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United States' Response to Motion for Judicial Oversight and Additional Relief
Donald J. Trump, Plaintiff, v. United States of America, Defendant.
by Juan Antonio Gonzalez, United States Attorney and Jay I. Bratt, Chief, Counterintelligence and Export Control Section, National Security Division
08/31/2022

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
WEST PALM BEACH DIVISION

CASE NO. 22-CV-81294-CANNON

DONALD J. TRUMP,
Plaintiff,
v.
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Defendant.
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UNITED STATES’ RESPONSE TO MOTION FOR JUDICIAL OVERSIGHT AND ADDITIONAL RELIEF

On August 22, 2022, fourteen days after the Department of Justice executed a search warrant at the premises located at 1100 S. Ocean Blvd., Palm Beach, Florida 33480 (hereinafter, the “Premises”), a property of former President Donald J. Trump (“Plaintiff” or “the former President”), Plaintiff filed a “Motion for Judicial Oversight and Additional Relief.” Docket Entry (“D.E.”) 1. In his motion, Plaintiff requested, among other things, that the Court appoint a special master and that the government return to Plaintiff certain property. See id. The following day, this Court ordered Plaintiff to file a supplement to his motion addressing certain questions. D.E. 10. On August 26, Plaintiff filed such a supplement, D.E. 28, and on August 27, the Court entered a preliminary order on Plaintiff’s motion, D.E. 29. In compliance with this Order, the government hereby files its public Response to Plaintiff’s Motion and Supplement, including Plaintiff’s request for the appointment of a special master. See id.

The legal issues presented, and the relief requested in the filings, are narrow, notwithstanding the wide-ranging meritless accusations leveled against the government in the motion. See D.E. 1; D.E. 28. Plaintiff’s filings present three issues: whether Plaintiff is currently entitled to the return of any property, to injunctive relief, and to the appointment of a special master.1 Not only does Plaintiff lack standing to raise these claims at this juncture, but even if his claims were properly raised, Plaintiff would not be entitled to the relief he seeks.

Summary of Argument

Plaintiff’s motion to appoint a special master, enjoin further review of seized materials, and require the return of seized items fails for multiple, independent reasons. As an initial matter, the former President lacks standing to seek judicial relief or oversight as to Presidential records because those records do not belong to him. The Presidential Records Act makes clear that “[t]he United States” has “complete ownership, possession, and control” of them. 44 U.S.C. § 2202. Furthermore, this Court lacks jurisdiction to adjudicate Plaintiff’s Fourth Amendment challenges to the validity of the search warrant and his arguments for returning or suppressing the materials seized. For those reasons and others, Plaintiff has shown no basis for the Court to grant injunctive relief. Plaintiff is not likely to succeed on the merits; he will suffer no injury absent an injunction—let alone an irreparable injury; and the harms to the government and the public would far outweigh any benefit to Plaintiff.

Even if the Court had jurisdiction to entertain Plaintiff’s claims, appointment of a special master is unnecessary and would significantly harm important governmental interests, including national security interests. Appointment of a special master is disfavored in a case such as this. In any event, the government’s filter team has already completed its work of segregating any seized materials that are potentially subject to attorney-client privilege, and the government’s investigative team has already reviewed all of the remaining materials, including any that are potentially subject to claims of executive privilege. Appointment of a special master to review materials potentially subject to claims of executive privilege would be particularly inappropriate because binding Supreme Court precedent forecloses Plaintiff’s argument that review of these materials by personnel within the Executive Branch raises any such privilege concerns. Furthermore, appointment of a special master would impede the government’s ongoing criminal investigation and—if the special master were tasked with reviewing classified documents—would impede the Intelligence Community from conducting its ongoing review of the national security risk that improper storage of these highly sensitive materials may have caused and from identifying measures to rectify or mitigate any damage that improper storage caused. Lastly, this case does not involve any of the types of circumstances that have warranted appointment of a special master to review materials potentially subject to attorney-client privilege.

Factual Background

Mindful that the Court ruling on the present motion is not the same Court that authorized the search warrant from which this civil action results, the government provides below a detailed recitation of the relevant facts, many of which are provided to correct the incomplete and inaccurate narrative set forth in Plaintiff’s filings.

A. NARA, upon Observing that It Was Missing Presidential Records from the Former President’s Administration, Attempted to Obtain the Missing Records Voluntarily from the Former President’s Representatives

Throughout 2021, the United States National Archives and Records Administration (“NARA”) had ongoing communications with representatives of former President Trump in which it sought the transfer of what it perceived were missing records from his Administration. See Letter from David S. Ferriero, Archivist of the United States, to the Hon. Carolyn B. Maloney (Feb. 18, 2022), available at https://www.archives.gov/files/foia/fer ... 8.2022.pdf (hereinafter, “Ferriero Letter”) (attached hereto as Attachment A), at 1; Letter from Debra Steidel Wall, Acting Archivist of the United States, to Evan Corcoran (May 10, 2022), available at https://www.archives.gov/files/foia/wal ... ncorcoran- re-trump-boxes-05.10.2022.pdf (hereinafter, “Wall Letter”) (attached hereto as Attachment B), at 1 (“As you are no doubt aware, NARA had ongoing communications with the former President’s representatives throughout 2021 about what appeared to be missing Presidential records.”). These communications ultimately resulted in the provision of fifteen boxes (hereinafter, the “Fifteen Boxes”) from former President Trump to NARA in January 2022. See Ferriero Letter at 1; Wall Letter at 1; see also In Re Sealed Search Warrant, Case No. 22-MJ-8332 (S.D. Fla.) (hereinafter, “MJ Docket”) D.E. 102-1 at ¶¶ 39, 47. When producing the Fifteen Boxes, the former President never asserted executive privilege over any of the documents nor claimed that any of the documents in the boxes containing classification markings had been declassified. NARA asked representatives of the former President, as required by the Presidential Records Act, to continue to search for any additional Presidential records that had not been transferred to NARA. Ferriero Letter at 2.

B. Observing that the Fifteen Boxes Contained “Highly Classified Records,” NARA Sent a Referral to the Department of Justice

“In its initial review of materials within those boxes, NARA identified items marked as classified national security information, up to the level of Top Secret and including Sensitive Compartmented Information and Special Access Program materials. NARA informed the Department of Justice about that discovery.” Wall Letter at 1. Specifically, on February 9, 2022, the Special Agent in Charge of NARA’s Office of the Inspector General sent a referral via email to the Department of Justice (“DOJ”) (hereinafter, the “NARA Referral”). MJ Docket D.E. 102-1 at ¶ 24. The NARA Referral stated that a preliminary review of the Fifteen Boxes indicated that they contained “newspapers, magazines, printed news articles, photos, miscellaneous print-outs, notes, presidential correspondence, personal and post-presidential records, and a lot of classified records. Of most significant concern was that highly classified records were unfoldered, intermixed with other records, and otherwise unproperly [sic] identified.” Id. (internal quotations omitted). The NARA Referral was made on two bases: evidence that classified records had been stored at the Premises until mid-January 2022, and evidence that certain pages of Presidential records had been torn up. Related to the second concern, the NARA Referral included a citation to 18 U.S.C. § 2071.

C. The Former President Delayed the FBI’s Access to the Fifteen Boxes

As the NARA Referral stated, the Fifteen Boxes contained “highly classified records.” Upon learning this, DOJ sought access to the Fifteen Boxes in part “so that the FBI and others in the Intelligence Community could examine them.” Wall Letter at 1. DOJ followed the steps outlined in the Presidential Records Act to obtain access to the Fifteen Boxes. On April 12, 2022, NARA advised counsel for the former President that it intended to provide the FBI with the records the following week (i.e., the week of April 18). Id. at 2. That access was not provided then, however, because a representative of the former President requested an extension of the production date to April 29. See id.

As the Acting Archivist recounted, on April 29, DOJ advised counsel for the former President as follows:

There are important national security interests in the FBI and others in the Intelligence Community getting access to these materials. According to NARA, among the materials in the boxes are over 100 documents with classification markings, comprising more than 700 pages. Some include the highest levels of classification, including Special Access Program (SAP) materials. Access to the materials is not only necessary for purposes of our ongoing criminal investigation, but the Executive Branch must also conduct an assessment of the potential damage resulting from the apparent manner in which these materials were stored and transported and take any necessary remedial steps. Accordingly, we are seeking immediate access to these materials so as to facilitate the necessary assessments that need to be conducted within the Executive Branch.


See id.

On the same date that DOJ sent this correspondence, counsel for the former President requested an additional extension before the materials were provided to the FBI and stated that in the event that another extension was not granted, the letter should be construed as “‘a protective assertion of executive privilege made by counsel for the former President.’” Id. In its May 10 response, NARA rejected both of counsel’s requests. First, NARA noted that significant time—four weeks—had elapsed since NARA first informed counsel of its intent to provide the documents to the FBI. Id. Second, NARA stated that the former President could not assert executive privilege to prevent others within the Executive Branch from reviewing the documents, calling that decision “not a close one.” Id. at 3. NARA rejected on the same basis counsel’s “‘protective assertion’” of privilege. Id. at 3-4. Accordingly, NARA informed counsel that it would provide the FBI access to the records beginning as early as Thursday, May 12, 2022. Id. at 4. Although the former President could have taken legal action prior to May 12 to attempt to block the FBI’s access to the documents in the Fifteen Boxes, he did not do so.

D. The FBI’s Review of the Fifteen Boxes Highlighted the National Security Implications of Their Improper Storage

Between May 16-18, 2022, after finally obtaining access to the Fifteen Boxes, FBI agents conducted a preliminary review of the documents and identified documents with classification markings in fourteen of the Fifteen Boxes. MJ Docket D.E. 102-1 at ¶ 47. A preliminary review revealed the following: 184 unique documents bearing classification markings, including 67 documents marked as CONFIDENTIAL, 92 documents marked as SECRET, and 25 documents marked as TOP SECRET. Id. Further, the FBI agents observed markings reflecting that the documents were subject to sensitive compartments and dissemination controls used to restrict access to material in the interest of national security. Id.

E. After Obtaining Evidence Indicating that Additional Classified Records Remained at the Premises, DOJ Initially Sought Their Return Through the Issuance of a Grand Jury Subpoena2

Through its investigation,3 the FBI developed evidence indicating that even after the Fifteen Boxes were provided to NARA, dozens of additional boxes remained at the Premises that were also likely to contain classified information. Accordingly, DOJ obtained a grand jury subpoena, for which the former President’s counsel accepted service on May 11, 2022. See Attachment C; see also D.E. 1 at 5. The subpoena was directed to the custodian of records for the Office of Donald J. Trump, and it requested “[a]ny and all documents or writings in the custody or control of Donald J. Trump and/or the Office of Donald J. Trump bearing classification markings [list of classification markings].” Attachment C. DOJ also sent the former President’s counsel a letter that suggested they could comply by “providing any responsive documents to the FBI at the place of their location” and by providing from the custodian a “sworn certification that the documents represent all responsive records.” See Attachment D. The letter further stated that if no responsive documents existed, the custodian should provide a sworn certification to that effect. Id.

The subpoena’s return date was May 24, 2022. Counsel sought an extension for complying. After initially denying the request, the government offered counsel an extension for complying with the subpoena until June 7, 2022. Counsel for the former President contacted DOJ on the evening of June 2, 2022, and requested that FBI agents meet him the following day to pick up responsive documents.

F. In Response to the Subpoena, Counsel for the Former President Provided a Limited Number of Documents Accompanied by a Certification that All Responsive Documents Were Produced Following a Diligent Search

On June 3, 2022, three FBI agents and a DOJ attorney arrived at the Premises to accept receipt of the materials. In addition to counsel for the former President, another individual was also present as the custodian of records for the former President’s post-presidential office. When producing the documents, neither counsel nor the custodian asserted that the former President had declassified the documents or asserted any claim of executive privilege. Instead, counsel handled them in a manner that suggested counsel believed that the documents were classified: the production included a single Redweld envelope, double-wrapped in tape, containing the documents. The individual present as the custodian of records produced and provided a signed certification letter, which stated in part the following:

Based upon the information that has been provided to me, I am authorized to certify, on behalf of the Office of Donald J. Trump, the following: a. A diligent search was conducted of the boxes that were moved from the White House to Florida; b. This search was conducted after receipt of the subpoena, in order to locate any and all documents that are responsive to the subpoena; c. Any and all responsive documents accompany this certification; and d. No copy, written notation, or reproduction of any kind was retained as to any responsive document.

I swear or affirm that the above statements are true and correct to the best of my knowledge.


See Attachment E.4

After producing the Redweld, counsel for the former President represented that all the records that had come from the White House were stored in one location—a storage room at the Premises (hereinafter, the “Storage Room”), and the boxes of records in the Storage Room were “the remaining repository” of records from the White House. Counsel further represented that there were no other records stored in any private office space or other location at the Premises and that all available boxes were searched. As the former President’s filing indicates, the FBI agents and DOJ attorney were permitted to visit the storage room. See D.E. 1 at 5-6. Critically, however, the former President’s counsel explicitly prohibited government personnel from opening or looking inside any of the boxes that remained in the storage room, giving no opportunity for the government to confirm that no documents with classification markings remained.

Once in a secure government setting, the FBI conducted a preliminary review of the documents contained in the Redweld envelope. That preliminary document review revealed the following: 38 unique documents bearing classification markings, including 5 documents marked as CONFIDENTIAL, 16 documents marked as SECRET, and 17 documents marked as TOP SECRET. Further, the FBI agents observed markings reflecting sensitive compartments and dissemination controls.
Counsel for the former President offered no explanation as to why boxes of government records, including 38 documents with classification markings, remained at the Premises nearly five months after the production of the Fifteen Boxes and nearly one-and-a-half years after the end of the Administration.

G. After Further Investigation Indicated that the Response to the Subpoena Was Incomplete, that Obstructive Conduct Occurred in Connection with the Response to the Subpoena, and that Classified Information Remained at the Premises, DOJ Obtained a Court-Authorized Search Warrant

Through further investigation, the FBI uncovered multiple sources of evidence indicating that the response to the May 11 grand jury subpoena was incomplete and that classified documents remained at the Premises, notwithstanding the sworn certification made to the government on June 3. In particular, the government developed evidence that a search limited to the Storage Room would not have uncovered all the classified documents at the Premises. The government also developed evidence that government records were likely concealed and removed from the Storage Room and that efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government’s investigation. See also MJ Docket D.E. 80 at 8 (“As the Government aptly noted at the hearing, these concerns are not hypothetical in this case. One of the statutes for which I found probable cause was 18 U.S.C. § 1519, which prohibits obstructing an investigation.”). This included evidence indicating that boxes formerly in the Storage Room were not returned prior to counsel’s review.

Against that backdrop, and relying on the probable cause that the investigation had developed at that time, on August 5, 2022, the government applied to Magistrate Judge Reinhart for a search and seizure warrant, which cited three statutes: 18 U.S.C. § 793 (Willful retention of national defense information), 18 U.S.C. § 2071 (Concealment or removal of government records), and 18 U.S.C. § 1519 (Obstruction of federal investigation).5 See MJ Docket, D.E. 57 at 3. On the same date, Judge Reinhart found that probable cause existed that evidence of each of the crimes would be found at the Premises, and he authorized the search warrant. MJ Docket, D.E. 17 at 2.

Pursuant to the search warrant, the government was permitted to search the “‘45 Office’ [the former President’s office space at the Premises], all storage rooms, and all other rooms or areas within the premises used or available to be used by [the former President] and his staff and in which boxes or documents could be stored, including all structures or buildings on the estate” but not “areas currently (i.e., at the time of the search) being occupied, rented, or used by third parties (such as Mar-a-Largo Members) and not otherwise used or available to be used by [the former President] and his staff, such as private guest suites.” MJ Docket, D.E. 17 at 3. Judge Reinhart authorized the government to seize any evidence of the applicable crimes. Id. at 2, 4. Importantly, the government was authorized by the warrant to seize “[a]ny physical documents with classification markings, along with any containers/boxes (including any other contents) in which such documents are located, as well as any other containers/boxes that are collectively stored or found together with the aforementioned documents and containers/boxes” and any government or Presidential records created during the former President’s Administration. Id. at 4.

H. During the August 8 Execution of the Search Warrant at the Premises, the Government Seized Thirty-Three Boxes, Containers, or Items of Evidence, Which Contained over a Hundred Classified Records, Including Information Classified at the Highest Levels

Pursuant to the above-described search protocols, the government seized thirty-three items of evidence, mostly boxes (hereinafter, the “Seized Evidence”), falling within the scope of Attachment B to the search warrant because they contained documents with classification markings or what otherwise appeared to be government records. Three classified documents that were not located in boxes, but rather were located in the desks in the “45 Office,” were also seized. Per the search warrant protocols discussed above, the seized documents included documents that were collectively stored or found together with documents with classification markings.6

The investigative team has reviewed all the materials in the containers that the privilege review team did not segregate as potentially attorney-client privileged. Of the Seized Evidence, thirteen boxes or containers contained documents with classification markings, and in all, over one hundred unique documents with classification markings—that is, more than twice the amount produced on June 3, 2022, in response to the grand jury subpoena—were seized. Certain of the documents had colored cover sheets indicating their classification status. See, e.g., Attachment F (redacted FBI photograph of certain documents and classified cover sheets recovered from a container in the “45 office”).
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The classification levels ranged from CONFIDENTIAL to TOP SECRET information, and certain documents included additional sensitive compartments that signify very limited distribution. In some instances, even the FBI counterintelligence personnel and DOJ attorneys conducting the review required additional clearances before they were permitted to review certain documents.

Notwithstanding counsel’s representation on June 3, 2022, that materials from the White House were only located in the Storage Room, classified documents were found in both the Storage Room and in the former President’s office. Moreover, the search cast serious doubt on the claim in the certification (and now in the Motion) that there had been “a diligent search” for records responsive to the grand jury subpoena. In the storage room alone, FBI agents found 76 documents bearing classification markings.
All of the classified documents seized in the August 8 search have been segregated from the rest of the seized documents and are being separately maintained and stored in accordance with appropriate procedures for handling and storing classified information. That the FBI, in a matter of hours, recovered twice as many documents with classification markings as the “diligent search” that the former President’s counsel and other representatives had weeks to perform calls into serious question the representations made in the June 3 certification and casts doubt on the extent of cooperation in this matter.

I. The Privilege Review Team Has Completed Its Work

The privilege review team has completed its review of the materials in its custody and control that were identified as potentially privileged. The privilege review team identified only a limited subset of potentially attorney-client privileged documents. Pursuant to the court-approved filter protocols, the privilege review team was permitted to

(a) apply ex parte to the court for a determination whether or not the documents contain attorney-client privileged material; (b) defer seeking court intervention and continue to keep the documents inaccessible to law-enforcement personnel assigned to the investigation; or (c) disclose the documents to the potential privilege holder, request the privilege holder to state whether the potential privilege holder asserts attorney-client privilege as to any documents, including requesting a particularized privilege log, and seek a ruling from the court regarding any attorney-client privilege claims as to which the Privilege Review Team and the privilege-holder cannot reach agreement.


MJ Docket D.E. 102-1 at ¶ 84.

Having completed its review of materials identified as potentially privileged, the privilege review team is prepared, pending direction from the Court, to proceed in accordance with the above procedures.

Argument

I. Plaintiff Lacks Standing to Seek Judicial Oversight and Related Relief in Relation to Any Presidential Records Seized from the Premises


Plaintiff asks for a special master and related relief in anticipation of moving for the return of property under Criminal Rule 41(g). As he asserted: “[T]he requested relief is necessary to ensure that Movant can properly evaluate and avail himself of the important protections of Rule 41 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, particularly the ability to move for the return of seized property under Rule 41(g).” D.E. 28 at 4.

But, “[ i]n order for an owner of property to invoke Rule 41(g), he must show that he had a possessory interest in the property seized by the government.” United States v. Howell, 425 F.3d 971, 974 (11th Cir. 2005); see also Richey v. Smith, 515 F.2d 1239, 1243-44 (5th Cir. 1975) (court must consider “whether the plaintiff has an individual interest in and need for the material whose return he seeks”);7 3A Charles Alan Wright and Sarah N. Welling, Fed. Prac. & Proc. § 690, at 248 (4th ed. 2010).

Plaintiff has no property interest in any Presidential records (including classified records) seized from the Premises. The Presidential Records Act provides—under a heading entitled “Ownership of Presidential records”—that “[t]he United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records.” 44 U.S.C. § 2202; see Citizens for Responsibility & Ethics in Wash. v. Trump, 924 F.3d 602, 603 (D.C. Cir. 2019) (the PRA “establishes the public ownership of records created by . . . presidents and their staffs in the course of discharging their official duties” (brackets and internal quotations omitted)). And Presidential Records include any “documentary materials” that were “created or received by the President, the President’s immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise or assist the President” while “conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President.” 44 U.S.C. § 2201(2).

Neither of Plaintiff’s filings addresses or even cites that statutory provision. Nor does Plaintiff offer any other colorable argument that he has a property interest in any Presidential records seized. Plaintiff’s Motion, in fact, asserts that “[t]he documents seized at Mar-a-Lago on August 8, 2022 . . . were created during his term as President.” D.E. 1 at 15. These are precisely the types of documents that likely constitute Presidential records.

Because these records do not belong to Plaintiff, Rule 41(g) gives him no right to have them returned. And because Plaintiff has no such right, this Court should not appoint a special master to review Presidential records for the purpose of entertaining potential claims of executive privilege. At most, Plaintiff can seek return of his personal property.

II. Plaintiff Is Not Entitled to the Return of Property or to Injunctive Relief

A. Plaintiff Is Not Entitled to the Return of Any Property


As his last claim for relief, Plaintiff asks this Court to order “the Government to return any item seized pursuant to the Search Warrant that was not within the scope of the Search Warrant.” D.E. 28 at 10; see id. at 4. In Plaintiff’s view, retaining such material “would amount to a violation of the Fourth Amendment’s protections against wrongful searches and seizures.” D.E. 28 at 9. Although Plaintiff does not specify what material he contends was seized in excess of the search warrant, certain personal effects were commingled with classified material in the Seized Evidence, and they remain in the custody of the United States because of their evidentiary value. Personal effects without evidentiary value will be returned.

