AZ investigates Trump saying Cheney should face firing squad

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Arizona prosecutor investigating Trump for saying Cheney should face gunfire
by Andy Sullivan and Susan Heavey
Reuters
November 1, 20244:30 PM MDT Updated 5 hours ago
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- ... 024-11-01/

Summary

• Arizona attorney general investigates if Trump's comment is a criminal threat
• Trump's campaign says his remark was misinterpreted
• Harris says remark shows Trump is unhinged

Nov 1 (Reuters) - Arizona's top prosecutor, a Democrat, said on Friday that her office was investigating whether Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump violated state law for suggesting a prominent critic should face gunfire in combat.

Trump has drawn outrage for comments he made about former lawmaker Liz Cheney at a campaign event in the battleground state of Arizona on Thursday. His campaign said the former president was criticizing Cheney as a warmonger, but critics condemned the remarks as evidence he would target his enemies if he wins next week's election against Democrat Kamala Harris.

"She's a radical war hawk," Trump said of Cheney. "Let's put her with a rifle standing there, with nine barrels shooting at her, okay? Let's see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face."

Speaking to a local TV station on Friday, Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes said Trump might have violated state laws that prohibit death threats.

"I have already asked my criminal division chief to start looking at that statement, analyzing it for whether it qualifies as a death threat under Arizona's laws," Mayes told 12News.

Mayes said it was not yet clear whether Trump's comment amounted to protected free speech or a criminal threat.

"That's the question, whether it did cross the line. It's deeply troubling," Mayes said. "It is the kind of thing that riles people up, and that makes our situation in Arizona and other states more dangerous."

The Trump campaign said his remarks had been misinterpreted.

"President Trump is 100% correct that warmongers like Liz Cheney are very quick to start wars and send other Americans to fight them, rather than go into combat themselves," spokesperson Karoline Leavitt said in a statement.

Contacted for comment on the probe, a Trump campaign spokesperson reiterated Leavitt's remarks.

Both Vice President Harris and Cheney, a former top Republican in the U.S. House of Representatives who has endorsed Harris' White House bid, denounced Trump's comments.

Harris told reporters Trump "is increasingly unstable and unhinged."

"Anyone who wants to be president of the United States who uses that kind of violent rhetoric is clearly disqualified and unqualified to be president," she said in Madison, Wisconsin.

In a post on social media, Cheney said: "This is how dictators destroy free nations. They threaten those who speak against them with death. We cannot entrust our country and our freedom to a petty, vindictive, cruel, unstable man who wants to be a tyrant."

During the Arizona event, Trump also criticized others who support U.S. involvement in foreign conflicts.

"They're all war hawks when they're sitting in Washington in a nice building, saying, 'Oh, gee, well, let's send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy,'" he said.

Trump has repeatedly talked about "the enemy from within" on the campaign trail and has vowed to prosecute political rivals, election workers, journalists and protesters, among others. He has said the military could be used against what he calls "radical left lunatics" if there is unrest on Election Day.

He also has vowed to pardon supporters who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, in an attempt to prevent Congress from certifying his defeat in the 2020 election.

While serving in Congress during Trump's 2017-2021 presidency, Cheney pressed him to keep U.S. troops in Syria and restore harsh interrogation techniques for military detainees.

She lost her seat in Congress after helping to lead the investigation into the Jan. 6 attack. Her father, Republican former Vice President Dick Cheney, has also refused to back Trump's third presidential run.

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Arizona attorney general's office probing Trump's violent comments about Liz Cheney. At an event Thursday night, Trump said the former congresswoman wouldn't be a "war hawk" if guns were "trained on her face."
by Alex Tabet, Rebecca Shabad and Dareh Gregorian
NBC News
Nov. 1, 2024, 1:39 PM MDT
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... rcna178228

Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes said Friday that her office is investigating whether former President Donald Trump’s violent remarks about former GOP Rep. Liz Cheney broke the law.

“I have already asked my criminal division chief to start looking at that statement, analyzing it for whether it qualifies as a death threat under Arizona’s laws,” Mayes, a Democrat, said during a taping of “Sunday Square Off” on 12NEWS in Phoenix.

“I’m not prepared now to say whether it was or it wasn’t, but it is not helpful as we prepare for our election and as we try to make sure that we keep the peace at our polling places and in our state,” Mayes told the NBC affiliate.

