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From Epstein Flights to Deportation Flights. Amanda Ungaro, an Epstein survivor who shares a child with a man in the Trump Admin was illegally detained by ICE for 3.5 months and deported. Here's what she saw while in ICE's detention centers:
by bekah day
Jan 26, 2026
https://bekahdayyy.substack.com/p/from- ... eportation


Paolo Zampolli (an immigrant himself) posing with Homeland Security Officers.

If you have been following my past three articles or seeing my updates on other social media platforms, you know I have been intensively researching and covering Paolo Zampolli since July of 2025.

If you’re not caught up, you can read those past articles here —

#1. “The Trump Administration Just Deported an Epstein Victim.” | Published October 16th, 2025

#2. “Someone Was Always Watching.” | Published January 15th, 2026

#3. “A Message From Amanda: The Epstein Survivor Who Was Deported By The Trump Administration Speaks Out.” | Published January 19th, 2026

If you don’t have time to dive into all of those articles right now, no worries.

Here is some key information to know before diving into the rest of the piece you’re currently reading. (Obviously, see aforementioned articles for full context/receipts.)


Beyonce Knowles / Paolo Zampolli

- Paolo Zampolli is the former modeling agent who brought Melania to the United States in the mid-90s for Donald Trump.

- Paolo Zampolli owned ID Models in NYC, and is/was closely associated with Donald Trump’s “Trump Models”, Jean-Luc Brunel’s “Karin Models”, John Casablancas “ELITE Models”, and of course, Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton, and Ghislaine Maxwell (just to name a few people).


Cindy Crawford / Paolo Zampolli

- Paolo Zampolli went from working as a modeling agent, to now being a part of Trump’s current administration, a board member of the Kennedy Center, and United Nations diplomat.


Michel Adam, owner of Fashion TV and known predator, pictured with longtime friend and business partner, Paolo Zampolli. The photo on the right is of Michel Adam and released by The DOJ back in December with some of The Epstein Files.

- Paolo Zampolli is currently in a custody battle with the mother of his child, Amanda Ungaro, who met him as a teenage model.


Photo of model Amanda Ungarro - ID 167841

- Before meeting Paolo, Amanda met John Casablancas. John Casablancas, an infamous modeling agent and known child predator, was Paolo Zampolli’s mentor and inspired him to become a modeling agent. (Paolo also ran John Casablancas’ 1994 Elite Models Look of The Year Contest in Ibiza) Amanda Ungaro was just 13 years old when she first met John Casablancas.


John Casablancas and Donald Trump

- Amanda became a victim of Paolo Zampolli in just middle school. He began grooming Amanda at 15, and by 16 years old she was a passenger on Jeffrey Epstein’s plane alongside predators like Jean-Luc Brunel, Ghislaine Maxwell, and Jeffrey Epstein himself.

- Amanda Ungaro and Paolo Zampolli share a son together named Giovanni. Amanda and Paolo were together “romantically” for a total of 19 years, beginning when Amanda was an underage teen and began to unravel with an affair Paolo had in Washington D.C. during the first Trump Administration.

- Amanda Ungaro worked for the United Nations for 10 years representing Grenada.


Amanda Ungaro at UN Assembly

- After Amanda left Paolo due to long-term infidelity, physical, emotional, sexual, and financial abuse. When she left, he began harassing, threatening, and blackmailing her relentlessly.

- Amanda was arrested under very mysterious circumstances in June of 2025 at her workplace. We have since discovered the web of corruption that allowed Paolo Zampolli to use The United States Federal Government as a weapon against the mother of his child to have her wrongfully arrested.

Florida Arrest Report
Offender Information
Name: UNGARO, AMANDA SOARESFELIZA
Address; [DELETE]
Case Type: Dade County(FL)Arrest
County: Miami-Dade
DOB: 02/1985
SSN: xxx-xx-xxxx

Arrests
Arest #1
Categories: WARRANT FUGITIVE
Case Type: Dade County(FL)Arrest
Offense: ARREST WARRANT
Arrest Date: 06/18/2025
Arrest Disposition: BOOKED

Arrest #2
Categories: OTHER
Case Type: Dade County(FL)Arrest
Offense: HOLD FOR IMMIGRATION
Arrest Date: 06/18/2025
Arrest Disposition: BOOKED

- After being wrongfully arrested, Amanda Ungaro was held in ICE custody for 3.5 months without any opportunity for bail or a court date. She was eventually deported to Brazil, the country where Paolo Zampolli and Jean-Luc Brunel had originally discovered her.

- Amanda Ungaro and I were able to connect in early January 2026 and she has shared everything with me. She has an incredibly unique perspective of how models were systematically groomed and abused by modeling agents and their friends for decades.

- Amanda has released a statement and has begun sharing her story publicly. She has an amazing legal team who are fighting for her to get justice, and is sharing information publicly as she is allowed to by her legal team.

- I have been able to connect with some mainstream journalists (who have much larger platforms than all of my platforms combined) and are showing interest in running a story about Amanda Ungaro and Paolo Zampolli to bring more attention to how American taxpayers are currently paying the salary of a co-conspirator of Jeffrey Epstein.


Amanda Ungaro and Paolo Zampolli

One of the most mind numbing facts about this entire situation is the fact that our current administration deported a victim and witness of Jeffrey Epstein’s operation, after holding her in an ICE detention facility for 3.5 months.


Donald Trump, Paolo Zampolli, Amanda Ungaro

No due process was afforded to Amanda— despite her legal status, despite her decade of work for the United Nations, despite the father of her child being one of the sitting president’s closest confidants who could have stopped her suffering if he wanted to.

But as we have been shown by this administration, cruelty is the point.


Donald Trump, Paolo Zampolli, Riccardo Tanelli, David Copperfield

Since having the privilege of connecting with Amanda earlier this month, we have had— at this point, had hours upon hours of conversations. One thing I realized that I am not highlighting nearly enough within Amanda’s story is what she experienced while in ICE custody.

[Yes, there is MUCH to discuss surrounding her experience in the modeling industry, the modeling-trafficking pipeline, the celebrities, the diplomats, the international politicians (not just American) who she saw, and what she witnessed/experienced.

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Matt Gaetz, Ginger Gaetz, Amanda Ungaro, and Paolo Zampolli

Because we have not yet been successful in getting the attention of the House Oversight Committee with Amanda’s story (despite months of trying to get ahold of multiple members via social media and email), we do have to be very measured in names that we release.


Michael Richard Pompeo; born December 30,. 1963) is an American politician, diplomat, and businessman who served under President Donald Trump as director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) from 2017 to 2018 and as the 70th United States secretary of state from 2018 to 2021

We are hoping to soon get The House Oversight Committee to allow Amanda to share her testimony and proof (feel free to continue to tag them or send this their way), and also hopeful a hero in mainstream media will push her story out to more eyes and ears than I can reach by myself.



The more public awareness of this active and ongoing situation creates a safer landscape for Amanda and other survivors of Paolo Zampolli to share.]

A couple of days ago, while chatting with Amanda, I asked her if she would be open to answering a couple of questions that I had about her experience in ICE custody.

She agreed, and in the following section she will answer those questions in her own words.

With the recent tragic passing of two American citizens, Renee Good and Alex Pretti, whose lives were wrongfully taken at the hands of incompetent ICE agents, I think it’s very important to understand what those Americans citizens lost their lives fighting for.


Alex Pretti and Renee Good

They lost their lives fighting to hold accountable the ICE officers who are terrorizing human beings and throwing them in cages.

And our friend, Amanda Ungaro, has firsthand experience as to what it is like to spend months in ICE custody as someone who has never been convicted of a crime.

Bekah Day + Amanda Ungaro
January, 25th 2026

Question #1:
“Overall, how did the ICE officers that you interacted with treat you?”

Amanda Ungaro 1/25/26:
“They were rude and degrading always. They saw all of us the same and treated us like animals. The officers would scream insults at me and the other people I was detained with every single day.

They were especially cruel during the night.

The officers would yell at us to keep us awake. They would shine flashlights directly into our eyes when we would fall asleep. They didn’t want anyone to sleep or rest, but when we were awake they would just yell at us to shut up. Every move you make, they will find a problem with.

They thought it was funny the constant state of humiliation many of us were in.

We would have to beg for toilet paper.

We did not have access to basic hygiene on a regular basis.

When we would be allowed to shower, we would be forced to dry our bodies with tiny wash clothes instead of towels simply to expose our bodies and humiliate us.

The toilets didn’t work most of the time and did not have a door. Everyone, including the officers, watched us use the toilets and shower… it was so embarrassing.

They fed us like we were dogs and we never had clean drinking water.

They rarely let anyone access the phones, and even when they did they told us it costs money to use the phones. Many detainees couldn’t afford to make calls even if given the opportunity to pay. This made communication with family and attorneys very hard.

They mocked and humiliated us like it was part of their job description. The GEO correctional officers were also constantly mocking and yelling at us. They were the officers who operated the detention facility, the wardens.”

Question #2:
“What was the Detention Center(s) you were held in set up like? Were you only held at one or transferred multiple times?”

Amanda Ungaro 1/25/26:
”They were set up different, but officers all acted the same.

I was thankfully only transferred to two different detention centers during my almost 4 months in custody. I was held in both the Broward Transitional Center and the Louisiana ICE Processing Center.



In Miami, I was in a cell with 6 people.


Photo of a cell in the Broward Transitional Center from 2019 to have an idea of the size of cell six detainees are held in at a time. According to Amanda, when she was there the detainees were not offered sheets, towels, or pillows. Only one used blanket.

In Louisiana we were held in a big warehouse with bunk beds. It was like a dungeon… all wet with water always leaking from somewhere onto the floor. I barely saw sunlight the entire time I was there.



There were more than 100 women who were held in the warehouse at a time. We all had to shower together, use the toilets completely exposed — there was no privacy.”


Photos of the GEO Group’s website showing some of the beds where detainees are held. Amanda recalls the windows being covered when she stayed here.

Question #3:
“Did you see any children at the facilities you were held in?”

Amanda Ungaro 1/25/26:
”I didn’t see little babies, but girls around 15, 16, and 17 years old were there. They are still children.

I saw women who needed medical assistance be put into wheelchairs by officers with their hands and feet shackled and left alone for hours. We learned to not ask for medical assistance if we needed it.

There were pregnant women there. One woman who I was held with experienced a miscarriage while we were detained.

She was in so much pain. She was bleeding badly. The officers ignored her and she miscarried without medical assistance. It was a horrible situation. I saw it with my own eyes, I will never forget seeing that.

It’s not safe for pregnant women at any stage to not have access to a doctor, clean water, unspoiled food, and time to sleep. The stress and manhandling alone we all faced would have been unbearable while pregnant.

It was very scary because none of us knew when we were going to get out.”



Question #4:
”Did any of the ICE officers you interacted with at any point throughout your incarceration know you shared a child with someone in the administration?”

Amanda Ungaro 1/25/26:
”I tried to tell a couple of the officers my situation at the beginning. I don’t think they believed me. They didn’t care what any of us had to say. They had no mercy for us.”



Question #5:
"What was the most frightening part about your time in ICE detention?”

Amanda Ungaro 1/25/26:
”I felt scared the whole time. Especially at nighttime. The officers would routinely shine their flashlight directly into our faces when we would fall asleep and yell in our faces.

Night was also scary because that’s when the officers would conduct transfers.

It was common to see mothers, daughters, sisters, grandmothers, and other family members be booked in together, but they would never be together for long. The officers always separated families in the middle of the night.

I will never forget what nighttime sounded like for months. The officers screaming and yelling. Women crying out for mercy. I will never forget the sound.

They would pull us out of the cells day and night to search us. I don’t know why they did this so much, all we had were the dirty blankets they gave us to sleep with.

After working for the United Nations for 10 years, I have an understanding of the importance of respecting international law. I know humiliation, inhumane treatment, intentional cruelty, and psychological abuse can be seen as form of torture under international law.



It was scary to know that the officers didn’t have to follow the law, yet we were being treated like criminals even though many of us had never broken a law.”


Paolo Zampolli, Melania Trump, Donald Trump, and Amanda Ungaro


Melania Trump and Amanda Ungaro

Question #6:
”Can you tell me a little bit about your actual deportation?”

Amanda Ungaro 1/25/26:
”The deportation process was complete chaos.

We were all shackled by our feet and hands for the entire flight and the whole time we were in the buses that brought us to the airplane.


Example of the hand and feet shackles ICE officers use.

We sat shackled in the buses in the dark for at least 7 hours before even getting on the airplane. Both men and women packed in shoulder to shoulder in the buses and the flight. We could hardly move.

It was awful. We rarely were allowed to shower for the months we were detained, and the smell was terrible. We were all so dirty.

When I arrived in Brazil, they left me with nothing. I had no phone, no money, no identification, no credit card, and no clothes other than the clothes they give all detainees to wear.

I left Brazil over 20 years ago to follow my dreams to become a model. I was swept into a nightmare of terrible men, including the father of my child, Paolo Zampolli.

My punishment for breaking free from Paolo and his cycle of abuse came with the full weight of the United States government, and that is wrong.

I left Brazil with dreams, and I returned to Brazil stripped of everything. Even my dignity.

They did not understand that when they took everything away from me, including my child, I had nothing else to lose. And that gave me the strength to fight.

That’s why I am speaking now and will not stop speaking.”

Horrific.

There is a clear systematic pattern of abuse happening wherever ICE is in the United States. The trauma our government is inflicting upon innocent people is unacceptable.

Amanda’s situation should exemplify how this could happen to any of us. Despite legal status, despite our proximity to power, despite our connections, the machine demands to be fed.

Before you go, here is a clip of some footage Amanda filmed at an event during Donald Trump’s first term and has given me permission to share.

In this particular clip, you can see Donald Trump approaching his friend, Paolo Zampolli and exclaiming, “My man!”

The loyalty these men show to one another, only makes me understand just how much dirt they have on each other.

-B

“In times of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” George Orwel

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Amanda Ungaro & Paolo Zampolli -- The Scandal And Its Ties To Melania and Epstein w/ Bekah Dayyy
Hot Mics with Billy Bush
Apr 15, 2026

Why did Melania come out and talk Epstein last week? And who is Amanda Ungaro and why is she calling out The First Lady? What receipts does she have on Trump, Melania, Epstein... and her Ex-husband Paolo Zompelli... the scandal runs deep and ‪@bekahdayyy‬ joins us with all the receipts.