Nonetheless, contrary to Plaintiff’s contention, personal effects in these circumstances are not subject to return under Criminal Rule 41(g),
for four independent reasons. First, the search warrant authorized seizing and retaining items in containers/boxes in which documents with classification markings were stored. See MJ Docket D.E. 17 at 4. Evidence of commingling personal effects with documents bearing classification markings is relevant evidence of the statutory offenses under investigation.

Second, even if the personal effects were outside the scope of the search warrant (contrary to fact), their seizure and retention would not violate the Fourth Amendment because they were commingled with documents bearing classification markings that were indisputably within the scope of the search warrant. See, e.g., United States v. Wuagneux, 683 F.2d 1343, 1353 (11th Cir. 1982) (“It was also reasonable for the agents to remove intact files, books and folders when a particular document within the file was identified as falling with the scope of the warrant. To require otherwise ‘would substantially increase the time required to conduct the search, thereby aggravating the intrusiveness of the search.’” (citation omitted)).

Third, even if the personal effects were seized in excess of the search warrant—which Plaintiff has not established—Criminal Rule 41(g) does not require their return because that Rule was amended in 1989 to recognize that the United States may retain evidence collected while executing a warrant in good faith. See, e.g., Grimes v. CIR, 82 F.3d 286, 291 (9th Cir. 1996). As the Advisory Committee explained in connection with the 1989 amendment of Criminal Rule 41(e) (now subsection (g)), Supreme Court precedent permits “evidence seized in violation of the fourth amendment, but in good faith pursuant to a warrant,” to be used “even against a person aggrieved by the constitutional violation,” and “Rule 41(e) is not intended to deny the United States the use of evidence permitted by the fourth amendment and federal statutes.” The decoupling of Criminal Rule 41(g) from the Fourth Amendment also explains why a motion to return property provides no forum to litigate the scope of a search warrant: failure to comply with a search warrant or the Fourth Amendment is neither necessary nor sufficient to prove a movant’s entitlement to the return of property under Criminal Rule 41(g).

Fourth, and independent of the three foregoing reasons, the former President could obtain the return of his personal effects under Criminal Rule 41(g) only if he satisfies the four-part Richey test. That decision established four factors that inform whether courts should entertain a Criminal Rule 41 motion for return of property before the initiation of criminal proceedings: (1) whether the movant shows that government agents “displayed a callous disregard for . . . constitutional rights”; (2) whether the movant has an interest in and need for the material that he seeks; (3) whether he would be irreparably injured by denial of the property; and (4) whether he has an adequate remedy at law for his grievance. Richey, 515 F.2d at 1243-44 (cleaned up). Although the former President may have a property interest in his personal effects, he cannot demonstrate callous disregard of the Fourth Amendment considering the patient exhaustion of less-intrusive methods to obtain return of documents with classification markings from the Premises and FBI Special Agents’ scrupulous adherence to the terms of the search warrant, which permitted them to seize the entire “containers/boxes” in which the documents with classification markings were stored, as well as other containers/boxes stored collectively. Moreover, the former President has not established irreparable injury in the deprivation of his personal property.

B. Plaintiff Is Not Entitled to Injunctive Relief

To the extent Plaintiff seeks a preliminary injunction prohibiting the government from continuing to review seized materials while the Court considers his motion, see D.E. 1 at 14- 15, such relief is wholly unwarranted.8

“A party seeking a preliminary injunction must establish that (1) it has a substantial likelihood of success on the merits; (2) irreparable injury will be suffered unless the injunction issues; (3) the threatened injury to the movant outweighs whatever damage the proposed injunction may cause the opposing party; and (4) if issued, the injunction would not be adverse to the public interest.” Vital Pharmaceuticals, Inc. v. Alfieri, 23 F.4th 1282, 1290-91 (11th Cir. 2022) (internal quotations omitted). “A preliminary injunction is an extraordinary and drastic remedy not to be granted unless the movant clearly establishes the burden of persuasion as to the four requisites.” Id. at 1291 (internal quotations omitted).

For the reasons discussed below, the former President has not established a likelihood of success on the merits. As to the second condition for injunctive relief, the former President has failed to establish that he would suffer any injury absent an injunction—let alone an irreparable injury. First, any Presidential records seized pursuant to the search warrant belong to the United States, not to the former President. 44 U.S.C. § 2202. As such, the former President cannot claim that he is personally injured by a review of those records by personnel within the Executive Branch. See also Nixon v. Administrator of General Services, 433 U.S. 425, 451 (1977) (“Nixon v. GSA”) (review of Presidential records by “personnel in the Executive Branch sensitive to executive concerns” “constitutes a very limited intrusion” into confidentiality of former President’s records). Second, even if review of these materials by personnel within the Executive Branch constituted an injury to the former President, that injury would already be complete. As described above, personnel within the Case Team have already reviewed all of the seized materials except those withheld pursuant to the filter protocol. See supra at 3, 13. Moreover, as the government notified the Court yesterday, DOJ and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (“ODNI”) are currently facilitating a classification review of these materials, and ODNI is leading an Intelligence Community assessment of the potential risk to national security that would result from the disclosure of these materials. D.E. 31 at 2-3. Any possible injury is thus, at most, an incremental and theoretical “harm” based on further review of materials that the Case Team has already reviewed and inventoried.

Finally, the fact that the former President filed this motion two weeks after the search occurred—and only just effected service on the United States on August 29—“militates against a finding of irreparable harm.” Wreal, LLC v. Amazon.com, Inc., 840 F.3d 1244, 1248 (11th Cir. 2016). “[T]he very idea of a preliminary injunction is premised on the need for speedy and urgent action to protect a plaintiff’s rights before a case can be resolved on its merits.” Id. That is why “district courts within this Circuit and elsewhere have found that a party’s failure to act with speed or urgency in moving for a preliminary injunction necessarily undermines a finding of irreparable harm.” Id. (citing cases). Although courts have generally considered delays of “a few months” or more as a factor against granting injunctive relief, id., a delay of two weeks in this particular context is significant. Typically, parties who seek the appointment of a special master following the execution of a search warrant make such requests immediately. For example, after FBI agents executed search warrants on April 9, 2018, at various properties belonging to Michael Cohen, who had served as private counsel to then-President Trump, Cohen’s counsel sent a letter on the same day to the United States Attorney’s Office requesting an opportunity to review the seized materials and contending that documents subject to attorney-client privilege “should be protected from government review.”9 After that request was denied, Cohen filed a motion for a temporary restraining order on April 12 or April 13, 2018.10 Then-President Trump himself moved to intervene in the proceedings on April 15, 2018—just six days after the search.11 The need for promptness when a party seeks appointment of a special master is obvious: the government may begin reviewing materials as soon as they are seized, and a delay of even two weeks may well mean—as it does here—that the government has reviewed all of the seized materials by the time relief is sought. The former President’s delay in filing this motion thus strongly “militates against a finding of irreparable harm.” Wreal, 840 F.3d at 1248.

As to the third requisite for injunctive relief, “the threatened injury to the movant” is far outweighed by the “damage the proposed injunction may cause” to the government. Vital Pharmaceuticals, 23 F.4th at 1291 (internal quotations omitted). DOJ is in the midst of an ongoing criminal investigation pertaining to potential violations of the Espionage Act, 18 U.S.C. § 793(e), as well as obstruction of justice, 18 U.S.C. § 1519, and unlawful concealment or removal of government records, 18 U.S.C. § 2071. The Intelligence Community is also reviewing the seized documents to assess the potential risk to national security that would result if these materials were disclosed while they were unlawfully stored at the Premises. An injunction barring any further review of these documents would therefore not only hinder an ongoing criminal investigation, but would also thwart entirely an ongoing and sensitive review of risks to national security. For the same reasons, an injunction would plainly be “adverse to the public interest.” Vital Pharmaceuticals, 23 F.4th at 1291.

III. Even if the Former President Had Standing, the Appointment of a Special Master Would Be Unnecessary and Would Interfere with Legitimate Government Interests

As described above, the government’s privilege review team has already identified any materials potentially subject to attorney-client privilege, and the government’s investigative team has already reviewed all of the materials that were not segregated by the privilege review team. Appointment of a special master to review potential privilege claims in either category is therefore unnecessary. It would do little or nothing to protect any legitimate interests that Plaintiff may have while impeding the government’s ongoing criminal investigation, as well as the Intelligence Community’s review of potential risks to national security that may have resulted from the improper storage of the seized materials.

A. Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 53 Counsels Against Appointment of a Special Master in Circumstances Such as These

In this procedural posture, a special master can be appointed, without the parties’ consent, only to address “pretrial and post-trial matters that cannot be effectively and timely addressed by an available district judge or magistrate judge of the district.” Fed. R. Civ. P. 53(a)(1)(C). “[R]eference to a master under Rule 53 is to be the exception and not the rule.” Hayes v. Foodmaker, Inc., 634 F.2d 802, 803 (5th Cir. Unit A 1981) (per curiam) (citing La Buy v. Howes Leather Co., 352 U.S. 249, 257-58 (1957)). Rule 53(a)(1)(C)’s “restrictive language”— limiting appointments to cases where judges cannot “effectively” or “timely” address issues themselves—“carries forward the traditional notion that masters are the exception, not the usual or common practice.” 9C Charles Alan Wright and Arthur R. Miller, Fed. Prac. & Proc. § 2602.1 (3d ed.).

B. Appointment of a Special Master Is Neither Necessary nor Appropriate to Address Executive Privilege in this Case

The former President asserts (D.E. 1 at 14-16) that review by a special master is necessary because the records at issue are presumptively subject to executive privilege. But even if the former President had actually asserted executive privilege with regard to any of the seized documents (which he has not), and even if he had statutory authority to do so (which is not established), such an assertion would fail here because this case involves the recovery and review of executive records by executive officials performing core executive functions. The Supreme Court has made clear that a former President may not successfully assert executive privilege “against the very Executive Branch in whose name the privilege is invoked.” Nixon v. GSA, 433 U.S. at 447-48. And even if there might be some extraordinary circumstance in which a former President could successfully assert executive privilege against the Executive Branch, this case plainly would not qualify: the seized materials—and, in particular, any such materials marked as classified—are essential to a criminal investigation into the handling of the records themselves, and the government is also reviewing those highly sensitive records to determine whether their handling created risks to national security. Those vital Executive Branch needs far outweigh any limited burden on the general interests served by the executive privilege. Finally, appointment of a special master in these circumstances would be inconsistent with basic principles of equity.

1. A former President cannot successfully assert executive privilege against the Executive Branch in its performance of executive functions.

Even if the former President had attempted to assert executive privilege (which he has not done),12 that assertion would not justify any restrictions on Executive Branch access to the documents here. Executive privilege is “inextricably rooted in the separation of powers under the Constitution,” United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. at 708, and it “derives from the supremacy of the Executive Branch within its assigned area of constitutional responsibilities,” Nixon v. GSA, 433 U.S. at 447. The privilege exists “not for the benefit of the President as an individual, but for the benefit of the Republic.” Id. at 449. Consistent with the privilege’s function of protecting the Executive Branch as an institution, it may be invoked in appropriate cases to prevent the sharing of materials outside the Executive Branch—i.e., with Congress, the courts, or the public. Cf. Trump v. Thompson, 142 S. Ct. 680, 680 (2022) (per curiam) (noting unresolved questions about whether and under what circumstances a former President can invoke the privilege to prevent such “disclosure”—there, to Congress). Yet the former President cites no case—and the government is aware of none—in which executive privilege has been successfully invoked to prohibit the sharing of documents within the Executive Branch.

To the contrary, in what appears to be the only case in which such an assertion has ever been made, Nixon v. GSA, the Supreme Court rejected former President Nixon’s assertion that a statute requiring the General Services Administration13 to take custody of and review recordings and documents created during his presidency violated either the separation of powers or executive privilege.
433 U.S. at 433-36. Addressing the separation of powers, the Court emphasized that the Administrator of the GSA “is himself an official of the Executive Branch,” and that the GSA’s “career archivists” are likewise “Executive Branch employees.” Id. at 441. The Court rejected the former President’s invocation of privilege against the statutorily required review by the GSA, describing it as an “assertion of a privilege against the very Executive Branch in whose name the privilege is invoked.” Id. at 447-48. The Court explained that the relevant question was whether review by Executive Branch officials within the GSA would “impermissibly interfere with candid communication of views by Presidential advisers.” Id. at 451. And it held that the question was “readily resolved” because the review in question was “a very limited intrusion by personnel in the Executive Branch sensitive to executive branch concerns.” Id.

Additionally, the framework set forth in the PRA and its implementing regulations providing for the assertion of privileges by a former President, including executive privilege, see 44 U.S.C. §§ 2205(2), 2208; 36 C.F.R. § 1270.44(a) and (d), is inapplicable here.14 First, Plaintiff did not convey the seized materials to NARA as required by the PRA. As such, he cannot now maintain that he has a statutory right to make privilege assertions pursuant to that law. Second, even if the PRA process were available to Plaintiff, it does not follow that he could successfully assert executive privilege against the Executive Branch. To the contrary, the PRA makes clear that it does not expand the scope of executive privilege. See 44 U.S.C. § 2204(c)(2) (“Nothing in this Act shall be construed to confirm, limit, or expand any constitutionally-based privilege which may be available to an incumbent or former President.”). As just discussed, the only time executive privilege was asserted against the Executive Branch by a former President, the Supreme Court rejected it. Nixon v. GSA, supra.

These principles resolve the former President’s request for a special master. As in Nixon v. GSA, this case involves potential assertions of executive privilege by a former President against the “Executive Branch in whose name the privilege is invoked.” 433 U.S. at 447- 48. This case does not implicate any disclosure outside the Executive Branch, and the review of the records at issue is being conducted “by personnel in the Executive Branch sensitive to executive concerns.” Id. at 451; see also id. at 444 (“t is clearly less intrusive to place custody and screening of the materials within the Executive Branch itself than to have Congress or some outside agency perform the screening function.”). Accordingly, [i]even in a case where records might be withheld from the public pursuant to a valid assertion of privilege, there would not be a basis for withholding them from review by the Executive Branch itself in pursuit of its core executive functions.

2. Even if a former President could in some circumstances assert executive privilege against the Executive Branch, no such assertion would be valid here.

In any event, even if there could be some extraordinary circumstance in which a former President could validly assert executive privilege against the Executive Branch itself, this case plainly would not qualify. The Executive Branch is reviewing the records at issue in furtherance of two core executive functions: investigating the potential unlawful handling of the records, including highly classified records, and assessing the resulting risks to national security. Access to the records is essential to the performance of those functions. And those vital Executive Branch interests far outweigh any burden on the institutional interests the privilege serves to protect—particularly where, as here, the former President has not even attempted to establish any particularized harm from the review of specific records.

In United States v. Nixon, the Supreme Court held that the need for evidence in a criminal trial outweighed even a sitting President’s assertion of executive privilege over presidential communications. The Court explained that, although the “[t]he interest in preserving confidentiality is weighty indeed and entitled to great respect,” 418 U.S. at 712, assertions of the privilege must also “be considered in light of our historic commitment to the rule of law. This is nowhere more profoundly manifest than in our view that the twofold aim (of criminal justice) is that guilt shall not escape or innocence suffer,” id. at 708-709 (internal quotations omitted). Ultimately, the Court concluded that “[t]he generalized assertion of privilege must yield to the demonstrated, specific need for evidence in a pending criminal trial.” Id. at 713.

Similar logic applies here. The records at issue were seized pursuant to a search warrant reflecting a judicial finding of probable cause to believe that they constitute evidence of violations of statutes specifically governing the handling of government records in general and national defense information in particular. See supra at 11-12 (citing 18 U.S.C. §§ 793 and 2071, as well as 18 U.S.C. § 1519). The Executive Branch has a “demonstrated, specific need” for the records at issue, Nixon, 418 U.S. at 713, because the records—and particularly any records marked as classified—are central to the investigation. Indeed, they are the very subject of the relevant statutes. And, even more so than in United States v. Nixon, there is little risk that the possibility of review in the highly unusual circumstances presented here would materially chill communications by future presidential advisers. See 418 U.S. at 712 (presidential advisors would not likely “be moved to temper the candor of their remarks by the infrequent occasions of disclosure because of the possibility that such conversations will be called for in the context of a criminal prosecution”). To the contrary, the Executive Branch’s efforts here are designed to ensure the confidentiality and proper treatment of sensitive presidential records that were improperly stored—a process that should enhance, rather than undermine, future presidential communications.15

The Executive Branch’s review here also serves another compelling interest that was not at issue in Nixon: The records at issue include sensitive and highly classified documents. As the government has explained, the Intelligence Community, under the supervision of the Director of National Intelligence, is conducting a classification review of those documents and an assessment of the potential risk to national security that could result from their disclosure. D.E. 31 at 2-3. That additional vital purpose provides yet further reason to conclude that the Executive Branch’s interest in securing and reviewing the materials at issue here outweighs any limited burden on the confidentiality of presidential communications— and thus that the privilege would be overcome even if it were validly asserted. This Court should be particularly reluctant to order disclosure of highly classified materials to a special master absent an especially strong showing that such a step is necessary. Cf. United States v. Reynolds, 345 U.S. 1, 10-11 (1952) (courts should be cautious before requiring judicial review, even ex parte and in camera, of documents whose disclosure would jeopardize national security).

3. Appointment of a special master to review materials for claims of executive privilege would be inconsistent with principles of equity.

The former President has sought to invoke this Court’s equitable jurisdiction, see D.E. 1 at 14; D.E. 28 at 1, 6-8, but appointment of a special master to review the seized materials for claims of executive privilege would be fundamentally inequitable. First, to the extent the former President’s arguments rest on a claim that he has been deprived of his rights under the PRA to assert potential privilege claims, see D.E. 1 at 12, the former President forfeited the ability to rely on the PRA by failing to provide his records to NARA, as the law requires. Had the seized records been returned to NARA—upon the former President’s departure from office, or during the many months afterward in which NARA sought return of the missing records—Plaintiff could have at least tendered a claim of executive privilege to the Archivist with regard to any materials sought by DOJ. Indeed, that is precisely what occurred when DOJ sought access to the fifteen boxes that were returned to NARA in January 2022. See supra at 7.16 As described above, the government resorted to a search warrant only after the former President failed to return missing records as requested by NARA and then as required by a grand jury subpoena. See supra at 4-5, 8-10. The government’s seizure of these records through use of a search warrant is a direct result of Plaintiff’s own conduct, and this “inequitable conduct” “make[s] equitable relief inappropriate.” Ramirez v. Collier, 142 S. Ct. 1264, 1282 (2022).

Second, for the reasons described above, the government has an urgent interest in continuing its review of these materials, both for purposes of its criminal investigation and to assess potential national security risks caused by improper storage of classified records. Appointment of a special master would undoubtedly delay both processes—including because a special master would likely need to obtain a security clearance and specific authorization from relevant entities within the Intelligence Community to review particularly sensitive materials.

Third, appointment of a special master for purposes of reviewing executive privilege claims is not necessary to protect any personal rights belonging to the former President. Unlike possible assertions of attorney-client privilege by the former President with respect to his personal counsel, which is a personal right that belongs to the client, see, e.g., In re Special September 1978 Grand Jury (II), 640 F.2d 49, 62 (7th Cir. 1980), executive privilege exists not “for the benefit of the President as an individual, but for the benefit of the Republic,” Nixon v. GSA, 433 U.S. at 449. In any event, as discussed above, the investigative team has already reviewed all of the seized materials that were not segregated by the filter team. Restricting further review by the government—including by the Intelligence Community—would therefore do little to protect Plaintiff’s purported interests or rights.
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C. This Case Does Not Involve the Search of an Attorney’s Office and the Attorney-Client Privilege Issues Presented Are Not Complex, Voluminous, or Novel

The appointment of a special master is not necessary to adjudicate potential attorney-client privilege issues. “[I]t is well-established that filter teams—also called ‘taint teams’—are routinely employed to conduct privilege reviews.” In re Sealed Search Warrant & Application for a Warrant by Tel. or Other Reliable Elec. Means, No. 20-MJ-3278, 2020 WL 6689045, at *2 (S.D. Fla. Nov. 2, 2020) (citing multiple Eleventh Circuit cases approving the use of filter teams), aff’d, 11 F.4th 1235 (11th Cir. 2021). Tellingly, the cases relied upon by the former President that have employed special masters rather than filter teams invariably involve the search of law offices. See D.E. 1 at 18-19; D.E. 28 at 5-6. The former President analogizes searches of law offices to the present search by claiming that they are “contexts involving similar matters of privilege.” D.E. 1 at 18. Looking at the cases he cites, however, and the reasons why special masters have been appointed when law offices have been searched, it becomes clear that searches of law offices and the instant search do not at all involve similar privilege concerns.

