Interview: Maria Bartiromo Interviews Donald Trump on Fox News
November 29, 2020
[Transcribed by Tara Carreon]
-- TRUMP'S PREMEDITATED 2020 ELECTION COUP: REVENGE FOR RUSSIAGATE RAPEUTATION. Transcript of Donald Trump Speech on Election Fraud Claims (46-Minute Speech), by President Donald Trump
-- The Real Scandal: U.S. Media Uses Falsehoods to Defend Joe Biden From Hunter's Emails. Article on Joe and Hunter Biden Censored By The Intercept: An attempt to assess the importance of the known evidence, and a critique of media lies to protect their favored candidate, could not be published at The Intercept, by Glenn Greenwald
[Maria] And now, the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, on the telephone. Mr. President, thank you very much for being here.
[Trump] Thank you, Maria. Thank you.
[Maria] It is great to have you, and I want to say, that Americans today have a lot of questions this morning, Mr. President. We hope you can be as precise as possible, and we can get through as much as possible this morning. Thank you for talking with us in the first interview since Election Day.
Mr. President, you've said many times that this election was rigged; that there was much fraud. And the facts are on your side. Let's start there. Please go through the facts. Characterize what took place.
[Trump] Well, first of all, I have to start by saying that the whole world is watching, and nobody can believe what they're seeing, and you have leaders of countries that call me and say, "That's the most messed up election we've ever seen."
You start with these machines that are suspect, not allowed to be used in Texas -- the Dominion machines, where tremendous reports have been put out, we have affidavits from many people talking about what went on with machines, they had glitches. Do you know what a glitch is? A glitch is supposed to be when a machine breaks down. Well, no, we had glitches where they moved thousands of votes from my account to Biden's account. And these are glitches.
So they are not glitches, they are theft! They are fraud! Absolute fraud! And there were many of them. But obviously most of them, you know, tremendous amounts, got by without us catching -- we got lucky to catch them. I think we caught four or five glitches of about 5,000 votes each. And different states. And again, they are not glitches, that was fraud. And they got caught. But, for the most part, they got away with it.
And what happened, if you watched the election, I was called by the Biggest People saying, "Congratulations." Political people. "Congratulations, Sir, you just won the election." It was 10:00, and you looked at the numbers, and I'm sure you felt that way. This election was over. And then they did DUMPS. They call them DUMPS. BIG MASSIVE DUMPS in Michigan, in Pennsylvania, and all over. If you take a look at almost every state that we're talking about, swing states that we're talking about, and they did these massive dumps of votes, and all of a sudden I went from winning by a lot to losing by a little. And in some cases, it took a period of time to do it. In North Carolina, they couldn't do it. I won North Carolina. They couldn't -- somehow they had a better system. But they couldn't do anything. I believe they tried. We have affidavits. But they couldn't do anything with -- it's really a great place, North Carolina. I appreciate the incredible work that they put in, and we won. But they did tens of thousands, tens of thousands of Biden votes. And all of a sudden, I went from -- and I could tell you the people that were calling me and congratulating me are people that you know very well: Friends of your show. They said, "It's over." I said, "Well, I hear bad things about the machines; I hear bad things about corruption." One of your great pollsters, who actually got it right -- you know, the gentleman I am talking about -- he said, "Well, Trump is going to win Pennsylvania, but you have to allow at least 5% for cheating, because they cheat. And that's in Philadelphia, and various areas around Philadelphia. They cheat, and they cheat like crazy. So we have him winning Pennsylvania, but you have to allow 5 points for cheating."
This is a TERRIBLE thing that has happened! The mail-in ballots are a disaster. They sent millions and millions and millions of mail-in ballots. I'm sure you know people who got 2, 3 or 4, because I do, where they said, "I got four ballots: I got one at a country home." Dead people were seeing ballots. But even worse, dead people were applying to get a ballot. They were making application to get ballots. Many. And you know, we're not talking about ten people. We're talking, THERE ARE A LOT OF DEAD PEOPLE that so-called "voted" in this election. But dead people, in some cases, in many, many cases, THOUSANDS OF CASES, voted. But also dead people made application to vote. They were dead ten years, 15 years, and they actually made application.
THIS IS TOTAL FRAUD, and how the FBI and Department of Justice -- I don't know, maybe they are involved, but how people are allowed to get away with this stuff is unbelievable.
THIS ELECTION WAS RIGGED! THIS ELECTION WAS A TOTAL FRAUD! And it continues to be as they hide. And the problem we have, we go to judges, but people don't want to get involved. The media doesn't even want to cover it! You're doing something -- you're actually very brave, because you're doing something the media doesn't want to talk about it. They know how fraudulent this is! It's no different than Hunter [Biden]! It's no different than Hunter! They don't want to talk about Hunter! So they totally closed it off -- Big Tech and the media, other than the New York Post, as you remember, which took a lot of heat. It was terminated. It was terminated from, I guess, Twitter.
By now, it’s well-established that most of the arguments put forward by President Trump’s reelection campaign in its challenge of the results of the 2020 election are baseless and highly speculative. Even Trump allies, as The Washington Post reported late Tuesday, acknowledge the apparent futility of the effort. Others have reasoned that there’s no harm in going through the motions, with one anonymous GOP official asking, “What’s the downside for humoring him” for a little while?
But as scenes in courtrooms nationwide in recent days have shown, there is indeed a downside for those tasked with pursuing these claims. Repeatedly now, they have been rebuked by judges for how thin their arguments have been.
The most famous scene came in Pennsylvania, where a Trump lawyer strained to avoid acknowledging that their people were, in fact, allowed to observe the vote-counting process in Philadelphia:At the city’s federal courthouse on Thursday evening, attorneys for Trump asked a judge to issue an emergency order to stop the count, alleging that all Republican observers had been barred.