Transcript

very pleased to welcome Becca Day, uh, Tik Tok investigator extraordinaire, uh,
who is doing deep dives beyond the Epstein files into the underbelly of '9s, early 2000s New York fashion
nightife. She's uncovered seed connections, painted a clearer picture of this predator life off which Trump at
the very least drafted. Uh, Becca has been focused on unmasking and sort of deeply revealing the man who serves as
Trump's special envoy for global partnerships. The former modeling agency pimp who introduced Donald and Melania
at a fashion week event in 1998 when she was a do-eyed Slovenian modeling import
and he a horny, sleazy real estate tycoon. Uh, hello Becca. Welcome.
Hello, please.
You do incredible work. Um, she sent three emails of receipts. It's You are phenomenal. The work you do. I
They doesn't have anybody like Becky. I call you . It takes them You takes you no time to do None at all. Someone's got to do it.
Someone's got to do it.
You know, let's start there. Someone's got to do it. Why are you doing this?
Um I think I am like very interested in women see seeking justice and I think
that there's such a lack of support overall whenever women come forward and I think like the Epstein files in general is like a perfect example of
that like in 1996 when Maria Farmer reported to the FBI what happened if she would have been supported and if FBI
would have actually taken that seriously where would we be today? what maybe none of this would have happened. Do you know what I mean? So, it's like if so many
times along the road we've missed an opportunity to get justice for women.
Let's stop missing the opportunities and someone's got to someone's got to start,
you know, normalizing, really getting into the nitty-gritty and having transparency about what is going on with the files, who is actually involved, who
were the co-conspirators, you know what I mean? Totally. completely.
Um I I'm I'm stunned by by what you've been able to do. And let's begin with Paulo Zampoli. Yes.
Uh because that's where you are kind of right now. You have spoken to uh Amanda Angaro, have you not?
Yes. Amanda and I speak regularly. Um we've been speaking regularly since January and I won't like speak for her
or anything like that today. Um, but I know like I think the um shock from like I've been working with Amanda for months
to try to get her story mainstream and I think the shock of the media all paying attention at once was just a lot. So she's just like regulating her nervous
3 minutessystem calming down and then she's going, you know,
well she spent three months in a detention center in Louisiana or Texas or something and then she was deported off to uh Brazil where she's from now.
came from Brazil and she uh came with Paulo Zampoli who she later
had a non-legal marriage with but they have a son together and who's 16 years old and they were together for many
years couple decades I think 20 years but he was 32 she was 17 I mean just disgusting this guy but you know she was
plucked out of Brazil and and brought to this incredible world of modeling in in New York. Right. And Right. Right. And I think what's really
interesting is like her story exemplifies so many issues that we're like looking
at in our like political landscape right now. Like she's not we're not only talking about like the trafficking, the grooming, the modeling industry um and
like the Jeffrey's connections. Um it like we're talking about like how she this woman who went through all of that
as a child was put in an ICE detention facility and like I don't know if you guys talked about but Amanda worked as
an ambassador for the United Nations for 10 years.
Yeah. And it's just like so many she just completely slipped through the cracks. And
but Paulo Zampoli, you know, used his leveraged his connections obviously to Trump. Whether Trump was directly involved or not doesn't matter. He
leverages as this his connections and his position as the special envoy for global partnerships. I mean, this scumbag is hanging around the White
House taking selfies. And anyway, he wants they're in a custody battle. He wants custody. So he goes and speaks to
this David Venterella guy at ICE and he engags it just to inquire what's happening to my son's mother. I'm
wondering but somehow she ends up being that's one way to win a custody battle deported back to Brazil the mother of
his child. This is a terrible terrible person. It's it it's really disgusting.
And I think like a lot of people overlook that like when Amanda was like
15 like Well, and when she was 13, she met John Casablancas. I don't know if you're familiar with the name. Yes. Yeah.
She met John Casablancas at 13. And she doesn't have anything negative. What was his model? Was he elite? He was elite modeling.
Elite modeling. Yeah. And Paulo ran the 1994 elite model look of the year competition in Ebiza. Paulo has known
John Casablanca since he was a teenage boy in Milan. Like they've known each other for a very long time. I sent an article over last night about a 2001
article he did. He talks about how he's courting a young model in Brazil and sending her teddy bears and stuff like that. Amanda would have been 15. Um and
um sending her teddy bears.
Yeah. It's ter it's terrible. like he's no he has no shame. He has no shame at all. And um she [snorts] got into that
world because it went from John Casablances to Jean Luke Brunell to Paulo Zoli to there's another figure
involved Michelle Adam who owns fashion TV. Like it's he's the most disgusting. I mean one of the things you sent me uh we have it
here. Michelle Adam is this this fat gross just sweaty on his yacht, you
know, with the models all over him just this foul human being and you see these young girls and it's nothing good is there.
Yeah, it's distressing. Like I sent a video over of like these videos are still on YouTube which is so crazy to me but I sent over a video last night and
it was like this yacht that Michelle Adam takes. He's like infamous for this yacht. He takes his yacht out. He fills it up with teenage models and his
friends and they sell out into international waters and they go to Turkey or they go to wherever and um they're in international waters.
You can't prosecute in international waters. There's no jurisdiction.
Exactly. And you can see in the videos like it's very obvious that those are not adult girls. Like those are very
young girls. And Amanda's talked about it before and I'm sure she'll when she talks she'll talk much more about it.
But um she's talked about how Paula brought her on that yacht when she was 17 and she was extremely uncomfortable.
Um and but she later she went on to marry this man and have a baby with him. I mean so she at some point loved him, right? I
mean this is this Stockholm Stockholm syndrome. What what do we Yeah. And I think there's like something to be said about like trauma bonds with
grooming, especially when like you groom a child who's like 15 years younger than you and they're in their formative years
and there's so much developmental things that have to happen before they can really think for themselves. And when
8 minutesyou impose your wants and your needs and your desires on them and make them think that it's like up to them to make sure those needs and desires are met, it
completely just warps your brain and it warps your mind. And um I just think I
think anyone who experiences childhood grooming and abuse like that always come
out needing to really do a lot of healing and a lot of work. And I don't think Amanda's really had that opportunity since getting away from
Paulo except, you know, in the brief months that she's been home with her family.
So, uh, where is she is hopped up? When you talk to Amanda Angaro, she blasted Melania Trump on on social like, girl,
you know, uh, I know where the bones are buried. You and I go way back. I spent, you know, every New Year's Eve party,
whatever. So Donald Trump, you know, is very close with Zampoli who introduced Melania and Donald. So this is his wife
9 minutesof 20 years. She spent an enormous amount of time with Melania. And from what I understand, another U reporter
with whom I know you sometimes collaborate, Anthony Andrews said that Melania directly told her, "I am not
going to help you." Like why did she go so cold? And did she think Amanda was just going to take it?
Well, I think and I'll leave a lot of this to Amanda. I'll share what she's given me permission permission to share and shared with me in the past. Um, I
know that Amanda and Melania met for the first time when Amanda was 18 years old on Donald Trump's plane. I believe they
were going from Miami to New York. I could be wrong about where I have I have it in my reporting somewhere, but she met him she met Melania at 18 years old.
So, she was very young. So, she How old was Melania?
Uh, I don't know the age difference between the two. Maybe like 30. Well, yeah. Yeah. She would have been in her 30s.
10 minutesUm, but she that's when she So, she's known Amanda since she was very young.
And, um, she's talked about how, you know, Melania was really loving to her
son. And I think in her moments of desperation even though like you know it
was a long shot I guess she um reached out from her iced detention to a mutual friend who I don't have permission to
name I won't say their name someone who works in Washington um and they a mutual
friend between Amanda and Melania and Amanda reached out to them and they reached out to Melania and Melania told
um directly, no, I don't want anything to do with this. I don't care. And that was communicated back to Amanda. And
that was very hurtful for her. Um especially like knowing that her son's
out at the White House with his dad and at Mara Lago and all these places. Well, we don't know where Paulo is now.
I mean, Paulo is somewhere in international waters. Is Mike because it's starting to heat up on him.
Yeah, he's been out of the US for a little bit. You know, there's um I don't know how much I can or can't say, so I'll keep it kind of brief. Um say more than you than you think.
There's [laughter] there's a docu series. They're on the side of too much.
Okay. There's a docue series that's being made um not in the United States.
It's by a media company called Ray Ri.
They're um owned by Italian stateowned media. and they've been following the Apollo saga for months and months and
months since I started posting on Substack. And um I know that part one of said docue series is coming out sometime
this month. I won't say the date because I'll probably get in trouble for that.
Um but it's coming out and I know Amanda Angaro's uh testified uh extensively in this document. She's in the dock.
12 minutesYeah. As well as a Victoria Drake. And then there is another model who I've been in contact with who um knew Zoli
Jean Bernell um way back in the day in Milan and they're all going to be sitting and talking and it's kind of
like this journalist has been traveling all over the world and collecting interviews and trying to like put the pieces together about like the early
years of Melania and meeting Paulo and like what was actually going on and it is something that Paulo has been trying
to kill for a long time and because like in Italy with this specific company like
the chain of command's just a little bit different like Paulo's trying to kill it and speak to his producer but like this is like stateowned media like if they
say they want it on it's going to he's an upper class Milan you know royalty he's a rich guy from from from
Milan well but before we get to okay I just want to know before we move on to the next thing uh which is Victoria Drake, you've done some incredible
reporting there. Does Amanda Angaro have something up her sleeve that she's going
to hit Melania with? Um, be if Melania doesn't help her, if she isn't helped by this administration to come back and to
have access to her son and and return to this country. Does she have something?
Because she's alluded to the fact that Melania, I got you. and she referred to
Donald Trump, her husband, as a PDF file.
And I think like a lot of that I'll leave to Amanda to share, but she has 20 years of
of information to share. You know what I mean? And um she's seen a lot. She's observed a lot. She was at all these parties with
these men, you know what I mean? Like she knows she knows a lot. And um I don't think I think she doesn't want I
14 minutesthink that why she's like taking a second to breathe right now is cuz she doesn't want to speak with anger. She wants to speak with intention and she doesn't want this to be like do this for
me or you know what I mean or do the right thing. Yeah. Exactly. Just do the right thing.
Exactly. She just wants to like she wants to just tell the truth. She's just tired of like the secrets, the coverups,
the um the putting on a good face and then like the behind the scene everything's falling apart. She's just tired of the lack of transparency and inauthenticity.
Um so I don't I don't I'll leave anything that she plans to say to her. I know that she'll get it all out. Um but she knows a lot. Yeah, she knows a lot.
Okay. to continue on with this uh character Paulo Zampoli who introduced Donald and Melania. He said he was at a fashion event. Donald, Melania, Melania,
Donald, and he leaves. And it's that simple. But since then, uh he has been drafting off the president. Uh he has been in and out of the White House. He's
got phony titles. Um he's just a pig. uh and you know,
but there you've done some reporting about this man that I found absolutely incredible. I've taken my notes.
Victoria Drake, who comes from a a nice family, right? She's um uh quite
beautiful woman. Alleges she was uh drugged and raped in October 2023 by
Paulo at his home. um text exchanges with her friend who contacted you. Yes.
And uh she said, "I reported it all to the NYPD." We're putting up the text exchange right now between uh Victoria and her friend. Look at that.
Um she said she reported it to the NYPD.
She got a rape kit done. Uh the hospital confirmed that she was drugged. The drugs were found in her system. Um, she
got Paulo to admit to it by phone on a voice note. She recorded him admitting that he did this. Uh, the FBI asked her
to wear a wire, but she got this done on her voice note. And then all of a sudden, the case is dropped out of nowhere. Literally, every receipt,
everything you need done, signed, sealed, delivered, jail for life, and then dropped.
Yeah. And for to my understanding, what Victoria was told is due to Paulo's diplomatic status, there's nothing that
they can do and that she should just sue him.
Due to his diplomatic status, which is a total fraud. When did he become When did he get the diplomatic status? Was it in Trump's first administration?
He's been working for the UN since the late 2000s. Is okay. So before Trump, he's finds his way to get one of these things and they hand him out.
Yeah. Yeah. And like um Amanda will talk about uh like the kind of fraud that goes on with the diplomatic passports
and like the UN stuff. It's just real sleazy, really pay to play. He's an ambassador to Dominica. To Dominica from
He's not even from Dominica. He's from Italy, but he's gets handed this ambassador to Dominica thing, which
means you can go and uh you can rape people because you're going to be very hard to prosecute. What a scumbag. Um,
but also like Amanda, when Amanda's through all of this, one one of the things that needs to change and the next president needs
to deliver this is I don't care what ambassadorial thing you hold, you are prosecutable here in this country for any type of sex crime like or any crime.
Every time. I agree. And it's like also it's really crazy to me because the um his diplomatic home that he like lives
in his diplomatic residence he in Grammar City Park. Is this the one in New York?
Yes. Yes. Yes. That was that's where and there's a sign on the door that says diplomatic residence. Uh you know this you basically I'm immune.
Yeah. Yeah. I can do whatever I want.
And he has like audio and video recording everywhere. And if I sent this over also, but um he rents out those rooms as well.
He's like an Airbnb this guy. He's such a scumbag.
It's like is that even legal for when you have diplomatic immunity? Is that even that doesn't seem like a very safe thing for a tenant to be in a place
where you can't be held to account for anything. You know what I mean?
So, Victoria Drake alleges she was drugged and raped October 2023. She had the heads up to to take photographs of
her the bruises on her arms and herself in in the she had no recollection of what what was going on. She takes
pictures inside Paulo's apartment, the whole thing. And then a voice comes on the security system and says, "Okay, you know, uh, thank you." She obviously
watching her under surveillance and a voice, you know,
19 minutesasks her a few questions and then she's allowed to leave.
Uh that guy is a she had no clothes and they brought her like that in the picture that I sent you.
She had no clothes and brought her something to to wear to to to leave. And that's this guy that you tracked down through all kinds amazing reporting.
Fabitio Pereira, his his security guy or no his apartment manager, his property manager.
It's he's he's an um he's also another figure who I've like really tried to like dive into because with any like
network like this they it's never one person. It's never one person. It's always a group of people who have to agree, okay, this is what we're doing.
Um, and for Fabricio to handle that situation with such ease, as Victoria has stated,
knowing that his diplomat is going to be just fine because he's protected by the UN to rape people. What is Victoria
Drake doing with this? She's got receipts from the police of uh from the hospital
who con showed her the toxicology report that she had drugs, you know. um sedation drugs in her. She's got all of
this stuff. So, literally the only thing that happened is that it was dropped because we'll have to Well, someone will
have to explain, but she's got everything here. What is she going to do next? I mean, she comes from a decent family. Does she have money to get a
massively powerful lawyer to Yes. and like she has she has an attorney and um she she is going to talk
to media and like I said she talked to the journalists for the docu series and gave her testimony. Um but I think she
she really just wants to like get her story out there and like make people aware of it. And I think it's been
really hard for her because since this has happened, she's dealt with kind of like non-stop harassment from Paulo in
his camp. And like when he was in Hungary with JD Vance, he was calling Victoria repeatedly at 3:00 in the
morning. If I didn't Yeah. While he was with JD Van, he was calling her repeatedly till she answered the phone. And she recorded the phone
call. Finally answered and got her dad to record it. And they recorded the phone call. and I think she leaked a little bit of it on her social media.
Um, but she recorded the phone call of him trying to get her to settle for silence and not speak um and stop telling her story.
Where did she do it? On X or or uh on TikTok. Okay.
Um if it's still up there. Yeah, it's um it I think it's like a call.
Um and um yeah, it's just he's desperate.
He's desperate and he's been growing increasingly kind of like hostile and agitated over like the last month or so as like the docue series um comes to
fruition and just as things start to heat up, he's just getting increasingly nervous. He's really freaking out about
Victoria's story coming out publicly for some reason. I don't know why he's not as well. All the evidence is there. Yeah.
And that's true. And it's just like to me it's just like interesting to me how his brain works where it's like, you know, your your mother of your child is
like evidence that you were in a relationship with a teenager, you know.
But I mean, I don't know. I just think I just think he is so his head is so in the wrong place
and he's panicking and I think he knows when the Trump train's over what's left.
Do you know what I mean? Like, and Donald Trump doesn't like maintain longterm friendships for like 30 plus years very often, but he's had Paulo attached to his head since like the '9s.
Like, they've done everything together. They did the modeling agencies together. They did the real estate together, everything together, like everything.
And like, someone has some something on someone.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Forget this diplomatic status or whatever. Get the the best lawyers in the world. And let me tell
you something. If you get Paulo Zampoli and he's looking at the rest of his life in jail, this big overcoloned stinkbot pimp is going to sing like a canary.
Oh yeah.
And everything that Donald Trump has ever done with Paulo Zoli is coming right out. And that's what I keep saying and that's why I've been like pushing
like since July 2025 I've been talking about this and I keep saying like Palis and Pulley is not someone who has been sat and trained by an attorney how to
say how to use protective language how to say things that won't implicate you.
He's not Bill Gates. He's not Bill Clinton. He's a career modeling agent.
Like he is going to fold under pressure as soon as it's placed upon him. But it's got to be placed upon him. You know what I mean? It's just this gross world.
This just this underworld of Paulo Zampoli and Jeanluke Brunell and John
Casablancas and Michelle Adam and uh and you've got others in there. Uh oh my
god. Oh my god. Antoine Verlos or Vergl the Victoria Secret photographer. His
email to Jeffrey Epstein. In the subject of the email, it says, "Scopalamine,
powerful drug growing in the forests of Colombia that eliminates free will." Jeffrey,
I need to tell you about Scopalamine, a a powerful drug growing in the forest of Colombia that eliminates free will. We can incapacitate models,
right? Like they're insult them. Yay, Antoine, you piece of [ __ ]
All these people though and the fact that these are the people in Trump's universe back then and this is like how did how has this happened? How have we let America be infiltrated like this?
Wake the f up.
And Antoine Verlos is the photographer who did Melania's infamous like naked photo shoot in the plane. That's the same photographer.
Really? Yes. And Trump allowed that,
I So there's pictures of them together and there's pictures of him in Paulo's house fairly recently just like there's pictures of many of
like Jeffrey's once victims turned co-conspirators in his house.
Yeah, that's his thing. After he abuses them, he offers them great positions and money to be Come to the UN. Come to the UN. It's like what's going on in the UN?
Oh my god, it's just outrageous. Anyway,
there's so much here. I have to say your work is incredible. Yo, I appreciate that.
What should Is there anything missing that's so pressing before we go?
26 minutesUm, I think like just in general, this is just like uh a story that more people need to like pay attention to because
like there's no reason this man needs to be in the administration. And the fact that he's still in the administration and so close to the highest office is
very it's very disturbing. And Oh, you're talking about Paulo. I thought you were talking about Donnie.
[laughter]
No, I was talking about Paulo. I mean, both. I mean, I It applies to both. Oh, it's so gross.
Yeah. But I I um I appreciate you guys listening and it's nice to have, you know, people pick up on like what I've
been putting down for a little while because I feel like I've been screaming into a void a little bit and I feel like people are listening and I think, you know, real change can be made when this story is really dissected.
I hear you. I see you. I follow you. Uh and you should too, folks. Um, she's on
Tik Tok, Becca Day. Be b K A H Day. Her work is just off the charts. Nobody.
There's a one. You're you're a staff of 20 wrapped up in one person. [laughter]
I guess that's I guess that's a great way to look at it.
Thank you so much. Stay in touch. We'll stay in touch. Thank you so much. Have a great day.

