Re: Trump lashes out at Gov. Doug Ducey following certificat
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:25 am
How should prosecutors+courts respond to Trump's promise of a "bloodbath" if he loses the election?
by Glenn Kirschner
Mar 17, 2024
Donald Trump is on pretrial release in four felony cases. Donald Trump used inflammatory rhetoric to inspire and incite an attack on the US Capitol on January 6 to try to retain power. Now, Trump has ratcheted up his violent rhetoric, promising a "bloodbath" if he is not reelected.
In the criminal justice system, the law provides that if someone on pretrial release poses a danger to even a single person in the community, they should be revoked on release and detained pending trial.
Will prosecutors, the courts and the institutions of government receive Trump's latest violent rhetoric - signaling to his supporters that he expects them to respond with violence if he loses - with a shrug? Or will they protect the American people by applying the law as it is intended to be applied and detain him pending trial?
Transcript
well friends Donald Trump is now on
record as promising a
bloodbath if he's not
reelected how should the criminal
justice system
respond let's talk about that because
Justice
matters
hey all Glenn kersner here so friends
can we talk about Donald Trump's recent
bloodbath
comments and the
implications of a defendant who is on
pre-trial release in four felony
cases promising that the country will
experience a blood bath if he doesn't
get what he
wants start with the new reporting this
from Rolling Stone headline Trump says
there will be a blood bath and elections
will end if he isn't
reelected and that article begins Donald
Trump appeared at a rally hosted by
Super PAC Buckeye values in Dayton Ohio
on Saturday supporting Bernie Marino the
Senate candidate vying for the GOP
Primary who Trump endorsed
of course it would not be a trump rally
without him spouting off about the
election he lost being rigged and
talking in near apocalyptic terms should
he not be reelected this year quote now
if I don't get elected it's going to be
a bloodbath for the whole that's going
to be the least of it it's going to be a
bloodbath for the country that'll be the
least of it close quote he warned later
he went as far as ominously implying
that voting as we know it won't exist if
he loses quote I don't think you're
going to have another election in this
country if we don't win this election
close quote Trump said now friends let
me Circle back to the bloodbath comment
because Trump tried to walk it back
later saying he was really talking about
what would happen to the Auto industry
if he wasn't elected but
his words belly that indeed they
contradict that BS walk back after he
kind of yammered and slurred his way
through something about the Auto
industry he then pivoted and let's go to
his words again he said if I don't get
elected it's going to be a bloodbath for
the whole that's going to be the least
of it it's going to be a bloodbath for
the country that'll be the least of it
so when he was talking about the blood
bath for the country that would result
if he wasn't elected when he said
that'll be the least of it he was
setting aside his yammering about the
Auto industry he pivoted he's like uh
the auto stuff that'll be the least of
it if I'm Not Elected there will be a
blood
bath what was he doing there
friends remember proud boys stand
by right now it's it will be a blood
bath there will be a blood bath for the
country do you all hear me am I sending
the signal clearly enough do what I say
there will be a blood bath this is no
different than come to DC on January 6th
will be
wild if you don't fight like hell you
won't have a country anymore stand by
there will be a blood
bath you hear my command
magga this from a man who is on
pre-trial release in four felony cases
two Federal and two
State you know what the law provides
friends you probably do if you've
watched any of my Justice matter matters
videos over the past 6 months or a year
the law provides that if somebody is in
a pre-trial status in a felony case and
that person poses a risk to the
community or even one person in the
community that person is to be detained
pending trial that person should be
revoked on release and should sit his
big orange butt in a jail cell pending
trial to neutralize the threat he is a
threat to everyone in the United States
of America he is a threat to democracy
he launched an attack on January 6th
against our democracy and it turned out
to be a deadly attack and he launched it
with far less inflammatory language than
he just used at the rally on
Saturday there will be a bloodbath in
this country country do you understand
me that's what he just said he's
actually ratcheted up the recklessness
and the violence of his
rhetoric and he's on pre-trial release
in four felony
cases will the criminal justice system
RIT large just receive this
latest deadly threat with a
yawn or will they apply the law as it
was intended to be applied if somebody
poses a danger to the community to even
one person in the
community they are to be detained
pending trial can you imagine friends if
somebody was on pre-trial release in
let's say a homicide case and while on
pre-trial release that person said if I
don't get what I want there's going to
be a blood
bath do you know how quickly that person
would be revoked on pre-trial released
release and put in pre-trial
detention as the law
provides the law needs to be prodded
into
wakefulness you know on the danger
presented by Donald Trump I don't care
if he's a former president I don't care
if he's a candidate he shouldn't be
allowed to endanger our nation and her
people and our democracy
with this kind of violence violence
inducing rhetoric more Reckless than his
rhetoric on January 6th this is
institutional
insanity if the institutions of
government just receive this with a
shrug I mean do what the law
provides revoke Donald Trump on release
detain him pending trial and for God's
sakes let our country begin to move
forward
again because
Justice
matters friends as always please stay
safe please stay tuned and I look
forward to talking with you all again
[Music]
tomorrow
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David Corn slams Trump's claim of a ‘bloodbath’ if he loses presidential election
by MSNBC
Mar 17, 2024 #Trump #Politics #2024Election
In a campaign speech, Donald Trump says there will be a ‘bloodbath’ if he loses. David Corn joins The Weekend to react to the former President’s comments.
[b]Transcript[/b[
>>> THIS MORNING WE ARE
REMINDED ONCE AGAIN OF WHO
DONALD TRUMP REALLY IS, AT A
RALLY IN OHIO, THE FORMER
PRESIDENT SAID SOME MIGRANTS
ARE NOT PEOPLE.