The cases cited by the former President involve thorny issues presented by searches of law firms. In particular, courts have cited the complexities posed when materials are seized from attorneys involving multiple clients. See, e.g., In Re: Search Warrant Issued June 13, 2019, 942 F.3d 159, 166-67 (4th Cir. 2019) (“The electronically seized materials contained all of Lawyer A’s email correspondence, including email correspondence related to Client A and numerous other Law Firm clients. More specifically, Lawyer A’s seized email inbox contained approximately 37,000 emails, of which 62 were from Client A or contained Client A’s surname.”); see id. at 178 (“[T]he judge may well have rejected the Filter Team and its Protocol if the judge had known (1) that 99.8 percent of the 52,000 seized emails were not from Client A, were not sent to Client A, and did not mention Client A’s surname; and (2) that many of those seized emails contained privileged information concerning other clients of the Law Firm.”); id. at 181 (citing other cases involving the appointment of a special master, all of which involved searches of attorney offices); In re Sealed Search Warrant & Application for a Warrant by Tel. or Other Reliable Elec. Means, 2020 WL 6689045, at *2 (“As Judge O’Sullivan aptly noted, ‘[m]ost of the cases cited by the movants concern the searches of criminal defense attorneys or law firms that performed some criminal defense work’ . . . . Indeed, those cases involved different concerns than those posed by the case at hand, as there was a risk that the members of the filter team would at some point be involved in the criminal investigation and/or prosecution of other clients who were not the subject of the underlying investigation.”); United States v. Stewart, No. 02-CR-395, 2002 WL 1300059, at *3 (S.D.N.Y. June 11, 2002) (“Both parties also rightly agree that law office searches raise special concerns . . . .); In re Search Warrants Executed on April 28, 2021, No. 1:21-MC-425, D.E. 1 at 2 (S.D.N.Y. May 4, 2021) (“nder certain exceptional circumstances, the appointment of a special master to review materials seized from an attorney may be appropriate. Those [u]circumstances may exist where the search involves the files of a criminal defense attorney with cases adverse to the United States Attorney’s Office . . . .”); see also United States v. Abbell, 914 F. Supp. 519, 519 (S.D. Fla. 1995) (describing the “responsiveness and privilege issues raised” in the search of a law firm office as “exceptional”).17

The attorney-client privilege issues in this case present none of the complexities associated with a search of a law firm. This is not a case where a U.S. Attorney’s office has seized materials related to multiple clients who may also be under investigation by the same office. Moreover, as noted above, the volume of documents is small, and the government’s filter team has already completed its review of them. It is prepared to follow the procedures set forth in the warrant, and introducing a special master would only result in delay to the process.

D. The Court Should Not Appoint a Special Master, But if It Does, the Below Conditions Should Apply

For all the above reasons, the Court should not appoint a special master. If the Court decides to do so, as directed by the Court, the government proposes the following conditions.

First, the Court should direct the parties to confer and submit a joint list of proposed candidates by September 7, 2022.

Second, the special master should be required to submit an affidavit concerning any potential bases for disqualification before this Court issues an appointment order. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 53(b)(3)(A).

Third, the Court should specify the following duties and impose the following limitations:

The special master’s duties should be limited to assessing Plaintiff’s claims of attorney-client privilege over the set of potentially privileged documents identified by the Privilege Review Team. Fed. R. Civ. P. 53(b)(2)(A). For the reasons articulated above, there is no precedent or basis for appointing a special master to review documents for executive privilege and barring current Executive Branch law enforcement officials or officers from continuing to access that material, including to assess national security risks.

• If the special master must be permitted to review classified documents, in order to avoid unnecessary delay, the special master should already possess a Top Secret/SCI security clearance.


• The special master should be allowed to communicate ex parte with the Court or either party to facilitate the review, although all final decisions must be provided to both parties to allow for either party to seek the Court’s review. Fed. R. Civ. P. 53(b)(2)(B).

Any documents that reflect the special master’s rulings, including orders, privilege logs, or other records, should be preserved and filed under seal with the Court but made available to both parties. Fed. R. Civ. P. 53(b)(2)(C).

• The parties should have 10 days, after receiving notice of a final order or decision, to seek Court review, instead of the typical 21-day period. Fed. R. Civ. P. 53(b)(2)(D), (f)(2). As Rule 53 provides, the Court should review both legal and factual issues de novo, see Fed. R. Civ. P. 53(f)(3); because the central disputed issues concern privilege, an issue that courts traditionally decide, there is no need to apply any deferential standard of review to the special master’s determinations. The Court should also review procedural issues de novo for the same reason, contrary to the default rule provided by Rule 53(f)(5).

• The Court should impose a deadline for the special master’s review, with final decisions on all disputed documents to be made by September 30, 2022. As discussed above, the volume of material at issue is not large.

Conclusion

For the foregoing reasons, the Court should deny Plaintiff’s Motion for Judicial Oversight (D.E. 1) and decline to require the return of seized items, enjoin further review of seized materials, or appoint a special master.

Respectfully submitted,

/s Juan Antonio Gonzalez
JUAN ANTONIO GONZALEZ
UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
Florida Bar No. 897388
99 NE 4th Street, 8th Floor
Miami, FL 33132
Tel: 305-961-9001
Email: juan.antonio.gonzalez@usdoj.gov

/s Jay I. Bratt
JAY I. BRATT
CHIEF
Counterintelligence and Export Control Section
National Security Division
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20530
Illinois Bar No. 6187361
Tel: 202-233-0986
Email: jay.bratt2@usdoj.gov

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE

I HEREBY CERTIFY that I caused the attached document to be electronically transmitted to the Clerk’s Office using the CM/ECF system for filing and transmittal of a notice of electronic filing.

/s Juan Antonio Gonzalez
JUAN ANTONIO GONZALEZ
UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
Florida Bar No. 897388
99 NE 4th Street, 8th Floor
Miami, FL 33132
Tel: 305-961-9001
Email: juan.antonio.gonzalez@usdoj.gov

Attachment A

NATIONAL ARCHIVES
Archivist of the United States

DAVID S. FERRIERO

T: 202.357.5900
F: 202.357.5901
david.ferriero@nara.gov
National Archives and Records Administration
700 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20408
http://www.archives.gov

February 18, 2022

The Honorable Carolyn B. Maloney
Chairwoman
Committee on Oversight and Reform
U.S. House of Representatives

2157 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20514

Dear Madam Chairwoman:

I write in response to your letter of February 9, 2022, in which you asked a number of questions relating to "the 15 boxes of presidential records that the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) recently recovered from former President Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence." Please see our responses to each of your questions:

1. Did NARA ask the representatives of former President Trump about missing records prior to the 15 boxes being identified? If so, what information was provided in response?

Answer: NARA had ongoing communications with the representatives of former President Trump throughout 2021, which resulted in the transfer of 15 boxes to NARA in January 2022.

2. Has NARA conducted an inventory of the contents of the boxes recovered from Mar-a-Lago?

Answer: NARA is in the process of inventorying the contents of the boxes.

3. Please provide a detailed description of the contents of the recovered boxes, including any inventory prepared by NARA of the contents of the boxes. If an inventory has not yet been completed, please provide an estimate of when such an inventory will be completed.

Answer: NARA staff are in the process of inventorying the contents of the boxes, which we expect to complete by February 25. Because the records in the boxes are subject to the Presidential Records Act (PRA), any request for information regarding the content of the records will need to be made in accordance with section 2205(2)(() of the PRA.

4. Are the contents of the boxes of records recovered by NARA undergoing a review to determine if they contain classified information? If so, who is conducting that review and has any classified information been found?

Answer: NARA has identified items marked as classified national security information within the boxes.

5. Is NARA aware of any additional presidential records from the Trump Administration that may be missing or not yet in NARA's possession?

Answer: NARA has identified certain social media records that were not captured and preserved by the Trump Administration. NARA has also learned that some White House staff conducted official business using non-official electronic messaging accounts that were not copied or forwarded into their official electronic messaging accounts, as required by section 2209 of the PRA. NARA has already obtained or is in the process of obtaining some of those records.

6. What efforts has NARA taken, and is NARA taking, to ensure that any additional records that have not been turned over to NARA are not lost or destroyed?


Answer: NARA has asked the representatives of former President Trump to continue to search for any additional Presidential records that have not been transferred to NARA, as required by the Presidential Records Act.

7. Has the Archivist notified the Attorney General that former President Trump removed presidential records from the White House? If not, why not?

Answer: Because NARA identified classified information in the boxes, NARA staff has been in communication with the Department of Justice.

8. Is NARA aware of presidential records that President Trump destroyed or attempted to destroy without the approval of NARA? If so, please provide a detailed description of such records, the actions taken by President Trump to destroy or attempt to destroy them, and any actions NARA has taken to recover or preserve these documents.

Answer: In June 2018, NARA learned from a press report in Politico that textual Presidential records were being torn up by former President Trump and that White House staff were attempting to tape them back together. NARA sent a letter to the Deputy Counsel to the President asking for information about the extent of the problem and how it is being addressed. The White House Counsel's Office indicated that they would address the matter. After the end of the Trump Administration, NARA learned that additional paper records that had been torn up by former President Trump were included in the records transferred to us. Although White House staff during the Trump Administration recovered and taped together some of the torn-up records, a number of other torn-up records that were transferred had not been reconstructed by the White House.


Sincerely,

DAVID S. FERRIERO
Archivist of the United States

cc: The Honorable James Comer, Ranking Member

Attachment B

NATIONAL ARCHIVES
Archivist of the United States

DAVID S. FERRIERO
T: 202.357.5900
F: 202.357.5901
david.ferriero@nara.gov
National Archives and Records Administration
700 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20408
http://www.archives.gov

May 10, 2022

Evan Corcoran
Silverman Thompson
400 East Pratt Street
Suite 900
Baltimore, MD 21202
By Email

Dear Mr. Corcoran:

I write in response to your letters of April 29, 2022, and May 1, 2022, requesting that the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) further delay the disclosure to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) of the records that were the subject of our April 12, 2022 notification to an authorized representative of former President Trump.

As you are no doubt aware, NARA had ongoing communications with the former President's representatives throughout 2021 about what appeared to be missing Presidential records, which resulted in the transfer of 15 boxes of records to NARA in January 2022. In its initial review of materials within those boxes, NARA identified items marked as classified national security information, up to the level of Top Secret and including Sensitive Compartmented Information and Special Access Program materials. NARA informed the Department of Justice about that discovery, which prompted the Department to ask the President to request that NARA provide the FBI with access to the boxes at issue so that the FBI and others in the Intelligence Community could examine them. On April 11, 2022, the White House Counsel's Office -- affirming a request from the Department of Justice supported by an FBI letterhead memorandum -- formally transmitted a request that NARA provide the FBI access to the 15 boxes for its review within seven days, with the possibility that the FBI might request copies of specific documents following its review of the boxes.

Although the Presidential Records Act (PRA) generally restricts access to Presidential records in NARA's custody for several years after the conclusion of a President's tenure in office, the statute further provides that, "subject to any rights, defenses, or privileges which the United States or any agency or person may invoke," such records "shall be made available ... to an incumbent President if such records contain information that is needed for the conduct of current business of the incumbent President's office and that is not otherwise available." 44 U.S.C. § 2205(2)(B). Those conditions are satisfied here. As the Department of Justice's National Security Division explained to you on April 29, 2022:

There are important national security interests in the FBI and others in the Intelligence Community getting access to these materials. According to NARA, among the materials in the boxes are over 100 documents with classification markings, comprising more than 700 pages. Some include the highest levels of classification, including Special Access Program (SAP) materials. Access to the materials is not only necessary for purposes of our ongoing criminal investigation, but the Executive Branch must also conduct an assessment of the potential damage resulting from the apparent manner in which these materials were stored and transported and take any necessary remedial steps. Accordingly, we are seeking immediate access to these materials so as to facilitate the necessary assessments that need to be conducted within the Executive Branch.


We advised you in writing on April 12 that, "in light of the urgency of this request," we planned to "provid[e] access to the FBI next week," i.e., the week of April 18. See Exec. Order No. 13,489, § 2(b), 74 Fed. Reg. 4,669 (Jan. 21, 2009) (providing a 30-day default before disclosure but authorizing the Archivist to specify "a shorter period of time" if "required under the circumstances"); accord 36 C.F.R. § 1270.44(g) ("The Archivist may adjust any time period or deadline under this subpart, as appropriate, to accommodate records requested under this section."). In response to a request from another representative of the former President, the White House Counsel's Office acquiesced in an extension of the production date to April 29, and so advised NARA. In accord with that agreement, we had not yet provided the FBI with access to the records when we received your letter on April 29, and we have continued to refrain from providing such access to date.

It has now been four weeks since we first informed you of our intent to provide the FBI access to the boxes so that it and others in the Intelligence Community can conduct their reviews. Notwithstanding the urgency conveyed by the Department of Justice and the reasonable extension afforded to the former President, your April 29 letter asks for additional time for you to review the materials in the boxes "in order to ascertain whether any specific document is subject to privilege," and then to consult with the former President "so that he may personally make any decision to assert a claim of constitutionally based privilege." Your April 29 letter further states that in the event we do not afford you further time to review the records before NARA discloses them in response to the request, we should consider your letter to be "a protective assertion of executive privilege made by counsel for the former President."

The Counsel to the President has informed me that, in light of the particular circumstances presented here, President Biden defers to my determination, in consultation with the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel, regarding whether or not I should uphold the former President's purported "protective assertion of executive privilege." See 36 C.F.R. § 1270.44(f)(3). Accordingly, I have consulted with the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel to inform my "determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of privilege." Exec. Order No. 13,489, § 4(a).

The Assistant Attorney General has advised me that there is no precedent for an assertion of executive privilege by a former President against an incumbent President to prevent the latter from obtaining from NARA Presidential records belonging to the Federal Government where "such records contain information that is needed for the conduct of current business of the incumbent President's office and that is not otherwise available." 44 U.S.C. § 2205(2)(B).

To the contrary, the Supreme Court's decision in Nixon v. Administrator of General Services, 433 U.S. 425 (1977), strongly suggests that a former President may not successfully assert executive privilege "against the very Executive Branch in whose name the privilege is invoked." Id. at 447-48. In Nixon v. GSA, the Court rejected former President Nixon's argument that a statute requiring that Presidential records from his term in office be maintained in the custody of, and screened by, NARA's predecessor agency -- a "very limited intrusion by personnel in the Executive Branch sensitive to executive concerns" -- would "impermissibly interfere with candid communication of views by Presidential advisers." Id. at 451 ; see also id. at 455 (rejecting the claim). The Court specifically noted that an "incumbent President should not be dependent on happenstance or the whim of a prior President when he seeks access to records of past decisions that define or channel current governmental obligations." Id. at 452; see also id. at 441-46 (emphasizing, in the course of rejecting a separation-of-powers challenge to a provision of a federal statute governing the disposition of former President Nixon 's tape recordings, papers, and other historical materials "within the Executive Branch," where the "employees of that branch [would] have access to the materials only 'for lawful Government use,"' that "[t]he Executive Branch remains in full control of the Presidential materials, and the Act facially is designed to ensure that the materials can be released only when release is not barred by some applicable privilege inherent in that branch"; and concluding that "nothing contained in the Act renders it unduly disruptive of the Executive Branch").

It is not necessary that I decide whether there might be any circumstances in which a former President could successfully assert a claim of executive privilege to prevent an Executive Branch agency from having access to Presidential records for the performance of valid executive functions. The question in this case is not a close one. The Executive Branch here is seeking access to records belonging to, and in the custody of, the Federal Government itself, not only in order to investigate whether those records were handled in an unlawful manner but also, as the National Security Division explained, to "conduct an assessment of the potential damage resulting from the apparent manner in which these materials were stored and transported and take any necessary remedial steps." These reviews will be conducted by current government personnel who, like the archival officials in Nixon v. GSA, are "sensitive to executive concerns." Id. at 451. And on the other side of the balance, there is no reason to believe such reviews could "adversely affect the ability of future Presidents to obtain the candid advice necessary for effective decision-making." Id. at 450. To the contrary: Ensuring that classified information is appropriately protected, and taking any necessary remedial action if it was not, are steps essential to preserving the ability of future Presidents to "receive the full and frank submissions of facts and opinions upon which effective discharge of [their] duties depends." Id. at 449.

Because an assertion of executive privilege against the incumbent President under these circumstances would not be viable, it follows that there is no basis for the former President to make a "protective assertion of executive privilege," which the Assistant Attorney General informs me has never been made outside the context of a congressional demand for information from the Executive Branch. Even assuming for the sake of argument that a former President may under some circumstances make such a "protective assertion of executive privilege" to preclude the Archivist from complying with a disclosure otherwise prescribed by 44 U.S.C. § 2205(2), there is no predicate for such a "protective" assertion here, where there is no realistic basis that the requested delay would result in a viable assertion of executive privilege against the incumbent President that would prevent disclosure of records for the purposes of the reviews described above. Accordingly, the only end that would be served by upholding the "protective" assertion here would be to delay those very important reviews.

I have therefore decided not to honor the former President's "protective" claim of privilege. See Exec. Order No. 13,489, § 4(a); see also 36 C.F.R. 1270.44(f)(3) (providing that unless the incumbent President "uphold[s]" the claim asserted by the former President, "the Archivist discloses the Presidential record"). For the same reasons, I have concluded that there is no reason to grant your request for a further delay before the FBI and others in the Intelligence Community begin their reviews. Accordingly, NARA will provide the FBI access to the records in question, as requested by the incumbent President, beginning as early as Thursday, May 12, 2022.

Please note that, in accordance with the PRA, 44 U.S.C. § 2205(3), the former President's designated representatives can review the records, subject to obtaining the appropriate level of security clearance. Please contact my General Counsel, Gary M. Stern, if you would like to discuss the details of such a review, such as you proposed in your letter of May 5, 2022, particularly with respect to any unclassified materials.

Sincerely,

DEBRA STEIDEL WALL
Acting Archivist of the United States

Attachment C

AO 110 (Rev. 06/09) Subpoena to Testify Before a Grand Jury

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
for the
District of Columbia

SUBPOENA TO TESTIFY BEFORE A GRAND JURY

To: Custodian of Records
The Office of Donald J. Trump
1100 South Ocean Blvd.
Palm Beach, FL 33480

YOU ARE COMMANDED to appear in this United States district court at the time, date, and place shown below to testify before the court's grand jury. When you arrive, you must remain at the court until the judge or a court officer allows you to leave.

Place: U.S. DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
U.S. Courthouse, 3rd Floor Grand Jury #21-09
333 Constitution Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20001

Date and Time:
May 24, 2022
9:00 a.m.

You must also bring with you the following documents, electronically stored information, or objects:

Any and all documents or writings in the custody or control of Donald J. Trump and/or the Office of Donald J. Trump bearing classification markings, including but not limited to the following: Top Secret, Secret, Confidential, Top Secret/SI-G/NOFORN/ORCON, Top Secret/SI-G/NOFORN, Top Secret/HCS- O/NOFORN/ORCON, Top Secret/HCS-O/NOFORN, Top Secret/HCS-P/NOFORN/ORCON, Top Secret/HCS-P/NOFORN, Top Secret/TK/NOFORN/ORCON, Top Secret/TK/NOFORN, 1- Secret/NOFORN, Confidential/NOFORN, TS, TS/SAP, TS/SI-G/NF/OC, TS/SI-G/NF, TS/HCS- O/NF/OC, TS/HCS-0/NF, TS/HCS-P/NF/OC, TS/HCS-P/NF, TS/HCS-P/SI-G, TS/HCS-P/SI/TK, TS/TK/NF/OC, TS/TK/NF, S/NF, S/FRD, S/NATO, S/SI, C, and C/NF.

Date: May 11, 2022

The name, address, telephone number and email of the prosecutor who requests this subpoena are:

Jay I. Bratt
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20530
jay.bratt2@usdoj.gov

Subpoena #GJ2022042790054
CO 293 (Rev. 8/91) Subpoena to Testify Before Grand Jury

RETURN OF SERVICE

[omitted here]

Attachment D

U.S. Department of Justice
National Security Division
Counterintelligence and Export Control Section
Washington, D.C. 20530

May 11, 2022

M. Evan Corcoran, Esq.
Silverman Thompson
400 East Pratt Street - Suite 900
Baltimore, Maryland 21202

Re: Grand Jury Subpoena

Dear Mr. Corcoran:

Thank you for agreeing to accept service of the grand jury subpoena on behalf of the custodian of records for the Office of Donald J. Trump.

As we discussed, in lieu of personally appearing on May 24, the custodian may comply with the subpoena by providing any responsive documents to the FBI at the place of their location. The FBI will ensure that the agents retrieving the documents have the proper clearances and will handle the materials in the appropriate manner. The custodian would also provide a sworn certification that the documents represent all responsive records. If there are no responsive documents, the custodian would provide a sworn certification to that effect.

Thank you again for your cooperation.

Very truly yours,

Jay I. Bratt
Chief
Counterintelligence and Export Control Section
[DELETE]
jav.bratt2@,usdoj.gov

Attachment E

CERTIFICATION


I hereby certify as follows:

1. I have been designated to serve as Custodian of Records for The Office of Donald J. Trump, for purposes of the testimony and documents subject to subpoena #GJ20222042790054.

2. I understand that this certification is made to comply with the subpoena, in lieu of a personal appearance and testimony.

3. Based upon the information that has been provided to me, I am authorized to certify, on behalf of the Office of Donald J. Trump, the following:

a. A diligent search was conducted of the boxes that were moved from the White House to Florida;


b. This search was conducted after receipt of the subpoena, in order to locate any and all documents that are responsive to the subpoena;

c. Any and all responsive documents accompany this certification; and

d. No copy, written notation, or reproduction of any kind was retained as to any responsive document.

I swear or affirm that the above statements are true and correct to the best of my knowledge.

Dated: June 3, 2022

[DELETE]

[DELETE]

Attachment F

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Notes:

1 Plaintiff also sought a more detailed receipt for the property seized during the August 8,  2022 execution of the search warrant. D.E. 1 at 19-21; see generally D.E. 28. The Court ordered  the government to file under seal “[a] more detailed Receipt for Property specifying all property seized pursuant to the search warrant.” D.E. 29 at 2. The government filed today under seal, in accordance with the Court’s order, the more detailed receipt. Although the receipt of property already provided to Plaintiff at the time of the search, see In Re Sealed Search Warrant, No. 22-MJ-8332 (S.D. Fla.) (hereinafter, “MJ Docket”), D.E. 17 at 5-7, is sufficient under Fed. R. Crim. P. 41, the government is prepared, given the extraordinary  circumstances, to unseal the more detailed receipt and provide it immediately to Plaintiff.
 
