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Re: Dominion voting machines demands pro-Trump attorney Sidn

Postby admin » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:55 am

Dominion Voting Systems slams Patrick Byrne’s bid to dismiss $1.7 billion lawsuit: Dominion is suing Byrne for spreading baseless claims of election fraud.
by Bryan Schott
the Salt Lake Tribune
Dec. 22, 2021, 7:44 a.m.
Updated: 8:56 a.m.

In August, Dominion Voting Systems sued former Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne for $1.73 billion for his repeated false claims that the company’s voting machines helped to steal the 2020 election from Donald Trump. Last month, Byrne moved to dismiss the lawsuit.

Dominion’s response to Byrne’s gambit does not pull any punches.

The filing rips Byrne for attempting to run from the “false and defamatory statements about Dominion” he pushed for several months. Dominion’s response lays out in detail each of Byrne’s claims they say are untrue and harmful:

Dominion’s voting software was built for Hugo Chávez to rig elections;

Dominion intentionally and purposefully designed and built its voting software to facilitate systemic election fraud;

Dominion machines flipped votes from Trump to Biden in the 2020 Presidential Election, including through the use of a secret algorithm, even in jurisdictions where Dominion machines were not used;

Dominion ran a rigged 2018 federal election in Dallas, Texas (a jurisdiction where Dominion machines were not even used);

Dominion allowed foreign countries, including China, to hack its voting machines during the 2020 Presidential Election and flip votes from Trump to Biden;

Dominion bribed senior officials in at least two states to win contracts to supply voting machines to those jurisdictions;

Dominion servers were used in the 2016 Democratic presidential primary to steal votes for Hillary Clinton and that former Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich was murdered because he knew it; and

Dominion ordered and paid for the illegal shredding of ballots from the 2020 Election.

Dominion says Byrne’s statements were made with malice because he “published claims that are so inherently improbable that only a reckless person could have believed them” and that Byrne manufactured fake evidence to support his narrative about election fraud.

”Byrne committed to tell lies about Dominion in August 2020. He continues to tell lies about Dominion today,” it concludes.

Shortly after the 2020 election, Byrne jumped on baseless claims of election fraud, claiming he had an army of “hackers and cyber sleuths” working to prove that Trump won instead of Joe Biden.

There is no evidence to support that claim. His election fraud claims culminated with an Oval Office meeting in December involving Trump, former national security adviser Gen. Michael Flynn and lawyer Sidney Powell.

Earlier this year, Flynn and Byrne both spoke at the conspiracy-soaked WeCanAct conference in Salt Lake City.

Byrne resigned as CEO of Overstock in 2019 after publicly disclosing his relationship with alleged Russian spy Maria Butina, claiming his romantic involvement with her was at the behest of “Men in Black” and businessman Warren Buffett.

In addition to the suit against Byrne, Dominion has also filed multibillion-dollar lawsuits against Powell, Fox News, OANN, Newsmax, Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani and MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell.

Byrne has until Jan. 5 to respond.
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Re: Dominion voting machines demands pro-Trump attorney Sidn

Postby admin » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:55 am

Fox News' Sean Hannity says he knew all along Trump lost the election
by David Folkenflik
NPR
December 22, 20229:17 AM ET

Fox News star Sean Hannity – one of former President Donald Trump's strongest allies on the air and one of his closest advisers off it – admitted under oath that he never believed the lie that Trump was cheated of victory in the 2020 presidential election by a voting tech company.

That stands in contrast to what played out on some of Fox's biggest shows – including Hannity's. On television, Fox News hosts, stars and guests amplified and embraced such wild and false claims, made by Trump, his campaign lawyers and surrogates, presenting them to millions of viewers.

Hannity and a top Fox News executive who oversees prime-time programs told a different story about Trump's false claims of fraud under oath and in front of attorneys, during separate depositions in a $1.6 billion defamation suit. While the depositions happened in August, their statements emerged yesterday in a Delaware Superior Court hearing relating to a series of motions by the two sides in the case.

"I did not believe it for one second," Hannity testified, according to an attorney for Colorado-based Dominion Voting Systems, who was offering it as a precise quote.

Meade Cooper, Fox News' executive vice president, "confirmed under oath she never believed the lies about Dominion," the Dominion attorney, Stephen Shackelford, Jr., also said.

"Tucker Carlson, he tried to squirm out of it at his deposition," Shackelford added, and then alluded to the Fox News star's texts from November and December 2020, when Judge Eric Davis cut Shackelford off.

Those sworn interviews took place during what's called the discovery phase of the case, in preparation for trial, which is scheduled for April.

Hannity gave airtime to election falsehoods he says he didn't believe

Dominion Voting Systems' suit against Fox News and its parent company, Fox Corp, is roiling the network, the corporation and the Murdoch family that controls them both. Dominion alleges it was unjustly damaged by the false claims that its machines were intentionally rerouting Trump's votes for Joe Biden.

Those claims were broadcast on conservative media, most prominently Fox News, after Election Night. Dominion alleges that was a concerted effort from the top to bottom of Fox to win back viewers after the network was the first to project the key swing state of Arizona for Biden. Trump denounced Fox and millions of his supporters abandoned the network that month. The Murdochs and Fox stood by the call of Arizona.

As NPR first reported, Fox News CEO Suzanne Scott warned colleagues "we can't give the crazies an inch."

And yet, Hannity was among those who gave airtime to Trump's claims. On Nov. 30, 2020, for example, he invited Trump campaign attorney Sidney Powell on his program for a "one-on-one" interview. By then, she had tied together Trump bogeymen, as the Daily Beast noted in a write-up, including "the dead Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez, liberal philanthropist George Soros, communist Chinese money, and the CIA."

Hannity and Fox News host Jeanine Pirro were among those network stars who gave Powell valuable minutes to allege that the voting machine software was designed to hand over Trump votes to Biden, and affirming her frustration that Democrats would not aid her effort for more information about Dominion's machines.

Fox Business star Maria Bartiromo promoted the lies in an interview with Trump, his first on television after the election. Lou Dobbs returned to the topic repeatedly. Dobbs left Fox Business just after Smartmatic filed its lawsuit.

Insights that could help Dominion build its case against Fox

The brief insights into what those key Fox figures said during recent depositions echoed an earlier disclosure, first reported by NPR: A junior producer had emailed colleagues shortly after the 2020 election begging them to keep Fox star Pirro from repeating lies she had pulled from crackpot conspiracy theory websites.

To win in court, Dominion must build a defamation case showing Fox stars and decision-makers knew these claims of election fraud were lies, but let them be broadcast anyway, or were negligent in disregarding strong warning signs. The remarks by Hannity and Cooper appear to help the voting tech firm's legal team construct its case. Hannity made similar remarks saying Trump had lost in private texts with his final White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows; in this instance, however, Hannity has sworn under oath that he never believed any of the former president's claims.

Fox says the allegations were about an inherently newsworthy event–the election–made by an inherently newsworthy source, the sitting president. It argues the case is an affront to free speech principles. And it appears to be readying a defense in part based on convincing a jury that Dominion cannot prove intent on Fox's part or the financial harm to the firm it claims.

Testimony given under oath during this discovery process is not available to the public, including the depositions of top stars, executives and the Murdochs themselves.

Other documents are sealed or redacted, which means certain words, sentences and even paragraphs or pages are blacked out and unreadable by the public. Judge Davis warned that the fact some material may prove embarrassing is not enough to keep it out of the public eye. Even so, Fox News won the right yesterday to keep some documents sealed, despite arguments advanced by Dominion's legal team.

During yesterday's nearly three-hour-long hearing, attorneys also debated whether Smartmatic, another voting tech company and a competitor of Dominion, could intervene in the case. Smartmatic is seeking access some of those heavily redacted or confidential documents for potential use in its own defamation case against Fox, filed in a New York court in 2021. That case is not as far along in the legal process as Dominion's. Judge Davis dismissed Smartmatic's request.

In an order issued today, Davis combined the two technically separate, but parallel cases Dominion has brought against Fox News and Fox Corp in Delaware. The judge also addressed concerns raised by Dominion that Fox News and Fox Corp has failed to share the materials it needs to make its case. Judge Davis compelled Fox News and Fox Corp to produce all material that it is required to in discovery by January 9th and a corporate representative and attorney for each will have to certify that it has shared everything necessary.

Fox Corp boss Lachlan Murdoch, his son, already sat for a deposition in Los Angeles. His father - and the media empire's founder - Rupert Murdoch was scheduled to be deposed over two consecutive mornings earlier this month. But that had been delayed. Judge Davis's order holds that the elder Murdoch and all other outstanding witnesses must sit for depositions next month.
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Re: Dominion voting machines demands pro-Trump attorney Sidn

Postby admin » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:32 am

Fox News, at apex of 'ecosystem of disinformation,' faces potential legal comeuppance
by Alex Wagner
Jan 20, 2023

Jeremy Peters, media and politics reporter for The New York Times, and David Plouffe, former Obama campaign manager, about the $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit filed by Dominion Voting Systems against Fox News, for which Rupert Murdoch is sitting for a two-day deposition, and the corrosive effect Fox News has had on U.S. politics and Murdoch's media empire has had on politics around the world.



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THAT FOX NEWS COULD FINALLY BE
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PAYING A LOT FOR ITS LIES.
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JOINING US NOW ARE JEREMY
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PETERS, NEW YORK TIMES MEDIA
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REPORTER, AND AN MSNBC
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CONTRIBUTOR, AND DAVID PLOUFFE,
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FORMER WHITE HOUSE SENIOR
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ADVISER UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA.
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THANK YOU GUYS BOTH FOR BEING
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HERE WITH ME AS WE TRY TO
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UNPACK WHAT I THINK HAS BEEN
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ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS
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FORCES IN AMERICAN POLITICS,
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THE RISE AND RISE OF FOX NEWS.
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JEREMY, WHERE DOES THIS LAWSUIT
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STAND?
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JUST FROM A SHAWN KENNEDY QUOTE
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THAT HE IS SAYING, BOLDLY, I
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DID NOT BELIEVE THOSE LIES?
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HOW DOES THE DOMINIONS CASE STAND,
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AS YOU SEE IT?
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>> IT IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST
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DEFAMATION LAWSUITS THAT FIRST
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AMENDMENT SCHOLARS WILL TELL
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YOU HAS EVER BEEN COMPILED
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AGAINST A MAJOR MEDIA
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ORGANIZATION.
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IT IS AN EXTRAORDINARY CASE.
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BECAUSE, AS YOU LAID OUT
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PERFECTLY WELL, FOX IS AN
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EXTRAORDINARILY POWERFUL
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ENTITY.
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IT'S A CULTURAL FORCE AS WELL
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AS A POLITICAL FORCE, AS WELL
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AS A MEDIA FORCE.
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AND IT IS AN IDENTITY TO THE
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PEOPLE WHO WATCH IT.
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AND SO, TO HAVE THEM
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POTENTIALLY ON THE HOOK FOR
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LYING TO THEIR AUDIENCE, WHICH
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HAS BEEN FAIRLY WELL DOCUMENTED,
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BUT NOT YET TRIED IN A COURT OF
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LAW, IS --
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THIS IS SO FAR ALONG, ALEX,
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THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN A CASE
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GET THIS FAR AGAINST A MAJOR
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MEDIA COMPANY IN A VERY, VERY
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LONG TIME.
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>> AND THIS IS --
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THE FACT THAT RUPERT MURDOCH
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HIMSELF IS SITTING FOR A
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DEPOSITION IS MEANINGFUL, IT
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WOULD SEEM.
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IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A CASE
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TO BE MADE THAT HE WAS CALLING
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THE SHOTS HERE, THAT HE KNEW
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THESE LIES WERE GOING TO BE
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BROADCAST, AND INDEED, HE
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WANTED THEM TO BE.
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>> IT'S SO MEANINGFUL THAT,
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TYPICALLY, YOU WOULD SEE
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COMPANIES LIKE FOX SETTLING
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THESE CASES BEFORE THE
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CHAIRMAN'S EVER DEPOSED.
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THE FACT THAT HE SAT FOR TWO
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DAYS OF DEPOSITIONS TELLS YOU
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HOW FAR ALONG THIS CASE IS, AND
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WHAT KIND OF EVIDENCE THAT
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DOMINION HAS AMASSED AGAINST
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FOX.
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TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW
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SERIOUS IT IS, SEAN HANNITY HAS
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BEEN BACK FOR TWO DEPOSITIONS.
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THE FIRST ONE WAS NOT ENOUGH.
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DOMINION --
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MORE EVIDENCE OF HIS POSSIBLE
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KNOWING THAT THEY WERE
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SPREADING FALSEHOODS ON THE
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AIR.
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JANINE PIRRO ALSO HAS BEEN BACK
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FOR A SECOND DEPOSITION.
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SUZANNE SCOTT, THE CEO OF FOX
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NEWS, WAS ALSO CALLED BACK FOR
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A SECOND DEPOSITION.
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BUT ULTIMATELY, THAT DIDN'T
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HAPPEN.
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SO, OVER THE COURSE OF THIS
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CASE, DOMINION HAS UNCOVERED
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MORE AND MORE TEXT MESSAGES AND
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EMAILS SHOWING THAT PEOPLE AT
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FOX KNEW WHAT THEY WERE PUTTING
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ON THE AIR PROBABLY WAS NOT
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TRUE BUT DID SO ANYWAY.
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AND THAT IS THE KIND OF
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EVIDENCE THAT A JURY WILL LOOK
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AT AND ULTIMATELY DECIDE IF
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THEY SHOULD PAY 1.6 BILLION
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DOLLARS.

