MeidasTouch
Oct 5, 2023
Highlights:
I would not call Donald Trump a successful real estate developer. You know who can call him a successful real estate developer? People that don't know him well, like Chris Kise and Alina Habba, and don't know what he's all about, and are being paid to say whatever they're saying. He is at best, in his family, a moderately successful real estate management firm and licensing firm about his name. He really doesn't build buildings, and never has, from the ground up, right? From a a giant hole -- you know, of a foundation, you know, below the surface of the earth, all the way to a Topper on the top of a building. That's not really Donald Trump. His father built a lot of apartment buildings in Queens, which is another section of New York, but not a New York developer, or even a worldwide developer. When you see Donald Trump's name emblazoned on buildings in brass or gold, it's likely a licensing deal, where he had very little role in the look and feel of the building. But they paid him a dollar amount in order to put his name on the building. That's called a licensing fee. Maybe he manages the building. Maybe he just looked at some of the furniture, fabric, and electrics, and said yeah, I like those, I don't like those. Use this furniture, not that furniture. That's it. But building a building? That means going to a bank, and getting a construction loan, a series of loans at different phases of the building, as it comes out of the ground. Or multiple houses across a plot of land. That he's not known for. Underneath the fraud that created this multi-billionaire is a reasonably commonplace 100 millionaire that has that business underneath.... He had grandiose theories about himself, and mythology about himself, and big spending habits for him and his family, but a billionaire? A multi-billionaire? A Forbes 400 billionaire? No way. So that's the fraud, right? The avarice and greed of Donald Trump? Underneath it he's a 100 millionaire. But he doesn't like that, so he pumps it up 10 times, 50 times, 100 times, on his financial statement, and he did it -- let me give the example of Mar-a-Lago, once and for all from somebody that's actually visited Mar-a-Lago....
So there's two different Mar-a-Lagos. There's the fantasy Mar-a-Lago of Donald Trump, and his lawyers' creation, that exists in a universe of his own, without a town council, or commissioner, making land use and zoning regulations. Without a land use and zoning map. Or book, or code, that governs and regulates land use and zoning in Palm Beach County. Without a master plan, as they call it in Florida. Without deed restrictions that you've agreed to in order to live on the property. Without -- you can see all the things I've got to leave out -- without conservation easements that you've granted in order to lower your taxes, and promise that you'll keep the green space. If you could get that, if you had all of that, sure, 15 Acres in Palm Beach County, a prime location, not right on the beach, but off the beach, sure, it has value. It's probably several hundred million dollars....
And that's the fraud, right? Because he didn't want to be a 100 millionaire. He wanted to be a multi-billionaire, and beat his daddy. Because his daddy was a 100 millionaire -- Freddy Trump, right? -- when they were performing their own frauds back then. But that didn't content him. And since he had all his financial ruins, and all his financial difficulties, and his bankruptcies, he had to take the Celebrity Apprentice job to pump up his brand, to emblazon it, and stick it on buildings, on licensing deals -- not construction deals -- not development deals. And that is the fraud, and the PT Barnum, and the Bamboozle, of Donald Trump. And it always has been. And people that live and work in New York, that know him, and know people that know him, know that. It's just the American people who didn't know it, because he didn't let them know it. Because he didn't let them have his tax returns, or any of his financial disclosures, before he ran. There's a reason for that.
Think back. Why didn't Donald Trump, why wasn't he more transparent about his finances when he ran? We're seeing why he wasn't. Because it was all a big giant house of cards, a Ponzi scheme, built up on defrauding banks, and making them give him more money, to pump up his net worth than it was really worth.
Popok can’t take Trump’s lawyers’ lying to the people about how much his “trophy” properties are worth anymore. In his Hot Take, Michael Popok who has lived and practiced law in Florida and New York and visited Mar-a-Lago back in the day, explains why the trial team of Habba and Kise are “undereducated” when they discuss Trump’s businesses and his properties value, starting with Mar a Lago.”
