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I am now being contacted by private security firms with warnings for my safety as a hot bed of threats against me are being fueled and egged on by the most powerful man in the world.
The man I supported and helped get elected.
Aggressive rhetoric attacking me has historically led to death threats and multiple convictions of men who were radicalized by the same type rhetoric being directed at me right now.
This time by the President of the United States.
As a woman I take threats from men seriously.
I now have a small understanding of the fear and pressure the women, who are victims of Jeffrey Epstein and his cabal, must feel.
As a Republican, who overwhelmingly votes for President Trump‘s bills and agenda, his aggression against me which also fuels the venomous nature of his radical internet trolls (many of whom are paid), this is completely shocking to everyone.
My phone is blowing up with constant amazing support. I’m so thankful!
The Political Industrial Complex and the toxic violent nature of American politics must end.
Our country is worth saving and it can only be done if we pull together and save ourselves.
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President Trump just attacked me and lied about me. I haven’t called him at all, but I did send these text messages today. Apparently this is what sent him over the edge.
The Epstein files.
And of course he’s coming after me hard to make an example to scare all the other Republicans before next weeks vote to release the Epstein files.
It’s astonishing really how hard he’s fighting to stop the Epstein files from coming out that he actually goes to this level.
But really most Americans wish he would fight this hard to help the forgotten men and women of America who are fed up with foreign wars and foreign causes, are going broke trying to feed their families, and are losing hope of ever achieving the American dream.
That’s what I voted for.
I have supported President Trump with too much of my precious time, too much of my own money, and fought harder for him even when almost all other Republicans turned their back and denounced him.
But I don’t worship or serve Donald Trump.
I worship God, Jesus is my savior, and I serve my district GA14 and the American people.
I remain the same today as I’ve always been and I will continue to pray this administration will be successful because the American people desperately deserve what they voted for.
For me, I remain America First and America Only!!!
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Andrew Lownie joins Joanna Coles to examine wild new reporting that Jeffrey Epstein tried to hire a British sniper to kill Prince Andrew — a story now echoed by two separate sources. Joanna presses into the fever-dream paranoia that surrounded Epstein in his final years and the ripple effects now hitting the palace. Lownie, author of the bombshell book ‘Entitled: The Rise and Fall of the House of York,’ explains why, if true, this plot reframes Epstein’s reach and the danger surrounding everyone in his orbit. And Joanna ends by asking the blunt question lingering under all of it: what else was Epstein willing to do that we still don’t know?
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Trump and Epstein. They're broken. Contact. That Epstein was making threats to expose Trump.
Trump was concerned about that. Epstein thought he might be given a pardon protected by Trump. And that might explain, the story of Epstein's death.
I'm John Nichols, this is the Daily Beast podcast. And today we are talking to the British historian Andrew Loney,
whose remarkable book entitled The Rise and Fall of the House of Yorks really began the unraveling of
Andrew, formerly known as Prince Andrew, now Andrew Loney has, because he's been inundated with new information, started a Substack.
I signed up to it, and I urge you to it's extremely compelling. But he has two outrageous allegations
this weekend that we're going to completely unpack. And I have to say, when I read them, I couldn't quite believe them.
I wasn't sure if they were true. They both involve, of course, Jeffrey Epstein. And we know that Jeffrey Epstein's friendship with Prince Andrew
was part of the reason for Andrew's fall from grace. Anyway, you don't need me to tell you about them.
We're going to talk to Andrew about them, and I don't think you're going to want to look away. So let's get into it.
Andrew, I can't believe how much has happened since we last talked. And it was only, I think three weeks ago.
And you have in your new Substack, two absolutely explosive allegations, which we are going to unpack.
And when I say explosive, they really are. They really are. We will get to them in a minute.
But what I wanted you to do first was give us an update with where we are. We have some embarrassing emails of Prince Andrew coming out
from the Epstein trove, the emails that came out last week. But but where is Prince Andrew right now?
Has he left Royal Lodge and what are the developments since we last spoke when he just lost his title of Prince?
Well, I mean, what I'm hearing, he doesn't seem too concerned. He feels he's a free man now. He's saying he's going to go on dating apps and he's going to go on dating apps.
Really. And you know, he's still in Royal Lodge. They still haven't haven't opened all the present, all the, the parcels that Sir Ferguson ordered and hadn't open to self.
So, I think they're not going to go up to Sandringham till after the New Year.
I'm clearly when all the royal family have left, and I'm not totally convinced he will go to Sandringham.
I there's suspects that he may go somewhere else. We've got, a prosecution being brought by Republic.
We have calls from, former head of Royal security, and I was saying that he should be investigated both for sexual and financial irregularities.
So he's clearly not out of the woods. I mean, there's been a lot of speculation about whether he might go to the Middle East,
a lot of speculation about what Sarah Ferguson is going to do. Will she go to Switzerland? Portugal? Will she have a look at the tower in London?
She's been it's been said that she's going to promote herself as a, a speaker for empowerment and, positivity.
I don't know how that. Well, that's going to go. Empowerment. How is she a speaker for empowerment?
She was being funded by the world's most notorious pedophile.
Well, she is a woman, you know, with her own, logic.
But she is a survivor. She she she's been, you know, she's been a, you know, pretty much,
you know, a broken spirit. So particularly in 2010 when she was caught selling access to Andrew
and she came back, she went on Oprah, and people gave her the benefit of the doubt that she had she had repented.
And I think she's going to try this again. I don't think many people think that she's, a busted flush.
So, it's a lot of it's up in the air. I mean, actually, tensions between the King and the Prince of Wales over how this is handled.
The king's authority, I think, has been a bit diminished by the fact that he didn't act sooner and more ruthlessly.
As you say, there are these lines coming out, Andrew fro from the Epstein disclosures showing him to being panicking.
Really? When the story of Jeffrey broke. Of course, that kind of goes against the conventional line
that he was pushing that, you know, he didn't know her, and and he didn't know what this was all about. But of course, it confirms what I found my research and other people have written about.
For those of us who haven't gone through the emails in as much depth as you have,
can you tell us exactly how he did react when it first became clear
the allegations were that he'd slept with Virginia Giuffre?
Yeah, well, basically keep me out of the story.
And he went to PR people, PR people to undermine Giuffre. He he tried to get information about up through his police
protection officer using his contacts with the FBI. It was all about damage limitations and about distancing himself
from the story. And, you know, he is only one of three many, revelations that have come out with the disclosures, in the files.
We've got more, I think, imminent. I mean, interesting that Trump has now kind of changed his tune and is happy for the material to be released.
So I would say I'm not sure if he's happy for the material to be released. He realizes that he wasn't going to win the battle to keep them suppressed.
So he sort of leant into the rebels in the Republican Party, I would say.
I think it's more of a political maneuver, rather than he's happy for them to be released. Absolutely right. You know, he's he's he sees that, you know, that there's new advantage in him
trying to prevent the other release, as he has done up till now. And, and he's having to go with the mood.
And I mean, thank goodness we're seeing this stuff. I think again, we've seen the publication, of course, of Virginia Giuffre, his
own book. Ghosted by Amy Wallace, which has been well received and been a bestseller
and I think has again changed the Da for a lot of people. It really brings home how awful the situation was
and how entitled these people felt they were. So, as you say, there have been a lot of developments.
And I think there will be more. I mean, I think more people will come forward. Now, I'm certainly finding from my own research that, people are coming forward, but.
Objection. Officers, former members of staff, ambassadors who I think are appalled by what they've discovered and learned,
and I think also want to be on the right side of history here. And clearly, that's what's motivated Trump to a certain extent as well.
And there've been lots of accusations. Tina Brown made it over the weekend that the Queen really enabled
Andrew's behavior. Do you think that's fair?
Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, I was vilified when I said this in August, because
the Queen, of course, was a saint and wouldn't have done anything like that. So it's great that, you know, people like Tina Brown are saying these things.
It's but it's exactly what I found. I mean, we know that attempts were made to suppress this story.
ABC television were were threatened. Basically, if they went ahead, they would lose access to the Royals.
I know from talking to ambassadors and others that they were basically sent away with a flea in their ear when they tried to bring,
the concerns to the Queen and her staff about Andrew. And of course, every time he seemed to be involved
in some scandal, the Queen seemed to either, I've taken with her to church or give them some new honor.
So I think it was pretty apparent at the time. Just no one was prepared to say it, and,
and there was even a leak in the Sunday Times the other day, I think, by the palace, but trying to basically put the blame on the Queen for not basically sorting
this problem out and handing a time bomb to to King Charles.
So there's a lot of buck passing going on at the moment in your book, entitled
The Rise and Fall of the House of you, which we've talked about, extensively on this podcast.
You talk about a weekend in Thailand where Prince Andrew went through 40 prostitutes.
I mean, subsequent reporting has also found that he appeared to have prostitutes coming into Buckingham Palace
with no security clearance checks whatsoever.
No. Absolutely nothing. Paul Page has gone public on that.
He was one of the policemen on the North gate. And I think this isn't a this was of concern to the police
because there were always people who didn't know who they were. It was pretty clear that they were escorts.
And, I mean, there were lots and lots and coming in, and, we've got lots of stories of escorts from in Hong Kong
who took over the top floor of the Landmark Hotel and entertained escorts there on, I think, a trade mission.
So, everyone was turning a blind eye to, to his activities, which is extraordinary.
And I think one of the things that hasn't really come out
yet is the whole national security element to the story. We've had hints of, alleged Chinese spies, but there are a lot of spies
running around this story. You were to seek. Could is easy to see that both Andrew and Sarah Ferguson were very easy ways into to.
They were very vulnerable because of their greed. And, they did have some very useful context.
Yeah, it's absolutely fascinating. And of course, greed does make people vulnerable. And we've seen that with members of the family time and again.
[b][size=120]So let's move on to Andrew. Two remarkable allegations in your Substack,
which I couldn't believe I was reading. The second one, which will come on to
is that Jeffrey Epstein was actually killed.
But but let's look at the first one, which sort of leads to the second one, which is that Jeffrey Epstein had had enough of Prince Andrew and Fergie.
He was concerned that they would perhaps spill his secrets and that he had hired, a hitman
to basically, to remove them.
Yes. I mean, this comes from two sources.
One one, one in Paris, and another one in Palm Beach, who were very close to Epstein.
I mean, you know, Epstein said all sorts of things. We can't always believe everything he said, but, I think he was getting very nervous.
He thought particularly Sarah Ferguson might spill the beans on him. And this was a precautionary measure, I suppose.
Now, how far he went down the line of trying to get more details about, in terms, the sniper. But the sniper was, British Special forces trained.
And had he actually had conversations with this particular sniper? I mean, it sounds so.
Conspiracy theorist. I find it hard to believe. But then so much about this story is hard to believe.
Exactly. No. And I was very nervous about putting it up because clearly, you know, it's an easy way of undermining my credibility.
So we'll see what comes. I mean, we do know that Sarah was was very concerned. I mean, that was the reason that she kind of kept in with Epstein because she was scared of him.
And I think this this could have been just a threat. It could have been just as paranoia. As I said, I haven't been able to follow up the story to find any more detail.
Though I've been told I will be given the name of a sniper. But, it is an extraordinary story, but it's,
you know, as you say, that the story is is bizarre. Anyway. And, we're dealing with people who are not necessarily in the realms of reality.
If you are a sniper actively in the special services in the UK, the idea of being commissioned by an American to kill members
of the British royal family, I mean, how on earth would he get away with it?
I mean, it just seems remarkable.
Well, I do think this was a serving member of Special Forces as someone who being trained in as a British Special Forces person,
you know, I'm just thinking of the update of the Freddie Forsyth's novel The Day of the Jackal, and it is not, I think, than the update.
