Mrs. Kay Griggs on How the Government Works
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:53 am
Part 1 of 4 (Tape No. 1)
Interview with Kay Griggs
by Pastor Strawcutter
Full Transcript
1996
[Transcribed from the video by Tara Carreon]
Tape No. 1 of 4
[Pastor Strawcutter] Let’s talk a little bit about you. Where did you start out your life? You were born and raised in the country?
[Kay Griggs] Yeah, I was raised on a farm; in fact, I live in the same neighborhood in which I grew up. It was my grandfather’s farm, part of it: it was divided into thirds, but in 1939 my grandfather was an obstetrician in Norfolk. He was also in the Naval Reserves. He was in charge of military intelligence in Norfolk which is the largest military naval complex in the world. So I was born in the naval hospital, which is the NATO headquarters, and brought home to my grandparents’ farm.
My father was in the south China seas on a naval vessel. My uncle was in the navy. So I come from a long line of military-civilian folks. They were not fulltime military individuals: they had jobs, and they would go into the war, and would be in Reserves, and as my grandfather was, he stayed in and retired a navy captain.
But I live in a house that was in part of my grandfather’s field. But I’m being strangled financially by this army intelligence group, JAG group, Judge Advocate General, that my husband [is involved with]. I think that American citizens do not realize how many JAGs are in our court system, and they take orders. They are in the chain of command, they are active reserve, and they are in our court system everywhere you look: local and everywhere. And they are going to meetings once a month. And if there is a case like many of the military intelligence wives, like myself, and we have information that would come out in a divorce hearing, or whatever, they totally control it. Judge John Moore in my case, in Virginia Beach, is an army ranger. He is active reserve; he’s a VMI army colonel; he’s a graduate of VMI. In Virginia Beach, in the courts, there are at least six judges -- and I’m including commissioners in that -- because in Virginia we have a system where the commissioners do a lot of the decisions. And all of these in Virginia Beach who take care of military wives are military judges.
VMI is Virginia Military Institute, and it’s where General Marshall, of the Marshall Plan, went to school. It’s a little West Point. There’s a lot of tradition there, but it’s based on the Greek sort of Spartan military concept. And my father went to Washington & Lee, which is also in Lexington. And I know that there is some sort of – I won’t say “cult,” but there probably is some sort of secret society – and so it’s a very, very tight clique.
But what I was trying to say is that the judges are military men, and they are not independent. They take orders; there’s a chain of command; and in my particular case, and the other 11 military wives whom I have met so far – there are many, many more – but they’ve all been “handled” the same way. That’s not a normal divorce at all.
[Pastor Strawcutter] I’ve heard of these situations before, but it’s never been put so concisely and so reasonably that there would be a connection why some people – no matter what attorney you have, it doesn’t matter. The divorces and the settlement of assets never go the right way.
[Kay Griggs] No! And there’s a FISA court which I know is involved in my case: Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. It’s the Justice Department’s secret court that American citizens are not aware of. There have been a couple of articles on it. It’s a small group of men, and I think there’s a woman on it, and I believe there are seven justices. And in reality the article that I read, which was given to me by Mike Fuller, and I know he would not mind me using his name, he’s a government assassin. He was, like my husband, a government assassin – killing people. He’s a government mercenary. He was in Afghanistan and Rhodesia, South Africa. And I met him and his wife through Sarah McClendon. He’s a real wonderful patriot who is speaking out about what the NATO community, and the army and marine corps, are doing.
Sarah saved my life, literally. I had been having break-ins starting the night of March 4th after I was calling everywhere to see if I could find my husband. He would disappear at times. And I found my husband’s diary, which I have here, which they have been not anxious to have get out.
[Pastor Strawcutter] “They” meaning?
[Kay Griggs] Well, “they”: General [John J.] Sheehan, General [Charles C.] Krulak, Marine Corps Generals Al Gray, Cook, and especially General Joy. General Jim Joy and General Carl Stiner are evil men. And they are in this diary meeting with my husband almost every day in Beirut. They trained the Men in Black who killed those people in Waco. It was General Joy and General Stiner, Stiner’s army, dirty tricks, special operations. And this is what my husband does for a living, is train mercenaries: young boys from countries like Romania, Dominican Republic, Haiti – all of these countries – they are training them to be murderers. And the taxpayers’ dollars are paying for this. They psychologically profile them. The profile, which is similar to my husband’s and Lee Harvey Oswald’s and McVeigh’s, and some of the others who were all part of this program, Jeffrey Dahmer, was profiled and hidden. What most Americans do not know was that all of these men –
[Pastor Strawcutter] So Dahmer has a military background?