Transcript
This is Michael Popok LegalAF. I can't take it anymore. That's why I had to put on these glasses today. I can't take the lying in the opening statements for the fraud trial of the century against Donald Trump and all the Trumpers that just started this week. finally it's here. I say finally it's here, it's only been a year. Leticia James brought her case in September of last year. she's trying her case -- at least the remaining parts of it -- she's already won on summary judgment now -- and they keep lying at every turn, the lawyers for Donald Trump -- Alina Habba -- understood -- Chris Kise -- whatever happened to you? -- about the value of Donald Trump's property and businesses. It's just lies. And I'm finally going to blow it up here. And I'm going to use Mar-a-Lago as an example. From a practicing Florida lawyer, and in New York, I'm uniquely qualified, I believe, and having lived in Palm Beach County, to talk about Mar-A-Lago land use and zoning restrictions that make that property not worth anywhere close to what Donald Trump's lawyers just said in their opening statement. I'm going to explain it here, right now, one place, Meidastouch, on a hot-take, another Popok hot-take.
Let's start with why I'm so fired up this morning over the lying. And I'm going to make an admission. Having watched Donald Trump in action since I was a young man, all the way till now, in his business practices -- I lived in New Jersey -- I watched him operate the casinos -- lived in New York -- watched them operate not a development company -- that's putting it nicely -- I would not call Donald Trump a successful real estate developer. You know who can call him a successful real estate developer? People that don't know him well, like Chris Kise and Alina Habba, and don't know what he's all about, and are being paid to say whatever they're saying. He is at best, in his family, a moderately successful real estate management firm and licensing firm about his name. He really doesn't build buildings, and never has, from the ground up, right? From a a giant hole -- you know, of a foundation, you know, below the surface of the earth, all the way to a Topper on the top of a building. That's not really Donald Trump. His father built a lot of apartment buildings in Queens, which is another section of New York, but not a New York developer, or even a worldwide developer. When you see Donald Trump's name emblazoned on buildings in brass or gold, it's likely a licensing deal, where he had very little role in the look and feel of the building. But they paid him a dollar amount in order to put his name on the building. That's called a licensing fee. Maybe he manages the building. Maybe he just looked at some of the furniture, fabric, and electrics, and said yeah, I like those, I don't like those. Use this furniture, not that furniture. That's it. But building a building? That means going to a bank, and getting a construction loan, a series of loans at different phases of the building, as it comes out of the ground. Or multiple houses across a plot of land. That he's not known for. Underneath the fraud that created this multi-billionaire is a reasonably commonplace 100 millionaire that has that business underneath. There's a reason that Donald Trump became an anchor or a host of the Celebrity Apprentice. Name for me -- I did this on another hot-take -- name for me -- I'll give you time -- the amount of successful billionaire real estate developers sitting in New York, or other places, that would think to host a reality TV show, or did? None. The reason Donald Trump did, is he was on the balls of his ass financially, having gone through three bankruptcies, including bankrupting a casino in Atlantic City, and being put on an allowance by the bankruptcy judge, and so he didn't have that much money. He had grandiose theories about himself, and mythology about himself, and big spending habits for him and his family, but a billionaire? A multi-billionaire? A Forbes 400 billionaire? No way. So that's the fraud, right? The avarice and greed of Donald Trump? Underneath it he's a 100 millionaire. But he doesn't like that, so he pumps it up 10 times, 50 times, 100 times, on his financial statement, and he did it -- let me give the example of Mar-a-Lago, once and for all from somebody that's actually visited Mar-a-Lago.