It is about an ex-British Special Forces person who is basically a gun for her. So in some ways that isn't that odd.
It's interesting that I've got, you know, that's come from two different sources, but, you know, often that happens. It doesn't mean it's true.
But, you know, interested to see if that does bring forward anything else. In terms of, of disclosures, a lot of these things are rumors,
and you just kind of float them and just see what happens. And maybe they have to be disregarded.
Well, and in the hierarchy of people that Epstein was frightened of,
I wouldn't have thought Sarah Ferguson would be very high on this list.
No, I agree, but I mean, you know, maybe she's more garrulous than the others. I don't know. I mean, I don't know what she knew that she was concerned about.
But, you know, we have had, you know, these rumors, for example, moving on to the second part of this, of this, the revelation that,
you know, Trump, and Epstein, the their broken, contact,
that Epstein was making threats to expose Trump. That was one of the stories Trump was concerned about, that Epstein
thought he might be given a pardon protected by Trump. And those rumors have circulated for a while.
And that might explain, the story of the, Epstein's death, which I think, you know,
a lot of people have of questions and I question in the book. I mean, just in terms of of Epstein being one of the great survivors
he was at the beginning of his, his, his court problems. He had always called out to them in the past by,
paying people off and having good lawyers. And, he was not someone talking to, to, for example, the, the,
the lawyers who, who were dealing with some someone who was suicidal. And then we have all the strange things
going on in the prison with the cameras not working and the guards falling asleep. We have Michael Braden's, autopsy suggesting it was homicide
rather than, suicide. We've got former members of, other correctional facilities saying it was impossible to kill yourself,
just because of the heights and the sheets and various all things. And then, as I say, the source, which has come from a good FBI source
talking about, a fellow convict who was brought in to do this. Can you explain to me how this all unfolded?
So you were contacted by a former FBI agent. How did this play out?
If you you're the historian, hugely respected historian. You have a PhD in history.
How did you get this information? How did it come to you?
It didn't didn't come to me. I went to them.
I knew about a case that they worked on, that I knew they'd left the FBI. I approached them, and they kindly, in confidence,
just shared some, correspondence with me that that revealed this. And the correspondence was between him, internal I fi, correspondence.
Internal FBI correspondence. Has Jeffrey Epstein being killed in his cell, and that's what I was told.
And this is what actually, Glenn Maxwell also said. I think, when she was interviewed by Daphne back a few months ago,
and it k course makes sense. You know, someone who has very little to lose and a lot to gain.
Set the scene.
What did the correspondence say, Andrew. And how was he killed?
I don't know.
I don't think it says that in the correspondence for I remember looking at what --
Were these internal emails that you saw?
Yes.
This was the investigation into into this character. And this seemed to be a correspondence talking about
about this particular figure, and, and the, what had happened, what he had done.
But it's only a fragment, shall we say. So again, you know, it would it would be useful. I know the FBI had been looking at this.
I mean, it's, you know, it's kind of been passed off. You know, it was a suicide and that's been the line. But,
I do know that people were looking at it. And I think a lot of people suspected that, and that would all fit in
to the sort of his paranoia, when he went into prison.
And worries about some Sarah Ferguson and others.
So I just want to get this completely straight,
because I know you talked at the book fair this weekend, and you talked about being told by FBI agents
that Epstein was killed in his prison cell by another prison inmate.
And you're now saying you saw correspondence, FBI correspondence that discussed this?
Were they discussing it as a possibility? Were they floating it as a theory, or were they saying they were confident
this is what had happened?
But from what I remember, it's a little while since I looked at it. I've shown it, but it was it was treated as fact.
This wasn't speculation. And they know.
And you know who the inmate was?
Yes.
There was a name there. Yeah.
Why haven't you shared the name?
Well, I mean, you know, I haven't got.
This is the only word of evidence I've got. I mean, clearly there the libel, considerations, and,
you know, given that what's happened to various people in the story, perhaps wiser, I didn't share it too publicly.
But, you know, at some point, I hope I can, and, you know, it's still sort of ongoing research.
So a lot of people are going to say, Andrew Loney, he's just launched a Substack. He's trying to sell more copies of his book.
He's now floating conspiracies that have been around. What do you say to people who are just saying, this is
this is wild exaggerations from a man who can't possibly know?
Well, I'd like to like to be able to follow up on this as soon as I can.
I mean, the story has slightly run earlier than I expected. Incision was taken by people doing my Substack, that we would release it
when I was waiting to do more research.
But didn't you say it when you were actually at the book fair? So you sort of put it out into the world?
I did, and I know we picked it up, so I thought it was okay.
So no one picks it up.
What are the British press doing? Oh my goodness, it's only small people. Like you said, it is all gone.
Roll the court.
And and then, the, people who myself thought we should put it out there, but, Yeah, I'm a bit more cautious.
Yes, you should put it out there. Yeah. So. But you obviously. Right. You know, you know, I can understand, you know, people want more evidence.
I mean, the problem with the stories is often difficult to get the affidavits and things that people want.
It is, yeah. Of course, I'm starting a Substack, and I've got a book sale, so, there's a
there's a perfectly fair comments to make, but, you know, lots of people have sub stacks and books to sell.
Doesn't mean what they say isn't true. Right.
And also, I think what's so interesting about your book entitled The Rise
in the fall of the House of York, is that so much of what you said in the book that the,
the Yorks were trying to stop coming out? I mean, we know that they tried to stop their friends from speaking to you.
They wouldn't speak to you. So much of what has come out in the book,
has proven not only to be true, certainly more than the tip of the iceberg,
but it's led to, along with Virginia Drew phrase. But nobody's fool. The Prince losing his title.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's extraordinarily I mean, I think they realized that this, there were wider questions about royal privilege
and accountability being asked by the media, by social media. And they felt that they had to kind of cut,
cut him loose before he infected the rest of them. And I think when the king saw you know, was being heckled at Litchfield,
when I think they were worried that there might be more Epstein material, they may know. What's that? I don't know,
I think they realized that they had to distance themselves and he, you know, there had been increasing calls that he should be investigated
and could be charged. And in those circumstances, clearly they needed to distance themselves.
And, you know, in some ways they should've been dealing with this problem years ago. They shouldn't have allowed it to drag on as long as it has.
Well, I was going to ask you about because in a sense, this story has become so prominent because of Jeffrey Epstein.
And yet the prince was off frequently, as you have pointed out, on taxpayers
money, on diplomatic jaunts, supposedly trade jaunts,
where in fact, he didn't want to stay at the residences of the ambassador because it clearly becomes, evident
that he wanted hot and cold running prostitutes where he was staying. And I'm surprised that given how many people knew
this was going on in the palace, that nobody ran to men, was it because the Queen and Prince Philip gave him cover
and that you can't, you know, once you know that they support him,
even if you're a respected member of the household, the royal household staff, your word is not going to be taken seriously.
Yes.
I mean, the problem was, you know, policemen were reporting not to the, the Metropolitan Police, but to the head of the household.
In fact, an even, Tony Johnson. But he's the head of the household. When people brought him complaints, said, look,
you know, we just got to do a master's bidding. He wasn't a great fan of of Andrew. In fact, they got into fisticuffs themselves at one point.
They got into fisticuffs. He supposedly it's it's supposed to turn physical when Andrew couldn't get hold of a room that he wanted.
So. Johnson. But it's or stand up to him.
But, Andrew just always went to mommy and mommy would overrule the one.
And Busters did complain and then found that their careers were pretty curtailed.
Son Wilson, who was the deputy ambassador in Bahrain, spoke out and then found his security clearance, I think was
was was withdrawn, for, for a job he had later on. So they could
they have ways of making life difficult for people who don't play ball. And I think the view was taken.
Just just give him what he wants. I mean, I'm talking to members. The royal household last week, I was amazed that both
he and Sarah Ferguson still seem to have staffs. Sarah was coming in and getting her laundry done at Windsor or Buckingham
Palace. And they were still entertaining businessmen, in royal palaces
and still was still operating under the radar. So I think what we're told and what's happening are some two very different things.
But you see right there, you know, the obscene thing is kind of taking everyone's attention away from what is the real scandal, I think,
which is why they've abused their position as royals to make money from sales. I mean, some ambassadors refuse to play ball.
And when they were given a list of people that Andrew wanted and other he or his mates to meet, didn't
provide it or said they were unsuitable and kind of warned him off. But there was quite a lot, as I forget, the book of And,
I'm not Karl senior aspersions, but Andrew had close connections with, with banks, banks that dealt with
the sort of customers that no one else wanted to deal with. And so, you know, the,
the you can see how the system might have worked.
So, Peter Morgan, the writer of the brilliant,
Netflix series The Crown, I read, said that when he was envisaging writing about the royal family,
he thought about the Queen as almost as Tony Soprano, that this was a business.
And she was the sort of head of it. I'm not saying he was likening it to the mob,
but as he was thinking about it unfolding over seasons, how did you sustain the story now you look back on
the Queen and Prince Philip, given all we know now
and the love and respect and all with which the Queen was held,
do you think that if she was still alive, she would still have that?
Or do you think she's been subsequently revealed as enabling a very corrupt son, fully knowing what he was up to?
Yeah, and it's interesting whether, you know, in my book why you're being published, and whether the press would have been as confident
as some of them were in running some of the stories they did, because, I mean, I know there are a lot of stories. It's suppressed.
So I, you know, I suspect now the Queen's dead, that it was a little easier for me to, to get published.
I had a very, supportive publisher and big publisher and that helped. And I think then,
you know, people felt the ground would've being softened and they could come, come back. And there was clearly a very strong feeling among the population
that, you know, elites were getting away with some pretty bad behavior and needed to be held to account. And, you know, that was a big factor in the seats.
But I think it was also a stronger feeling in Britain, too. So, you know, I think the whole softening up process
was beginning, and it made it possible.
But yeah, I think Queen it's the Queen was still alive.
I think it would be very difficult.
I wanted to ask you about the Queen's husband, Prince Philip,
otherwise known as the Duke of Edinburgh. What was his role in all this? Was he a supporter of Andrew?
Did he try and rein him in? Did the Queen always take preference over the Duke of Edinburgh?
I mean, as a married couple, as parents, how would they trying to influence Andrew?
Well, I mean, my design had always been that, you know, the Duke of Edinburgh was the chap who ran the family and he ran a pretty tight ship.
I mean, he was the one who basically summoned Andrew to Wood Farm and told him basically, you know, you got to resign all your things, you know, this is it.
And he was pretty tough. So I, and the Queen did, did sort of listen to him. So I find it is extraordinarily that that wasn't to what happened.
And all I've been told is that to the Queen that he he did obey the Queen. The Queen said no.
And, you know, we're kind of sort of tough this one out. And he had to, to, to go with her.
I mean, to be fair, he was also by this stage in his 70s, and I think he was just didn't really want to have all the fights as she was that might be required.
They thought they could probably get away with it, or they thought they could deal with it. So they thought maybe the problems at the time were worse.
Addressing, because the buffer lost in the Duke, quite the behind the scenes. Never it never happened.
They may not have been told the full story by Andrew.
I mean, one of the interesting things I picked up last week was that,
the Andrew hadn't told the staff he didn't know about the interview, with Newsnight in Buckingham Palace.
And therefore the room hadn't been prepared, hadn't actually been cleaned. And there were the the staff were very upset that that actually,
it wasn't enough for they didn't begin a fit state to, to have TV cameras in it. The, Queen and Prince Philip must have been older than in their 70s.
When were they in their 70s? Because I thought the first story about Andrew and Epstein,
came out, I think, in the mail or Mail on Sunday in 2011. So they were doing so.
Wouldn't they have been in the 80s at that stage?
Hey, sorry I just a yeah.