2 The former President disclosed this subpoena and a subpoena for video footage at the Premises in his filings to this Court. See, e.g., D.E. 1 at 5-6. Thereafter, on August 29, 2022, Chief Judge Howell in the District of Columbia authorized the government to disclose to this Court these grand jury subpoenas and material discussed herein.
 
3 Here and in other parts of this public filing, the government refers to evidence developed in its investigation in order to inform the Court of the relevant facts. Of necessity, however, the government cannot publicly describe the sources of its evidence, particularly while the investigation remains ongoing. As Judge Reinhart concluded, revealing this type of information could “impede the ongoing investigation through obstruction of justice and witness intimidation or retaliation.” MJ Docket D.E. 80 at 9.
 
4 According to Plaintiff’s filing, the former President had determined that the search for the materials should be conducted. D.E. 1 at 5.
 
5 Plaintiff states that “[t]here is no criminal enforcement mechanism or penalty” in the Presidential Records Act, and then suggests that DOJ may have “recognize[d] that deficiency, and then decide[d] to re-categorize this case as relating to national security materials[ ]simply to manufacture a basis to seek a search warrant” and may have “mischaracterize[d] the types of documents it sought.” D.E. 1 at 12. These accusations are belied by the statutes cited in the government’s search warrant, which make clear that this investigation is not simply about efforts to recover improperly retained Presidential records. Moreover, 18 U.S.C. § 2071 criminalizes the concealment or removal of government records, including Presidential records.
 
6 Plaintiff repeatedly claims that his passports were outside the scope of the warrant and improperly seized, and that the government, in returning them, has admitted as much. See  D.E. 1 at 2 & n.2; D.E. 28 at 3, 8, 9. These claims are incorrect. Consistent with Attachment  B to the search warrant, the government seized the contents of a desk drawer that contained classified documents and governmental records commingled with other documents. The other documents included two official passports, one of which was expired, and one personal passport, which was expired. The location of the passports is relevant evidence in an investigation of unauthorized retention and mishandling of national defense information; nonetheless, the government decided to return those passports in its discretion.
 
7 Pre-October 1, 1981 Fifth Circuit decisions are binding precedent in this Circuit. Bonner v.  City of Prichard, 661 F.2d 1206, 1209 (11th Cir. 1981) (en banc).
 
8 Plaintiff’s motion cites Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(b)(5) and (c)(1) and this Court’s Local Rule 26.1(g) in support of this request. D.E. 1 at 15. These provisions relate to privilege claims during pre-trial discovery in civil cases, not privilege claims regarding materials seized pursuant to a search warrant. The former President’s request is more properly construed as a request for a preliminary injunction under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 65.
 
9 Exhibit A to Decl. of Todd Harrison in Support of an Order to Show Cause, Cohen v. United States, No. 1:18-MJ-3161, D.E. 7-1 (S.D.N.Y. Apr. 13, 2018).
 
10 See Mem. of Law in Support of Michael D. Cohen’s Order to Show Cause and a Temporary Restraining Order, Cohen, No. 1:18-MJ-3161, D.E. 6 (S.D.N.Y. Apr. 13, 2018). Although this filing was docketed on April 13, 2018, the text of the motion is dated April 12, 2018, id. at 28, and a declaration from Cohen’s attorney asserts that counsel for Cohen notified the U.S. Attorney’s Office on April 12, 2018 that it intended to file the application, see Harrison Decl., Cohen, No. 1:18-MJ-3161, D.E. 7 at 7 (S.D.N.Y. Apr. 13, 2018).
 
11 See Letter Motion, Cohen v. United States, No. 1:18-MJ-3161, D.E. 8 (S.D.N.Y. Apr. 15, 2018).
 
12 Plaintiff’s motion does not purport to include any assertion of executive privilege by the former President; instead, it refers (at 15) to “potentially privileged materials” and appears to suggest that a special master should determine in the first instance whether the privilege applies. Plaintiff's assertion that because the documents “were created during his term as President,” they are “‘presumptively privileged’ until proven otherwise,” D.E. 1 at 15 (quoting United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. 683, 713 (1974)), is therefore incorrect. That presumption arises only “[u]pon receiving a claim of privilege from the Chief Executive.”  United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. at 713. Additionally, a former President can invoke executive privilege only with respect to communications made “‘in performance of [the President's] responsibilities.’” Nixon v. GSA, 433 U.S. at 449 (quoting United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. at  711).
 
13 At the time Nixon v. GSA was litigated, the National Archives was a part of the General Services Administration. In 1985, Congress created the National Archives and Records Administration as a separate agency.
 
14 Plaintiff also cites Armstrong v. Bush, 924 F.2d 282, 290 (D.C. Cir. 1991) for the proposition that he has “virtually complete control” over Presidential records during his term of office, see  D.E. 1 at 12, but Armstrong is wholly inapposite. The court in that case was discussing control of Presidential records by a sitting President, not a former President. See id. As the sources relied upon by Armstrong make clear, that control terminates at the end of the  President’s time in office. Id. (citing H.R. Rep. No. 95-1487, 95th Cong., 2d Sess. 2 (1978), reprinted in U.S.C.C.A.N. 5732, 5733); see id. at 291 (explaining that the PRA provides for “presidential control of records creation, management, and disposal during the President’s term of office” and “public ownership and access to the records after the expiration of the President’s term.”) (emphases added).
 
15 Of course, as DOJ and other Executive Branch personnel conduct their review of the seized materials, they will continue to be “sensitive to executive concerns” regarding confidentiality.  Nixon v. GSA, 433 U.S. at 452.
 
16 Notably, however, the former President never interposed any executive privilege objection to returning the set of classified documents that was provided by his custodian of records on June 3.
 
17 The former President also cites to a Justice Manual provision, “9-13.420 § F,” for the  proposition that prosecutors must consider “[w]ho will conduct the review, i.e., a privilege team, a judicial officer, or a special master.” He fails to mention that this provision is under a provision that is specific to searches of attorney offices; Section 9-13.420 is titled “Searches  of Premises of Subject Attorneys.” This provision reinforces that searches of attorney offices are uniquely fraught and may require different procedures than the searches of non-attorney premises such as this one.
 
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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

Postby admin » Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:36 pm

Trump’s Truth Social barred from Google Play store over content moderation concerns
by Jack Stebbins @JACKSTEBBS
CNBC
PUBLISHED TUE, AUG 30 202210:04 AM EDTUPDATED TUE, AUG 30 20222:46 PM EDT

KEY POINTS
* Donald Trump’s Truth Social is not available on the Google Play store.
* The restriction means that 44% of smartphone users in the U.S. cannot download the app.
* Google says that the app violates the Play store’s standards for content moderation, according to Axios.

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Donald Trump’s social media app “Truth Social” in Apple’s App Store on an iPhone 12. Christoph Dernbach | Picture Alliance | Getty Images

Truth Social, the would-be Twitter competitor created by Trump Media and Technology Group, remains unavailable on the Google Play store.

Google said the app lacks effective systems for moderating user-generated content, which violates the store’s terms of service.

“On Aug. 19, we notified Truth Social of several violations of standard policies in their current app submission and reiterated that having effective systems for moderating user-generated content is a condition of our terms of service for any app to go live on Google Play,”
the tech company, which is owned by Alphabet, told CNBC in a statement Tuesday.

Axios first reported the Google statement.

The restriction means that Android users, who make up 44% of smartphone users in the U.S., can’t download the app. Google will not let the app go live until the content issues are addressed. Truth Social acknowledged Google’s concerns and said it would work on addressing these issues, according to Axios.

Trump Media and Technology Group CEO Devin Nunes told a different story. The former lawmaker, who was one of former President Donald Trump’s staunchest allies in Congress, said the decision is up to Google and not dependent on Truth Social’s policies.

“When are we going to be available on Android? Well, look, that’s up to the Google Play store. We’re waiting on them to approve us, I don’t know what’s taking so long,” Nunes said on the “Just the News Not Noise” podcast. “It sure would be nice if they would approve us.”

Google said that Nunes’ statements misrepresent the ongoing dialogue between Trump Media and the Play store. Google reiterated that Truth Social’s violations, and the steps to redress them, have been clearly communicated with the company.

Trump Media pushed back, saying Truth Social was creating a “vibrant, family-friendly environment.”

“TMTG has no desire to litigate its business matters in the public sphere, but for the record, has promptly responded to all inquiries from Google,”
the company said in a press release Tuesday. “It is our belief that all Americans should have access to Truth Social no matter what devices they use. We look forward to Google approving Truth Social at their earliest convenience.”

Trump Media and Technology Group made the app available for preorder on Android in early August. It is available on Apple’s App Store. Google’s YouTube has suspended Trump’s channel. Android users can still access Truth Social through the platform’s website.

The restriction is one of several obstacles faced by the former president’s app. Truth Social was created as a “free-speech” alternative to Twitter, after Trump was banned from the platform for his tweets relating to the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. Hundreds of the president’s supporters stormed the building that day to try to block Congress from confirming Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 presidential election.

Trump, who had about 88 million followers on Twitter, has about 4 million followers on Truth Social, where he continues to push false claims about the election. He is facing a criminal investigation over secret government records he took with him to his Mar-a-Lago home in Florida and is considering another run for the White House.

Trump Media was set to go public through a merger with Digital World Acquisition Corporation, a special-purpose acquisition company. The deadline is Sept. 8, although DWAC is pushing for a delay of up to a year. DWAC warned shareholders that a decline in the former president’s popularity could hurt the app and that, without a delay, the acquisition company may have to liquidate.

DWAC scheduled a shareholder meeting for Sept. 6, two days before the current merger deadline. Shares of the company were down more than 2% Tuesday at $24.65, far from their peak of about $97 in March.
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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

Postby admin » Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:57 am

Bill Barr slams Donald Trump for “jerking around” the US government over classified documents: It may have not been the assessment the Fox News presenters were expecting, but the former Trump employee had little doubt over culpability.
by Calum Roche
en.as.com
Update: September 2nd, 2022 14:06 EDT

On Friday we listened to an interview on Fox News of the former US attorney general, Bill Barr, and he left us in no uncertain terms where he feels the blame lies on the case against Donald Trump of removing documents that belonged to the US government.

What Barr said about Trump raid

Justin Baragona from the Daily Beast did a great job of summarising the interview for the masses, many of his Twitter followers very likely avoiding the right-leaning news channel. And via a selection of video clips you get the two sides of the interview: firstly, a man who knows how these things work explaining the wrongdoing and likely strong evidence now with the Department of Justice, and secondly, the surprise of the presenters at just how blunt he was.

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Bill Barr to Fox News: "Well, I think the whole idea of a special master is a bit of a red herring... at this stage, since they have already gone through the documents, I think it’s a waste of time."

11:13 AM · Sep 2, 2022
Read the full conversation on Twitter


“Well, I think the whole idea of a special master is a bit of a red herring... at this stage, since they have already gone through the documents, I think it’s a waste of time,” Barr responded to the opening question. He then went on to clarify what he meant by this.

Such recklessness, it’s almost worse than taking the documents.
-- Bill Barr on Trump potentially declassifying


Fox News anchor John Roberts then asked, “Is there any legitimate reason for those materials to be in the former president’s possession?” To which Barr was candid. “No. I can’t think of a legitimate reason why they should have been,” he rebuffed.

“If in fact he sort of stood over scores of boxes, not really knowing what was in them and said I hereby declassify everything in here, that would be such an abuse,” Barr continued. “...and that shows such recklessness it’s almost worse than taking the documents.”

When asked whether the FBI could have taken a more measured approach, and not raiding Trump’s property while he was gone, the answer was also pretty damning.

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Bill Barr: "If in fact he sort of stood over scores of boxes, not really knowing what was in them and said I hereby declassify everything in here, that would be such an abuse and -- that shows such recklessness it’s almost worse than taking the documents."

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Bill Barr: "I think the driver on this from the beginning was loads of classified information sitting in Mar-a-Lago. People say this was unprecedented, well it’s also unprecedented for a president to take all this classified information and put them in a country club, ok!"

11:29 AM · Sep 2, 2022


“I think the driver on this from the beginning was loads of classified information sitting in Mar-a-Lago,” Barr said. “People say this was unprecedented, well it’s also unprecedented for a president to take all this classified information and put them in a country club, ok!”

Barr continued to add to the wrong doing, explaining that the government had already waited a long time to get these documents back, gone through the appropriate channels, and that “the facts are starting to show they were being jerked around.”

Let’s see if the former president has anything to say about the interview.

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William Barr, on Fox, says there's no legitimate reason for classified docs to be at Mar-a-Lago and doubts Trump declassified
by Sonnet Swire
CNN
Updated 10:19 PM ET, Fri September 2, 2022

(CNN) Former Attorney General William Barr appeared on Fox News on Friday to say there is no "legitimate reason" for classified documents to have been at Mar-a-Lago and cast doubt in the idea that they had somehow been declassified.

"No. I can't think of a legitimate reason why they should have been -- could be taken out of government, away from the government if they are classified," Barr said of the documents found at former President Donald Trump's Florida resort.

"I, frankly, am skeptical of the claim that [Trump] declassified everything," Barr added.

"Because frankly, I think it's highly improbable, and second, if in fact he sort of stood over scores of boxes, not really knowing what was in them and said 'I hereby declassify everything in here,' that would be such an abuse and that shows such recklessness, it's almost worse than taking the documents," he said.

Barr also rejected criticism that the FBI search was in the wrong because it was "unprecedented."

"Let me just say, I think the driver on this from the beginning was loads of classified information sitting in Mar-a-Lago. People say this [raid] was unprecedented -- well, it's also unprecedented for a president to take all this classified information and put them in a country club, okay," Barr said.

"And how long is the government going to try to get that back? They jawboned for a year, they were deceived on the voluntary actions taken, they went and got a subpoena, they were deceived on that they feel, and the facts are starting to show that they were being jerked around," he added. "And so how long, you know, how long do they wait?"

Asked about his stance on Trump's request for a special master to review documents pertaining to the FBI raid at Mar-a-Lago, Barr called the idea a "red herring" and "waste of time."

"Well, I think the whole idea of a special master is a bit of a red herring," Barr said, adding, "at this stage, since they have already gone through the documents, I think it's a waste of time."

Barr said there's a "legitimate concern" about protecting documents that could be related to Trump's private lawyer communications, but it does not "appear to be much of it," and noted he's "not sure you need a special master to identify it."

"What people are missing is that all the other documents taken, even if they claim to be executive privilege, either belong to the government because they are government records -- even if they are classified, even if they are subject to executive privilege -- they still belong to the government and go to the Archives," he added.

Barr doubled down on the comments in a phone interview Friday with The New York Times, which reported he laughed when asked what he thought of Trump's argument for needing a special master in the case and said that he doesn't think one "is called for."

As more information is revealed, Barr said, "the actions of the department look more understandable."

"It appears that there's been a lot of jerking around of the government," he told the Times. "I'm not sure the department could have gotten it back without taking action."


This story has been updated with additional details.
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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

Postby admin » Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:08 am

F.B.I. Found 48 Empty Folders That Had Contained Classified Documents at Trump’s Home: A detailed inventory of items seized in the F.B.I.’s search of Mar-a-Lago raised the question of whether the government had fully recovered the documents or any remained missing.
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WASHINGTON — The F.B.I.’s search of former President Donald J. Trump’s Florida club and residence last month turned up 48 empty folders marked as containing classified information, a newly disclosed court filing shows, raising the question of whether the government had fully recovered the documents or any remain missing.

The filing, a detailed list of items retrieved in the search, was unsealed on Friday as part of the court fight over whether to appoint an independent arbiter to review the materials taken by federal agents when they descended on Mr. Trump’s estate, Mar-a-Lago, on Aug. 8.

Along with the empty folders with classified markings, the F.B.I. discovered 40 more empty folders that said they contained sensitive documents the user should “return to staff secretary/military aide,” according to the inventory. It also said that agents found seven documents marked as “top secret” in Mr. Trump’s office and 11 more in a storage room.

The list and an accompanying court filing from the Justice Department did not say whether all the contents of the folders had been recovered. But the filing noted that the inquiry into Mr. Trump’s handling of the documents remained “an active criminal investigation.”

The inventory also sheds further light on how documents marked as classified were stored haphazardly, mixed with everyday items.

Among the items found in one box: 30 news clippings dated from 2008 to 2019, three articles of clothing or “gift items,” one book, 11 government documents marked as confidential, 21 marked as secret and 255 government documents or photographs with no classification markings.

The list suggests the files Mr. Trump took to his Florida home were stored in a slapdash manner and appeared to underline concerns that he had not followed rules for protecting national security secrets.

It also offered the clearest indication yet that promises by Mr. Trump’s team that all sensitive records had been returned were untrue.

The inventory listed seven batches of materials taken by the F.B.I. from Mr. Trump’s personal office at Mar-a-Lago that contained government-owned documents and photographs, some marked with classification levels up to “top secret” and some that were not marked as classified. The list also included batches of government records that had been in 26 boxes or containers in a storage room at the compound.

In all, the list said, the F.B.I. retrieved 18 documents marked as top secret, 54 marked as secret, 31 marked as confidential, and 11,179 government documents or photographs without classification markings.

A federal judge in Florida, Aileen M. Cannon, ordered the inventory list to be released during a hearing on Thursday to determine whether to appoint an outside expert known as a special master to review the government records for any that could be privileged. Judge Cannon said that she would issue a written decision on the matter “in due course.”

Mr. Trump appeared to acknowledge on social media this week that he knew that much of this material was at his estate, complaining about a photograph that the Justice Department released on Tuesday night cataloging some of the evidence that had been recovered.

The photograph showed several folders with “top secret” markings and some files with classification markings visible. All the material was arrayed on a carpet near a placard labeled “2A,” presumably to document what was in a box of that number before the F.B.I. removed it from Mar-a-Lago.

A shorter inventory, released earlier, said Box 2A contained materials found in Mr. Trump’s personal office. In a social media post, the former president declared that the folders had been kept in “cartons” rather than “sloppily” left on the floor, suggesting that he had been aware of the presence of the materials.

In May, after extended negotiations between the National Archives and Mr. Trump’s lawyers failed to result in the return of any documents from Mar-a-Lago, the Justice Department issued a grand jury subpoena for all materials marked as classified that remained there. In early June, two lawyers for Mr. Trump turned over some of the records while telling investigators that no others remained.

In the filing on Friday, prosecutors noted that the Justice Department’s review of the materials seized in August was only “a single investigative step” in an “active criminal investigation.”

“The investigative team will continue to use and evaluate the seized materials as it takes further investigative steps, such as through additional witness interviews and grand jury practice,” the filing said.

The government released a less detailed inventory of the seized items three weeks ago, at the same time it unsealed the warrant used to search Mar-a-Lago. And in a court filing this week, the Justice Department revealed that the F.B.I. had found 13 boxes or containers with documents marked as classified, amounting to “over 100 unique documents with classification markings” at the estate.

Shortly after the detailed inventory was unsealed, a spokesman for Mr. Trump, Taylor Budowich, denounced the government on Twitter.

“The new ‘detailed’ inventory list only further proves that this unprecedented and unnecessary raid of President Trump’s home was not some surgical, confined search and retrieval that the Biden administration claims, it was a SMASH AND GRAB,” he wrote.

The expanded inventory did not disclose the specific types of classification markings that were on the documents or give any hints about whether they contained information that could reveal confidential human sources or foreign intelligence surveillance abilities.

By contrast, a redacted version of the affidavit for the search warrant application listed specific classification markings that had been found on documents in 15 boxes of government files that the National Archives removed from Mar-a-Lago in January.

The discovery of files in the trove marked as classified led the archives to make a criminal referral to the Justice Department, prompting what initially began as an investigation into how classified documents were taken to Mar-a-Lago.

That inquiry expanded after the Justice Department retrieved additional documents marked as classified from Mar-a-Lago on June 3 in response to a subpoena. At that time, two lawyers for Mr. Trump told investigators that was all that remained.

The F.B.I., which obtained surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago and interviewed multiple witnesses, acquired what it said was evidence that additional classified documents were at the property and that the government’s efforts to retrieve them had been obstructed.

In obtaining a search warrant, the bureau described the possibility of three crimes as the basis of its investigation: the unauthorized retention of national security secrets, obstruction and concealing or destroying government documents. None require a document to have been deemed classified, despite Mr. Trump’s repeated and unproven claims that he had declassified everything he took from the Oval Office.

At the hearing on Thursday, the Justice Department said it had performed its own review and set aside more than 500 pages of records that could be protected by attorney-client privilege.

But lawyers for the department fiercely contested Mr. Trump’s request for a review of the materials based on executive privilege, which protects confidential executive branch communications from disclosure.

The lawyers argued that executive privilege could not be used by a former president to keep part of the executive branch, like the department, from reviewing government files as part of its official responsibilities.

Judge Cannon was not entirely persuaded by that argument and left open the possibility that she would grant Mr. Trump a special master to conduct a wide-ranging review, encompassing both attorney-client and executive privilege.

Charlie Savage is a Washington-based national security and legal policy correspondent. A recipient of the Pulitzer Prize, he previously worked at The Boston Globe and The Miami Herald. His most recent book is “Power Wars: The Relentless Rise of Presidential Authority and Secrecy.” @charlie_savage • Facebook
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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

Postby admin » Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:33 am

With Top Secret documents found at, & classified documents missing from, Mar-a-Lago, DOJ must act
by Glenn Kirschner
Sep 3, 2022



By stealing classified documents from the White House and unlawfully concealing them at Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump has potentially compromised our national security in so many ways. Now, US intelligence officials and agencies are scrambling to determine how much damage Trump may have done. Of course, there is one person who knows precisely who had access to the classified documents that were at Mar-a-Lago . . . Donald Trump.

If any other person on the planet had committed the offenses Trump committed, that person would have been arrested, interrogated and compelled to divulge information that could mitigate the damage to our national security. However, our law enforcement and intelligence communities continue to deal with Trump with kid gloves.