Salty our producer, can we get arrows? Okay. I've been there, and I remember the deal, because I lived in Palm Beach County when this happened. And I watched it. Mar-a-Lago was sort of a falling down mansion, right? -- like a Gray Gardens type mansion -- that was owned, I think, by the Post family, if I'm getting my numbers right, my math right. Palm Beach, the island of Palm Beach, the municipality of Palm Beach, which is on the beach itself, didn't know what to do with it. And Donald Trump came in, and for like no money -- I forget the purchase price, but it was really low I don't know if it was 5 million or 10 million. [10 million] I think it was even less than that. And he wanted to live there, but he also wanted to redevelop it as a club. It wasn't a club, it was a private home. And Palm Beach County has a bunch of clubs, and they didn't really want anymore. And they didn't want him living at it. So he had to make a series of commitments -- deed restrictions -- in the development of Mar-a-Lago, in order to get approved to live there. If he didn't, if he just wanted to tear it down, and put up something else, he probably could have put up a single family mansion. You know, it's 15 acres, so it was a big piece of property. But they weren't going to let him put like 15 homes on there. I mean, they might have at the time, 40 years ago, maybe, but he didn't want to do that. He wanted to keep the mansion, he wanted to do it on the cheap -- refurbish it as a club private club, and then live in it. And they were like "eh, living in it, we don't like the living in it part." Palm Beach County and Palm Beach itself, the city, and he, agreed to a bunch of deed restrictions about the development of the property, which lowered tremendously the ultimate value of that property. Indeed, restrictions in the real estate world, we say, it runs with the land. You can't get rid of them. And you can't get rid of, it's very hard to get rid of zoning and land use restrictions that you've agreed on as a condition of letting you buy the building. And that's what Palm Beach is all hot and bothered about. Palm Beach's current council, or commissioner, was probably like "thank God he's not coming before us right now, there's no way we would agree to do any of these things." The only way for that piece of 15 acres, which is arguably, you know, near the beach, and valuable, to have the value ascribed to it by Donald Trump and his lawyers, who don't know real estate at all, in their opening statement, would be if there were no deed restrictions, and no conservation easements. Meaning, Donald Trump got a tremendous tax break, because he said most of the 15 acres was going to be conserved as green space, not developed, which was a big sigh of relief to people in Palm Beach, because this isle of Palm Beach, they all have like gazillion dollar, tens of millions of dollars of homes. And they didn't want 15 new homes to come on the market, developed by Donald Trump, with a giant black and gold Donald Trump sign, and they certainly didn't want a tower of, you know, 30 40, 50 stories of condos, with hundreds of condominiums flooding the market, lowering their property value, and putting lots of people on the roads and infrastructure of Palm Beach. I mean they like their little enclave. And there used to be a joke that if they could roll up -- there's a two bridges that go between Palm Beach, the island, the rich enclave, sort of the Beverly Hills of that area, and West Palm Beach, where the working class lived and worked, that they could roll up the bridges at night, they would. But they can't. That's why, if you go to Palm Beach itself, the municipal beach, there's no place to go to the bathroom. There's no place to get a sandwich or a soda. Because they don't want the public to be there soiling their beaches, spoiling their pristine beaches. They want to walk out of their condos, or their houses, go to the beach, and go back, and not have to see anybody. And so that's the place that said, "you want to live there, that's weird. You got to give us all these restrictions." And that lowers the value.
Yes, I will agree with Alina Habba, that if you could use the property for its highest and best use, without regard to zoning law, land use law, deed restrictions, tax restrictions, and easements -- just all those things -- and you could develop the property freely, for whatever the land use and zoning -- or no land use and zoning -- would allow you, if you could just cram 30 houses on there to develop -- even though there's at least a one acre requirement per building lot -- if you could just put up a hundred story building in the middle of Palm Beach County -- although you never could -- if you could do all of that, it could be worth a billion dollars. Or if -- to use her phrase in the opening statement -- there's a buyer for it at a billion dollars -- that's real estate, not fraud. No, that's fraud. Because if anybody's paying a billion dollars for a property that's worth 50 million, then they're hoping that Donald Trump gets back into office, and they're trying to curry favor, and that's what Judge Engoron said in his summary judgment ruling in favor of the New York attorney general just last Tuesday, finding at the heart of the case that there has a been persistent fraud perpetrated by Donald Trump, and all the others, for years, that's put hundreds of millions of dollars in his pocket. It overinflated his net worth by billions of dollars. And he said, "yes" -- in a footnote -- "you might be able to find the hypothetical Saudi Arabian, or somebody from Dubai, or somebody from China, to buy the property at some rate that's not tied to the market, not tied to the buy and sell of the market, but that probably would be for influence pedaling, and influence buying, more than property value."
And that's where we are.