Under sharp questioning from Judge Paul S. Diamond, however, they conceded that Trump in fact had “a nonzero number of people in the room,” leaving Diamond audibly exasperated.
“I’m sorry, then what’s your problem?” asked Diamond, who was appointed to the federal bench by President George W. Bush. Denying Trump’s request, Diamond struck a deal for 60 observers from each party to be allowed inside.
At one point on Friday afternoon, 12 Republican observers and five Democrats were watching the count, according to a ballot counter who was working.
After that “nonzero” answer, Diamond pressed the Trump campaign lawyer to be more explicit — and he suggestively invoked their standing with the bar: “I’m asking you as a member of the bar of this court: Are people representing the plaintiffs in the room?” The lawyer responded more directly: “Yes.” By the end of the hearing, Diamond invoked his right to make sure lawyers in his courtroom acted in good faith.Man vs Baby @mattcoyney
The transcript from one of Trump’s legal challenges is fascinating. The judge trying to get to the bottom of whether they WERE allowed to have observers:
Judge: “Are your observers in the counting room?”
Trump lawyer: "There's a non-zero number of people in the room.”
2:25 PM, Nov 6, 2020
Another Trump lawyer, Jonathan S. Goldstein, was also grilled by a Pennsylvania judge this week. Under questioning, he acknowledged that, contrary to Trump’s claims about rampant voter fraud, he wasn’t alleging fraud in the 592 ballots he sought to disqualify in Montgomery County, Pa.
Again, Trump’s lawyer strained to avoid directly answering the question but was ultimately forced to acknowledge it:THE COURT: In your petition, which is right before me — and I read it several times — you don’t claim that any electors or the Board of the County were guilty of fraud, correct? That’s correct?
GOLDSTEIN: Your Honor, accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step. And it is rare that I call somebody a liar, and I am not calling the Board of the [Democratic National Committee] or anybody else involved in this a liar. Everybody is coming to this with good faith. The DNC is coming with good faith. We’re all just trying to get an election done. We think these were a mistake, but we think they are a fatal mistake, and these ballots ought not be counted.
THE COURT: I understand. I am asking you a specific question, and I am looking for a specific answer. Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?
GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present, no.
THE COURT: Are you claiming that there is any undue or improper influence upon the elector with respect to these 592 ballots?
GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present, no.
The Trump campaign also sought to temporarily stop counting some ballots in Detroit. It cited a GOP poll watcher who had said she had been told by an unidentified person that late mail ballots were being predated to before Election Day, so they would be considered valid.
The judge repeatedly asserted this was hearsay, but Trump campaign lawyer Thor Hearne sought to argue that it wasn’t — despite it having been someone who said they heard about something they weren’t personally involved in. He pointed to a vague note the poll watcher produced — which said “entered receive date as 11/2/20 on 11/4/20” — as evidence:STEPHENS: So I want to make sure I understand you. The affiant is not the person who had knowledge of this. Is that correct?
HEARNE: The affiant had direct firsthand knowledge of the communication with the elections inspector and the document they provided them.
STEPHENS: Okay, which is generally known as hearsay, right?
HEARNE: I would not think that’s hearsay, Your Honor. That’s firsthand personal knowledge by the affiant of what she physically observed. And we included an exhibit which is a physical copy of the note that she was provided.
The two later returned to the point, after Stephens reviewed the note, and Stephens echoed Judge Diamond’s exasperation:STEPHENS: I’m still trying to understand why this isn’t hearsay.
HEARNE: Well, it’s, it, I –
STEPHENS: I absolutely understand what the affiant says she heard someone say to her. But the truth of the matter … that you’re going for was that there was an illegal act occurring. Because other than that I don’t know what its relevancy is.
HEARNE: Right. I would say, Your Honor, in terms of the hearsay point, this is a firsthand factual statement made by Ms. Connarn, and she has made that statement based on her own firsthand physical evidence and knowledge --
STEPHENS: “I heard somebody else say something.” Tell me why that’s not hearsay. Come on, now.
HEARNE: Well it’s a firsthand statement of her physical –
STEPHENS: It’s an out-of-court statement offered where the truth of the matter is asserted, right?
In a later written decision, Stephens slammed the argument as “inadmissible hearsay within hearsay.” And after the campaign appealed, a Michigan appeals court rebuked it Monday for not including required documentation.
“I regret to inform you that your submission is defective,” the court wrote said, outlining the missing attachments.Marc E. Elias @marceelias
And so, the Trump week in court begins ....
State of Michigan
Court of Appeals
Lansing Office
November 9, 2020
To: Mark F. Hearne II
[DELETE]
[DELETE]
[DELETE]
Re: Donald J. Trump for President Inc. v. Secretary of State
Court of Appeals No. 355378
Lower Court: Court of Claims
LC No. 2020-000225-MZ
Judge: Cynthia Diane Stephens
Dear Sir or Madam:
This office has received your papers in the above-captioned matter. I regret to inform you that your submission is defective because it was not accompanied by the following:
--a copy of the judgment or order appealed from under MCR 7.204(C)(1) or MCR 7.205(B)(2)
--a copy of the register of actions (lower court docket entries), MCR 7.204(C)(5) & 205(B)(2)
--a copy of the transcript or evidence that the transcript has been ordered - MCR 7.205(B)(4)
--five copies of a brief conforming to MCR 7.212(C)
Unless the above is filed within 21 days of the date of this letter, your case may be dismissed for failure to pursue the case in conformity with the rules. See MCR 7.216(A)(10). This is the only notice that will be sent to you. If you have any questions concerning this matter, please call this office.