[Kay Griggs] Of course! They are all army. They were all picked out because they are perverted or twisted: sexually perverted. Well, I don’t think McVeigh was perverted the way Dahmer was, but certainly the group that my husband is overseeing are twisted: strong mother, weak father or no father, poor. Because these guys are looking for security, so they will stay in the military and do anything for that security. This was my husband’s scenario.
My husband and Oswald are just two peas in a pod. Exactly the same personality, the same type. And in the same elite group, I might add, which was doing work with Communist Russians, Czechoslovakians, and with Romanians. I met assassins; I met drug lords, Fahim Qortabawi, whose family were the drug lords in the Beqaa Valley. I mean, he knows the elite of the elite of the elite. And that’s why I was warned twice not to talk. I was told that I would be killed.
My husband warned me early on but he loved me in the beginning. I’m sure he really did. But he’s a robot, my husband. Except when he’s drinking. And I think that’s why he drank, because the first three years of marriage he was telling me everything. And I come from a very strong Protestant southern culture, which when you’re talking about shooting people like ducks, the only thing I can relate it to is my brothers going duck hunting. And that’s what George would tell me it was like. Killing is just like nothing. There’s no emotion involved. You just get rid of somebody. And he said he was an existentialist, and that these murders were necessary, you know very matter of fact. And I’d sort of go, “Uh huh, yep”, and we’d be eating dinner.
And I was trying to get him to know Christ, to sort of understand a little bit about my background, and America’s background. But his group they are not Christians. They are what he calls “existentialists,” and they study German Clausewitz and Nietzsche, Sartre, Camus, Montesquieu. And his thesis at Princeton, which was written for him by a very good friend of his named Todavey [sp?], who was a French Count, and his thesis was on this. And supposedly it was in French, but my French is better than his, so he could not have written that by himself. I know that. I know it was written for him. But in the intelligence world, and in the communist world, in the world that my husband was in, one had to know French, because all the terrorist trainers, and the guys who were funding all the guerillas and everything, were in Paris and New Orleans. They would go back and forth.
Still, the 4th Marines is out of New Orleans. And that’s been going on a long time, ever since Disraeli, and even before, I think. But they had hit squads and undercover groups in New Orleans. And George would go to New Orleans – all of the marines – this is where they do terrorist training, at Lake Ponchartrain and places like that. I think New Orleans has been a place where debauchery and murder and cults flourished.
[Pastor Strawcutter] There’s a New Orleans connection with the JFK assassination.
[Kay Griggs] Well you see Oswald, my husband and Oswald were in the same club. General Jim Joy [Brigadier General James R. Joy] is in that club. General Louis Buehl [Louis H. Buehl III], who is my husband’s “benefactor”, or whatever you want to call it, is in that club. There are Russians in that club.
I want to tell you about General Al Gray. And my husband was the chief of staff for General Al Gray, who was the Commandant of the Marine Corps. And I probably shouldn’t say this on the tape, and you all can get rid of it, but he’s a homosexual. He’s what they call a “cherry marine.” Now I’m not anti[homosexual], but the Vietnam War – you see, there are guys and there are girls, and I came from just such a real prudish culture, and I’m not judging them. But the Vietnam War, I know a lot about the MACSOG program, and the Phoenix Program, because George was involved with a very important part of that. Not important, really, but he and Al Gray and Louis Buehl and Michael O’Boyle and Ollie Whipple [Oliver M. Whipple, Jr. (MCSN: 0-76023)]– do you remember the Mayaguez and the Pueblo – the seizure of that little ship – it was run by the mob then. It was a mob-military partnership: JOINT. It was a joint operation in Korea and in Vietnam. The highest levels of the Marine Corps and the Army in those special operations levels, the individuals are actually in the Mob. I’m talking about the Brooklyn-New Jersey mob. My husband, Al Gray, [General John J.] Sheehan, Cap Weinberger, and Heinz Kissinger, there’s the Boston Mob for shipping weapons back and forth to Northern Ireland, and I don’t want to get too deeply involved in that but it goes back to Israel, and some of the Zionists who came over from Germany, according to my husband. See, he works with those people. They do a lot of money laundering in the banks, cash transactions for the drugs that they are bringing over through Latin America, by the Southern Mafia, the Dixie Mafia, which now my husband is involved with in Miami. The military are all involved. Once they retire, they go into this drug and secondary weapons sales.
