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RED ALERT: 20k Leaked Epstein Emails EXPOSE Trump's COVER-UP for Israel
Danny Haiphong
Nov 13, 2025 #trump #epsteinfiles #israel

Danny Haiphong reviews the full leaked Epstein emails, over 20,000 released by the House Oversight Committee, and reviews how the most damaging of these emails have been ignored, until this video. What do these emails reveal about Trump, Epstein, Israel and the world?



Transcript

Breaking news everybody. The Epstein
emails have just leaked from the House
Oversight Committee and we're going to
go through these emails together. These
are the ones that have been shared the
most by Western Mainstream media and we
are going to get into those that have
not been shared by Western Mainstream
media.

So, let's take a look at this
email here from Ghislaine Maxwell to Jeffrey
Epstein.

I want you to realize, said
Jeffrey Epstein, that the dog hasn't
barked is Trump victim. [VICTIM] Spent hours at
my house with him. He has never once
been mentioned. Police chief, etc. I'm
75% there.

So, this confirms victim
spent hours at my house with him. And
when was this email written? 2011, far
after Donald Trump had said he had cut
off Jeffrey Epstein.

Email number two, a
direct correspondence between Jeffrey
Epstein and journalist Michael Wolff. You
might remember Michael Wolff as writing
many books about Donald Trump. He says
Jeffrey Epstein to Michael Wolff.

Trump said he asked me to resign. Never a
member ever. Of course he knew about the
girls as he asked Galain to stop

.

Of course he knew about the girls. These
emails only get more damning. Email
number three between Jeffrey Epstein and
Michael Wolff. Michael Wolff said to
Jeffrey Epstein,

"I hear CNN is planning
to ask Trump tonight about his
relationship with you either on air or
in scrum afterwards."

Then Jeffrey
Epstein said,

"If we were able to craft
an answer for him, what do you think it
should be?"

Wolff responds,

"I think you
should let him hang himself. If he said
he hasn't been on the plane or at the
house, that gives you valuable PR or
political currency. You can hang him in
a way that potentially generates a
positive benefit for you. If it really
looks like you could win, you could save
him generating a debt." Of course, it is
possible that when asked, he'll say
Jeffrey is a great guy and he has got a
raw deal and is a victim of a political
correctness which is outlawed in the
Trump regime.

These are the emails that
have been showing the most from Western
mainstream media and they are damning.
They show Donald Trump had direct
contact with Jeffrey Epstein. They also
show that there were major journalists
working with Jeffrey Epstein to get dirt
on Donald Trump. But it keeps going and
going and going.

Here is another set of
emails. Okay. We already went through
one of these here. This is another one from
Michael Wolff.

There's an opportunity to
come forward this week and talk about
Trump in such a way that could garner
great sympathy and help finish him.
Interested?

This is Michael Wolff, the
so-called journalist, to Jeffrey Epstein
to finish Donald Trump. Then Jeffrey
Epstein to Sultan bins who is a UAE
business mogul.

Never heard of him.
Donald is close to no one. He talks to
many people. He tells each one something
different. Do you know him? I heard he
is so close to Trump.

That's what Sultan
bin Salam said. They were obviously
working out some kind of arrangement on
how to influence someone like Donald
Trump. That was written in 2018 when
Donald Trump was president for the first
time. But the emails just keep giving
and giving.

Here is one that shows
Donald Trump and one of the victims,
which is believed to be Virginia Giuffre,
who is now deceased. This is a
communication between the victim, who is
not named, but many believe it is Giuffre
and Epstein.

Can we have dinner at
Geneva on the 8th? She says, "I will be
there 7th or 8th of December, going back
to Kuwait on the 9th." Jeffrey Epstein
says, "At the moment, I'll be flying to
Paris on the 8th. I can leave earlier
and get to Paris by 8:30. We can meet
there. It's hard to fly out of Geneva."
Then the victim says, "Question mark
question mark." Of course. You're
welcome at my house always, says Jeffrey
Epstein. It's more private. Very well.
Just send me the address again and the
code on the door so I can get to the
second floor. Send me the day and time.
After she confirms the gate number, uh,
she says here, "I'm at the door, but I
will wait for my time. I don't want to
come early to find Trump in your house."

Written December 8th, 2017, when Donald
Trump was president. So, Donald Trump
was, according to these emails, likely
hanging out at the house of Jeffrey
Epstein while he was president of the
United States.

But this keeps going
because Jeffrey Epstein also had choice
words for Donald Trump and what he
thought about him.

You see, I know how
dirty Donald is. My guess is that non-
lawyers in non New York business people
have no idea what it means to have your
fixer flip.

And so Jeffrey Epstein here
is talking to Kathy Rummier. And who is
that? She was an adviser on the White
House council for Barack Obama and he
connected Rummier. Jeffrey Epstein did
major business in legal context which
I'll get into.

But according to Jeffrey
Epstein after Rummier asks, "Here's a
story from the New York Times I thought
you'd find interesting. The principal
case for impeachment is clear. What's
missing is the courage." And then
Epstein says, "I think he makes the
argument that it was his money, Trump's
money, making it not illegal, though he
also said he found out afterwards and
the fact according to the indictment was
build as services rendered and grossed
up. I'm sure his account was flipped."
Anyway, I did talk in detail to Star
yesterday regarding indictments, how
Trump can make a deal, special counsel,
Clinton's trash can. Yes, Star gave me
more. Yuck.

This is what they were
talking with. They're talking about
Donald Trump's impeachment proceedings,
which was happening during his first
term, and this was right in 2018. And so
Rummier, I just want to remind people
that Rummier has a long association with
Jeffrey Epstein. She was introduced by
Epstein to Microsoft's Bill Gates, the
Gates Foundation, the Edmund de
Rothschild's Bank. She also became
legal counsel at JP Morgan in 2019 from
a referral by Jeffrey Epstein right
before he was killed by the way, at first
imprisoned and then killed. And then
additionally Epstein made her an
executive of his will, which she says she
had no idea actually happened until
after he died that she was
notified.

But we can keep going with
this because it only gets worse for
Donald Trump. Here we're going to see
that Donald Trump was likely spending
Thanksgiving with Jeffrey
Epstein. And here's the email thread. Uh
this is Faith Kate to Jeffrey Epstein
fund.

Where are you? Back in New York
City. Okay. Dylan and I will always want
to see you says Faith. Where are you
having Thanksgiving? Uh he said Eva.
That means Glenn. Check out his red
hair. Berries color for holiday. He's
such a snooze. Who else is down there?
Uh David Fisizel Hansen Trump have fun.

This gets more and more damning.
We get from Trump's association to even
more associations linked to Donald Trump
and the power elite. Here is an email
between Jeffrey Epstein and Thomas
Landon. Who is Thomas Landon? A finance
reporter at New York Times.

Thomas
Landon said, "Now everyone is coming to
me thinking I have juicy info on you and
Trump because of this."

When Donald
Trump said that he had known Jeffrey for
15 years, terrific guy; he is a lot of
fun to be with. and it's said he likes
beautiful women as much as I do. and
many of them are on the younger side. No
doubt about it, Jeffrey enjoys his
social life. You may be familiar with
that quote because it has gone around
quite a bit. Jeffrey Epstein replies to
this from Thomas Landon.

Would you like
photos of Donald and girls in bikinis in
my kitchen? Landon says, Thomas Landon,
"yes." And then he writes, "Hawaiian
tropic girl Lauren Patrella. I'm a
serious man for the good of the nation.
Why not try to get some of this out
there? I would not do this my myself,"
said Thomas Landon, but would pass it on
to a political reporter. and then he
sends him a link uh saying, "My
20-year-old girlfriend in 1993, that's
two years after I gave to Donald."

These are the kind of conversations that
Jeffrey Epstein was having with the New
York Times reporter about Donald Trump.
And it reveals not only Trump's
associations, but the inner workings of
what was going on between all of these
power players. Just absolutely
incredible. Absolutely shocking. And it
keeps going.

Here's another one from
Miss Rummier. Kathy Rummier.

Doesn't look
like you're prioritizing your schedule
very effectively. You are going to
manage all of this. This is UNNG UN
General Assembly week. So the boss will
be in town. I'll be here all week. You
may get sick of me. Just sat down on the
train and can't talk freely.

This is in
2014 under Obama.

Jeffrey Epstein says,
"Girls, careful. I will renew an old
habit."

And here is the big shocker,
because Donald Trump is connected to so
many of these figures and it shows just
how much Jeffrey Epstein had on the
entirety of the power elite, the
entirety of the ruling classes.

He says
this week Peter Teals, Larry Summers,
William Burns ...

Remember William Burns, a
former CIA director under Joe Biden.
Peter Teal, Palantir,
we know who Bill Gates is. And then
others, for example, Jagglin, who is the
Council of Europe and the Nobel
Chairman, the Mongolian president,
you have major representatives from
Harvard as well as the UAE, Leon Black.
Just absolutely incredible these
connections that have been revealed from
these emails.

Many of you may know Larry
Summers as the architect, one of the
architects, working under many
administrations, including both
the Obama and Bush administrations to
essentially as a representative of
Global Finance Institute, the 2008
economic crisis. And he has been
absolutely condemned and criticized for
that. But Larry Summers had a deep
relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. And
here you see Larry Summers communicating
about Donald Trump to him.

Larry Summers
first says, "Are you plugged into the
show?" And then Jeffrey Epstein
says, "Wow, there'll be some changes
this week." Funny because Claus
Castawitz is getting turned down
repeatedly by firms unwilling to
represent Donald Trump.

This is 2017
again. Donald Trump was coming under
legal pressure, especially under Russiagate
and all kinds of scandals that were
being foisted upon him. And they are
discussing this and saying there are
many firms unwilling to represent Donald
Trump.

Larry Summers says more would
represent Donald if Kausitz was out of
the picture. Not surprising. Very hard
to be a law firm representing the
president of the United States and know
what to do when the president lies to
you. My world thinks poorly of Gorick
for representing Jared. Probably Jared
Kushner. How guilty is Donald? Of
crudity. Surely of gross ignorance.
Surely of being utterly without
intellect temperament for the job.
Surely of being over the line on family
profiting very likely of gross disregard
for appearances almost surely of
Russians having financial leverage less
clear of Russians helping in an election
complicity of his campaign plausible but
not certain strikes me if you work for
Donald you don't freelance so he is
guilty of whatever his campaign did do
you agree with the foregoing your world
does not understand ...

This is Jeffrey
Epstein, this is really the big
enchilada here,

Your world does not
understand how dumb He really is.
Jeffrey Epstein to Larry Summers. He
will blame everyone around him for bad
results. Gary Con is in a good place as
is Jared Kushner. All others not long
for this world. Interesting argument
using WhatsApp as obstruction of
justice. Delete after sending.

So again, this is incredible because all of this
demonstrates how deeply connected all of
these elites were to Donald Trump.
Donald Trump as being connected to all
these elites and Jeffrey Epstein being
almost an intermediary to all of this,
it's incredible and it
keeps going.

It keeps going. You have
Steve Bannon. Remember Steve Bannon? He
was and still is a major figure
in MAGA. He is essentially Donald
Trump's one of his brainchildren. He is
considered by a lot of people within
MAGA to be very legitimate in the sense
that he has the kind of ideological fire
that lit the Trump MAGA flame. But here
is Steve Bannon in communication with
Jeffrey Epstein.

As he's talking about
Donald Trump's issues, Steve
Bannon says to Jeffrey Epstein, "Can't
believe nobody is making you the
connective tissue." Epstein says,
"Recall Prince Andrews accuser came out
of Mara Lago." Uh, which is Virginia
Guay by the way. Prince Andrews and
Trump today too funny.

That again is
Jeffrey Epstein making light of all of
the scandals from Donald Trump. And mind
you, this is 2019. Okay, so this is very
close to when the issue was about to
take fire. I mean, we're talking about a
lot of emails that were directly
occurring during Donald Trump's
presidency, which is going to be a major
deal as this development moves forward.

So, here is Mr. Landon again, the
journalist from the finance journalist
who was very close to Jeffrey Epstein
saying he is digging around again to
Jeffrey Epstein.

Not clear if it's
another book extended paperback version.
He was asking me all sorts of questions
about why you hired Ken Star. I told him
I had no idea. I think he's doing some
Trump related diggy digging too. Anyway,
for what it's worth

And this is from
another call from Connelly. So Connelly
actually was somebody who wrote many
books about uh Jeffrey Epstein and he
died actually in 2022.

And now we're
going to get into the financial
corruption. And we're going to get into
even how deeply this goes in terms of
foreign policy influence of Jeffrey
Epstein. It's absolutely incredible. It
gets really really bad when we think
about just how much these guys were
influencing, Jeffrey Epstein was
influencing things when it comes to US
policy.

So here is one about Russia.
Okay.

Jeffrey Epstein is in
communication with Jaglin Thorbond
who was on that email earlier
talking about he was a part of the
European Council and a leader in the
European Council, and he says to him I
think he might suggest to Putin that
Lavrov can get insight talking to me.
Vitali Churchkin used to but he died and
then thor Thorbon Jaglin wrote I'll meet
Lavrov's assistant on Monday and we'll
suggest thank you for a lovely evening.
I'll come to the UN high level next
week. Church was great says Epstein. He
understood Trump for after our
conversations. It's not complex. He must
be seen to get something. It's that
simple. It's that simple.

I mean this is
how absolutely unhinged all of this is.
Okay, because we're talking about
emails that reveal not only that Donald
Trump was involved, but that there was a
constant web of communication between
all of these elites around Trump, with
Trump trying to garner influence.

And it gets worse, because I want to show you
actually now Tom Barrack. This is one of
the most damning emails because Tom
Barrack, you know him as the current US
envoy to Lebanon. Now, this was dated
2016.

Tom Barack says to him, "Send
photos of you and the child. You and
child make me smile."

Now, Tom Barrack
has deep ties to the UAE, the mogul, the
the corporations,
Saudi Arabia, Israel. Of course, he's
very deeply connected to Israel. Send
photos of you
and child. Make me smile. It's damning.

We know about Jeffrey Epstein's based on
the just a straightup criminal case
against him, what was going on his
island, what was taking place there.
We know that Donald Trump was not only
deeply in contact with him, but
everything that he was saying was a lie,
right? It was a lie. He was
saying so much that was just utterly a
lie about his relationship with Epstein.

[b]I want to show
you this timeline because I think it's
important in these newly released
emails. All of these emails that I just
showed you completely contradict Trump's
long-standing claim that he cut Epstein
off in 2004- 2005 with no contact
afterward. Now it looks like Trump
claims he banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago in
2006. [u]But from 2011 to 2015, Epstein
discusses Trump repeatedly in emails.
Epstein emails in 2016 revealed emails
from Trump Tower after his win. A 2017
victim writes, "I don't want to come
early and find Trump in your house."
2019, Epstein still referencing Trump
and Mar-a-Lago.

There is major panic in
the White House about all of this.
Trump personally
called Representative Lauren Boebert
urging her to withdraw support for the
bill releasing Epstein files. Now
there's a petition in the House that is
most likely going to be voted on very
soon to release the Epstein files in
totality. Must be remembered that these
are not the actual files that the DOJ
has at their disposal. These are from
Jeffrey Epstein's estate, which were
subpoenaed by the House Democrats. And
it's no wonder that I played you earlier
the emails that were shared the most
by the New York Times and other
mainstream media publications attached
to the Democrats and I showed you others
showing Larry Summers, Bill Gates, Peter
Teal, the entire network, which also
includes the Clintons, let's be honest.

Now, I'm going to share this with all of
you because I think it's very important.
CNN is reporting that Trump held a
meeting in the situation room. Yes, the
situation room with Pam Bondi, Todd
Blanche, Kash Patel, the FBI director,
and Lauren Boebert,
that's where she was summoned, too, over
the House effort to force the release of
the DOJ Epstein files. White House
lawyers are reportedly worried. Lauren
Boebert and Nancy Mace
recorded their phone calls with Trump
where he begged, bribed, threatened, and
cried for them to reverse their votes on
releasing the Epstein files.

This is very bad for Donald Trump. This
is very bad for the political
class as a whole. Because what it
demonstrates is that we are now in a
moment where we can ask what exactly was
going on here. Who benefits from
all of this? When we look at what has
been said about Jeffrey Epstein, and the
links that he had not just to the most
powerful people in the world, but to
Israeli intelligence, right? -- allegedly
he has had incredible ties with Ehud
Barak and major Israeli figures,
those connected deeply to the Israeli
establishment. It's been reported on by
Drop Site News because an Israeli
spy, according to these emails, stayed
for weeks at a time with Jeffrey Epstein
in Manhattan. Leaked emails show Epstein
worked on a wire transfer to Ehud
Barak's top aid, Yoni Koren, who
regularly stayed at his apartment. Mind
you, this was the senior aid to
Israeli Minister of Defense Ehud Barak
at the time. And here's the email.

Okay,
Jeffrey Epstein, from Lesie Grath.

A reminder, Yoni Koren to depart today to
you.

Okay, so on all three trips, Koren
appeared to be conducting official or
unofficial business with the two. A
Times of Israel article from late
January 2013, a few weeks before Koren's
first documented stay identifies him as
still actively serving as bureau chief
for the Israeli Defense Ministry that
month. Dropsite compiled evidence of
these stays between Koren and Epstein
from schedules released by the House
Oversight Committee and Barak's own
hacked emails originally released by the
Hondala hack team, and later shared by
Distributed denial of secrets. He made
his career, Yoni Koren, working in covert
operations alongside the Mossad, and
remained a lieutenant colonel to reserve
duty after he officially left the
intelligence director. He stayed in
Epstein's apartment for two weeks in
October 2014, a third time 10 more days
in 2015 and February 2013 while working
with Barak. So these ties are known.