A spokesman for the attorney general's office, Richie Taylor, confirmed to NBC News the office is "looking into" whether Trump's remarks violated Arizona law. NBC News reached out to the Trump campaign for comment.

At an event in Arizona with Tucker Carlson on Thursday, Trump suggested that Cheney wouldn't be such a "war hawk" if she had guns "trained on her face."

“She’s a radical war hawk. Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her,” Trump said. “Okay, let’s see how she feels about it. You know when the guns are trained on her face — you know, they’re all war hawks when they’re sitting in Washington in a nice building."

In a post on his Truth Social account Friday afternoon, Trump said that Cheney “wouldn’t have 'the guts' to fight herself. It’s easy for her to talk, sitting far from where the death scenes take place, but put a gun in her hand, and let her go fight, and she’ll say, ‘No thanks!’” In remarks to reporters later Friday, Trump defended his comments on Cheney, calling her a war hawk again and saying that “she kills people”

Earlier in the day, Trump campaign spokesperson Karoline Leavitt said that Trump was "100% correct that warmongers like Liz Cheney are very quick to start wars and send other Americans to fight them, rather than go into combat themselves."

Trump has escalated his violent rhetoric on the campaign trail in the last month. He's called Democrats and his opponents the "enemy from within" and has vowed to use the U.S. military against American citizens. He has also said during the 2024 race that he might jail his political opponents.

Vice President Kamala Harris said Friday that former President Trump’s remarks on Cheney should be “disqualifying.”

“He has increased his violent rhetoric, Donald Trump has, about political opponents and in great detail, in great detail suggested rifles should be trained on former Rep. Liz Cheney,” Harris told reporters after landing near Madison, Wisconsin.

“This must be disqualifying. Anyone who wants to be president of the United States, who uses that kind of violent rhetoric, is clearly disqualified and unqualified to be president,” she added.

Harris said that Trump is “permanently out for revenge” and he’s “increasingly unstable and unhinged.” “His enemy’s list has grown longer, his rhetoric has grown more extreme, and he is even less focused than before on the needs and the concerns and the challenges facing the American people,” she said.

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Trump Threatens Liz Cheney: Here Are The Implications In Trump's Three Pending Criminal Cases
Glenn Kirschner
Nov 1, 2024

In an appearance in Arizona, Donald Trump threatened Liz Cheney. The Arizona attorney general is investigating the threat. But regardless of the determination of the AZ AG, Donald Trump should be revoked on pretrial release in his three criminal cases because there is clear and convincing evidence that he poses a danger to the community, as this video discusses.