So they're older. Yes. Exactly. So I mean so in some ways you know they, they
they were kind of they had this attitude was sticking their head in the sand sometimes. And I think that's what they did. And maybe they thought someone else would deal with it who didn't deal with it.
I'd who knows? I mean, they're not here to tell us, you know, but I mean, to be fair, it was also a problem for King Charles.
I mean, he was taking a much more active role. I by that stage. And, and Williams is, is taking more active role now.
So it's it was kind of on his watch as well. And he's not a great you know, there's no love lost between the brothers.
And he has a full measure of his younger brother. He was the one who didn't want him to have this job as a special envoy,
because he knew how you would abuse a position. So it's it is
a mystery how this was allowed to happen.
And, you know, maybe we'll know maybe some of the courtiers
will eventually talk. I was very interested that you said that since the publication of the book and since Prince Andrew has lost his title,
that now members of the household of the Royal household feel, much freer to talk to you,
even off the record, because they're much less frightened of him.
Yes, absolutely. I seems to be, you know, I'm amazed.
I mean, I had dinner last week with the former EC3, and these are people who would have given me a very wide berth, before the book was published.
So, and again, you got to wonder why of these people coming forward. Is it they did they,
want want to share information, feel uncomfortable about what they know, and,
feel that there's a higher loyalty than there is to the NDA or, or the previous job.
Or are they giving you just information in the woods to undermine your credibility, or are they is there some factor that,
I mean, a lot of them didn't like Andrew and were very, very happy to see him, you know, the, fallen, a fallen figure.
So you you're constantly assessing why people are talking to you.
But certainly I've gone back to a lot of people
and they've talked a lot of people now prefer to go on the record, as well.
Very interesting. So, and I know you're doing a follow up to your book entitled calling it untitled.
Is that going to be packed with new revelations?
Yeah, well, I got 150 pages of notes so far just from the material through keep.
You've come forward. And so this is some you know, this book is a couple of years away. So yeah, I think that will be it will all be completely new.
You know, we will cover some of the same period, but I'm good at getting new lot more new information.
For example, about his time as a trade envoy, and activities and places like Kazakhstan, places I didn't know about, like Mongolia.
We took out a I think almost all the material about his, activities in Libya, for example.
And those have now been I think we could now put that stuff back in good little the stuff from Peter Mandelson and Epstein was taken out,
because people didn't do those, didn't believe it. And now, of course, we've got the revelations about Madison
Epstein's activities together and how close they were.
So, you know, it's been gratifying to see that a lot of my sources proved to be absolutely right, which is why
I sort of felt I felt it was okay to go on the Substack, because the sources have proved to be reliable in the past.
And, I'm hopeful that I, you know, the opportunity to reduce stress be so well now that the Epstein files are about to be released.
I'm assuming,
that there will be more, more emails, more texts, more communications
with the former Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson are you expecting more?
Oh, absolutely. I mean, and other names, you know, because clearly the focus has been on him.
And, you know, we've had Mandelson and but very little on the American side. So, you know, given the number of documents are, are
I mean, there's they've got to be huge number of revelations. And if we remember, there were 40, I think 40 girls came forward
to give evidence in the original Palm Beach, investigation. So there's, you know,
I still think you've only got the tip of the iceberg here, in terms of of what, even law enforcement
knows, let alone what, may emerge quite separately from other other, other witnesses and testimony.
Do you think there is, the chance that Andrew, Prince Andrew, as he was known,
will end up coming to the United States to give evidence?
No, I think that's very unlikely.
I mean, I think that was a little bit of grandstanding by the Democrats.
I mean, he he's been caught between a rock and a hard place for a long time, because clearly, if you didn't give evidence
or didn't cooperate with the sorties before Evans, you guys was guilty. But if you did, he was going to probably, implicate himself.
So, isn't exactly the same position, that I'm sure the lawyers will just say
this is a sort of, a political trick. Democrats career, a minority on the committee.
He's not an American citizen, so, I can't see him cooperating until he's forced to do so.
But I can see material being passed to the British authorities for him to be investigated.
Both. In terms of of the sexual trafficking and the misconduct in public office,
which is, I think, the most obvious charge that we leveled against him. And I think that, you know, there are good grounds there,
and I've offered to to offer material that wasn't put in the book, but for legal reasons to give that to the National Crime Agency.
I think I have a story in my Substack of about $5 million in a suitcase in Kazakhstan, for example.
This was a suitcase of cash. This is a suitcase of cash that he was given. We know, you know, for example, that he was offered a 3.85 million pounds,
1% of a huge deal to bring a Greek water company into Kazakhstan.
And that that that emerged through email leaks. So I think the deal never took place, though, right?
It didn't take place because of internal unrest. So but we do know that there were these sort of deals going on.
And so, I think we may find other things emerge, other people may come forward and talk.
You know, Elon Musk has said various things in the past. There were people who seen the files, before they were redacted.
You may again be prepared to tour or leak material. Are these just the things that were in Jeffrey
Epstein's safe, or what do we actually think they were? At least the supposed documents and information
that he was, in theory or alleged to have been, blackmailing people with?
Well, I mean, there's material for the Department of Justice and the FBI. This is all part of the investigation. So there'll be witness testimony, with people who interviewed.
There will be material that they've collected. So, for example, we know that there were, videos and tapes
that he made of people who came to the house, of the various homes, and those in may be released.
I think one of them is be briefly shown on on the internet. So, there's a lot of material this, as you say, the stuff that may
he just kept himself that was confiscated when they raided the homes.
We don't really know. I mean, this is this is this is what's so interesting. But there certainly is a lot of material,
and, you know, just to see how devastating the limited amount that's been leaked so far has been, it's suggested
that there's there's some really big, damaging disclosures to come.
Well, well, you couldn't have launched a Substack at a better time.
Andrew. I can't wait for the next, the next installment. And, you know, I hope you get more information
on what actually happened to Jeffrey Epstein in jail, but good luck, with, you know, solving what
sometimes feels like the world's biggest mystery.
Yes. Well, I mean, think how much has come out
and just in the last few months, you know, so I'm hopeful that the full story will a pretty full story will eventually emerge.
But it just may take time. Yeah. And as I say, you really couldn't make it up. Every day there's something coming at you
and you just think, how is this even possible? Anyway, I'm glad to know that you haven't entirely jumped the shark.
And we will come back to you the moment the Epstein files released, because we would love your take on what what you've found in there.
So promises you'll come back.
Of course. I look forward to it all right, Andrew Loney, thank you so much.
I sometimes feel that I'm on psychedelics listening to these stories that they're so outlandish, the claims.
And yet time after time, it turns out the conspiracies are true,
that Randy Andy, as he was nicknamed by the tabloids the beginning of well, I want to say the 1980s
turned out to be so much truer than anyone could have imagined. And now Andrew Lowndes allegations about Jeffrey Epstein
being killed in his prison cell, about Jeffrey Epstein hiring a sniper
to actually take out two members of the British royal family. It seems so outlandish.
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Andrew Lownie joins Joanna Coles to examine wild new reporting that Jeffrey Epstein tried to hire a British sniper to kill Prince Andrew — a story now echoed by two separate sources. Joanna presses into the fever-dream paranoia that surrounded Epstein in his final years and the ripple effects now hitting the palace. Lownie, author of the bombshell book ‘Entitled: The Rise and Fall of the House of York,’ explains why, if true, this plot reframes Epstein’s reach and the danger surrounding everyone in his orbit. And Joanna ends by asking the blunt question lingering under all of it: what else was Epstein willing to do that we still don’t know?
Transcript
Trump and Epstein. They're broken. Contact. That Epstein was making threats to expose Trump.
Trump was concerned about that. Epstein thought he might be given a pardon protected by Trump. And that might explain, the story of Epstein's death.
I'm John Nichols, this is the Daily Beast podcast. And today we are talking to the British historian Andrew Loney,
whose remarkable book entitled The Rise and Fall of the House of Yorks really began the unraveling of
Andrew, formerly known as Prince Andrew, now Andrew Loney has, because he's been inundated with new information, started a Substack.
I signed up to it, and I urge you to it's extremely compelling. But he has two outrageous allegations
this weekend that we're going to completely unpack. And I have to say, when I read them, I couldn't quite believe them.
I wasn't sure if they were true. They both involve, of course, Jeffrey Epstein. And we know that Jeffrey Epstein's friendship with Prince Andrew
was part of the reason for Andrew's fall from grace. Anyway, you don't need me to tell you about them.
We're going to talk to Andrew about them, and I don't think you're going to want to look away. So let's get into it.
Andrew, I can't believe how much has happened since we last talked. And it was only, I think three weeks ago.
And you have in your new Substack, two absolutely explosive allegations, which we are going to unpack.
And when I say explosive, they really are. They really are. We will get to them in a minute.
But what I wanted you to do first was give us an update with where we are. We have some embarrassing emails of Prince Andrew coming out
from the Epstein trove, the emails that came out last week. But but where is Prince Andrew right now?
Has he left Royal Lodge and what are the developments since we last spoke when he just lost his title of Prince?
Well, I mean, what I'm hearing, he doesn't seem too concerned. He feels he's a free man now. He's saying he's going to go on dating apps and he's going to go on dating apps.
Really. And you know, he's still in Royal Lodge. They still haven't haven't opened all the present, all the, the parcels that Sir Ferguson ordered and hadn't open to self.
So, I think they're not going to go up to Sandringham till after the New Year.
I'm clearly when all the royal family have left, and I'm not totally convinced he will go to Sandringham.
I there's suspects that he may go somewhere else. We've got, a prosecution being brought by Republic.
We have calls from, former head of Royal security, and I was saying that he should be investigated both for sexual and financial irregularities.
So he's clearly not out of the woods. I mean, there's been a lot of speculation about whether he might go to the Middle East,
a lot of speculation about what Sarah Ferguson is going to do. Will she go to Switzerland? Portugal? Will she have a look at the tower in London?
She's been it's been said that she's going to promote herself as a, a speaker for empowerment and, positivity.
I don't know how that. Well, that's going to go. Empowerment. How is she a speaker for empowerment?
She was being funded by the world's most notorious pedophile.
Well, she is a woman, you know, with her own, logic.
But she is a survivor. She she she's been, you know, she's been a, you know, pretty much,
you know, a broken spirit. So particularly in 2010 when she was caught selling access to Andrew
and she came back, she went on Oprah, and people gave her the benefit of the doubt that she had she had repented.
And I think she's going to try this again. I don't think many people think that she's, a busted flush.
So, it's a lot of it's up in the air. I mean, actually, tensions between the King and the Prince of Wales over how this is handled.
The king's authority, I think, has been a bit diminished by the fact that he didn't act sooner and more ruthlessly.
As you say, there are these lines coming out, Andrew fro from the Epstein disclosures showing him to being panicking.
Really? When the story of Jeffrey broke. Of course, that kind of goes against the conventional line
that he was pushing that, you know, he didn't know her, and and he didn't know what this was all about. But of course, it confirms what I found my research and other people have written about.
For those of us who haven't gone through the emails in as much depth as you have,
can you tell us exactly how he did react when it first became clear
the allegations were that he'd slept with Virginia Giuffre?
Yeah, well, basically keep me out of the story.
And he went to PR people, PR people to undermine Giuffre. He he tried to get information about up through his police
protection officer using his contacts with the FBI. It was all about damage limitations and about distancing himself
from the story. And, you know, he is only one of three many, revelations that have come out with the disclosures, in the files.
We've got more, I think, imminent. I mean, interesting that Trump has now kind of changed his tune and is happy for the material to be released.
So I would say I'm not sure if he's happy for the material to be released. He realizes that he wasn't going to win the battle to keep them suppressed.