Now we don't know officially what the
influence is. We can only speculate
about what it all means, what it signifies.
Well, if we look at developments, how they've
transpired, Donald Trump comes in as
the peace president. But who has he
consistently bowed to? Israel. What is
all US presidents, all the even the most
powerful elites, who have they bowed to
no matter what? Israel. This isn't to
say that the interests of the United
States power elites, these major moguls
like Peter Teal, this isn't to say
Donald Trump or the Clintons that they
don't have deep connections to Israel, or
an alignment in terms of their own
interests and objectives. But what it
does say is that there possibly and may
be a huge operation underway to
discipline and ensure that these major
power players stick to the script, and
stick to the agenda at hand. So, when we
hear that Donald Trump is seeking to
pardon Benjamin Netanyahu for all of his
corruption, when we hear that the US is
going to put a military base near Gaza,
when we see Donald Trump say that he had
deep connections to what Israel did in
its strikes and attacks after he said he
had none at all, we have to believe that
this kind of operation that is at play,
that we still need to know so much more
about, might have had something to do
with it.

It's an absolutely
incredible development that we have to
keep following because many will ask,
"Was Epstein a Mossad intelligence asset? Was he working for
Israel?" I mean it would all add up when
we look at the evidence here, when we
know that Epstein was so connected to
the Wexners of the world, to the Ehud
Baraks of the world, was literally
housing Israeli intelligence assets in
his house, and Donald Trump as US
president was in deep contact with
Jeffrey Epstein, and in fact was shown by
Jeffrey Epstein's own words
trading girls and women.

And this gets
into a bigger question of how deeply
involved was Donald Trump in the
activities on the island, and why were
these activities happening on the island,
this absolutely horrific, disgusting,
and despicable acts, these
crimes against humanity that were happening on this
island? Why were they all congregating,
these elites on this island for this to
be done? For them to engage in this?
Many are saying it could be a honeypot
trap. It could be a trap to gain
information from them, to blackmail
them. This is what people are asking, and
it begs the question, what influence
does this have on real policy when we
see the United States behave in the way
it does?

You should all let me know in
the comments. And then be sure to tune
in to my conversation with Professor
Jang Suin who will be on my show
tomorrow, November 14th. We will talk
about more the significance of this, how
power actually work, how does evil like
this triumph, and what does it mean for
these secrets to be revealed? What does
it tell us about how US foreign policy,
how the US empire works, its
relationship to Israel, what the true
nature of it is, and how we can truly
understand the absolute horrors that
these people commit from the perspective
of this absolutely bombshell operation
that is now being leaked more and more
and more.

More is going to come out on
this everybody because the house is on
this. Margie Taylor Greene is on this.
There are major figures who want to see
more come out. But we have to look at it
also with a critical eye because
partisanship is indeed something that
infects the US political scene and
there will be of course jockeying to try
and make this about political
parties, the Democrats. You already see
Donald Trump saying it's all a
Democratic party hoax. But even on the
Democratic Party side, we'll have to see
how much they're willing to reveal, the
entire Congress is willing to reveal,
given that I'm sure there are more
people who are going to be exposed by
this, not just the Clintons and not just
the Trumps.

So, here's a good takeaway.
Uh the Excine document dump was that
Jeffrey Epstein in 2018 2019 was
increasingly telling people he had dirt
on Trump regarding this ring. to protect
Trump's re-election campaign. Trump
charged Epstein in July 2019 and then
Epstein committed suicide.

You know what the
questions are all there but the proof
the evidence from all these emails is
also all there and now the question is
what does it all mean? Professor Jang Su
Chin and I are going to talk about this.

We're going to go even deeper into this
tomorrow. So make sure you tune into the
stream. Give me a comment below. Let me
know what you all think about all of
this. Uh what does it mean? How how does
this influence the way the US empire
actually works? What does it tell us
about the US empire? Until then, I will
see you at the stream. Hit the like
button as you go.

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We now know why Trump’s DOJ prosecuted Epstein in 2019—and why he died in Trump’s custody
Dean Obeidallah
Nov 13, 2025
https://deanobeidallah.substack.com/p/w ... prosecuted

Librarians comment: I believe the reason why Epstein was sending gossip about Trump everywhere he could was because Epstein himself was terrified that Trump would win the presidency and take him down. It was quite a dilemma for both of them. A race against power to settle old vendettas.

https://x.com/DeanObeidallah/status/1988998721602728406

(((DeanObeidallah)))
@DeanObeidallah
Nov 12
My takeaway from Epstein document dump was that Jeffrey Epstein in 2018/early 2019 was increasingly telling people he had dirt on Trump regarding child sex ring. To protect Trump's re-election campaign, Trump's DOJ charged Epstein in July 2019. Then Epstein committed "suicide."

The new Epstein document dump tell us many things. But my takeaway is this: Jeffrey Epstein in 2018/early 2019 was increasingly telling people he knew how “dirty Donald” was, that Trump “knew about the girls” and that “I am the one able to take him down.” That means Epstein poised a huge problem to Trump’s 2020 re-election—and more.

To protect Trump, his DOJ suddenly charged Epstein in July 2019. They then denied Epstein bail—forcing him to remain in the custody of the Trump regime. And just a few weeks later, Epstein conveniently committed “suicide.” Trump’s Epstein problem—at least for the 2020 campaign—was over.

Now I will concede there is a level of speculation to this theory. That is why I’m not writing it as a statement of fact but rather one of opinion. But if you see the facts and timeline, it’s clear a full investigation needs to be conducted—either now by a Democratic state Attorney General or by House Democrats if they win the 2026 midterm.

Let’s look at the emails released Wednesday where Epstein was telling people that Trump knew exactly what he and his co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell were doing with their child sex ring.

Going back to 2011—well before Trump was running for President—Epstein had an email exchange with Maxwell where he casually shared that Trump knew about the sex ring but for some reason his name wasn’t mentioned nor was Trump commenting on the scandal. That is when Epstein wrote to Maxwell: “I want you to realize that that dog that hasn’t barked is Trump.. [VICTIM] spent hours at my house with him”. Epstein goes on to write that Trump “has never once been mentioned”, including by a “police chief”. Maxwell responded: “I have been thinking about that...”

After that email was released on Wednesday, Trump’s White House said the “victim” referred to was Virginia Giuffre—believing that helped Trump because in the past Giuffre said Trump never did anything improper to her.

But in reality, this confirmed that Giuffre—who had been a 16-year-old employee at Trump’s spa when she was recruited in 2000 by Maxwell for Epstein—was only a teenager when she was in Epstein’s house. (She broke from Epstein in 2002.) Yet Trump was not troubled seeing this teenage girl hanging around with Epstein who was then in his mid-40’s. It also placed Trump in Epstein’s house. (Keep in mind in Maxwell’s 2021 criminal’s trial, a victim testified that when she was just 14 years of age, Epstein brought her to Mar-a-Lago to meet Trump. Of course, Trump knew what was happening!)

This White House admission gives great credibility to what Epstein wrote in 2018 and 2019 about Trump—which gives us motive for why Trump’s DOJ unexpectedly prosecuted Epstein in 2019.

March 2018: Epstein emails then New York Times reporter Landon Thomas Jr. telling him that Trump was “Evil beyond belief.” Epstein added about Trump, he is “Mad, and most thought I was speaking metaphorically. It’s obvious he could crack.”

FACTUAL ALLEGATIONS

5. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges that the Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, did willfully and with extreme malice violate her Civil Rights under 18 U.S.C ; 2241 by sexually and physically abusing Plaintiff Johnson by forcing her to engage in various perverted and depraved sex acts by threatening physical harm to Plaintiff Johnson and also her family.

6. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges that the Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, also did willfully and with extreme malice violate her Civil Rights under 42 U.S.C.; 1985 by conspiring to deny Plaintiff Johnson her Civil Rights by making her their sex slave.

7. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges she was subject to extreme sexual and physical abuse by the Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, including forcible rape during a four month time span covering the months of June-September 1994 when Plaintiff Johnson was still only a minor of age 13.

8. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges she was enticed by promises of money and a modeling career to attend a series of underage sex parties held at the New York City residence of Defendant Jeffrey E. Epstein and attended by Defendant Donald J. Trump.

9. On the first occasion involving the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was forced to manually stimulate Defendant Trump with the use of her hand upon Defendant Trump's erect penis until he reached sexual orgasm.

10. On the second occasion involving the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was forced to orally copulate Defendant Trump by placing her mouth upon Defendant Trump's erect penis until he reached sexual orgasm.

11. On the third occasion involving the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson was forced to engage in an unnatural lesbian sex act with her fellow minor and sex slave, Maria Doe age 12, for the sexual enjoyment of Defendant Trump. After this sex act, both minors were forced to orally copulate Defendant Trump by placing their mouths simultaneously on his erect penis until he achieved sexual orgasm. After zipping up his pants, Defendant Trump physically pushed both minors away while angrily berating them for the "poor" quality of their sexual performance.

12. On the fourth and final sexual encounter with the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was tied to a bed by Defendant Trump who then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff Johnson. During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff Johnson loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to "please wear a condom". Defendant Trump responded by violently striking Plaintiff Johnson in the face with his open hand and screaming that "he would do whatever he wanted" as he refused to wear protection. After achieving sexual orgasm, the Defendant, Donald J. Trump put his suit back on and when the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, in tears asked Defendant Trump what would happen if he had impregnated her, Defendant Trump grabbed his wallet and threw some money at her and screamed that she should use the money "to get a fucking abortion".

13. On the first occasion involving the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was forced to disrobe into her bra and panties and to give a full body massage to Defendant Epstein while he was completely naked. During the massage, Defendant Epstein physically forced Plaintiff Johnson to touch his erect penis with her bare hands and to clean up his ejaculated semen after he achieved sexual orgasm.

14. On the second occasion involving the Defendant, Jeffrey Epstein, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson was again forced to disrobe into her bra and panties while giving Defendant Epstein a full body massage while he was completely naked. The Defendant, Donald J. Trump, was also present as he was getting his own massage from another minor, Jane Doe, age 13. Defendant Epstein forced Plaintiff Johnson to touch his erect penis by physically placing her bare hands upon his sex organ and again forced Plaintiff Johnson to clean up his ejaculated semen after he achieved sexual orgasm.

5. Shortly after this sexual assault by the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, on the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, Plaintiff Johnson was still present while the two Defendants were arguing over who would be the one to take Plaintiff Johnson's virginity. The Defendant, Donald J. Trump, was clearly heard referring to Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, as a "Jew Bastard" as he yelled at Defendant Epstein, that clearly, he, Defendant Trump, should be the lucky one to "pop the cherry" of Plaintiff Johnson.

16. The third and final sexual assault by the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, on the Plaintiff, Kati Johnson, took place after Plaintiff Johnson had been brutally and savagely raped by Defendant Trump. While receiving another full body massage from Plaintiff Johnson, while in the nude, Defendant Epstein became so enraged after finding out that Defendant Trump had been the one to take Plaintiff Johnson's virginity, that Defendant Epstein also violently raped Plaintiff Johnson. After forcing Plaintiff Johnson to disrobe into her bra and panties, while receiving a massage from the Plaintiff, Defendant Epstein attempted to enter Plaintiff Johnson's anal cavity with his erect penis while trying to restrain her. Plaintiff Johnson attempted to push Defendant Epstein away, at which time Defendant Epstein attempted to enter Plaintiff Johnson's vagina with his erect penis. This attempt to brutally sodomize and rape Plaintiff Johnson by Defendant Epstein was finally repelled by Plaintiff Johnson but not before Defendant Epstein was able to achieve sexual orgasm. After perversely sodomizing and raping the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, attempted to strike her about the head with his closed fists while he angrily screamed at Plaintiff Johnson that he, Defendant Epstein, should have been the one who "took her cherry, not Mr. Trump", before she finally managed to break away from Defendant Epstein.

17. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was fully warned on more than one occasion by both Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, that were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse that she had suffered as a sex slave for Defendant Trump and Defendant Epstein, that Plaintiff Johnson and her family would be in mortal danger. Plaintiff Johnson was warned that this would mean certain death for herself and Plaintiff Johnson's family unless she remained silent forever on the exact details of the depraved and perverted sexual and physical abuse she had been forced to endure from the Defendants.

MATERIAL WITNESSES

18. Tiffany Doe, a former trusted employee of the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, has agreed to provide sworn testimony in this civil case and any other future civil or criminal proceedings, fully verifying the authenticity of the claims of the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson. Witness Tiffany Doe was employed by the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, for more than 10 years as a party planner for his underage sex parties. Despite being subject to constant terroristic threats by Defendants Epstein and Trump to never reveal the details of these underage sex parties at which scores of teenagers, and pre-teen girls were used as sex slaves by Defendant Epstein and Defendant Trump, witness Tiffany Doe refuses to be silent any longer. She has agreed to fully reveal the extent of the sexual perversion and physical cruelty that she personally witnessed at these parties by Defendants Epstein and Trump.

19. Material witness Tiffany Doe fully confirms all of Plaintiff Katie Johnson's allegations of physical and sexual abuse by Defendants Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein. Tiffany Doe was physically present at each of the four occasions of sexual abuse by Defendant Trump upon the person of Plaintiff Johnson, as it was her job to witness all of the sexual escapades of Defendant Epstein's guests at these underage sex parties and later reveal all of the sordid details directly to Defendant Epstein. Defendant Epstein also demanded that Tiffany Doe tell him personally everything she had overheard at these parties explaining to her that "knowledge was king" in the financial world. As a result of these underage sex parties, Defendant Epstein was able to accumulate inside business knowledge that he otherwise would never have been privy to in order to amass his huge personal fortune.

20. Material witness Tiffany Doe will testify that she was also present or had direct knowledge of each of the three instances on which Defendant Jeffrey E. Epstein physically and sexually abused the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson. Tiffany Doe will testify to the fact that the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was extremely fortunate to have survived all of the physical and sexual horrors inflicted upon her by Defendants Epstein and Trump.

-- KATIE JOHNSON, Plaintiff v. DONALD J. TRUMP and JEFFREY E. EPSTEIN, Defendant(s). COMPLAINT FOR CLAIM RELIEF DUE TO: 1. SEXUAL ABUSE UNDER THREAT OF HARM; 2. CONSPIRACY TO DEPRIVE CIVIL RIGHTS, Case Number: ED CV16-00797 DMG *(KSX), FILED: 2016 APR 26 AM 11:12

August 2018: Epstein emails Kathryn Ruemmler, a lawyer who served as White House counsel under former President Barack Obama in regards to Trump’s then fixer Michael Cohen flipping. In the email, Epstein makes a veiled threat writing, “You see…I know how dirty donald is.”

December 2018: Epstein was texting with an unidentified acquaintance, who wrote that “they’re really just trying to take down Trump and doing whatever they can to do that…!” Epstein replied to this person: “its wild because i am the one able to take him down.”

April 2019: Epstein writes to well-known author Michael Wolff: “Trump said he asked me to resign” apparently referring to his membership at the president’s Mar-a-Lago club, adding, he was “never a member ever”. Epstein then added this stunning line about Trump: “of course he knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop”.

These are just the comments in writing that were released. Who knows who else Epstein was telling at the time that he had dirt on Trump, that Trump knew all about the child sex ring and that he could bring Trump down?!

https://survivorbb.rapeutation.com/viewtopic.php?f=206&t=4640&p=42057#p42056

But we do know that it was just a few months later on July 6, 2019, that Trump’s DOJ suddenly charged Epstein with sex trafficking of minors. But what makes this timing even more curious is that the crimes alleged by the DOJ all took place per the indictment between 2002 through 2005. So why charge Epstein in July 2019 for crimes he committed more than 15 years before?! Obviously, Trump’s DOJ could’ve charged him well before the re-election campaign was ramping up. But they chose to wait. Why?!

Epstein was then held in custody of the Trump administration in a federal prison in New York City. Epstein’s lawyers quickly asked Judge Richard Berman—who was appointed by Bill Clinton—to allow Epstein to remain free on bail until his trial date. Epstein’s lawyer’s told the judge that Epstein would agree to any type of conditions to be granted bail—including house arrest, ankle bracelet, a security company preventing him from leaving and putting up as a guarantee even $100 million dollars.

But Trump’s DOJ forcefully opposed to the granting of bail---demanding Epstein remain in their custody. And that is exactly what the judge ordered on July 18, 2019.

Three weeks later on August 10, Epstein would be found dead in his cell. The official cause would be declared as suicide--but few believe that. After all, as Epstein survivor Lisa Phillips told me in an interview in September, Epstein was running a massive international sex ring that was used to blackmail powerful people. As she stated bluntly, Epstein “told me he did this to have things on people--so the young girls were there to serve a purpose, a grander, bigger purpose, darker purpose.”

There is no doubt that Trump views what Epstein knows—and what is contained in the Epstein files—as a threat. It’s why in July, Trump’s DOJ tried to stonewall the nation by releasing zero documents from the Epstein files and telling the public, “It is the determination of the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation that no further disclosure would be appropriate or warranted.”

Trump has been desperate ever since to prevent the disclosure of these files. In fact, we learned on Wednesday, that Trump officials summoned GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert to the White House to pressure her to withdraw her support for the discharge petition that would trigger a vote on legislation that would compel the full release of the Epstein documents. At the meeting was AG Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel. Obviously, they were there to intimidate Boebert—but their efforts failed.

In time, we may obtain more documents and even the hard drives and CDs filled with videos and images that Trump’s DOJ confiscated from Epstein’s NY house in July 2019. Is Trump in the videos? The photos?

But the timeline of Epstein’s emails and communications with reporters, authors and others tell us that Epstein posed an existential threat to Trump’s 2020 re-election prospects—as well as potentially exposing him to criminal charges. That is when we saw Trump’s DOJ charge Epstein, deny him bail and then discover his dead body while in their custody. Obviously a far more thorough investigation needs to happen.