9:45 AM, Nov 9, 2020
Another of the Trump team’s claims crumbled rather quickly in Georgia.
In Chatham County, as in Michigan, the Trump campaign cited supposed evidence that 53 late ballots may have been predated so they could be counted. Except two witnesses they called acknowledged under oath that they didn’t know whether the ballots were received after the deadline. And two others for the local board of elections testified that they were, in fact, received on time.
Judge James Bass dismissed the case in a one-sentence, eight-word ruling, saying, “I’m denying the request and dismissing the petition” and abruptly adjourned the hearing. He then elaborated in a written opinion, saying that “the Court finds that there is no evidence that the ballots referenced in the petition were received after 7:00 p.m. on election day, thereby making those ballots invalid. Additionally, there is no evidence that the Chatham County Board of Elections or the Chatham County Board of Registrars has failed to comply with the law.”
The common thread running through all of these is that Trump’s lawyers are regularly offering a significantly more watered-down version of Trump’s claims about rampant voter fraud — because they, unlike Trump, have to substantiate their claims. And as these exchanges show, it’s a rather thankless task that can quickly land them on a judge’s bad side.
-- Trump lawyers suffer embarrassing rebukes from judges over voter fraud claims, by Aaron Blake, November 11, 2020 at 9:53 a.m. MST
[Maria] Yep!
[Trump] Maybe Facebook. But it's a situation, the likes of which -- we don't have freedom of the press in this country! We have suppression by the press. They suppress. You know, you can't have a scandal if nobody reports about it. This is the greatest fraud in the history of our country from an electoral standpoint. And I guess you could build it up bigger than an electoral standpoint. What's bigger from an electoral standpoint? What's bigger than this? This is the essence of our country! This is the whole ballgame. And they cheated!
Joe Biden did not get 80 million votes! Now we were planning -- I got 63 million votes four years ago and won, quite handily in the electoral college. Won quite handily! We did very well! I got 63. We were hoping to get 69 or so, and we felt that was a path to an easy victory. I got 74 million votes, the largest in the history of a sitting president.
[Maria] Yes.
[Trump] So many millions more than we were even trying to get! And everybody said, "This is over!"
I'm telling you, at 10:00, everybody thought it was over.
[Maria] Yeah.
[Trump] And then the phony mail-in started coming in, Maria. I got 74 million votes. It was over! And then mail-in started to happen, glitches started to happen. This election was rigged! This election is a total fraud!
[Maria] Mr. President, these are obviously very serious charges, and I want to walk through them and ask you how you will prove this in the courts, because as you know, what I've been saying on the air is that, "Elections are the reason that our young men and women go on battlefields across the world and in some cases lose their lives, because they believe that their vote -- my vote -- matters just as much as your vote." And if that is not true, this is a very serious turning point for America. SO THIS IS NO LONGER ABOUT YOU, PRESIDENT TRUMP; THIS IS ABOUT AMERICA! And many people agree with you. According to Reuters, 68% of Republicans, and 28% of all Americans -- that includes Democrats -- believe there was fraud in this election. So let's go through some of the states, six states [AZ, GA, MI, NV, PA, WI] that your team is challenging. What specific strategy does your legal team take going forward? Let's start with Pennsylvania. I know that you said you have a pile of affidavits. That's part of the evidence. What other evidence can you talk about that will enable you to prove this in court in the coming weeks, Sir?
[Trump] Well, we’re trying to put the evidence in, and the judges won’t allow us to do it. We are trying – we have so much evidence. You probably saw Wednesday, last week we had a hearing in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. It was an incredible hearing. Unbelievable witnesses! Highly respected people that were truly aggrieved. One woman came in and she wanted to vote, and they said, “No, I’m sorry, you can’t vote; you’ve already voted. Your ballot’s in.” She said, “No, no, I want to vote on November 3rd; I’ve been waiting so long to vote. I’m so proud, I want to vote.” They said, “Your ballot’s in; I’m sorry.” And that was the story. And she was aggrieved. And you have many people like that -- many, many people like that -- at a level that nobody would even believe. And that’s where it is, Maria. By the way, that’s one story out of so many different stories. You know, the poll watchers – this is true of all of the states just about that you’re talking about. I think all of them. They weren’t allowed to have poll watchers. The Democrats and Thugs, Thugs! I’m not talking about saying, “Could you please move over?” They threw them out of the counting rooms. They weren’t allowed to be in. They threw them outside in many cases. You heard the story, where the people they went out and sent for binoculars, because they wouldn’t allow them to watch. And during that period of time, a lot of bad things happened.
Then they closed – as you know – they closed up the voting! And then unexpectedly, they closed up all of the counting. Unexpectedly, new ballots came in! There were all new numbers being added. We have pictures, and we have evidence, of new ballots being brought into counting rooms. Maria, there has never been anything like this in history! And it all started with the mail-in, but it also goes to Dominion; it goes to a lot of things. But the mail-in, millions and millions of ballots being shipped all over, and ballots, as you know, there were a lot of ballots where it was just Biden on top. They didn’t do anything else, because they were in a rush.
And from what everybody is saying, and from what – I don’t think we even have to prove this – they say that I was doing so much better than they thought that they panicked, and they started just doing ballot after ballot very quickly, and just checking the Biden name on top. You see, they have all of these ballots with just one name checked. People don’t vote that way! People don’t vote that way! They want to vote against taxes, and they want to vote for judges, and they want to vote for a lot of other things you have on a ballot, you know, different races, including Congress, and they were just checked on top. Tremendous numbers of ballots like that. And that was done for the sake of speed.