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>> DAVID, FROM A POLITICAL
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PERSPECTIVE, AS SOMEONE WHO
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KNOWS WELL WHAT IT IS LIKE TO
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BE IN A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN,
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AND WHAT WORK GOES INTO BEING
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IN A WHITE HOUSE, AND HOW
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IMPORTANT INFORMATION IS IN
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THIS LANDSCAPE, WHAT IS THE
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MEANING OF --
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TO SOMEONE WHO WORKS IN
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DEMOCRATIC POLITICS?
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>> WELL, ALEX, I'M NOT SURE
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THERE IS ANYTHING MORE
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DANGEROUS OR DEVASTATING TO
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AMERICAN DEMOCRACY THEN THE
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FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE --
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FOX NEWS OVER THE LAST COUPLE
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OF YEARS.
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IN FACT, RUPERT MURDOCH HAS
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RAIN TERROR AND DEVASTATION ON
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THREE CONTINENTS.
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SO, IT'S AN ENORMOUSLY
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IMPORTANT --
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IT'S NOT JUST WHO WINS OR LOSES
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THE ELECTION CYCLE.
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OVER A COURSE OF DECADES NOW,
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FOX AND RUPERT MURDOCH, HERE IN
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THE UNITED STATES, AND IN
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AUSTRALIA AND THE UK, A REALLY
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DONE TREMENDOUS DAMAGE.
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I DO THINK THERE HAS ALREADY
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BEEN AN EFFECT --
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2022 ELECTION, WHICH I THINK,
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BY ANY REASONABLE MEASURE, WAS
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A DISASTER, FOR REPUBLICANS,
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EVEN THOUGH THEY NARROWLY WON
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THE HOUSE.
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YOU DID NOT SEE THE SAME --
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OTHER THAN KARI LAKE, AND I
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THINK FOX WAS CAREFUL ABOUT HOW
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THEY COVERED THAT --
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YOU DID NOT SEE THE SAME
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PLAYBOOK THAT YOU SAW IN 20.
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AND I THINK, IN PART, IT'S
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BECAUSE THE LAWYERS ARE
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CONCERNED ABOUT THESE.
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CASES AND I THINK THERE WAS A
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BRUSH BACK.
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--
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ULTIMATELY, THEY HAVE TO PAY
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BIG DAMAGES HERE, THIS COULD BE
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AN IMPORTANT PART OF SECURING
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DEMOCRACY.
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BECAUSE WITHOUT FOX --
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AND OF COURSE, FOX IS LIKE THE
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PIED PIPER.
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THE SINCLAIR STATIONS ARE OR
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THE ONLINE OUTLETS, THEY ALL
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FOLLOW, RIGHT?
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SO, IF FOX IS NOT CALLING THE
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PLAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO
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CHALLENGE THE ELECTION AND SAY
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THEY ARE STOLEN, THEN I THINK
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THERE IS LESS OXYGEN.
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SO THIS COULD NOT BE MORE
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IMPORTANT TO, I THINK, THE
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REALLY STILL --
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QUESTION OF WHETHER WE ARE
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GOING TO REMAIN A DEMOCRACY.
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>> TO FOLLOW ON, THAT DAVID
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PLOUFFE, I THINK A LOT OF
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PEOPLE WOULD SAY, IT'S NOT JUST
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FOX.
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IT'S NOT ALL LATE AT FOX'S
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DOORSTEP.
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THAT'S ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE.
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THERE'S THE INTERNET.
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THEY'RE SPIN-OFF CONSERVATIVE
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MEDIA NETWORKS THAT ARE LOOSELY
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BASED IN FACT, IF BASED IN FACT
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AT ALL.
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BUT AT THE VERY REALITY IS THAT
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FOX IS STILL SEEN --
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MAINSTREAM NEWS OUTLET.
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IT IS ON IN AIRPORTS.
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IT IS ON IN SPORTS PORTS.
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IT IS ON IN HOTELS.
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AND THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN
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ONE AMERICA NEWS NETWORK AND
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IT'S OTHER RELATED SPINOFFS.
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THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM EVEN
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THE ALEX JONES HOUR OF WHATEVER
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YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
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AND I THINK, WHEN YOU WERE IN A
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WHITE HOUSE, WHEN YOU ARE
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TRYING TO GET A MESSAGE ACROSS,
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GETTING FOX NEWS TO CARRY YOUR
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NEWS, YOUR INFORMATION, IS
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CRITICAL TO REACHING A PART OF
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THE COUNTRY, IS IT NOT?
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>> THERE'S NO QUESTION, ALEX,
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LIKE YOU, I HAVE --
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THIS VERY CAREFULLY.
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FOX HAS ITS ORIGINAL AUDIENCE.
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IT HAS OBVIOUSLY GOT EVEN A
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BIGGER AUDIENCE WHEN PEOPLE
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SHARE THAT CONTENT ACROSS THEIR
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SOCIAL MEDIA NETWORKS.
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BUT FOX IS THE COACH.
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SO, WHEN FOX LATCHES ONTO A
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STORYLINE, TO A NARRATIVE, THAT
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TRICKLES DOWN.
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SO, WHETHER IT'S OAN OR
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BREITBART OR THE SINCLAIR
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STATIONS OR TALK RADIO, THEY
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ARE GOING TO FOLLOW.
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SO, WHEN FOXES, THIS IS WHAT WE
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ARE GOING TO DO, GANG, AND THAT
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IS WHAT THEY DO.
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SO, IT'S AN ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM OF
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DISINFORMATION THAT THEY
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CONTROL.
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AND WE HAVE REALLY SEEN NOTHING
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LIKE THAT IN AMERICA, CERTAINLY,
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IN TERMS OF ITS IMPORT.
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AND THOSE NUMBERS YOU SHOWED
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WERE REALLY IMPORTANT, WHICH IS,
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THEY HAVE NOT DECLINED THAT --
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MUCH WHICH I GUESS YOU WOULD
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TAKE AS A POSITIVE IN TERMS OF
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PEOPLE'S REACTION TO JANUARY
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6TH --
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BUT THERE'S NO DOUBT THE FOX
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EFFECT HAS SORT OF KEPT A
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CEILING ON THAT, UNFORTUNATELY.
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BECAUSE --
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THOSE NUMBERS CREEPING UP TO 70
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OR 80% IN TERMS OF PEOPLE
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CORRECTLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT
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JANUARY 6TH WAS.
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SO YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
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YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK AT FOX.
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THEY ARE AT THE TOP OF THE
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PYRAMID AND THEY BASICALLY --
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ALL THE SEWAGE FLOWS DOWN FROM
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THEM AND IT GETS PICKED UP BY
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OTHER OUTLETS.
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>> JEREMY, YOU ARE NODDING YOUR
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HEAD AND AGREEMENT WHEN DAVID
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WAS TALKING ABOUT A MORE
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CAUTIOUS APPROACH ON FOX THE
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2020 ELECTIONS AND NIXON
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ELECTION DENIALISM.
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--
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THIS LAWSUIT IS HAVING A
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CHILLING EFFECT, --
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OTHERWISE UNCENSORED SPOUTING
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OF LIES?
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>> LET'S NOT FORGET WHERE THIS
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WHOLE EPISODE STARTED.
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FOX ACTUALLY DID THE RIGHT
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THING AND TOLD IT'S AUDIENCE
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THE TRUTH ON ELECTION NIGHT IN
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2020.
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>> VERY TRUE.
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>> WHICH IS THAT JOE BIDEN WON
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--
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THAT TRUTH, HOWEVER, IT WAS
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INCREDIBLY INCONVENIENT FOR
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FOXES PROFITABILITY.
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THEIR RATINGS FELL OFF A CLIFF.
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AND IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN THOSE
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READINGS, WITH DOMINION ARGUING,
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AND WHAT WE PRESUME THEY HAVE
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BEEN UNCOVERED IN THE DISCOVERY
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PROCESS OF THIS LAWSUIT --
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IS THAT MANY FOX HOST AND
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EXECUTIVE SAID WE NEED TO SHIFT
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THE STORYLINE HERE AND TALK
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ABOUT FRAUD.
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BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT TRUMP IS
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TALKING ABOUT.
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SO WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS
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THEY ARE NOW OVERCORRECTING FOR
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THOSE FALSEHOODS.
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THAT THEY ALLOWED RUDY GIULIANI,
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THEY ALLOWED CINDY POWELL, TO
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COME ON THE AIR AND SAY, JUST
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COMPLETELY IRRATIONAL, PHONY
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THINGS --
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AND NOW, IF YOU LOOK --
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JUST LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED AT
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ELECTION NIGHT IN 2022.
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FOX WAS THE SLOWEST TO CALL
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MANY RACES.
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INITIALLY, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN
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--
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WHEN ROGER AILES WAS RUNNING
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THAT NETWORK, THEY WERE THE
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FIRST.
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BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THAT WAS
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WHAT THEIR AUDIENCE WANTED.
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NOW THEY ARE NOT SO SURE.
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THEY WERE VERY CAREFUL.
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THEY WERE THE SLOWEST TO CALL
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THE HOUSE OF FOR --
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RATHER, THE SENATE FOR THE
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DEMOCRATS, BECAUSE IT WAS NOT
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WHAT THEIR AUDIENCE WANTED.
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>> ONE MORE TO YOU --
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IN TERMS OF THE DELETERIOUS
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EFFECT FOX HAS, BEYOND THE
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MISINFORMATION, AND THE
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DISINFORMATION, THE ACTIVE
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SPREADING OF LIES --
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THERE IS A TENDENCY TO CHAMPION
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AUTOCRATS.
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TUCKER CARLSON TOOK A SHOW TO
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HUNGARY AND INTERVIEWED VIKTOR
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ORBAN.
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THERE ARE MORE SUBTLE AND
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PERFECTLY LEGAL WAYS IN WHICH
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THEY CHAMPION FORCES THAT ARE
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DECIDEDLY ANTI DEMOCRATIC.
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AND MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, AS
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LONG AS THAT SORT OF STRAIN OF
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POLITICS IS SUCCESSFUL, AND IT
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KEEPS ON BEING SOMETHING THAT
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FOX CAN LEGALLY DO, WHAT
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RECOURSE IS THERE FOR THE REST
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OF THE COUNTRY?
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>> IT IS A GREAT QUESTION,
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ALEX.
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I THINK --
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NOT THE ENTIRE NETWORK AND
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CERTAINLY NOT 24 HOURS A DAY,
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BUT CERTAINLY SOME OF THEIR
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EVENING HOURS, YOU DO FEEL LIKE
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SOME OF THOSE PERSONALITIES
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WOULD LOVE TO BE STATE
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SPONSORED MEDIA IN AN
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AUTOCRATIC REGIME.
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THEY ADMIRE SOME OF THE LEADERS
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IN THESE OTHER SYSTEMS.
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SO, I THINK WHAT IT IS GOING TO
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TAKE IS, IN PRIMARIES, THE
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REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY
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BEING THE BIG ONE IN FRONT OF
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US, BUT OVER THE NEXT TWO
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ELECTION CYCLES, LET'S, SAY YOU
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SEE MORE REPUBLICANS FOR
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CONGRESS, FOR GOVERNOR, FOR
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SECRETARY OF STATE, FOR
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PRESIDENT, BEING ABLE TO WIN
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WITHOUT EMBRACING, BASICALLY,
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THIS ANTI-DEMOCRACY, PRO
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AUTOCRACY ARGUMENT --
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NOW, THAT IS HARD TO DO WHEN
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THE BIGGEST MEGAPHONE CONTINUES
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TO SHOUT THAT FROM THE
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ROOFTOPS.
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THAT, IN FACT, THERE IS
9:57
SOMETHING TO ADMIRE ABOUT
9:58
AUTOCRACIES --
9:59
THERE ARE OUR DEMOCRACY IS
10:01
DEEPLY FLAWED --
10:02
THAT THINGS LIKE REPLACEMENT
10:04
THEORY --
10:05
WHITE POWER OUR SOMETIMES ON
10:06
THAT NETWORK.
10:07
THAT IS A BIG CONCERN.
10:08
BUT I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT
10:10
THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE.
10:11
I WILL FEEL, CERTAINLY, BETTER
10:13
ABOUT OUR DEMOCRACY WHEN YOU
10:14
BEGIN TO SEE MORE REPUBLICANS
10:17
WHO, BASICALLY, ARE DEEPLY
10:19
CONSERVATIVE, DON'T AGREE WITH
10:20
DEMOCRATS ON HARDLY ANY ISSUES,
10:22
BUT BASICALLY ARE MORE
10:24
INSTITUTIONALIST WING.
10:26
THAT MAY SEEM LIKE A FAIRYTALE.
10:27
BUT I DO THINK YOU WILL SEE
10:28
SOME REPUBLICAN PRIMARY VOTERS
10:30
AND CERTAINLY IN 2026 SAY, HEY,
10:32
THE OTHER CROWD IS NOT DOING
10:33
TOO WELL IN GENERAL ELECTIONS.
10:34
AND IT DOES NOT TAKE THAT MANY
10:35
VOTERS TO CHANGE UP.
10:36
BUT THAT IS WHAT IT IS GOING TO
10:37
TAKE.
10:38
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK FOXHUNT
10:39
CHANGED THEIR TUNE AT ALL.
10:40
>> THE PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO LEAD
10:42
THE NETWORK TO THE TRUTH.
10:44
NEW YORK TIMES MEDIA REPORTER
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Re: Dominion voting machines demands pro-Trump attorney Sidn

Postby admin » Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:57 am

Fox News stars and executives privately trashed Trump’s election fraud claims, court document reveals
by Oliver Darcy
CNN
Updated 9:32 PM EST, Thu February 16, 2023

The most prominent stars and highest-ranking executives at Fox News privately ridiculed claims of election fraud in the 2020 election, despite the right-wing channel allowing lies about the presidential contest to be promoted on its air, damning messages contained in a Thursday court filing revealed.

The messages, included in a legal filing as part of Dominion Voting System’s $1.6 billion lawsuit against Fox News, showed that Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, and Laura Ingraham brutally mocked lies being pushed by former President Donald Trump’s camp asserting that the election was rigged.

In one set of messages revealed in the court filing, Carlson texted Ingraham, saying that Sidney Powell, an attorney who was representing the Trump campaign, was “lying” and that he had “caught her” doing so. Ingraham responded, “Sidney is a complete nut. No one will work with her. Ditto with Rudy [Giuliani].”

The messages also revealed that Rupert Murdoch, the chairman of Fox Corporation, did not believe Trump’s election lies and even floated the idea of having Carlson, Hannity, and Ingraham appear together in prime time to declare Joe Biden as the rightful winner of the election.

Such an act, Murdoch said, “Would go a long way to stop the Trump myth that the election stolen.”

The court document offered the most vivid picture to date of the chaos that transpired behind the scenes at Fox News after Trump lost the election and viewers rebelled against the right-wing channel for accurately calling the contest in Biden’s favor.

Dominion filed its mammoth lawsuit against Fox News in March 2021, alleging that during the 2020 presidential election the talk network “recklessly disregarded the truth” and pushed various pro-Donald Trump conspiracy theories about the election technology company because “the lies were good for Fox’s business.”

Fox News has not only vigorously denied Dominion’s claims, it has insisted it is “proud” of its 2020 election coverage.

In a statement Thursday night, Fox News argued that the court filing contained cherry-picked quotes lacking context.

“There will be a lot of noise and confusion generated by Dominion and their opportunistic private equity owners, but the core of this case remains about freedom of the press and freedom of speech, which are fundamental rights afforded by the Constitution and protected by New York Times v. Sullivan,” the network said.