So he sort of leant into the rebels in the Republican Party, I would say.
I think it's more of a political maneuver, rather than he's happy for them to be released. Absolutely right. You know, he's he's he sees that, you know, that there's new advantage in him
trying to prevent the other release, as he has done up till now. And, and he's having to go with the mood.
And I mean, thank goodness we're seeing this stuff. I think again, we've seen the publication, of course, of Virginia Giuffre, his
own book. Ghosted by Amy Wallace, which has been well received and been a bestseller
and I think has again changed the Da for a lot of people. It really brings home how awful the situation was
and how entitled these people felt they were. So, as you say, there have been a lot of developments.
And I think there will be more. I mean, I think more people will come forward. Now, I'm certainly finding from my own research that, people are coming forward, but.
Objection. Officers, former members of staff, ambassadors who I think are appalled by what they've discovered and learned,
and I think also want to be on the right side of history here. And clearly, that's what's motivated Trump to a certain extent as well.
And there've been lots of accusations. Tina Brown made it over the weekend that the Queen really enabled
Andrew's behavior. Do you think that's fair?
Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, I was vilified when I said this in August, because
the Queen, of course, was a saint and wouldn't have done anything like that. So it's great that, you know, people like Tina Brown are saying these things.
It's but it's exactly what I found. I mean, we know that attempts were made to suppress this story.
ABC television were were threatened. Basically, if they went ahead, they would lose access to the Royals.
I know from talking to ambassadors and others that they were basically sent away with a flea in their ear when they tried to bring,
the concerns to the Queen and her staff about Andrew. And of course, every time he seemed to be involved
in some scandal, the Queen seemed to either, I've taken with her to church or give them some new honor.
So I think it was pretty apparent at the time. Just no one was prepared to say it, and,
and there was even a leak in the Sunday Times the other day, I think, by the palace, but trying to basically put the blame on the Queen for not basically sorting
this problem out and handing a time bomb to to King Charles.
So there's a lot of buck passing going on at the moment in your book, entitled
The Rise and Fall of the House of you, which we've talked about, extensively on this podcast.
You talk about a weekend in Thailand where Prince Andrew went through 40 prostitutes.
I mean, subsequent reporting has also found that he appeared to have prostitutes coming into Buckingham Palace
with no security clearance checks whatsoever.
No. Absolutely nothing. Paul Page has gone public on that.
He was one of the policemen on the North gate. And I think this isn't a this was of concern to the police
because there were always people who didn't know who they were. It was pretty clear that they were escorts.
And, I mean, there were lots and lots and coming in, and, we've got lots of stories of escorts from in Hong Kong
who took over the top floor of the Landmark Hotel and entertained escorts there on, I think, a trade mission.
So, everyone was turning a blind eye to, to his activities, which is extraordinary.
And I think one of the things that hasn't really come out
yet is the whole national security element to the story. We've had hints of, alleged Chinese spies, but there are a lot of spies
running around this story. You were to seek. Could is easy to see that both Andrew and Sarah Ferguson were very easy ways into to.
They were very vulnerable because of their greed. And, they did have some very useful context.
Yeah, it's absolutely fascinating. And of course, greed does make people vulnerable. And we've seen that with members of the family time and again.
[b][size=120]So let's move on to Andrew. Two remarkable allegations in your Substack,
which I couldn't believe I was reading. The second one, which will come on to
is that Jeffrey Epstein was actually killed.
But but let's look at the first one, which sort of leads to the second one, which is that Jeffrey Epstein had had enough of Prince Andrew and Fergie.
He was concerned that they would perhaps spill his secrets and that he had hired, a hitman
to basically, to remove them.
Yes. I mean, this comes from two sources.
One one, one in Paris, and another one in Palm Beach, who were very close to Epstein.
I mean, you know, Epstein said all sorts of things. We can't always believe everything he said, but, I think he was getting very nervous.
He thought particularly Sarah Ferguson might spill the beans on him. And this was a precautionary measure, I suppose.
Now, how far he went down the line of trying to get more details about, in terms, the sniper. But the sniper was, British Special forces trained.
And had he actually had conversations with this particular sniper? I mean, it sounds so.
Conspiracy theorist. I find it hard to believe. But then so much about this story is hard to believe.
Exactly. No. And I was very nervous about putting it up because clearly, you know, it's an easy way of undermining my credibility.
So we'll see what comes. I mean, we do know that Sarah was was very concerned. I mean, that was the reason that she kind of kept in with Epstein because she was scared of him.
And I think this this could have been just a threat. It could have been just as paranoia. As I said, I haven't been able to follow up the story to find any more detail.
Though I've been told I will be given the name of a sniper. But, it is an extraordinary story, but it's,
you know, as you say, that the story is is bizarre. Anyway. And, we're dealing with people who are not necessarily in the realms of reality.
If you are a sniper actively in the special services in the UK, the idea of being commissioned by an American to kill members
of the British royal family, I mean, how on earth would he get away with it?
I mean, it just seems remarkable.
Well, I do think this was a serving member of Special Forces as someone who being trained in as a British Special Forces person,
you know, I'm just thinking of the update of the Freddie Forsyth's novel The Day of the Jackal, and it is not, I think, than the update.
It is about an ex-British Special Forces person who is basically a gun for her. So in some ways that isn't that odd.
It's interesting that I've got, you know, that's come from two different sources, but, you know, often that happens. It doesn't mean it's true.
But, you know, interested to see if that does bring forward anything else. In terms of, of disclosures, a lot of these things are rumors,
and you just kind of float them and just see what happens. And maybe they have to be disregarded.
Well, and in the hierarchy of people that Epstein was frightened of,
I wouldn't have thought Sarah Ferguson would be very high on this list.
No, I agree, but I mean, you know, maybe she's more garrulous than the others. I don't know. I mean, I don't know what she knew that she was concerned about.
But, you know, we have had, you know, these rumors, for example, moving on to the second part of this, of this, the revelation that,
you know, Trump, and Epstein, the their broken, contact,
that Epstein was making threats to expose Trump. That was one of the stories Trump was concerned about, that Epstein
thought he might be given a pardon protected by Trump. And those rumors have circulated for a while.
And that might explain, the story of the, Epstein's death, which I think, you know,
a lot of people have of questions and I question in the book. I mean, just in terms of of Epstein being one of the great survivors
he was at the beginning of his, his, his court problems. He had always called out to them in the past by,
paying people off and having good lawyers. And, he was not someone talking to, to, for example, the, the,
the lawyers who, who were dealing with some someone who was suicidal. And then we have all the strange things
going on in the prison with the cameras not working and the guards falling asleep. We have Michael Braden's, autopsy suggesting it was homicide
rather than, suicide. We've got former members of, other correctional facilities saying it was impossible to kill yourself,
just because of the heights and the sheets and various all things. And then, as I say, the source, which has come from a good FBI source
talking about, a fellow convict who was brought in to do this. Can you explain to me how this all unfolded?
So you were contacted by a former FBI agent. How did this play out?
If you you're the historian, hugely respected historian. You have a PhD in history.
How did you get this information? How did it come to you?
It didn't didn't come to me. I went to them.
I knew about a case that they worked on, that I knew they'd left the FBI. I approached them, and they kindly, in confidence,
just shared some, correspondence with me that that revealed this. And the correspondence was between him, internal I fi, correspondence.
Internal FBI correspondence. Has Jeffrey Epstein being killed in his cell, and that's what I was told.
And this is what actually, Glenn Maxwell also said. I think, when she was interviewed by Daphne back a few months ago,
and it k course makes sense. You know, someone who has very little to lose and a lot to gain.
Set the scene.
What did the correspondence say, Andrew. And how was he killed?
I don't know.
I don't think it says that in the correspondence for I remember looking at what --
Were these internal emails that you saw?
Yes.
This was the investigation into into this character. And this seemed to be a correspondence talking about
about this particular figure, and, and the, what had happened, what he had done.
But it's only a fragment, shall we say. So again, you know, it would it would be useful. I know the FBI had been looking at this.
I mean, it's, you know, it's kind of been passed off. You know, it was a suicide and that's been the line. But,
I do know that people were looking at it. And I think a lot of people suspected that, and that would all fit in
to the sort of his paranoia, when he went into prison.
And worries about some Sarah Ferguson and others.
So I just want to get this completely straight,
because I know you talked at the book fair this weekend, and you talked about being told by FBI agents
that Epstein was killed in his prison cell by another prison inmate.
And you're now saying you saw correspondence, FBI correspondence that discussed this?
Were they discussing it as a possibility? Were they floating it as a theory, or were they saying they were confident
this is what had happened?
But from what I remember, it's a little while since I looked at it. I've shown it, but it was it was treated as fact.
This wasn't speculation. And they know.
And you know who the inmate was?
Yes.
There was a name there. Yeah.
Why haven't you shared the name?
Well, I mean, you know, I haven't got.
This is the only word of evidence I've got. I mean, clearly there the libel, considerations, and,
you know, given that what's happened to various people in the story, perhaps wiser, I didn't share it too publicly.
But, you know, at some point, I hope I can, and, you know, it's still sort of ongoing research.
So a lot of people are going to say, Andrew Loney, he's just launched a Substack. He's trying to sell more copies of his book.
He's now floating conspiracies that have been around. What do you say to people who are just saying, this is
this is wild exaggerations from a man who can't possibly know?
Well, I'd like to like to be able to follow up on this as soon as I can.
I mean, the story has slightly run earlier than I expected. Incision was taken by people doing my Substack, that we would release it
when I was waiting to do more research.
But didn't you say it when you were actually at the book fair? So you sort of put it out into the world?
I did, and I know we picked it up, so I thought it was okay.
So no one picks it up.
What are the British press doing? Oh my goodness, it's only small people. Like you said, it is all gone.
Roll the court.
And and then, the, people who myself thought we should put it out there, but, Yeah, I'm a bit more cautious.
Yes, you should put it out there. Yeah. So. But you obviously. Right. You know, you know, I can understand, you know, people want more evidence.
I mean, the problem with the stories is often difficult to get the affidavits and things that people want.
It is, yeah. Of course, I'm starting a Substack, and I've got a book sale, so, there's a
there's a perfectly fair comments to make, but, you know, lots of people have sub stacks and books to sell.
Doesn't mean what they say isn't true. Right.
And also, I think what's so interesting about your book entitled The Rise
in the fall of the House of York, is that so much of what you said in the book that the,
the Yorks were trying to stop coming out? I mean, we know that they tried to stop their friends from speaking to you.
They wouldn't speak to you. So much of what has come out in the book,
has proven not only to be true, certainly more than the tip of the iceberg,
but it's led to, along with Virginia Drew phrase. But nobody's fool. The Prince losing his title.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's extraordinarily I mean, I think they realized that this, there were wider questions about royal privilege
and accountability being asked by the media, by social media. And they felt that they had to kind of cut,
cut him loose before he infected the rest of them. And I think when the king saw you know, was being heckled at Litchfield,
when I think they were worried that there might be more Epstein material, they may know. What's that? I don't know,
I think they realized that they had to distance themselves and he, you know, there had been increasing calls that he should be investigated
and could be charged. And in those circumstances, clearly they needed to distance themselves.
And, you know, in some ways they should've been dealing with this problem years ago. They shouldn't have allowed it to drag on as long as it has.
Well, I was going to ask you about because in a sense, this story has become so prominent because of Jeffrey Epstein.
And yet the prince was off frequently, as you have pointed out, on taxpayers
money, on diplomatic jaunts, supposedly trade jaunts,
where in fact, he didn't want to stay at the residences of the ambassador because it clearly becomes, evident
that he wanted hot and cold running prostitutes where he was staying. And I'm surprised that given how many people knew
this was going on in the palace, that nobody ran to men, was it because the Queen and Prince Philip gave him cover
and that you can't, you know, once you know that they support him,
even if you're a respected member of the household, the royal household staff, your word is not going to be taken seriously.