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Inside the Allegations Surrounding Paolo Zampolli, Melania Trump, and Jeffrey Epstein
Tara Palmeri
Apr 13, 2026

Tara calls in to break down the Amanda Ungaro story — the Brazilian-born model and mother of Paolo Zampolli's child who was deported by ICE, allegedly at Paolo's request, in the middle of a custody battle. Tara and her co-host, V Spehar of Under the Desk News - go deep on how Amanda's story connects directly to the Epstein-modeling pipeline: Paolo's rivalry and friendship with Epstein, the visa system that kept women trapped, the photographer Antoine Verglas who shot Melania's most iconic photos and stayed close to Epstein, and what Amanda says about Melania's role in that world.



Transcript

Tara, I'm so glad that you're here. Coming to us live from Italy right now. Yeah.
How's it going? Because there's even more the the fuckery abounds. Like now now we've got updates from the Epstein
side of the universe uh involving Amanda Angaro who is the partner of Paulo Zampoli who is a current member of the Trump administration and he recently had her the mother of his child deported.
Exactly. and V and I actually have been in touch with Amanda for a while through one of her reps. Um I I've met Amanda
many times. I know Paulo I've known Paulo since I was 22 years old when I wrote for Page Six.
Um I've been to Chipriani and seen him there many times where he had a standing uh table and I've been I went to his
townhouse actually as soon as the Epstein story broke. I thought, who would know about Jeffrey Epstein, Paulo?
Because Paulo had a rival modeling agency, um, ID Models, which is how he allegedly recruited Melania at the old age of 26 as a model.
That is old for models. Um, and brought her over to the US and secured her a visa, an Einstein visa. Um, that is the story as it goes. and he, you know,
introduced her to Donald Trump as he says and he's willing to testify about it because it's been disputed so frequently. But, um, you know, Paulo and
Epstein, they weren't like they were competitors,
but they were fremies. They almost bought a a modeling agency together, uh,
elite modeling agency. They thought about uh getting in on that one and buying it. And from for them, the modeling wasn't about the art, the
fashion. It was about access to women and visas and controlling through visas.
And we know that Am Amanda has said that uh Paulo,
you know, targeted her in at 15 um and Brazil. They were from Brazil and that they were in a relationship for decades.
We know that. I I met saw them at, you know, White House events. I saw them they've taken pictures.
Yes. An ambassador to Granada when she was an ambassador to the Dominican Republic. And actually, that's not uh
Amanda actually on the left. That's the new girlfriend.
That's the new girlfriend. There's that's Amanda on the right. Um, you know, she she and Virginia are about the
same age. Uh, and I I had a lot of, you know, questions for her about Virginia because obviously Virginia is not alive anymore.
Um, and um, you know, they're she's 40,
they have a baby together, and she sadly got deported. Um, and the New York Times is reporting that she alleges that it was Paulo that picked up the phone.
That's the guy on the right. Scary looking dude. Um, and uh and and asked Ice to deport the mother of his child,
not his wife, mother of a child so that he could win this long custody battle.
I've actually met their child before. It looks He looks like a little Paulo. I'm not going to lie. But it's just like How old is this child?
I think he's 12 now. I think I met him last when he was seven. Yeah. But the I I remember seeing them I think even last year together at a White House
correspondence event. Um I wrote this piece actually about how like Paulo had just like by the time the Trump
administration was over and he was on the Kennedy Center board and then the Biden administration switched over,
everyone had just had it with Paulo and his in his lifestyle like his hard partying kind of like New Yorker lifestyle with the bottles and the
models in Washington. It's just very considered go in Washington DC. And I wrote about this for Politico and um you know
this was just who he was like this is what he was about and this is the world that Melania came into and I think this is why there are so many questions
especially when you start to realize how frequently Paulo is mentioned in the Epstein files you know how closely they were intertwined. Um there are a lot of
just questions around you know what exactly were these models doing? Some of them not tall enough to
be models. You know that some of them much too old to be models. Some of them much too old to be models.
Some of them taking photos which is not something that they typically want runway models doing.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you the thing about a runway, there's, you know, there's commercial models that you see on TV and in ma magazines, not like high fashion
magazines, but like, you know, they sell Crest toothpaste or something like that. They're kind of more commercial models,
but like the type of models that they were going for, these were women that were like posing nude like Melania did for a long time. I mean, her when she
was found on the map, it was through this guy Antoine Bearloss, this French photographer who we've talked about before. uh he he photographed her 11
times mostly in the nude and he put her on the map and he continued to take photographs of Epste's girls for him um
after Epste spent time in jail. So, like there's a big inter and we and the creepiest part is the exchange in those
emails um about this drug scopalylene that comes from a trumpet plant that Epstein would would grow and ask his
staff specifically about these plants and he denies that he knows anything about this dangerous drug that turns people into zombies and makes them completely devoid of free will. But if
you think about it, if you were running a sex trafficking operation, like wouldn't that be exactly the kind of drug you could use and would be helpful?
But I remember that like Paulo when I first interviewed him about Jeffrey, he said, "Oh, Jeffrey's girls were everywhere.
They were constantly recruiting in New York to the point where we just called them Jeffrey's girls." And yeah, and Audriana Ross, you know, uh we know that
we know that um Amanda knows her very well and Audriana was one of Epstein's like assistant recruiter victims. They all kind of fall in the same bucket now.
And and Amanda has said she's a a victim of Epstein as well. And she was on his plane at 16 years old when she was being
repres disgusting agent who was Epstein's
partner at get this MC squared. MC Squared. What does that stand for?
Einstein's Theory. And what kind of visas do these girls get? The Einstein visa. Visas. It's a little
Who were they in with back then then? Is this like a Bush thing? Like how were they getting these visas? Who was their government?
She met Clinton. Like it goes all the way back. Clinton. Yeah. Even further. Yeah, of course. She she she met all of these people.
She's met John Kerry. She's met Clinton.
She said that Paulo would bring Glenn Maxwell to multiple UN events when she was basically a pariah for being so closely associated with a pedophile.
That was until high society let Epstein back in with open arms. But um you know it this is this world that she
understands the network the modeling network.
It is I mean I just sent a picture to um one of the producers. Abby, if you could throw it up shows you how young um they were very young.
Amanda Watts. No, that's her older older. That's not her. That's her on the right. I mean look at this girl. Yeah. She's super young.
A child. Mhm. Yeah. And a Getty photo. I mean, um, and you know, it it's just she and she
remained very close with the Trumps. I mean, it's true on the inaug at the inauguration, you know, Melania gets to bring one of her guests and it was always Paulo. Paulo threw an
inauguration party. I went to it actually for the first one. Um, and he remained very close to U.
Melania. And you know, Amanda has said that Paulo would h she's saying a lot of stuff.
She's saying a lot of stuff. Here's the thing.
Tara and I have lawyers. We don't have those kind of lawyers. I want everybody to be watching, reading what Amanda is
saying that we can't today repeat. We were hopeful that she was going to be able to be with us today. She's been doing a lot of press. She was exhausted today. So, as soon as she feels better,
we'll have her on so she can say it in her own words. But there are some allegations that Melania was doing a little more than modeling for these
folks. And that we'll we'll get into that when we can because I think the important part right now is that Amanda is showing such incredible bravery even
after being detained by ICE, deported back to Brazil, separated from her child, and even at this point is showing such bravery to try and hold
accountability for Zoli, who is a massively powerful person. He was just in Iran or no, he's in where was he? He
was in Iran negotiating with He's like with JD Vance out here. He's everywhere.
He had very much very much into this world. I have a question for you. You said earlier that the first time that you met Paulo Zenoli
was when you were 22s, you were the age of some of his victims if like peer level with them.
How did it feel like you being on the outside? Did you try to like be like girls like get out of here?
Well, it was different. I had to be It was different because here's the thing. I was scary. I was a reporter for Page Six,
right?
I was a 22-year-old with a very powerful pen. I wrote for the hottest gossip column in town. And my boss was Richard
Johnson, the legendary, you know, page six columnist. Like I knew what he was about, models and bottles, right?
But you know, Paulo wanted to be in page six. He wanted to be in these pages in page, right?
And he wanted to be the cool guy. And um you know that when you have that you're
not like I've thought about that a lot in my career like I've been really lucky because I think that I had that power of
the pen which like protected me like you know I said that to you like sometimes I've get like creepy vibes from people and I'm like just got that creepy vibe from them but they would never like cross that line,
10 minutesright? Do you know what I mean? Terrifying about a reporter.
You know what I mean? you just um and and also that's not like I'm not a 16-year-old. I'm not st like not to say
a 16-year-old is stupid, but I'm I couldn't be like right. You were an adult woman, right?
I was an adult woman with a career with a job, college degree, selfrespect. Like,
I just saw him for what he was, a foolish old man who was trying to extend his childhood for a very long time. Did I think he was trafficking these girls?
You know, if I had that tip in my head and I they looked young, but I looked young men then. I don't know. You know what I mean? It was like and and you're
in nightclubs and they were always models and and actresses and seemed fun. Yeah.
It was just the way it was. And they seemed fine. I mean, until like I mean,
I wasn't there until 4 in the morning when everyone was blacked out. But I understood this world. I got what it was. And the guys who own the clubs, who
were like equally my sources, um they they they wanted like attractive women in the club. So they wanted the modeling
agents like Paulo to bring the girls in and he would they used to hire them at the restaurant constantly. This was my job as an event planner at Be Our Guest Restaurant.
Steve Hansen featured very often in the Epstein files. And now in a new video of Steve getting a pedicure with Epstein and goofing off, which if you would have ever told me Steve Hansen got pedicures,
I would have been like, "No way." He was one of the most intimidating um successful restaurant tours of the time.
It was like if you worked at Be Our Guest, you could write your ticket to anywhere because it was so incredibly strict to work there and the training was outstanding and the restaurants were phenomenal. I know. Yeah.
And we would do the Saturday Night Live after parties or if we were opening a new restaurant, we would call these people Zoli or whoever elite models and
be like, "We need 12 girls tonight and we're they're going to hand out champagne." So that when Tara from page six, not you specifically, but maybe we
crossed over. He would write about be our guest. I remember it. Yeah. We'd come in and, you know, be like,
"Wow, every single one of the waiters is beautiful." And it was a wonderful night and it was their job to like get the party going or or make sure that people were dancing. The dance floors look full
at the clubs. The bars look full at the clubs. It was the most beautiful place,
the dosamino openings, all of this. And then we did it in Las Vegas as well. And it it I go back in my work history to
and talk to my cousin who was the general manager at Ocean Grill at the time and be like, "Did we know?" And she's like, "We did not know. This was
very normal to hire models because we're having a media night. We're having a whatever night. We had no idea what they were doing. Nothing bad ever happened
inside the restaurant while we were at work. It's what these girls endured outside of maybe the restaurant job was like a good job for them and maybe there were other jobs that weren't so good or stuff that was going on in the after.
Like here's something that people never talk about. like there and this one of my girlfriends actually works in fashion and she was explaining it to me and she was like hundreds of girls show up for
these casting calls. They pick maybe five to 10. Most models don't make any money and most of them don't really make it and like and for some of them
especially the ones that come from like poor countries like Eastern Europe or you know Russia or even Brazil. It's
like like Amanda's mother like didn't know that she was being groomed, but she also hoped her daughter would have a better life in America, right? And and
so I think that their hopes and dreams that the modeling world will either introduce them to a man that can save
them or give them a life in America or maybe one day they'll become a successful model. But the truth is that the most successful models are often Nepo babies. I mean, let's just be
honest. like or they come from like some sort of connection to the fashion world. Um because children, right?
Yeah. There's Yeah. And the girls that don't make it in modeling become cater waiters and that's where we hired them from. This is like the world that you exist in. It becomes very or they end up in like and some of them,
especially the ones who don't have even access to their visas or their own passports because they're taken away from them. They live in these modeling dorms. I mean, I didn't personally like
ever kind of see that like in like I mean, I saw them. I got to know them.
14 minutesLike I knew guys that like I just I knew that world because I had to be around it. But I didn't like it wasn't like anyone was like coming to me being like,
"Hey, 23-year-old girl, like 22-year-old girl who writes about uh you know, they
were save me from my like old man boyfriend with the man boobs I have to sleep with every night because that's
the only way for me to live in New York." And I'm just like I wish I knew cuz like now I'm like a rabid feminist and I would have probably like
tried to like create like some sort of way to take them out of that situation.
But I don't know. I guess I just thought that was the way that it was and I feel almost terrible about it now. Aunt Jen
points out also pharmaceutical sales reps the same thing like this idea of hiring models to do this like you know
society work in terms of convincing doctors because we used to host those dinners where a pharmaceutical sales rep would come in and I was like I've never seen a sales rep that's like 61 and like
looks like a model but they would come in to like sell doctors on writing prescriptions for Oxycottton and stuff.
There's there are layers and layers and layers and layers of corruption that were going on that are now better exposed by the fact that we know better so we can do better. But going back to
Amanda for a quick second here. Do we think that, you know, I'm very inspired by what happened with Congressman
Swallwell this past weekend. If he can get taken down by a kindergarten teacher that maybe
Paulo Zampoli and this Epstein class can be taken down by a girl who had a dream to be a model. Like I think that there
is maybe more trust in regular people up against power structures in this generation than there's ever been. And so I have hope for it. But do you want
to talk about Swallwell? Yeah, we can talk about Swallwell. I'm happy to. The difference between Swallwell though and EP uh Trump right now is that Trump has
the power to get ICE to take to deport you back to Brazil and make sure you never see your son again. Like that is the difference. Swallwell is in the
minority a Democrat and they are ready to like throw his ass out and they have which they should have. And honestly like I had been
I had I had a feeling about Swallow. I didn't have any just random interactions. I was like,
you remember you and I were talking about this and I was like, shit's going to go down. Like that guy just to I can smell trouble. Like it is now.
Yes, I know exactly who's good. The benefit of being a butch lesbian is that men talk to me the way they talk to other men sometimes and they like they
don't accept that I that like I would of course side with women. So there are often times that awful men will be like
and I'm like, "Yeah, okay." Okay. And then I immediately am going to go and tell her because I'm a girl's girl. But there are there are people I could tell exactly right away if they're going to
be a creep or a bad guy. For sure. And you had that feeling about him, too.
Yeah. Just from like the like the few interactions I had with him. I was just like something smells off. I couldn't put my finger on it. We did start get we we
started to get tips like everyone did. I started to report it out like everyone did. Um unfortunately like I wish the Terara Paul Mary show had the bandwidth
to be like on everybody's ass. Um but you know we started reporting it and it got out which I'm happy that it did. I
did not know about rape allegations like that I did not know about. No and in fact that didn't come until you know the CNN interview where somebody was willing to say that.
I mean that was and then now we have video and it's like that's what it takes in this town in this time. Um, and there's so much more in the Epstein
story that I've been digging into that I just like need, you know, hopefully, you know, it just it just takes a lot to do
investigative work. And for the reason that we have right now, I mean, we are going to continue reporting on what Amanda has told us.
Um, and if we can get, you know,
responses from Melania and Paulo, you know, V and I will will come back to you and give you that information. um and
and try to get it to you as quickly as we can. Um it's uh important for people to know. I think it would explain, you
know, why the first lady came out Yeah. Yeah, it would. And I mean, Amanda remembers meeting her for the first time
when um she was 18 on a plane um on Trump's plane from Miami to New York.
And I I'm just going to give you like some of the bits that you know she's told us that are consistent with what I Abby, do we have a picture of what
Melania looked like when she first came here with Trump? Because I think when we picture the first lady we picture as what she's become, but if you look at
her from that period of time, I think it paints a better picture of where she was at mentally and and status and society
wise and why she maybe would have turned on the girls the way that she did once she got out of what she figured.
You know, she thinks that she's very much above some of the girls that she came in with at the Oh, yeah. She did not care. Amanda said that when she got deported, she said
Melania said it tough. She because Melania Amanda who had known her for decades tried to reach out to her.
Yeah. And she was like too bad. Like I'm above this. But this is not, you know,
this is not um like we've said a mall girl,
which we might say in Jersey. She's a mall girl.
She's a mall girl. So there I just think it's good for people to understand what Melania looked at the time. The the social climbing that she was seeking to do, the way she came in with Donald.
Donald had an obsession with uh casting his next wife as someone who could be the first lady. He had dreams of being the president at a time and he was trying out different women.
She actually looked better in that phase.
She looked better there, but she defining
her looks. I want you to see where she came from versus where she has established in the fact that she very much does not want people to know that
this is where she came in from because she rejects all the other women who are sort of down on their luck in a certain way or haven't achieved the status that
he has. She wants to present that she was always this dignified, you know,
society girl and that's just quite simply not true. No, there was a lot actually. Donald Trump spent a lot of time and
curated and she speaks very carefully because of him. She speaks like as if because he
had long wanted to be president of the United States. So her accent is manufactured by him and if you look at the way she talked when she first came here, she had a much easier
American. She spoke much much more Americanized than she does now where it seems Yeah. I think that she sounds a lot more New York than she did now when
she talks. It's like she could barely find the word. She's like hilaria Baldwin all of a sudden. She's like,
"What do you call what do you call a cucumber?" Like she has no idea, you know?
But going back to this time is just different. Yeah. Another And now that's a whole other story. But I I just I
think it it helps me as a person to to remember what she was like at that time. She was also at my college graduation,
which was a whole other insane thing. He was the speaker. Wait, what?
Donald Trump was our uh commencement speaker for Wagner College 2004 and he had just really started dating her. I believe they were engaged at that time and he like made a show of like wanting
her to like parade past. She was much more willing to be a trophy showoff than she is now. And I remember thinking it was weird back then. And I remember
thinking how young she was compared to him back then even. I was like, "Oh, weird."
Yeah. Yeah. I mean I I I used to see her out in in town and Yes. She's and even the person that she the way she dressed
when she was in she's always wearing a costume. Like she's a role. It's a costume.
Yeah. She's always wearing a costume. I think she dresses impeccably now. I mean her suits, she's always wearing like a beautiful Dior suit. She looks classic.
Um I I will give it to her at But she's never going back. And there's something I understand about never going
back. And I I just want people to remember that this is not a person who came from a royal family and has always
22 minutesbeen at the level that she's at now. She came from the place where a lot of girls who, you know,
it's a tough place. Sometimes you're just trying to make it for yourself. And she will never go back. And so she doesn't want to be associated with Amanda or the Epstein people. She thinks
they're low class. She thinks she's above them. And she doesn't want to re be reminded that that's actually your peer class of solidarity. the people you should be looking out for, the people you should have brought up with you.
And she doesn't she does not want to hear that or be a part of that. And that's and for that reason, she should testify on the hill. Yeah.
Because she probably has a better understanding of the Epstein C circle than anyone else whether she wants to
admit it or not because it's so the modeling world and the Epstein world are so intertwined. In fact, so one of um
Epstein's assistants, oh, his girlfriend, excuse me, when she was having visa problems, um he turned to the photographer,
Antoine Baragos, who put her on the map,
the one who took that famous picture of her naked um on Trump's plane and to get to have him help with the the visa problems. This was just the thing these
guys did. And you had they controlled you. You had to stay in their good graces as long as as long as you did not
have a green card as long as you did not have, you know, a US citizenship. And
even Amanda, like all these years, Paulo controlled her essentially because she never got the green card. That's how she was able to be deported.
Oh, she all this time still didn't. No, she never had a green card.