Transcript

so friends in an appearance in Arizona
Donald Trump threatened Liz Cheney so
what are the implications for Donald
Trump in Arizona and what are the
implications for him in his criminal
cases in Georgia in New York and in
Washington
DC let's talk about that because Justice
matters
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hey all Glen kersner here so friends
you've probably already seen the
reporting in an appearance out in
Arizona Donald Trump threatened former
congresswoman Liz Cheney and we're going
to talk in a minute about the
implications for Trump in Arizona and in
his pending criminal cases but let's
start with the new reporting out in
Arizona headline Arizona attorney
general's office probing Trump's violent
comments about Liz
Cheney Arizona attorney general Chris
May said Friday that her office is
investigating whether former president
Donald Trump's violent remarks about
former GOP representative Liz Cheney
broke the law quote I have already asked
my Criminal Division Chief to start
looking at the statement analyzing it
for whether it qualifies as a death
threat under Arizona's laws Maize a
Democrat said during a taping of Sunday
square off on 12 news in Phoenix so we
may know soon enough whether the Arizona
law enforcement authorities believe
Donald Trump's language and conduct
violates Arizona state law I suspect it
does and friends here's what vice
president kamla Harris had to say about
Donald Trump's
threats headline Harris asiles Trump for
saying Liz Cheney should have rifles
shooting at her and that article
begins kamla Harris said Friday it was
disqualifying for Donald Trump to say
former representative Liz Cheney one of
the former former president's most
prominent Republican critics should have
rifles shooting at her to see how she
feels about sending troops to fight now
friends before we turn to the
implications for Donald Trump in his
pending criminal cases let's look at the
exact language the exact statement that
Donald Trump made about Liz Cheney quote
let's put her he was talking about Liz
Cheney let's put her with the rifle
standing there with nine barrels
shooting at her okay let's see how safe
she feels about it you know when the
guns are trained on her face close quote
so friends I believe the first word in
that threatening statement is perhaps
the most
important Donald Trump says let's let
apostrophe
we all remember from grade school
grammar that is a contraction of two
words let
us so what did Donald Trump tell his
supporters let us put Liz Cheney with
the rifle standing there with nine
barrels shooting at her when the guns
are trained on her
face that's a
threat we all know it's a threat Donald
Trump knows it's a threat here's the
thing friends when prosecutors look at a
statement to see whether it constitutes
threatening language or conduct which
would be a violation of a criminal
Statute in Arizona they don't just look
at the words in a vacuum they look at
who the person is that is speaking the
words they look at what that person
knows or reasonably should no he is
communicating what are the
implications of what he is putting out
there in the Public Square to his
supporters what is some of what we know
about Donald Trump's past violence
inducing statements all of which is
relevant in assessing what he was
communicating about Liz Cheney well we
know that Donald Trump used inflammatory
rhetoric violence inducing rhetoric
previously against Michigan Governor
Gretchen Whitmer and how did his
supporters
respond well they entered into a
conspiracy to kidnap and kill the
governor indeed they were indicted and
criminally prosecuted for
it that was a natural and probable
consequence of Donald Trump's Reckless
violence inducing rhetoric that's
relevant to assessing this statement
this threat against Liz Cheney what else
did Donald Trump do well he said things
falsely about Haitian Americans and
immigrants in Springfield Ohio they're
stealing pets they're eating cats
they're eating dogs all that
Ridiculousness all of that force uh
false inflammatory rhetoric and what
happened Haitian Americans and
immigrants were threatened were
assaulted and were subjected to endless
bomb threats that's relevant in
assessing this statement these threats
against Liz Cheney what else did Donald
Trump do he lied about female workers
who were bringing much needed relief to
hurricane victims down in North Carolina
he lied about what was going on and what
those femo workers were doing and what
happened so some of Donald Trump's
little play militias down there took up
arms and went out quote hunting female
workers that's relevant to what Donald
Trump knows or should have known about
his you know violence inducing rhetoric
statement conducts what else did Donald
Trump
do Donald Trump said on January 6 2021
Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do
what he needed to do to keep me in
power and his supporters predictably
reacted by hunting Mike Pence and
chanting hang Mike Pence that's relevant
to the statements the threats that
Donald Trump made against Liz Cheney so
friends let's turn to the implications
of this latest threat against Liz Cheney
the implications for Donald Trump in his
many pending criminal cases these
statements can and should be used in two
ways in connection with Donald Trump's
current criminal cases Donald Trump is
on pre-trial release in two criminal
cases one in Georgia right he is a Rico
codefendant together with lots of
criminal Associates criminal
codefendants for the crimes he committed
in violation of Georgia state law to try
to steal the 2020 election he's on
pre-trial release in that case and one
of the conditions of his release is that
he not commit any crimes while on
release no federal no State no local
crimes Donald Trump is also on pre-trial
release in his Federal Criminal
prosecution in Washington DC for trying
to overturn the results of the 2020
presidential election and one of the
conditions of his of release in that
case is that he commit no crimes while
on release no federal state or local
crimes Donald Trump is on pre-sentence
release in his New York criminal case in
which he's already been
convicted by a jury of his peers of 34
felony crimes falsifying business
records to cover up hush money payments
to cheat and try to steal the 2016
presidential election and again he is to
commit no crimes while on release in his
New York State
prosecution and
he appears to have committed a crime in
violation of Arizona state law will'll
know soon enough whether the law
enforcement authorities in Arizona
believe that his threatening statement
statements about Liz Cheney violate
Arizona state law that would mean he's
violated the conditions of of release in
both his Georgia case and in his federal
case in DC and he's on pre-trial release
in both of those cases and he will have
violated his um conditions of release
pending sentencing in his New York case
therefore you know I don't pretend this
is going to happen before the
election it should but it won't but it
should happen I would say the moment the
moment kamla Harris is declared the
Victor in the upcoming election there
should be motions filed by the
prosecutors in all of those cases
seeking to have Donald Trump revoked on
release and detained pending trial or
pending sentencing because the evidence
will warrant it and because that's the
way the law was intended to be applied
to somebody in Donald Trump's
circumstances that's one way these
threats should be used in connection
with Donald Trump's pending criminal
cases but there's another way you know
set aside for the moment that when
you're on release in these felony cases
one of the conditions of release is that
you may not commit any crimes while on
release or you're subject to being
revoked and detained pending trial or
pending sentencing the law also provides
that when you're a defendant in a felony
case if there's clear and convincing
evidence that you your conduct your
statements pose a danger to the
community or even one person in the
commun Community you should be detained
pending trial that's separate and apart
from whether you committed a violation
of state law or federal law or local law
so both of those Vehicles can be used to
revoke somebody on release and detain
them pending trial or pending sentencing
and that is precisely what should happen
in this case in these cases given Donald
Trump's threats to Liz Cheney let us put
her with a rifle standing there with
nine barrels shooting at her you know
when guns are trained on her face you
know friends I was in court in
Washington DC some time ago when the
issue that was being argued by the
parties that is the prosecutor Jack
Smith's team and Donald Trump and his
defense attorneys what was being argued
was whether it was was necessary to put
a gag order in place to try to prevent
Donald Trump from endangering Witnesses
and jurors and interfering with the due
administration of justice by spewing
these violence inducing lies into the
Public Square and Donald Trump's lawyer
said well judge it was actually a
three-judge panel judge Donald Trump
isn't responsible for what his
supporters do when he makes statements
and the judge said no you're wrong we
all know the pattern Donald Trump makes
statements about Witnesses or jurors or
prosecutors prosecutors or judges or
family members
thereof and threats
ensue from his supporters Donald Trump
knows this he knows this and he uses it
to maximum
effect you know he intends his
supporters to do
precisely what he just said in that
statement concerning Liz Cheney that's
why this is a threat that's why it's a
violation of state law and that's why he
is a proven danger to the community and
frankly everybody in the community and
he should be revoked on release and
detained pending trial in the minute he
loses the election that is precisely
what the courts should do and bring
bring this long National
nightmare to an
end because
Justice
matters friends as always please stay
safe please stay tuned and I look
forward to talking with you all again
tomorrow
[Music]