HE CAST DOWN ON THE FUTURE OF
AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IF HE LOSES
IN NOVEMBER.
>> IF THIS ELECTION ISN'T WON,
I'M NOT SURE YOU WILL EVER HAVE
ANOTHER ELECTION IN THIS
COUNTRY, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
I DON'T THINK YOU WILL HAVE
ANOTHER ELECTION IN THIS
COUNTRY IN OR CERTAINLY NOT A
ELECTION THAT IS MEANINGFUL.
>> HE CONTINUED TO WHITEWASH
JANUARY 6th, HE STOOD FOR A
RECORDING OF THE NATIONAL
ANTHEM PERFORMED BY 1/6
DEFENDANT FROM JAIL.
HE CALLED THEM QUOTE HOSTAGES.
JOINING US IS DAVID CORN,
YOU'VE ALSO A POLITICAL
ANALYST.
>> DAVID WHAT DID YOU THINK
ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S BLOODBATH
COMMENTS.
AND I MUST NOTE, LOOK, DONALD
TRUMP, CAMPAIGN, THEY SAID HE
WAS TALKING ABOUT AN ECONOMIC
LIKE BACK I DON'T KNOW IF I BUY
THAT BUT THAT IS IN FACT WHAT
THE CAMPAIGN SAID.
>> TRUMP HAS ALWAYS DONE THIS.
WE'VE BEEN WATCHING THE SHOW
FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS NOW AND
I'VE SEEN IT EVEN LONGER IF
YOU'VE COVERED HIM FOR YEARS,
HE USES THESE HIGH IMPACT WORDS
THAT HAVE EITHER THE DIRECT OR
IMPLICIT TONE OF VIOLENCE.
JANUARY 6th, COME DOWN, IT'S
GOING TO BE WILD, GO TO THE
CAPITAL AND FIGHT LIKE .
>> IT IS ACTUALLY USED EXPLICIT
VIOLENT LANGUAGE AND TELLING
HIS OWN PEOPLE AT RALLIES TO
BEAT THE YOU KNOW WHAT OUT OF
PROTESTERS AT THESE RALLIES.
AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME,
TRYING TO PARSE A WORD LIKE
BLOODBATH IS ABSURD.
IN THE SAME SPEECH HE CALLS
HUNDREDS WHO BEAT UP COPS,
UNBELIEVABLE PATRIOTS.
WHEN HE SAYS THE WORD
BLOODBATH, HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S
DOING, WHETHER HE MEETS AN
ECONOMIC BLOODBATH OR SOMETHING
ELSE IN THE SAME SPEECH, HE IS
ENDORSING POLITICAL VIOLENCE
AND WHEN HE SAYS HE'LL NEVER
HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION IF I
DON'T WIN, WELL, THAT, TOO, HAS
A TONE OF VIOLENCE TO IT AS
WELL.
THE ONLY WAY TO TAKE POWER
WOULD BE TO USE POWER IF
THERE'S NO ELECTION.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I
WANT TO PLAY THAT SOUND FROM
THE SPEECH ON SATURDAY, IN
DAYTON.
IF WE COULD.
>> WE ARE GOING TO PUT A 100%
TARIFF ON EVERY SINGLE CAR THAT
COMES ACROSS THE LINE AND HE
WON'T BE ABLE TO SELL THOSE.
IF I GET ELECTED, AND NOW IF I
DON'T GET ELECTED IT'S GOING TO
BE A BLOODBATH, THAT WILL BE
THE LEAST OF IT.
IT'LL BE A BLOODBATH FOR THE
COUNTRY.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SELL
THOSE CARS.
>> MY TAKE AWAY FROM THAT IS
DONALD TRUMP IS A GROWN MAN.
HE'S A GROWN MAN, AND LAST TIME
I, YOU KNOW, SAW AND HEARD HIM
SPEAK, HE COULD SPEAK THE
ENGLISH LANGUAGE WITH SOME
DEGREE OF CONCLUSION DOES MY
CONFUSION.
THOSE WERE HIS WORDS OUT OF HIS
MOUTH.
YOU HAVE THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION COME BACK WITH A
STATEMENT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY
SAYING, THIS IS WHO DONALD
TRUMP IS, A LOSER WHO GETS BEAT
BY OVER 7 MILLION VOTES AND
INSTEAD OF APPEALING TO A WIDER
MAINSTREAM AUDIENCE DOUBLES
DOWN ON HIS THREATS OF
POLITICAL VIOLENCE.
I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT TONE.
I THINK THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN HAS
PUT THEIR FINGER ON THE RIGHT
PART OF THIS.
IS THAT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO NOW,
TO YOUR POINT, DAVID?
WE KNOW HE HAS A WAY OF USING
THESE WORDS TO SORT OF,
INSIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF
RESPONSE FROM HIS AUDIENCE BUT
THERE IS MEANING BEHIND THE
WORDS BECAUSE USE THE WORDS
THAT YOU MEAN, RIGHT?
>> HE USES APOCALYPTIC
LANGUAGE.
HE SAYS JOE BIDEN IS A RADICAL,
WORKING WITH COMMUNISTS AND
ANTIFA TO DESTROY THE SUBURBS.
THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT HE SAID
OVER AND OVER, SO HE'S SAYING,
THEY ARE COMING AT US WITH
VIOLENCE, WE HAVE TO MEET THEM
WITH VIOLENCE, OF COURSE, HIS
ANALYSIS IS ABSURD, JOE BIDEN,
HAND-IN-HAND WITH ANTIFA AND
COMMUNIST, BUT IT HAS A RACIAL
COMPONENT BECAUSE HE'S TALKING
ABOUT WHITE SUBURBS, IT'S FEAR
MONGERING.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT VIOLENCE,
YOU ARE BASICALLY APPEALING TO
PEOPLE'S FEAR, YOU ARE TRYING
TO GET THEM TO SEE THE OTHER
SIDE AS PEOPLE WHO CAN ONLY BE
DEALT WITH, WITH VIOLENCE.
SO I KEEP COMING BACK TO THIS,
IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE KIND OF
STUCK IN GROUNDHOG DAY.
WE HAVE THE SAME DISCUSSION AND
DEBATE ABOUT TRUMP, HIS USE OF
LANGUAGE, VIOLENCE, FOR THE
LAST EIGHT YEARS.
YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE TELLS
YOU WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM.
AND TO ME THE SCARY THING IS NOT
THAT HE'S DOING THIS, HE'S BEEN
DOING THIS FOR EIGHT YEARS AND
IT STILL APPEALING TO TENS OF
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS, AND
THAT'S A DEEPER QUESTION WE
NEED TO THINK ABOUT AND A
DEEPER CHALLENGE FOR THE BIDEN
CAMPAIGN AND THE DEMOCRATS TO
CONTEND WITH.
>> AND I WOULD ARGUE, DAVID,
FOR THE COUNTRY.
THERE WAS ALSO AN ADDITION TO
THE VIOLENT RHETORIC THERE WAS
THE DEHUMANIZATION OF MIGRANTS.
SAYING SOME MIGRANTS ARE NOT
PEOPLE.
I THINK WE HEARD ENOUGH DONALD
TRUMP SOUND FOR TODAY BUT I
WON'T PLAY ANYMORE BUT HE DID
BRAG ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE WAS
HAVE THE LARGEST DOMESTIC
DEPORTATION OPERATION IN
AMERICAN HISTORY.
I THOUGHT IT WAS NOTABLE THAT
HE TRIED TO ARGUE THAT THE
CRISIS WE ARE SEEING AT OUR
SOUTHERN BORDER HAS AFFECTED
HISPANIC AND AFRICAN AMERICAN
COMMUNITIES MORE THAN ANY
OTHERS, THAT SEEMS TO ME LIKE A
VERY STRATEGIC CHOICE.
WE SAT AT THIS TABLE MANY TIMES
TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN, THEY KNOW THEY
DON'T HAVE TO WIN LATINO VOTERS
OR WHEN BLACK VOTERS BUT THEY
JUST HAVE TO SIPHON OFF ENOUGH
MARGINS FROM DEMOCRATS TO
CREATE A BUFFER IN THE SWING
STATES.
IT'S ALARMING BOTH BECAUSE
WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
DONALD TRUMP USES THIS RACIST,
XENA PHOBIC RHETORIC BUT IT'S
ALSO DANGEROUS TO ME, SYMONE,
THAT HE IS SLIPPING AND, IN THE
MIDDLE, A CALL TO LATINOS AND
AFRICAN AMERICANS TO USE
IMMIGRATION AS A WEDGE.
>> HE'S PROBABLY BANKING ON
THAT WE ARE STUPID.
THAT BLACK AND LATINO VOTERS
ARE NOT PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION
AND THEY CAN BE SCARED WITH HIS
XENA PHOBIC AND I WOULD ARGUE,
QUITE FRANKLY RACIST RHETORIC,
INTO PITTING THEMSELVES AGAINST
ONE ANOTHER, IN THE SAME BREATH
HE SAYS THESE THINGS, HE WILL
ALSO, YOU KNOW, GO ON TO SAY,
AND REMIND US AND SAY OH, I WAS
VERY GOOD TO THE BLACK
COMMUNITY, BLACK PEOPLE LOVE
ME, REMEMBER HE SAID THAT BLACK
PEOPLE REALLY IDENTIFIED WITH
HIM BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, FROM HIS
PERSPECTIVE IS AFTER HIM, AND
BLACK PEOPLE IDENTIFY WITH
THAT?
I THINK AGAIN, PEOPLE HAVE TO
LOOK AT NOT THE POLLS, BUT WHAT
IS HAPPENING IN COMMUNITIES.
AND THERE IS SOME SKEPTICISM
AMONG BLACK AND LATINO VOTERS
IN VARIOUS SWING STATES ACROSS
THE COUNTRY BUT I THINK PEOPLE
HAVE TO SLOW THEIR ROLE BEFORE
THEY EQUATE THAT WITH FOLKS
VOTING FOR DONALD TRUMP.
AS THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN
SAYING ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, I
HEARD A SPEECH OF HERS AND SHE
SAID THAT DEMOCRATS ARE
FIGHTING THE COUCH.
I THINK THAT IS ACTUALLY THE
MORE CONCERNING THING THESE
DEMOCRATIC CAMPAIGNS, NOT THAT
LARGE SWATHS OF PEOPLE WILL
VOTE FOR TRUMP BUT THAT THEY
COULD STAY HOME.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
I MEAN THAT'S THE BIG ISSUE
FROM THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN,
REMINDING PEOPLE AGAIN AND
AGAIN AND AGAIN, OF THE DANGERS
THAT DONALD TRUMP POSES, THIS
IS A GUY WHOSE MISMANAGEMENT OF
THE PANDEMIC COST THE LIVES OF
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
AMERICANS.