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She Was Drugged, Raped, and Got Him on Tape. Paolo Zampolli -The Investigation Is Still Open.
Scott Michael Nathan
Apr 24 2026

Victoria Drake says she was drugged and sexually assaulted by Paolo Zampolli — Trump's Special Envoy, the man who introduced Donald and Melania Trump, a fixture at Mar-a-Lago — in October 2023 at his diplomatic residence in New York City.
She went to the hospital that night. She underwent a rape kit. Tests confirmed drugs in her system. Her injuries were medically documented. She got him on tape. She did everything right.

While traveling with JD Vance in Hungary, he was reportedly calling her at 3am.
This is her story, in her own words — and she's not done talking.
Paolo Zampolli is Trump's Special Envoy. He sits on the Board of Trustees of the Kennedy Center. He has the president's ear and a decades-long friendship with the First Lady. His former partner Amanda Ungaro was reportedly detained by ICE at his request. His modeling agency has been linked to Jeffrey Epstein's network.
Victoria Drake is still here. Still talking. Watch and share.
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Transcript

So there's we're in the living room and there's like it's like very big living room but it's
like super empty and then there's just like one table and a couch and two chairs and like
all over the table like I am not kidding you it was everywhere. Um, cocaine all over the table.
Bad decisions. Bad decisions.
Welcome back to the Bad Decisions podcast where we lead not with celebrity but with story. My next guest is Victoria Drake. Victoria is a businesswoman from rural Illinois who became a
well-known fixture at Mara Lago and an insider at the levels of global power. Victoria says she was
drugged, raped, stripped of her clothing and belongings and imprisoned by Trump appointed ambassador Paulo Zampoli, the man who claims to have introduced Donald and Melania, the
1 minuteman who spent New Year's Eve at Mara Lago at the president's table. She went to the hospital. She
got the rape kit done. Test confirmed drugs in her system. Her injuries are well documented. She even
got Zampoli on tape with NYPD's special victims unit and the case was dropped anyway because
Zampoli claimed diplomatic immunity. While he was traveling with Vice President JD Vance aboard Air
Force 2, he was reportedly desperately blowing up Victoria's phone at 3:00 a.m. Paulo Zampoli,
the man who has the president's ear. The man meeting with world leaders is accused of rape and the fix might be in. Victoria Drake is unafraid. She's still here and she's refusing to give up.
Victoria, welcome to the Bad Decisions podcast. Hi, thank you guys so much for having me. Um,
it's just really important that I get my story out and um, really appreciate the opportunity
to have a platform to do so and I appreciate you coming on. So, let's just start at the
beginning. How did a small town girl from rural Illinois end up at Mara Lago in the first place?
Yeah. So, essentially, um, for whatever reason, pretty much everybody I've ever dated, um,
they've always been, you know, very influential. They've always been pretty wealthy. Um, I dated a
guy all throughout through the end of high school, all throughout college. And then we did end up
getting married. His dad um, owned a very large bank um, which had branches all over the country.
Um, so that kind of initially propelled me into this atmosphere and like I I was young and naive.
Like I didn't even know like what money was, what influence that money could hold over people. Um,
just the whole social atmosphere since I was so young. And so, like I said, we did end up getting
married. We were married for about 11 months. Um, I got married when I was 23 and I just decided,
you know, this is not going to work out for me. Um, and at this point in time, I was living in Kentucky when he was going to grad school. He was becoming a periodonal surgeon. So, it was going
to be a long time that I had to stay in Kentucky and Kentucky is just not the place for me. Um,
so after that, I did move to Chicago. Um, about several months after our divorce was finalized,
I did end up dating the son of a billionaire. Um, and a lot of people say, you know, a lot
of people have this like idea that billionaires are all bad. Billionaires are not all bad. I have
absolutely nothing but good things to say about his family. They're wonderful. Um, but that is
how I got into the Mara Lago scene. So, the first time, um, you know, we went on a date, everything
like our first date was literally at Trump Tower. And like looking back, his dad literally told me,
he's like, "Yeah." He uses this as a way to see if you're going to be super liberal. Um if you if
you agree to go on the date at Trump Tower, that's like the first threshold that you kind of have to
cross. Um so made it cross the threshold. We had that date. Um and then I got to know his family
fairly well and very very soon actually within like the first couple weeks of us dating. Um,
so we made it official around August of 2019. Um, from August to December of 2019,
I was constantly going to different events. Um, you know, very social elite events. I remember the
first event that I went to was like the release of the new KXI car model. Um, so here we have
like a multi-million dollar car and um, I I didn't know anything about cars. Like I drive an Audi. I
I just I was like I don't know what's going on here. But um so it was it was definitely a very
different world. Um and then about 2 months in I ended up, you know, I flew on their private jet.
Um I it was it like you said earlier, you know, I'm from rural Illinois. Um, I had never been on
a private jet, so it was a totally different world for me. Um, being able to have access
to these people and just be involved in their inner circle, it was it was pretty crazy. Um,
so from August to December of 2019, like I said, just constant events. Um, but then the first time
that I attended Mara Lago was December of 2019 and that was for the New Year's Eve party. Um,
so I had flown down to his family's place which is in the Palm Beach area and we were staying there.
Um, and so that was the first time I attended. And at this given point in time, I'm a huge
Trump supporter. Um, I I did vote for him multiple times. And the reason why I first voted for him,
you know, I was young, I was naive, I was straight out of college. Like my parents were like, "Okay, you should vote for him." So I did. And the second time it was kind of like I just at this
point in time, I'm like, "Okay, I'm surrounding myself with these people. I'm constantly at Mara Lago. I should probably vote for him." Um, but I didn't do my research to be honest. And I really
haven't started doing a lot of political research up until just like the past year or so. And now I
understand like the gravity of the decision that I made to vote for him. So you me yeah when we spoke
you mentioned that you voted for him three times. Um you've partially answered this but my question
is what drew you to Donald Trump in the first place and when did you become become Let me repeat
that you mentioned that you voted for Donald Trump three times. What drew you to him and when did you
begin to become disillusioned and why? So, like I said, um the first time I voted for him, like
fresh out of college, it was my first time voting. And the reason why I voted for him was essentially because my parents were like, "Oh, this would be great. You should totally vote for him." Um,
and that's why I did so. And then the second time it was when I was still with this person,
constantly attending Mara Lago. And so this is something interesting about our voting data like
okay one I did not do my research two um our voting data is mainly managed off of it's an
onsite server in Frankfurt Germany. Why that's the case I don't know but um everything that we vote
through with um any electronic voting system especially Dominion voting systems they are
managed in Frankfurt Germany um with the servers. So, at that point in time, I wasn't sure if I
wanted to vote for him. Um, but again, like when you're so heavily involved with these people, like
it comes to a point where you're like, "Oh, if I don't vote for him, am I going to get in trouble?"
Like, um, so that was that was mainly my thought process. And I wish that I didn't vote for him,
but I I also I am Republican and I just did not see Kamla as a viable option. I did not see Joe
Biden as a viable option. So I get it. I'm without judgment. I'm just trying to just trying to get to
know you a little bit. Um so you mentioned that you first met Paulo Zoli at Zero Bond. You said
he approached you because he'd seen you around Mara Lago. Tell me about that first encounter. Yeah. So, I was in New York um and I was there. One of my friends was supposed to get married
that weekend in Spain. Um unfortunately, her ex- fiance cheated on her and so I and a couple other
of my friends, we hosted this breakup party. Um so I flew in early and the first night that I met
Pella was on October 5th and so that was I believe it was a Thursday and our friends were coming on
Friday and Saturday. So on October 5th, um I fly in. It's I believe it's around like 8 9:00 and
um I'm staying at my friend Becca's house this night. Um so she was living in Soho at the time.
Um I go to her house, we get ready, we go to zero bond and there's a bunch of junior UN ambassadors
there. So, Becca was a junior UN ambassador and essentially it was a long table and a lot of
people since we didn't get there until relatively late, a lot of people had already left. Um, but at
this point in time there was probably there was two men um about three women and then it was me,
my friend, and then Paulo. He was sitting at the end of the table. So, Paulo comes over and sits
down and like right when I'm walking into Zero Bond, like we lock eyes. Um, and so he definitely
recognized me. I mean, there's not a lot of young people at Mara Lago. There's certainly not a lot
of young blonde women that are 5'10 that wear heels at Mara Lago. Um, so he came down and he
sat next to us and he pulled up a chair and he was like, "Hey, like I I think I recognize you. Um,
do you attend Mara Lago?" And um I was like, "Yeah, I've I've been there, you know, quite a bit over the course of at that point it had been about 4ish, 5ish years that I had been
constantly attending." Um and so we start talking, we start making small talk and he was just we were
kind of just speaking about like in terms of like Donald Trump, he's obviously very obsessed with
Donald Trump and he has 45 like I I know I sent you the photos. He has 45 embroidered right here
on his lapel of every single shirt that he owns. Like, you can't make this up. This is insane. So,
um just very very weird parasocial behavior and to the point where it's an obsession. Um so,
everything is fine. We're just making small talk about like who we know, like our mutual friends, our mutual connections. Um and then everything was like relatively normal, right? like there
was no like alarms sounded like okay. And so Zero Bond was closing early that night and it was like
a private event going on later that night and he's like okay so um everybody's welcome to come back to my place. I live relatively close. Um a lot of people are coming back. There's going to be
like a big afterparty there. And so my friend Becca and I go back to his house. Um and that
is his diplomatic residency in Grammarcy. Um, so we he calls his driver. Either he calls his
driver or he calls like a black SUV. I I don't remember to be honest. Um, so at this point,
the people that do attend his house after Zero Bond, it's me, two male junior UN ambassadors,
they're like late 20s, early 30s, and then me and my friend Becca. So it's just the four of us and
Paulo in the car. And so we go to his diplomatic residence. Um, he is doing a lot of schmugs. Um,
I don't know if I can say that, but you you can absolutely say it. You you you you mentioned
that you'd never seen more cocaine in your life. Describe that setting for me. Yeah. So,
we walk in and so there's we're in the living room and there's like it's like very big living room,
but it's like super empty. And then there's just like one table and a couch and two chairs and like
all over the table. Like I am not kidding you, it was everywhere. Um cocaine all over the table.
And so none of us are participating. None of us do drugs. None of us participate in consuming
any substances like that. Is he is he? And um absolutely. Wow. Over and over and over. Yeah.
Over and over. Um, and I know that I sent you that photo, you know, with his eyes rolled back
in his head. That was post line. Um, and so after that, after he gets his little fix, um, he's like,
"Oh, you guys want a house tour?" And then this is where the two other junior UN ambassadors, the men, they end up leaving. They're like, "Hey, we have to work tomorrow." So my friend Becca and
I like we had already taken off. like we were not concerned about, you know, waking up at like 5:00
a.m. So, he gives Becca and I a house tour. He's walking around, shows us the security post room,
and again, parasocial behavior. He thinks he's the president. On every single room that was
of importance to him, he had a plaque. It was the security post, the ambassador's office, the
situation room. It was just weird. It was insane. And so, that's Yeah. And that's why I started
taking photos because I'm like this is this is insane. Um, and then he leads us to the situation
room, which is his office. And so it's like it's like lit up in red and it's like this plaque that
says the situation room. You open the door, it is a shrine to Donald Trump. I kid you not. Like I'm
talking like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of photos all lining every single corner. Every
single place there is a place for a photo to be. It's him, Donald, Melania. and then also
sometimes Amanda and I believe I did see a photo of him and Jeffrey Epstein. Um I cannot confirm
that but I I believe that I did. It was a lot of very powerful people. Um I would say the photos
spanned from like early to mid 2000s up until like obviously I was there in 2023 so they just they
kept piling up. There was also like gold bricks on his desk like everything was in gold. It was
just unbelievable. So then that's when I'm like, "Okay, I need I need to start taking pictures."
Like this is crazy. Um so, uh after the house tour, you know, it's getting late. A bunch of
our friends are coming in to the following day and me and my friend Becca, we wanted to decorate for
um we wanted to decorate my friend's like suite in the hotel room and everything for her party. So, you know, we're going all out. We're doing the cupcakes. Um, we get like little banners saying
like end of an error, like E R R O R error. Um, so we were just like decorating all day
and then that night when our friends fly in, um, we do go to dinner. Um, and we end up going out.
We go to gospel for a little bit. And I don't I'm not like a big drinker by any means. Um,
and so a lot of my friends I mean everybody's celebrating, right? you know, like a lot of people are kind of getting a little intoxicated and you know, there's nothing wrong with that,
but um I I was pretty much sober. Um, I had like I think two cocktails that whole night and then so
we are at gospel and a lot of my friends and Paulo had been texting me the entire day by the way like
constantly like saying I love you like sir we just had our first actual conversation face to face
yesterday and now you're saying I love you I love you I love you with like emojis and heart emojis
and I'm just what is going on here? Yeah. And so, um, so after we are at Gospel, so we're there for
a little bit. A lot of my friends, you know, they had long travel days. They're like, "Hey, we're like going to go back to our rooms. Like, you guys stay out, do whatever you want." Um,
and so then I'm with just my friend Becca at this point in time. And then Becca goes back to her place. She was not staying at the hotels cuz she lives there and she was going back to Soho. Um, so
at this point in time, I finally, Paulo was still calling me. Like I would say around like 900 p.m.
that day, he started calling me incessantly. And finally, um, when everybody was like going home,
