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BREAKING: Feds Original Plan Was For Tyler Robinson To Be Killed In A Shootout! w/ Lionel
The Jimmy Dore Show
Apr 15, 2026 The Jimmy Dore Show PODCAST

Jimmy’s guest Lionel, a former prosecutor and YouTube host, dissects the prosecution's case against Tyler Robinson for the murder of Charlie Kirk, arguing that the state has no eyewitness, no valid confession, and no ballistic match linking the recovered rifle to the crime. He exposes contradictions in the newly released text messages, showing that version 1.0 had Tyler planning to die in a shootout with police, while version 2.0 was created after he unexpectedly turned himself in, alive.

Lionel explains that the prosecution has already stated they will not use the text messages as evidence, leaving them with virtually nothing to prove their case. He warns that Tyler's life remains in danger because if he is eliminated, the case dies with him, and he calls for Tyler to be protected in a secure military facility.



Transcript

They had planned to mow Tyler down,
release version 1.0, fake text messages of Tyler saying he was going to go out on his own terms and wrap everything up
in a nice little bow. What's that they say about the bestlaid plans of Mison men? Tell me if I'm reading this wrong.
You see, Jimmy, trial law is about telling the jury the facts, not the law.
Telling people, let me get this straight. You talked about the breaking down the gun. Now there's this I got
this thing with him. I put together a chair. It makes a hell of a weapon. But he's got to sit there and say, "Okay,
let me take this thing. 306. Hang on a minute. Hang on. Take the thing off. Hang on." And my fed goes, "Oh,
grandpa's going to kill me. Granddaddy got I got that shooting iron. That's the least of your worries. What are you talking about?" Anyway,
so he takes it apart. Okay. Sticks it down his pants, I guess. So he puts it back together again and he's got to
calibrate the the scope. Then he tells his girlfriend or boy, whatever this thing is, I love you. Hey, would you do me a favor? Would you do me a solid?
Would you go get the get the rifle for me? I left it. What? Would you go there?
Listen, don't lawy lawyer up. Be careful. Would you just help me out? The stories don't make any sense. But here's
the best part. Some of these the folks online are terrific. There might have been two versions of this. The first version, as you know, was when he said,
"Well, I'm not going to turn myself in.
No way am I going to get languish for the rest of my life is some cell." Uh-uh. I'm going to go out with a bang. Top of the world, ma. Top of the world.
Well, that's not the one they used. They used the first one that says, "I think I'm going to turn myself in." And they probably thought, "Oh, God, no. Stop."
And he probably told the operatives, "No, no, no. Plan B. Abort. Abort."
What? But we have all this all this text messages. No. He He He turned himself
in. He what? Yeah. Who the hell's in charge of this? Don't you know what we're supposed to? He's supposed to, you
know, Well, he didn't do it. And by the way, he turned himself in not to not to admit, but because they told him, "If you don't, there's gonna you're gonna
have red dots all over you. One day you're going to wake up. So the narrative's gone. But Jimmy, be careful.
They're if I I I don't want to say this,
but if he's if he's ever Epstein, I'll be nobody's going to be surprised with that one. Nobody. Because if there's no remember, no Tyler, no case, no problem.
And guess what, old June Bug or Luna,
whatever the other one's name is in Texas. Same goes for you, honey, because you're an accessory. Did anybody offer you immunity? Because if you testify,
the first thing out of your mouth should be, "I'm taking the fifth. I'm not going to answer anything about anybody." I mean, this boom.
o, here here's exactly what you were talking about, Sam Parker. Uh, great.
Sam Parker, who's been great on this, he says, "The original plan was for Tyler Robinson to be killed in a shootout,
just as we suspected." So, follow closely because it's a little confusing.
And the newly there's been newly released text messages which trace back to the first being divulged by the FBI
by Lance Twigs at what that Lance Twigs which was uh Tyler's lover. Lance Twigs
at 1:00 a.m. uh uh September 12th. Uh the same nightmare that Tyler turned himself in, the same nighttime that
Tyler turned himself in. Tyler allegedly states he's going to call the cops to a certain location and then go out on my
own terms. I have no intention of being drugged through the courts. He says in these texts, these messages were meant to be the paper trail for the shootout
that the conspirators had planned for him. That was their version 1.0. Okay,
that's what they that was the original plan was to say these were the texts that he sent and then they were going to have this shootout and that's why and
that was going to justify it. And uh but that's not what Tyler did. He didn't
call the cops and go out on his own terms.
Thank God and family member something or somebody intervened. He didn't follow whatever the original plan was. He
turned himself in instead, ruining the shootout plan the conspirators had pre-arranged for the psy. That's why the
text messages in the indictment from September 16th say that I'm going to turn myself in willingly. These messages
were the adjustments made in the aftermath of Tyler turning himself in on the evening of the 11th, ruining the
plan. These messages were actually version 2.0. So the text messages we all saw from the FBI, those were their
5 minutessecond plan that had when they scrambled because he didn't Tyler didn't follow through with the first plan and show up and get himself killed.
And when you're the usual psychic in Las Vegas and the Butler guy and Lee Harvey,
at least you can say, "Let's get him when he's there with the with granddaddy shooting iron. Get him there." and some
eagle-eyed cop, you know, dispatches him on the spot. Well, guess what? He was nowhere near there. Y
that's the part. He's walking around and all of a sudden you hear this and you probably thought somebody's shooting. It's me. Me?
He's the only guy ever to be a part of a conspiracy he didn't know about. He didn't know any of the people. How can you do that? But listen, Jimmy, comes down to this. I'm a lawyer.
I'm going to say, great. Let's tee it up. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I represent this guy here, Tyler. Now,
here's what we're going to do. They have got to prove beyond into the reason beyond to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt that this was aggravated murder that he shot Charlie.
He So, what do they have? Two things. Eyewitness. Nope. Nope.
A confession. We'll get to that in a moment. They think there's a confession.
Well, it depends what you mean by confession. You see, there might be a summary. There might for this guy, he
never really lands on it. Yeah, guys, it was me. It was you. What? Well, it was what? What do you mean it's me? What
does that mean? Sounds like a like like a self-help book. It's me. What does that mean? Me? Um, uh, oh, he the the
you you have to authenticate these things, too. If all of a sudden I come in and that they've got, hey, Jimmy Doors left all these nodes here. Excuse
me. I have to authenticate this. Anybody know your handwriting? Let me look at this. Who says this? Not only that, when you have text messages, we have a thing
called the best evidence rule, which I don't want to get into, but I just can't talk about things that I read. I can't tell you about, well, you know, there
7 minuteswas a the contract said this, the sticker said this, the sign said this.
It's like, wait a minute, you're talking about a document here. So also you need to have somebody come in who knows what they're doing and authenticate that this
message came from his phone and that that phone is what this because you know and I know whether it's any of these big tech folks who maybe are spooks or
palenteer or god knows who they can make you say anything you can admit to you
know killing the count rishelu whatever on your phone so they have to authenticate this not to mention when they actually ask act as ask um uh Mr.
Twigs uh did did he tell you? Well, I'm I'm summarizing and I know you're not supposed to do this. I know that
defendants are not supposed to take the stand, but I would tell them Tyler, you're in on the trial for your life.
You're going to get your ass there and I'm going to ask you questions and I want that jury to see just what a dumbass you are and I'm going to say this is the killer and I'm going to say,
"Did you do this?" "No." "Did you admit to it?" "No, I was there. I might have been there. I There's no such thing as
that. So, let's assume let's assume that I say, "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, if you go back and you find him
guilty best on a base, rather on a confession, would you tell me where it was? I can't find it. Where is it? He
didn't confess. He's a guy who turns himself in, goes to the sheriff's office and says, "I'm not going to talk to you.
I'm going to Miranda." Oh, no. No. I'm not going to tell you. I'm going to turn myself in. I'm not going to tell you.
I'm going to tell my parents in kind of cryptic, weird, coded messages. So,
let's let's just throw that out of the way. There is nothing. Then we talk about the gun and they say, "Well,
there's no match, Jimmy. This is a lint brush. There's no match here either. There's no connection to the murder.
This lint brush is as relevant as that rifle. So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to file a motion to suppress and a
motion in lemony that says nobody's going to mention a rifle because once they see that big thing with a rifle,
they're going to think of the manicer caro. They're going to hearken back because there's no connection there. Not only that, I want to find out what is
what is the me? So, what what's in what what did they get out of out of uh Charlie? Fragments metal ore or or plastic?
There's all you've heard it from exploding microphones to whatever it is.
Also, if you thought the magic bullet was good with JFK, this thing goes in,
hits a cervical color, goes down, goes up, it it it granulates, it atomizes, it just pulverizes because if his diet, I
mean, this story is there's nothing there. So, if I kick out the gun and if I kick out the admission, guess what,
folks? That's not guilty. And there's no way they're gonna let this guy walk.
10 minutesCapich? No way. He can't because they're gonna because all this stuff, this was supposed to be taken.
Yep. That's exactly. Well,
and all they had to do if you wanted to get rid of Charlie, you could have done it very very easy. Much easier.
But they wanted to do this publicly grand style. Grand. So, let me just let's just get back to just so if people
aren't exactly clear on what what's happening with this new release of these new text messages. And the kicker is
spoiler alert, they're not even going to use any of these text messages in the trial. They've already admitted that.
But let's go back to what they're now releasing because there's two different there's the text messages 1.0 and text messages 2.0. And so, let's go to this.
when Lance Twigs shared the text messages from the original plan on what was essentially also the evening of the
11th, 1:00 a.m. September 12th is basically the night of the 11th. The conspirators hadn't yet had time to
react to Tyler going off the script. All Lance had at that moment was version 1.0 where he was going to get himself
killed. So, that's what he shared and that's what made it into the FBI file and that's what's been newly released.
By September 16th, the conspirators had had time to react, and they forged new false messages of Tyler, saying he was
going to turn himself in because that's what Tyler ended up doing. Again, these were version 2.0, but the text that
Lance Twig shared the night Tyler turned himself in reflected the original plan,
version 1.0. Tyler was going to meet the cops and go out on his own terms.
Remember, he didn't want to be drugged through the courts, but you don't turn yourself in if you don't want to be drugged through the courts. So, they had
planned to mow Tyler down, release version 1.0, fake text messages of Tyler saying he was going to go out on his own terms, and wrap everything up in a nice
12 minuteslittle bow. What's that they say about the bestlaid plans of bison men? Tell me if I'm reading this wrong. So, here it
is. September 16th, indictment text left version 2.0, I know. Newly released text messages from the early morning of September 12th below. So, here it is.
So, here's what they're going with. I'm going to turn myself in willingly. One of my neighbors is here at a deputy for
the sheriff. But here's what the original right Tyler. Not yet. But I have no doubts that they will be on me within the hour
and I will give my location up and going out on my own terms. I have no intention of being drugged through the courts in
front of the country. Can I come see you? After that, I can call my dad and see if he's willing to help me or not.
So that So, let's go a little bit further. We're supposed to believe that in the same message conversations between Tyler Robinson and Lance Twigs,
the following contradictions happened.
Tyler worries about retrieving the gun because he doesn't want to leave any evidence behind. But then he had already planted a note and now sends a bunch of
messages leaving a ton of evidence behind. He then says he's sorry to involve Lance Twigs, but then he involves Lance Twigs.
Yeah.
He says he's sorry about being the one that killed Charlie and assertively explains that he needed to kill Charlie to stamp out hate. He says he wanted to
take the secret to his grave, but then he confesses to the crime to all his discord buddies, then says he's going to willingly turn himself in.
He says he wanted to live to old age,
then decides to go out on his own terms with the cops. Now, he says he doesn't want to face a court system, but then he willingly turns himself in to face the
court system. These are all the contradictions in one text message. And after that wild conversation full of nothing but immediate contradictions, he
confessed to his parents, retired detective friend, and LDS bishop, and posted his confession to Discord right
14 minutesbefore turning himself in. And then he refused to confess to the cops, right?
So he confessed to his parents, he confessed to his discord, but then when he eventually does turn himself in, he doesn't confess. Did I miss any other
contradictions? Yes, you did. And if that's still not enough, the prosecutor's written argument opposing the defense's motion for delay
continuance of the preliminary hearing says this. Get this. The state does not intend to offer evidence obtained through forensic extractions of
electronics seized in this case. Meaning that all those messages that are being publicly released aren't even going to be used in the prosecution. What the f?
What do you say to all that, Lionel?
Well, what are you going to use? This is what I'm going to say. Tell me right now. You've got to prove number one,
some kind of agency, something. Are you going to use a conf? Because nobody saw it. You're going to use some kind of admission, right, Mr. Prosec? And this
is the way you you would speak. I would say, prosecutor, Jimmy, what are you going to do? Show me tell me what you're going to do. Just so that I know. And you can and also you also want to get
the judge involved because you're going to tell the judge parathetically, hey,
judge, guess what? Is this an elected official position you're in? Yeah. Guess what? Guess what? You're going to you're you're going to make judge Ido look like
learned hand when we get done with this one. You better putt this dog cuz you're going to end up looking like a fool. You understand what we're doing here, judge?
Whoever you pulled the wrong case with this one. It's a dog. So ask them how are you going to prove it? Because all
because the idea of the preliminary hearing is do you have enough? You got to have probable cause. And the definition of probable cause is he probably did it. So that's okay. But
here's the thing. Tell me now, let's assume you're going to do what? I I'm I'm telling you, don't be surprised if Tyler gets on the stand and said, "I
never said any of this stuff." And what if they get Lance who says, "He never said this. What's all this business?
Where where did this come from?" I don't know. Then there's no gun. There's no rifle. There's no nothing because there's nothing to link it. Remember,
this is a lint brush. I could bring that in. Now, what if I walked in? Jimmy,
what if you walked in and you said you you show up at Orum or wherever the hell this place is and you say I'm going to beat these people to it and you say,
"Hi, listen to me. I'm Jimmy Door and I did it." Just here you go. I did it. I killed him. What do you mean? I did it.
I did it. I was there. Look, here's a picture of me with a smile. Look, I'm taking a selfie. That's me. I did it. Now arrest me. They say, "Whoa, whoa,
whoa. Wait a minute. How do we know you did it? Look, I'm telling you I did it.
You arrest this guy. He didn't even tell you he did it. I'm telling you I did it." They wouldn't arrest you. I know.
Where's your gun? You don't have a gun either. I got a lint brush. That'll do.
They would say, "Get out of here. You're crazy." So, some people would say, they go, "No,
Lionel, they do have the gun." But what you don't understand is they can't match it up with ballistics. A but even more
suspicious is that when the uh the bomb sniffing gun dogs went over there, they couldn't find the gun. The cops couldn't find the gun. Nobody could find the gun.
The FBI shows up and the minute the FBI shows up, they find the gun. So, you tell me why. You know why the dogs couldn't smell could couldn't smell the dog?
Because it never was fired, right? Cuz that gun was never fired.
They can smell a fish fart. They they can they can Are you kidding me? And all of a sudden they're sniffing around.
They're going, "What is it? What?" And not even even residue from whatever.
They never took GSR testing of him, I don't think. his clothes, his cheeks,
any any public. Also, if we get to this point, if we get to this, I want to bring in my experts and I'm going to
bring in gunnery sergeant Jimmy Door, US Marine Corps, retired. I'm going to say,
Gunny, did you try to do this? I sure did. Did you use your weapon? I sure did. And you're good at this, right?
I've got to get angle. I got to get temperature. I got to get all this stuff. It's it's to get this shot here which looked like an exit one but anyway
I'm going to do this and this guy first time using this iron this crappy scope
the breathing not shaking this is your f this is this is opening night man you got this is it and you're going to be
Lee Harvey you know Robinson this is your shot through and you did it perfectly and like you said let me take it apart let me
and put it back together again. None of it makes any sense. Then we get into the idea of we haven't even looked at the
forensics. I want to see a picture of him. I want to see wounds. I want to see everything. And I'm going to bring in my
Michael Bodms and everybody else that I've got here. I'm going to say, "Look at this. What is this consistent with?" Just for the And somebody might say,
"You know what? Let's stop." No. No. I want the world to know we found plastic.
This isn't even metal. What's this? Then you get into the whole thing about they may say cut, cut. Because remember
though, I'm going to go back to what I'm saying. If something, God forbid,
happens to Tyler, this is moot. It's over. Y it's done. We move on. So this guy, you
better pick him up, take him to a to an Air Force base or a hospital, which is what they do. You put them in a room
with all kinds of sensors, cameras that can tell drops in in in temperature. There's something called new son of bun.
The black art of poison is so good,
Jimmy. I could give you something every single day. You're drinking and you're fine. And then I give you this other stuff. Seems like a sandwich. No big deal. And when this binary thing kicks,
all of a sudden you are night and the residuals will be potassium elevated or nothing big. They can do so much stuff.
This guy's walking around and he I don't think he realizes it. And I got news for Twigs. He's walking around in Texas and
there he's waving to people and say, "Do you Oh, what about the FBI agreed to protect him at first?" Then they said, "You know what? You're on your own."
What? Yep. When they pulled the security detail, that's a hint.
Yeah. Yeah. It's just like that. like the Secret Service guy when they they he was told to leave HJFK's car, he's like,
"What's going on?" That's exactly what they're doing. Ex precisely.
So, um, do you have a theory of the case of what actually happened? Oh, well,
well, before we get to that, let me ask you this. You because you're because you're, you know, you're a lawyer and you know about this kind of stuff. Do
you find anything suspicious or shady or out of the ordinary how his defense team got uh created?
You know, I don't there there were some questions about uh conflicts of interest. Uh I don't know. I got news
for you. Unless you're there in the courtroom, unless you really see and talk to these people, you don't know anything. They could be the best. They
might just be. You see, remember one thing for these quote preliminary hearings, your strategy is you're the defense. You don't say anything. Bring it on. Show me what you got. Prove your
case. Now, normally if there's a case where they go to the grand jury where they've already established probable cause by virtue of the indictment, we
don't have preliminary hearing, but this is different. So, you just want to sit back and say, "Go ahead. Let me see what you got. Bring it on. Let me see." And
then they dumped like 12 gig. There were more pages than stars in the firmament. you know, they got to go through this. We've seen this before.
But they're they're going to be extending this. They're going to be continuing this. They're going to give him the chance.
But what's going to happen is there's Oh, what about this? Here's Erica. It's like Jimmy Swagger. Uh, hell, she goes,
"I forgive him." Yes. But I'm also filing a motion for speedy trial to to railroad this guy's ass and get him out
of there. Because in Utah, unlike a lot of states, the Sixth Amendment, you you have a right to a a a public and a
speedy trial. It's the defendant's right. Here, they kind of have like, listen, we'll take it under advisement, you know, to speed this up, you know,
move it on down the line. So she conccominantly wants to give him I forgive him, but as far as your your your your trial goes right up yours,
buddy. You're on your own. You're going to be packing cracking rocks upstate showering with people you don't want.
That's fine, but I forgive you for the record.
Yeah. All right. So, G, let's go to your theory of of the case. Okay. In terms of what who did what?
Yeah. Like how what what do you have a theory on what actually happened and who's involved? who might because it's obvious there's an FBI cover up happening and everybody at TPUSA is
lying through their teeth. So, they're part of the cover up. I don't I can't say they were part of the the assassination, but they're definitely
part of the cover up as far as I can can tell. So, I have a theory of it, but I'm just wondering if you have a theory.
My my the way, put it this way, the way I would do it is I would make sure nobody knows anything. I want everybody to Do you see how these people are
23 minutesstanding around here? Standing there next to them. If you if I told you,
"Hey, Door, listen. The shots coming in at . Stand next to him." Yeah. I hope he doesn't miss. You're going to say, "I'm not getting anywhere near
here. God forbid a gust of wind and they're walk." So, I mean, these the the the people that obviously people are looking at foreign, you know, the whole
Joe Dent thing, the foreign part. You have people ex exculpating themselves immediately before anybody even called them. And you know how that goes. You have foreign.
One of the people though that if you think about this who would have a motive for this somebody somewhere wants to go out with a bank. So who really wants to have a motive? One of the ones that I
would and I'm not suggesting this but I would like to see who in you know one of the things that Charlie did before is he says I I want a kind of a doze review of this. I don't know where all this money.
Do you see these people they take a Gulfream a G I've never been on a private plane in my life. They take this they they they take it to go to
7-Eleven. They take a plane. So, where's all this money going? And you see their homes. Yes.
These people and all the shell companies that they have and Yes. I mean, the wolves and and finance have done great work on this.
And I don't want to do any I don't want to go DEI on you, but is there a brother in the group? This looks like some kind of Aryan. I don't know like boys from
Brazil. This like this chromosomal. Who are these people? But I would like to see is there anybody there who might
figure, you know, this is not going well with any investigations. So if this were to look like some stupid stage, you know, it's a robbery, take the wallet,
nobody knows, I want something big. And I would, my question was, if I was there, I would have sealed that area
off. Nobody would leave. I'm going to take pictures of everybody. You're not going to go. And the last thing I'm going to do, Jimmy, is pave it.
Pave over it. Remember after JFK, what did they do? They immediately cleaned the car. Yep.
And they also fixed the windshield from the bullet that entered the opposite direction, which destroys it. So, we can talk about who was it.
Something tells me that when we find out, it's somebody who wanted to make it look like something else. something that
I don't know why I have to I have to know more about the trajectory. I have to know what's in him before I guess who could be anybody. But
I do think this as far as foreign entanglement look you know and I know Charlie was an important person. He was a big he was a he was he was a you know
a maher a big guy but I do not believe that with all of the anti- sentiment regarding all kinds of countries in the world that he was that critical and that
important that he must be removed to stop the negative publicity that's coming our way. Are you kidding? He was