We have stories that are unbelievable! But we’re not allowed to put in our proof! They say, “You don’t have standing.” I said, “I’d like to file” – to the lawyers – “I’d like to file one nice, big, beautiful lawsuit, talking about this and many other things, with tremendous proof!” We have affidavits. We have hundreds and hundreds of affidavits, like the people you saw the other day in Pennsylvania, willing to sign under penalty of perjury, you go to jail. Willing to sign. Unlike Comey who didn’t go to jail for lying, by the way, and McCabe who didn’t go to jail for lying, which is an amazing thing to me, and we may as well bring it up. But under perjury, you go to jail. We have hundreds, getting to be thousands – they’re coming in all the time – and these are respected people. These are people that are putting their lives at risk. And they don’t want to take the affidavits. And then they say we don’t have proof.
A Trump campaign attorney conceded in court on Thursday morning that he tried to enter hundreds of dodgy form-filed affidavits into evidence, even though their own investigation found that a subset of the sworn statements that they received were filled with lies and “spam.”
“This is concerning,” Judge Daniel Kiley, from Arizona’s Maricopa County, remarked with some understatement.
“How is that a reliable process of gathering evidence?” the judge asked, later blocking admission of the so-called evidence.
Put on the spot by the judge was the Trump campaign’s lawyer Kory Langhofer, who explained the automated process that reflected their post-election evidence hunt. It included an online form whose reliability Langhofer claimed was boosted by the fact that it included a CAPTCHA, which weeded out the bots. The attorneys then visited the complainants’ homes. The Trump campaign said it excluded the submissions of those who swore to lies, but they included the ones they could not prove were lying into evidence.
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Judge Kiley replied that this did not show the remaining affidavits are trustworthy.
“That just shows you cannot disprove what’s asserted,” Kiley noted.
Shortly after, Langhofer went sharply off-message with Trump representatives telling any media outlet that would listen about their vast voter-fraud conspiracy theory.
“This is not a fraud case,” Langhofer said, casting the lawsuit instead as allegations of flaws within the voting system. “It is not a stealing-the-election case.”
That marked the second time in as many days that attorneys for the Trump campaign disavowed in court what the president and his loyalists alleged in print, tweets and on the public airwaves. On Wednesday, it was the campaign’s Porter Wright attorney Jonathan Goldstein who refused to allege fraud when pressed by a Pennsylvania judge.
“Your honor, accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step,” Goldstein said in Montgomery County Court of Common Pleas. “And it is rare that I call somebody a liar, and I am not calling the Board of the DNC or anybody else involved in this a liar. Everybody is coming to this with good faith.”
Over in Arizona the next day, a Maricopa lawyer played on a Trump slogan to discredit the president’s conspiracy theories. What happened in Arizona was a success story, the attorney said: “Made Maricopa County Elections Great Again.”
The Trump campaign’s admission came toward the beginning of a daylong evidentiary hearing in a case that began as the so-called “Sharpiegate” lawsuit, the outlandish speculation that election workers handed markers to Trump voters to invalidate their votes on Election Day. The hearing is expected to last for five hours.
Due to technical errors with the court’s public access phone line, proceedings went into recess for a few hours before reconvening at 12:30 p.m. Mountain Time. The judge attributed the problem’s with the system to an “external” influence, before witness testimony resumed with Maricopa County’s Director of Election Day and Emergency Voting Scott Jarrett.
Splashing more cold water on the “Sharpiegate” brouhaha, Jarrett explained that markers bleeding through a ballot did not lead to overvotes, the term for when a voter casts a ballot for more than the maximum allowable number of candidates. Jarret testified that this happened in the 2020 election mostly with 19 candidates for judges, not presidential candidates, and Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich (R) found no evidence of voter disenfranchisement.
Jarrett testified that Arizona reported a grand total of 191 overvotes, far short of President-elect Joe Biden’s commanding 10,000-plus vote lead.
After an evidentiary shellacking on the issue, even Langhofer abandoned the Sharpie issue. He objected to cross-examination of witnesses about the issue on grounds of relevance, saying that issue would not figure during his closing arguments. Judge Kiley overruled that objection: The questions were relevant because the witnesses spoke about the issue in their affidavits, and the Trump campaign detailed it in their lawsuit.
The Trump campaign’s parade of witnesses hardly bolstered their case.
When pressed by the Arizona Democratic Party’s counsel Daniel Arellano, each of the witnesses in turn conceded they did not know whether their vote was counted.
“Do you have any basis to believe your vote wasn’t counted?” Arellano asked voter Mia Barcello.
“Uh, I’m not sure,” Barcello replied with a laugh.
When pressed about it further, Barcello replied: “No.”
Ms. Barcello had plenty of company, with another witness responding “I couldn’t say” to the same inquiry and another replying “That’s correct” when asked if he did not know one way or another whether his vote was counted, a matter that could have been quickly settled by consulting the public record.
Not even the Trump campaign’s Arizona State elections day operations director Gina Swoboda believed otherwise—and admitted so under oath.
“I don’t know whether they were counted or not,” Swoboda said, adding that she could speak to voters’ “beliefs” but otherwise had “no way of knowing” whether or not that was true.
Testimony by the Trump campaign’s expert witness took a turn to the absurd when Zack Alcyone, whose business bio boasts of his experience in “ballot access calculations,” conceded that he is the business partner of Langhofer, the lawyer who argued the president’s case all day. The website of the Phoenix-based software company Signafide lists them as co-founders.
Sarah Gonski, another lawyer for the Arizona Democratic Party, marveled at the changing theories advanced by the Republicans.
“Your honor, it’s not exactly clear what they’re asking for because it’s been a moving target,” Gonski noted, pointing theories about Sharpies, overvotes and a green button.