Paulo, I finally pick up. I'm like, "What? Like, what do you want? Like, what's going on here? I told you I was with my friends. Please leave me alone." He's like, "Oh, I'm having an afterparty.
Um, we all went to Kasa Tripani. You should have joined us." And for those of you who don't know,
um, Chibriani is owned by Jeppi Chibriani, Jeppi Chibriani and the Chibriani family. They are very
close friends with Paulo. Um, they're from all from Italy. There's many Chibriani restaurants
all throughout like the world and everything. So he's also obsessed with Juspi Chipriyani. Um,
so they are leaving Chibriani and he's like, "Hey, come over. there's going to be a ton of people
from MIT, Harvard, um a bunch of people from Mara Lago that you know. And at this point in time,
like maybe it's because when I broke up with my ex, he was like, he basically insinuated that I
would never be able to do anything without him. I would never be able to make social connections.
I would never be able to be a part of social circles. And I'm kind of like, okay, that's fine.
I never wanted that to begin with. That is not why I dated you. like I dated you because I actually
liked you. It has nothing to do with that. Like you were the one who pursued me. Um so after that
yeah so it was just like in my head I'm like okay so there's going to be a bunch of people from Mara
Lago that I supposedly know that are going over to his house um for afters after Kasa Triyani. Um
and so I do I say okay you know what a lot of my friends are going home. um I'm happy to come over
for, you know, just a little bit. Excuse me. So, he calls me a car. He picks me up from gospel. Um
and from there, we I go over to his house. There's not a lot of people there. There's really just
there's two men that were like sitting in chairs like on the far opposite side of the room. Like I
said, the living room area was like very very big. And they're so they're sitting in these chairs and
they're they're essentially just like having a conversation amongst themselves and Paulo comes
down and gets me and we're just sitting on the couch and I'm like, "Hey, like where's everybody at?" Like you said that there's going to be a bunch of people from like MIT, Mara Lago, all
these people are going to be here. Where are the people? And I started to get uncomfortable and I was like, you know, maybe I should just leave. And he's like, oh no, no, no. Like I I left early like
um because it's my house. I wanted to make sure that I was here before people showed up. I'm like, "Okay, well, I guess that makes sense." So then he pours me a glass of wine. He's just like,
"Just stay. Just relax. You're very uptight." Um, so then I sit down on the couch. I have about half
a glass of wine. Hang on a second. Did Did he pour the glass? Did he open the wine and pour it
in front of you or did he go to the kitchen? No, he Yeah, he went to the kitchen. Mhm. Fuck. Which
Okay. Looking back, I should have known. But it's like leaving your drink unattended in a bar. You
just don't do it as a pretty or as anyone. Yeah. Sorry. Continue. I just Yeah. And so he comes back
with a glass of wine and I have just about half of a glass. And at this point in time, he's starting
to do the drugs again, you know, line after line after line all over the table. Um, and that's when
I start getting really uncomfortable. But then I black out. and I black out and I I've been roofied
before. I've been roofied two times before. Um I know exactly what it feels like. I did go to the hospital during these times. The first time, luckily, my then boyfriend, it was my freshman
year of college, my then boyfriend was able to get me to the hospital, get me tested, like he took
care of me. And it was we believe the bartender that did that um on a college campus bar. And um
so after like when you have had this experience, it's like you're paralyzed and especially when
you're like pretty much 100% sober and you feel so paralyzed. You can't move your arms, you can't
move your legs, you literally see yourself looking down on your body and you can't talk, you can't
move, but you're very aware of what's happening. And that's the scariest part. like part of me
wishes. I'm like, "Wow, I wish that I don't have these memories, but I do have these memories." And
um so there was it occurred multiple times that he was on top of me. Um I'm not sure if he, you know,
got off inside of me. Um, and I will I will get to that point later, but he it was multiple times
over the course of the entire night. So, I wake up the following morning. Um, he's no longer in the
room. And this this room that I'm in, it's in the basement. And, um, so the basement that I'm in,
there's a pool and then there's two bedrooms. And speaking to Amanda, I have a better idea of the
layout of everything. Um, there's two bedrooms and I was in one of them. It was like the second
22 minutesbedroom on the left and I was locked in there. Um, and I I didn't know where I was. I was so
confused. My clothes were taken, my shoes were taken, my purse was taken, everything was gone.
But luckily So you So you So you woke up naked in a drug haze, locked in a bedroom or a basement?
Um, it was a bedroom in the basement. Okay. So you were locked into the bedroom. Yes. Um,
go on. And so I still am trying to figure out and I have spoke with Amanda where this like kind of
it was like a hidden elevator. Um, so I do have my phone. My phone is on like 1% my phone. I tucked
it under the pillow magically. I I don't know how I did that, but I did find my phone. And
um, so I wake up and then I'm I'm frantic. I'm like I don't know what's going on. and like my phone's on 1%. I don't have a phone charger. I don't have my clothes. I don't have shoes. I
don't have my purse. I don't have anything. And um so I find this elevator. I still to this day
I'm still trying to figure out where this elevator is. Um Amanda suggested that she thought it was
and Amanda never really went down to the basement much because that's where Paula would bring his girls. when he was in a 20-year relationship with Amanda, he would constantly have prostitutes over
and he would have sex with them in that room in the basement. Um, exactly where he brought me. Um,
and she just did as his partner. Well, so she she did leave him. She left him in July of 2023,
and this happened to me in October of 2023. So, um All right. Yeah. So, she did end up leaving him,
but yeah. So, I find this like secret elevator and like I said, Amanda kind of alluded to the fact
that it was like in this laundry room that was connected to this bedroom in the basement. And so,
I take the elevator up. At this point, again, I'm 100% frantic. Um, I think I'm going back up
24 minutesinto his town home. So, the elevator doors open and again, it's like a super weird elevator. Um,
there's naked women all over the elevator. Um, it's very odd. At this point in time,
I'm trying to preserve my phone battery on 1% so I don't take any photos. But right when the
elevator doors open, there's two parents. Like, there's a husband, a wife, and two kids. They
start screaming. I start screaming. I'm like, I am so sorry. I'm like, I don't know where I am.
I'm so sorry. So, I shut the elevator doors. And so, they continue like down the hallway. And I just wait for them. Um, I don't know if they were like leaving down the other elevator or
if they were just going into their apartment. It was just chaos. Um, so I wait for about 10
seconds. I reopen the elevator doors and I walk out of the elevator. Um, I start knocking on doors cuz I'm like, "All right, I need clothes. I need to get out of here as soon as possible." Um,
so I start like the first it was the first door on the right right when I exited the elevator and
nobody answered. So then I go to the second door on the right and I'm so thankful that somebody
answered. He was an elderly gentleman. I would say he was early 70s. Um he gave me clothes. He
gave me food and coffee. Let me charge my phone up until like 10%. Um about in um of
me just like hysterically crying, he's like, "What happened?" And I tell him I was like, "Oh, I was
at Palos and Police." Um, so this man who had been so kind to me, just helped me with everything,
wanted to make sure I was okay. When I mention the name Paulo Zampuli, he physically throws
me out of that apartment, like picks me up off the couch and like tosses me out of the door and says,
"Delete my number out of your phone. Never talk to me again. Never come back here again. I don't want anything to do with Zampuli and his girls." So obviously, this is a regular occurrence,
right? like when he says his hair, it's Yeah, it's it's very evident to me that this is a common
thing that happens. Um, so then when I'm in a So he thought you were a prostitute. Okay. No, but he
see I don't think he thought I was a prostitute. I think that he knows that I'm not. Um, like we
were talking about Ephine. mean. Oh, yeah. Maybe maybe maybe he thought maybe he thought I was a
prostitute or something. I'm not entirely sure cuz I wasn't talking business with him by any means.
Um, so then I'm in the hallway, right? And there's like huge CCTV cameras everywhere, which are
also all throughout his house, which are also all throughout the elevators. And all of the sudden I
start getting spoke to through a camera at the end of the hallway on the left. And to my knowledge,
um, I'm not 100% sure, but it was a man that sounded exactly like Fabricio. Fabricio is
head of his security detail, and Fabricio owns or he doesn't own, but he manages the adjacent condo
complex to Paulo's diplomatic residency. So, this man with a thick Italian accent is and they're are
they seamlessly connected when you look at them from the outside? So, I'll have to send you a
photo. It's It's kind of hard to explain. They are connected, but it's like further back, but there
there is a connection. Um, and so like I'm just trying to get a visual on this. Yeah. And um, so
I'm I'm in this hallway and I start getting spoken to and then all of a sudden Fabricio is yelling at me like in a thick Italian accent like, "How'd you get over there? You need to come back down.
I don't know how you found that elevator. Come back. Come back." Like, and I'm like, "Oh my gosh.
I I could be killed. Like my plan at this point, I was so scared. I was about to just leave my
whole wallet. Like I had a really nice Chanel bag. Like I was about to leave my my purse,
my shoes. I was about to leave everything and just walk out barefoot and call an Uber. Um but then
when they realize that I am there, that is when um I was like, "Okay, I'm just going to play it
off. I'm going to pretend like nothing happened." So, I'm like I'm talking back to him through the
camera and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. Um, I'm super tired. I don't have my contacts in. I don't know what was happening. I just found this elevator. I was trying to leave. You know, I have
friends in town. Like, I have obligations this evening. I really I need to go." And he's like,
"Okay, so you're going to take this elevator and you're going to take it down." Um, and he directed
me to a separate elevator. I do have photos since my phone had been charged to 10%. do have photos of that elevator. So, um, this is going to be pretty important to this conversation. So, in
the elevator, in the upper leftand corner, there's a CCTV camera. Um, in the upper right hand corner,
there is live footage of his pool in the basement. Um, there's also a PC Philippe clock. It's huge,
just like in the background. And then there's also on the upper leftand corner by the camera,
there's naked girls in inner tubes. Um, not everybody's 100% nude. There's a couple girls
um with like, you know, like thong bikini bottoms on and stuff like that. But that's
another important piece of the story that, um, you know, it's kind of like foreshadowing here,
like in terms of what I'm about to tell you soon. Um, and then on the left there's a naked woman. On
the right there's also a photo of a naked woman. And then there's also a plaque that says we are
the oceans. And then Tamar Project. So Paulo Zampoli and Galen Maxwell they started we are
the oceans and Terramar project. So that is I'm just gonna say allegedly um a money laundering and
sex trafficking scheme. It is very big on money laundering. I believe, you can't quote me on this,
but I believe they raised over $40 million. And the amount of money that actually went to their
social cause for this nonprofit was $800. $800 out of over $40 million. So, that's all you're
that's all you're going to give to the the oceans, I guess. Um, so that was pretty insane. And so I
take the elevator down and it takes me into the entrance of his Grammarcy Park home. And so right
when I walk in um out of the elevator, I'm like looking for Paulo. And so at this point in time,
I don't know that the son that Amanda Angaro and Paulo Zenoli have, I don't know that his name is
Giovani. Um I just had seen him around. Um I believe he was like 12 or 13 at this time. and
he's just sitting there in his like gaming chair like playing video games, you know, has his AirPod Maxes on. He's just like dialed in. And I like knock on the door even though it's open. I'm like,
"Hey, do you know where your dad is?" And he just like looks at me with like just complete disdain.
Like he's clearly sick of his dad's shit. Like it was it was I I will never forget that look
that he gave me. It was It was really sad. Paulo comes down. I don't know where he like just walked
in the room from. Um, and I guess to backtrack for a second. So, when I was in the hallway,
um, after Fabricio had spoke to me through the cameras, I get a text and as we know, he can't
form a coherent sentence. Everything has typos, no punctuation. So, he goes, "Bab period R period U
K." I didn't respond. Um, so I take the elevator down and then that's when I interact with Giovani
and um, so then Paulo goes, "We need to have a conversation." I'm like, "Okay, that's fine." Like
I I have plans this evening, you know. Um, I was just like, "I had a great time with you." Um, I
was just trying to at this point I was just trying to get out of there as soon as I could. So I said, "I had a great time with you. Can you please give me like my dress and my shoes and my purse back?
um I have obligations, you know, I'm here visiting my friends. And he's like, "Yeah, yeah. Let's just
go have a conversation first." So, we go back down to the bedroom by the pool where he typically had
brought like his prostitutes when he was with Amanda. And he brings me back into the bedroom
where everything happened. And he like he starts like tapping the bed like with his hand and he's
like, "Sit down. Sit down." And I'm just like, "Shit, this is going to happen all over again. um I'm going to be, you know, locked in this room again. Why am I back in this room? Um but I didn't
want to push it and be like, "No, let's have a conversation here." But yeah, so he brought me back into the room. And so I sit down on the bed and he's sitting on the bed and we're just like
talking and he's like, "Oh, like he's visibly sweating. Like he is visibly like shaking,
weating, like he's not okay." Um and he's like, "Oh, did you have a good time last night?" And I'm
like, "Yeah, yeah, everything's fine. you know, I I have dinner with my friends here soon. Like,
I have to go. Um, so he did ultimately end up giving me my clothes back, my shoes,
my purse and everything. Um, I take off his the other person, the elderly gentleman who gave me the sweatshirt as well as the shorts. I take off his clothes. He's like, "Take these off,
whatever. Put your clothes back on." I don't know what he did with those clothes. Um, and I'm sure,
you know, since he manages that building, I'm sure he knows exactly who those clothes belong to. And especially with all the cameras. And so following that, so I do leave. I do end up
leaving. I meet back up with my friends. We go to lunch or I guess it was like a really really late lunch at this point in time. It's like 4:00 and then we go to dinner. And so we're with
um it's all of us girls and we go to and he's trying to get me to go to um Chibriani with him
still and I'm like no should that be him? Like I'm with my friends. And so we go to dinner then we go
to casino um which my friend um Johnny Delav owns um he's like a lifetime New Yorker. Um he's pretty
influential in New York. And so we're hanging out with Johnny, his friend Pierre, and me and all my