But the court document provided a mountain of evidence exposing Fox News as a right-wing talk channel void of the most basic journalistic ethics.

The legal filing also underscored how worried Fox News executives and hosts were in the immediate aftermath of the election of losing its viewership to Newsmax, a smaller right-wing talk channel that was saturating its airwaves with election denialism.

After the election, a furious Trump attacked Fox News and encouraged his followers to switch to Newsmax. And, in the days and weeks after the presidential contest had been called, they did just that. Fox News shed a chunk of its audience while Newsmax gained significant viewership.

In multiple instances, Fox News executives and hosts expressed worry over the matter and started to crack down on those at the network who fact-checked election lies. In one case, after White House correspondent Jacqui Heinrich fact-checked a Trump tweet pushing election fraud, Carlson said he wanted her fired.

“Please get her fired,” Carlson told Hannity over text message. “Seriously … what the f**k? I’m actually shocked … It needs to stop immediately, like tonight. It’s measurably hurting the company.”

Hannity replied that he had already spoken to Suzanne Scott, the network’s chief executive. The next morning, Heinrich’s tweet had been deleted.

A person with direct knowledge of the matter told CNN that Heinrich was blindsided reading the details in the legal filing and was not aware of the efforts by top hosts behind the scenes to get her fired.

In another case, when host Neil Cavuto cut away from a White House press briefing where election misinformation was being promoted, senior Fox News leadership were told such a move presented a “brand threat.”

Scott exchanged messages with Lachlan Murdoch, the Fox Corporation chief executive, and outlined a plan to win viewers back. Scott said the right-wing talk channel would “highlight our stars and plant flags letting the viewers know we hear them and respect them.” Murdoch responded that the brand needed “rebuilding without any missteps.”

Soon after, Fox News debuted a new “standing up for what’s right” marketing campaign featuring the network’s top stars.

Despite what appeared on air, Fox News executives and hosts privately criticized the Trump camp for pushing claims of election fraud, the messages showed. Hannity even said Giuliani was “acting like an insane person” and Ingraham described him as “an idiot.” Rupert Murdoch said it was “really bad” that Giuliani was advising Trump.

The court filing also revealed that Fox News executives had criticized some of the network’s top talent behind the scenes. Jay Wallace, the network president, said that “the North Koreans” did a “more nuanced show” than then-host Lou Dobbs. Jerry Andrews, the executive producer of “Justice with Judge Jeanine,” referred to host Jeanine Pirro as “nuts.”
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Re: Dominion voting machines demands pro-Trump attorney Sidn

Postby admin » Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:34 am

Bombshell text evidence confirms Fox 'is not a news channel'
by Mehdi Hasan
MSNBC
Feb 17, 2023 #msnbc #foxnews #republicanparty

Mehdi Hasan: "Fox is not a news channel. And it certainly is not 'fair and balanced.' It is actively working to further the agenda of the Republican Party. You don't have to take it from me—take it directly from Rupert Murdoch."



Transcript

0:03
>> [MEHDI HASAN] GOOD EVENING FROM WASHINGTON,
0:08
D.C., I'M MEHDI HASAN
0:10
IN FOR CHRIS
HAYES. EARLIER THIS WEEK, SENATE
0:12
REPUBLICANS GRILLED PRESIDENT
0:14
BIDEN'S NOMINEE TO THE FEDERAL
0:16
COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION FOR
0:17
THE THIRD TIME.
0:17
THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DERAIL
0:19
HER CONFIRMATION CLAIMING THAT
0:20
SHE IS TOO FAR TO THE LEFT AND
0:25
TOO CRITICAL OF FOX.
0:27
>> [MR. SULLIVAN] YOU SAID, QUOTE, FOR ALL MY
0:28
CONCERNS ABOUT FACEBOOK, I
0:30
BELIEVE THAT FOX NEWS HAS HAD
0:31
THE MOST NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR
0:34
DEMOCRACY.
0:35
IT IS STATE-SPONSORED
0:37
PROPAGANDA."
0:38
DO YOU STILL BELIEVE FOX NEWS
0:40
IS STATE-SPONSORED PROPAGANDA?
0:42
>> [TED CRUZ] THESE ARE YOUR WORDS.
0:44
WHAT ABOUT FOX NEWS IS STATE
0:46
SPONSORED?
0:46
YOU KNOW, YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT PRIVATE
0:48
ACTORS.
0:49
LAST I CHECKED, FOX NEWS IS NOT
0:50
PART OF THE GOVERNMENT.
0:52
>> [MEHDI HASAN] YES, HOW DARE ANYONE SUGGEST THAT
0:54
FOX WAS SIMILAR TO STATE-RUN
0:56
PROPAGANDA DURING THE TRUMP
0:58
ADMINISTRATION?
0:59
HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY BELIEVE
1:00
THAT WHEN FOX SPREAD DONALD
1:02
TRUMP'S BIG LIE THAT THE 2020
1:04
ELECTION WAS STOLEN FROM HIM,
1:06
CULMINATING IN A BLOODY ATTACK
1:07
ON THE CAPITOL BY PEOPLE WHO
1:10
BELIEVE THAT STORY?
1:11
>> [TUCKER CARLSON] IF YOU ARE A TRUMP VOTER AND
1:14
YOU SUSPECT THAT THIS ELECTION WAS
1:15
STOLEN,
1:16
WAS RIGGED, YOU'RE ON TO
1:17
SOMETHING.
1:17
THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
1:19
WAS NOT FAIR.
1:20
NO HONEST PERSON WOULD CLAIM
1:22
THAT IT WAS FAIR.
1:23
>> [MARIA BARTIROMO] DOMINION SOFTWARE --
1:25
I KNOW THAT THERE WERE VOTING
1:26
IRREGULARITIES.
1:27
TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
1:30
>> [SIDNEY POWELL] THAT'S TO PUT IT MILDLY.
1:32
>> [SEAN HANNITY] THE COMPANY IS CALLED
1:34
DOMINION VOTING.
1:35
DOMINION CAME UNDER HEAVY FIRE
1:36
AFTER ALLEGATIONS THAT THEIR
1:38
MACHINES CAUSED THOUSANDS OF
1:40
VOTES IN ONE MICHIGAN COUNTY TO
1:41
BE SWITCHED FROM DONALD TRUMP TO
1:43
JOE BIDEN.
1:44
>> [MEHDI HASAN] AND NOW WE HAVE NEW
1:46
EVIDENCE SHOWING THAT FOX
1:48
KNOWINGLY, WILLINGLY,
1:50
RECKLESSLY SPREAD THOSE LIES
1:52
THAT LED TO THE GRAVEST THREAT TO
1:54
AMERICAN DEMOCRACY SINCE THE
1:55
CIVIL WAR.
1:56
THIS COMES, BY THE WAY, OF A
1:58
DEFAMATION LAWSUIT AGAINST FOX
2:00
FROM THAT COMPANY YOUR HEARD
2:01
MENTIONED --
2:02
DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS.
2:03
THEY MAKE VOTING MACHINES USED
2:05
AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT
2:08
FOX REGULARLY SUGGESTED
2:09
WERE PART OF A MADE-UP
2:11
CONSPIRACY
2:12
TO RIG THE 2020 ELECTION AGAINST
2:13
DONALD J TRUMP.
2:14
AND IN A STUNNING NEW FILING,
2:16
THEY REVEAL MESSAGES AND
2:18
TESTIMONY FROM FOX HOSTS AND
2:20
EXECUTIVES DISCUSSING THAT THE THINGS
2:21
THEY WERE SAYING ON AIR ABOUT
2:23
THE ELECTION WERE TOTAL
2:26
NONSENSE.
2:27
TUCKER CARLSON CALLED THE CLAIMS
AND THE GUESTS PUSHING THEM,
"LUDICROUS AND TOTALLY OFF THE
RAILS."
2:32
SEAN HANNITY CALLED THEM "EFFING
2:34
LUNATICS."
2:35
PRODUCER JOHN FAWCETT CALLED THEM "COMPLETE BS".
2:37
2:37
AND FOX CORPORATION SENIOR VICE
2:39
PRESIDENT RAJ SHAH SAID THEY WERE
2:42
"MIND-BLOWINGLY NUTS."
2:43
IN ALL CAPS.
2:44
BEHIND THE SCENES, FOX
2:46
PERSONALITIES WERE UNEQUIVOCAL
2:47
ABOUT THE TRUTH.
2:49
TWO DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT
2:51
BRET BAIER SAID PRIVATELY,
2:53
QUOTE, "THERE OS NO EVIDENCE OF
2:55
FRAUD. NONE."
2:56
THE FOLLOWING WEEK, TUCKER
2:58
CARLSON WROTE IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE THAT
2:59
DONALD TRUMP NEEDED TO CONCEDE
3:00
THE ELECTION, AND HE AGREED THAT
3:01
"THERE WASN'T ENOUGH FRAUD TO
CHANGE THE OUTCOME."
3:04
CARLSON ALSO MADE IT VERY CLEAR
3:06
TO HIS COLLEAGUES, IN PRIVATE,
3:07
WHAT HE THOUGHT OF DONALD TRUMP'S LAWYER,
3:09
SIDNEY POWELL, WHO WAS PUBLICLY
3:12
PUSHING HIS BIG LIE ALL OVER
3:14
FOX.
3:14
HE TOLD FELLOW HOST LAURA
3:16
INGRAHAM --
3:17
"SIDNEY POWELL IS LYING, BY THE
3:18
WAY.
3:19
I CAUGHT HER.
3:20
IT'S INSANE." INGRAHAM REPIED,
3:22
"SIDNEY IS A COMPLETE NUT.
3:23
NO ONE WILL WORK WITH HER.
3:25
DITTO WITH RUDY."
3:26
REFERRING, OF COURSE, TO ANOTHER TRUMP
3:27
LAWYER, RUDY GIULIANI.
3:28
CARLSON SAID, QUOTE, "IT'S
3:31
UNBELIEVABLY OFFENSIVE TO
3:32
ME. OUR VIEWERS ARE GOOD PEOPLE
AND THEY BELIEVE IT.
3:34
IN VARIOUS OTHER INSTANCES
3:37
CARLSON REFERRED TO POWELL AS A
3:38
CRAZY PERSON, LUNATIC,
3:39
UNGUIDED MISSILE, DANGEROUS AS
3:41
HELL, NUT CASE, AND POISON.
3:43
AND IN ONE TEXT MESSAGE TO HIS
3:46
PRODUCER, EVEN CALLED HER,
3:48
QUOTE, AN "EFFING B." [FUCKING BITCH]
3:52
CHARMING.
3:52
IN TESTIMONY, SEAN HANNITY ALSO SAID THAT
3:55
HE KNEW SIDNEY POWELL WAS
3:56
SPEARING LIES, QUOTE, "THAT WHOLE
3:59
NARRATIVE THAT SIDNEY WAS
4:01
PUSHING, I DID NOT BELIEVE IT
4:02
FOR ONE SECOND."
4:02
BUT THIS NEW INFORMATION
4:03
CLARIFIES ONE OF THE REASONS WHY
4:04
FOX PERSONALITIES CONTINUED TO
4:06
SPREAD THE NONSENSE THAT THEY KNEW WAS
4:08
NOT TRUE.
4:09
THEY WERE AFRAID OF LOSING
4:10
THEIR AUDIENCE TO THE LIKES OF
4:12
NEWSMAX.
4:12
SEE, THE TRUTH WAS NOT APPEALING TO
THEIR TRUMP-LOVING VIEWERS.

4:17
IN ONE INSTANCE, TUCKER CARLSON
4:19
WENT AS FAR AS TO DEMAND THAT THE
4:21
COMPANY FIRE A FOX REPORTER WHO
4:23
FACT-CHECKED A TWEET FROM DONALD
4:24
TRUMP MENTIONING DOMINION
4:26
VOTING MACHINES.
4:28
HE TEXTED SEAN HANNITY, QUOTE,
4:30
"PLEASE GET HER FIRED.
4:31
SERIOUSLY.
4:32
WHAT THE F?
4:32
I'M ACTUALLY SHOCKED.
4:34
IT NEEDS TO STOP IMMEDIATELY, LIKE
4:35
TONIGHT.
4:36
IT'S MEASURABLY HURTING THE
4:37
COMPANY.
4:37
THE STOCK PRICE IS DOWN.
4:39
NOT A JOKE."
4:41
--
4:41
THEY TOOK THEIR COMPLAINTS TO
4:43
FOX EXECUTIVES, AND BY THE NEXT
4:45
MORNING, THAT FOX REPORTER
4:48
DELETED HER TWEET.
4:49
AND WE KNOW THAT THOSE EXECUTIVES,
4:52
BY THE WAY, WERE
4:53
WELL AWARE OF THE CHOICES THEY
4:54
WERE MAKING
4:55
ACCORDING TO THE COURT FILING.
THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT AND
MANAGING EDITOR OF THE
WASHINGTON, D.C. BUREAU, BILL
SAMMON, SAID PRIVATELY, QUOTE,
"IT'S REMARKABLE HOW WEAK
RATINGS MAKE GOOD JOURNALISTS
DO BAD THINGS."

5:07
IT WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO FOX
5:09
CORPORATION CHAIRMAN, RUPERT
5:10
MURDOCH HIMSELF, WHO TOLD THE
5:13
CEO OF QUOTE UNQUOTE, FOX NEWS,
5:14
THAT RUDY GIULIANI AND SIDNEY
5:17
POWELL'S LIES ON THEIR NETWORK WERE QUOTE,
5:20
"TERRIBLE --
5:21
STUFF DAMAGING. EVERYBODY, I
5:23
FEAR."
5:24
ON ANOTHER OCASION HE REFERRED TO THE TRUMP MYTH THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN.
5:26
AND ON NOVEMBER 16TH, ACCORDING
TO THIS FILING, MURDOCH WROTE,
QUOTE, "TRUMP WILL CONCEDE
EVENTUALLY, AND WE SHOULD
CONCENTRATE ON GEORGIA, HELPING
ANY WAY WE CAN."
LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN.
"HELPING ANY WAY WE CAN.
WE DON'T WANT TO ANTAGONIZE
TRUMP FURTHER.
BUT GIULIANI TAKEN
WITH A LARGE GRAIN OF
SALT. EVERYTHING AT STAKE
HERE."