Yes.
I mean, the problem was, you know, policemen were reporting not to the, the Metropolitan Police, but to the head of the household.
In fact, an even, Tony Johnson. But he's the head of the household. When people brought him complaints, said, look,
you know, we just got to do a master's bidding. He wasn't a great fan of of Andrew. In fact, they got into fisticuffs themselves at one point.
They got into fisticuffs. He supposedly it's it's supposed to turn physical when Andrew couldn't get hold of a room that he wanted.
So. Johnson. But it's or stand up to him.
But, Andrew just always went to mommy and mommy would overrule the one.
And Busters did complain and then found that their careers were pretty curtailed.
Son Wilson, who was the deputy ambassador in Bahrain, spoke out and then found his security clearance, I think was
was was withdrawn, for, for a job he had later on. So they could
they have ways of making life difficult for people who don't play ball. And I think the view was taken.
Just just give him what he wants. I mean, I'm talking to members. The royal household last week, I was amazed that both
he and Sarah Ferguson still seem to have staffs. Sarah was coming in and getting her laundry done at Windsor or Buckingham
Palace. And they were still entertaining businessmen, in royal palaces
and still was still operating under the radar. So I think what we're told and what's happening are some two very different things.
But you see right there, you know, the obscene thing is kind of taking everyone's attention away from what is the real scandal, I think,
which is why they've abused their position as royals to make money from sales. I mean, some ambassadors refuse to play ball.
And when they were given a list of people that Andrew wanted and other he or his mates to meet, didn't
provide it or said they were unsuitable and kind of warned him off. But there was quite a lot, as I forget, the book of And,
I'm not Karl senior aspersions, but Andrew had close connections with, with banks, banks that dealt with
the sort of customers that no one else wanted to deal with. And so, you know, the,
the you can see how the system might have worked.
So, Peter Morgan, the writer of the brilliant,
Netflix series The Crown, I read, said that when he was envisaging writing about the royal family,
he thought about the Queen as almost as Tony Soprano, that this was a business.
And she was the sort of head of it. I'm not saying he was likening it to the mob,
but as he was thinking about it unfolding over seasons, how did you sustain the story now you look back on
the Queen and Prince Philip, given all we know now
and the love and respect and all with which the Queen was held,
do you think that if she was still alive, she would still have that?
Or do you think she's been subsequently revealed as enabling a very corrupt son, fully knowing what he was up to?
Yeah, and it's interesting whether, you know, in my book why you're being published, and whether the press would have been as confident
as some of them were in running some of the stories they did, because, I mean, I know there are a lot of stories. It's suppressed.
So I, you know, I suspect now the Queen's dead, that it was a little easier for me to, to get published.
I had a very, supportive publisher and big publisher and that helped. And I think then,
you know, people felt the ground would've being softened and they could come, come back. And there was clearly a very strong feeling among the population
that, you know, elites were getting away with some pretty bad behavior and needed to be held to account. And, you know, that was a big factor in the seats.
But I think it was also a stronger feeling in Britain, too. So, you know, I think the whole softening up process
was beginning, and it made it possible.
But yeah, I think Queen it's the Queen was still alive.
I think it would be very difficult.
I wanted to ask you about the Queen's husband, Prince Philip,
otherwise known as the Duke of Edinburgh. What was his role in all this? Was he a supporter of Andrew?
Did he try and rein him in? Did the Queen always take preference over the Duke of Edinburgh?
I mean, as a married couple, as parents, how would they trying to influence Andrew?
Well, I mean, my design had always been that, you know, the Duke of Edinburgh was the chap who ran the family and he ran a pretty tight ship.
I mean, he was the one who basically summoned Andrew to Wood Farm and told him basically, you know, you got to resign all your things, you know, this is it.
And he was pretty tough. So I, and the Queen did, did sort of listen to him. So I find it is extraordinarily that that wasn't to what happened.
And all I've been told is that to the Queen that he he did obey the Queen. The Queen said no.
And, you know, we're kind of sort of tough this one out. And he had to, to, to go with her.
I mean, to be fair, he was also by this stage in his 70s, and I think he was just didn't really want to have all the fights as she was that might be required.
They thought they could probably get away with it, or they thought they could deal with it. So they thought maybe the problems at the time were worse.
Addressing, because the buffer lost in the Duke, quite the behind the scenes. Never it never happened.
They may not have been told the full story by Andrew.
I mean, one of the interesting things I picked up last week was that,
the Andrew hadn't told the staff he didn't know about the interview, with Newsnight in Buckingham Palace.
And therefore the room hadn't been prepared, hadn't actually been cleaned. And there were the the staff were very upset that that actually,
it wasn't enough for they didn't begin a fit state to, to have TV cameras in it. The, Queen and Prince Philip must have been older than in their 70s.
When were they in their 70s? Because I thought the first story about Andrew and Epstein,
came out, I think, in the mail or Mail on Sunday in 2011. So they were doing so.
Wouldn't they have been in the 80s at that stage?
Hey, sorry I just a yeah.
So they're older. Yes. Exactly. So I mean so in some ways you know they, they
they were kind of they had this attitude was sticking their head in the sand sometimes. And I think that's what they did. And maybe they thought someone else would deal with it who didn't deal with it.
I'd who knows? I mean, they're not here to tell us, you know, but I mean, to be fair, it was also a problem for King Charles.
I mean, he was taking a much more active role. I by that stage. And, and Williams is, is taking more active role now.
So it's it was kind of on his watch as well. And he's not a great you know, there's no love lost between the brothers.
And he has a full measure of his younger brother. He was the one who didn't want him to have this job as a special envoy,
because he knew how you would abuse a position. So it's it is
a mystery how this was allowed to happen.
And, you know, maybe we'll know maybe some of the courtiers
will eventually talk. I was very interested that you said that since the publication of the book and since Prince Andrew has lost his title,
that now members of the household of the Royal household feel, much freer to talk to you,
even off the record, because they're much less frightened of him.
Yes, absolutely. I seems to be, you know, I'm amazed.
I mean, I had dinner last week with the former EC3, and these are people who would have given me a very wide berth, before the book was published.
So, and again, you got to wonder why of these people coming forward. Is it they did they,
want want to share information, feel uncomfortable about what they know, and,
feel that there's a higher loyalty than there is to the NDA or, or the previous job.
Or are they giving you just information in the woods to undermine your credibility, or are they is there some factor that,
I mean, a lot of them didn't like Andrew and were very, very happy to see him, you know, the, fallen, a fallen figure.
So you you're constantly assessing why people are talking to you.
But certainly I've gone back to a lot of people
and they've talked a lot of people now prefer to go on the record, as well.
Very interesting. So, and I know you're doing a follow up to your book entitled calling it untitled.
Is that going to be packed with new revelations?
Yeah, well, I got 150 pages of notes so far just from the material through keep.
You've come forward. And so this is some you know, this book is a couple of years away. So yeah, I think that will be it will all be completely new.
You know, we will cover some of the same period, but I'm good at getting new lot more new information.
For example, about his time as a trade envoy, and activities and places like Kazakhstan, places I didn't know about, like Mongolia.
We took out a I think almost all the material about his, activities in Libya, for example.
And those have now been I think we could now put that stuff back in good little the stuff from Peter Mandelson and Epstein was taken out,
because people didn't do those, didn't believe it. And now, of course, we've got the revelations about Madison
Epstein's activities together and how close they were.
So, you know, it's been gratifying to see that a lot of my sources proved to be absolutely right, which is why
I sort of felt I felt it was okay to go on the Substack, because the sources have proved to be reliable in the past.
And, I'm hopeful that I, you know, the opportunity to reduce stress be so well now that the Epstein files are about to be released.
I'm assuming,
that there will be more, more emails, more texts, more communications
with the former Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson are you expecting more?
Oh, absolutely. I mean, and other names, you know, because clearly the focus has been on him.
And, you know, we've had Mandelson and but very little on the American side. So, you know, given the number of documents are, are
I mean, there's they've got to be huge number of revelations. And if we remember, there were 40, I think 40 girls came forward
to give evidence in the original Palm Beach, investigation. So there's, you know,
I still think you've only got the tip of the iceberg here, in terms of of what, even law enforcement
knows, let alone what, may emerge quite separately from other other, other witnesses and testimony.
Do you think there is, the chance that Andrew, Prince Andrew, as he was known,
will end up coming to the United States to give evidence?
No, I think that's very unlikely.
I mean, I think that was a little bit of grandstanding by the Democrats.
I mean, he he's been caught between a rock and a hard place for a long time, because clearly, if you didn't give evidence
or didn't cooperate with the sorties before Evans, you guys was guilty. But if you did, he was going to probably, implicate himself.
So, isn't exactly the same position, that I'm sure the lawyers will just say
this is a sort of, a political trick. Democrats career, a minority on the committee.
He's not an American citizen, so, I can't see him cooperating until he's forced to do so.
But I can see material being passed to the British authorities for him to be investigated.
Both. In terms of of the sexual trafficking and the misconduct in public office,
which is, I think, the most obvious charge that we leveled against him. And I think that, you know, there are good grounds there,
and I've offered to to offer material that wasn't put in the book, but for legal reasons to give that to the National Crime Agency.
I think I have a story in my Substack of about $5 million in a suitcase in Kazakhstan, for example.
This was a suitcase of cash. This is a suitcase of cash that he was given. We know, you know, for example, that he was offered a 3.85 million pounds,
1% of a huge deal to bring a Greek water company into Kazakhstan.
And that that that emerged through email leaks. So I think the deal never took place, though, right?
It didn't take place because of internal unrest. So but we do know that there were these sort of deals going on.
And so, I think we may find other things emerge, other people may come forward and talk.
You know, Elon Musk has said various things in the past. There were people who seen the files, before they were redacted.
You may again be prepared to tour or leak material. Are these just the things that were in Jeffrey
Epstein's safe, or what do we actually think they were? At least the supposed documents and information
that he was, in theory or alleged to have been, blackmailing people with?
Well, I mean, there's material for the Department of Justice and the FBI. This is all part of the investigation. So there'll be witness testimony, with people who interviewed.
There will be material that they've collected. So, for example, we know that there were, videos and tapes
that he made of people who came to the house, of the various homes, and those in may be released.
I think one of them is be briefly shown on on the internet. So, there's a lot of material this, as you say, the stuff that may
he just kept himself that was confiscated when they raided the homes.
We don't really know. I mean, this is this is this is what's so interesting. But there certainly is a lot of material,
and, you know, just to see how devastating the limited amount that's been leaked so far has been, it's suggested
that there's there's some really big, damaging disclosures to come.
Well, well, you couldn't have launched a Substack at a better time.
Andrew. I can't wait for the next, the next installment. And, you know, I hope you get more information
on what actually happened to Jeffrey Epstein in jail, but good luck, with, you know, solving what
sometimes feels like the world's biggest mystery.
Yes. Well, I mean, think how much has come out
and just in the last few months, you know, so I'm hopeful that the full story will a pretty full story will eventually emerge.
But it just may take time. Yeah. And as I say, you really couldn't make it up. Every day there's something coming at you
and you just think, how is this even possible? Anyway, I'm glad to know that you haven't entirely jumped the shark.
And we will come back to you the moment the Epstein files released, because we would love your take on what what you've found in there.
So promises you'll come back.
Of course. I look forward to it all right, Andrew Loney, thank you so much.
I sometimes feel that I'm on psychedelics listening to these stories that they're so outlandish, the claims.