The voice of Maricopa County’s lawyer Thomas Liddy swelled with indignation as he reflected upon how Arizona Republicans’ claim of “Stop the steal!” whittled down to small-bore complaints about less than 200 ballots that ultimately got counted.
“Words matter,” Liddy noted.
“The ballots are as the ballots are, voted by the voters,” he said later, adding that changing the process at this late stage would amount to “overriding voters’ intent.”
Some six hours later, with passions riding high and an anxious nation awaiting a decision, Judge Kiley adjourned the proceedings and took the matter “under advisement.” He did not commit to a date to deliver a written ruling.
-- Trump Campaign Lawyer Admits to Judge: Our Search for Evidence of Fraud Produced Obvious Lies and ‘Spam’, by Adam Klasfeld, Nov 12th, 2020
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7. I talked with several of these 'independent' lawyers/law students at length in casual, friendly conversation and, based upon their answers to basic questions about the news, it was evident that EVERY single one of the lawyers/law students that I talked to was ideologically far-left, supporting things like CHAS/CHOP in Seattle and condoning the crime skyrocketing around the country or wanting to work in Brooklyn because they support 'progressive' changes to law to 'not prosecute rioters,' etc. Yet, they all claimed to be independent. Anyway, every time a GOP staffer was removed from the room, most of the entire room would erupt in cheers and laughter and oftentimes derogatory insults as GOP Challengers were walked out by police. (State of Michigan, County of Wayne)...
11. Throughout the day I witnessed a pattern of intimidation, secrecy, and hostility by the poll workers. Poll workers would cheer, jeer and clap when poll challengers were escorted out of the TCF Center. There seemed to be collaboration between the democratic poll challengers and the City of Detroit poll workers. (Twitter)...
14. Around 4:30 p.m. chanting from outside the locked doors, and pounding on the glass erupted. At which point one of the workers I had been watching all day said in my direction "They acting like kindergarteners, I hope the police come and shoot them, like you do to us". I asked her if she was threatening violence towards me, and she mumbled something under her breath that sounded like you heard me, her coworkers started saying I was bothering them all day. Another staffer took pictures of me and literally ran away. A supervisor and a GOP attorney approached, the supervisor asked if I had witnesses, I replied everyone she was sitting with, and they sure aren't going to back me up. The supervisor said without witnesses he could not do anything. She was at ICC 2, was African American, heavy set with a white blouse ...
8. Some of the issues I witnessed in the scanning process:
• If a scanner jammed, it looked like entire batches were placed back into the machine and rescanned.
• Ballot boxes were unlocked, and unattended.
• The computers were connected to the internet and the poll workers wouldn’t let us check.
• Several ballot boxes had yellow circle stickers on them that looked similar to the yellow stickers Democratic staffers had on. When I asked the supervisor, his response was: “it’s just random, like I am bald and you have hair”
• Unidentified staff would approach with ballots to be scanned and walk away with 2 copies of a ballot.
• Poll workers would not share their names with us.
• Poll workers were allowed to wear Biden/BLM attire....
18. On numerous occasions, I was told I could only stand at the screen while democrat observers were permitted to move freely around the table.
19. When I asked a question about why a ballot was being placed in a particular box I was told I was not allowed to talk to the poll worker and did not receive an answer.
20. Democrat volunteers were verbally aggressive with me.
21. I was accused by a democrat volunteer of being part of a "cult" for my support of Trump....
20. I observed boxes with ballots in them loaded up to leave the TCF Center that were not properly sealed. I requested them to be sealed before being taken out.
21. At approximately 5:17 am I observed trays being loaded into a truck that was pulled into the TCF Center. The truck was marked Penke Truck Rentals and had Indiana license plates. In inquired what was on the trays. I was told blank ballots. Then the truck door was closed and they left....
D) I was present when poll challengers were forcibly removed from the counting room. I recall this taking place about an hour after I was informed that President Trump requested that the counting be stopped when he learned that poll challengers were being denied entry. When these ejections took place, there was a lot of shouting of approval and applause from the poll workers and election supervisors in the room....
9. I observed a Republican military ballot transfer. Poll workers refused to allow an Election Integrity Fund (EIF) challenger and me to view this transfer. All 5 poll workers were crowded around the ballot, blocking our access and refused the challenge. One of the poll workers, very irate, summoned the police to have the EIF challenger ejected. The officer said the EIF challenger was not doing anything wrong. I took the EIF challenger's place and the poll workers deliberately blocked me from viewing. Three poll workers, shoulder to shoulder, had their hands on the ballot at all times. I finally asked supervisor Yolanda to look at the ballot and transfer, and she grudgingly showed it to me....
4. I experienced intimidation the entire time from 8:30 am to 12:00 pm, that I was on the floor attempting to observe.
5. Any time I would approach a table to observe, Democratic poll challengers would block the viewing: the Democratic challengers would try to distract us from observing the information on the monitor.
6. I did attempt to speak with other Republican poll challengers to discuss how to effectively observe, but we were told we could not converse amongst ourselves.
7. If masks of Republican poll challengers slipped off their noses, they were escorted from the premesis, but if a Democratic poll challenger's masked slipped, they were allowed to stay.
8. As I was speaking with another Republican poll challenger, a woman suddenly appeared and claimed the other Republican poll challenger was "harrassing" her. He was not, he was speaking to me. The police however came and escorted him away...
3) at approx. 1:10 p I observed a ballot being duplicated at AUCB43 & I approached the supervisor and asked if there was a republican there to witness this duplication? He said he didn't know. The inspectors continued to duplicate the ballot.