5:46
SO LET'S BE CLEAR.
5:48
OF COURSE FOX IS A PROPAGANDA
5:51
OUTLET.
5:52
THEY WANTED TO HELP REPUBLICANS
5:54
WIN THEIR NEXT RACES:
5:55
THE SPECIAL SENATE ELECTIONS
5:57
IN GEORGIA.
5:58
FOX IS NOT A NEWS CHANNEL --
5:59
AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT FAIR & BALANCES --
6:02
ITS ACTIVELY WORKING TO FURTHER
6:05
THE AGENDA OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT FROM ME. TAKE IT DIRECTLY FROM RUPERT MURDOCH.
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Re: Dominion voting machines demands pro-Trump attorney Sidn

Postby admin » Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:43 am

Emails between Fox News hosts expose Fox's intentional election fraud lies. What happens now?
Glenn Kirschner
Feb 19, 2023 #TeamJustice

As The New York Times reported, "Fox stars privately expressed disbelief about election fraud claims. 'Crazy stuff.'" Dominion Voting Systems is suing Fox for defamation, seeking $1.7 billion in damages. In a court pleading, Dominion just revealed some truly blockbuster evidence involving Fox hosts knowingly broadcasting false claims about the 2020 presidential election.

This video discusses these recent reports and also tackles the question of what the federal government can and should do when faux news agencies knowingly and intentionally broadcast false information that is reasonably likely to incite imminent lawless/violent conduct.

A big shout out of thanks to Professor Lester Reams and JaMel for their terrific assistance in the RLL project - "Regulate/Legislate/Litigate" - which is discussed in this video.



Transcript

0:00
so friends some of the Fox network
0:02
anchors have been caught
0:05
caught in their own words caught in
0:07
their own emails lying to their viewers
0:10
about election fraud
0:12
and yes they're being sued and they'll
0:14
probably be ordered to pay more than a
0:16
billion dollars to the people in the
0:18
organization that they defamed but
0:21
I think we the people have a right to
0:23
ask
0:24
what does our federal government going
0:27
to do about it
0:29
let's talk about that
0:31
because Justice matters
0:34
[Music]
0:42
[Music]
0:48
hey all Glenn Kirchner here so friends
0:50
it's been a few days since the news
0:52
broke that some of the Fox network
0:55
anchors have been caught
0:58
they've been caught in their own words
1:00
in their own internal email
1:02
Communications caught lying to their
1:05
viewers lying to the American people
1:08
about alleged election fraud in the 2020
1:11
presidential election and those emails
1:15
demonstrate that they knew they were
1:18
lying
1:19
you know I wanted to take a few days I
1:21
wanted to sit with this story before
1:24
doing a Justice matters video about it
1:27
I want to start today with the New York
1:30
Times reporting about these emails these
1:34
internal Communications being revealed
1:38
headline Fox Stars privately expressed
1:42
disbelief about election fraud claims
1:44
calling them crazy stuff
1:47
the comments by Tucker Carlson Sean
1:50
Hannity and others were released as part
1:52
of a defamation suit against Fox news by
1:55
Dominion voter systems
1:57
and that article begins newly discovered
2:00
messages and testimony from some of the
2:03
biggest stars and most senior Executives
2:05
at Fox News revealed that they privately
2:09
expressed disbelief about President
2:11
Donald J Trump's false claims that the
2:15
2020 election was stolen from him even
2:18
though the network continued to promote
2:21
many of those lies on the air
2:24
the hosts Tucker Carlson Sean Hannity
2:26
and Laura Ingraham as well as others at
2:29
the company repeatedly insulted and
2:32
mocked Trump advisors including Sydney
2:36
Powell and Rudolph Giuliani in text
2:39
messages with each other in the weeks
2:41
after the election according to a legal
2:44
filing on Thursday by Dominion voting
2:46
systems
2:48
Dominion is suing Fox for defamation in
2:51
a case that poses considerable financial
2:53
and reputational risk for the country's
2:57
most watched Cable News Network
3:00
and friends here are some of those
3:02
internal Fox messages
3:04
quote Sidney Powell is lying by the way
3:08
I caught her it's insane Mr Carlson
3:11
wrote to miss Ingraham on November 18
3:14
2020.
3:16
Miss Ingraham responded Sydney is a
3:19
complete nut no one will work with her
3:22
ditto with Rudy
3:24
Mr Carlson continued our viewers are
3:28
good people and they believe it he added
3:31
making clear that he Carlson did not
3:36
so friends think about that
3:38
they were feeding these lies to the
3:41
viewers they knew they were lies they
3:44
knew the viewers believed those lies
3:47
but they kept doing it anyway
3:50
why well for ratings for profit
3:54
and Friends these lies they were telling
3:55
to their viewers they weren't any old
3:57
lies you know they weren't lying to
3:59
their viewers about which toothpaste
4:01
will make their teeth whiter which soap
4:04
powder will get their clothes cleaner
4:07
they were lying telling their viewers
4:10
that their vote had been stolen
4:13
their election was rigged their
4:15
president was being unlawfully taken
4:17
from them
4:19
you know figuratively speaking these Fox
4:22
anchors were packing the kegs with
4:26
gunpowder
4:27
giving Donald Trump the opportunity to
4:30
strike the match
4:32
on January 6th
4:34
and the whole thing exploded into
4:37
imminent violence at the U.S Capitol
4:40
designed to do what
4:42
designed to stop the certification of
4:45
Joe Biden's election win
4:48
you know friends Fox probably should
4:51
have settled before all of these lies
4:54
were exposed all of these dangerous lies
4:56
these incendiary lies
4:59
you know maybe they could have retained
5:01
some minimal shred of credibility
5:04
but frankly I care less about how much
5:07
Fox will have to pay Dominion voting
5:11
systems for defaming them which they
5:13
clearly did I care more
5:16
about what our federal government will
5:19
do
5:20
with these faux news networks these faux
5:24
news organizations that knowingly feed
5:27
the American people
5:29
these incendiary lies these explosive
5:33
lies
5:34
lies that are reasonably likely to
5:38
incite imminent lawlessness reasonably
5:42
likely to incite Violent conduct in fact
5:45
they may have even been calculated or
5:48
intended to do exactly what they did
5:51
incite violence on January 6th what does
5:54
our federal government going to do to
5:57
address it
5:58
so this situation doesn't happen again
6:01
and again and again because these faux
6:04
news networks are still out there
6:06
peddling lies
6:09
you know friends the federal government
6:10
is not a potted plant
6:13
the executive branch has some power has
6:16
some authority to try to protect the
6:18
American people against harm
6:21
we have the FCC the Federal
6:23
Communications Commission
6:25
they can promulgate regulations designed
6:28
to get at this intentionally false and
6:32
dangerous speech being broadcast by
6:36
these faux news networks
6:38
we have the president with the power of
6:40
the executive order
6:42
he can craft and sign executive orders
6:47
designed to get after faux news
6:50
organizations that are knowingly
6:53
intentionally broadcasting lies
6:57
about fundamental rights of the American
7:00
people like whether their vote was
7:01
stolen or not whether elections were
7:04
rigged or not language
7:06
that they are broadcasting knowing them
7:10
to be lies when those lies are
7:13
reasonably likely to inspire
7:16
Lawless conduct
7:18
when those lies are reasonably likely to
7:21
incite imminent violence
7:24
the federal government is not a potted
7:26
plan
7:27
the federal government can regulate the
7:30
president can pass executive orders
7:33
and I know people will say wait wait
7:34
wait
7:35
First Amendment
7:37
Free Speech we can't do anything about
7:41
faux news organizations
7:43
intentionally and knowingly broadcasting
7:46
lies that are likely to inspire Lawless
7:49
conduct
7:50
yes we can
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you know friends here's the thing
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no we don't want to trample on anybody's
7:56
Free Speech rights and we know the
7:58
protections of the first amendment in
8:00
the Free Speech Arena are Broad and
8:03
sweeping but they're not unlimited and
8:06
frankly they should be Revisited you
8:09
know how we revisit them
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the federal government the executive
8:14
branch through its agencies
8:17
promulgates Common Sense regulations
8:20
designed to put a stop
8:23
to intentionally false speech by faux
8:27
news organizations when that speech is
8:30
reasonably likely to incite imminent
8:32
Lawless action
8:34
we pass regulations trying to get at
8:38
that problem President Biden signs
8:40
executive orders trying to get at that
8:43
problem and the legal challenges will
8:45
come to those regulations and those
8:47
executive orders bring them on
8:50
we should welcome
8:52
the the challenges in the courts we
8:55
should be willing to go into the courts
8:58
and fight
8:59
for the American people by taking a
9:01
position that these were thoughtfully
9:04
crafted regulations and executive orders
9:07
the Administration has a lot of deep
9:09
thinkers a lot of constitutional
9:11
Scholars available to help craft these
9:15
narrowly tailored regulations and
9:18
executive orders
9:20
let the legal challenges come we can't
9:23
be afraid to try to be forward-leaning
9:26
in this day and age of extreme danger to
9:30
our democracy
9:32
you know we have to embrace the
9:34
challenge just think for a minute
9:36
friends about what the Trump
9:38
Administration did with executive orders
9:40
now let me tell you I did a long
9:43
discussion of this on my audio podcast
9:45
also coincidentally called Justice
9:48
matters it just posted this episode and
9:52
you can get it as they say wherever you
9:54
ordinarily get your podcasts and I talk
9:56
about the need to take on this challenge
9:59
not shy away from it because legal
10:02
challenges will be brought to these
10:03
regulations and these executive orders
10:06
we should welcome it we should embrace
10:08
those legal challenges I call this the
10:10
rll approach to intractable problems
10:14
whether it's gun violence or hate speech
10:17
designed to incite violence
10:19
rll we regulate we legislate and then we
10:24
litigate and we welcome the litigation
10:26
now the legislation Peach piece it's not
10:29
all that vibrant at the moment given the
10:31
slim majority that the Republicans have
10:35
in the house but we'll get back to being
10:37
able to legislate in a couple of years
10:39
the rll regulate
10:42
legislate and then litigate you know
10:44
what Trump did Trump used the executive
10:47
orders the power of the executive orders
10:50
for evil
10:52
what was the first thing he did upon
10:54
taking office within I think 10 days he
10:57
signed his first hateful Muslim ban he
11:00
wanted to ban people from Coming to
11:01
America for who because of who they are
11:04
or because of their national origin or
11:07
because of the religion they practice he
11:09
wanted to ban them
11:10
his hateful Muslim ban so he signed an
11:13
executive order and what happened it got
11:15
challenged in court and it got blocked
11:17
so he took it back and he reworded it
11:20
and he retooled it together with the
11:22
help from his hateful cabal
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and he promulgated a second one and it
11:28
got blocked in the courts he did it a
11:30
third time
11:31
and I believe it got blocked it took
11:33
four times for him to get his hateful
11:36
Muslim ban Banning people from seven
11:39
muslim-majority countries from Coming to
11:42
America just because of the religion
11:43
they practice
11:45
and he found five conservatives on the
11:48
Supreme Court who were apparently just
11:50
as hateful as him and they finally
11:52
passed they affirmed that fourth hateful
11:56
Muslim ban
11:59
but I think we need to take a page from
12:02
the Trump Administration Playbook
12:06
you try an executive order that is
12:08
carefully and narrowly crafted
12:11
and you promulgate it and then you go
12:14
into court and you defend it and if you
12:17
lose you learn the lessons from the
12:19
judge from the court when they strike
12:22
down the regulation or the executive
12:25
order as maybe you know stepping a toe
12:28
over the Constitutional line and you
12:30
rework it
12:31
and you let the next challenge come and
12:33
you go back and you defend it we can use
12:36
executive orders and regulations for
12:40
Good the way the Trump Administration
12:41
used them for evil they weren't afraid
12:44
to lose in court and they kept trying
12:46
until they could get their hateful ban
12:48
pushed through the courts why can't we
12:51
do the same thing trying to protect the
12:54
American people use the executive order
12:57
and the power of the regulation for good
13:00
and then go into court and defend it
13:02
because if we win in court well then the
13:04
American people win if we lose in court
13:06
we retool re we rework we redraft the
13:11
regulation or the executive order and we
13:14
go back into court again and eventually
13:16
we're going to convince the judges we're
13:18
going to convince the courts that what
13:20
we're doing in the arena of you know
13:22
hate speech and false speech that is
13:25
likely to incite imminent lawlessness
13:27
and gun violence right unfettered access
13:30
to to assault rifles and weapons of war
13:33
we can we can
13:36
pass executive orders and enact
13:39
regulations and then go into court and
13:42
fight them and we can do it for good
13:45
and in this day and age we can't just
13:47
sit back and say First Amendment so we
13:50
will do nothing and we will let the faux
13:53
news organizations continue to
13:56
intentionally spew their lies inspiring
14:00
imminent Lawless conduct
14:03
by their viewers
14:05
we can't just sit back and do nothing
14:06
and we can't be afraid of somebody
14:09
challenging
14:10
the steps that we take
14:13
to try to protect the American people
14:16
Bring It On
14:17
bring on the court challenges
14:21
because Justice
14:24
matters

14:26
and friends I want to give a quick shout
14:28
out of thanks to two people Professor
14:30
Lester Reams who has been helping me
14:33
with the rll project regulate legislate
14:36
and litigate and to our friend Jamel who
14:40
created the rll logo that I used in
14:44
today's Justice matters video two
14:46
terrific team Justice members
14:49
and it takes a team friends
14:52
team Justice
14:55
friends as I say I do a much deeper dive
14:57
on this topic in my audio podcast
15:00
the long form episode drops on the
15:04
weekend and the one discussing the rll
15:07
approach to intractable problems
15:09
regulate legislate and litigate is in
15:13
the the most recent weekend long-form
15:15
podcast that just posted in the last 24
15:18
hours so if you want more information
15:20
you want to hear me prattle on even
15:22
longer about this topic yeah I feel
15:25
strongly about it you know this is our
15:26
democracy mine yours our kids our
15:29
grandkids our friends our neighbors our
15:31
communities
15:34
so yeah it's worth prowling on about
15:39
friends as always please stay safe
15:41
please stay tuned and I look forward to
15:43
talking with you all again
15:45
soon
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Re: Dominion voting machines demands pro-Trump attorney Sidn

Postby admin » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:39 am

The 'wackadoodle' foundation of Fox News' election-fraud claims
By David Folkenflik
NPR
Published February 20, 2023 at 3:02 AM MST
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Fox News host Maria Bartiromo invited Trump campaign attorney Sidney Powell on her show to discuss allegations of election fraud based on an email laying out claims even the writer called "pretty wackadoodle." Slaven Vlasic

A woman who says the wind talks to her and put forth claims of election fraud in the 2020 presidential race that she admitted were "pretty wackadoodle" turns out to be a key source of allegations that Fox News presented, night after night, to millions of viewers late that fall.