THESE WERE PREVENTABLE DEATH
ACCORDING TO THE SURVEYS BUT
PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT THAT, TO
THE EXTENT THAT SEAN KENNEDY
CAN GO ON AND SAY SHE BETTER
FOUR YEARS AGO, WE ARE WORRIED,
WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE
OR THE COUNTRY WOULD BE AND
YET, SO PEOPLE ARE YOU KNOW,
THEY MAY NOT LOVE BIDEN OR BE
JAZZED BY HIM BUT MAYBE TO
REMEMBER WHAT THOSE TRUMP YEARS
WERE LIKE.
WHAT HE REPRESENTS.
AND HE DOES THIS FIREHOSE OF
OUTRAGE, SO AS SOON AS HE SAYS
SOMETHING OR DO SOMETHING
OUTRAGEOUS, HE DOES 20 OF IN
AND OUT ALL CLOSE TOGETHER,
THEY TURN IT OFF AND IT'S TRUMP
BEING TRUMP AND THE NEW YORK
TIMES EVEN SAID HE TRAFFICS IN
STEREOTYPES. ALL OF THESE
THINGS BLUR TOGETHER AND
POINTING IT OUT AND GETTING
PEOPLE ENERGIZED ABOUT HIM IS
ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES
THAT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN FACES.
>> THAT GOES TO ONE OF THE
THINGS I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR A
LONG TIME.
WE HAD A CONVERSATION
YESTERDAY, WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT THE RECENT, YOU KNOW, THE
RECENT NOT THAT OF COURSE, THAT
THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM FINDS
ITSELF IN IN DEALING WITH HIS
CASES, HE FLOODS THE ZONE IN
SUCH A WAY THAT THE SYSTEM
DOESN'T KNOW, K, WHAT TO DO
WITH ALL OF THE INCOMING, BUT
THEN, HE GETS SORT OF, IN THE
SPACE WHERE, OKAY, HE'S A
FORMER PRESIDENT AND WE'VE
NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE AND IT'S
ALMOST A SENSE THAT HIS TEAM IS
BANKING ON THAT, OUR JUSTICE
SYSTEM, POLITICAL SYSTEM, IS
NOT BUILT TO DEAL WITH AN
ASYMMETRICAL PLAYER LIKE TRUMP,
WHO DOESN'T CARE.
HE'S GOING TO THROW IT OUT
THERE, HE'S GOING TO GO OUT AND
USE THE KIND OF LANGUAGE THAT
HE KNOWS, DELIBERATELY KNOWS
WILL OFFEND AND THAT HE'S LIKE
OKAY, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THIS
NUGGET HERE FOR YOU TO WORK
OUT.
I'M MOVING ON.
AND SO, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK
WE HAVE TO NOW FIND OURSELVES
COLLECTIVELY CLEANSING THIS OUT
OF OUR SYSTEM, AND NOT FOCUSING
SO MUCH ON EVERY LITTLE BIT BUT
STAYING FOCUSED ON THE BIGGER
QUESTION OF, THE MAN SAID HE
WANTS TO BE A DICTATOR, OKAY.
>> HE SAID HE WANTS TO BE A
DICTATOR, HE SAID THERE WON'T
BE ELECTIONS AGAIN, LAST NIGHT,
HE SAID IT WILL BE A BLOODBATH,
WHETHER RATHER ECONOMIC OR
REGULAR.
HE'S TELLING US.
I THINK MICHAEL'S POINT, I
THINK THE SYSTEM COULD HANDLE
TRUMP, IT HAS DECIDED IT'S
GOING TO TREAT HIM DIFFERENTLY
BUT MICHAEL'S OVERALL POINT, I
DON'T THINK WE SHOULD RUSH OVER
AT ALL AND MAYBE WE ALL NEED TO
TAKE A SIP AND THINK ABOUT IT
AS AMERICANS BUT WHY, WHY, WHY,
DO WE FIND IT OH, OKAY, WE HAVE
TO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT THING.
WE CANNOT, AFTER EIGHT, 10,
TREAT HIM LIKE A REGULAR
PERSON.
HE'S NOT REGULAR.
>> AND I JUST POINT OUT
SOMETHING TO YOU, MY WIFE
POINTED OUT TO ME THE OTHER
DAY, SHE SAID, I JUST WANT A
DAY WHEN I CAN GET UP AND NOT
HAVE TO THINK ABOUT TALK ABOUT
REACT TO, OR SEES DONALD TRUMP
ON MY NEWS IN MY PAPERS IN MY
MEDIA, FOLKS, WE HAVE BEEN
INUNDATED AND CONSUMED BY THIS
ONE MAN, FOR EIGHT YEARS.
YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT ANYONE IN
YOUR FAMILY THAT MUCH.
YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT YOUR
FRIENDS THAT MUCH.
ASK YOURSELVES, WHEN YOU HAVE A
CONVERSATION, HOW MANY TIMES
DOES SOMEONE RAISE HIS NAME OR
YOU BRING IT UP, THAT IS THE
PROBLEM WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY
RIGHT NOW.
WE NEED TO CLEANSE OURSELVES OF
THIS.
THE ELECTION IS THE WAY YOU DO
IT, IN MY VIEW.
I MEAN, HE'S TELLING US THAT
YOU KNOW, WHAT HIS WORLD IS
GOING TO LOOK LIKE, YOU EITHER
WANT MORE OF THAT, OR YOU
DON'T.
THIS IS FOR ME, A VERY
CLARIFYING MOMENT, BUT --
>> WE'VE HAD OTHER CLARIFYING
MOMENTS.
>> IT'S BEEN A CLARIFYING
COUPLE OF YEARS.
WE ARE AT THE INFLECTION POINT.