And yet time after time, it turns out the conspiracies are true,
that Randy Andy, as he was nicknamed by the tabloids the beginning of well, I want to say the 1980s
turned out to be so much truer than anyone could have imagined. And now Andrew Lowndes allegations about Jeffrey Epstein
being killed in his prison cell, about Jeffrey Epstein hiring a sniper
to actually take out two members of the British royal family. It seems so outlandish.
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Trump RAGES After Brazil ROASTS HIM With Protest Statue
Really American
Nov 18, 2025
Really American host Steve Harness breaks down Brazilian protestors surprising Trump with an incredible work of Protest Art in a stunning display of solidarity with us!
Transcript
There's a saying that perception is
everything and right now the
international perception of the US is
trending negatively according to a new
global survey.
Yeah, trending negatively is a very nice
way to say that the whole planet
is laughing at us for putting Trump back
in the White House. And honestly, we
deserve to be mocked. Whether it's his
tariffs screwing with the global economy
or him ignoring the effects of climate
change, we are no longer the beacon of
hope. We're a place that most foreigners
would rather not visit, let alone move
here. And I do not blame them. And at
the recent COP 30 climate change summit
in Brazil that the Trump regime skipped,
we found yet another piece of protest
art making fun of our dear Emperor
Trump. So, hit subscribe to Really
American Media. Let's add another piece
of art to the long list of protest art
that we have seen abroad. like Trump
strapped to a gurnie for a lethal
injection, a giant banner in England
with Trump and his BFF Jeffrey Epstein.
We had the Statue of Liberty crying on
the side of a building in France, or the
Mount Rushmore of dictators in Thailand,
a personal favorite of mine. But now we
head to Brazil to show you the aptly
named Orange Plague.
Heat. Heat.
Heat. Heat.
Yeah, that's the work of a Danish artist
named Yen's Galio. And yes, I practiced
that several times. I hope I got it
close enough. And although that visual
of a fat Trump crushing a little man
kind of speaks for itself, let's hear
from the artist himself as to what all
of this represents.
It's Trump on top of a thin man. And the
thin man represents you and me and
climate and everything that he tries to
rule with power and threat.
So this is the message that we need to
get him down from there.
Should not sit on top of everybody and
decide what they think we decide for
ourselves. and we need to discuss it.
Right. So, Trump is sitting at top the
common man, crushing us with his weight
and authoritarian rule, which does sound
about right. Although, it could also be
a statue of Trump just on the
common man. But hey, I'm no art expert.
But I am good at finding obscure video
clips on the internet. And somehow I
managed to find a clip of Santa Claus
interviewing that artist right there in
Brazil. And it offers even more insight
to his inspiration.
So, we're going to work together somehow
during this COP 30, this very big
opportunity to get this message to the
leaders. And you know, this guy didn't
even show up and and and
we made him show up.
Well, yeah, exactly. You made him show
up, but in a nice form that is
ridiculous
and and ridicules him. So let's get
together all of us right around the
world and let's uh promote these kind of
satirical images these these ideas of of
you know the best way to deal with
fascism is to make fun of it. That is
the absolute me best way. So let's do
that and uh Marcus just tell us a little
bit about how this came about. Well, we
made it uh we made this in cover statue
of of Donald Trump sitting on top of it.
And he says he's kind of he holds a
weight. So because he wants to decide
what is right and what is wrong. And
what he says on the on the on the statue
is I'm I'm sitting on the back of a thin
man. He's falling under my weight. I
will do anything to help him except
stepping down. Which shows the
hypocrisy. I mean he wants to control
the world. He wants to rule the
decisions of all of us. uh he wants to
do what is what is best but in the end
uh for him
he should let people decide for
themselves and this is the big problem
exactly he's doing what's best for him
and his cronies
yeah he wants us to do what is best for
him but we should do what's best for us
yes as he said he wants us to do what's
best for him but we should do what is
best for us isn't it funny that a Danish
guy can see the obviousness of that
truth but the mega sheep in America
cannot and will hot. It's no wonder the
whole world is laughing at us. And if
you saw my last protest art video about
that statue of Trump on the gurnie, you
may recall that it also came in this
short version, too, which is perfect
holiday gift giving for your
short-sighted mega relatives. But this
new orange plague statue, well, hey,
it's also available in a short mini me
version.
As you said,
we made 6,000 small 3D print here that
we are handing out at the at the
conference.
Isn't that cool? So because people are
afraid of say of putting Trump on the
agenda because they are afraid of the
revenge from revenge from him and we ran
into NOS's and governments and and I
think all of them were good and I
understand why they were afraid because
they are risking getting funds cut. So
we have this. We're an independent art
organization. So we hand these out and
whenever you're in a meeting room
discussing this, maybe you talk about
this little figure and you say, "Hey,
maybe it's not on the agenda, but let's
discuss how we do next time Trump runs
to ruin a climate deal or or something
so that we don't have to talk about him
next year." That's right.
I definitely want one of those and I
love the idea that there's going to be a
year when we don't have to talk about
Trump anymore. I appreciate his
optimism, but given his health issues of
late, hey, who knows? That year could be
this year, which would also be a great
holiday gift for all of us.
Yeah. And just in case you don't think
we still need to be involved in an
international climate change meeting
like that one in Brazil, just look at
some of these comments from that video
that show you just how ignorant MAGA
still is in the year 2025 with people
saying like they're just buttth
hurt because climate change has been
exposed as a moneyaundering scam or
aren't we past the climate change scam
yet? No. No, we definitely are not. Just
look at these mega comets stacking up
one after another. I'm assuming those
are paid protesters. Disgusting. I
really hate paid protesters and climate
change is a hoax. It's almost like these
sheep are all getting the same talking
points. And with idiots like that voting
for Trump, it is no wonder that not only
did Trump skip this COP 30 climate
change summit, he couldn't even be
bothered to send anybody else in his
place. But it's a good thing that like
always, the Democrats step in and step
up. Governor Gavin Newsome is keeping
busy overseas in Brazil attending COP
30, the United Nations 30th annual
climate change conference.
Yeah, President Trump is not there.
Instead, a US delegation of more than
100 governors, mayors, and other state
and local officials are attending.
Today, Newsome was quick to criticize
the president's absence, saying while
it's a disgrace President Trump has
quote abandoned the clean energy space,
California is stepping into the
international spotlight, especially in
staying competitive with China. Yep.
Good old Gavin Newsome in California
stepping up. And Gavin went to represent
America and, you know, act like an
adult. And while he was there fighting
to cool off our planet, he decided to
turn up the heat on King Trump.
California has two things. A reliable
partner
in relationship to this space.
I cannot say that for the United States
of America, particularly as it relates
to the current occupant in the White
House. Quite the contrary. This is not
about electric power. This is about
economic power.
And we in the state of California are
not going to seed that race to China.
We're going to compete.
Yeah. He's got my vote for president,
assuming he runs. Uhhuh. And while he
was there, he certainly looked
presidential and was asked about whether
or not he'd be running in 2028.
Today, Newsome also signed a memorandum
of understanding to collaborate on
wildfire prevention and response. As far
as his political future, yesterday he
said this,
the
most important office, Brian, I said, is
office of citizen. Uh, active, not inert
citizenship. So, I I that's that's a
gift uh to go back. But we'll see what
the hell happens. I' I've been very
animated by, as you can tell, by what's
going on in my country.
Yeah, we're all pretty animated by
what's going on in our country. And
that's why we need protest artists to
keep attacking the vanity of our wannabe
dictator.
Yeah. All right. Well, as always, please
like this video, comment below, and get
vocal. From the vocal minority with Nick
and Steve podcast available right here
on this fine YouTube channel.
Really American
Nov 18, 2025
THE ORANGE PLAGUE
I am sitting on the back of a man.
He is sinking under my burden.
I will do anything to help him.
Except step down from his back.
-- The King of Injustice
Really American host Steve Harness breaks down Brazilian protestors surprising Trump with an incredible work of Protest Art in a stunning display of solidarity with us!
Transcript
There's a saying that perception is
everything and right now the
international perception of the US is
trending negatively according to a new
global survey.
Yeah, trending negatively is a very nice
way to say that the whole planet
is laughing at us for putting Trump back
in the White House. And honestly, we
deserve to be mocked. Whether it's his
tariffs screwing with the global economy
or him ignoring the effects of climate
change, we are no longer the beacon of
hope. We're a place that most foreigners
would rather not visit, let alone move
here. And I do not blame them. And at
the recent COP 30 climate change summit
in Brazil that the Trump regime skipped,
we found yet another piece of protest
art making fun of our dear Emperor
Trump. So, hit subscribe to Really
American Media. Let's add another piece
of art to the long list of protest art
that we have seen abroad. like Trump
strapped to a gurnie for a lethal
injection, a giant banner in England
with Trump and his BFF Jeffrey Epstein.
We had the Statue of Liberty crying on
the side of a building in France, or the
Mount Rushmore of dictators in Thailand,
a personal favorite of mine. But now we
head to Brazil to show you the aptly
named Orange Plague.
Heat. Heat.
Heat. Heat.
Yeah, that's the work of a Danish artist
named Yen's Galio. And yes, I practiced
that several times. I hope I got it
close enough. And although that visual
of a fat Trump crushing a little man
kind of speaks for itself, let's hear
from the artist himself as to what all
of this represents.
It's Trump on top of a thin man. And the
thin man represents you and me and
climate and everything that he tries to
rule with power and threat.
So this is the message that we need to
get him down from there.
Should not sit on top of everybody and
decide what they think we decide for
ourselves. and we need to discuss it.
Right. So, Trump is sitting at top the
common man, crushing us with his weight
and authoritarian rule, which does sound
about right. Although, it could also be
a statue of Trump just on the
common man. But hey, I'm no art expert.
But I am good at finding obscure video
clips on the internet. And somehow I
managed to find a clip of Santa Claus
interviewing that artist right there in
Brazil. And it offers even more insight
to his inspiration.
So, we're going to work together somehow
during this COP 30, this very big
opportunity to get this message to the
leaders. And you know, this guy didn't
even show up and and and
we made him show up.
Well, yeah, exactly. You made him show
up, but in a nice form that is
ridiculous
and and ridicules him. So let's get
together all of us right around the
world and let's uh promote these kind of
satirical images these these ideas of of
you know the best way to deal with
fascism is to make fun of it. That is
the absolute me best way. So let's do
that and uh Marcus just tell us a little
bit about how this came about. Well, we
made it uh we made this in cover statue
of of Donald Trump sitting on top of it.
And he says he's kind of he holds a
weight. So because he wants to decide
what is right and what is wrong. And
what he says on the on the on the statue
is I'm I'm sitting on the back of a thin
man. He's falling under my weight. I
will do anything to help him except
stepping down. Which shows the
hypocrisy. I mean he wants to control
the world. He wants to rule the
decisions of all of us. uh he wants to
do what is what is best but in the end
uh for him
he should let people decide for
themselves and this is the big problem
exactly he's doing what's best for him
and his cronies
yeah he wants us to do what is best for
him but we should do what's best for us
yes as he said he wants us to do what's
best for him but we should do what is
best for us isn't it funny that a Danish
guy can see the obviousness of that
truth but the mega sheep in America
cannot and will hot. It's no wonder the
whole world is laughing at us. And if
you saw my last protest art video about
that statue of Trump on the gurnie, you
may recall that it also came in this
short version, too, which is perfect
holiday gift giving for your
short-sighted mega relatives. But this
new orange plague statue, well, hey,
it's also available in a short mini me
version.
As you said,
we made 6,000 small 3D print here that
we are handing out at the at the
conference.