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Trump Fantasizes About Guns Pointed at Liz Cheney’s Face. Arizona's attorney general is now investigating the former president saying Cheney should have nine barrels “trained on her face”
by Nikki McCann Ramirez
Rolling Stone
November 1, 2024
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 235149792/

Donald Trump fantasized about former Rep. Liz Cheney staring down gun barrels during a campaign event in Arizona. The former president’s remarks have led to widespread condemnation, and even an investigation from the state attorney general’s office.

“She’s a radical war hawk. Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?” Trump told Tucker Carlson on Thursday night. “Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.

“They’re all war hawks when they’re sitting in Washington in a nice building, saying, ‘Oh gee, let’s send 10,000 troops right in the mouth of the enemy,’” he said of his critics.

Cheney — who has campaigned with Vice President Kamala Harris as one of the most vocal Republican detractors of the former president — responded to the comments on Friday morning. “This is how dictators destroy free nations,” she wrote on X, formerly Twitter. “They threaten those who speak against them with death. We cannot entrust our country and our freedom to a petty, vindictive, cruel, unstable man who wants to be a tyrant.”

Vice President Kamala Harris called Trump’s remarks “disqualifying” while speaking to reporters later on Friday. “Anyone who wants to be president of the United States who uses that kind of violent rhetoric is clearly disqualified and unqualified to be president,” she said.

Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes, a Democrat, said her office will investigate whether the comments violate state law against death threats. “I have already asked my criminal division chief to start looking at that statement, analyzing it for whether it qualifies as a death threat under Arizona’s laws,” she said on 12NEWS in Phoenix.

Cheney has firsthand knowledge of Trump’s desire to weaponize the military against his critics. In July, the former president reposted an image on Truth Social accusing Cheney of treason and demanding she be subjected to a “military tribunal.”

“Elizabeth Lynne Cheney is guilty of TREASON. Retruth if you want televised military tribunals,” the post read. The standard penalty for treason is death.

Trump amplifies posts calling for televised military tribunal for Liz Cheney
by Kate Sullivan
CNN
Published 9:12 AM EDT, Tue July 2, 2024

Former President Donald Trump amplified posts on social media calling for a televised military tribunal for former Republican Rep. Liz Cheney and the jailing of top elected officials, including President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris.