a part of it. So I but then again that that implies that people are rational.
Now what's your theory? My theory is that he had woken up to the fact that TPUSA was a Zionist uh construct from
the beginning. Uh as well as his wife was a honeypot put into his life. That the people closest to him were all all
scops working uh for whatever organization, maybe through the Mossad,
maybe not, maybe with the CIA, maybe some of them had their own self-motivation because they were committing financial crimes. I think it
was a combination of things. I think the fact that if you look at um Mikey McCoy,
his reaction to when Charlie got shot or got uh imploded or exploded with his microphone, whatever it was, happened
before he even fell off the chair, Mikey McCoy was on the phone and he walked away. And the excuse was that that Charlie had beaten into their heads,
pounded into them that if something happens to me, you immediately call Erica. You I I would just like to see how they if they if they ever try to
practice this. Okay, practice. Mikey, if I get shot, what do you do? I call 911. No, you don't call. You call Erica.
Mikey, let's try this again. I get shot. What do you do? I get you first aid. No,
you call Erica. Okay, let's try it again. Mikey, what if I What do you do if I get shot? I make sure the ambulance is coming. No, you make you call Erica
and you have six lugs jam me into an SUV and I'm my legs are hanging out the car all the way to the hospital and we pass
by the first hospital. We go to the one farther away and then that SUV gets cleaned like JFK's limo and immediately sold. That's by the way. Go ahead.
By the way, Jimmy, if anything happens to me, make sure you get all of the SD cards out of all of the cameras. Leave the cameras. They're worth a fortune,
but get the SD cards and start going like I mean, I don't even know where to where do we start with this thing? Who?
But the thing is, go ahead, sir. So, I think that Mikey McCoy, my uh opinion,
my theory is he was he was definitely in on it. And I think that Brian Harpull,
28 minuteshis security guy was in on it because they got caught lying about the drones.
They got caught lying about doing the walkound and securing the PL. They don't You don't have a guy looking at the roof. Really, you don't. A You don't
have a guy looking at the It's a small space. People again, just like Butler,
Pennsylvania, people in the crowd saw somebody on that roof. Guess who didn't?
His million-dollar security team. None of the campus police. None of the city police. Nobody saw him except the guys in the crowd. So there
they didn't And what's that?
They didn't And they and then they didn't fire the security team. And the security team didn't have any they say they have weeks. He Brian Harpole said in his
interview, he said weeks ahead of time they plan this stuff out and how everything's going to work. Well, he had another engagement at another college
the week the next week. They had no airline tickets. They had no hotels.
They had no logistics planned out. So they knew he wasn't. So there was definitely his security team was in on it. And I think definitely Mikey McCoy
was in on it. And the fact that they keep lying about not only that, but their planes Erica and Tyler Boyer are being caught by Candace lying about the
planes and when they flew to you saw you saw if you watch Candace, it's unbelievable what she's uncovering and and also Baron Coleman. They're lying
about that. There was another shooter now that Baron Coleman has discovered that there might have been another people have reported seeing another
shooter and you never hear about that other shooter. There's all kinds of stuff. So there's a I think there were a lot of people with fornowledge. Baron
Coleman thinks Garrick Kirk had foreign knowledge and I think that Charlie Kirk had figured out that everybody around him was dirty which is why he c he
ordered the Doge thing and why he had turn they lied about his meeting at the Hamptons and they lied about Benjamin Netanyao offering him money to go along
with it and you know it was that it was him that he got credited with stopping Trump from starting the Iran war the first time in June and so I think he was
seen as a big impediment to the Iran I think he was the first casualty of the Iran war. So this is that's my theory.
Well, that is certainly plausible. I will tell you this, if I were to do it,
I would have had no none of these uh judles anywhere near any planning of this because if you get a Mikey McCoy,
you put a little bit of heat on them and he will sing, he will compose. You don't want these people involved in any of this. You want somebody to come along
and say, "Okay, and that's it." All of a sudden, this guy leaves. What happened?
Goes just watch what happens. That's the way it normally is done. But but the thing about it is that I would also ask if in in my crazy fantasy world here,
I'm going to say, "Hey, Candace, I got you a front seat. Would you mind coming in there?" All of a sudden, she walks in and sits down in the front seat during the trial. Who's that? Candace was right
there. She's not a witness because they have the rule of sequestration. If you if you're a witness, you can't testify.
So, just have her sit there. Joe Lewis used to do that, but they would bring Joe Lewis to sit in trials and oh my god. Or later on, believe it or not, if I ever said, "Did you ever prosecutor,
did you ever talk to any of the people who did Baron Coleman and others and and Candace?" No. Did you ever call them?
Did they ever make Yes. Well, let me do this. Now, I'm going to call her. State your name for the record. Candace. Did anybody ever call you? No. Did you offer
No. So, you mean to tell me you've got people coming forward and you put out call 1800 tips. Is this your Did you do
the 1800 tips? Here's the tips. You never listen to these people.
You know, Baron Coleman, what what he does, it's like the genealogical thing.
He plums the depth so deep. I'll bet you half of these people didn't realize that they had these many companies. No kidding.
It's But but this is But also remember something.
When when OJ was OJ, there wasn't social media.
That's right. But this is social media with these people who come along and they're not just I mean they're not just
commentators they how they un Jack Anderson move over. So this is a
new era. This is it. And yet if you watch cable news because if you're they they allow one minute and whatever you tell them they
found a confession that's it. Remember when they had experts from uh I don't know who saying, "Well, just
because just because the bullets didn't match, that's not exoneration." Let me remind you this is a lint brush. There's no connection to it. Don't tell me that.
So, Lyla, what what do you also make of the fact you brought you bring up cable news. What is what do you make of their
in curiosity? Because this sounds like the story that would be right up the alley. I'm old enough to remember John Benet Ramsay. It was for years they
talked about that non-stop 24/7. They have barely talked about this case or the contradictions or any of the evidence that. So what do you make of their in curiosity?
Notice how they're talking about Eric Swallwell more about it. Who the hell cares about Eric? We know more about this fang fang and dung dung and boom.
We know every little thing. But this,
you know, one time I gotta tell you this, one one time I took don't ask people this muscle relaxing and I was I
said, "What the hell is the matter with me?" And and I read one of the side effect the effects and it says lack of concern. Well, that's what I think everybody that's in the water cooler.
They're like this. Okay. Well, coming up, things in your bathroom that can kill you and a rat pulling a piece of pizza. The latest twerking face. They
don't care. And I'm saying where have you what is your connection to to Tyler Robinson? Why do you feel this
compunction to either railroad him or not even investigate? Tell me. Tell me.
And they'll say because why? Because they're they're going to shutter these newsrooms and they're saying don't make any waves. No hits, no runs, no errors.
just don't do anything because we are Barry Wise will come in or whatever
they so this by the way this Jimmy this we are not the future we are the present
this is cutting edge do you remember when disco died I don't I don't know if it was a Tuesday or Wednesday I can tell
you exactly when the news it's dead it's morbin it is putrescent it is decaying.
It's through. And every single day these people, this is my favorite. And when President Trump, bless his heart, said,
"You know, you and Tucker and you're just upset cuz you don't have a TV show." A TV show. How about a short wave
show? How about something with a baby monitor? How about CB? I don't have I'm I mean, what what this is? Hello.
This is it. And don't you think for a moment that people are watching this and people are thinking, "Hey, what whatever
these two guys are talking about, I want to know." Gotcha.
Yeah. Well, uh, Lionel, do you have a How do you see this, uh, ending up? Do you see this ending up a certain way?
Uh, you already said that you can't see them ever letting Tyler Robinson go.
They can't do that. What are they going to do?
If this were anybody else, they would probably do this. They'll make him a deal. They'll say, "Listen, how about if we drop this down to manslaughter, do a
couple of years, just keep your mouth shut or or maybe something happens in prison." I don't know. Uh it's not going
to be this the death penalty. Not even close. I'm Listen, this my I would say,
"Uh-uh. We're going to tee it up. I want an acquitt." Can you imagine a quiddle?
An aqu quiddle. And And let me tell you something else. Don't be surprised if people in whatever level of Black Ops,
you find a couple of people in the field whose jobs you have. You You had remember the the meme? You had one job.
This was the story. Hey, suicide by cop. What the were you doing? He comes out.
You he confess what are you? But did the story line? It's like we we had the programs. We had the we we had the the
Wikipedia already written up and everything. Was it gone? No, you never saw it coming, did you? You never saw it coming. And by the way,
how about that sheriff who stepped down? What was that all about? What was that about? Yeah. Yeah.
Where where's he? Don't be surprised if all of a sudden they they do a William Casey on him. He's out hunting and don't go hunting and don't go fishing. Believe me. Oh, I'm serious.
One more thing. When when Epstein was found remember this there were two things that two things that most important hyoid bone and thyroid
cartilage fracture that's strangulation that it's not liature that is not suspension it's not done Bill Bar looked you in the face and Crazy Eyes Patel and
Dan Bonina looked at you in the face and said take my word for it this is it was absolute
they look at you and they lie they don't lie They just it's like an act or it's a role or it's it's it's their they they
convince themselves that it's for a better good. Nobody ever said ever looked at this and said he didn't he
didn't he did not kill himself and this has become commonplace and what also is talk about in curiosity people are found
dead how 10 11 12 20 uh nuclear
scientists and people with u UFOs and don't no do you see a pattern here murder she wrote remember I got to tell
you this number one the number one uh um format in radio, true crime. True crime,
my ass. This is true crime and nobody cares about it. They're they're trying to unearth cases 50 years ago. You know,
the Sam Shepard murder. No, look at this. It it it blows my mind.
So, what So, what are they going to do with them?
Well, I can only tell you what I'm I'm sorry. I don't want to say this officially, but I'm going to say don't buy the green bananas. Uh Tyler because
if I know this you cannot be allowed to talk you cannot be what if you get about
imagine this dine you know when dine matters or you get that Morrison guy well let's see about
what you do where he says where this guy came in there and says you don't understand something I'm a little shingad I'm out of my mind I was there I
didn't know there was a guy who told me to go there oh you didn't know about him You're going to There are facts out there you don't know about. Why did you
get there? Why did you drive three how many hours to do what exactly? I mean,
oh, and I love this. They said, you know, they found a his his fingerprint on it. It's his gun.
It's his gun. And who are the other DNA people? What are you talking?
They found like six people's DNA on that on that rifle according and his that So,
that's supposed to be some gotcha. And the idea that he confessed, he never confessed. He only confessed in those madeup text messages that the FBI
concocted. that he didn't confess to his father. That was a lie. He didn't confess to the cop. Yet you have journalists out there like Michael Shelonburgger out there publicly saying
that he did confess. Michael Shelberg got dismantled by Joe Rogan over Epstein and the And then he's lying. I caught
him lying about Tyler Robinson. And what's the one through line through those two things is Israel intelligence.
That's the And so and and he's obviously working somehow for them. Go ahead. No,
no, but but but but the point is the all these narratives, not only is there there there's no curious curiosity about anything, but the real story is that if
you get in Oh, let let me explain. When you get too far, when you go too far, you're aing a conspiracy theorist.
40 minutesYou're a tin foil hat lunatic. By the way, it's not tin. It's aluminum. We haven't worn tin in years. And as Gorbal says, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm a conspiracy analyst. Yes,
this is a legitimate this is a conspiracy of two or more guilty people confederated to bring about something.
But this is the only guy in the history in the annals of American juristprudence in jeritical history Tyler Robinson who was a conspir who conspired with nobody.
Nobody they conspired against him.
Yes. Well, isn't it amazing that we have a rash of lone nut shooters? Right. So Luigi Manion straight A student lonut
that crooks lay straight A student lone nut. Uh, now we have Tyler Robinson, straight A student, lone nut, all these.
Did they go to some lone nut shooter camp in the summer or something? And how to not get noticed on a roof? They didn't notice crooks until after he took
the shots. They don't They never got to Tyler Robinson, he's able to take apart a gun. Not only that, he changed his clothes. According to the gun, he changed his clothes on top of the roof.
41 minutesHe to puts together a gun, lines up the shot, takes the shot, and then after he takes the shot, he then takes the gun apart again, and nobody sees him. No
cops run up there. No security runs up there. And then he he leaves the he leaves the uh screwdriver up there. That's going to come back to haunt him.
And then he I don't know what he does with the gun. He takes it apart. It doesn't fit in his backpack. It doesn't fit down his pants. And but he puts a a a towel over it and he sometimes he
Spider-Man's his way off to protect the fingerprints.
Yeah. Uhhuh. Spider-Man's his way off the roof. He runs through campus. Nobody sees this guy carrying a un put together gun. He gets into the woods. He puts it
back together. but without the screwdriver. He's a regular MacGyver.
And then he plants it in the backyard of the house owned by Palanteer. Holy cow.
And goes to Disney uh Dairy Queen for a Frosty. Goes for Frosty. Yes. Cool as a cucumber.
So I think that there's military involved like Candace Owens says. I don't know if it's F. So she also the French there's a a a sect of the French
42 minutesmilitary that are Freemasons that just got indicted by their own government for being an assassination squad and she had
predicted that and she Anyway, so it there's way more here than people think and thank God for podcasts and YouTube
shows uh like yours and Candace and Baron Coleman and this show and wolves in finance. They're they're we're
not going to let this die. And and let me just tell you something. You would be you would be great at this if I said, "Jimmy, do the closing. Do the closing." And you walk up and you tell,
"Ladies and gentlemen, let me get this straight." Let me tell you a story. By the way, I'm going to do this. I'm going
to bring in my gunnery sergeant, James Door, USMC. Hey, Gunny, take this apart. Just a minute. God,
screws are frozen and you And then you can also tell if the screws have been real. Here, come on. Here's a quick go.
Let me time you go. Hurry up.
Okay, take it apart now. Put it down your pants. Put it in my pants. What are you talking about? Now put it together again. Again. You see this guy? This guy
who who can field strip a mouser under fire and he's trying to take this thing.
And meanwhile, granddaddy saying where the hell is my rifle? He was worried about granddaddy worried about my shooting iron.
Yeah. But it was the Amos McCoy to Walter Bennett really look you know I mean just it's it's the more you plum
the it's like Mandler's fractalss you keep going deeper and deeper and deeper and there's more and more and more it it's nuts but don't you never know that
by watching cable TV you would never know it you would never know it sir and what I tell people is that if no matter what part of this case you look
at no matter if you look at the FBI story or you look at the text messages or you look at the security det detail
or you look at the people at TPUSA's story or you look at the fact there wasn't an ambulance. You look at the fact that they took him to this hospital
that the FBI went and took all the videotape from that house the whole them lying about the planes they took to get there. No matter what you look at it's a
mill it's filled with a myriad lies. Go ahead.
And no no tape of of of uh of Tyler walking into the 30 30-day rule or something.
It's just like there's no pictures of of NASA, you know, the the moon landing.
Yeah. that. Yes, that's right. They had that that all got destroyed. What they actually showed the press was a projection that the NASA put on a wall.
They're like, "Can't we get the original feed?" And NASA's like, "No, this is good." Yeah.
And don't forget, they also had a windbreaker on on the moon. That's all I'm going to tell. I don't want to get into that.
Listen, is there something wrong with us, Jimmy? Seriously, why ye of little faith, why do we ask questions? Why?
What was that? What was your red pill moment where you said, "I don't believe this. I don't believe what's the matter
with us. These people are happy. We're walking around. We can't sleep at night.
Oh my god. The the the neighbor and what happened to us? There's a lot more of us. It's incredul is the fact that it
insults our intelligence. And also in all cander, in all seriousness, it's justice for Charlie. They killed that kid. And this guy doesn't deserve that.
And as long as we're here, somebody's going to have to fight for him. Candace is leading the pack. And if I can help, I'm here reporting for duty. Sir,
when I was a kid, I grew I was grew I grew up Catholic.
And uh Me too. I went to Catholic school.
And when I was when I was a kid, there used to be these things. You know what they're called? I'll explain to the audience. They're called days of holy obligation. Oh yeah.
Meaning you have it's not you have to go to church every Sunday. And if you don't, if you skip without confessing,
you go to hell. Right. That's what I was taught. And then there's also days on top of Sundays that are called holy days of obligation that you also have to
attend church. And if you and there used to be like I can't remember the exact number, but let's say there were 20 of them a year outside of the regular Sundays you had to go. When I was a kid
in Catholic school, they they br they got rid of them and it was only like eight now. Now there's only eight. And I was like, well,
46 minuteswhat about all the people in hell because they skipped the ones that aren't even compulsory anymore and they didn't have an answer for me. And so
ever since that was my red pill that was I was like wait a minute I think some of this stuff is so that's I've been suspicious of authority ever since then.
I'm not sure how old you are but in my I'm I'm uh I'll be 68 in August. Okay.
So when I was a kid we had this thing called uh uh limbo. Remember limbo? Yes. Remember limbo.
Now you're you're really old because you ask people limbo you means Harry Bellfonte. No limbo. This is where unbaptized babies went.
That's right. Excuse me. What if they were born be another place? What if they were born they died before? I don't know. So I asked a priest. I said,
"Listen, I got to ask you something.
This is unfair. These kids didn't do anything." And he says, "Well, it's like a thimble full of water and a bucket full of water. They're both full, but one's less." I said, "What the hell does that mean?"
What does that mean? What about that? I said, "Excuse me,
back to my question. What about the hair? Here's your thimble. I got to take a quick one real quick. You remember the guardian angels? Not Curtis Lee, but the
guardian angels. There was this one picture the the the Catholic church had the best paintings. They were like these two kids were on a on a on a on a on a a a bridge or a rope bridge or something.
It was lightning and they're over this thousand foot crevice between two mountains. How the hell they got there?
But it's dark and they're huddled like this. And there was a guardian angel behind them. And I said, "Sister, you know, Sister Mike Tyson, Sister Mary Agony, Sister HR Bob Hal." Sister, yeah.
Do we each have a guardian angel? This is true. Yes. Well, there's only one here. Which of these kids buys the farm? And she says, "Stop it."
Ah,
stop asking questions. I thought, "Oh my god, stop asking questions." Well, from that day on, I was committed to asking
questions. And and that actually cemented my incredility. It made me think
the saints, the the the the martyrs. I went to a place called St. Lawrence in Tampa. St. Lawrence. St. Lawrence of
Rome very quickly. Look it up, kids. He was burned on a grid iron. You know what his line was? Look it up. When they turn
me over, I'm done on this side. I'm 8 years old. And I say, "Excuse me. You're trying to get me to become a Catholic by telling me stories about people who were
killed by professing that which you want me to believe. This is not a motivation.
They were killed for this. You know, can I can I think this one over? What are the Protestants doing? They don't have martyrs. I mean, this is
Lionel, this might this might come as a surprise to you, but it's a what Carl Young would call a synchronicity. I went
to Our Lady of the Snows was my grammar school. My high school, St. Lawrence High School in Burbank, California. I went to Jesuit. The Jesuits.
Yes. The Jesuits. Yes. I had Christian brothers. Actually, that's who I had in in St. at St.
Lawrence. And I had nuns in my grammar school.
The the the nuns were the greatest of them all. We had these nuns who were they were like these Celisian types.
They were like from Sicily. They had a choice at a at a kid. You could either work to death in the sulfur mines or be a nun. And these tough broad Sister
Carmine these I don't know where they didn't even speak English. We had kids in our class who had an accent. I'm telling you, they didn't care. And they
walked around with black and they had remember the stuff they would stick the stuff up their sleeves. Yes. Had daggers, straight edges, first aid kits,
grenades, anything you needed. And they just were they nobody ever skipped a grade. Oh, you we had a kid I don't know
if I heard this. He failed because of handwriting. Handwriting they made. And did you by the way Jimmy did you have lines? Did they say line
up? It's like like a precision drill team height. You go like this. Cat off May procession march here.
Yes. You remember? Yes.
It's like the batan death march. You just walk. Where the hell are we going? Keep marching. Where? What are we doing?
Just keep doing this confession. You're seven years old.
What do I What are your sins? Sins.
Sins. I had to make up sins. Which is kind of sin. I'm lying to the priest about the sins cuz I don't have any sins. I'm only seven.
Seven. Seven years old. What? Do you renounce Satan? Beg pardon? Do I renounce Satan? Renounce Satan for what?
Remember the old days when you would go to confession and they had this this vault? Boom. And you say, "This is great." And it smelled funny. And they
had they would slide this door open this this wax. You could tell like George Carlin, I touched myself in an impure
manner. Anything you wanted. Then one day I walked in and I walked around. The guy says, "Hey, Mike. Huh? Oh, sorry,
father. Made a mistake. I was looking for the confession. This is it. Vatican 2 strikes again. You want me to I just want to be a better Catholic, Father."
It was the act quick. Can you can you do the act of contrition for memory? Oh my god. I'm uh I'm heartly sorry for having offended thee.
But that's as long as I could. That's it. I can't remember the rest.
But but now but only because of these I I firmly resolve my grace to sin no more to avoid the mere temptation of sin. Sin
which I'm not even sure what the hell I'm seven years old. I stole a cookie. I don't know what I'm supposed to say. I'm in sin.
I loved it though. Okay. It toughens you up.
Yeah. No, I I uh I'm actually glad I went to Catholic school. Uh absolutely. We need more of that today. I hate to say it.
Yeah, it was it was um you know, I got it. I we had we had one pedto priest. I got I managed to get away from him and
uh but some people didn't and we made fun of them. That's what we did.
Never had a pedo nun. Notice that. Never had a pedo none. Never. Nope. But anyway,
because they were and because they were asexual. They were like mollis. Anyway, Lidol, I really appreciate you.
We you you've been very generous with your time. This has been really entertaining. You're such an entertaining cat and you've got such a great channel. And I'm not kidding.
Everybody, I really love uh watching your stuff, the way you uh you do your saliloquies on the on the on the day news. It's fantastic. Everybody check
out uh Lionel Media on X and uh what is your at your Nation? Lionel Nation on
YouTube. Everybody should check that out. Lionel, thanks for making time for us, brother. Hope to talk to you again soon. Come see me on tour in Las Vegas,
Burbank, California, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, Spokane, and Tacoma,
Washington. Go to jimmydor.com for a link for tickets.