-- Trump's 234 pages of 'election fraud' affidavits REVEALED: Statements include poll watcher who says he thought military wouldn't vote Biden and that 'independent' watchers were liberals 'because they wanted to work in Brooklyn', by Geoff Earle, Deputy U.S. Political Editor for DailyMail.com, PUBLISHED: 14:20 EST, 11 November 2020 | UPDATED: 10:43 EST, 12 November 2020
I wanted to file one suit, “Donald J. Trump, President of the United States against, you know,” and put everything in one simple suit, and they say, “Sir, you do not have standing.” I say, “I don’t have standing? You mean, as President of the United States, I don’t have standing? What kind of a court system is this?”
And the judges stay away from this. There is out there, Maria, because everyone knows you gave numbers. I had a number, 79% it just came out, 79% [68] of the Republicans think the election was a fraud, and I hear 35-40% of the Democrats, but they’re not going to put it down anyway, because they’re not going to say we think it. But they all – I think most of them think it was a fraud.
[Maria] There’s a lot of …
[Trump] If you look at the election you have coming up right now. You’re using the same garbage machinery: Dominion. And she’s going around – Abrams – she’s going around screaming that she’s got 800 or 850,000 ballots! What kind of an election is it? She’s going around collecting votes! What kind of an election is this! What kind of a country are we living in right now where you can vote for months ahead of schedule? And then the other thing we have, and Justice Alito, I highly respected – a great man – Justice Alito seems to have big problems. But the election ended, and they gave people an extension to vote. That’s never happened before! In other words, “The election ended, but we’ll give you more time if you want to vote.” And what I understand is they didn’t think it was good either, so they back-dated all of these ballots that came in. They had people – and we have affidavits on that too – they had people back-dating ballots. And so if somebody came in the 4th or 5th or 6th, which was illegal because the legislature didn’t approve it, which everything has to be approved by the legislature, and they had judges making deals, and they had electoral officials making deals. Like this character in Georgia who is a disaster. And the governor’s done nothing! He’s done absolutely nothing! I’m ashamed that I endorsed him!
But I look at what’s going on, it’s terrible! But what happened in this election, Maria, I can’t imagine has ever happened before. They stuffed the ballot boxes. You know, I’ve been hearing that expression for many years. You have stuffed the ballot – they stuffed the ballot boxes.
[Maria] Yeah.
[Trump] And they used COVID as a means to stuff the ballot boxes. Joe Biden did not get 16 million more votes than Barack Hussein Obama. He didn’t get it! Joe Biden did not get 14 million more votes than Hillary Clinton. And by the way, he didn’t beat Obama in the black communities. You go to some of these communities where Obama is very, very popular, and he beats them in some of these communities, but all throughout the rest of the United States in a black community, he does actually poorly. He doesn’t do very well. But he beats Obama in swing states!
Now think about that. He beat Obama in swing states! You know that didn’t happen! They stuffed the ballot boxes! Everybody knows that.
[Maria] These are some of the IMPOSSIBLE STATISTICS that we have found, and this is from The Federalist article. They call it, “BIDEN MAGIC, ” and they list a number of ways that Joe Biden MAGICALLY outperformed election norms.
5 MORE WAYS BIDEN MAGICALLY OUTPERFORMED ELECTION NORMS
• 80 MILLION VOTES, INCLUDING RECORD BLACK & HISPANIC TURNOUT FOR TRUMP
• WINNING DESPITE LOSING MOST BELLWETHER COUNTIES
• BIDEN TRAILED CLINTON EXCEPT IN A SELECT FEW CITIES
• BIDEN WON DESPITE DEMOCRAT LOSSES EVERYWHERE ELSE
• BIDEN OVERCAME TRUMP’S COMMANDING PRIMARY VOTE
They include 80 million votes, including a record Black & Hispanic turnout for you – President Trump; Winning Despite Losing most bellwether counties. Typically, when you win the bellwether counties like you did, the President wins. Biden trailed Clinton except in a select few cities; Biden won despite Democrat losses everywhere else! In the House, Kevin McCarthy is still celebrating wins in the House of Representatives. Biden also overcame your commanding primary vote. So there are certainly statistic impossibilities, and The Federalist calls it “Magic,” as you refer to. Mr. President, will you be able to prove that the computers can circumvent the controls that are in place? A lot of people say, “No, we have controls in place; there are paper ballots, the computers cannot get through the controls in place.” Can you do that?
Securing the Election
produced by Rachael Morehouse
60 Minutes
November 29, 2020
[Scott Pelley] Though the transition has begun, President Trump remains largely holed up in the White House tweeting false accusations of a rigged election from behind a crumbling wall of lawsuits. No legal challenge, no recount, no audit has changed the outcome in any state.
Mr. Trump’s claim that millions of votes were deleted, or switched, is denied by the official he chose to secure the nation’s election systems. Christopher Krebs called the 2020 vote “the most secure in American history,” which promptly got him fired. Tonight, in his first interview since he was dismissed, Krebs tells us why he believes the vote was accurate, and why saying otherwise puts the country in danger.
[Christopher Krebs] I have confidence in the security of this election because I know the work that we’ve done for four years in support of our state and local partners. I know the work that the intelligence community has done, the Department of Defense has done, that the FBI has done, that my team has done. I know that these systems are more secure. I know, based on what we have seen that any attacks on the election were not successful.
[Scott Pelley] Two years ago President Trump put Christopher Krebs in charge of the new Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency. Krebs, a lifelong Republican, was confirmed unanimously by the Senate.
His agency, known by its acronym CISA helped secure computer systems anywhere that a security breach could be catastrophic. Nuclear power plants, for example. And the election hardware in all 50 states.
[To Christopher Krebs] Why are you speaking to us?
[Christopher Krebs] I’m not a public servant anymore, but I feel that I’ve still got some public service in me. And you know, it’s hard once you take that oath to uphold and defend the Constitution from threats foreign and domestic, it’s hard to walk away from that. And if I can reinforce or confirm for one person that the vote was secure, the election was secure, then I feel like I’ve done my job.