WE ARE RIGHT THERE, ELECTIONS
MATTER, TO BE CLEAR, WE NEED TO
SAY THIS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
HIM AND THE NEWS MEDIA IS
TALKING ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE IS
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND IF
PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION
by Glenn Kirschner
Mar 17, 2024
Donald Trump is on pretrial release in four felony cases. Donald Trump used inflammatory rhetoric to inspire and incite an attack on the US Capitol on January 6 to try to retain power. Now, Trump has ratcheted up his violent rhetoric, promising a "bloodbath" if he is not reelected.
In the criminal justice system, the law provides that if someone on pretrial release poses a danger to even a single person in the community, they should be revoked on release and detained pending trial.
Will prosecutors, the courts and the institutions of government receive Trump's latest violent rhetoric - signaling to his supporters that he expects them to respond with violence if he loses - with a shrug? Or will they protect the American people by applying the law as it is intended to be applied and detain him pending trial?
Transcript
well friends Donald Trump is now on
record as promising a
bloodbath if he's not
reelected how should the criminal
justice system
respond let's talk about that because
Justice
matters
hey all Glenn kersner here so friends
can we talk about Donald Trump's recent
bloodbath
comments and the
implications of a defendant who is on
pre-trial release in four felony
cases promising that the country will
experience a blood bath if he doesn't
get what he
wants start with the new reporting this
from Rolling Stone headline Trump says
there will be a blood bath and elections
will end if he isn't
reelected and that article begins Donald
Trump appeared at a rally hosted by
Super PAC Buckeye values in Dayton Ohio
on Saturday supporting Bernie Marino the
Senate candidate vying for the GOP
Primary who Trump endorsed
of course it would not be a trump rally
without him spouting off about the
election he lost being rigged and
talking in near apocalyptic terms should
he not be reelected this year quote now
if I don't get elected it's going to be
a bloodbath for the whole that's going
to be the least of it it's going to be a
bloodbath for the country that'll be the
least of it close quote he warned later
he went as far as ominously implying
that voting as we know it won't exist if
he loses quote I don't think you're
going to have another election in this
country if we don't win this election
close quote Trump said now friends let
me Circle back to the bloodbath comment
because Trump tried to walk it back
later saying he was really talking about
what would happen to the Auto industry
if he wasn't elected but
his words belly that indeed they
contradict that BS walk back after he
kind of yammered and slurred his way
through something about the Auto
industry he then pivoted and let's go to
his words again he said if I don't get
elected it's going to be a bloodbath for
the whole that's going to be the least
of it it's going to be a bloodbath for
the country that'll be the least of it
so when he was talking about the blood
bath for the country that would result
if he wasn't elected when he said
that'll be the least of it he was
setting aside his yammering about the
Auto industry he pivoted he's like uh
the auto stuff that'll be the least of
it if I'm Not Elected there will be a
blood
bath what was he doing there
friends remember proud boys stand
by right now it's it will be a blood
bath there will be a blood bath for the
country do you all hear me am I sending
the signal clearly enough do what I say
there will be a blood bath this is no
different than come to DC on January 6th
will be
wild if you don't fight like hell you
won't have a country anymore stand by
there will be a blood
bath you hear my command
magga this from a man who is on
pre-trial release in four felony cases
two Federal and two
State you know what the law provides
friends you probably do if you've
watched any of my Justice matter matters
videos over the past 6 months or a year
the law provides that if somebody is in
a pre-trial status in a felony case and
that person poses a risk to the
community or even one person in the
community that person is to be detained
pending trial that person should be
revoked on release and should sit his
big orange butt in a jail cell pending
trial to neutralize the threat he is a
threat to everyone in the United States
of America he is a threat to democracy
he launched an attack on January 6th
against our democracy and it turned out
to be a deadly attack and he launched it
with far less inflammatory language than
he just used at the rally on
Saturday there will be a bloodbath in
this country country do you understand
me that's what he just said he's
actually ratcheted up the recklessness
and the violence of his
rhetoric and he's on pre-trial release
in four felony
cases will the criminal justice system
RIT large just receive this
latest deadly threat with a
yawn or will they apply the law as it
was intended to be applied if somebody
poses a danger to the community to even
one person in the
community they are to be detained
pending trial can you imagine friends if
somebody was on pre-trial release in
let's say a homicide case and while on
pre-trial release that person said if I
don't get what I want there's going to
be a blood
bath do you know how quickly that person
would be revoked on pre-trial released
release and put in pre-trial
detention as the law
provides the law needs to be prodded
into
wakefulness you know on the danger
presented by Donald Trump I don't care
if he's a former president I don't care
if he's a candidate he shouldn't be
allowed to endanger our nation and her
people and our democracy
with this kind of violence violence
inducing rhetoric more Reckless than his
rhetoric on January 6th this is
institutional
insanity if the institutions of
government just receive this with a
shrug I mean do what the law
provides revoke Donald Trump on release
detain him pending trial and for God's
sakes let our country begin to move
forward
again because
Justice
matters friends as always please stay
safe please stay tuned and I look
forward to talking with you all again
[Music]
tomorrow
[Music]
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David Corn slams Trump's claim of a ‘bloodbath’ if he loses presidential election
by MSNBC
Mar 17, 2024 #Trump #Politics #2024Election
In a campaign speech, Donald Trump says there will be a ‘bloodbath’ if he loses. David Corn joins The Weekend to react to the former President’s comments.
[b]Transcript[/b[
>>> THIS MORNING WE ARE
REMINDED ONCE AGAIN OF WHO
DONALD TRUMP REALLY IS, AT A
RALLY IN OHIO, THE FORMER
PRESIDENT SAID SOME MIGRANTS
ARE NOT PEOPLE.