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From: roger schank
Sent Mon 6/1/2009 4:30:58 PM
Subject: Re: pb wedding
jackie crenshaw; real estate agent--corcoran group in pb
roger schank
http://www.rogerschank.com/
On Jun 1, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Jeffrey Epstein wrote:
fine out who they were please
On Mon, Jun I, 2009 at 11:44 AM, roger schank wrote:
apparently you were discussed
a woman said she overheard 2 15 yr olds discussing going to your house
and they said they were going because their dads had agreed that they could then
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From: Jeevacation <jeevacation®gmail.com>
To: roger schank
Subject: Re: pb wedding
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:35:51 +0000

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On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:20 PM, roger schank <[DELETE]> wrote:

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On Jun 1, 2009, at 1 :14 PM, Jeffrey Epstein wrote:

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On Mon, Jun I, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Robert D. Critton Jr. <[DELETE]> wrote:

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Robert D. Critton, Jr.
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From: Jeffrey Epstein [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:32 PM
To: Robert D. Critton Jr.
Subject: Fwd: pb wedding

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From: roger schank <[DELETE]>
Date: Mon, Jun I, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: pb wedding
To: Jeffrey Epstein <[email protected]>

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roger schank
http://www.rogerschank.com/

On Jun 1, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Jeffrey Epstein wrote:

fine out who they were please

On Mon, Jun I, 2009 at 11:44 AM, roger schank <[DELETE]> wrote:

apparently you were discussed

a woman said she overheard 2 15 yr olds discussing going to your house
and they said they were going because their dads had agreed that they could then sue you

roger schank
http://www.rogerschank.com/

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From: roger schank <[DELETE]>
To: Jeevacation <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: pb wedding
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:38:32 +0000

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On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Jeevacation wrote:

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Sent from my iphone

On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:20 PM, roger schank > wrote:

me? why call me? it is annie's story ([DELETE] for annie); also you could call jackie; she told annie she
was willing to testify

roger schank
http://www.rogerschank.com/

On Jun I, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Jeffrey Epstein wrote:

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On Mon, Jun I, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Robert D. Critton Jr. <[DELETE]> wrote:

Friend of yours??? I will call him, ###/—tell him who I am

Robert D. Critton, Jr.
Burman Critton Luther & Coleman, P.A.
515 N. Flagler Drive, Suite 400
West Palm Beach, FL 33401
561-842-2820
(fax) 561-515-3148

From: Jeffrey Epstein [mailtojeevacation@gmail com
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:32 PM
To: Robert D. Critton Jr.
Subject: Fwd: pb wedding

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Forwarded message
From: roger schank <[DELETE]>
Date: Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: pb wedding
To: Jeffrey Epstein <[email protected]>

jackie crenshaw; real estate agent--corcoran group in pb

roger schank
http://www.rogerschank.com/

On Jun 1, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Jeffrey Epstein wrote:

fine out who they were please

On Mon, Jun I, 2009 at 11:44 AM, roger schank <[DELETE]> wrote:

apparently you were discussed
a woman said she overheard 2 15 yr olds discussing going to your house
and they said they were going because their dads had agreed that they could then sue you

roger schank
http://www.rogerschank.com/

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Hello

I would like to forward this email to the District Attorney Audrey Strauss, Acting United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and to the Attorney General for victim human rights and the Investigation division of the office of the inspection general office .

I would like to open with a clear statement : I have been going through pain and loss of life and joy all those years where the corrupted system was used to take the life of innocent children and the disadvantaged . Nothing will be a proper compensation to all the suffering and emotional and mental abuse that me and My children were going all those years since 2002 up till now . I have been used sexually as well as my children ( in different times and episodes that not all is brought to light) by a group of powerful corrupted USA judges, social services and attorneys ( Jeff Berke Esq ,tell [DELETE] and Nick Donovan Esq ) .

My story has just begun and I am sure it will get an international audience .It's a shame that for 15 years I have been dragging myself and countries and cities in order to save my children from being sexually trafficked by the Epstien [Epstein]/[DELETE] group. The pain is very difficult to carry and for hearing the news lately I have decided to take the risk and come forward with my story . I guess I am being brave . I am fortunate to be educated and to be an attorney who set nights and days to carry this life story and the unjust ice of the judicial system in the united state .

I would like to report myself as a victim of a grand crime that was done against me [DELETE] [DELETE]) and my 3 children [DELETE] [DELETE] [DELETE] : sexual assaults , Brian [Brain] washed , physical and emotion harms , attempt to inflict badly [bodily] harms against me , medical fraud , identity thief [theft], court paper fraud , attempt to arrest unlawfully by providing flash documents, medical reports, in order to conceal thief identity . attempt to murder my brother in Israel and attempt to cause me badly [bodily] harm , stealing of heritage rights, stealing money and properties, fraud of marriages and Human trafficking of children and fraud in medical and pregnancy reports while commeting [committing] crime against me in order to gain personal financial gain and unjust ice enrichment by breaching the fiduciary duty and my human rights.

In December 2019 I saw Ghislaine Maxwell in my building ([DELETE]) speeding out after getting out of the elevator . I remember her face because she turned around and gave me and my Husband [DELETE] a strong look . It was published that she bought a new house with cash and a llc that was created . After reading in the news I saw on the Internet that the name : [DELETE] is connected to the heritage of Mr. Espstien [Epstein].1 believe from his father's side . It was strang [strange] all the coincidence around this . [DELETE] - what was an obstacle was the letter S and not C . ([DELETE])

Also in the 2015 case of Martha Bursios esq - that was a case of fiduciary stealing from a sister that was declared unfit by two brothers - this case was from 2015 at the DA OF QUEENS . and she got 5 years . She was released in 2019 and hopes to immediately continue stealing . I saw her in December following me to Chase Bank - I sat with a person named Sandra Baichoo/ Jose Severino : from Chase Bank 1025 Madison Av . I was referred to them by an employee of Safra Bank - sigi ( israeli ) on 5 av . I was looking to find my account .In the Bank they took my driving Id and I believe that they have changed the name [DELETE] with [DELETE] [DELETE]. I believe that this change was done illegally by Allan Lassarus - the attorney of Albert Nasser ( Israeli citizen ) and Jeff Bereke office and Nick Donovan. The attorney / Bruce Gottsman ([DELETE]) was introduce [introduced] to me by the notary who notarize the marriage certificate Gianluca Croce

ONLY NOW I can understand the way they have acted . ( They - Maxawell [Maxwell] ,Kardedien [Kardashian] family and martha Borisus,and the sex trafficking ring ) .)now after 15 years of suffering and filling all reports to save my daughters life and my son - who had paid in his health and was hospitalized few times during 2012 till now with broken nose - and uncounses [unconscious]- retaliation of his father [DELETE].The distress , the pain , the lost of life and all those years who will compensate me and my children ?

the corruption of the judges Goldstien [Goldstein] from the family court in NEW YORK CITY and the Nassau court family Judge Cipotolla - who forct [forced] me to leave the country in order to protect [DELETE] from sexual abuse and [DELETE] [DELETE] from cruelty abuse for years . I just wonder where the money for the briabcome [bribes] [come] from ? I personally saw Jeff Bereke going and talking with Cipoltolla - Nassau family court - to convince her to have a order against me in 2015 - jusrt [just] because I wanted to save [DELETE] and I was waiting for him in the street knowing that he is being abused brutally .( I had reports from the health insurance that I paid or him )

I have compliant [complaint] and gave the name of my x husband - [DELETE] long time ago to court and the police and the FBI .( since 2006) and indicated that this is sexual abuse and trafficing [trafficking] of me and my children. I gave the attorney general in New York city - stating that there is a ring of Pedophiles. Instead the Judge in Nassau - Cipotolla wanted to arrest me and take [DELETE] so this woman( Maxawell) [Maxwell] and her partners will be able to use them while concealed the thief identity against me and the activity of human trafficking .