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Jeffrey Epstein introduced me to Trump at 14, Ghislaine Maxwell accuser says. Testifying at Maxwell’s trial in New York City, the woman, identified by the pseudonym Jane, said she met the former president in the 1990s at his Mar-a-Lago resort.
By Tom Winter and Corky Siemaszko
NBC
Dec. 1, 2021, 12:23 PM MST / Updated Dec. 1, 2021, 6:15 PM MST
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/je ... s-rcna7253

One of the four women who say they were “groomed” for sex by Ghislaine Maxwell testified Wednesday that the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein took her to meet Donald Trump when she was just 14.

Testifying at Maxwell’s trial in New York City, the woman, who is being identified by the pseudonym Jane, said on cross-examination that she met the future president in the 1990s at Mar-a-Lago, his resort in Palm Beach, Florida.

Jane didn’t allege any improper behavior by Trump and didn’t go into further detail about why she was at the resort.

“Mr. Epstein introduced you to Donald Trump, correct?” Laura Menninger, Maxwell's defense attorney, asked.

“Yes,” Jane replied.

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A courtroom sketch depicts defense lawyer Laura Menninger questioning witness "Jane" about previous inconsistencies in documents during the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell in New York City on Wednesday. Jane Rosenberg / Reuters

Jane also acknowledged that in 1998, she took part in a Miss Teen USA beauty pageant that was associated with Trump. It wasn’t immediately clear whether that was before or after the meeting at Mar-a-Lago.

Trump’s spokesman didn’t immediately reply to a request for comment about whether Trump, who once called Epstein a “terrific guy,” has any recollection of meeting Jane.

Following Epstein’s 2019 arrest, Trump told reporters that he was “not a fan” of him.

Another woman, Virginia Giuffre, who isn’t part of the case, said in a civil lawsuit that Maxwell trafficked her to Prince Andrew when she was 17. He has denied the allegations.

Under questioning by Menninger, Jane recalled being on one of Epstein’s private plane flights with Prince Andrew.

Epstein’s longtime pilot, Larry Visoski, testified Tuesday that he remembers meeting Jane on one of his flights but that he didn’t know she was a minor.

The flights became the focus of intense media scrutiny after it was discovered that Andrew and other boldface names, like former President Bill Clinton and Trump lawyer Alan Dershowitz, took trips on his planes. There are no allegations of trafficking against Clinton and Dershowitz.

Maxwell, 59, a British socialite, has been accused of identifying and targeting vulnerable girls and young women and “grooming” them for sex with Epstein and other powerful men.

Maxwell, who is on trial accused of helping Epstein recruit and abuse Jane and three other underage girls, mostly in the 1990s, has denied all of the accusations. She pleaded not guilty to the six charges against her.

Maxwell’s lawyers contend that she is being “scapegoated” by federal prosecutors because they can’t try Epstein, a convicted sex offender who hanged himself in a Manhattan lockup two years ago while he awaited trial on charges of sex trafficking.

Maxwell’s siblings echoed the claim that Maxwell has been unfairly targeted for prosecution. On Wednesday, her sister Isabel and brother Kevin were in the courtroom.

Jane revealed that she crossed paths with Trump a day after she testified in graphic detail that Maxwell trained her how to “massage” and sexually satisfy Epstein.

Jane also testified that she was regularly abused by Epstein and took part in orgies that included both Maxwell and Epstein at Epstein’s palatial homes in Palm Beach, Florida, and New York City and on his New Mexico ranch.

When asked, Jane described the sex as “kissing, oral sex on each other, oral sex on Jeffrey, full-on intercourse.”

Jane found her credibility questioned repeatedly by Menninger.

“Did you rehearse your testimony for direct questioning?” Menninger asked.

“No,” Jane replied.

Menninger then produced a thank-you note to Epstein that included the line “You rock my world” and asked Jane whether she wrote it.

“Yes, embarrassingly,” she answered.

Jane, under questioning by prosecutor Alison Moe, said that her family was strapped for cash and that Epstein paid some of their bills. She said she regrets taking the money.

Burying her face in her hands and bursting into tears, Jane said that she was seeking closure and that she had no financial stake in the outcome of the trial.

"Hopefully, this just puts it all to an end and I can move on with my life," she said.

Jane was followed on the stand by an ex-boyfriend, an actor who was identified by the pseudonym Matt. He said Jane told him what she said Maxwell and Epstein did to her. He said Jane also confessed to her mother why Epstein had given her money.

“She told the mother the money was not free," Matt testified.

Jane testified Tuesday that she was still mourning the death of her father when Maxwell and Epstein befriended her at age 14 at the Interlochen Arts Camp in Michigan.

Epstein, who was a big donor to the prestigious program, also had a cabin near the camp.

Jane said Maxwell acted like a big sister while, at the same time, luring her into sex trafficking. She admitted that she didn’t tell investigators about Maxwell’s alleged involvement until after Epstein died by suicide in 2019.

“They did despicable things to me, and I didn’t want to talk about them,” she said Tuesday on cross-examination.

Maxwell’s trial in the Southern District of New York started Monday and is expected to last six weeks.

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Trump “Knew About The Girls”: Calls Grow For Full Epstein Files After Release of Emails
by Amy Goodman
DemocracyNow
November 13, 2025
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/11/13 ... transcript



After months of delays, House Republicans have released tens of thousands of pages of documents from Jeffrey Epstein’s estate, after Democrats earlier publicized emails suggesting that President Trump was aware that Epstein was abusing and trafficking young girls and women. In one of those emails, Epstein wrote that Trump “knew about the girls.” Trump’s allies say the larger set of documents released Wednesday afternoon provide evidence of Epstein’s later animosity towards Trump and support Trump’s claims that he was not previously aware of Epstein’s crimes. Still more evidence — namely, photographs and videos — may soon be publicized, as a petition for the House to vote on the full release of the “Epstein files” received its final signature from newly-sworn in Congressmember Adelita Grijalva. “There is a lot more to come,” says Spencer Kuvin, a lawyer who represents several survivors of Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse and who has reviewed much of the still-unreleased evidence, which is currently under a court protection order. “The FBI does have more information that needs to be released.”

Transcript

This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.

AMY GOODMAN: This is Democracy Now!, democracynow.org, The War and Peace Report. I’m Amy Goodman.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: And I’m Nermeen Shaikh. Welcome to our viewers across the country and around the world.

“I am the one able to take him down.” Those are the words of Jeffrey Epstein talking about Donald Trump in a private email written in 2018. The email is part of a trove of over 20,000 pages of documents released Wednesday by the House Oversight Committee, raising new questions about President Trump’s ties to the deceased convicted sex offender. Earlier on Wednesday morning, Democrats on the committee preemptively released three emails from the files.

In one email from 2019, Epstein wrote that Trump, quote, “Knew about the girls.” In another email from 2011, Epstein described Trump as the, quote, “Dog that hasn’t barked,” noting that Trump had, quote, “Spent hours at my house with Virginia,” a reference to the late Virginia Giuffre, who accused Epstein of grooming and sexually trafficking her, beginning when she was 16 years old. The Democrats released a version of the email with Virginia’s name redacted, but an unredacted version of the email was later released.

AMY GOODMAN: In a recently published memoir, Virginia Giuffre writes she feared she would, quote, “Die a sex slave,” at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein. But in the book, Giuffre does not allege wrongdoing by Trump. She worked at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago before being recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell.

In another email from 2015, Epstein asked a reporter at the New York Times, quote, “Would you like photos of Donald and girls in bikinis in my kitchen?” We’re joined now by Spencer Kuvin, who represents several survivors of abuse by Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. We have a lot to ask you about in a very small amount of time. Start off by responding to these emails that have been released.

Now, the latest news that the House is going to vote on releasing the whole trove of Epstein-Maxwell documents by next week, not in December, as was previously thought. Do you think Johnson get one of the Republican congressmembers who are calling for the release to flip?

SPENCER KUVIN: Well, first of all, thank you for having me on. And I’m not sure exactly what they’re going to actually do, but remember, this is just one procedural hurdle, right? The House has to pass this discharge petition, and then once the discharge petition has now gone through, they’ve got to vote on the floor.

Then, once that vote occurs, it’s got to flip over to the Senate, then the president will have to sign off on releasing this information. So, there are times where – periods in this process where it can get hung up, and we never end up seeing this information.

Also, remember that the most important thing that we want to see and that the general public should be shown isn’t necessarily the documents, it’s the videotapes and photographs that were taken into custody by the FBI at the various different homes of Jeffrey Epstein. We’re talking about his homes down in the Virgin Islands, here in Palm Beach, where I’m at, as well as his home in Manhattan. That’s the information that’s going to speak a thousand words. That’s what the general public needs to see.

AMY GOODMAN: Where are those videotapes? And does the Epstein estate have what many feel the government should’ve taken?

SPENCER KUVIN: Well, I believe the videotapes are in the custody of the FBI because remember, he was arrested at Teterboro Airport, and he never had an opportunity to get back to his mansion post-arrest. And the FBI then executed a search warrant on his home in Manhattan. That is where we believe that a wealth of video evidence was maintained.

In addition to that, they then executed a warrant in the Virgin Islands. We know that after his arrest here in Palm Beach, or actually, I should say, just before his arrest, he had a team of people that took hard drives away from the home here in Palm Beach and secreted them away.

We always understood as attorneys back then in 2007, 2008 when I was representing these young victims that they had likely taken that evidence off to the Virgin Islands to secure it. So, they’ve got 500 gigabytes of information that needs to be released.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: Well, Spencer, you had already seen the emails that were released yesterday, including the one that disclosed that Trump spent hours with Virginia. They were under a protective order by a federal judge, which is why you couldn’t disclose them. Now, if you could talk about when you first saw them, what most surprised you and whether other lawyers or yourself have seen any of the photographic or video evidence that you say is so crucial.

SPENCER KUVIN: Well, I can’t talk about things that might be still protected by protective order. What I can tell you generally is that the emails were part of a litigation that occurred down in the southern district of Florida, and when that disclosure occurred, remember that our advocacy as attorneys was on behalf of victims to try to upend or turn over the sweetheart deal that the U.S. government had executed with Jeffrey Epstein because they failed to keep the victims informed of that deal.

I only learned of it on behalf of my clients because an informant told me that I needed to rush to court because this secret deal was about to be entered. So, a lot of that information was turned over in that litigation. We weren’t really focused on Trump at the time, so it wasn’t the focus of our investigation or our litigation back then. We were just tangentially aware that they existed. Now that the focus is on this material, I can say that there is a lot more to come, and I can say that the FBI does have more information that needs to be released.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: Well, the FBI has also interviewed, as you’ve said, over 40 girls, some just 14 years old. So, where are those interviews, and is there any likelihood that the content of those interviews would be released?

SPENCER KUVIN: Well, first and foremost, I would wish that the identities of those individual victims continue to be protected. Some of them, like a lot of my clients, nearly all of my clients, have remained anonymous even to this day. Almost 20 years later, no one has the identities or the names of my clients that I have kept confidential. So, I would hope that that remains to be the case.

But the contents of those interviews, in other words, what they said, and who they were with and who they told police they had been with and been traded to at Epstein’s mansion, we believe that that information should be made public along with the videotapes and photographs that we believe the FBI has in their custody.

AMY GOODMAN: And Spencer, your response to the latest revelation, that Ghislaine Maxwell, aside from getting very special treatment at the minimum-security jail that she was sent to in Texas that has shocked many because sex abusers are not supposed to be in these minimum–security facilities, is applying for a commutation of her 20-year sentence?

SPENCER KUVIN: Well, of course she is. I’m not shocked or surprised at any action that Ghislaine Maxwell takes. She’s a convicted liar and sex predator, so I don’t believe anything she does, and nothing she does shocks me after 20 years. She will do anything she can to trade on information that she believes she has.

We’ve seen that now in some of the emails that this duo of Epstein and Maxwell were all about leverage. They were trying to use leverage when discussing President Trump, they continued to use leverage when they were discussing Andrew in England and other notorious individuals. And I believe that that deal was struck to transfer her to this prison before she ever spoke to the Department of Justice.

Because why would a criminal – and why would an attorney advising a criminal, tell them, “Speak to the Department of Justice when you have a pending appeal”? It’s asinine. It makes no sense whatsoever, unless there was a deal that was struck beforehand that said, “Listen, if you talk and keep Trump’s name out of this, we’ll transfer you to a nicer prison.”

AMY GOODMAN: Spencer Kuvin, I want to thank you so much for being with us, lawyer for a number of survivors of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s abuse.

Up next, we go to Washington, D.C. where we’ll be joined by the newest member of Congress, Adelita Grijalva. It’s her first full day in Congress. She has become the final vote, cast yesterday, for the discharge petition that calls for the Department of Justice to release all the Epstein files. Stay with us.

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AMY GOODMAN: “I Will Spite Survive” by Deerhoof, performing in our Democracy Now! studio.

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Epstein Estate Documents - Batch 7/TEXT/002
from House Oversight
viewtopic.php?f=227&t=4644
viewtopic.php?f=227&t=4644&start=50#p42036

Highlights:

From: Daniel Siad
Sent: 7/24/2010 5:10:54 PM
To: Jeffrey Epstein [[email protected]]
Subject: hello from ibiza
can you come to Ibiza or you can send us the ticket to come with
Tigrane and five girls to Paris because they have there return ticket
from Barcelona if they are living from here
it will be great if you can arrenge for us tickets for Paris
please let me know so we can get orgnized
On 7/24/10, Jeffrey Epstein <[email protected]> wrote:
> i will be in paris tom000rw night
> • On Sat Jul 24 2010 at 9:32 AM, Daniel Siad
wrote:
»• the other girl name is
» On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Daniel Siad <
wrote:
>» Can you call me
>» I am with tigrane he would like to meet you he is here with me in Ibiza
>» with 8 top girls he said he would like to build some thing with you
>» can you come to Ibiza we have a huge house or how can we orgnise this
>» meeting even Jean Luc could doo a great biz also
>» he has the most amizing top models on stand by I told him not to do any
>» deals with anybody before he meet with you .
>» he stoped working with IMG and Trump wi here please call me and let me
>» know what is your plans
>»
>» warmest regards
>» Daniel
>»
>»
>» On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Jeffrey Epstein
>» <[email protected]>wrote:
>»
»» what is your schedule?

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Sent: 1/29/2015 8:33:35 PM
To: Darren Indyke [email protected]; Jack Goldberger
Subject: FW: National Enquirer Comment Request Re: Jeffrey Epstein
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Subject: National Enquirer Comment Request Re: Jeffrey Epstein
Importance: High
Tonja--
The National ENQUIRER is preparing to publish a story that Bill Clinton used a private "orgy" jet to travel to
Brunei for an extraordinary dinner with a royal accused of duping American women into "white slavery."
The ENQUIRER will report that Bill was accompanied by the 727's owner, billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein,
when he landed in the tiny South-East Asian country on May 25, 2002. His entourage also included two
women who allegedly worked as "madams" for Epstein, luring teenaged girls into sex trysts with the tycoon
and his powerful and famous friends.
According to The ENQUIRER's investigation, Bill spent the day playing golf at a seven-star hotel -- and then was
invited to dine with Brunei's sultan, Hassanal Bolkiah .....who was charged with holding a deeply-religious
Christian beauty queen as a "human chattel." Far from being embarrassed by the ruler's tawdry
reputation, moreover, records for Bill's nonprofit foundation reveal that Brunei made a donation towards his
Clinton Presidential Library that year of between $1. million and $5 million.
Please kindly attempt to provide any comment by 4 pm ET tomorrow, Friday January 30th to Lachlan
Cartwright, Executive Editor, at [Office] or
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Trump's DOJ UNRAVELS into COMPLETE DISASTER
Legal AF
Nov 14, 2025

The Court of History's Sidney Blumenthal & Sean Wilentz are joined by Aaron Davis and Carol Leonnig to discuss their powerful new book (Injustice: How Politics and Fear Vanquished America's Justice Department). Together they dive into the untold threads behind the Jan. 6 riot and the ongoing questions surrounding Merrick Garland’s approach to accountability. A sharp, historically grounded conversation you won’t want to miss.



Transcript

Welcome to the Court of History. The Court is now in session. I'm Sydney Blumenthal. I'm here with my co-host
Sean Wentz of Princeton University. and Sean, every day there's just another
scandal out of the Justice Department of firing prosecutors, of of um persecuting
Trump's enemies, uh of purges, retribution.
Um we we've never seen anything like this in American history with the Justice Department. Yeah, the
transformation of the justice department into a kind of what a u it's the department of vengeance, not the
department of justice. And um but it is extraordinary. I mean, give them their due. I mean, it is every day. I mean,
this is a very active justice department. They're getting a lot done. It's just that what they're doing is is
is is criminal in my view. I mean, it's it's the Department of Injustice. Um
but the question is I I suppose is, you know, Why? What was the Justice Department
like before this? I mean, that's the question that comes to mind because, you know, if if we had this act of a justice
department as we do then as we do now, I suspect we know a lot more about what
would have happened back in 2020. I suspect we know a lot more about you know the the connection between say Donald Trump and and January 6th. But that department was very different and
you know just striking the difference at that level, quite apart from the what they're doing is how active they
are.

Well fortunately we can explore all of that now
with our guests. We're really lucky to have with us the uh co-authors
of an indispensable work of journalism that is really a lasting work
of history. Now, the book is entitled Injustice: How Politics and Fear Vanquished
America's Justice Department. It's really the story of the unraveling of justice since the first Trump
administration, and what happened. It's the inside view. No one else has this
information.

The authors are Carol Lennig, the chief investigative reporter
for MSNBC and a former reporter for the Washington Post. She has won the
Pulitzer Prize five times and is the author of Zero Fail and co-author of
books on Trump's first administration, a very stable genius and I alone can fix
it. And we also have Erin C. Davis, an
investigative reporter for the Washington Post. He's been awarded the Pulitzer Prize twice. I don't know where he fell down. He's was a finalist three
times. His coverage of the January 6 attack on the Capitol won the George
Pulk award, the Robert Robin Toner Award, and for his other post coverage,
the Pulitzer, welcome to the Court of History, Carol and Aaron Davis.