HE CAST DOWN ON THE FUTURE OF
AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IF HE LOSES
IN NOVEMBER.
>> IF THIS ELECTION ISN'T WON,
I'M NOT SURE YOU WILL EVER HAVE
ANOTHER ELECTION IN THIS
COUNTRY, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
I DON'T THINK YOU WILL HAVE
ANOTHER ELECTION IN THIS
COUNTRY IN OR CERTAINLY NOT A
ELECTION THAT IS MEANINGFUL.
>> HE CONTINUED TO WHITEWASH
JANUARY 6th, HE STOOD FOR A
RECORDING OF THE NATIONAL
ANTHEM PERFORMED BY 1/6
DEFENDANT FROM JAIL.
HE CALLED THEM QUOTE HOSTAGES.
JOINING US IS DAVID CORN,
YOU'VE ALSO A POLITICAL
ANALYST.
>> DAVID WHAT DID YOU THINK
ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S BLOODBATH
COMMENTS.
AND I MUST NOTE, LOOK, DONALD
TRUMP, CAMPAIGN, THEY SAID HE
WAS TALKING ABOUT AN ECONOMIC
LIKE BACK I DON'T KNOW IF I BUY
THAT BUT THAT IS IN FACT WHAT
THE CAMPAIGN SAID.
>> TRUMP HAS ALWAYS DONE THIS.
WE'VE BEEN WATCHING THE SHOW
FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS NOW AND
I'VE SEEN IT EVEN LONGER IF
YOU'VE COVERED HIM FOR YEARS,
HE USES THESE HIGH IMPACT WORDS
THAT HAVE EITHER THE DIRECT OR
IMPLICIT TONE OF VIOLENCE.
JANUARY 6th, COME DOWN, IT'S
GOING TO BE WILD, GO TO THE
CAPITAL AND FIGHT LIKE .
>> IT IS ACTUALLY USED EXPLICIT
VIOLENT LANGUAGE AND TELLING
HIS OWN PEOPLE AT RALLIES TO
BEAT THE YOU KNOW WHAT OUT OF
PROTESTERS AT THESE RALLIES.
AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME,
TRYING TO PARSE A WORD LIKE
BLOODBATH IS ABSURD.
IN THE SAME SPEECH HE CALLS
HUNDREDS WHO BEAT UP COPS,
UNBELIEVABLE PATRIOTS.
WHEN HE SAYS THE WORD
BLOODBATH, HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S
DOING, WHETHER HE MEETS AN
ECONOMIC BLOODBATH OR SOMETHING
ELSE IN THE SAME SPEECH, HE IS
ENDORSING POLITICAL VIOLENCE
AND WHEN HE SAYS HE'LL NEVER
HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION IF I
DON'T WIN, WELL, THAT, TOO, HAS
A TONE OF VIOLENCE TO IT AS
WELL.
THE ONLY WAY TO TAKE POWER
WOULD BE TO USE POWER IF
THERE'S NO ELECTION.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I
WANT TO PLAY THAT SOUND FROM
THE SPEECH ON SATURDAY, IN
DAYTON.
IF WE COULD.
>> WE ARE GOING TO PUT A 100%
TARIFF ON EVERY SINGLE CAR THAT
COMES ACROSS THE LINE AND HE
WON'T BE ABLE TO SELL THOSE.
IF I GET ELECTED, AND NOW IF I
DON'T GET ELECTED IT'S GOING TO
BE A BLOODBATH, THAT WILL BE
THE LEAST OF IT.
IT'LL BE A BLOODBATH FOR THE
COUNTRY.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SELL
THOSE CARS.
>> MY TAKE AWAY FROM THAT IS
DONALD TRUMP IS A GROWN MAN.
HE'S A GROWN MAN, AND LAST TIME
I, YOU KNOW, SAW AND HEARD HIM
SPEAK, HE COULD SPEAK THE
ENGLISH LANGUAGE WITH SOME
DEGREE OF CONCLUSION DOES MY
CONFUSION.
THOSE WERE HIS WORDS OUT OF HIS
MOUTH.
YOU HAVE THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION COME BACK WITH A
STATEMENT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY
SAYING, THIS IS WHO DONALD
TRUMP IS, A LOSER WHO GETS BEAT
BY OVER 7 MILLION VOTES AND
INSTEAD OF APPEALING TO A WIDER
MAINSTREAM AUDIENCE DOUBLES
DOWN ON HIS THREATS OF
POLITICAL VIOLENCE.
I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT TONE.
I THINK THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN HAS
PUT THEIR FINGER ON THE RIGHT
PART OF THIS.
IS THAT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO NOW,
TO YOUR POINT, DAVID?
WE KNOW HE HAS A WAY OF USING
THESE WORDS TO SORT OF,
INSIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF
RESPONSE FROM HIS AUDIENCE BUT
THERE IS MEANING BEHIND THE
WORDS BECAUSE USE THE WORDS
THAT YOU MEAN, RIGHT?
>> HE USES APOCALYPTIC
LANGUAGE.
HE SAYS JOE BIDEN IS A RADICAL,
WORKING WITH COMMUNISTS AND
ANTIFA TO DESTROY THE SUBURBS.
THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT HE SAID
OVER AND OVER, SO HE'S SAYING,
THEY ARE COMING AT US WITH
VIOLENCE, WE HAVE TO MEET THEM
WITH VIOLENCE, OF COURSE, HIS
ANALYSIS IS ABSURD, JOE BIDEN,
HAND-IN-HAND WITH ANTIFA AND
COMMUNIST, BUT IT HAS A RACIAL
COMPONENT BECAUSE HE'S TALKING
ABOUT WHITE SUBURBS, IT'S FEAR
MONGERING.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT VIOLENCE,
YOU ARE BASICALLY APPEALING TO
PEOPLE'S FEAR, YOU ARE TRYING
TO GET THEM TO SEE THE OTHER
SIDE AS PEOPLE WHO CAN ONLY BE
DEALT WITH, WITH VIOLENCE.