I was looking for explanation how this is going so many years ? and I wrote to FOIA in 2014 to see if there is another social security number that is being used by others under my name . The answer was negative and I didn't get another social security number . Today after research and the aggregation of documents and fraud in my New York state Id and all fraud in city -social services and health insurance files in the governmental offices that done by others against me I have concluded that ,and now understand and believe that that somewhere in the History of the united state ( new York ) there is a report of a missing baby -I believe this baby is me . I believe that I was kidnapped /or missing ( taken by a family member to Israel ) . My memory in Israel is from age 4 .

I am the love child of two big Sicilan families and my mother is [DELETE]- I believe I was born before her marriage to [DELETE]. I dont have my birth certificate but I am sure that my DNA will match to the ones that the FBI and CIA has in the DN willing to prove it with forensic genetic test . My parents are Sicilian and I am in [DELETE] -- from mother side and [DELETE] from father side ( my father is [DELETE]-- from [DELETE]).

. I believe that the name that was given me at birth ([DELETE]).I believe that Maxwell Knew the connection - Israeli -Italian - Epstien [Epstein] and the money of my heritage /beneficiary of shares and took the steps to control my life and to defraud the Authorities using my Identity . (Therefore Maxwell stated : its not my money :. I understand that she enjoys a close relationship with Kardashian sisters who helped her to use my identity ( and there are rumors of using my eggs for conceiving . ( need to do DNA test) but I don't know if that's correct , need to check the las Vegas family court and all annulment filled [DELETE] and the jpo not to move step daughter from the state, when I asked why the judge wrote this on the order and why the annulment has the correction of the judge assistant on the decree " LCD " ,I got stupied [stupid] answer that -she add her letters on the annulment / and the children is a mistake in the order - I don't buy this explanation and I believe that there is trafficking of children in this file . One of

I believe that when he died she wanted to clean all me from all my rights and therefore created the condition of thief [theft] identity and change name .This was taken speed after Epstien [Epstein] had died. The mind is Maxwell who has personal knowledge of me. I never met her or any member of the kardashian and Jener sisters .( This point need to be checked in documents of the financial enterprise of this family , )

As you can learn from the documents - Every time they ( her group )wanted to use or traffic one of my children - they have created the" fake love condition "of marriage so they can move my children around with the help of corrupted police officer and corrupted attorney - Nick Donovan esq and Linda Donovan esq tel [DELETE] who I believe used my confidential information and personal relationship , all this years facilitated Epstien [Epstein] and Maxwell financial transaction on my behalf without my knowledge or consent and to have a bad report on my character to gain financial gain unlawfully in since 2008 and in 2015 court proceeding Nassau Surrogate court , and currently prior to Maxwell arrest .He helped them to have conceal my Identity in Social security and IRS . By doing so with the intention to keep his law office successful he took my funds and diverted them to the wrong account including the receiving of child support payments from me as the custodian parents ([DELETE] the case worker that open the compliance in tax offset unit is IRINA SVETNIKOVA [DELETE] and Alla Pirogovskaya ([DELETE]). I PAID 26,000 DOLLARS .On January 8 2020 after losing the appeal in first appellate division ([DELETE]). Since that payment all my financial and banking were in irregulatory and fraud in the transaction. Everytime that I didn't a transaction it was doublicated [duplicated] with a different account . I used to transfer money between my accounts because I had limited funds and my limit debit card was 30 0dollar and my credit is secure up to 1500 dollar . after marriage to [DELETE] and around the end of January - February - they have empty my accounts . I had no money to buy food.

In 2010 I have filed with the family court in New York city petition to protect my daughter [DELETE] (2010)from her father sexual harassment . There was the interview with the DA in new york city ([DELETE]) and she referred us to Nassau where the intake and interview was don [done] with an officer in Nassau without me present and it was a male . No one continue with the process and judge Goldstien [Goldstein] in Family court gave him Visitation- "two hours on Sunday - Upper East side )what kind of a judge wanted to incarcerate me the mother who protecting her little daughter and send the kids back to the sexual and Physical abuse with the evidence that this happened . since than i believe the sexual abuse of my children continue . My self was sexual harassment by Nasser who told me : " that I am not paid because I don't let him feel like a man " he stole from me the building [DELETE] (I bought it for " Nasser Group " under the name Hilla Capital from Jhonatan [Jonathan?] Schults [Schultz?] tell [DELETE]. which was the receiver of Bank of America and leona Hemsely [Helmsley] estate . I never got my fee or my rights from him

. Just in December 2019 my daughter came home crying from her father home but didn't say a word and I have a feeling that it was connected to the visit of Maxwell in my building at the same time .- I don't know who Maxawell [Maxwell] was meeting but I know that there is someone in my building . Also my mail was stolen from my apartment ( letter to court las vegas and letter to bank with name change and copy of my passport to Safra Bank . Constantly there is is stealing of my rent payments from the building tenant account /and registration of transfer of funds to the owner of my building on [DELETE]. ( attached letter from the attorney - I have asked to speak with the owner but they don't let me I wanted to check how my rights are registered .( maybe I am not a tenant Maybe some ownership is under my name and that's why they steal the money from the account )

Regarding the Identity thief [theft] I would like to share my thoughts For years I am complaining that someone using my identity . They have used my registration to [DELETE] department of private and commercial law ( matricolla number [DELETE]) The Documents clearly show - my grandfther [grandfather] name [DELETE] so closed to [DELETE]. Therefore the change of name was done from [DELETE] - to [DELETE] by fraud . The change of name after my marriage to [DELETE] (November 21,2019) was from [DELETE]. My x husband [DELETE] and his accomplice in Las Vegas have done fraud on my papers in las Vegas county Clark [Clerk] and change it from [DELETE] [DELETE]. And I have saw irregularity in my banks immediately after Maxwell visit in my building . Why they did it ? after sawing [seeing] the news I think I got it - She signed the name Jane Mechella on the last purchase of home with LLC adhok [ad hoc] and after visiting my building. Starting September 2019 ( when I met my x husband [DELETE] and till her arrest there was distribution of few Big Financial Transaction such as : Cory inc- cosmetics company purchase of Kylie jenner Kardashian control 6000,000 million,( got from the news ) Real estate - Corcoran Group - had my Broker license working on project among new development - trump tower on 57 and , vodka license -scott Diskin ( again kardashian ) agreements with Bar Refaeli and kkr ( kim and Robert -) and finally Epstien [Epstein] estate - [DELETE] ( I am keep looking and to myself very similar to [DELETE] as askenze [ashkenazi] jew origin in Germany can be spelled different in Hebrew its only one spelling ). I believe and base on my research and some input that I got from comments that my x husband blurte [blurted] that :that a person sign on my documents for the purpose of transfer rights especially in the virgin island court regarding the heritage and with the last distribution of Cory cosmetics 600 million take over control - and in vodka deals of diskin scott ( from long island ) and real estate deals under corcoran group .In all this both Maxwell and Nick Donovan attorney and Jeff Berke attorney and his son Berke Facilitating the fraud and the human trafficking of me and my children . There are few ways of human trafficking and I am a victim of Espstien [Epstein], [DELETE], Maxwell. I was told that the Kardasian [Kardashian] sisters ( kim and all the rest ) used my name and funds to promote their businesses. I don't have documents to back this claim and therefore I am leaving this to the law investigation and social services in LA . The account number in Bank of America is under my x husband name [DELETE].

Additionally there is fraud in IRS tax reports . In 2008 my x husband [DELETE] filled " joint tax return as married to [DELETE]. I believe he did the green card application with her)in his immigration file he filed IRS report At that time I was married to him . We got divorce in March 2009 -( all court documents and full transcript were filed with the appellate division first department [DELETE] (especial attention for the [DELETE] - who insiste [insisted] to leave me without child support if I don't bring my daughter to physically be sexual abu. [abused].And Strange at the same time Martha Bursiuos was appealing in the same court .asking for less of punishment - I saw here [her] in December - coming after me to Chase Bank on 44 st -and 5 av - I believe they have change [changed] the name [DELETE]. and as I have heard Maxawell [Maxwell] used the name Jane Mechella - .when she purchase the new home in December 2019 - ( the new Ilc ) I have never signed the affidavits for change name - As I have got the response from the court ( attached ) with that still someone in the clark [clerk] court did the change and fraud my signature and with that changed my name as a heir and beneficiary of the trust and also limited my children rights .

I have sent a letter to Safra Bank in Geneva and asked to see who moved the money to purchase the building [DELETE]. I have noticed that the affidavit with the letter from the ceo of the bank to send a copy of my passport disappeared . I believe that Sara [Safra] bank - legal department in Basel will be able to show what happened and how Maxwell did the fraud and who is the attorney that helped her to notarize the signature - is it the accountant Joram Rados from forest hill or Nick Donovan esq [DELETE] or Michael Rosenblaum [Rosenbaum?] [DELETE] who is located in Florida and was the first mentor of mine and peter delman esq tel: [DELETE] his past partner who mentor me as well and signed my immigration papers and Barry Silbergberg ([DELETE]) who was my immigration attorney in 2002-2009. Deborah kelly esq from Nassau was the fiduciary attorney of my separation agreement .

Additionally ,my companies : ([DELETE]), I was filling [filing] as a corporation . I was told by an accountant back in 2015 that there are different tax reports with my name . Including the mentioned [DELETE] ( was registered in florida) [DELETE] ( florida )2020 [DELETE], [DELETE],2006 - all need to be checked the financial reports since I believe the financial reports are different from what I was filling . This is a thief Identity [Identity theft] .Fraud in financial documents - IPO that I have done with Nick Donovan esq for H& S equities which was owned by Serge Hoyda from Great Neck . the properties are located in the lower east side of manhattan - with an offshore shell company in Cyprus - I believe Maxwell and another woman - Michal from Miami -(who is known to be the madam of tiger wood [Tiger Woods])did fraud with the intention to defraud my legal rights and monetary compensation .

I have been told that they are stealing the funds involved in this deal with the Kardashian family and that the sisters are involved in using my name ( I have been told that Khloe and Kendall had special interest in my marriages and change of name ) to mention . i have never met any of them personally or had contact with them,In this regards I have sent revocation to the attorney Gottman Bruce in order to eliminate damages while this is being investigated.

This group of individuals are including the business man Serge Hoyda and Yair Levi ( all Israeliis ) and Frank Calabresse [Calabrese] - I was working in each place 1 year or less at the years 2006-2009 . All were in a business relationship with my x husband [DELETE].

For years I was trying to get my son out of their hands . I have no doubt that my son who had to go through a liver transplant at the age of 25 was abused mentally physically and emotionally by this group . Rosario and Morgan the magistrate where [were] laughing in my face .one time Morgan told my x husband " that he is getting 21 and what will be with the money ..../" They had a plan to make him entitled to disabilities - I never understood - why a father would like the doctor to make him disabled - now I think that there was big sum of insurance money and also pension and disabilities rights in the" other file " .

I never knew why I am hitting walls when it so obvious that he is being extremely abuse [abused] . This Maxawell [Maxwell] woman wanted my son - and I am just wondering who was the one that was abusing him - my son filed reports and the police told him that he will be in Jail if he reports . My son never talks anymore about this and it is still going on . The person that sold my son was his father and the Averbuch and Maxawell [Maxwell]. My marriage to[DELETE]made my son's situation even worse ..

(On another note the name kim Kardasien [Kardashian] was mentioned by lorida julie [Loredana Jolie?] who was tiger wood [Wood's] mistress and I have wrote a book about in 2010 )as the one who is in competition with me over my name identity and children - I thought its a joke !! now after the exit of 600,000 million in the cosmetic company Cory inc and the fraud in my marriage and all the pregenancy surrogate I am not sure its a joke ) . she mentioned horrible things happening in the Island and including dead body of a girl that " had mask and was tied to a tree ." She siad [said] "that the one from London was very mean and also the one from Miami ." also that the man " in the mention was making her fucking black guys and he liked to wach [watch] it , she was young -high school student in ocean side long Island ) she also said that her friend Ashely Massarow (who died in 2019 - the wwe) got pregnant in high school .they both worked for Maxwell and Mechella from Miami Florida .

Moreover ,since I believe that in the social security there are two files . In 2014- 2015 I filed a complaint with the social security in main office i new york city - nothing was done to protect me . The opposite, they didn't believe me . I believe that in California (where I was living with my ex husband [DELETE] there is one file with the name [DELETE] and that woman pretanded to be me [DELETE]. In New York - the file is [DELETE] - and that's me . In the Irs [IRS] I am sure that the trust/ corporation connected to the social security like ([DELETE]).

I have filed numerous complaints with the FBI in 2010 and in 2014 and in 2015 . I have mailed the homeland security to check if there is another person with my name . Now I understand that there is another social security with a missing person and I dont know when the identification was made but it is wrong .

I would like to check the 2008 tax report to the IRS that my x [DELETE] filed as married to [DELETE] ( Maybe used also the name / ([DELETE]) she worked in Brooklyn and I met me at corcoran later socialized with me and I think it was just in order to use my identity -" all his wifes" [wives]) and the daughter ([DELETE]).

I believe that in Israel there is a person that has the power, money and connection to organize this big scam.The prime minister Netanyu [Netanyahu] is familiar with my case. He was having me and my Israeli father in his house for his boy's birthday celebration in 2001. Sara Netanyahu knows my x husband [DELETE] ( sometimes spelled [DELETE]) personally and they met in New York with me in 2007-2006 . . Bib [Bibi] Netanyahu and his wife Sara - know me personally . and I have been told that Sara Netanyahu was acting as my " girl friends " and I am sure there is a report in the prime minister office about my identity and using BIBI cousin as my attorney was a big mistake of my Israeli father who passed away in January 2009 from liver cancer . I have done the Israeli Army and I am sure that there is a file of me .

Currently the most acute situation is that my brother is being extorted and placed in the hospital when the COVID spread . I believe that the fraud action will continue in Israel were [where] the doctor's asking me to be a donor to my brother [DELETE] who is not my biological sibling and by doing the medical fraud actually will kill him with my blood.- this is the final stage of the scam .

It is important to understand that my brother will die if Maxwell and [DELETE]'s plan will succeed. If no one believes me then by forcing me to donate bone Marrow to my Brother (who is not my biological brother ) and forcing me to hide my origin and Identity my Brother will die because of a bad blood transplant . The doctors in Israel gave me a letter stating that I am 100 mach [match] as a sibling > ) They want to kill him for gaining financial rights . I have approached the Israeli Police and my PCP and the cancer center in Mount Sinai .

In summary :

1. I am asking to file a complaint against Maxwell and her accomplices in this crime against me and my family members. And would like to release my son from the holding of this group .I would like to get my son [DELETE] freedom from the brutal abuse and trafficking that was done against him by of his father ( who donor in the liver operation -which I claim is a cover up to the brotality [brutality] my son went at the time in his father house and till now ,and by others . [DELETE]/[DELETE]/Maxwell ring and to disconnect any transfer of his rights to anyone else including his human rights and liberty to be granted to him back a court order. return of all his rights that was violated all this time till and while I was married to the [DELETE] ( my 3 x husband ) Additionally I would like to get compensation for all the stealing of rights and monies from Epstien [Epstein] and Maxawell [Maxwell] actions .AND to stope [stop] all procedures in the virgin Island regarding the execution of the estate and transfer the money to a trust . I would like to reserve my rights /heritage /beneficary in the estate and to reverse any fraud on my legal rights as a victim of sexual trafficking by my husband and the sexual abuse of years of myself, my daugthers and my Son

2. I would like to restore my original identity and to know what happened with my heritage and me when I was a baby

3. I would like to know if there was a use of frozen eggs or and / Embrio and if there were children who were conceived with the use of my eggs/ ivf. without my knowledge or consent or any legal rights . I have fraud in my NYS health insurance and my policy has changed ID number three times since 2020. That's three different files . I had hackers on my computers and emails and while i was in Israel from June 15-July 8 , someone brook [broke] to [into] the place that I was in Isolation for 14 day ( bc [because] Covide [COVID] and I had to see my brother in the hospital ) and the [they] used this to do fraud in my account in Bank of America new york and IA . Account number and tax reports of the company [DELETE],tax was filed by my x [DELETE] in the court in Los Angeles [DELETE] with [DELETE] who used to continue with her relationship with him prior and after marriage . I believed she also used my identity in corporate papers and tax reports.

4. I believe that on the flight to Austria on January 10 202 [2020?] and on the flight from London to New York on March 16 2020 , there was a "woman " who used my identity to transfer rights in Austria .

5. I would like that all the procedures in the virgin Island - Epstien [Epstein] estate will be held under scrutiny of the US attorney general office in regards to my identity , proven DNA and Francis [forensic] evidence of the bone and medical records .

7. I would like to receive all marriage certificate and transfer of name and assets done by Gianluca Croc'e -esq [DELETE] who notarized our marriage certificate and mailed it to Italy Millano ( not sure in Milano or Roma ) , and the attorney Baruch Gottsman Esq who was referred to me by X husband [DELETE] for the annulment . and for the transaction involving my rights and children rights .including step daughter as mentioned in the Vegas court order .

6. The Doctor Professor shimoni tel Hashomer [DELETE] who is responsible in Israel for the fraud of finding the mach [match] of the Bone Marrow transplant between me and my brother which is basically attempt to murder - knowingly [knowing] that we are not biologic [biological] sibling [siblings] and inflicting on me badly [bodily] harm. My brother was hospitalized on March 17 , 2020. ( with my return from Austria ) He was not sick before .

7. I am reserving my rights of the US Constitution ( it's not in court setting now ) to protect against self incrimination in this correspondence and the Six [Sixth] amendment right to be presented [represented] by an attorney in any witness situation and while being asked to provide any additional information / questions by government Authorities .

I am willing to answer any questions and provide any documents that I will be asked for by the USA attorney office .I would like that My son [DELETE] be protect [protected] and moved to my house for me to take care of all his needs and My brother in Isreal [Israel] in [DELETE] to be protected from wrongfull [wrongful] death

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Now, let's address the relationship history in the specific context this script establishes, because the pattern becomes significantly more revealing when you place it against the pageant background, and the intelligence-adjacent family connections Candace has raised. Every man Erika was connected to before Charlie was either a public figure with status and visibility, or someone with direct access to powerful institutional networks, or both. Tyler Strange provided entertainment industry access.

Tyler Strange: An entertainment figure and music artist. He is often cited in discussions of her earlier social circles in Nashville and Los Angeles.

Josh Harrellson provided elite athlete social currency.

Josh Harrellson: A former NBA player (New York Knicks, Miami Heat) and University of Kentucky star. Erika and Harrellson were in a public relationship during his time in the NBA and were frequently seen together at professional sports events.

JT Massie provided more of the same at a higher level.

JT Massie: A sports agent and former athlete who moved in the same elite social circles as Harrellson.

Tyler Bowyer provided direct access to inaugural circles and major conservative political infrastructure.

Tyler Bowyer: The Chief Operating Officer of Turning Point Action. While they are close professional associates within the TPUSA leadership, there is no confirmed public record of a romantic relationship....

Evidence suggests that Erika Frantzve (Kirk) and Tyler Bowyer’s connection predates her employment at Turning Point USA, rooted in their shared involvement in the early Trump political movement.

Pre-TPUSA Political Overlap

While Erika did not officially apply to TPUSA until 2018, her involvement in the "MAGA" ecosystem began much earlier:

• Early Trump Support (2015-2016): Erika was an early public supporter of Donald Trump, appearing at one of his first rallies in 2015.
• The "Inaugural Circles": During the 2016 campaign and the subsequent 2017 inauguration, Erika was already moving in the high-level conservative circles where Tyler Bowyer was an established operator.
• The Arizona Connection: Bowyer served as the Chairman of the Republican Party of Maricopa County (Arizona) during the 2016 cycle. As a former Miss Arizona USA, Erika was already a public figure in the state's social and political scene, providing a geographical and professional bridge between the two long before they both worked under the TPUSA banner.

• 2018: Erika officially meets Charlie Kirk for a job interview at TPUSA, where Tyler Bowyer was already a senior executive (COO).

This historical overlap supports the statement that her access to "major conservative political infrastructure" was a feature of her network well before she formally joined the organization she now leads.

Cabot Phillips was already embedded inside TurningPoint USA itself.

The relationship between Erika Kirk (née Frantzve) and Cabot Phillips before their time at Turning Point USA (TPUSA) is rooted in their overlapping paths through the conservative media and political circles of the mid-2010s.

Shared "Campus" and Institutional Roots

Before either of them became major fixtures at TPUSA, both were active in the student-focused conservative movement that surged during the 2016 election cycle.

• Campus Reform & Media Roots: Cabot Phillips rose to prominence as the Editor-in-Chief of Campus Reform, an organization that, like TPUSA, focuses on conservative activism on college campuses. During this same period (roughly 2015–2017), Erika was building her profile as a former Miss Arizona USA and a public supporter of the Trump campaign, often appearing as a guest or speaker in similar media circles.
• The Arizona Political Scene: While Cabot was working in the D.C. political media orbit, Erika was a staple of the Arizona conservative social scene. Cabot frequently traveled for his campus reporting and speaking engagements, often appearing at the same regional conferences where Erika was establishing herself as a faith-based activist and political surrogate.

Erika has been involved in pageants from the very beginning. Her mother is definitely the person who pushed that.

[Candace] I actually do believe that Erika loves basketball. There's no question she plays basketball. But this idea that she didn't want it is just not true. It's so objectively not true. Erika, without question, and anybody who's being objective and honest and looking at her history, at the people that she dated, and the people that she wanted to be in close proximity to, can guarantee to you this girl wanted to be famous, like very badly, wanted to be famous one way or the other. And one of her exes was very clear. He said to me, I was warned by another person in the beauty pageant world that that girl will do anything to get to the top, and her mother will do anything to help her get to the top.

And each step in that progression moved Erika closer to the specific world that Charlie Kirk occupied and controlled. By the time Tyler Boyer introduced Erika and Charlie, after months, by Tyler's own account, of coaching Charlie on how to approach her, and positioning Erika and Charlie's mind as exactly the kind of person he should be with, the progression had arrived at its logical destination: the man with the platform, the organization, the institutional influence, and the community of millions of engaged supporters.

Charlie was simultaneously the most politically significant, and the most personally inexperienced of any of Erika's connections. By his own admission, Erika was his first for everything: first kiss, first real date, first romantic relationship of any kind. He was a 24-year-old national political figure who had built one of the most significant conservative organizations in America, but had never navigated the specific emotional vulnerabilities of romantic attachment. That combination, enormous public significance paired with complete personal inexperience, in exactly the domain where Erika had been operating strategically for years, is precisely the combination that creates the specific kind of exploitable vulnerability that the word "honeypot" describes.

The Trad-wife pivot, which happened with notable speed and completeness after the marriage, is something that a growing number of people are now re-examining with the benefit of everything that has come out since. Because the transformation of Erika's public persona from aspiring actress and social climber, to devoted traditional Christian wife who believes women should stay home, and center their lives around family, was so complete and so rapid, that it raises legitimate questions about its authenticity.

The interview clips that survive from before her relationship with Charlie show someone with explicit Hollywood ambitions, and a clear appetite for public recognition and personal platform. The Erika who appeared in music videos, who did couples shoots for magazines, who called relationships "transactional" at a women's conference, and talked about the wife being the neck that controls the head, that Erika, and the Trad-wife Erika, occupy a pretty significant distance from each other that the timeline of her relationship with Charlie does not comfortably explain. People can change. Growth is real. Genuine conviction can develop in ways that look dramatic from the outside, but feel completely authentic from the inside. Those possibilities must be acknowledged honestly. But in the specific context of everything else that has been documented: (1) the false timeline, (2) the pageant history that predates what she claims, (3) the Corcoran connection, the Crosby Street review[??], (4) the Lindsay Halligan overlap, (5) the silence on Epstein and Iran, (6) the Trad-wife persona, looks less like genuine transformation, and more like a specific costume adopted for a specific audience for a specific purpose.

The 8-day succession timeline remains one of the most specifically questioned elements of this entire situation, because 8 days is an extraordinarily compressed window for the most consequential organizational leadership decision in Turning Point USA's history. Charlie was assassinated on September 10th, 2025. Erika was installed as CEO by September 18th: 8 days. The justification offered was an audio recording played at Amfest 2025 in which Charlie allegedly states that he would want Erika to take over if anything happened to him. That recording has been questioned publicly and specifically by Candace Owens, who noted that while TPUSA claims to have video of Charlie making the same statement, they have not released it, offering instead only the audio, whose authenticity cannot be independently verified. Candace's observation was precise. If the video exists, and clearly shows Charlie making this statement, releasing it would settle the question instantly. The decision to hold the video, while playing the audio, is not a decision that innocent people with legitimate succession documentation would make.

And now place the 8-day installation against the specific context this script establishes: a woman whose relationship with the man she succeeded was constructed through a network of arranged access, strategic positioning, and documented false narratives about its organic origins. If the honeypot theory is accurate, if Erika's entry into Charlie's life was directed rather than accidental, then the smoothness of her transition into organizational control is not evidence of legitimate succession planning. It is evidence that the succession was always the objective, and the preceding years were the preparation.

The hot mic moment that surfaced shortly after Charlie's death, where Erika was recorded apparently celebrating merchandise sales, and describing Charlie's memorial as the event of the century, in a tone that struck multiple witnesses as completely inconsistent with genuine acute grief, remains one of the most specifically damaging pieces of documentation in this entire story. Less than 2 weeks after her husband was assassinated, the emotional register being captured in that recording is not the emotional register of someone in the acute phase of devastating personal loss. Candace Owens described it in terms that have been widely quoted, and widely resonated, as one of the coldest things she had ever encountered.

The specific combination of the subject matter, merchandise metrics, attendance numbers, organizational performance data, with the emotional register of the recording -- something closer to excited business review than raw grief -- is something that people are not letting go of, because it is so specifically and visibly inconsistent with the narrative of a woman whose heart was broken by the violent loss of the man she loved.