Pleasure to be here. Thank you for having us. I wonder if we can go through this history and this
chronicle that we're still living through and start not so much at
the beginning but at the Trump administration
in its first iteration and James Comey is the FBI director and
Robert Mueller the former FBI director is conducting the investigation. You
write a chapter whose title really tells a lot. The chapter
is called a trusting Mueller and a failure to see the endgame. What do you mean by that? What's going on here?

Thanks for zeroing in on that moment, which we haven't talked a lot about since the book was released November
4th. You know, everyone thinks they know, including Aaron and I. Everyone
thought they knew everything there was to know about the Mueller investigation, but actually there was a lot of concern
and dissension, mild level dissension and infighting
inside the Mueller team of investigators over how firm or how direct Robert
Mueller was going to be in reporting his findings. the ultimate findings of the team when looking at both the Russian
operation to try to infiltrate the election and try to interfere and hurt Hillary Clinton's chances for reelection
and also the investigation into whether Donald Trump as president had
obstructed that investigation, had sought to shutter it. Inside the
Mueller team there were people very concerned that his deputy Aaron Zebi was
sort of milding the report if you will and there's a moment where this is
where failure to see the endgame plays out.

There's a moment where Jeannie Ree, who's a senior counsel for Mueller, and
Aaron Zebi are arguing over the final report and the language that should be
used about what was found with regard to Russian interference. At some point,
Zebi, who is, you know, the right-hand man of Robert Mueller and channeling a
lot of his institutionalism, Mueller's desire to
see himself as working hand-in-hand with Bill Barr's justice department, not only
his good friend, but also ultimately the supervisor of this case. And Jeannie Ree
is saying to Zebi, "We need to be really clear that Russia tried to influence
this election in a way that would elect Donald Trump." I'm paraphrasing her, of
course, but we learned that in this argument, Aaron Zebi
believed that they should really say something like maybe we didn't find
anything when it came to allegations of Russian collusion. She was sort of gobsmacked by that. And Jeannie Ree was
a chess player, which is where we draw the chapter name from. She liked to play
the endgame of chess. She thought that was the most challenging part. And she
and her other teammates ultimately concluded that Mueller didn't really plan for the endgame, how his work might
be manipulated and recast as it ultimately was in a very fatal way for
the investigation by Attorney General Bill Barr. Yeah. And then that infamous press
conference where he claimed there was no collusion and distorted the findings. I remember that vividly. I had a report on the report, right? And I looked at the report and I said, "This is if you dig
deeply enough, this is devastating, you know, and then along comes Mueller and shut down my statement." I mean,
everybody just turned the other way immediately. Yeah. And Jeannie Reed, according to our reporting, was on a European
vacation when Bill Barr recast that there was nothing to see here. And she called her
team from abroad and said you know, I'm really feeling for you. I'm sorry
about what's happening. But she ultimately concluded there was no way to put that genie back in the bottle once
the American people heard there was nothing to see here. That they could fight and fight and fight over new press releases, or asking Bill Barr to do certain things, and to recast or
re-say, but she felt like it was all over.

Yeah. There's another investigation
that people have completely forgotten about that you and Aaron deal with in
the book that is kind of like prehistory, but I think Donald
Trump has not forgotten about it. And it is the investigation involving the alleged $10 million
bribe from the Egyptian president to Donald Trump that was investigated by
the DC US attorney Jesse Lou, and what happens to that?

Well, just as Carol said, you know, there were things that we all saw and and felt about the first Trump term that you realized how much the Justice Department was being changed, and pressure was being put on it then. But there were other
things that we really only began to peel back and understand in the years since then. And one is certainly this hidden part of the Muller investigation that is later sent to the US attorney's office regarding Egypt.

Yes. And this began in the very earliest days of the Trump term when
they were setting up Crossfire hurricane. And one of the things that
comes to the FBI's attention is that the CIA has an informant who's been
telling him that the Egyptian president, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, told people to get
$10 million to Donald Trump for his 2016 campaign.
And this was a significant source of the CIA who had been beneficial
for American interests, and so they began investigating this. He
becomes a part of the Mueller team. He had broken up his operation into team M for Manifort and team R for Russian interference. And this was known as team 10 because it came from the
the idea of $10 million. And they did a lot of work on
this in the Mueller investigation in those years, but one thing they would not do was go the full
length of what the investigators felt needed to be done, to get the bank records, to see if you could find that money coming into Trump's bank accounts or campaign accounts.

And just near the end of the Mueller investigation, there is a significant break in this case. The Mueller team had pressed the
Egyptian government, and the Egyptian national bank, to release information about these accounts where they understood money came out of, and they actually do. It goes all the way to the Supreme Court, and we didn't know it at the time but they ultimately order the bank of Egypt to release these
records or face you know huge penalties, contempt of court. And
included in this information is a statement from one of the bank managers
describing how 5 days before Donald Trump is inaugurated, two guys come in who are
associated with the secret intelligence police in Egypt. They fill up two bags with $100 bills. These are US
currency totaling 10 million in cash, weighing over 220 pounds. And they carry
these bags out of a bank branch near Cairo airport.

This happens just before Mueller closes down his operation. And so this goes to the US attorney's office, and the investigators come over, some of them come over from the Mueller team, and continue working on it inside the US attorney's office, and they're like, "We really need to get all the bank records for Donald Trump, including from the time period after we know this money left Egypt." They had gotten some other bank credit records from previous months. But they now knew it was 5 days before the inauguration that the money left Egypt. What happened to it? Did it go to Trump? But
this required them to take the step of seeking the bank account records of the sitting president at that point in time after he'd been brought into the White House. And Jesse Lou initially is
concerned. She starts to eventually get convinced, we know, from a meeting that takes place with FBI agents, where they kind of lay out all the facts that they have of this case. She goes over to CIA headquarters and reviews intelligence there at Bill Barr's direction because he says, "I'm not sure there's really a predicate for this." And ultimately, Bill Barr meets with then FBI director Chris Ray and his deputy and really puts it on the line saying, "The kids have to stop playing around in this
investigation. Has to be done. if you guys are going to do it, put your names on it.
But I don't really think there's a predicate to go forward with this." And of course, like Carol, I'm paraphrasing as well. And Jesse Lou is also in the predicament at this point in time of seeking a new job inside the administration and the Treasury Department. And she decides not to go forward with the investigation at this moment just before she's seeking this
other job.

This investigation is then left to die, left to wither inside the
department. There's nobody advocating to get those records. And there's
two moments left to just tell you about. One is that the acting
US attorney comes in and is briefed about all of this, Tim Sheay, and
the people sitting around the room in that briefing are stunned when at the end of the briefing they tell him all the evidence that they have, the
only thing he asks is who else knows about this investigation? The implication being for those in the
room that you know, do I have to worry about this getting anywhere else? Sheay later says, "I just wanted to, you know, make sure that this had been told to people up in main justice." But again, nothing happens.

And then, with a oneline email nearly a year later, another Trump bar appointee, Michael Sherwin, ends this investigation, saying to the FBI, "We don't have enough evidence to go forward." Well, by that point in time, they'd spent a year doing
absolutely nothing on the investigation, and it'd been pretty much left to wither and close, unlike even the
most routine basic criminal investigations inside US attorney's office, without any memo explaining why.

What was the roadblock, what was the impediment that it didn't allow you to go any further, and why'd you close this case?

And so it's sitting there, and we still don't know what happened there.

Yeah, it's an extraordinary episode that people have overlooked, and is a predicate for what appears to be Trump's massive self-enrichment using the presidency in his second term. But now Trump resists the election results of 2020, and we have January 6th, and the attack happens on the capital, and we get a new attorney general that is the former Supreme Court nominee who was rejected as a result
of Senator Mitch McConnell's actions in not even allowing him a hearing, Merrick Garland. He's a judge on the US DC circuit court and federal court, and is now attorney general. How does he become attorney general, and what is his attitude about what he wants
to do about all of the things that are left in his lab about what Trump has
done in January 6 and everything else. Great question about how he was chosen.
Something we haven't talked a lot about but is in the book and revealed for the first time. Merrick Garland, by the way,
a very respected judge who I used to cover many, many moons ago when I covered federal court. Uh, has a
sterling reputation both for his his humanity and civility, but also for his
legal mind. And Ron Clay, who is going to be the White House chief of staff for
Joe Biden, is very good close personal friends with Merrick Garland and has,
you know, their their children are friends. They've traveled together and Ron Clay is lobbying Joe Biden hard to
choose Merrick Garland and makes the argument that Garland will give the
Department of Justice a fresh and independent stalwart at its at its helm and that
that will be really critical to changing the tone from when Donald Trump was
president telling Bill Bar through tweets and personal exhortations how to run the department. Uh this will create
a new impeccable independence. There is another person there are other people
around Biden who are lobbying for other candidates uh including um Doug Jones
but ultimately Garland is the person that Biden chooses.
Merrick Garland comes in with his own view of what should be done, which is
that he should not even give the whiff of having any politically motivated
investigations or goals. And he says this publicly in which he describes it's
not enough to be independent and apolitical. You have to be perceived as
being apolitical. Ultimately, this leads to the delays because he concludes they
must investigate the riot and determine once you investigate the January 6 violence brick by brick, perhaps those
rioters will lead you to the higherups who may have coordinated or orchestrated
or pulled together folks to come to Washington on January 6th to block the
certification of the election. Of course, now we know there was no way to
go brick by brick and eventually get to uh evidence that connected you from the
rioters to a very complex and unique
conspiracy to use fake electors to try to cast shade and doubt on the election.
Anyway, Mar Merrick Garland's al other view is that
the fever dream around Donald Trump has burst. He believes that that time is
over. Donald Trump is uh on the dust bin of history because many Republican
senators on January 7th are saying, "I'm done with this guy." Republicans are resigning Amas from his White House and
saying that it that the violence at the capital is is part of their reasoning
for leaving and the way in which Donald Trump fermented that riot.
But Garland's calculations end up being wrong. Um by spring of 2021, Donald
Trump is already planning his return. He's already plotting how to be both a
kingmaker and possibly run for reelection in four more years.
Yeah. You mentioned the fake elector scheme. I was aware of it um almost in
real time. It was reported um and people were aware of it out in the field in the
states. Um they were not secret about what they were doing. Um and they were
operating in lots of states uh creating these fake electors. Um the whole con uh
large parts of the conservative infrastructure were involved um uh
including Turning Point USA in Arizona. Um uh uh and Jenny Thomas, the wife of
uh Justice Clarence Thomas, was deeply involved in Arizona and elsewhere. Um so
but somehow this evaded um Merrick Garland's
purview and he was just concentrating on putting people he considered to be
rioters away. He did not see it as a coup d'eta. Well let me let me add to that though
there was evidence that had come through the national archives. There's this wonderful character in your book um
Leester Mlennon who who had who said she was getting all this stuff across her desk and said who
are these people these are not secretaries of state of these she had it figured out so quite apart from what the insiders knew he was this federal
official what happened with her I mean they could have gotten it from her presumably
well there are there are a couple obviously times that we knew about that uh fake electors have been out there in
the open clearly on January 6th the Republicans are holding up these saying, you know, Mike Pence should send it back
to the states because look, we have this disputed election. But you're right. I mean, it was it's a new uh episode in
all of this and in one of our chapters where even before January 6th in the weeks beforehand, back in December,
Wlesco Mlullen is uh reaching out to the US attorney's office in DC saying, "I'm
not sure what to make of this, but this doesn't feel right." And you know, they had only ever in history by the archives
officials there had one other time when someone who was a little bit delusional and thought wrote himself in for vice
president had sent in a fake collector document to the archives. This was wholly different than that. This was uh
multiple states sending in documents and you know Republican officials from multiple states having signed these
documents and um so uh uh so Weslesca
did see this and you know took this to the US attorney's office and the US attorney's office begins talking to her
about it but then of course just a matter of days later there's January 6th and she follows up with them just a
couple days after that and they're like we really don't think we can do anything with this. Uh we're and they were
legitimately snowed under by rier cases at that point in time. Um and they send it and the only option then for Weslesca
and others at the National Archives is to try to get someone in the states to investigate this. And so they go to
Michigan, they go to Pennsylvania, they go to, you know, attorneys general and those places and and seeking help. But
then you end up a situation where no one sees the forest, you know, for the trees here where there's only, you know, a
slice of this that makes sense under state law and what was it a violation of in Michigan forging these documents. No
one is seeing the broad picture. And it's especially disconcerting uh in our reporting that these do come out
publicly in March of 2021, two months after January 6th when the group American Prosperity uh foyers these
documents and gets them from the archives and then they're sitting out there, but no one is assigned to look at
this within the Department of Justice and whether this was a crime until nearly a year later. And the and the FBI
begins his investigation in April 2022, a full 15 months after January 6th. And
what do they site as some of the predicate for their investigation? These very documents that have been now sitting out in public sphere for over a
year. Yeah. Well, the reason that they're prodded is because of the um select
committee investigating the insurrection um that's been created by the Congress
and they're starting to hold here they hold public hearings including testimony as you point out
from um White House aid Cassidy Hutchinson the dramatic day where she
testified and it turns out according to your book that Um, they had no idea who
she was. That's right. That's right. You know, in many Jeffrey Tubin in the New York Times
review of our book described um the January 6 investigators for the House
Select Committee as perhaps the only heroes that emerge from our book. We
think there are other heroes, but I take his point because this group
investigated like no other congressional investigation since Watergate. Um there
were they were essentially most of them former prosecutors hired by a former US
attorney who created essentially a grand jury like environment um for the House
Select Committee under Liz Cheney and Benny Thompson at the behest of Nancy Pelosi. And the investigative
investigation is incredibly rigorous and fast-paced. Um,
there are three moments that I think are probably the most important that we discovered in our book that show you how
the House investigation, the first footprints in the snow, uh, end up pressuring, humiliating, um, spurring
the Department of Justice to actually take action. One of them is in January,
the week of January 10th, 2022, news begins to leak just as you
described, Sydney, of of the House committee's investigative team finding
all of these records, but also finding all of the uh subpoening records that show the coordination with the campaign,
the campaign's interactions with these officials. Let's be fair, some of their
actions were in open sight. They were being public about it, but there's additional information showing the coordination with Trump's campaign. This
begins to become a news story, including on the network where I work now, MSNBC.
And for a full week, there are questions on this program about where is Merrick Garland, where is the Department of
Justice, because these electors and this scheme appears to not only be a crime
and coordinated, but it, you know, it is a federal and a state crime to interfere in elections. So, what is going on? Um,
very very very soon after, I'd say January 10th and 11th are when these big
stories come out. January 12th and 13th, there's additional news coverage. And on January 14th, the only prosecutor in the
entire Department of Justice who's been assigned to look at whether Trump's campaign has some connection to the
riot, Thomas Wendam, reaches out to that character that you mentioned, Wlesco
Mlen. The second big moment is uh with the Cassidy Hutchinson testimony in
June, Merrick Garland is watching that testimony and turns to one of his aids
and says, "Did we know about her?" The answer from the aid is no sir. And that
afternoon um again Thomas Windham reaches out we now know and we reveal
for the first time in our book reaches out to George Towiliger an attorney for Mark Meadows and requests uh copies of
all the texts and emails that Meadows had around the time of January 6th. The
the reason that is so striking is these same records are records that the House
Select Committee first received in November of 2021. Nine months, eight months, I can't seven
months earlier. I'm sorry, my math is bad now. Um, but that was publicly known
that the House had that information and they and they boasted of it, but uh Windham doesn't ask for it until Merrick
Garland sees Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony. Yeah. Tell us about the story of what
happens with Thomas Windam. That itself is an incredible little story within the larger
narrative. Which part? Bench meetings, all kinds of things. Yeah. I mean, he's he's the he's the one
guy who is he's the only prosecutor with the mand investig.
It is an amazing kind of thing. And it's the kind of it's kind of like to me the cinematic part of the one of the cinematic parts of the whole book which
is that you know a year after January 6th finally there's an investigation
beginning and looking at uh was Trump or anyone around him criminally culpable for the things that have been done and
you know it's really one prosecutor who gets assigned gets moved from Maryland to DC and so the day that uh the new US
attorney comes in he signs the transfer order and Thomas Windham begins looking through a lot documents that nobody had
ever had time or nobody had been assigned to look at until then like all the focus inside the US attorney's
office is really on the riers on questions of sedicious conspiracy and and those groups and um he quickly goes
to the to the FBI and you know tries to see if they would work with him to see
what what they can find and he begins to focus in on this area around uh you know the Willard Hotel and you know the
people close to Donald Trump's campaign who all stayed there it seem to be a kind of a nexus point
and the FBI is very reluctant. Um, in fact, uh, Windham goes to meet with the
then Washington field office director and and others and and says, you know, can we get a subpoena? Can we see who
all is staying there? And Steven Dantoano says, no way. I'm not going to subpoena these, in his words, the the
frigin Willard Hotel. Uh, you know, this is a hundreds of rooms. What if we find,
you know, an affair going on? There's going to be all kinds of information we could get that we don't need that would be relevant to this. We're just
searching. We're fishing, basically. What's the crime that you're trying to prove? And so, not only is Windam the
only one um starting this, but he has to then go find without the FBI his own
team to to to figure this out. And you're right, as Carol said, he goes to Wlesca, he goes to the postal office,
the postal inspector's office to get an agent there to see if they'll investigate if there was mail fraud involved in sending these fake elector
documents uh to DC. He does because he has a personal relationship, goes and meets, you know, one point in time with
Tim Hayy, the head of the the uh investigation on the and the House Select Committee. They meet on a park
bench like a very DC scene, you know, in between the big buildings of DC.
Not a parking garage. We didn't get a parking garage in the story. Yeah. So, um, but you know, I've
thought about it for a while. Thomas Windham had the most interesting job in all of the United States and nobody even knew about it.
Yeah. With that, let us close part one. We have much, much more to discuss with
Carol and Erin Davis in their book, Injustice. In part two, we're going to
discuss the appointment and the travailes of the special prosecutor Jack
Smith. We're going to discuss the Mara Lago investigation and Trump's uh
reelection uh and the purges to come and what happens at the Department of Justice. So
on on behalf of my colleague Sean Wence, uh this session of the Court of History
is now adjourned.