Here is how and why the Department of Justice must now act to hold Donald Trump accountable and protect our national security.

Transcript

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so donald trump has done real damage to
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our national security and now he sits
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back in his second rate resort in
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florida and refuses to do anything
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to help the government mitigate that
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damage
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and
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we
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let him
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let's talk about that
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because justice
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matters
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[Music]
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[Music]
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hey all glenn kirschner here
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so donald trump has done untold damage
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to our national security and now he's
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content to just
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sit back and watch burn
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the fire he set
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here's the new reporting from the new
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york times
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headline fbi found 48 empty folders that
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had contained classified documents at
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trump's home
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and that article begins
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the fbi's search of former president
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donald j trump's florida club and
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residents last month
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turned up 48 empty folders marked as
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containing classified information a
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newly disclosed court filing shows
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raising the question of whether the
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government had fully recovered the
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documents or any remain missing
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along with the empty folders with
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classified markings the fbi discovered
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40 more empty folders that said they
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contained sensitive documents the user
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should return to staff secretary slash
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military aid
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according to the inventory
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it also said that agents found seven
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documents marked as top secret in mr
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trump's office
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and eleven more in a storage room
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and now our intelligence officers and
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agencies are scrambling
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trying to assess how much damage donald
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trump has done
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to our national security
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we see headline after headline like
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this from nbc intel officials will
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assess risk to national security from
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documents found at trump's mar-a-lago
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and this from npr materials taken from
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mar-a-lago will be assessed for possible
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national security risks
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so now the intel community is working
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overtime
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trying to figure out who may now know
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about some of our nation's most closely
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held national security secrets
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they're trying to figure out things like
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with respect to the top secret documents
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donald trump stole from the white house
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and unlawfully concealed at mar-a-lago
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who did donald trump show these
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documents to
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who did donald trump let take pictures
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of these documents who did donald trump
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let make copies of these documents
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regarding the missing classified
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documents
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who did donald trump give them to
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or who did donald trump
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sell them to
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you know what friends
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there is somebody who knows the answer
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to all of these questions
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donald trump
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and yet
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our law enforcement and intelligence
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communities continue to wear kid gloves
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seemingly
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unwilling to confront donald trump
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he is sitting there
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with all of this information about how
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he compromised our national security
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and nobody's even asking him
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you know what our federal government
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should be doing in my estimation
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first they should demand a sit down with
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donald trump in a very public way
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mr former president we need you to come
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in and tell us
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who
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you may have shown these documents to
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who had access to them
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who did you give them to with respect to
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all of the empty folders both classified
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and military
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because you know
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former president trump
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that all of this may very well have
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compromised our national security
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you may be putting assets in other
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countries in danger and you may be
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endangering us here at home
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we need to sit down with you and you
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need to download all of this information
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might that be a futile exercise you
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think there's any chance donald trump is
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going to come in voluntarily and help us
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mitigate the damage to our national
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security the damage he did maybe not
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let him make that decision and let him
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live with the consequences of it but for
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gosh sakes ask him to sit down and
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provide answers to these questions
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you know to try to
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protect
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our national security
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the next step incrementally is to
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subpoena him for this information yes
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there are lots of sticky legal issues
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surrounding subpoenaing not a former
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president
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but a target of a criminal investigation
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which he undoubtedly is
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that presents challenges it raises the
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possible prospect of immunity all of
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that we will leave for another day but
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let's get the ball rolling
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on at least some effort to extract this
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information from donald trump
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subpoena him
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if he defies the subpoena lock him up
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for contempt
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if he complies with the subpoena and
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pleads his fifth amendment right against
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self-incrimination
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which one he has and two any competent
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lawyer would advise him
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to do invoke his fifth amendment
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privilege against self-incrimination
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again let him live with the consequences
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of that the consequences
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that may very well include
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a continued danger to our national
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security and to human assets
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but let's go to option number three
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because this frankly is the leading
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candidate in my book
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donald trump has committed multiple
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crimes against the united states
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against we the people
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the search warrant that the judge
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authorized
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that gave the fbi the ability to go to
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mar-a-lago search mar-a-lago for
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evidence of crime
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and
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seize the evidence of crime they found
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at mar-a-lago including in donald
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trump's office including in donald
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trump's desk the warrant that the judge
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authorized
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found probable cause to believe donald
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trump committed three crimes
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a documents crime an obstruction of
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justice crime and a crime under the
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espionage act
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it found probable cause to believe those
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three crimes had been committed
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and that there would be evidence of
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those crimes located on the property of
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mar-a-lago
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if donald trump was any other human
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being on the planet after what they
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found
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even just in his office
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he would have been promptly arrested
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he would have been mirandized yes
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miranda is still a thing
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even after that
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poor supreme court decision that cut
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back on a suspect's right to bring a
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civil rights case against police
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officers for violating his or her
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miranda rights miranda is still a thing
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arrest donald trump mirandize him
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if he waves his miranda rights you
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interrogate him
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long and hard day and night
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lawfully ethically
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but to extract from him all of the
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information that can now help protect
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our national security and mitigate
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the damage donald trump has done to our
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national security and the fact
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that our federal government will not
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even remove the kid gloves
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the fact that they will let donald trump
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retain
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all of the information he has
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about how he damaged our national
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security rather than trying to lawfully
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extract it from him
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is just flat out wrong
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so yes instead of letting donald trump
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continue to play golf
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hold
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hate rallies
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spew lies propaganda disinformation
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into the public square
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lying to his supporters continuing to
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recruit a new batch of insurrectionists
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instead of letting him attend dinner
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parties and fundraisers
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he should be held accountable right now
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for his crimes
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we should take the kid gloves off we
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should go after him
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aggressively but lawfully and ethically
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to extract from him the information he
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has
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about how he's damaged our national
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security
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and how we can go about mitigating that
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damage
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failing to do those things
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and leaving donald trump out there
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to continue to damage our nation and our
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national security
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in my opinion is a grave mistake
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you know that does not represent
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fighting the monster it represents
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feeding the monster
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and we have been feeding the monster
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that is donald trump
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for so long and it has brought us to
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this moment in time
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it's time for accountability
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because justice
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matters
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it matters
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friends as always please stay safe
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please stay tuned and i look forward to
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talking with you all again
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tomorrow
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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

Postby admin » Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:46 pm

GOP Escalates Violent Rhetoric As Investigation Into Trump Advances
by Jonathan Capehart
MSNBC
Sep 4, 2022



Following Donald Trump's first rally since the Mar-a-Lago search, Rep. David Cicilline, Ruth Ben-Ghat, Miles Taylor and Jonathan Capehart discuss the escalating violent rhetoric of Donald Trump and MAGA Republicans.

Transcript

0:01
[JONATHAN CAPEHART] I WANT YOU ALL TO LISTEN TO
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THIS CLIP FROM LAST NIGHT'S
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TRUMP RALLY.
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>> [DONALD TRUMP] JOE BIDEN CAME TO
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PHILADELPHIA PENNSYLVANIA, TO
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GIVE THE MOST VICIOUS, HATEFUL,
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AND DIVISIVE SPEECH EVER
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DELIVERED BY AN AMERICAN
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PRESIDENT,
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VILIFYING 75 MILLION CITIZENS --
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PLUS ANOTHER PROBABLY 75 TO 150,
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IF WE WANT TO BE ACCURATE ABOUT
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IT --
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AS THREATS TO DEMOCRACY AND AS
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ENEMIES OF THE STATE. YOU ARE
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ALL ENEMIES OF THE STATE.
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HE'S AN ENEMY OF THE STATE, IF
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YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH --
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>> [JONATHAN CAPEHART] CONGRESSMAN CICILLINE, I'M GOING
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TO START WITH YOU.
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I WANT YOU ALL TO RESPOND TO
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THAT.
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BUT HOW DOES THIS NOT CREATE A
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DOMESTIC NATIONAL SECURITY
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CRISIS?
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>> [REP. DAVID CICILLINE, (D) RHODE ISLAND] WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. IT'S GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.
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LOOK -- THIS IS DEADLY SERIOUS.
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PRESIDENT BIDEN'S SPEECH WAS
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ESSENTIAL. HE WAS SIMPLY
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ALERTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO
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THE THREAT TO AMERICAN
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DEMOCRACY THAT THIS ULTRA MAGA
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TRUMPIST MOVEMENT POSES.
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AND DONALD TRUMP DOES WHAT HE
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ALWAYS DOES.
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HE PROJECTS HIS OWN BEHAVIOR ON
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HIS ADVERSARIES, AND SUGGESTS THAT
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SOMEHOW, THIS IS A THREAT TO
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HIS SUPPORTERS.
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THE PRESIDENT WAS VERY CLEAR IN
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HIS SPEECH DEFENDING
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DEMOCRACY. HE DID IT IN A VERY
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IMPORTANT PLACE THAT REALLY SYMBOLIZES
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THE CREATION OF OUR GREAT DEMOCRATIC
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REPUBLIC.
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AND THIS IS A SERIOUS THREAT. IT'S WHAT I WRITE ABOUT
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IN MY BOOK. WE ARE FACING AN
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EMERGENCY HERE.
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AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT
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THE PRESIDENT MAKE IT CLEAR THAT
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THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GOING TO
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ELECT PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTED TO
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STANDING FOR OUR DEMOCRACY, STANDING UP FOR THE RULE OF
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LAW, AND STANDING AGAINST THIS
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IDEOLOGY WHICH IS
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ANTI-DEMOCRATIC, WHICH IS
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AUTHORITARIAN, WHICH IS
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CONTRARY TO AMERICAN VALUES.
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AS THE PRESIDENT SAID, YOU CAN'T BE PRO
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INSURRECTION, PRO OVERTHROWING
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THE GOVERNMENT, AND
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PRO-AMERICAN AT THE SAME TIME.
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IT WAS AN EXCELLENT SPEECH. IT
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NEEDED TO BE SAID.
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AND I HOPE THAT DEMOCRATS WILL CONTINUE
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TO MAKE THIS POINT ALL THROUGHOUT THE
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MIDTERM ELECTION.
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>> [JONATHAN CAPEHART] AND MILES, YOU USED TO BE IN THE
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ADMINISTRATION. AND, YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO
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DONALD TRUMP'S WORDS THERE IN
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THAT CLIP -- IT'S A BIT OF THE
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GREATEST HITS -- BUT
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THE THING THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME
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THAT I FOUND SO CONCERNING IS
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THAT HE DIRECTLY CALLED THE
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SITTING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
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STATES, QUOTE, "AN ENEMY OF THE STATE"
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YOUR REACTION?
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>> [MILES TAYLOR, FORMER DHS CHIEF OF STAFF] YEAH, LOOK. I THINK THAT IF PEOPLE
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WANT TO DISMISS JOE BIDEN
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BECAUSE THEY THINK HE IS BEING
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POLITICAL -- I DON'T AGREE WITH
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THAT --
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OKAY, GO AHEAD AND DISMISS
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PRESIDENT BIDEN. BUT DON'T
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DISMISS THE PEOPLE WHO SERVED
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AROUND DONALD TRUMP, AND HAVE
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WARNED THAT THE MAN HAS
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AUTHORITARIAN TENDENCIES.
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NOT JUST ME, ALYSSA FARAH, HIS
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PRESS SECRETARY, STEPHANIE
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GRISHAM, FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER JOHN BOLTON, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE JIM
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MATTIS, WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF
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STAFF JOHN KELLY. I COULD GO ON
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AND ON.
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THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT SERVED
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AROUND DONALD TRUMP,
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SAW HIM IN THE MOMENTS
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THAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO RISE TO
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THE OCCASION, AND INSTEAD WERE
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TERRIFIED BY WHAT THEY SAW.
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THEY BELIEVE -- AND I BELIEVE --
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THAT THIS MAN, IF GIVEN A
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SECOND SHOT, REALLY WOULD BRING
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A SEMI AUTHORITARIAN
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PERSPECTIVE INTO THE WHITE
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HOUSE.
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I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS JARRING
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AT ALL THAT JOE BIDEN SAID
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THAT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
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IS A SEMI FASCIST THREAT.
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BY DEFINITION THAT IS WHAT WE
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ARE TALKING ABOUT. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE
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DAYS AGO WE SAW DONALD TRUMP
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SAY PUBLICLY THAT HE SHOULD BE
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REINSTALLED INTO THE
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PRESIDENCY.
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RIGHT? TO RERUN THE
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ELECTION, OR JUST TO PUT HIM BACK INTO THE WHITE HOUSE.
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THAT IS, BY DEFINITION,
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DESPOTISM.
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THAT IS TYRANNY.
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THAT IS NOT WHAT THE AMERICAN
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REPUBLIC IS ALL ABOUT.
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SO, JOE BIDEN WAS VERY MUCH ON
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POINT IN DESCRIBING THIS. AND I THINK, FROM A
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NATIONAL SECURITY PERSPECTIVE, JONATHAN,
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WHAT WORRIES ME IS
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THAT TRUMP'S RHETORIC HAS GONE
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MAINSTREAM.
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YEARS AGO I SAID, BEFORE HIS
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REELECTION, THAT HE WAS ALREADY
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TALKING ABOUT QUOTE "CIVIL WARS" AND
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"COUPS" BEING UNDERWAY.
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WELL NOW WE HAVE GOT 65% OF SOUTHERN
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REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THEIR
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STATE SHOULD SECEDE FROM THE
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UNION. 50% OF STRONG REPUBLICANS
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SAY A CIVIL WAR IS LIKELY WITHIN THE
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NEXT TEN YEARS.
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THIS HAS GONE MAINSTREAM. AND IT
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IS THE BIGGEST THREAT TO
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NATIONAL SECURITY I'VE SEEN IN
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MY CAREER.
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I'VE DEALT WITH ISIS, I'VE DEALT WITH RUSSIA, CHINA --
THIS ANTI-DEMOCRACY MOVEMENT
WITHIN MAGA IS THE BIGGEST THREAT
WE'VE SEEN TO OUR COUNTRY IN A GENERATION.
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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

Postby admin » Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:27 am

Part 1 of 2

Full text of former President Donald Trump's Pennsylvania speech
by Donald Trump
9/3/22

Well thank you very much and hello, Pennsylvania. Hi.

I'm thrilled to be back in this incredible Commonwealth with the thousands of proud hardworking American patriots that I have gotten to know so well.

Two months from now, the people of Pennsylvania going to fire the radical left Democrats and you are going to elect, Doug Mastriano is your next governor.

You're going to send my friend Oz, Oz is a great guy, to the U.S. Senate. you're going to elect an amazing slate of true America First Republicans to Congress. We are going to end the Nancy Pelosi political career, the Biden political career.

Our country is going to hell.

This election is a referendum on skyrocketing inflation, ramping crime, soaring murders, crushing gas prices, millions and millions of illegal aliens pouring across our border, race and gender indoctrination, converting our schools and above all this election is a referendum on the corruption and extremism of Joe Biden and the radical Democrat party.

If you want to stop this destruction of America, you must vote Republican you gotta get out

As you know this week Joe Biden came to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to give the most vicious, hateful and divisive speech ever delivered by an American president, vilifying 75 million citizens, plus another probably 75 to 150.

If we want to be accurate about it, As threats to democracy and as enemies of the state, you're all enemies of the state. He's an enemy of the state, you know that? The enemy of the state is him and the group that control him, which is circling around him, 'Do this. do that Joe, you're going to do this Joe."

Right. I think Philadelphia was a great choice to make this speech of hatred and anger. His speech was hatred and anger. By the way, the next morning he forgot what he said, you saw that.

I do like the red lighting behind him, like the devil.

But Philadelphia was a great choice because the city is being devastated under Democrat rules. Devastated. He could tell you, we love Pennsylvania. I went to school in Philadelphia, what's happening to Philadelphia?

Fourteen people were shot last weekend in Philadelphia, 14, and the fake news will—God, that's a lot of fake news lately. A lot of fake news.

Well, they'll go out and check the facts for people were killed last weekend. At one point last month, seven people were shot in the span of just 71 minutes, in Philadelphia this year. Philadelphia has already seen more than 1,400 people shot including numerous beautiful little children.

Last year, the city set an all time murder record with 560 homicides, and it's on track to shatter that record. Again in 2022 numbers that nobody's ever seen other than some other Democrat-run cities. Armed robberies in Philadelphia are up 62 percent. Doug, you have to take care of this. You have to take care of it, and we'll send you the goods, I'll send him the goods. You know what the goods are: lots of police officers. That's what the goods are.

Retail theft is up 59 percent from last year.

There have been more than 750 carjackings this year. Anybody have a nice car, because you're not gonna have it long. More than triple the average for 2010 to 2019. And it's heading way up heading up in other cities that are run by Democrats also.

Instead of trying to demonize half of the population, Biden and congressional Democrats should focus on stopping the killing and the bloodshed in Philadelphia and every other Democrat-run city in America where record death and destruction is taking place every single day.

Biden thinks making America great again is bad for our country. Do you believe it? That was in his—Biden says "We got to stop MAGA." That's when I defined it, because I don't think he knows what it meant. It means "make America great again." We have to stop it. Stop MAGA. Stop making America great again.

He thinks making America great again is a threat to our country. No, making America great again is great for our country.

There's only one party that's waging war in American democracy by censoring free speech, criminalizing dissent. You see that happening? Disarming law-abiding citizens, issuing lawless mandates and unconstitutional orders, imprisoning political protesters. That's what they're doing, rigging elections. weaponizing the Justice Department and the FBI like never ever before. And raiding and breaking into the homes of their political opponents. I wonder who that could be.

Republicans in the MAGA movement are not the ones trying to undermine our democracy. We are the ones trying to save our democracy very simple. The danger to democracy comes from the radical left, not from the right. Not from the right.

This November, we're going to stand up to this rising tyranny of sickness, lawlessness And death. And we are going to take back our country. We're going to take it.

There could be no more vivid example of the very real threats from American freedom. And just a few weeks ago, you saw when we witnessed one of the most shocking abuses of power by any administration in American history, the shameful raid and breaking into my home Mar-a-Lago was a travesty of justice.

That made a mockery of America's laws, traditions and principles. Before the entire world
the entire world was watching and they're shocked. They're shocked. South American countries, numerous of them, their leaders said could you imagine if that was ever done in our country? What the United States would be saying about us. The Biden administration invaded the home of their chief political opponent who is absolutely destroying him and everyone else in the polls. I hate to say it.

Even including the Republicans, but we love the Republicans, on a phony pretext getting permission from a highly political magistrate who they hand-picked late in the evening, just days before the break-in. And trampled upon my rights and civil liberties as if our country, that we love so much. We're a third world nation. We're like a third world nation.

They rifled through the First Lady's closet drawers and everything else, and even did a deep and ugly search of the room of my 16-year-old son, leaving everything they touched in far different conditions than it was when they started. Can you believe it?

The FBI and the Justice Department have become vicious monsters. controlled by radical left scoundrels lawyers and the media who tell them what to do—you people right there—and when to do it.

They're trying to silence me and more importantly, they are trying to silence you. But we will not be silenced, right. We will never stop speaking the truth. We have no choice because we're not going to have a country love. The evil and malice of this demented persecution of you and me should be obvious to all entities.

Even media companies that are pretty far left have come out and said we can't believe this is happening in the USA. We are being assaulted by the same groups, the FBI and DOJ, that just a few years ago declared no reasonable prosecutor would charge Crooked Hillary Clinton after she set up a secret illegal server to hide her family's pay-for-play schemes. Crammed full of classified information, allowed it to be plundered by foreign hackers. You know that happened? And then deleted 30,000 emails, think of that, 30,000 emails, and what else did she do? Bomb with a hammer, smashed her phone systems to smithereens after receiving the highest level of subpoena from the U.S. Congress. Think of that?

Thank you. That yet, now, the same people, the exact same people are sending the FBI storming through the home of their number one political rival. It's a disgrace, a disgrace, like possibly never before. Our country has never seen anything like it. They talked about documents not being properly stored. Yet they go in and take documents, dump them on the floor, stage a photoshoot, and pretend that I had done it like I had put them all over the floor.

They took that back. After a lot of product then they put out for public consumption, a picture which is seen all over the world. this is what they do. it's called disinformation. These are very dishonest, sick people. Very dishonest people.

Americans are sick of the lies sick of the hoaxes and scams, and above all sick of the hypocrisy.
But our opponents have badly miscalculated. This egregious abuse of the law is going to produce a backlash the likes of which nobody has ever seen before.

Before our very eyes, our beloved country is being taken over by the very people who turned democracies into dictatorships and into ultimately, ruination. They think they can divide us but they can't. Can't divide us.

The MAGA movement is the greatest in the history of our country. And maybe in the history of the world, maybe in the history of the world.

In any event, we have no choice. We are trying to save our country because such bad things are happening to our beautiful, beloved America. We will make America great again. I will never turn my back on you.

And you will never turn your back on me because we love our nation. And we will save our nation from people who are trying to destroy it. It was not just my home that was raidrd last month. It was the hopes and dreams of every citizen who I've been fighting for since the moment I came down the golden escalator in 2015, wanting to represent the people. Wanting to stop the massive corruption in our country and determined to finally in this world, put America first. I want to put America first and we did.

We did.

There's never been a period of time, both before COVID—or the China virus as we say—and after COVID. From that moment on, I became the enemy of the Washington swamp for six years. The radical Democrat party, the RINOs, the media and the Deep State have tried relentlessly to stop me and you.

First they fabricated the Russia Russia Russia scam you so it was a total fabrication.
Now they all admit it. Then we had impeachment hoax number one, impeachment hoax number two, and now the same exact people at Justice and the FBI, the same people along with outside scum, are at it again with the horrific raid of my home.

They just go on and on.
And they have to be stopped. We have to spend time on our country, not on defending ourselves against scams.

Think about it, about Russia and the Muller—no collusion, right? Came in no collusion. That was your decision after two and a half years, no collusion. I could have told them that after the first hour. And they could have said that because they had the laptop from hell, which had everything, so they knew immediately.