“ELIZABETH LYNNE CHENEY IS GUILTY OF TREASON,” one post created by another user that Trump amplified on his social media website Truth Social on Sunday reads. “RETRUTH IF YOU WANT TELEVISED MILITARY TRIBUNALS.”

Cheney responded on X, “Donald - This is the type of thing that demonstrates yet again that you are not a stable adult—and are not fit for office.”

A separate post Trump amplified on Truth Social Sunday includes photos of 15 former and current elected officials and says, “THEY SHOULD BE GOING TO JAIL ON MONDAY NOT STEVE BANNON!”

In addition to Biden and Harris, the post includes photos of Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, former Vice President Mike Pence and members of the House select committee that investigated the January 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol.

When reached for comment, a Trump campaign spokesperson did not address Trump’s posts but instead pointed to what she described as the January 6 committee’s “political persecution” of the former president.

Trump, who has been convicted of 34 felony counts and faces an additional 54 charges in three other cases, has long suggested he would try to prosecute his political opponents if he’s elected to a second term.

His suggestions of potentially going after political opponents by weaponizing the Justice Department began more than a year ago, when he was first indicted. Trump has said he would appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Biden and his family if he wins a second term and has argued several times he believes he is justified in doing so because Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed a special counsel to oversee criminal investigations that implicate Trump.

In the final weeks of the campaign, Trump has delivered increasingly fascist rhetoric while leveling threats against his political opponents. Earlier this month, he suggested that “radical left lunatics … the enemy from within … should be very easily handled, if necessary, by the National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military.”

Cheney is not the only Republican publicly warning that Trump will govern as an authoritarian. Former Trump White House Chief of Staff John Kelly stated recently that the former president fits the definition of a fascist, and as president repeatedly expressed a desire to have generals as loyal to him as Adolph Hitler’s.

As previously reported by Rolling Stone, ahead of his 2024 campaign Trump repeatedly asked his close advisers how they felt about bringing back firing squads as a method of execution.

The [former] president believes this would help put the fear of God into violent criminals,” one source told Rolling Stone. “He wanted to do some of these [things] when he was in office, but for whatever reasons didn’t have the chance.”

With his latest attack against Cheney, it seems that alongside fantasizing about lording over a cadre of blindly loyal military leaders, Trump is also mulling over exactly how he would put them to use.

[Katie Johnson] I came to this interview of my free will. No, there was nothing promised to me for doing this interview. Yes, everything that I say at this interview will be the truth.

I met Donald Trump at some parties when I was working for Mr. Jeffrey Epstein. There was about three or four times that I had encounters with Donald Trump. I was 13. The first time that I met Donald Trump was at a party at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion. There was an orgy going on, and he was kind of watching off in the distance. And he basically asked if I could come over and give him a hand job. And at first I wasn't very comfortable with it. This was like my first or second party, and I didn't think that that was my responsibility. But my recruiter told me that I needed to do it. So I agreed to. I said -- sorry, this is a little difficult -- but before I gave him a hand job he kind of slapped my hand away and said, "You need to use a glove." And the recruiter ran over and handed me a glove, and said, "No one touches Mr. Trump's penis without a glove." So I needed to use a glove.

I gave him a hand job and then immediately after he had an orgasm, he left. And I didn't see him again at that party.

Jeffrey Epstein is a billionaire friend of Donald Trump's who was responsible for throwing the sex parties. I originally came to New York trying to be a model, and in my travels, I met a girl named Tiffany there who was very interested in me, and she said that's what she did, is that she helped girls, you know, get what they wanted, and she could help me get into modeling, and that she knew a lot of people that were higher-ups, and that it would be no problem. And she said that I would just basically have to come model at a couple of events and meet some people. It would be no sweat.

So of course I went. You know, it sounded like no big deal. And she was recruiting the girls to come to these parties. And, they all looked, I mean most of them were near my age. There were a couple girls that were maybe 14 or 15, but it seemed to me like we were all very young.

So Jeffrey Epstein knew that I was 13 years old. When he interviewed me, he asked me to get down to my bra and panties, and I thought that was weird. But I mean, modeling, maybe it was something about my figure. And he asked that I give him a massage. And then he asked me my age/ I told him, you know, I told him that I was 13. I told him why I was there, and he basically said, "Well, I'm sure that you'll fit pretty nicely here. And then he tried to basically slip himself inside of me. And I pushed him away, because at that point in time I still believed that there were models, and then there were the girls that did that. Like I thought there was a separation. So, I told him that I wasn't interested in that, but he said that I would do.