And before I forget I want to find the name of this Russian who worked with Al Gray, who was my husband’s boss -- I can’t find it right now.
Vietnam was really important, because a lot of experiments were done on boys who went over there.
Since my husband disappeared, they have been psychologically trying to destroy me, financially trying to destroy me, because I’m telling the truth. His first wife, I know, was murdered. She was, according to a psychiatrist, whose name I probably won’t give because he’s an honorable man, I was given permission before I went public with Sarah McClendon at the Press Club, anonymously, but they knew who I was on the 3rd of July, 1996, when I came out with a small group of people. But before that time, they were trying to “handle” me, trying to get me to be quiet. They tried threatening me and so forth. And I forgot what point I was trying to make, something important.
And I called General Jim Joy [Brigadier General James R. Joy], and I was trying to find where my husband was, because I didn’t know if I’d have any money to eat. He just walked away. And I knew that the Marine Corps knew where he was. But I was being handled psychologically.
On the 4th of March, 1996, my home was broken into. They had elaborate plans to “handle” me. And keep in mind, he had disappeared on the 28th of December, 1995. So put yourself in my shoes: I have no idea where he is. He’s done this before, and each time I was totally traumatized.
[Pastor Strawcutter] What happened during this break-in?
[Kay Griggs] Well, they were looking for the diary which I have here. I don’t have the original copy, but this is his Beirut diary. And it’s in his handwriting. The Beirut diary tells how the intelligence community, the army and marine corps assassins, snipers, how they operate in a city during a crisis. My husband was the liaison between the White House and President Gemayel. So my husband is a friend of [General Brent] Scowcroft. [Robert] McFarlane’s a marine. All these men are personal friends of George’s. [William] Colby I spoke with personally on the phone. Two weeks later he was murdered. He went to Princeton. My husband knew him, and he knew my husband.
[Pastor Strawcutter] This is General Colby:
[Kay Griggs] William Colby, who was head of the CIA, who was murdered. I know exactly how that happened because the SEAL teams, SEAL team 6, 4 and 8, are on the East Coast, and the odd numbers are on the West Coast. And some of the people who are affiliated with the SEALs – the Israelis train with the SEALs. They do a lot of wet ops, murders over here because of some sort of arrangement.
I met three young assassins on a bus. Going back and forth to Sarah’s, I went on the bus, because they were sabotaging my car so often. So I sat next to two young assassins, one from Romania and one from Haiti. And I let them know that I understand how it is. And this little boy cried. I won’t mention which one it was, because it may get back to him. But he told me it was the same scenario. His mother, he lives on $850/ month.
Now these are mercenaries. The taxpayers are paying mercenaries. The taxpayers are paying young men who are not citizens of the United States to kill innocent people: women and children. They get on a flight from Norfolk and Oceania, they fly to Stuttgart, and I was told this is what they do. Then they go by a special helicopter to countries like Turkey, Iraq, Algeria, Africa, and they do wet ops. They’ll just murder 5 or 10, 20 people. And then they blame it on the Arabs. Or they blame it on somebody else. But it’s actually NATO rogue assassins. Because there are men from Australia, South Africa, and Britain that I’ve been able to determine, and a lot of these other little countries that are wanting to get into NATO who have little boys that they pick out.
And they call them “Special.” They use the word “Special,” meaning “elite, irregular” in order to entice these boys, because they don’t have much ego. In other words, they are protected. They know that they are above the law. My husband is above the law. Judge John Moore is above the law. Colonel Barry Kantor, my husband’s JAG colonel lawyer, is above the law. Grover [C.] Wright, Marine Corps. A lot of these guys who are judges had their wives gotten rid of. Judge John Moore had his first wife thrown into a mental institution before he became a judge. He battered her.
And I spoke with a man who has a purple heart, two people, who knew Hannah very well. And Hannah Moore was deeply in love with her husband. When he got back from Vietnam -- he was an army ranger -- he battered her. He physically and psychologically abused her. And she started screaming. I was battered and bruised. A lot of wives are by these Vietnam vets. But if they are a colonel, or they are a rising star, the wife has got to be crazy, because they’ve got too much invested in these men.
And it’s a very small cult. I have heard the things they do when they are colonels. It’s some of the same things that they do in Cap and Gown, which is the Princeton version of Skull & Bones. My husband went to Princeton after he went to the Hun School for four years.