Joe Biden's victory caused Fox News personalities to all but melt down on the air. Off the air, a sense of crisis pervaded the private conversations of the network's executives and stars. Viewers who supported then-President Donald Trump abandoned Fox in droves after its Election Night team became the first in the nation to project that Biden would win the pivotal state of Arizona.

Desperate to win back the Trump supporters, Fox News and the Fox Business Network turned at least a dozen times to a pro-Trump attorney named Sidney Powell who, when pressed for evidence, forwarded a memo entitled "Election Fraud Info" to Fox anchor Maria Bartiromo. Bartiromo hosted Powell on her Fox News show the day after receiving it.

'Like time travel in a semi-conscious state'

The author of the memo in which Powell and Bartiromo put so much stock offered detailed and utterly false claims of how Dominion Voting Systems helped rig the election for Biden. She also shared a bit about herself, writing that she gains insights from experiencing something "like time-travel in a semi-conscious state."

The existence of the memo, its enigmatic author, and her role in Fox's broadcasts surfaced in a devastating 178-page legal brief filed by Dominion Voting Systems and made public last week by a Delaware court. The election-tech company has sued Fox News for $1.6 billion for defamation over the airing of false claims that it engaged in election fraud.

Powell's source also volunteered that the wind tells her that she's a ghost, though she doesn't believe it.

The woman, who is not named in the legal brief, wrote that she knew the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia had been killed during a week-long human hunting expedition at an elite social club. (Scalia, a favorite of many Fox News hosts, died in 2016 of a heart attack, according to local officials in Texas, where he died.)

And the woman asserted that the late Fox News chairman Roger Ailes and Fox Corporation founder Rupert Murdoch "secretly huddle most days to determine how best to portray Mr. Trump as badly as possible." By the time the woman wrote her memo, Ailes had been dead for more than three years.


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Attorney Sidney Powell spread baseless election-fraud claims on Fox News after the 2020 election. To back up her claims, she forwarded Fox hosts an email from a source who admitted those claims were "pretty wackadoodle." Drew Angerer / Getty Images

"Who am I? And how do I know all of this?... I've had the strangest dreams since I was a little girl," the woman wrote in the email shared by Powell with Bartiromo and Dobbs. "I was internally decapitated, and yet, I live."

This all appeared in the same memo that claimed Dominion's software flipped votes from Trump to Biden, and tied the election company to a conspiracy involving Democrats Nancy Pelosi, then the House speaker, and Sen. Dianne Feinstein.

"The full force of the email's lunacy comes across by reading it in its entirety," Dominion's legal brief states. "Spurred by the November 8 Bartiromo broadcast," the election tech company's legal team wrote, "the wild Dominion allegations entered the mainstream."
Dominion began sending journalists and executives at the network regular messages attempting to set the record straight -- and putting the network on notice, according to the filing.

David Clark, then the senior executive over Fox's weekend shows, later said under oath to Dominion's lawyers that he "would not have allowed that claim to be aired," had he known this memo was the sole foundation of the "crazy" theories.

Dominion Voting System's lawyers would not comment further to NPR. Fox News and parent company Fox Corp. declined to comment on the email. More broadly, Fox has accused Dominion of mischaracterizing the record and cherry-picked quotes without the proper context.

Fox hosts and executives ridiculed Sidney Powell and her claims, while giving them a platform

Fox News stars and executives privately reviled their newsroom colleagues who told viewers that such claims were baseless, because such fact-checks alienated viewers.

Yet in some of the same conversations, the hosts and executives ridiculed Powell and her election-fraud claims. Their private communications and sworn testimony were also part of Dominion's filings.

"Sidney Powell is a bit nuts," Fox host Laura Ingraham wrote to stars Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity on Nov. 15, 2020.

"Sidney Powell is lying," Carlson told his producer in a note the next day.

"Terrible stuff damaging everybody, I fear," Murdoch texted to Fox News chief executive Suzanne Scott on Nov. 19, after seeing Powell and Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani relaying unfounded claims of election fraud on the air. Scott agreed.

Others admitted under oath that they also shared those sentiments.

"[T]hat whole narrative that Sidney was pushing, I did not believe it for one second," Hannity said in a deposition conducted nearly two years later by Dominion's lawyers.

One of Dominion's attorneys asked Bartiromo while she was being deposed whether the email was "nonsense." The Fox News anchor agreed that it was.

Memo shared with Eric Trump, the former president's son, according to Dominion's legal filings

That's not how Bartiromo responded at the time.

On Nov. 7, just four days after Election Day, Powell sent Fox Business host Lou Dobbs and Bartiromo the memo. Powell appeared on Dobbs's show that day to push easily discredited conspiracy theories involving the CIA and Dominion. That night, Fox News followed other networks in projecting that Biden had won the presidential election.

Bartiromo replied glowingly to Powell, saying she had endorsed the information in the memo during a conversation with one of Trump's sons: "I just spoke to Eric & told him you gave very imp info."

The very next day, Nov. 8, Bartiromo invited Powell on her show and encouraged her to present her claims of fraud anew. "We've talked about the Dominion software," Bartiromo said to Powell on her show, Sunday Morning Futures. "I know that there were voting irregularities. Tell me about that."

Powell responded: "That is where the fraud took place, where they were flipping votes in the computer system or adding votes that did not exist."

She continued, "There has been a massive and coordinated effort to steal this election from 'We the people' of the United States of America."

Privately, Tucker Carlson texted to an associate that night, "[t]he software sh-- is absurd... Half our viewers have seen the Maria clip."


Bartiromo is a veteran financial journalist, with earlier stints at CNN and CNBC, where she became a star anchor. She joined Fox a decade ago to help give Fox Business greater cachet and respectability. She hosts 17 hours across Fox Business and Fox News each week.

Producer testifies 'wackadoodle' memo now not fit for air

Even before Election Day, Clark and Fox News chief political anchor Bret Baier separately told the network's top news executive, Jay Wallace, that Bartiromo was pushing false claims of fraud on social media.

By Nov. 8, Fox Business Network senior vice president Gary Schreier was warning the channel's president, Lauren Petterson, that Bartiromo "has GOP conspiracy theorists in her ear and they use her for their message sometimes."

As Dominion's lawyers noted, however, such skepticism about Bartiromo from senior executives did not inspire them to block her program that day or from rebroadcasting it hours later.

Bartiromo was not alone in possessing the memo; Dobbs received it too, and Bartiromo had shared that memo with a senior producer and top booker, Abby Grossberg.

Asked about it under oath by Dominion's attorneys late last summer, Grossberg said the memo "isn't something that I would use right now as reportable for air, no," according to the legal filings. Grossberg is now a senior producer and top booker for Fox's Tucker Carlson.


Two days after the fateful Bartiromo appearance, Powell turned up on Fox's air once more, this time on Ingraham's primetime Fox News show. Powell asserted, "We have demonstrable, statistical and mathematical and computer evidence of hundreds of thousands of votes being injected into the computer systems repeatedly."

She didn't. Republican and Democratic state and local officials disputed and disproved her claims. So did Trump administration election integrity officials -- as did some Fox News journalists. No matter. Powell showed up on Fox News and the Fox Business Network airwaves again and again -- with Dobbs, Jeanine Pirro, and Hannity, often explicitly implicating Dominion.

On Nov. 29, Bartiromo landed the first interview with Trump since Election Day, telling him, "This is disgusting and we cannot allow our elections to be corrupted."

Powell popped back up on Fox News the very next day.

"We've got evidence of corruption all across the country in countless districts," Powell told Hannity on Nov. 30, without presenting any evidence. "The machine ran an algorithm that shaved votes from Trump and awarded them to Biden. They used the machines to trash large batches of votes that should've been awarded to President Trump. And they used the machines to inject and add massive quantities of votes for Mr. Biden."

Powell was not the only Trump surrogate who had Fox's ear, or seen by its viewers, but her claims were repeatedly amplified, embraced, and given extraordinary air time. Bartiromo has never been publicly rebuked and has not been punished for her role in pushing these falsehoods; in January 2021 she tried out for Fox News' coveted 7 p.m. weekday slot now held by Jesse Watters. The next month, Fox forced out Dobbs the day after another voting tech company called Smartmatic sued the network.

Of Fox's main opinion stars, only Tucker Carlson directly challenged Powell on the air during the post-election season. "We took her seriously," Carlson told viewers on Nov. 19, 2020. "She never sent us any evidence, despite a lot of requests, polite requests. Not a page. When we kept pressing, she got angry and told us to stop contacting her."

Powell had spoken at a Trump campaign press conference earlier in the day in which she spun a web of already debunked false assertions. Carlson said, "She never demonstrated that a single actual vote was moved illegitimately by software from one candidate to another. Not one."

Even so, Carlson privately echoed Fox News executives angered by their news-side colleagues who publicly noted the false claims made by Powell and others publicly, including on Fox shows. They argued it fed the outrage of Trump fans toward the network.

On Jan. 26, 2021, three weeks after the violent siege of the U.S. Capitol by Trump supporters seeking to block congressional certification of Biden's win, Carlson invited on one of his main advertisers: Mike Lindell, the founder of MyPillow and a chief proponent of pro-Trump claims of election fraud.

Carlson gave Lindell plenty of time to make wild claims about Twitter, the media, and Dominion. On Carlson's show, Lindell dared Dominion to sue him, saying he had the evidence of voting fraud but "they don't want to talk about that."

"No, they don't," Carlson said tersely. Dominion filed its lawsuit against Fox News two months later.


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Re: Dominion voting machines demands pro-Trump attorney Sidn

Postby admin » Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:29 am

Tucker Carlson BACKPEDALS on Trashing Trump
by Ana Kasparian and John Iadarola
The Young Turks
Mar 22, 2023 #TYT #TheYoungTurks #BreakingNews

Tucker Carlson made tons of excuses for some hateful texts he sent about Donald Trump. Ana Kasparian and John Iadarola discuss on The Young Turks. Watch TYT LIVE on weekdays 6-8 pm ET.



Transcript

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[Tucker Carlson] I love Trump like as a person I think
0:02
Trump is
0:03
funny and insightful and and I said this
0:07
to Trump when he called me you know all
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wounded about those texts
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um that was a moment in time where I was
0:14
absolutely infuriated
0:17
[Ana Kasparian] that was Tucker Carlson attempting to
0:20
backpedal on some of the negative and
0:24
insulting comments he had in regard to
0:26
Donald Trump internally and of course
0:28
the only reason why we know about them
0:30
is the 1.6 billion dollar Dominion
0:33
defamation lawsuit that's been filed
0:35
against Fox through that defamation
0:37
lawsuit we learned what the internal
0:40
discussions were about Donald Trump and
0:42
his lies about the 2020 election being
0:45
stolen from him. Now uh Tucker is
0:48
desperately trying to hide the reality
0:51
of how he feels about Trump uh during
0:54
this conversation as truly pathetic. Now
0:57
before we get to any more of his ass
0:58
kissing actually no I want to address
1:00
some of what he said in that first clip.
1:02
"Yeah uh I think he's beautiful he's
1:05
funny he's insightful." Like come on man.
1:08
"Yeah a very natural skin tone knows
1:11
exactly how long a tie is supposed to be
1:12
he's a great guy all around
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um
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all day."

[John Iadarola] And I think I've figured out
1:19
what he's doing there. I
1:22
think no it's nonsense I'm not saying
1:24
not saying everybody's utter nonsense I
1:25
think that he's trying to cloak it with
1:26
like a little bit of Truth or whatever
1:27
"First of all I love him." No you don't I
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don't look in a deeper sense a
1:31
philosophical sense I don't think you're
1:32
capable of Love literally anything he
1:34
literally said I true I hate him
1:36
passionately in a January 4th 2021 text
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message yeah yeah I hate him
1:42
passionately
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he said he's funny
1:47
maybe he thinks he's a little bit funny
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I'll actually say that in particular I
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think that Tucker might think that he's
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funny because Trump's brand of humor is
1:54
cruel and I think that Tucker Carlson
1:56
probably can't maintain his own erection
1:57
without that oh my god um but I think
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he's insightful
2:01
come on you you know you take one look
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at Tucker Carlson's face and you know
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exactly what sort of guy he is. He does
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not think that someone like Trump is
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insightful. He 100% believes that he is
2:14
way more intelligent than Tucker Carlson.
2:16
And I know that because I'm that exact
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same type of guy. And you do not think
2:20
that he's insightful. Maybe you think
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that he's figured out something
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um about you know how you activate the
2:26
base or something like that maybe
2:28
because Tucker of course did the same
2:29
thing in remaking His Image over the
2:31
last two decades he decided that he could
2:32
just lie to people and it'll work. He's
2:34
demonstrating that right now. But no you
2:37
don't love him. You don't think he's
2:38
insightful. And it's his attempt to
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ingratiate himself to the base once
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again feels to me very like half-assed.
2:47
Like even his tone of voice right there
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is, "I love him he's funny he's insightful."
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Do I really, am I good now? Can I stop? He
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knows he needs to be a good boy because
2:56
as we also learned through those
2:58
internal message exchanges he's
3:01
terrified of Trump's supporters turning
3:04
on him. He's terrified of the value of
3:07
Fox's shares going down as a result of
3:10
viewership.

Well Anna did he did he
3:12
address all of those points? He didn't. "He
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was a destroyer he won't destroy us."
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Let's get to those okay? Let's do a
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little, let's do a little refresher right
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now uh from one of the conversations
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Tucker Carlson had with his producer
3:26
Alex Pfeiffer on November 6th of 2020.
3:30
Alex Pfeiffer asks him, or says, Trump has
3:33
a pretty low rate at success in his
3:35
business ventures. Tucker Carlson
3:37
responded, "That's for sure all of them
3:40
fail what he's good at is destroying
3:43
things he's the Undisputed world
3:46
champion." At the end of that, "I love him," says
3:50
Tucker Carlson.
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Come on! Who's your favorite politician?
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Like the one that you feel some personal
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either attachment to or support for?