And as far as Donald Trump, he knew that I was 13. I believe that Tiffany told him. He seemed to take a liking to me, because I was so young, and I was also a virgin. So, I don't know, but it seemed like he wasn't really into having girls that were liked by the other guys. He kind of liked things to be his first, you know, for lack of a better term. But he was the one who wanted to get to a girl before everyone else did.

Donald Trump knew that I was 13, because the first the first night that I was there, Tiffany actually suggested that, and she had a whole bunch of different wigs then. I expressed interest in them, you know. I always told her that I would love to walk around with blue hair, and so I tried some on, and there was a blonde wig that she said that looked great on me. So I wore that wig. And Donald Trump had specifically asked about me, because I reminded him of his daughter. And Tiffany said, "Well, she's 13 as well." So, he knew the first time that he saw me. But he took a liking to me because I looked like his daughter.

The reason I'm coming out now is when it happened originally, I just wanted to forget about the whole incident. And when I saw that he was running for President [in 2016], I felt it was my responsibility to come out and tell our country what kind of man this person is. I don't think that he should even be the dog catcher, let alone running the greatest country in the world.

After I met Tiffany at the bus station, she basically took me to her house, her apartment, and I got ready. I put on a blonde wig, because it seemed fun to pretend to be someone different, and then we went to the party that I was basically interviewing for. And Jeffrey Epstein was the one that was running the party. He had a quick meeting with everyone who was employed there, and he had a private interview with me.

The first time that I met Jeffrey Epstein, he did try to force himself inside of me without getting the go-ahead, or anything, and then it was probably about the third or fourth party when he basically forced, it was another massage, and it wasn't sex, but there was penetration, and I told him that I didn't want that. But he got a little irritated, so there was something about him that I kind of held a lot of resentment towards him.

By the time that happened, I kind of already had started catching on that maybe I wasn't there for modeling, and maybe I was just getting used for things. And I kind of held him responsible.

I did receive money to go to these parties. After every party I was paid by Mr. Epstein. Out of all the girls that were there with me -- most of them were 13, or 14. I think the oldest one might have been just turned 16. I mean, she'd been there for a while.

It was actually -- it was Tiffany who said he liked to watch other people have sex. I mean, he was a germophobe. He doesn't like germs. So rather than partaking, he just watches.

So I informed him that I was a virgin, so I was basically sorry. So it was Tiffany who introduced us.

The second time that I saw Mr. Trump was the same scenario. He was looking on at an orgy. And Tiffany came over to me and said that Donald Trump had requested that I perform oral sex on him. And I'd never done something like that with anybody, so I was a little nervous. So I walked up to him, and he was standing there very proud-like. and I just kind of moved towards that direction, and he kind of slapped me away, and said, "What are you doing? You know you need to put a condom, like I was some dirty filth or something without a condom. Tiffany ran over and handed me a condom, and she was apologizing profusely to Trump, and she said that would never happen again. And she looked at me and scolded me for being kind of like a child, and that anytime you touched Donald Trump's penis, it needed to have a condom on, or glove, you know. And especially when it comes to performing oral sex.

So I apologized, and then I performed oral sex on him. And again, once he was done, he hopped up and that's the last I saw of him at that party. Some of the things that I noticed that were weird with him was that sometimes, before the parties, he would come over, Jeffrey Epstein and himself, would kind of banter back and forth. And Donald Trump was very racist. He said a lot of racist things. Like there were a lot of comments towards Mr. Epstein being Jewish, and comments like, "You Jewish bastard." And there were some words I didn't even understand -- something about the shape of Epstein's penis being directly related to his mole, and I'm not too familiar with the Jewish tradition, but I'm pretty sure that whatever he was saying wasn't very nice.

He also referred to people of Hispanic background, and he called them Spics. That was around the first time that the World Trade Center had gotten the bombing in the 90s, and he was talking about the towelheads, and how it would just be better off if we didn't let them in, or you know, basically get rid of every one, every single one that was already here. And that just made me really uncomfortable; really, really uncomfortable.

He also loved to call black people "Niggers," and Arabic people he called "Sandniggers."