girlfriends. And um so following that dinner, we do go out for a little bit afterwards, but then
we go back. And at this point, it's just me and Johnny, and then Becca comes home separately. And so we're at our other friend. I know there's a lot of Becca's and Rebecca's. We're at our
friend Rebecca's house at this point in time. So Rebecca lived um this is not Becca the Jun Junior
UN ambassador. This is not Becca Day. This is a different Rebecca. Let's just call her Rebecca B. Um and so we go to her house in Soho. So at this point in time, it's just me and Johnny. And then
35 minutesBecca, the junior UN ambassador comes in. And um so we're just like eating pizza, whatever. And so
then I talk to Becca. Um we're like discreetly talking and Johnny overhears us and he's like,
"I'm calling the police right now." like we are calling the police immediately. Um so he had
kind of an idea of who Paulo was um and just like his influence over New York and how he does not
abide by any laws, how he just the fact alone that like he has this diplomatic residence sign still
hanging up there. You're not a diplomat. Like shut your mouth. And then also how he illegally
parks his car right out front where parking zone. Hey, if I may, uh, when Johnny overheard you that,
what set him off? Did you did he overhear that that that Paulo had raped you and imprisoned
you? And I was So, yeah. And so, this was like the first kind of point in time where we were
not around anyone else. And I trusted Johnny, you know, I I've known Becca forever. Like, I trust
her. Um, and Rebecca, Rebecca B was not there at this time. Um, who owned the house. So, um,
yeah. So, we're having this conversation and then he's like, "We're calling the police." So, the police show up. There's four of them. Um, and they kind of go through the rundown with me, Becca,
Johnny. And so, we're having this conversation. Probably lasts about like . They filed a police report. Following that, they're like, "Okay, you have to get a rape kit." I'm like,
"Okay, yeah, I I knew this was coming." So, um, Becca, let's just call her Becca M. Um,
Becca M. the junior UN ambassador at this point in time. She goes to the hospital with me. This this rape kit is literally over 30 pages. It is a book. It's like this thick. And they measure
the circumference of every single bruise. You know, they go through so many different swabs.
It is just an extensive process. And so I am there literally, it took so many hours. I was
there until like 4 or 5:00 in the morning. That's how long it took. New at at New Lennox Hospital,
right? Yes. New Lennox Hospital in Greenwich um in Greenwich Village in New York. So in that 36
in that in in that 36 or 38 page uh rape kit, was there anything about DNA inside of you? So
this was the original so I can I can get to that point. Um it's it's very complicated. So yeah,
so basically um you know I go through the whole rape kit process the next morning. Um, so Becca
and I leave after that and I love this woman to my soul. Like the fact that she just stayed there
with me all night. She's an incredible friend. Um, so we go back to where Becca's living at this
given point in time. And then um, we had plans to get brunch with our friends later. I do. Um,
38 minutesmy biggest regret honestly is I I did take a shower before my art hit. I didn't wash my hair,
so I wasn't in there for like a super long period of time, but like I did shower. However, you know,
if this incident occurred many many times, there has to be some DNA evidence. Even though he has
had a vasectomy, there has to be DNA evidence at least. Did you did did you urinate? Did you
urinate? Do you remember? Um, after it happened, like immediately after between then and the
hospital visit. Yes. Yes, I did. as well as I like did like a quick little like body shower. Um All
right. So, continue. I won't interrupt. Yeah. No, no, you're fine. Um and so we go to lunch with
my friends and then I get a call. I get a call from a detective. I am not going to say his name
just for legal purposes. Um so I get a call from a detective. He's like, "Hey, this is detective blah
blah blah. I'm with the NYPD SVU. Um can you come in this afternoon?" And by now it's like around
like noon or so. So, I go in and I meet with the detective. Um, and it it was like a movie. So,
like if you for everybody listening, like if you ever see like crew try, like true crime
documentaries and it's just like a room with like a circular recording device in the center, that's
exactly what happened. And he was like, "Okay, next step is we're getting a verbal confession."
And I said I was like, "Okay, I got this." And you know, as someone who's been in sales and like I'm
very good at negotiations and everything, like I know how to get what I want essentially. Um,
and they're like, "Do you want coaching? Like, do you need us to help you out?" And they're trying to coach me. They're like, "Okay, we're going to have a coach come in." And I'm like, "No, no,
no. Like, let's just get to the point here." So, I call him on my phone. I call him on WhatsApp.
You call you call on polio on WhatsApp. Yes. Yeah. And so it's being recorded by the detective with
the NYPDs video. So I call Paulo on WhatsApp and we I start by saying like, "Hey Paulo,
like how are you?" And he's like, "Oh, I'm good. Good. So good to hear from you. Glad you got back to me." Yeah. Finally, I get back to him after his thousands of text messages. Like just absolute BS
saying, "I love you again. I don't love you back. Stop." Um, but so I'm speaking with Paulo and I'm
like, "Yeah, I had a great time. Um, would love to see you again." Obviously, I don't want to see him again. Um, would love to see you again. I'm going to be in town for like another day or so if
you want to go to Chipriyani tonight. Because he kept saying, "Let's go to Chipriani." Um,
and I was like, "Okay, this is this is bait here. I'm going to like dangle the bait in front of you. Let's go to Chipriyani tonight. You, me, and Jeppe Chipriyani." And he's like, "Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sounds great. And I was like, "Hey, so um when I was at your place, you know, um I just want to
make sure. Do I need plan B? Um I was like again, I had a great time with you." I didn't, but do I
need plan B? I need to know that I like I'm not on birth control. Do I need plan B? And he's like,
"Oh, no, no, no, no. Like I had a vasectomy. I had a vasectomy years ago and there's no way
that I can get anyone pregnant." like, "Okay." So then, um, yeah. And so then I asked him, I'm like,
"So, you know, I was super tired that night. Like, you know, I've had a long weekend with my friends.
Like, can you go into a little bit more detail just to like clarify as to what happened?" Um, and
I just keep reiterating like, "Oh, I'm so excited to go to dinner with you." Um, just to like kind of egg him on a little bit. and he he basically gave I don't want to say for my legal purposes. I
don't want to give his exact words. Um but yeah, he he admitted um to what happened. He did not
admit to drugging. This isn't this this isn't t this isn't Tik Tok. You can say what you mean. You
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So, I just asked him to go into broader detail and I don't for legal purposes. I I kind of blacked
out in this situation um just given the fact that he already said that he was inside of me multiple
times that night. Um but he did elaborate a little further and I don't I don't remember
exactly verbatim what they got recorded, but he did go into detail with regards to what happened
um and how I got down to the basement. and he did go into those details. Um, so following that,
once I get the confession, um, I'm like, "Okay, um, look forward to seeing you at dinner tonight."
I already had a flight that evening at like 9:00 there. Like I was not meeting him for dinner. Um,
so then I I just like I'm like, "Yeah, okay. I'll see you tonight at dinner." Um, so they the NYPDs
has a recording. I can't get the recording. Then I also, even though I nobody will give it to me,
I have called I set a timer. I set an alarm on my phone every single day to call the NYPD, to call
um New Lennox Hospital, to figure out where my rape kit was, to call um the detective. Um I I
set a timer on my phone every single day like clockwork. I would call call and nobody ever
did anything. Um Why don't you Why don't you go back into that same place with a with a camera?
go back into that where you went for that SV into that SVU interview and demand to speak to either
the detective or the watch commander and be on camera doing it. Yeah, I just I would I would love
to do that. Um, unfortunately, I just haven't had time to travel to New York at this point in time,
but I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure you're you're obviously going to subpoena it at some point in
time, but I'm sorry. Continue. Yeah. Yeah. No, and to my knowledge, it has been subpoenaed um via my
initial attorney. Um, so after that, then we have dinner plans and he's like, "Where are you? Where
are you?" Like, and they're asking me to wear wire. They're like, and then that this was like, this is when I think when the detective thought that he struggled with me. He's like, "Okay, like
clearly this guy is obsessed with you. Like, you have to wear a wire. You have to go to that dinner with him and Jeppi Triani. It'll just be Palos and Poli and Jeppi Triani. You have to do this."
And I'm like, "No, I have already gone through enough hell this weekend. I don't want to engage
further. I'm not wearing a wire. I'm not going to dinner. And I am flying out this evening. I'm not doing this." Um I said, "This is your job as a detective." Yeah. He already admitted it. They
shouldn't force you to have to go have dinner with your rapist. Sickening. Yeah. But they they wanted they wanted So yes, he obviously did admit that and it is recorded. However, they wanted to kind
of go a step further and they're like, "Oh, now we can take down Jeppe Tripani as well as Paulo
Zen Puli. We can do like a two for one deal. Just make her wear a wire, make the victim wear a wire
and go to dinner." Um, and I just I wasn't having it. I was so pissed off at this point in time. So,
I leave um I end up flying home that evening and um with days to come, he's like he's like, "Oh,
like why didn't you show up at dinner? I was waiting for you." Like just all this BS. Just
constant text text like per usual. Um so I never end up blocking him. And then I only tell So at
this given point in time, only Johnny knows, only Becca knows, and then um I do end up calling my
parents. So, I tell my parents what happened. They're losing their minds. Um, so they they
come up to the city that I'm living in at this given point in time. And they're they're the
next morning um literally like 6:00 a.m. They're like, "Hey, we're here." And so we go and we talk
um about everything that happened. And they're like, "Do you need a security detail? Like what's
going on here?" Um, and I said, "No, just things are this is just things are calm right now. Like,
let's just I'm going to maintain status quo. I'm going to just maybe I'll continue a few
conversations with him until I have legal representation." Um, and one of my very best
friends from college, um, her name is Quinn. She's also absolutely amazing. So, I do, um,
but she was living across the country from me at this time. Um, and I I do call her up and I tell
her um within hours Quinn has already obtained her name is Elizabeth Fagan with Fagan Scott. Um,
she is a top um she's a top attorney when it comes to sex crimes. She worked on a lot of Weinstein
and Epstein victims, right? Yes, exactly. And so she she's very incredible. And so my friend
got me connected with her. So then the following day, I did an initial intake call with her. Um, I went through like the Zoom process. I was talking to junior attorneys. I was talking to
her. I was talking to like managing partners, like going through the whole process. I ended
up signing the retainer. I end I had to upload all of my evidence into Dropbox. Um, so at this point
I'm like, "Okay, everything's fine. Like we're getting somewhere, right?" And so Beth and I,
we have a call. I would say usually at the beginning it was every day. Um finally,
you know, we get like 6 months in, it starts to be a little bit more like sporadic. Um maybe once
a week we'd hop on a Zoom and this this went on for years. This went on up until January
48 minutesof this year. Um she had sent multiple pieces of physical mail to Pal's employees residents,
multiple pieces of mail to the his attorney at this given point in time. um multiple emails,
multiple phone calls, multiple texts, just trying to get something. He and his attorney,
they chose to ignore every single every single piece they they sent, and I'm not an attorney,
so don't quote me on this. This is something that I have to look a little further into. They did
send a letter um and an email saying that they are my legal representation with this matter. However,
I don't believe it was a formal complaint. So, a formal complaint like initiates the lawsuit. I don't think it was a formal complaint. Yeah. And then they and then you have to serve him in
person with a process server. Exactly. And so he's just he's just ignoring all of this. Right. And so
following that, um I one of my other friends, her name is L, also an incredible friend. I've been
friends with her since college. And so at this point in time, like I don't even I don't even
think I had a TikTok. I was not I was not anywhere like on social media. I just didn't care. Um and
so my friend L calls me up and she's like, "Hey, there this is insane, but I know." And she's one
of the only other friends that I have at this given point in time. This is about a year and a
half later after the incident. She's like, "Hey, um, this is crazy, but there is this woman named
Becca Day who is all over Tik Tok who is spreading awareness regarding Palo Pulley, and she's also
speaking about Amanda Angaro and her situation." And I'm like, "Okay, I I have to look this up."
So, my friend L, she gets me connected with Becca Day. And that woman changed my life. Becca Day is
absolutely phenomenal. like I I can't even It's like you have a whole news team in one person.
She's just incredible. Um she's a great advocate. So I get connected with her and Becca and I
um she does make several videos about me, adds me to like her substack, adds me to she has like
a pillow and pulley playlist on Tik Tok. So she adds me to that with these videos. Um you know,
she has all of my evidence, all of my photos, all my videos, everything like that. Um, and you know,
I still I still talk to Becca constantly. I mean, I just left her a voice note like
ago. Um, but so then come January, this is when Becca introduces me. January of this year, 2026,
this is when Becca introduces me to Amanda Angaro. So, my first interaction with Amanda, we FaceTime.
We FaceTime I I don't even know how long this FaceTime was. It was so long and it was just so
wonderful to be able to connect with somebody that knew exactly what I was talking about, who had
lived in that house for years and years and just understood everything. Um, it was just a huge like
sigh of relief to be able to connect with her. And okay, so we discuss everything, you know, I send
her all of the evidence that I have. were kind of like combing through it and I I you know I we
continued to speak. Um 2 days after my initial I would have to look exactly I believe it was 2 days
after my initial contact with Amanda Angaro and we had that FaceTime call. My attorney Beth Fagan
drops me. She literally sends me a termination letter and she said this is a termination letter.
We will no longer be working together. Um, in going through the retainer, there was absolutely nothing in there saying that like I couldn't do media, saying that I couldn't like with social
media, there was nothing saying I couldn't talk to other people that were involved. So, I'm like,
did did she did she state that as a cause because you were doing media? No, she didn't state a
cause. Yeah, she didn't state a cause at all. She just said, "This is a termination letter."
And I respond back, I reply, I'm like, "Hey, Beth, you know, you've been working with me for a couple
years now, and I really appreciate every single effort that you have put forth on my case. Thank