Charlie Kirk's final years were organized around two specific commitments that he pursued with documented passion and urgency. (1) Releasing the unredacted Epstein files, and (2) preventing military conflict with Iran. These are not minor policy positions or casual preferences. These are things Charlie described as urgent moral imperatives, things he was working on both publicly and behind the scenes, things he was willing to take personal and professional risk to advance.

The Epstein files commitment is documented across years of public statements, private communications that have been shared by people who knew him, and organizational priorities that insiders have described. He believed the American public deserved to know what was in those files. He believed the people named in those files deserve to face accountability. He believed the suppression of that information was itself an act of institutional corruption that his platform had a responsibility to fight. And his position on Iran is documented across six years of consistent, specific, increasingly urgent public statements, from 2019, when he wrote about the dangers of a potential ground war in Iran, through 2020, when he was warning that America's future was not in the Middle East, through April 2025, when he was describing the prospect of war as a catastrophic mistake, and a potential calamity. through June 2025, when he physically went to the White House to plead with the Trump administration not to launch the conflict, to when he ran a poll on X in which nearly 90% of his own followers said "No" to US involvement in Israel's war against Iran.

These were the things Charlie spent his final years fighting for. These were the commitments he maintained under pressure. These were the positions he held at personal and professional cost. And Erika will not touch either one of them. The Epstein files: silence. The Iran war: she posted in support of the military operation that Charlie called a catastrophic mistake.

The community Charlie built around these specific commitments is watching the person claiming to carry his legacy actively contradict those commitments in public, and the silence on the questions people are raising about why, is as loud as the silence on the issues themselves.

The complete picture that emerges from placing every documented thread in its proper relationship to every other documented thread is one that Erika has never been asked to address in any forum that requires specific, documented, verifiable answers. (1) The pageant history that predates what she claims. (2) The Lindsay Halligan overlap from that same pageant circuit from the same college, the same Trump connected world, (3) the Corcoran group's 100 plus appearances in the Epstein files, the Crosby Street Bar and its Epstein connection [??], (4) the documented succession of strategically positioned relationships, (5) the false 5-year celibacy claim, (6) the transactional relationship admission in her own words, (7) the head and neck confession, and the immediate panic that followed, (8) the 8-day succession timeline backed by an unverifiable audio recording, (9) the Hot Mic celebration of merchandise numbers two weeks after Charlie's death, and (10) the silence on the two issues Charlie died fighting for.

11.



-- Erika Kirk Launches Faith 'Make Heaven Crowded' Tour with Alleged Paedophile And Child Trafficker Pastor. TPUSA Faith embarks on a nationwide Christian tour as legal claims of abuse tied to a featured pastor intensify, by Chelsie Napiza, 22 January 2026.

-- Romanian Survivors File Lawsuits Against California Megachurch and Pastor Greg Laurie Alleging Decades of Sexual Abuse and Cover-Up, by McAllister Olivarius, 22 September, 2025

10. Finally, by 2004, Havsgaard’s abuse had become so notorious that an American missionary from another Calvary church in California, Steve Quarles, heard about it and complained to Schutte in Riverside, ultimately prompting Schutte, the pastor in charge of all missionary work at Harvest Riverside and Laurie’s trusted lieutenant, to authorize an inspection by Quarles and two other Calvary ministers.

11. Quarles and his team performed the inspection in October 2004. They were so alarmed that they requested that Schutte come see for himself.

12. Schutte travelled to Bucharest and met with the inspection team, who laid out conclusive evidence that Havsgaard was sexually abusing children and misappropriating money, both on a shocking scale. Quarles told Schutte, “Paul [Havsgaard] needs to be on that plane with you when you leave tomorrow. He doesn’t need to be another day in Romania. He needs to be gone. He is an embarrassment to every single missionary and Christian worker. Get him out of here and into counselling.”

13. But Havsgaard was an important fundraiser for Laurie’s church whose “good works” also brought credit to Laurie. As senior Harvest figures told Quarles, Havsgaard “is very important because he’s the face of the ministry. He’s the one who goes and talks to the churches and raises the money. And we can’t have him not be part of things.” Firing Havsgaard would have hurt donations and possibly unleash a scandal that would hurt Laurie’s reputation.

14. So, despite proof that Havsgaard was a devious and unrelenting pedophile, and despite knowing they had provided him a perfect laboratory of desperate and vulnerable children to exploit, Harvest Riverside, Laurie and Schutte did nothing. They did not fire, suspend, withdraw or discipline Havsgaard. They neither reported him to the authorities, as was their duty under California law, nor instituted any new policies or procedures at the Harvest Homes. They did nothing to protect the children there, who remained completely subject to Havsgaard’s domination and voracious sexual abuse. Nor did they do anything to offer support to Havsgaard’s victims.

15. Laurie instead engineered a “soft landing”: he let Havsgaard stay in charge, free to molest and rape, while Laurie slowly closed the money spigot, until the Romanian homes finally withered to nothing—four years later.

-- ALEXANDRU BADALUTA vs. HARVEST CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP, GREG LAURIE, RICHARD SCHUTTE, and PAUL HAVSGAARD, Case No.: 5:25-cv-03092, COMPLAINT

None of these threads exist in isolation. They connect across time, across institutions, across individuals, into a pattern that requires either an innocent explanation for each of its components simultaneously, or a framework that accounts for all of them at once. And the framework that accounts for all of them at once is the one that Candace Owens, Joe Rogan, multiple insiders, and a growing community of researchers have been building publicly for months.

The receipts are everywhere. The timeline is documented. The connections are real. And the questions that need answering are not going away; they are multiplying. Because every time a new piece of documentation surfaces, every photo, every archived review, every surfaced video, every leaked account, the picture gets clearer rather than more complicated. And that clarity is not moving in Erika's favor.  

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Responding to Trump’s TIME Post…
Candace Clips and Candace Owens
Apr 29, 2026

[Candace Owens] I do feel like Trump's just repeatedly humiliating himself over and over again, and he can continue to do that in front of the world. I will say real power never has to name itself. "I am MAGA. I built MAGA. I am loved 100% by the people. Just look at these polls." It's like come on old boy. Who are you fooling? You know, you weren't even worth replying to while I was on holiday in Italy........

And I will say that never when I went through that, and to people who are sick and going through things, never could I have imagined that my lowest moment would one day become President Trump's lowest moment.

Donald Trump named Candace Owens TIME's "Most VILE Person of The Year." Candace responds — and points out the irony of Trump using an image from her lowest moment to mark what may be his.



Transcript

[Candace Owens] Okay, so what did I miss? Well, apparently I won, and I like to win. I just want to be clear, you know, and I don't get to win often because despite my thinking I have a lot of accomplishments out here podcasting independently -- I had to rebuild my entire YouTube channel from scratch after being gloriously, publicly fired and hanged for suggesting that genocide is always wrong -- despite all of that, and taking this podcast to No. 1 globally with a very small team, I just don't win anything. So, you can imagine that when I found out that Donald Trump was publicly announcing me, naming me, Candace Owens, as Times person of the year, there was this little glimmer of hope, right?

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116461858227528789

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Candace Owens’ stock, which was never very high, has fallen a long way. Her attack on the First Lady of France is despicable. I believe, in this case, without verification, she is an extremely Low IQ individual!



Apr 24, 2026, 3:42 PM

Okay, I'm not going to lie. Here is what he sent out on Truth Social. He wrote,

[Donald Trump] Candace Owens's stock, which was never very high, has fallen a long way. Her attack on the first lady of France is despicable. I believe in this case, without verification, she is an extremely low IQ individual.

Look at that photo. Ouch. Yikes. I'm not looking too hot, right? And also, like why what was going on on that day between me and Trump, or even in the previous week, like actually to what do I owe this dishonor, and hasn't he already said this? Is he kind of repeating himself here? He called me low IQ. He's already asserted that I was uglier than Brijit. That actually between the two of us, it's not even close. Does he feel like his point was not delivered effectively the first four times that he made it? Yeah. This is actually the fourth tweet about me in the span of two weeks from the leader of the free world. What is going on?

But before we get to who demanded that the tweet be sent -- it wasn't Trump -- we should address the points that are made within it, because what actually was he trying to accomplish with it? What was the administration trying to accomplish with that tweet?

Okay. Well, the first was a little bit of politicking. To be sure, by now, you are plenty aware that Washington DC runs on blackmail and secrets, right? They send operators out to find your deepest, darkest, most humiliating secrets that you wouldn't want the public to know. And once they discover these secrets, you're kind of presented with really just two options. One, fall into line, deliver the talking points. And if you're in Congress, vote how we want you to vote. If you're in media, say what we want you to say, and we'll make sure the public never finds out. Or here's your other option. Don't stand against us, and we will reveal all. We will make your lives miserable. That's how it works. That's how it works in politics.

And it's incredible to me what people will do, what shame they will put themselves through, and the statements they will make that we know are abundantly untrue simply to avoid public embarrassment. And I guess in that regard, I got to give Trump a little credit here, because the photo he shared of me, to be clear with you guys, it is real. It is not AI. People were suspicious. "Is this a real photo?" I'm not going to sit here and lie to you guys. And you can imagine that was at least refreshing after four days of his top advisor, Laura Loomer, sharing AI photos, delusory stories about drunken hit and runs, and fairy tales about secret trusts to hide money from Mcrone, all in this manic fit to try to land a hit on my rather boring life.

You can imagine that there must have been some satisfaction when they stumbled upon something that is authentic, right? But you see, the only problem with people who are cartoonishly evil, is that they also tend to be equally as dumb. So you can imagine how deflated they are going to feel to learn that the photo that they stumbled upon, my deepest darkest secret, was actually at first shared by me, on my Twitter account. This was not found by some journalist.

So, back in 2019, I shared that because I'm actually proud of that photo. And so, I will briefly tell you the story as to how it came to be, because I was not that well-known in 2019. And so, you may have missed it. The story is from 2016, before I had any public profile whatsoever. I had moved into a brand new newly built luxury apartment, and one night I received a knock on the door from the building maintenance claiming that there was a systemwide HVAC leak. They needed to pull the carpet back in a spare bedroom, and it was completely soaked through in the closet. They ran a fan and they advised us not to go in that room for a couple of days while the fan was running. Okay.

It must have been a few days later that I woke up and my eyes were completely red, and they were pussing, and it was itchy, and I was like that's weird. I don't know what this is about. Within weeks, I then broke out, and that is what you were seeing. Head to toe in eczema, something that I had previously never had. Giant, I'm talking giant patches of eczema all over my skin. My hair fell out in clumps. And this is now over a couple of months. And I kid you not, I even got athletes foot, which is insane. I had two asthma attacks that landed me in the hospital. And I had no idea what was happening. I had no idea what was happening, were it not for somebody that was in my life who instantly recognized the picture of all of the symptoms, and told me that there had to have been a toxic mold presence for which I needed to have the environment tested immediately. And I genuinely think that that person could have potentially saved my life. I would have never figured out what was going on, because everything seemed so separate and sporadic.

And just so you know, Trump, I have way worse pictures than the one that you shared. And it was beyond just physical symptoms, beyond itching. My hair fell out.

Mentally, I was a completely changed person instantly. I was exhausted. I was sleeping up to a day. The only way that I can describe it to you all is I just suddenly was not myself anymore. And it was as though my brain could not think or process thoughts. Everything that I had to do, even things that I didn't have to do, was overwhelming. It was a task. If somebody texted me, I would cry, and I would become overwhelmed, because I couldn't think of how to respond back. Like I was exhausted at the idea of having to answer somebody back in a text message. It it just seemed like an impossible task.

So in a couple of months I felt like my looks and my brains, everything, is just gone, right? And I had not realized up until that moment how much of my personal confidence was actually tied to my looks. Like certain things have been easier for me for being -- and Trump, you're free to dispute this -- generally good-looking by most people's standards. And I didn't appreciate that I tied that so much to who I was. At that time of my life, I would just pop on a red lip -- I was doing the Taylor Swift thing for a little bit -- and run out of the door, without putting on any makeup.

I'm going to show you pictures leading up to this HVAC leak. This is a picture of me in August of 2016. There's another picture of me before this happened in August. Another picture of me in August of 2016 rocking the red lip. No makeup here. Just like doing some hiking with my cousins. Another picture of me where I wasn't needing to wear makeup at all. And another picture of me just traveling, feeling confident in myself.

And yeah, the picture that Trump shared was taken just 3 months later. I was sick. I was very, very sick, and immediately humbled. I did not want to see anyone. I'm not going to pretend that I was this profound person. I did not want to see anyone. I did not go out. I also didn't have the energy to see anyone. I only let my cousin Mia see me, snf you've heard me mention her on the show. She took care of me day in and day out, snd eventually a doctor told me I can keep prescribing you pills, but the only way that you're actually going to be able to beat this infection is you have to go on an unbelievably restricting diet. You cannot have any sugar, even fruit. It's a very strict candidiosis diet, and I said to omyself, this is just what my life is going to have to be. I cried a lot. I mean, I am not a big crier, and I can tell you you wouldn't have known it if you knew me during that time period. And also for the first time in what felt like a very long time -- because prior to that I had been living in New York City going out all the time -- I started praying again. I felt like since the first time since, you know, I was living with my grandparents, maybe in middle school, I hadn't made prayer a daily habit, but I did. And I I remember vividly lighting this candle in my bedroom at night, and getting on my knees and praying. And I will say, I know it's not acceptable, but I was bargaining with God. I remember specifically saying, "I don't even care about the looks. I just want my mind back. I just want to be able to think again. I just want to be able to write again. I want to be able to have energy again. I want to be Candace. I just I want to be Candace on the inside. And when it came down to it, that's all I wanted. Not to look like myself again, but to be healthy again.

And I came away from that experience realizing that health is everything. Your health is everything. Your looks mean nothing in the scheme of things. I was happy to accept that that was how I was going to look for the rest of my life.

Anyway, the story ends well. Actually, I moved out of that apartment, did that strict diet, eventually had to chop my hair, but I did it in a cute little bob. Here's a picture here. With a lot of time, I would say probably maybe like 6 months, my skin fully cleared up, which was not something that I was expecting. And what followed that was I think it was August of 2019, I started for the first time my political YouTube channel, having no idea how successful it would be. And when it became successful, I really enjoyed enjoyed the hindsight of that story. Like, this is probably me inserting this, but I felt like God was giving me a little bit of a test before I had life in the limelight. And I always think, what if I had instead prayed and said, "Oh, please God, give me my good looks back. Take my mind, but give me my good looks back." And for whatever it's worth, I entered the space of politics with a very real understanding of how fickle it all is. I felt completely that I was at God's mercy. I wanted to sort of keep my circle really small.

As you guys know, my cousin Mia still works with me. She is the person who actually helped me upload my first video onto YouTube. She filmed me, and she's still rolling with me today. She was the one I took with me to see EriKa because of vibes. And so I feel like I went into politics with the right attitude, and not impressed by a lot of the things that other people were impressed by. I knew the importance of family, and again, how quickly everything could be stripped away from you. All I wanted was my health, and I was just so grateful to be able to think again.

So to Trump, there you go. And to you directly, I guess it's important for you to know that you have no power over me and my life. I chose to share that picture. That's why you have it. That's why you could have somebody put that on an AI cover. I made a decision to share that with the public because it was the lowest moment of my life. And I do not want people digging through to find that, and try to embarrass me. I'm not embarrassed of it. I'm proud of who it made me into today.

People get sick, okay? In fact, there are people who email us daily about their chronic illnesses, and tell me how much this podcast helps them get through the day. People who are going through surgery, people who are going through cancer, and similarly wearing bandanas and have no hair, enjoy listening to this podcast. It gives them a laugh. And that's okay. Who cares what you look like? You have low moments, and you get through them.

And I will say that never when I went through that, and to people who are sick and going through things, never could I have imagined that my lowest moment would one day become President Trump's lowest moment.

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Candace Owens Belongs In Smithsonian With Historic Quote Dunking On Trump
by Dave Neal
Apr 30, 2026



Transcript

Hey folks, we have bombshell updates regarding Candace Owen 86-ing 47, metaphorically! Metaphorically, before you clip that out of context. That's right. Candace Owens is getting rid of Donald Trump all all through her YouTube channel. I mean the pen is mightier, right? How YouTube's the mightiest.

Candace Owens has eviscerated Trump with his own words. We call this a good old-fashioned parlay. Take someone else's energy and throw it right back at them. A comedian on stage would call this dunking on a heckler. So, if you aren't familiar with this story, you should be.

Trump posted this vile person of the year, and then he posted a photo of Candace Owens. Now, some people were like, "Oh my gosh, you post this AI photo of Candace Owens. That's super racist." No, this is a photo of Candace Owens, and how she looks is really none of our business. But in this photo, she addresses in our YouTube video, that she was going through a situation where she was dealing with mold in her apartment, and going through a whole ordeal that made her very sick. She had to get her haircut. Really, it was a very tough time in her life, and it's very interesting that Trump would use this photo. He said Candace Owen's stock, which was never very high, has fallen a long way.

[Donald Trump] Her attack on the first lady of France is despicable. I believe in this case, without verification, she's an extremely low IQ individual.

I'm going to share Candace's response. Now, listen, an enemy of my enemy is my friend. And I'm not enemies with Candace Owens by any means. We have different beliefs as far as like, I'm sure she believes in something different as far as pro-life versus pro-choice. I'm a progressive person. Sometimes people get disgusted by the idea I want to tax billionaires and do universal healthcare. We live in a system that's completely robbing us.

This afternoon, I'll talk more about that. If you can withstand my political ideology, Graham Platner, a virtual no-name, is running for office in Maine, and the two-time governor of Maine, Democrat, is now uh she just said she's taking herself out of the race. So, we are seeing an absolute paradigm shift in our country where people like Graham Platner, an oyster fisherman who had no name identity, is now the top choice for for Senate in in the state of Maine. So, I say all of that because to think that Candace Owens is a no-name, Trump is vastly, vastly underestimating her, and underestimating the algorithm which lets people's voices rise to the top. No longer do we live in a world where your billionaire dad can buy you, you know, bone spurs relief to get you to dodge the war in Vietnam. If Trump came up in today's world, I mean, maybe, listen, maybe he would be successful. Who the hell knows? but he started on third base and thought he hit a triple. Candace Owens started on home plate. She doesn't come from a wealthy background. Say what you want about her, but she is where she is today because of the words that come out of her mouth. Here's Candace Owens absolutely embodying, dare I say metaphorically, 86-ing President Trump, and she had no hair, who enjoy listening to this podcast.

[Candace Owens] It gives them a laugh, and that's okay. Like, who cares what you look like? Okay. You have low moments. You get through them. And I will say that never, when I went through that, and to people who are sick and going through things, never could I have imagined that my lowest moment would one day become President Trump's lowest moment.

If that doesn't give you goosebumps, I just want to let it marinate for a second. How powerful are those words? A YouTube journalist is saying how wild that my lowest moment is now Donald Trump's. He has not only stooped to the
level of responding to YouTubers, but he thought he was dunking on Candace, when he was really dunking on himself.

Now the question as to why Trump posted this in the first place, Candace, Tucker, Carlton, Megan Kelly, Alex Jones, Marjorie Taylor Green, they've come out against Donald Trump. They're ining the rest of us with Trump derangement syndrome. Everything he does is wrong and corrupt. It's not our fault that so much of what he does is wrong and corrupt. He does shortcuts. He's kind of lazy in that way.

Oh, which of the January 6 people were violent? I don't know. Pardon them all. Like, that's his idea. He waves the magic wand. Which of these boats have cocaine? don't know. Blow up all of them. Even though they shouldn't blow up boats, even if they are stocked to the brim with cocaine. Why don't you get your Coast Guard to go take a couple photos seizing all these bricks of coke? You can give them to your son Don. He can give them to his buddy. You know what I mean? They can have a blast in the White House. We'll have an all-white party, the white cocaine house.

Whatever. I don't know. I don't care how much cocaine they want to sniff. If they if it's if it's to keep them up at night while they work on a universal healthcare plan, you know, do as many rails of coke off of Melania's ass. I don't give two shits how you get it done. um the the times where we live in this world where we uh you know we're above the you know we we treat our political leaders to a higher level and we respect them. Those times are done right now. It's a dog fight and Trump's trying to enter a dog fight but he doesn't have the uh the backing. He's hasn't released the Epstein files. He's taking us into a war which is skyrocketing oil prices. Do you guys think this shit's made up? Now oil prices have dipped a little bit today, but they're still over $100 a barrel.
They were up to $114 a barrel. This is insanity,
folks. This means uh the cost of gas and diesel is even higher, right? The cost of gas for all of your Amazon products and the salmon you eat at dinner and
everything in between is leading to the greatest inflation we've seen in a long time. Now, was there inflation under Biden because of the pandemic?
Absolutely. A lot of money was printed.
A lot of money went to corporate bailouts and all of that. Absolutely.
But we live in a time now where people like myself who want I'm a Bernie bro, right? I want to tax the ultra wealthy.
I want to make sure that money comes back into the middle class. We live in a time now where here in Tennessee where I live and where Candace lives, by the way. Happy birthday. Candace's birthday
was yesterday. Mine's tomorrow. We both went to the University of Rhode Island.
Why aren't we friends? Now, I could sit across from Candace Owens and I could agree with her on some things and
disagree with her on others. And if she was willing to give my points of view respect as I try to give others, I think
I could I think I could be friends with I mean, look, I'm a stand-up comedian. Some of my friends have, you know,
stories where they've done horrendous things and they've learned and grown from them. I live in a world where I believe we're on this earth because our spirits chose to put us in these meat
suits and go through the different trials and tribulations that we go through. And I do believe we can be better versions of ourselves tomorrow than we were today or yesterday. That's
how I believe that. That's the world I live in. You can hit the subscribe button if if you want to exist in that reality. But for Candace Owens to come
back and say, "You know what? I didn't want to give this an ounce of my thoughts while I was on vacation. You are worthless to me." For her to respond
to multiple instigations by the president, game on. And uh and she just
unbel this is 1.4 million views on YouTube is a this is Mr. Beast level views. she's getting and Trump thinks she's a nobody.

I do feel like to Trump he's just repeatedly humiliating
himself over and over again, and he can continue to do that in front of the world. I will say real power never has to name itself. "I am MAGA. I built MAGA. I am loved 100% by the people. Just look at these polls." It's like, come on old boy. Who are you fooling? You know, you weren't even worth replying to.

My parents until I could make time.
Who's he fooling? People born between 1945 and 1964. I don't I don't have a problem with all boomers. Just the ones born from 45 to I'm kidding. We have so
many. By the way, it's true. There are boomers get a bad rap. There are so many great boomers that fought the Vietnam War for decades. They've been
protesting. And God bless. I truly mean this. I'm not trying to pander. God bless you guys. It's the Gen Xers that are the real problem. I'm kidding. for it just because the Gen Xers have lower
low back tattoos, which I think Candace does as well. You know, whatever. I'm not judging you on the [ __ ] stamp.
You weren't even worth interrupting my holiday in Italy to address.
So, there it is. I mean, you can go watch the thing. But for her to for her to respond to the president and go, "Bitch, you're not even worth my time."
I think is amazing. I think it's poetic.
I truly do. I truly think if we're gonna properly digest what's happening in our country that conversations like this
deserve I know this is going to sound crazy deserve a place in the Smithsonian. They truly do because as
our president posts this and for her to say you're going to take my lowest moment and now it's yours too. Wow. I'm
I'm sorry. It's it's it's calling out this emperor for not having the power he claims to have. And that's the title shift that we live in. So, of course,
9 minutesCandace Owens was responding to um uh Charlie, not Charlie Kirk, uh was Erica Kirk there, uh because Erica Kirk was uh
you know, posted this very bizarre video where she was saying they're doing they're doing white face. Candace Owens is you know, whatever. And Candace's
response was actually interesting. Trump is signaling that he wants France. Oh,
I'm sorry. This is a different clip. So the Erica So the Erica Kirk stuff is interesting because Candace says, "When Dave Chappelle did a skit mocking me
during Black Lives Matter, I responded that I was flattered that he even knew my name. When South Park did an episode mocking Charlie Kirk, he played it on repeat on his show. I mean, imagine getting mocked by South Park. Listen,
imitation is the highest form of flattery. In a lot of these cases,
they're mocking them because they don't like their views and like that's what mockery is, right? But you kind of got to take it on the chin. uh you know you
do like that's you know when I if and when I ever get to a point in my career where like people want to make fun of
davisms and things I do and say and how I mess words up it's like well that's the that's the strength of the internet interneting and as much as it would piss
me off as long as you don't come after my family and you know keep it above the belt it's like all right well that's a product of me putting myself out there
and what I do actually to maintain my boundaries is I try not to dive into the comment sections in controversial videos
because I I think very I think very deeply about my points of views on things and then when I come to that opinion that I have while I still can be
swayed I don't need to hear a thousand people tell me I suck you know and I'm not afraid to make a video about Candace
Owens and say I stand by my ideas that I think women should have a right to choose up to a reasonable um time period
if they want to um terminate a pregnancy especially if there's health concerns and things like that I think it's something that we should trust our doctors to do, you know, in in the
privacy. I think that's the world I would live in and I could argue that with Candace all the time. We we could,
you know, have these semantic arguments about, you know, when is the conception and blah blah, you know, yeah, sure,
whatever, whatever. We can have those conversations. But the world we live in right now that has divided us on those culture war conversations, it's like we
live with a greater threat. This is a greater threat that we're seeing right now. Not just because of the wars we're getting into, but because we have
Trump's side luckily losing big time because they've lost all of the support of independents, all of the support of Hispanics. I mean, landslide levels of
support, uh, because nobody thought that they could do what they're doing right now. So, because of all of that, we see people like Candace and myself going,
"Okay, well, we have finer things we disagree on, but the bigger picture right now of free speech is like is this
huge umbrella that affects so much." So there are there's tweets and again I don't know how true this is. Someone said we're moments away from a new constitutional amendment that will strip
free speech away and they will say it's because the first amendment didn't account for social media. Now will will they have the votes to try to
get something like that going? Um I don't think so. But Candace responds, I agree with this. Trump is signaling he wants France to be able to bankrupt
podcasters. He hopes Breijit wins tons of money. Melania wants Jimmy Kimmel fired for a lame joke. Erica is responding to Druski like he did anything other than mirror her own
actions and words. It's speech they are coming for. Now I disagree with Candace over the f the first lady situation.
Candace is being sued for defamation.
She has to defend herself from the accusations that she like willfully and maliciously was defaming the French
president's wife. That's that's the world we live in where Candace is going to have to respond to that in court and it's going to go through the trial and I'll cover it. uh defamation is a high
bar to achieve, but it's like she she may have crossed the line. She may not have, but that's why that's going to trial. The Jimmy Kimmel stuff is a
completely different story. And folks can disagree with me or agree with me all they want. All we've seen is the docu series from Candace Owens claiming that Breit Mcronone was born a man,
right? A boy, a baby, whatever. That's that's that's Candace's claim that she stuck to and now she's being sued for it. We'll have
to see how that plays out. The Jimmy Kimmel stuff is ridiculous because they want to fire Jimmy Kimmel for words. He
said they want to use the FCC to get um all, you know, to investigate the different Disney channels. They did this to Jimmy Kimmel last year. They've done
it to other people. They're trying to silence free speech. They're trying to sue and Disney, ABC, all uh as far up the chain they can go. And
Trump's trying to use any powers he has to make that happen. The only people that are standing up to Trump are people that aren't in elected positions. People that can't be fired like Jerome Powell.
Now, he was elected right or nominated.
I don't know the difference, but Jerome Powell is like he's trying to do what's right for the country, but at the same time, he doesn't have to deal with what
like MAGA coming after him just like judges. Even though jud Trump has appointed certain judges, they've gone against him because they realize he's
trying to like pursue this unfettered power. So, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. We can talk about the Bjim Mcronone trial. Ah, that's going to be different than Jimmy Kimmel. It's not
all the same. But to say that the administration isn't coming after free speech. Why the hell is Trump wasting his time coming after a podcaster like Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson?
Meanwhile, and again, this is a fact shared by Tucker Carlson's network. TCN sees historic growth as audiences flock to independent coverage of the Iran War.
There it is. Tucker Carlson Network,
56.8 million views per episode across socials. Uh, previously they only got five million on Fox and again they were
probably the largest show on Fox. Now of course these 56 million views that's probably people like you know cut up views, clips and things like that. But
it goes to show don't trust what Trump is saying. The power is with the people.
The power is with these voices whether you agree with them or not. We need to be here to fight for the voices to have those opinions. We need to be able to
fight for the ability to have these debates on these public spaces. Uh we'll be back this afternoon. We have insane
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Part 1 of 2

Per Mikey McCoy's (Alleged) Request, a Closer Look at Andrew Kolvet - Ep 108
Baron Coleman
May 3, 2026

We begin our dive into Andrew Kolvet, the absurdly below-average tactician and strategist behind TPUSA's PR efforts.