Isn't that cool? So because people are
afraid of say of putting Trump on the
agenda because they are afraid of the
revenge from revenge from him and we ran
into NOS's and governments and and I
think all of them were good and I
understand why they were afraid because
they are risking getting funds cut. So
we have this. We're an independent art
organization. So we hand these out and
whenever you're in a meeting room
discussing this, maybe you talk about
this little figure and you say, "Hey,
maybe it's not on the agenda, but let's
discuss how we do next time Trump runs
to ruin a climate deal or or something
so that we don't have to talk about him
next year." That's right.
I definitely want one of those and I
love the idea that there's going to be a
year when we don't have to talk about
Trump anymore. I appreciate his
optimism, but given his health issues of
late, hey, who knows? That year could be
this year, which would also be a great
holiday gift for all of us.
Yeah. And just in case you don't think
we still need to be involved in an
international climate change meeting
like that one in Brazil, just look at
some of these comments from that video
that show you just how ignorant MAGA
still is in the year 2025 with people
saying like they're just buttth
hurt because climate change has been
exposed as a moneyaundering scam or
aren't we past the climate change scam
yet? No. No, we definitely are not. Just
look at these mega comets stacking up
one after another. I'm assuming those
are paid protesters. Disgusting. I
really hate paid protesters and climate
change is a hoax. It's almost like these
sheep are all getting the same talking
points. And with idiots like that voting
for Trump, it is no wonder that not only
did Trump skip this COP 30 climate
change summit, he couldn't even be
bothered to send anybody else in his
place. But it's a good thing that like
always, the Democrats step in and step
up. Governor Gavin Newsome is keeping
busy overseas in Brazil attending COP
30, the United Nations 30th annual
climate change conference.
Yeah, President Trump is not there.
Instead, a US delegation of more than
100 governors, mayors, and other state
and local officials are attending.
Today, Newsome was quick to criticize
the president's absence, saying while
it's a disgrace President Trump has
quote abandoned the clean energy space,
California is stepping into the
international spotlight, especially in
staying competitive with China. Yep.
Good old Gavin Newsome in California
stepping up. And Gavin went to represent
America and, you know, act like an
adult. And while he was there fighting
to cool off our planet, he decided to
turn up the heat on King Trump.
California has two things. A reliable
partner
in relationship to this space.
I cannot say that for the United States
of America, particularly as it relates
to the current occupant in the White
House. Quite the contrary. This is not
about electric power. This is about
economic power.
And we in the state of California are
not going to seed that race to China.
We're going to compete.
Yeah. He's got my vote for president,
assuming he runs. Uhhuh. And while he
was there, he certainly looked
presidential and was asked about whether
or not he'd be running in 2028.
Today, Newsome also signed a memorandum
of understanding to collaborate on
wildfire prevention and response. As far
as his political future, yesterday he
said this,
the
most important office, Brian, I said, is
office of citizen. Uh, active, not inert
citizenship. So, I I that's that's a
gift uh to go back. But we'll see what
the hell happens. I' I've been very
animated by, as you can tell, by what's
going on in my country.
Yeah, we're all pretty animated by
what's going on in our country. And
that's why we need protest artists to
keep attacking the vanity of our wannabe
dictator.
Yeah. All right. Well, as always, please
like this video, comment below, and get
vocal. From the vocal minority with Nick
and Steve podcast available right here
on this fine YouTube channel.
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Re: Part 2 Anti-Anti-Nazi Barbarian Hordes are Knocking Down
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White House's McDonald's Propaganda BLOWS UP In Trump's Face
Really American
Nov 18, 2025
Really American Host Kenny Hesse breaks down Donald Trump getting BRUTALLY ROASTED for The White House's McDonald's Propaganda on Social Media.
Transcript
and I'm honored to stand before you as
the very first former McDonald strike
cook ever to become president of the
United States.
Yeah, suffice to say, the Epstein files
aren't the only thing blowing up in
Trump's face today. And no, that's not a
Bill Clinton joke. Though, I guess you
could say, what used to just be the bane
of Ronald McDonald's tortured anus is
now blowing up in his Clinton hole. And
since many of you in the audience have
told me that you don't personally use
Tik Tok, I am so happy to bring you
another installment of this White House
social media humiliation saga because
today the White House is getting MC
roasted for posting three unhinged
McDonald's themed propaganda videos to
their social media in what I can only
assume is like the last ditch throwing
[ __ ] at the wall desperate attempt to
distract from the Epstein Files which by
the way were insta green lit by the
Senate and are now on their way to
Trump's desk where I assume Trump will
gleefully hand them off to his
handpicked Xeen prosecutor who's
actually tied to Jeffrey Epstein
himself. And this couldn't have happened
at a better time folks because I'm going
to level with you. I've been struggling
a bit recently. I've been trying to not
use ad homonym attacks or insult
people's appearances. Thanks to this
next clip, I'm happy to announce that in
this video, all bets are off.
So, if I may here, Ronald McDonald might
want to take a look in the mirror after
that snarky remark. Not only so the fat
[ __ ] can see his bloated toes before the
Saudi prince has to bone saw them off
due to lack of circulation, but also so
he can distract himself from the Mcro
thing he's getting online, courtesy of
his second favorite thing in the world,
second only to little girls allegedly
blowing up in his dementia ridden face.
So, drop a like and subscribe if you're
also holding on to the hope that if the
Epstein files don't end up being the
final nail in Trump's proverbial coffin,
at least we can put our faith in Old
Mick reliable to finish the job
naturally. God, that felt so [ __ ]
good. I'm thrilled to be here with the
men and the women who are really the
heart and soul of one of the greatest,
most admired, and most successful
companies in the history of the world.
and I'm honored to stand before you as
the very first former McDonald's Fry
Cook ever to become president of the
United States. As president, I want you
to know that I'm fighting every day to
support small businesses like yours and
the citizens that we all serve. And
together, we're fighting for an economy
where everyone can win. From the cashier
starting her first job to a franchisee
opening his first location. Everywhere
the American flag flies, you'll find the
golden arches. And there you'll find
good people doing honest, beautiful,
hard work. No matter who you are,
everyone loves something at McDonald's.
There's always something to have. Yeah,
believe me, it gets worse. But before we
get to that one, I want you to know that
all of this high octane, high fructose,
highly edited [ __ ] propaganda we're
seeing was edited from yesterday's
McDonald's impact summit 2025, where the
only thing that seemed to be severely
impacted was Trump's cognitive function.
He didn't want that publicized. He told
me he loved it. I thought it was great.
I want to thank McDonald's chairman and
CEO Chris Kamchinsky who I just met
backstage. I guess gave him a little uh
piece of my speech signed. I said, "Do
you want to keep this? You can either
hang it. You can give it to somebody or
you can throw it away. I don't care."
Because no matter who you are, everyone
loves something at McDonald's. There's
always something to have. I like the
fish. I like it.
You could do a little bit more tartar
sauce, though, please. Seriously,
I hate when I say, "Do we have any
tarter sauce?" Do you understand that?
Yes, he understands it. Real quick, I
don't think anybody understood what he
was saying there. And two, the only
thing that McDonald's CEO probably wants
to hang is himself after having to
listen to Trump. But hey, that didn't
stop old McDonald's social media
handlers from milking as much grease as
they could get out a man titty speech.
One man had a dream. A dream his life
was meant for more than serving fries.
Trump didn't just see Greece. He saw
greatness. He didn't just see a frier.
He saw a fresh start for America. This
is the tale of the American dream where
nothing is impossible. Look at the crowd
over there. Look how happy everybody is.
They're happy because they want hope.
They need hope.
Two sides of the same man. Two chapters
of the same story. From the golden
arches to the golden age.
It is my honor to introduce to you the
45th and the 47th president of the
United States, Donald J. Trump.
His list of accomplishments is
breathtaking. He's blown up the deep
state. He's proven the so-called experts
completely wrong. His list of
achievements almost endless. Meanwhile,
promises made, promises kept.
This administration's moving at
political light speed. Today, the flurry
continues and his Sharpies working
harder than Biden ever did.
I'm asking you to dream big. We're
bringing it back. This will be America's
new golden age.
Now, before we get to the meat of this
thing, aka the Tik Tok memes, just a
quick honorable mention to some of the
best comments on Instagram. First, you
had someone pointing out Mussolini once
closed off a wheat field for a photo op
with vetted loyalists to make himself
appear more likable to the working
class. McDonald's collab?
I think all of us can get behind this
one. What the [ __ ] did I just watch? I
see why he called it the big beautiful
bill now. and bro preparing for his next
job. As usual though, Tik Tok was far
less kind and therefore far funnier.
Now, if you're not familiar with the
formatting of this meme, I guess the
cleanest way I could put it to you is
when five daddies and a lone mommy love
each other very much and want to have
forcible sex on a couch. This is what
the thumbnail of that video on a certain
website with the last word hub on it
would look like. This one's new and
pretty great. I mean, you really don't
have to I don't think there's much I can
say. Another new one that uh you know is
very fitting. It's it's an older format.
It used to be Epste, now it's Clinton.
But I I do like how it's evolving with
the times. I appreciate that. This one I
actually might make my profile picture
just to piss off MAGA, but this is a
great photoshop of Brokeback Mountain. A
wonderful film. Shout out Jake
Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger. Make
America great again. Me.
And I think where I'll end this here is
just with, no pun intended, some food
for thought. If this guy had the lack of
judgment to post this next video I'm
going to show you on a government social
media account, how the hell are we
supposed to think he somehow had the
character or judgment to not go along
with everything Jeffrey Epstein was
doing.
Thrilled to be here with the men and the
women who are really the heart and soul
of one of the greatest, most admired and
most successful companies in the history
of the world. Frankly, the one and only
McDonald's.
Yeah, seems like it's time for this
little piggy to be quiet for good.
Thanks for watching, folks. For Really
American, I'm Kenny Hes. I hope you all
have a wonderful day. We'll be covering
all of the new releases from the Epstein
files as they come in. So, make sure
you're subscribed.
Really American
Nov 18, 2025
Really American Host Kenny Hesse breaks down Donald Trump getting BRUTALLY ROASTED for The White House's McDonald's Propaganda on Social Media.
Transcript
and I'm honored to stand before you as
the very first former McDonald strike
cook ever to become president of the
United States.
Yeah, suffice to say, the Epstein files
aren't the only thing blowing up in
Trump's face today. And no, that's not a
Bill Clinton joke. Though, I guess you
could say, what used to just be the bane
of Ronald McDonald's tortured anus is
now blowing up in his Clinton hole. And
since many of you in the audience have
told me that you don't personally use
Tik Tok, I am so happy to bring you
another installment of this White House
social media humiliation saga because
today the White House is getting MC
roasted for posting three unhinged
McDonald's themed propaganda videos to
their social media in what I can only
assume is like the last ditch throwing
[ __ ] at the wall desperate attempt to
distract from the Epstein Files which by
the way were insta green lit by the
Senate and are now on their way to
Trump's desk where I assume Trump will
gleefully hand them off to his
handpicked Xeen prosecutor who's
actually tied to Jeffrey Epstein
himself. And this couldn't have happened
at a better time folks because I'm going
to level with you. I've been struggling
a bit recently. I've been trying to not
use ad homonym attacks or insult
people's appearances. Thanks to this
next clip, I'm happy to announce that in
this video, all bets are off.
So, if I may here, Ronald McDonald might
want to take a look in the mirror after
that snarky remark. Not only so the fat
[ __ ] can see his bloated toes before the
Saudi prince has to bone saw them off
due to lack of circulation, but also so
he can distract himself from the Mcro
thing he's getting online, courtesy of
his second favorite thing in the world,
second only to little girls allegedly
blowing up in his dementia ridden face.
So, drop a like and subscribe if you're
also holding on to the hope that if the
Epstein files don't end up being the
final nail in Trump's proverbial coffin,
at least we can put our faith in Old
Mick reliable to finish the job
naturally. God, that felt so [ __ ]
good. I'm thrilled to be here with the
men and the women who are really the
heart and soul of one of the greatest,
most admired, and most successful
companies in the history of the world.
and I'm honored to stand before you as
the very first former McDonald's Fry
Cook ever to become president of the
United States. As president, I want you
to know that I'm fighting every day to
support small businesses like yours and
the citizens that we all serve. And
together, we're fighting for an economy
where everyone can win. From the cashier
starting her first job to a franchisee
opening his first location. Everywhere
the American flag flies, you'll find the
golden arches. And there you'll find
good people doing honest, beautiful,
hard work. No matter who you are,
everyone loves something at McDonald's.
There's always something to have. Yeah,
believe me, it gets worse. But before we
get to that one, I want you to know that
all of this high octane, high fructose,
highly edited [ __ ] propaganda we're
seeing was edited from yesterday's
McDonald's impact summit 2025, where the
only thing that seemed to be severely
impacted was Trump's cognitive function.
He didn't want that publicized. He told
me he loved it. I thought it was great.
I want to thank McDonald's chairman and
CEO Chris Kamchinsky who I just met
backstage. I guess gave him a little uh
piece of my speech signed. I said, "Do
you want to keep this? You can either
hang it. You can give it to somebody or
you can throw it away. I don't care."
Because no matter who you are, everyone
loves something at McDonald's. There's
always something to have. I like the
fish. I like it.
You could do a little bit more tartar
sauce, though, please. Seriously,
I hate when I say, "Do we have any
tarter sauce?" Do you understand that?
Yes, he understands it. Real quick, I
don't think anybody understood what he
was saying there. And two, the only
thing that McDonald's CEO probably wants
to hang is himself after having to
listen to Trump. But hey, that didn't
stop old McDonald's social media
handlers from milking as much grease as
they could get out a man titty speech.
One man had a dream. A dream his life
was meant for more than serving fries.
Trump didn't just see Greece. He saw
greatness. He didn't just see a frier.
He saw a fresh start for America. This
is the tale of the American dream where
nothing is impossible. Look at the crowd
over there. Look how happy everybody is.
They're happy because they want hope.
They need hope.
Two sides of the same man. Two chapters
of the same story. From the golden
arches to the golden age.
It is my honor to introduce to you the
45th and the 47th president of the
United States, Donald J. Trump.
His list of accomplishments is
breathtaking. He's blown up the deep
state. He's proven the so-called experts
completely wrong. His list of
achievements almost endless. Meanwhile,
promises made, promises kept.
This administration's moving at
political light speed. Today, the flurry
continues and his Sharpies working
harder than Biden ever did.
I'm asking you to dream big. We're
bringing it back. This will be America's
new golden age.
Now, before we get to the meat of this
thing, aka the Tik Tok memes, just a
quick honorable mention to some of the
best comments on Instagram. First, you
had someone pointing out Mussolini once
closed off a wheat field for a photo op
with vetted loyalists to make himself
appear more likable to the working
class. McDonald's collab?
I think all of us can get behind this
one. What the [ __ ] did I just watch? I
see why he called it the big beautiful
bill now. and bro preparing for his next
job. As usual though, Tik Tok was far
less kind and therefore far funnier.
Now, if you're not familiar with the
formatting of this meme, I guess the
cleanest way I could put it to you is
when five daddies and a lone mommy love
each other very much and want to have
forcible sex on a couch. This is what
the thumbnail of that video on a certain
website with the last word hub on it
would look like. This one's new and
pretty great. I mean, you really don't
have to I don't think there's much I can
say. Another new one that uh you know is
very fitting. It's it's an older format.
It used to be Epste, now it's Clinton.
But I I do like how it's evolving with
the times. I appreciate that. This one I
actually might make my profile picture
just to piss off MAGA, but this is a
great photoshop of Brokeback Mountain. A
wonderful film. Shout out Jake
Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger. Make
America great again. Me.
And I think where I'll end this here is
just with, no pun intended, some food
for thought. If this guy had the lack of
judgment to post this next video I'm
going to show you on a government social
media account, how the hell are we
supposed to think he somehow had the
character or judgment to not go along
with everything Jeffrey Epstein was
doing.
Thrilled to be here with the men and the
women who are really the heart and soul
of one of the greatest, most admired and
most successful companies in the history
of the world. Frankly, the one and only
McDonald's.
Yeah, seems like it's time for this
little piggy to be quiet for good.
Thanks for watching, folks. For Really
American, I'm Kenny Hes. I hope you all
have a wonderful day. We'll be covering
all of the new releases from the Epstein
files as they come in. So, make sure
you're subscribed.
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Re: Part 2 Anti-Anti-Nazi Barbarian Hordes are Knocking Down
by admin » Thu Nov 20, 2025 6:50 pm
Democrats to Troops: Don’t Follow Unlawful Orders
New York Post
Nov 18, 2025 #military #unlawfulorders #democrats
Democratic lawmakers posted a video to social media urging military troops to refuse any illegal orders they may receive. Senator Elissa Slotkin recently introduced legislation, the No Troops in Our Streets Act, to put limits on the Trump Administration’s ability to deploy the National Guard into American communities.
Transcript
I'm Senator Alyssa Slackin.
Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris
Duzio,
Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander,
Representative Chrissy Hulahan,
Congressman Jason Crowe. I was a captain
in the United States Navy,
former CIA officer,
former Navy, former paratrooper and Army
Ranger,
former intelligence officer,
former Air Force.
We want to speak directly to members of
the military
and the intelligence community
who take risks each day to keep
Americans safe.
We know you are under enormous stress
and pressure right now. Americans trust
their military,
but that trust is at risk. This
administration is pitting our uniform
military
and intelligence community professionals
against American citizens like us. You
all swore an oath
to protect and defend this Constitution.
And right now, the threats to our
Constitution aren't just coming from
abroad,
but from right here at home.
Our laws are clear. You can refuse
illegal orders.
You can refuse illegal orders.
You must refuse illegal orders. No one
has to carry out orders that violate the
law or our constitution.
We know this is hard and that it's a
difficult time to be a public servant.
But whether you're serving in the CIA,
the Army, our Navy,
the Air Force,
your vigilance is critical.
And know that we have your back
because now more than ever,
the American people need you. We need
you to stand up for our laws,
our Constitution, and who we are as
Americans. Don't give up. Don't give up.
Don't give up.
Don't give up the ship. I'm Senator
Alyssa Slotkin.
Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris
Duzio,
Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander,
Representative Chrissy Hulahan,
Congressman Jason Crow. I was a captain
in the United States Navy,
former CIA officer,
former Navy, former paratrooper and Army
Ranger,
former intelligence officer,
former Air Force.
We want to speak directly to members of
the military
and the intelligence community
who take risks each day to keep
Americans safe.
We know you are under enormous stress
and pressure right now. Americans trust
their military,
but that trust is at risk. This
administration is pitting our uniform
military
and intelligence community professionals
against American citizens like us. You
all swore an oath
to protect and defend this Constitution.
And right now, the threats to our
Constitution aren't just coming from
abroad,
but from right here at home.
Our laws are clear. You can refuse
illegal orders.
You can refuse illegal orders.
You must refuse illegal orders. No one
has to carry out orders that violate the
law or our constitution.
We know this is hard and that it's a
difficult time to be a public servant.
But whether you're serving in the CIA,
the Army, our Navy,
the Air Force,
your vigilance is critical.
And know that we have your back
because now more than ever,
the American people need you. We need
you to stand up for our laws,
our Constitution, and who we are as
Americans. Don't give up. Don't give up.
Don't give up.
Don't give up the ship.
New York Post
Nov 18, 2025 #military #unlawfulorders #democrats
Democratic lawmakers posted a video to social media urging military troops to refuse any illegal orders they may receive. Senator Elissa Slotkin recently introduced legislation, the No Troops in Our Streets Act, to put limits on the Trump Administration’s ability to deploy the National Guard into American communities.
Transcript
I'm Senator Alyssa Slackin.
Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris
Duzio,
Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander,
Representative Chrissy Hulahan,
Congressman Jason Crowe. I was a captain
in the United States Navy,
former CIA officer,
former Navy, former paratrooper and Army
Ranger,
former intelligence officer,
former Air Force.
We want to speak directly to members of
the military
and the intelligence community
who take risks each day to keep
Americans safe.
We know you are under enormous stress
and pressure right now. Americans trust
their military,
but that trust is at risk. This
administration is pitting our uniform
military
and intelligence community professionals
against American citizens like us. You
all swore an oath
to protect and defend this Constitution.
And right now, the threats to our
Constitution aren't just coming from
abroad,
but from right here at home.
Our laws are clear. You can refuse
illegal orders.
You can refuse illegal orders.
You must refuse illegal orders. No one
has to carry out orders that violate the
law or our constitution.
We know this is hard and that it's a
difficult time to be a public servant.
But whether you're serving in the CIA,
the Army, our Navy,
the Air Force,
your vigilance is critical.
And know that we have your back
because now more than ever,
the American people need you. We need
you to stand up for our laws,
our Constitution, and who we are as
Americans. Don't give up. Don't give up.
Don't give up.
Don't give up the ship. I'm Senator
Alyssa Slotkin.
Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris
Duzio,
Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander,
Representative Chrissy Hulahan,
Congressman Jason Crow. I was a captain
in the United States Navy,
former CIA officer,
former Navy, former paratrooper and Army
Ranger,
former intelligence officer,
former Air Force.
We want to speak directly to members of
the military
and the intelligence community
who take risks each day to keep
Americans safe.
We know you are under enormous stress
and pressure right now. Americans trust
their military,
but that trust is at risk. This
administration is pitting our uniform
military
and intelligence community professionals
against American citizens like us. You
all swore an oath
to protect and defend this Constitution.
And right now, the threats to our
Constitution aren't just coming from
abroad,
but from right here at home.
Our laws are clear. You can refuse
illegal orders.
You can refuse illegal orders.
You must refuse illegal orders. No one
has to carry out orders that violate the
law or our constitution.
We know this is hard and that it's a
difficult time to be a public servant.
But whether you're serving in the CIA,
the Army, our Navy,
the Air Force,
your vigilance is critical.
And know that we have your back
because now more than ever,
the American people need you. We need
you to stand up for our laws,
our Constitution, and who we are as
Americans. Don't give up. Don't give up.
Don't give up.
Don't give up the ship.
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Re: Part 2 Anti-Anti-Nazi Barbarian Hordes are Knocking Down
by admin » Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:03 pm
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
4h
This is really bad, and Dangerous to our Country. Their words cannot be allowed to stand. SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR FROM TRAITORS!!! LOCK THEM UP??? President DJT
11/20/25, 7:21 AM
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
4h
truthsocial.com/@WashingtonExa. It’s called SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. Each one of these traitors to our Country should be ARRESTED AND PUT ON TRIAL. Their words cannot be allowed to stand - We won’t have a Country anymore!!! An example MUST BE SET. President DJT
Donald J. Trump ReTruthed
P78
@P78
14h
Replying to @WashingtonExaminer
HANG THEM GEORGE WASHINGTON WOULD !!
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
4h
This is really bad, and Dangerous to our Country. Their words cannot be allowed to stand. SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR FROM TRAITORS!!! LOCK THEM UP??? President DJT
11/20/25, 7:21 AM
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
4h
truthsocial.com/@WashingtonExa. It’s called SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. Each one of these traitors to our Country should be ARRESTED AND PUT ON TRIAL. Their words cannot be allowed to stand - We won’t have a Country anymore!!! An example MUST BE SET. President DJT
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14h
Replying to @WashingtonExaminer
HANG THEM GEORGE WASHINGTON WOULD !!
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