But it went on—but think of this, you know what, I tell this story on occasion very seldom because it's too sad to tell. But I tell this story because it's very important. Russia Russia Russia was a hoax. It was developed by Hillary Clinton and a group of people. Small group around the kitchen table, as a way of explaining why she lost an election that a lot of people thought she would win because the Democrats have an advantage in elections. Because of a lot of things, aside from the fact they cheat like hell.

So when they lost, Hillary Clinton and her people, guys like Adam "Shifty" Schiff, watermelon head. Watermelon Head, he's a watermelon head, but no dummy.

Think of this, think how bad they are, think how evil they are. We're all fathers and your mothers and your children are great people, and all of the people are represented here—think how bad they are. They make up a story that's false. It's now been admitted to be false. The FBI is the last one to tell us that. But it's now admitted even in the newspapers, even by the people back there, they will not fight it. They make up now think of this or think of this.

So they make up a story about Russia. Let's say, you know, I was tougher on Russia than any president before. I'm the one that stopped Nord Stream II, the pipeline. I'm the one that did the big sanctions.

And I guarantee you one thing, Putin was not going into Ukraine. I guarantee you that. I guarantee you, nobody was tougher than me, but I also got along with them. That's a good thing. You know, getting along with other countries. It's a good thing. Not a bad thing, but think of it. So they make up a story, Russia, Russia. Russia. It was made up so that when they launched, they could say it was Russia.

I'm saying, what the hell did Russia have to deal with? It was Russia. Okay, so Adam Schiff knows it's a fake story. He made it up with other people. They know it's a fake and I see Adam Schiff go solemnly to the microphones in the Capitol building, And stand. They're so sad and say, "Donald Trump Jr. will be going to prison because of what he did with Russia." Now think of it, he knows the story is a scam. He knows the story's a fake.

And he wants my son, who's a good kid, he wants my son to go to prison over something that they made up, that they know is a phony story, and has now been, as they say, fully debunked.

In other words, it was a total lie,
and he's standing before microphones with many of those people standing there and they can't get enough, saying that my son is going to prison. And I then call my son I say, "Donnie, you okay, what's going on? What's going on?"

Think of this. If you're a parent, think of it. My son's going to prison on something that they made, which is a total hoax. These are bad people. They're trying to destroy our country, and we can't let it go on. Any longer because we have too much work to do.

Whether through activist Attorney Generals, the state attorney generals. If I fly over a state, they send me before a grand jury. "Trump is up there. Let's see what can we do with the grand jury?"

I've been going through this for six years now. Local Democrats and county prosecutors, congressional committees or federal agencies, the radical Democrats are engaging in a desperate attempt to keep me from returning to the White House where they know I will clean this mess up again.

They want to stop us from completing our mission to bring back American values. Secure America's borders, millions and millions of people are pouring into our country. Nobody has any idea where they're from. Last month, 129 countries were represented. They're emptying their prisons into the United States of America.

They know we'll continue to fix America's trade deals. Continue to lower taxes. Nobody gave tax decreases like Trump, bigger than the Reagan cuts. And lower regulations created all of those jobs, defend and protect our police and our military. We have to protect our police. You know, our police want to protect us. They're stymied from doing it.

We have to protect our police.

No, we're going to reclaim our energy independence. We're going to save our Second Amendment which is under siege.

We'll build our manufacturing base, just like I was doing. In other words, they know that we're going to make America great again. You know, we had a different saying because after we did so well we were all set. And we had a statement remember Keep America Great. But after they destroyed it, I'd love to use it. But I must say there's nothing like MAGA.

I don't know. I don't know KAG. KAG wasn't the same. Keep America Great. The problem I had though wasn't the fact that KAG can't compete with MAGA, the real problem I had that.

We can't use the word Keep America Great because they've destroyed our country. So we can't keep it great because it's not great. Right now. Our country is a laughingstock. Our leaders are a laughingstock.

You know, we just sent another $13 billion to Ukraine, that gets us close to $80 billion now. Well, it angers me more for a different reason. It would have never happened before, Putin really wouldn't have done it. Said "Vladimir, you're not gonna do that, Vladimir."

He knew that. He knew it. He knew it. But he did it soon as the election was rigged and it was considered over. I don't know if it's ever going to end, if you look at what's going on, because more and more facts are coming out, like the FBI with Facebook the other day can you believe but you know what?



Our country, it would have been so inappropriate to say Keep America Great, because who the hell wants to keep our country the way it is right now? I don't know.

But together, we have easily beaten every single witch hunt in the past think of that—the time and the money and the effort it takes. And now we will likewise do that in the future if they continue their craziness, and if they don't stop they don't stop that's all they're good at is disinformation, they put out disinformation.

You know, when I heard about Russia was right after I came down that beautiful golden escalator.

First lady, I said "you'll be a great first lady." She has been a great first lady. Great first lady. They love our first lady.

But people would come up to me, this was right at the beginning. Right after the escalator ride, but people have shared, "you know anything about Russia?"

Young guys come up, beautiful, staffers, there a lot of them here right now and here all over the place. That just came up to me. You won Pennsylvania by a lot, sir. That's right. You're right about that. I think at nine o'clock in the evening, we went 950,000 votes up with 73 percent of the vote cast. All of a sudden, around 3:02 or something, the equipment closed down. It all closed down. And then you had that massive spike. Remember the spike that went to heaven and came back? It should have gone to hell and come back.

And all of a sudden we were tied and then all of a sudden, we lost by a whisper. A rigged election. But the people would come up, some of them are here, "Sir, sir. It's such an honor to meet you, sir. Sir. Can I ask you a question? You know, what is it? What do you think about Russia?"

No, not really, but I know probably less than you know. But I have a lot of common sense and I know how to defend our country and I'll end up being friendly with them and will do just fine.

Then a month later another one came up. "Hello, Uncle Sam. Look, send up Uncle Sam." Great people, great people.

And a month later, another young person came up. A little naive, and said, it was really, actually, was cute. He said, "Oh sir, it's such an honor to go for a couple of minutes." He said, "Sir, can I ask you one question has been bothering me." Yeah, what is it? "Do you, what do you think about Russia?"

And then again and again, then after about five or six times you're gonna think about Russia. When I looked at my people, my help people that are a little older. I said, "What the hell is going on with Russia?"

This is all I knew what was going on. It was a scam. And we took two and a half years to win. But all of that time and effort and money and the corruption and the people that were in charge of that scam are horrible, and they're the same people that we have now. They never leave. They never leave. And if we would have had an attorney general with courage, instead of somebody that was afraid to be impeached, so I don't want to be—we would have gotten to the bottom of the very quickly.

We've been waiting for Durham for a long time, Durham, please come in and give us your work, please. You're up, Durham. We gotta get Durham going here.

But this battle is not about me. This is a struggle for the very fate of our republic. Our movement is fighting against a corrupt group of unelected tyrants who believe they can wield absolute power over you, with the help of a willing and very corrupt media.

They think the deep state, not the citizens should be the true masters of this country.

On our watch, we will never let that happen. And we will never let it happen, even though we're going to be gone. We're going to set this country up so strong and so powerfully that we may not be here, at least some of the older ones—that I love you all, but we're going to have the country set up properly. Like it was before the COVID came in, before the China dust came in.

And even after we handed it off where we had a higher stock market, because we did it twice. We had a higher stock market on January 20 than we did—think of it—the so-called handoff. I hate to even use the term it's so ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. I have to use that term. But the handoff, we handed it off, the market was higher than it was just prior to COVID coming into our country. We did an incredible job, an incredible job.

But we have no choice in 2022 and 2024. We have to smash the grip of this vile and vindictive political class. We have to clean house in Washington, D.C. and we have to restore government for the people.

If we do not, our republic and, indeed, our country will be destroyed and we will never be able to do what is called a comeback. You won't be able to do it. It'll never come back again.

It's so fragile, you know, it's so fragile. You will never bring it back again. You remember in the campaign, I used to say if these people get in we're going to end up with Venezuela on steroids. I said it many many times. I never thought it was much of a possibility. But I never knew people could cheat like that. Not like last week. Weirdo. He's a weirdo.

Mark Zuckerberg came to the White House, kissed my ass all night.
"Sir, I'd love to have dinner, sir. I'd love to have dinner. I'd love to bring my lovely wife." All right, Mark, come on in. "Sir, you're number one on Facebook. I'd like to congratulate you." Thank you very much, Mark. I appreciate it.

Well, Mark Zuckerberg confessed that in 2020, the FBI went to Facebook and the media and gave them the false narratives that the Hunter Biden laptop from Hell was Russian disinformation, even though they knew that was not true. So they went in they said it was Russian disinformation, by the way. The guy that came in with that stuff just got fired. He perp-walked, he was perp-walked out of the FBI on Friday.

But that doesn't help us, and the election of 2020, that doesn't help us. They perp-walked him because of all the things he did. So many more than what we're even talking about. The FBI made it clear that they did not want the truth about the criminality and influence peddling of the Biden family coming out before the election, because that would hurt the chances of Joe Biden who virtually never left his basement winning the election.

You know, he came to Philadelphia, as you know, you know many people they had almost nobody showed up. And we have a lot of people. A lot of people, and we're not even talking about all the people outside that couldn't get in, because you have better real estate, right? We got a lot of people outside watching. I hope they're watching the big screens we put up outside.

You know this place? I think it holds 12,000 people. So we sold out in about 15 seconds and I said what are we going to do? For the people that can't get in? That's why a lot of times, I like fields because fields, you could just keep having them. In Alabama, we had 66,000 people. Figure this: Outside of Houston, Texas, we had 89,000 people show up.

But what the FBI did was corruption and election interference on a scale that we have never seen before in our country. According to pollsters, it made a 10 to 20 point difference, not even including all of the other totally determinative evidence of illegality that was found having to do with the 2020 presidential election scam, including ballot stuffing and not adhering to the laws, rules and regulations of state legislatures, which is totally illegal. They just did whatever they wanted to do. And frankly, Republicans locally that ran things in a lot of states—should be ashamed of themselves.

Should be ashamed of yourself. And a guy like Mitch McConnell, who allowed this stuff to happen, should be ashamed. You should be ashamed. The 2020 election was rigged, and now our country is being destroyed by people who got into office through cheating and through fraud.

Now watch, the cameras will all turn off as soon as I say that because they're not allowed to put the cameras. They'll all turn off. They don't want to hear that. They don't want to hear that.
You know why?

But Republican leadership just doesn't fight because in many cases, they are intimidated. They're afraid they're actually afraid, Republicans must get tougher and stronger and fast.

The way I'll tell you a guy that fought back that's why he's here. Today is your nominee. Doug Mastriano. He fought, he fought, but he was dealing with RINOs, all such crap.

Doug, you fought like very few people fought, that's really why he's here, because everybody saw that. He fought. You know, after people figured it out. They all ran on the basis of "we're gonna stop" but they were not there. He was there at the beginning. And the people understood it.

So the big deal—by the way, I saw a poll today, Doug, that you're tied or up one point. Just so you know, again, all they do well is cheat on elections and use this information. So when he's running, he's got a big base, and he won by a lot. He won by even more when I endorsed him, but that's okay. And you know what?

They said this guy Shapiro, who's a lightweight, they said the following. They saw he was going to win, he was doing well, he was way up and he had a big base and they don't like that. So what do they do? "The one we really want to run against is Doug Mastriano. That's the one."

Well, they say that one every time, they have somebody that's going to kick their ass, they go out and they say, "go on, we want to run again." The one person they didn't want to run against is Doug Mastriano. This information I kept hearing it, I'd be out I see the people going crazy for Doug, for his incredible wife but it's true.

He was right there from the beginning, day one, got to fight the Republicans and the Democrats, yet to fight people. American elections should be determined only by the American people. And that did not happen in 2020. and I'm just talking to FBI but there are many, many other things. We won't go into it.

The Mar-a-Lago raid was a desperate effort to distract from Joe Biden's record of misery and failure. The many disasters that our country in the world are now suffering would never ever have happened. If I was in the White House, you all know that all of this stuff when you could take the five worst presidents in American history and put them together, and they would not have done the damage Joe Biden has done to our country in less than two years. They could not have done it.

Two years ago when I was in office, gas was $1.87.

We weren't talking about going to all electric cars which are twice as expensive. I mean, the problem is—a friend of mine wanted to do something for the environment. He went out and bought a electric car and he made a certain trip. I won't say from where—Kentucky—I won't say from, and he's a good person. He wants to do what's well, now he understands. Not so good.

And he bought an electric car and he made the trip often from Kentucky to Washington, and he made it and he drove down and put the car away and drive back. He was getting like 38 miles a gallon and he was fine. And then he goes to hybrids and all the other things they can do.

But he wanted to go all-electric, because he wants to save our country, wants to save the atmosphere. And he called me, he said "I'm exhausted." Why? He said, "This damn trip took me forever. I drive for two hours, and then I'd have to have my car charged. And in two cases I couldn't find a place to charge it, but even if I could, it took me more time to charge the damn car than I could spend in it driving."

He said, "It took me two and a half times. Please Please let's get rid of this stuff. Please." And you see in California, you see what's happening there, with going all electric cars. Number one, people can't afford them. Number two, the batteries are made all in China, all the earth, the rare earth comes out of China.

And interesting. We have all the guests, and the guests to leave the gasoline, when it's refined. We have it all right under us, we don't have any of the other stuff. And if we did, our environmentalists wouldn't let us take it. It all comes out of China and a little bit in the Congo, guess who controls the Congo, China.

We play right into their hands you see where I'm getting a lot of great press because I told Germany, don't make a deal with Russia on the pipeline. And they said, "Oh, that's so funny." I actually didn't during the meeting, G7, I sent, Angela, Angela Merkel, a white flag of surrender. She said, "Donald, Donald, but why'd you send me this white flag?"

I said, "Angela, you're going to surrender, 75 percent of your energy is coming from Russia. If you look back over the decades, Russia and Germany haven't done too well together. When there's a war, when there's a problem, they'll just turn it off, Nord Stream II, and Angela, you're not going to be able to defend yourself." "Oh, that will never happen."

Well, that was about two years ago. The only thing, I never thought it was gonna happen this fast. And now they're giving me great—remember, I made the speech at the United Nations. And the German delegation was all smiling. They thought it was so funny. They're not smiling. No one said it better than me. They're not smiling.

But now gas is $5 and $6 and $7. And it's going to be going up. Think of it, and they brag because it came down slightly. You know, it came down about 42 cents.

We actually had it down to $1.42. Remember that? But I had to get it a little up. We had to let the oil companies make a couple of bucks. I didn't want to wipe out the oil companies.

But what's happened is one of the big reasons for inflation is what this guy has done with energy, because energy is so all-encompassing. It's so big. With the help of Pennsylvania energy workers. Did you get screwed or what? Remember, I told you they were gonna do this to you. He lied during the debate. He said, "No, no, I would never do that." The first thing he did practically was kill the pipeline. Right? That was like the first thing he did.

And you know, all those workers voted for me, but the head of the Union voted. I wonder if he's still the head, check it out. He ought to be fired real fast. The Keystone pipeline would have been great. A lot of jobs, would have done a good job, with the help of Pennsylvania energy workers, under my leadership. We had American energy independence for the first time ever, ever.

And within a short period of time, we would have been energy-dominant. We would have been bigger that Russia and Saudi Arabia combined, times two, and now we're beggars.

We're like a beggar nation. You think that, we're energy beggars, we would have been bigger than everybody combined. The two biggest, the biggest energy suppliers combined times two. We're going to be energy-dominant and figures we gave you the largest tax cuts and regulation cuts in American history. The radical Democrat Congress just passed one of the largest tax hikes in American history, pulverizing the middle class and now you have the privilege of having 87,000 IRS agents go after you. And they've actually been approved. I'd never heard of this one. They got approved to carry guns so they can go after you with guns. You know, they don't want to have guns but it's okay for the IRS. It's like an army.

Can you imagine that that was approved? That they allowed that to get through?

And all Mitch McConnell had to do is waive that debt ceiling. I'm not approving anything having to do with debt ceiling, unless you drop all this crap, $4 trillion. Because McConnell folded like a dog, you saw that, and I always said he would, I told you he will, he did. And West Virginia which voted for me—45 points I was up 45 points—West Virginia is not happy with Joe Manchin, because he killed coal, and they put taxes on coal. Clean beautiful coal, he killed it. I can't imagine he's going to do well. I don't know—well, the heck to him.

Under the Trump administration, we had the greatest economy in the history of the world with no inflation. Biden and the Democrat Congress created the worst inflation in 50 years, 9.1 percent. It is gonna go a lot higher. And now they are making it worse with their immoral plan to wipe out hundreds of billions of dollars of debt for college graduates. Now think of this. How unfair is it, how unfair is it all of those, people, many of you are here, that paid and worked so hard. I saw they were doing a story about Pocahontas. That's Elizabeth Warren from Massachusetts.

And this big strong guy came up, a really good looking guy. And he looks at he goes, "Hey, well, what's going on with this debt? You want to cancel the debt? I've been working my ass off for 12 years," he said, "and I've almost got my daughter's debt paid off. I worked weekends for 12 years. My neighbor, he's my friend but he hasn't worked at all. And now his debts could have been canceled, but I worked. This is unfair."

And then he was not doing nice after that. So we'll forget what he said, that he was not too happy. But you can multiply that times millions and millions of people. They paid for it on the backs of hardworking citizens and they're raising your taxes. Remember this, you don't realize it, you're getting the biggest tax increase in history. So all this information, they're saying under, under 400,000, You're getting the biggest tax increase in the history of our country. So enjoy paying it.

And you know what? It's paying for things like that, but the "Green New Deal," which is like taking the money and throwing it out the window, and it's actually worse. It's actually like taking the money and destroying our country. Because it sets us back. Just like Germany, you know, Germany's back to building and opening its plants because they got so screwed up with a green new energy.

They got carried away, windmills all over the place, killing all the birds, destroying all the values of homes, destroying the plains and fields, beautiful plains. If you want to see a dead bird cemetery, go under a windmill sometime. It's not a pretty sight. It's also the single most expensive form of energy you can get.
And all of those big giant turbines are built in China and Germany to a lesser extent.

I rebuilt our military including our nuclear capability and hope to God we never have to use it. And the creation of the Space Force. See what they're doing with Iran. Iran was dying to make a deal with them, without a deal done, within one week after the election. And now we're going to pay them hundreds of billions of dollars and they're gonna have nuclear weapons within a short period of time.

These people are crazy, this figure. I mean, they honestly, they can't be stupid. They must hate our country. They must hate our country. They surrendered our strength and our wisdom, our everything. They turned Afghanistan into the greatest humiliation our country has ever seen.
. I believe it was the most humiliating thing, time that our country's ever gone through.

Thirteen dead soldiers, but they never mentioned those soldiers who lost their legs and arms and face. They were obliterated. Nobody talks about them and there were many. Nobody talks about them. We left American citizens behind. And we left $85 billion worth of the best military equipment in the entire world, planes and tanks and goggles 700,000 rifles and AK-47s.

We left it all behind, figure this, 70,000 vehicles is not a used car lot in the country that has probably 500 vehicles, 70,000 vehicles we left behind. Some of those vehicles cost millions of dollars because they're armor-plated with six inches of steel. We left it all behind. I built much of it. Because I rebuilt our entire military, think of it, $85 billion worth of military equipment. And you know, I saw a number the other day, the second largest arms dealer in the entire world is Afghanistan.

Because they're selling their cars. They don't need 700,000 rifles and guns—700,000—they need 40,000 or 20,000. What were we thinking? You don't take the military out first. And remember this, in Afghanistan 18 months, we didn't lose one soldier. You heard the numbers' Philadelphia, 18 months.

I spoke to Abdul, I said, Abdul don't do that. Don't do that. "Why sir. Why do you send me a picture of my house?" I said Abdul, That's a different story. Don't go and we were fine. Remember, they said, why is he speaking to the Taliban? Because that's where the problem was, right. That's where the problem was.

Eighteen months and Biden, actually a couple of months ago, well, I'll say one thing. We didn't lose one soldier in 18 months and they're screaming at him. You don't take it back. You're not supposed to say that, because it's good. We didn't lose a soldier in 18 months. They were so afraid. They didn't want anything. We could have gotten out, I want to get out more than anybody. I'm the one that got it down to 2,000.

But also, we should have kept Bagram because if China—Bagram Airbase costs billions and billions of dollars, years ago, to build. It's one hour, a day from where China makes its nuclear weapons. We should have never left without keeping Bagram. What a shame.

The most humiliating time I believe, actually, that probably, Putin went in because when he saw the incompetence of that, he said, "This is going to be easier than I thought." And now we have a war between Russia and Ukraine with potentially hundreds of thousands, and even millions of people, are going to die. That would have never happened if I was your president. Would have never happened. I promise you.

Vladimir, you can't do that.

Those beautiful golden terrorists in Moscow, Vladimir, I want to leave them alone. Please. You can't do it, Vladimir. He would never have done it. He would never have done it.

He said "Why should I believe you? You did kill me on Nord Stream." Nobody thought that was possible. I ended Nord—can you imagine? Biden came in and he opened up the pipeline. I ended it. Then he says, "Oh, Trump was soft on Russia." I was soft.

The only one that doesn't think that is Putin. He didn't think I was too soft with the sanctions. But think of it, the biggest deal they've ever done is Nord, that nobody ever heard of until I came along. They were building this massive pipeline. Nobody ever heard of Nord Stream II till I came along.
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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

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We created the border in United States history. We ended catch and release, we deported record numbers of illegal aliens, gang members, and we built hundreds and hundreds of miles of border wall. In two and a half years of Democrat-inspired losses, we're delivered lawsuits. I want every one of them, look, two and a half years that went. And you know, we completely finished our original plan for the wall and they came to me for some other sections. They said, "Let's do it. Come on. Let's go fast." Then we added much more wall, 200 miles, and we almost got that finished on top of what we did. And I figured that this guy would finish it up. And he didn't!