[Ana Kasparian] I
3:59
feel personal attachment to no one like
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some people but I'm not saying you stand
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them or whatever but the only politician
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that has consistently
4:09
been right on the issues is Bernie
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Sanders.
[John Iadarola] Okay, so now imagine you're in
4:14
this story momentarily angry at Bernie.
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And you text me, "Bernie destroys
4:18
everything he touches. He's the best
4:20
person in the world at ruining
4:22
everything."
4:23
"I love him, he's funny, he's insightful."
4:26
Yeah, get the hell out of here. but and
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that's not even the worst thing he said
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about Trump I'm sure no there's more
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there's more
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um some of the texts that Tucker sent to
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his staffers on January 4th of 2021
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we are very very close to being able to
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ignore Trump's most uh Trump most nights
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I truly can't wait I hate him
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passionately
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he was saying I was just mad at one of
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his staffers because a staffer gave me a
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list of names of dead voters and it
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turned out some of them weren't dead I
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was just mad at him
4:57
we're almost able to completely ignore
5:00
Trump and I can't wait for it which
5:02
honestly from Trump's point of view he
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probably hates more than him literally
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saying he hates him because Trump does
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not want to be ignored certainly by
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someone with a big audience Tucker
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Carlson and again if you're a Tucker
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Carlson viewer if you're a trump fan he
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does not want to have to talk about
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Trump he wants Trump to be irrelevant he
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wants Trump to have no influence no say
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no power you don't want that why are you
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listening to a guy who desperately
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passionately wants that to be true
5:31
so look this is
5:32
this is a larger question that goes
5:35
beyond Tucker Carlson Fox News and the
5:37
pandering that they engage in in order
5:39
to maintain the audience they have but
5:42
what would happen if all hosts on all
5:46
shows
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didn't Pander at all and actually shared
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what they genuinely believe without
5:54
caring about any backlash from the
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audience you get what I'm saying yeah I
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actually I want your opinion on this
5:59
because I was wondering about this
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because obviously you know while I try
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to like I think you know a lot of
6:04
leftists or whatever like empathy and
6:06
compassion are pretty Central to a value
6:08
system but that said occasionally I just
6:10
want people to suffer including Tucker
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Carlson so he is influential yeah he's
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very wealthy and all that he has many
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cabins with wood on the walls and
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everything
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um he cannot say what he really believes
6:25
isn't that kind of like a curse
6:28
you can be famous and you can be rich
6:30
but you can never say what you really
6:32
believe you have to say utter nonsense
6:33
you have to pretend to love people that
6:35
you don't or does he not care
6:39
he pretends to be passionate about
6:41
politics so it would seem to be a curse
6:43
to never be able to say what you really
6:44
believe about politics I I have trouble
6:46
believing that anyone is comfortable
6:49
feeling pressure to say things they
6:52
don't actually believe because
6:54
I can't do that right like I struggle
6:57
with having to Pander to anybody which
7:00
is why like oftentimes I'll say what I
7:03
actually believe it'll lead to some
7:05
backlash and
7:06
I don't know I just don't care because
7:08
to me the backlash is worth it if I'm
7:10
able to actually be honest about my
7:12
genuine thoughts you get what I'm saying
7:15
but for me
7:18
speaking my mind is more valuable than
7:20
money
7:21
for a lot of people money is more
7:23
valuable than being able to speak their
7:24
mind right so I don't know it really
7:26
depends on what your personal values are
7:27
yeah in my opinion
7:29
um
7:30
now last but not least here are some of
7:33
the messages that Tucker sent Pfeiffer
7:35
this time after the capital riots took
7:38
place on January 6th
7:40
Trump has two weeks left once he's out
7:43
he becomes incalculably less powerful
7:45
even in the minds of his supporters he's
7:49
a demonic force a destroyer but he's not
7:54
going to destroy us I've been thinking
7:57
about this every day for four years
7:58
could we actually go back to the first
8:00
clip guys because I want I want you to
8:03
keep that comment in your mind as you
8:05
hear him being the pathetic coward that
8:08
he is let's listen
8:10
I love Trump like as a person I think
8:12
Trump is
8:13
Trump is funny and insightful
8:18
you know all wounded about those texts
8:21
um that was a moment in time where I was
8:24
absolutely infuriated
8:28
I mean
8:30
Trump has this incredible ability to
8:33
unman all these like pretend strong men
8:37
yeah yeah we've spent years mocking Mitt
8:41
Romney for his dinner photo where he's
8:42
like
8:43
and we've spent years mocking Ted Cruz
8:46
for his photo
8:47
that Tucker Carlson clip is every bit as
8:50
emasculating about him I love him no but
8:53
like think about where Tucker was on
8:54
January 6th like I've been thinking for
8:58
years about being able to move on from
8:59
him and we're almost there no oh he's
9:03
back and again if you're a trump fan
9:06
what are you doing following this guy it
9:09
is inarguable now he hates not just
9:13
Trump he hates what you love about Trump
9:15
he hates the Trump movement which you
9:18
were a part of he hates you why doesn't
9:22
that bother you boar but it doesn't
9:24
bother mostly it bothers it bothers
9:26
enough I guess that Tucker feels he
9:28
needs to do this which I did not predict
9:30
you would have to do I thought he
9:31
wouldn't even bother to address it but
9:33
also we've we've seen so many people
9:35
even some people that
9:37
say they're on the left or whatever
9:38
where like they can reveal who they
9:40
truly are and it doesn't matter it
9:42
doesn't matter because people they they
9:45
have like they have this like inertia of
9:47
this impression of you or a desire for
9:49
what you represent in the past or
9:52
whatever and so people can maintain this
9:55
cult status when they clearly are not
9:57
the person they've been pretending to be
9:59
a thousand percent uh now when uh Tucker
10:02
Carlson said
10:05
he said what he said about uh thinking
10:08
about how he's looking forward to not
10:10
having to deal with Trump uh for four
10:12
years straight every day for four years
10:14
uh Pfeiffer responded you're right I
10:17
don't want to let him destroy me either
10:18
the Trump anger spiral is vicious and
10:21
Carlson says that's for sure deadly it
10:25
almost consumed me in November when
10:27
Sydney Powell attacked us it was very
10:30
difficult to regain emotional control
10:32
but I knew I had to we've got two weeks
10:36
left we can do this pick up a phone
10:39
you're like pouring your heart out in
10:42
text messages man
10:43
I've never been that deep in text with
10:46
my wife so it's producers now with those
10:50
comments in mind we have more of Tucker
10:53
Carlson pathetically backpedaling let's
10:55
listen
10:57
those particular attacks were pulled at
10:59
the moment where I was texting with one
11:01
of my producers because some idiot on
11:02
the Trump campaign
11:05
um had sent us the name of these dead
11:07
voters who had voted and we went and I
11:10
repeated them on air and it turns out
11:12
some of them are alive
11:14
um so I was just I I felt humility yeah
11:16
like what and I thought then and I think
11:19
now that that election was not on the
11:22
level it was not a free and fair
11:24
election I I thought that then I think
11:25
it now I will say this my comments on TV
11:28
well I think my texts reflect who I am
11:31
I'm I'm vulgar in public in private
11:33
rather and I use like bad language and
11:36
stuff I've worked in a newsroom my whole
11:38
life and my wife's always trying to
11:39
improve me which is fair but my views
11:42
are pretty transparent I always say what
11:44
I think I can't keep track of too many
11:47
lies you know what I mean
11:50
that is hilarious that is one of the
11:53
funniest statements I've heard from
11:54
Tucker Carlson uh on November 11th of
11:57
2020 by the way Tucker Carlson claimed
11:59
that dead people
12:00
had voted in the election
12:02
that was a lie he knew it was a lie he
12:05
said it anyway many of the Dead voter
12:07
claims he listed as evidence were
12:09
immediately proven wrong they were
12:11
immediately debunked did he ever uh
12:13
retract those statements he seemed
12:15
humiliated by that you'll notice he
12:16
didn't like apologize to his viewers for
12:18
him uncritically accepting an argument
12:21
directly from a political campaign and
12:23
then just broadcasting it without any
12:25
thought whatsoever that apparently
12:26
didn't bother him well what he actually
12:28
ended up doing was uh he apologized and
12:32
kind of corrected his statements except
12:35
he said that's some ballots not not as
12:39
many as he thought but some ballots were
12:40
cast under dead people's names where's
12:43
the evidence I you're gonna have to ask
12:45
the Trump Camp I guess
12:48
um yeah I
12:50
it's just I mean it's it's so odd like I
12:53
I can't keep track of like too many lies
12:55
so I'm transparent well don't worry
12:56
we'll keep track of your lives for you
12:57
yeah we do a good job doing that yeah
12:59
um yeah but I love where he was like
13:01
okay so you've seen who I am and I will
13:04
apologize about being vulgar what do you
13:07
that's not what people have no that's
13:09
seriously that's like that's like your
13:10
girlfriend coming to you and you're like
13:12
I see this sex tape that you made with
13:14
another woman and you're like you know
13:16
what you've got me I did say some really
13:18
dirty things in that that's not the
13:20
thing that we're worried about at this
13:21
point worried about the the cheating
13:24
um but also again just to go back to the
13:25
last graphic I think that you showed can
13:28
you put up the one where he's pouring
13:29
his heart out for the producers
13:31
you really like it because again if
13:34
you're a Tucker Carlson viewer if you're
13:36
a Maga person I knew I had to we've got
13:40
two weeks left we can do this we can do
13:44
this we can do this wait we can do what
13:46
hang in there buddy we can hang in there
13:49
until Biden is President I know and then
13:52
I'll be saved you guys were storming the
13:56
barricades he was desperately waiting
13:59
for Joe Biden to be president and the
14:01
only then would he feel relief you guys
14:03
remember he's more excited for Biden to
14:05
become president than I was a thousand
14:07
percent thousand percent I I don't
14:10
recall sending you know you're a close
14:12
friend of mine I don't recall sending
14:13
you a text message on Election they say
14:15
like oh my gosh just a few more hours
14:18
John just hang in there
14:21
I know but I see the light at the end of
14:23
the tunnel yeah no it's amazing it
14:25
really is and remember Tucker Carlson
14:28
hit up Hunter Biden yeah to get a
14:32
recommendation letter for his son so his
14:35
son would get accepted into some fancy
14:37
private school yep okay so
14:39
I am actually very willing to believe
14:42
that Tucker Carlson has an affinity for
14:45
the bidens and and clearly despises
14:47
Trump but is so scared of Trump's
14:50
supporters that he will lie he will
14:53
degrade himself publicly he will
14:54
humiliate himself publicly oh it's just
14:58
so good it's so good
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Re: Dominion voting machines demands pro-Trump attorney Sidn

Postby admin » Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:44 am

New Fox emails: CEO says Trump fact-checks are ‘bad for business’
by Chris Hayes
MSNBC
Mar 29, 2023 #msnbc #foxnews #trump

Chris Hayes: “That email from Suzanne Scott, the CEO of Fox, distills this entire Fox-Dominion saga down to its very essence. You truly could not script a better tagline for this whole debacle than: ‘This is bad business...the audience is furious...’”