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Jeffrey Epstein claimed he gave Russians insight into Trump. Newly released emails show the late convicted sex offender’s extensive network of foreign contacts, whom he corresponded with about Trump’s policy decisions.
By Kyle Cheney and Nahal Toosi
Politico
11/12/2025 03:40 PM EST
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/1 ... s-00648919

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President Donald Trump, left, and Russian President Vladimir Putin shake hands at the beginning of a meeting at the Presidential Palace in Helsinki, Finland, July 16, 2018. | Pablo Martinez Monsivais/AP

Nearly a month before President Donald Trump met Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Helsinki in 2018, Jeffrey Epstein attempted to pass a message to Russia’s top diplomat: If you want to understand Trump, talk to me.

“I think you might suggest to putin that lavrov can get insight on talking to me,” Epstein wrote in a June 24, 2018, email to Thorbjorn Jagland, a former prime minister of Norway who was leading the Council of Europe at the time of the exchange. Lavrov was an apparent reference to Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s longtime foreign minister.

In the email exchange, one of hundreds released Wednesday by congressional investigators, Epstein indicated he had previously talked about Trump with Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s forceful ambassador to the United Nations, before Churkin died in 2017.

“Churkin was great,” Epstein, the late convicted sex offender, wrote. “He understood trump after our conversations. it is not complex. he must be seen to get something its that simple.”

The exchange was among dozens that showcase Epstein’s extraordinary network of international associates, whom he often corresponded with about Trump’s first-term policy decisions.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the emails, but press secretary Karoline Leavitt said at a briefing Wednesday the broader set of emails “prove absolutely nothing other than President Trump did nothing wrong.”

Trump later posted on Truth Social: “Democrats are trying to bring up the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax again because they’ll do anything at all to deflect on how badly they’ve done on the Shutdown.” He was referring to the U.S. government shutdown.

In the emails, Jagland said he was meeting Lavrov’s assistant the following day and would suggest a connection with Epstein. It’s unclear if anything ever came of the proposed contact.

But Epstein would later opine about Trump’s fateful meeting with Putin, which was panned around the world for his apparent capitulations to the Russian dictator.

“Do the Russians have stuff on Trump? Today was appalling even by his standards,” wrote Larry Summers, the former Clinton administration Treasury secretary and Obama administration economic adviser, in an email to Epstein on July 16, 2018, the day of the Helsinki summit with Putin.

“My email is full with similar comments. wow,” Epstein replied the next day. “Im sure his view is that it went super well. he thinks he has charmed his adversary.. Admittedly he has no idea of the symbolism. He has no idea of most things.” He also called Trump’s handling of the summit with Putin “predictable.”

Summers did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Days later, Epstein was flexing his overseas relationships in an email exchange with former Trump adviser Steve Bannon, telling him in a July 23, 2018, message that Bannon needed to be physically present in Europe to wield influence on the continent.

“If you are going to play here , you’ll have to spend time, europe by remote doesn’t work,” Epstein wrote.

Epstein told Bannon he could organize one-on-one meetings with foreign leaders but that he would have to stay for several days.

“The fear is that you gin up their hopes and emotions and then abandon them. I think you want to be an insider, not an outsider flying in and out.”

A representative for Bannon declined to comment.

Epstein often relied on his foreign contacts to learn about their views of Trump as he obsessively tracked the new president’s actions. And at other times, he simply showcased his deep connections around the world in emails with other associates.

“Can you belive MBS sent me a TENT carpets and all,” Epstein wrote to billionaire businessman Tom Pritzker in December 2016, referring to Mohammed bin Salman, who is now the Saudi crown prince.

“A tent? Hmmm…” Pritzker wrote back. “I think that is code for ‘I love you’. Or, maybe code for ‘go pound sand’. Better check your [Kingdom of Saudi Arabia] urban dictionary.”

Pritzker did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

A year before he reached out to Jagland for help with the Russians, Jagland asked Epstein to visit him in Strasbourg, France, so Epstein could help him “understand more about Trump and what’s going on in the American society.”

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Jeffrey Epstein Helped Broker Israeli Security Agreement With Mongolia
by Murtaza Hussain and Ryan Grim
Dropsite News
Sep 28, 2025
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/jeffrey- ... urity

Among Epstein’s international connections was Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, a businessman based in the United Arab Emirates. Sulayem asked Epstein two weeks before Trump’s first inauguration if he should “accept the invitation” extended to him by Trump associate Tom Barrack, who oversaw the event.

Barrack did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Epstein responded that it would be “very crowded” but might be worth it to make connections in Washington or New York before and after the festivities.

“Do you think it will be possible to shake hand with trump,” Sulayem responded. It’s unclear if Epstein replied.

Saudi representatives declined to immediately respond to a request for comment, and the Russian Embassy in Washington didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. Jagland couldn’t be reached for comment and Sulayem didn’t respond to a request sent to what appeared to be his Instagram account.

Shia Kapos, Gregory Svirnovskiy, Cheyanne Daniels and Aaron Pellish contributed to this report.

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The Epstein TRAP: Trump, Israel & the DEATH of America | Prof Jiang Xueqin
Danny Haiphong
Nov 14, 2025

Prof. Jiang Xueqin PREDICTED THIS, and he returns to the program to break down his shocking insights into the collapse of Trump and the US empire amid the exploding Epstein files crisis and the critical role of Israel in fueling it.

Jiang Xueqin's Substack: https://predictivehistory.substa..