Interview with Kay Griggs
by Pastor Strawcutter
Full Transcript
1996
[Transcribed from the video by Tara Carreon]
Tape No. 1 of 4
[Pastor Strawcutter] Let’s talk a little bit about you. Where did you start out your life? You were born and raised in the country?
[Kay Griggs] Yeah, I was raised on a farm; in fact, I live in the same neighborhood in which I grew up. It was my grandfather’s farm, part of it: it was divided into thirds, but in 1939 my grandfather was an obstetrician in Norfolk. He was also in the Naval Reserves. He was in charge of military intelligence in Norfolk which is the largest military naval complex in the world. So I was born in the naval hospital, which is the NATO headquarters, and brought home to my grandparents’ farm.
My father was in the south China seas on a naval vessel. My uncle was in the navy. So I come from a long line of military-civilian folks. They were not fulltime military individuals: they had jobs, and they would go into the war, and would be in Reserves, and as my grandfather was, he stayed in and retired a navy captain.
But I live in a house that was in part of my grandfather’s field. But I’m being strangled financially by this army intelligence group, JAG group, Judge Advocate General, that my husband [is involved with]. I think that American citizens do not realize how many JAGs are in our court system, and they take orders. They are in the chain of command, they are active reserve, and they are in our court system everywhere you look: local and everywhere. And they are going to meetings once a month. And if there is a case like many of the military intelligence wives, like myself, and we have information that would come out in a divorce hearing, or whatever, they totally control it. Judge John Moore in my case, in Virginia Beach, is an army ranger. He is active reserve; he’s a VMI army colonel; he’s a graduate of VMI. In Virginia Beach, in the courts, there are at least six judges -- and I’m including commissioners in that -- because in Virginia we have a system where the commissioners do a lot of the decisions. And all of these in Virginia Beach who take care of military wives are military judges.
VMI is Virginia Military Institute, and it’s where General Marshall, of the Marshall Plan, went to school. It’s a little West Point. There’s a lot of tradition there, but it’s based on the Greek sort of Spartan military concept. And my father went to Washington & Lee, which is also in Lexington. And I know that there is some sort of – I won’t say “cult,” but there probably is some sort of secret society – and so it’s a very, very tight clique.
But what I was trying to say is that the judges are military men, and they are not independent. They take orders; there’s a chain of command; and in my particular case, and the other 11 military wives whom I have met so far – there are many, many more – but they’ve all been “handled” the same way. That’s not a normal divorce at all.
[Pastor Strawcutter] I’ve heard of these situations before, but it’s never been put so concisely and so reasonably that there would be a connection why some people – no matter what attorney you have, it doesn’t matter. The divorces and the settlement of assets never go the right way.
[Kay Griggs] No! And there’s a FISA court which I know is involved in my case: Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. It’s the Justice Department’s secret court that American citizens are not aware of. There have been a couple of articles on it. It’s a small group of men, and I think there’s a woman on it, and I believe there are seven justices. And in reality the article that I read, which was given to me by Mike Fuller, and I know he would not mind me using his name, he’s a government assassin. He was, like my husband, a government assassin – killing people. He’s a government mercenary. He was in Afghanistan and Rhodesia, South Africa. And I met him and his wife through Sarah McClendon. He’s a real wonderful patriot who is speaking out about what the NATO community, and the army and marine corps, are doing.
Sarah saved my life, literally. I had been having break-ins starting the night of March 4th after I was calling everywhere to see if I could find my husband. He would disappear at times. And I found my husband’s diary, which I have here, which they have been not anxious to have get out.
[Pastor Strawcutter] “They” meaning?
[Kay Griggs] Well, “they”: General [John J.] Sheehan, General [Charles C.] Krulak, Marine Corps Generals Al Gray, Cook, and especially General Joy. General Jim Joy and General Carl Stiner are evil men. And they are in this diary meeting with my husband almost every day in Beirut. They trained the Men in Black who killed those people in Waco. It was General Joy and General Stiner, Stiner’s army, dirty tricks, special operations. And this is what my husband does for a living, is train mercenaries: young boys from countries like Romania, Dominican Republic, Haiti – all of these countries – they are training them to be murderers. And the taxpayers’ dollars are paying for this. They psychologically profile them. The profile, which is similar to my husband’s and Lee Harvey Oswald’s and McVeigh’s, and some of the others who were all part of this program, Jeffrey Dahmer, was profiled and hidden. What most Americans do not know was that all of these men –
[Pastor Strawcutter] So Dahmer has a military background?