Transcript

0:07
>> [CHRIS HAYES] EVERY TIME WE GET A NEW
0:09
BATCH OF EVIDENCE FROM THE
0:10
DOMINION VOTING MACHINES
0:11
LAWSUIT, THINGS LOOK WORSE AND
0:13
WORSE FOR FOX.
0:14
TODAY, NBC NEWS OBTAINED A
0:15
SLIDE DECK PRESENTED BY
0:17
DOMINION'S LAWYERS DURING A
0:18
HEARING LAST WEEK.
0:19
IT PAINTS A DAMNING PICTURE OF
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A NETWORK THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY
0:23
TERRIFIED OF REPORTING THE
0:24
TRUTH, IF IT MEANT TELLING ITS
0:26
VIEWERS SOMETHING THEY DID NOT
0:27
WANT TO HEAR.
0:28
THE MOST REVELATORY PIECE OF
0:30
EVIDENCE IS AN EMAIL FROM FOX
0:32
NEWS CEO, SUZANNE SCOTT, THAT
0:34
IS HER.
0:35
THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY REDACTED
0:38
WHEN FOX FIRST DISCLOSED THESE
0:39
INTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS.
0:40
REMEMBER THERE ARE A BUNCH OF
0:42
REDACTIONS, THIS IS ONE OF
0:43
THEM.
0:43
NOW, IN THIS EMAIL, SCOTT IS
0:44
REACTING TO THIS FACT CHECK
0:46
FROM A FOX REPORTER IN DECEMBER,
0:48
2020, WHO WAS CORRECTLY
0:50
THROWING COLD WATER ON DONALD
0:51
TRUMP'S INCENDIARY CLAIMS OF A
0:53
RIGGED ELECTION.
0:56
>> [DONALD TRUMP] IT WAS A MASSIVE DUMP OF
0:57
VOTES.
1:00
MOSTLY BIDEN, ALMOST ALL BIDEN.
1:04
AND TO THIS DAY, EVERYONE IS
1:06
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WHERE DID
1:07
IT COME FROM?
1:08
>> [ERIC SHAWN, FOX NEWS] YOU JUST HEARD THE PRESIDENT
1:09
SAY IT.
1:10
HE BRANDS IT A MASSIVE DUMP OF
1:11
VOTES.
1:12
BUT ELECTION OFFICIALS SAY IT
1:14
IS NOT WHAT HE IMPLIES.
1:16
THEY SAY, THERE IS NO NEFARIOUS
1:17
BIG BATCH FOR BIDEN.
1:18
JUST VOTES THEY INSIST THAT ARE
1:20
BEING COUNTED PROPERLY, AS THE
1:22
LAW REQUIRES.
1:23
>> [CHRIS HAYES] BY THE WAY, THAT'S NOT EVEN
1:25
A REBUTTAL.
1:26
THAT'S JUST A HE SAID, HE SAID
1:27
SITUATION.
1:28
LIKE, TRUMP SAYS THIS,
1:29
ELECTION OFFICIALS SAY ....
1:30
AFTER THAT FACT CHECK AIRED ON
1:33
FOX, CEO, SUZANNE SCOTT,
1:34
WROTE AN EMAIL, THIS IS AMAZING,
1:37
OKAY?
1:37
WROTE AN EMAIL TO A FOX EXECUTIVE WHO
1:39
OVERSEES PRIME TIME PROGRAMMING
1:41
SAYING, QUOTE, "THIS HAS TO STOP
1:43
NOW.
1:43
THIS IS BAD BUSINESS.
1:45
THE AUDIENCE IS FURIOUS.
1:48
BAD FOR BUSINESS."
1:50
YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE.
1:52
IN THESE SLIDES DIRECTLY FROM
1:54
DOMINION.
1:54
I HAVE TO SAY, THAT EMAIL FROM
1:56
SUZANNE SCOTT, THE CEO OF FOX,
1:59
JUST DISTILLS THE ENTIRE FOX,
2:01
DOMINION SAGA DOWN TO ITS VERY
2:02
ESSENCE.
2:03
YOU TRULY COULD NOT SCRIPT A
2:04
BETTER TAGLINE FOR THIS WHOLE
2:06
DEBACLE THAN, "THIS IS BAD
2:08
BUSINESS, THE AUDIENCE IS
2:09
FURIOUS."
2:09
NOW, AGAIN, WE ARE JUST
2:11
LEARNING ABOUT THAT EMAIL NOW
2:12
BECAUSE FOX INITIALLY REDACTED
2:14
THAT EMAIL, I WONDER WHY, IN
2:15
THE BIG BATCH OF DOCUMENTS THAT
2:17
WERE MADE PUBLIC A FEW WEEKS
2:18
AGO.
2:18
I GUESS THEY DIDN'T WANT THE PUBLIC
2:20
TO REALIZE QUITE HOW CYNICAL
2:21
THEIR ENTIRE OPERATION IS.
2:22
BELIEVE ME, THERE IS MUCH MORE
2:24
WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
2:25
HERE'S ANOTHER ONE.
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A FEW WEEKS AFTER THE 2020
2:28
ELECTION, SUZANNE SCOTT, AGAIN,
2:29
WRITES, QUOTE, "I CAN'T KEEP
2:31
DEFENDING THESE REPORTERS WHO
2:32
DON'T UNDERSTAND OUR VIEWERS
2:33
AND HOW TO HANDLE STORIES.
2:35
THE AUDIENCE FEELS LIKE WE
2:37
CRAPPED ON THEM.
2:37
WE'VE DAMAGED THEIR TRUST AND
2:39
BELIEF IN US.
2:39
WE LOST 25,000 SUBS FROM FOX
2:43
NATION.
2:43
WE CAN FIX THIS, BUT WE
2:47
CANNOT SMIRK AT OUR VIEWERS ANY
2:49
LONGER."
2:49
"SMIRK AT OUR VIEWERS."
2:51
TELLING THEM THE TRUTH, TELLING THEM THE
2:52
ELECTION WAS NOT RIGGED.
2:53
THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY REAL PANIC
2:55
AT THE TOP LEVELS OF FOX AT THE
2:57
NETWORK, BECAUSE FOX VIEWERS
2:58
DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR THEIR
3:00
FAVORITE ANCHORS AND PUNDITS ON
3:02
THEIR FAVORITE NETWORK FACT
3:04
CHECKING THEIR FAVORITE
3:05
PRESIDENT.
3:05
ANOTHER EXCHANGE, THIS IS ON
3:07
JANUARY 5TH, 2021.
3:08
FOX'S
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RUPERT MURDOCH FLOATS THE
3:11
POSSIBILITY OF HAVING THE
3:12
NETWORK'S PRIMETIME HOSTS
3:13
EXPLICITLY TELL VIEWERS THAT
3:15
JOE BIDEN WON THE ELECTION.
3:16
THIS IS JANUARY 5TH, OKAY?
3:17
ONLY FOR SUZANNE SCOTT TO
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APPEAR TO PASS THE MESSAGE
3:20
ALONG TO ANOTHER EXECUTIVE WITH
3:22
THE WARNING, QUOTE, "WE NEED TO
3:23
BE CAREFUL ABOUT USING THE
3:25
SHOWS AND PISSING OFF THE
3:27
VIEWERS."
3:27
IN DECEMBER, SCOTT ALSO SENT
3:30
ALONG A SUGGESTION TO "BOOK MIKE
3:32
PILLOW," THAT'S THE MEGA
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CONSPIRACY THEORIST, I THINK
3:35
THAT'S HIS NAME, WHO IS ONE OF
3:36
THE MOST VOCAL PROPONENTS OF
3:37
THE BIG LIE, BECAUSE HE WOULD,
3:39
QUOTE, "GET RATINGS."
3:40
SPEAKING OF THE PILLOW GUY, IN
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ANOTHER EXCHANGE, STAFF ON
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TUCKER CARLSON'S SHOW SAID, HE
3:46
QUOTE, "SEEMS TO HAVE GONE OFF
3:47
THE DEEP END AND IS, QUOTE,
3:49
"DEFINITELY CRAZY."
3:50
BUT THEY STILL WANTED TO BOOK
3:51
HIM ON THE SHOW AND THIS IS
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AMAZING, RIGHT?
3:54
LISTEN TO THIS.
3:54
BECAUSE HE WAS A MAJOR
3:56
ADVERTISER WHO STUCK AROUND.
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I QUOTE HERE, "I KNOW THERE IS
4:00
CONCERN ABOUT HIM BEING A
4:01
CONSPIRACY THEORIST NOW, BUT HE
4:03
HAS BAILED US OUT LOADS OF
4:06
TIMES WHEN NO ONE ELSE WOULD,"
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MEANING HE'S BOUGHT ADS ON THEIR
4:09
PROGRAM WHEN NO ONE ELSE WOULD.
4:10
"HE'S ALSO BEEN MOVING TO
4:12
NEWSMAX LATELY.
4:12
MIGHT BE GOOD BUSINESS MOVE TO
4:15
SIGNAL WE WOULDN'T
4:17
DESERT HIM."
4:17
AT WHICH, POINT ANOTHER
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PRODUCER CHIMES INTO ADD, QUOTE,
4:20
"HE IS CRAZY AND ABOUT TO GET
4:21
SUED BY DOMINION."
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HMMM ... PRESCIENT.
4:24
"WTF IS HE GOING TO SAY ON OUR AIR?"
4:27
SO ON ONE HAND, YOU'VE GOT A
4:28
CONSPIRACY THEORIST WHO YOU
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ADMIT IS A LAWSUIT WAITING TO
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HAPPEN BECAUSE HE'S MAKING
4:32
PROBABLY DEFAMATORY CLAIMS ON
4:34
YOUR AIR.
4:34
ON THE OTHER HAND, HE'S MAKING
4:37
IT RAIN ALL OVER YOUR SHOW WHEN
4:39
NO ONE ELSE WILL.
4:40
SO, MAYBE YOU JUST GIVE HIM A
4:42
PLATFORM ANYWAY?
4:44
AFTER ALL, YOU CAN'T HAVE HIM GO
4:46
SPEND HIS MONEY AT RIVAL
4:47
NEWSMAX INSTEAD.
4:49
HONESTLY, THERE'S SO MUCH
4:51
DAMNING INFORMATION THERE.
4:52
WE CAN EASILY SPEND HALF
4:53
THE SHOW UNPACKING IT. THE
4:54
BIGGEST TAKEAWAY IS THIS, FOX'S
4:56
PROFIT LINE, AND IT'S A HIGH
4:58
PROFIT LINE, WAS AND IS SO DEPENDENT
5:00
ON ITS AUDIENCE BELIEVING LIES
5:03
THAT IT HAD TO STAMP OUT THE
5:05
TRUTH ON ITS OWN AIR, IN ORDER
5:07
TO KEEP THE MONEY FLOWING. IT IS MORE CYNICAL AND CRAVEN THAN ANYTHING FOX'S WORST CRITICS COULD HAVE IMAGINED.
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Re: Dominion voting machines demands pro-Trump attorney Sidn

Postby admin » Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:09 am

Blame Rupert Murdoch and Fox for Iraq, Trump, and The Big Lie
by Mehdi Hasan
MSNBC
Apr 20, 2023 #RupertMurdoch #FOXNews #TheBigLie

"Three of the most destructive events of my lifetime -- the Iraq war, the Brexit vote, and the rise of Trump and his Big Lie simply could not have happened without Rupert Murdoch." In this week's deep dive, Mehdi examines the influence that Rupert Murdoch and his media empire have had on decades of global events.



Transcript

[Mehdi Hasan] Back in 2005, or was it 2006, I was a young TV news producer working at Sky News in London, then part of the Rupert Murdoch media Empire. And one day, Rupert Murdoch himself, turns up in the Newsroom in West London for a visit. We're sitting at our desks, frozen in fear, as the big boss, the media Mogul himself, wanders the Newsroom floor, looking over our shoulders, as we work at our computers. Imagine my surprise, nearly two decades later, to see this scene in the critically acclaimed HBO drama, and my favorite TV show, Succession.

[Man 1] Hey hey hey hey hey, so, uh, so Logan said --

[Tom Wambsgans] Logan's in? Where? Upstairs? In a sales meeting?

[Man 1] He's on the floor, Tom.

[Tom Wambsgans] On the floor?

[Man 3] Wait. Explain exactly what he's doing with his body and his face?

[Man 1] I don't know. Just moseying, terrifyingly moseying. He's wearing sunglasses inside. It looks like if Santa Claus was a hitman.

[Mehdi Hasan] Yes, Logan Roy, the cynical ruthless media billionaire -- and spoiler alert -- until very recently, until his shocking on-screen death, the lead character on Succession, who bears a, shall we say, passing resemblance to the very real life, and very alive, cynical, ruthless media billionaire Rupert Murdoch.

Now the writers of Succession like to say the Roys are not based on the Murdochs, or only on the Murdochs. But it's hard not to see the similarities between Logan and family, and Rupert and family: an immigrant who comes to America, and builds a media empire. Check. In charge of a right-wing, scandal-plagued cable channel. Check. Bent on picking Presidents, and dominating politics. Check. Three super ambitious squabbling kids from a second marriage, all trying to succeed him. I mean, here's Logan Roy addressing the staff of his news organization, ATN, in a recent episode, standing on boxes of paper to do so. And here's Rupert Murdoch addressing the staff of one of his news organizations, The Wall Street Journal, back in 2007.

Or just compare and contrast, as many have, Murdoch testifying in front of a British parliamentary Committee in 2011 over a scandal involving his media empire, and Logan Roy and his son testifying in front of Congress over a scandal involving his fictitious media empire.

[Rupert Murdoch] This is the most humble day of my life.

[Logan Roy] When I read of the abuses of power alleged in my cruise division, well, that was the worst day of my life."

[Congressman] So none of your UK staff drew your attention to this serious wrongdoing, even though the case received widespread media attention?

[Rupert Murdoch] I think my son can perhaps answer that in more detail. He was a lot closer to it.

[Congressman] Mr. Logan Roy, what did you personally know about the operation of a system of obfuscation of wrongdoing in your cruise division by means of the keeping of shadow logs?

[Logan Roy] At that point I believe my son was across that operation.

[Mehdi Hasan] With Murdoch, as with Logan Roy, it's all about the ego, the power, the influence.

[Australian Broadcasting Corporation] You like the feeling of power you have as a newspaper proprietor, of being able to, sort of, formulate policies for a large number of newspapers in every state of Australia?

[Rupert Murdoch] Well, [inaudible] yes.

[Logan Roy] I'm 100 feet tall. These people are pygmies.

[Mehdi Hasan] It's the power of Rupert Murdoch, and the sheer power of Murdoch, to do damage to our politics, our media, our world which is what I want to discuss and examine today. Because as we've just seen this week, Rupert Murdoch narrowly escaped testifying publicly in the case brought against Fox by Dominion voting systems. In a major anti-climax, Dominion agreed to settle with Fox just moments before opening arguments were set to begin in court on Tuesday, leaving Fox with a $787.5 million dollar hole in their pocket -- a seemingly huge number -- but in the context of the $14 billion dollars in Revenue that they got last year, it's just 5.%.

And Fox, the quote unquote "news channel," is of course, just a sliver of the massive media Empire beneath Rupert Murdoch, an Empire with a footprint on three continents: hundreds of print TV and publishing outlets, and billions of dollars in profits, that all started when Rupert's father, Keith Murdoch, an Australian journalist and newspaper publisher, left him his company, "News Limited," after his death.

Taking over the business in his early 20s, the younger Murdoch spent the next decade buying up small papers across Australia before making the leap into the British and American markets. Today he's the man behind names like the Wall Street Journal, and the New York Post in the U.S.; The Times and the Sun in the UK; The Herald Sun and the Daily Telegraph in Australia; International publishing giant Harper-Collins; and of course Fox.

The list goes on and on. It's staggering to see just how much influence Murdoch has in the U.S., let alone on a global scale. And if Succession has taught us anything, it's that rich and powerful people will put that influence to use. And Murdoch, for one, doesn't hide this. He's been meeting with, and lobbying presidents for decades, going as far back as JFK, who he met in the Oval Office in 1961; and Ronald Reagan, who invited him to dinner -- a dinner so enthralling, The Washington Post reports, that the President himself fell asleep.

And then there was Donald Trump, not really known as a hugger, who seemed to make an exception for Rupert Murdoch. But it wasn't just hugs and golf outings -- Trump is the one chauffeuring Murdoch around the golf course in this video -- but also frequent Oval Office phone calls, as the New Yorker reported in 2019.

And it's not just U.S. presidents he's met with. He's met with prime ministers around the world, too, like Margaret Thatcher in the UK, and John Howard in Australia. Murdoch's influence on politics is hard to overstate. But don't just take it from me. Take it from former Australian prime minister, Kevin Rudd, on this very show.

[Kevin Rudd] In the last 21 federal and state elections, over the last decade in Australia, in each and every one of them, Murdoch has acted as a relentless campaigning beast for the conservative side of politics, and increasingly drifting the agenda on the right to the far right. These two things together: monopoly, plus an overwhelming ideological bias to the far right, frankly is a big challenge, and a threat to the vibrancy of our own democracy.

[Mehdi Hasan] The fact of the matter here is that Murdoch doesn't just have the power to settle lawsuits. He has the power to move world events, almost always, in my view, in a negative and harmful way. I mean, as we'll demonstrate today, three of the most destructive events of my lifetime: Iraq war; the Brexit vote; and the rise of Trump and his Big Lie, simply could not have happened without Rupert Murdoch.

Let's go back 20 years. The US invasion of Iraq began with a campaign of bombings known as Shock and Awe, and as U.S. and Coalition troops prepared to enter harm's way on March the 20th, 2003, some of the people responsible for the war were watching from a safe distance, thousands of miles away. As David Kirkpatrick reported in the New York Times, "He watched the explosions over Baghdad on a panel of seven television screens mounted in the wall ... telling friends and colleagues over the phone of his satisfaction that after weeks of a hand-wringing the battle had finally begun."

"The battle had finally begun." Now you could be forgiven for thinking this was an account from the White House Situation Room where George Bush, and Dick Cheney, and Don Rumsfeld, spent plenty of time in those early days of the Iraq War. But according to the Times, the scene, with those seven monitors, was actually at Fox headquarters in LA. And the guy sharing his satisfaction with friends and colleagues was Rupert Murdoch.

You can understand why he was satisfied. He had used all his power and influence to make it happen. The New York Times even called it "Mr. Murdoch's War." For months his vast media organization agitated for Invasion. The Guardian newspaper examined 175 Murdoch owned papers in the run-up to war. Coincidentally -- completely coincidentally -- all of them supported the invasion. There was one hold out in Tasmania, but It ultimately fell into line with its corporate cousins, too. But sure, there was no pressure from the top there!