So there's two different Mar-a-Lagos. There's the fantasy Mar-a-Lago of Donald Trump, and his lawyers' creation, that exists in a universe of his own, without a town council, or commissioner, making land use and zoning regulations. Without a land use and zoning map. Or book, or code, that governs and regulates land use and zoning in Palm Beach County. Without a master plan, as they call it in Florida. Without deed restrictions that you've agreed to in order to live on the property. Without -- you can see all the things I've got to leave out -- without conservation easements that you've granted in order to lower your taxes, and promise that you'll keep the green space. If you could get that, if you had all of that, sure, 15 Acres in Palm Beach County, a prime location, not right on the beach, but off the beach, sure, it has value. It's probably several hundred million dollars.
I'll give you an example. 10 years ago a piece of dirt, just dirt, and this is 10 years ago, in Miami, off Brickle, on the water, to be used for a giant Tower, went for $50 million. And then they put a giant gazillion dollar building on it 70 stories high, and made themselves a billion dollars. So $50 million didn't really mean much. So yes, if you could develop 15 acres, without regard to law, zoning easements, deed restrictions, or anything else, it could be worth a lot more money than what it's currently worth. But then if you layer back on all of the restrictions I've just outlined, which which reduce, reduce, reduce the value, the use of the property, the appraised value of the property, down, down, down, then you're down to the 50 or 60 or $70 million, or whatever it is that the New York attorney general has subscribed to it. I'm not going down as low as the 18 or 20 million that the Palm Beach County Tax Assessor's office has assigned to it, cuz I'll be frank -- I lived in Palm Beach County. I've had houses that have been assessed. And in in Miami Dade County, the property assessor is usually behind the market. The market is usually a bit hotter than the property assessor. It could be off by up to 50%. But that's not what the New York attorney general is saying. We're not using the appraised value. And Engoron is saying, "I'm not using the appraised value of the assessor's office." They're using other math that gets it to about 50 to 60 million -- maybe 70 million tops. But not 780 million, right? Not the entire amount that Fox News just paid Dominion voting machines for their defamation. That amount. That's the amount of the miss between the value of what the property is really worth, of what Donald Trump and his people, in their opening statement, say it's worth.
And that's the fraud, right? Because he didn't want to be a 100 millionaire. He wanted to be a multi-billionaire, and beat his daddy. Because his daddy was a 100 millionaire -- Freddy Trump, right? -- when they were performing their own frauds back then. But that didn't content him. And since he had all his financial ruins, and all his financial difficulties, and his bankruptcies, he had to take the Celebrity Apprentice job to pump up his brand, to emblazon it, and stick it on buildings, on licensing deals -- not construction deals -- not development deals. And that is the fraud, and the PT Barnum, and the Bamboozle, of Donald Trump. And it always has been. And people that live and work in New York, that know him, and know people that know him, know that. It's just the American people who didn't know it, because he didn't let them know it. Because he didn't let them have his tax returns, or any of his financial disclosures, before he ran. There's a reason for that.
Think back. Why didn't Donald Trump, why wasn't he more transparent about his finances when he ran? We're seeing why he wasn't. Because it was all a big giant house of cards, a Ponzi scheme, built up on defrauding banks, and making them give him more money, to pump up his net worth than it was really worth.
I'm tired of hearing about Mar-a-Lago, and the property that exists in Donald Trump's mind, freed of any restrictions, zoning law, land use law, Master plans, easements, conservation easements, or anything else, where he can just, in a fantasy world, put up a 100 story tower, like he's developing in Dubai, and not on the Isle of Palm Beach. Or he can develop hundreds of houses in a place where you can only develop, tops, probably about ten.
So don't you be fooled. I'm not going to blow smoke or sunshine on hot-takes. I bring them to you about every hour on the Meidastouch Network, exclusively, one place, right here. And then on Wednesdays and Saturdays, if you didn't already know, I co-founded and co-anchor the leading podcast at the intersection -- talk about real estate -- the valuable corner of law, justice, and politics. I do it with co-anchors Saturday and Wednesdays. We put it on audio podcast platforms. And you can follow me on all things social media at MsPopok.
Until the next hot-take, till the next Legal AF, this is Michael Popok, reporting.