The only time that he tried to give me some money was our last encounter together, where he acted out a rape fantasy. I was forced to give that money back, because Jeffrey Epstein paid us after the party. So he just gave me the money. I don't even know why. He gave it to me maybe to make me feel more cheap, because it was a rape fantasy to him, but I wasn't playing.

So there were those two times, and then there was after. And the next thing that happened was that Tiffany approached me and said he had a fantasy where he walked in on his maids basically making out, and that it was some type of fantasy for him. So at that point, I was like, "I don't want to be involved with anything that has to do with him." But she's like, "There's nothing that you'll have to do, just he's requesting you to be involved." So I felt like I didn't have a choice there. But his fantasy is basically, he's walking in on his two maids. I was the white maid, and there was a Spanish girl named Maria, who was the Hispanic maid. And we were making out, and he walks in, and he gets really angry, and threatens to call immigration on Maria if she doesn't come over and make things right, and give him a blow job. So while she is over there giving him a blow job, I am just supposed to look scared, like, "Oh no," you know, and cleaning up things, and pretending like I'm trying to go back to my job as a maid. And he was so rude to Maria -- I felt so bad for her -- and I guess it just didn't seem like a fantasy. And it's the weirdest fantasy, you know. He was threatening to call immigration on her.

So she wasn't even near going down to give him oral sex before he slapped her away, and said, "You need to put a condom on." And she's trying to say that she is so sorry, and he's like, "I can't even understand what you're saying," and "Speak English'. He made derogatory comments to her, and then he's like, "You know what? You don't know what you're doing. Have her come over and show you how it's done." And he said that I had to go over there or else he was going to call immigration on Maria. I didn't know if it was true or not. And he said that if I didn't show her how to perform oral sex on him, then he was going to call immigration on her, and then get rid of us both.

You know, anything in relation to him getting off, or being satisfied, or happy, had to do with him being in power, extreme power. And it was always intimidating when he was like that. You didn't really know if it was true, or funny. It's like, if you refuse to play along, would he really call immigration on Maria? Would he really get rid of us both? And I didn't even want to know what that meant. You know -- it wasn't a game. We just felt like it wasn't a game.

The one night that I had the blonde wig on, he mentioned that I reminded him of his daughter. And actually, during the maid fantasy, I didn't have a blonde wig on. I was trying to stay away from blond wigs at the time. But he actually requested -- told -- Tiffany that he wanted me to wear it. Like anytime I had it on, and he'd see me, he would say, "Man, you look just like my daughter. And it wasn't like, "Oh, you remind me of my daughter." It was a sick, evil-like, "You remind me of my daughter." It was just this weird pleasure-sick-smile. Like, I don't even want to know what he was thinking about. I could imagine what he was thinking about.

After the parties would end, we were to report to Mr. Epstein, and basically tell him everything that happened, who and what they liked, and what they disliked, and if there were any requests or if there was talk about anything. That's when we told Mr. Epstein everything. And then he paid us, and we went home. And with me, you know, I would normally get taken to the airport to go back home.

The fact that Trump has a chance to be the next President makes me feel disgusting inside. I've always been proud to be an American, and I think we live in a beautiful country. But I just see him ruining everything. He's horrible. What he portrays on the outside isn't even that great, but people don't even know the half of it -- how evil, sick and twisted that man is.

I have a friend that's been my friend ever since the eighth grade. I confided in her, and she knows all about it. She knows everything. I mean, I destroyed everything from that trip. I couldn't risk my dad finding out. And now I think I'm old enough, but at that point, I didn't want to not be his little girl, you know. I didn't want to lose my dad.

Basically, I never kept proof of any of the trips. I never told my parents because, you know, there would be no good outcome of telling my parents. They would have grounded me, and I would have never been allowed out of the house. My father would have come unglued. I did tell a friend, my best friend, and she's still my best friend to this day. She knows everything. She knows it all.

I'm prepared to do whatever it takes to save the country that I believe that we have. I know what he does behind closed doors. And I'm willing to sacrifice my life to get our country back. And they're right about going in some type of positive direction, but this guy's not gonna take us anywhere positive.

You know, as far as my life changing by coming out with this information, I've thought long and hard about whether or not I should do it. And I've gone back and forth. But I think that the American people need to know what kind of man this person is. And if my life changes because of that, then so be it. But the American people need to know what they're dealing with.

If I had the chance to talk to Donald Trump, I would run the other way. I'm scared of him like I've never been scared of anything else in my entire life. I can't explain it to you, but the fear of him even being in the next room makes me have panic attacks.