"I think that all our papers are certainly supportive of the Armed Forces," Murdoch told the New York Times in the spring of 2003. "But that is not me calling the editors." No! Just coincidence!

"How lucky can Murdoch get!" the Guardian observed. "He hires 175 editors and, by remarkable coincidence, they all seem to love the nation which their boss has chosen as his own."

But there was no pretense of separation between Murdoch and his cable channel, Fox. "When Mr. Murdoch is in New York during major news events, as he was during the first full week of the war, he attends the 8 A.M. meetings of the producers of Fox News, sometimes two or three times a week, a Fox executive told the Times."

And this is what Murdoch's Network looked like back then.

[Fox News] Coalition forces are cutting to Iraqi defenses quickly.

[Fox News] Today they are tasting freedom.

[Fox News] Well it may be too early to say, "we told you so," but if the tests are accurate, the U.S. may have just found its smoking gun.

[Fox News] Our president, the man they call their liberator.

[Sean Hannity] By golly, he has done a pretty great job here.

[Fox News] OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM

[Mehdi Hasan] Yes, they really had theme music, and an animation where a fighter jet turns into a bald eagle. There was also the American flag constantly waving on the screen, there were the repeated descriptions of American forces as liberators, and the constant fear-mongering about fictitious WMDs. There were attacks on other reporters who dared to report on setbacks in the war effort.

But it wasn't just Murdoch's media Empire that was turned towards the push for war. Sometimes it takes a personal touch. In the final days before the invasion, British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, had still not publicly committed to taking part in the invasion -- at least, not on the timeline that the U.S. wanted. On the night of March the 11th, 2003, according to the diary of a top Blair aid, he got a call from Rupert Murdoch. As the Independent Newspaper notes, "A later inquiry says that Downing Street has no record of this call, implying that the Tycoon did not need to go through the Downing Street switchboard. According to the diary, kept by Blair spin doctor, Alistair Campbell, Murdoch was pressing on timing, saying how News International would support us, etc. "Both Tony Blair and I felt it was prompted by Washington, and another example of their over-crude diplomacy."

Murdoch later called it rubbish to suggest he was lobbying for war on behalf of U.S. Republicans. But still this account suggests that Murdoch had a direct line to the British prime minister -- no need to go through the switchboard.

But you don't even have to take the word of Tony Blair's aid. Because Murdoch was also making the case for war himself, in public. "We can't back down now, where you hand over the whole of the Middle East to Saddam. I think Bush is acting very morally, very correctly," he said ahead of the invasion.

And he continued to defend the war, even as casualties mounted, and WMDs were nowhere to be found. In the fall of 2006, he told reporters, "The death toll, certainly of Americans there, by the terms of any previous war, are quite minute." Maybe not surprising that Murdoch's longtime rival, CNN founder Ted Turner, talking about Iraq, once called Murdoch a "warmonger."

But why was Rupert Murdoch so big on the Iraq war effort to begin with? Was it his love for democracy in the Middle East, his Devotion to the neo-conservative political project, or was it just good for business?

Fox's Prime Time ratings were up 45% the year of the invasion: the unseated cable news longtime rival CNN. That translated into revenue which more than doubled during peak war coverage.

There was real money to be made from the illegal Invasion, for everyone. Murdoch told an Australian magazine in 2003, "The greatest thing to come out of this for the world economy, if you could put it that way, would be $20 dollars a barrel for oil. That's bigger than any tax cut in any country."

Yeah, cheaper oil! Talk about quiet part out loud.

Whatever his motivations, Rupert Murdoch helped make that war happen. As even the right-wing editor of the Daily Mail once said, "I'm not sure that the Blair government, or Tony Blair, would have been able to take the British people to war if it hadn't been for the implacable support provided by the Murdoch papers. There's no doubt that came from Mr. Murdoch himself."

But you don't have to take a Murdoch rival's word for it. You could listen to Murdoch.

[Davos, Switzerland, WEF] Have you shaped that agenda at all, in terms of perceptions of the war, in terms of how the war is viewed?

[Rupert Murdoch] No, I don't think so. I mean, we've tried. [Laughter]

[Davos, Switzerland, WEF] "Tried" in what way?

[Rupert Murdoch] Well, we basically supported -- our papers and television, I would say supported the Bush policy in the Middle East.

[Mehdi Hasan] I've said it before on this show, the original Big Lie was the WMD lie. And almost two decades before Murdoch's Fox was pushing Trump's big election lie -- which I'll get to in a moment -- it was pushing George Bush's big Iraq lie about weapons of mass destruction. And as with the election lie, their viewers, back then, believed it!

A 2003 survey found that 80% of regular Fox viewers believe something demonstrably false about the WMD-based war effort. And the facts never actually did catch up with them. Even in 2015, 12 years after the invasion, a survey found that more than half of Fox viewers thought the WMDs were discovered in Iraq! They weren't! But that's the sheer power of Murdoch's propaganda.

So let's turn now to Brexit, the UK's decision to leave the European Union. Since that pivotal vote in 2016, the UK has seen no less than four prime ministers resign, and utter havoc unleashed on the British economy, and the undermining of the European Union at a time when domestic far-right populists are on the rise, and Vladimir Putin's expansionist Russia is at the doorstep.

And yet Brexit almost didn't happen. The "leave" side, the pro-Brexit side, won the 2016 referendum by less than four percentage points, with 51.9% of citizens voting to leave, and 48.1% voting to remain.

So how is it that the British public could make such a self-sabotaging decision by such a narrow margin? As we saw with the Iraq War, Murdoch played a crucial role, beginning with that personal touch. Again, don't just take it from me, take it from a former conservative prime minister of the UK in the 1990s, John Major. Here he is recounting, years later, a conversation with Murdoch that he had at a dinner during his 1997 election campaign.

[John Major] Mr. Murdoch said that he really didn't like our European policies. If we couldn't change our European policies, his papers could not, and would not, support the conservative government. My feeling -- and he did not say this -- my feeling was that what he was edging towards was a referendum on leaving the European Union.

[Mehdi Hasan] Of Murdoch's four British papers at the time, only one ended up supporting John Major in 1997.

Fast forward to 2016, and Murdoch wasn't just "edging" towards Brexit, he was bolting for it, bolting with the help of his hard right tabloid the Sun newspaper, the most widely read print newspaper in all of the UK. And the Sun did far more than throw out some cheeky pro-Brexit headlines. Their parent company, News Group Newspapers, actually registered themselves with the UK's electoral commission as an official "Leave EU" campaign Group, after spending more than 96,000 pounds on the Sun's "Believe in Britain" posters. That's right. Murdoch's news organization doubled down as a pro-Brexit lobbying group, as one does when they are pursuing the most basic standards of "journalistic integrity."

It didn't stop there. There were also the false claims. The Sun published a story about migrants from Europe found in the back of a truck, a supposed instance of Europeans flooding the UK under the EU's "Freedom of Movement" laws, except the Sun had to issue a correction after social media users pointed out that those migrants weren't from Europe, they were from Iraq and Kuwait. The Sun ran this headline claiming "Queen Backs Brexit," a claim disputed by the Queen. And an independent press watchdog later condemned the headline as "significantly misleading."

Now, you could say that the Sun is just a newspaper, a tabloid, a couple of sheets of paper with words stamped onto them. How much impact could it really have on public opinion? Well, let me take you to the city of Liverpool. You see, by chance, a lot of the people in Liverpool don't read the Sun. That's because the paper wrongly blamed local football fans, soccer fans, for an incident at a match in 1989. So many residents since have basically boycotted the Sun because of that awful coverage of the Hillsborough tragedy.

So, in Liverpool, researchers found that residents were 10% less Eurosceptic than the rest of the UK. It also found that Liverpool residents' views of the EU improved significantly as a result of the newspaper, the Sun, boycott.

Of course, correlation does not mean causation. The Sun was not the only tabloid to be overwhelmingly pro-Brexit at the time. But it's impossible to deny that the Sun has had a clear impact on British opinion.

Now, question: why did Murdoch care so much about Brexit, getting Brexit done, to begin with? Perhaps he was bothered by the alleged lack of democracy in the EU, or the supposed attack on UK National sovereignty -- though he's not even a British citizen. Well, Evening Standard reporter, Anthony Hilton, says he once asked Murdoch why he was so anti-Europe? And he says Murdoch replied, "When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice."

Wow!

Now, Murdoch denies ever having said that, but we do know that he's long been critical of EU regulations -- in fact, most regulations. And we do know that Brexit made him, and his media empire, stronger, while making his opponents, his critics, weaker. Just another coincidence!

But if you think Murdoch's role in Iraq, or Brexit, was bad, now it's time to talk Trump, Trumpism, and the Big Lie. Rupert Murdoch was deeply involved in the biggest political event of our lifetimes: the rise of Donald J Trump. All roads lead back to him, and to Fox. Again.

Now I know what you're thinking: Maybe the Fox News quote unquote "stood up" to Trump back in 2016. Former Fox star, Megyn Kelly, was famously clashing with the Donald back then. And Rupert Murdoch went so far as to refer to Trump as "an idiot." But these are Minor Details, because the fact is Fox, for many years, in advance of 2016, laid the groundwork for Trump's presidential victory. Fox built a conservative audience enraged and agitated by "birther" conspiracies, and anti-immigrant sentiment. They primed millions of viewers to care about ridiculous non-issues that Donald Trump would successfully exploit during his first primary campaign, and then general election campaign.

Not to mention the fact that starting in 2011, Fox literally gave then-private-citizen, then-businessman Donald Trump, free air time every week with his own recurring segment, "Mondays with Trump."

[Fox Mondays With Trump] Bold, brash, and never bashful. The Donald now makes his voice loud and clear every Monday on Fox.

[Donald Trump] My message is a better message than anybody else.

[Fox Mondays With Trump] Monday Mornings With Trump, on Fox and Friends.

[Fox News Reporter] If you were in charge of this super committee, what would happen?

[Donald Trump] Well, first of all, there would have been no "Super Committee." This should have been a deal made between the President -- if he was a proper leader, which he's not.

[Fox News Reporter to young boy] Do you know who this guy is, right here?

[Boy] Donald Trump?

[Fox News Reporter to young boy] Yeah, that's right. [Laughter]

[Donald Trump] I called Steve. And I said, you know, I just saw the nicest guy on television, and his bike was stolen -- and you knew about the report -- and I said, "Let's get him a new bike, get him a beauty."

[Mehdi Hasan] Fox contributed to the myth of Donald Trump way before he became candidate Trump. And after he took the Republican nomination, they basically became his propaganda arm. And once he took the White House, they morphed into State TV.

[Lou Dobbs, Fox News] America has always been a country that seems to get lucky. And we are lucky to have Donald Trump step up for the most important job in this country.

[Judge Jeanine Pirro] The whole idea to say that women who support Trump are numbor dead inside! How dare you trash the women in this country!

[Fox News] A majority of veterans and service members, giving high marks to President Trump.

[Fox News] The most extraordinary, wonderful thing today, was nominating President Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.

[Sean Hannity] Joe Biden just got steamrolled by President Trump.

[Mehdi Hasan] Then comes 2020, when Trump lost his re-election bid, and Fox and Murdoch had a moment of opportunity to break with Trump, the man Murdoch once called "an idiot." They had the chance to say, "You lost. We're done with you, now let's move on." And yet, even while bashing Trump in private, Fox hosts and guests still pushed the Big Lie on their shows, which is why Fox was in court this week with Dominion voting systems.

And not just Fox hosts. Rupert Murdoch himself, in private, was calling out Trump lies. In an email to Fox CEO Suzanne Scott, revealed in the Dominion filings, Murdoch suggested Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, and Laura Ingraham, together, say something like, "the election is over, and Joe Biden won." Going so far as to call Trump's election narrative "a myth."

After January the 6th, Murdoch wrote in this email, to Suzanne Scott, "Trump insisting on the election being stolen, and convincing 25% of Americans, was a huge disservice to the country. Pretty much a crime. Inevitable it blew up on January 6th."

But when asked in his Dominion deposition whether he could have told a host -- his own hosts -- "stop putting Giuliani, Rudy Giuliani, on the air," he answered, quote, "I could have, but I didn't."

So if Murdoch thought his hosts were going too far with their support for the Big Lie, if he had the power to stop them, why did Murdoch's Network continue to push pro-Trump, Pro Big-Lie content to its audience? Not because Murdoch respects Trump. Not because Murdoch believed in the Big Lie. He didn't. But he does believe in ratings.

"A big message with Trump people" -- that's the reason he gave when demanding the firing of the Fox journalists who had accurately -- accurately -- called the key State of Arizona for Joe Biden on Election night. Murdoch emailed Scott, Suzanne Scott, to voice concern about losing viewers to far-right cable channel Newsmax. And the Fox chairman also admitted to former house Speaker Paul Ryan, a Fox Board member, that his star primetime host, Sean Hannity, had been privately disgusted by Trump for weeks, but was scared to lose viewers.

Once again, the number one priority for Rupert Murdoch, and his media empire, was not telling the truth about Trump, or the election -- it was their bottom line. And don't just take my word for it. Take his! In his Dominion deposition, Murdoch told lawyers, "Nobody wants Trump as an enemy," because, as Murdoch said, "if Trump says don't watch Fox News, maybe some don't." Yeah "Profile-In-Courage" there, Rupert!

Look. On TV Succession, Logan Roy may now be dead, but in the real world, Rupert Murdoch is very much alive, having beaten COVID in his 90s, beaten a broken back in his 80s, and even beaten cancer in his 60s, after which he famously declared, "I'm now convinced of my own immortality."

This week Murdoch beat Dominion. He did. Don't think paying $787 million is a defeat for Murdoch. No, he dodged accountability. Again. He dodged having to take the witness box, and testify under oath. Again.

As media critic Jack Shafer writes in a piece this week for Politico, headlined, "Rupert Wins Again," quote, "ever since Rupert Murdoch busted out of Adelaide, Australia, ever since he conquered the newspaper market in England, ever since he came to dominate cable news with Fox, he's paid his way out of jams. It's all a part of Murdoch's way of doing business."


Shafer calls Murdoch "indestructible." Which is both true, and ironic. Because he may be indestructible, but he's helped cause so much destruction. From the killing fields of Iraq, to the chaos of Brexit Britain, to the Big Lie and the insurrection here in the United States. All in the service not of principle, or even ideology. But for the sake of power and money.

Once again, you don't have to take my word for it. When asked in his Dominion deposition why Fox continued to give a platform to the pillow guy and conspiracy theorist, Mike Lindell, even after January the 6th, Rupert Murdock agreed with the Dominion lawyers that his approach is not red or blue, it's green.
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