Chapter 1: Intro
Welcome in. Welcome in. Welcome in,
guys. I appreciate you joining me here on a beautiful I don't know where how it is where you are, but here it is.
Gorgeous uh spring Sunday afternoon. It is um an absolutely wonderful day to I I'm almost out of breath from dancing to
the opening when you guys when you guys get here. So, I apologize. Uh we got a big show lined up for you. We had a lot of fun Thursday. Uh and then I take
Friday off at a family obligation. It was amazing. by the way. Um I had to go do a um it's it's hard with kids growing
up. I had to go do a college orientation tour. Um and it was uh it was a lot of fun, but it's it's hard. You know, you
kids are fleeing the nest. So uh it's an emotional day. It was emotional. Uh number two out the door. Well, almost
out the door. And u six more to go. Six more to go. Uh we got a ton to do today. I mean, today is going to be dense.
Today is one of those days if you need reading glasses, you're going to do some screen caps. We're going to have to you might have to watch a couple of segments
more than once. I hate to just tell you that up front. Um it's it's going to be one of those days. It's going to be one of those days. I have heard a lot of people,
this is probably the number one comment I've gotten since Thursday. Is Candace at all worried that she is putting Mikey
McCoy in jeopardy by naming him as a person who reached out to her? And my answer is an obvious no. It's a it's a
resounding no. If anything, she saved his life. If anything, she saved his life. It's there's something about hiding in public. And I think what she's
done is she's allowed Mikey McCoy the opportunity to hide in public. Imagine if something now happened to Mikey McCoy.
Well, before we said all that, before Candace came forward with that, before um anyone had had the opportunity to know that fact, if something had
happened to Mikey McCoy, if the brakes failed in his car, if anything tragic happened, uh he got depressed and and departed from this mortal realm, it
would have been hard at that point to come in and say, "Oh, let me tell you what he said." And it, you know, it looks it looks weird or opportunist opportunistic at that point. But by
saying it ahead of time, you get right out in front of it. I also congratulations to Valhalla VFT. He has
now 500,000 plus subscribers and I watched his 500,000 subscriber celebration show. A ton of fun Friday. I
had a ton of fun with that. Also, Ian Carol is back. He had a great great podcast on the ballroom. Um time permitting today. We're going to do a
little bit of the ballroom. I intended to do a whole show on it tonight, but I switched gears. Uh going to take it a little different direction. Um, you know, in honor of Mikey McCoy, who said
you should look into Andrew McCo uh uh Andrew Kovette a little more. Well, we will. We will. We'll do a We'll begin our descent into the disgusting, murky life of one Andrew Kovette. Sheep dip.
Well, well, again, I don't want to spoil the surprise. We'll get there. We'll get there about the opening. I'm going to do the opening in the middle of the show,
and I hope it makes sense when I get there. But if I started at the beginning, I don't think people understand why I did that opening and then do a whole segment on Andrew Kovvette and then get to the bal room.
So today's show will be structured a little differently. I hope you'll permit that. It'll be great. But we've got a lot to cover. So buckle your safety
harness, sit down. You'll only need the edge of your seat today, but you will need your peepers. You will need this uh important 6 to 12 inches here, depending
on how big your head is. How big is your head? Yeah, 10 12 inches maybe. um you you're going to need it because there's
a lot we're going to talk about and and we're going to dive pretty deep on some of this stuff. So, I hope you permit me that it's Sunday. It's a little cap and gown. We've had a lot of fun the last
couple of days. Had to wear a lawyering gear. Had to play a a country judge and and lawyer. But today's going to be a little more serious. We're going to do a
little cap and gown. We're going to begin a deep dive on a a character that I'm I'm kind of finding is pretty disgusting if you don't if you don't mind me saying so.
So, let's um let's jump right in it. I have to set it up this way.
Chapter 2: Coordinated Ballroom Psy-Op of Tweets
Do you remember immediately after the ballroom? I don't even want to call it a shooting. I don't know what it was. Some sort of assault on the ballroom where a guy goes running, many shots are fired,
but in the end of the day, no one seems to have gotten shot. Maybe a Secret Service agent took a round to a vest.
the suspect, even though they looks like they sired shot five, six, eight shots at him. Somehow Spiderman or matrixed his way out of it and didn't get hit,
and he ends up face down on the ground in some sort of a looks like those those blankets they put on you after you run a marathon or a 5K or something, you
overheat or a 10K or whatever, those little like silvery blankets. And he's face down and there's no blood anywhere.
He's not hit. He did not get injured in a shootout, an actual shootout.
So you saw that and then immediately you saw the rightwing or con the mainstream
right-wing mainstream MAGA. You saw them go into overdrive with one of the weirdest scops I've ever seen in the
history of social media because nobody after that thought of a ballroom. Not a single person who watched what happened
that night thought we need a ballroom except these people. Except these people, Andrew Kulovit, libs of Tik Tok, Jack Basobic, End Wokeness, Wall, uh,
Wall Street Mav, Megan McCain, on and on. Brian Hollyan, Randy Fine, they all thought simultaneously within of each other, "Wow, it'd be great if we had a ballroom at the White House."
Nobody else on the planet was thinking about it. I guarantee you when you saw that event take place, when you first heard the news of it, I was at dinner with my sister and my cousin.
We had some kids at the table with us.
We come out of dinner. I see the news of what happened at the the White House correspondence dinner. It never crossed my mind and I stay pretty plugged in. It
never crossed my mind. Not for half a second. You know what? The White House needs a ballroom. This is getting ridiculous. Never crossed my mind. I
guarantee you how many people we have almost 11,000 people on right now and climbing pretty quickly. None of you thought that either. Not a single one of
you thought you we need a ballroom. Not one of you made that connection. But all these people simultaneously did. All
these MAGA influencers, all these pro- Iran war influ, they all hold the
exact same political position on nearly every single issue. They're pro Erica Kirk. They're pro Iran war. They're pro-
greatest ally. And they all simultaneously thought, "We need a new ballroom. The White House needs a ballroom." It's weird. It's It's not natural. It is 100%
a manufactured scop. So, I spent the weekend thinking about this because it really bothered me. That that compilation really bothered me. That is
the kind of stuff that really gets me going. That's why I like being on this side of the political aisle. Not the left, not the right, but this sort of
anti-establishment part of the political aisle. That's where I find myself on almost every issue. What is the establishment doing? I want to do the opposite. Oh, the establishment wants to go to war. That must be a bad idea. Oh,
the establishment wants to raise taxes.
That's probably a bad idea. Oh, the establishment wants to cut this tax.
That's probably a bad idea. It doesn't matter what the establishment's doing.
It's probably a bad idea. So, I like I like where I find myself. These guys are all establishment. These guys all thought simultaneously we needed a ballroom. So, it has really bothered me.
I've spent the whole weekend now thinking about what does this mean? And then I had to start thinking about it in
the context of Candace Owens saying Mikey McCoy reached out to her through a third party and said, "You need to take a closer look at Andrew Kovette." And I
thought, you know, I think Andrew Kovette was on that ballroom list. I think he was one of the tweets. And turns out he was.
So I pulled up the tweet just to verify it for myself. I remembered seeing him on the long list of people who had tweeted that night. But I wanted to see
precisely what time was that tweet. What time was that tweet? Was he early to the party or was he late? Oh, he was early.
Check this out.
This was the night of the big kurfuffle there in Washington DC. This is 9:30 p.m. my time. That's 10:30 p.m. Eastern
time. He did not get out of the ballroom until .
Within of getting out of the ballroom, within of learning what had happened, he's already on social media pimping this ballroom.
So, so in light of that, I think, okay,
we we've got a problem on our hands here. We have got to get to the bottom of this.
And that's when Candace dropped That's when Candace dropped the big story. That's when she dropped the big story.
If you missed it, I'll play a brief clip of it here. If you didn't miss it, it's worth seeing again because it's awesome.
It is awesome. Here is how that sounded on her show late last week. And yes, I'm moving kind of quickly. That's what I'm saying. You may need screen grabs or go rewatch parts of this. I have so much
Chapter 3: Mikey McCoy Allegedly Tells Candace to Look Closely into Andrew Kolvet
information to share tonight. If I go too slowly, we'll never get to me. It doesn't fly with me. Like I said,
release the entire chat. I You have my full permission and it m it must be met with the sentencing. You guys agree? You
9 minutesagree. I must sentence him to more truth. Make an announcement. I must sentence Andrew and Erica to more truth.
That is always always the sentencing in this court. Now, what what would be appropriate?
What would be the appropriate level of truth to sentence you to? I got it.
Okay. Now, since what you are attempting to falsely insinuate is that I went into that conversation with Erica on December 15th already convinced of her guilt,
which is patently untrue. I am now going to prove to audiences just how untrue that insinuation is. Okay? With the
private revelation that I made to Erica Kirk, information that I gave her, I would not have given to her had I immediately suspected her of her guilt.
I would have given her no information regarding this.
And it was a private revelation made about you, Andrew Kovette. I don't know if they told you this. This is a really bad way to find out. But since you tried to surprise me yesterday, bam, surprise,
urprise, shouty, as they say.
You see, Angie, what I told Erica Kirk was that part of the reason why I suspected Turning Point USA and why I
thought she should be looking into other people is because someone at Turning Point USA got a message out to me. And
that message was that I need to look further into Andrew Kovat.
Wow. Turning Point USA people telling me to look further into Andrew Kov. Was it Aubrey as he tries to insinuate?
No. It was Mikey McCoy.
Mikey McCoy got a message out to me uh via a third party person that I should look more into Andrew Kovette. Why would he do that? Andrew,
why would Mikey McCoy say that I should look more into? When I did look into things got very shady and that's when I started going, who the hell is Andrew Kovette? Actually, he's obviously not a
11 minutesvery good PR agent. Everybody can see that. He's a bit of a blubbering idiot. Who is Andrew Kovat? What are his ties?
What are his family ties here? And the more I looked, I did start to see more things. So, as you pretend like we're
all just conspiracy theorists and nobody had any good information, as you fire a bunch of employees, like I said, you
still cannot produce the information that you are claiming that Aubrey L gave to me that I share on this platform.
All right,
we've got enough. Now, we know what Mikey McCoy said. We know why she shared it. And I want to put a limit on it because I'm seeing a lot of people trying to overstate what she said in
order to attack her. A lot of the Candace detractors have spent all weekend saying, "Oh, oh, Candace is claim claiming that her source the
entire time has been Mikey McCoy. Has been Mikey McCoy." Well, no,
friends. That's not what she said. She said Mikey McCoy reached out a single time through an intermediary and said
look into Andrew Pvette. That is not the same as Candace said her source the
entire time has been Mikey McCoy. Those are different verbs. Those are different those are patently different concepts.
So what do we do with this? What how do we how do we approach this? How do we How do we live with the fact that we now have a piece of information? Oh, and I
dare you, TPSA, to say this conversation didn't take place. I dare you. I dare you to say Candace never said that.
I dare you. Just like everything else you guys refuse to denounce. You guys may send a text message to some two-bit podcaster who nobody listens to, who has
small audiences, and you may send it to some third rate home improvement blogger to try to get your story. I understand your tactics. They're not new to me. I
Chapter 4: The Life and (Employment) Times of Andrew Kolvet
get it. They're lowbudget. They're terrible. You're a bad PR agency. TP USA, you get bad PR strategy and tactical advice. You guys don't do this well. You're way out of your league.
You need Charlie back. But unfortunately, he's not available.
I dare you guys. You guys will never come out and denounce the things that are not true because you're scared to death of what's going to come out if you do. I I get that. I get that. I 100%
understand why you won't do it, Andrew. I understand why you guys won't do it.
But I dare you to come out and say, "I never said that. That's nonsense." No, no, no. She did. She told Erica that. Guaranteed.
That's why you won't come out and deny it. That's why you won't come out and nevertheless. Nevertheless, what do we do with that information? So Mikey says,
"Look into Andrew Kovette." Well, let's let's start that process. Let's start that process. Let's look into who is
this guy? How did he end up in Charlie's life? Well, here is his LinkedIn profile. The founder and CEO of ATK
company. I'm guessing T is his middle name, ATK.
So, I got a little bit here of his education. University of Washington.
He was a a account producer at account executive at Go West Creative Group for a few years. Not sure what they did.
Don't care. Development producer for just a few months in 2012 at Signit Media Group. And then there's a blank.
You'll notice here there's a blank. I maybe I could try to make this larger for you so you guys can see the blank cuz I talked to somebody who sat through something with Andrew during this blank.
believe it or not. I'll tell you more about it in a minute. But in October 12,
according to LinkedIn, he's no longer working with Signet,
and he doesn't go to work for Light Workers Media, that's a weird company,
Mark Bernett company, uh, until May of 2014. So, there's this like 19 or 20 month gap in his resume. A lot of people that there's a gap like that when you go
to prison. I'm not suggesting Andrew went to prison,
but I am suggesting that this gap is pretty telling to me, frankly, pretty telling to me about where he may have
been during this gap because he he starts he's in kind of small budget, you know, uh, screenwriting mode. He's doing
this kind of stuff. Then he leaves and he shows up with Mark Bernett. We're going to talk about Mark Bernett today.
More than meets the eye when it comes to Mark Bernett. And he goes from Mark Bernett, he's only there a little over a year. Then he's at the Keros company for
four years. He's there with Johnny Moore. We'll we'll hint at Johnny Moore.
We'll dig into him more later. And then while he's at Keros with Johnny Moore,
he actually opens ATK Media and he's been there ever since. Notice TPUSA is not on this list.
If I did the job I do, if I did Andrew's job for TPUSA, I wouldn't put it on this list either.
There's nobody who could look at what's happened in particular in the last seven months and say, "Boy, that's great PR.
Who's the genius running that? I'd probably hide from that too if I was Andrew Kovette." But nevertheless, we have this gap and when he shows back up
after this gap, he goes to work for Mark Bernett at Mark Bernett Company. So,
let's let's just I'm not even going to do away with this. I'm gonna stop sharing it, but I'm gonna keep it up because we're going to come back to this in a minute.
while he's working while he's working for Cro's company.
While he's working for Cro's company,
he's listed as a media contact on a campaign. This is waging peace on
the internet. The Jerusalem prayer team has 20 million or two, yeah, 20 million Facebook fans. October 5, 2017. That's it right here. October 5, 2017.
And if you scroll all the way down, it says contact information. Andrew Kovette. Well, that's interesting.
What is the Jerusalem prayer team? Well,
we figure out it is a worldwide social media initiative created by the Friends of Zion
in Jerusalem. So, all the way back in 2017, we've got Andrew Kovette. Now,
this is 9 years ago, 8 and a half years before Charlie dies.
He is the face, he is the contact, the media contact of a Jerusalembbased Friends of Zion
Heritage Center, the Jerusalem Prayer Team. Well, I'm just not satisfied with that little bit of information. I I I
just can't find any more about it. I I've got to keep digging. I don't know what to do with this. So, we dig. That's what we do on this show. and we we
consult people who've already done this digging. Uh Travis on X, he goes by Nylo X or NO X. Um I've got a lot of this
information going from him. He starts the seed. I start pulling on the thread and we start developing a hell of a story,
but I got to show you first. So, he's listed as the the contact for this Friends of Zion. Well, what's his connection to the TPUSA hiring?
because I want to look at both of those and then I want to look back at what is the friends of Zion because it might be more than meets the eye. But let's go back. If you guys
remember, I don't want to play the video because I want to focus more on the actual language he used. This was from Andrew
Kovett's New York Times interview of how he came to work at TPUSA. This is
the Andrew Kovette interview that he did with Ross Dowid of the New York Times.
He asked him doubt, "You were working at Turning Point before then?" And Kulovit says, "Yeah, I'll go back a step." I was actually living and working in Hollywood.
I had a job working with Mark Bernett of The Voice, Celebrity Apprentice,
Survivor, and Shark Tip. He was doing those projects. Then at some point, he got into faith-based content. Well,
doesn't that sound a lot like what happened after Andrew Kovvet showed up at TP USA? I mean, Survivor, Celebrity Apprentice,
Shark Tank, The Voice. That's surprisingly non-Christian,
non-faith-based. These are just sheer entertainment shows. This is this is gollop.
So, he's working there. At some point,
he got into faith-based content. This is a seems to be a known technique these these uh establishment types are using.
Well, we can't get them with the go slop, so let's hit them with Christianity. Let's see if that works. I was thrown into the deep end. One day we would be at Jimmy Kimmel. His name's
been in the news a lot recently. Or we'd be at the nightly shows, then we'd go to CNN and we'd go to Fox and we'd be at a church. Oh, that's convenient. That's
amazing. Well, we'll dig in. What's the So Mark's chief of staff, Mark Bernett,
his chief of staff, a guy named Johnny Moore, started a PR company. He asked me to start it with him. I wanted to write screenplays. Actually, you and you and
everyone else doing the LA thing. My head was very much in that space. I wanted to make content. So, I kind of refused and refused and then he said,
"Why don't you just work a couple days a week? Help me get this thing off the ground. You can do your own thing." Let me ask you a question.
Do you think Johnny Moore really just pursued Andrew for no reason? Like, you think Johnny Moore just looked at Andrew and thought, "Boy, there's no one else in America that can do this man's job. I
just got to keep calling him over and over." Because if Andrew Kovette won't do this, I might not be successful.
Johnny Moore is a pro. He's been in these businesses a long time. Andrew was a screenwriter. Why in the world is Johnny Moore so insistent that Andrew
Kovette of all people come join him at his new company?
21 minutesObviously, we know that Andrew Kovette has zero talent when it comes to PR. None.
None. All you have to do is watch the last seven and a half almost eight months of TPUSA debacling and you'll understand exactly what I mean. Zero
talent at PR. So, why is Johnny Moore just just following after him? Why does he keep calling him? Why does he keep
saying, "Well, just maybe just work with me for a couple days a week." Couple of options. One is he's lying. That didn't happen at all. Or two, there's something
about Andrew Kovette and his work history that Johnny Moore finds desirable. I tend to lean towards number two.
Let's go back to it.
Let's see if we can figure out what it is. Along the way, we started bringing on conservative clients. Prageru was one of those clients. We ended up bringing on Blaze as a client. Well, what do you know about Prageru and Blaze?
These are these are two companies that are totally obsessed and controlled by our greatest ally and their supporters.
That's it. That's all the Blaze and Prager you are. It's it's it's greatest ally slop. Top to bottom, left to right,
all day long, a day, 7 days a week. That's all they care about.
It's interesting that the only two clients he could name that Johnny Moore had in his employ
were Prageru and Blae. And and and this guy who can only get Prageru and Blaze as named clients you might have actually
heard of is just obsessed with getting Andrew Kovette again. Why? Why? What is it about Andrew that fits the profile of
the kind of person Johnny Moore is dying to hire?
And at some point, Charlie came across the path of Johnny at in southern Florida at some event. He said, "Hey,
you should look into this guy. He's young. I think he's got a lot of energy.
You should contact him. Here's his email." Oh,
interesting. We're in the same paragraph here. Prageru the blaze. Charlie,
one of these at the at this point in time, one of these is not like the other.
Charlie was decidedly different. He did not have a a total whole global mission of
supporting the greatest ally at any and all times. Not yet. He would develop that, but not at this time. Not in 2017.
So, you're starting to get an idea of what's going on here. Why it is Johnny Moore who has these clients. Why it is he's wanting to bring on Andrew. Why it
is they're wanting to get in touch with Charlie. Charlie's picking up a little bit of influence. This is post 2016 election. A lot of people are crediting
Charlie for whatever reason for almost singularly getting Donald Trump elected.
And here all of a sudden we have somebody dying to get their grimy little paws inside of TPUSA.
And this is Andrew speaking. So I reached out to him, meaning Charlie said, "Hey, we'd love to talk, maybe work with you." He basically ghosted for a while. In other words, don't need you.
What do I need you for? Why am I going to pay you money? I got everything I need right here in house. We're doing fine. We don't need the likes of you.
And eventually he had some news story that he tried to handle on his own.
Didn't go so well. Kind of blew up. Then he called me. You remember what that news story was? We covered it last time I showed this video. That news story, I'm almost convinced. I'm almost 100%
positive. was the story about the girl that left TPUSA
because she had said the n-word in some text messages and she'd said she'd hated black people. I I don't honestly,
frankly,
I may not know freedom of speech and all that, but your job is not freedom of speech. I don't blame somebody who reads those text messages on a company phone
and says, "I don't know that you should work here."
Like if if for no other reason, it's just a total lapse in judgment that you would say that on company time, but it's also probably a good sign that,
you know, maybe maybe their values are incompatible. Maybe maybe what what she was saying isn't consistent with what Charlie wanted from his organization.
So, I get it. I totally get it.
But it was interesting to me. We talked about it last time. I don't want to do a whole another show on it, how that how that came to be. It came to be because another employee had left. My guess is
that other employee turned in his his uh phone. Somebody looks through the phone.
They see those text messages because it was between employees and then that's how she ends up getting fired. Her name was Crystal something. Can't remember her last name. Crystal something.
So he says, "I got to work with him via the agency for about a year and then he basically said, hey, I like you. I'll hire you. I'll be your first client. I also want to start a podcast. Help me do that."
So that's how Andrew Kovette, according to Andrew. Now Charlie's not around to hear his side of the story, but that's how he ended up working there.
And Andrew is working for Johnny. He had been working for Mark Bernett. So was Johnny. Johnny leaves and starts his own firm. Andrew leaves and goes with him.
Johnny, the only two named clients he mentions are total sellouts to our greatest ally.
All of a sudden, Johnny, who is working for these two greatest Ally sellouts,
looks and says, "You need to talk to Charlie. We need to get in touch with that guy. We need to be on his team. He needs he needs to be part of our group."
Well, they he calls him. He can't get in.
Charlie won't call him back. And then all of a sudden this manufactured crisis of arises and and Charlie's in deep and the media's coming after him and the
people are manipulating the media and they're just all over Turning Point and all of a sudden Andrew starts working with Turning Point and the problem goes
away. H must be nice. It's almost like it was designed to happen that way
almost allegedly in my opinion.
So that's what we know about how Andrew Kovette came to work with Johnny Moore, how Johnny Moore and
Andrew Kovette came to work with Charlie Kirk and TPUSA, and how Andrew ended up working solely with TPUSA
after Andrew leaves Keros. He's like leaves and goes out on his own.
Chapter 5: What and Who are the Friends of Z*on?
But let's go back to the Friends of Zion. Who is the Friends of Zion?
Wouldn't you know, I have their tax filing for that year. And it gives us an idea of who they are.
Friends of Zion. They're based in Las Vegas. Huh. A weird place for Friends of Zion to be based. Wonder what's going on there. The name of the foundation is
actually Friends of the Aden Drug Clinic, Inc..
Oh, that's really weird. Friends of the Aden Drug Clinic, Inc. doing business as friends of Zion. What in the world?
Well, I'll spoil the surprise. When you look up Adden Drug Clinic, this was a methadone clinic. This was a clinic to
help get people off of opioids. For some reason, it was run by one of the richest people in America, Miriam Adlesen.
It was run by somebody with billions and billions and billions of dollars who, among other things,
decides the opioid business is just something they have to get involved with. And it's in a kind of a seedy part of Las Vegas. If you look up the address, you can still see the building.
The building is very rundown. It's got a very basic sign that says Aden Drug Clinic or something like that.
And it's one of the strangest things I can't draw a connection. I cannot figure out other than nefarious reasons. I can't figure out a good reason why they would want this building,
why they would want this job. Now,
nefarious reasons I could come up with were maybe she or her husband or some of their friends or whatever were drug addicts and they just wanted access to
opioids. Methadone is an opioid so you could take it. You could always have access to it. You could, you know, oh,
29 minuteswe're prescribing it for our patients and, you know, take a little extra. That's one option.
That don't doesn't strike me as the right option, but it could be an option.
Another option is you want to traffic in drugs and so you want to meet a bunch of CD people who have access to a bunch of
drugs. They're drug addicts. So you bring them in and you give them counseling. You figure out who their connections are. You maybe turn them and they start helping. That's option B. You know, get involved in the drug trade,
but that that seems awfully risky for for a casino mogul. You wouldn't necessarily want your wife doing that.
So that seems a little weird. So access to drugs is option one. trafficking drugs may be option two.
The third option is maybe we want to experiment on these people. Maybe we want to figure out if we can
kind of drug people up and get them to do things for us. Like we have some dirty business we want done. We're casino mogul. I mean that's not it's not
30 minutesthe cleanest industry you've ever The answer is I don't know. The answer is I don't know. But I thought this was
very weird that Friends of Zion is actually named Friends of the Aden Drug Clinic Inc. And if you go down and look at the board members of Friends of Zion,
the board members are Sheldon Adlesen and Miriam Adlesen. Those are the two of the four directors,
Sheldon Adlesen and Miriam Adlesen.
Those are your directors. So you have a drug clinic charity masquerading as the Jerusalem prayer
team that's going out there and getting 20 million emails, 20 million social media profiles.
Like something's going on here and I'm not sure exactly what it is.
It's a very very strange scenario. Very strange scenario if I do say so myself,
but that is who I believe in my opinion allegedly that's who Andrew was working for.
31 minutesThat was his client. That's the campaign he was running. He was running a social media campaign.
What it looks like to me anyway, I can't state this as fact. I'm just going by what I see in the filings, but he's running a social media campaign that is
aiming to to capture followers for a Jerusalem prayer team.
Doesn't look like they do anything.
They're just sending out social media posts from what I can tell.
And the directors of this are a casino mogul and his wife who happen to be committed to our greatest ally. But that but that's it.
But it's just like who who are these people? What are they doing? What is this operation?
And what was Andrew doing for them? But regardless of any of the answer to any of those questions, we have now connected Andrew to the Adlesen's.
Andrew Kovette in 2017 was working for Miriam Aden at least on paper. I can't state it as fact, but I can say at least on paper, it sure looks like that.
I mean, it looks like that to me.
So, let's go to the connection between Andrew Kovette and Charlie here.
This is Candace once again taking us through a curious incident, a very
curious incident that took place with Donald Trump.
I do want to comment and share something that I hadn't shared before. Um, and I don't know if it means something, but
it's something that has always lived inside of me. uh which was something that Charlie Kirk told me before he passed and something that Andrew Kovette
confirmed to me. This is again when everybody was good and obviously things are not the same between me and Andrew Kovette because I I don't believe him. I
just don't believe him. Uh but before it was announced that Miriam
Madson gave Trump $100 million, this was I think it was announced in July or just
before July of 2024. Um, and I was told by Charlie that he and Andrew Kulvette
were present for that meeting with Donald Trump. And the reason that Charlie told me the story, uh, and again, I I could go back and try to
figure out when exactly the discussion happened, I want to say it was May. Um,
so I knew that that money went through and I knew what she wanted in exchange for $100 million. What uh Charlie and
Andrew Kovat told me was that she said that she wanted in exchange for Trump to allow them to enex not Gaza but the West
Bank. I was stunned by this. I think it has since made the news, but of course this is like a totally different pretense than October 7th. Um Hamas is
not in the West Bank and that is what she wanted in exchange after she said this to Trump. Uh Trump
went he was wherever Charlie was. Trump was adjusting his tie and looking in the
mirror and he said, "I'm going to take her money and then I'll f her over."
Okay, I am hearing this from Charlie who was their first person and Andrew who confirmed this. Andrew was also there that nobody else was there but Andrew and Charlie when when Trump said this.
A few weeks later, um, there was the Butler attempted assassination. And I
find it very strange that Donald Trump is not interested or has appeared to be
completely disinterested in determining who fired that shot.
I I'm a little intrigued by that as well.
But for this purpose, I'm more intrigued by that story because when I heard her tell that story, I was unaware of the reported
admittedly. I can't sit here and state beyond a reasonable doubt or statement of fact that that Andrew actually did
work for the Adens, but on paper it sure looks like it. Like that's the only Friends of Zion I could find that had the Jerusalem prayer team, that had the same director. Like it it looks like it's the same people.
And so if Trump says this and Andrew had that connection,
I doubt Charlie's the one that sold Trump out. I mean, just assuming somebody allowed this to leak back to Miriam Adlesen because it does seem curious that just a few weeks later there was an attack on Donald Trump.
It seems like it seems to be the connection.
And I I I was stunned by it. Again, Travis at Nylo X on on X was the first one to put
the 990 together that showed Miriam and Sheldon Adlesen as as the directors of the Friends of Zion. I kind of did my little research and checked it out. It
looks like it's the same people that he was working for. Again, outside chance it's not, but I I think it is. I'm pretty sure it is.
And then you have Donald Trump not knowing of this connection with Andrew saying, "Yeah, we took $100 million from
this woman. She wants to annex the West Bank. We're not going to let her, but I'm going to take her money."
And then 6 weeks later, he gets shot at. Could be unconnected.
Could be a total coincidence.
But it does seem that Donald Trump is different since not since Butler, but since that conversation.
Seems like Donald Trump's a different person. We've we've run around asking ourselves, why is he so different?
And I will say this, if Andrew was connected to Miriam Adlesen, if I'm right, that that was the right company and that is who he was representing,
that's not the kind of connection you give up.
I've been around these nonprofits. I've been around working with rich people and done work for very wealthy people. Um,
you don't just walk away and never talk to like that's a connection you don't sour, particularly when they have that kind of money. We're not talking about
somebody with $50 million. We're not talking about someone 50, you know, $500 million. We're talking about someone with basically unlimited money. Billions
and billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars. That's not something you give up.
And if you think you can curry favor with them, you do.
You do. Imagine the favor Andrew Kovette would have curried. Just just thinking outside the box here. Just just thought experiment. This is not I'm not saying
this happened, but imagine the favor that Andrew Kovette would curry with the AD family if he would have gone to them with the story.
It would be incalculable.
And if he convinced Charlie also to go with that story, the downstream revenue
effects could be basically unlimited for TPUSA, for Andrew, for Charlie.
There could be business opportunities,
side deals. There could be I mean, these people have so much money that you can't even describe it. Like imagine you had $50,000 and somebody needed $10. You'd be like,
"Yeah, here's 10 bucks." Whatever.
That's what that's what kind of money we're talking about when we're talking about somebody potentially giving TPUSA 10 million or hundred million dollars or more. That's like 1020 bucks to these people. Maybe a hundred.
Like if you have $50,000 and you could have tremendous impact on American foreign policy, American economic policy for 100 bucks, you'd give a 100 bucks in
a second. That's the kind of money we're talking about.
And so I look at this. I want you to keep in mind what we looked at with Andrew's
LinkedIn profile. I'll go back to it just so we can all keep it in mind because what I'm I'm about to go into something pretty deep here and I want you to understand why I'm doing it. We
go back to his profile here. There's this gap from October 12 to May 14.
There's a 10 month a 20 or month or so gap where he's nowhere to be found on LinkedIn. And then when he shows back
up, he's working for Mark Bernett. He only works there a little over a year.
He works there with Johnny Moore. And then he and Johnny Moore end up working at Johnny Moore's new company, the Chyros Company. And it's the Chyros
company where he's working with the Blaze, Prageru, and apparently Miriam Adlesen.
Keep that combo in mind as I go through this next little story here because there's been there's been a
really interesting fascinating cultural phenomenon that's taken place since Charlie Kirk passed away in that there
is an all-out war on Jimmy Kimmel. Twice now we've seen them try to take Jimmy Kimmel's career away from him. And I am not a fan. I'm not a fan of people who
try to take someone's career away because of something they've said. not something he did,
something he said. Now, Jimmy Kimmel falsely attributed, I believe, falsely attributed in the wake of Charlie Kirk's
assassination, he falsely attributed that to Donald Trump supporter, some right-wing MAGA person.
Should you lose your career over a mistake in reporting? No. No. Clearly not. He's a comedian. He was doing a
late night bit to audience of maybe a million people,
two million tops. I mean, how many people watch these late night shows? And it didn't land. But he he goes out there, you know, Dave Chappelle, Theo
Vaughn, they will go out and work smaller rooms of 200 to 500, maybe a couple thousand people. They will work
these rooms for months, sometimes years to perfect a 60minute comedy special.
And then they'll go on HBO or they'll go on Showtime or they'll go on pay-per-view or they'll go on Netflix and they'll do their 60-minute bit.
Jimmy Kimmel has to come up with a show every night, five nights a week.
You're not going to All those jokes aren't going to land. I've been to some of these shows. I went to a Theo Vaughn show that I was fairly confident he was working out new material because the
first half just slayed. I mean, he just crushed it and and it was hilarious and I could not stop laughing. I had like a stitch in my side. I was laughing so
hard. My wife and I at one point were looking at each other. Neither one of us, you could see our eyes. They just like we're so swollen from laughing so much.
And then he gets to the point where you see he's struggling to work through new material and he's trying multiple punchlines and he's telling stories trying to see what lands and doesn't
land, reading the room. You can see him looking at notes like he's coming up with a new show. You can see it in real time. It was a master at the top of his
craft in his prime. You're watching him work. This is how the greatest comedian or one of the top five comedians of his generation comes up with new material.
I'm watching it in real time. It was a special moment. It was at the Ryman auditorium a year or two ago. It was beautiful moment.
So why would you go so hard after Jimmy Kimmel just because he made a bad joke and then he did it again this week. So they went after him. He was taken from
TV for a little while and he was pushed to the side and then he got back on air and he's been a good boy for the last 6
months and then a week or two ago he made another joke about Melania. He said Melania was glowing like an expectant
widow, expectant widow. Not an expectant mother, you know, they have a glow, but an expectant widow. And obviously a bad
joke, you know, but you should never joke about the death of a president. I don't I don't even I don't find it funny. Whether I like the president or not, I do not want them harmed. No
violence, no attempts, no nothing. It's just it's it's base. It's coarse. It's it's it's it shouldn't happen. Not in a free society. We should not have leaders who are in jeopardy for their lives.
So, it was a bad joke, but you take his career over it. Well, let me go back to something because I think I've maybe identified the source of Jimmy Kimmel