Transcript

Good evening everyone. Welcome back to the show. It's your host. It's your host
Danny Hiong. Thanks for coming out this evening. Uh please do hit the like button before you or as you come on
because we have a great show for you today because what we're talking about is much bigger than just a scandal. We
are talking about a major trap that was now being exposed by the very people who
built it. Newly released Epstein emails have sent shock waves through Trump's circle and really the entire
establishment because what's inside them reveals corruption, power, and criminality on a scale that we may have
seen before, but uh it is only getting worse and worse as people clamor for the
files. Tonight we are joined by uh professor Jang Sue Chin of predictive
history, a geopolitical analyst who connects the dots between the elites, secret societies, and the forces driving
the collapse of America's empire. Uh, Professor Jang, thanks so much for
coming back on the show. It's great to have you. Thanks so much, Danny. Thanks so much for having having me back.
Of course. Of course. Well, let's get right to it. many have been paying attention and really diving into these
uh major email revelations. And now what we have regarding Epstein is Trump's
response. And here it is. Now that the Democrats are using the Epstein hoax involving Democrats, not Republicans, to
try to deflect from the disastrous shutdown. And then he goes on and on. He is going to now ask his own attorney
general and the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate Epstein's involvement with the leadership and with
the relationships with Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reed Hoffman, JP Morgan,
on and on and on saying it's another Russia Russia Russia scam. Now what's uh
pretty incredible about this uh professor Jang is that uh we are seeing
power I think be exposed in real time and I want your take on how this all
works because Donald Trump cannot run away from the fact that Jeffrey Epste in these emails said it straight up. He
said it is wild. I am the one to be able to take him down. referring to Donald
Trump when he was being investigated uh in the first term that he served.
So, Professor Jang, maybe you can give us an overview first of how uh power
works. I know you've been covering secret societies. What is the conspiracy here? Because just as this was
happening, you had Trump begging for Netanyahu to be pardoned and we have a major political crisis and of course the
collapsing American empire all coming together. Uh take it away. Yeah, so these Epstein files, these
emails, they're being released and um they're really enlightening and they
really illuminate for us how power works. So I will give a structural
overview of what these emails reveal to us. Okay. The first thing um it reveals to us is that all these people in power,
the elite, they're all friends with each other. Um so in public, you know, the
Democrats and Republicans, they can be fighting each other, but in reality, they go to the same schools, um they go
to the same parties, um they they're just friends with each other. So what
you're seeing in public, the sort of like um polit political struggle in public, it's all um just fake. It's like
wrestling. Uh it's reality TV. These the elite are all friends with each other. That's the first thing. Um second thing
that we've noticed about the um emails is how cavalier the elite are. They
think that they're above everyone else. They think they're untouchable. So they just they just speak their minds freely,
you know. I mean, Jeffrey Epstein, he was using Gmail in order to make all these sensitive communications. There's
absolutely no operation operational security. Um, he didn't really care because he believed he was untouchable.
Um, and that's that's how how the elite think and behave. They live in a bubble. They think that they control the world
uh and they're untouchable. So they can do they can do what whatever want whatever they want. And all that matters is staying within this bubble, staying
close to um each other. The third thing I will say is that
these emails don't tell us but we can assume that there are many layers of u
networking among the elite. Um so uh so Trey Epstein why was he so popular uh
among the elite? Well, I mean, first of all, he he was just a friendly guy who did a lot of networking and was able to
bring the elite together. But if you look at go to Epson Island, you will find that there are there's a temple
there that's almost designed for ritual sacrifice. So, um, what I've researched
and what what I've discovered is that the way that the elite stay together is through rituals, secret society rituals.
Why? Because at the at the end of the day, if you're part of elite, your biggest problem is um trust. How can you
trust that person to not rat you out in this political struggle? And the answer
is well, you blackmail each other, right? So, so you do acts together uh that were considered taboo, including um
you know, sex with uh underage children. Um I mean there are lots of
transgressions that that you can do and the more trans transgressions you do the more cohesive the elite is. So um
unfortunately if you dig deeper into Jeffrey Epstein what you'll find is a lot of um um transgressions both sexual
and violent as well bring these social taboos. I mean like as like like like
the public I mean it it like like what's really astonishing about the EP Jeffrey
Epstein case is that slowly the inner workings of the elite are being revealed
to the public and all these conspiracy theories that we once believed couldn't possibly be true um including that the
entire um American elite are just a bunch of pedophiles. I mean, they're slowly turning out to be true and and
and this marks a radical turning point in American history.
Yeah. Yeah. Great point. And you know, to that end, uh, in terms of how
flippant all of this is and and you know, there is this email that's been the most recent emails that have been
going around. What is so incredible about them is that the more that they are released in this weaponized way, the
more we find out. And here is one between Epstein and his and between
Epstein's brother Mark and him talking, you know, how are you doing? This is what they're saying. How are you doing?
What is your boy Donald up to? Now referring to Donald Trump. Uh Mark Epstein says or he says all good. Bannon
is with me. So Steve Bannon. Uh then Mark says ask him if Putin has the
photos of Trump blowing Bubba. Uh and then and I thought I had sir. That's
what um Jeffrey Epstein said what that mean. That's a Yiddish word for trouble. Uh you and your boy Donnie can make a
remake of the movie Get Hard. This is how they're talking to each other on an unsecure server. Uh Professor Jang
talking about Bill Clinton and Donald Trump. I mean, this is shocking a lot of people, but uh maybe you can reiterate
or reinforce or elaborate on kind of what this really reveals about uh uh uh
all of this, what what's going on here? Because what I see is a dying American empire kind of just being exposed
without uh really, you know, not by journalists, not by people doing the work, but by themselves.
Well, I mean, we also have to remember that um Jeffrey Epstein in his Manhattan penthouse, there's a painting of Bill
Clinton in a dress in drag basically. So, um one possible interpretation is
that all these politicians that we think are our representatives, um you know, they're all just the play
things of the elite. They're just puppets of the elite. U they're just paid actors. They're literally paid
actors. And so American democracy has always been a lie. Um, and so Bill
Clinton, Donald Trump, they just do the bidding of the powerful. And the
powerful are, you know, in their party, secret parties laughing at us, mocking
us because um they've been able to deceive us. and and we um every day are
fighting over um you know these petty politics that has absolutely nothing to do with real power. So I I think that
what these Ipsy emails reveals is the deep contempt that the elite has for the
people um and these politicians are nothing more than just these um puppets
that the elite um display in front of us to in order to distract our distract us.
Everything's being created by by the powerful and so what we see in Washington DC has is has nothing been
more than a rally rally TV show. Yeah. Yeah. Great points. Uh, Professor
Jang, you know, and it goes deeper than this because I think one of the things
that is left out of this conversation has been, we're going to be touching this a lot throughout the program,
Israel. Because this is we have to remember this was a limited release uh by the House Oversight Committee by the
US government itself, a major uh I guess a slight Democratic party majority. So really it was a partisan thing despite
how much the emails really showed. But I want to pull up what are what emails are
not being emphasized. And I want to pull up this one in particular uh talking about how Epstein was effectively
drafting foreign policy messaging for former Israeli PM Eud Barack who many
believe was uh really um instrumental in
the Epstein rel they had a very close relationship. Uh I would use the opportunity says Jeffrey Epstein to
compare it with Iran talking about Syria. The solutions become more complex with the time I see. I think many people
would like your views on Egypt, Syria, etc. Russia's role. I think you might point out that gassing of women and
children is an expression of the 20th century. Women are no longer equivalent children, civilians versus combatants
only. Literally giving advice, Professor Jang on how Jeffrey Epstein giving
advice on how Israel should paint uh uh its you know, US foreign policy. I mean,
talk about this. I I think this really blows open the realities of these
relationships and how it gets all the way to the level of empire. Yeah. So um the first thing we need to
understand is that power um always consolidates and coaleses.
What I mean by that is that these intelligence agencies Mossad, CIA, MI6
um they're all you know they're all interlocked together. They're all in alliance together. Um that's the first
thing. Second thing is that these um intelligence agencies are also in alliance with different secret societies
as well as criminal organizations. Um so from the perspective of uh people like
someone like Jeffrey Epstein, he's the real power in the world and that's why
he thinks that he can dictate foreign policy to everyone. Okay. So um um I
don't think Jeffrey Epstein was actually a spy. I think Gileian Maxwell um his girlfriend was actually the spy. Um and
one good piece of evidence for that is that Galileen Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, was a notorious spy and he was
working for Mossad, um MI6 as well as Russian intelligence,
uh the KGB. Um so that's how the powerful works. the powerful are almost like a nexus of all these intelligence
agencies, uh, foreign governments, secret societies and criminal organizations. And so they discuss
amongst themselves how to best frame issues and how to best push um, uh,
events. So you know from the p perspective if you look at if you look at more and more of Jeffrey Epson's
emails what you what you would discover is that he he was privy to a lot of geopolitical events and in fact he was
actually helping to plan a lot of geopolitical events as well.
Yeah. Yeah. And uh let's go dive more deeply now into some of these power
players that were revealed to be not to be very close to Jeffrey Epstein where
he was literally talking about them with Kathy Rumier who is Obama's uh on Obama's legal council u white house
council he says girls when talking to her careful I will renew an old habit mind you uh she says you might get sick
of me just sat down on this train you're not managing it anything your time well enough. It's UN General Assembly week.
He says this week, Peter Teals, Larry Summers, William Burns, former CIA director, Gordon Brown, a former UK
Prime Minister, Jaglin, who is a Nobel Peace Prize chairman, was Mongolian
president. He's just naming people. Boris Gates, Bill Gates, everyone who he has contacts with, who he meets with,
and says, "I might uh pick up I might renew an old habit."
you just your response before we move on. Yeah. So, um I mean first of all it's
obvious that everyone in power they're friends with each other. They know they know each other. So this sort of like um
struggle between nation states. It's all just um a a curated media show for us.
Um it's not it's actually real. What goes on behind the scenes is that these powerful people are all friends. Okay.
So, u even though there's wars going on uh between Russia and Ukraine, guess
what? The elite of Ukraine and Russia all friends. Guess what? Uh the elite of
Europe and Russia and Ukraine and America, they're all friends. They go to the same parties. Um their children go
to the same schools. Uh they probably they're probably intermarried with with each other. So, that's really how the
world works. And as these more as more and more of these Epstein files are released, the more and more we will
discover that the elite is all interconnected. They're just playing us for fools. That I think is is the
ultimate message of these file release. Yeah. Yeah. And uh, Professor Jang, you
know, in your uh, works you have called America where while Jeffrey Epste
seemingly was working for Israel, he was working within the United States and tugging on all of the most powerful
people to the point where he was I I mean, a lot of people have been bringing this up. Uh, he had all of this dirt on
Donald Trump and then he ended up dead. Could you could you talk about the uh
given that we know Jeffrey Epste was a major player in driving US foreign policy was a major drive was majorly
connected and was likely conducting some kind of what seemed like a blackmail operation. uh talk about why why is this
necessary from the point of view of the the power elite those who are ruling
over this empire because uh we have major connections to Israel, major
connections to this decaying American empire that now Donald Trump is looking
like the kind of uh per the the leader that's falling on the sword so to speak
that he is being uh absolutely uh he is being dragged almost as the you
know antichrist figure in all of this. Yeah. So the first thing to note is that
Jeffrey Epstein is not unique. You go to any major American city, I guarantee you
there is a Jeffrey Epstein like figure coordinating among the cities different
politicians, celebrities, mafia organizations, secret societies. Okay. So Jeffrey Epstein is a very common
character in today's world. Now why is that the case? Well, okay. So let's look at today's world and I will and I will
highlight three structural issues with today's world. Okay. The first major problem with today's world is the
atomization of society. Meaning that we focus on the individual whereas before in previous societies we focus on the
family, the tribe, the clan. Um but nowadays uh we've all been atomized.
We've all been individualized that diminish our capacity to work together for the pursuit of certain political
ends. Okay, that's the first major problem in today's world. Second major problem in today's world is um
globalization, multiculturalism, transnationalism. So people's sense of
ethnic identity has been dampened. It's um it's been diluted and so people are
less willing to work for um a cultural cohesive cause. Okay, that's second
major problem. The third major problem which is the most major problem is the bureaucratization
of society. You look at the growth of the federal government uh in in uh
Washington DC. Then you look at the growth of the EU superstate uh in uh in
Europe. So our lives have become more and more bureaucratic. The problem with this is that bureaucracies
are indifferent. They're aloof. They're compartmentalized. Okay. So um all these
different departments are siloed off and they cannot coordinate together. So in
today's society you have a problem of coordination. How do you get groups to work together? Well you get them to work
together mainly for secret societies um and and because secret societies solve
three major problems that would benefit uh the members in today's society. The first is secrecy, second is trust and
the third is coronation. Okay. So secrecy because you don't want to be discovered, you know. Um if you are
discovered, people would think that you're cheating in this game and then they would be you would be outlawed, you' be persecuted. Uh trust is how do
you trust members of your society not to um rat you out? And the third is how do
you work together for a common cause, coronation? And the solution to all
three problems is of course blackmail. Um so you need someone like Jeffrey
Epstein and there are lots of people uh like um Jeffrey Epstein to help the
elite um coales together through blackmail by engaging in acts of
transgression whether it's uh ritual sexual abuse of children which is very
common but look there are actually even worse forms of transgression I'm not going to go into them uh because they
are disgusting and vile but but but we've all heard rumors um of of this transgression. So that's
why we have blackmail today. That's why someone like Jeffrey Epstein is everywhere in society. Um and that's why
we need someone like Jeffrey Epstein because the only way for the elite to work together is through blackmail.
Otherwise, they don't trust each other. Otherwise, they'll go to war um with each other. So something something I
will say uh with regard to Donald Trump is that people forget that Trump's first
mentor and his most influential teacher was actually Ray Cole. Okay, if you look at Ray Cole, if you look at that at
history, he was actually the original Jeffrey Epstein. Um he was um part of
the Washington gay mafia and he specialized in blackmailing politicians.
He was very good friends with Jay Edgar Edgar Hoover. they they went to each other's um parties um where they engaged
in all these sort of like homosexual endeavors and they had pictures of each other. So um Roy Cole was the original
Jeffrey Epstein and he was the mentor of Donald Trump. So what did Donald Trump learn from Roy Cole? He learned how to
blackmail other people but most importantly and this is this is really important for us to understand is he
learned how to avoid being blackmailed. So, another thing
that I will say about Donald Trump is that he's a tea toddler. He does not drink. This is really weird because
we've known him as a playboy ever since the 1980s and he's always dating the, you know, these beautiful women. He's
he's always throwing these lavish parties. He's always hanging out with um
the most famous, the most wealthy. And he himself, even though he's organizing his parties, does not touch alcohol or
drugs. Why? because he learned from Roy Cole, that's how they get you. Okay? The
worst thing that can happen to you is blackmail. So, I guarantee you these emails that are coming out, there's no
dirt on this guy. If there was any dirt on this guy, Donald Trump, we we would have seen it in 2016 or 2020 when the
elite spent $6 billion to get rid of Donald Trump. Okay? So, I'm telling you right now, there's absolutely no
blackmail on Donald Trump. I'm also telling you that blackmail is just a way of life among the powerful.
Yeah. Well, what's interesting about this from what you're saying then, Professor Jang, is that uh Donald Trump
has been melting down about this. So, I guess we can talk about why because
we've seen now there's a lot of conversations that have been happening since early on in this Epstein saga. You
know, the Trump administration promised to release these files and then broke that promise. And here is what some
people are bringing up. Here is uh many he had many run-ins with the mainstream
media about this. Here is just one lingering mysteries. One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for a
American or foreign intelligence agency. Um the former labor secretary who was uh
Miami US attorney um Alex Costiki allegedly said that he did work for an
intelligence agency. So could you resolve whether or not he did? And also, could you say why there was a minute missing from the jail house tape on the
night of Yeah, sure. If I could I just interrupt a second? Are you still talking about Jeffrey
Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, "We have
Texas. We have this. We have all of the things." And are people still talking about this
guy, this creep? That is unbelievable.
So, that was his response there. But this uh has had a major impact on the
what many are calling the MAGA base and uh it has been angered by this and
Trump has lost many prominent figures including Candace Owens who commented on this situation. Here it is.
Seems to have been hiding these emails. They're not good. Okay, they are
completely indefensible. But I already told you I was done with MAGA at the moment he looked us in the face and he said what files, right? What? What are
we still talking about? Jeffrey Epstein. Pam Bondi said it was a Democrat hoax. No, I I think the entire nation has been
hoaxed by Republicans and Democrats and there are pervert elites that sit at the top.
So that was her response. Professor Jang, you know, given if there is no dirt on Trump, why would he hide it
then? Because in the emails, uh, what it was proven was that he had deep associations. Of course, we don't have
proof that he took part necessarily in any of the activities beyond the fact that uh it seems like Virginia group
Frey was saying that she didn't want to run into Trump uh should Jeffrey Epste
not be there. So your your assessment? Yeah, so we know um from news reporting
that Epstein and Trump go all the way back. Um they've known each other ever since the 1980s. Um and they they used
to be best friends. Uh Epstein was a frequent uh visitor to Mara Lago and
they had a falling out because um Trump believed that Epstein was stealing uh
his um his workers to go work for for himself. Um and so they had a falling
out and there's actually rumors that Trump uh was one of the informants that
um that um um landed Epstein in in trouble the law in in in the first place
and this this is back in the early 2000s. So um Epstein and Trump had a falling out. Okay. So that's that's
something that that that we we know. Uh that's number one. Number two is that it's as you say, it's
really interesting that Trump doesn't want to talk about Epstein. In fact, uh
he's done a lot to suppress the Epstein files. Um so why would he do that? So,
okay, now let's do a thought experiment. U it's really important for us to do a thought experiment to understand what's going on. The year is so so we go back a
year. Donald Trump has just won the presidency and let's just assume what a second term
would look like. We would think that in the in the uh business world, Ellen Musk
would be his main backer because Ellen Musk gave $100 million to Trump's um campaign, right? We would also expect
that in the media there would be three individuals that would be more supportive of Trump. Nick Fuentes,
Taco Carlson, Kenneth Owens. Okay. And we can also expect within the US
Congress, Trump would have some diehard supporters that would do whatever he wants. Okay. And um the two that that
would come most readily to mind are MTG, Marjorie Taylor Green as well as Lauren Bobett. Why? Because during the first
term, these were these two were the most diehard Trump MAGA supporters. Okay? So
that's what we expect. Now, what is the reality? The reality is
that with Ellen Musk, he had a falling out with Donald Trump. You know, he had a black eye, then he left the White House, and and after he leaves the White
House, he has this tweet and and he and he's basically like Trump's in the Epstein bios. Mark my words. Okay,
that's kind of strange. Then uh you have Nick Fuentes, Kenneth Owens, Taro
Carlson turning against Trump uh and in fact doing as much as possible to
embarrass uh the Trump administration. Now you look at Congress, these Epstein files
are being released because four members, four Republican members of Congress have sided with the Democrats in voting for
uh their release. Okay, these four Republicans are Thomas Massie, Nancy
Mace, and Marjorie Taylor Green, and
Lauren Bobbit. In fact, what we know is that Pen Bondi had a very long meeting
with Lauren Bobbit trying to tell her, "Hey, man, don't switch sides. Don't vote for the release of these files. The
president will be very angry at you." Okay, so this is really weird. The people that we expect to most support
Donald Trump in the second term have now turned against him.
This makes no sense because what did Donald Trump do to piss these people off. So, and also like as as I keep on
saying, there's absolutely no blackmail on on this guy because a guy like Donald Trump, he has been breaking a law in his
entire life and getting away with it. So he knows how to skirt the law. He knows how to not get in trouble with the law.
And he knows how to be careful of of someone like Jeffrey Epstein who cannot keep his mouth shut. Okay. So there's I
don't think there's any dirt on this guy. I I'd be very surprised if the Epstein files implicate Trump in any
manner. I understand yes Trump is named a lot in his files and I understand that
yeah Trump um likes to be seen with underage girls. I mean he he was in charge of these like Miss Teen USA
pageantss. Okay. So there's nothing really surprising about these Epstein files. So the question is why is this
happening? And I have a theory. Okay. And this theory could be completely
idiotic. Okay. But but but I I propose this theory. It's all a show. It's a Trump show. It's
all an illusion. Okay. These Epstein files do not implicate Trump. but he
wants to create a spectacle around the Epcene Files. You know, he was um part
of the World Wrestling Federation for a long time. He was and he had his own TV show, The Apprentice, for a long time. So, he he understands TV show plotting.
He understands how to maximize an audience emotional reaction to a certain
event. What he's doing is creating tension, right? He could release the
tension the Epson files um like many months ago and we would go over the
Epson files and we'd be like what is this crap? This is this tells us nothing that we don't already know. We know Bill
Clinton. We know Bill Gates. We know Larry Summers. We know Jamie Diamond. We're all part of the Epstein circle and
they all visit Epstein. We all know we all we know all this, right? So how do
you create a visceral hatred for the Democrats and for the elite among the
people? What you do is you create as much tension as possible by making this
Epstein files as seemingly secretive as possible. But not only that, but you create a situation in which the people
are begging for the Epstein files so that when new information comes out,
they become more and more agitated. They become more and more violent. That's what we're seeing today. Okay. So,
remember what's happening. Remember what's happening is that while the uh House Oversight Committee um the
Democrats are releasing more and more files with Trump being implicated, Trump has announced that they will launch an
investigation of Bill Clinton and his ties with Epstein. And before people would be like, "This
is partisan. Trump is clearly going after Democrats." But now people are like, "Oh, well this makes sense because
we want more information released about about Epstein. Release all the files." Okay. So, um, this is all theater. This
is all an illusion. Trump is not implicated in ets files, but Bill
Clinton, Bill Gates, Larry Summers, Jimmy Diamond, the the main leaders of
the Democratic party in many ways in and it's possible that eventually um um
Podesta, John Podesta will be implicated as well. Okay, we're seeing Trump slowly
use lawfare to go after his Democratic enemies. Um, and it, you know, it's
quite quite honestly it's entirely possible that one day Trump will use lawfare against Obama as well. So,
I know this sounds strange. I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but just look at the facts before you.
Yeah. Well, that's that's an interesting take, President Jar. From what I see from these emails, while they don't, you
know, I think a lot of people are seeing a smoking gun on a lot of these emails given that uh Jeffrey Epstein was
hanging out with him during his presidency, was in the Trump Tower. So many things have been revealed about
their relationship. A and Jeffrey Epste in these emails himself said that, you
know, he's the the dog that's barking, so to speak, around this particular victim. So it would be interesting, you
know, but at the same time it it it's a very limited release. So we don't necessarily know everything and we don't
know how far this goes. But we do know that Donald Trump was in the situation room right after this trying to
discipline his uh you know u colleagues like uh Lauren Boowbert uh who is a
representative in Congress. they're voting on uh releasing these files and uh it seems like the Trump
administration was trying to discipline her to not go along with this and she ended up rescending. So would you say
that this is all theater because it does look like we are being taken down this
road of uh these files are in the conversation. The problem for Donald
Trump is that it actually is hurting him quite badly in terms of his own base. Uh
you said Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, these folks are going against him now. They are uh they are and they a lot of
reason a lot of the reason is because of this because he he didn't fulfill this pro promise to release the files. Your
thoughts? Look, it's all tension and release. It's all theater, right? Because um you know,
you you look at World Wrestling Federation, okay? People love those who
they hate and people love redemption story. Okay, so Trump Yeah. Yeah. He's
got 36% approval ratings and his base has turned against him and Tor Carlson,
Nick Fantes, um Dave Smith all talking trash about him. But so what you know
what does it matter? What matters is in 2028 that election. That's what matters
because Trump has the intention of running for a third term. That's the key. Okay. Also, what's the key what's
key is that we can expect more political violence in America over the next few years. Um the the sort of the sort of
political consensus has it's broken down. Uh there's this major infighting among the elite that these Epstein fouls
are revealing to us. So Trump needs a street army on his side. And what he's
doing is that he's messaging to the MAGA. Listen, the real enemy is the
elite. Um the elite has me cornered. Okay. The elite the elite has blackmail
on me and that's why I'm begging for help. You know, like like like there's nothing I can do. Uh if Nahu wants me to
go bomb Iran, I can't do anything about it. If um the deep state wants me to go bomb Venezuela, I can't I can't do
anything about it. I'm being held hostage, save me. Okay, that's that's slowly the message being sent to his base. Okay, I
know it sounds weird, but what we need to understand is that look, watch a
football game or watch a basketball game. These athletes are superstars. They're able to do things that are
unimaginable to us. these politicians, Donald Trump, um um MTG, uh Tom Thomas
Massie, they're able to have a six sense of political winds, of how the of how
America, the mood in America is developing and how to best manipulate it through nuance. Okay. They're able to
ride that wave. So again, I know this sounds crazy, but like let's how things
play out over the next few months. Yeah. No, I mean it look look uh this is
a moment right now and it looks really bad. Uh and you know this is one of the
worst uh I think starts to a presidency in a long time. But at the same time we were talking about this there there's
elites pulling strings for real policy which I think we can get to now this
what isn't being talked about and at all really when it comes to these emails and
that is the role of Israel. And I want to pull up this. Um, Professor Jang,
Caitlin Johnstone, great uh, journalist, does great analysis, pulled up a bunch
of headlines that, you know, uh, stories that have been coming out in recent
weeks, many of them from Drop Site News, uh, you know, and I'll just pull them up here. Israeli spy safe for weeks at a
time with Jeffrey Epstein in Manhattan. leaked emails show Epstein working on a wire transfer to Ahoud Barack's top aid
Yoni Corin who regularly stayed at his apartment. Jeffrey Epstein helped broker Israeli security agreement with
Mongolia. Jeffrey Epste and the Mossad. How he helped Israel build a back channel to Russia amid serious war,
although there was no real back channel that was proven to be but there was talks about it. Jeffrey Epste helped
Israel sell a surveillance state to Kotto Dvoir. So, Professor Jang, this is
what isn't being talked about. Uh, help us understand then the role of Israel in
all of this. Um, what is the true power dynamic, the true power relationship?
Why is it turning out like this? And why are these Epstein files so important to understanding all of this?
Um, so issue is a very complicated issue. Um, and again, I'm going to go on
a limb and um, give everyone a controversial take. The Jewish identity, the Jewish people
is a creation of empire. It's a construct of empire. So, I know this. So, let me slowly explain what's going
on and and and please be patient. Okay. So, um, the Jewish people, the the the
term Jews, uh, came from the Persian Empire. And I would argue that uh Israel
is a construct of the Persian Empire. Okay. So, um I know that in the Bible
um you know the Bible says that the Jews come from Abraham uh who lived like
4,000 years ago. But if you just look at the real history um Israel was a
creation of the Persian Empire. Why? Well, because if you look at a map
at that time in history, uh the Middle East was the wealthiest part of the world. You had Anatolia, you had me
Egypt, you had Mesopotamia, uh you had the Mediterranean and the Aian. And the
center of this world was the Levant. Whoever controlled the Levant controlled
the world. Um so uh Cyrus the great he had just conquered Babylon and he
discovered that there were these um captives from the former um state of
Judah. Uh these are the protojews and the policy for the Persians is
divide and rule. Okay. So um to create as much these instability in a border
area as much as possible as to maintain control. Right? Because if you if the region is unstable, the empire empire
has reason to exert control, but also much more importantly, you prevent
another power from arising within your borderlands. So um at this time in
history, this this would up the year 500 um common era. Um Judah and Samra were
pretty peaceful places. There were there were Jews, Israelites who had converted into the local polytheistic religion. At
this time in history, most mo most people in that area was polytheistic and people got along really really well.
They intermarried together. And then along comes this guy Ezra, okay? And he's the governor um um who is sent by
Persia in in order to recreate the Jewish identity. Okay? and and and he
immediately proclaims that if you're a Jewish man and you want to make be still
be Jewish, you must divorce your wife if you marry into a different religion.
Okay? And this creates a lot of conflict. This creates a lot of instability. Ezra is the one who gives
us the modern day Bible because he needs to construct this um issue identity.
Now, why is this important? This is important because this is the same trick. This is the same um um strategy
that the British will use when they become an empire. Okay. So at this time in history uh they since 1700 1800
Jerusalem the Levant is is is being controlled by the Ottoman Empire. Okay. So the Ottoman Empire is a great
geopolitical rival to the British. So how do you destabilize the Ottoman Empire? Well, you promote Zionism. Okay,
you promote the idea that this land is um the promised land that God promised
to Abraham and therefore the Jews have a right to it. And um at first this idea
wasn't very popular but then uh starting about 100 100 years ago uh with the
publication of uh theorell's book um fatherland uh in German calling for the
creation of a zionist state uh then it start to gain more and more traction.
Okay, so this is what we have to remember. Israel is a construct of empire in order to destabilize the
region and Israel has been doing doing a great job of that. Um, you know, before the arrival of of Israel, before the Sus
project, Jews in the Middle East got along really well with Muslims. In fact,
throughout history, it's the Christians that were mainly to blame for the persecution of Jews. The Muslims have
always been protective of Jews. So in 1492 when the Spaniards expelled the
Jews, it was the Ottoman Empire that took them in. Um the Jews um you know
climbed to position of power and authority within the Islamic caliphate. Uh they've always been well respected.
Um going back to the 1950s and the 1940s, uh the Jews were welcome in
Baghdad. They were welcome in Tran. They were welcome throughout the middle Middle Middle East. But uh the Zionist
project was is being fueled by anti-semitism and they need manpower. So these Zionists were conducting all these
terrorist attacks in Baghdad. The Jews no longer felt safe in Baghdad. So they start to immigrate to um uh to Israel.
So that's something that we have to keep in mind that Israel is the pitbull of
empire. It's a country of empire in order to destabilize the Middle East. And that's what Israel is today. uh
America is using Israel in order to destabilize the the Middle East in order to maint
so so so that's why we keep on hearing about Israel. You know uh Jeffrey Epstein has long
been considered an Israeli intelligence asset of some kind. Um I'm curious on
where that factors into all of this given uh his extensive involvement with
some of the most important people, most powerful people dictating US foreign policy, dictating empire um and of
course uh you know using channels like Israeli intelligence um in all of this.
Your thoughts? Look, Jeremy Epstein was definitely Mossad operative, but he was definitely a CI operative, and he could
have been operative for the Russians, for um uh the British. Okay? So, the way
that these spies work is that they're all they're all double agents, triple agents. Uh and that's why they're so effective because they're able to be a
nexus of different power power uh elites. So, so definitely Jeffrey
Epstein was a MSAD operative, but did did have loyalty to Israel? Maybe, maybe
not. Was he good friends with um uh Israel? Absolutely. But people like Jeffrey Epstein, they're all
psychopaths. They're they're first and foremost loyal to themselves. And they they use their power, they they use
their connections in order to amass more and more um personal power uh to
themselves. Uh look, the the reality is that uh America is turning against
Israel and um there's no stopping this. Um, and I think one thing that we'll see
over the next few years is just a surge in anti-inist settlement in in America.