you for being an advocate. Um, you're an extremely intelligent woman. I just I really truly hope that
you did not get paid off by Pelos and Pulley because this timeline is not really adding up
the second that I start getting in contact and like being in contact. I'm talking all day every
day with Amanda and like then my attorney sends me this and it was just I I personally I don't think
I think that the case never went anywhere for years and years and years because I think he had already paid her off probably at the beginning. I bet he did. And this is hypothetical and this
I'm just going to say allegedly. I bet that he or Fabricio or his attorney, somebody had to see some
ort of outreach from Beth Fagan. So this again is my personal opinion. I bet he paid her off. It's
a serious accusation for an attorney. And just for my audience knows because you you've started talking about Amanda Angaro. Just so everyone here knows if you're not familiar, if you're not caught
up, Amanda Onaro was Paulo Zampoli's partner for 19 years and the mother of his child. The same
woman that he put had put in ICE detention center in Florida for nearly 4 months before deporting
her to Brazil in a custody battle. Continue. Yeah. And um so then I'm I'm starting to like freak out
a little bit. And I think I don't want to say I put it on the back burner, but like this is my first legal case. Like I've never been in legal trouble. Like I I'm young. I'm naive. I don't know
how the law system works. And um so I guess the entire like several like twoish two and a half
years that we were working together, I just kind of took it that she was working behind the scenes. you know, I didn't want to bother her. Like, we would hop on calls every now and then, but like
the communication got further and further like and far between. Like, we there was, you know, there
was one month where we didn't even talk at all. And I was just like, "Okay, she's handling it. I'm just going to leave her alone cuz I know when attorneys hate now I know attorneys hate when you
like kind of are constantly on them about things and like putting pressure on them. So, I just left
it alone." Um, so after that I did I was like, "Okay, this is this is going to be a problem here,
especially with now that I'm connected with Amanda, especially now that he's continually texting me." Um, and following that, before I do have new legal representation, and I wanted to
make sure I had the best legal representation, I interviewed so many different attorneys, like I'm
I don't even know how many attorneys I spoke with. Um, and in the meantime, so Paulo is still texting
me like he's like, "Stop talking to Amanda. Stop talking to Amanda. I don't know how you how you
were introduced to her. Did you meet her in jail?" I am a white woman. I'm a American citizen. No,
I did not meet the mother of your child in jail. No, I No. Like, stop saying nonsense. So, yeah,
it's just ridiculous. And so after that I'm like, "Okay, I'm going to get new legal representation."
So I do obtain new well there was actually I I can't say her name because I did tell her I
would not say her name. That's okay. We don't we don't we don't need a name. We just need stories. Yeah. So then um after that I do have new legal representation after interviewing with
many many attorneys and right um I do have new legal representation and so they have this is
when he starts he's he's still communicating with me. He's not supposed to be communicating with
me. I said leave me alone. You know I I did end up blocking him on WhatsApp. Um but then I did Amanda
asked me one day. She's like, "I want to figure out where Giovani is." So Amanda's in Brazil,
right? And she's like, "I need to know that my son is not home alone in New York by himself. Like, I want to make sure he's going to school. Like, can you help me figure this out?" And so,
since Paulo, you know, had still been texting me, even though he clearly had received um everything
with my attorney, he knows that I'm like trying to file a lawsuit against him that you're coming for him. I don't know. like you're clearly an idiot if you were going to correspond with me. So,
I told Amanda, I'm like, "Okay, like I I don't know if he's going to respond, but um yeah,
I'll reach out for you." So, I tell I text Paulo. I say, "Hey, um I'm coming to Miami tonight. You
know, I've been traveling a lot. Like, are you are you going to be around? Do you want to go to dinner?" And I'm like, again, Chipriani. I'm like, "Do you want to go to Chipriani tonight?" Um
like is Jueppy around? Like, we should all go get dinner. that one dinner that we like never had. Like, let's go get dinner. He's like, "Yeah, yeah, let's that sounds great. I'm in I'm in Miami. Um,
let's do 9:00 tonight at Chipriani." And so I'm like, "Okay, perfect." Um, obviously I'm not
even in the state of Florida. And um, so then I'm like, "Oh, so does Giovani want to join us? Um,
is Giovani with you in your place in Miami? Like, where's Giovani?" Um, and he's like, "Oh, yeah,
yeah, we just got a new dog. Um, Gio, Gio's going to stay home with the dog. But yeah, you, me, and
Jeppi. Um, or even if it's just you and me, like, let's go get dinner. I'm like, okay, great. So,
now at least I know where Gio is. So, Gio is in Miami, right? So, I tell Amanda and I send her
all the screenshots. I'm like, okay, so we have proof that Gio is in Miami, Florida. Yeah. So,
58 minutesthat kind of that kind of like puts her at ease a little bit. And so, you know, I I do everything I
can to help her. Like, I wish there was more ways that I could help, but in that given situation, I
just I have to do that. Listen, you we all do what we can for each other. Yeah. And can I So, Oh,
sorry. No, I don't want to interrupt you. No, no, no. Go ahead. Go ahead. I have another question,
but continue the story and then we'll circle back. Yeah. So after that, um I do after I tell Amanda,
um then he's like erratically texting me when like 9:00 p.m. comes around and he's like, "Oh, let me call you a car. Let me call you a car. Let's go to Chip Riyani. I'm I'm across the country,
dude. I'm not." No. So I just ignore him and I block him. Oh, you you ignored him. You didn't
say can't make it. You No, I didn't say anything to him and I just blocked him. Yeah, exactly. Um,
so I do end up unblocking him just because he's so erratic and always texts me no matter what. So I do want to It's also important to get all that data. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I I do want to,
you know, maintain that evidence. So I I do end up unblocking him like 2 days after. Um,
and he was just going nuts. He's like, "What's going on?" And then I think he finally I think he finally caught on. um you know, maybe he came out of the haze of the cocaine and the vodka and maybe
he finally started to realize what was going on. And so then um my attorneys are they tell him, you
know, we're Victoria's new legal representation and yet this is not a formal complaint. Um so the
lawsuit has not actually been like initiated yet. So they just send correspondents saying we're we're her attorneys. Um, were you trying to negotiate a settlement? I don't understand
why he wasn't served by any by either of these law firms because nobody cares. Okay. All right. Nope.
Nobody cares. And I don't want to speak ill about Elizabeth Fagan. That's not my intention. Um,
but nothing nothing happened. Um, I know. I've just I've just been in lawsuits before and
like nobody's listening until you know someone's been served with a with a formal complaint. So,
I don't know why, you know, you've got multiple supposed advocates dicking around and not serving
him. Yeah. And um I mean, obviously, you know, we had to like postpone this a little bit earlier
just because I was on the phone with my attorneys and they said the complaints about like 85% done.
um given his insane posts all over Instagram, all over ex saying my whole name, Victoria Drake,
that they're coming after me, reported me to the FBI, reported all of this stuff. And my family,
what are you doing? Um he's trying to intimidate you. That's that's what bullies do. Yeah. Did we
already talk about the drone project? Sorry, I'm trying to remember. No, we have not we have not
1 minutetalked about any drone project. Okay. So, in terms of like me retaining new legal counsel,
so I do end up sending their retainer. You know, they have the initial outreach and then they're asking for documents every single time you obtain a lawyer. Like it's just constant like
busy work like uploading uploading uploading like statements all this other stuff. And so they ask
for the address where it took place. And so I look up his diplomatic address in grammar. Not going
to give the exact address for privacy purposes, but it is tied to Salony's Live Organic Chicken.
Salony's Live Organic Chicken is a fake shell company business. There are Salanony's chicken
places that are restaurants in New York that serve chicken. This was Salony's live organic chicken.
So he initially registered his diplomatic residence to South Anony's live organic chicken
when he bought his diplomatic residence. Um it was like around 2009 2010. Um I don't have it
in front of me right now, but it was during that time period. There were a series of and you can
look it up on Yelp. Um there was a series of seven reviews. There was six women, young women, and one
man. And they were all from this time period. And I'm like, "Okay, this is this is super weird." Um,
and I had a friend over at the time. And so we start doing a deep dive and the Yelp reviewers,
a lot of the girls when you do a reverse image search because there like this is supposed to be a chicken restaurant, right? And they're like, "Oh, like great soup, great burgers, like everything
just seemed so sketchy. It just some things were not adding up." So, we do our reverse image search
and we find that these girls, a lot of them were massuses at a sketchy sex trafficking ring. Um,
masseuse parlor there. They were working at a massage parlor in Palm Springs, California. Um,
that was like their main photo when you do the reverse image search. And I looked up the massage
parlor, all of their ads. They have clients and then they have naked I'm talking naked girls. like
this is on the internet. Um, naked girls massaging them. Like it's I don't know how nobody has caught
on to this. And I know that a lot of people are doing a lot of investigative research. Again, like shout out to Becca Day. A lot of people are doing investigative research, but this was just
another piece of the puzzle that I just happened to stumble upon. And then when you go to there was
two girls in particular that were the massus. When you do a reverse image search on their second Yelp
profile photo, it brings you to an antique store which is located in Satan's Kingdom, Vermont. So,
there's multiple Satan's Kingdoms. There's Satan's Kingdom Ranch, there's Satan's Kingdom, and then there's another Satan's Kingdom. And they are all located within Vermont, Massachusetts,
and Connecticut. So, this particular antique store, um, I I ironically I have a friend that
lives near this area in Vermont, and I said, "Hey, what's the deal with this air this house,
this antique store?" And he's like, "What antique store?" And so, it is it is a very large kind of
mansion like house. It's a single family home and it's in Satan's Kingdom in Vermont. Um, and so I'm just specifically talking about the one in Vermont right now, but it's on a body
of water and it's right next to a transit station. So this is a lot of sex trafficking rings. They're
near bodies of water. Easy body dumping. You know, after you've had your way with someone,
you just kill them and you dump the body. And so it was on a lake on a river. Allegedly. Allegedly.
Right. Like I'm just going to say allegedly. Um, but I think I think it's very well known
that like most sex trafficking happens near bodies of water. And then um, so it is relatively near
the Atlantic Ocean as well, as well as this like transit station. I I don't know. I haven't even
looked into the transit station yet, but um, yeah. So he confirms that it's known for it's known for
sex trafficking in that area. Um, it's not an antique store. It's a single family home. Um,
so then I I do a little bit of a deeper dive. I'm like, what? Who names a certain geographical area,
Satan's Kingdom? That's weird. And why are there multiple Satan's Kingdoms? Satan King Satan's
Kingdom Ranch is also known for sex trafficking, apparently. Um, I I have not done my research
that deep on Satan's Kingdom Ranch, but apparently it's known for that. And so this is where it all kind of ties together with the girls in remember when I told you the girls in the inner tube in
6 minutesthe elevator in the upper leftand corner the girls that were wearing like thong bikinis or like they
were naked um in the inner tubes. This is known for a tubing community. Like they literally say
there's a sign when you're like entering this on the road. I looked on Google Maps like there's
a sign that and it says like something along the lines of like welcome to our tubing community. Um
so I just think it's very odd that Satan's kingdom with the tubes and the girls that did the fake
reviews for the restaurant of the Shell Company restaurant that was tied to your diplomatic
residence. Like there's so many pieces of the puzzle that I'm putting together at this point.
Can I ask you a quick Can I Can I ask you a quick question and we'll get back to this. Um,
in the recordings that you shared with me, there was a lot of back and forth about Paulo saying,
"I want to protect the president." And he offered $650,000. Who initiated that negotiation? So,
he was like, "You want money? You want money? I'll pay you off. I'll I'll give you all your money. That's all you want. Are you business partners with Amanda? I just have to make sure
the money that I pay you off with goes to you and not Amanda. And so I entertain the phone call,
right? My dad's listening in. Um I entertain that phone call because I just I'm like, he is going to
crash out. He's going to say stupid stuff. Um and then yeah, he sends me the email saying that we're
going to use US taxpayer dollars, so we're going to Well, he didn't say I I have to correct myself
there. He didn't spec he didn't specify with US taxpayer dollars, but he said, "Please get please
get into the federal government funds." Now, now I I do want you to go into detail on that. He
suggested Panameanian banks, uh, cryptocurrency. G fill fill in those blanks if you would. Yeah.
Yeah. So, he he was like, "Oh, I'll pay you money. I'll pay you whatever you want." Um, and then he said that he's like, "Okay, so you own a federal government contracting agency." He's like, "Oh,
we'll do a Mara Lago drone project. will say that the funds that I'm paying you um from the
government are going to your government. And so I don't have like a government-based email. Like
I'm an independent small um womenowned business. Like I I don't have I'm not working with like
Northrup Grumin. I'm not working with Lidos. I'm not working with Hamilton. Like and so he's like, "Okay, I'll send you an email to your federal government email." So he sends me an email to
my work email and this is where he breaks down the payment. It is $350,000 for a fraudulent
Mara Lago drone project and that will be covered by government funds to pay me to stay silent.
The other $300,000 will be broken down in two different payments between Giovani's Trust,
which is located in Panama, as well as the Cayman Islands. Um, and I heard through the grape vine,
9 minuteslike through Amanda, I believe his new girlfriend, I think her name is Daisy. I guess her dad like lives in Panama and is like managing one of his accounts in Panama. Okay,
little left little left turn here. You mentioned and I can't I can't stop thinking about this. You
mentioned that Ephine, the elderly man in the adjoining building looked very similar
to Ephine Stone Reyes, Jeffrey Epstein's cellmate who allegedly died from COVID. Do you really think
he's alive and protected? And do you still believe Jeffrey Epstein is still alive? I absolutely
believe that Jeffrey Epstein is still alive and I have damning evidence. And what is it? I have I
have friends Well, okay. So, we'll start with the soft evidence which is I have friends that do live
in Tel Aviv and they have said that they have seen him. Um, then this is this is the actual physical