[Kay Griggs] Of course! They are all army. They were all picked out because they are perverted or twisted: sexually perverted. Well, I don’t think McVeigh was perverted the way Dahmer was, but certainly the group that my husband is overseeing are twisted: strong mother, weak father or no father, poor. Because these guys are looking for security, so they will stay in the military and do anything for that security. This was my husband’s scenario.
My husband and Oswald are just two peas in a pod. Exactly the same personality, the same type. And in the same elite group, I might add, which was doing work with Communist Russians, Czechoslovakians, and with Romanians. I met assassins; I met drug lords, Fahim Qortabawi, whose family were the drug lords in the Beqaa Valley. I mean, he knows the elite of the elite of the elite. And that’s why I was warned twice not to talk. I was told that I would be killed.
My husband warned me early on but he loved me in the beginning. I’m sure he really did. But he’s a robot, my husband. Except when he’s drinking. And I think that’s why he drank, because the first three years of marriage he was telling me everything. And I come from a very strong Protestant southern culture, which when you’re talking about shooting people like ducks, the only thing I can relate it to is my brothers going duck hunting. And that’s what George would tell me it was like. Killing is just like nothing. There’s no emotion involved. You just get rid of somebody. And he said he was an existentialist, and that these murders were necessary, you know very matter of fact. And I’d sort of go, “Uh huh, yep”, and we’d be eating dinner.
And I was trying to get him to know Christ, to sort of understand a little bit about my background, and America’s background. But his group they are not Christians. They are what he calls “existentialists,” and they study German Clausewitz and Nietzsche, Sartre, Camus, Montesquieu. And his thesis at Princeton, which was written for him by a very good friend of his named Todavey [sp?], who was a French Count, and his thesis was on this. And supposedly it was in French, but my French is better than his, so he could not have written that by himself. I know that. I know it was written for him. But in the intelligence world, and in the communist world, in the world that my husband was in, one had to know French, because all the terrorist trainers, and the guys who were funding all the guerillas and everything, were in Paris and New Orleans. They would go back and forth.
Still, the 4th Marines is out of New Orleans. And that’s been going on a long time, ever since Disraeli, and even before, I think. But they had hit squads and undercover groups in New Orleans. And George would go to New Orleans – all of the marines – this is where they do terrorist training, at Lake Ponchartrain and places like that. I think New Orleans has been a place where debauchery and murder and cults flourished.
[Pastor Strawcutter] There’s a New Orleans connection with the JFK assassination.
[Kay Griggs] Well you see Oswald, my husband and Oswald were in the same club. General Jim Joy [Brigadier General James R. Joy] is in that club. General Louis Buehl [Louis H. Buehl III], who is my husband’s “benefactor”, or whatever you want to call it, is in that club. There are Russians in that club.
I want to tell you about General Al Gray. And my husband was the chief of staff for General Al Gray, who was the Commandant of the Marine Corps. And I probably shouldn’t say this on the tape, and you all can get rid of it, but he’s a homosexual. He’s what they call a “cherry marine.” Now I’m not anti[homosexual], but the Vietnam War – you see, there are guys and there are girls, and I came from just such a real prudish culture, and I’m not judging them. But the Vietnam War, I know a lot about the MACSOG program, and the Phoenix Program, because George was involved with a very important part of that. Not important, really, but he and Al Gray and Louis Buehl and Michael O’Boyle and Ollie Whipple [Oliver M. Whipple, Jr. (MCSN: 0-76023)]– do you remember the Mayaguez and the Pueblo – the seizure of that little ship – it was run by the mob then. It was a mob-military partnership: JOINT. It was a joint operation in Korea and in Vietnam. The highest levels of the Marine Corps and the Army in those special operations levels, the individuals are actually in the Mob. I’m talking about the Brooklyn-New Jersey mob. My husband, Al Gray, [General John J.] Sheehan, Cap Weinberger, and Heinz Kissinger, there’s the Boston Mob for shipping weapons back and forth to Northern Ireland, and I don’t want to get too deeply involved in that but it goes back to Israel, and some of the Zionists who came over from Germany, according to my husband. See, he works with those people. They do a lot of money laundering in the banks, cash transactions for the drugs that they are bringing over through Latin America, by the Southern Mafia, the Dixie Mafia, which now my husband is involved with in Miami. The military are all involved. Once they retire, they go into this drug and secondary weapons sales.