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Chapter 6: Is this 2016 Clip the Origin of the Anti Jimmy Kimmel Movement?
hate. Believe it or not, I think I figured it out. It it it I've been marinating on this for months now. And
it wasn't until this recent goround in my deep dive into Andrew Kovvette that I think I spotted the problem. And I don't even know if Jimmy Kimmel knows what the problem is.
But it makes sense to me that this minute clip I'm about to play you might be why his career is in jeopardy.
This goes all the way back.
What year was this? Hold on. This was nine years ago. 2016 during the Donald Trump campaign the first time.
During the first Donald Trump campaign,
Jimmy Kimmel is speaking at an award show and he makes the following joke.
But television can also tear us apart. I mean, if it wasn't for television, would Donald Trump be running for president?
No. He would be at home right now quietly rubbing up against his wife malaria while she pretends to be asleep.
Many have asked who is to blame for Donald Trump, the Donald Trump phenomenon. And I'll and I'll say this,
he was right. A lot of people in the 2016 election, some of you may not have followed politics very closely back then, or some of you may not have followed Donald Trump very closely back
then. This was after Donald Trump was the known Republican nominee. This was two months before the election with Hillary Clinton.
And a lot of really wealthy entertainment types were trying to figure out how did Donald Trump survive and do the impossible. How was he able
to pull off a win against the billions and billions and billions of dollars in free
advertising against him, free attacks against him. Every media outlet, 70 80 90 95% of their coverage against Donald
Trump was negative. every athlete, every entertainer, every academ academician, every single professor, every school,
all of polite society despised the man.
He won the nomination anyway.
And a lot of people were asking this question.
Jimmy Kimmel's going to answer this question. And I think it put a target on his back that persists to this day. I'll tell you who because he's sitting right there. That's right. That guy.
That guy is Mark Bernett,
Andrew Kovett's boss right before this was taken. This is the guy who launched Andrew Kovette's career.
Mark Bernett, the man who brought us Celebrity Apprentice. Thanks to Mark Bernett,
we don't have to watch reality shows anymore because we're living in one. Thank you, Mark. That's a forced smile.
That's a forced smile. I want to go back to Jimmy Kimmel's face when he tells the joke. I want you to see that. Does he look like he's kidding? Does Jimmy
Kimmel look like he's joking? Right there. That's the man right there. Does Jimmy Kimmel look like he's remotely joking?
Jimmy Kimmel is serious right now.
Serious as a heart attack. You want to know where Donald Trump came from? It's that so right there. Mark Bernett humanized the new Hitler.
He's the one who did this. Donald Trump's career was on the ropes. He had bankruptcies. He had business failures.
He had scandals. He had personal flaws.
He had, you know, five children by three wives. That was the guy who would never be president. Ever be president.
And you son of a biscuit eater. You,
Mark Bernett, made him look lovable. You put him on TV for nine or 10 straight seasons. You guys made hundreds of millions of dollars together.
Everybody loved him. No, I'm not bashing Trump right now. What I'm doing is pointing out why Jimmy Kimmel was furious. Jimmy Kimmel was not the only
one furious at this moment, but Jimmy Kimmel was the only one who correctly identified how Trump was able to survive. how he was able to survive.
Because prior to 2016,
100% of the time, the media could destroy anyone they wanted to. If the media decided you were, look what they did to Ron Paul.
Look what they did to Ross Perau. Look what they did to George Wallace.
Anybody look what they did to to to David Duke, look what I mean, anybody they did not like. And some of these people were unlikable. Some of these
people had personal flaws. Donald Trump had personal flaws.
And what they would do is they would seize on those personal flaws. Whether it was a political belief, whether it was something in their personal life,
whatever it was, the media could get together, they could collaborate, and they could make sure that person had no real power. They would not be able to survive the media onslaught.
That look on Jimmy Kimmel's face right there is a genuine, sincere disgust for Mark Bernett.
And what he did was in this moment he told the whole world that's the guy responsible for Donald Trump. I'm sure
Mark Bernett felt that for years. I'm sure he's been stewing on this moment for years. We often talk about how
Donald Trump wouldn't have decided to run for president but for the fact that the last White House correspondent dinner he went to in 2011 before this
one this year. The last one he went to was 15 years ago and Barack Obama made fun of him in front of everybody.
And you could see Donald Trump stewing.
These people when they get to this level, their their reputation is worth more than money. They have more money than they could spend in 10 lifetimes.
Mark Mark Bernett could not go go broke if he had to. Mark Bernett could not spend all of his money. If he set out today to try to spend all of his money,
he could not spend all of his money.
So he So money is no longer an incentive. It's the adoration of the people. It's all these people in the room. This is an awards show for
Hollywood. This is where Hollywood gets together and pat each other on the back and tells everybody how great they all are. And Jimmy Kimmel roasted him right
in front of everybody. And Mark Bernett has this goofy laugh on his face, which is, "I'll kill you, Mfer. I will take
you out one day." Look at all these people laughing at Mark Bernett's expense. And look how awkwardly he is, how lonely he looks in this moment.
Thank you, Mark. Thank you for coming all the way from England to uh to tear us all apart with your intricate plot. It worked.
You sneaky little crumpet muncher. You do you know what it must feel like to be Mark Brunette and have an entire
auditorium of the richest and most powerful people in Hollywood laughing at your expense.
But he made a comment in there that I thought I need to follow up on that.
What is this came all the way from England business to ruin our lives. Who is Mark Bernett? Who is this guy?
Chapter 7: Who is Mark Burnett and How Did He Get Rich and Powerful?
Well, let me tell you a little bit about Mark Bernett. I'm not going to pull up a bunch of facts here. I'm just going to run through them.
Mark Bernett was born in England. 1968, I think somewhere in there in the 60s.
He was born in England.
And um that may I may have their year all wrong,
but he's born into a relatively modest family.
Born into a relatively modest family at the age of 17.
He leaves school. He had graduated from I don't know what they call it in England. Basically American version of high school. Leaves high school,
graduates. He tries what we call college. I don't know university or whatever they call it, postsecary,
whatever. But he tries college, doesn't like it. So he enrolls in the military and he ends up in the very prestigious
English military unit, United Kingdom military unit called the Third Battalion Parachute Regiment. These are like kind of like our special guys. Not special
that way. Not like not handicapped special, but I mean like they're they're elite. He ends up in the third battalion parachute re regiment
where he excels and he becomes a section commander. While he's there, he's there at 5 years. He does tours in Northern
Ireland during the troubles and he does a tour in the Faulland Islands where he has a very special role during the war with Argentina. You know,
United Kingdom and Argentina went to war in 1982 and while they were at war there were a lot of prisoners and those prisoners had to be negotiated and exchanged and everything else and he was
tasked with handling that responsibility. who's very trusted, very smart tactician.
So, you think a guy like that has the world at his fingertips? Why is he leaving the military? You know, he seems like he's going to excel in this military game. He's he's already risen
very quickly, but he doesn't. After 5 years, he leaves.
And after he leaves the British army, he wants to move to Central America. He wants to work in weapons and special
tactics advisement. What's going on in Central America at the time? the drug trade, the drug trade, the Iran Contra
affair that took place there. So you have the Contras in the Sandinistas, they're already arguing by this time.
They're already um arguing for supremacy. You already have Manuel Noriega setting up shop in Panama. So anyone going in the early 1980s to
Central America to work in weapons and tactics is involved in this life. This is what they're doing. This is the life they want to live.
But on his way to Central America, he stops over in Los Angeles.
And when he stops in Los Angeles, he decides, I don't want to go excel as a tactician, a strategic adviser, or a
weapons guy. No, instead, I'm going to stay in Los Angeles. So, you think,
well, great, Los Angeles. Wonder what he did. I bet it was an amazing job. Well, he became a nanny.
That's what he did. There's nothing wrong with nannies, but it's it's an unusual career path for a guy who was the section commander of the third
battalion parachute regiment who served 5 years at in an elite unit in the British military with deployments during
the troubles in the Faulland War, who was negotiating prisoner exchanges at a very high level.
54 minutesThat's a very strange career move for somebody who leaves that level of military service and is instead intending to go work in Central America where the drug trade is active and we
have communists fighting the free world and we have uh the the the battles going on in Nicaragua and we have what's going
on in Panama. It's a very strange career change to to give that entire life up to go be a nanny in Beverly Hills. But
that's what Mark Bernett did. This is the same Mark Bernett they were just laughing at.
Then he became a housekeeper in Malibu.
A nanny in Beverly Hills and then a housekeeper in Malibu. This is an elite special operator. This is a guy who was
going to make a career out of advising guerilla groups, Western governments on how to fight communists in the Western
Hemisphere, how to get weapons in and out of the area. and he's a nanny and a housekeeper.
Mark Bernett, celebrity apprentice.
Then he leaves the nannying and housekeeping business and you think,
"Oh, okay. Now he's going to go be a special operator. Now he's going to go into Central America. Now, no, no, no,
no, no. Not at all." He moves to Venice Beach where he opens a t-shirt sales booth on Venice Beach. He sells t-shirts.
He He gets a bunch of He gets pre t-shirts printed up and sells them on Venice Beach.
That's his career trajectory. Special operator planning to work in a very high level at a very strange time in Central America,
but first let me go be a housekeeper,
then let me be a nanny. Now let me go sell t-shirts. That is not the career path of most people who end up sitting
in front of Jimmy Kimmel, being roasted in front of the richest and most powerful people. This is not the career path of a guy who ends up being a business partner with Donald Trump. Just a few years later,
we're talking the '9s. This was happening.
In 1992, he launched, again, strange career trajectory. He launches something called the echo race. This is where
people compete for money racing around the world or racing, you know, racing.
And he does that for three years just behind the scenes. And I have no idea why, but they finally pick it up for television in 1995. And now he's moved
his way into Hollywood. Now he's starting to learn the Hollywood business. One wonders why he went from house why he went from
military to strategic advising and weapons to housekeeping to nannying to selling
t-shirts to running a racing league to working in Hollywood. It's a very strange arc. But in 1995, they pick up
this echo race and for five years he has a televised race
until 2000 when he launches what may be the most successful reality television franchise in history, Survivor.
That's Mark Bernett. In 2000, he launches Survivor. It has gone on for 45 consecutive seasons.
It's an interesting game in that they go through very strange global locations,
isolated places in the middle of nowhere, off the coast, typically on an island.
It's a master class in studying group dynamics in real time, manipulation,
stress. You're surveilling people for at a time. You're telling stories.
You're manipulating the environment through games that you know one group will do better at than the other. Oh,
this is the game we're going to play today to kind of shift the thing and see how everybody responds. It's like an intelligence operation,
but it's profitable and you guys love watching it. A lot of you do.
And he did that for four years. He's done it for 25 years, but at this point,
he done it for four years when he launches the Apprentice in 2004.
And that is the rehab of the Donald Trump brand. When I was a kid in the 1980s, Donald Trump was synonymous with success.
He was in his like 30s. He was young,
maybe 40, maybe early 40s. But Donald Trump, he, you know, if Donald Trump got involved, it was successful. It was big buildings. It was gold signs. It was his name on absolutely everything.
But by the time 2004 had run around,
Donald Trump had been through the ringer. Like he he was in not ideal shape.
And in 2004, they launched The Apprentice. And at first, it was poorly received because it was Donald Trump and he kind of was having some rehab uh image issues. But within a year or two,
people loved the show. And I'll admit, I watched it. It was a great show. It was very entertaining. And Trump was magnetic on camera. He was somebody you
just wanted to tune in the next week to see who he fired. Like, and you felt like you were learning something about business, about life, about relationships. I mean, it was a really cool program. It was a really cool show.
And through this, through apprentice and later celebrity apprentice, Donald Trump and Mark Bernett became close. They had
a close personal relationship, a close business relationship. They made hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe more off of this 50/50 partnership they had in The Apprentice.
Uh, at one point, Mark Bernett's son was the ringbearer in Donald Trump's wedding to Melania.
Now, flash back or flash forward to 2016 where Jimmy Kimmel's on stage roasting
Mark Bernett. And before he roasted Mark Bernett, he roasted Donald Trump's wife by calling her malaria.
But it really helps shape the perception of Donald Trump.
Along the way, Mark Bernett, this very strange career arc who's now worth hundreds of millions of dollars, marries a woman named Roma Downey.
Roma Downey was an actress. She was an actress.
Uh she was an actress in a show called Touched by an Angel. So this was a um
this was a Christian themed show. Then after that she started being a producer of Christian television. She and Mark Bernett together produced something
called the Bible for television. And then what they would do is they tell Old Testament stories, New Testament stories. and they would they would tell this story about
Bible characters and it just jumped off the page. It came to life. It was beautiful. I don't know if you've ever seen it. It was wonderful. It truly was a good well well produced great idea and it was very commercially successful.
They had other Christian shows but none as successful as the Bible. She acted in nothing as successful as Touched by an Angel. But they had this marriage. They
had this relationship. And this is the life Mark Bernett is leading.
When he gets on the crowd and Jimmy Kimmel starts roasting him in front of 10,000 of his closest friends or 5,000, how many are there?
This is the This is where Mark Bernett is when all this takes place. And you can imagine what Mark Bernett thought of Jimmy Kimmel in that moment.
In 2024, when Donald Trump wins his second term, he actually appoints Mark Bernett to a very important role. He is the special envoy to the United Kingdom.
That's a job he will hold until 10 days before Charlie Kirk is removed from this planet. I don't know if there's a connection to those dates or not, but he leaves at the end of August 2025.
But if you look at the trajectory of Mark Bernett's career, it aligns with patterns we see in long-term embedded
intelligence assets. Oh, we could use you in Central America, Mr. Guy we've developed through the media uh through the military. That would be great. But
might might you be more valuable over here by getting to develop a close relationship with somebody? We we'll make you their housekeeper
and you can you can get to know that person. Hang on.
Um this is this is the career trajectory of
an embedded asset who then is is transitioning between an operational asset and then becoming a cultural asset and then even entering the diplomatic
sphere. Somebody who's touching all areas of what's necessary at any given moment. I'll give you some examples from the J files.
Here is one example of Mark Bernett where he shows up in the famed files here. Let me uh make this a little bigger for you.
If you follow along with me at the Don't worry about this up here. This is just uh this
woman forwarding this to Jeffrey of the J Files fame. Here is the email from Mark Bernett to this woman named Sarah.
They've they've blurred her out, but I'll tell you who she is in a second.
Sarah, I will be very glad to find you a place on the Celebrity Apprentice. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes for you. Oh, this Sarah must be a
very important person. We'll find out who she is.
You already live in New York. It's for charity and it rewards fun characters who are smart. you are all of those things and the promotional value might
bring a being to being on a network television series is highly respected is immeasurable. Then he gives them the dates. The cast flies in October 13th.
It wraps on November the 13th. You can leave if you get cut early. Be a great promotion for you. I've CCD my co-executive producer who will answer any questions.
And this is the way I was able to figure out who this is. By the way, I will work with you on developing Duchess for a day and we can use Celebrity Apprentice as a launchpad to sell that series. So Mark
Bernette seems very in invested in this woman. Who is she?
Who is this mysterious Sarah? She must be quite the figure. Well, she's not.
I can assure you she's not cuz I was able to figure out who she was.
This is me pull it up and make it a little bigger here. This is who Sarah is of the
J Files fame. Oh, not that one. There's a woman named Sarah Mlan
is this sort of I don't know normall looking woman I mean like a normal five
just a normal gal not the type of people you saw dotting the celebrity apprentice those typically were very amazing looking people I watched a few seasons
of it they were like supermodels she would have stood out New York Times Washington Post and USA Today bestseller
Sarah Mlan is the author of historical romance novels. Huh?
This is the woman we want to put on. A, she's not a celebrity.
B, she writes trashy romance novels. I looked them up. It's just like mom porn.
That's all. I shouldn't have said that word. Now we're going to get dinged.
Uh, I I said corn. YouTube corn. C O R N. Mom.
That's all she writes. You look at the the covers of these books, you know exactly what they're about the second you see the cover. So, you got this kind
of I'm not being mean, but this like frumpy, normal looking gal who writes trashy romance novels, and we're going to put her on the Celebrity Apprentice.
Why?
Well, maybe if we go to Wikipedia, we can find out. Is there anything about this girl's past that would land her on Mark Bernett's
radar and might give us a clue as to why Mark Bernett was able to fashion himself into some sort of a
icon? Here's Sarah Mlan. She is a New York Times best-selling American author of young adult novels and romance novel.
Okay. first adult romance novel. Nine rules to break when romancing a rake.
Oh, that sounds great. I mean, doesn't particularly appear on her face as somebody who would be on Celebrity Apprentice. Let's go to her bio.
Anything in her bio? She was born in Lincoln, Rhode Island. Okay. Italian father, British mother. Nothing weird there. Oh, the website reports her
mother worked for MI6. Oh, oh, oh.
Her mother was British intelligence. Her mother was British intelligence. Mark Bernett excelled through the British military.
Mark left and went into what many of us would consider an intelligence field or wanted to in Central America, but then was diverted into housekeeping.
Oh, that's weird. So we have this highly trained special operator who is going to be moving to Central
America where the CIA, MI6, all the Western intelligence agencies were trying to kick the Soviets off the
continent and you had the Sandinistas who were the Soviet satellite state trying to be
founded and you had the Contras and all these other groups that were fighting the Sandinistas and so you had all these intelligence operators moving to Central America and that's where Mark Bernett
wanted to move, but he got diverted when he went to LA and ended up as a housekeeper and a nanny.
Here, kids, here's your new nanny. He was a Green Beret last year. That's kind of weird.
Like, I like Nate. I don't want him as a nanny to my kids. Valhalla,
8 minuteskeep podcasting. I don't want you nannying.
I don't want Joe Kent nannying. Like Green Berets don't need a nannying.
But for some reason, somebody thought an operator at this high level needs to get into the nanny business and the housekeeping business and the
t-shirt sales business as almost as if they're trying to spend some time in LA getting him acclimated to the ground.
And I think that exchange in the J files is just one piece of evidence. And if you look through the rest of it, you'll if you search his name in the files,
you'll see several things where you'll go, looks like he might be intel.
Well, that that was one of them that jumped off the page to me. He's doing a favor for someone who does not belong on Celebrity Apprentice by putting her on Celebrity Apprentice and her mom just
happened to be MI6. And it wasn't like she was secret MI6. The girl is trading on the fact that her mom was MI6 by putting it on her website.
o, it's in the context of all of this that Andrew Corvette ends up working for Mark Bernett.
So, does Johnny Moore. And they leave Mark Bernett,
the the same guy we've just talked about. They end up leaving him to go open their own shop.
and their clients. The only ones he can name by name when he's talking to the New York Times are Prager, you and the Blaze,
greatest Ally fans.
Okay, now I think I see what's going on here. Andrew Kovette, it's starting to make more sense. Now it makes more sense why you guys were just tracking Charlie
Kirk and why there was all of a sudden this impossible position Charlie Kirk was put in where internal text messages
from a woman who was very close to Charlie Kirk. Probably the closest person that worked was this Crystal woman, the closest person at TPSA to Charlie Kirk at the time. uh he called her the de facto COO,
10 minutesa a role that would be held months later by Tyler Ber and she gets run out on a rail and the
media is relentless and they're trashing Charlie Kirk and they're trashing TP USA and Charlie Kirk's at risk of losing all of his momentum that he's built through
the first five, six years of this organization being up and running. And that's when in a fit of desperation, he reaches out to Mark Bernett's former employer employee.
Interesting. Interesting times. Interesting times.
And it's that former Mark Bernett employee who about the same time all this is going on with Charlie Kirk.
All this is going on with Charlie Kirk and he's reaching out to Andrew Kovette
about this same time that Erica Kirk shows up on the scene. Interesting.
And we've got to put this all in context. We got to put this all in the context.
When you read a tweet like this just a few years later after Andrew Kovette's shown up on the scene after Andrew
Chapter 8: All These Worlds Were Colliding When Charlie Kirk Turned Against War in Iran
Kovette has de facto taken over the communication operations at TPUSA, after
Erica Kirk shown up and then we see a tweet like this in
April of this from Charlie Kirk. April 3, 2025. Just
5 months in a week before he'll be taken off this earth. It's going unnoticed because so much other news is happening.
But the war drums are beating again in DC. The wararmongers worry this is their last chance to get the white whale
12 minutesthey've been chasing for 30 years. An all-out regime change war against Iran.
A new Middle East war would be a catastrophic mistake. Our military stockpiles are depleted from three years of backing Ukraine. Our effort to
reshore manufacturing has only just begun and will take years to bear fruit.
We would worsen our already immense deficit national debt. Iran is larger than Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan
combined. A war would not be easy and could easily become a calamity. Thanks to President Trump's restraint during
his first term, America has a golden opportunity to pull away from Middle Eastern quagmires for good. Everybody likes to focus on this first paragraph.
I like to focus on the last paragraph.
We shouldn't throw that opportunity away that some DC hasbins can feel tough by
sending young Americans to die yet again. Charlie Kirk, five months and one week before he would be erased from the human record.
What do we know about who was backing this Iran war that Charlie Kirk was very harshly criticizing?
Who do we know who was backing this war?
Tucker Carlson gave us the answer just this week.
Tucker Carlson claims billionaires Rupert Murdoch, Miriam Adlesen pushed Trump into war with Iran.
Hannity and Levvin denied Carlson's allegation, New York Times, while Murdoch and Aden did not respond.
Oh. Oh. Oh, I get it.
I get it.
I get it. Andrew Kovette worked for a guy whose career sure looked like an intelligence operation continuing.
Who's very powerful. So powerful that when somebody sllights him in 2016,
that guy gets fired not once but maybe twice. Nine years later, 10 years later,
somebody who is very close to the president, someone who's very close to Miriam Medson.
Andrew Kovette then leaves that special operator's employee to go out with Johnny Moore, who we'll talk about later. He deserves his own
show because this this story I'm telling you tonight will make a lot more sense when I give you that that part of it. I'm not going to do it tonight. Don't have time.
But Andrew Kovette leaves a guy, Mark Bernett, who looks like a long-term intel operation,
and he goes to work for Johnny Moore,
15 minuteswho also left Mark Bernett, the what appears to be a long-term intel operation. They immediately go out and get two named clients that they they're
willing to name, Prager, U and the Blaze, huge fans of our greatest ally.
They pick up a third client, Friends of Zion,
the Jerusalem prayer team. We now know the Friends of Zion might have been just the Adles.
We know that the Adles gave Donald Trump $100 million and Donald Trump said, "I'm going to f her over." I believe that's accurate. I take Candace's word on that,
but seems right. I've not heard Andrew come out and say,
"That didn't happen." I've not heard Erica come out and say Candace didn't tell her that story. So, I tend to believe it happened.
And then in the midst of all this,
Charlie gets all uppety and decides he doesn't want to go to war with Iran.
Oh, that's not an option you get, sir.
No, no, no. We've got entirely too much invested in this war with Iran. This is a multi- trillion dollar operation. You
think the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan netted trillions of dollars? Just wait. If you could clear Iran off the map,
if you could take Lebanon, they've already taken Syria, take Lebanon off the map, they've taken Libya off the map,
Jordan's next, obviously Turkey.
You create a non-Arab progress ally pro-western government
European style governance in the entire Middle East from basically Tunisia
to Pakistan or at least Afghanistan
from Greece to Saudi Arabia maybe even through Saudi Arabia, maybe to the sea.
The economic consequences of that are not not negligible. I don't even think you could measure them in the trillions.
I mean, this could be hundreds of trillions. This could be thousands of trillions, like quadrillions of dollars long term.
And Charlie was verbal against it.
Showing up in the White House, are you kidding me?
showing up in the White House to argue against this, then taking to Twitter to argue against it. Come on.
I mean, just in terms of what they've done in Gaza, they think they're going to potentially get a trillion dollars in value. All that beachfront property,
all that access to freshwater ports and all that. I mean, you're talking potentially trillions of dollars. Now,
do the West Bank. Now to Iran, Turkey,
18 minutesLebanon, Syria, Jordan, guys. That's what Charlie Kirk was fighting.
That's what he was against.
And these were the people on the other side. They worked at TPUSA.
They got into TPUSA and they were working there. That's my opinion based on all of this.
But it raises the question now you have to ask about a very controversial claim Candace
Owens made that has never been adequately refuted in my opinion.
Charlie uh lost his life. Uh Charlie was in the Hamptons and he had um
more than one event, but he had uh essentially what was staged an intervention was staged by Bill Aman
because Charlie's thoughts, Charlie's rational thoughts about Israel were a no no. This is this is not the route that
you should be going on. and Charlie was surrounded by his friends, his quote unquote friends. Uh, Bill Aman was very
upset and threats were made. That is what uh I am I am told and I will tell
you that I am very happy for Bill Aman to dispute this narrative. In fact, he was asked to dispute this narrative. Uh
Max Blumenthal went out to him today and Bill Aman came back and said, "I I have receipts. I can show you." And he did
not provide the receipts. This is not how it went down. I know it went down this way. I'm waiting for one of them to
go on record and to say that it didn't go down this way. It was at this time that BB Netany and Yahoo was called and
Charlie was invited to Israel. This was an under duress situation, I would say,
because I've been in these situations before. When I started asking very sensible questions about Israel, as
someone who had dedicated her political life to supporting Israel many times alongside Charlie Kirk, I was met with
the very same pressure. And just like Charlie was being invited to Israel, I was invited somewhere else. And when
this arrived to me, it felt like a threat. You know, I got to tell that it felt like a threat. Like not like, "Hey,
come here and we can educate you because you're my friend." More like this is your last chance. That's how it felt to
me. I can't speak to how it felt Charlie. Um, and I know that Charlie was offered a ton of money in this moment. A
ton of money. who's been throwing around a ton of money that we've talked about because one of the things that Candace
has been struggling with is where would the money have come from who's been throwing around a ton of money?
I can't answer that definitively, but I've talked about people tonight who throw around a ton of money
to get people on board with the foreign policy objectives of our greatest ally in the Middle East.
Hundreds of millions of dollars out of whack.
And for an organization like Turning Point, you're talking that kind of money.
Lots and lots of money. Now, can I say definitively that Miriam Adlesen or Bill Aman or one of
these people was willing to pay Charlie off basically to shut up and get out of the way? I can't say that definitively,
but it's consistent with everything we've talked about.
It's consistent with everything we've talked about.
I just want to know who killed Charlie Kirk, how and why.
I I find it nearly impossible while examining all of this data,
all the things that were going on, not just the last 6 months of Charlie's life, but the last 10 years of Charlie's
life. I find it nearly impossible to believe none of that was connected to his demise.
And it just happened to be some weirdo from St. George, Utah, who heard Charlie Kirk was going to be in town,
happened to crawl up to just the right spot and took a shot of a lifetime,
single shot, shot of a lifetime, and then stupidly confessed every detail to anyone who would listen.
I have a hard time believing that.
Maybe that's true. Maybe the trial will get here and we'll find out. Oh, you know, Baron, you you misread this. I
don't think I have. I don't think Tyler Robinson planned all this by himself.
I think all this had something to do with it. Everything we've talked about tonight, it all led up to the fact that Charlie was alive and then he wasn't. In my opinion, that's that's just to me
that's an inescapable conclusion at this point. The more I look into it, the more convinced I am that all of the things Charlie had going on around him
contributed to his death. Including these meetings, including the money,
including the this and that and the intel connections and the operator connections and the our only clients are
pro greatest ally. And when we get to Johnny Moore, maybe it'll make more sense because if you look at Johnny Moore's clients, some of his recent clients, holy mackerel.
But if you want a practical lesson, a practical non Charlie Kirk related lesson,
Andrew Kovette was one of the first people to tweet about the ballroom in the wake of the frankly tragic situation at the White House
correspondent center. Even if it was, no matter what happened, it was tragic. I mean, guns should not be fired around civilians and they were.
Um,
and so it's tragic. No matter how you cut it, it's tragic. people could have lost their life and that would be an absolute tragedy.
And in the wake of that, there was a psychological operation led by had to be led by somebody with the pull to start
and execute a psychological operation like that. And one of the first people to join in on that was Andrew Kovette.
This is just my first night of covering Andrew. There will be more.
There will be more, but I wanted to cover this aspect of Andrew connection to Mark Bernett. How Mark Bernett
connected to Johnny Moore with Andrew Kovette. How Johnny Moore and Andrew Kovette connected to our greatest ally in political Zionism. how that connected
to Charlie Kirk and how Charlie Kirk then started bucking that
group that had formed around him and then lost his life about the same time. When you look at it in context,
everybody likes say, "Oh, you guys just say stuff. You're just making stuff up. You just you just want to trash TP USA. You just want to trash Erica Kirk." No,
no, no. Not at all. Not at all. I want to know who killed Charlie Kirk. And there's a lot going on here that needs to be explored and none of it's being allowed to be explored.
Why?
Why are we so fixated on this weirdo from St. George, Utah, when all of this other stuff is going on around him?
And you want the evidence that it's connected in my opinion. Look at TP USA after the fact. Charlie Kirk for 6 months was pretty adamant. I don't want
to go to war with Iran. Period. End of story. It'd be negative to the United States. It would absolutely have consequences. I'm willing to give up money over it. I'm willing to to take a
hit to my reputation over it. I'm willing to give up access to sources.
I'm willing to give up access to parties and all this other stuff. I'm going to bring on Candace Owens. I'm going to bring on Tucker Carlson. I'm going to bring on Dave Smith. I'm going to bring on Megan Kelly because these people
don't want the war either. And I want to give him a platform. I want to make him big as possible. I want that position to win the day. Bang. That's when he died.
That's when he died. It was in the midst of that when he died.
That is the story of Charlie Kirk's demise.
It would be the single most convenient random furry lover in history taking out
Charlie Kirk on his own, completely planned because it solved a massive problem that our greatest ally was
having. And that was a significant investment of theirs with tens of millions of followers who was beloved,
who had one of the top podcasts in the nation. Not like small. I mean, like right now they'll have 200 people watch that podcast. They've ruined it. They've
ruined it. Charlie Kirk would have millions of people watch every episode.
Millions of people watch every thousands of people would line up. They couldn't get in. It was standing 90
degree weather. The day he died, it was 90 degrees.
There were people lined up so far they could barely see him on a random Wednesday at noon
and he was campaigning hard behind the scenes, we later learned, and in public against the war in Iran,
against intervention over there. And there was tremendous pressure being placed on him. Rob McCoy, not terribly long before he died.
And now in the context of what happened in Aspen and what happened in the Hamptons, the the speech makes more sense, but it's still on Rob McCoy's YouTube channel. You can go look at it
and you can or his church's YouTube channel. And he says, "Ah, I've talked to Charlie. He's not going to talk about our greatest ally anymore. Not going to talk about it anymore. He's moving on to
the Muslims now. Now he's got a problem with Muslims. That sounds like a pressure campaign.
He's not going to talk about Iran anymore. He's not going to talk He's just talking about the problem with Muslims. Okay.
Gotcha. Well, isn't that convenient that he happened to die right then in the midst of all this?
two weeks after a pressure campaign in the Hamptons. Four weeks after a pressure campaign in Aspen,
what strangely timed demise.
Or or you could believe that all of that might have had something to do with the fact that he's not here.
I'm going to spend some time. I didn't get to the ballroom tonight. I ran out of time. I knew I would. That's why I didn't do the opening at the beginning.
I'll hopefully I'll cover it soon. Ian Carol did a fantastic job in the ballroom Friday night. I've got some additional information. Uh I'm going to
highlight some of the things he talked about. Um he did a great job with he also relied heavily on the Dre Files or the Dre Dossier. So I'll talk about her
as well. Um highly recommend everything Dre Dre Dre Dossier has said about the ballroom. Everything he and Carol said Friday night. I total alignment with both of them.
It's a it's a it's a great educational,
but I do want to do a show on it, but I keep putting it at the end and I'm and I keep not getting to it. Um I intended to get to it Thursday. I didn't uh and I
intended to get to it tonight and I just didn't have time. But but the other things take priority. This the news from Candace late last week that Mikey McCoy
reached out to her and said, "Look more into Andrew Kovette." I I obliged. I want to look more into Andrew Kovette. I did this weekend and I found all this.
I found all this. I want to do uh one more thing here. Um and then we can get to
some of your comments. Um one more thing here because this guy has done just tremendous work on this story.
Uh he's the one that put me on the 990s that I was looking at. This guy named Travis on X. Nylo X. N I H I L O X. This
guy right here. Um only has 17,000 followers. Uh, but he's he's followed by some really fancy people. Go check him
out. This guy's great. He's a great follow for this stuff. He's a deep diver. He's a good thorough researcher.
Um, and you can read what he had to say about some of this stuff. Um, but basically he was able to draw the 990s from Friends of Zion, show the Adins,
and show the connection to Andrew. He's also done some additional information on Andrew's family, some of their background. So, it's it's an exciting read. I am going to do more on Andrew.
I'm going to do some on Johnny Moore. Um,
but I knew nothing about Mark Bernett other than he produced some reality shows because that's how everybody sort of sort of pushes him off.
But the career arc, man, cannot be denied. Cannot be denied. You don't go special operator and then on your way to
do what is apparently very obvious intelligence operations in Central America take a hard 90 degree turn and end up as a housekeeper and a nanny.
Special operators don't nanny. They don't keep house. These are too valuable of people.
They're too highly trained.
They're way too highly trained. All right, hit the like button. If you've not, um, if you like what you saw, I don't want to compel you to hit the like button on something you didn't like, but if you did like it, if you found yourself edified tonight, go ahead and,
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Daily Wire COLLAPSES! Ben Shapiro Wants REVENGE. | Candace Ep 332
Candace Owens
May 4, 2026