Not only didn't finish when Texas wanted to use the stuff that was sitting there ready to be erected, it was going to be erected very quickly. Very quickly. very effectively. Great, great wall. It's actually what Border Patrol wanted. I said what do you want? This is exactly what, steel. They wanted concrete. They wanted rebar, heavy set rebar. They wanted exactly that, and they have to be able to see through, so we see what's happening on the other side.

I want to just give a nice big beautiful concrete plank but they didn't want that. So we gave them exactly what they wanted. And this could have been finished in a few weeks. And not only didn't they give this free to Texas, Texas could have put it up. They actually took it away, and put it in a secure area. And nobody can take it. That's just a terrible thing. Three weeks was all it would have taken to complete the job.

Our country is paying a terrible price for the rigged election. I ran twice. I won twice and did much better the second time than I did the first, getting millions and millions more votes in 2020 than we got in 2016.

Doug knows that we got millions of more votes. I tell people, yeah. Oh, what a great job you did. I was being interviewed by this fake news reporter. And he said what happened in 2020? I said, Well, we did much better actually. We got New Orleans, more votes, we get the largest number of votes of any sitting president in history. They said, "You know, I never thought of it that way." I said why don't you start thinking about that way. Got a rigged election. And likewise getting more votes than, think of it, there has never been a person as the sitting president got anywhere near. I think we got like 10 million more votes than Obama. You know, so popular.

He's so popular. They say he's so handsome. Oh, Obama is such a great speaker. What does he say? He says nothing. And we're leading Biden, and everyone else including the Republicans, by record numbers in the polls. So I may just have to do it again. You'll be starting to have to do it again. Do it again. Have to do it again.

But first, we have to win a historic victory for the Republican Party this November.

Among our highest priorities must be to end the nightmare Joe Biden and congressional Democrats have created on our southern border, that nightmare.

Remember this, we had the strongest, best border we ever had two years ago. Now we have the worst border. I believe it's worse than any border anywhere in the world. Because no country would let people come into the country the way we have. Right here in Pennsylvania, last year two illegal alien criminals allegedly brutalized and bludgeoned women to death. On a busy street corner in Chester County and illegal alien stands accused of grabbing a 33 year old woman by the hair, pulling her down and around the ground and stabbing her to death in front of her 7-year-old daughter.

Just a few weeks ago, an illegal alien murderer was charged with shooting to death a 76-year-old man from Pennsylvania. He took a walk every morning and this guy killed him for no reason whatsoever. He didn't know, he didn't know him, didn't do anything. Just wanted to kill him.

The radical Democrat Congresses turned our country into one giant sanctuary for serious criminal aliens. We protect all of the criminals, we don't protect our own people. In fact, they raid our people.
And the Republican Party. We believe our country should be a sanctuary for law abiding citizens who love America. If we're going to make America great again, our first pass is to make America safe again. We have to have a safe country.

You know, I told you before, I love the fields, but I like these better because of the air conditioning system, but that conditioning is not working too well. It's about 100 degrees up here. I'm sweating like a dog but I'm cold. Dr. Oz? Dr. Oz.? Am I okay Doctor? Am I okay? He says yes. I was in Arizona for his show years ago and Dr. Oz, in a second, but I was at a show years ago and he did like an examination of me—I don't know what the hell they did the show for, I wasn't like even a politician at that. But he did an examination, and the word he said is extremely healthy. Very, very fine, fit man but he should lose 20 or 25 pounds. I was so angry. I didn't speak to him. He said he was great but he could lose a couple of pounds.

He's great. He's gonna be great.

Under a Democrat, all the streets of our great cities are drenched in the blood of innocent victims. Much of this crime is caused by drug dealers, who during the course of their lives will kill an average of 500 a month. Citizens, every drug dealer is responsible. And that doesn't include what they've done to families of people that haven't died, but families that are just devastated by what happened to their children and to themselves. Think of it, 500 people the average drug dealer kills. I'm calling for the death penalty for drug dealers which will upon stashes reduce drug distribution in our country on day one by 75 percent.

No more blue ribbon committees. What to do, you know, I was setting them up in the White House, is a blue ribbon committee headed by socialites, and they just want—I mean, look, they're very nice people, but they just want a little publicity for themselves. They can't deal with the kind of killers that would—We want the death penalty for drug dealers, and you will save millions of lives. You know, we're gonna lose 250,000 people I think this year, you know, just to go off for a second. Does anybody mind that? I do that.

Is there any perfect place to be on a beautiful Saturday evening than a Trump rally?

But just to go for a second. So you know, I got to know a lot of the foreign leaders and let me tell you, unlike our leader, they're at the top of their game. There's no one in like Central Casting that could play the role in Hollywood, all of Hollywood. Nobody can play the role of President Xi of China. Nobody could play the role. He's a fierce person. Putin, fierce, is smart. You know, a lot of times I'll say somebody's smart, and the fake news go, he thought President Xi smart.

He rules with an iron fist 1.5 billion people. Yeah, I'd say he's smart, wouldn't you say he's smart? So I'm with President Xi. And I got along with him to work. I mean, once COVID is yourself, but we made a great trade deal with him, helped our farmers, helped our manufacturers, but I'm with him. And I really had a great relationship with him. And then I asked him a question I said, "President," he's president for life, by the way, like thinking as a king. He said, "but I am not a king." I said, "You are to me, you're president for life. It's the same."

You will be very soon, you know that—another thing by the way. Do you notice a lot of ships are circling Taiwan. That wouldn't have happened either, by the way. But I said, "President could I ask you a very simple question. Do you have a drug problem?" He looked at me like, what's wrong with that? "No, of course not." He goes, "No, no." He's like, "What the hell of a stupid question it is. No."

I said you don't have a drug problem with 1.5 million people. His big problems, they make the drugs, he sent them into our country. That's their problem. That would have been their problem and he was stopping it too. But now they're sending the fentanyl in numbers that you wouldn't believe, wouldn't believe it, pouring through that portal. At numbers you wouldn't believe, I had him very close to stopped. He couldn't do it. "So President, President, you don't have a drug problem, but why? But why don't you have a drug problem?"

"We have quick trial. It's a what is it quick. We immediately catch the drug dealer. We give him quick trial. And if he is guilty, which I would say probably,"
Would you say, Oz, would you say they're getting 100 percent? Or only 99?

"If the drug dealer is guilty, he is immediately executed. So we have no drug problem." And they have other countries like that to Singapore, other countries. And if you do that, you know, I'm told this and it's a hard thing to say, because calling for the death penalty stuff, but think of it.

They kill 500 people during a lot of time, and I think it's much worse than that. I think that's only what we hear about who would stop it. If you didn't get it down, 75 percent. Person said from day one, I'd be surprised and these committees that they set up, it's laughable, it's a horrible thing. We would solve that problem so fast and I'm calling on Republicans and Democrats immediately to institute to get to 10, and institute the death penalty for drug dealers. You will no longer have a problem.

Philadelphia has become, as you heard many times over the last short period of time, worse than it's ever been. It's become a killing field a few days ago. A 4-year-old boy was shot while getting a haircut. For his first day in school. His mother was so proud of him, is getting a hug. He was shot.

Recently, a mother was shot in the head and horribly murdered, her unborn baby was miraculously saved. Under a Republican Congress. We should pass emergency funding to hire thousands and thousands more police officers nationwide to put violent criminals behind bars and keep them behind bars and also leave our police alone to do their job.

Give them back the respect, they know what to do and nobody can do it better but they're under siege.
They don't want to lose their house. They don't want to lose their families. What they do to police officers. What they do to police. You're always gonna have some bad apples, but they're very few and we have a country that's become one of the most unsafe countries in the world.

Think of it, you're gonna deal with third world nations where they're much safer than many parts. Think of it. what I said in Afghanistan, we didn't lose one soldier in 18 months. And yet I just read off numbers in Philadelphia. If you look at Atlanta, I have a district attorney in Atlanta, she's asking for a perfect phone call. And yet, it's even worse proportionately than Chicago for killing.

But the district attorney, Trump made a phone call, because he was challenging the election. So they're after me for perfect—by the way, perfect for you. Be very proud of me. Just like the call to Ukraine was a perfect call. The one in Atlanta was a perfect, perfect call and yet Atlanta is even worse than Chicago. Proportionately restoring safety. Market starts with defeating the Democratic stream. It's right here in Pennsylvania, your state's radical Democrat candidate for Senate. John Fetterman is the most dangerous Democrat.

He's the most dangerous Democrat.

He came to join Congress this year and one of the most fringe far-left freak shows ever to seek election for any offense [office?]
, at any stage and I've watched them over the last couple of years. And I said, "You gotta be kidding."

Actually I saw Conor Lamb, I don't know, kind of be a decent politician, you know he can't pay into the sort of middle Democrat area and he was doing commercials that was so good for me, the people thought that he was a Republican. I like Conor Lamb.

But Fetterman got it. He got it in a landslide. And this guy is a disaster. He comes in with a sweat suit on, I've never seen him wear a suit. A dirty dirty, dirty sweat suit. It's really disgusting. You know, I'm a clean freak. I'm a clean freak, Oz, I don't like those dirty sweat suits that disgusting.

Fetterman may dress like a teenager getting high in his parents basement. But he's a raging lunatic, hell bent on springing hardened criminals out of jail in the middle of the worst crime wave in Pennsylvania history. He wants everybody out of jail.

And, by the way, he wants to get rid of the police. Fetterman is a defund the police Marxist who's just pulling the wool over people's eyes, who literally said that if he had a magic wand and could fix one thing, he would end life sentences without parole for murderers, cop killers, rapists and other monsters. Criminals. That's what he said.

He wants him to get them out of jail.

Get addicts? Yeah, let's put Trump in jail. Let's get these murderers, let these murderers out, put Trump in jail. That Trump is no damn good. He has worked his ass off for this country through his position on the Pennsylvania Board of Pardons. Fetterman has released a record number of dangerous criminals, back on the streets, many of which have created horrible just atrocious crimes. He supports setting loose one out of every three inmates in your prisons. And he bragged that his goal is to get as many criminals out onto the street as quickly as possible.

Fetterman supports taxpayer-funded drug dens and the complete decriminalization of illegal drugs including heroin, cocaine, crystal meth, and ultra-lethal fentanyl, and by the way, he takes them himself—which would mean death and despair for every community in Pennsylvania and every community in the United States of America.

Compare that to President Xi of China, a little different, wouldn't you say? Fetterman openly supports deadly sanctuary cities and he signed a pledge to ban fracking which would demolish almost a million jobs in Pennsylvania.
I told them, I told you they were going to do that Pennsylvania, well you did listen to because I won Pennsylvania by a lot.

I can only hold accountable the people that counted the votes. Did you ever hear the statement by, I believe it was Lenin, did anyone ever hear of—many people would say it with less sophistication, Lenin. Lenin, I like the way they say that. Where he said the vote-counter is far more important than the candidate, well that turned out to be true. The vote-counter is far more important than the candidate, said by Lenin.

And while Fetterman wants to raise your taxes, he is a spoiled and entitled socialist loser who leached off his parents' money, you know he lives on the parents money until he was 49 years old. And on top of it all, he's too cowardly to even show up and debate.
A very nice man. Nice. He's very nice, and you'll treat him nicely, right?

Because he knows that his positions are totally indefensible, and in all fairness, you need to be out there and just ripping it for you, otherwise you're going to lose out to all the other southerners that are going to bring back money to the states, et cetera. And as we'll do it.

Fetterman is running against a man I've known for many years. I told you I had a real problem with him when he said I was a little heavy. I didn't like that. And of course it was wrong, was he wrong? And who is with our MAGA movement all the way. he's with us all the way. And you know, some people thought that, "Oh gee, maybe it was a little bit of a controversial thing," but I know him very well. And he's a guy that gets it done. He's a good person, and his wife is a fantastic person, I think I like her even more than I like him, Lisa.

So I'd like to ask Dr. Oz to step forward and say a few words. He's been an incredibly successful man on television, in medicine. He knows what's happening, and he's going to work and fight for Pennsylvania. Thank you.

Dr. Oz: Pennsylvania, we have one question, one important question we have to answer by November 8. Are you ready for it? Is the country headed in the right direction? If your friends say "Yes," take away their car keys. They should not be driving in that condition, people should stay home. But if the answer is no, we've got a big problem. This country has dramatically turned in the wrong direction. I'm the person for change.

I'll make the change based on our family values here in Pennsylvania, because I believe in the American dream, I am part of the American dream. My whole life has been about hard work, and earning, and supporting kids because that's what Americans do. I believe we can make safe city streets and communities. I believe we can have a secure border and allow legal immigration but not the fentanyl brought by traffickers bringing human beings and fentanyl from China which took 100,000 lives last year.

And I know people just aren't hurt by fentanyl. I believe we can have an economy that hurts the American people but most importantly, I believe in each and every one of you and so should you. God bless you.

Donald Trump: We have a great record of endorsement, all of us together. Very close to 90 percent. And I endorsed that guy and I'm telling you, I will always tell you this. I'll tell you the truth and he's going to be a phenomenal representative for Pennsylvania. You gotta vote him and you got to vote.

Great guy. And Lisa, thank you very much. Thank you very much for what you have to put up with, Lisa. Thank you very much. You know they spent, just so you know, they spent like $50 million trying to destroy that man. $50 million. Like it was water. And they didn't come close. This guy is tough and he's strong and he loves us.

This November, you also have to defeat the far left Democrat candidate for governor, Little Josh Shapiro—who is so much like Fetterman, other than he's about half his height which is fine. It's fine. I would say it's absolutely fine as we don't want to tell height jokes. Not here to tell any jokes today. Not weight jokes, not height jokes. I've got them all covered.

But he is a disaster for the state. He's the one that kept saying "Oh, after" after it came out that we have a great man running against him. "Oh, that's the man I wanted to run against." No it's not. Because that's the man that had a base like I do. He has a base that's so powerful and so strong. He doesn't want to run again. As attorney general, he presided over the complete disintegration of law and order and letting things and criminals run wild.

Look at the numbers I just talked to you about in Philadelphia. Well, he's the guy who knows those numbers are getting worse. There is nothing to stop these animals from continuing, those numbers are gonna get worse, if that's possible. It's not even—you would think it's not possible.

Shapiro supports sanctuary cities, and he sided with Marxist anti-American BLM radicals and Antifa, and he's a vicious hater of free speech and a hater of your Second Amendment. So he's gonna let criminals roam your streets, and he's not gonna let you have a gun to protect yourself. Shapiro is also using his office to shut children's schools and force masks to be strapped to your children's faces, doing unimaginable harm.

And like Fetterman, Shapiro is a pro-abortion extremist who supports totally unrestricted abortion on demand. Right through the ninth month.
Think of this and you know where I am. You know where I am, the exceptions, I believe in the exceptions. He supports it the right through the ninth month and beyond. You know what beyond means, after the baby is born, after the baby is born. So as I said in my debate with Crooked Hillary Clinton, rip the baby out of the womb at anytime, and if the baby's already out of the womb, he's there too. "Just talk to the doctor."

Now you don't want that. States will make the decision by the way, the states will make the decision and in Pennsylvania, I have a feeling that decision will be an interesting decision, but it's up to the states and that's the way it was always supposed to be. But he wants to let things happen that no civilized person would allow. They don't allow it in other countries.

No Pennsylvanian should listen to one word on abortion from these two twisted sickos who believe in killing and dismembering babies right up until that that time that time of birth.
Shapiro is running against an incredible patriot and a fearless warrior for Pennsylvania workers and Pennsylvania values. Doug Mastriano, who has been with me right from the beginning, I mean right from the beginning. I remember that. They all wanted my endorsement. They all ran.

I know you had the U.S. attorney, nice guy. He was a nice guy, but he didn't do anything in terms of the election fraud. "No, there was no problem in Pennsylvania, there was no problem." There was massive problems. And then he wants to run, he said, "Sir, Bill Barr would not let me go after anybody. He wouldn't let me touch anybody." What a shame what an opportunity, but he wanted to run. Others wanted to run.

I said the one guy that supported election integrity and supported me right from the beginning. Is Doug Mastriano. One day he came to the White House with a whole group of people. He brought them and he was working like hell, it was really an uphill battle because you had the Democrats. They didn't want to hear anything. And then you had some bad RINOs that just—somebody, someday, somebody's going to explain the RINOs. Why are they doing it?

But Doug is a former Army colonel who honorably served our country in uniform for 30 years before going on to fight for you. In the State Senate, he became the most respected person in the Senate and definitely the hardest fighter. He was the relentless person out there fighting against lockdowns and COVID mandates. He didn't want to destroy real Americans, he got it long before the so-called doctors who weren't very good, and a true champion for election integrity and tough as hell on a thing called illegal immigration.

We want people to come into our country legally. As your governor, he will back down from nobody, he'll back down those violent criminals and crack down on violent crime and COVID mandates, protect Pennsylvania oil and gas workers, which right now—enjoy your job for another couple of months, because you're not gonna have it longer.

And defend your jobs, your rights and your freedoms. Doug is joined by an incredible person who I also got to know because we were in a real fight with a lot of really sick, bad people. Rebby, thank you very much. Thank you, stand up. And she was a big part. She's a great partner to a man that will be one of the greatest governors in this country. Doug, please come up. Please come up.

Doug Mastriano: Oh, yeah. Thank you, Mr. President. Philadelphia loves you and America needs you. Thank you for your leadership.

Thank you for paving the way for people like me and everyone you see out here to fight for freedom. Thank you for taking the shots. And standing boldly and leading by example, Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania is the Keystone State. On 8 November, we're taking our state back by storm. That's right. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna be the state where people want to come to raise their families, to succeed in business on day one. We're out of the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative. We're gonna drill and dig like no tomorrow. That's right. That's right. We're gonna do it. Oh, yeah.

On day one, we're no longer a sanctuary state. So Joe Biden can have these illegals, we'll drop them off at his beach house where he spends all his time anyway. You can have them on day one. We're gonna have the backs of law enforcement on day one, there's no more mask requirement or COVID jab requirement. That's right.

We're gonna walk like free people like never before, Pennsylvania. This is where the light of liberty was lit in 1776, a new birth of freedom in 1863. And something very near and dear to both of our hearts: We're going to fight like hell for voting integrity, and we're going to start with voter ID. That's right. That's right.

The left, my opponent, is too dangerous, too extreme and too radical. When he can't even define what a woman is, then the guy is nuts. Pennsylvania is less safe with his six year record of failure as attorney general that all ends on 8 November. Pennsylvania, the key to our nation starts with us. And let's not forget that on September 11, 2001, and you are a champion on 9/11/2001, Mr. President, and he was. We saw him at the World Trade Center. Meanwhile, Flight 93 over Somerset County, the terrorists had it. Todd Beamer and other people on that flight took action. What did they say?

Pennsylvania, let's roll!

Donald Trump: You know, Doug said a lot in a few short sentences. One of the things he mentioned was voter ID. The Democrats don't want voter ID. Actually it's interesting. The leadership, the people want it, 91 percent Democrats, but the leaders don't want voter ID, OK. I think the only reason you don't want voter ID, there's only one reason because you want it cheap, right. That's the only reason.

When you had the Democrat National Convention, the last one, they had signs, and the biggest signs, they were like billboards, pictures, fingerprints, everything. You couldn't get in. But the greatest thing happened over the last few days, Starbucks, this guy Schultz. The one with the extremely thin legs. I think maybe Dr. Oz would have said he's either really good or very, very, very thin. But he was doing a debate. He was sitting down, I thought his legs—I didn't think he'd be able to stand up. But Schultz, he's the head of it.

But he just announced unions are trying to take over stuff. But he will not under any circumstance allow mail-in voting because it's evil and corrupt. And the process can be corrupted. And yet when he was running for president for about three days before he realized he couldn't do it, took him about two days. But when he was running for president, he was talking about mail-in ballots. Now that he's got his company that he's got a nice piece of, he wants nothing to do with voting by mail-in ballots for unions, because he says you can't get their vote, and it's easily corruptible.

When are people going to get smart, and get rid of this mail-in voting in Pennsylvania, killing our country. You'll do it. We're also joined tonight by the next congressman from Pennsylvania's 8th congressional district. Jim Bognet. Jim, thank you very much. Good luck. I hear you doing well, these two guys are gonna help you a lot. Thank you, Jim. Great job.

So Jim's running against radical Democrat socialist Matt Cartwright. That's another beauty. Who said he's all on board for the Green New Deal. Greatest waste of money in history. The Green New Deal, why don't you just throw the money right out the window. And he absolutely supports defunding the police and votes with Biden 100 percent of the time, so you know he can't be any good. Everybody get out and vote for Jim. Okay.

Also with us, our Pennsylvania treasurer, a very good person, good woman, Stacy Garrity. Hello, Stacy. Thank you, Stacy. Great job you're doing. Friend of mine—a warrior. Never laid down, always been their representative. Dan Meuser. Dan, thank you. Great job. Great job. Thank you. And also Fred Keller. Another warrior. Fred stand up, what a good guy. Thank you for all your help. He comes to our defense. He gets out there the two of them.

Now a woman is with us. She's very silent. Very shy. doesn't believe in using guns to protect yourself. Says anybody can come into my house anytime you'd like. No, no. She did a little ad I saw, her first time, and her ad was something to the effect. "Sure. Anybody can come into my house. He can be big," and she took this gun. I never saw anybody used this gun. Boom, put it back and she said, "But he might not get out of my house alive." And I said "I think I like her," Marjorie Taylor Greene.

A man I'm very proud of. He's got a tough race. But I'm very proud of this. You have a RINO governor in Maryland. His name is Larry Hogan. I think he wants to run for president. I think he wants to run for president, they said you got to look in the mirror first—it's not gonna work. Not gonna work. But he's a real RINO and he doesn't want this man because this is all for our country.