[Scott Pelley] Krebs, who is 43, worked on cybersecurity in the Bush administration. He became director of cybersecurity policy at Microsoft, and joined the Trump Department of Homeland Security in 2017. His priority was to stop anyone from repeating Russia’s 2016 election hacking, and disinformation.
[Christopher Krebs] So we spent something on the order of 3-1/2 years of gaming out every possible scenario for how a foreign actor could interfere with an election. Countless, countless scenarios.
[Scott Pelley] So back in 2017 as you’re looking ahead to the election in 2018 and then ultimately the election in 2020, you have a to-do list, and the to-do list includes what?
[Christopher Krebs] Paper ballots. Paper ballots give you the ability to audit, to go back and check the tape and make sure you got the count right. And that’s really one of the keys to success for a secure 2020 election. 95% of the ballots cast in the 2020 election had a paper record associated with it. Compared with 2016, about 82%.
[Scott Pelley] And with a paper record, you can go back and verify what the machine is saying by physically counting the paper.
[Christopher Krebs] That gives you the ability to prove that there was no malicious algorithm or hacked software that adjusted the tally of the vote. And just look at what happened in Georgia. Georgia has machines that tabulate the vote. They then held a hand recount, and the outcome was consistent with the machine vote.
[Scott Pelley] And that tells you what?
[Christopher Krebs] That tells you that there was no manipulation of the vote on the machine count outside. And so that pretty thoroughly, in my opinion, debunks some of these sensational claims out there that I’ve called “nonsense” and “a hoax,” that there was some hacking of these election vendors and their software in their systems across the country. It’s just “nonsense.”
[Scott Pelley] Before the election, as the President called mail-in ballots a fraud, Krebs’ team released a report highlighting the safeguards built in to mail-in voting. His agency knocked down rumors and exposed an Iranian plot to intimidate voters.
On election day, Krebs assembled a team in his command center to defend the vote.
[Christopher Krebs] We had the Department of Defense Cybercommand. We had the National Security Agency. We had the FBI. We had the Secret Service. We also had representatives from The Elections Assistance Commission which is the federal independent agency that supports the actual administration of elections. We had representatives from some of the vendors, some of the election equipment vendors, and they are critical, because they are the ones out there that know what’s going on on the ground if there’s any sort of issue with some of their systems. And we had representatives from state and local governments.
[Scott Pelley] How did the day go?
[Christopher Krebs] It was quiet, and there was no indication or evidence that there was any sort of hacking, or compromise of election systems on, before, or after November 3rd.
[Scott Pelley] And yet, this was the President November 5th.
[President Trump] And this is a case where they are trying to steal an election; they are trying to rig an election.
[Scott Pelley] Nine days after election day, Mr. Trump tweeted falsely that machines from Dominion Voting Systems deleted millions of votes. Krebs couldn’t remain silent. His agency and its election security partners answered with a public statement.Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
“REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE. DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN. 941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED. STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.” @ChanelRion@OANN
This claim about election fraud is disputed.
11:34 AM, Nov. 12, 2020
[To Christopher Krebs] To quote from the November 12th statement that CISA and its partners put out: “The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, or changed votes, or was in any way compromised.”
[Christopher Krebs] Yeah, I stand by that.
[Scott Pelley] The President tweeted out after that statement, “The recent statement by Chris Krebs on the security of the 2020 election was highly inaccurate in that there were massive improprieties and fraud.” Do you remember what the President said at the end of that tweet?
[Christopher Krebs] Oh, I was terminated? Is that – yes. I recall that.
[Scott Pelley] Were you surprised?
[Christopher Krebs] I don’t know if I was necessarily surprised. It’s not how I wanted to go out. I think I – the thing that upsets me the most about that is I didn’t get a chance to say goodbye to my team. And I’d worked with them for 3-1/2 years in the trenches, building an agency, putting CISA on the national stage. And I loved that team. And I didn’t get a chance to say goodbye. So that’s what I’m most upset about.
[Scott Pelley] Since he was fired, about a dozen Republican senators have vouched for Krebs’ work.
[To Christopher Krebs] The President is essentially saying in that tweet, that you did a lousy job, that you and your team blew it, and allowed massive fraud all across the country.
[Christopher Krebs] We did a good job. We did it right. I would do it a thousand times over.
[Scott Pelley] Still, the President’s lawyers have filed at least a dozen suits…
[Rudy Giuliani] Wow!
and spun conjecture without evidence.
[Rudy Giuliani] And you should be more astounded by the fact that our votes are counted in Germany, and in Spain.
[To Christopher Krebs] As you watched Rudy Giuliani’s news conference at the Republican National Committee Headquarters, what were you thinking?
[Christopher Krebs] It was upsetting, because what I saw was a apparent attempt to undermine confidence in the election; to confuse people; to scare people. It’s not me. It’s not just CISA. It’s the tens of thousands of election workers out there that had been working non-stop, 18-hour days, for months, that are getting death-threats for trying to carry out one of our core, democratic institutions, an election. And that was, again, to me, a press conference that, it didn’t make sense. What it was actively doing was undermining democracy. And that’s dangerous.
[Scott Pelley] Let me ask for your reaction to some of the vote fraud that the President and his team have been alleging. “Votes tabulated in foreign countries.”
[Christopher Krebs] So, [expostulates] all votes in the United States of America are counted in the United States of America. I don’t, I don’t understand this claim; all votes in the United States of America are counted in the United States of America. Period.
[Scott Pelley] “Voting machines corrupted by mysterious actors in Venezuela.”