The last encounter that I had with Donald Trump, Tiffany approached me about a rape scene that we're supposed to play out, and I didn't like the sound of that at all. But Tiffany promised, ensured me, that if I wasn't comfortable with something, we could stop. That she would be right there, and it wouldn't get out of hand; and it was just a fantasy, and it wasn't really gonna happen. Tiffany was always nice to me. I felt I trusted her. And I wouldn't always trust her, or do what she asked me to, but she was there.

And when he came in, he basically tied me to a bed with pantyhose. And they ties were so tight it hurt to even lay there. And I tried to say something, and his response was "Just shut up; shut up bitch." He was being really, really rough, and it just didn't seem like a fantasy. And I started to get scared. And he was basically ripping my clothes off, and I actually got really freaked out, and I told him, "I don't want to do this." I was screaming for Tiffany, and this was scaring her, and he's like, "Oh, you shut up, too." He just turned into this animal. It was a completely different person. It was like everyone in the room was scared of him and it was like I couldn't do anything about it. And he ripped off all my clothes, and he started to basically have sex with me. And I was screaming, because I never had sex before. It was my first time. And Tiffany was yelling at him too. She was saying that I was a virgin, and he told us to "Just shut the fuck up," and basically took my virginity while I was crying and telling him to stop, and just begging for him to stop. And Tiffany didn't know what else to do either. No one was there to help us, or me.

And so, he basically finishes it, and it didn't take that long at all. I mean, it felt like it was like five and a half hours; it seemed like an eternity. I don't even know how long it was, but he was done, and I was crying, and Tiffany was apologizing. She told me that she would never put me in that situation again. But he came over mad, because I was crying. And he said that I should be thankful that someone like Donald Trump took my virginity. Well, he didn't say "took my virginity." He said I should be glad that someone like Donald Trump popped my cherry and not some pimply little 14-year-old. And speaking to Tiffany, I asked, "What if I get pregnant"? I wasn't even talking to him. I didn't want to talk to him. I was talking to Tiffany. And he said, "Well, you'll get an abortion then, bitch." And then he just walked away. And then I told Tiffany that I needed to go home. And I never went back again.

I guess it's for you to decide. You know, I don't have any kids myself because I'm afraid to have kids, because who knows what kind of damage they can get into. But if you have a 13-year-old daughter, would you be okay with the person who's running our country doing that to your little girl? And I just want people to know. I have faith in our society that it will make the right choice.

He seemed to be taking great pleasure, and enjoyed the dominance and control he had over me. And the more I screamed, the more I got scared, the more he was enraged with power. And it was like he was just charged with it. It was scary.

My experience with Donald Trump has made it to where I can't be in a healthy relationship, I can't be in a relationship without without self-sabotaging it. I don't do well. I mean, I've been in a couple of relationships. I mean they're never of interest to me normally, but one man in particular was a wonderful man, and I couldn't even control myself from self-sabotaging. It was like I had to get him out of my life, and I don't even know why. It was like, anytime anyone loves me I don't feel worth it. I don't even know how to explain it. Like I can be friends, I can have acquaintances with guys, but anytime it's someone who expresses anything else besides that, I can't take any pleasure in it. Whether I mean to or not, it's like I hurt their feelings just so they'll never talk to me again. And make sure that it's not ever a possibility.

Donald Trump destroyed my feeling of self-worth, and my self-esteem, when it just bloomed. It hadn't even had a chance to experience anything.

I have only spoken to to one therapist about, this just recently actually. For a long time I just really tried to forget about it. I tried very hard. But I've been to counseling for other things. I went to counseling for the previous relationship that I was sabotaging. And my counselor said, "Something has happened to you, and you need to deal with that." And I was like, "Hmm." He knew that there was something that had happened where I was self-sabotaging, or sabotaging these relationships. But he said that it was my responsibility to deal with it.

Donald Trump has just destroyed my self-esteem. And I feel like it's destroyed part of my life. The only healthy relationship I could have had, I completely demolished it. And I love to choose the dysfunctional ones that I know I can just push away. After what happened with Donald Trump, I can't trust a man ever again. And thinking about it just makes me sick to my stomach. So when something so traumatic happens to someone who's so young, you never ever really get over it.

-- Katie Johnson's full testimony of 2/11/16, Jun 5, 2020