy
effective immediately. This backroom
vote will not override the authority of
the chief executive.
I mean, if there's anybody who knows
about backroom deals, it would be
Blanch. It would be Trump. It would be
Bondi. It would be Haba. I mean, these
people know what they're talking about.
But when they're accusing sitting
federal judges of colluding, that's some
strong language. When they're when
they're accusing and alleging that
federal judges have done some type of
backroom deals
has some nefarious kind of connotations.
No, I mean, it's pretty damn defamatory.
And I just think I I strike that I know
it's just more indisha of the lack of
respect that this administration has for
the judiciary. And I have said this for
weeks. The judiciary needs to stiffen
that spine a little bit. Grow a you know
what? Grow a pair, right? Like let's
show the executive and let's show these
people that are actually ironically
within the same branch of government if
you're at the Department of Justice.
although kind of not. But show them
federal judges that you're not going to
take this lying down because that is an
incredibly incredibly rude and
disrespectful attack on your credibility
as a judge.
So here's the deal. And by the way, this
is not just limited to Alina Hava. You
want to know what's going on here? Let's
talk about what's going on here. Two
weeks ago,
I'm sorry, last week
in Albany, New York, same same thing
went down. A Trump pick, a guy by the
name of John A. Sarone or Sarone III, S
O N EI, if you want to look him up, he
was an intermus attorney in New York in
the northern district, right up there
near Albany. So his term expired and the
judges were like, "Uh, ain't going to
happen either. We don't want him." And
so the judges were like, "We're not
voting for this guy." Okay. So what do
they end up doing? You're going to like
this. They end up doing they as in Bondi
and Trump and the DOJ.
The DOJ appointed the Sarone guy as a
quote special attorney to the attorney
general as well as the first assistant
United States attorney in the northern
district of New York giving him two hats
to wear even though the guy's not
competent to wear even one. And so the
saronei now pursuant to vac the vacancy
reform act he'll now be serving as the
acting US attorney for at least seven
months.
I mean, these people are are are
tonedeaf. No, like if if these judges
are telling you that they don't respect
somebody to be able to serve in this
capacity as US attorney, you're not
going to shove this person down the
judge's throats as well. I mean, I just
want to make sure it's clear. Does it
mean then those are rogue judges in the
Northern District of New York? Just like
the rogue judges in New Jersey? Again,
that adjective rogue is only used when
people on the other side are doing
something you don't like. It is not
grounded in fact or reality. I mean
truly the Republicans are living in an
alternate universe. They are truly the
party of alternate facts, are they not?
Let's talk about this guy briefly before
we part ways because you got to really
know what this dude's all about. This
Sarone guy
apparently
at a news conference in May of this year
um apparently showed his ignorance of
the First Amendment as well as legal
limits that are placed on the telecom
industry. And this is according to the
Times Union, uh, a publication out of
that that area. And then in June of this
year, he called 911. Excuse me, he did
not call 911, but he called the cell
phone of the Albany County Sheriff Craig
Apple. Okay, so he accuses an
undocumented immigrant from El Salvador
that the guy was wielding a knife and
tried to kill him outside of a hotel in
Albany. So instead of calling 911, he
calls the Albany County Sheriff's cell
phone.
Then after surveillance footage was
reviewed and released by investigators,
it actually showed that this man did not
even come close to Sarone with a weapon.
And so even though local prosecutors had
charged this man from El Salvador with
attempted murder, it was downgraded to a
misdemeanor. This is John Sarone. Okay,
I'm still going. I'm still going.
Apparently, Sirone stated in an
affidavit, because you know what that
means, affidavit, that his in district
residence was a boarded up and vacant
building in Alby's Sheridan Hollow
neighborhood.
In response to this reporting from the
Times Union, the US Attorney's Office
dropped the Times Union from the
Northern District of New York's media
distribution list. Saroneia is also on
record having said that Democrats are
quote evil.
These jobs as United States Attorney are
so important.
They are the top federal prosecutors in
these particular jurisdictions.
And instead of putting people there that
are going to keep those communities
safe, that are going to ensure that the
rule of law is defended, that that
they're going to run an office that's
going to be staffed with competent
people. Um, and by the way, you know
what? I'm going to say in fairness,
these line prosecutors that are just
kind of stuck in this this kind of like
purgatory of hell of having to serve in
these in these roles. I mean, listen,
maybe some of them like the fact that
it's Alena Habba. Who knows?

But
here's the thing: they need to
continue to do their job with clear
leadership. And clear leadership is not
defined by an Alina Habba tenure as the
US attorney. So, it's a showdown. I
mean, if you look at all the headlines
right now, it says showdown, and it's
accurate, but it is very Mean Girls.
It's very petty. It's very small-minded.
It's very childish. And it's very
serious all at the same time. But this
woman, Desiree Lee, Desiree Lee Grace, I
went to her LinkedIn profile yesterday
to kind of check her out a little bit
more. This woman has had so much pride
in the job that she has done as a
federal prosecutor. She's a career
public servant. And this idea that she
is now being branded in some way as
being complicit, or that she had some
role in getting for her what was
probably her dream job to be the
United States attorney.

I think it's
disgusting, but I'm not surprised,
right, that this type of behavior that is
just cheerless and childish and disgusting,
is coming at the hands of Pamela Jo
Bondi, Alina Habba, Todd Blanche and
others. Not surprised. It's par for the
course. But we should be watching these
things carefully, because it shows again,
another level of defiance of judicial
orders, because this is a judicial order
appointing this woman. And now we have
an attorney general who says, screw your
orders federal judges. I'm going to fire
this woman even though she can't, as the
attorney general.

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Why Ghislaine Maxwell Can NEVER Get Clemency for Epstein's sex ring
By Tara Palmeri
7.23.25
Is Maxwell the key to Epstein’s hidden files?

The Tara Palmeri Show returns with a closer look at the mounting pressure to unseal the Epstein documents—and the potential role Ghislaine Maxwell could play in finally exposing the truth.

Tara joins Katy Tur and Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC to break down the civil lawsuits that may be the last path to justice. Why has Pam Bondi re-entered the Epstein narrative? What did she say about the infamous Mar-a-Lago meeting? And why are survivors still being silenced more than a decade later?

Plus, Tara shares what she's hearing behind the scenes in Washington and what to expect from future episodes of The Tara Palmeri Show.
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