And this Jeffrey Epstein is it will be a catalyst for for that. And and and you
know what uh American the American people are absolutely right in that uh their foreign policy should not be held
hostage. the foreign foreign policy should not be be dictated by any uh
foreign nation. Uh it makes absolutely no sense that Apac is not register
foreign agent in um uh America. So I think that one thing that Donald Trump
will do in the next couple years, possibly sooner, is that he will ask for
Apac to be registered as a foreign agent. And this will create a firestorm in American politics that we've never
seen before. You know, uh, Professor Jang, uh, as all
this drama around, you know, we have MAGA splits, Candace Owens, these types
moving away from Donald Trump around Epstein. Uh, as the emails came out, uh,
preh US President Donald Trump begged for a pardon for Benjamin Netanyahu.
uh uh he pardoned a major billionaire, a former Spurs owner, British billionaire
who you know was involved in insider trading. How do you think all of this factors into uh what's going on here in
the current atmosphere? Is is the U you call the US or America anti-vilization.
Is this anti-vilization going up in smoke? The American empire is definitely in
decline. So uh let me respond to uh this Trump Netanyahu relationship. So what
happened was that um after the Gaza ceasefire, Trump flew to Israel and give
a speech uh in the Kasset and um he he seen out two individuals. The first is
Benjamin Nanyahu and the second is Miriam Aden. And what he said um is that
hey guys we should give Benj Nanyahu a pardon man and then um he got and Na got
a got to send an ovation. You look at N's face at that moment uh he was mortified because what Trump was
implying uh is that Na Na is starting all these wars um around the Middle East
in order to not go to prison. Okay. So, so Trump made a point of embarrassing
Nanyahu in the Knesset in front of the entire uh Israeli people. Okay. Then he
also sent out Miriam Adlesen. Uh he he told a story of how he once had a conversation with Miriam Adlesen and he
asked her uh do you love America or do you love Israel more? And Miriam would
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And Trump said to the Knesset again um in front of the entire
nation uh in in front of these live cameras he said oh well this tells us that Marinism loves Israel more. Okay so
he's basically saying that Morason has traitor to America. This is not complimentary. Trump has is basically
trolling um his biggest supporter Miam Aden as well as Netanyahu who and and so
um I mean I if you are just watching what's happening you don't think that Nanyahu and Trump are friends in fact
you think that they absolutely hate each other so so it's a very complicated
um uh relationship and so what's really going on I think is that you have a
decline of empire um I mean as you're saying and when an empire declines what
often happens is the elites attack each other. Okay. So Peter Turchin um has a
theory called elite overp production and this is what explains the decline of empires that you have too many people
who want these too few positions of elite status in which they can extract
rent from everyone else. So another way a way of saying this is that everything that Trump is doing is ultimately to
target the deep state to reveal who they are. Okay? To reveal who they are, what
they want, and how they work so that the American people can rise up and
overthrow the deep state. Now maybe this is all just conspiracy.
But if we understood in this way that Israel is a pet project of the existing
deep state and Trump wants to over the deep state. So he wants to create all its problems for Israel. that can help
us understand a lot of what a lot of of what's going on because remember the
people who are most attacking Israel in the media Nick Fantes Kenneth Owens Park
Tucker Carlson they are they used to be adamant Trump supporters so why they
have a falling out um also remember that Kenos Owens be is blowing up on the
internet because of Charlie Kirk right and what she's saying what she's implying is that Israel
is um was responsible for the Charlie Kirk assassination because Charlie Kirk didn't want Trump to bomb Iran. Okay,
that's that that's what she's implying. So, a lot of sentiment is turning against Israel. Also remember that
what's happening right now is that Larry Ellison has bought Tik Tok uh which was u for the longest time one of those
weird platforms in which you can criticize the genocide in Gaza. his son
has bought um CBS Viacom and installed Barry Weiss, a very well-known Zionist
as uh editor-inchief of CBS News. Okay. So, this does not seem like Israel is
getting power in America. It seems more like desperation. It seems like more like they're being revealed. Um they're
they're being attacked and they uh feel as though they have no choice but to
defend themselves. So um it's almost like a fight orflight mentality. So we
are seeing I think the end of Zionism in America. I really think that these next
two to three years there'll be concerted attack against uh Zionism in America which implicates the deep state. Okay?
Because the deep state is first and foremost a Zionist um organization. The
deep the deep the deep state and Zionism are almost intermarried with with with each other. So if you attack Zionism,
you're also attacking the deep state as well. So I think that's that's what's happening. Would you say then based on your take
here that people like Candace Owens for example, their opposition to Trump,
which they say is because of Epstein and also because of Trump's inability to
stop the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. Would you say that those reasons
that they that people like her, Tucker Carlson have given are disingenuous? Like they it's not the stated reason um
that there really isn't a reason why they should be breaking from Trump. What's your take on that?
Yeah, I I think look uh emails tell us that journalists are political
operatives, right? So if you look at uh Michael Wolf, you look at Thomas Landon of New York Times, they were basically
acting like um um political strategist for Epstein. Okay. So you know for
someone like Kenneth Owens, Tucker Carlson, Nick Fantes to reach the level of fame and power that they have in
America, they need to be able to read the political winds properly. Okay? So,
I'm not saying that Donald Trump and Kenneth Owens talk on the phone and discuss strategy. They don't do that.
But Kenneth Owens has a read on Donald Trump. He has he has a read on his intentions. She reads the political
winds in America. She knows where the magnet base is going. And she positions herself in a position that allows her to
speak the truth in a way that is also political advantage to her. And that's why they're so successful because
they're able to have a six sense of where political winds are shifting and how to best position yourself in a
certain place that allows you that allows the wind to ride you to success.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean Tara Carlson's history, he has a history of being close to, if not an operative of the CIA,
especially during the years of the US dirty war in Nicaragua. So um that
history is never really spoken of. So for me you know uh while it's
understandable that uh these figures can play a positive role for especially
those who follow them in opposing things like Ukraine, Iran war, Gaza. Yeah.
Yeah, it wouldn't be a surprise to me if all that was was political winds because they jumped on it when things were going
south and that sentiment was already there even if they've built upon it. But please no I mean look to Carson his
father was CI operative right and he's trying to keep it secret for a long long time. Um I mean like I think in an
interview he once said you know I said that he he really doesn't know what his father does. Like how how do you not know what your father does like like
like like you know does you like you know Tos was for the longest time trying to pretend that his father was a journalist. Okay. So his father was a
CIA operative but also much more importantly he was very high up in the CIA. He was part of a major CI faction.
and sort of tin grew up in that sort of environment even today he's probably very close with the CIA and as you
mentioned in his in his 20s he once went he once went to Naaga and he uh and he
had this you know picture of a gun you know standing with CI offers and he was very proud of that when he interviewed
uh Putin Putin said to him hey uh I know that you once applied to the CIA and they rejected you they don't reject uh a
son of a CI operative um what what they probably what the probably said Taro is like, you know, you're probably more
useful to us if you worked as a journalist, right? You everyone he sort of operation mockingb bird um, you know,
a project to embed journalists into uh the media to better control, right? So
someone like um uh Bob Bernstein of um
uh the of of um of Watergate fame, I mean, sorry. Uh Bob Wart, I'm sorry. I'm
sorry. Sorry. Bob Wward, he is clearly clearly a CIA asset. If you just read
his books, if you look at his role in um Watergate, okay, this this guy who's
like in his mid20s, gradu from Yale, was probably in Skones,
joins the Navy, he's a naval intelligence officer. He quits that and he joins the Washington Post metro um
section. Guess what his first assignment is? It's Watergate. Who the hell does that? Who the hell
gets assigned Watergate as his first assignment? No reporting experience, no connections whatsoever. This guy gets
Watergate. So, um, the media, it's all CIA. I'm sorry, it's not all CIA, but
but but you know what I mean. Like like like a lot there's a lot of u media that's CIA.
I mean, Operation Mockingbird, right? I mean, that's that's a classic um classic reality that uh we need to
definitely fess up to. Well, before we close on the story and move on to a different one, Professor Jang, maybe
summarize uh how your research uh really
can help us explain this particular moment not only with Epstein but also this kind of crumbling of the Trump
administration and of course this uh larger problem of the US is uh declining
power. Um I mean the reality is that America is an
empire and never before in human history um has an empire done any good in this
world. Um so let me explain what I mean. If you look at historically the three
ways in which people get rich, okay, what are three major sources of wealth? Well, they are slavery. Okay, which
includes human trafficking, prostitution. It includes debt which includes gambling and finance. The last
thing is drugs um smuggling. So you look at the opium wars
in which basically uh Britain turned China into a slave state. Um that appar
apparatus never went away right because you need a very sophistic apparatus to run that sort of operation where you
enslave an entire nation using opium. That apparatus became the financial centers of the world. Hong Kong, uh,
Paris, New York, London. Um, so that's what finance is based on. It's all based
on money laundering for for for drugs. And that's what an empire is. An empire
um uh exercise power, creates wealth through these three uh uh major
mechanisms. So an empire is a nexus of organized crime, secret societies,
intelligence agencies, the most evil powerful people in the world. So that the American so so now that the American
empire is declining, we should be celebrating. Okay? Because uh hopefully there'll be less evil in the world um
because of the decline um of of empire. At the same time, what we do know is
that when empire declines, it never goes peacefully. Okay? It clings on the power
um in a way that could cause entire world to be destroyed. So that's what we're seeing today. That's why we're
seeing these wars all around all around the world right now.
Yeah. Well, you know, you've covered Iran in particular, that war that nearly
blew up into a world war. Some say the World War III is ongoing, but uh
Professor John, I want your comments on, you know, there are major escalations relating to Venezuela right now. And I
just want to pull up uh what uh Secretary of War Pete Hegsth had to say
about it. Recently announcing Operation Southern Spear, led by the Joint Task
Force Southern Spear and Southcom, the US Southern Command. This mission defends homeland, removes narot
terrorists from our hemisphere and secure hemisphere and secures our homeland from drugs killing our people. The western hemisphere is America's
neighborhood. We will protect it. So, sounds familiar. Sounds like the Monroe
Doctrine, Professor John. And then I just want to pull up um some of this buildup here. We have major US
destroyers coming off of uh the coast of Venezuela now even operating in
Venezuela's exclusive economic zone just 50 kilometers from the capital Karakas.
Um 20 boats have been struck uh in the recent period by the short
administration killing dozens and uh many and and governments like Colombia
saying that those who survived and came back to shore and were you know uh
legally tried and they weren't they weren't archetterists they were or naroterists whatever that is they were
you know poor laborers. Professor Jung, talk about this uh coming war. It's uh what's your
assessment of it? Where does it fit within the overall context? Maybe even if you want to bring in game theory, your assessment of where this fits. It
it it reminds me a lot of Iran to be honest, but but please your thoughts. Right. So we have to remember that this
uh Venezuela affair it comes right after Trump's meeting with Putin in anguage
Alaska in mid August. So after that meeting uh Trump starts to deploy uh
destroyers towards Venezuela and as you say there's just there's just gradual but very forceful buildup of naval power
right now uh off the coast of Venezuela. Um, so that's very curious. Why would
that happen? Why would why would it that you know Trump is trying to negotiate peace in Ukraine? He's met with Putin
and we can assume that there'll be more meetings. But um what's happened instead
of moving towards peace is that Trump has um deployed destroyers to Venezuela.
But also much more importantly, we see a Russian um breakthrough in Ukraine. So
the entire Ukrainian front lines are collapsing. It seems very much that NATO will have no choice but to come into the
war at some point in order to shore up the front lines of of Ukraine to prevent
a a complete implosion. Um so this is all very curious. Now I don't know why
this happening but I do find the timing very suspicious. Okay, that's point one.
Point two is that no one has figured out why this is happening. Okay, so we can
say it's for oil, but look, the reality is this. The reality is that if you're America and you need oil, you can buy it
from Venezuela really, really cheap. It is much more problematic. It is much
more expensive, much more consequential for you to go invade a country to steal its oil than to just, you know, buy off
the elite and grab the elite and steal its oil. Okay? Uh that's what America's been doing for the past 100 years. It's
worked out really well. So why would you go invade Venezuela? Also the oil issues is problematic because
um oil is actually pretty capital intensive to refine in uh Venezuela. You
need a lot of pretty uh high-grade technology. It's very uh capital intensive. It's labor intensive. It's
it's it's it's it's cost prohibit prohibitive and that's why you know Venezuela has not been has not risen to
the ranks of great oil powers in the way that Saudi Arabia has. So, I know that
Venezuela has the world's um um largest oil reserves, but it's pretty hard to access, pretty expensive to access it.
So, the oil thing doesn't really make sense. Now, some people say, well, it's just geopolitical in that, you know,
Russia is about to win the war and um Ukraine and so America needs to show off
its hijgemony by beating up a uh beat up Venezuela. Well, yeah, I understand that
argument, but it doesn't really make sense either because like who would take you seriously if you go invade
Venezuela. Also, um, remember that Venezuela, it's mountainous, so it's
very hard to invade and occupy and defend Venezuela. So, you could go and
attack Venezuela, that's fine, but what does that really get you? And also it could turn into quagmire where you have
you have um troops in Venez Venezuela and they are attacked by uh by guerrilla
warfare by it's asymmetrical warfare. So from a military perspective um attacking
Venezuela doesn't really make any sense. It really doesn't get you um anything.
Okay. Um also if you attack Venezuela you're going to create a um dumpster
fire in Latin America because you still have to deal with Cuba. you still have to deal with um Nicaragua. There are
lots of enemies that the United States has to deal with in Latin America. Latin America is a huge place. Do you really want to be you really want to send
millions of soldiers to occupy and colonize um Latin America? So, it doesn't really make any sense what's
happening. So, let me offer you an explanation, okay? And I I don't know if this um explanation makes any sense, but
I'm going to offer you my explanation and and we can just wait and see what happens to see if this theory makes any
sense. Okay? So, the Trump administration says that they're doing this to stop uh the flow of drugs into
America. And everyone's like, well, that's because most of the drugs is coming from Mexico or Canada. It's not
coming from Venezuela. This makes no sense. Okay, but let's just assume that
what Trump says has validity. That in fact they are targeting drugs. Well, why
would they do that? Um, so a theory is that this is part again of the elite
civil war going on in America right now between the nationalists and the globalists. Remember I just said that an
empire engages in drug smuggling as a way to generate wealth for its elite
members. And drug smuggling is a very important component of the global
financial economy. Right? because uh city of London, Wall Street, Hong Kong, Dubai, uh they're all designed really to
launder money. So when you attack drug flow uh when you stop drug flow,
that creates a lot of problems for the elite. So okay, given that we have this
theory, how can we test it out? Well, if we if this theory um uh makes any
sense, then one, I don't think United States will actually attack Venezuela.
The point of this huge naval presence is actually disrupt the um the the the the
trade the drug smulling going on. Okay. Second is that I think Trump may turn
his attention to the Mexican cartels because that's where the real money is, right? these Mexican drug cartels that are really controlled by the CIA and um
the uh global deep state and the financial elite of the world. So I think
that I I cannot possibly imagine the United States launching a ground invasion of Venezuela. It makes it would
make absolutely no sense. I could foresee though operations against Mexican cartels. Um um so so so that's
what I think and I could be completely wrong. Okay, I'm just speculating because like I actually no idea what's going on. Well, let's keep up with this.
You know, the the Trump administration has said they're pondering land strikes, right? They're they're pondering all
sorts of options on the table. Um, but they've been doing this for quite a long time. I mean, we're talking about weeks
now, weeks and weeks and weeks, foreshadowing, foreshadowing. Um what do
you make then of uh what some have said is kind of another attempt to uh knock
off another chess piece uh uh uh in this larger building multi-olar world because
Venezuela's relationship to Russia to China to Iran is pretty strong. Um and
uh even Venezuela's president Nicholas Maduro has been talking a lot about this. Uh what's your thoughts on this?
and then we can get into some of the consequences after this. I have something I want to show you, but please
first this. Yeah. So, um
I you know I I hate to say this but I don't think American policy makers
America American foreign policy elite they think that far ahead. I think the problem with Washington DC right now is
that it's become very bureaucratic, very corrupt. So, it's always like short-term interest. In other words, let's not
think about how the United States benefits. Let's ask ourselves how a certain faction of American policy elite
benefits from an attack uh against Venezuela. Now, we know that if America
were to attack Iran, well, this would benefit a lot of political factions within the US deep state. Okay? So, you
have the Zionists, um you have um the financial elite who want to better
control trade in the Middle East. you have these oil interests, you have the military-industrial complex. So I I
don't know which faction, the American foreign policy elite would actually benefit from a war in Venezuela. So that
so so so that's that's how I see the world. I mean like another way of saying this is the conflict within nation
states is far more intense uh far more violent and far more important significant than the conflict between
nation states. Okay. So I think that what's happening in Venezuela, it's more it's driven more by conflict within
Washington DC as opposed to geopol geopolitical um calculations against Russia and uh Iran and China.
Now uh I want to show you something for Sir Jang because there are major consequence to all these wars. I know
you've uh talked a lot about the consequences of what will happen in a possible um war uh uh with Iran and
Venezuela seems to have some of these elements to it, especially this point
that you made about uh how uh people uh you know the the a military occupation
or an invasion could have major consequences on how people view uh you
know the United States in this region and I want to show this. This is a video of Nicholas Maduro as there is literally
basically a bounty on his head. The United States is actively attempting to
uh regime change him which often means kill or uh kidnap. Here is Nicholas
Maduro. 13,000 US wrong video. Let's let let me remove
that. Um, here we go. This is why Streamyard has become absolutely unusable. Here we go.
What is your message to the people of the United States? President to unite for the peace of the continent.
No more endless wars. No more unjust wars. No more Libya. No more
Afghanistan. Do you have a message for President Trump? My message is yes. Peace. Yes. Peace.
And it's so interesting, Professor John, because a lot of people who are pushing, especially the I will call them the MAGA astroturf uh uh section of the uh social
media class, they've been saying, "Look how weak he looks when he's in the
middle. I mean, he he has a bounty on his head. The CIA has announced that they have operations inside of Venezuela, and he's walking around
amongst people saying, "No war. No, we don't want war. We don't want this to be
another Libya which had a big blowback effect. Talk about what could be the blowback effect here because uh Pete
Hexath is talking about almost like Monroe Doctrine 2.0 on steroids. I don't
know how that would go down in Latin America should this occur. What's your take? Listen. Um, if we assume that
Donald Trump is interested in igniting a civil war in America, if Donald Trump
were interested in accelerating the collapse of American empire, then that helps us explain exactly why he's doing
what he's doing, right? Because as you say, when you send off this massive naval force and threaten the people of
Venezuela, what they will do is they will rally behind their leader. they and
this leader will become almost invincible. Now, but not only that, but
many Latin American countries will rally um um and support Venezuela as well.
You're almost like uniting all of Latin America against the US Empire. So, why
doing this? I don't know. Okay. But like one data point is remember like um during the Canadian elections um Mark
Carney uh was um the liberal candidate and Donald
Trump said hey you know we should make Canada our 51st state and he he was
joking about annexing Canada and Mark Carney who was part he's leader of the
Liberal Party and Liberal Party has been in power in Canada for like 10 years and they were extremely disliked. Okay, Canadians just hate the
Liberal Party. But because Trump was saying this crap, okay, he's saying, you know, like, you know, let's annex Canada. Carney surged in the polls and
he's still in power. The Liberal Party is still in power. So, you're like like
either this guy Donald Trump is the dumbest guy in the world or he's the smartest guy in the world. Either like
the guy is completely incompetent or he's playing like five dimensional dimensional chess, right? So if you just
assume that Trump wanted to instigate a civil war and he wants to uh accelerate
the collapse of the American empire, then what he's doing around the world around the world makes perfect sense, right?
So I'm sorry. No. Yeah. No, no. I mean uh you know it's it is really
interesting because with Venezuela too, there is this uh other element as well. Marco Rubio, for example, having huge
political connections to those who hate the Venezuelan government, who hate the Cuban government, who hate any
government that espouses any sovereignty at all. Uh they hate uh Marco Rubio and
and the people in Miami. Um so there's a lot of elements here. I'm curious on uh
uh where it fits within also this larger picture of the US as an empire not
really able to get what it wants. Do you find that it could be that Venezuela is simply being calculated here as an
easier target than let's say an Iran which failed dramatically in June of
2025. Uh the three plus year proxy war in Ukraine not going their way. I mean,
China, forget about it. Uh, you predicted here that there would be a a
day tant of a kind. And right now, it seems there is at at the very least,
while there's still aggressive, you know, I don't think we can ever say the US empire will not be aggressive toward
countries it doesn't like. But, um, on this trade issue, it had decay pretty badly. And we see we see a pause there.
So, where do you think this all fits? Look, look, you're absolutely right in
that if America wanted to invade Venezuela, it would take two weeks. Uh
the American naval power is overwhelming. Uh they could completely destroy all Venezuela's air defenses
very quickly. Um but where what does that get you really? It just makes you a parass state, right? The entire world is
would be disgusted by your actions. China, Venez uh China, Iran, Russia we
would be much more popular. They would come together. They would coales more in response to uh the violence uh the
random violence of American empire. Uh global opinion would completely churn against uh America. Breaks would be a
lot stronger. The Iranian people would be much more prepared and united uh in case America were to attack. Also, you
couldn't possibly hold Venezuela because uh the Venezuelan people would fight for the freedom. They would die for the
freedom. You would all all this guilla warfare. It be it' be like another Vietnam. So what? So what what so yeah,
you can destroy Venezuela and you can replace the government. You can kill Maduro. It's not a problem. It's it's
very easy for the American power to do this. But but but it puts you in a very very difficult position. Um and it it
becomes a quagmire. And not only that, but like once you do Venezuela, then you're kind of stuck doing Cuba and Nicaragua
um and it just becomes um a a cascading effect. Uh and and the American Empire
just needs to occupy all of South America and Latin America. And maybe it will. Okay. But if it were to do that,
then the American Empire would collapse very quickly. uh because one uh America
doesn't have the manpower, the resources, the political will, the manufacturing capacity to actually invade all of America and to occupy it.
That's number one. Number two is the American people would would rise up and revolt against you because they're the
ones being sent to make these sacrifices. They're the ones who have to pay these taxes to fund these forever wars. Um and three is that you if you
can if you were to do this, you'd be isolated from the rest of the world. uh Europe, Russia, uh Africa, Asia would
see America as a prior state and they would they would basically impose trade embargos against America. America would
lose its authority, its empire in the world. So, it's be counterproductive to
go invade Venezuela. I'm not saying they won't do it. Um but I'm just saying that if it were to do this, then the
consequences would be dire. Yeah. I they definitely would be dire.
I'm hearing something like there are millions of Venezuelans uh who are being
armed right now to defend their country if there is an invasion. I mean that's
that alone should give pause because u we've already seen how bombing right
just bombing a country like for example Iran uh that seemed to be more theater
because there wasn't really any possibility to do more uh with Venezuela. You're talking about a
country that's right smack in the middle of the backyard for the United States. And that means every other country is
going to be wondering what happens to us if we don't do what the United States
likes. Uh, and does that mean we need to find another path? Uh, what do you think about that?
Look, look, look, look. If you bomb Venezuela, Venezuela's not going to sit
back. They're going to they're going to strike back and they might, you know, destroy um a a US destroyer. And so
it'll be slow mission creep. It'll be provocation. the United States would find itself embroiled in a war. You're
absolutely right in that if the United States were attack Venezuela, all of South America would unite and rally
behind Venezuela because they would know that we're next. Brazil, Argentina, Chile, not just sit back and wait uh for
America, American Empire to come after them. U because they know that once they go after Venezuela, they would have
broken a consensus. They would have broken an understanding that's lasted for hundreds of years. uh you know the
moral doctrine yeah the moral doctrine says that the west he hemisphere belongs to America but at the same time the
moral doctrine implies that America is a protector of the western hemisphere uh
and so it doesn't go around and invade the countries of the western western hemisphere if America were to actually
launch invasion of Venezuela and occupy the country then that would compel response from all South America
yeah and in all of South America is not necessarily aligned here. I mean, we have many different situations with
every country. Um, and as it stands, that wouldn't be the case, but things
change a lot when uh there's a major US uh intervention. Look, if you threaten a
people's national sovereignty, if you if you destroy their dignity, um their
freedom, their sense of independence, they will respond violently. Uh we've seen this throughout history. Uh you
know, you go back and look at Vietnam. Uh before uh the invasion of Vietnam, uh
before the American presence in Vietnam, we couldn't possibly expect the sort of courageous response uh from the
Vietnamese people. And remember like it was not really the North Vietnamese, it
was not really the Chinese Soviet Union that that defeated the Americans. It was the Vietnamese people themselves that defeated the American military. Why?
Because they love freedom. And all people um are like that. Yeah. And they were ready to be done. I
mean, they kicked out the French. They had elected a president. They had a government. Um you know, right after
World War II, they they had it. I think it was August 45. Uh and then it wasn't
too long afterward that they no longer had it, you know, with the US, the UN coming in, the US, the French, etc. Um
French at the back end helping the US. Professor Jo, my final question to you then is where are we on this World War
III situation, right? Because that's really where all of this appears to be
going. Um, there are bigger players that the US, it seems, can't really touch
right now, or at least can't touch in the way they want to. Pardon the uh reference given all the Epstein talk
we've been having, but they can't they can't do anything with them to a significant degree, affect an outcome.
Um but where are we in this uh World War III nexus so to speak?
Yeah. So um I would say the major flash point in the world right now is what's
happening in Ukraine. The reason why is that the Ukraine front lines has collapsed. Um Russia has had multiple
breakthroughs this past week. Um the city of Pvos uh has fallen uh which
allows Russia to control the Damas region. Um and the Damas is
important because it is the agricultural industrial heartland of Ukraine. So in
effect Ukraine has lost the war and there's really no way for Ukraine to
come back. Um they lost anywhere between one to two million uh fighting age men
in this war. uh millions of Ukrainians have fled the country and they they will never come back. The UK the the
landscape government is plagued uh with corruption. Um so there's um uh news
that this past week um someone who was very close to Zilanski has fled uh
Ukraine for Israel and he was notorious for being corrupt. And that's that's not
just one person. It's entire regime. Okay, you've got these dozens of high level military officers in Ukraine that
have benefited tremendously from corruption in the war. So, Ukraine is
lost. Uh the war is lost. The problem is that if Ukraine is lost, if NATO admits
to losing this war, then the then there's a threat that there'll be a political earthquake throughout Europe
because uh NATO and Europe has invested heavily in this war. They expect they
literally expect that Ukraine will win this war and they can just collect reparations from Russia. uh they froze
in $22 billion of Russian assets in European banks. Um so they cannot afford
to lose the war. They cannot explain to their people how for the past four years
um in the media um there's this narrative that Ukraine is about to march all the way to Moscow and then suddenly
oops sorry we were lying to you. We were gaslighting you sorry we've lost the war. So they believe the lead in in
Europe cannot withstand a loss. the Lencian government would could not possibly withstand a a peace. Um so we
can expect this war to um accelerate. We can expect NATO to send in more forces
to shore up uh the defenses of Ukraine. Remember that uh NATO officers, NATO
special forces, NATO weaponry already in Ukraine, but we can expect that over the
next few months these volunteers, okay, volunteers we sent to Ukraine to fight
um with the Ukrainian army. The Ukrainian army has collapsed. Okay. Um you're talking about like 100 thousands
of of desertions. Um so uh what I'm watching and I think what everyone
should be watching is what happens in in Ukraine for the next two months. Um the
real concern is that NATO involves itself in a war and if it does that it
cannot extrogate itself from the war. It it's all or nothing. The other thing that we have to remember is that the
western model of fighting a war is through debt financing. Okay. So like
the example is you look at the noonic wars right where basically the bank of England was financing all these European
powers to fight uh France and uh that led to like seven wars. Why? Because
even though Napoleon was defeating all his enemies, the Bank of England could not afford to omit defeat because it
would mean that the entire debt would be wiped out and the entire nation of
England would would be wiped out. So it's all Ponzi scheme. Europe has invested heavily in this Ponzi scheme uh
in this war in Ukraine and if it ever emits defeat then the entire Pon scheme
collapses and all of Europe collapses as well. So we can see a so we can expect a massive escalation of war in Ukraine
over the next few months and next year. Well that seems to contradict uh Donald
Trump's promise to end the war and you know forget 24 hours at all. Uh I don't
know if you saw and we're you know we're about the at the end here. The uh uh the United States is considering deporting
Ukrainians and Ukraine is saying they're going to use those Ukrainians at the front lines. It's an it's an absolute
embarrassment really uh for Ukrainians who have been living in the US and you know these Ukrainians are said to have
committed crimes, immigration status, what whatever. But if they're deported and then maybe we'll never hear about
them again, but they're deported. The Ukrainian the government Zalinski, they're all saying,
"Yeah, we need men for the front line. I I mean, this is this is how bad it's getting." Look, look, look, the reality is that
there's a high possibility of a revolution uh in Ukraine. There's a high possibility of coup d'eta in uh in in
Ukraine because the military feels betrayed by Zilinski and the Americans.
the Europeans. Look, the reality is that we should have been in this war in the first place, right? Putin and then h had
a deal like three years ago. Then Boris Johnson flies into KF and says, "Hey man, don't worry about Russia. We will
finance you. We'll give you all the weaponry you need to defeat. Russia's a paper tiger. You fight them. Uh Russia
will collapse. You'll march to Moscow. You'll work for Putin and then you'll be the hedgeimon of of Europe." So all
these promises, all these guarantees were made to the Ukrainian people. Ukrainian people have um lost millions
of people in this war. They've lost their country. They lost their nation state. If there were ever a peace, I
guarantee you that elements of the Ukrainian military would stage political assassinations against people like
Zilinski. Surprising hasn't happened. All righty. Professor Jung, this was a great
conversation. I want to make sure that everyone knows that your substack is in the video description. Uh before we head
out of here, uh I also want to let everyone know to hit that like button before you head out of here. And lastly,
I want you all to know that I do have Mark Labota on 2 PM Eastern tomorrow.
So, I'm putting that link in the chat right now and the video description and
it will be public right after this show is over. So we will be talking uh even
more deeply and even more with more uh time on what's happening in Ukraine. Uh
so that is going to be there now. That show is in the video description. Um
so Professor J, anything you want to say final words before we head out of here? No, no, it's always fun talking you
Danny and and hope to do do this again and uh Yeah, of course. I you know and I'm this is confused as everyone uh right now as
to what's happening. Okay, but again I say that if you just work with the assumption that Trump for whatever reason wants to is get a civil war in
America and wants to accelerate the collapse of the American empire a lot of things make more sense.
Professor Jung, thank you so much everyone. We're going to head out of here together. Hit the like button before you go. Um and be sure to catch
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Donald Trump ‘Blowing Bubba’ Message in Epstein Emails Under Scrutiny
By Kate Plummer, Senior US News Reporter
Newsweek
Published Nov 14, 2025 at 12:08 PM EST
Nov 14, 2025 at 01:44 PM EST
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-b ... y-11046836