And before I forget I want to find the name of this Russian who worked with Al Gray, who was my husband’s boss -- I can’t find it right now.
Vietnam was really important, because a lot of experiments were done on boys who went over there.
Since my husband disappeared, they have been psychologically trying to destroy me, financially trying to destroy me, because I’m telling the truth. His first wife, I know, was murdered. She was, according to a psychiatrist, whose name I probably won’t give because he’s an honorable man, I was given permission before I went public with Sarah McClendon at the Press Club, anonymously, but they knew who I was on the 3rd of July, 1996, when I came out with a small group of people. But before that time, they were trying to “handle” me, trying to get me to be quiet. They tried threatening me and so forth. And I forgot what point I was trying to make, something important.
And I called General Jim Joy [Brigadier General James R. Joy], and I was trying to find where my husband was, because I didn’t know if I’d have any money to eat. He just walked away. And I knew that the Marine Corps knew where he was. But I was being handled psychologically.
On the 4th of March, 1996, my home was broken into. They had elaborate plans to “handle” me. And keep in mind, he had disappeared on the 28th of December, 1995. So put yourself in my shoes: I have no idea where he is. He’s done this before, and each time I was totally traumatized.
[Pastor Strawcutter] What happened during this break-in?
[Kay Griggs] Well, they were looking for the diary which I have here. I don’t have the original copy, but this is his Beirut diary. And it’s in his handwriting. The Beirut diary tells how the intelligence community, the army and marine corps assassins, snipers, how they operate in a city during a crisis. My husband was the liaison between the White House and President Gemayel. So my husband is a friend of [General Brent] Scowcroft. [Robert] McFarlane’s a marine. All these men are personal friends of George’s. [William] Colby I spoke with personally on the phone. Two weeks later he was murdered. He went to Princeton. My husband knew him, and he knew my husband.
[Pastor Strawcutter] This is General Colby:
[Kay Griggs] William Colby, who was head of the CIA, who was murdered. I know exactly how that happened because the SEAL teams, SEAL team 6, 4 and 8, are on the East Coast, and the odd numbers are on the West Coast. And some of the people who are affiliated with the SEALs – the Israelis train with the SEALs. They do a lot of wet ops, murders over here because of some sort of arrangement.
I met three young assassins on a bus. Going back and forth to Sarah’s, I went on the bus, because they were sabotaging my car so often. So I sat next to two young assassins, one from Romania and one from Haiti. And I let them know that I understand how it is. And this little boy cried. I won’t mention which one it was, because it may get back to him. But he told me it was the same scenario. His mother, he lives on $850/ month.
Now these are mercenaries. The taxpayers are paying mercenaries. The taxpayers are paying young men who are not citizens of the United States to kill innocent people: women and children. They get on a flight from Norfolk and Oceania, they fly to Stuttgart, and I was told this is what they do. Then they go by a special helicopter to countries like Turkey, Iraq, Algeria, Africa, and they do wet ops. They’ll just murder 5 or 10, 20 people. And then they blame it on the Arabs. Or they blame it on somebody else. But it’s actually NATO rogue assassins. Because there are men from Australia, South Africa, and Britain that I’ve been able to determine, and a lot of these other little countries that are wanting to get into NATO who have little boys that they pick out.
And they call them “Special.” They use the word “Special,” meaning “elite, irregular” in order to entice these boys, because they don’t have much ego. In other words, they are protected. They know that they are above the law. My husband is above the law. Judge John Moore is above the law. Colonel Barry Kantor, my husband’s JAG colonel lawyer, is above the law. Grover [C.] Wright, Marine Corps. A lot of these guys who are judges had their wives gotten rid of. Judge John Moore had his first wife thrown into a mental institution before he became a judge. He battered her.
And I spoke with a man who has a purple heart, two people, who knew Hannah very well. And Hannah Moore was deeply in love with her husband. When he got back from Vietnam -- he was an army ranger -- he battered her. He physically and psychologically abused her. And she started screaming. I was battered and bruised. A lot of wives are by these Vietnam vets. But if they are a colonel, or they are a rising star, the wife has got to be crazy, because they’ve got too much invested in these men.
And it’s a very small cult. I have heard the things they do when they are colonels. It’s some of the same things that they do in Cap and Gown, which is the Princeton version of Skull & Bones. My husband went to Princeton after he went to the Hun School for four years.