His name is Dan Cox. And he beat he beat Larry Hogan's candidate by like 20 points with my endorsement. With my endorsement, and he's doing fantastically Dan. Congratulations. And Larry Hogan—and this is my fault, I'm sorry, Dan—but Larry Hogan is not going to be supporting you only because I am supporting you. So I don't know what that means. But I can tell you that Maryland has a great, great man running and I hope you're going to do well and we'll be out there helping you.

Okay, thank you. I have a feeling you'll do very well. A friend of mine who's a great businessman and a great person, Mr. Woody Johnson and his wife, Suzanne Johnson. Where's Woody? Stand up, Woody! He's shy. They own a very small company named Johnson. Johnson, does anybody like Johnson? I want to own a piece of that company, too. Great job. We love your boss. And Cynthia Hughes and Gina Pernod with the Patriot Freedom Project. What a job they do. Where are you? Where are you, stand up for the job. And we all appreciate it. We all appreciate it.

With the help of everybody here today we are going to fight for Pennsylvania. We're going to win for Pennsylvania this November. One of the first things we will do is stand up for parents' rights. It's time to finally and completely break the radical local education cartel. Can you believe like 10 years ago, let's put yourself back, that somebody would stand up—I can't believe I'm calling myself a politician. But I guess I am. I don't know. I can't stand politicians.

But can you believe that 10 years ago—like put yourself in that position—a politician would be standing up saying we're going to defend parental rights? I mean, that's about as basic as it gets, but that's what we have to do because these people are crazy. Our children are captive to unhinged Marxist educators who are pushing inappropriate sexual, racial and political material on our children from the youngest possible age.

At long last, every parent in America must be empowered to opt out of the indoctrination and send their child to the public, private, charter, religious or home school of their choice. In addition, we will get critical race theory the hell out of our schools, out of our military and out of every part of our federal, state and local government, just like I did two years ago, it was out. We had it out, but they put it right back in.

We will also keep men out of women's sports. You know those stories that I tell? I love to tell those stories, the woman swimmers, I tell it again, should I, you want me to? Mr. Wall, stand up Wall, please. This is Mr. Irving Q. Wall, you know, it's so ridiculous. And you know, it's not politically correct, and a lot of people are afraid to talk about it, but I'm not—men in women sports.

So you have this swimmer, who's really—I met her the other day, very high quality swimmer and she's gonna break the record. She's worked like hell. She's worked all her life. The big meet is on and she looks to the left and she sees all of those great athletes that she's been fighting for years. She looks to the right, and she sees this massive human being, he's looking up, what is he, like 6'6" or something? He's got a wingspan bigger than Wilt Chamberlain. Wilt was small by comparison and she looked over, I've never seen her before. Anyway, she wanted to break that record she fought so hard to do. And the race started and as you know, she was severely injured. She was injured by windburn because he went by her so fast.

The wind burned the hell out of her.
And she didn't quite make it that day for the record. But he did. He broke the record by 38 seconds. You know, usually you break it by—she wants to break it by 1/8 of a second. But he was far better than her. He broke it by 38 seconds. That's one that no woman's ever gonna catch.

And then the better one is the weightlifter. You had a woman she's gonna lift the 213 pounds and that's a lot of weight. Do you think I could lift, Oz, you think I could lift 213 pounds and she got up and she was gonna break it. They put it half an ounce and a half an ounce and have these big barbells and dumbbells and she's up there and she pulls it up and she's gonna do it—couldn't do it too. So she was ashamed but she couldn't do it.

And then this person comes in you know, they actually call it—this is the correct term. A person in a man's body. That's what they call it. This is supposed to be politically correct. I hope it is. Otherwise they'll be very rude to me. The fake news will be very rude.

This guy walks up, they asked him before, did you lift? "No, not too much." And he gets up—ding—that was the end of that record. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And no teacher should ever be allowed to teach transgender to our children without parental consent.

Another one of our highest priorities under a Republican Congress will be to stop left wing censorship and to restore free speech in America. We don't have free speech. Go out and sign up, by the way, for Truth Social. Anybody on Truth Social? It's hot. And it's much better than Twitter. You see what's going on with Twitter. Twitter's not doing so well. Frankly, if we didn't have Truth we wouldn't be able to get the word out like they do. We get the word out fast.

The Radical Left Democrat Party is not, in my opinion, a 50 percent party within our country. They're against God, guns, oil, law enforcement, voter ID, tax cuts, regulation cuts, the Constitution and they're against our founding fathers. But other than that, actually, they're quite good. The way they win is to cheat in elections. I really believe that. How can you be against all of those things and for some of the things that therefore and be considered a 50/50 party? I don't believe it.

They cheat like hell on elections all over the country, and they're really good at it. Everywhere the Republican Party has the chance, we must pass critical election integrity reforms, including Universal voter ID citizenship confirmation. No more fake drop boxes by Zuckerberg and these people, no private money pouring into local election offices. And ultimately, we need same day voting with only paper ballots. Same day voting. Same day paper.

France just had an election. Big country—35 million people. They had same day voting, all paper ballots. The election ended at 11 o'clock. They had the vote, that was it. Nobody walked away. Right here in Pennsylvania, Democrats are still trying hard to rig your elections.

Act 77 clearly violates your state Constitution encouraging widespread abuse of mail-in ballots, and your radical left state Supreme Court just violated the Constitution a second time by overturning a decision by an unbiased lower court.
Republicans in the state legislature need to get to work immediately to kill Act 77 by a state constitutional amendment, they have to do it immediately.

We are just two months away from the most important midterm election in American history. And we need a landslide so big that the radical left just cannot rig it. You know the more we win by, it gets harder, harder, harder, harder. They can cheat a lot but once you get to a certain level, it gets very hard. This is the year we're going to take back the House. We're going to take back the Senate, we're going to take back America. We'll take back America.

And in 2024, most importantly, we are going to take back our magnificent White House. Together we will fight for more jobs for Pennsylvania families, fair trade for Pennsylvania workers and more Pennsylvania factories forging more products stamped with those beautiful, beautiful words, "Made in the USA," right? Made in the USA.

We will shut down Biden's border disaster, reinstitute our strong Remain in Mexico policy. How good was that, Remain in Mexico? You think it was easy for me to get Remain in Mexico from Mexico, but I got it. I said "You don't give it to me, you're gonna pay big tariffs on your cars." "Oh, we'd love to give it to you." Strengthen the patriots of ICE and Border Patrol. They're patriots and they're great. We will again end catch and release. We will end chain migration, we will end the visa lottery and we will clamp down on illegal immigration. Just like we did less than two years ago when we had the most secure border in our country's history.

We will stop the crime wave in Democrat-run cities, we will give our police the power they need and the respect they deserve. And we will not take legal protection away from our police. These maniacs want the police officers go out and hire lawyers so they can defend themselves. We won't do that. We will restore law and order in America. And we will override governors that don't look for law and order.

We will hold China accountable for unleashing the virus upon the world.
We will protect innocent life. We will defend our Constitution. We will defend the Second Amendment and we will proudly uphold the Judeo-Christian values and principles of our nations. We will restore education to our schools and we will teach our children to love their country, honor our history and to always respect our great American flag.

In conclusion, our MAGA movement, Make America Great Again, is by far the greatest political movement in the history of our country. Together we are standing up against some of the most menacing forces, entrenched interests and vicious opponents our people have ever seen. Despite great outside dangers, our greatest threat remains the sick, sinister and evil people from within our own country. But no matter how big or powerful the corrupt radical left Democrats are—and they are corrupt and they are powerful. We have to make them much less powerful. We will never allow anyone to forget that this nation does not belong to them. This nation belongs to you. This is your home. This is your heritage.

And our American liberty is your God-given right. From Allentown to Johnstown from Harrisburg to Pittsburgh, and from Philadelphia to Scranton, PA. We stand on the shoulders of American legends who poured out their blood, sweat and tears for our rights and for our freedom. They were so great.

Pennsylvania is where our founding fathers declared independence. It's where the army weathered its brutal winter at Valley Forge, where General George Washington led his men on a daring mission across the Delaware and where our union was saved by immortal heroes at Gettysburg. And this is the state where generations of tough strong Pennsylvania miners, factory workers and steel workers forged the greatest nation in the history of the world.

But now we are a nation in decline. We are a nation that is failing. We are a nation that has the highest inflation in over 50 years and where the stock market just finished the worst first half of the year since 1872. Likewise, we are a nation that has the highest energy costs in its history. We are no longer energy independent or energy-dominant as we just were two short years ago. We are a nation that is begging Venezuela, Saudi Arabia and many others for oil. "Please, please, please help us," Joe Biden says, but we have liquid gold right under our feet than any other country in the world.

We are a nation that is consumed by the radical left's Green New Deal, yet everyone knows that the Green New Deal will lead to our destruction. We are a nation that is surrendering all over, but in particular to Afghanistan, leaving behind dead soldiers, American citizens and 85 years' worth of the finest military equipment anywhere in the world. We are a nation that allowed Russia to devastate a country, Ukraine, killing hundreds of thousands of people and it will only get worse.

It would never have happened with me as commander-in-chief. And for four long years, it didn't happen. Never happen. And China with Taiwan is next. We are a nation that has weaponized its law enforcement against the opposing political party like never before. We've got a Federal Bureau of Investigation that won't allow bad election-changing facts to be presented to the public and a Department of Justice that refuses to investigate egregious acts of voting irregularities and fraud.

And we have a president who is cognitively impaired and in no condition to lead our country and everybody knows it. We are a nation that no longer has a free and fair press. Fake news is all you get and they are truly the enemy of the people. We are a nation where free speech is no longer allowed. Where crime is rampant like never before, where the economy has been collapsing, where more people died of COVID in 2021 than did in 2020.

We are a nation that is allowing Iran to build a massive nuclear weapon, which they are incredibly being allowed to do right now in China to use trillions and trillions of dollars that is taken from us to build a military, to rival our own.
And just two years ago we had Iran, China, Russia and North Korea in check. They weren't going to do a thing against us. And everybody knows it.

And perhaps most importantly, we are a nation that is no longer respected or listened to around the world. We are a nation that in many ways has become a joke. We are a nation that is hostile to liberty, freedom and faith. We are a nation whose economy is floundering, whose stores are not stocked. Whose deliveries are not coming and whose educational system is ranked at the bottom of every single list.

But we are not going to let this continue. Two years ago, we had the greatest election that we've ever had. But it was taken away from us. We weren't allowed to use the power of the people to make America great again. Two years ago, we also had greatness like no one had ever seen. And soon we have that greatness again.

It was hard-working patriots like you who built this country. And it is hard-working patriots like you who are going to save our country. We will stand up to the radical left lunatics, RINOs and we will fight for America like no one has ever fought before.

There is no mountain we cannot climb. There is no summit we cannot reach. There is no challenge we cannot meet. There is no we cannot have, We will not bend, we will not break, we will not yield. We will never give in, we will never give up. We will never ever, ever back down.

As long as we are confident and united, the tyrants we're fighting do not stand even a chance. We are Americans and Americans kneel to God and God alone.

My fellow citizens, this incredible journey we are on together has only just begun and it is time to start talking about greatness for our country again. We are one movement, one people, one family and one glorious American nation.

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Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat

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Fmr. National Intelligence Official Sue Gordon Interview
by Nicolle Wallace
MSNBC
Sep 1, 2022



Nicolle Wallace speaks with former Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence Sue Gordon about the national security implications of Donald Trump’s mishandling of classified information at Mar-a-Lago. Based on Gordon’s 30+ year career in the intelligence community, Gordon warns that “foreign threat actors who now know that information that we deem important has been and was recently in an unsecured location… they have the wherewithal and interest in going after that.”

Transcript

0:01
should former president trump still
0:04
receive intelligence briefings
0:06
i think not
0:08
it was an unprecedented step at the time
0:11
right after he took office president joe
0:14
biden said he would ban his predecessor
0:16
from receiving intelligence briefings
0:19
they are typically often provided to
0:21
former presidents new york times
0:23
explained the move this way quote the
0:25
first time that a former president have
0:27
been cut out of the briefings which are
0:29
provided partly as a courtesy and partly
0:31
for moments when a sitting president
0:33
reaches out for advice
0:35
currently the briefings are offered on a
0:37
regular basis to jimmy carter bill
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clinton george w bush and barack obama
0:42
before president biden made that
0:43
announcement sue gordon who served as
0:46
deputy director of national intelligence
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from 2017
0:50
until 2019 who the times described as
0:53
one of the most respected intelligence
0:55
officers of her generation made the case
0:58
for cutting off trump's access to
1:00
sensitive information in an op-ed in the
1:02
washington post shortly after the
1:04
capital insurrection she wrote this
1:06
quote his post-white house security
1:08
profile as the professionals like to
1:10
call it is daunting any former president
1:13
is by definition a target and prevent
1:16
some risk but a former president trump
1:18
even before the events of last week
1:21
might be unusually vulnerable to bad
1:23
actors with ill intent gordon went on to
1:25
describe how her experience with the
1:27
former president influenced her decision
1:29
quote i briefed him many times
1:31
participated in scores of meetings with
1:34
him as his principal deputy director for
1:36
national intelligence while i resigned
1:38
my position in 2019 this is not a
1:41
personal grievance as an intelligence
1:43
professional i have gone out of my way
1:45
not to judge his policy or personal
1:48
actions publicly this
1:50
is an intelligence assessment born of my
1:53
years of experience it's where we begin
1:55
the hour with the aforementioned sue
1:56
gordon one of our country's foremost
1:59
intelligence experts and professionals
2:00
she spent more than 30 years in the
2:02
intelligence community more than 20 of
2:05
them at the cia where she was involved
2:07
in among other high-stakes operations
2:10
the raid to kill or capture osama bin
2:12
laden she's been briefing american
2:14
presidents since ronald reagan when she
2:16
was four years old as we mentioned that
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includes former president trump when she
2:19
served as principal deputy director of
2:21
national intelligence which in plain
2:23
english means she was the number two the
2:25
second most senior intelligence official
2:28
in the united states of america it's a
2:29
pleasure to get to talk to you thank you
2:31
so much for taking the time today
2:34
you bet great to see you can i ask this
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is just a basic question um sure how was
2:40
what what was donald trump like
2:43
around classified
2:45
documents
2:48
uh so it's a great question i
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listen he was i think the first thing
2:53
you need to know is the intelligence
2:55
community always treated him as the
2:56
president which meant
2:58
we shared with him
3:00
any and all information that we believed
3:03
the president needed regardless of
3:04
classification so that's step number one
3:07
step number two is i think he was an
3:09
interested consumer
3:11
he did not come into office nor during
3:14
his time in offices i observe develop
3:16
any particular understanding of the
3:18
craft and discipline
3:20
of intelligence in other words what's
3:22
special about it how does it differ from
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what you read in the washington post new
3:25
york time as remarkable as those
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uh journalistic
3:30
publications are um but so
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he had access to it all we briefed him
3:35
all he was the president he had his
3:36
duties to carry out but it was my
3:39
experience that he didn't
3:41
appreciate
3:43
uh
3:44
the particular nature of
3:47
the craft edition of disappointment
3:48
intelligence and so that made him not
3:51
understand
3:53
what was being protected
3:56
and i guess nicole the the thing i would
3:57
just say
3:58
that is lost here is
4:00
you can't tell
4:02
what's classified
4:04
or important or the level just by
4:06
looking at it you can see something
4:08
sensational
4:10
and that can be something that is openly
4:12
available and you can see the most
4:13
mundane sentence and it is singularly
4:16
indicative of some intention
4:19
or some
4:20
action and so this idea that anyone can
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just
4:25
casually assume what is really
4:26
classified is just false and the same
4:29
thing i would say go for the president i
4:30
just don't think that he
4:32
acquired that
4:34
uh appreciation
4:36
you said a bunch of really important
4:38
things i want to try to unpack them i
4:39
mean not understanding the craft what he
4:42
said publicly went beyond not
4:44
understanding the craft and i assume by
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that you mean
4:47
the the
4:49
the professionalism and and the way all
4:51
of the product is curated and cold
4:54
embedded before anything's presented to
4:56
him the partnerships the alliances the
4:58
people who risk their lives to develop
5:00
and corroborate information before it's
5:01
ever presented to a president that craft
5:04
was lost on him
5:06
and how long it takes
5:08
and what it takes and who risks their
5:11
lives in order to
5:13
give us the information we need in order
5:16
to provide both national and global
5:18
security
5:20
you know intelligence isn't opinion
5:22
intelligence is the discipline by which
5:24
you take fundamentally uncertain
5:26
information
5:27
and
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work it so the
5:30
decision makers can deal with it with a
5:32
kind of certainty but within each
5:35
sentence
5:36
there are untold years untold risks
5:40
and untold relationships that are buried
5:42
within and that
5:44
in addition to the particular piece of
5:47
information is what you're protecting so
5:49
when you don't understand that or you
5:50
say i think this is something i can
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share and you don't understand that
5:55
you are potentially unraveling
5:58
networks that have taken years to build
6:00
and are at the cornerstone of global
6:03
security
6:06
were you ever involved in having to do
6:09
a spill assessment based on concerns
6:12
that he'd shared something um i know the
6:14
one that that is really public facing is
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his oval office meeting with sergey
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lavrov and i know h.r mcmaster ran did
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not walk to the driveway to assure the
6:22
press they had not endangered sources
6:25
and methods or ally sources and methods
6:27
with lavrov but there were other
6:29
incidents he he would tweet out photos i
6:31
mean he he was constantly trying to push
6:35
sensitive information into the public
6:37
domain where it served him
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so
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any time
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information was shared outside the
6:48
channels that would normally
6:50
be used to control it
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we routinely assessed
6:55
what the impact of that
6:58
would be now it is true that a sitting
7:00
president
7:02
does have many authorities to make
7:04
decisions in his role about national
7:06
security and nicole i just think this is
7:08
one of the things that's getting that
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gets so lost
7:11
we have access to classification
7:13
information to serve the nation's
7:15
interests
7:17
individuals
7:20
when they have access to that and
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especially when they have access to
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classify and declassify things as the
7:26
president did as i did and some others
7:28
you are a steward of the nation's
7:31
interests
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and so you
7:34
need to be
7:36
considering those interests when you
7:38
make every decision right so when is a
7:41
sitting president makes those decisions
7:43
that is in his role as the president a
7:45
decision about what's in the nation's
7:46
interest
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that is an entirely different role when
7:49
you are a private citizen as he is and i
7:52
am now that doesn't mean that at some
7:54
point the nation couldn't say gosh we
7:56
need the former president or gus we need
7:59
sue gordon to have access to information
8:01
anew
8:02
but when you're no longer in office
8:04
you are not the keeper of the nation's
8:07
interests and consequently your
8:08
authority and your responsibility
8:10
changes
8:11
but sue he's clearly talking about
8:14
declassification in the context of
8:16
personal criminal liability not the
8:18
context you're describing a state
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interest right
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yeah and so there's just no
8:24
you know the act of declassifying is not
8:26
a personal act
8:28
it's not not an act for preference it's
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not an act because i want to it's not
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because i want to do something it's
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because it serves
8:34
either the national or the public
8:36
interests and it's a process that you go
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through
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that you work with exa with experts to
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say
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if i declassify this what will the
8:44
impact be and can we bear it so it isn't
8:46
something casually done regardless of
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whether you have the authority to do so
8:50
or not and it isn't in order to protect
8:53
yourself or to
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aggrandize yourself it's just it's an
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entirely different thing and so
8:59
this discussion about authority to
9:01
classify
9:03
it it is not
9:06
for personal reasons even if it
9:08
temporarily resides in a person
9:11
ever while just and that is and that is
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the only way it's being discussed but he
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couldn't have broken the law because he
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had the authority no one in the national
9:19
security
9:21
not even establishment but never no one
9:23
who ever touched a national security
9:24
role is even interested in whether
9:26
you're the authority or not they're
9:28
they're interested in what has been
9:29
jeopardized and i wonder when you read
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right um
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and not just the picture for the shock
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value but when you read the programs
9:36
that may have been jeopardized i mean
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can you take us inside what abril haynes
9:40
is likely having to undertake in terms
9:43
of the assessment you kind of the
9:45
assessment that you would have had to do
9:46
if you were still there yeah
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so listen the act of classifying the
9:51
classification system
9:53
you know has some very specific
9:56
guidelines and it isn't casually done
9:58
either and it's all about
10:00
the value and specificity of the
10:03
information
10:04
and or
10:06
the sources and methods used
10:08
to acquire it and those have levels of
10:15
protections implied depending on how
10:18
exquisite
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either the information or the access is
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so i am sure that team is going through
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every document
10:26
making sure that it understands which
10:29
pieces of it represent that kind of
10:32
classified information and then looking
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at
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the impact of loss that usually comes
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down to
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what advantage are we deriving from it
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whether it is in partnership
10:44
in methodology or in the information
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itself and and they're breaking it down
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they're breaking it down by paragraph um
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they this is not going to be an exercise
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where they just blanket over classify
10:58
something they will look at each piece
11:00
of information there are professionals
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who look at
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classification
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and classification levels and they will
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be combing through this piece by piece
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you know nicole the other thing that
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they'll be that they know that i don't
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think we're talking about much and that
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is our adversaries have a
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and competitors have a voice in this
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listen don't be mistaken
11:26
foreign threat actors
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who now know
11:30
that information
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that we deem important
11:35
has been
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was recently
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in an unsecured location
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they have the wherewithal and the
11:43
interest in going after that
11:45
and they're going to be looking at that
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too
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so the
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we're talking about it as though it's
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specific just to the person donald trump
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i'm talking about the reason why we have
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these rules the reason why i wrote that
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op-ed is
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you don't even have to
12:01
be going after an individual to know
12:04
that this action by any individual is
12:08
putting the nation at risk and our
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adversaries and competitors
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will take any advantage
12:14
and we created an opening that is a much
12:17
lower bar than they typically have to
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cross
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