evidence that we have is that he had his prostate removed. He had a surgery to have his prostate
removed. Um, so no prostate, right? And this was about, I believe it was 6 months. I would have to
look it up. It was around 6 monthsish before he was incarcerated when the autopsy results
came out. So, first of all, we have the phone call with the fake dentist girlfriend with the dental
chair on Little St. James. You were calling your girlfriend. It is unmonitored. unmonitored calls
do not exist in prison. I mean, I've never been to prison, but like they don't exist in prison. And um so he has an unmonitored call with his girlfriend. Lasts about . Then we have
the CCTV cameras go out on his floor. However, there's still the analog data saying that somebody
was being wheeled out of his cell in an orange jumpsuit. So, at least we have the analog. Then,
um you know, no prostate. When the autopsy results come out, first of all, and unfortunately,
11 minutesyou know, I've seen loved ones pass. You know, I I know what it I know what a dead body looks
like. There was still blood flowing to his face. And this was supposedly about after he
was wheeled out. His mouth should have been like a gape and there should be no blood in his face and
um just like a lot of like muscle tension in his face. That that would not be there. um the lack
of the tattoo. So, this is all just like what you can tell from the blind eye, but on top of that,
the autopsy results show that he had an enlarged prostate. Like, you had your prostate removed 6
months before you went to prison. Okay, let me ask you this. H how how publicly available and
well documented is his prostate ectomy, if that's what it's called? So, I have not I just saw like a
couple files on it. I have not done a deep dive on it. Like I mean, as you know, I've just been
so incredibly busy. So, I haven't done a deep dive on it. However, I just like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And
I can I can if I have time later today, maybe I'll look a little further into it. But yeah, it it is he did have his prostate removed and that is confirmed via the files and it was very
well known that he had his prostate removed. And then the fake body, whoever's body that is,
that was clearly still alive in the photo. That wasn't even him. And the autopsy shows that he
had an enlarged prostate and issues with his prostate. So, it's like, what's going on? Okay.
And let's let's jump back. So, so the recording exists with SVU. The rape kit exists. The case
was still dropped. At what point does did the word immunity enter the conversation? I mean
Paulo Zampoli was the UN ambassador for Dominica. He was a Trump special envoy. Which immunity which
immunity did they invoke and did he actually have it? Because UN records show that the latest Paulo
was an ambassador was August of 2018 and a White House special envoy doesn't automatically carry
diplomatic immunity from crimes in perpetuity. Has anyone in law enforcement explained to you how and
why it was applied here? So, I know that there has been like quite a few podcasts, a lot of um posts
regarding me, Paulo, Amanda. So, I actually never I never actually stated that. So, this is a little
discrepancy that I would like to clear the record on. I never actually stated that he said that he
had diplomatic immunity. Okay. All right. Yeah. And he he didn't have diplomatic immunity. You're
exactly right in the fact that he didn't have it. and he did not actually state that. I know a lot of people are saying it, but um All right. All right. No, I'm glad that you cleared it up.
You also said that the FBI dropped the case. Why? I mean, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this feels like a conspiracy. You're well connected. Has anyone spoken at Cash Patel in between his
uh benders? So, I have not spoke to the FBI. Uh I I have called the FBI multiple times, but the FBI
that's another discrepancy that I would like to clear the record on is the FBI did not say that they dropped the case. Let So when you when you mentioned that all of those all that talk about
government funds and drones and offshore accounts and crypto that was all deleted, did you have any
screenshots? Do you have any documentary evidence of those communicates? I do have um so all of our
text messages are gone also. And so when he was communicating with me just like a few weeks ago,
that communication was all of our communication prior to this had always been WhatsApp. So he
contacts me. When he's going through like the incessant phone calls, it's through FaceTime audio and then he switches to iMessage and then he's texting me. Those texts are gone. Um, however,
I did take screenshots. I wish to God that I would have taken screenshots of the emails. However,
I do have some damning evidence of the screenshots via iMessage. Again, the texts are gone,
but I do have the screenshots. Just so you just so you know, Google takes snapshots of every account
every few seconds. So, if you subpoena them, they can find the deleted messages. I hope. Yeah. And
following this, I'm contacting the I've already contacted the NSA regarding this and like my attorneys for whatever reason told me not to just because NSA I don't think I don't think in this
case given given how high this goes up I don't think the NSA are your friends here. I think a
subpoena to Google is a safer bet and WhatsApp and whomever. Anyway, so let me so let me let
me jump back. Um you were so you said that while Zoli was traveling with Vice President JD Vance
aboard Air Force 2, he was repeatedly calling you at 3:00 in the morning. And you said you may have
heard the vice president's voice on the phone. Talk about that. What did he say to you? So,
he said that he was going to Hungary. Um, which I know that he went to Hungary with JD Vance. Um,
I did hear like this is all me allegedly, you know, coming up with this speculation. Yeah. Yeah,
it's all speculation. Um, however, so he did say that he was going to Hungary and then he was going
to Asia afterwards. So he was it sounded like he was on a plane and he said that he was going
to Hungary and it was like again middle of the night whatever and I did hear a white man again
speculation sounded a little bit like JD I don't know for sure but it did sound a little bit like
JD and there was like some whispering going on and that's kind of when his intonation changes and
then that is when he said I need to speak with your father because you might be a minor. Um,
and I'm like, I'm not a minor. I'm 33. I'm not a minor. And you know that. So, at that point in
17 minutestime, um, you know, he calms down a little bit. He's like no longer like yelling, screaming, cursing, like everything else he was doing during the call. Um, and I don't know. I'm just going to
say hypothetically, this is my theory, that maybe there was a couple important people on that plane
that came over and they're like, "What's going on?" Like, "Why are you screaming? What? Tell me what's going on." And also, you know, when you're traveling on a plane, like, you're probably that's
probably why he called me via FaceTime audio. Um, so he could connect to the Wi-Fi. And yeah,
he changed a little bit. And then that's when he said he's going to talk to my dad. I'm like, I'm not a minor. And I'm like, wow, that would really fit. And I just I clap back at him. Like
I I'm not scared of him. I I just I don't care. And so I'm like, wow, that would really fit the
narrative. That would really fit the narrative of your Epstein Files if I was a minor. Um that's
right. And he's like, "Oh, the Epstein files. The Epstein Files. Wow, I'm so famous. I'm so famous."
Like basically insinuating that he's happy that he's in the Epstein Files. And he also since then
um I don't have a recording of it, but he has said that he is happy that he's in the Epstein
files because if you're not in the Epstein files, that means you're a loser. Yeah. Yeah,
he did say that. So, let me ask you a question. You referenced former Attorney General Pam Bondi
uh and her replacement Todd Blanch. uh you you had you had implied that that he was thick as thieves
with Pam Bondi and maybe didn't have as stronger relationship uh with current acting attorney
general Todd Blanch. Talk about it. Yeah, so um Pam Bondi worked with him to get Amanda detained
in the ICE facility and um so when Amanda was detained, he had already put in several reports.
She had been remarried. She's with her husband and living in Miami. And he had put in several reports
to try to get her deported to say that this like medical practice is unlicensed. Like everything's
illegal. And then based off of one photo of her left hand or I don't I think it was her left hand.
It was like buy a laser machine. Like it was not she was not doing surgery. She's not a licensed
medical professional. She was not doing surgery. Her husband, however, was the one who owned the
practice and he was doing the surgery. Why by proxy as the wife does that make you Why can you
just like automatically assume that she's doing surgery? That is absolutely illogical. That's
so stupid. You can't But what but was she was she illegal? Did she overstay her visa? So, you know,
this is Amanda's story. I I don't I Yeah, we don't comment on that. We don't we we don't
have to do Amanda. Um yeah. So Paulo's lawyers, as we talked about for a few minutes earlier,
have since released multiple statements calling this extortion, claiming that he's the victim of a documented extortion attempt and that reports have been filed with US
authorities. When you hear the word extortion applied to what you're doing, how do you feel
there? There's no I mean, so this is how I personally feel. I'm like, this guy's an idiot.
This guy's a drunk. This guy's a drug addict. Like, unless there's somebody super behind the
scenes that is actually doing this for you, this is all just empty threats. Um, and then he also
said that like he had already started started a lawsuit. There has been no formal complaint filed.
He has not um there has been one conversation he did have to obtain new counsel. And for somebody
that has committed sex crimes over and over and over for so many years, how do you not
have an attorney on retainer? Like you should have hundreds of return like attorneys on retainer like
for every single one of your crimes. Like you should have that unlock. And so I get
um I hear and again he's not supposed to contact me. He sends me a screenshot of a letter that
um it's like a document that his attorney sent to my attorney. Um and he sends it to me. I
don't respond obviously. And it's basically saying that like we're representing him. Um,
and this this particular attorney, he is licensed to practice in Miami as well as other states. And
I know who this attorney is because with all of my time, like Miami is really a small world. And I
know exactly who this person is. And small towns. Yeah, we do. We do have I have friends in common
with this attorney who is going to be essentially prosecuting me for a crime that I didn't do. Um,
and let's just say the apple doesn't fall from the tree. They birds of a feather flock together
when it comes to this attorney. And he is very similar. So, I'm not scared. Like, sometimes I
go through periods where I'm like, "Oh my gosh, like what if this happens?" And then I'm like,
"Wait, no." Like, I I'm I'm not worried. And that that's again like why I'm speaking out. like I I
am speaking out because I want to be an advocate and there's so many people that don't have a
voice. That's right. And that's why I do what I do. So, just quickly, Paulo ran ID Models, which
I was well acquainted with in the, you know, back in those days, uh, which was obviously been close been closely linked to Jeffrey Epste. At what point in your timeline did you learn about this?
So I would say it was like a couple months after everything that happened in October. Um so I would
say it was beginning of like 2024. Um because to me like yes I had seen him around. I don't
know how I had never like actually maybe I had seen Amanda but like even a lot of like I have
so many photos from Mara Lago where Amanda with was in like a three-foot proximity of me taking
these photos like even with Eric Trump at the presidential table. So at the presidential table like the New Year's party at Mara Lago is where like that's like his blowout party. And so at the
table it was like all of the kids, all of their spouses, significant others, their kids, whatever,
Donald and Melania and Paulo and Amanda. And so I was like walking around with my ex at the time.
And so Eric managed the building. I was living in Trump Tower in Chicago at the time. And Mhm. So,
like I I had spoke with Eric prior and so Eric and I take a photo together and we were
literally within a couple feet of Amanda. Like it's so crazy looking back and I think that it's
24 minuteslike just God's way of like connecting people and bringing people together. Yeah. Victoria,
how is this whole experience changed your opinion about President Trump and his administration?
So it's it's a very complex issue. So I think Oh my gosh. Sorry. I don't know what happened.
You're still here. So in terms in terms of um our president and just all of the corruption and
everything that's going on. Did I vote for him? Yes. Do I regret that vote? Yes. However, I think
that there has been such a level of corruption in the government for years and years and years. And I think that it's more so coming to light um now that people are there's so many more independent
journalists, there's so many more podcasts, there's just such a large presence on social media
like especially Tik Tok where people are bringing things to light that in the past people did not
have that platform to bring issues to light. So, I think the corruption has been forever,
but sure, I think there's I think there's always been corruption, but I think there's always been corruption. We've never We've We've We Yeah, we've never We've never had a president,
you know, opening up cryptocurrencies and selling merchandise and making payforplay deals and
accepting, you know, uh commercialsized jetliners as gifts from Middle Eastern countries. Exactly.
So yeah, I think it's not the same, you know. I think it's not definitely it is definitely it is
definitely a whole new level of corruption and I absolutely do not stand with Donald Trump. I just
I I don't I do still have Republican values in the fact that and ironically I think that Donald
Trump and this current administration they are practicing the absolute opposite of Republican values. So when we're speaking in terms of policies that um Republicans believe in, you know,
we believe in limited government. So do we have limited government now? No. We have the opposite
of limited government. In fact, I think if we had a Democratic president in office that there would
be less government regulations than there is right now. Um it's just there's so many policies and
especially like do I believe in um kind of like the socialistic idea of universal healthcare? No,
I don't believe in universal healthcare because my brother's a surgeon and I understand in a perfect
world there are company there are countries that make universal healthcare work but in
order to have universal health care you have to have universal education. I mean, it cost
my brother hundreds of thousands of dollars, you know, to go to school for um four years undergrad,
four years med school, five years residency. Like, that costs a lot of money. And so, if you're going
to be a good doctor, you want to get paid in order to pay off that debt. And universal healthare,
universal education. That's that's true. That's true. On the other hand, you know, England,
you can get the crappy government uh health care or you can pay for the private. Here in LA,
the best doctors in Beverly Hills do not take insurance. So, there might be room for both, but anyway, that's that's this is a conversation for another this isn't another time. I mean,
I could go on and on about like policies and everything like that. No, no, we'll we'll keep you're you're really fun to chat to. You're very fun to chat to and and you're a great
guest and a great storyteller and um before my network kills me, we should wrap up and
um we can always do a part two sometime. Okay. Yeah, sounds great. Um it was great speaking with
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