[Christopher Krebs] So, again, there’s no evidence that any machine that I’m aware of has been manipulated by a foreign power. Period.
[Scott Pelley] “Communist money from China and Cuba used to influence the election.”
[Christopher Krebs] Look, I think we can go on and on with all the farcical claims alleging interference in the 2020 election, but the proof is in the ballots. The recounts are consistent with the initial count, and to me that’s further evidence, that’s confirmation that the systems used in the 2020 election performed as expected, and the American people should have 100% confidence in their vote.
[Scott Pelley] In a news conference, a lawyer who was representing the President at the time, Sidney Powell, said specifically, that the Dominion Company’s voting machines,
[Sidney Powell] “It can set and run an algorithm that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump and flip them to President Biden.”
[Christopher Krebs] Votes were cast in Georgia, for instance, again, on paper. They were counted by a machine. They were subsequently recounted by hand. The outcomes of that count were consistent. If there was an algorithm that was flipping votes, or changing votes, it didn’t work! I think the more likely explanation though is that there was no algorithm, that the systems performed as intended, that the series of security controls before, during and after an election, protected those systems from any sort of misbehavior.
[Scott Pelley] Most elections are run by each state’s Secretary of State. But not one of them, Democrat or Republican, has reported ballot rigging that would change the election. Some are paying a price for integrity.
[Christopher Krebs] And it’s, in my view, a travesty what’s happening right now with all these death threats to election officials and secretaries of state. I want everybody to look at Secretary Boockvar of Pennsylvania, Secretary Benson in Michigan, Secretary Cegavske of Nevada, Secretary Hobbs in Arizona – all strong women that are standing up, that are under attack from all sides, and they are defending democracy. They are doing their jobs. Look at Secretary Raffensperger in Georgia, a lifelong Republican. He put country before party and is holding a free and fair election in that state. There are some real heroes out there. There’s some real patriots.
[Scott Pelley] At the Capitol, the stage is going up for inauguration day, January 20th. Well before that, on December 14th, the presidential electors will cast their ballots, which should settle the election. Christopher Krebs told us it’s ironic that the disruption and disinformation he feared from abroad came instead from Pennsylvania Avenue.
[To Christopher Krebs] The President says you’re dead wrong about election security, and to him you say what?
[Christopher Krebs] There’s no foreign power that is flipping votes. There’s no domestic actor flipping votes. I did it right. We did it right. This was a secure election.
And secondly, in terms of Pennsylvania, your team got a blow on Friday, an Appeals Court rejecting a request to block the certification of Pennsylvania’s election results. Your attorneys have said they will appeal to the Supreme Court. Give us your timing on that! Will you get a different outcome in the next couple of days? Will we be hearing a victory in Pennsylvania in the next couple of days?
[Trump] Okay, well let me just talk about the Federalist paper, just for a second, because you mentioned it. There are five points. And it was written brilliantly, but sarcastically. Because they were saying he must be a great campaigner because he lost here, he lost here, he lost here, and he won the election. If a President – this is over a long, many period, hundreds of years, a hundred years, or something, they went into all the elections. If you win one of the five points – I won all five – if you win one of the five points, you become President, automatically, a sitting President gets reelected. I won all five and I still lost. There’s only one reason for that: FRAUD! STUFFING THE BALLOT BOXES! All of the things they did. There’s only one reason. And everybody knows it. And your numbers are much different. I mean, this country – I cannot believe it – there’s more spirit, I see more spirit right now! This country cannot have fake elections like we have fake news, like we have all of the things happening with Big Tech. I mean, there’s a tremendous move on to repeal Section 230. Big Tech has no liability. They can do whatever they want. It’s ridiculous! But there’s a big move to do that. I don’t know if the politicians have the guts to do it, but they are hurting themselves very badly. There are so many different things.
Yeah, we’ll be appealing different cases, Maria. You know, it’s not only OUR case. Mike Kelly, great Congressman, as you know, from Pennsylvania, has a great case. He won -- well, he had a good decision, then he went a step above and they turned him down. I think that was in Pennsylvania. I think he’s got a great appeal to the United States Supreme Court. Act 77 where the legislature is supposed to approve all this stuff. And they had it approved by local officials or a judge. I think it’s a great case. But I’m sure they’ll be appealing, too. They have a fantastic case. You know, a lot of the cases that have been lost haven’t been OUR cases. They are people who are aggrieved, who went out and filed lawsuits because they saw things happening that they’ve never seen before. A poll watcher – I have a lot of respect for Ken Starr. And I watched him on your show, actually. And a poll watcher is like a sacred person in the world of politics. They watch, they watch – they call them partisan poll, because they are like a Republican poll watcher, a Democrat poll watcher. They watch the votes being counted. It is so important. It is like the most important – otherwise, you know, people will cheat, unfortunately.
So poll watchers are very important. Our poll watchers didn’t just get set back, which they did. They got thrown out of buildings in different states. AND THIS IS A WELL COORDINATED ATTACK! Because you don’t do it with everybody. Maybe it would happen in Philadelphia, but it wouldn’t happen in Detroit.
Now, Detroit and Philadelphia, Milwaukee, these are among the most dishonest political places in use. Just look at the past history. I’m not being rude to anybody. These are highly corrupt places politically. But poll watchers were walked out by thugs out of the building. And you have it all over the news. We could give you everything you need, all you have to do is local news covers it actually much differently than national news. National news doesn’t like covering anything that would be like that. They do not report the news. That’s why I call them “Fake News.” But they’ve never been fake like they are now. Now they are a disgrace. But the News is the enemy. Our newspapers, major newspapers and major networks, are truly the enemy of the people in this country. They are very dangerous. And Big Tech is making them even more dangerous. But they got rid of poll watchers!