An email in the Jeffrey Epstein files that references U.S. President Donald Trump "blowing Bubba" has attracted scrutiny on social media.

On Wednesday, U.S. lawmakers released more than 20,000 pages of documents connected to Epstein, a convicted sex offender who died by suicide in a New York jail in 2019 while awaiting sex trafficking charges.

Some of the documents mentioned Trump, including one from Epstein's brother, Mark, which references photos of Trump "blowing Bubba." "Bubba" is a nickname of former president Bill Clinton, but Mark Epstein told Newsweek the individual was not Clinton. He did not provide any additional details about the identity of “Bubba” or the meaning of the emails.

Newsweek reached out to the White House by email to comment on this story outside of normal business hours.

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President Donald Trump speaks with reporters in the Cabinet Room of the White House, November 7, 2025, in Washington. | (AP Photo/Evan Vucci, File)

Why It Matters

Files related to Epstein continue to cause problems for the Trump administration, as bipartisan groups have called for greater transparency in the case and the further publication of documents and evidence in the government's possession.

Trump has consistently denied any wrongdoing in connection with Epstein and has said their friendship ended in the early 2000s. But the recent release of thousands of documents has brought fresh scrutiny to the president's relationship with Epstein.

What To Know

In an email sent in March 2018, Mark Epstein told Jeffrey Epstein to ask Steve Bannon, Trump's former chief strategist, if Russian President Vladimir Putin has "the photos of Trump blowing Bubba."

“You and your boy Donnie can make a remake of the movie Get Hard,” Mark Epstein wrote.

Newsweek also reached out to Bannon and the Kremlin by email to comment on this story outside of normal business hours.

Posts on social media about the email have since gone viral, with people questioning what the email means.

One user wrote: "Who is Bubba, and why did Trump blow him?"

Call to Activism, an account with over 1.1 million followers, wrote: "WTF: In one of the leaked emails, Mark Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein’s brother suggests to ask Steve Bannon if Putin has 'the photo of Trump blowing Bubba,' to which Epstein replied, 'and I thought- I had tsuris,' which is Yiddish for troubles."

Trump is also referenced in other documents, including in emails between Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell in which Epstein called Trump "that dog that hasn't barked." In an email to author Michael Wolff, Epstein said Trump "knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop."

Democrats on the House Oversight Committee later released additional emails said to show Epstein's correspondence with former Trump adviser Steve Bannon and former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers.

What People Are Saying

President Donald Trump wrote on Truth Social in response to the newly released documents: "The Democrats are trying to bring up the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax again because they'll do anything at all to deflect on how badly they've done on the Shutdown, and so many other subjects. Only a very bad, or stupid, Republican would fall into that trap.

"The Democrats cost our Country $1.5 Trillion Dollars with their recent antics of viciously closing our Country, while at the same time putting many at risk—and they should pay a fair price. There should be no deflections to Epstein or anything else, and any Republicans involved should be focused only on opening up our Country, and fixing the massive damage caused by the Democrats!"

House Oversight Committee Ranking Member Robert Garcia, a California Democrat, said in a statement: "The more Donald Trump tries to cover up the Epstein files, the more we uncover. These latest emails and correspondence raise glaring questions about what else the White House is hiding and the nature of the relationship between Epstein and the President."

What Happens Next

Soon, the House of Representatives will vote on whether to publicly release the full set of Epstein-related government records after a petition to force a vote surpassed the required 218-signature threshold on Wednesday.