People dox my home address, accuse me of hiding money from the macrons, accuse me of fleeing the country, accuse my husband of a hit and run, Trump posts a photo of me sick, and then my lawsuit from Brian Harpole arrives from the same lawyer who has been suing me non-stop in arbitration on Ben Shapiro's behalf. Well... looks like The Daily Wire is on the brink of collapse and Benny boy wanted an all out assault on my life over it.



Transcript

Chapter 1: Start.
All right, you guys. Happy Monday. Happy Monday indeed. I do not know how we didn't guess it. We should have guessed it. The attacks against me last week.
Personal attacks on my family. People were doxing our home address. Thank you to those of you who reached out to us.
allowed us uh to respond to that um all across social media. Accusing me of hiding money from the Mcron, accusing me
of fleeing the country, accusing my husband of hiding a hit and run, having hit a man named Tracy Robinson. We all thought, "What the heck is going on?"
Like, literally, what is going on? The president posts a photo of me sick. I wasn't even speaking about him. I was over in Italy. All of this meant to
humiliate me. And then a lawsuit arrives from Brian Harpole. Uh but then we learn it's been sent from the same lawyer who
had already been suing me non-stop in arbitration on Ben Shapiro's behalf for two years for every minor infraction.
And what do you know? Thank you internet for putting this piece together because I always thought there was something wrong with this lawyer. He seemed too emotionally invested. Usually lawyers
are just kind of like it's our job and they're friendly to one another. That guy Matt Sllesson was something else.
And thank you to the internet, like I said, uh, for noting at the bottom of that lawsuit from Brian Harpole, it lists a Jacob William Roth, a partner of
the firm, who also happens to be Ben Shapiro's brother-in-law. Ah, it's all starting to make sense. We should have known, ladies and gentlemen, that the Daily Wire was on the brink of collapse,
and that Benny Boy wants an allout assault on my life over it because he blames me. Welcome back to Candace.
Chapter 2: Daily Wire's failures and Ben's revenge.
It was oddly demonic, unlike anything we've ever seen. The president of the
United States posting photos of my ugly mug. Why? Why? I think I look kind of cute actually in that photo. Thank you
very much, Mr. President. I would have smiled, ladies and gentlemen. If I had known that one day the prey was going to post it, I would have smiled a little
bit, maybe smirked in the photo like this under that bandana publicly. Everyone knows that also Laura
Loomer has been stalking me. But I've been telling you guys, my real stalker in life is Ben Shapiro. Okay? Since the
day that I was fired from the Daily Wire, he has not stopped trying to bankrupt my family. It is almost comical
at this point. We've learned to just laugh at it. It never goes away. We were laughing at the fact that he's just kind of allowed to pretend to be this normal
public figure, but he's low-key a deranged stalker. Like, he just sort of hides behind it, tries to dignify the
stalking through legal filings. It's like, oh no, it's fine that we sent an intern to follow her at her event after we followed her. That was after we fired
her. That was our right. It's fine if we keep just using legal abuse as a strategy. And I mean for every little
infraction like they were monitoring my likes back when you could see likes on X. I I was facing serious lawsuits over
you liked this tweet and it was a bit disparaging to us.
Stalker just just full-blown stalker vibes. It all made sense though. It all made sense when phone calls started
coming in, emails started coming in regarding the Daily Wire layoffs, uh, which began, I am told, on Thursday, actually continued through Friday.
There's some indication they may actually be continuing through today.
And it was an absolute bloodbath. Do not allow them to spin it. Okay, I'm talking entire departments, big people at the firm, lawyers at the firm, uh the chief
operating officer, the executive vice president, virtually the entire marketing department, the production team has now been reduced to a mere
skeleton crew. No one was safe. I not even Ben's team was safe, marked safe from it. Even a director on his team was
fired. It was brutal. Um I have counted approximately 54 people who lost their jobs from top to bottom. And that's just
in this wave because this has been going on as we all know for a while. The writing has been on the wall for a while. It has been very strange. The
worst kept secret in media um as they keep writing having people publish these articles that just defy reality. We we
were having private conversations like how long can they keep up this charade and keep pretending that this is not
happening when everyone can see the numbers. we can see how the public is responding. Uh it's very it's it's very
strange to just sort of live in a delusion. We knew that they had brought in private equity uh some time ago in the last two years. I used to work in
private equity in these particular types of situations. So I knew uh what the implications were of bringing in private
equity, especially if it's a distressed debt situation. The usual term as it was at the company that I worked at many
moons ago is two years. They'll they'll inject cash into your company. They'll float you for about two years as you attempt to turn things around. You fire
some people, you restructure a little bit, but you're kind of walking the plank, right? Maybe you fix it, but if you don't, they're going to they're
going to sell that company and they're going to own a huge chunk of that company that they sell. Now, I can't assert that that is definitively what the deal terms were for the Daily Wire.
Uh, but I can say that we're just about now over two years um just over two years removed from my firing and the
Daily Wire has obviously not turned the company around. In fact, I would say they've just kind of cranked up the crazy almost like they were trying to catalyze their own demise. And so, yes,
it was announced on Friday that the mass layoffs took place um for which they offered this excuse to Barrett Media. I
think Barrett Media was among the first to report the story. It reads, quote,
"Today, the Daily Wire made a difficult decision to restructure the organization, which included layoffs to a number of teams. We are deeply
grateful to those impacted. Their contributions were instrumental in building the Daily Wire into what it is today. The cuts were largely
concentrated at our Nashville production office. As the company has invested in new formats, locations, and production models, our footprint there has evolved.
Over the last year, we have added production staff in DC, the Northeast,
and Florida. This step allows us to focus our resources on an ambitious slate of new entertainment projects that are set to release this year.
Additionally, we will continue to invest our editorial team and investigative journalism where we have already added numerous new reporters across the country and established a DC bureau with a seat in the White House briefing room.
That's a lot of words. Um to really say nothing. Okay. It's it's not good. It's happening there. Everyone feels it. Uh people that are left certainly feel it.
Okay. Uh first they shuttered Bent Key Kids, which was uh obviously massive layoffs that were done. Then they quietly got rid of their sports
department. That was the Cran & Company show that they were running. Now they're firing over 50 people in the span of . and they're claiming it's just
restructuring. Um, people in DC also got fired. So, it's not because they're suddenly pivoting and building in DC.
So, as they attempt to spin this into something else, the broader question is what actually happened to the company?
How could it happen so quickly? More importantly, because make no mistake, this is like the equivalent of Enron,
right? It's a virtual overnight collapse. In 2023, they were arguably one of the most promising companies,
conservative media companies certainly in the game. They were at the top of the top of their game. Everyone was clamoring to work with them, to do projects with them. And now we fast forward to 2026 and generally speaking,
again, I'm speaking generally, everyone hates the Daily Wire, right? We just hate the Daily Wire. How is that possible? Well, there are multiple
assessments that are floating around right now. Of course, many people uh directly associated their demise with
the never ceasing war against me. Uh which began with my unnecessarily
glorious public firing supplemented by a a staggering claim that Christ is king is anti-semitic. People were going,
"Hey, that's God will not be mocked." It's a strong start to say Crisis King is problematic
and we've got the money to make that fetch Gretchen. Um, so yeah, that's the chatter. Is it does did it have to do with me? Take a listen.
Candace Owens cooked you, Ben. She made you look like well the little that you are. She straight up publicly humiliated you and you allowed her to
9 minuteslet you destroy the entire media organization that you built. And a lot of people, which is also interesting,
are stating that Candace Owens is, you know, Candace Owens was successful in leaving the Daily Wire, getting fired from the Daily Wire, and now she's, you
know, she's she has she's a massive independent commentator, uh, public figure, and this only happened, her success only happened after the Daily
Wire. She's probably feeling really good right now. I'm going to be honest. If I was Candace Owens, I'd be feeling pretty damn good right now. Jane, go Unchained,
dude. She's like Django.
She's like Django killing everybody in the big house and then blowing it up. Kind of what it was cuz she was there.
She worked there. She was one of their probably one of the top shows and then she just exploded the whole house on her way out. Kind of epic.
Can't lie. I'm going to glaze Can of Sins a little bit. I don't agree with everything that she's up to, but you know, if she brings down the Daily Wire, then she's a patriot.
So, people are crediting me, but do I actually deserve that credit? Have I been focusing my attention on the Daily Wire throughout this show? Well, taking
a look at a a more, I guess you could say, the business side of affairs, this account, this user, Akash Gupta, uh,
wrote this on X, and I thought it was worth reading. He wrote, "The Daily Wire is the case study of why personalitydriven media companies cannot
compound. A peak in late 2023. Shapiro's YouTube alone pulled 170 million monthly
views. Daily Wire Plus subscriptions, a Nashville studio operation, Bent Keys streaming, an e-commerce arm with razors and chocolates and cigars. The company
was running a billion-dollar conservative Disney bet. Then they made the studio bet bigger. Pen Dragon Cycle,
an Arththeran fantasy series of the kind that has bankrupted larger production houses. Uh Beni trying to compete with Disney for kids attention. Daily Wire
Plus chasing Netflix, running a newsroom, a film studio, a children's streaming platform, and a private label consumer goods business simultaneously
requires either limitless capital or extraordinary discipline. Some of it worked. Matt Walsh's Am I Racist was the top grossing documentary of 2024, but most of it didn't. In March of 2024,
they parted ways with Candace Owens. She walked into the open market and built a show that competes with theirs. Today,
she has 5.5 million YouTube subscribers and added 10.9 million followers across platforms since January of 2025,
generating roughly 805 million views in that window. Daily Wire converted its biggest distribution asset into its largest competitor. Early 2025,
co-founder Jeremy Boring stepped down as co-CEO and launched a solo podcast outside of the company that he co-founded. Bent Key was shuttered the same year. Entire team cut. Then the
audience math hit Shapiro himself. 170 million monthly YouTube views in late 2023 to roughly 22 million in early 2026. An 85% collapse in 18 months.
Another 60,000 subscribers gone in the last 90 days alone. Layoffedge.com estimates cumulative workforce reduction
above 60% over the past year. Tucker Carlson left Fox in 2023. He kept his audience. He runs his shop with a
fraction of the headcount. Meghan Kelly's network drew 138 million YouTube views in February alone. The personalities figured out that they don't need the platform, but the
platform discovered the opposite. Daily Wire built a billion dollar valuation on names that can walk, take their audience with them, and run a competing show from
a laptop the next morning. 170 million views down to 222 million. The company kept the overhead, but the audience left
with the people. I thought that was very a very fair assessment and uh looking at
you know the commentary u regarding me plus reading his business look at it I actually think it's a combination of both of those assessments right because
what Akos is missing he brings up Tucker Cross and Min Kelly yes they are indeed uh more successful than they were when they were on cable news they are
successful in their own right but their exits did not destroy Fox News as crucial. Their exits, despite the
fact that they are doing better, did not destroy Fox News. This means that Daily Wire is unique. They are unique. They are set apart from those examples. I left Prageru. I left Turning Point USA.
Neither one of those companies were destroyed by my exit. In fact, we were all friends when I left. I went on to work with Turning Point all the way through until this year, actually,
contractually. And uh same with Prageru.
We we would still do things together. I was still close uh with Marissa, very close with Marissa. So, what makes those companies what what is it that makes
those companies different, right? I think what makes them different is that they didn't stalk their departed talent.
They just let them go and they never mentioned them again, right? Tucker Carlson did not then face two years of arbitration and fights and gag orders
with Fox News being chased for every penny. They didn't try to stop his next move. Uh they weren't navigating and having hit pieces written about them.
They truly wanted to just turn the page.
Meaning they're a real business. They are a real business. They want to keep it corporate. Goodbye. Okay. Public didn't like how they dealt with it. I
didn't like how they dealt with it. But actually, in retrospect, it was clean,
right? Um, now compare that to the Daily Wire. Think about the positively erratic and dare I say deranged decisions that
the company made just over the last few months, last six months, right? They brought back my social channels to mock
me. Okay, I This is unbeliev It's beyond psychopathic to do something like this.
Two years after you fire someone, uh they also attempted, in case you forgot,
they attempted to create an entire show dedicated to making fun of this show.
Remember in the No, in the No, where you had that girl that was like standing on the couch like a Nickelodeon
girl like making fun of me and it was weird and it was cringe and also beyond the realm of being stalked by a
former employer. Strange. You don't keep someone's socials and go, "Haha, I own your name and likeness and I can do this." You have to pause and really consider how unusual that was. Now, uh,
that was a mere months removed from the end of their last legal legal action against me, too. So, that there's never been a stop in my life of the Daily Wire chasing me. If this was an ex-boyfriend,
everyone would say that I was in need of a restraining order. Like I said, they wear the mask of this is all court. We just really want to go after her because of that like she liked that. It was disparaging.
So you cannot discount the fact that Ben Shapiro who is considered and this is sad for the other people um on the
platform. He is considered the face of the company and he developed tunnel vision. He bet the company on destroying
me. I didn't want to fight with them. I wanted to peace out. I wish Andrew Claven never made the Crisis King video.
You would have never heard from me. We can never speak about each other ever again. But they they were plotting. They they wanted to be destructive. I mean,
just take a listen to him and the many battles that he is fighting.
Nobody knows why. The people that he should be uniting with and being friends with that he's taking stabs with stabs
at. Take a listen to him over just these last few months.
So, here's the thing. The vaugh is a low IQ conspiracist. He has himself routinely propped up Candace Owens, has lent credence to her insanity. Pioon is
basically just a Bernie Sanders leftist who does not like the sensorious impulses of the left and engages in all the same conspiracy theories and of
course is good friends with Candace Owens and all the rest of it. And yes,
Erica Kirk absolutely should sue the living hell out of Candace Owens for this sort of stuff.
Well, Michael, I'll just ask you straight up. Is Candace Owens doing something evil by attacking Erica Kirk?
I I think that it's wrong to attack Erica Kirk.
Well, no. Say say the sentence with her name in it.
I'm not I'm I'm not going to dance like a puppet for the podcast. I think that what can is doing right now is evil. It is evil what she is doing right now.
Okay. And I say that again.
But what what I I didn't know pine on whether it's evil or not. But my my position is it's really none of my business. And why is it but I have a question. Why is
it none of your business? I mean you you you comment on these things for a living. I'm not mother of the internet.
No. But but if this were on the left and somebody were accusing Charlie Kirk of of his wife having murdered him, I assume that you would be talking about it.
Is that what Candace is accusing Erica of? Yes, of course, the issue here is not just that Megan Kelly has some questionable principles and has been programming directly into the groper,
right? It is that she remains a coward.
Remember, this is still the woman who says she is friends with Candace Owens.
So, no, Tucker Carlson, it is not an excuse to go silent on Candace's targeting of TPUSA or to mirror her
s lines of questioning because you love Candace personally. The same holds true of Megan Kelly.
I mean that this it's it's just not normal,
right? It's just not normal to go after Theo. Everybody loves Theo. He's just a person that everybody loves, but he just goes, "Thobon is friends with Kenneth Owens and I therefore hate him and I
want to destroy him." And every person has to want to destroy her and join this team. Uh you can't have those sorts of people in the boardroom. Your company
will eventually destroy itself. Now, if the employees found out on Friday that the company could no longer afford to
sustain them, then we can reasonably assume that Ben, who's a part owner of the company, knew months ahead. And so,
what you're looking at there is that with his dying corporate breath, what he wanted was to come after me. Me. That is
not to say that people turned away from him because uh people don't like political beef, right? It's not like there's tons of political beef. I have
19 minutespolitical beef with people. People actually have proven they have a high appetite uh for back and forth drama.
Left versus right. Well, you know, women versus men, whatever it is, whatever the prevailing narrative is of the day. Uh
nobody minded uh when Trump would attack Marco Rubio or Ronda Santis. I've had personal and legal spats with people like Kim Clay as just one example.
People do expect figureheads to clash.
What they don't expect and what people have proven that they have no appetite for is perity, right? Treachery, deceit,
betrayal against your own. Ben trying to destroy me, trying to destroy Megan Kelly, that means trying to destroy a
former colleague and someone like Megan Kelly who he said was his friend. That is perfidious. There's no other way to
say that. Ben seeking to publicly humiliate Michael Nolles, say her name.
There is something about that that makes the public naturally recoil, right?
Because it demonstrates that you have no honor. You have no dignity. You have no loyalty. They can forgive you demanding
COVID shots, right? Get the vaccine dopes. They can forgive you once leading the never Trump movement, but they
cannot forgive you treating people that are supposed to be close to you in that manner. Right? To use a biblical analogy, Peter thrice denied Jesus.
But Peter was not Judas. We are naturally as human human beings averse to the spirit of Judas. And that is what Ben Shapiro demonstrates, right? That he
will break bread with people as he plots against them. That is a moral offense to which we cannot rally behind. People do not like his nature.
You can spend years uh trying to destroy someone behind the scenes like Ben did
to Charlie Kirk and then boop, just flip on the dime as soon as he dies, slither into his studio and and throw a million dollars trying to purchase his legacy.
It is spiritually repulsive. That is what the public cannot bear about the Daily Wire.
You would think, by the way, that that Ben's attacks against me would now be all done. But on his Friday show, when most were expecting him to deliver maybe an impassioned an impassioned message,
um, one laced with humility regarding the layoffs, perhaps thanking the many people who moved their entire families
to Nashville to support his company and now find themselves without a job. You think that that oh hey I want to let you guys know of this personally from me
like this is what's going on we thank people so much no of course he does not have the courage to do that right calls Megan Kelly a coward what did Megan what
did what did Ben do instead of addressing his employees instead he made his show about me
signaling that he wants his tribe to now begin targeting my money of course um and he wants the public to know that
they shouldn't listen to my show because when they listen to my show they make money. Take a listen.
Honestly, if you are an audience member of Candace who who try who who faments this sort of evil because she makes money off of you. The way she makes
money is by spewing trash into the public sphere sphere and then she and then she makes money off it through advertising.
Now that that's how she does it. So if she's monetizing your gullibility, then you are complicit in this nonsense.
He makes me so nervous. Like the way his head shakes when he's like that at the end there. Like he's just he's in a psychosis. There's no other way to say it. Does he really believe that my
audience is so stupid that they don't know that like when they're hitting my YouTube page that we monetize the page and we have advertisements? That that's his breaking
story there. And does he recognize at all the irony of him making that claim as he does the very same thing? So So
what is he upset about? He's upset that our show is doing well despite his very best efforts behind the scenes to prevent that from ever happening. Um,
and right on Q, his supporters then began demanding a boycott of our show advertisers over the weekend and it
began trending. So, take a look at this where they listed all of our sponsors.
It says list of companies that sponsor Candace Owens's podcast. Do all these companies condone the behavior of Candace berating and demonizing a widow,
Erica Kirk? If you haven't already, I suggest boycotting these companies until they withdraw their sponsorships. I'm also calling on all of these companies to withdraw their sponsorships of
Candace Owen's podcast. I don't believe her views align with their company values. Do you believe uh do you condone Candace's views or her anti-Jewish
rhetoric? And they started uh posting all of our sponsors. Some of these are actually not our sponsors. They probably just were like, "Oh man, we ended up on here." Um, okay. He wants my money.
Similarly, they began targeting this morning our merch uh store. Actually,
some again something that began over the weekend. Here is a tweet that followed this. Candace Owens wears shirts with her name and her face on them. She
drinks from a cup with her name and face on it. She works in a computer with stickers of her face on it. What would you call this? We'd call it branding in
marketing, actually. Uh, and Laura Loomer, of course, followed this up with calls about what we were doing with our merch because this is the new call. Get
rid of Candace's merch. If you have that tweet, um, she asked people to support her, aka donate to her legal fund, by buying her ugly merch. She doesn't need
money. Why doesn't she sell one of her luxury SUVs? Why are people who are less fortunate than you are for money when you're wearing designer driving $1
million worth of cars? It's so beyond untrue. It's crazy. living in two homes.
Also untrue. That's crazy. Uh why does why doesn't she support herself? I do support myself. Thank you. And so this is just what you see. This is this is
their focus. It's been forever since I left Wire bankrupt Candace Owens. And so when you look at the the full picture of
Ben and what collapses company, it wasn't me. I wasn't at war with Ben. I wasn't trying to destroy Ben. I didn't tell people to boycott Ben or boycott
the Daily Wire. To the contrary, I feel really bad for the employees who lost their jobs in that way. And behind the scenes, I'm trying to help some of them
get new jobs because they moved their lives and their families here.
But regarding Ben, that that is just the spirit of a man who wants money as revenge for his own actions. No one told Ben to launch a war on Christ as king.
In fact, I strongly advised against it.
All right. God will not be mocked. Money seems to be everything to Ben. explains why after working behind the scenes to
encourage and in front of the scenes as you saw to encourage Erica Kirk to sue me, he likely landed upon Brian Harpole,
right? Because I do not find this to be a coincidence. On the last page of the lawsuit um against me, his
brother-in-law is listed, Jacob Jacob William Roth. Who knew? I did not know he was a part of this firm. I think he has been married to Ben's sister since
2018. Are we to believe that this is just a happy coincidence? Ben is so destructive like right here,
but put this mark my words right here.
He is so destructive and he has such tunnel vision that this path of hatred that he has now been embarked on uh
embarked on for three years is going to now destroy the lives the lives of those who are agreeing to partake in this game
with him. Right? He is going to infect them with this similarly unnecessary obsession with me and they will
inevitably find that their own lives are destroyed.
it will lead to their own similar exposure and their demise because that's how cancer works. Okay, the world is now
awake. The Daily Wire with Ben at the helm represents the side of people that are trying to sort of put us back to sleep and it is a losing battle. It is
not going to work. So my best advice to them, which they of course will not follow, they you can always count on Daily Wire to do the wrong thing. My
best advice would be for them to shutter and sell the tech stack. Okay. You cannot rehabilitate hatred. You cannot
rehabilitate the way you are viewed on the world stage. Uh you cannot rehabilitate Ben's anger in his tunnel vision. He people see the Daily Wire and
they see Ben and they don't want to support that. They don't want to support someone who tells them that they're evil and stupid and wrong for listening and
supporting Theo Vaughn while he unflinchingly hosts Ben Shap uh BBnet and Yahoo on his platform while he
cheers on a genocide. That's his main issue. His main issue is Israel. That's what he turns on everybody over uh our support for Israel. Well, support for Israel is down all across the country.
And it does this mean that you every Zionist has their empire collapsing? No,
absolutely not. Fox News is still a thing, right? Fox News is still pulling in viewers. Uh but it's the manner in
which he goes about it. It it's too disturbing. People don't want to look on. They don't want to root it on. If I'm the private equity, I'm selling the
computers. I'm selling everything that they have there that can be sold. Um and I'm just saying the company's got to go.
That's that's my personal opinion. I'm allowed to it.


Chapter 3: Were the attacks on me coordinated?
All right, look guys, the the little pony could only go on for so long,
right? I mean, it was just watching something and it was painful. I mean,
the buying of the views, everybody in YouTube world knew Ben Ben is buying he's buying views and that's just what's happening. I know how he's doing it cuz
I know the person who used to do it um at the Daily Wire and through advertising and you wonder how you I was actually asking the question like to my
husband like how is that is that not like an advertising Ponzi scheme of sorts? Like how do you buy views and then sell to advertisers on the basis of your views? And my husband said, "Well,
maybe they could potentially be putting something in the contract that allows them to sort of get around that tricky clause like, oh, we may sometimes advertise or whatever." But this was
this was just watching um it was they were just on the plank for for a very long time sort of walking the plank. Uh anyway, I
did find something was brewing last week. We could all feel it like I said and Baron Coleman received a very
interesting comment on his show because we're going to talk a little bit more about this lawyer Matt Slson who tweeted out this lawsuit with Brian Harpole. were very familiar, like I told you,
with uh Matt Sllesson,
just objectively a a lawyer that takes things like was making this so personal and we couldn't figure out why it was so
personal and now I think we do have an understanding. Uh but take a listen to Baron Coleman. Read this comment on his show.
I'm from CLT. A friend of my husband got a call from Larry L trying to pay him to go to CLT airport to take pictures of Candace in the airport. at the same time the news of the lawsuit dropped. Really?
Why is she in the Charlotte airport tonight?
So, I think Baron didn't understand what that commenter was saying. So, what the commenter was saying is of remarkable interest. Um, what they're saying is
that they knew someone who Larry Loomer was trying to send to the Charlotte
airport when I received news of a lawsuit. The reason why Baron is confused is because I didn't publicize that I had received an email from Matt
Slson while I was in the Charlotte airport. That's a very precise thing. It signals that Laura Loomer knew before we had announced the public more than a
week cuz they had first sent this like I don't know demand thing at first and said we are following this lawsuit in 4 days. But I was standing in a Charlotte airport when I received that email. So,
how is it possible, and again, I'll say allegedly, how is it possible that Laura Loomer was trying to get somebody go
take photos of me reading that email that I received that nobody could have known I was going to receive outside of Matt Sllesson's firm. That signals that
there's some coordination between Matt Sarlson, Ben Shapiro's lawyer, um, and Laura Loomer. And then, by golly, you guys, when he tweeted out this lawsuit,
could you imagine my surprise? We went onto his wall and we saw that before he acknowledged the lawsuit, he had been heavily retweeting Laura Loomer and her attacks against my family, Laura Loomer,
uh, asserting that my immigrant husband,
my husband is not an immigrant, thank you. He was an immigrant, uh, was involved in this DUI. He's retweeting Laura Loomer. That's very interesting.
There seems to be a connection here. And not only that, but Jacob William Roth,
Ben Shapiro's um brother-in-law similarly uh was retweeting the the lawsuit. So this this
is very interesting. By golly, some people thought, is this are they are they coordinating? Are they using Laura Loomer? Because how do these people know
each other again? Why is this Matt Slson so invested in my life? Uh well, Laura
Luber when she thought I was going to have a bad week last week tweeted this. Damn, Candace. Oh, is having a bad week.
Almost like she got ambushed. Couldn't have happened to a more wretched Oh, I think there there could be some
coordination going on. And we'll be able to tell you more about that because we're finding out a lot of information right now. And I got to get in my early predictions here because I've rarely
Chapter 4: Harmeet Dhillon, FARA, and Israel's $4.1million geofencing PR campaign.
been wrong on this stuff. Like I insinuated,
cancerous goals like this inevitably infect everyone. and this absurd lawsuit from Brian Harpole and the internet recognizing looking up now and paying
attention that there are these bizarre connections between everyone. This is going to shine a negative light of
attention on Har Dylan because this is her law firm, right? Dylan Law Group is Har Dylan's law firm. She currently works for the Department of Justice. uh
she left her firm obviously to go fill this position and I I think uh transferred the stake in her in the
company to her brother. While she's currently serving in the Department of Justice, uh she's serving as the assistant attorney general for the civil
rights division. She's also the front runner to replace Pam Bondi for attorney general of the United States. That's a big position. People are wondering Trump signaling you lawsuits, lawsuits, Erica,
sue, sue, sue. What's going on here?
Why? Why does this all feel a little bit incestuous, right? Pam Bondi, just to be clear, had become to the American people
virtually synonymous with corruption for Israel, right? Regarding the Epstein files, we've hated her since she gassled
us about the files. She lied to us about the files, the binder of the files. What is your priority, Pam Bondi? Who are you protecting? Why does it feel like it's
the nation state of Israel? Um, and while I can just to be clear, Harmy Dylan's firm has never been accused or
charged with any corruption related to Israel, but her law firm is heavily involved in a lot of legal um issues on
behalf of Israel. Right. For example, uh there was a recent company that made waves, which we hadn't covered on this show, which registered rightfully under
Farra, big deal. Israel never wants to do that. Rest in peace JFK. uh called Show Faith by Works. Okay, so Show Faith
by Works LLC. If you are not familiar with that company, I'm going to tell you what they are all about. Uh just eight days after Charlie Kirk was
assassinated, Show Faith by Works began their contracting registration under Farra. Uh the principle of the company,
to be clear, is Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Their stated purpose is to target Christians in the United
States with anti-Palestinian and pro-Israel messaging. How? With geo fencing. Okay? Meaning you go to a
public event, you go to church, and they are actually going to put an invisible fence around your phone, which then
allows them to hand over your information to allow people to freely target your phone with searching and
37 minutesmessaging. Here's a Times of Israel article about that. This this uh was published in October and it says Israel
to spend up to $4.1 million on a Christian PR campaign in the West. It says the foreign ministry has hired another American firm to run influence
operations in the United States with plans to spend as much as 4.1 million on a marketing campaign aimed at Christians across the western part of the country
to newly filed according to newly filed federal disclosures. The documents filed last week under the FAR act reveal that
show faith by works LLC will execute what it builds as the quote largest Christian church geo fencing campaign in
US history. A newly formed company with a San Diego address show faith by works is run by Chad Schnitker a prominent
Christian conservative activist in California. The initiative is designed to reach churchgoers with digital ads that are explicitly quote pro-Israel and
anti-Palestinian end quote while dispatching a mobile quote October 7th
experience to church parking lots. That sounds terrifying.
[laughter]
We don't want a mobile October 7th exp.
What are you are you going to kill people? What are you saying? What are you saying? I kid. I kid. I hope I don't want it. I don't want it. Anyways,
they're going to do this. It continues.
There's gonna be an exhibit to Church Park. We don't need to exhibit this.
We're actually good. Thank you. Also, to Christian colleges, it says, uh oh,
beware Christian college. The October 7th experience is coming to a parking lot near you. Okay, sorry. You can scroll back up. I'm going to keep
reading that. The initiative is designed uh to reach the campaign adds a new prong pardon to Israel's US communication blitz complementing a $
1.5 million per a month contract for AIdriven social media activity with former Trump campaign strategist Brad
Parkcal and a contract with a firm called Bridge Partners to create an influencer network called the Esler Project. The PR blitz was anticipated
after the foreign ministry was allocated $150 million in this year's budget for public relations efforts. I you got to
love it, right? We have to give our tax dollars to Israel so that Israel can spend money to influence. I don't know.
It just feels feels wrong. It feels wrong. Anyway, you should know that Dylan Law Group filed uh on behalf of
this company. So uh they are on the far paperwork. They're representing them.
So, Faith by Works Show Faith by Works LLC uh was initially contracted by Havas Media on September 8th and then came
Charlie's public funeral described by some people his wife as the
event of the century. What do you know that after this Andrew Kovette announced on the news that at this event of the
century they successfully had geoenced and geo tagged everyone who went there to mourn Charlie. So really it was like
hats, merch, and some cell phone data apparently. Take a listen.
I'm going to break a little bit of news on your program, Jesse. our partners that do sort of geotagging with devices.
They told us that they tracked over 277,000 devices in the vicinity of State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. 277,000.
I just can't believe you thought that was good PR to go up there and just say that. I mean, could I also just say that if I die, you can just miss me with this
kind of a funeral. I'm good. No thank you. I'm good. a really good uh the birch the hats at the geo feds funeral.
Thank you very much. Now I should be clear that we don't know for sure if Andrew Kovvette who happened to actually be sitting with Harme Dylan at the
recent White House correspondent center shooting. We don't know if Andrew Kovette he didn't name who he was working with. He didn't name who his
partners were. Um so we don't know if it was show faith by works. The timing of this is definitely interesting and we
should actually maybe try to find out right in their uh farad docs they specifically note that they are going to
be doing that geo fencing and targeting in Tucson, Phoenix in Las Vegas. So that is right in the turning point hub.
There's a lot of smoke here. I'd be willing to bet there's some fire. And maybe if you were one of the lucky ones who got to attend this event of the
century, you might be able to work to find out by contacting Turning Point and saying, "Actually, who was your partners that were geoencing us? Maybe it's on a ticket stub." I would imagine they would
have had to disclose it. I'm not sure entirely. Uh, but it would be know who their partners are. I didn't know Turning Point was doing this. I I actually thought they were like a 501c3
charity that was not engaged in this at all. So, I do want to do give a special shout out to Twitter user Gen XGirl
because she has done a fantastic job influencing that. You can see that uh she says she's a honeybadger that exposes corruption, wars, and foreign
influence. And I do think that kind of looking at the piece of what this firm is um is going to be important. Again, I
personally have nothing against Hammy Dylan. I do think that there are some interesting ties that bind when it comes
to her particular firm and since she is in uh contest to become the next attorney general following Pam Bondi.
Yeah, we we we should understand what's actually going on here. And that's not even the half of half of it, by the way,
in terms of their involvement with some very pro-Israel initiatives. Uh anyway,
uh we will be right back after a brief break.

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A major win today for truth as the Blake Lively lawsuit is settled, Israel is ups their spending on American propaganda to almost a billion dollars this year, and it is amazing how many ties there are to Israel and Charlie following his assassination. Nothing to see though guys, because Bibi already said that Israel didn’t do it—remember?

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