SO I KEEP COMING BACK TO THIS,
IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE KIND OF
STUCK IN GROUNDHOG DAY.
WE HAVE THE SAME DISCUSSION AND
DEBATE ABOUT TRUMP, HIS USE OF
LANGUAGE, VIOLENCE, FOR THE
LAST EIGHT YEARS.
YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE TELLS
YOU WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM.
AND TO ME THE SCARY THING IS NOT
THAT HE'S DOING THIS, HE'S BEEN
DOING THIS FOR EIGHT YEARS AND
IT STILL APPEALING TO TENS OF
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS, AND
THAT'S A DEEPER QUESTION WE
NEED TO THINK ABOUT AND A
DEEPER CHALLENGE FOR THE BIDEN
CAMPAIGN AND THE DEMOCRATS TO
CONTEND WITH.
>> AND I WOULD ARGUE, DAVID,
FOR THE COUNTRY.
THERE WAS ALSO AN ADDITION TO
THE VIOLENT RHETORIC THERE WAS
THE DEHUMANIZATION OF MIGRANTS.
SAYING SOME MIGRANTS ARE NOT
PEOPLE.
I THINK WE HEARD ENOUGH DONALD
TRUMP SOUND FOR TODAY BUT I
WON'T PLAY ANYMORE BUT HE DID
BRAG ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE WAS
HAVE THE LARGEST DOMESTIC
DEPORTATION OPERATION IN
AMERICAN HISTORY.
I THOUGHT IT WAS NOTABLE THAT
HE TRIED TO ARGUE THAT THE
CRISIS WE ARE SEEING AT OUR
SOUTHERN BORDER HAS AFFECTED
HISPANIC AND AFRICAN AMERICAN
COMMUNITIES MORE THAN ANY
OTHERS, THAT SEEMS TO ME LIKE A
VERY STRATEGIC CHOICE.
WE SAT AT THIS TABLE MANY TIMES
TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN, THEY KNOW THEY
DON'T HAVE TO WIN LATINO VOTERS
OR WHEN BLACK VOTERS BUT THEY
JUST HAVE TO SIPHON OFF ENOUGH
MARGINS FROM DEMOCRATS TO
CREATE A BUFFER IN THE SWING
STATES.
IT'S ALARMING BOTH BECAUSE
WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
DONALD TRUMP USES THIS RACIST,
XENA PHOBIC RHETORIC BUT IT'S
ALSO DANGEROUS TO ME, SYMONE,
THAT HE IS SLIPPING AND, IN THE
MIDDLE, A CALL TO LATINOS AND
AFRICAN AMERICANS TO USE
IMMIGRATION AS A WEDGE.
>> HE'S PROBABLY BANKING ON
THAT WE ARE STUPID.
THAT BLACK AND LATINO VOTERS
ARE NOT PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION
AND THEY CAN BE SCARED WITH HIS
XENA PHOBIC AND I WOULD ARGUE,
QUITE FRANKLY RACIST RHETORIC,
INTO PITTING THEMSELVES AGAINST
ONE ANOTHER, IN THE SAME BREATH
HE SAYS THESE THINGS, HE WILL
ALSO, YOU KNOW, GO ON TO SAY,
AND REMIND US AND SAY OH, I WAS
VERY GOOD TO THE BLACK
COMMUNITY, BLACK PEOPLE LOVE
ME, REMEMBER HE SAID THAT BLACK
PEOPLE REALLY IDENTIFIED WITH
HIM BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, FROM HIS
PERSPECTIVE IS AFTER HIM, AND
BLACK PEOPLE IDENTIFY WITH
THAT?
I THINK AGAIN, PEOPLE HAVE TO
LOOK AT NOT THE POLLS, BUT WHAT
IS HAPPENING IN COMMUNITIES.
AND THERE IS SOME SKEPTICISM
AMONG BLACK AND LATINO VOTERS
IN VARIOUS SWING STATES ACROSS
THE COUNTRY BUT I THINK PEOPLE
HAVE TO SLOW THEIR ROLE BEFORE
THEY EQUATE THAT WITH FOLKS
VOTING FOR DONALD TRUMP.
AS THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN
SAYING ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, I
HEARD A SPEECH OF HERS AND SHE
SAID THAT DEMOCRATS ARE
FIGHTING THE COUCH.
I THINK THAT IS ACTUALLY THE
MORE CONCERNING THING THESE
DEMOCRATIC CAMPAIGNS, NOT THAT
LARGE SWATHS OF PEOPLE WILL
VOTE FOR TRUMP BUT THAT THEY
COULD STAY HOME.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
I MEAN THAT'S THE BIG ISSUE
FROM THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN,
REMINDING PEOPLE AGAIN AND
AGAIN AND AGAIN, OF THE DANGERS
THAT DONALD TRUMP POSES, THIS
IS A GUY WHOSE MISMANAGEMENT OF
THE PANDEMIC COST THE LIVES OF
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
AMERICANS.
THESE WERE PREVENTABLE DEATH
ACCORDING TO THE SURVEYS BUT
PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT THAT, TO
THE EXTENT THAT SEAN KENNEDY
CAN GO ON AND SAY SHE BETTER
FOUR YEARS AGO, WE ARE WORRIED,
WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE
OR THE COUNTRY WOULD BE AND
YET, SO PEOPLE ARE YOU KNOW,
THEY MAY NOT LOVE BIDEN OR BE
JAZZED BY HIM BUT MAYBE TO
REMEMBER WHAT THOSE TRUMP YEARS
WERE LIKE.
