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Scott Ritter & Larry Johnson: What Really Happened During the U.S. Search & Rescue Inside Iran
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[Chris Hedges] Bibi's been pushing this war with Iran for four decades, but there has been such resistance within the Pentagon. It doesn't matter whether it's a Republican administration, a Democratic administration, the Pentagon has just adamantly put up roadblocks to this. Trump of course took the bait. But explain why there was such resistance.

[Col. Wilkerson] One reason is my old boss at the Marine Corps Combat Educational Development Command at Quantico, Virginia, Lieutenant General Van Reiner, RIP, whom I met in Williamsburg recently, and had __ years old and had an opportunity to review our betting if you will. He did a war game, I think at the request of the Pentagon. He's a very very capable man at simulating. at wargaming and so forth. And it was called Millennium Challenge. And we got our ass handed to us. It was Iran. We staged it in the Gulf, and Iran handed us our rear end. It was so bad that they even ordered him to redo the game, and he did, and got the same results essentially, and then he went away. That's part of the reason, because people have memories in the Pentagon, and they know how difficult that war was, and would be, and they also know that in the intervening two plus decades, Iran has gotten much much better.

For example, when we were doing Operation Earnest Will, reflagging Kuwaiti tankers, and escorting them through the strait, essentially the same scenario they are talking about right now. We lost Bridgetton; not sunk, but a big big ship was hit. The Captain was furious with us. Then we almost lost a DD, a destroyer. Sadam Hussein shot another ship with two exocet missiles. And then we shot down an Iranian Airbus by accident from an AEegis cruiser Venzens and killed innocent civilians. And then Khamenei threw in the towel, saying he could not possibly fight both Iraq and the United States.

But I say that because that was then, and we had grievous difficulty in doing what we had to do. Then was then. Now they have learned multitudes of lessons. They have built all manner of defenses. They have consulted with people like the Russians and the Chinese. They are getting help right now from both of those countries.

Well, intelligence, don't they have? I think that's one of the reasons they've had such precision strikes is they have both Iranian Chinese satellites working on their behalf.

I think you're right. and we've made some demarches to Moscow over that. But I don't think Moscow gives a hang as long as Zelinsky is shooting Putin's oil facilities with his weaponry, they're not going to give a hang.

All to say, Iran's a lot better, a lot smarter, and resolute.

And when you listen to Aragchi, you get the resolution in spades. We are not going away. We are in your face. We don't trust you. You were duplicitus. You torpedoed negotiations not once but twice with military action in the middle of them. Why would we listen to you now?"

-- Will There be a Ground Invasion of Iran? (w/ Col. Larry Wilkerson), The Chris Hedges YouTube Channel, Apr 3, 2026

Don’t miss today’s show as Scott Ritter and Larry Johnson join us to reveal what really unfolded in Iran this weekend.

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JSOC recruits officers within the O-3 to O-6 range, with O-6s often holding critical leadership roles in the command's structure, such as leading Special Mission Units (Tier 1) or serving in key joint staff positions. While JSOC itself is a sub-unified command of USSOCOM, its operations are highly classified, and O-6 officers within the command are often tasked with counterterrorism, hostage rescue, and direct action against high-value targets.

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Rank Equivalence: O-6 is Colonel (Army/Air Force/Marine) or Captain (Navy).
Role in JSOC: Often serve as Deputy Commanders or lead Tier 1 units like Delta Force or DEVGRU.
Responsibilities: Involved in strategic planning, interoperability, and tactical execution of sensitive missions.
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Transcript

[laughter] Happy Easter to all of you.
We are here with the two heaviest hitters and Chris.
Hey, I thought you What are you talking about my weight for? I've been on a weight loss program. [laughter]
You They need no introduction. Everybody should know who they are. So, Larry Johnson, Scott Ritter, a pleasure to both have you on. What What a few days it's been. I don't know about you all,
but I feel like my mind is melting with all of the news and misinformation,
disinformation, which operation, who's getting who, who's lost in just crazy what what what is going on really?
What's going on? Are we living through a like a scyop here? Like what's what's going on? It's one messaging after a different messaging and firing officials
and what what do you think? Let's go let's go to both of you right away. Uh let's start with Larry here. What are your thoughts? What's going on now?
The only thing we know for certain is the Pentagon is lying to us consistently on a regular basis or the the SA the chief the chief pig. I mean, you know,
because Secretary of War acronym SAL.
So, you know, got to go got to go for the pig pig humor. [laughter] I like it.
Can't sorry. I can't help myself. I'm still at heart. Um le let's let's start with this. so-called uh combat search and rescue for a downed pilot.
The the story just doesn't make sense as we're being told.
Um the number one, it was flying out around Ishvahan and goes down. The the pilot managed to
get picked up pretty quickly with, you know, one pave pave hawk. like a Blackhawk especially designed for J-
Sock missions. Um but the they couldn't find the other guy. Uh he apparently landed according to some information's
come out uh like five miles northwest of this mountain that's in this uh that's
right on the edge of this national park in uh Iran, the Kalal Gazi, something like that.
So he apparently made his way to the mountaintop and then put off his beacon.
Now here's where it gets really interesting. So they in the search for this one guy and you know and I look
I've talked uh I don't know what Scott's experience with CESAR is but I've had the vicarious experience of one of one
of the guys I worked with for over years. He was the last uh Air Force 'to command a JSOC up at Hurlebert uh
airfield and uh he did a lot of seesaw combat search and rescue during Vietnam.
So what we had going on yesterday was the most unusual combat search and rescue I've ever seen
or heard of because you we got an A-out there. It gets shot down. Uh the F-had already been shot down. Uh then
you get a couple of Blackhawks, the pave the the pave hawks. They're they're shot and damaged and downed with crews. So
each crew on those pave hawks, that's the four a piece. So instead of looking for one guy, now you got two more Blackhawks down, but somehow we don't
have to do Cesar for them. Uh yeah, that makes sense. Um then uh at the site where they recovered where this guy was
supposedly recovered, they had they had two Cs that were on the deck supposedly stuck. Now the US explanation
is that they landed. They don't explain why they landed. Uh but uh the most likely explanation is they were carrying
fuel or a FARP uh which is a portable refueling capability. Uh because those
little birds the little bird's range they could get there but then they can't get back and the little bird is flown by
the task force So I don't know if it's there was a you know in the in the buildup to this we've had the unit the
th units out of Hunter Army Airfield and also out of Fort Campbell that have deployed. So and and when the little
bird comes in if you've seen the movie Blackhawk down it's like the little helicopter two pilots and they've got you can have four four special
operations guys two on each side sitting on the skids to jump off.
So those four little birds mean you had a total of personnel with them. U then with the the two uh pave pave
hawks, let's add in another eight. So we're up to Um and you know all of
this just to get one guy now. And and why are those Cs there? Uh because
you know the Ccan also carry uh it can carry a lot more. Well, the let's
the pave hawks can carry about combat loads guys loaded with for combat
plus four crewmen. Uh the the Cdepending on how it's configured it can carry it can carry up close to uh you know troops you know fully loaded.
So I I mean it's just was this actually a JC raid gone bad? Were they planning to hit Natans
uh and and try to you know capture some material whatever and then you know in the course of this things went wrong. Oh
there's there's something that's never happened in an attempted special operations mission in Iran. Never. Oh excuse me. Yeah. That that happened
years ago and uh you know that always screw up. I one of my one of my good friends he was a young Army Ranger on
that mission. He later went on to Delta Force was a sniper, but uh he was he was there when the helicopter collided with
the uh uh the It killed killed eight. And you know, we always say we leave no man behind. Well, we left eight
behind that day. Two two on the helicopter and six on the plane. So, I'd be curious what Scott thinks. What do you think?
Scott looks not happy.
No, I'm I apologize for my look. I'm sick as a dog. Just not feeling good. So, I hope you feel better.
Yes.
But I have a a little bit different take. Um the F-E got shot
down and um they implemented a standard CESAR mission which is two pave hawks
with um close air support um attached to it. That that's what the A-s would have been. Um, and the pave hawks got uh
they didn't get shot down, but they got they they were made combat ineffective.
This often happens when you put helicopters in harm's way. Um, and I believe that both pave hawks were recovered to uh Kuwait. Um, an A-that
was providing close air support uh got shot down. Again, I think the pilot made it to Kuwait before the plane went down.
He bailed out. So, there's no need to rescue any of these people. Um, but now we have um we have a pilot. I think the
CESAR guys got the first pilot out before they got riddled. And um now we got the the the weapons officer out. Um now they need a plan B. Um,
and this is where I think it gets interesting because um, this
this operation that that then went down was an airfield seizure operation. There were more than people on the ground
at this little airfield. Um, it's two Cs, each one with a complement of two um, ah and um, MH
little birds. So, four aircraft. um and you know a ranger element that seizes the airfield and you would also have air
force uh you know um CCTS there. Um there's also rumors that uh that this airfield had been previously surveyed by
the Israelis ShaDog and uh and other units. Um you know you you aren't going to land Cs in an airfield that hasn't
had eyes on the ground. And so just go back to Desert One, uh James Carney flying in with his little uh his his
little CIA aircraft so he could go out there and and do an airfield survey. Um so this airfield had been surveyed, but I think it had been surveyed by the
Israelis um back in uh in June and hadn't been updated. Um but this is what
what was executed was uh I believe a Natan's raid reconfigured as
true rescue. Um, so the two Cs come in. You now have uh Delta on Well,
they're saying SEALs. I'm I'm not quite sure, you know, which uh tier one organization was out there. Um, but um
you you you know, you've got guys on the ground securing this airfield and uh launching this rescue mission. Um, and
they got to the guy. Um, another interesting thing that's going on in there is um
it is something I experienced in in in the Gulf War. The CIA um apparently
uh conducted [clears throat]
a an operation to recruit civilians on the ground who could provide uh safe
haven for um downed airmen. It's a program I know for a fact was done in Iraq. Uh because it it also got involved
in counter Scud. Uh that's a different story. But um you know we we we know that the CIA I know the guy who ran it.
I know the guy who ran the operation in Syria. I worked with him in Iraq a lot and uh and I know they did it in Syria and it's understood that the CIA was
doing the same thing there. So I don't know to what a uh you know to to to you know whether or not they made contact or
they were you know being used for diversion purposes but there was a CIA aspect of this uh operation taking place
as well. Um but now the Cs land and um
apparently they get bogged down at the end of the runway. There's a photograph that shows two intact aircraft at the end of the runway. So they weren't shot down, they weren't crashed. They're
they're there on the ground. Um whether they had sustained battle damage is is unknown at this point, but what is known
is that they were on the ground. They discharged their uh their two air their their four ah and MHuh choppers and
they went out and they affected the the pickup of this guy, brought him back,
but now they can't get the aircraft unstuck. Um and so now the Iranians are closing in and uh apparently they had to
hunker down for three hours and have close air support. U you had reapers coming in. Two of them got shot down. Um
it's a big firefight. Maybe the uh the Cs are taking damage as well. We we don't know the full story here. There
may have been some casualties on the ground. Um and um yeah, see I don't know if those those those those holes are
from when the Cs are on the ground because apparently there was a firefight. There was contact made weapon
fire exchange. Um in the end um they couldn't get the Cs out. So then they turned to a very secret Air Force
special operations unit um I forget the th squadron or something of that
nature. and they fly a um what a CW or something of this nature. It's a it's
a commercial airline converted, but they're these aircraft exist to do clandestine um infiltrations and extractions of US special operations,
CIA, paramilitaries, etc. And um they fly three of those in. They pick up the people on the ground, including the
pilot. Um and then um the the tier one guys on the way out uh thermite the hell out of uh out of the Cs and the um
Hs and you have you know three short takeoff and landing aircraft um pull out and and get people out. Um that appears
to be the um the the what what I believe happened. Um I don't know if we left a body on the ground. I mean that would be
stupid to deny it and then and then have the body show up. Um, I I know what the bodies looked like in Desert One. Um,
and that's not what they look like, but u So I don't know if that's just melting steel that came down in the form of a,
you know, that that looked like a skull or whatever. Who knows? I I'm I'm not there yet. Uh uh but to me the most
important thing is that we compromised the raid the the JC raid that would have
been used to go against Iran's nuclear um material.
Uh you know there was there was talk that you know we knew where it was and that there was a chance that JAC could go in there and try and seize this material. Um and I think we compromised
that raid. So, we in order to rescue this guy, um you know, we didn't just lose a bunch of assets, but we compromised a uh a raid, a pre-planned raid,
etc. So, that that's where I'm at. Um I mean, look, somebody who was an air crewman and who's been through SER
training, um I'm I'm thrilled to death that the United States went in and uh and got this guy. I mean, um we can
disagree with the war. Anybody who knows me knows that I despise this war. I viewed it as an illegal war of aggression. I think uh we should never be involved in there, but I will never
turn my back on um the men and women who serve. And um you know, this guy went down and our country went in and got
him. And um that that's a that's that's a good thing. Um you know, and people are saying, well, we sacrificed so much.
Again, I mean there's it's been popularized. Bat is a movie Gene Hackman. um you know that the amount of resources that were expended trying to
rescue him in Vietnam. Uh the Vietnam War is full of stories of down airmen and we're losing five, six, seven
aircraft to try and get that guy. We're killing, you know, four, five pilots,
losing three more as prisoners of war to get one guy. This is just what we do.
This is the this is the pack that's made to people. Now, we don't always keep it.
Um, you know, maybe we'll talk about it later on, but you know, we're getting ready, some people talk about maybe the Marines are going into Car Island. Um,
you know, and I and I always bring up Cotang Island. Um, May when the Marine Battalion landing team was did a
vertical envelopment of an island supposedly held by to Kir Rouge and ended up being to We got our asses handed to us. They shot down
almost every helicopter we had. Um, many dead on the ground. We abandoned these dead worse because we left at night in panic because we were in danger of being
overrun. We left three Marines and Mteam uh on the island and they were captured and executed by the Camir Rouge. Um so, you know,
we have to be careful here because uh we don't have a perfect track record of um of of bringing everybody back. As Larry pointed out, we left eight behind in
Desert One. Um and uh we left a whole bunch in um on Cotang Island and uh who
knows how this war ends, but this was a um I think this this this mission was far more costly than people possibly know because if there was going to be a
J-C mission uh to you know go after the um the the nuclear it was just compromised and um those things are
planned and uh and well in advance they train on this thing and it's gone there's there's no plan B. I don't believe it.
So, both of you would agree that there is some level of of preparation and planning uh going into seizing the nuclear material in Iran. Yeah,
there was there was an article there was an article from the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists which you know connected with the Federation of American Scientists.
They do a lot of great work over the past decades and they put out an article just a few days ago saying that satellite imagery from last summer shows
a uh truck with blue containers at the site before the -day war. And they're
wondering if that is possibly some or all of the highlyenriched uranium leaving the site that it was supposedly
at when it was bombed. But prior to that and going to a site that is unknown, at least unknown to us, unknown to the public, might be known to intelligence
services amongst themselves, but we don't know where it's at. I'm wondering what you think of that. Is the nuclear material underground? Is it moved?
What's your sort of what what's and is the US going to go after it? Is this like part of the plan of this operation?
Yeah. Well, um, A, I don't know where it is. B, I'm sure Iran has taken steps to
protect it and if anything not to concentrate it in one in one one location. Uh I did years ago I was
involved with an exercise with a scripting of an exercise to do something like this to go into Iran to attack what
was called a hard and deeply buried target an HTBT and to take possession of nuclear
material. Now the as I as I recall the the the what we learned or were supposed
to I I call them lessons learned but the reality is few people learn anything from them but the lesson learned was
don't do it. It was [laughter] too costly you know too too risky. Uh and and you know, Scott and I are thinking
along the same lines about that, you know, this operation, what whatever happened, you know, what role the F-
was playing as part of a broader operation to conduct that raid. Uh it,
you know, something went wrong and you know, whatever plan you had went down the toilet. What I'm still not clear on is how the hell, you know, if if they if they had if they used one of the dash,
you know, the -s basically is a conf that plane that I think Scott was talking about. Uh how the hell they got
got the people in there and out because you think if you've located the pilot and he's up on a mountain, why don't you just land the helicopter up there,
hover, you know, a PJ goes down in a harness, grabs him and hauls him off.
instead it it because I don't know what those two Cs were doing. It is conventionally
uh [snorts] you know like a a Ranger you know not quite a company size would be on one of those uh could be on one of
those planes as Scott said to seize an airfield. I mean, I was involved with exercises like that and, you know,
they'd be landing as the as the plane's landing, the the back deck drops and guys come riding out on motorcycles.
[laughter]
So, you know, I've seen that. Uh, and and when we scripted all these exercises for J-C, we always had to have an
airfield seizure for the Rangers. You know, that's what they do. But uh we don't really have a good idea of why how
many people were out there just to recover one guy and then why you felt the need to secure uh uh the airfield
and did you know were were were the little birds flown out there on the ? Yeah, that's the theory. Or did they fly out there? You know,
they they had the legs if if they flew from Kuwait, they could get there, but getting back they couldn't get back
unless they got refueled. So maybe that was what the So it's still not clear to me, but listen, this this was
not just, you know, the the clown show at the circus. This was the whole damn circus. Uh you know, you had the
elephants and the lions and tigers and the acrobats and the clowns. So uh but the story we're getting fed is not the truth.
What do you think, Scott? Well, first of all,
Iran has said, and I I have this from the horse's mouth, meaning the Iranian president, I'm not calling him a horse. That was just [laughter]
I don't want my good friend uh Professor Mirandi to be mad at me. Um I have to be careful what I say because this is a
politically charged environment. But um the Iranian president and uh the foreign minister were quite emphatic in
September of last year during the United Nations General Assembly. Uh they had a um a sidebar meeting with several um
journalists and and such. Uh and I was able to ask specific questions about their ballistic missile program and
their nuclear program. And um they were emphatic that the ballistic missile program represented Iran's strategic
deterrence. And for all the people out there um I'm probably going to irritate so many but I don't care. Iran will never develop a nuclear bomb as long as
these as long as their current president is president and their current foreign minister is foreign minister. The president holds a lot of power in Iran.
People need to also understand that that the constitution imbuss him with significant authority. Um he is of course the head of the u you know the
National Security Council. Um and he says they're not going to have a nuclear weapon. They don't want one. It's bad for them. It would be counterproductive
that they're winning with these ballistic missiles. And they are. The ballistic missiles are are killing, you know, they're destroying the American bases. They're humiliating Israel. Um
and they're just they're there. They're getting better every day. Um but they said and um you know that the %
enriched uranium was designed to give them leverage at the negotiating table.
It was to make the United States stand up and take notice. Uh because it was um you know sort of that last final legal
step you could take before you get to um you know highlyenriched you know fizzle material. Um,
so when when they started their negotiation and because there's a lot of speculation that we sealed this stuff up and in and
in in the -day war that Israel sealed it in, that it's all in or they moved it, they hid it, that who knows what they did to it. um uh the the the
Iranian negotiators told Steve Woff at the beginning of the negotiations that led up to this conflict that um Iran had
or so kilograms of um uranium hexaflloride enriched to %. Um now
what's interesting is in that because they were going to put it on the table. They said we're going to give it up.
We're going to you're going to be able to verify this with American inspectors.
By the way, that means that they hadn't done anything to it. So, all the people that are saying that after the - day war, Iran was going nuclear, that they
were going to get on the they were going to build these secret nuclear weapons,
it's [ __ ] because Iran said, "We got it all and we're ready to give it to you." Um, and so we need to understand
that. And that was before this war began. That means Iran knows where it is and can account for it all. So any notion that it's hidden inside some
blown out bunker is is bunk. Um the other thing is that um because of this
leverage the the question of whether or not they would put all their eggs in one basket is a is another one. you know,
the you there are several containers involved in this kilogram or kilogram and um you know they may very
well have sent them to different but here's the the the thing Zarif the former foreign minister just published an article in foreign affairs
where he pretty much made the same deal said it's all there we'll put it all in we'll we'll downgrade you're not you know and Zarif although he's not in
government um you don't publish that article in foreign affairs unless you were green lit by the Iranian government. I know they've distanced and
said that's him talking, not us. But it was a message sent by Iran to the United States and the world about where Iran stands in terms of a potential off-ramp.
Um, and again, the totality of this material was put forward. So all the people that are out there saying Iran's already built the nukes, they're there,
they're ready to go, go Israel, beware.
You don't know what you're talking about. The Iranians aren't going to build nuclear weapons. They don't want to build nuclear weapons. the totality of the material is still in their
possession. They're willing to put it on the table and say we will verify its existence. Um so that means it exists
someplace. I also believe it means that we don't know where it is. And so maybe this pilot was a um a blessing in
disguise because if you wanted to see an operation go really bad really fast.
Imagine if they had launched that raid and instead of going to pick up a pilot,
you now have Delta trying to do a forceful entry. You know, there's a guy named me Sergeant Vining. Um he's
retired Delta guy, EOD uh guy. Um and uh you know he's he's considered to be you know legendary in the in Delta Force but
during the Gulf War he had a mission um that was never executed but it was to go to Taji to one of these uh hardened
bunkers uh where we believe that Saddam had control for the Scud launches located and uh Delta some rangers were going to go in there.
They do the same thing over and over again. I'm just I'm not giving away secrets here. I'm just telling you that there's nothing innovative about what
these people do. They land, they get on helicopters, they fly to a place, and they execute a raid with great violence.
It there's no that's what they do. And so they were going to land in Taji in the middle of an Iraqi uh military
facility, uh seize the territory around this bunker, and then Vining was going to go in there and blow the door off.
He's an EOD specialist. Blow the door off, get in there, and blow the site.
um and then get out. I think that had he done that, he'd be dead today because um I know Taji and I know who was in Taji
and no matter how audacious you are with your application of force, um there's only so much you can do when confronted by a lot of people who have weapons,
stealth is not immune to dying. Bullets do strike them in the head and they do die. Um, and I think that we could have
very well sent these these SEALs um, who are also trained in a similar fashion um, to their deaths. And so in a way
this this re-imagining of this raid as a rescue mission may have saved a whole bunch of
lives because I think this was a a a pre-planned package to
uh go into a place where you know Tulsi Gabbert said we have an idea where it is. Tulsa you don't. Trust me you don't.
Call me.
um you know, you just don't um because if you did, you wouldn't have said that in public air. You would have said,
"I'll talk to you in close session because then you would have had really secret information." But if you're speculating that you have it in public, it means it's analysis and it's crap.
You don't know where it is. Um and you would have killed a lot of Americans on this uh on this raid. Was that F-E
the beginning of this raid? Because Larry, you know this. I mean, these guys were staged. They were rehearsed. They were ready. This wasn't They didn't make
this up overnight. They didn't go, "Oh my god." Um, hey, bring in a couple Cs. Bring in a couple SEALs. Hey, do we got four uh AHs around here? So,
yeah, bring them into um Do we have an airfield? Yeah. Has it been surveyed? Yeah.
Okay, let's go. They had a plan ready to go. This was a package. This was a raid package. It was specifically designed to
go to that airfield. and where that's near Isvant, they were going to go in because the rumor is somewhere around Isvant, they were going to go in and
launch a raid to grab this nuclear material. And what happened is when the when the Pave Hawks got riddled, um they
didn't have a plan B. And Trump was like, "We're not losing that pilot." And so somebody made the decision to convert
this. Maybe it was a raid already underway. We don't know what that F-E was doing in that.
Yeah. And let let me just add in one other thing because I got a note from a retired J- Sock uh senior officer who's
a friend of mine. Uh his first his opening line, he goes, "Sorry, but the White House DoD Sencom story of a
seessawar for a colonel in the back seat when a lieutenant or captain belongs
there does not pan out." And I hadn't realized until he sent it that it was an ' It was Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Yeah. Which means he's he's not a a WSO, right?
More like um command post or something of that nature.
You know, again, there's just a lot more to this story that goes and of course they're not going to want to talk about it. You know, as soon as you start
talking about J- Sock and But they gave away the farm. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
we know everything to be on. If you know anything about Joo and how it operates,
all the evidence is there and the dots are there and you just connect the dots and you go that was a raid against a nuclear site that got prematurely
activated or got redesated as a CESAR mission. Uh, but was it a CESAR? Because was it standard CESAR? Again, Larry, you
bring up why was this colonel so valuable? Yeah.
Why would they? Because th this colonel could not be allowed to fall into the hands of the Iran of the Iranians. This colonel isn't your standard. This isn't
Major Tom Griffith. Major Tom Griffith was the uh weapons officer for Colonel David Everly at E shot down January th, I believe, over Alqaim in Iraq.
And that's a CESAR operation I'm very familiar with. I know the people who did it. I know this, like I said, I know the CIA team that did the that ran the human
on the ground. I know the the uh Air Force special operator who flew out of Batman near Diaber, flew the mission in to Alqaim. He didn't fly, he was on it.
He's the the the combat controller that would get off and search the ground. I know all those guys and I talked to them about this. Um, you know, that's what a
normal uh combat search and rescue mission looks like. Today, they've upgraded. They've got the pave hawks and all that. This is something else. This
is a This isn't a combat search and rescue. This is a J-Sock raid, a a preackaged, pre-planned raid um that
went bad. Um and again, the fact that they had to grab this colonel may have saved a whole bunch of lives because as
you saw, this thing was snake bit from the start. I mean, I just want to know who did the airfield survey because probably the Israelis.
Well, you're right. a win. I think it was I think it was Sheldog. They talked about it. You know, they say sorry M call but M call doesn't do airfield
surveys. Sheldog does airfield surveys and um you know but when did they do it and um why why again are we
why is JC relying on Israeli you never do that? You you always always always do it yourself.
This is why we sent um you know Dick Meadows into Thyron in in advance. Um because
you know JOK didn't trust uh the CIA's intelligence.
They had to get their own guys. That's why they get Scotty and Clim out of uh out of Berlin with them. This is why uh you know Fred uh the Air Force uh you
know uh airman who later on became one of the best warn officer pilots for Task Force He flew with me in uh in Iraq. great guy, Fred Barnes, but his
last name is um but um you know these this is why they did that. You would never ever
or you should never let the Israelis do anything for you. Um, you should have your own people on the ground, which tells me
that this was a raid prematurely triggered, meaning that I I can say with almost absolute certainty if this was
the real raid, we would have not have gone in unless we had a um, for instance, one of the Cs fly in with a
uh, Air Force combat control team that would have landed. Um, they were to come out on their little buggies, gone out there, done the tests on the soil,
compression, put out their little uh binkans and lights and uh and then get the hell out of there. Um, and then the Cs come in and they trigger it. Ding,
ding, ding. Lights come on, they land.
Boom. Rangers come out, sees the airfield, helicopters come off, off they go and do their thing. The fact that they landed on this airfield and they
got bogged down, that is a failure. That shows me that this was prematurely triggered. That we went in with old
intelligence um about this airfield. The Israelis said, "Oh yeah, we've surveyed this airfield. It could be used." So, we made that planning, but we needed to get
guys on the ground to do this. And uh and we didn't. We relied on outdated stuff and like I said, thank God um a we
got the guy out. Yay. Yay team. Um but also that um we didn't try this raid because we would have hit an empty
target and we would have lost everybody on this raid. We would have lost the entire raid team and we would have lost because now we would have had Cs
bogged down on the ground and um anyways that's my take. I don't know.
Will will the US will the US attempt it again do you think? Okay, maybe not the same obviously not the same location but will they attempt another raid on this material? Do you think?
I I who knows. Um yes, these these are very,
you know, we have a finite number of people uh to do a raid like this.
Um you know, there's an airfield outside of Las Vegas. There's another airfield in um in Arizona. Uh where they do these
rehearsals um and so they would have rehearsed this over and over again. All the timing is down. You know, it's all supposed to be precision guided timing,
timing, timing, timing. Um,
and [clears throat] you know, this is a lot of resources. Now,
I don't think there I I think this was I think this was it. Now, that doesn't mean that they can't go back and and try and jin something up, but um I I don't
think given the amount of preparation that's required to do something like this, um I you know, you just don't have we got any more guys out there want to
go out and play hero, [laughter] you know. Yeah. I mean, look, they started moving.
Um, again, this was all open source. Um,
the guy called someone on Nex is called the Intel Frog.
[clears throat]
Apparently, they were putting out the log, the flight logs of the Cs, and he put it out and he had it like from March
th through when I first saw it was like uh March th or or Yeah. th,
th. Anyway, up to that point, there had been flights and more planned.
They started looking at it and they were they're all Hunter Army Airfield, uh,
Joint Base Lewis McCord, Oceanana Naval Air Station, Pope Army Airfield, Fort Caval, Kentucky. There's basically those five. Those are all Jac elements. Uh,
those are you you've got Pope Army Airfield has the nd as well. Uh but when you looked at the number of
aircraft, it was the the you bar you barely had enough uh to move a battalion.
So um one battalion out of the nd, but the rest were um you know geared towards hauling Rangers, hauling uh the Little Birds, the th, the Pave Pave Hawks,
personnel that fly them, uh Delta, Seal Team Six. Uh so you know something was a foot and they've been they've been on
the ground there now for about two weeks uh in some cases but but the flights continued the flights were continuing up
through uh you know Monday last Monday.
Um so uh you know I guess a week ago or guess a week ago when last Wednesday so you know they've had a lot of flights
and moving a lot of personnel and all these people getting in position. And the question is for what?

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And you know whatever happened there on Friday, this
this was not your conventional, oh my god, we've had a plane shot down, we need to recover the pilot. This had a lot more moving pieces to it.
Right. And on that topic, still when while the raid or the rescue mission or whatever you'd like to call it was going, Iran started striking the staging
base in Kuwait. Um what do you guys have any thoughts on that or is that [laughter] is that a gone as a staging
ground? and and and how does this affect the United States, I guess, mission, for lack of a better word, going forward?

Well, what's the mission? [laughter] Mission's doing a lot of heavy lifting.
But could somebody could somebody define for me what the hell we're trying to do other than uh what we've accomplished so
far is given the Iranians a good reason to rid the Persian Gulf of US military presence.
and to uh grab the world by the economic balls and hold it in a chokeold. Uh
where now Iran actually gets to dictate the price of oil among other things and
forcing many countries in the rest of the world that wanted to ignore Iran.
Now they got to pay attention to them and they got to listen to them because Iran really does hold their economic fate in their hands and and and there's
there's some great spillover effect from this. We saw the Japanese who had gone along with all the western sanctions
against uh Russia uh contacted the Russians said, "Hey, you know, we're willing to overlook those sanctions now.
We'll we'll buy oil from you." Of course, at $a barrel. And the Russians went, "Yeah, [laughter]
yeah, that ain't happening." Uh tell you what, uh the honorable Japanese, uh you want to buy our oil? You can start by
lifting the sanctions that you've imposed upon us. You lift all the sanctions and then you pay full full freight. Otherwise, don't even think
about coming for a visit. So, this the spillover effect it's it's having global consequences.
Yeah.
Um what what Yeah, I agree with that one.
Yeah. anybody thinks I mean all all the countries that turned their back on Russia because United States was set these secondary sanctions um even though
Russia had given them heavily steeply discounted uh you know contracts that Russia would have uh complied with the thing about the Russians when they sign
a contract it's a contract um and it's forever as long as you comply but the second you break it the contract's no good you know but it's like the Indians
going hey yeah uh we'd like to buy that oil again what was that price bucks a barrel and Russians are We got the oil,
but it ain't bucks a barrel. It's What was the spot price on that one?
Yeah, you're going to give us about bucks right now. And it actually it went from to Wow. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, literally doubling your uh your your rate. But um [cough]
about Kuwait and all that. Again, I just it's a statement of the obvious. Um
Jacock is not very innovative. They think they are, but they're not. Um, that Kuwait
fort operating base has been in use since the s. Um, when I sent teams into Iraq, um,
they would Jacock would deploy,
you know, we had JOK guys on our team with rescue beacons just in case because we always anticipated being taken
hostage. Um, and if we were, then the boys out of Kuwait, who often times pre-eployed into Iraq, in a hindsight,
would swoop in and, um, hopefully rescue us. Um, but they always flew out of Kuwait. They always flew out of Kuwait.
When the Australian SAS was went in there, they went to Kuwait. Um, same place, same building, same facility. Um,
and they've been doing it over and the Iranians know this. So now, as Larry said, you know, it wasn't a secret. I'm
not giving away anything here. U we had a whole bunch of stuff flowing from bases affiliated with Jak specific
units. And where do they go? Wait. And uh because that's where they go. That's what they do. There's nothing innovative
here. I I have to tell you, if I were the one planned this, I would have said we're going to do a diversion into Kuwait. We're going to have a bunch of
guys running around pretending to be doing what we're doing, but we're going someplace else. Someplace no expect us to be. Someplace that the Iranians will
have a hard time finding us on satellite imagery because they'd have to go into scan mode. But no, we're going to make it easy for them. We're going to deploy
uh the aircraft land stuff comes in. Um you know, and now we launched we launched the raid. They know this and
the first thing they do is they strike the base while the mission is ongoing.
Now, if you know anything about these Jaka boys, their Ford operating bases are like home. They lift weights, they
eat food, they they they have RNR. I mean, not RNR like that, but they, you know, it's not a combat location.
They're not meant to be morted. They're supposed to be able to plan this mission and carry it out in near-perfect conditions. So, in the middle of the
operation, there's a command center there where the mission, the JOC commander is trying to, you know, now he's got stuff happening. He's on the radio, he's talking, they're going back.
There's all along boom, boom, boom, boom. You disrupt command and control.
It's a genius move on the part of the um of the Iranians. Um and and who knows if there was a follow on echelon, you could disrupt that as well. The Iranians are
outthinking us across the board. The fact that the Iranians were able to ascertain early on what was going on,
who was doing what, where they were coming from, and immediately put fire on the target, uh, should be a sign to everybody that we're
we're not in control of this ship. This ship, you know, that that that movie with Tom Hanks where he played the captain that got kidnapped by the Somalis, you know?
Oh, yeah. Who's in charge? I am in charge. [laughter]
Iranians are doing right now. They're just slapping his face going, I am in charge. There's no Navy Seal hit the guy in the head because the Iranians are in
charge. We need to know, you know, the people need to listen.
We have been reacting to the Iranians since day one. Now, we started day one with this, but remember the Iranians have been planning this war for
years. So we think that we were initiating something and therefore the udaloop is in our favor. We're acting.
They're reacting. No, we were reacting.
They were ready. They had already their action was to be ready. When we acted,
it's what they wanted us to do. And then they immediately turned the tables and start doing things that Trump said we never expected them to do. And we've
been playing catchup ever since. Every aspect of this war is being driven by Iran to include what's happening with air defense right now.
You know, the reason why we were doing what we did is because a we had standoff weapons and b Iran went underground. Now that we've expanded our standoff
weapons, we have to bring our assets in closer. The Iranian air defense is coming out and they're changing the game. Our entire suppression of enemy
air defense uh tactics are built around anti-raar.
That's what we do. We fly in, we generate radar, harm missiles get fired,
we suppress, and we move on. The Iranians are going, "Well, we're not using radar. We're lo using electrooptical guidance and a lot of IR,
uh, advanced IR technology." Um, and yeah,
this is why we're losing aircraft because we're flying into a situation thinking there's one set of rules taking place and there's another set of rules taking place.
Iran is contested airspace and that's another reality that you know when Donald Trump says we're going to bomb you into the stone age.
No, you're not. Um but the other thing is you're going to lose more aircraft because the Iranians are in charge. They're in charge, not us.
Absolutely. One thing I got to ask you both uh and it's important to me. So I fought in Syria with the Kurds,
worked with the Russian forces, worked with SAA going into Raqqa. And one thing that was noteworthy was we had weapons from the stockpile of the the government
in Damascus, we had them from the Russians, and we had them from the West,
from the Americans. And one thing that's come out over the past few years is that clearly what we've known all along, even though we were called conspiracy theorists, and we would say, is that the
US was arming the Iranian opposition through the Kurds in northern Iraq. So they were using those routes uh especially when you get from Erbil to
Sulmania then the border there. They're sending them all across the border and arming the opposition and arming the
Kurds especially the PJ Komala uh KDPI all of the opposition groups and we have a clip that uh seems to confirm it.
[clears throat]
See if we can pull that up here.
Have it. Now, the president also provided new details on what happened earlier this year as the Iranian regime
took to the streets and slaughtered what the president tells me is civilians in their own country after that took place. President Trump told me
the United States sent guns to the Iranian protesters. He tells me, "We sent them a lot of guns. We sent them through the Kurds." And the president
says he thinks the Kurds kept them. He went on to say, "We sent guns to the protesters, a lot of them." And so a number of headlines here from my
conversation with President Trump
[laughter]
their faces. Thank you.
I mean basically he's admitted what every what the Iranians said. These weren't protesters. Yeah. These are armed thugs working on behalf of Mossad in
the United States government. Thank you Donald Trump.
We know the truth. [laughter] Well, now that we're on the topic of Donald Trump,
let's talk about his unhinged behavior today while I have you still have you both. We have this. I think this came
after the uh you know the Easter miracle tweet about rescuing the pilots. This is the one following that. Tuesday will be
power plant day and bridge day all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open the effing
strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. And then inexplic inexplicably, praise be to
Allah, President Donald J. Trump. And then a he tweeted a maybe a few hours later, Tuesday, p.m. Eastern. Um,
what should Wow. Who made Trump Muslim?
Number one, [laughter] they scrambled his brain so much he's he's turned into a into a Muslim. But what is we've
extended the deadline again another hours might even be and now we're talking about power plants and bridges.
Yeah. No, he's lost it. I'm in fact let me give my brief input. I've got a bail. I got another five.
Totally fine. You're totally fine. I know Scott's not feeling well either. So,
but uh yeah, this Trump has accomplished something with this comment. He's even got MAGA supporters going, "What the hell?"
Yeah. What's wrong with this guy? Yeah. On Easter. Yeah. On Easter of all things, you know, but he might have gotten away with it.
He would have said, "Praise Jesus." But praise Allah, you know, it's like, "Okay, [laughter]
you know, he suffered a transmic accident." So, [laughter]
so that's a big word, Larry. Yeah. Also known as a TIA. [laughter]
Thank you so much, Larry. We'll let you go to your next interview. We'll keep Scott for a little bit longer and then we'll we'll sign off with him as well. Happy Easter, Larry.
Yeah. Happy Easter to all. And Scott, get better, brother. We'll talk to you.
Nice. Nice shirt. I I I have one upstairs. I just Yeah. [laughter]
I mean, you live in We're wearing our Easter Hawaiian shirts.
This is a requirement in Florida. I just follow the law. [laughter]
Oh, Larry, the audience wants to know where you're headed. What show? RT. RT. There you go, guys. RT.
Okay. Thank you again, Larry. We'll talk soon. Thanks, Larry. Scott, I know you're not feeling well.
We promised you an hour, so do you have any closing thoughts? I don't want to say again that um you know, this this
posting on the part of the president um has to be taken seriously. Um, you know,
I've always said that you you need to study uh Trump very carefully and that one of the best vehicles for studying
his uh behavior is um the apprentice and how he manipulates people, the
psychological games he plays. But more importantly, it's a a vehicle of narcissism. Um it's all about him,
Donald Trump. He's the star. No one else in the show is the star. Only Donald Trump is the star and only Donald Trump
can be the star. Um, and so now we have this war that's going badly, uh, very badly. And Donald Trump, um, is
humiliated by this and he's becoming increasingly frustrated. And you see the, uh, inconsistencies of his statements as he goes back and forth and
back and forth and back and forth. This last statement, frankly speaking, uh should automatically qualify uh him to
be removed as um in, you know, unable to uh continue in office. This is clinical
insanity. Uh the th Amendment should be invoked. JD Vance should be calling people in saying, "We got to stop this right now. We got to pull the plug. Um
this guy is unhinged." Um but what it shows is that Trump is in a panic. This is a president
who is panicked. He doesn't know what to do. And so what he does is he falls back on what he's done his entire life. Bully
people, threaten people, seek to intimidate people. But the bad news is for Donald Trump, Iran's not in the intimidation mode. Um I mean, he made a
a fateful and perhaps fatal mistake in seeking regime change. You don't regime
change a nation with years of cultural heritage. Um these people are proud of who they are. There was an
amazing video I watched of u they have checkpoints throughout uh the various uh towns Tan and other cities where people
hand out sweets and and and they support one. And there was a girl there who was dressed in your standard job mode. She
um and she said, "Look, she had been arrested by the uh morality police just the other day and they gave her options,
you know, option A, option B, option C, and she chose a fine." And they said, "If you um you know, do this again, we'll fine you again." And she's like,
"Well," but she said, "That's between me and them. That's I have my thing, they have their thing, but together we're Iranians, and that's why I'm here today.
I'm at this checkpoint because I want to help my country. I believe in my people." And someone said, uh, you know, are but what if they keep bombing you?
And she said, keep bombing us. Um, but what if you die? Then we die. But we die heroes. We die martyrs to the cause. And this is what Americans don't understand.
See, we don't want to die in America. We don't want to be martyrs. We want to live. We want to, you know, we're looking forward to the next holiday, the
next uh, you know, Xbox upgrade. Um, you know, the things that make our life important. For Iranians,
what makes their life important is Iran. These and their faith. They are faith.
And she is faithful. This girl that wasn't going to wear the hijab. She had her scarf over her head is, you know, beautiful. Um, you know,
took a kofia. Yeah, it was a kofia.
Um, you know, but she is faithful. And these are again I I just tell Americans if you don't know who Ali is, if you don't know who Hassan is or Hussein is
or what Carbala is, then this is why we're losing because then you don't understand what it means to be a ver
faction Shia. Um and what martyrdom means, they're not suicidal, but these are people who will be willing to die
for their cause, for their faith, for their family. Um you know, Ali died for his family. I mean, many say that the
last charge that he did in Carbala was to create a diversion so his family could get away. He committed the ultimate sacrifice. Um, and this is what
these people believe in. And so Trump doesn't understand, first of all, you're not going to bomb Iran into the Stone
Age. These are the most civilized people in the world. I mean, they make Americans I'm sorry. I know the Americans will get upset when you hear this, but we're pathetic in comparison.
We're so shallow culturally. Uh these people are well read, well educated,
better educated than we are. There's a reason why they make missiles that work.
Um and we don't. Um you know, because they're smart. Uh when I was investigating the Iranian nuclear
program back in um the mid s, I spoke with several um IA uh weapons inspectors who had been on the ground in Iran. And uh we're talking about the,
you know, the the foundation of knowledge. She said, "Scott, these guys,
these guys are good. They have the highest percentage of peer-reviewed PhD thesis globally, meaning it's not done
internally. They write their PhD thesis and they're out there." And the reason why I knew that is that the IAEA was going around pulling in these PhD thesis
on nuclear physics going, "These guys know everything. They've solved every problem. There's nothing they don't know." Uh, wait, they they actually know
more than we do. this guy actually is doing things that we're not doing at Lawrence Livermore. Um he said these guys are really really smart and really
really good and it's not just about nuclear, it's about everything and their culture. You know Miranda the you know Muhammad Randy
he's a good friend Christopher you know this you met we saw him in uh in Moscow in uh in October. I I had the honor and
privilege of spending the day with this man um as we toured Moscow. We went to St. Basil's Cathedral. He is soft-spoken, intelligent, warm-hearted.
He's the real deal. Uh you know, he he he doesn't posture one way in public and do something uh in private. And at the
end of the day, um we were approached by uh Stannislov Krypowski.
I butcher the name Stan. Again, I apologize. [laughter] I love him.
But u but Stan was like, "Hey, let's go out." and and um you professor Morandi was like, "Sure, I I'll come out with you." But as it became apparent that we
were going to a bar, he bowed out. He said, "I I I really would love to spend time with you guys, but I don't want to be the one interfering, but I can't go
to a bar. You know, it's just not my faith. I'm pulling back." And all the man's the real deal. He he he's smart,
but his faith is genuine, and it impact, you know, he's not one of these guys.
I've hung out with uh pious Muslims who are pious when they're in the Muslim homeland, but when they get out, they're
anything but pious. Um was the real deal. And I believe the Iranians are the real deal. And we we need to understand and respect that.
We tried to bomb Germany into the Stone Age, didn't work. We tried to buy bomb Japan in the Stone Age, didn't work. Um you know, we did a lot of damage. We
inflicted a lot of harm. But the the thing the Americans also have to understand is when the president makes these statements, he is basically um
stating the intent to commit a war crime.
And this is what every American has to understand. We are already a war criminal nation. We have engaged in an illegal war of aggression. War of aggression is the greatest war crime.
That's what Justice Jackson said at the Nerburgg trials. Uh from this crime, all other crimes are committed. So everything we're doing in Iran today is
a crime. There's no legal justification for anything that we're doing. All of it is criminal. And now he's compounding it
by saying that I'm going to strike power plants. Now people are saying, "Scott,
it's dual use." Hey guys, we're what, days into this war. If this was the primary military related target, we
would have already bombed it. The fact that we bombed it means it's on a do not bomb list because it's a civilian site.
It provides energy for civilians. The bridges are not critical lines of communication for the transportation of military related equipment. Those would have been dropped early on. Instead,
these are civilian bridges just like,
you know, the Golden Gate Bridge. You're going to tell me that's a strategic military target. You're going to tell me the Tapenzee Bridge is. No, we're getting ready to commit war crimes. And
this president is telegraphing this. And again, this is where the th amendment,
this is a time when JD Vance needs to assemble the um the the cabinet and say we we have to shut this thing down. This
man is a disgrace to America. He's out of control. He's incapable of governing because you can't say that you're governing if
mechanism of government is an outright violation of not just international law but constitutional law.
Absolutely spot on there. Spot on.
Uh I do have another clip from Trey. Uh this is about the blowing up of the power plants. Let's see. He's he's quoting Trump, who I don't believe he's quoting, but whatever.
And he told me on the phone that as he was trying to get a deal, the Iranians were trying to push off the negotiating timeline, saying next Tuesday we'll
meet, for example. And the president said, "No, next hour." Because this is a president who wanted to get a deal. He wants to get the the job finished. And
ultimately the Iranians were trying to stretch out that negotiating timeline.
And the president ordered the strike against this critical infrastructure in Iran again to send a message that the United States is not playing games on
the battlefield or at the negotiating table. And so the sense that I got from President Trump is that he is very serious as it relates to these threats
against the Iranian regime when it comes to their unwillingness to make a good faith agreement despite the fact that the president has given them multiple
offramps. And again, he tells me that he ideally will take Iranian oil if they are unwilling to make an agreement. And
so that is a a major development in this conflict. And the president making very clear in his post on True Social that
Iranian power and energy infrastructure will be targeted in the days ahead if Iran doesn't make a deal tomorrow.
Based on your Fox News live from Narnia.
Yeah. You know, first of all, what what world does this president live in where he believes that he can dictate any
outcome to the Iranians? The Iranians are in charge. The president doesn't like this. So,
he's trying to, you know, bully his way in. Um, the Iranians are not looking for an off-ramp.
hour, minuteThey're winning. We're looking for an off-ramp. Two, we are not in direct negotiations with the Iranians. The president is smoking dope. We are
talking to intermediaries who are trying to make contact with Iran, but Iran is saying we don't want to talk to the United States. Um, and they've actually closed the the book on that right now.
So, who is the pre then? The president's negotiating with himself. I mean, this is literally a sign of insanity. Um, and
we need to start calling it out. This man is incapable of governing. He is clinically insane. He suffers from narcissistic personality disorder. Um,
and he should be removed from the equation. Yeah.
Before I let you go, someone a super chat did ask you specifically a question. How does Scott process what he has participated in? What drives him to
tell the truth? I'm sure you've answered this hundreds of times. So, what drives you to tell the truth, Scott?
That's all I've ever known. I mean, people they they they're like, "Well,
you're a Marine, you know, why are you telling the truth?" Because every aspect of my Marine Corps career was built around the premise of telling the truth,
the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. The job of an intelligence officer uh isn't to tell your boss what he or she wants to hear. It's to tell
them the truth. We were told from very beginning intelligence school, if you lie, they die. Um your job is to be
assiduous with the facts. And uh and and that's you know infantry people you know they they die charging hills. Um
intelligence people die defending the truth. During the Gulf War I was
fired twice and arrested once by General Schwarzkpf for telling the truth. Um in the end he
gave me a medal. But um you know the the thing is that you've got to be willing to do it. I mean, I I told Schwarzkov,
"You didn't kill any Scuds when he went on national TV and said he killed seven." Said, "You didn't kill any." And that got pushed up to Coen Pow, who ended up saying, "Ritter is right." So,
I got my job back. Then I went off and did stuff with JC. And um I was accused of starting my own war. Um
because I was telling JC, "You're not killing Scuds. You're not anywhere close to where the Scuds are. You need to redirect over here." And uh General
Downey, Wayne Downing, who is a commander of the JSOC Task Force, um apparently went back to Schwarz and said, "Who the hell is this guy you sent up to us?" And Schwarz said, "Arest
him." And they arrested me and they sent me back to uh RI. They were going to court marshall me. Um I was standing in front of uh Brigider General, the Marine
um deputy operations officer. I can't remember his name right now, but he um you know, as they were getting ready to
read me the the charges, um you know, I basically he said, "Why are you trying to do what you did?" I said, "Because you told me to. You gave me that order."
He said, "We need no such thing." I said, "Absolutely, you did." Because there was a previous mission where I was supposed to go in with the SEALs to do something and I got cancelled at the last second. I was sent up to Delta with that order still in place. So I said,
"You had already cleared me to do something. I was simply doing it." And while he was wrestling with that, um,
the Scud alarm went off. And I said, "I just want to remind you, we're not we're not killing the Scuds. We're not doing what people say you want to do. Why don't you let me go do my job?"
[clears throat] And he released me. Um,
you know, and so I was no longer under arrest. But the the point is, we don't you've got to tell the truth. I mean, I could have I could have walked out of
the uh the Gulf War with a bigger medal and I just played the game and I just done what they did because they were willing to lie, man. Rathon shot down
all the Scuds. Didn't have to tell the truth. Delta Force killed Scuds in the last day of the war. Uh they handed out silver stars to guys for killing
Scuds that didn't exist. Um I could have played that game and walked away with a nice gong, you know, but that's not what the job is. And as a weapons inspector in Iraq, my job wasn't to lie,
fabricate, uh, and and and make the case to for, you know, sustaining sanctions by promoting the notion that Saddam was
not compliant. My job was to find the truth about what happened to the weapons of mass destruction. That was a very difficult job. Like I told you, the vast
majority of my missions after we were going to be taken hostage.
I mean, it wasn't a game. Um, I had pistols put to my head. I was told that my brains were going to decorate walls.
Um, we did this because the job was to find the truth. The whole nothing but the truth. That's that's what it's all about. That's the only thing I've ever
known. So, um, that's what drives me. I mean, it's very simple.
Well, we appreciate it and we appreciate, you know, your courageous stance and all that you do. We know, of course, you've suffered a lot for it.
So, I know that all of our viewers I'm not suffering today. I'm good to go. Not today. No. No. No. Of course, you're good to go. It's nothing good. No. But, you know,
you you bear it. You bear it. I think we all do. We all bear all of the consequences of standing up to the empire, you know. That's just part of our part of our work. That's what we do,
you know. So, everybody's a lot of love,
a lot of love in the chat for you as always. We hope you feel better. We hope you recover quickly and we hope you join us again very soon.
We'd love to see you. I didn't get to see you when you were out here, but hope to see you when you're back here.
Yeah. Um, if you don't mind, I mean, if if you got two , I'll just give you time. I was just in uh Russia. I spent days. Um, when I first went in,
the the first job was in I mean, it's proven. I went in to get Russia to intervene to bring an end to this war. I
feel that strongly that Russia is the only nation has the capacity to broker a deal. And I think the Russians are now moving in that direction. Not because of
what I said, but you know, my goal was to generate a discussion, a dialogue, a debate inside Russia. I did two uh
events. Um, one of which I put out on the Russia house, the cigar club event.
Um, which is fascinating discussion with uh Dimmitri Fersov, a noted historian, and
uh Elena, and I can't pronounce her last name, so I won't, but it begins with a P. Um she's a professor of international
relations at Ingimo which is the principal um foreign service institute for the Russian uh foreign ministry. Um,
and in that we talked about not just nuclear anarchy, what world is without arms control, but also what's happening in the Middle East. And I said, "Russia
must, it's Russia's duty to they're the only ones that that can do this." And I I and what we started got me invited to
the presidential um [snorts] uh academy um where I was able to make the pitch to some some people. So, I feel pretty good about that. It was always a crapshoot,
you know, going in. You don't know how it's going to be received. But the first part of the mission, I feel, was very successful in terms of generating that very dialogue. And again, I'm not taking
any credit, but today the Russians are talking about the necessity of, you know, Russian broker mediation. Um, and
then I went to Cheschna. Um, and I spent five days in Cheschna making a documentary film. And, uh, the two things about it though are, you know,
what I call the Chetchen miracle. how the Chetchens and the Russians came together after fighting two horrible wars and they made peace and and Grosny
in looked like Stalingrad and today it is an amazing city uh just totally rebuilt um and the Chetchen and the
Russians live together in peace and harmony um they are brothers um you see that in the special military operation but you also see it on the ground in in
Chetchi itself and so one of the things I'm trying to do with this documentary is capture this how did this happen what was it that made this happen uh so that
maybe they can apply the lessons of chetchenia to Ukraine, postconflict Ukraine or Iran, postconlict Iran. The other thing that um I explored was the
role that Islam plays in uh in Cheschnia. I was able to spend uh a lot of time with the grand muti of Chetchna
um and talk about the role of Islam and you know Chetchnia stands at the crossroads of you know Eurasia, Russia,
the Middle East, uh Central Asia and um there's a lot more influence than people might um you know again most people are
ignorant about Islam but um to talk about this and um you know so I had very good interviews. We're going to be making a documentary film and all that,
but um I would just say if people want to know more, just go to, you know, my Substack page u and uh you know, real
Scott Ritter. It's free. You can subscribe if you want to, but you don't have to. [laughter]
And the other thing I would say is that uh trips like that only happen because of donations. Um I am a % um
independently funded uh independent journalist. I don't take money from anybody. Um, and so for things like this
to happen, they do require donations. So if people like um what they're doing,
please go to the Substack page and and click the donation. I've got a big trip coming up in June going back. And um uh
a lot of great things planned. Um one of them could be even bigger than what I've already done. Uh but it can't happen unless you know people are willing to to
step up and help. So um I don't like doing fundraising, but that was my fundraising pitch. Everybody go go to Scott Substack and subscribe
and and subscribe and donate because we want to see you back out here. I are you gonna come up for May th or not sure yet?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I if I come, it'll be for u for St.
Petersburg International Economic Forum and Okay, beef. Perfect. Perfect. Well, look forward to seeing you out here very soon. We miss you already.
Happy first Easter and then have a happy second Easter too with the real Easter. This is the This is Yeah, this is the western Easter.
That's right. Yes. We hope you feel better. Great to see you. Thank you.
All right. So, uh the something's going on with the Turk stream.
We have to hear from Something is going on with the Turk stream. What's going on with the Turk Stream?
Well, there was explosives found uh at the uh near the
pipeline and it created a whole big kurfuffle with the Serbians and the Hungarians. In fact, Orban came out and said that Hungary will now be placing
its military near the pipeline to protect the Hungarian portion of Sturkstream. So,
I think I have a clip of Orban. He's taking a break from cooking a ham um to he is he's been cooking a ham for hours. Uh you guys should go check out
that ham. It's very serious ham and he teaches you how to make it. But here he is talking about the other most important thing, oil.
[music]
So, they'll be stationing troops there.
Serbia found the bombs. But the interesting thing that I was looking at last night is that Europe isn't heavily
reliant on the Hormuz for oil. So all of this energy, oh they are relying on
it, heavily relying on it for LNG but not for oil. Just something to keep in mind while they uh while they kind of
put Europe on this idea that they're short on energy.
Also, what do you think do you think of anything any credence to the rumors that Trump is in the hospital?
Trump in the I mean it's possible. I mean he's he's he's plus. Cancelled three masses today. Did not show up.
Cancelled all public appearances yesterday. Put a lid and put a lid on Friday and Friday Friday night.
Ah, but posted about praise be to Allah today. Maybe you that felt like a Pete Hegth tweet. Really?
I think so. And he posted about the the the third world last night and that felt like a Stephen Miller tweet. The if you import the third world, you become the
third world. That was that was that that's Stephen Miller talk right there.
Somebody says he went golfing. There's so much footage of him going golfing.
I don't believe anytime they tell me he's golfing and show me footage.
There's so much footage of him going golfing. So don't buy that. Unless he And why doesn't he have the courtesy to address the American people? He's out golfing and skipping masses.
Come on.
I don't know. We might be in in Hungary next weekend for elections. We'll see.
We'll see. Might be will be guarding the pipeline. Oh god. Where are you going now?
Well, we I can't say, but there might be might be a big Right. Right. Right. I think I know a hint. I think I know. I think I know.
All right. We won't reveal. We won't reveal. We have super chats on this wonderful Easter.
We had a great showing today. I got to say,
oh my god, we hit guys. We hit live on the YouTube, live on the Well, no, now we're up to live on
the app. Yeah, I was like almost on the X.
Thank you all like so much. Lots of It's the true Easter miracle. Well, the funny thing is is that I sent them both messages.
[laughter]
I sent them both messages and I said,
"Oh god, Scott answered first. I'll delete my message to Larry." And you know how on Telegram you can delete it for yourself or for both of you? Well, I
only deleted it for myself. So, Larry saw it and responded and I said, "Okay,
a mega show. This will be fun." And it was fun because I had a difference of opinion. I like that.
I have to play this clip for us because it's so important uh at this this day.
We have to play it. So, hold on. I got to find it. I think it's the All right. Well, while you find it, I'll do a super chat. Yes. Yes. Do a super chat.
To those risking their lives and their freedom to bring us the truth, we pray for your safety. Thank you, Michael. Um,
and again, I'll reiterate, I am near the Canadian border. So, if anybody needs to uh get to Canada, I'm right near British Columbia. Let me know and we will help.
Yes. No good on Easter week. Do you have your clip ready?
Uh, I'm put I'm putting up here. Hold on. Here we go. I think it's here. I think this is the one. So, let me let me take a look here. Okay.
Oh, is that Hold on. Oh my god. He's hopeless. this comment.
Somebody said Jerusalem post right about and I I got excited and I thought maybe it meant like DD like us. If we're ever
in a Jewish or Israeli media, please let us know because that's like I really am dying to be recognized by the ADL or by
Jewish or Israeli media. Um we've already been recognized by American media, so we've um Ask Oh um I think we
asked him that. Did that get covered? If not, I'll send him a message and I'll ask again or I'll I'll make somebody else ask him. But question
was what was the military American military intention to steal uranium? Yeah, I think we covered that. He was Yeah, he was in on that. Do you have your clip?
Uh, yes, but it's a bad clip. Hold on. I'm looking for a better quality one.
I'm having shirts made for my kiddos with Nash Nay Salah's name and imagine
an image. I think he means they share surnames and they generally know what happened to her at Minab. They wear them to school. they will wear them to school
and tell her story. I think that's a fantastic idea. If you need any help getting them made, let me know.
I can I can find a good one, but we'll put it on our Telegram and we'll put it on our we'll put it on Twitter, but it's the one of the Simpsons where it there
it's Easter, but there's an Orthodox priest outside and it's he has a sign. It says it's our Palm Sunday [laughter]
and for us this is our pal this is Palm Sunday. This is not history.
Right. Right. Right. This is this is I had up there. This is Lester, right? And then you have Easter next week. Leester,
thank you Will as always and thanks for all your support. Yingyang, uh, keep up the work. Good work, DD. Praying for the Iranian people and Lebanese and Cuban
emp. Yeah, we have a lot of people to pray for against everybody at this point.
Criminal President Trump. Absolutely. It looks like Russia is going to continue to break that blockade or prove that it's non-existent. And Claudia Shinebomb
came out and said, "Well, if the Russians are ignoring it, we're ignoring it, too. Moving on." like so it looks like I know that Cuba is still in dire
straits but for right now um the paper tiger of the United States is being taken advantage of by both Russia and
and Mexico. Uh so that's a good sign. Um also there's updates about Argentina and Venezuela but they're on the big
account. We won't go into them. What do you want to go into a little bit? oil plan and was it or yeah that I verified that too that
leaked report about the uh I think it's just Israelis I'm not sure that it's Jews um Israelis moving to uh
Patagonia area that's up on the big account with the other work that we did on that topic Greyzone has also done an excellent amount of work on that topic
as well as Data Erhente that's um obviously a South American I believe he is Argentinian I'm not % % either
Chilean or Argentine. But uh data data or hente urgent with an e at the end.
So that uh guys check that out. That stuff is crazy because they're Iran keeps saying we're going to wipe Israel
off the map and Israel saying well we've got another Israel on the map. So
[laughter]
we've got Patagonia, we've got Greece, Cyprus, we've got Kosovo.
Even Taiwan will take them. South Korea will take them.
Oh my god. Oh my god. Zionism is going global.
Zionism. Well, it is globalism. Free America from Zionism. Thanks, DD. Yeah,
we're trying. We're trying. It's a very slow work in progress.
Sarah. Sarah. Storms are brewing in your eyes. Sarah. Sarah. I'm guessing this is lyrics to a song. I think so.
Okay. We'll look I'll look it up later. Maybe it's not of my uh generation.
Trump had a private Easter service with Paula White this Okay. Yeah. Okay.
Right. Great. Then we're really on the on the worst track.
I hear the sound of the coming of the Lord. I hear the sound of victory. Angels are coming from South America.
Angels are coming from Africa. I I have some of it down. I'm working on my Paul White. The angels are coming. I can hear them.
She's banging on the table. I can hear them. And of course I'm like,
what is she doing here? Is she like angels?
They're like, "It's just sounds up to and these people get paid millions of dollars." I'm like, "Millions."
Yeah. I went through a long career. She put out a message today and said,
"The best way for you all to celebrate Easter is to give me more money.
[laughter]
We're doing We're I'm sorry. [laughter]
We don't usually We don't usually speak in tongues on DD Geopolitics. Sorry, guys. The best way to celebrate Easter, at least Catholic and Protestant Easter,
is to give DD geopolitics money
[laughter]
on Easter. The best way to celebrate is to go to church and eat some orb bond ham.
Okay? And you guys, we will try to find we'll we will not sing the habanilla this time. That we saved that for special occasions. We will see you guys on Wednesday. Uh Chris has his guest.
Are you live tomorrow? But I know you have you have a a good live on Tuesday planned. Yeah. So, I'm gonna be live on Tuesday on my show with Dimmitri
Lascaris. Tomorrow, hopefully I'll bring on Jackson to talk about China. We just got back from China. So,
I think Jackson is live right now, too,
if you guys want to hop over there afterwards.
Yes, if Jackson's live, go go check it out. And a lot of good things are happening. And get ready. The next few
weeks are going to be they're gonna be insane. Lit. Yeah.
Possibly Hungary and then a secret location next week. And we will leave you guys with the IRGC statement from the most recent IRG statement. Um, and
other than that, we hope you guys have a fabulous, holy, and very uh reflective Easter Sunday in preparation for the next Easter Sunday of next weekend. Um,
thank you guys again and we will see you all very soon. Lots of love. Lots of love.

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As US Runs Out Of Key Stealth Missile, Iran Plans To Shut 'Next Hormuz Strait'? Mojtaba Warns Trump
Hindustan Times
Apr 5, 2026

Iran has signaled a major escalation by extending its energy threat beyond the Strait of Hormuz to the Bab el-Mandeb, raising fears of a global oil shock. A senior aide to the Supreme Leader warned that a single move could disrupt worldwide energy flows. This comes as reports suggest the U.S. has heavily drawn down its advanced JASSM-ER missile stockpiles during strikes on Iran. Meanwhile, Donald Trump has issued a fresh ultimatum, threatening massive attacks on Iranian infrastructure. With Gulf energy sites already under fire, the conflict is now entering a critical and dangerous phase.

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ran says no to ending Strait of Hormuz blockade amidst confession by Trump | Janta Ka Reporter
Janta Ka Reporter
Apr 5, 2026
Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian has firmly rejected Donald Trump's demand to end the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz by Tuesday. This coincided with another confession made by the US president on arming Iranian protesters in January this year. Elsewhere, the IRGC has claimed to target an oil tanker off the coast of Dubai and petrochemical plants in Abu Dhabi. Rifat Jawaid explains why more and more Western media personalities and experts are openly criticising Trump now.

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CONFIRMED: IRGC Blows Up U.S. F-16 In Dramatic Strike Over Iran? Footage Confirms Big Hit - Report
Times Of India
Apr 5, 2026

Footage reportedly confirms the shootdown of an F-16 fighter jet by Iranian air defences, marking a major escalation in the ongoing conflict. According to Military Watch Magazine, the incident highlights growing vulnerabilities in US and Israeli air operations. Reports indicate mounting losses, including multiple fighter jets and drones, forcing a reduction in deep strikes over Iran. Even advanced platforms like the F-35 have faced damage. These developments signal a shifting battlefield dynamic, raising serious concerns about air superiority and the risks facing pilots in contested airspace.

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US Army Panics As Desperate Trump Exhausts Key Stealth Missile Arsenal In Iran; Russia, China Laugh?
Hindustan Times
Apr 5, 2026

The Iran war is entering a critical phase as the U.S. prepares to deploy nearly its entire stock of advanced JASSM-ER missiles. Reports suggest over 1,000 of these long-range weapons have already been used, sharply reducing reserves meant for other global theatres. With only a fraction remaining, concerns are rising about sustainability and long-term readiness. While these missiles help limit troop exposure, their rapid consumption highlights the scale and intensity of the campaign. As the conflict drags on, Washington faces tough choices between escalation and preserving strategic firepower.

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On Cam: Iran Missile Hits Israeli Homes; Panic In Key Port City Haifa After IDF Fails To Stop Attack
Hindustan Times
Apr 5, 2026

Iran’s latest missile strike on Israel has hit homes in the key port city of Haifa, triggering sirens, panic and a massive emergency response as the I.D.F. admits it failed to stop the incoming projectile. The blast damaged residential buildings in this vital coastal hub, which hosts major port facilities and critical energy infrastructure, sending residents scrambling for shelter and forcing rescuers to dig through rubble in search of survivors. As tensions between Iran, Hezbollah and Israel escalate, this new strike raises fresh questions over Israel’s air defences and the future of the wider Middle East war.

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Mobilize Now’: Hamas Spox Abu Obeida Calls Out All Islamic Fighters To Rise Against Israel And U.S
Oneindia News
Apr 5, 2026

Hamas’ spokesperson Abu Obeida delivers a strong message amid the ongoing conflict with Israel. In his latest statement, he paid tribute to fallen fighters and expressed solidarity with groups across Iran, Lebanon, Iraq, and Yemen. He urged the wider Islamic world to unite and mobilize against Israel, particularly over the issue of Al Aqsa Mosque and controversial prisoner policies. The statement signals rising regional tensions and the potential for broader escalation beyond Gaza.

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'War On US Soil': Iran's Big Escalation Declaration; 'Doomsday' Missiles To Hit DC, NYC, LA?
Times Of India
Apr 6, 2026

Iran has sounded a chilling warning to Donald Trump after the U.S. president in an expletive-laden social media post threatened to attack Tehran's energy infrastructure if it did not open the Strait of Hormuz. According to an Iranian media report, Iran has warned that the consequences of the ongoing war could reach the American territory if Trump makes such move. Trump punctuated his threat with profanity in a social media post Sunday, saying that Tuesday will be “Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran.”