WHAT HE REPRESENTS.
AND HE DOES THIS FIREHOSE OF
OUTRAGE, SO AS SOON AS HE SAYS
SOMETHING OR DO SOMETHING
OUTRAGEOUS, HE DOES 20 OF IN
AND OUT ALL CLOSE TOGETHER,
THEY TURN IT OFF AND IT'S TRUMP
BEING TRUMP AND THE NEW YORK
TIMES EVEN SAID HE TRAFFICS IN
STEREOTYPES. ALL OF THESE
THINGS BLUR TOGETHER AND
POINTING IT OUT AND GETTING
PEOPLE ENERGIZED ABOUT HIM IS
ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES
THAT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN FACES.
>> THAT GOES TO ONE OF THE
THINGS I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR A
LONG TIME.
WE HAD A CONVERSATION
YESTERDAY, WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT THE RECENT, YOU KNOW, THE
RECENT NOT THAT OF COURSE, THAT
THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM FINDS
ITSELF IN IN DEALING WITH HIS
CASES, HE FLOODS THE ZONE IN
SUCH A WAY THAT THE SYSTEM
DOESN'T KNOW, K, WHAT TO DO
WITH ALL OF THE INCOMING, BUT
THEN, HE GETS SORT OF, IN THE
SPACE WHERE, OKAY, HE'S A
FORMER PRESIDENT AND WE'VE
NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE AND IT'S
ALMOST A SENSE THAT HIS TEAM IS
BANKING ON THAT, OUR JUSTICE
SYSTEM, POLITICAL SYSTEM, IS
NOT BUILT TO DEAL WITH AN
ASYMMETRICAL PLAYER LIKE TRUMP,
WHO DOESN'T CARE.
HE'S GOING TO THROW IT OUT
THERE, HE'S GOING TO GO OUT AND
USE THE KIND OF LANGUAGE THAT
HE KNOWS, DELIBERATELY KNOWS
WILL OFFEND AND THAT HE'S LIKE
OKAY, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THIS
NUGGET HERE FOR YOU TO WORK
OUT.
I'M MOVING ON.
AND SO, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK
WE HAVE TO NOW FIND OURSELVES
COLLECTIVELY CLEANSING THIS OUT
OF OUR SYSTEM, AND NOT FOCUSING
SO MUCH ON EVERY LITTLE BIT BUT
STAYING FOCUSED ON THE BIGGER
QUESTION OF, THE MAN SAID HE
WANTS TO BE A DICTATOR, OKAY.
>> HE SAID HE WANTS TO BE A
DICTATOR, HE SAID THERE WON'T
BE ELECTIONS AGAIN, LAST NIGHT,
HE SAID IT WILL BE A BLOODBATH,
WHETHER RATHER ECONOMIC OR
REGULAR.
HE'S TELLING US.
I THINK MICHAEL'S POINT, I
THINK THE SYSTEM COULD HANDLE
TRUMP, IT HAS DECIDED IT'S
GOING TO TREAT HIM DIFFERENTLY
BUT MICHAEL'S OVERALL POINT, I
DON'T THINK WE SHOULD RUSH OVER
AT ALL AND MAYBE WE ALL NEED TO
TAKE A SIP AND THINK ABOUT IT
AS AMERICANS BUT WHY, WHY, WHY,
DO WE FIND IT OH, OKAY, WE HAVE
TO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT THING.
WE CANNOT, AFTER EIGHT, 10,
TREAT HIM LIKE A REGULAR
PERSON.
HE'S NOT REGULAR.
>> AND I JUST POINT OUT
SOMETHING TO YOU, MY WIFE
POINTED OUT TO ME THE OTHER
DAY, SHE SAID, I JUST WANT A
DAY WHEN I CAN GET UP AND NOT
HAVE TO THINK ABOUT TALK ABOUT
REACT TO, OR SEES DONALD TRUMP
ON MY NEWS IN MY PAPERS IN MY
MEDIA, FOLKS, WE HAVE BEEN
INUNDATED AND CONSUMED BY THIS
ONE MAN, FOR EIGHT YEARS.
YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT ANYONE IN
YOUR FAMILY THAT MUCH.
YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT YOUR
FRIENDS THAT MUCH.
ASK YOURSELVES, WHEN YOU HAVE A
CONVERSATION, HOW MANY TIMES
DOES SOMEONE RAISE HIS NAME OR
YOU BRING IT UP, THAT IS THE
PROBLEM WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY
RIGHT NOW.
WE NEED TO CLEANSE OURSELVES OF
THIS.
THE ELECTION IS THE WAY YOU DO
IT, IN MY VIEW.
I MEAN, HE'S TELLING US THAT
YOU KNOW, WHAT HIS WORLD IS
GOING TO LOOK LIKE, YOU EITHER
WANT MORE OF THAT, OR YOU
DON'T.
THIS IS FOR ME, A VERY
CLARIFYING MOMENT, BUT --
>> WE'VE HAD OTHER CLARIFYING
MOMENTS.
>> IT'S BEEN A CLARIFYING
COUPLE OF YEARS.
WE ARE AT THE INFLECTION POINT.
WE ARE RIGHT THERE, ELECTIONS
MATTER, TO BE CLEAR, WE NEED TO
SAY THIS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
HIM AND THE NEWS MEDIA IS
TALKING ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE IS
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND IF
PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION