Max Blumenthal: Charlie Kirk BOMBSHELL Revelation | Middle East Faces Total COLLAPSE
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Hi everybody. Today is Wednesday, October 1st, 2025 and our friend Max
Blumenthal joins us. Welcome Max. Good to see you Nemo.
Max, let's start with last time we talked about Charlie Kirk and since then we have a lot of conspiracy theories
theories coming out but the main issue would be the case of Israel that the
letter that Charlie Kirk wrote to Israel two days ago we had an article on New York Post saying that in that letter he
showed he wrote about his deep love for Israel and yesterday
Candace Owen During her podcast, he she challenged TPUSA about
the way that Charlie Kirk really felt about Israel. Here is what she said before going to your com. Thanks.
Turning Point USA executives to issue a very clean statement saying that I am
lying if this is not true. About 48 hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informed people at Turning Point, as
well as Jewish donors and a rabbi, that he had no choice but to abandon the
pro-Israel cause outright. Okay, Charlie was done. He said it explicitly that he
refused to be bullied anymore by the Jewish donors. Did Can you guys answer? Did he express that? Um, did he also
express that he wanted to bring me, Candace Owens, back because he was standing up for himself? And then did he
just 48 hours later conveniently catch a bullet to the throat before our onstage
reunion could happen? It's a yes or a no. Okay, let's stop this ditching.
Let's not the dodging. Let's like explicitly I want to hear from Turning Point USA that I'm lying about that. I
want you to say no. No. Yeah, you get the way that she's But how
do you see the whole situation with Charlie Kirk and Israel? M Max,
I mean it's a it's a bigger discussion about the American public in Israel and
the complete collapse of American support. And so there was this letter
that Netanyahu initially presented when he wanted to claim the legacy of Charlie
Kirk, but he didn't re release the full letter and just said, "Charlie sent me a letter." And it outlines his love for
Israel. And I invited him come to Israel two weeks before his death. Netanyahu
didn't say if Charlie Kirk had agreed to come to Israel. He didn't uh explain
what the contents were. And so Candace Owens has been demanding that he release
the full letter. And I did so as well on the show of Charlie Kirk's friend Matt
Gates, who also is very uncomfortable with the special relationship in which
Israel dominates American affairs in the region and basically bosses around the
president and Congress. This is a former member of Congress. So Netanyahu does soon after that or someone close to
Netanyahu releases this letter. It was obviously an exercise in damage control.
And the letter is a digital reproduction of something. It's undated.
And what it contains is more complex than the way some who have either
deliberately attempted to spin it to make Charlie Kirk seem like this dieh hard died in the will ride or die Israel
supporter. Uh or though like like for example Bill Aman promoted that letter as well as the
New York Post. Bill Aman the billionaire Netanyahu cutout who I exposed for
hosting this secret pro-Israel influencer summit with Charlie Kirk back in August. You know,
so he was determined to show that Charlie Kirk was on board with Israel and so too was the New York Post, which
is a vehicle for Netanyahu's propaganda machine. But if you look at the letter,
the contents are much more complex. I mean, and and and you can see Charlie
Kirk doesn't understand the position he's in as a Israeli subcontractor, and he's asking Netanyahu and Israel to do
the work of Israeli propaganda in the US rather than contract out to all of these
highly influential Gentiles. He doesn't get how it works. The other thing is the letter supposedly was dated in May. And
that's that was it's almost like it felt like light years away from where Charlie
Kirk wound up in August following this very uncomfortable influencer summit where he was screamed at by a Zionist
fanatic who's a UK lawyer named Natasha Heddorf and
basically the the if you look at the timeline and the chronology the letter comes out in May. He also is uh urging
Netanyahu to make his own case for the war on Iran and stating that the American public is against the war and
that he doesn't want to be a lobbyist for a war for another country in that
letter. The war comes in June. Charlie Kirk is in the White House lobbying against the war. That's a fact. I
reported that first and then um JD Vance thei the the vice president of the US
corroborated what I reported as did Tucker Carlson. Then July the student
action summit of TPUSA in Florida where Tucker Carlson lashes out at Bill Aman.
everyone uh from him to Megan Kelly to um Rob Schneider, the comedian, calls
Jeffrey Epstein a Mossad agent and says the po the president needs to, you know, tell the public the truth, which made
Trump very uncomfortable as well as Israel. And they have this debate about the Gaza genocide with comic Dave Smith,
an anti-ionist Jew on stage. You're not supposed to debate this. So Charlie Kirk just he's not doing what his donors
want. His donors want total loyalty to Israel and they want the influential Gentiles to make the case for the
self-proclaimed Jewish state in the US. He's not doing it anymore. Then the influencer summit in August. A day after
that summit, he goes on former Fox News host show Megan, the show of former Fox News host Megan Kelly and complains
about stakeholders and funders who are bossing him around and complains, "I have less ability to criticize Israel
than Israelis do." So, it's very clear there's a difference in what happened between August and May with Charlie
Kirk. And then, as I reported, he lost his one of his biggest, if not his
absolute biggest donor a month later, right before his death, Robert Schillman, who is not just an
anti-Palestinian ludnik billionaire moneyman in the United
States. He's an anti-Islam activist. He funds Tommy Robinson to wage a race war
in the UK. He's funding Laura Loomer. He has funded Laura Loomer. He funded Geilders, the politician in the
Netherlands who wants to ban the Quran. This is like an extreme figure and he
actually according to my sources and haven't heard anything from Robert
Schilman demanded that a plaque that was going to be erected inside TPUSA
headquarters in Phoenix not go up in his name. took the money away. I mean, we're
talking about over $6 million here that he has allegedly contributed.
So, by and by the end, as I also revealed, there were these 10 Zoom calls
that Charlie Kirk had to call into constantly where he would meet with a consortium of
10 or so Netanyahu cutouts in the US. One of them was Shawn Maguire from
Sequoia Capital who I think helped coordinate Elon's visit to Israel.
Uh fanatical Zionist said Zoron Mandani comes from a culture of deception. Uh
Joshua Hammer from Newsweek, he's an editor who called for on October 8th, 2023 called for Gaza to be raised to the
ground and turned into a football stadium. and Bill Aman. Then there was
this rabbi in an American rabbi who now lives in an Israeli settlement, Pesiki,
who was basically Charlie Kirk's personal Israeli handler, and said that he was
speaking to him on an almost daily basis. Charlie Kirk was pushing back and
uh that they were trying to establish a WhatsApp group so they could basically instead of speaking to him daily speak to him minute after minute about what to
say on his upcoming tour. And they were really worried about his upcoming tour because these Netanyahu cutouts believed
that Charlie Kirk would be besieged by students, conservative students, asking him uncomfortable questions about the
US-Israeli relationship and they wanted him to defend Israel and they didn't think he was going to do it. So
Netanyahu could not credibly claim Charlie Kirk's legacy as he was shifting.
And my understanding based on what Candace publicly said is that she was having conversations with Charlie Kirk
towards the end about his transformation. And I'm hoping that she will come out with more. But this letter
was an obvious exercise in damage control. on anyone who's, you know, on the,
you know, anti-ionist side who believes that that letter shows that Charlie Kirk
is was just this pro-Israel fanatic and doesn't understand the real role he was
playing and what it says about the larger role of political operatives who
are basically relying on this Zionist billionaire donor class in the US is
playing Netanyahu's game, advancing game. And now, I mean, we're how many
weeks out from this assassination? We've learned so much. There's still so many questions about the assassination
itself, but we've learned so much more about how Netanyahu is operating. When I
say Netanyahu, it's because there he represents the dominant political mafia
in Israel, which has entrenched itself particularly within the Republican party through money from the adds, the Marcus
family, various other sort of Zionist mafias in the US. And they're they're
almost in they're totally focused on the Republican party and the conservative grassroots, which is why I say Netanyahu
cutouts. And why? Because there's no point in
dealing with the Democratic Party grassroots, which is sort of like progressives, progressive youth. Um,
they're done. The the the there in every poll, it shows singledigit support for
Israel among that demographic. But for conservatives, older Republicans over 40
still support Israel in whopping numbers. But if you go down to the under
35 constituency, it gets lower and lower and opposition
to US aid to Israel completely collapses. And what you actually have seen on the tour that Charlie Kirk was
supposed to carry out where he's had these various um sort of guest figures
filling his chair like Megan Kelly herself is they are being besieged with
questions about Israel, very sophisticated questions asking about Zionist billionaires like Robert
Schillman and Bill Aman like they're calling them out by name and asking do you think we have an inappropriate
relationship with Israel? And Megan Kelly cannot answer the questions. She's deflecting and she herself is under
attack from Israel because she's uh you know kind of a a threat to their
narrative. So what is Netanyahu doing? He's got is
his government just hired Trump's former campaign manager. His name is Brad Pascal
to the tune of $1.5 million a month for the next four months to recruit Gen Z
influencers. All of them are going to be like conservative oriented anti-woke
race baiters and to game the algorithm of chat GPT to
work on mechanisms for making sure that chat GPT does not deliver answers that
interfere with Israel's narrative. And on those influencers, there's a company that's been set up by Israel in Germany.
It's sort of like a third party to channel money into these influencers in
the US. And according to the contract, if you break down the math, some
influencers are getting paid $7,000 per post per post, which means they could be
getting like $100,000 a month. I mean, I don't know how much getting for dialogue works, but it's like uh very tempting if
you have no soul to just sell out. Um, I mean, one figure who's probably getting
millions of dollars, they're recruiting cultural figures. Aelia Banks, this this uh washed up rapper who's sort of a
loudmouth on Twitter X, is going to perform in Israel on October 7th. They just straight up bought her. Um, you
know, they noticed that she was like trashing Palestinians, so they just bought her. I mean, I I bet I guarantee
you she's gotten millions of dollars. So this is this is not these are not the actions of a country that is confident
about its narrative and that thinks that it's winning the PR battle. It's these
are the death pangs. It's sort of the death rattle of a multi-billion dollar
hosah complex. And you know in Washington DC where I am, the city is
now filled with these billboard trucks showing images of pe frightened people
on October 7th and atrocities on October 7th. Many of them actually committed by the Israeli military against their own
citizens. They're just everywhere in DC. I mean there are like dozens of these trucks. Who's paying for it? So they're
losing. And Charlie Kirk was really one of the most clear
symbols of Israel's propaganda defeat, which is why they're spinning it and doing so much damage control.
Max, what's going on? I think what you've mentioned is is so much important
for Israel, the public opinion. When you look at the support, the support that goes to Israel from Europeans and from
the United States, you see the public opinion in Europe totally is, you know,
against what Israel is doing in Gaza. But in the United States, it seems to me that they had some sort of hope with
TPUSA that they can change the mood because we had an article on New York
Times and seven out of 10 Americans, young under 30, they're against economic
and military aid to Israel in the United States. This is where
concerns the most the government in Israel and Net administration and
they're trying to do everything. That's why I think the new guy who's somehow
replacing Charlie Kirk is totally pro- Israel. Do you think they do do they really believe that they can change the
public reshape the public opinion among the young people in the United States?
They they don't have any other choice. There is no Charlie Kirk replacement by the way. There was this guy Brian
Hollyan Hollyan who just got uh who who positioned
himself as the next Charlie Kirk and TPUSA has just disowned him. Someone was paying for him to go to campuses in a
private jet as Charlie Kirk did by the way. Um not exactly the best steward of
donor money. But there's no replacement for Charlie Kirk. There never will be.
and he was sort of straddling the divide between the donor class that was paying for his McMansion in Scottsdale,
Arizona, and McMansions for all of his buddies who were getting in on the TPUSA grift where none of the money really
went to like actual political campaigns. It was just routed to different contractors and cronies. It was sort of
like a televangelist operation and then they would put on these Super Bowl style
hoopla fililled events with pyro technics that uh were flashy but I'm not
sure uh what what effect they had other than sort of u setting a narrative and
the narrative that they were setting was shifting because of the conservative grassroots not because of Charlie Kirk's
direction and the conservative grassroots increasingly was rejecting what they would consider to be con or
conservative incorporated. This astrourfed Republican party
driven brand of conservatism that was I said astroturfed paid for often by
Israel first billionaires but branded as America first and they were rejecting
it. So where does it go now? Um, TPUSA
is having a major another one of these Super Bowl bonan style bonanzas called
America Fest in December. And the keynote speaker is going to be Tucker Carlson.
They haven't replaced him. And Marjgerie Taylor Green, the leading Israel critic in Congress today, more outspoken than
AOC and all most of the squad. I mean, you don't even hear from them, the sort of progressive left members of the
Democratic party. You barely hear from them on this issue partly because Trump is president. So the friction is between
Marjgerie Taylor Green and Trump who helped create her. And so the friction will be present on stage at TPUSA.
What what did Tucker Carlson say at Charlie Kirk's memorial? He said uh you
know he likened him to Jesus Christ which was a little extreme.
and then said that people who are sitting around eating hummus didn't like what Jesus was saying so they decided to
kill him. I mean, who's sitting around eating hummus today?
Uh, who would have killed Charlie Kirk? I mean, was it just like I don't know,
Tyler Robinson? Was he eating hummus like Sabra Hummus in his
uh apartment with his furry roommate? Is that what Tucker Carlson was implying? I don't think so. So Tucker is really
crossing some red lines for the Zionist movement. They hate him. They really
want to to silence Tucker Carlson and they can't do it. So this this sort of
train is still moving ahead and there's it's a ghost train. TPUSA is just like
this ghost train that has tons of money because of the the figure and image of Charlie Kirk and everyone's fighting to
try to claim his legacy. But ultimately, it's conservative youth under 35 who are
going to determine where things go because TPUSA can't credibly continue to
raise money uh without filling the chairs. and at the same time they can't raise money
without appeasing these Israel first billionaires. So how will they square that contradiction? It's not clear to me
that they can. So I've been predicting that the clash that we saw at the Democratic convention in 2024 where the
Democrats actually had to shut down a potential speech by a Palestinian speaker and shut down resolutions
against the Gaza genocide. Kla Harris issued some pathetic rhetoric
about the suffering of Palestinian civilians and then said, "But Hamas raped everybody on October 7th." You
know, further alienating the progressive grassroots. That's going to play out at the Republican convention increasingly
in 2028 and beyond. And there are other
issues beyond Gaza or Israel. For them, it's the wars. Conservative youth,
like progressive youth, are not on board with a war on Iran, nor are they supportive of the war that Trump
promised to end in Ukraine. It's all going to play out in an in a way we
haven't seen before. And we're going to see these parties like the bipartisan duopoly exposed as an undemocratic
hologram that only represents the donor class.
You talked with the president of Iran when he came to New York and what was
his position? What did he say about the conflict? Because as we know that the
aerial tankers the United States moved them to Europe 3
days ago and right now they arrived to Alodide air base in Qatar and they're
trying to do something the same sort of movement that we've seen during the first conflict between direct war
between Iran and Israel. It seems that they're preparing to do something. And what was the mood on the part of
Iranians? Well, just a quick point on that. Uh
Netanyahu threatened Iraq in his speech at the UN General Assembly. Many might
have missed that. He was threatening the popular mobilization forces.
And so any mobilization by the US in the region to support an Israeli strike
could go beyond Iran. At this point, Netanyahu, I think he held up the
plaque, his his graphic on the blessing and the curse, and the curse extends deep into Iraq. And this is a problem
for the United States because the popular mobilization forces have at least temporarily
momentarily helped stabilize Iraq uh by integrating with the Iraqi military.
These aren't just these aren't militias. and that has prevented operations on US
bases that are right there. So, Israel is threatening the stability that has at
least momentarily benefited the United States.
Iranian President Massud Pzeskian came to New York with a pretty clear
agenda which was to carry out a lastditch attempt to prevent
snapback sanctions which of course failed. It was a done deal. The hypocritical E3 of the Europeans was
determined to impose this no matter what. They cannot allow the economic and
hybrid war on Iran to end or to extend as the Russians and the Russian and
Chinese delegation sought to just extend the JCPOA for six more months. They couldn't let that happen. The Europeans
went along completely with the unprovoked Israeli assault on Iran back
in June. But Iran and this government in particular want to use every ounce of
negotiating leverage that they have and send a signal back to the parts of the
Iranian public which are um I guess less
politically uh inclined to to support the Islamic
Republic that they've tried everything and that there's nothing they can do and that they've essentially been betrayed
by their negotiating partners before the next round of war. So I was invited with
a group of journalists and think tank analysts and peace activists to a on
thereord meeting outside the UN with Peshkan. And his message was pretty
simple. War for sure they will attack Iran again. Those were his words. And he
even forecasted the scenario of his own assassination or an attempt on his life.
And it was reported that Pizkan escaped narrowly from an Israeli assassination attempt in the last round. And he wanted
to send the message that Iran is prepared for all contingencies including his own assassination. They have
prepared five to six steps ahead. Uh, I listened with
um some uh trepidation and I guess horror to
your interview with my friend Muhammad Morandi where he said pretty much the
same thing that Iran is prepared to replace him as well. This is someone
who's not even in the government, who is just a private commentator, but he plays such a prominent role um with his
command of the facts and the English language in international media that he
had to consider that Israel would target him as well. Israel's just this gigantic assassination machine that has been
slaughtering any journalist in the Gaza Strip. So now even private commentators in Iran have to consider that they could
be a target on their back. This is what Iran is mobilizing for. And Peskan was
also speaking to us because we have a direct channel to the American
public. There were figures from the American Conservative magazine there and figures from the left. Uh
so he was basically speaking to the part of the public, the American public that's anti-war.
And one of his principal complaints was the concept of terrorism especially
after Israel's attack on Qatar where it attempted to wipe out the entire Hamas
negotiating team in order to eliminate just end negotiations altogether but
that it attacked inside a US ally. Um the attack struck a building that was in
a densely populated neighborhood in Doha. It was school was getting out at that time and he said how come why are
we called the terrorists when Israel is waging not just a sevenfront war and
slaughtering children in Gaza but attacking inside a US ally in a densely populated civilian neighborhood carrying
out assassinations around the world. It was something that he spent a lot of time and breath on complaining about was
the western understanding of terrorism. And
finally, um, Peshkan
sort of solicited views on how relations could be improved between the US and
Iran because he has sim seemingly given up on any ability to move the American
president and his administration. And he said that Steve Witco, the Middle East envoy, would come to Doha for these
meetings, negotiations, and he said someone should have recorded this because he would tell us something very
positive about all the progress we were making moving back to a new deal. And then he would go back to Washington and
issue Bellose demands of us that sounded like Israel had told him what to say.
The hypocrisy was so out astounding they don't believe they can work with the
Americans again. My question to Peskian was to simply quote from a speech
delivered by Iran's leader Ayatollah Ali Hame on September 23rd where he said
that negotiating with the Americans at this point after what had just happened would be a declaration of national
surrender. And I asked Pzeskian if that was reflective of his view. Partly
because of the format of the meeting because uh there would be two rounds of questioning and then Peskan would
respond kind of in a generalized form
summing up all of the questions. I only got a generalized answer from him that
was not a yes or no, which was unfortunate. and uh Abasar Ragchi, the
foreign minister was seated beside him and interjected at one point during the
meeting that in 2018, Israel struck the Natan's facility with
an explosive device. Uh they destroyed something like 4,000 centrifuges
and the point of the Israeli attack was to sabotage negotiations with the
Americans. But it the Iranian negotiating team continued negotiating
while increasing enrichment to somewhere near 60%. That was their response and he
was suggesting this will be our response going forward and that they are flexible
about enrichment levels but only if they receive sanctions relief. That was the
message from Aragchi. Max, when it comes to Iran and the war
with Iran, do you see that the main objective of the United States and Israel are the same or they're somehow
different in the way that they see the conflict, the war with Iran?
How can we even define an American objective in Iran at this point independent of Israel? The American
objective has been outlined by Israel and shaped by Israel over the course of
several decades. So there is no the distinct American objective. The
American objective should be to negotiate with Iran for mutually
beneficial win-win uh trade deals and import export deals
so the US can have cheaper gas. I mean that's what the US objective should be.
But I Iran supports resistance in the region to the Gaza genocide.
A genocide I consider to be continuous over decades. That's the main the only
reason this is happening. Uh there's there's there's no need to to to pillillage Iran to get favorable deals
on oil. and ultimately following the Israeli objective into the next round
could lead to the closure of the straight of Hormuz which would devastate the global economy and even and worsen
the condition of the American consumer who's already s beginning to suffer the
effect of Trump's maximalist erratic tariffs.
So the the the Israeli objective is Netanyahu's objective which is regime change and that becomes the American
objective and the pretext is 60% enriched uranium stockpiles exist
somewhere in Iran. So we have to summon all of these US aircraft and send more and more of our dwindling THAAD missile
stock to defend Israel as it prepares for another attack. It's like the
pretext on Venezuela. the um Department of Justice and CIA created a fake cartel, declared that
Nicholas Maduro is the head of this cartel and that the US must attack inside Venezuela to eliminate cartels to
save the lives of Americans who are being poisoned. And anyone who's stupid enough to believe that will actually
support the real objective of Marco Rubio and the Gusano industrial complex
in South Miami in South Florida, which is regime change. They just the war on
drugs, the war on terror, these are just phony pretexts for US intervention. And
there and in in both cases, the United States is following the agenda of a malign fifth column that seeks to
exploit US military and economic power to carry out its narrow sectarian
agenda. With respect to Iran, Israel has lost the element of surprise that it
exploited in using the negotiations to attack Iran. I guess it was on uh
June 10th or no, so June 13th when it
was it killed numerous offduty IRGC commanders and nuclear scientists.
They've lost that at this point and there's no negotiation to lull Iran into a false sense of security. They've also
lost uh much of their capacity. I would it would seem that they've lost much of
their capacity to attack from within through Mossad's cells, especially with these sort of hidden drone bases inside
Iran, which did do a lot of damage. There were a lot of deportations of
Afghan migrants who are said to be sort of a a base for Assad recruitment inside Iran. They've lost that. But the most
important thing they've lost and Peskian spoke to this is the threat of regime
change from within from the Iranian people. Um I think one I mean it was the killing
of civilians and the like car bombings in in Taj in North Thran where you have
like a whole part of the population that opposes the Islamic Republic. the sort of middle and upper class starts to come
under attack and they begin to rally around the flag and support the military. Um, but there was one event
during the last 12-day conflict that I think really encapsulates the Israeli failure and it
was the attack on Evan prison, which is the prison that's said to hold political prisoners and dissident. And the
Israelis in this delusional neoconservative feverbrain state thought
that they if they attack with a missile strike the gate of Evan prison, it would
send a signal to all of the Iranians who hate the Islamic Republic to come out in the streets and that Israel will
liberate them. What they wound up doing was they killed a number of prisoners. They killed social workers and they
killed family members who were visiting the prisoners. And the Iranian republic, the Iranian public reacted with complete
disgust, including uh exiled dissidents who are backed by the West
like Nargas Muhammad condemned this. Uh what's that lady? The lady with the hair
condemned it. Whose whose name I I forget right now who's just like a basically a a CIA asset.
That that was the Israelis. So the Israelis completely failed to create chaos in the streets and this so this
round I think this next coming round will look much different and the idea of
regime change is off the table. It's going to be a much more violent
round of conflict and I think the Israeli objective here going back to the
beginning of my comments on this question is to drag the US in even more
deeply. um possibly get the US to deploy more of
its naval assets to get the US in a much more close quarters combat with Iran and
ultimately boots on the ground. Every American death against Iran will be a
death of American soldiers for Israel. That's the fact
that Donald Trump is talking about his peace deal for the situation in Gaza.
And what's so amazing that they don't mention the right of Palestinians gazins
to decide about their future. What do they want to be? What is the future in
their mind? And what is when you look at the these 20
21 point that he's mentioning in this which is in your opinion what points are
most most important the most important points in the peace deal and is that
going to be possible with what's going on in Gaza because Netno came out and said he doesn't care about but he's not
going to withdraw from Gaza so what's the point after with this peace plan in
your opinion? It's all been cooked up by the Israelis. This 21point peace plan
it and it's a ruse to paint Hamas as rejectionists after they have accepted
virtually every proposal. Uh which then you know they then they get rugged by
the US which says oh we had a proposal and then they go back and say well Hamas actually rejected it because Netanyahu
changes the proposal. than the US accepts Netanyahu's changes. So this was a more sophisticated propaganda ruse to
present a detailed coherent package. It took them a long time to get it together. They needed to demolish much
of Gaza to create the sense that there was a day after that was coming and imminent and they needed to get Tony
Blair on board as the sort of L. Paul Bremer referring to the head of the
coalition provisional authority that was a complete
absolute disaster for the Iraqi people during the US occupation of Iraq. uh
repackaged for Gaza with various uh tech solutions that will benefit Tony Blair
and his Tony Blair Institute, which has received something like $300 million from Larry Ellison, the ultra Zionist
billionaire who runs Oracle, the CIA and Israeli data contractor.
These are all like, you know, incentives or Tony Blair is just basically seeing
green here. So, you have Tony Blair as the head of the Gaza International Transitional Authority. I just looked
over their institutional structure documents, and it's laughable. Uh, there's a section on property rights for
people in Gaza who are acknowledged in the documents as being encouraged to
voluntarily migrate, but it says there there there will be a board to make sure that their property rights are
respected. Yeah. Right. Then in the 21point plan, there's this whole I mean
the emphasis is on Hamas being dradicalized. No one's going to be dradicalized when
you've destroyed their homes, ruined their lives, and continue killing their
family members. But it's dradicalization under occupation. This has always been a fantasy. It's like when Hillary Clinton
would talk about getting the hate out of Palestinian Authority school books, but without ending the occupation.
Hamas leaders will supposedly be given and members will be given safe passage if they put down their arms and then
utopia will ensue. It's an absolute joke. This is a pacification
plan to continue the genocide with the support of at least figures who are
known in the international community. and it will not end the violence against
Gaza because as we've seen in Syria when Syria agreed to be pacified under the uh
imposed leadership of former al-Qaeda leader Ahmed al- Sharah, Israel has continued to attack day after day, week
after week, destroying the remnants of the Syrian Arab army, destroying potential bases that Turkey was setting
up to train the new Syrian army. The attacks continue. I believe yesterday in
Ketra, the Israeli army actually displayed Israeli flags in the occupied Golan. And this was all while Ahmed
al-Shar was returning from New York where he met with one of Netanyahu's top
billionaire cutouts, Ronald Lauder, who has donated millions and millions of dollars not just to the Israel lobby,
but also to support Israeli settlement activity. uh no matter what he does, Syria
continues to be occupied, continues to be attacked. So if Gaza, if the resistance in Gaza gives up, they will
get the same treatment. Look at what's happening in southern Lebanon. There is a ceasefire between Hezbollah and
Israel. And what is Israel doing? It's fighting. It's waging its strategy of war between wars or mowing the lawn
where it continues to kill members of Hezbollah, continues to attack the homes
of the population in southern Lebanon and push create pressure on the puppet
government of Noah Salam to disarm Hezbollah along along with the US. So
this is this this plan is not a peace plan. It is a pacification plan a and it
will lead to further extermination of large numbers of the population in Gaza
which is why Hamas has reasserted its red line that it will not give up its
arms just as Hezbollah has reasserted that red line and I think you know after
the anniversary of the murder of Hassan Nasra it's
increasingly clear what role Hzbollah has played which is to keep Israeli
troops and Israeli occupiers out of Lebanon and protect the Lebanese people
from them. And if they do disarm, you will see Israel move in up to the up to
the Latani River and begin to take an increasingly aggressive role in on
Lebanese territory. Mark my words, Max, there is some sort of difference
between the United States and Israel when it comes to Syria. Al Shar was
talking with General Petraeus. He said that your success is our success.
Where is that position come from? You look at Israel is not that much
comfortable with the situation in Syria and the role of Turkey and you see the United States somehow trying to calm the
situation, bring them together. After all, what who's alsh to General
Petraeus that he sees that his success is General Petraeus success?
It raises a lot of questions about who al-Sharah aka Muhammad Jalan Jolani was
when he came out of camp Buah and it sends a
insulting message to the families of American veterans who were told that
they were fighting terrorism in during the surge in Iraq that General
Petraeus oversaw as the head of Sentcom when he was hailed as this master of
counterinsurgency. Well, he was fighting this insurgent group
in which uh Muhammad Golani was a rising member al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia. The next thing you know, he's on stage with the
leader with with a AQIM figure who later became the founder of Jabet al-Nusra,
al-Qaeda in Syria. If I if I, you know, were the mother of a veteran who died in Iraq, I'd be
pretty disgusted and angry with Petraeus and I would see this all as just, you know, that I'd realize the I would come
to uh have to reckon with the reality that
my son had just been a pawn in this great geopolitical conquest for the
Middle East, the great game. And that's the role that Shara plays to Petraeus.
Petraeus has been very close to the various players in US intelligence
who are managing the Syria dirty war. I would see him like go into meetings. I I
I once saw went to a meeting of the White Helmets, the Syrian White Helmets, which were a major sort of soft power
card for the US and Turkey and Qatar in the Syrian dirty war. And they came to
Washington at the Atlantic Council, which is the unofficial think tank of NATO. And Petraeus was sitting right there in the front row. And then he went
into a meeting with Riyad Salah, the sort of ostensible head of the White Helmets to a private meeting as they
wanted to manage uh the dirty war in which, you know, subsequent to that
meeting, the White Helmets made several false claims about chemical attacks which triggered Western intervention. So
Petraeus continues to wants to continue to be a player in Syria. And
uh when he says, you know, what was the quote? Our your your victory is our victory.
Your success is our success. Your success our success. When Petraeus says our success, that includes the
Israelis. I mean, it's all about guaranteeing Israel, Israel's
strategic depth in Syria, which essentially means giving up the Golan.
And my understanding of al-Sharah, talking to Syrians who've been to Syria since he took over, who've known um his
thinking and my own understanding of his thinking is he's willing to trade off um various
parts of Syria u maybe not the Latakia coast
in exchange. I mean, he's willing to basically lay down before Israel, but
his real objective is to transform the areas that he controls, the four main
population centers, into a kind of kandahar and import this kind of takiri
Islam into Syria, which a large percentage of the Syrian population rejects.
That's his vision. That's what he truly believes in. and he is a shrewd player who is making all the right moves in
order to do that. Um, and it starts with selling out to
the Israelis. And by the way, and Israel doesn't care if, you know, Aleppo turns into Kandahar. And if any if anything,
they prefer that. Remember what Moshe Yaon, the former Israeli defense minister said during the Syrian dirty
war? He said, "I prefer ISIS in the Golan Heights on the Syrian side
than I prefer the Syrian Arab Army and IRGC because they're actually a
competent fighting force that is uh committed to Palestine. ISIS, what are
they? They're a joke. Matt, looking at the Trump
administration, Donald Trump came was elected arguing that he is a negotiator.
He wants to negotiate with Iran, with Russia. What's happening to dollar is because of
these continuous endless wars with Iran, Russia, with the region. But you look at
the way that they're talking today. They're talking about Tomahawk missiles going to Ukraine. They're talking about
a new war with Iran. Who's deciding in this administration?
Who's the main the mastermind of the administration? Is there anybody there
to be called mastermind or it's a huge you know some sort of
division within the administration? Two forces, three forces, factions are fighting each other within the
administration. Yeah, I would say there are various factions, but the factions that are
winning represent the neoconservative faction that started this conquest, post
911 conquest under George W. Bush. So,
I keep saying that the Trump's second term feels like the third coming of
George W. Bush's first term. Lindsey Graham is the big winner on
Ukraine after Alaska. Trump has completely turned around and agreed to
new weapons deals, freezing negotiations and uh so is General Keith Kellogg.
Donald Trump on the Western Hemisphere has seated his agenda to Marco Rubio who
has quietly become the most important or influential figure within the national
security bureaucracy along with Steven Miller, the sort of
nivist fanatic who plays who is um backing up Rubio's plan to start to wage
a war inside Venezuela. Rubio controls actually more cabinet
level national security positions than anyone in the United States since Henry
Kissinger, but he's certainly not as savvy an operator as Henry Kissinger, but he's getting his way. And so these
three or four factions all have different agendas. The one faction that I think is losing out right now is the
faction of Elbridge Colby who is in Trump's kitchen cabinet of
national security adviserss who is an anti-China fanatic who sees the
uh ultimate objective of US empire to be neutralizing or weakening the Chinese
threat as China supersedes the US as a global economic power using not military
force but trade and infrastructure and
the belt and road initiative and the expansion of bricks. So Elbridge KBY
would be terrified by the prospect of another conflict over Iran because it
would further deplete US THAAD missile stocks which he would like and I would
think JD Vance who's a figure from the KBY faction
you could call it the Vance faction would like to give those THAAD missiles to Taiwan or to
uh Japan and the Philippines which have just signed a defense pact an anti-China defense pact.
They want to militarize the Pacific Rim and contain China. And they're not able
to do it because Israel, we keep wasting or we the United States keeps wasting
bad missiles on this crazy little apartheid colony that can't stop attacking Iran. And at the same time,
Ukraine has had to redeploy Patriot batteries even to defend Israel.
The faction that wants to take on China ultimately would want a deal in Ukraine
and has pushed for a deal in Ukraine that freezes lines around and Zaparosia.
And the lines are not frozen anymore. Russia continues to advance. Ukraine does not have manpower. no matter how
much technical wherewithal they have to wage these um sophisticated
drone attacks or to use uh more advanced US weapons including tomahawks to attack
inside uh Russian frontier regions. They just don't have the manpower which means
as long as those lines are not frozen the US will keep pouring more and more weapons in as Russia advances towards
Odessa. So, the real imperialist, the real long-term imperialist planners
inside the Trump administration are losing long-term as the Trump administration positions itself for
conflicts that appease the factions that have a much more myopic vision. And I
mean, it's three visions, as I said before. one Rubio catering to the Gusano
industrial complex in South Florida which is a major key for Trump's electoral strategy is to always win
Florida but also I mean Rubio has this ideological fervor that they share to
destroy Venezuela and then they think once Venezuela is destroyed they will be able to topple the government in Cuba
which depends on Venezuelan exports and help and then Nicaragua will be next and
then the region will be completely free for the US to exploit.
And then you have the the Zionist neocon faction, Lindsey Graham, is sort of
fronting for them. They want to destroy Iran for ideological reasons.
And then you have this third faction which is focused on the they're sort of like the traditional military
leadership. They're focused on the revolving door. They're making loads of money through the trillion dollar
defense budget, which is mostly going to contractors. Only like 6% actually goes
to maintaining US troops in the field. And they're just focused on profits and
continuous war. And when they leave the Trump administration, they're going to rake in those profits. And then I I
should say there's a sort of a fourth factor. I don't know if it's a faction, but a fourth factor. If you paid
attention to Donald Trump's speech at Quantico, which is being minimized even by the
people who hate Donald Trump the most in Washington, the liberals and so on, they're like, "Oh, he mocked."
Basically, for those who don't know, Pete Hegsth,
who is one of the least qualified defense secretaries just because of his
rank and lack of experience and is there basically because he's an effective communicator who is a former Fox News
host. He convened 200 US generals and high-ranking officers at Quantico. Many
of them had to come across, some of them had to come across 10 time zones. And then he delivered this speech
lacerating them for being fat and gay. I mean, that's basically what he said.
He's like, "We're not going to have any more dudes in skirts and too many of you are too fat and that's not who we are."
And that was sort of treated as a joke by the media and even by liberals. But it's it's actually setting the stage for
a politicized purge of the military in which Trump loyalists will be elevated
to new positions. and those who are perceived as Democrats will be ousted. Then Donald Trump comes on stage and he
tries to get the military audience to laugh at his jokes. I thought some of
some of them are like classic Trump humor like comedy like he's opening up at a New Jersey nightclub or something.
He's he's he's making he's talking about how Obama bops down the stairs on Air Force One. And he thought that if
there's laughter, it will show some kind of uh support for himself from the
generals, like an organic support, but nobody laughed. So, he sort of failed there. But if you parseed what Trump was
saying, um, including his support and endorsement for Rubio's agenda against
Venezuela, he called for using US cities as training grounds for the US military
to essentially wage war on and pacify parts of the American public that he
described as animals, essentially urban minorities and the poor. They're sending
troops to Memphis uh this coming week and there is plan there are plans to
deploy in Chicago as well. But he talks about American cities as training grounds for foreign conflicts. We
haven't heard this kind of language before. And as Trump does that, this is
something Steven Miller, his top adviser, wants and a large part of his base wants.
it def it it it diffuses the drive to actually send US troops
into a conflict theater in the Pacific Rim or in Iran. So, you have all of
these competing agendas and factions, and the faction that will lose here are
the long-term, I think ultimately more dangerous Imperial planners, and they're
losing to the ideologues and the avaricious grifters in the military.
Yeah. Thank you so much, Matt, for being with us today. Great pleasure to have you on
and hope to see you again soon. Thanks so much, Nemo. Always good talking to you.
Great pleasure, Max.
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Excerpt
Judge Napolitano - Judging Freedom
10/2/25
[Col Lawrence Wilkerson] Yes. This is a little out of the blue for
you, but the young man that murdered Charlie Kirk
was texting to his romantic lover his plans to murder Kirk. The NSA had
those texts.
That doesn't surprise me --
Before, before the murder.
It doesn't
surprise me at all.
Does all of the destruction of the Fourth Amendment, and all of the mass
surveillance of every keystroke, on every mobile device and desktop in the country,
do any good?
We had the two al-Qaeda agents who were operating in the United States, and then
went to the Far East. We had them. We knew who they were. They knew what we knew, what they were plotting. And the
fight between the FBI and the CIA was so intense at that time that neither wanted
to share with the other. And so that information never got to the right places.
But let me say this too. Larry
Johnson and I have been looking really closely -- You know, both of us are riflemen We shoot all the time, .30 odd
sixes, 243 Winchesterers. We shoot all the time. We don't think that man shot
Charlie Kirk.
Good lord. Who did?
We don't know yet, but we are pretty sure that it was at least a 300. And it
was one of those rounds like the one that the autopsy people in Texas said
killed JFK, blew his brains out, and put him on the back of that sedan. It was a
bullet that fragments. It's a special bullet. It is not a steel jacketed round. It's not a round like you shoot
deer with. It doesn't shoot out of a 30-six. It goes into your head and
explodes.
If you remember that movie about the jackal, where he's out practicing with a pumpkin, and he shoots
that pumpkin, and the pumpkin explodes. Well that's what we're talking about.
Wow.
Well, more from Larry on that.
Excerpt
Judge Napolitano - Judging Freedom
10/2/25
[Col Lawrence Wilkerson] Yes. This is a little out of the blue for
you, but the young man that murdered Charlie Kirk
was texting to his romantic lover his plans to murder Kirk. The NSA had
those texts.
That doesn't surprise me --
Before, before the murder.
It doesn't
surprise me at all.
Does all of the destruction of the Fourth Amendment, and all of the mass
surveillance of every keystroke, on every mobile device and desktop in the country,
do any good?
We had the two al-Qaeda agents who were operating in the United States, and then
went to the Far East. We had them. We knew who they were. They knew what we knew, what they were plotting. And the
fight between the FBI and the CIA was so intense at that time that neither wanted
to share with the other. And so that information never got to the right places.
But let me say this too. Larry
Johnson and I have been looking really closely -- You know, both of us are riflemen We shoot all the time, .30 odd
sixes, 243 Winchesterers. We shoot all the time. We don't think that man shot
Charlie Kirk.
Good lord. Who did?
We don't know yet, but we are pretty sure that it was at least a 300. And it
was one of those rounds like the one that the autopsy people in Texas said
killed JFK, blew his brains out, and put him on the back of that sedan. It was a
bullet that fragments. It's a special bullet. It is not a steel jacketed round. It's not a round like you shoot
deer with. It doesn't shoot out of a 30-six. It goes into your head and
explodes.
If you remember that movie about the jackal, where he's out practicing with a pumpkin, and he shoots
that pumpkin, and the pumpkin explodes. Well that's what we're talking about.
Wow.
Well, more from Larry on that.
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As Donald Trump continues to push the
false narrative that left-wing violence
is behind most oh every mass shooting or
political assassination,
the problem is on the left. It's not on
the right, like some people like to say,
on the right. The problem we have is on
the left.
Well, today's breaking video comes from
the far reaches of the extreme right and
the crazies who call that place home.
But what if the questions that they
raise are legit? Now, as you're about to
see uh in our featured story, well, it's
not going to make Trump or those
libtards by comparison over at Turning
Point uh dance with joy.
Uh no, today's featured fly in the
ointment of the Charlie Kirk
assassination narrative comes from none
other well than this little peach.
A lot of people think, you know, they're
all the same. Mexicans and blacks are
all the same. They're not.
Black people will like kill you for no
reason. Mexicans have gang violence, but
it's mostly kept within,
you know, the family.
So, as speculation mounts and facts just
don't add up, it seems, well, naturally,
the internet is rife with speculation
about who really pulled the trigger or,
as some might suggest, triggered the
squib that cut short Charlie Kirk's
life. Now, before we show you our
featured clip of right wing nut Nick
Fuente's scorching take on the murder of
Charlie Kirk and the questions it
raises, first here's an example of the
myriad of conspiracy theories swirling
around social media since uh you know
the Kirk memorial service looked a lot
like Wrestlemania.
[Music]
Let's check out exgrappler and current
ex poster whackadoo. Val Venus's Crazy
as a Fox take on the Charlie Kirk
shooting.
Notice the man in the military colored
outfit with his left hand on the rail.
You notice him there? Watch this
postures. He just shot Charlie Kirk,
guys. He just shot Charlie Kirk. He then
leaps the rail and you'll see him right
there running to come to Charlie Kirk's
aid. That man just murdered That man
right there just murdered Charlie Kirk.
Watch this. You can watch his left hand
on the rail. He knows the signal is
coming. You'll watch his left hand. He's
waiting for the signal. You watch him
grip that rail with all of his fingers
cuz he knows he's getting close to the
signal. Watch this. He now grips the
rail. He's going to posture his left
hand or his left arm up as he
straightens it. The right hand comes up
with the palm gun. He pulls the trigger.
There's the recoil. And Charlie Kirk is
murdered. Folks, this was a government
assassination. This is a communist
assassin right here. That man is Charlie
Kirk's assassin.
Leave it to the big Valowski. Well, he's
not the only far-right fringer, by the
way, that's raising questions about the
death of Charlie Kirk and especially its
aftermath. Now, as you're about to see
in our featured video today, well, it
comes from the Virgin Nick Fuentes. Now,
you decide. Is he seizing the social
media space that Charlie Kirk's death
has left? Or are his concerns also yours
regarding the very public assassination
of Charlie Kirk and the very public
griefstricken
Uh-huh. behavior that followed,
especially with regard to the new CEO of
Turning Point, the widow Kirk. Uh like,
share, and leave your comments below.
It's like, lady,
didn't your husband just get his face
blown off like two seconds ago? And not
to be insensitive about it, but
everyone's thinking it. No one wants to
be the No one wants to say it.
Everyone's thinking it. Everyone was
thinking it when she gave the first
speech. Everyone was definitely thinking
it at the memorial. Nobody wants to say
it because it's inappropriate. It's
insensitive.
I I am the uh the troll, right? So, I'll
be the one to say it. I think it's super
inappropriate. I think it's
inappropriate. I think it's weird. It's
bizarre. Something is off there and I
don't like it. But they're doing the
Super Bowl commentators with the
headsets on doing a media table. They're
selling merch, registering voters. They
got pyro technics.
Is this Wrestlemania or is this a
funeral? Like, what are we doing here?
And then the day after the funeral, I'm
getting 500 texts and emails. Erica Kirk
here. I miss him every time I blink,
every beat of my heart. Make sure to
donate $5, $15, $25. It's like, okay,
then they're doing a show. Did you see
the show today?
And so preient. I said it last night. I
said, I'm getting like a fake vibe. I'm
not Something's off there.
And people say, well, everybody
grieavves differently. Yeah, I don't
know how much mileage we can get out of
that one anymore. Something's not right
there.
Very bizarre, weird vibe there. And did
you see the show? Erica hosted the
Charlie Kirk show this afternoon and
she's like,
she looks like she's over the moon.
She's happy as a clam.
And again, I'm not Who am I to judge?
Everybody grieavves differently. She's a
very devout Christian. Some people say
maybe that's just strength, that's
resolve. I don't know.
It's one thing if your husband dies,
period. It's another thing if your
husband dies at age 31 unexpectedly.
Amid the ongoing chaos in this nation,
the murder of right-wing wonk Charlie
Kirk, the politicization of his death,
more mass shootings, including one at a
Mormon church. See our other videos for
more on that and Trump's disastrous
visit to the United Kingdom. One story
continues to have legs at this point.
It's a freaking centipede. In fact, I
refer, of course, to the Epstein files
and the lingering questions surrounding
Donald Trump's knowledge of or
participation in Epstein's crimes.
Earlier this month, a birthday card
surfaced that raised some incriminating
questions. We begin with the House
Oversight Committee and this image. And
our point here is not to get mired in
what might be the salacious aspects of
this, but rather to leave this up for
you to remember. If nothing else, Donald
Trump and his allies repeatedly,
publicly denied that what you see with
your own eyes here exists. This was from
the Epstein estate. It is allegedly from
and signed by Donald Trump dating back
to 2003. The body content, the word many
have used on the about it, the obvious
representation of a woman here, the
references to youth, young women, or
even underage women are all contained
here. You know, if you're a regular
viewer of our channel, and if not,
subscribe now. You know, I've mentioned
that card before. Until now, I've also
avoided pointing out the positioning of
Donald Trump's signature. Yeah, use your
imagination there. And yes, it gets even
more incriminating. So stay with me
here. Trump continues to deny writing
the card and FBI director Cash Patel has
vowed to figure out where it came from.
We'll see how that goes for him. And
then late last week, this happened.
US House Democrats have released a new
batch of documents related to Jeffrey
Epstein. And it features some big names.
Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and Steve Bunnan
are all named in copies of Epstein's
daily schedules released on Friday by
Democrats on the House Oversight
Committee. These daily schedules are
from 2014 to 2019
and show that Epstein had plans to meet
with Republican donors Elon Musk and
Peter Thiel and conservative commentator
Steve Bunnan. The schedules make
reference to Musk possibly flying to an
island in 2014 and Till and Bunnan
apparently dining with Epstein as
recently as 2017 and 2019.
Happening today, the US Supreme Court is
set to vote on whether to take up
Gileain Maxwell's appeal to overturn her
federal sex trafficking conviction. She
claims an agreement Jeffrey Epstein made
with federal authorities that shielded
him from prosecution should have covered
her as well. Maxwell is serving 20 years
in federal prison. Joining us now to
discuss this and more. CNN's chief US
Supreme Court analyst Joan Piscupic and
CNN legal analyst Carrie Cordderero.
Joan, you first. This Maxwell appeals
case is one of hundreds the justices
will be making decisions on very soon.
What does that say to you in her appeal
and what will we know if the justices
take it?
Sure. Uh, in fact, they're meeting right
now, Wolf, looking at hundreds and
hundreds of petitions were filed over
the summer. And when I say that they're
reviewing them, I'm using the word
reviewing actually quite loosely because
they get so many that they only actually
discuss around their conference table a
handful. So, we're not sure whether
they're going to just dismiss her appeal
out of hand the way they do for the vast
majority of them or whe whether they'll
grant it. And just to remind viewers of
what it involves, the nonprosecution
agreement will test whether it applies
to just the Florida district where
Jeffrey Epstein was at the time. uh or
all the country because uh Delane
Maxwell was actually prosecuted in New
York. And uh in terms of timing, we
could know as soon as the end of this
week or we could know uh in a couple
different weeks because the justices
often will stagger the results of their
conference hearing today.
Yeah, good point. Carrie, how do you see
the strength of Gileane Maxwell's case
right now and how do you expect the
justices to rule? you know, she has a
nonfrivolous argument when it comes to
uh her claim that the prosecu the
non-prosecution agreement should have
covered her. Um that's because uh as
Joan was saying, she was prosecuted in a
different district. The government is
arguing that the use of the words United
States in the nonprosecution agreement
um was was what she could uh how she was
able to uh be prosecu be prosecuted and
the Southern District of Florida was
saying that it uh covered anything. And
in what actually happened was that she
was prosecuted uh even though the
government says that the Southern
District of Florida was the one making
uh the case against her. So she um she
has an argument uh that other circuits
have disagreed about. And so in this
particular case there's a what's called
the circuit split. And so it's possible
that the court will take it up. that
there are some unusual circumstances
about her particular case uh in the fact
that she wasn't actually a party to the
agreement uh herself.
The piece begins by noting how Donald
Trump continues to push the false
narrative that left-wing violence is
responsible for most mass shootings and
political assassinations.
This framing is contrasted with a new
development coming from within the far
right itself. While Trump tries to
position the problem as being on the
left, a set of extreme right voices is
now questioning the official story
surrounding the death of conservative
activist Charlie Kirk, raising
conspiracies and speculation that cut
directly against Trump's own talking
points. The segment highlights a swirl
of conspiracy theories in right-wing
online spaces after Kirk's killing. One
example involves a viral clip posted by
a fringe internet figure claiming that a
man seen near the stage at Kirk's event
actually assassinated him, describing in
obsessive detail the man's posture, grip
on the rail, alleged hand signal, and
supposed use of a palm gun before
leaping to help Kirk. The claim frames
the killing as a government or communist
hit job rather than random violence.
Into this environment steps Nick
Fuentes, a notorious far-right
provocator. He appears to be seizing on
the space left by Kirk's death to
advance his own brand while also
expressing suspicion about what happened
and especially about the behavior of
Kirk's widow. Fuentes argues that
something feels off about how Erica
Kirk, the new CEO of Turning Point after
her husband's assassination,
has conducted herself at andar the
memorial. He notes the event looked more
like a Wrestlemania production than a
funeral with pyro technics, merch
tables, voter registration drives, and
on-air commentators.
Fuentes questions why. Just days after
her husband's public execution at age
31, Erica is smiling, hosting shows, and
sending out fundraising texts rather
than appearing griefstricken.
While he prefaces his comments with,
"Everybody grieavves differently." His
repeated remarks cast doubt on her
sincerity and feed feed the narrative
that something is being hidden. This
speculation is combined with clips of
other right-wing personalities such as
Laura Luma who have had on again
offagain relationships with fuentes.
The segment frames this as an example of
the far right eating its own turning its
conspiratorial energy inward now that
one of its most prominent figures has
been killed. By the end, the piece
suggests that what's unfolding isn't
just a battle over facts, but a struggle
for influence inside the movement. While
Trump still blames the left for
political violence, prominent figures on
his own side are generating conspiracy
theories and suspicions that undercut
his narrative, revealing a fracturing
and increasingly bizarre right-wing
ecosystem where even the deaths of their
own leaders are treated as fodder for
accusations and theatrical spectum.
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As Donald Trump continues to push the
false narrative that left-wing violence
is behind most oh every mass shooting or
political assassination,
the problem is on the left. It's not on
the right, like some people like to say,
on the right. The problem we have is on
the left.
Well, today's breaking video comes from
the far reaches of the extreme right and
the crazies who call that place home.
But what if the questions that they
raise are legit? Now, as you're about to
see uh in our featured story, well, it's
not going to make Trump or those
libtards by comparison over at Turning
Point uh dance with joy.
Uh no, today's featured fly in the
ointment of the Charlie Kirk
assassination narrative comes from none
other well than this little peach.
A lot of people think, you know, they're
all the same. Mexicans and blacks are
all the same. They're not.
Black people will like kill you for no
reason. Mexicans have gang violence, but
it's mostly kept within,
you know, the family.
So, as speculation mounts and facts just
don't add up, it seems, well, naturally,
the internet is rife with speculation
about who really pulled the trigger or,
as some might suggest, triggered the
squib that cut short Charlie Kirk's
life. Now, before we show you our
featured clip of right wing nut Nick
Fuente's scorching take on the murder of
Charlie Kirk and the questions it
raises, first here's an example of the
myriad of conspiracy theories swirling
around social media since uh you know
the Kirk memorial service looked a lot
like Wrestlemania.
[Music]
Let's check out exgrappler and current
ex poster whackadoo. Val Venus's Crazy
as a Fox take on the Charlie Kirk
shooting.
Notice the man in the military colored
outfit with his left hand on the rail.
You notice him there? Watch this
postures. He just shot Charlie Kirk,
guys. He just shot Charlie Kirk. He then
leaps the rail and you'll see him right
there running to come to Charlie Kirk's
aid. That man just murdered That man
right there just murdered Charlie Kirk.
Watch this. You can watch his left hand
on the rail. He knows the signal is
coming. You'll watch his left hand. He's
waiting for the signal. You watch him
grip that rail with all of his fingers
cuz he knows he's getting close to the
signal. Watch this. He now grips the
rail. He's going to posture his left
hand or his left arm up as he
straightens it. The right hand comes up
with the palm gun. He pulls the trigger.
There's the recoil. And Charlie Kirk is
murdered. Folks, this was a government
assassination. This is a communist
assassin right here. That man is Charlie
Kirk's assassin.
Leave it to the big Valowski. Well, he's
not the only far-right fringer, by the
way, that's raising questions about the
death of Charlie Kirk and especially its
aftermath. Now, as you're about to see
in our featured video today, well, it
comes from the Virgin Nick Fuentes. Now,
you decide. Is he seizing the social
media space that Charlie Kirk's death
has left? Or are his concerns also yours
regarding the very public assassination
of Charlie Kirk and the very public
griefstricken
Uh-huh. behavior that followed,
especially with regard to the new CEO of
Turning Point, the widow Kirk. Uh like,
share, and leave your comments below.
It's like, lady,
didn't your husband just get his face
blown off like two seconds ago? And not
to be insensitive about it, but
everyone's thinking it. No one wants to
be the No one wants to say it.
Everyone's thinking it. Everyone was
thinking it when she gave the first
speech. Everyone was definitely thinking
it at the memorial. Nobody wants to say
it because it's inappropriate. It's
insensitive.
I I am the uh the troll, right? So, I'll
be the one to say it. I think it's super
inappropriate. I think it's
inappropriate. I think it's weird. It's
bizarre. Something is off there and I
don't like it. But they're doing the
Super Bowl commentators with the
headsets on doing a media table. They're
selling merch, registering voters. They
got pyro technics.
Is this Wrestlemania or is this a
funeral? Like, what are we doing here?
And then the day after the funeral, I'm
getting 500 texts and emails. Erica Kirk
here. I miss him every time I blink,
every beat of my heart. Make sure to
donate $5, $15, $25. It's like, okay,
then they're doing a show. Did you see
the show today?
And so preient. I said it last night. I
said, I'm getting like a fake vibe. I'm
not Something's off there.
And people say, well, everybody
grieavves differently. Yeah, I don't
know how much mileage we can get out of
that one anymore. Something's not right
there.
Very bizarre, weird vibe there. And did
you see the show? Erica hosted the
Charlie Kirk show this afternoon and
she's like,
she looks like she's over the moon.
She's happy as a clam.
And again, I'm not Who am I to judge?
Everybody grieavves differently. She's a
very devout Christian. Some people say
maybe that's just strength, that's
resolve. I don't know.
It's one thing if your husband dies,
period. It's another thing if your
husband dies at age 31 unexpectedly.
Amid the ongoing chaos in this nation,
the murder of right-wing wonk Charlie
Kirk, the politicization of his death,
more mass shootings, including one at a
Mormon church. See our other videos for
more on that and Trump's disastrous
visit to the United Kingdom. One story
continues to have legs at this point.
It's a freaking centipede. In fact, I
refer, of course, to the Epstein files
and the lingering questions surrounding
Donald Trump's knowledge of or
participation in Epstein's crimes.
Earlier this month, a birthday card
surfaced that raised some incriminating
questions. We begin with the House
Oversight Committee and this image. And
our point here is not to get mired in
what might be the salacious aspects of
this, but rather to leave this up for
you to remember. If nothing else, Donald
Trump and his allies repeatedly,
publicly denied that what you see with
your own eyes here exists. This was from
the Epstein estate. It is allegedly from
and signed by Donald Trump dating back
to 2003. The body content, the word many
have used on the about it, the obvious
representation of a woman here, the
references to youth, young women, or
even underage women are all contained
here. You know, if you're a regular
viewer of our channel, and if not,
subscribe now. You know, I've mentioned
that card before. Until now, I've also
avoided pointing out the positioning of
Donald Trump's signature. Yeah, use your
imagination there. And yes, it gets even
more incriminating. So stay with me
here. Trump continues to deny writing
the card and FBI director Cash Patel has
vowed to figure out where it came from.
We'll see how that goes for him. And
then late last week, this happened.
US House Democrats have released a new
batch of documents related to Jeffrey
Epstein. And it features some big names.
Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and Steve Bunnan
are all named in copies of Epstein's
daily schedules released on Friday by
Democrats on the House Oversight
Committee. These daily schedules are
from 2014 to 2019
and show that Epstein had plans to meet
with Republican donors Elon Musk and
Peter Thiel and conservative commentator
Steve Bunnan. The schedules make
reference to Musk possibly flying to an
island in 2014 and Till and Bunnan
apparently dining with Epstein as
recently as 2017 and 2019.
Happening today, the US Supreme Court is
set to vote on whether to take up
Gileain Maxwell's appeal to overturn her
federal sex trafficking conviction. She
claims an agreement Jeffrey Epstein made
with federal authorities that shielded
him from prosecution should have covered
her as well. Maxwell is serving 20 years
in federal prison. Joining us now to
discuss this and more. CNN's chief US
Supreme Court analyst Joan Piscupic and
CNN legal analyst Carrie Cordderero.
Joan, you first. This Maxwell appeals
case is one of hundreds the justices
will be making decisions on very soon.
What does that say to you in her appeal
and what will we know if the justices
take it?
Sure. Uh, in fact, they're meeting right
now, Wolf, looking at hundreds and
hundreds of petitions were filed over
the summer. And when I say that they're
reviewing them, I'm using the word
reviewing actually quite loosely because
they get so many that they only actually
discuss around their conference table a
handful. So, we're not sure whether
they're going to just dismiss her appeal
out of hand the way they do for the vast
majority of them or whe whether they'll
grant it. And just to remind viewers of
what it involves, the nonprosecution
agreement will test whether it applies
to just the Florida district where
Jeffrey Epstein was at the time. uh or
all the country because uh Delane
Maxwell was actually prosecuted in New
York. And uh in terms of timing, we
could know as soon as the end of this
week or we could know uh in a couple
different weeks because the justices
often will stagger the results of their
conference hearing today.
Yeah, good point. Carrie, how do you see
the strength of Gileane Maxwell's case
right now and how do you expect the
justices to rule? you know, she has a
nonfrivolous argument when it comes to
uh her claim that the prosecu the
non-prosecution agreement should have
covered her. Um that's because uh as
Joan was saying, she was prosecuted in a
different district. The government is
arguing that the use of the words United
States in the nonprosecution agreement
um was was what she could uh how she was
able to uh be prosecu be prosecuted and
the Southern District of Florida was
saying that it uh covered anything. And
in what actually happened was that she
was prosecuted uh even though the
government says that the Southern
District of Florida was the one making
uh the case against her. So she um she
has an argument uh that other circuits
have disagreed about. And so in this
particular case there's a what's called
the circuit split. And so it's possible
that the court will take it up. that
there are some unusual circumstances
about her particular case uh in the fact
that she wasn't actually a party to the
agreement uh herself.
The piece begins by noting how Donald
Trump continues to push the false
narrative that left-wing violence is
responsible for most mass shootings and
political assassinations.
This framing is contrasted with a new
development coming from within the far
right itself. While Trump tries to
position the problem as being on the
left, a set of extreme right voices is
now questioning the official story
surrounding the death of conservative
activist Charlie Kirk, raising
conspiracies and speculation that cut
directly against Trump's own talking
points. The segment highlights a swirl
of conspiracy theories in right-wing
online spaces after Kirk's killing. One
example involves a viral clip posted by
a fringe internet figure claiming that a
man seen near the stage at Kirk's event
actually assassinated him, describing in
obsessive detail the man's posture, grip
on the rail, alleged hand signal, and
supposed use of a palm gun before
leaping to help Kirk. The claim frames
the killing as a government or communist
hit job rather than random violence.
Into this environment steps Nick
Fuentes, a notorious far-right
provocator. He appears to be seizing on
the space left by Kirk's death to
advance his own brand while also
expressing suspicion about what happened
and especially about the behavior of
Kirk's widow. Fuentes argues that
something feels off about how Erica
Kirk, the new CEO of Turning Point after
her husband's assassination,
has conducted herself at andar the
memorial. He notes the event looked more
like a Wrestlemania production than a
funeral with pyro technics, merch
tables, voter registration drives, and
on-air commentators.
Fuentes questions why. Just days after
her husband's public execution at age
31, Erica is smiling, hosting shows, and
sending out fundraising texts rather
than appearing griefstricken.
While he prefaces his comments with,
"Everybody grieavves differently." His
repeated remarks cast doubt on her
sincerity and feed feed the narrative
that something is being hidden. This
speculation is combined with clips of
other right-wing personalities such as
Laura Luma who have had on again
offagain relationships with fuentes.
The segment frames this as an example of
the far right eating its own turning its
conspiratorial energy inward now that
one of its most prominent figures has
been killed. By the end, the piece
suggests that what's unfolding isn't
just a battle over facts, but a struggle
for influence inside the movement. While
Trump still blames the left for
political violence, prominent figures on
his own side are generating conspiracy
theories and suspicions that undercut
his narrative, revealing a fracturing
and increasingly bizarre right-wing
ecosystem where even the deaths of their
own leaders are treated as fodder for
accusations and theatrical spectum.
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Openminded Reporter
Oct 6, 2025 #CharlieKirkAssassination #IsraelFreaksOut #USGeneralRevealsTruth
There’s PANIC inside Tel Aviv and Washington tonight as new revelations tear apart the official story behind Charlie Kirk’s shocking assassination; for weeks the mainstream media buried the truth — but now insiders, investigators, and even a U.S. General have dropped evidence that changes everything.
New reports suggest the shooter was much closer than the official story claims; forensic inconsistencies, missing autopsy reports, and a suspicious FBI cover-up are now fueling explosive questions about what really happened and who wanted Charlie silenced.
Leaked audio from Utah officials shows no autopsy was ever performed — an unprecedented breach of protocol in a homicide investigation — while investigators describe ballistics that don’t match the alleged weapon, pointing toward an orchestrated setup.
In this deep dive, we break down how the evidence ties back to Israel’s covert operations, the hidden connections between U.S. intelligence circles and Tel Aviv’s shadow networks, and the disturbing parallels with previous assassinations buried under “national security.” Was this a lone-wolf attack, or something far darker?
Transcript
The odd thing, right? When you look at
this, watch how this gun kind of
configures.
Deescalate the situation verbally before
ever even having to take a shot. Here's
how it works. It consists of two main
parts. These two parts bend by a hinge
in the middle at an approximate 60°
angle to allow for the operator to shoot
around corners and barriers from a
concealed position using a camera system
to see where the gun is pointed.
For nearly a month now, I have held back
from saying anything about the brutal
assassination of Charlie Kirk. Partly
because of the confusion that surrounded
the narrative and the need to let the
dust settle so the truth could surface.
But now the pieces are finally coming
together. The evidence is tightening and
Israel's dirty fingerprints are showing
clearly across this story. Reports
emerging from investigators suggest that
the shooter may have been much closer to
Charlie that day than anyone was told.
perhaps even one of his own security
details or someone with a concealed
weapon nearby and not a distant gunman
as the mainstream version insists.
All right. So you see where the gun is
pointed. Now the other thing is too the
Glock is sitting in there once it's
clasped into there. When you flip that
thing up like this here underneath, I
should say, right? When you have it
flipped, let's say this is like that,
and it's flipped up underneath there,
you now have the ejection part of the
gun caught between where the barrel is
sticking through and maybe that little
flap of the tent. Maybe the tent's kind
of like this, kind of pushed out because
they've got that barrel pushed in there
just enough, but now it's allowing the
ejection for the shell casing to fall
through. And they probably did not
consider that. So when they put that gun
in there, they fired that thing, but
they didn't consider what that the fact
that the casing is going to fall to the
inside of the tent. They never expected
that their shell casing was going to be
visual
to everyone else standing around
watching this. So when Colen picked that
up yes the other day and he catch
catches that shell casing
falling down.
Right here we go. We're going to pick
that up again.
By the way, that's where it closes up
at. That's that part that I show I we
were sitting there back and forth and
Cole was looking at on his side. I was
looking on my side. So just slow it down
and look at it. There goes that shell
casing. See it right there? Perfect
shell casing. Chris Martinson made an
excellent point on this which aligns
perfectly with the video evidence from
the scene showing why the bullet
trajectory and impact don't fit the
official story. The way the body moved,
the way the crowd reacted, it all
screams proximity, not distance. After
his argument, I'll play you the footage
and break down what I think happened.
Like this video now to fight YouTube
suppression and subscribe if you haven't
already so they don't bury this report
in the algorithm. Take a listen. Look,
we were presented a a scenario very
quickly that there was a lone shooter
and we had that grainy potato cam
footage of somebody jumping off a roof
and and it was established very quickly
that there was one person that we were
looking for. Also, that gave us the
shooting scene. So, they really uh
presented us with that right away that
there was this one spot. It's a spot is
about 140 yards away. There was indents
in the roof. We can calculate all kinds
of things from that. But to get to your
point, where that shot was allegedly
taken from with the weapon allegedly
used, which is a 306,
the wound is entirely inconsistent with
that weapon in that spot. Uh, it really
just couldn't have happened exactly like
they said. So, what was the shot? The
shot was taken from here. It would have
come in. This is a a still taken from
Charlie's left just from a video just
before the shot rang out. You can see
he's a little slouched. He's a little
slouched. And that red dotted line is
transsecting his throat about where the
wound appeared and at a 10° angle. And
here at this angle, that wound
trajectory is going to miss. It's not
going to hit any bones whatsoever. Um,
this is a still taken right after he was
shot. This is the wound we see right
here. I think there's a little blood on
the t-shirt there. This would be his
center line where the spine would be
located. So, at a 10° angle, without
considering the other off-axis angle,
this thing is coming down and it's going
to skip. It's going to there's no bones
in the way here whatsoever. Um, he went
right into what's called a pugilus pose
immediately. So, the right hand, you can
see, is clenched in that. It's called a
decorticate posturing position. It
speaks to a neuronal damage at about the
midbrain. Um, and so that's a pretty
common thing you see with people. If
they really fall and hit their head
hard, particularly from the back, they
can go into that pose very quickly. It
tells us something though, very
important, which is that he still has
the nerves are still intact. Because if
you ever get your spinal column
completely transected, you just go limp.
You go completely there's no muscle tone
possible. So, this tells us something
that he still has neuronal connection at
least through what's called the C8
nerve, the cervical, the eighth nerve.
Uh, it's still it's intact. Um, this is
kind of what an entrance wound would
look like. They're very small. This is
an exit wound. This is from a deer. You
know, it's passing through about 12 in
of of deer body here. Just to reinforce
the idea that that wound we saw in the
front confused a lot of people because
it didn't look like an entrance wound.
Now, we'll take it a little bit further.
If this is the 10 degree downs slope,
this person's hunched over a little bit.
I think in the exact same posture as
Charlie, close as we can. Um, h
theoretically, maybe if the wound was
lower than we thought for some reason,
you could maybe encounter the top of the
first rib. But here, we would expect
this bullet if it did to go up this way.
As well, we have that other 10° angle
where this would again would be
perfectly orthogonal coming straight in.
This is the neck which is smaller than
the head obviously. Here's the wound. So
at a 10° angle this thing is this bullet
would have gone straight through about 5
in of human neck and it would have
completely missed the spine over here
which is the thing that you would have
to hit something really hard with a 300
6. Even if it was kind of a lowend low
lower velocity 3006 uh soft point
mushrooming you know hunting tip you're
still it's going to be hard to to hit
anything and make it bounce. The spine
itself is got a pretty rigorous bone
right in the body of the spine itself,
but most of it's made of these really
kind of wimpy things. Um, tubacles and
and these spinous processes. This
posterior tubacle, this would have been
the thing that would have been on the
side of Charlie's neck. That would have
been the only bone that could have
possibly been in the way slightly at a
10° angle. Here we can see cross-section
of a human neck at about the C7 level,
which is where that round came in. And
it would have come in here, made this
hole, obviously completely transsected
the jugular vein, probably done a lot of
damage to the corateed vein as well,
just because of the explosive
mushrooming that happens and the
cavitation. But as you can see, this
would have gone straight through
basically nothing. This is a very easy
through and through round. This is not
there's really no bones in the way. And
the way ballistics works is is bullets
go in a straight line until and unless
something acts on them.
Utah law mandates that every homicide
must undergo a full autopsy with
toxicology, wound mapping, and
ballistics testing to rule out
manipulation or hidden causes. Yet,
leaked emergency dispatch audio now
reveals that no autopsy was ever done on
Kirk's body. Instead, a hospital doctor
simply signed the death certificate and
moved on. an unbelievable breach of
procedure for a political assassination,
confirmed by multiple sources, including
podcaster Hustleb, who played the clip,
saying he did not go in for an autopsy.
The death certificate was signed by the
doctor at the hospital. That kind of
bypass is unheard of, and it effectively
destroys the primary line of physical
evidence, the body itself. Conspiracy
analysts argue that this reeks of a
federal cover up with reports that FBI
agents pressured Utah officials to close
the case quickly and avoid deeper
forensic scrutiny. If it were truly a
lone shooter, there'd be no reason to
rush. Transparency would clear doubts
and rebuild trust. But secrecy like this
only protects those with something to
hide. possibly insiders within law
enforcement or intelligence networks who
viewed Charlie as a liability after his
relentless criticism of establishment
figures and foreign entanglements.
Emerging testimony from insiders,
including a mortician's analysis leaked
through independent channels, describes
Kirk's wounds as inconsistent with a
single direct shot. Investigator Ian
Carol claims an autopsy source mentioned
that Kirk's chest was caved in from a
ricochet, not a straight line bullet,
meaning the projectile likely bounced
off a nearby surface before impact,
which implies a second shooter position
or a carefully staged misdirection to
create confusion. This fits perfectly
with Steven Gardner's breakdown, citing
mismatched ballistics and incompatible
firing angles that don't align with the
alleged weapon or Robinson's location. a
textbook setup that frames a convenient
scapegoat while the real operators walk
free. If this is true, then we're
looking at a professional hit masked as
a lonewolf tragedy, echoing the
suspicious pattern seen in the 2024
Trump assassination attempt where Thomas
Matthew Crook's body was cremated in
record time, eliminating crucial
evidence before full investigation. And
now we see the same script playing out
again. No official radiology released,
no forensic images, contradictory claims
about bullet recovery, an entry wound in
the neck, but no exit and silence from
the authorities. This kind of pattern
doesn't happen by accident. Its
coordination, its concealment, its
control, and it points to forces that
wanted Charlie Kirk silenced permanently
before his next expose could land. Thank
you for watching. Support this work by
liking and subscribing to help push it
past the censorship barrier. Until next
time, God bless you.
Openminded Reporter
Oct 6, 2025 #CharlieKirkAssassination #IsraelFreaksOut #USGeneralRevealsTruth
There’s PANIC inside Tel Aviv and Washington tonight as new revelations tear apart the official story behind Charlie Kirk’s shocking assassination; for weeks the mainstream media buried the truth — but now insiders, investigators, and even a U.S. General have dropped evidence that changes everything.
New reports suggest the shooter was much closer than the official story claims; forensic inconsistencies, missing autopsy reports, and a suspicious FBI cover-up are now fueling explosive questions about what really happened and who wanted Charlie silenced.
Leaked audio from Utah officials shows no autopsy was ever performed — an unprecedented breach of protocol in a homicide investigation — while investigators describe ballistics that don’t match the alleged weapon, pointing toward an orchestrated setup.
In this deep dive, we break down how the evidence ties back to Israel’s covert operations, the hidden connections between U.S. intelligence circles and Tel Aviv’s shadow networks, and the disturbing parallels with previous assassinations buried under “national security.” Was this a lone-wolf attack, or something far darker?
Transcript
The odd thing, right? When you look at
this, watch how this gun kind of
configures.
Deescalate the situation verbally before
ever even having to take a shot. Here's
how it works. It consists of two main
parts. These two parts bend by a hinge
in the middle at an approximate 60°
angle to allow for the operator to shoot
around corners and barriers from a
concealed position using a camera system
to see where the gun is pointed.
For nearly a month now, I have held back
from saying anything about the brutal
assassination of Charlie Kirk. Partly
because of the confusion that surrounded
the narrative and the need to let the
dust settle so the truth could surface.
But now the pieces are finally coming
together. The evidence is tightening and
Israel's dirty fingerprints are showing
clearly across this story. Reports
emerging from investigators suggest that
the shooter may have been much closer to
Charlie that day than anyone was told.
perhaps even one of his own security
details or someone with a concealed
weapon nearby and not a distant gunman
as the mainstream version insists.
All right. So you see where the gun is
pointed. Now the other thing is too the
Glock is sitting in there once it's
clasped into there. When you flip that
thing up like this here underneath, I
should say, right? When you have it
flipped, let's say this is like that,
and it's flipped up underneath there,
you now have the ejection part of the
gun caught between where the barrel is
sticking through and maybe that little
flap of the tent. Maybe the tent's kind
of like this, kind of pushed out because
they've got that barrel pushed in there
just enough, but now it's allowing the
ejection for the shell casing to fall
through. And they probably did not
consider that. So when they put that gun
in there, they fired that thing, but
they didn't consider what that the fact
that the casing is going to fall to the
inside of the tent. They never expected
that their shell casing was going to be
visual
to everyone else standing around
watching this. So when Colen picked that
up yes the other day and he catch
catches that shell casing
falling down.
Right here we go. We're going to pick
that up again.
By the way, that's where it closes up
at. That's that part that I show I we
were sitting there back and forth and
Cole was looking at on his side. I was
looking on my side. So just slow it down
and look at it. There goes that shell
casing. See it right there? Perfect
shell casing. Chris Martinson made an
excellent point on this which aligns
perfectly with the video evidence from
the scene showing why the bullet
trajectory and impact don't fit the
official story. The way the body moved,
the way the crowd reacted, it all
screams proximity, not distance. After
his argument, I'll play you the footage
and break down what I think happened.
Like this video now to fight YouTube
suppression and subscribe if you haven't
already so they don't bury this report
in the algorithm. Take a listen. Look,
we were presented a a scenario very
quickly that there was a lone shooter
and we had that grainy potato cam
footage of somebody jumping off a roof
and and it was established very quickly
that there was one person that we were
looking for. Also, that gave us the
shooting scene. So, they really uh
presented us with that right away that
there was this one spot. It's a spot is
about 140 yards away. There was indents
in the roof. We can calculate all kinds
of things from that. But to get to your
point, where that shot was allegedly
taken from with the weapon allegedly
used, which is a 306,
the wound is entirely inconsistent with
that weapon in that spot. Uh, it really
just couldn't have happened exactly like
they said. So, what was the shot? The
shot was taken from here. It would have
come in. This is a a still taken from
Charlie's left just from a video just
before the shot rang out. You can see
he's a little slouched. He's a little
slouched. And that red dotted line is
transsecting his throat about where the
wound appeared and at a 10° angle. And
here at this angle, that wound
trajectory is going to miss. It's not
going to hit any bones whatsoever. Um,
this is a still taken right after he was
shot. This is the wound we see right
here. I think there's a little blood on
the t-shirt there. This would be his
center line where the spine would be
located. So, at a 10° angle, without
considering the other off-axis angle,
this thing is coming down and it's going
to skip. It's going to there's no bones
in the way here whatsoever. Um, he went
right into what's called a pugilus pose
immediately. So, the right hand, you can
see, is clenched in that. It's called a
decorticate posturing position. It
speaks to a neuronal damage at about the
midbrain. Um, and so that's a pretty
common thing you see with people. If
they really fall and hit their head
hard, particularly from the back, they
can go into that pose very quickly. It
tells us something though, very
important, which is that he still has
the nerves are still intact. Because if
you ever get your spinal column
completely transected, you just go limp.
You go completely there's no muscle tone
possible. So, this tells us something
that he still has neuronal connection at
least through what's called the C8
nerve, the cervical, the eighth nerve.
Uh, it's still it's intact. Um, this is
kind of what an entrance wound would
look like. They're very small. This is
an exit wound. This is from a deer. You
know, it's passing through about 12 in
of of deer body here. Just to reinforce
the idea that that wound we saw in the
front confused a lot of people because
it didn't look like an entrance wound.
Now, we'll take it a little bit further.
If this is the 10 degree downs slope,
this person's hunched over a little bit.
I think in the exact same posture as
Charlie, close as we can. Um, h
theoretically, maybe if the wound was
lower than we thought for some reason,
you could maybe encounter the top of the
first rib. But here, we would expect
this bullet if it did to go up this way.
As well, we have that other 10° angle
where this would again would be
perfectly orthogonal coming straight in.
This is the neck which is smaller than
the head obviously. Here's the wound. So
at a 10° angle this thing is this bullet
would have gone straight through about 5
in of human neck and it would have
completely missed the spine over here
which is the thing that you would have
to hit something really hard with a 300
6. Even if it was kind of a lowend low
lower velocity 3006 uh soft point
mushrooming you know hunting tip you're
still it's going to be hard to to hit
anything and make it bounce. The spine
itself is got a pretty rigorous bone
right in the body of the spine itself,
but most of it's made of these really
kind of wimpy things. Um, tubacles and
and these spinous processes. This
posterior tubacle, this would have been
the thing that would have been on the
side of Charlie's neck. That would have
been the only bone that could have
possibly been in the way slightly at a
10° angle. Here we can see cross-section
of a human neck at about the C7 level,
which is where that round came in. And
it would have come in here, made this
hole, obviously completely transsected
the jugular vein, probably done a lot of
damage to the corateed vein as well,
just because of the explosive
mushrooming that happens and the
cavitation. But as you can see, this
would have gone straight through
basically nothing. This is a very easy
through and through round. This is not
there's really no bones in the way. And
the way ballistics works is is bullets
go in a straight line until and unless
something acts on them.
Utah law mandates that every homicide
must undergo a full autopsy with
toxicology, wound mapping, and
ballistics testing to rule out
manipulation or hidden causes. Yet,
leaked emergency dispatch audio now
reveals that no autopsy was ever done on
Kirk's body. Instead, a hospital doctor
simply signed the death certificate and
moved on. an unbelievable breach of
procedure for a political assassination,
confirmed by multiple sources, including
podcaster Hustleb, who played the clip,
saying he did not go in for an autopsy.
The death certificate was signed by the
doctor at the hospital. That kind of
bypass is unheard of, and it effectively
destroys the primary line of physical
evidence, the body itself. Conspiracy
analysts argue that this reeks of a
federal cover up with reports that FBI
agents pressured Utah officials to close
the case quickly and avoid deeper
forensic scrutiny. If it were truly a
lone shooter, there'd be no reason to
rush. Transparency would clear doubts
and rebuild trust. But secrecy like this
only protects those with something to
hide. possibly insiders within law
enforcement or intelligence networks who
viewed Charlie as a liability after his
relentless criticism of establishment
figures and foreign entanglements.
Emerging testimony from insiders,
including a mortician's analysis leaked
through independent channels, describes
Kirk's wounds as inconsistent with a
single direct shot. Investigator Ian
Carol claims an autopsy source mentioned
that Kirk's chest was caved in from a
ricochet, not a straight line bullet,
meaning the projectile likely bounced
off a nearby surface before impact,
which implies a second shooter position
or a carefully staged misdirection to
create confusion. This fits perfectly
with Steven Gardner's breakdown, citing
mismatched ballistics and incompatible
firing angles that don't align with the
alleged weapon or Robinson's location. a
textbook setup that frames a convenient
scapegoat while the real operators walk
free. If this is true, then we're
looking at a professional hit masked as
a lonewolf tragedy, echoing the
suspicious pattern seen in the 2024
Trump assassination attempt where Thomas
Matthew Crook's body was cremated in
record time, eliminating crucial
evidence before full investigation. And
now we see the same script playing out
again. No official radiology released,
no forensic images, contradictory claims
about bullet recovery, an entry wound in
the neck, but no exit and silence from
the authorities. This kind of pattern
doesn't happen by accident. Its
coordination, its concealment, its
control, and it points to forces that
wanted Charlie Kirk silenced permanently
before his next expose could land. Thank
you for watching. Support this work by
liking and subscribing to help push it
past the censorship barrier. Until next
time, God bless you.
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Re: Charlie Kirk Murder and TPUSA Insider Gossip
by admin » Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:12 am
People shocked to learn Charlie Kirk’s father’s little-known connection to Donald Trump. Charlie Kirk's family reportedly had a link to Donald Trump way before the two became political allies
by Madison Burgess
Tyla.com
Published 16:34 23 Sep 2025 GMT+1
https://www.tyla.com/news/charlie-kirk- ... 7-20250923
It's been revealed that Charlie Kirk's father had a little-known link to none other than Donald Trump himself.
Now, it's no secret that 31-year-old Kirk was a huge fan of the US president and Republican party, but it turns out the connection actually goes back another generation.
The Kirk family were actually tied to Trump, years before the podcaster became famous for his right-wing political views and became publicly allied to the president.
But before we get into that, a reminder for those who aren't up to speed - Kirk was shot dead on 10 September while speaking to a crowd at a university event in Utah.
Just two days later, authorities confirmed they had arrested a suspect, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, who has since been charged with seven counts, including aggravated murder.
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People are just now finding out there's a link between Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk's father Robert (Mark Wilson/Getty images)
And on Sunday (21 September), the world watched on as thousands of Americans turned up to State Farm Stadium in Arizona for a high-profile memorial service, attended by Trump, JD Vance, and other political figures.
Trump said during his tribute: "He’s a martyr now for America’s freedom.
"I know I speak for everyone here today when I say that none of us will ever forget Charlie. And neither now will history."
But, what most people didn't know, is that Kirk's father, Robert W. Kirk, was an architect who helped design Trump Tower - the US president's New York City skyscraper.
Trump Tower, which was built in 1984 and was once the tallest all-glass structure in New York City, houses 263 residences as well as a shopping space and several restaurants and bars.
According to PrimeTimer, Robert graduated with a Bachelor of Architecture from the University Oregon in 1976 and the last decades of his career have included senior roles in architectural firms.
But a standout highlight of his career was his reported role as a project architect manager on Trump Tower, creating a link between the families way before his son got involved in politics.
The publication reported that other notable work of Robert's included the Tropicana Hotel and Casino, located in Atlantic City.
Eventually, Robert allegedly became the General Manager of Operations and Chief Design Architect for his own firm.
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Trump and Kirk's widow Erika both delivered speeches at his funeral on Sunday (Win McNamee/Getty Images)
Meanwhile, Kirk's mother Kathryn was a trader at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and later worked as a mental health counsellor, reports the Independent.
They both stayed out of the spotlight while their son was rapidly rising to fame.
Kirk also left behind his wife Erika, who he tied the knot with in 2021, and their two young children - a daughter born in August 2022 and a son born in May 2024.
During his funeral, Erika, who has been appointed Turning Point USA's new CEO, said in the midst of her grief, she was finding comfort that her husband left this world without regrets.
She also said she 'forgives' the man who is charged with killing him.
"My husband, Charlie, he wanted to save young men, just like the one who took his life," Erika said. "I forgive him."
by Madison Burgess
Tyla.com
Published 16:34 23 Sep 2025 GMT+1
https://www.tyla.com/news/charlie-kirk- ... 7-20250923
It's been revealed that Charlie Kirk's father had a little-known link to none other than Donald Trump himself.
Now, it's no secret that 31-year-old Kirk was a huge fan of the US president and Republican party, but it turns out the connection actually goes back another generation.
The Kirk family were actually tied to Trump, years before the podcaster became famous for his right-wing political views and became publicly allied to the president.
But before we get into that, a reminder for those who aren't up to speed - Kirk was shot dead on 10 September while speaking to a crowd at a university event in Utah.
Just two days later, authorities confirmed they had arrested a suspect, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, who has since been charged with seven counts, including aggravated murder.
[x]
People are just now finding out there's a link between Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk's father Robert (Mark Wilson/Getty images)
And on Sunday (21 September), the world watched on as thousands of Americans turned up to State Farm Stadium in Arizona for a high-profile memorial service, attended by Trump, JD Vance, and other political figures.
Trump said during his tribute: "He’s a martyr now for America’s freedom.
"I know I speak for everyone here today when I say that none of us will ever forget Charlie. And neither now will history."
But, what most people didn't know, is that Kirk's father, Robert W. Kirk, was an architect who helped design Trump Tower - the US president's New York City skyscraper.
Trump Tower, which was built in 1984 and was once the tallest all-glass structure in New York City, houses 263 residences as well as a shopping space and several restaurants and bars.
According to PrimeTimer, Robert graduated with a Bachelor of Architecture from the University Oregon in 1976 and the last decades of his career have included senior roles in architectural firms.
But a standout highlight of his career was his reported role as a project architect manager on Trump Tower, creating a link between the families way before his son got involved in politics.
The publication reported that other notable work of Robert's included the Tropicana Hotel and Casino, located in Atlantic City.
Eventually, Robert allegedly became the General Manager of Operations and Chief Design Architect for his own firm.
[x]
Trump and Kirk's widow Erika both delivered speeches at his funeral on Sunday (Win McNamee/Getty Images)
Meanwhile, Kirk's mother Kathryn was a trader at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and later worked as a mental health counsellor, reports the Independent.
They both stayed out of the spotlight while their son was rapidly rising to fame.
Kirk also left behind his wife Erika, who he tied the knot with in 2021, and their two young children - a daughter born in August 2022 and a son born in May 2024.
During his funeral, Erika, who has been appointed Turning Point USA's new CEO, said in the midst of her grief, she was finding comfort that her husband left this world without regrets.
She also said she 'forgives' the man who is charged with killing him.
"My husband, Charlie, he wanted to save young men, just like the one who took his life," Erika said. "I forgive him."
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Re: Charlie Kirk Murder and TPUSA Insider Gossip
by admin » Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:12 am
Charlie Kirk leaked text confirms he was livid about 'bullying' Jewish donors: 'I'm leaving pro-Israel cause'
by Phillip Nieto, US Political Reporter
Daily Mail
Published: 15:33 EDT, 7 October 2025 | Updated: 17:11 EDT, 7 October 2025
Charlie Kirk furiously criticized 'bullying' Jewish donors and said he was considering 'leaving the pro-Israel cause' before his death, it was confirmed today.
The bombshell revelation comes after Candace Owens released a screenshot of Kirk fuming in a group chat that Jewish donors were pulling funding over his links to Tucker Carlson.
Turning Point spokesman Andrew Kolvet confirmed the authenticity of the screenshots on Tuesday during the latest episode of The Charlie Kirk Show.
https://x.com/villgecrazylady/status/1975602283728830610?s=46
In the text messages, Kirk privately complained that a Jewish donor had withdrawn a $2 million investment into the organization because he refused to disinvite Carlson from the upcoming AmericaFest event.
'Just lost another huge Jewish donor,' Kirk wrote. '$2 million a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting Candace.'
'Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this.'
Kirk concludes: 'Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause.'
The Daily Mail has reached out to Turning Point for comment.
Kirk first met his wife Erika in Israel shortly before their romance began
Kirk claims in the text message that a 'Jewish donor' had pulled a $2 million yearly donation to Turning Point USA because Tucker Carlson was invited to speak at event
Owens claims that the screenshots were sent by Kirk two days before he was assassinated while speaking to a group of students at Utah Valley University. Kolvet did not confirm that time frame.
Days after Kirk was murdered, Carlson told his audience that two days before his death a major donor had pulled money from the organization because of Kirk's refusal to disinvite him to this year's Americafest conference set for December.
Owens, who has gone viral in the weeks since for floating baseless conspiracy theories about Kirk's death, is a vocal critic of Israel and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
The FBI arrested Tyler Robinson, 22, as the prime suspect in Kirk's murder shortly after the attack. If found guilty for the murder, Robinson could face the death penalty in the state of Utah.
Back in September, Carlson also revealed that Kirk had often expressed negative views on Netanyahu.
'He did not like Bibi Netanyahu and he said that to me many times and he said to people around him many times. He felt that Bibi Netanyahu was a very destructive force,' Carlson said.
Carlson said that Kirk's criticism of Netanyahu centered around the Turning Point leader's belief that the United States was being used to fight wars on behalf of Israel.
The former Fox News host added that 'there was a small, very intense group who tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died.'
Candace Owens released the text message exchange during her YouTube show on Monday night. By Tuesday afternoon, Turning Point spokesman Andrew Kolvet confirmed the screenshot is real
Candace Owens released the text message exchange during her YouTube show on Monday night. By Tuesday afternoon, Turning Point spokesman Andrew Kolvet confirmed the screenshot is real
The revelation surrounding Kirk's newfound criticism of Israel comes as a shock because the 31-year-old was seen as one of the leading evangelical supporters of Israel in the conservative movement.
Kirk often traveled to Israel for religious and political events years prior to his death. Moreover, Kirk first met his wife Erika in Israel before their romance began.
Kolvet, who was one of Kirk's closest confidantes, noted that he was aware of the text messages sent by Kirk, but chose not to share it publicly 'because it was a private exchange… I wanted to not betray my friend's trust.'
The Turning Point spokesman also revealed that soon after Kirk's assassination he shared these text messages with government officials because he wanted to leave 'no stone unturned.'
by Phillip Nieto, US Political Reporter
Daily Mail
Published: 15:33 EDT, 7 October 2025 | Updated: 17:11 EDT, 7 October 2025
Charlie Kirk furiously criticized 'bullying' Jewish donors and said he was considering 'leaving the pro-Israel cause' before his death, it was confirmed today.
The bombshell revelation comes after Candace Owens released a screenshot of Kirk fuming in a group chat that Jewish donors were pulling funding over his links to Tucker Carlson.
Turning Point spokesman Andrew Kolvet confirmed the authenticity of the screenshots on Tuesday during the latest episode of The Charlie Kirk Show.
https://x.com/villgecrazylady/status/1975602283728830610?s=46
In the text messages, Kirk privately complained that a Jewish donor had withdrawn a $2 million investment into the organization because he refused to disinvite Carlson from the upcoming AmericaFest event.
'Just lost another huge Jewish donor,' Kirk wrote. '$2 million a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting Candace.'
'Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this.'
Kirk concludes: 'Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause.'
The Daily Mail has reached out to Turning Point for comment.
Charlie Kirk
Just lost another huge Jewish donor. $2 million a year because we won't cancel Tucker I'm thinking of inviting Candace
3:49 PM
Ugghhh
3:50 PM
Charlie Kirk
Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this.
3:54 PM
Please don't invite Candace. That might feel good short term but it's not good long term, in my opinion. Like all groups, you're going to get wide variety of opinions. That nasty free will thing that God bestowed on us makes life frustrating at times.
***
Before his death, Kirk complained about how 'Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes' and that he had 'no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause'
Kirk first met his wife Erika in Israel shortly before their romance began
Kirk claims in the text message that a 'Jewish donor' had pulled a $2 million yearly donation to Turning Point USA because Tucker Carlson was invited to speak at event
Owens claims that the screenshots were sent by Kirk two days before he was assassinated while speaking to a group of students at Utah Valley University. Kolvet did not confirm that time frame.
Days after Kirk was murdered, Carlson told his audience that two days before his death a major donor had pulled money from the organization because of Kirk's refusal to disinvite him to this year's Americafest conference set for December.
Owens, who has gone viral in the weeks since for floating baseless conspiracy theories about Kirk's death, is a vocal critic of Israel and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
The FBI arrested Tyler Robinson, 22, as the prime suspect in Kirk's murder shortly after the attack. If found guilty for the murder, Robinson could face the death penalty in the state of Utah.
Back in September, Carlson also revealed that Kirk had often expressed negative views on Netanyahu.
'He did not like Bibi Netanyahu and he said that to me many times and he said to people around him many times. He felt that Bibi Netanyahu was a very destructive force,' Carlson said.
Carlson said that Kirk's criticism of Netanyahu centered around the Turning Point leader's belief that the United States was being used to fight wars on behalf of Israel.
The former Fox News host added that 'there was a small, very intense group who tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died.'
Candace Owens released the text message exchange during her YouTube show on Monday night. By Tuesday afternoon, Turning Point spokesman Andrew Kolvet confirmed the screenshot is real
Candace Owens released the text message exchange during her YouTube show on Monday night. By Tuesday afternoon, Turning Point spokesman Andrew Kolvet confirmed the screenshot is real
The revelation surrounding Kirk's newfound criticism of Israel comes as a shock because the 31-year-old was seen as one of the leading evangelical supporters of Israel in the conservative movement.
Kirk often traveled to Israel for religious and political events years prior to his death. Moreover, Kirk first met his wife Erika in Israel before their romance began.
Kolvet, who was one of Kirk's closest confidantes, noted that he was aware of the text messages sent by Kirk, but chose not to share it publicly 'because it was a private exchange… I wanted to not betray my friend's trust.'
The Turning Point spokesman also revealed that soon after Kirk's assassination he shared these text messages with government officials because he wanted to leave 'no stone unturned.'
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Re: Charlie Kirk Murder and TPUSA Insider Gossip
by admin » Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:13 am
TPUSA RESPONDS: Yes, The Text Messages Are Real. | Candace Ep 249
Candace Owens
10/8/25
Turning Point responds to the release of the group chat messages, X has a meltdown, and a Turning Point donor publishes a touching letter regarding me.
Transcript
All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. I got to tell you something. Twitter or X, it hasn't really been that fun in a
really long time. I think Elon Musk clearly gave it away to the military and we now have to suffer these military bot
farms calling for war with Iran. But last night, the platform was
exceptional. It was amazing. The tears that were being shed all over the place. I mean, I I really picked out the best
responses to me dropping the text messages. It was hilarious. Anyway,
TurningPoint USA has responded to the release of the messages, so we are going to watch that. Spoiler alert, they were
real, of course. And on top of that, Turning Point USA donor has published a
public letter regarding me, and I was truly touched by it, and I think you will be, too. So, I want to share that.
Welcome back to Candace.
[Music]
X has a meltdown and TPUSA addresses the text messages.
My little sister called me this morning and she was like, "Candice, your podcast right now is like the show Succession on
HBO." You guys, you guys know this show which is about how all of the heirs and
supposed to be kind of fashioned after Rupert Murdoch's throne, all the siblings are fighting one another to see
who will it be, who will it be that gets this empire. That really made me chuckle. I think that should be our new
show intro. [Music]
Yes, yes, yes. Who will succeed? Charlie Kirk. Who shall inherit the Turning
Point throne? You know what, you guys? The best part of all of this for me is unlike those illbegotten heirs on the
show, I have a 0% interest in Charlie's empire. I am not motivated by the idea
of carrying on his torch. Not for a single moment did I think any person could carry on his torch. Uh if you
thought you could, you clearly did not know Charlie Kirk. Charlie was in fact an anomaly in the system. It happened to
rarely. And uh yeah, I don't know that I will live to see another person like him. I want you guys to know something.
I want to share this with you. You can take it or you can leave it, but Charlie was betrayed. I know this uh I I've
known this really since the first second, but I rarely have vivid dreams
and I did in fact have a very vivid one over the weekend. In fact, the last time that I I had a super vivid dream, I was
pregnant. Tends to happen a lot uh to women when they're pregnant. But in that dream from 2023, my former producer of
the show and I uh were standing in the control room and she told me that she
was 26 weeks pregnant. This is in the dream. and she told me exactly what month the baby was coming. I asked her
in the dream, "Is it a boy? Is it a girl?" And she said, "It's a boy." I woke up and I immediately texted my
producer in real life and I said, "Hey, you're pregnant. Just so you know, it's a boy." And then she found out that she
was pregnant one week later. She had no idea when I texted her and it's something that we reflected on a couple of months later because she was just
totally shocked looking back on it. And this is our our our text chain uh from you can see 2023. She said, "You texted
me June 16th and I think I got pregnant June 26th. This is crazy. And it's going
to be a boy. It's nuts." I said, "I'm telling you, your baby visited me. It was an insanely vivid dream. He was on
his way." And she said, "That is so bizarre." My mom also texted me that week saying that she had a dream I was pregnant. I said, "I haven't had a dream
that vivid since. It's been my only vivid dream this entire pregnancy. I believe people can communicate in dreams
on their way in and on their way out of this world. I similarly, like I just said, had a
vivid dream this weekend and Charlie came to me and he told me that he was
betrayed. And so for me, you don't have to believe that, but I do believe that.
And uh it was the immediate sense I got actually and I don't know who exactly it
is that betrayed him but I also felt in the dream that it is soon going to be revealed that it's actually inevitable
that it is going to be revealed that there is nothing and no one that is going to stop the truth from coming out and it is going to have international
consequences. Take that to the bank. Quote me on that. Women tend to have a stronger intuition
about people. I would say I think uh it was the writer producer Conrad Flynn
that recently went on to Tucker Carlson's show and he discussed that discussed that phenomenon in the context
of the persecution of Christ. He's talking about Pontious Pilot's wife warning him not to persecute Jesus. Take
a listen to that portion of their conversation. And if you look at Pontius Pilot, Pontious Pilot, you know, he he wants to
set uh he at some point he flips and he's like, you know, this guy is innocent. My wife is having dreams about
this man. That's another thing that's underreported in history. Um wife as wife as soothsayer slashdreamer. I mean,
you your wife has many times been like, I have a bad feeling about this guy, Tucker. Don't have him on your show. And and and her intuition is such that you
even though there's no necessarily hard evidence, you know, it's your wife's take on stuff. You don't ignore it. But
that's I have ignored it. Um and it's you're like I've never actually never listened to that.
I No, I mean I've been married 34 years as of Saturday and it's like a joke in
my house. You know, I told you he was bad. I don't know. He's hilarious. You seem like a good guy to me. You know
that's hilarious. Yeah. So you'd be the Pontious Pilot where she's like you don't arrest this man. I had a dream.
And you're like whatever. I'm doing my work right now. I'm very shallow. So, someone's someone who's amusing or fun to have dinner
with, you know, I just get swept away. I like that guy. You know what I mean? You're like, "Braabis was amazing on
that podcast. I got I got to have I got to have him on. He's he's fantastic." Um, that's actually really funny because I'm
recapping conversations that I've had with Tucker where I'm like, I don't know why you trust that person at all. He's obviously a bad guy. He's like, "Really?
I like him, but I had really nice dinner with him." Anyways, obviously what they're accurately describing, but I
should say especially between a husband and a wife and definitely my relationship with my husband, I can say
that from almost the very moment that I learned that Charlie was not going to make it, I said to George through tears
that he was betrayed. And now we're all just sort of on this journey to find out by who. So, I released a text message
yesterday, dropped it on the world, and it caused, and this is putting it mildly, a lot of panic. As I said, the
chatter on X was top tier. Emphasis on the tier because there were a lot of
them being shed by everyone who was discounting me. She's this, she's that, she's lying. Charlie never changed his
mind. He was committed to Israel to the day he died. In fact, he almost died for Israel. That was the vibe they were
putting down. And I was getting angrier and angrier and angrier, but self-control always pays off. There were
moments on X where people were after this text message was revealed almost like bargaining like, "Please, this
can't be real. Let me show you." They were making fake messages themselves. This is how easy it is to make a fake
message that this cannot be real. They were accusing, deluding themselves uh
into believing whatever was necessary for them not to accept the reality that I was telling the truth. Of course, I was telling the truth. Here's just a few
um of my favorites. Um this is village crazy lady who I love, Mel. Uh who was
responding to an absurdity that was being presented by Ashton Forbes. Mel said, "These losers are down so bad
right now that they are literally using their own attack lines for defense. Ashton Forbes wrote, he's been
absolutely maniacal. First off, Candace has no credibility. Second, there's a bunch of Telegram group chat scams that
claim to be real people. I was briefly in touch with one Elon Musk. Oh, really?
You were in touch with Elon Musk on Telegram? Third, if you discount the text messages between Tyler Robinson and
his trans furry lover, you cannot take these at face value. Lastly, even if the
text messages were real, they mean literally nothing related to Charlie's death. I find it scary how Candace is
building a literal cult. Soon they'll be drinking Kool-Aid in sync with I don't
even know if that says 31 Atlas to be sent to heaven. I think that might be a cult actually. That's how I'm not I'm
not in a cult at all. So much I don't even recognize was probably a very big cult's name. And uh I love that Mel
replies and says, "Bro, if I got scammed in a Telegram group chat by Elon Musk, quote unquote, I'd take that ish to my
grave." Britta uh you can see she's also replying he was replying to Britta no
soup for nullles if you want to bring that right back up. She wrote and by the way she used to work for Seth Dylan. So
this is the usual chatter a group of people. She wrote is Candace posting fake group chat screenshots to
conveniently back up her narrative that Charlie was dropping the pro-Israel cause and inviting Candace to the TPU
stage. I'm just asking questions. All fair. We allow questions. We even allow
diagnoses. We're all We're chill. We're on the side of truth. We are so chill. Li Laura Loomer, who is legally just,
you know, not allowed to own a gun because she's a literal lunatic, had the
nerve to post this about me when somebody called her out. Morgan Ariel said, "Laura Loomer hasn't made a single
post about Candace Owens reporting on Charlie Kirk's group messages. We all know she's the first to run her mouth,
and she wrote because I don't give an f about Candace Owens and her postpartum psychotic rants." Even if those texts
are real, it still does not mean that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. I never said that. Candace Owens makes content for
low IQ people who don't understand how criminal investigations work. It's going to be hilarious when she is sued by TV
USA in addition to Mcronone's wife. Yes. Bankrupt her for telling the truth. Do
it. Do it. Bankrupt her. Yeah. When you are down bad, just like Mel says, when
they're really down bad, nothing is left, you just sue. Anyways, back to how
unhinged just chatter was on X. Generally speaking, I laughed out loud.
Everybody uses the term blitzkrieg. Even and the NFL football team say Blitzkrieg. Yes, it relates um back to
Germany. It's a bombardment strategy. So that's why we use it when you're going to bombard. And so I called it Blitzgree
egg week because we're just dropping a bunch of bombs. And Britta decided to
take that literally. She said Candace thinks it's cute to use Nazi terminology
and make a turning point pun while she incites further harassment of TPUSA
employees by implicating them in Charlie's death. It's a sick game for her. And out of nowhere, Megan Kelly
needs to stop making excuses for this vile behavior. I have no idea while why
why Megan Kelly is being just abused. It's like people just get drunk and beat Megan Kelly when they get home. I don't
know what is happening and why she's being dragged into anything that I say, but it's exceptional that they're now
looking. They're so desperate that German words. You can't even say a blitz
means lightning. Cre means war. Last I checked, people are still allowed to
speak German. And last I check everybody uses the terminology blitz. Litz cre
Washington Post certainly does when they're describing things that's happening at the White House. But now
this is how desperate they are for um anything grasping at straws. Nick Fuentes, our uh uh routine federal
informant wrote writes this um why did she sit on this for four weeks and then
censor the other names? Just grasping at straws. Just grasping at straws here. And we follow that up by taking a a stab
at Charlie Kirk who's dead. Charlie Kirk said he had no choice to lead the pro-Israel cause because a Jewish donor stopped giving him millions of dollars.
What a coincidence. He had his great epiphany about Israel after they stopped paying him to shill. Speaking of paying
people to shill, it's why I didn't take one minute or one sentence rather of him uh trying to uligize Charlie Kirk
seriously because that right there is the real Nick Fuentes. The Quartering jumped in. He says a serious question.
Let's assume the text are real and that Charlie was 100% serious and not just being sarcastic, which is totally
possible. What exactly does this prove? Think before you reply. What does it prove other than someone close to him
was fine leaking his texts? That's been their new talking point. How dare you leak text messages?
And finally, this is just funny, so we're going to show you this community notes for the win. Uh, the misfit
patriot writes, "I will give Candace every single shekele. Israel has paid me for my posts if she can prove those text
messages are real. Update says community notes. Andrew Kovette confirmed the screen grab was real. Of course, it was
real." What I mean, I would have to be the dumbest person ever. First off, I'm
not even inclined towards tech, but also would have to be an absolute a to
try to figure out how to manufacture text messages for the purpose of releasing them to then probably get sued
by every person that was not in the chat. Like, I'm just like, "Hey, Josh Hammer received this message." That'd be
so dumb. But like I said, these people were desperate for it not to be real because they've been lying so hard about
everything. They just been lying and they have some egg on their face now. And reality hit them pretty quickly this
morning when Andrew Kovette, Turning Point's spokesperson, confirmed that the
messages were in fact real. He did this on the Charlie Kirk show. And actually, I don't think it's dramatic to state
that this may be the first respectable measure taken by Turning Point USA
executives since the passing of Charlie Kirk. Like the first respectable response. And yeah, I thought that that
was I I will I will compliment that. Just the action of Andrew Kovette addressing it headon instantly was good.
So let's hear Andrew Kovette in his own words. But I want to take the start of this show to address some of the things that
have been going around on public, namely about a text, a group text chain that has been made known uh and released uh
by Candace Owens. And I just want to address it headon because uh you know
that was a text grab a screen grab that I had shared uh with people. So it it is
authentic and I want to go into it because I actually am really excited that the the truth is out there. I first
want to say the reason I have I didn't share that screen grab publicly is because it was a private it was a
private exchange and I felt like it didn't necessarily comport with things that were already public. I wanted to
not betray my friend's trust in that way. But I did share it with some people in government because it happened really
quick. It was, you know, it took 33 hours for authorities to get their suspect. And in that first, in those
first moments, we wanted no stone unturned. We wanted to leave nothing unturned. So, I shared it with a few
people. Don't know where it went from there, apparently. Uh, but here we are. So,
one of the reasons, Blake, that I'm glad to have this now public, it was not mine
to share publicly, but you know, one of the criticisms we've been we've received is that we don't care. We're not
investigating every lead. We're not looking under every stone. And that somehow we're just like, you know,
sweeping things under the rug. And when I say that we want justice for Charlie more than anybody else, I really mean
it. And no stone unturned. I mean, I I don't know if you want to chime in on that part alone, but I have more to say.
Yeah, I So, it's it has been so frustrating to have people blow up about this. And, you know, we've stated I've
certainly stated publicly the reason I haven't weighed in on things is I am an eyewitness to events and they've said
don't comment on things because anything you say can mess that up. I don't want to mess up any trial for the person who
did this. That's a thousand% right. And and I will say I wasn't an eyewitness. I was not there. I flew to Utah immediately uh to
be with the family and the team, but I was not an eyewitness. So, there's that. But I am aware that in my role as
spokesman for Turning Point USA, which is another hat I wear, that things I say I'm cognizant of the fact that things I
say could negatively impact an ongoing investigation. All right. But I will weigh in specifically on this this issue
of Israel because I know there's a lot of fascination. And I just want to say that,
you know, we have to let free speech be our northstar here. Okay? Charlie was
adamantly free speech and I am not personally going to impugn anybody's character who is asking questions and
looking for answers. All right? And I will say that that text chain is consistent with public frustrations that
he voiced many times. And I know Blake, you were in the trenches on a lot of this stuff because we were workshopping
how we were going to do the tour and what we was, you know, he's going to get asked about Israel, what was he going to say? And this is consistent with things
that he told his friends, people that are, you know, in the in the water wider movement about his wrestle that he was
going. And so I just want to say like what is the truth about the way Charlie felt about Israel? Well, it's complicated and it's nuanced and it was
a wrestle that was going on for months and it's probably somewhere between the BB letter and the text.
So, what do we think? Okay, obviously you can tell he's anxious. Uh you can tell he's he's nervous speaking about
this. I am sure it was positively frantic at Turning Point USA yesterday. I am sure he had very little sleep and
like I say, never the fun thing to be the spokesperson and also to be involved in the story. I can tell you right off
the bat he is telling the truth. Uh he was not the person who shared that message with me. Uh he also should know
that he was not the only person who sent that message and sent messages around. So there are a lot circulating uh some
videos that are circulating and uh yeah that's he's being honest about that portion. I personally as someone who
knows Andrew Kov I want to I want to express how I feel. I hold it against him actually that he didn't share it
with me. He knew I cried on the phone with Andrew. He knew how I was feeling. And then I went under a a very well, you
could say a blitzkrieg, right? A a heavy bombardment from people who he knows
hated Charlie, who tried to stop Charlie. Uh people who had no issues showing up to his memorial. I mean,
really gross stuff who were attacking me. And he could have at least provided some cover. Now, I'm I'm not saying that
I need help, but sometimes it's nice to offer somebody a lifeboat when they're being attacked for telling the truth,
right? Uh so, I would do want to say that also, I'm glad that Andrew responded correctly because I was I was
going to say this when Blake's like, "Well, you know, the investigation's ongoing." That text message has nothing to do with an investigation whatsoever.
Uh it has to do with the broader question of people feeling that Charlie's legacy is intentionally being
hijacked by Israel. I never stated that Israel killed Charlie. Anybody that's been watching this investigative series,
we've come up. I mean, there hasn't even been an Israeli name that has popped up in this investigation. There's only been one Jewish person, I think, that's
popped up thus far in this investigation, which is George Zinn, Decoy Boy. So, they're just saying that
they're just saying that. I just wanted to say that he was under a tremendous amount of pressure. Now, regarding uh
the other things that are circulating that have not been publicized yet and people should know that there is an
underground movement of truth tellers in this moment. Okay? There is an underground movement of knights all
around the world from mom sleuths to government employees like he said to personal assistants to turning point USA
donors who are working together to bring justice to Charlie because we don't like the way this feels. You just don't like
the way it feels. The vibes are off. I will respect even though obviously that statement was prepared. I will respect
the fact that Andrew says what Charlie would have said and for the first time I feel that's been expressed that we have
to let free speech be our north star. And I'm not so sure that the people some
of the people that were donating to Turning Point USA believe that. In fact, I'm certain some of them don't believe
that. Obviously, we wouldn't have that text message if they all believed that. And that is what I think is has been so
frustrating is that it seems as though the executives would rather, and I'm now referring to Tyler Ber, impugn the
character of the people who are doing exactly what Charlie Kirk would have done. So please, Andrew, make sure that
Tyler Boyer and Alex Clark get the internal memo about free speech.
I want to say one more thing rather explosively. Three people told me off record, two
people who have this in a written communication from Charlie, uh, one who
is a Turning Point USA donor and I would say very much one of the white knights in this.
The very day before Charlie Kirk died, he expressed that he thought he was
going to be killed. He told these people, "I think they're going to kill me." Okay? He had not
expressed that to me. So I am telling you this based off the testimony of three people and I am saying this
because I hope that these people who I think are good will be inspired to come forward with that. Now again those
conversations I had were off record. I honor that. If I say it's off record it stays off record. But I'm hoping that
watching what I am doing and feeling the energy that is rising across the world for people who want to know what the
heck happened on 910 that you know they will be brave and they will say yeah
Charlie did the day before he died think that he was going to be killed and maybe tell us who is they for once and for all
who is they who is the they that he thought was were going to kill him. Now, to answer to give the obvious answer to
federal informant Nick Fuentes's question, the reason that I waited to reveal the text messages is because I'm not a child. Okay? Like I said, I have a
lot more. I'm I'm not an idiot and I have self-control and I understand that
time is always going to be on the side of truth. Time is on the side of truth. Liars know that that's the reality.
Liars know that they have to speak quickly, that they have to speak repeatedly. And I wanted the world to
truly understand just exactly what it is that we are up against. Okay? People
that I deem to be mentally and spiritually evil. Okay? Evil in the true
essence of the word evil. People who knowingly lied, instantly lied, repeatedly lied, and continued to do so
without a trace of shame. Okay? Without a trace of shame. I mean that, right? I
I really do mean it when I say that you have to be someone that is or maybe
rather someone that is possessed by something that is less than human
subhuman to do that. There's no there's no humanity in you. That is why I named
Josh Hammer. I believe he is a deeply disturbed man. Think about that now that
you have those messages. Okay, let's put this in the context. Just a few hours before I dropped that text chain, Josh
Hammer was, you know, was concerning himself with what he's been doing uh since Charlie caught the bullet in his
neck. He has been spreading lies, saying that Charlie never flinched on Israel.
Right. Charlie never flinched. Oh my god, these people like get there lying 48 hours before Josh Hammer was on that
text thread. And that did not stop him from keeping up the propagandist effort
when he went on a show yesterday before I dropped the messages and said this.
Charlie was a was was a close friend of mine as you know. We actually spoke literally the night before his tragic
and untimely death. I was on a small Zoom call with him and a couple others. We we were literally talking through this topic. I I was giving Charlie
advice for how to message on this issue on his forthcoming campus tour. you know, he kind of jokingly mentioned to
me, he was like, "Josh, I'm going to mention your book, Israel and Civilization, and it's so good." And that was literally our last conversation. It's just it's just so
tragic. This letter that he wrote to the prime minister, Chris, I read back in June or
July or so. And there were so many people in the aftermath of his horrific assassination, Candace Owens, folks like
that who were saying that, "Oh, Charlie was turning on Israel. He was ready to sell them out and renounce his his
life's work of of sincere and genuine friendship to the Jewish people and the Jewish state. But this letter that he
wrote to BB Netanyahu, Chris literally begins. The first sentence of the letter is I'm paraphrasing here, but it's a
close paraphrase. As a Christian, one of my greatest joys in life is making friendships with the Jewish people and
defending the state of Israel. That's literally the opening sentence of this letter.
Filth. Okay. absolute filth. I I don't
understand it. I can't comprehend it. I this whatever that is that lives in him does not live in me. There was no truth
in him. Obviously, there was no truth in Josh Hammer. He could have said what Charlie was going through 48 hours
earlier. Yeah. He he didn't he refused to do that.
In fact, I'm quite alarmed with what I know that there are three
people who said uh that Charlie communicated 24 hours before he died that he thought they were going to kill
him. Now, I find it rather alarming that Josh Hammer is similarly saying, "Oh, the night before." So, you spoke to him
the night before. Did he communicate that to you, Josh Hammer? Did he? I'm
interested. I know we won't get answers from you, but let me promise you that if
I get a text message to the effect that you were somehow involved in him feeling anxiety the day before, if you did
something that gave him anxiety in that way, I will release it instantly. there
will be no place that you can hide. Anyways, I want you guys to know that I
was feeling so inspired by Josh Hammer's utter lack of human decency that I went
ahead this week and sent around a life insurance policy of sorts of sorts, a
package rather to people that I trust. A package filled with text messages, emails, private communications, videos,
and private legal documents. So if anything happens to me, you guys will know exactly who it is that has been
making my life a living hell over the past couple of years. People that are trying to bankrupt me, trying to
bankrupt me and my family that are threatening us to sue us. Everything that Kanye said was so real.
Okay, I'm
now at that point where you look back and you go, man, Kanye was right. He was really saying something about what it
takes to leave, you know, to fight for custody of your own soul. Just leave me
alone. Let me say what I believe and you say what you believe. Fight fair. Why do you always have to make this threat to
bankrupt people? And I want you to know that those people, if anything happens to me, they have my explicit permission
to release it all. Detonate it all. Expose all of these people in politics
and in the movement who behave like this behind the scenes. It's necessary. And I highly recommend
every single person that is out there that has a platform and is going through things and is scared do the same. send
everything around to about eight people that you trust. And I mean, I I've ranged it. I sent it to journalists,
text messages, and screenshots to people ranging from Max Blumenthal to Andrew Tate. They won't know where it's coming
from. It will be everywhere. I want to remind you guys uh in the wake of all of
this that it is so important to keep trusting our guts. We have been proven
right so many times in the recent past, right? Whether we're speaking about COVID, people that had to actually take
a stance before people were then suddenly government, oh admit, oh yeah, we were lying. We were lying about this.
We were lying about that. We feel it all right now. The feds are lying. That is beyond obvious. Which is why I was very happy to hear uh former Navy Seal Rob O'Neal explain this plainly when he went
on Piers Morgan's show the other day. Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
You just have to laugh. The soliloquy of
the text messages that 22 year-olds do not send their lovers. Yes, that's kind
of the main point, guys. We have been working off a a lot of tips and so much more is going to be exposed and we're
going to get into that more tomorrow. I do want to give you a quick update on Lance Twigs and like I said, uh we know
that the feds are lying to us. The question is why are the feds lying to us? The answer is always the same. The
feds only lie to cover their own tracks. They are protecting themselves and their
bosses. Who are their bosses? Who is they?
Let me tell you guys something very interesting about this investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder. We don't feel I don't think the majority of people in the world feel
that we know what happened and I want you guys to know that we have not for a single second ceased our investigation.
Right? What actually happened on 9/10? We don't know. And we are still working
through a ton of the tips related to what happened. Uh,
but I want to tell you that I maintain I actually believe that this was a
military hit that involved foreign actors and also literal actors. I
believe that that day ran uh something akin to JFK's assassination. I believe
that there were therefore multiple decoys on the ground. I do not believe,
just so I'm clear here, that the person who was walking up the stairs killed Charlie. In fact, my suspicion is that
that photo was not even shot on the same day. I do not believe that the person who ran across Lozi rooftop killed
Charlie. I think it was another decoy. I do not believe that shot came from a Lozi Center at all. And I obviously, we
all know that decoy George Zin didn't kill Charlie. And I received an
interesting tip about him as well that he's much more connected than what meets the surface. He potentially has
connections to the federal department, familial connections to the federal department. And we are proddding that.
It's getting interesting. Anyway, uh that would suggest that there are thus for a total of four decoys like George
Zinn, staircase guy, maroon shirt guy, and Lozi center guy. None of which I
believe actually pulled the trigger. Call it a hunch. I think it's much more likely that Lance Twigs is the one that
is walking in that maroon shirt. His build is nothing like Tyler Robinson's build. Uh Lance Twigs is thinner. Uh and
obviously I'm speculating here, but I believe Tyler Robinson was involved and he was in fact driving around campus on
that day, therefore assisting in the costume changes, likely picking up
clothing. And as we broke the story, uh Tyler was seen at Dairy Queen and what
was he seen doing? As I told you, dumping clothing in the cemetery beside
that Dairy Queen. So I think that is what his involvement is limited to. That was his job. Uh to get rid of clothing.
Uh it's completely a nonsense to think that a person who had never killed anyone was high on adrenaline after a
kill and decided to eat Dairy Queen. That doesn't even make sense biologically speaking. There was going to be an adrenaline measure that kicks
in after you kill a animal, yet alone a person, yet alone having it be your
first kill. And you're like, he just decided to go to DQ. Sit down, write some poetic text messages. It's why they
are freaking out about that Dairy Queen leak because it disrupts their narrative. One of many things that
disrupts their narrative. But what about Lance Twigs, right? this
uh roommate, man. Something about him. The roommate of Tyler Robinson is I
think federally protected. I especially think that because we learned some more interesting facts about him. So, I feel
confident, or I shouldn't say completely confident, but I feel like it's okay to venture a guess that he is a federal
asset of some description. Could be related to his online work on Discord chats. It's the only thing that makes
sense to me. Anyways, I can tell you guys, I can break this for you, that the
government, and this would implicate Governor Cox and whoever else was a part of that press conference, uh, the
morning after, the 33 hours after they apprehended Tyler Robinson, the government lied when they said, uh,
Lance, you know, I'm obviously paraphrasing here, he came in peacefully. He handed over everything. I
mean, the whole depiction was like he was just so shocked his boyfriend could do something like this. And so he handed
over everything. Well, according to his family, that's just not true. According to his family,
he was raided and he was angry about that raid. And yet, he was instantly
released back into their care within 6 hours. Isn't that something? They had no
idea what was happening. They were going off of Mike, the mysterious detective Mike Mitchell's tip. They had no
confession. They have Tyler Robinson walking in uh peacefully because he doesn't want to
die. And uh you're telling me Lance Twigs, for whatever reason, you released
him immediately back into custody. No, they lied. He was not being compliant and walking in and showing them
everything. Something else that was interesting, we had told you guys that
Tyler's family thought that there could have been something weird going on with
that raid, that perhaps the feds could have been staging that apartment to fit
into their narrative. Now, the feds are staging this entire operation. So, that would follow that if you're trying to
get a conviction, you got to be like, "And we found this in his house." The note underneath the keyboard. So
convenient. But he destroyed it. He took a picture of it, but then he destroyed it cuz if everybody knows if you want to destroy something so it never sees a
light of day, he took a picture of it so it lives forever in the iCloud. Anyways, uh we were told by Lance's
family that who by the way own the apartment that the two of them lived in
that Tyler and Lance lived in. We were told that somebody illegally changed their locks on the home following the
raid. Obviously illegal. They were not informed that the locks were being changed. So, it gives us two options. It
was either Lance or it was the feds. I was wondering like, you know, if
you're Lance and you really got swept up in this and you're so shocked that Tyler Robinson did this,
is are you speaking to your family about that? My gosh. I'd imagine you want to speak to your family. No. No. It seems
uh Lance has similarly been in an unknown known location since the raid. I
would imagine he was in witness protection for a bit, but he doesn't he doesn't need family. He feels I would
say that suggests that he's pretty arrogant right now in this moment. He's not fearful of anything. Like I said,
the sense I am getting is we are watching a play, right? The government has us completely distracted with photos
of people who are not even the same person. I never for a second thought the person that was in the maroon shirt was
the same as the person that was walking with the limp. It's completely foolish and ridiculous.
I can also tell you something else. We received a tip which I vetted that on
the day of Charles Kush's assassination, you know, immediately George Zinn gets
up and says, "I did it. I did it. I did it." And he kind of gets dragged. Well, apparently George Zinn had to receive
medical treatment following that little fraas. And he told
multiple nurses and doctors that he did it because he was being paid to do it.
He said he had not been paid yet, but he was going to receive payment. He didn't
know from who. That's interesting.
Decoy boy told medical staff multiple apparently he was just singing
just like just telling everybody who would listen that he did it because payment was going to be promised to him
if he did do it. What does that tell us? We should definitely dig into George Zinn. We should definitely try to
confirm uh this relatively strong tip that he has connections to the feds
because it would be very interesting if the feds were going to pay George. I'm not saying they are. Uh but yeah, why
why wouldn't he know? I mean, make that make sense. Why wouldn't George Zin know where the payment was coming from?
Yeah. Anyways, you guys, we are on the case. I wanted to share that with you. as some other explosive things that we
have found out that the feds have not shared. Other people that they were questioning that they did not share. People that
similarly have been told to be quiet about everything. And let's be clear, they are not asking everyone to be
silent because they are seeking a conviction against Tyler Robinson. They
are telling everybody to be silent because they don't want to get caught. The feds are covering their own tracks.
John & Irina Mappin's touching letter.
All right, guys. Guys, I want to pivot here and I I want to read you something. Well, now I want to be I want to be
perfectly clear that despite all appearances over the last two weeks, it
has been a very difficult time for me. Uh obviously, normally when I'm covering a story, I'm bombastic and I feel brave
and focused because I am speaking about someone that has nothing to do with me. This has been particularly challenging
because I had and I still am very much grieving Charlie and waking up to the
realization that not everyone is grieving him in the same way that he may have just been a political pawn to so
many people that he loved deeply. I mean it it I'm going to be honest even Donald Trump's non-reaction not making any
demands um for truth regarding this investigation deeply upsets me. deeply
upsets me because I know how much Charlie Kirk loved Donald Trump. Uh, so I was just so I was happy. It brought
literal tears to my eyes when a donor from Turning Point USA, a donor that
actually then unlocked a whole another level of donations for Charlie Kirk
through introductions that he made for Charlie and a donor who it's it's ironically this is the very donor that
when I said to Charlie, "We need to be in the UK. We need to be in the UK." and he was like, "Well, I know somebody uh who I could maybe have set up an event.
We can start Turning Point UK." And that event was when I first laid eyes on George. Not when I spoke to him, but when I actually first laid eyes on him.
Uh that donor issued a public statement. And uh I think he will be the first of
many donors that might make a public statement. And he made this statement in
my favor. This was written by him and his wife, two wonderful people, John and
Arena Mappen. Uh, I'm just going to read it because I think these words don't
just eloquently express how I'm feeling, but I think these words eloquently might express how we are all feeling
worldwide. Like I read this and I said to myself, I couldn't have written this
better myself with all the time in the world. John and Aarina Wright, Charlie
Kirk built Turning Point USA on transparency, free speech, and a relentless pursuit of truth. We are
witness to that. If Candace Owens had been assassinated, Charlie would have torn apart every lie and devoted every
working day and night to uncovering the full truth. He would not have trusted the authorities to deliver justice. He
would have demanded it from the rooftops. Charlie would not have waited for the funeral or memorial to happen.
He would have gotten to work immediately. He would have worked night and day to uncover exactly what had happened to his great friend. Consider
this. Charlie did not sleep for several days and several nights just to ensure that JD Vance became the vice
presidential nominee. And although that job was supremely important for the country and its future, it was still
ultimately simply helping to secure a job promotion. Candace is working to get to the truth of who killed Charlie Kirk
and why they did it. Charlie's execution is an assassination with potentially far-reaching political consequences for
America and the world. What we have seen so far beggars belief. a crime scene
apparently completely destroyed in days and plenty of evidence that simply does not add up. This investigation and the
truthful answer as to who was really responsible for deciding that Charlie would be executed in front of the world
will affect America's future, its collective soul and conscience forever.
The truth, when known, and we believe it will be known, will have far-reaching international consequences. The very
idea that someone could be convicted and could receive the death penalty when there remains even the slightest shadow
of doubt or shred of uncertainty that they may not be guilty of that crime and that Christian souls would tolerate that
possibility is anathema to all the teachings of Christ. If there were circumstances where a
suspect or someone standing trial for murder did not have a clean opportunity to receive the very best and fairest
legal representation to present their case and defense to the world. It would have been aborant to Charlie Kirk. It
would go against every constitutional principle that he lived, fought, and died for. Erica is in mourning. May God
bless her and her family. Please give her and her family time to grieve. Any civilized culture, Christian or
otherwise, allows a grieving widow 40 days of mourning to make peace with the Lord and to respect the departed. Those
people who truly love her would gladly grant her all the space she needs. We certainly do. But we are growing rather
sick and ashamed of seeing people criticize Candace for doing her level best to get to the bottom of and to the
truth of what happened to Charlie on that day. You don't have to agree with Candace on every subject that she addresses on her shows to acknowledge
that much of what she is presenting on the subject of Charlie's death is extremely concerning to America and to the world. Completely valid and very
relevant to the investigation. She has an army of truth seekers worldwide who are helping her in her search and her
research. This is a truly new and modern phenomenon that has never happened before. This is not 1963 and boomers
need to get used to it. In our view, the official investigation should be immediately ordered by the appropriate
legal authority to proactively share everything they know with Candace and her selected team. That is, if truth and
real understanding of who decided to assassinate Charlie and why is the sincere objective, that would go some
way towards restoring public trust in the system. It is our view that her actions are not just the actions that
any real friend would take for their friend. They are the actions of the highest order of patriotism. Candace's
actions are service to the whole country and to the world. Beyond that, they are truly providential, divinely inspired,
and metaphysical. There is a relationship between truth and all living things. There is a relationship
between truth and God. Right now, Turning Point USA is at a vital moment.
If we continue to witness the mistreatment and the suppression of a young woman and a mother of four young children who is doing everything she can
to help get to the truth about who decided that her friend and fellow freedom fighter Charlie had to die, they
will lose the country and the world and America will have lost one of its greatest living patriots only to see
those factors against which he fought and died for win. Canis's extremely valid point that hers has so far been
one of the only public voices from Charlie's closest friends questioning the absurdity of some of the
communications regarding what happened and demanding clarity is well made and frankly that point alone is shocking to
the world. We have been receiving calls from senior Republicans and from Turning Point donors who agree with her all last
week and they started up again this week. They agree with Candace, but seeing the attacks that she is experiencing, they are terrified to
voice their views publicly. Is that really where we are in 2025?
Few people following the matter believe the official version, the virgin version, a low minority believe that the
current suspect is guilty. That statistic alone is an awful commentary on the state of the official
investigation. The world wants truth. The world Charlie and those who truly loved him and knew
his purposes certainly deserve justice. But justice needs not just to be done.
It needs to be seen to be done justly. I want to read that sentence again because it's very powerful. Justice needs not
just to be done. It needs to be seen to be done justly. It must be truthful. It
must be fair. And it must be clean. If there are videos, show them. If there is evidence, show it. The world is not
going to accept anything less. This is not about who is right or wrong or whose theory is correct. Candace's
investigation is about actually getting to the truth. Whatever that truth is. If the current theory for the shooter is
truth, then okay, that is a lie. Then we need to know. Every episode of Candace's show since Charlie died from her
heartfelt emotional tribute to her exceptional journalism has been incredible. And anyone who cares for the truth and who wants to know who killed
Charlie for real should watch every episode in its sequence. The fact is that we are being told as
his friends or simply as people who had never heard of Charlie Kirk before his assassination simply does not make sense
to the vast majority. It feels like gaslighting. It feels like we are being lied to. It is not hard to tell the
truth to the public or to present the clear facts that illustrate the truth clearly. Many extremely ethical people
helped to build Turning Point in all associated groups. Turning Point Action and Turning Point Faith. Many of these
people are existing and potential future donors. We know many of them. Ethical people will not stand for lies or
injustice, either privately or publicly. The existing and future donors who were friends of Charlie's and those he loved
deserve no less. But please spare us the absurd and evil suppression of
suggesting that Candace should not be doing exactly what she is doing. She is doing no more and no less than what her friend Charlie would have done for her.
Her actions are far more reasonable and experiencable than an assassin's bullet to the throat. Consider for a moment the
evil of possibly allowing the conviction of a potentially innocent party with the death penalty. We can only begin to
imagine the wrath of God and how upset Charlie will be if an innocent man were to be executed for his assassination and
what ill fortune would befall a Christian country and the individuals that would allow this.
In this sense, Christianity and a leading Christian democracy are now on
trial. There's a special place in eternity reserved for those who would allow such an injustice. If Turning Point and
Charlie left in charge, if Turning Point and those who Charlie left in charge failed to stay true to the principles
and purposes on which Charlie founded it and with which he and Candace originally breathed life into it during its
formative years, then Turning Point will end up like MySpace. It will become just one more ineffective and rather dull has
been activity. I believe that God has other plans for Charlie and for his legacy. A cover up of the truth is not,
in my view, part of God's plans. I believe that people of goodwill from all over the world will will ensure that.
Keep going, Candace. Charlie is walking with you every step of the way. He loves you deeply, and you are right about your friendship with him. Never at any time.
Through all the challenges that the political arena and life brought, did he ever withdraw his friendship from you, Candace, you were you are an eternal
cornerstone in his life and his legacy. What a great friend you are being to him. We are all witness to that. All of our love, John and Arena. Oh, it's going
to make me cry again. It's just like I really needed it. I don't know. I just really needed it. Like it's just I feel
like I kind of went through a process where I was going like in those two weeks following
was any of it real? You know, like I when I expressed to you that I felt that Charlie's life was like the Truman Show
and then I I know that's how you guys felt because we were we were just expecting a fight. We were just
expecting a fight and instead it seems like the very things that Charlie was
fighting lies no matter what they were somehow were being platformed and allowed. So,
thank you, John. Thank you, Reena. I cried last night reading that. I almost cried on air there reading it again. I I needed it. So, anyways, you guys, I'm
going to read a couple of more sponsors and I want to get to all of your comments, some explosive things that we
will be revealing tomorrow. I'm really excited about everything. And also, I want to add to this, thank you guys, not just John and Arena, for being the first
donors that took a public stance. But before they did this, it was all of you guys at home. Truly, uh, the tags
fighting for me in the comments when I was being smeared, when they even tried to wipe away my friendship, like she hasn't spoken to him since 2015. It was
you guys. Like, you this letter is is for you. Every time he says Candace, he means all of us. All of us did this.
Comments.
All right, you guys. I'm glad I held it together. Glad I held it together reading that letter. Uh, first comment
that we have is from Jennifer. Jennifer writes, "Do we know anything about the security team that was
supposed to keep Charlie alive?" I do. I have everybody's names, the people that we couldn't identify. Uh, Jennifer
continues, "So many questions. Since the MO was out there due to Trump, why wasn't this taken into consideration?
Were drones offered and or declined? Did they do a drill run through that morning?" Amir Odum, hey, what's up?
Thank you. You have a great uh he has a great YouTube channel, Amir Odum. He writes, "Before we judge Candace for thinking that there's hidden agendas, we
have to admit history has given her every reason to." Absolutely. There are this is political politics is nasty
business. Amir, as you know, you know, you're a friend of someone who's in politics. Brett Cooper Corey Henry
writes, "Give me the Kool-Aid in a juice box." Lmo regarding Ashton Forbes cult
comment. Yeah, it was totally crazy. I don't know what I like. Yeah, maybe we're in a cult of truth. I don't know
like what what's it called? Maybe Christianity. I mean like I want to tell
the truth. So there's that. Sarah D writes, "Keep going, Candace. Love from Australia." Thank you, Sarah. Steve
writes, "A major victory in defending Charlie's true legacy. We stand with you, Candace. The truth will come out. When it does, it will shake the
foundations of the world. I believe it. You believe it. We all believe it. John and Arena believe it. Uh we feel it, you
know, like we're fighting and it it feels there's a finality to it. like this had to happen and the demons are
frantic and they're angry and I only have a platform because I keep telling
the truth. You know, if I had lied, if I had sold my soul, which many people have done, I I wouldn't have earned your
trust. And so, yeah, it comes at a cost. It certainly comes at a cost. The last
two weeks have been very hard, but it also comes at an even more amazing
reward. Justine Low writes, "As soon as you said he was betrayed, I knew it was true. My
female intuition at work brought me to tears and prayed for your safety." Thank you. He was He was RN Explorer writes,
"Thank you for fighting for the truth. I believed you from the beginning. I am crying as you read that letter. I'm glad
you cried on me because I was like, not twice in the same year am I going to be caught crying." Um but yeah, you are
laying your life and fighting for the truth for your friend. Amy writes, "Most
holy theoticus bless and protect the handmade of God, Candace and her family." Candace, so many of us in the
Orthodox Christian community are praying for you. Lord have mercy on us all. Yep.
You know, it's uh it has also been great to feel the Orthodox and the Catholic energy rising. And I and I want to be
clear. I'm not saying that as a pot shot uh to other denominations, but it feels
like for a lot of there's been a lot of persecution and a lot of this for some reason has involved, as I showed you
yesterday, you know, pastors that have been a part of this like part of spreading these lies and that is it's
not good. It's just not good to have pastors uh using the Bible to lie. It's
just not okay. Maheen Sadiki writes, "I think it would be interesting to do a deep dive into how the term
Judeo-Christian came about. I'm aware of it. It seems to be a very convenient word for Israel. I don't think any of
the core values or their views on Jesus are shared." It definitively is not. And um you know, we inherited it. We were
all in public schools. We all thought the same thing. I was working for Zionist entities. So I don't fault us
our ignorance. That is how the deception is is thick, you know, and we're finally
piercing through that layer for the first time. Will Wallace writes, "Decoy boy, please reach out to Candace's
people for the tea." Gang gang is inquiring. We feel like we know, but we
don't know now, right? I agree. Elder MJ writes, "Rooting for you from
Malaysia and praying for your safety. You are so brave. Thank you." Donna writes, "I'm not crying. You're crying,
Candace. I know you were crying. I felt the Holy Spirit in every word that you pressed today. Godspeed. And may uh the
may he bless you eternally for what you are doing. The potential sacrifice of your life and those around you. Yeah, I
think we have to be brave. And I'm a real Christian. I know this life is not it. I know it's not it. And um in fact,
people I know have intentionally been trying to convince us that this is it. so that they can further commit you uh
to their matrix to get you to agree to sell your soul, to get you to agree to lie because you're so worried about
things that are in this world. I I know that uh Charlie Charlie soul was removed
from his body and I know that he's watching and I keep that in mind when it gets hard. I keep in mind that Charlie
is watching. I know I feel um that he's with me and he's proud that somebody who
cared about him is fighting. Boredom took over, right? You are literally my spirit animal and have given me the
motivation to push forward on my dream. Charlie is so proud of you, love. Please don't give up on us and these fakes should be scared. You are the storm.
Thank you. We are the storm. Cuz I'm telling you, I could not do it without you guys. Um, and my family. They've
just been amazing. Luna writes, "Charlie also told Dr. Frank Turk right before his death when they were having a combo
about upping his security that Charlie knows quote unquote they want him dead. Frank shared this on his podcast
following Charlie's death. That makes four." Yeah. He knew. He would know. He knew he was going to be killed. Who did
he think was going to kill him? That's the question. And I'm glad to hear that Frank Turk shared that. Linda writes,
"Girl, you made me cry. God bless you. I'm praying for you." A Maria, thank you.
John and Arena made me cry. So, it's really their fault. If you ought to be angry at anybody, you can be angry at Jed Arena for writing that. It just I I
did I I felt the Holy Spirit in those words. I really did. I It's how we're all feeling. Turtle Mama writes, "I
enjoy listening to your content and I feel so at peace with the information that you share as truth. Sending prayers from Mississippi and stay safe." Thank
you so much, Turtle Mama. Uh, we're all actually doing this thing. Uh, so thank you guys for supporting me on this
journey. Thank Thank you for all of you guys that have signed up at canowens.com, bought yourself a hat, a t-shirt, joined our CIA, the
decentralized, which is more of a threat, by the way. If it's centralized, you can just whack it. If it's decentralized, it's everywhere. And
that's why I sent out that little packet to people that I trust. that I said screenshots to Max. I'm like everyone
who is threatening me behind the scenes all that stuff using lawfare to threaten
me or speech like we're now all attached. Okay, so there we go. I
recommend that everybody does that. Send it to people on the left. Send it to people on the right. Um I I love that
people on the left and right are finally coming together. Can I say that as well? Gosh, we are over time for the book
club. Hopefully people are on this so they know why we're late to the book club uh which we have tonight as we
begin this introduction to this book which they will not reprint but is a
must readad Sigman Freud and the Jewish mystical
tradition. So anyways you guys I'll see you over on kennace.com.
[Music]
Candace Owens
10/8/25
Turning Point responds to the release of the group chat messages, X has a meltdown, and a Turning Point donor publishes a touching letter regarding me.
Transcript
All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. I got to tell you something. Twitter or X, it hasn't really been that fun in a
really long time. I think Elon Musk clearly gave it away to the military and we now have to suffer these military bot
farms calling for war with Iran. But last night, the platform was
exceptional. It was amazing. The tears that were being shed all over the place. I mean, I I really picked out the best
responses to me dropping the text messages. It was hilarious. Anyway,
TurningPoint USA has responded to the release of the messages, so we are going to watch that. Spoiler alert, they were
real, of course. And on top of that, Turning Point USA donor has published a
public letter regarding me, and I was truly touched by it, and I think you will be, too. So, I want to share that.
Welcome back to Candace.
[Music]
X has a meltdown and TPUSA addresses the text messages.
My little sister called me this morning and she was like, "Candice, your podcast right now is like the show Succession on
HBO." You guys, you guys know this show which is about how all of the heirs and
supposed to be kind of fashioned after Rupert Murdoch's throne, all the siblings are fighting one another to see
who will it be, who will it be that gets this empire. That really made me chuckle. I think that should be our new
show intro. [Music]
Yes, yes, yes. Who will succeed? Charlie Kirk. Who shall inherit the Turning
Point throne? You know what, you guys? The best part of all of this for me is unlike those illbegotten heirs on the
show, I have a 0% interest in Charlie's empire. I am not motivated by the idea
of carrying on his torch. Not for a single moment did I think any person could carry on his torch. Uh if you
thought you could, you clearly did not know Charlie Kirk. Charlie was in fact an anomaly in the system. It happened to
rarely. And uh yeah, I don't know that I will live to see another person like him. I want you guys to know something.
I want to share this with you. You can take it or you can leave it, but Charlie was betrayed. I know this uh I I've
known this really since the first second, but I rarely have vivid dreams
and I did in fact have a very vivid one over the weekend. In fact, the last time that I I had a super vivid dream, I was
pregnant. Tends to happen a lot uh to women when they're pregnant. But in that dream from 2023, my former producer of
the show and I uh were standing in the control room and she told me that she
was 26 weeks pregnant. This is in the dream. and she told me exactly what month the baby was coming. I asked her
in the dream, "Is it a boy? Is it a girl?" And she said, "It's a boy." I woke up and I immediately texted my
producer in real life and I said, "Hey, you're pregnant. Just so you know, it's a boy." And then she found out that she
was pregnant one week later. She had no idea when I texted her and it's something that we reflected on a couple of months later because she was just
totally shocked looking back on it. And this is our our our text chain uh from you can see 2023. She said, "You texted
me June 16th and I think I got pregnant June 26th. This is crazy. And it's going
to be a boy. It's nuts." I said, "I'm telling you, your baby visited me. It was an insanely vivid dream. He was on
his way." And she said, "That is so bizarre." My mom also texted me that week saying that she had a dream I was pregnant. I said, "I haven't had a dream
that vivid since. It's been my only vivid dream this entire pregnancy. I believe people can communicate in dreams
on their way in and on their way out of this world. I similarly, like I just said, had a
vivid dream this weekend and Charlie came to me and he told me that he was
betrayed. And so for me, you don't have to believe that, but I do believe that.
And uh it was the immediate sense I got actually and I don't know who exactly it
is that betrayed him but I also felt in the dream that it is soon going to be revealed that it's actually inevitable
that it is going to be revealed that there is nothing and no one that is going to stop the truth from coming out and it is going to have international
consequences. Take that to the bank. Quote me on that. Women tend to have a stronger intuition
about people. I would say I think uh it was the writer producer Conrad Flynn
that recently went on to Tucker Carlson's show and he discussed that discussed that phenomenon in the context
of the persecution of Christ. He's talking about Pontious Pilot's wife warning him not to persecute Jesus. Take
a listen to that portion of their conversation. And if you look at Pontius Pilot, Pontious Pilot, you know, he he wants to
set uh he at some point he flips and he's like, you know, this guy is innocent. My wife is having dreams about
this man. That's another thing that's underreported in history. Um wife as wife as soothsayer slashdreamer. I mean,
you your wife has many times been like, I have a bad feeling about this guy, Tucker. Don't have him on your show. And and and her intuition is such that you
even though there's no necessarily hard evidence, you know, it's your wife's take on stuff. You don't ignore it. But
that's I have ignored it. Um and it's you're like I've never actually never listened to that.
I No, I mean I've been married 34 years as of Saturday and it's like a joke in
my house. You know, I told you he was bad. I don't know. He's hilarious. You seem like a good guy to me. You know
that's hilarious. Yeah. So you'd be the Pontious Pilot where she's like you don't arrest this man. I had a dream.
And you're like whatever. I'm doing my work right now. I'm very shallow. So, someone's someone who's amusing or fun to have dinner
with, you know, I just get swept away. I like that guy. You know what I mean? You're like, "Braabis was amazing on
that podcast. I got I got to have I got to have him on. He's he's fantastic." Um, that's actually really funny because I'm
recapping conversations that I've had with Tucker where I'm like, I don't know why you trust that person at all. He's obviously a bad guy. He's like, "Really?
I like him, but I had really nice dinner with him." Anyways, obviously what they're accurately describing, but I
should say especially between a husband and a wife and definitely my relationship with my husband, I can say
that from almost the very moment that I learned that Charlie was not going to make it, I said to George through tears
that he was betrayed. And now we're all just sort of on this journey to find out by who. So, I released a text message
yesterday, dropped it on the world, and it caused, and this is putting it mildly, a lot of panic. As I said, the
chatter on X was top tier. Emphasis on the tier because there were a lot of
them being shed by everyone who was discounting me. She's this, she's that, she's lying. Charlie never changed his
mind. He was committed to Israel to the day he died. In fact, he almost died for Israel. That was the vibe they were
putting down. And I was getting angrier and angrier and angrier, but self-control always pays off. There were
moments on X where people were after this text message was revealed almost like bargaining like, "Please, this
can't be real. Let me show you." They were making fake messages themselves. This is how easy it is to make a fake
message that this cannot be real. They were accusing, deluding themselves uh
into believing whatever was necessary for them not to accept the reality that I was telling the truth. Of course, I was telling the truth. Here's just a few
um of my favorites. Um this is village crazy lady who I love, Mel. Uh who was
responding to an absurdity that was being presented by Ashton Forbes. Mel said, "These losers are down so bad
right now that they are literally using their own attack lines for defense. Ashton Forbes wrote, he's been
absolutely maniacal. First off, Candace has no credibility. Second, there's a bunch of Telegram group chat scams that
claim to be real people. I was briefly in touch with one Elon Musk. Oh, really?
You were in touch with Elon Musk on Telegram? Third, if you discount the text messages between Tyler Robinson and
his trans furry lover, you cannot take these at face value. Lastly, even if the
text messages were real, they mean literally nothing related to Charlie's death. I find it scary how Candace is
building a literal cult. Soon they'll be drinking Kool-Aid in sync with I don't
even know if that says 31 Atlas to be sent to heaven. I think that might be a cult actually. That's how I'm not I'm
not in a cult at all. So much I don't even recognize was probably a very big cult's name. And uh I love that Mel
replies and says, "Bro, if I got scammed in a Telegram group chat by Elon Musk, quote unquote, I'd take that ish to my
grave." Britta uh you can see she's also replying he was replying to Britta no
soup for nullles if you want to bring that right back up. She wrote and by the way she used to work for Seth Dylan. So
this is the usual chatter a group of people. She wrote is Candace posting fake group chat screenshots to
conveniently back up her narrative that Charlie was dropping the pro-Israel cause and inviting Candace to the TPU
stage. I'm just asking questions. All fair. We allow questions. We even allow
diagnoses. We're all We're chill. We're on the side of truth. We are so chill. Li Laura Loomer, who is legally just,
you know, not allowed to own a gun because she's a literal lunatic, had the
nerve to post this about me when somebody called her out. Morgan Ariel said, "Laura Loomer hasn't made a single
post about Candace Owens reporting on Charlie Kirk's group messages. We all know she's the first to run her mouth,
and she wrote because I don't give an f about Candace Owens and her postpartum psychotic rants." Even if those texts
are real, it still does not mean that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. I never said that. Candace Owens makes content for
low IQ people who don't understand how criminal investigations work. It's going to be hilarious when she is sued by TV
USA in addition to Mcronone's wife. Yes. Bankrupt her for telling the truth. Do
it. Do it. Bankrupt her. Yeah. When you are down bad, just like Mel says, when
they're really down bad, nothing is left, you just sue. Anyways, back to how
unhinged just chatter was on X. Generally speaking, I laughed out loud.
Everybody uses the term blitzkrieg. Even and the NFL football team say Blitzkrieg. Yes, it relates um back to
Germany. It's a bombardment strategy. So that's why we use it when you're going to bombard. And so I called it Blitzgree
egg week because we're just dropping a bunch of bombs. And Britta decided to
take that literally. She said Candace thinks it's cute to use Nazi terminology
and make a turning point pun while she incites further harassment of TPUSA
employees by implicating them in Charlie's death. It's a sick game for her. And out of nowhere, Megan Kelly
needs to stop making excuses for this vile behavior. I have no idea while why
why Megan Kelly is being just abused. It's like people just get drunk and beat Megan Kelly when they get home. I don't
know what is happening and why she's being dragged into anything that I say, but it's exceptional that they're now
looking. They're so desperate that German words. You can't even say a blitz
means lightning. Cre means war. Last I checked, people are still allowed to
speak German. And last I check everybody uses the terminology blitz. Litz cre
Washington Post certainly does when they're describing things that's happening at the White House. But now
this is how desperate they are for um anything grasping at straws. Nick Fuentes, our uh uh routine federal
informant wrote writes this um why did she sit on this for four weeks and then
censor the other names? Just grasping at straws. Just grasping at straws here. And we follow that up by taking a a stab
at Charlie Kirk who's dead. Charlie Kirk said he had no choice to lead the pro-Israel cause because a Jewish donor stopped giving him millions of dollars.
What a coincidence. He had his great epiphany about Israel after they stopped paying him to shill. Speaking of paying
people to shill, it's why I didn't take one minute or one sentence rather of him uh trying to uligize Charlie Kirk
seriously because that right there is the real Nick Fuentes. The Quartering jumped in. He says a serious question.
Let's assume the text are real and that Charlie was 100% serious and not just being sarcastic, which is totally
possible. What exactly does this prove? Think before you reply. What does it prove other than someone close to him
was fine leaking his texts? That's been their new talking point. How dare you leak text messages?
And finally, this is just funny, so we're going to show you this community notes for the win. Uh, the misfit
patriot writes, "I will give Candace every single shekele. Israel has paid me for my posts if she can prove those text
messages are real. Update says community notes. Andrew Kovette confirmed the screen grab was real. Of course, it was
real." What I mean, I would have to be the dumbest person ever. First off, I'm
not even inclined towards tech, but also would have to be an absolute a to
try to figure out how to manufacture text messages for the purpose of releasing them to then probably get sued
by every person that was not in the chat. Like, I'm just like, "Hey, Josh Hammer received this message." That'd be
so dumb. But like I said, these people were desperate for it not to be real because they've been lying so hard about
everything. They just been lying and they have some egg on their face now. And reality hit them pretty quickly this
morning when Andrew Kovette, Turning Point's spokesperson, confirmed that the
messages were in fact real. He did this on the Charlie Kirk show. And actually, I don't think it's dramatic to state
that this may be the first respectable measure taken by Turning Point USA
executives since the passing of Charlie Kirk. Like the first respectable response. And yeah, I thought that that
was I I will I will compliment that. Just the action of Andrew Kovette addressing it headon instantly was good.
So let's hear Andrew Kovette in his own words. But I want to take the start of this show to address some of the things that
have been going around on public, namely about a text, a group text chain that has been made known uh and released uh
by Candace Owens. And I just want to address it headon because uh you know
that was a text grab a screen grab that I had shared uh with people. So it it is
authentic and I want to go into it because I actually am really excited that the the truth is out there. I first
want to say the reason I have I didn't share that screen grab publicly is because it was a private it was a
private exchange and I felt like it didn't necessarily comport with things that were already public. I wanted to
not betray my friend's trust in that way. But I did share it with some people in government because it happened really
quick. It was, you know, it took 33 hours for authorities to get their suspect. And in that first, in those
first moments, we wanted no stone unturned. We wanted to leave nothing unturned. So, I shared it with a few
people. Don't know where it went from there, apparently. Uh, but here we are. So,
one of the reasons, Blake, that I'm glad to have this now public, it was not mine
to share publicly, but you know, one of the criticisms we've been we've received is that we don't care. We're not
investigating every lead. We're not looking under every stone. And that somehow we're just like, you know,
sweeping things under the rug. And when I say that we want justice for Charlie more than anybody else, I really mean
it. And no stone unturned. I mean, I I don't know if you want to chime in on that part alone, but I have more to say.
Yeah, I So, it's it has been so frustrating to have people blow up about this. And, you know, we've stated I've
certainly stated publicly the reason I haven't weighed in on things is I am an eyewitness to events and they've said
don't comment on things because anything you say can mess that up. I don't want to mess up any trial for the person who
did this. That's a thousand% right. And and I will say I wasn't an eyewitness. I was not there. I flew to Utah immediately uh to
be with the family and the team, but I was not an eyewitness. So, there's that. But I am aware that in my role as
spokesman for Turning Point USA, which is another hat I wear, that things I say I'm cognizant of the fact that things I
say could negatively impact an ongoing investigation. All right. But I will weigh in specifically on this this issue
of Israel because I know there's a lot of fascination. And I just want to say that,
you know, we have to let free speech be our northstar here. Okay? Charlie was
adamantly free speech and I am not personally going to impugn anybody's character who is asking questions and
looking for answers. All right? And I will say that that text chain is consistent with public frustrations that
he voiced many times. And I know Blake, you were in the trenches on a lot of this stuff because we were workshopping
how we were going to do the tour and what we was, you know, he's going to get asked about Israel, what was he going to say? And this is consistent with things
that he told his friends, people that are, you know, in the in the water wider movement about his wrestle that he was
going. And so I just want to say like what is the truth about the way Charlie felt about Israel? Well, it's complicated and it's nuanced and it was
a wrestle that was going on for months and it's probably somewhere between the BB letter and the text.
So, what do we think? Okay, obviously you can tell he's anxious. Uh you can tell he's he's nervous speaking about
this. I am sure it was positively frantic at Turning Point USA yesterday. I am sure he had very little sleep and
like I say, never the fun thing to be the spokesperson and also to be involved in the story. I can tell you right off
the bat he is telling the truth. Uh he was not the person who shared that message with me. Uh he also should know
that he was not the only person who sent that message and sent messages around. So there are a lot circulating uh some
videos that are circulating and uh yeah that's he's being honest about that portion. I personally as someone who
knows Andrew Kov I want to I want to express how I feel. I hold it against him actually that he didn't share it
with me. He knew I cried on the phone with Andrew. He knew how I was feeling. And then I went under a a very well, you
could say a blitzkrieg, right? A a heavy bombardment from people who he knows
hated Charlie, who tried to stop Charlie. Uh people who had no issues showing up to his memorial. I mean,
really gross stuff who were attacking me. And he could have at least provided some cover. Now, I'm I'm not saying that
I need help, but sometimes it's nice to offer somebody a lifeboat when they're being attacked for telling the truth,
right? Uh so, I would do want to say that also, I'm glad that Andrew responded correctly because I was I was
going to say this when Blake's like, "Well, you know, the investigation's ongoing." That text message has nothing to do with an investigation whatsoever.
Uh it has to do with the broader question of people feeling that Charlie's legacy is intentionally being
hijacked by Israel. I never stated that Israel killed Charlie. Anybody that's been watching this investigative series,
we've come up. I mean, there hasn't even been an Israeli name that has popped up in this investigation. There's only been one Jewish person, I think, that's
popped up thus far in this investigation, which is George Zinn, Decoy Boy. So, they're just saying that
they're just saying that. I just wanted to say that he was under a tremendous amount of pressure. Now, regarding uh
the other things that are circulating that have not been publicized yet and people should know that there is an
underground movement of truth tellers in this moment. Okay? There is an underground movement of knights all
around the world from mom sleuths to government employees like he said to personal assistants to turning point USA
donors who are working together to bring justice to Charlie because we don't like the way this feels. You just don't like
the way it feels. The vibes are off. I will respect even though obviously that statement was prepared. I will respect
the fact that Andrew says what Charlie would have said and for the first time I feel that's been expressed that we have
to let free speech be our north star. And I'm not so sure that the people some
of the people that were donating to Turning Point USA believe that. In fact, I'm certain some of them don't believe
that. Obviously, we wouldn't have that text message if they all believed that. And that is what I think is has been so
frustrating is that it seems as though the executives would rather, and I'm now referring to Tyler Ber, impugn the
character of the people who are doing exactly what Charlie Kirk would have done. So please, Andrew, make sure that
Tyler Boyer and Alex Clark get the internal memo about free speech.
I want to say one more thing rather explosively. Three people told me off record, two
people who have this in a written communication from Charlie, uh, one who
is a Turning Point USA donor and I would say very much one of the white knights in this.
The very day before Charlie Kirk died, he expressed that he thought he was
going to be killed. He told these people, "I think they're going to kill me." Okay? He had not
expressed that to me. So I am telling you this based off the testimony of three people and I am saying this
because I hope that these people who I think are good will be inspired to come forward with that. Now again those
conversations I had were off record. I honor that. If I say it's off record it stays off record. But I'm hoping that
watching what I am doing and feeling the energy that is rising across the world for people who want to know what the
heck happened on 910 that you know they will be brave and they will say yeah
Charlie did the day before he died think that he was going to be killed and maybe tell us who is they for once and for all
who is they who is the they that he thought was were going to kill him. Now, to answer to give the obvious answer to
federal informant Nick Fuentes's question, the reason that I waited to reveal the text messages is because I'm not a child. Okay? Like I said, I have a
lot more. I'm I'm not an idiot and I have self-control and I understand that
time is always going to be on the side of truth. Time is on the side of truth. Liars know that that's the reality.
Liars know that they have to speak quickly, that they have to speak repeatedly. And I wanted the world to
truly understand just exactly what it is that we are up against. Okay? People
that I deem to be mentally and spiritually evil. Okay? Evil in the true
essence of the word evil. People who knowingly lied, instantly lied, repeatedly lied, and continued to do so
without a trace of shame. Okay? Without a trace of shame. I mean that, right? I
I really do mean it when I say that you have to be someone that is or maybe
rather someone that is possessed by something that is less than human
subhuman to do that. There's no there's no humanity in you. That is why I named
Josh Hammer. I believe he is a deeply disturbed man. Think about that now that
you have those messages. Okay, let's put this in the context. Just a few hours before I dropped that text chain, Josh
Hammer was, you know, was concerning himself with what he's been doing uh since Charlie caught the bullet in his
neck. He has been spreading lies, saying that Charlie never flinched on Israel.
Right. Charlie never flinched. Oh my god, these people like get there lying 48 hours before Josh Hammer was on that
text thread. And that did not stop him from keeping up the propagandist effort
when he went on a show yesterday before I dropped the messages and said this.
Charlie was a was was a close friend of mine as you know. We actually spoke literally the night before his tragic
and untimely death. I was on a small Zoom call with him and a couple others. We we were literally talking through this topic. I I was giving Charlie
advice for how to message on this issue on his forthcoming campus tour. you know, he kind of jokingly mentioned to
me, he was like, "Josh, I'm going to mention your book, Israel and Civilization, and it's so good." And that was literally our last conversation. It's just it's just so
tragic. This letter that he wrote to the prime minister, Chris, I read back in June or
July or so. And there were so many people in the aftermath of his horrific assassination, Candace Owens, folks like
that who were saying that, "Oh, Charlie was turning on Israel. He was ready to sell them out and renounce his his
life's work of of sincere and genuine friendship to the Jewish people and the Jewish state. But this letter that he
wrote to BB Netanyahu, Chris literally begins. The first sentence of the letter is I'm paraphrasing here, but it's a
close paraphrase. As a Christian, one of my greatest joys in life is making friendships with the Jewish people and
defending the state of Israel. That's literally the opening sentence of this letter.
Filth. Okay. absolute filth. I I don't
understand it. I can't comprehend it. I this whatever that is that lives in him does not live in me. There was no truth
in him. Obviously, there was no truth in Josh Hammer. He could have said what Charlie was going through 48 hours
earlier. Yeah. He he didn't he refused to do that.
In fact, I'm quite alarmed with what I know that there are three
people who said uh that Charlie communicated 24 hours before he died that he thought they were going to kill
him. Now, I find it rather alarming that Josh Hammer is similarly saying, "Oh, the night before." So, you spoke to him
the night before. Did he communicate that to you, Josh Hammer? Did he? I'm
interested. I know we won't get answers from you, but let me promise you that if
I get a text message to the effect that you were somehow involved in him feeling anxiety the day before, if you did
something that gave him anxiety in that way, I will release it instantly. there
will be no place that you can hide. Anyways, I want you guys to know that I
was feeling so inspired by Josh Hammer's utter lack of human decency that I went
ahead this week and sent around a life insurance policy of sorts of sorts, a
package rather to people that I trust. A package filled with text messages, emails, private communications, videos,
and private legal documents. So if anything happens to me, you guys will know exactly who it is that has been
making my life a living hell over the past couple of years. People that are trying to bankrupt me, trying to
bankrupt me and my family that are threatening us to sue us. Everything that Kanye said was so real.
Okay, I'm
now at that point where you look back and you go, man, Kanye was right. He was really saying something about what it
takes to leave, you know, to fight for custody of your own soul. Just leave me
alone. Let me say what I believe and you say what you believe. Fight fair. Why do you always have to make this threat to
bankrupt people? And I want you to know that those people, if anything happens to me, they have my explicit permission
to release it all. Detonate it all. Expose all of these people in politics
and in the movement who behave like this behind the scenes. It's necessary. And I highly recommend
every single person that is out there that has a platform and is going through things and is scared do the same. send
everything around to about eight people that you trust. And I mean, I I've ranged it. I sent it to journalists,
text messages, and screenshots to people ranging from Max Blumenthal to Andrew Tate. They won't know where it's coming
from. It will be everywhere. I want to remind you guys uh in the wake of all of
this that it is so important to keep trusting our guts. We have been proven
right so many times in the recent past, right? Whether we're speaking about COVID, people that had to actually take
a stance before people were then suddenly government, oh admit, oh yeah, we were lying. We were lying about this.
We were lying about that. We feel it all right now. The feds are lying. That is beyond obvious. Which is why I was very happy to hear uh former Navy Seal Rob O'Neal explain this plainly when he went
on Piers Morgan's show the other day. Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
Me, I mean, it was off right from the beginning for me. Do
we not guard rooftops anymore? There's been assassination attempts all over the world. Why aren't we looking at rooftops?
And then when I was sent the I was sent the video with this at the same message where they said, "Charlie Kirk
was just shot," when I watched that horrific video, he was obviously dead before he hit the ground. But the
questions immediately started to come to me. But that was not an entry room that we saw. We saw an exit wound. So, where'd that bullet come from? You
don't bleed like -- and I've shot guys closer than the camera was. An entry wound doesn't look like
that. An exit wound does. Why did his shirt move the way it did? When I've shot people, their shirts didn't move like that. And then the
initial reaction was, well, he was obviously wearing body armor and it was deflection. One, no. Uh, he wasn't
wearing body armor. And two, it doesn't deflect like that off of body armor. Why was the shirt moving from right to left?
Why were people being interviewed saying, "Yeah, they came from my left to right, from his right to left," immediately shut down? And then did
they tear the crime scene down immediately? Just right off the bat from seeing it, knowing he was dead, saying a lot of this is bad. Not even
getting into the soliloquy of text messages that 22-year-olds don't send their translover.
So immediately,
the official story sounds like it needs to be investigated. But now, you know, the whole crime
scene's gone. They paved over it. Nothing to see here.
You just have to laugh. The soliloquy of
the text messages that 22 year-olds do not send their lovers. Yes, that's kind
of the main point, guys. We have been working off a a lot of tips and so much more is going to be exposed and we're
going to get into that more tomorrow. I do want to give you a quick update on Lance Twigs and like I said, uh we know
that the feds are lying to us. The question is why are the feds lying to us? The answer is always the same. The
feds only lie to cover their own tracks. They are protecting themselves and their
bosses. Who are their bosses? Who is they?
Let me tell you guys something very interesting about this investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder. We don't feel I don't think the majority of people in the world feel
that we know what happened and I want you guys to know that we have not for a single second ceased our investigation.
Right? What actually happened on 9/10? We don't know. And we are still working
through a ton of the tips related to what happened. Uh,
but I want to tell you that I maintain I actually believe that this was a
military hit that involved foreign actors and also literal actors. I
believe that that day ran uh something akin to JFK's assassination. I believe
that there were therefore multiple decoys on the ground. I do not believe,
just so I'm clear here, that the person who was walking up the stairs killed Charlie. In fact, my suspicion is that
that photo was not even shot on the same day. I do not believe that the person who ran across Lozi rooftop killed
Charlie. I think it was another decoy. I do not believe that shot came from a Lozi Center at all. And I obviously, we
all know that decoy George Zin didn't kill Charlie. And I received an
interesting tip about him as well that he's much more connected than what meets the surface. He potentially has
connections to the federal department, familial connections to the federal department. And we are proddding that.
It's getting interesting. Anyway, uh that would suggest that there are thus for a total of four decoys like George
Zinn, staircase guy, maroon shirt guy, and Lozi center guy. None of which I
believe actually pulled the trigger. Call it a hunch. I think it's much more likely that Lance Twigs is the one that
is walking in that maroon shirt. His build is nothing like Tyler Robinson's build. Uh Lance Twigs is thinner. Uh and
obviously I'm speculating here, but I believe Tyler Robinson was involved and he was in fact driving around campus on
that day, therefore assisting in the costume changes, likely picking up
clothing. And as we broke the story, uh Tyler was seen at Dairy Queen and what
was he seen doing? As I told you, dumping clothing in the cemetery beside
that Dairy Queen. So I think that is what his involvement is limited to. That was his job. Uh to get rid of clothing.
Uh it's completely a nonsense to think that a person who had never killed anyone was high on adrenaline after a
kill and decided to eat Dairy Queen. That doesn't even make sense biologically speaking. There was going to be an adrenaline measure that kicks
in after you kill a animal, yet alone a person, yet alone having it be your
first kill. And you're like, he just decided to go to DQ. Sit down, write some poetic text messages. It's why they
are freaking out about that Dairy Queen leak because it disrupts their narrative. One of many things that
disrupts their narrative. But what about Lance Twigs, right? this
uh roommate, man. Something about him. The roommate of Tyler Robinson is I
think federally protected. I especially think that because we learned some more interesting facts about him. So, I feel
confident, or I shouldn't say completely confident, but I feel like it's okay to venture a guess that he is a federal
asset of some description. Could be related to his online work on Discord chats. It's the only thing that makes
sense to me. Anyways, I can tell you guys, I can break this for you, that the
government, and this would implicate Governor Cox and whoever else was a part of that press conference, uh, the
morning after, the 33 hours after they apprehended Tyler Robinson, the government lied when they said, uh,
Lance, you know, I'm obviously paraphrasing here, he came in peacefully. He handed over everything. I
mean, the whole depiction was like he was just so shocked his boyfriend could do something like this. And so he handed
over everything. Well, according to his family, that's just not true. According to his family,
he was raided and he was angry about that raid. And yet, he was instantly
released back into their care within 6 hours. Isn't that something? They had no
idea what was happening. They were going off of Mike, the mysterious detective Mike Mitchell's tip. They had no
confession. They have Tyler Robinson walking in uh peacefully because he doesn't want to
die. And uh you're telling me Lance Twigs, for whatever reason, you released
him immediately back into custody. No, they lied. He was not being compliant and walking in and showing them
everything. Something else that was interesting, we had told you guys that
Tyler's family thought that there could have been something weird going on with
that raid, that perhaps the feds could have been staging that apartment to fit
into their narrative. Now, the feds are staging this entire operation. So, that would follow that if you're trying to
get a conviction, you got to be like, "And we found this in his house." The note underneath the keyboard. So
convenient. But he destroyed it. He took a picture of it, but then he destroyed it cuz if everybody knows if you want to destroy something so it never sees a
light of day, he took a picture of it so it lives forever in the iCloud. Anyways, uh we were told by Lance's
family that who by the way own the apartment that the two of them lived in
that Tyler and Lance lived in. We were told that somebody illegally changed their locks on the home following the
raid. Obviously illegal. They were not informed that the locks were being changed. So, it gives us two options. It
was either Lance or it was the feds. I was wondering like, you know, if
you're Lance and you really got swept up in this and you're so shocked that Tyler Robinson did this,
is are you speaking to your family about that? My gosh. I'd imagine you want to speak to your family. No. No. It seems
uh Lance has similarly been in an unknown known location since the raid. I
would imagine he was in witness protection for a bit, but he doesn't he doesn't need family. He feels I would
say that suggests that he's pretty arrogant right now in this moment. He's not fearful of anything. Like I said,
the sense I am getting is we are watching a play, right? The government has us completely distracted with photos
of people who are not even the same person. I never for a second thought the person that was in the maroon shirt was
the same as the person that was walking with the limp. It's completely foolish and ridiculous.
I can also tell you something else. We received a tip which I vetted that on
the day of Charles Kush's assassination, you know, immediately George Zinn gets
up and says, "I did it. I did it. I did it." And he kind of gets dragged. Well, apparently George Zinn had to receive
medical treatment following that little fraas. And he told
multiple nurses and doctors that he did it because he was being paid to do it.
He said he had not been paid yet, but he was going to receive payment. He didn't
know from who. That's interesting.
Decoy boy told medical staff multiple apparently he was just singing
just like just telling everybody who would listen that he did it because payment was going to be promised to him
if he did do it. What does that tell us? We should definitely dig into George Zinn. We should definitely try to
confirm uh this relatively strong tip that he has connections to the feds
because it would be very interesting if the feds were going to pay George. I'm not saying they are. Uh but yeah, why
why wouldn't he know? I mean, make that make sense. Why wouldn't George Zin know where the payment was coming from?
Yeah. Anyways, you guys, we are on the case. I wanted to share that with you. as some other explosive things that we
have found out that the feds have not shared. Other people that they were questioning that they did not share. People that
similarly have been told to be quiet about everything. And let's be clear, they are not asking everyone to be
silent because they are seeking a conviction against Tyler Robinson. They
are telling everybody to be silent because they don't want to get caught. The feds are covering their own tracks.
John & Irina Mappin's touching letter.
All right, guys. Guys, I want to pivot here and I I want to read you something. Well, now I want to be I want to be
perfectly clear that despite all appearances over the last two weeks, it
has been a very difficult time for me. Uh obviously, normally when I'm covering a story, I'm bombastic and I feel brave
and focused because I am speaking about someone that has nothing to do with me. This has been particularly challenging
because I had and I still am very much grieving Charlie and waking up to the
realization that not everyone is grieving him in the same way that he may have just been a political pawn to so
many people that he loved deeply. I mean it it I'm going to be honest even Donald Trump's non-reaction not making any
demands um for truth regarding this investigation deeply upsets me. deeply
upsets me because I know how much Charlie Kirk loved Donald Trump. Uh, so I was just so I was happy. It brought
literal tears to my eyes when a donor from Turning Point USA, a donor that
actually then unlocked a whole another level of donations for Charlie Kirk
through introductions that he made for Charlie and a donor who it's it's ironically this is the very donor that
when I said to Charlie, "We need to be in the UK. We need to be in the UK." and he was like, "Well, I know somebody uh who I could maybe have set up an event.
We can start Turning Point UK." And that event was when I first laid eyes on George. Not when I spoke to him, but when I actually first laid eyes on him.
Uh that donor issued a public statement. And uh I think he will be the first of
many donors that might make a public statement. And he made this statement in
my favor. This was written by him and his wife, two wonderful people, John and
Arena Mappen. Uh, I'm just going to read it because I think these words don't
just eloquently express how I'm feeling, but I think these words eloquently might express how we are all feeling
worldwide. Like I read this and I said to myself, I couldn't have written this
better myself with all the time in the world. John and Aarina Wright, Charlie
Kirk built Turning Point USA on transparency, free speech, and a relentless pursuit of truth. We are
witness to that. If Candace Owens had been assassinated, Charlie would have torn apart every lie and devoted every
working day and night to uncovering the full truth. He would not have trusted the authorities to deliver justice. He
would have demanded it from the rooftops. Charlie would not have waited for the funeral or memorial to happen.
He would have gotten to work immediately. He would have worked night and day to uncover exactly what had happened to his great friend. Consider
this. Charlie did not sleep for several days and several nights just to ensure that JD Vance became the vice
presidential nominee. And although that job was supremely important for the country and its future, it was still
ultimately simply helping to secure a job promotion. Candace is working to get to the truth of who killed Charlie Kirk
and why they did it. Charlie's execution is an assassination with potentially far-reaching political consequences for
America and the world. What we have seen so far beggars belief. a crime scene
apparently completely destroyed in days and plenty of evidence that simply does not add up. This investigation and the
truthful answer as to who was really responsible for deciding that Charlie would be executed in front of the world
will affect America's future, its collective soul and conscience forever.
The truth, when known, and we believe it will be known, will have far-reaching international consequences. The very
idea that someone could be convicted and could receive the death penalty when there remains even the slightest shadow
of doubt or shred of uncertainty that they may not be guilty of that crime and that Christian souls would tolerate that
possibility is anathema to all the teachings of Christ. If there were circumstances where a
suspect or someone standing trial for murder did not have a clean opportunity to receive the very best and fairest
legal representation to present their case and defense to the world. It would have been aborant to Charlie Kirk. It
would go against every constitutional principle that he lived, fought, and died for. Erica is in mourning. May God
bless her and her family. Please give her and her family time to grieve. Any civilized culture, Christian or
otherwise, allows a grieving widow 40 days of mourning to make peace with the Lord and to respect the departed. Those
people who truly love her would gladly grant her all the space she needs. We certainly do. But we are growing rather
sick and ashamed of seeing people criticize Candace for doing her level best to get to the bottom of and to the
truth of what happened to Charlie on that day. You don't have to agree with Candace on every subject that she addresses on her shows to acknowledge
that much of what she is presenting on the subject of Charlie's death is extremely concerning to America and to the world. Completely valid and very
relevant to the investigation. She has an army of truth seekers worldwide who are helping her in her search and her
research. This is a truly new and modern phenomenon that has never happened before. This is not 1963 and boomers
need to get used to it. In our view, the official investigation should be immediately ordered by the appropriate
legal authority to proactively share everything they know with Candace and her selected team. That is, if truth and
real understanding of who decided to assassinate Charlie and why is the sincere objective, that would go some
way towards restoring public trust in the system. It is our view that her actions are not just the actions that
any real friend would take for their friend. They are the actions of the highest order of patriotism. Candace's
actions are service to the whole country and to the world. Beyond that, they are truly providential, divinely inspired,
and metaphysical. There is a relationship between truth and all living things. There is a relationship
between truth and God. Right now, Turning Point USA is at a vital moment.
If we continue to witness the mistreatment and the suppression of a young woman and a mother of four young children who is doing everything she can
to help get to the truth about who decided that her friend and fellow freedom fighter Charlie had to die, they
will lose the country and the world and America will have lost one of its greatest living patriots only to see
those factors against which he fought and died for win. Canis's extremely valid point that hers has so far been
one of the only public voices from Charlie's closest friends questioning the absurdity of some of the
communications regarding what happened and demanding clarity is well made and frankly that point alone is shocking to
the world. We have been receiving calls from senior Republicans and from Turning Point donors who agree with her all last
week and they started up again this week. They agree with Candace, but seeing the attacks that she is experiencing, they are terrified to
voice their views publicly. Is that really where we are in 2025?
Few people following the matter believe the official version, the virgin version, a low minority believe that the
current suspect is guilty. That statistic alone is an awful commentary on the state of the official
investigation. The world wants truth. The world Charlie and those who truly loved him and knew
his purposes certainly deserve justice. But justice needs not just to be done.
It needs to be seen to be done justly. I want to read that sentence again because it's very powerful. Justice needs not
just to be done. It needs to be seen to be done justly. It must be truthful. It
must be fair. And it must be clean. If there are videos, show them. If there is evidence, show it. The world is not
going to accept anything less. This is not about who is right or wrong or whose theory is correct. Candace's
investigation is about actually getting to the truth. Whatever that truth is. If the current theory for the shooter is
truth, then okay, that is a lie. Then we need to know. Every episode of Candace's show since Charlie died from her
heartfelt emotional tribute to her exceptional journalism has been incredible. And anyone who cares for the truth and who wants to know who killed
Charlie for real should watch every episode in its sequence. The fact is that we are being told as
his friends or simply as people who had never heard of Charlie Kirk before his assassination simply does not make sense
to the vast majority. It feels like gaslighting. It feels like we are being lied to. It is not hard to tell the
truth to the public or to present the clear facts that illustrate the truth clearly. Many extremely ethical people
helped to build Turning Point in all associated groups. Turning Point Action and Turning Point Faith. Many of these
people are existing and potential future donors. We know many of them. Ethical people will not stand for lies or
injustice, either privately or publicly. The existing and future donors who were friends of Charlie's and those he loved
deserve no less. But please spare us the absurd and evil suppression of
suggesting that Candace should not be doing exactly what she is doing. She is doing no more and no less than what her friend Charlie would have done for her.
Her actions are far more reasonable and experiencable than an assassin's bullet to the throat. Consider for a moment the
evil of possibly allowing the conviction of a potentially innocent party with the death penalty. We can only begin to
imagine the wrath of God and how upset Charlie will be if an innocent man were to be executed for his assassination and
what ill fortune would befall a Christian country and the individuals that would allow this.
In this sense, Christianity and a leading Christian democracy are now on
trial. There's a special place in eternity reserved for those who would allow such an injustice. If Turning Point and
Charlie left in charge, if Turning Point and those who Charlie left in charge failed to stay true to the principles
and purposes on which Charlie founded it and with which he and Candace originally breathed life into it during its
formative years, then Turning Point will end up like MySpace. It will become just one more ineffective and rather dull has
been activity. I believe that God has other plans for Charlie and for his legacy. A cover up of the truth is not,
in my view, part of God's plans. I believe that people of goodwill from all over the world will will ensure that.
Keep going, Candace. Charlie is walking with you every step of the way. He loves you deeply, and you are right about your friendship with him. Never at any time.
Through all the challenges that the political arena and life brought, did he ever withdraw his friendship from you, Candace, you were you are an eternal
cornerstone in his life and his legacy. What a great friend you are being to him. We are all witness to that. All of our love, John and Arena. Oh, it's going
to make me cry again. It's just like I really needed it. I don't know. I just really needed it. Like it's just I feel
like I kind of went through a process where I was going like in those two weeks following
was any of it real? You know, like I when I expressed to you that I felt that Charlie's life was like the Truman Show
and then I I know that's how you guys felt because we were we were just expecting a fight. We were just
expecting a fight and instead it seems like the very things that Charlie was
fighting lies no matter what they were somehow were being platformed and allowed. So,
thank you, John. Thank you, Reena. I cried last night reading that. I almost cried on air there reading it again. I I needed it. So, anyways, you guys, I'm
going to read a couple of more sponsors and I want to get to all of your comments, some explosive things that we
will be revealing tomorrow. I'm really excited about everything. And also, I want to add to this, thank you guys, not just John and Arena, for being the first
donors that took a public stance. But before they did this, it was all of you guys at home. Truly, uh, the tags
fighting for me in the comments when I was being smeared, when they even tried to wipe away my friendship, like she hasn't spoken to him since 2015. It was
you guys. Like, you this letter is is for you. Every time he says Candace, he means all of us. All of us did this.
Comments.
All right, you guys. I'm glad I held it together. Glad I held it together reading that letter. Uh, first comment
that we have is from Jennifer. Jennifer writes, "Do we know anything about the security team that was
supposed to keep Charlie alive?" I do. I have everybody's names, the people that we couldn't identify. Uh, Jennifer
continues, "So many questions. Since the MO was out there due to Trump, why wasn't this taken into consideration?
Were drones offered and or declined? Did they do a drill run through that morning?" Amir Odum, hey, what's up?
Thank you. You have a great uh he has a great YouTube channel, Amir Odum. He writes, "Before we judge Candace for thinking that there's hidden agendas, we
have to admit history has given her every reason to." Absolutely. There are this is political politics is nasty
business. Amir, as you know, you know, you're a friend of someone who's in politics. Brett Cooper Corey Henry
writes, "Give me the Kool-Aid in a juice box." Lmo regarding Ashton Forbes cult
comment. Yeah, it was totally crazy. I don't know what I like. Yeah, maybe we're in a cult of truth. I don't know
like what what's it called? Maybe Christianity. I mean like I want to tell
the truth. So there's that. Sarah D writes, "Keep going, Candace. Love from Australia." Thank you, Sarah. Steve
writes, "A major victory in defending Charlie's true legacy. We stand with you, Candace. The truth will come out. When it does, it will shake the
foundations of the world. I believe it. You believe it. We all believe it. John and Arena believe it. Uh we feel it, you
know, like we're fighting and it it feels there's a finality to it. like this had to happen and the demons are
frantic and they're angry and I only have a platform because I keep telling
the truth. You know, if I had lied, if I had sold my soul, which many people have done, I I wouldn't have earned your
trust. And so, yeah, it comes at a cost. It certainly comes at a cost. The last
two weeks have been very hard, but it also comes at an even more amazing
reward. Justine Low writes, "As soon as you said he was betrayed, I knew it was true. My
female intuition at work brought me to tears and prayed for your safety." Thank you. He was He was RN Explorer writes,
"Thank you for fighting for the truth. I believed you from the beginning. I am crying as you read that letter. I'm glad
you cried on me because I was like, not twice in the same year am I going to be caught crying." Um but yeah, you are
laying your life and fighting for the truth for your friend. Amy writes, "Most
holy theoticus bless and protect the handmade of God, Candace and her family." Candace, so many of us in the
Orthodox Christian community are praying for you. Lord have mercy on us all. Yep.
You know, it's uh it has also been great to feel the Orthodox and the Catholic energy rising. And I and I want to be
clear. I'm not saying that as a pot shot uh to other denominations, but it feels
like for a lot of there's been a lot of persecution and a lot of this for some reason has involved, as I showed you
yesterday, you know, pastors that have been a part of this like part of spreading these lies and that is it's
not good. It's just not good to have pastors uh using the Bible to lie. It's
just not okay. Maheen Sadiki writes, "I think it would be interesting to do a deep dive into how the term
Judeo-Christian came about. I'm aware of it. It seems to be a very convenient word for Israel. I don't think any of
the core values or their views on Jesus are shared." It definitively is not. And um you know, we inherited it. We were
all in public schools. We all thought the same thing. I was working for Zionist entities. So I don't fault us
our ignorance. That is how the deception is is thick, you know, and we're finally
piercing through that layer for the first time. Will Wallace writes, "Decoy boy, please reach out to Candace's
people for the tea." Gang gang is inquiring. We feel like we know, but we
don't know now, right? I agree. Elder MJ writes, "Rooting for you from
Malaysia and praying for your safety. You are so brave. Thank you." Donna writes, "I'm not crying. You're crying,
Candace. I know you were crying. I felt the Holy Spirit in every word that you pressed today. Godspeed. And may uh the
may he bless you eternally for what you are doing. The potential sacrifice of your life and those around you. Yeah, I
think we have to be brave. And I'm a real Christian. I know this life is not it. I know it's not it. And um in fact,
people I know have intentionally been trying to convince us that this is it. so that they can further commit you uh
to their matrix to get you to agree to sell your soul, to get you to agree to lie because you're so worried about
things that are in this world. I I know that uh Charlie Charlie soul was removed
from his body and I know that he's watching and I keep that in mind when it gets hard. I keep in mind that Charlie
is watching. I know I feel um that he's with me and he's proud that somebody who
cared about him is fighting. Boredom took over, right? You are literally my spirit animal and have given me the
motivation to push forward on my dream. Charlie is so proud of you, love. Please don't give up on us and these fakes should be scared. You are the storm.
Thank you. We are the storm. Cuz I'm telling you, I could not do it without you guys. Um, and my family. They've
just been amazing. Luna writes, "Charlie also told Dr. Frank Turk right before his death when they were having a combo
about upping his security that Charlie knows quote unquote they want him dead. Frank shared this on his podcast
following Charlie's death. That makes four." Yeah. He knew. He would know. He knew he was going to be killed. Who did
he think was going to kill him? That's the question. And I'm glad to hear that Frank Turk shared that. Linda writes,
"Girl, you made me cry. God bless you. I'm praying for you." A Maria, thank you.
John and Arena made me cry. So, it's really their fault. If you ought to be angry at anybody, you can be angry at Jed Arena for writing that. It just I I
did I I felt the Holy Spirit in those words. I really did. I It's how we're all feeling. Turtle Mama writes, "I
enjoy listening to your content and I feel so at peace with the information that you share as truth. Sending prayers from Mississippi and stay safe." Thank
you so much, Turtle Mama. Uh, we're all actually doing this thing. Uh, so thank you guys for supporting me on this
journey. Thank Thank you for all of you guys that have signed up at canowens.com, bought yourself a hat, a t-shirt, joined our CIA, the
decentralized, which is more of a threat, by the way. If it's centralized, you can just whack it. If it's decentralized, it's everywhere. And
that's why I sent out that little packet to people that I trust. that I said screenshots to Max. I'm like everyone
who is threatening me behind the scenes all that stuff using lawfare to threaten
me or speech like we're now all attached. Okay, so there we go. I
recommend that everybody does that. Send it to people on the left. Send it to people on the right. Um I I love that
people on the left and right are finally coming together. Can I say that as well? Gosh, we are over time for the book
club. Hopefully people are on this so they know why we're late to the book club uh which we have tonight as we
begin this introduction to this book which they will not reprint but is a
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Hi everybody. Today's Wednesday, October 8, 2025 and our dear friend Max Bloomal
joins us today. Welcome back, Max. Good to see you, Nema. Please subscribe and hit like button to
help us reaching more people. And you know that you can follow Max on the gray
zone. They have a YouTube channel and on their website. You will find a lot of
stuff there, a lot of information. They're doing a tremendous job there.
Max, let's start with one of the latest news on the case of the Charlie Kirk,
the assassination of Charlie Kirk. We've learned from the text message that came out that he was asked by his donors to
cancel Tuckel Carlson and he refused and that's why he lost one of the main
donors of his program and he said 24 hours before these tech messages and he
said he's going to he's considering leaving the Israeli pro-Israeli cause.
Your take on what has happened? How do you find the situation with the Charlie Kelks story? Well, these new text
messages, which were dated to, I think, 24 to 48 hours before
he was killed, are bombshell. and they confirm everything that I've been
reporting since I started reporting after his murder on the fact that he was
beginning to become alienated by the Zionist billionaires who had made him
who he was, who had fueled his rise, who had fueled his career. And so I went through this three-part investigation
and in the third part finally landed on the name of one of his biggest donors who had built him up from the beginning
named Robert Schillman who is not just an anti-Palestinian donor who uh donates heavily to friends
of the IDF and to the settlement enterprise in the occupied West Bank but
is an anti-Islam donor has donated loads of money to Steven Yaxley Lenin aka a
Tommy Robinson who's fueling a religious war in the UK to the career of Laura
Loomer to Gilders figures who are hostile to Islam period
and Robert Schillman was early on a big backer of Charlie Kirk and he pulled out
of a $2 million donation. This was, you know, these rumors were going around
in conservative circles and I managed to confirm them with by even getting Robert Schillman himself on the phone. And
then, you know, Candace Owens begins a series of live streams. I mean, she had
been live streaming about this from the beginning, entertaining not just the
facts that, you know, we've confirmed about Charlie Kirk having been alienated
by pro-Israel donors, but, you know, also various theories about his
assassination. And she comes under heavy attack from many of the influencers who
were around Charlie Kirk at the end from the Zionist world who were pushing him to stay in line with Netanyahu who were
basically cutouts for Netanyahu and who were feeding him talking points ahead of
his next campus tour, knowing that he was going to be bombarded with critical questions about his support for Israel
and that he wasn't really particularly enthusiastic to answer them. And so Candace Owens gets attacked. Her
credibility is being called into question. And figures like Josh Hammer,
who is a Newsweek editor at large, sort of a enforcer for Netanyahu in the
media, who is part of these small meetings with Charlie Kirk of less than 10 Zionist activists, feeding him
talking points all the way up to the end. Says Candace Owens is a huge liar. Uh, none of this is true about Charlie
Kirk leaving the fold. he was pro-Israel, ride or die to the very end.
And then she drops the bomb. These text messages showing that Charlie Kirk was
furious with Robert Schillman pulling out the $2 million because he wouldn't
uh he he wouldn't refuse to host Tucker Carlson, who's become very critical of Israel.
and he said, "These Jewish donors are playing to the stereotypes, and after this, I'm done with the
pro-Israel cause." He basically was threatening all of them because he felt blackmailed,
as I reported, for hosting Tucker Carlson, and he said, "If you keep it up, I'm going to bring Candace Owens
back." So, he was really losing it. Candace Owens got a hold of these texts. She released them. She did not reveal
the names of all of the people in these chat groups, but one of them was indeed
Josh Hammer. Now, here's where it gets crazy. Josh Hammer
on September 9th dredged up a Donald Trump tweet from
2013 calling for publicly executing I think
at the time he was calling for publicly executing drug dealers, but it just said they if they're publicly executed that
will send a strong message. It's an old tweet. Josh Hammer just
thought of it for some reason and he tweets it out and quotes quote tweets it
based. You know that's really a cool thing to say. Why why did he tweet that
24 hours before Charlie Kirk was publicly executed? I mean he wasn't publicly assassinated.
I don't have any evidence of Josh Hammer or the Israel lobby being involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination. It's just
weird. And it's also highly dishonest of all of these figures from Bill Aman, the
billionaire Netanyahu cutout to Josh Hammer to all these other figures around
Charlie Kirk to Netanyahu himself who tried to claim his legacy to still assert that Charlie Kirk wanted to
support Israel all the way to the end when their own behavior is what alienated him. He wasn't exactly uh
moved by the suffering of Palestinians. He was still tweeting out anti-Islam
statements. He was probably still trying to hold on to uh Robert Schillman's money.
But in the end, he was he had I mean like 24 hours before he was killed, he had basically lost it and said, "I'm
leaving the pro-Israel cause." And this is before he's going to go on a nationwide campus tour where he's going to be bombarded with questions about
Israel. This could have been potentially disastrous for the Israel lobby and the
cause of Israel in the United States to have its most important non-governmental gentile asset actually criticizing or
entertaining criticism of Israel at these gigantic kind of arena size events.
But we'll never know. Yeah, Max,
when it comes to Charlie Kirk and his movement, do you think that it seems that Israel
somehow feels that they need to do something with the public opinion in the United States? It's not just about the
Charlie K and his movement. It's all about the media in the United States. What is at stake for Israel in the
United States when it comes to media? Well, it's it's this is the way Netanyahu understands it and I and I
guess most Israelis at this point is that they can keep committing genocide and still hold on to the American public
and the Western public in general uh by position positioning themselves as
the saviors of Western civilization. And it's just not working. I mean, if they
would stop shredding children, shredding people, killing anywhere from
90 to 150 people and wounding hundreds every day, senselessly destroying
cities, carrying out ethnic cleansing, which we all can see, despite Twitter X's increasing efforts to censor
everything we see under on the grounds that it's sensitive material, while showing pornography freely. You can see
it on Twitter X with a click of a button. um they they wouldn't need to
invest the foreign ministry's budget of $150 million for the year of 2025 for
husbar or propaganda inside the United States. The Israeli government has just taken
out a $4.5 million contract with a lobbying firm to basic to to attempt to
hack the brains of evangelical Christians going to church in four major
western metropolises, Las Vegas, Phoenix, the Los Angeles area, and
um Denver. And evangelical churches in these areas will
be offered a partnership program to geoence their church area. Meaning that
all churchgoers will have their phones flooded with ads
and programming by the Israeli government through this lobbying firm
promoting Israeli tourism. and they will be given uh v virtual reality October
7th experiences inside the church and then their phones will be targeted with
ads as they leave just simply for entering this geoenced area. It's an
unbelievable psychological attack on American evangelical Christians which I
think will produce more alienation. Brad Parscal, Trump's former campaign
manager, has been given $1.5 million a month in a foreign agent contract from
Israel to not just recruit influencers, but to
uh game the long lang language models of chat GPT and other AI mechanisms in
favor of Israel to essentially uh Zionize the algorithm. I don't know
how they're going to do that. Uh they're also paying influencers, a very small
codery of influencers who are positioned as sort of anti-woke influencers because the problem is now on the right.
They're paying them anywhere between six $6,100
to $7,100 per post to do propaganda posts in
support of Israel. Uh, one potential influencer who's getting this massive
payday is named Lizzie Sevetski, and she recently appeared in an Israeli marina.
She went on what appeared to be a pleasure yacht that belonged to an Israeli and claimed that it had been
captured from the flotilla and that she found a margarita machine, condoms, and
needles, and that the flotillaa passengers were actually shooting up with heroin. So, this is the kind of
propaganda that Israel's paying for. And you can look at the replies to these
posts. It's all negative. There's there are $7,000 per post memes mocking the
influencers. It's producing a horrendous backlash. And so the other talking point
that we're hearing from Israel's bought and paid for influencers is that the negative backlash they're getting is the
result of an Iranian and Qatari influence operation and that Iran and Qatar are the ones that are actually
responsible for all this American anger about the piles of dead civilians in
Gaza. Uh, one of those paid influencers or ostensibly paid influencers is CNN's
Van Jones who made a joke on real time with Bill Maher. Bill Maher being a, you
know, bootlicker of Netanyahu, an anti-Islam new atheist who hosts a show
on HBO. And Van Jones said, you know, Qatar and Iran have young people seeing
pictures of dead Palestinian baby, dead Palestinian baby, Diddy, dead Palestinian baby. And the whole panel,
including Thomas Freriedman, the New York Times columnist, erupted in laughter at this joke about dead
Palestinian babies. But that's the Israeli talking point is that we're not actually reacting to reality. Our
indignation is not pure. It's the result of a foreign influence operation. And
it's pure projection because everything they're doing in our country represents
the most substantial, corrupt, scandalous, and toxic foreign influence
and foreign meddling operation in the history of the United States. It's
simply Israel gate. And yet the media treats it as uh business as usual. And
increasingly the media is controlled by it as Israel moves in through Netanyahu's billionaire cutouts to buy
key US media assets. Max, here is what we saw from Laura
Loomer. She's talking about I don't want to see Laura Loomer. Don't show me Laura. It's too early.
Yeah. Yeah. No, you can show show you can show it. It's okay. I was just joking.
Yeah. What has happened? She's talking about she talked with Congresswoman
Anna Paulina and she Anna Paulina Luna. Yeah. Yeah. They're talking about China being
behind the one of the groups, you know, connected to the FBI investigation
and for ties to Tyler Robinson. It seems that they're trying to connect China to
the case of Charlie Ker. What is that all about? Is the Israel just picking a
fight in order to be closer to the neocons? I would assume neocons are
Zionists and but why do they need to go in that direction that far against
China? Yeah, Laura Loomer is someone who bas who's sort of a I mean you you could
call her a private intelligence figure, but it's not really intelligence that
she's producing. It's more like misinformation and muddying the waters
and smearing on behalf of her clients who include
Israeli cutouts. Anna Paulina Luna, whose real name is Anna Paulina
Meerhoffer and had a career in the let's
say entertainment industry before she was in Congress is also a subject of
major Israeli influence. And what they're simply trying to do is shift the
discussion to an official adversary based on pure conjecture. I mean, Laura
Loomer at the same time is been for weeks she's been promoting this
fear-mongering narrative about an imminent al-Qaeda attack inside US cities. So, everything
that she's trying to do is trying to distract us and deflect from the reality that's staring us in the face. And she
also before Charlie Kirk was killed was heavily attacking him. I mean, she was one of the first people to launch the
attack on Charlie Kirk from the right. That's accusing him of speaking out of both sides of his mouth, of being uh,
you know, on the one hand pro-Israel and at on the other hand hosting Tucker
Carlson and hosting, you know, anti-ionist figures like Dave Smith at his events.
And so, Laura Loomer can't really seem to get her story straight, but who is she speaking for here? I mean, it looks
like right in in this case, she's speaking on Netanyahu's behalf and trying to get Americans or people in the
MAGA world to blame China. And I don't know what she's referring to, what she could possibly be referring to, or where
the evidence is, but it just doesn't stand to reason that China would have any role in this. I mean, Israel was
heavily invested in the career and life of Charlie Kirk. What did China have to
do with any of this? Yeah, yesterday was the anniversary of October
the 7th. You know, the the day that Hamas attack Israel and in the aftermath
of that day, everything has changed in Gaza. Gaza is devastated, destroyed by
Israeli attack. and looking at what has happened Max and
what's going on in the United States because th these people who are against the policies in the Middle East these
are not the farleft progressive people Democratic party and these are to the to
the right side of the Republicans you know like Steve Bannon he's talking he
came out and talk about the case of the Middle East the war against Iran the reality of October the 7th. Before going
to your comment, here is what Steve Bannon said on his podcast.
Netanyahu have to trumped up, totally trumped up, bald-faced lie about the
Persians. They had greater strategic ambitions and they didn't care if they sucked the United States into a 20 or
30-year war. Those days are over. President Trump has asserted himself that, hey, you are a protected. What did
say? He's given orders, right? He's given orders the way it should be. If
they want to go do it on their own, hey, God bless you. Go. Go for it. But do not suck us in. We're not in for this.
It's outrageous what has happened over the last couple years. And we still don't have an investigation on October
7th. And believe me, if the hands were clean of Netanyahu, you would had an investigation and been out in 30 days.
Write that down with your number two principle because that that's going to come and you're going to be shocked by
it. There's no way that just kind of happened.
You know what's important about Steve Bannon that he's reaching the sort of audience that the left and the
progressive cannot reach and that's important for the for Israelis. your
take on that? Well, Steve Bannon's been pushed out. I mean, he was pushed out first by Elon
Musk. Um, he is no longer chief of
staff. He's sort of in the wilderness trying to wage this America first fight
and he's become hostile to he was he was this was a longtime supporter of Israel.
Steve Bannon was one of the founders of Breitbart with Andrew Breitbart, which
was founded actually out of a meeting in Jerusalem with Benjamin Netanyahu, who
seemingly promised money from his cabal of millionaires inside the United States
for a new set of online conservative magazines. One of them was Gateway Pundit. Another one is Breitbart. And
Steve Bannon pro proudly declared that Breitbart under his watch after Andrew
Breitbart's untimely death was the most pro-Israel
magazine in America. And now you can see the shift. He refers to Israel as a
protectorate. He can see finally now that he's out of the administration or maybe based on what he saw inside the
administration that Israel's interests are not aligned with the US. In fact,
they contravene the US and that Israel as the ultimate frennemy has more power to harm US strategic interests than an a
supposed adversary. Steve Bannon is in the anti-China camp and he believes that
Israel is dragging the US into a multi-generational devastating conflict with Iran that is
draining its stockpiles of THAD missiles which would have been given to Taiwan
and other Indo-Pacific vassel states that are supposed to wage the frontline war against China. And so
Steve Bannon from an imperialist perspective sees Israel as an um an
obstacle if not a parasitic force that is just draining the lifeblood of the US
military and US empire. And another figure in the the camp, the Israel
critical camp that is incipient on the America first right is Matt Gates who
hosted me on his show on one American news about Charlie Kirk in Israel. And
Matt Gates was just on an an episode of Tim P where he was
reflecting on his time in Congress and going to Apac before he sort of had an
awakening. And he said that every member of Congress would wear a QR code and Apac members could simply take a photo
of the QR code or scan the QR code with their phones in order to donate to that
member of Congress. Um, imagine how alienating that is to be treated like
you're almost at some kind of slave auction surrounded by these donors representing
a foreign state. So the alienation continues to grow. It was the same
alienation Charlie Kirk felt in his last days and last moments as he was basically being besieged by Netanyahu's
cutouts. It's the same alienation that was exuded by Tucker Carlson in his last
mono, I think a historic mono, when he just raised the question that many of us
who started to question this relationship many years ago, especially on the left, asked, which is,
how is this tiny little country able to dominate and influence an unparalleled
global superpower? How does that even make sense? and how is that good for
this country? And he he went on for 20 more minutes about
that before bringing on Jeffrey Saxs, someone I don't know if you've hosted him, but you know, is he's making the
anti-Imperial geopolitical circuit uh even more electrifying than it currently
is?
Max, do you think that after all are we going to find out what has happened on October the 7th?
Well, I mean, I think we know more or less what happened, and that we have circumstantial evidence, or I don't want to call it evidence even, but there are various incidents that make many people, particularly in the west who haven't been on the ground in the southern Gaza envelope in Israel, or in the Gaza Strip itself, aren't really familiar with the resistance, and who consider Israel to be this omnipotent force with an all-seeing eye, that makes them believe that it was sort of an inside job, and that Israel not only supported Hamas secretly, but let it happen. And certainly there is evidence that Israel has benefited in certain ways from October 7th. But all we have is these circumstantial pieces of evidence. For example, members of the Givati brigade not entering a kibbutz on time, the female spotters in the Gaza division detecting unusual activity, and then the command back at Hakiraa and Tel Aviv not responding immediately. Intelligence warnings beforehand, but this is always underway. And for years and years, Israel has been detecting unusual activity, and warning of some kind of attack. But it's pretty clear to me that the Israeli intelligence services and military heavily underestimated the capacity of the Alcasam brigades, and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and that they were outsmarted on that day by Mohammed Sinwar, someone who was in Israeli prisons for 25 years, spoke fluent Hebrew, understood Israel's societal weaknesses, had a theory of change based on the Gilad Shalit prisoner swap, which he negotiated personally from prison, negotiated his own release, and he understood how to evade Israel's collaborator network in Gaza. Because why was he in prison for 25 years? Because he was in charge of counter espionage on behalf of the early phases of Alcasam, and had killed Palestinian spies for Israel inside Gaza. So he was perfectly positioned to orchestrate this operation. Israel was prepared for a tunnel attack, and what did the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades do? They simply went through a fence, and pounced on extremely lazy conscripts: the female spotters, and their sleeping male guards at military bases.
And after knocking out the military bases, were easily able to enter the kibbutzim, and take large amounts of captives. And by the time Apache helicopters were in the air, and tanks were on the ground, they were given orders to enact the Hannibal directive, which I think is the real scandal of the day. How many Israeli civilians were killed by the Israeli military? And we're now learning that on Zikim Beach, which is the closest beach to Gaza, at around 6:00 a.m. when Kasam militants arrived in a rubber boat and began an attack on the Zakim naval base, something that, by the way, Hamas has attacked before -- a frogman team was able to attack the Zakim naval base in 2014 so this isn't unprecedented -- at that point, an Israeli naval boat began opening fire on the entire beach, and slaughtered possibly dozens of Israeli beachgoers. This is newly released material. Much of that massacre appears to have been recorded by the victims on their phones, and by a couple of survivors. And the Israeli military has wiped their phones clean, and will not release the footage, as they go around the world trying to show every influential person their curated version of what took place on October 7th. I think it's possible hundreds of Israeli citizens were killed by the Israeli military on that day. And that complements the 350 or so Israeli soldiers, active duty combatants, who were killed by Hamas militants on that day.
Just before wrapping up, Max, we know that CBS News has a new head, Bari Weiss, and on her first expose since becoming the head of CBS News, she launched a campaign to defend Van Jones, and you've mentioned what has happened with him.
Let me see that. That's amazing.
Yeah, when you look at who Bari Weiss is, and what she is trying to do for Israel, and how capable these people could be in terms of the public opinion and the changes that they want to cause in the United States.
Yeah. I just think I think they'll produce more polarization and alienation. But no one watches CBS News. And what they're seeking to do is prevent legacy media from shifting away from the traditional pro-Israel line, and at least showing the humanitarian situation in Gaza. They've neutralized a major media asset. And then what they'll do is they'll use the brand of this asset that's still trusted by people over 50 or 60 in the United States, to legitimize the Likudnik pro-Israel narrative on certain issues.
But there's a deeper issue here. Let me first cover the Israel angle.
For those who don't know, CBS News was acquired through the sale of Paramount to a company called Sky Dance, which is owned by David Ellison. David Ellison is the son of Larry Ellison, who is a billionaire data merchant who owns Oracle, a CIA contractor. And Larry Ellison is a died-in-the-wool Jewish Zionist who is close to Benjamin Netanyahu, has hosted him on his private island, is on the board of Friends of the IDF, and his son, as we reported at the Grey Zone, sourcing reporting from Jack Paulson another journalist, was actually involved in a plan called 12 tribes, where the Israeli government, back in 2015, was recruiting 12 Zionist billionaires in the US to fund spying and sabotage activities against Palestine solidarity activism in the US. So that's who the CBS owner is, a guy who effectively is operating as an Israeli spy. So Israel bought this.
Israel has essentially bought Tik Tok as well. Larry Ellison fronted that sale. He's providing the infrastructure, and then the money came from Andreessen Horowitz. Marc Andreessen, venture capitalist, is a backer of Bari Weiss, and is also involved in drone technology. And his partner is Ben Horowitz, who's the son of one of the most prolific, and disgusting, anti-Palestinian agitators in US history, David Horowitz, who was actually an early mentor to Charlie Kirk.
So they want to buy social media. I think that's more important. They take social media off the table, and everyone's getting banned on Tik Tok for even mentioning Aipac. Now we're on the verge of being banned at The GrayZone. It's over. Netanyahu has called for Tik Tok to be bought. That's the bigger sort of threat to our ability to express ourselves and actually have a debate.
But Bari Weiss has been installed at CBS by David Ellison. And Bari Weiss is 41 years old. Her whole career has been dedicated to advancing the cause of Israel, and she's burrowed herself within the sort of anti-woke center-right movement, positioning herself as a voice of common sense against, you know, trans women being allowed in girls' locker rooms, and at the end of the whole COVID hysteria she suddenly as she was calling for everyone to get vaccinated, she suddenly decided to come out as an opponent of the lockdowns, after it became obvious that it was a disaster.
And she's positioning CBS News through her newsletter, the Free Press. So basically, after leaving the New York Times, claiming it was, you know, a liberal-infested hive of the woke mind virus, she had this comeback through a publication called Free Press. And that has been the vehicle for installing her at CBS. David Ellison bought the Free Press for $150 million. That was its valuation. And she falsely claimed that she had 1.5 million subscribers. Almost none of them are paid subscribers. And anyone watching this, compare the YouTube viewership of Dialogue Works, or The Grayzone, and we're heavily suppressed on YouTube to that of the Free Press. No one's watching the Free Press. None of their videos go viral. They're boring. And if you look at their studios, compared to my studio, or Nima's studio, their studios are elaborate. It's like this inviting living room, with neon signs, and expensive leather chairs, and Persian rugs. We can't afford that. So who's backing the Free Press?
This goes a little bit beyond Israel, but it's a tie-in to Israel. The Free Press is backed by Palantir co-founder Joe Lansdale. I believe other Palantir co-founders, like Alex Karp are involved, and Marc Andreessen, who I mentioned before. These are like the tech AI warlords that are taking over our country. And David Sachs, who is a tech billionaire who has a White House position now. He's the sort of Czar of AI and crypto policy, and he's steering crypto in favor of Trump who's doing all these memecoin rug pulls. This is corrupt in itself.
But Bari Weiss maintains control over the Free Press, and she's at CBS. And it looks like figures like David Sachs, who are in the White House, made money off the sale of the Free Press, because they were investors. So basically her installation at CBS is benefiting a class of AI warlords who are all ultra-Zionists, in violation of CBS's own ethics code, which is published on its website. And she's out there thanking them all. "Thank you Joe Lansdale."
They also created a fake university for Bari Weiss in Austin, the capital of Texas. And she has a bust of herself in the entrance. And Joe Lansdale, Palantir co-founder, is the chairman of this fake university. So at CBS, she is going to likely promote the interests of the tech warlords, including one in the White House, who made money off of her career. She basically owes it to them.
So what we're witnessing is not just sort of an Israeli takeover of a major legacy media asset, but a corruption scandal about financial and political conflicts of interest, which CBS, and the rest of the media, refuses to address. Because if you look at the way that mainstream US media is treating this, they're not saying anything about the corruption, and the conflicts of interest. And they're burying the Israel angle. That's where we're at, and that's why people are are turning away from corporate media, and watching Dialogue Works and The GrayZone, because they can see through it.
Yeah. Thank you so much, Max. Great pleasure as always.
Thanks very much, Nima. Good seeing you.
See you soon.
Bye-bye.
Dialogue Works
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Hi everybody. Today's Wednesday, October 8, 2025 and our dear friend Max Bloomal
joins us today. Welcome back, Max. Good to see you, Nema. Please subscribe and hit like button to
help us reaching more people. And you know that you can follow Max on the gray
zone. They have a YouTube channel and on their website. You will find a lot of
stuff there, a lot of information. They're doing a tremendous job there.
Max, let's start with one of the latest news on the case of the Charlie Kirk,
the assassination of Charlie Kirk. We've learned from the text message that came out that he was asked by his donors to
cancel Tuckel Carlson and he refused and that's why he lost one of the main
donors of his program and he said 24 hours before these tech messages and he
said he's going to he's considering leaving the Israeli pro-Israeli cause.
Your take on what has happened? How do you find the situation with the Charlie Kelks story? Well, these new text
messages, which were dated to, I think, 24 to 48 hours before
he was killed, are bombshell. and they confirm everything that I've been
reporting since I started reporting after his murder on the fact that he was
beginning to become alienated by the Zionist billionaires who had made him
who he was, who had fueled his rise, who had fueled his career. And so I went through this three-part investigation
and in the third part finally landed on the name of one of his biggest donors who had built him up from the beginning
named Robert Schillman who is not just an anti-Palestinian donor who uh donates heavily to friends
of the IDF and to the settlement enterprise in the occupied West Bank but
is an anti-Islam donor has donated loads of money to Steven Yaxley Lenin aka a
Tommy Robinson who's fueling a religious war in the UK to the career of Laura
Loomer to Gilders figures who are hostile to Islam period
and Robert Schillman was early on a big backer of Charlie Kirk and he pulled out
of a $2 million donation. This was, you know, these rumors were going around
in conservative circles and I managed to confirm them with by even getting Robert Schillman himself on the phone. And
then, you know, Candace Owens begins a series of live streams. I mean, she had
been live streaming about this from the beginning, entertaining not just the
facts that, you know, we've confirmed about Charlie Kirk having been alienated
by pro-Israel donors, but, you know, also various theories about his
assassination. And she comes under heavy attack from many of the influencers who
were around Charlie Kirk at the end from the Zionist world who were pushing him to stay in line with Netanyahu who were
basically cutouts for Netanyahu and who were feeding him talking points ahead of
his next campus tour, knowing that he was going to be bombarded with critical questions about his support for Israel
and that he wasn't really particularly enthusiastic to answer them. And so Candace Owens gets attacked. Her
credibility is being called into question. And figures like Josh Hammer,
who is a Newsweek editor at large, sort of a enforcer for Netanyahu in the
media, who is part of these small meetings with Charlie Kirk of less than 10 Zionist activists, feeding him
talking points all the way up to the end. Says Candace Owens is a huge liar. Uh, none of this is true about Charlie
Kirk leaving the fold. he was pro-Israel, ride or die to the very end.
And then she drops the bomb. These text messages showing that Charlie Kirk was
furious with Robert Schillman pulling out the $2 million because he wouldn't
uh he he wouldn't refuse to host Tucker Carlson, who's become very critical of Israel.
and he said, "These Jewish donors are playing to the stereotypes, and after this, I'm done with the
pro-Israel cause." He basically was threatening all of them because he felt blackmailed,
as I reported, for hosting Tucker Carlson, and he said, "If you keep it up, I'm going to bring Candace Owens
back." So, he was really losing it. Candace Owens got a hold of these texts. She released them. She did not reveal
the names of all of the people in these chat groups, but one of them was indeed
Josh Hammer. Now, here's where it gets crazy. Josh Hammer
on September 9th dredged up a Donald Trump tweet from
2013 calling for publicly executing I think
at the time he was calling for publicly executing drug dealers, but it just said they if they're publicly executed that
will send a strong message. It's an old tweet. Josh Hammer just
thought of it for some reason and he tweets it out and quotes quote tweets it
based. You know that's really a cool thing to say. Why why did he tweet that
24 hours before Charlie Kirk was publicly executed? I mean he wasn't publicly assassinated.
I don't have any evidence of Josh Hammer or the Israel lobby being involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination. It's just
weird. And it's also highly dishonest of all of these figures from Bill Aman, the
billionaire Netanyahu cutout to Josh Hammer to all these other figures around
Charlie Kirk to Netanyahu himself who tried to claim his legacy to still assert that Charlie Kirk wanted to
support Israel all the way to the end when their own behavior is what alienated him. He wasn't exactly uh
moved by the suffering of Palestinians. He was still tweeting out anti-Islam
statements. He was probably still trying to hold on to uh Robert Schillman's money.
But in the end, he was he had I mean like 24 hours before he was killed, he had basically lost it and said, "I'm
leaving the pro-Israel cause." And this is before he's going to go on a nationwide campus tour where he's going to be bombarded with questions about
Israel. This could have been potentially disastrous for the Israel lobby and the
cause of Israel in the United States to have its most important non-governmental gentile asset actually criticizing or
entertaining criticism of Israel at these gigantic kind of arena size events.
But we'll never know. Yeah, Max,
when it comes to Charlie Kirk and his movement, do you think that it seems that Israel
somehow feels that they need to do something with the public opinion in the United States? It's not just about the
Charlie K and his movement. It's all about the media in the United States. What is at stake for Israel in the
United States when it comes to media? Well, it's it's this is the way Netanyahu understands it and I and I
guess most Israelis at this point is that they can keep committing genocide and still hold on to the American public
and the Western public in general uh by position positioning themselves as
the saviors of Western civilization. And it's just not working. I mean, if they
would stop shredding children, shredding people, killing anywhere from
90 to 150 people and wounding hundreds every day, senselessly destroying
cities, carrying out ethnic cleansing, which we all can see, despite Twitter X's increasing efforts to censor
everything we see under on the grounds that it's sensitive material, while showing pornography freely. You can see
it on Twitter X with a click of a button. um they they wouldn't need to
invest the foreign ministry's budget of $150 million for the year of 2025 for
husbar or propaganda inside the United States. The Israeli government has just taken
out a $4.5 million contract with a lobbying firm to basic to to attempt to
hack the brains of evangelical Christians going to church in four major
western metropolises, Las Vegas, Phoenix, the Los Angeles area, and
um Denver. And evangelical churches in these areas will
be offered a partnership program to geoence their church area. Meaning that
all churchgoers will have their phones flooded with ads
and programming by the Israeli government through this lobbying firm
promoting Israeli tourism. and they will be given uh v virtual reality October
7th experiences inside the church and then their phones will be targeted with
ads as they leave just simply for entering this geoenced area. It's an
unbelievable psychological attack on American evangelical Christians which I
think will produce more alienation. Brad Parscal, Trump's former campaign
manager, has been given $1.5 million a month in a foreign agent contract from
Israel to not just recruit influencers, but to
uh game the long lang language models of chat GPT and other AI mechanisms in
favor of Israel to essentially uh Zionize the algorithm. I don't know
how they're going to do that. Uh they're also paying influencers, a very small
codery of influencers who are positioned as sort of anti-woke influencers because the problem is now on the right.
They're paying them anywhere between six $6,100
to $7,100 per post to do propaganda posts in
support of Israel. Uh, one potential influencer who's getting this massive
payday is named Lizzie Sevetski, and she recently appeared in an Israeli marina.
She went on what appeared to be a pleasure yacht that belonged to an Israeli and claimed that it had been
captured from the flotilla and that she found a margarita machine, condoms, and
needles, and that the flotillaa passengers were actually shooting up with heroin. So, this is the kind of
propaganda that Israel's paying for. And you can look at the replies to these
posts. It's all negative. There's there are $7,000 per post memes mocking the
influencers. It's producing a horrendous backlash. And so the other talking point
that we're hearing from Israel's bought and paid for influencers is that the negative backlash they're getting is the
result of an Iranian and Qatari influence operation and that Iran and Qatar are the ones that are actually
responsible for all this American anger about the piles of dead civilians in
Gaza. Uh, one of those paid influencers or ostensibly paid influencers is CNN's
Van Jones who made a joke on real time with Bill Maher. Bill Maher being a, you
know, bootlicker of Netanyahu, an anti-Islam new atheist who hosts a show
on HBO. And Van Jones said, you know, Qatar and Iran have young people seeing
pictures of dead Palestinian baby, dead Palestinian baby, Diddy, dead Palestinian baby. And the whole panel,
including Thomas Freriedman, the New York Times columnist, erupted in laughter at this joke about dead
Palestinian babies. But that's the Israeli talking point is that we're not actually reacting to reality. Our
indignation is not pure. It's the result of a foreign influence operation. And
it's pure projection because everything they're doing in our country represents
the most substantial, corrupt, scandalous, and toxic foreign influence
and foreign meddling operation in the history of the United States. It's
simply Israel gate. And yet the media treats it as uh business as usual. And
increasingly the media is controlled by it as Israel moves in through Netanyahu's billionaire cutouts to buy
key US media assets. Max, here is what we saw from Laura
Loomer. She's talking about I don't want to see Laura Loomer. Don't show me Laura. It's too early.
Yeah. Yeah. No, you can show show you can show it. It's okay. I was just joking.
Yeah. What has happened? She's talking about she talked with Congresswoman
Anna Paulina and she Anna Paulina Luna. Yeah. Yeah. They're talking about China being
behind the one of the groups, you know, connected to the FBI investigation
and for ties to Tyler Robinson. It seems that they're trying to connect China to
the case of Charlie Ker. What is that all about? Is the Israel just picking a
fight in order to be closer to the neocons? I would assume neocons are
Zionists and but why do they need to go in that direction that far against
China? Yeah, Laura Loomer is someone who bas who's sort of a I mean you you could
call her a private intelligence figure, but it's not really intelligence that
she's producing. It's more like misinformation and muddying the waters
and smearing on behalf of her clients who include
Israeli cutouts. Anna Paulina Luna, whose real name is Anna Paulina
Meerhoffer and had a career in the let's
say entertainment industry before she was in Congress is also a subject of
major Israeli influence. And what they're simply trying to do is shift the
discussion to an official adversary based on pure conjecture. I mean, Laura
Loomer at the same time is been for weeks she's been promoting this
fear-mongering narrative about an imminent al-Qaeda attack inside US cities. So, everything
that she's trying to do is trying to distract us and deflect from the reality that's staring us in the face. And she
also before Charlie Kirk was killed was heavily attacking him. I mean, she was one of the first people to launch the
attack on Charlie Kirk from the right. That's accusing him of speaking out of both sides of his mouth, of being uh,
you know, on the one hand pro-Israel and at on the other hand hosting Tucker
Carlson and hosting, you know, anti-ionist figures like Dave Smith at his events.
And so, Laura Loomer can't really seem to get her story straight, but who is she speaking for here? I mean, it looks
like right in in this case, she's speaking on Netanyahu's behalf and trying to get Americans or people in the
MAGA world to blame China. And I don't know what she's referring to, what she could possibly be referring to, or where
the evidence is, but it just doesn't stand to reason that China would have any role in this. I mean, Israel was
heavily invested in the career and life of Charlie Kirk. What did China have to
do with any of this? Yeah, yesterday was the anniversary of October
the 7th. You know, the the day that Hamas attack Israel and in the aftermath
of that day, everything has changed in Gaza. Gaza is devastated, destroyed by
Israeli attack. and looking at what has happened Max and
what's going on in the United States because th these people who are against the policies in the Middle East these
are not the farleft progressive people Democratic party and these are to the to
the right side of the Republicans you know like Steve Bannon he's talking he
came out and talk about the case of the Middle East the war against Iran the reality of October the 7th. Before going
to your comment, here is what Steve Bannon said on his podcast.
Netanyahu have to trumped up, totally trumped up, bald-faced lie about the
Persians. They had greater strategic ambitions and they didn't care if they sucked the United States into a 20 or
30-year war. Those days are over. President Trump has asserted himself that, hey, you are a protected. What did
say? He's given orders, right? He's given orders the way it should be. If
they want to go do it on their own, hey, God bless you. Go. Go for it. But do not suck us in. We're not in for this.
It's outrageous what has happened over the last couple years. And we still don't have an investigation on October
7th. And believe me, if the hands were clean of Netanyahu, you would had an investigation and been out in 30 days.
Write that down with your number two principle because that that's going to come and you're going to be shocked by
it. There's no way that just kind of happened.
You know what's important about Steve Bannon that he's reaching the sort of audience that the left and the
progressive cannot reach and that's important for the for Israelis. your
take on that? Well, Steve Bannon's been pushed out. I mean, he was pushed out first by Elon
Musk. Um, he is no longer chief of
staff. He's sort of in the wilderness trying to wage this America first fight
and he's become hostile to he was he was this was a longtime supporter of Israel.
Steve Bannon was one of the founders of Breitbart with Andrew Breitbart, which
was founded actually out of a meeting in Jerusalem with Benjamin Netanyahu, who
seemingly promised money from his cabal of millionaires inside the United States
for a new set of online conservative magazines. One of them was Gateway Pundit. Another one is Breitbart. And
Steve Bannon pro proudly declared that Breitbart under his watch after Andrew
Breitbart's untimely death was the most pro-Israel
magazine in America. And now you can see the shift. He refers to Israel as a
protectorate. He can see finally now that he's out of the administration or maybe based on what he saw inside the
administration that Israel's interests are not aligned with the US. In fact,
they contravene the US and that Israel as the ultimate frennemy has more power to harm US strategic interests than an a
supposed adversary. Steve Bannon is in the anti-China camp and he believes that
Israel is dragging the US into a multi-generational devastating conflict with Iran that is
draining its stockpiles of THAD missiles which would have been given to Taiwan
and other Indo-Pacific vassel states that are supposed to wage the frontline war against China. And so
Steve Bannon from an imperialist perspective sees Israel as an um an
obstacle if not a parasitic force that is just draining the lifeblood of the US
military and US empire. And another figure in the the camp, the Israel
critical camp that is incipient on the America first right is Matt Gates who
hosted me on his show on one American news about Charlie Kirk in Israel. And
Matt Gates was just on an an episode of Tim P where he was
reflecting on his time in Congress and going to Apac before he sort of had an
awakening. And he said that every member of Congress would wear a QR code and Apac members could simply take a photo
of the QR code or scan the QR code with their phones in order to donate to that
member of Congress. Um, imagine how alienating that is to be treated like
you're almost at some kind of slave auction surrounded by these donors representing
a foreign state. So the alienation continues to grow. It was the same
alienation Charlie Kirk felt in his last days and last moments as he was basically being besieged by Netanyahu's
cutouts. It's the same alienation that was exuded by Tucker Carlson in his last
mono, I think a historic mono, when he just raised the question that many of us
who started to question this relationship many years ago, especially on the left, asked, which is,
how is this tiny little country able to dominate and influence an unparalleled
global superpower? How does that even make sense? and how is that good for
this country? And he he went on for 20 more minutes about
that before bringing on Jeffrey Saxs, someone I don't know if you've hosted him, but you know, is he's making the
anti-Imperial geopolitical circuit uh even more electrifying than it currently
is?
Max, do you think that after all are we going to find out what has happened on October the 7th?
Well, I mean, I think we know more or less what happened, and that we have circumstantial evidence, or I don't want to call it evidence even, but there are various incidents that make many people, particularly in the west who haven't been on the ground in the southern Gaza envelope in Israel, or in the Gaza Strip itself, aren't really familiar with the resistance, and who consider Israel to be this omnipotent force with an all-seeing eye, that makes them believe that it was sort of an inside job, and that Israel not only supported Hamas secretly, but let it happen. And certainly there is evidence that Israel has benefited in certain ways from October 7th. But all we have is these circumstantial pieces of evidence. For example, members of the Givati brigade not entering a kibbutz on time, the female spotters in the Gaza division detecting unusual activity, and then the command back at Hakiraa and Tel Aviv not responding immediately. Intelligence warnings beforehand, but this is always underway. And for years and years, Israel has been detecting unusual activity, and warning of some kind of attack. But it's pretty clear to me that the Israeli intelligence services and military heavily underestimated the capacity of the Alcasam brigades, and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and that they were outsmarted on that day by Mohammed Sinwar, someone who was in Israeli prisons for 25 years, spoke fluent Hebrew, understood Israel's societal weaknesses, had a theory of change based on the Gilad Shalit prisoner swap, which he negotiated personally from prison, negotiated his own release, and he understood how to evade Israel's collaborator network in Gaza. Because why was he in prison for 25 years? Because he was in charge of counter espionage on behalf of the early phases of Alcasam, and had killed Palestinian spies for Israel inside Gaza. So he was perfectly positioned to orchestrate this operation. Israel was prepared for a tunnel attack, and what did the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades do? They simply went through a fence, and pounced on extremely lazy conscripts: the female spotters, and their sleeping male guards at military bases.
During their years of military service, they say they’ve grown accustomed to the fact that they “don’t count.” Nor was any notice given to the repeated warnings they raised before Hamas’ infiltration on Black Saturday. Warnings that, it seems to them, were going in one IDF earpiece and out the other.
These included reports about Hamas’ preparations near the border fence, its drone activity in recent months, its efforts to knock out cameras, the extensive use of vans and motorcycles, and even rehearsals for the shelling of tanks.
The spotters believe Hamas was actually being rather negligent: it didn’t try to hide anything and its actions were out in the open....
In some ways, the hours leading up to the morning of October 7 were quite ordinary. Noga, a spotter stationed at the IDF’s intelligence unit at Kissufim, close to the Gaza border, spotted an unfamiliar, suspicious-looking man standing in front of one of the barrier gates erected along the Gaza Strip border.
Her report reached Lt. Col. Meir Ohayon, commander of the 51st Battalion in the Golani Brigade, who at 3 A.M. made his way to the location and, after sighting the man, fired tear gas at him. The suspect turned back and went to a Hamas observation post about 300 meters (nearly 1,000 feet) from the fence, which is the distance at which Palestinians are allowed to stay. The spotter observed several other people at the same position, and it seemed to her that a briefing was being held there.
All of the above seemed unusual and disturbing to her, so she shared her feelings with the other spotters as well as the on-duty commander. However, at the end of a discussion that lasted about a minute in the operations room and in consultation with the division, it was decided to return to normal.
“I’m sorry I had to wake you at this hour,” the spotter apologized to Ohayon, “but I still think there’s something strange here.”...
While she had been trying to understand who the suspicious figure was and what he was up to, the IDF and Shin Bet security service had already held discussions following a warning about a terrorist infiltration. It was serious enough for the senior officials to decide (on the Friday evening) to increase the presence of special forces in the south, sending a specialist team trained to deal with terror squads.
Another team from the Shin Bet operational unit and a force from the commando unit were also placed on alert. An elite IDF team from Sayeret Matkal was also dispatched to the area. However, no one in the Southern Command or its Gaza Division bothered to inform the dozens of young women serving as spotters at the Kissufim and Nahal Oz army bases of that. This did not even change at 4 A.M., when it was decided to put the Gaza border communities themselves on alert for fear of possible infiltration....
At around 6:30 A.M., Noga still found time to report about the “infiltration” protocol for communities and military bases, all while hearing the gunfire and shouting of the terrorists outside the command center where she was stationed.
In the spotters’ WhatsApp group, friends from Nahal Oz were already reporting that terrorists were everywhere, that people had been killed and kidnapped, and that there was nowhere to run. At 7:17 A.M., the last message was received in the group, signed by spotters from Nahal Oz: “Tell everyone that we love them and thanks for everything.”...
They can pinpoint seemingly pivotal incidents going back months. For instance, Talia, who has served as a spotter in the Gaza Division for about 18 months and is therefore considered something of a veteran, recounts: “A month before the war, I was sitting in the command center in Kissufim and at around 7 A.M. dozens of cars and vans arrived in the area I’m responsible for, near one of Hamas’ observation towers. After a few minutes, a luxury car stopped next to them – the type of car very few people in Gaza have, so definitely Hamas.”
“I didn’t recognize all of them, but it was clear to me that these men were from Nukhba [Hamas’ special forces], because some of them had ski masks over their faces so as not to be identified. They left there for a briefing that lasted a long time, 30 to 40 minutes, with binoculars, pointing to the Israeli side.”
Talia says she wanted to try to identify the men and see what was in their vehicles – so she pointed the cameras to one of the senior people there and zoomed in.
“He gestured to me, wagging his finger – ‘nu, nu, nu,’” she recounts, admitting her shock because the camera was located on a high pole at a great distance from where the group was standing, but he knew exactly where it was.
At that stage, she called in her commander. I told her they can see me, that he’s talking to me through the camera,” she recalls. “She also saw this and didn’t know how to react to it.”
After the Gazans left, Talia says she received a report from a more northerly lookout post that the same group had returned and was stopping in different spots along the length of the Gaza Strip.
For Talia and the other spotters on duty that day, this looked like a briefing prior to an operation against Israel – and they acted accordingly.
“We flagged the event, we reported that it was unusual and that they could see us,” she recalls. “We reported that it was a briefing by senior [Hamas] officials who we could not recognize. But until today, it’s not clear what [the IDF] did with that information.”
She says her commanders also tried to pass this information up the chain of command. However, as relatively low-ranking officers, these women “are just as helpless as we are before the senior commanders – and certainly before the division and regional command,” Talia says. “Nobody really pays any attention to us....
This was also the case when Hamas drones started flying regularly in their sector.
“In the past couple of months, they began to put up drones every day, sometimes twice a day, that came really close to the border,” says another spotter, Ilana. “Up to 300 meters from the fence – sometimes less than that. A month and a half before the war, we saw that in one of Hamas’ training camps, they had built an exact replica of an armed observation post, just like the ones we have. They started to train there with drones, to hit the observation post.”
Ilana recounts how they passed this information on according to protocol, but even went beyond that: “We yelled at our commanders that they have to take us more seriously, that something bad is happening here. We understood that the behavior in the field was very strange, that they were basically training for an attack against us. Until now, nobody has come and told us what was done with this information.”
And then on Black Saturday, when they saw the drones blowing up their observation posts one after the other, the spotters knew where this was headed. “We knew from the moment the attack began: this was exactly what was happening in the last month and a half of their training,” Ilana says....
“In the last year, they started to remove pieces of iron from the fence,” says Adi, citing an example of what was written in another report that might be buried in some drawer somewhere. And there’s more.
“In my sector, they built a precise model of a Merkava IV tank and trained on it all the time,” says another spotter from the Gaza Division. “They trained on how to hit a tank with an RPG, where exactly to hit it and then, in front of our eyes, they trained on how to capture the tank crew.”
She says the spotters tried warning that these training exercises were actually increasing in intensity, “that there were more people taking part, and that they were being done with additional Hamas units coming in from other areas.”
They also noticed that vans and motorcycles were frequently being used in the training. And when protests started taking place by the border [in the months prior to the attack], they observed that “there are Hamas operatives who are constantly examining the places where we are less effective with the cameras. They really planned everything down to the smallest detail. Anyone who says today that it was unavoidable or that it was impossible to know – that’s a lie.”...
“They knew much more about us than we thought,” says another spotter, Liat. “Today I know, and my friends are also sure of it, that they studied us in depth. Not just where we were sitting and observing from. They did an insane job.”...
Hamas didn’t do this under the radar....
In April, Smadar sat at the lookout post in Kissufim and noticed something new at one of Hamas’ training camps. “They had built a precise model of the border area,“ she says. “They trained there on how to break through the fence. Contrary to what the IDF thought, their training was for infiltration on the ground, not from tunnels. As time passed, their training became more intensive.”
About a month and a half before the attack, that training apparently shifted up a gear.
“We started to see them getting 300 meters from the fence, and their trainers stood with stopwatches and measured how much time it took them to run to the fence, to reach it, and to return to their positions. We knew there was something [happening],” says Liat. According to her, even though disturbances were also taking place near the fence, “the forces we sent did practically nothing – even the warning shots stopped. Combat soldiers would arrive, fire tear gas and leave.”
A month before the war, there was an apparent change of approach among some spotters: A senior officer from the Gaza Division came to the operations room on one of the bases along the Gaza border in order to talk about the sector, so one of the spotters decided to tell him exactly what was on her mind.
“I told him there was going to be a war and we’re simply not ready,” she says, recalling the conversation. “That what’s happening with Hamas along the border fence is not normal. That they’re mocking the IDF, that our hands are tied and we’re not even [firing] warning shots.”
The response of the senior officer was to ask for her name, to regard her with admonishing eyes and to “put her in her place” for having the temerity to address him directly rather than going through the proper channels.
“He said to me, ‘I’ve been in the sector since 2010. I was a commander here, an intelligence officer, I know Gaza inside-out, and I’m telling you that everything’s fine. You’re here only six months and I’ve been here 12 years. I know the sector like the back of my hand.”
Someone who has known the sector for less time – but still in depth – is Einat, a spotter from Nahal Oz. That Saturday, she was at home (“in the safe room with the family”), but recognized immediately what was about to happen.
“As soon as I understood that there was such a large infiltration, I told [my family]: ‘There’s a Hamas raid, they’ll kidnap soldiers and charge into the residential communities.’ I even told them there was no way they weren’t coming with paragliders. They looked at me like I was crazy. I started shouting that we knew there would be something and no one would listen to us.”
-- The Women Soldiers Who Warned of a Pending Hamas Attack – and Were Ignored: Over the past year, the Israel Defense Forces’ spotters situated on the Gaza border, all women, warned that something unusual was happening. Those who survived the October 7 massacre are convinced that if it had been men sounding the alarm, things would look different today, by Yaniv Kubovich, Haaretz, Nov 20, 2023
And after knocking out the military bases, were easily able to enter the kibbutzim, and take large amounts of captives. And by the time Apache helicopters were in the air, and tanks were on the ground, they were given orders to enact the Hannibal directive, which I think is the real scandal of the day. How many Israeli civilians were killed by the Israeli military? And we're now learning that on Zikim Beach, which is the closest beach to Gaza, at around 6:00 a.m. when Kasam militants arrived in a rubber boat and began an attack on the Zakim naval base, something that, by the way, Hamas has attacked before -- a frogman team was able to attack the Zakim naval base in 2014 so this isn't unprecedented -- at that point, an Israeli naval boat began opening fire on the entire beach, and slaughtered possibly dozens of Israeli beachgoers. This is newly released material. Much of that massacre appears to have been recorded by the victims on their phones, and by a couple of survivors. And the Israeli military has wiped their phones clean, and will not release the footage, as they go around the world trying to show every influential person their curated version of what took place on October 7th. I think it's possible hundreds of Israeli citizens were killed by the Israeli military on that day. And that complements the 350 or so Israeli soldiers, active duty combatants, who were killed by Hamas militants on that day.
Just before wrapping up, Max, we know that CBS News has a new head, Bari Weiss, and on her first expose since becoming the head of CBS News, she launched a campaign to defend Van Jones, and you've mentioned what has happened with him.
Let me see that. That's amazing.
Yeah, when you look at who Bari Weiss is, and what she is trying to do for Israel, and how capable these people could be in terms of the public opinion and the changes that they want to cause in the United States.
Yeah. I just think I think they'll produce more polarization and alienation. But no one watches CBS News. And what they're seeking to do is prevent legacy media from shifting away from the traditional pro-Israel line, and at least showing the humanitarian situation in Gaza. They've neutralized a major media asset. And then what they'll do is they'll use the brand of this asset that's still trusted by people over 50 or 60 in the United States, to legitimize the Likudnik pro-Israel narrative on certain issues.
But there's a deeper issue here. Let me first cover the Israel angle.
For those who don't know, CBS News was acquired through the sale of Paramount to a company called Sky Dance, which is owned by David Ellison. David Ellison is the son of Larry Ellison, who is a billionaire data merchant who owns Oracle, a CIA contractor. And Larry Ellison is a died-in-the-wool Jewish Zionist who is close to Benjamin Netanyahu, has hosted him on his private island, is on the board of Friends of the IDF, and his son, as we reported at the Grey Zone, sourcing reporting from Jack Paulson another journalist, was actually involved in a plan called 12 tribes, where the Israeli government, back in 2015, was recruiting 12 Zionist billionaires in the US to fund spying and sabotage activities against Palestine solidarity activism in the US. So that's who the CBS owner is, a guy who effectively is operating as an Israeli spy. So Israel bought this.
Israel has essentially bought Tik Tok as well. Larry Ellison fronted that sale. He's providing the infrastructure, and then the money came from Andreessen Horowitz. Marc Andreessen, venture capitalist, is a backer of Bari Weiss, and is also involved in drone technology. And his partner is Ben Horowitz, who's the son of one of the most prolific, and disgusting, anti-Palestinian agitators in US history, David Horowitz, who was actually an early mentor to Charlie Kirk.
So they want to buy social media. I think that's more important. They take social media off the table, and everyone's getting banned on Tik Tok for even mentioning Aipac. Now we're on the verge of being banned at The GrayZone. It's over. Netanyahu has called for Tik Tok to be bought. That's the bigger sort of threat to our ability to express ourselves and actually have a debate.
But Bari Weiss has been installed at CBS by David Ellison. And Bari Weiss is 41 years old. Her whole career has been dedicated to advancing the cause of Israel, and she's burrowed herself within the sort of anti-woke center-right movement, positioning herself as a voice of common sense against, you know, trans women being allowed in girls' locker rooms, and at the end of the whole COVID hysteria she suddenly as she was calling for everyone to get vaccinated, she suddenly decided to come out as an opponent of the lockdowns, after it became obvious that it was a disaster.
And she's positioning CBS News through her newsletter, the Free Press. So basically, after leaving the New York Times, claiming it was, you know, a liberal-infested hive of the woke mind virus, she had this comeback through a publication called Free Press. And that has been the vehicle for installing her at CBS. David Ellison bought the Free Press for $150 million. That was its valuation. And she falsely claimed that she had 1.5 million subscribers. Almost none of them are paid subscribers. And anyone watching this, compare the YouTube viewership of Dialogue Works, or The Grayzone, and we're heavily suppressed on YouTube to that of the Free Press. No one's watching the Free Press. None of their videos go viral. They're boring. And if you look at their studios, compared to my studio, or Nima's studio, their studios are elaborate. It's like this inviting living room, with neon signs, and expensive leather chairs, and Persian rugs. We can't afford that. So who's backing the Free Press?
This goes a little bit beyond Israel, but it's a tie-in to Israel. The Free Press is backed by Palantir co-founder Joe Lansdale. I believe other Palantir co-founders, like Alex Karp are involved, and Marc Andreessen, who I mentioned before. These are like the tech AI warlords that are taking over our country. And David Sachs, who is a tech billionaire who has a White House position now. He's the sort of Czar of AI and crypto policy, and he's steering crypto in favor of Trump who's doing all these memecoin rug pulls. This is corrupt in itself.
But Bari Weiss maintains control over the Free Press, and she's at CBS. And it looks like figures like David Sachs, who are in the White House, made money off the sale of the Free Press, because they were investors. So basically her installation at CBS is benefiting a class of AI warlords who are all ultra-Zionists, in violation of CBS's own ethics code, which is published on its website. And she's out there thanking them all. "Thank you Joe Lansdale."
They also created a fake university for Bari Weiss in Austin, the capital of Texas. And she has a bust of herself in the entrance. And Joe Lansdale, Palantir co-founder, is the chairman of this fake university. So at CBS, she is going to likely promote the interests of the tech warlords, including one in the White House, who made money off of her career. She basically owes it to them.
So what we're witnessing is not just sort of an Israeli takeover of a major legacy media asset, but a corruption scandal about financial and political conflicts of interest, which CBS, and the rest of the media, refuses to address. Because if you look at the way that mainstream US media is treating this, they're not saying anything about the corruption, and the conflicts of interest. And they're burying the Israel angle. That's where we're at, and that's why people are are turning away from corporate media, and watching Dialogue Works and The GrayZone, because they can see through it.
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Headline: State Department Revokes Visas of Foreign Nationals over Charlie Kirk Comments
by Amy Goodman
DemocracyNow
Oct 15, 2025
The U.S. State Department says it’s revoking the visas of six foreign nationals over social media comments they made about the assassination of far-right activist Charlie Kirk. On X, the State Department posted, “The United States has no obligation to host foreigners who wish death on Americans. The State Department continues to identify visa holders who celebrated the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk.” The thread then went on to list examples of posts by the foreigners, identifying them as citizens of Argentina, Brazil, Germany, Mexico, Paraguay and South Africa. It comes as President Trump posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Charlie Kirk during a White House Rose Garden ceremony on Tuesday.
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Anti-Fascism Scholar Flees U.S. Fearing for His Family’s Safety Amid Trump’s “Antifa” Fearmongering
by Amy Goodman
DemocracyNow
October 15, 2025
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/10/15 ... transcript
"Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook"
We speak with Rutgers University professor Mark Bray, who fled from the U.S. to Spain with his family after receiving death threats over his scholarship. He is the author of the 2017 book Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, which explores the history and tactics of anti-fascist movements in Europe, the United States and beyond. Turning Point USA, the conservative campus group founded by Charlie Kirk, had called for Bray’s firing and branded him “Dr. Antifa.” This comes as the Trump administration has dramatically escalated its war on dissent following Kirk’s assassination, using his death as pretext to launch an assault on activists, organizations and speech it disagrees with.
“What we’re seeing today in the U.S. is increasingly fascist. MAGA, I believe — and I study fascism, I don’t say this lightly — is a fascist movement,” says Bray, referring to Trump’s political movement.
President Trump signed an executive order designating antifa as a terrorist organization, but Bray stresses there is no such organization; anti-fascism is a loose political movement or ideology akin to feminism, but Trump is using the label to “demonize resistance” to his policies.
Transcript
This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.
AMY GOODMAN: We begin today’s show with the war on antifa that the Trump administration has ratcheted up in the aftermath of the conservative activist Charlie Kirk being assassinated last month. Yesterday, President Trump posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Charlie Kirk at a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden.
Trump recently signed an executive order purporting to designate antifa as a domestic terrorist organization, even though it’s not really an organization. Antifa is actually a shortening of the term “anti-fascist” and is a term that arose in Europe for the movement against the Nazis, both before and after World War II. The decentralized movement in the U.S. today draws on this history.
Several high-level Republicans have accused this Saturday’s “No Kings Day” protests of being organized by antifa. U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said last week the administration will take the, quote, “same approach” to antifa as it has to drug cartels it’s bombed in the Caribbean. This is Bondi on Fox News last night.
ATTORNEY GENERAL PAM BONDI: That’s one of the things about antifa. You’ve heard President Trump say multiple times they are organized, they are a criminal organization. And they’re very organized. You’re seeing people out there with thousands of signs that all match, pre-bought, pre-put together. They’re organized, and someone is funding it.
AMY GOODMAN: This comes as Los Angeles County officials voted Tuesday to declare a state of emergency over ongoing federal immigration raids they say have, quote, “caused widespread fear,” unquote.
Violent attacks by federal agents at protests against immigrant raids have also been documented in Chicago and Portland. On Tuesday, Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson [was asked] if he would call for more oversight of federal agents. He responded by complaining about a naked bike ride protest against ICE in Portland, Oregon, which Trump has called a war zone.
SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON: To demand oversight on federal law enforcement? I’ve not seen them cross the line yet, and that we have committees of jurisdiction who have that responsibility, but it’s not risen to that level. What I’ve seen is the abuse of law enforcement by radical leftist activists. You know, most recently, the most threatening thing I’ve seen yet was the naked bicyclers in Portland who were protesting ICE down there. I mean, it’s getting really ugly.
AMY GOODMAN: Experts are increasingly raising concerns the Trump administration’s attacks on antifa are ungrounded in fact and law, and violate free speech rights.
For more, we’re joined by someone who knows a lot about all of this. Mark Bray is a Rutgers University history professor, author of the 2017 book, Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook. Last week, he was forced to leave his home in New Jersey and move to Spain with his family after receiving death threats following Trump’s push to categorize the anti-fascist movement as a domestic terrorist organization. Charlie Kirk’s group, Turning Point USA, had also circulated a petition labeling him “Dr. Antifa” and calling for him to be fired.
In a remarkable development, Bray was at first blocked from flying out of the United States last week. He wrote on Bluesky, “Someone canceled my family’s flight out of the country at the last second. We got our boarding passes. We checked our bags. Went through security. Then at our gate our reservation 'disappeared.'” They later took another flight, and professor Mark Bray joins us now from Spain.
Thanks so much for being with us. I’m sorry you’ve gone through all this, Professor Bray. If you can start off by talking about why you left the country and what happened, as we try to follow what was happening to you at the airport?
MARK BRAY: Right. So, I published this book, Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, in 2017. I’m actually researching different historical topics now. But after Trump’s executive order, a series of far-right trolls, online influencers started attacking me. I received a number of death threats. Someone published my home address on X. So I started to fear for the safety of my family staying in our home. More and more death threats came in, and I knew I needed to get away. Getting to another country, getting across the ocean would make us feel much more comfortable.
As you said, our first flight was mysteriously canceled at the last moment. My two small children were sobbing. We had to regroup. The next day, as you said —
AMY GOODMAN: I want to ask: When you —
MARK BRAY: — I told — yeah.
AMY GOODMAN: I just want to ask: When say your flight was canceled, you went to — what was it? Newark Airport? Or Kennedy?
MARK BRAY: Yes, Newark.
AMY GOODMAN: And you got — and you got your boarding passes, and you went through security. So you were all set. And you got —
MARK BRAY: Yes.
AMY GOODMAN: — to the gate. And what did they tell you?
MARK BRAY: Right. Well, there was an error. They had us step to the side to talk to the United worker at the desk. There were a series of phone calls and mumbling. And they basically said, at the last moment, someone had canceled our reservation — not the whole flight, just for the four of us, for me, my wife and our two small children. And this is around the same time that Andy Ngo and Jack Posobiec, two of the far-right provocateurs who had been harassing me online, were meeting in the White House with President Trump to discuss antifa. I just can’t believe it’s a coincidence.
AMY GOODMAN: And yet, you were able to rebook the next day, and you made it through security, and you actually made it onto the flight?
MARK BRAY: Well, this time, I was stopped, searched and interrogated by federal agents for an hour. And at one point, they took me into a side room, and my two kids saw what looked like very bad men taking me in another room, and they started sobbing. So, it was quite an ordeal even the next day. But I made it out. And frankly, I’m very fearful about the potential of returning, but hopefully, by next year, things will improve.
AMY GOODMAN: I mean, this is astounding. You weren’t trying to come into the United States. You were trying to leave. And you are an American citizen — not that that should have mattered.
MARK BRAY: And I’m not being charged with any crimes. If anything, I’m the victim of crimes. I wrote a book eight years ago. I consider myself politically an anti-fascist — I detest fascism — but I’m not a member of any antifa group. I’m a professor. I’m a dad. I’m just trying to live my life here. But, of course, because the far right is trying to create a bogeyman term in “antifa” to equate protests with terrorism, I got caught up in the middle of this.
AMY GOODMAN: So, you are the author, Professor Bray, of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook. If you can explain what antifa is and what it means for President Trump to have issued this executive order calling it a terrorist — domestic terrorist organization? Is it even an organization? Talk about antifa now and through history.
MARK BRAY: Right. So, as you said, it’s a term that is short for “anti-fascist” or “anti-fascism.” It’s originally German from the era of opposition to Hitler. After World War II, anti-fascism continued throughout the world, and the specific European tradition of what they called antifa spread to other countries around the world. For example, in the U.S., you had Anti-Racist Action in the ’80s and ’90s, which was a network of decentralized groups across the continent organizing against the far right.
The term “antifa” really kind of made its appearance in the U.S. in the late 2000s, but it’s not an organization. It’s more of a politics or a movement. I liken it to feminism. Sometimes there are feminist groups, but feminism itself is not a group. There are antifa groups, but antifa itself is not a group. It’s just sort of like more of a verb. It’s a thing you do to organize against the far right in decentralized groups.
Trump, of course, doesn’t care about any of that. It’s a useful bogeyman term to demonize protest, demonize resistance, equate it with terrorism. And it’s really, you know, an obvious page out of the textbooks about fascist and authoritarian leaders. It’s so — it’s such an obvious imitation of, you know, the kind of the Red Scare talk about communism, but applied to today.
AMY GOODMAN: It’s very interesting you’ve moved to Spain. I mean, for years we’ve covered the Abraham Lincoln Brigadistas, Brigade, those Americans who went to Spain, where you are now, to fight against the fascist Franco. Many of them died. Many of them came back. And this was just before World War II. They were the most experienced, presumably, in fighting. But when a number of them signed up to fight in World War II, to fight Hitler, they were labeled “premature anti-fascists.” Can you talk about that? And they were not allowed to fight in World War II.
MARK BRAY: Right. So, there were a lot of activists and leftists in the U.S. and around the world who realized the threat of Hitler well before mainstream society. And a number of them journeyed over to Spain to fight in the international brigades. A significant number of them lost their lives. Some of them returned. They were blacklisted in the U.S.
And it is also worth pointing out that a number of Spanish Civil War veterans from other countries who ended up going to France after the Spanish Civil War played important roles in the French underground. And there was a tank battalion of Spanish anarchists that were among the first to liberate Paris in 1945. It’s a fascinating history. It’s the one that I — I teach a course on the Spanish Civil War.
So, it is strange to sort of have these things twisted around. And I ended up going to Spain because I’m a historian of Spain. But I’ve received a lot of solidarity and support from the social movements here. And actually, there’s a general strike today in Spain for Palestine, as well — just to throw into your news report.
AMY GOODMAN: We had you on last in 2017 to discuss your book, Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, when it first came out. In the introduction, you wrote you hoped your work would promote organizing against fascism and white supremacy. Can you elaborate?
MARK BRAY: Right. So, anti-fascism has a broad history. In the U.S., certainly, there’s the European-inspired antifa tradition. There’s also a really good book called The Black Antifascist Tradition that talks about the role of anti-fascism in Black liberation struggles, Black Panthers and so forth, which I suggest people check out. So, it takes many different forms.
What it has in common is actually this impulse towards unity and putting aside the differences that often divide the left, in the interest of promoting the common struggle against fascism, against white supremacy. And what we’re seeing today in the U.S. is increasingly fascist. MAGA, I believe — and I study fascism, I don’t say this lightly — is a fascist movement. And if we don’t organize, if we don’t take action in the streets, we’re going to end up somewhere really bad.
And for me personally, I felt like my situation was such that I had to get my family out of harm’s way. But this story about me is about me, but it’s not really about me. It’s about attacks on academic freedom, free speech, the right to protest. We’re in a really dangerous situation. And so, everyone, in their own way, needs to take action to try and organize against this.
AMY GOODMAN: I mean, it’s interesting. You remind me of Timothy Snyder, as well as Jason Stanley, the two Yale professors, who also left the country. They’ve gone to Canada to teach, both having written books against fascism and tyranny. I wanted to ask you about U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi’s comments, saying the administration will take the, quote, “same approach” to antifa as it has to drug cartels it’s bombed in the Caribbean. The latest bombing, I think, took place yesterday, killing a number of people. Even Republican politicians, behind closed doors, are saying, “Where is the evidence?” for who these people are, who have been killed by the U.S. bombs. Mark Bray, your response to Pam Bondi?
MARK BRAY: Right. Well, the paradox of fascism is that while it’s trying to gain power, it talks about the need for law and order, and to the degree that it gains power, it tramples all over the law. It does not care about the law or legality, due process, civil liberties. And so, this kind of call to murder people in this country, without, of course, even having gone through any due process — not that I’m in favor of capital punishment anyway, but that’s another story — it is this kind of example of calling for the strongman, in Trump, to use deadly force, without any evidence, against people accused of made-up crimes that are being equated with — you know, at times, some of the Trump administration people have compared it to — ISIS to antifa, right? So, to me, it’s really this kind of fascist attack on civil liberties.
And if they’re equating protesters with antifa, and they’re saying that they’re going to use the methods used for the people in the boats in the Caribbean on antifa, the implication is they are ready to kill American protesters. And, you know, we know the history of Kent State — right? — where students were gunned down in the '60s. It could happen again if we're not careful. So we really need to be very vigilant about this.
AMY GOODMAN: Do you think progressive groups, groups that care about democracy, free speech, across the political spectrum, are pushing back enough around the attack on anti-fascists?
MARK BRAY: Well, you know, I think there’s always room for more action. And I think that my main takeaway for viewers today is that whether or not you consider yourself an anti-fascist, anyone who has any critiques of Trump is potentially in the crosshairs here, because there’s a concerted project from the top to equate protest with terrorism and to say anyone who’s not a Trump supporter is basically the equivalent of ISIS. You can’t make this stuff up. It’s absolutely ridiculous. They don’t care at all about grounding in fact or information. It’s something that plays to their base and justifies attempts to step beyond due process to use, apparently, lethal force against dissidents. This is terrifying. And so, everyone really needs to do what they can to sound the alarm.
AMY GOODMAN: Finally, I wanted to ask you about the Rutgers students calling for the university to support you, wanting Rutgers President William Tate to issue a statement, a, quote, “Resolution in Support of Professor Mark Bray’s Academic Freedom and Free Expression.” This apparently is slated for consideration and vote Friday by the Rutgers University Senate. Your response, Professor Bray?
MARK BRAY: Well, I’ve received a tremendous amount of support from the Rutgers faculty, from the student body and from the administration. I support that call. I hope it passes. I would very much appreciate a statement of direct support from President Tate. But, you know, to his credit, he did issue a statement in support of the free speech and academic freedom of all Rutgers faculty, which did not mention me directly, but I think, implicitly, supported my right to do my scholarship in accord with my job. But, you know, again, the Rutgers community has been fantastic, and especially given attacks on higher education across the country, the way that some subjects have been, basically, straight-up banned in states like Florida, I’m happy to be a professor at Rutgers.
AMY GOODMAN: Mark Bray, Rutgers University history professor, author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook. He’s just moved his family to Spain after receiving death threats following President Trump’s push to categorize the anti-fascist movement as a domestic terrorist organization.
by Amy Goodman
DemocracyNow
Oct 15, 2025
The U.S. State Department says it’s revoking the visas of six foreign nationals over social media comments they made about the assassination of far-right activist Charlie Kirk. On X, the State Department posted, “The United States has no obligation to host foreigners who wish death on Americans. The State Department continues to identify visa holders who celebrated the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk.” The thread then went on to list examples of posts by the foreigners, identifying them as citizens of Argentina, Brazil, Germany, Mexico, Paraguay and South Africa. It comes as President Trump posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Charlie Kirk during a White House Rose Garden ceremony on Tuesday.
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Anti-Fascism Scholar Flees U.S. Fearing for His Family’s Safety Amid Trump’s “Antifa” Fearmongering
by Amy Goodman
DemocracyNow
October 15, 2025
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/10/15 ... transcript
"Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook"
We speak with Rutgers University professor Mark Bray, who fled from the U.S. to Spain with his family after receiving death threats over his scholarship. He is the author of the 2017 book Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, which explores the history and tactics of anti-fascist movements in Europe, the United States and beyond. Turning Point USA, the conservative campus group founded by Charlie Kirk, had called for Bray’s firing and branded him “Dr. Antifa.” This comes as the Trump administration has dramatically escalated its war on dissent following Kirk’s assassination, using his death as pretext to launch an assault on activists, organizations and speech it disagrees with.
“What we’re seeing today in the U.S. is increasingly fascist. MAGA, I believe — and I study fascism, I don’t say this lightly — is a fascist movement,” says Bray, referring to Trump’s political movement.
President Trump signed an executive order designating antifa as a terrorist organization, but Bray stresses there is no such organization; anti-fascism is a loose political movement or ideology akin to feminism, but Trump is using the label to “demonize resistance” to his policies.
Transcript
This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.
AMY GOODMAN: We begin today’s show with the war on antifa that the Trump administration has ratcheted up in the aftermath of the conservative activist Charlie Kirk being assassinated last month. Yesterday, President Trump posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Charlie Kirk at a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden.
Trump recently signed an executive order purporting to designate antifa as a domestic terrorist organization, even though it’s not really an organization. Antifa is actually a shortening of the term “anti-fascist” and is a term that arose in Europe for the movement against the Nazis, both before and after World War II. The decentralized movement in the U.S. today draws on this history.
Several high-level Republicans have accused this Saturday’s “No Kings Day” protests of being organized by antifa. U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said last week the administration will take the, quote, “same approach” to antifa as it has to drug cartels it’s bombed in the Caribbean. This is Bondi on Fox News last night.
ATTORNEY GENERAL PAM BONDI: That’s one of the things about antifa. You’ve heard President Trump say multiple times they are organized, they are a criminal organization. And they’re very organized. You’re seeing people out there with thousands of signs that all match, pre-bought, pre-put together. They’re organized, and someone is funding it.
AMY GOODMAN: This comes as Los Angeles County officials voted Tuesday to declare a state of emergency over ongoing federal immigration raids they say have, quote, “caused widespread fear,” unquote.
Violent attacks by federal agents at protests against immigrant raids have also been documented in Chicago and Portland. On Tuesday, Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson [was asked] if he would call for more oversight of federal agents. He responded by complaining about a naked bike ride protest against ICE in Portland, Oregon, which Trump has called a war zone.
SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON: To demand oversight on federal law enforcement? I’ve not seen them cross the line yet, and that we have committees of jurisdiction who have that responsibility, but it’s not risen to that level. What I’ve seen is the abuse of law enforcement by radical leftist activists. You know, most recently, the most threatening thing I’ve seen yet was the naked bicyclers in Portland who were protesting ICE down there. I mean, it’s getting really ugly.
AMY GOODMAN: Experts are increasingly raising concerns the Trump administration’s attacks on antifa are ungrounded in fact and law, and violate free speech rights.
For more, we’re joined by someone who knows a lot about all of this. Mark Bray is a Rutgers University history professor, author of the 2017 book, Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook. Last week, he was forced to leave his home in New Jersey and move to Spain with his family after receiving death threats following Trump’s push to categorize the anti-fascist movement as a domestic terrorist organization. Charlie Kirk’s group, Turning Point USA, had also circulated a petition labeling him “Dr. Antifa” and calling for him to be fired.
In a remarkable development, Bray was at first blocked from flying out of the United States last week. He wrote on Bluesky, “Someone canceled my family’s flight out of the country at the last second. We got our boarding passes. We checked our bags. Went through security. Then at our gate our reservation 'disappeared.'” They later took another flight, and professor Mark Bray joins us now from Spain.
Thanks so much for being with us. I’m sorry you’ve gone through all this, Professor Bray. If you can start off by talking about why you left the country and what happened, as we try to follow what was happening to you at the airport?
MARK BRAY: Right. So, I published this book, Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, in 2017. I’m actually researching different historical topics now. But after Trump’s executive order, a series of far-right trolls, online influencers started attacking me. I received a number of death threats. Someone published my home address on X. So I started to fear for the safety of my family staying in our home. More and more death threats came in, and I knew I needed to get away. Getting to another country, getting across the ocean would make us feel much more comfortable.
As you said, our first flight was mysteriously canceled at the last moment. My two small children were sobbing. We had to regroup. The next day, as you said —
AMY GOODMAN: I want to ask: When you —
MARK BRAY: — I told — yeah.
AMY GOODMAN: I just want to ask: When say your flight was canceled, you went to — what was it? Newark Airport? Or Kennedy?
MARK BRAY: Yes, Newark.
AMY GOODMAN: And you got — and you got your boarding passes, and you went through security. So you were all set. And you got —
MARK BRAY: Yes.
AMY GOODMAN: — to the gate. And what did they tell you?
MARK BRAY: Right. Well, there was an error. They had us step to the side to talk to the United worker at the desk. There were a series of phone calls and mumbling. And they basically said, at the last moment, someone had canceled our reservation — not the whole flight, just for the four of us, for me, my wife and our two small children. And this is around the same time that Andy Ngo and Jack Posobiec, two of the far-right provocateurs who had been harassing me online, were meeting in the White House with President Trump to discuss antifa. I just can’t believe it’s a coincidence.
AMY GOODMAN: And yet, you were able to rebook the next day, and you made it through security, and you actually made it onto the flight?
MARK BRAY: Well, this time, I was stopped, searched and interrogated by federal agents for an hour. And at one point, they took me into a side room, and my two kids saw what looked like very bad men taking me in another room, and they started sobbing. So, it was quite an ordeal even the next day. But I made it out. And frankly, I’m very fearful about the potential of returning, but hopefully, by next year, things will improve.
AMY GOODMAN: I mean, this is astounding. You weren’t trying to come into the United States. You were trying to leave. And you are an American citizen — not that that should have mattered.
MARK BRAY: And I’m not being charged with any crimes. If anything, I’m the victim of crimes. I wrote a book eight years ago. I consider myself politically an anti-fascist — I detest fascism — but I’m not a member of any antifa group. I’m a professor. I’m a dad. I’m just trying to live my life here. But, of course, because the far right is trying to create a bogeyman term in “antifa” to equate protests with terrorism, I got caught up in the middle of this.
AMY GOODMAN: So, you are the author, Professor Bray, of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook. If you can explain what antifa is and what it means for President Trump to have issued this executive order calling it a terrorist — domestic terrorist organization? Is it even an organization? Talk about antifa now and through history.
MARK BRAY: Right. So, as you said, it’s a term that is short for “anti-fascist” or “anti-fascism.” It’s originally German from the era of opposition to Hitler. After World War II, anti-fascism continued throughout the world, and the specific European tradition of what they called antifa spread to other countries around the world. For example, in the U.S., you had Anti-Racist Action in the ’80s and ’90s, which was a network of decentralized groups across the continent organizing against the far right.
The term “antifa” really kind of made its appearance in the U.S. in the late 2000s, but it’s not an organization. It’s more of a politics or a movement. I liken it to feminism. Sometimes there are feminist groups, but feminism itself is not a group. There are antifa groups, but antifa itself is not a group. It’s just sort of like more of a verb. It’s a thing you do to organize against the far right in decentralized groups.
Trump, of course, doesn’t care about any of that. It’s a useful bogeyman term to demonize protest, demonize resistance, equate it with terrorism. And it’s really, you know, an obvious page out of the textbooks about fascist and authoritarian leaders. It’s so — it’s such an obvious imitation of, you know, the kind of the Red Scare talk about communism, but applied to today.
AMY GOODMAN: It’s very interesting you’ve moved to Spain. I mean, for years we’ve covered the Abraham Lincoln Brigadistas, Brigade, those Americans who went to Spain, where you are now, to fight against the fascist Franco. Many of them died. Many of them came back. And this was just before World War II. They were the most experienced, presumably, in fighting. But when a number of them signed up to fight in World War II, to fight Hitler, they were labeled “premature anti-fascists.” Can you talk about that? And they were not allowed to fight in World War II.
MARK BRAY: Right. So, there were a lot of activists and leftists in the U.S. and around the world who realized the threat of Hitler well before mainstream society. And a number of them journeyed over to Spain to fight in the international brigades. A significant number of them lost their lives. Some of them returned. They were blacklisted in the U.S.
And it is also worth pointing out that a number of Spanish Civil War veterans from other countries who ended up going to France after the Spanish Civil War played important roles in the French underground. And there was a tank battalion of Spanish anarchists that were among the first to liberate Paris in 1945. It’s a fascinating history. It’s the one that I — I teach a course on the Spanish Civil War.
So, it is strange to sort of have these things twisted around. And I ended up going to Spain because I’m a historian of Spain. But I’ve received a lot of solidarity and support from the social movements here. And actually, there’s a general strike today in Spain for Palestine, as well — just to throw into your news report.
AMY GOODMAN: We had you on last in 2017 to discuss your book, Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, when it first came out. In the introduction, you wrote you hoped your work would promote organizing against fascism and white supremacy. Can you elaborate?
MARK BRAY: Right. So, anti-fascism has a broad history. In the U.S., certainly, there’s the European-inspired antifa tradition. There’s also a really good book called The Black Antifascist Tradition that talks about the role of anti-fascism in Black liberation struggles, Black Panthers and so forth, which I suggest people check out. So, it takes many different forms.
What it has in common is actually this impulse towards unity and putting aside the differences that often divide the left, in the interest of promoting the common struggle against fascism, against white supremacy. And what we’re seeing today in the U.S. is increasingly fascist. MAGA, I believe — and I study fascism, I don’t say this lightly — is a fascist movement. And if we don’t organize, if we don’t take action in the streets, we’re going to end up somewhere really bad.
And for me personally, I felt like my situation was such that I had to get my family out of harm’s way. But this story about me is about me, but it’s not really about me. It’s about attacks on academic freedom, free speech, the right to protest. We’re in a really dangerous situation. And so, everyone, in their own way, needs to take action to try and organize against this.
AMY GOODMAN: I mean, it’s interesting. You remind me of Timothy Snyder, as well as Jason Stanley, the two Yale professors, who also left the country. They’ve gone to Canada to teach, both having written books against fascism and tyranny. I wanted to ask you about U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi’s comments, saying the administration will take the, quote, “same approach” to antifa as it has to drug cartels it’s bombed in the Caribbean. The latest bombing, I think, took place yesterday, killing a number of people. Even Republican politicians, behind closed doors, are saying, “Where is the evidence?” for who these people are, who have been killed by the U.S. bombs. Mark Bray, your response to Pam Bondi?
MARK BRAY: Right. Well, the paradox of fascism is that while it’s trying to gain power, it talks about the need for law and order, and to the degree that it gains power, it tramples all over the law. It does not care about the law or legality, due process, civil liberties. And so, this kind of call to murder people in this country, without, of course, even having gone through any due process — not that I’m in favor of capital punishment anyway, but that’s another story — it is this kind of example of calling for the strongman, in Trump, to use deadly force, without any evidence, against people accused of made-up crimes that are being equated with — you know, at times, some of the Trump administration people have compared it to — ISIS to antifa, right? So, to me, it’s really this kind of fascist attack on civil liberties.
And if they’re equating protesters with antifa, and they’re saying that they’re going to use the methods used for the people in the boats in the Caribbean on antifa, the implication is they are ready to kill American protesters. And, you know, we know the history of Kent State — right? — where students were gunned down in the '60s. It could happen again if we're not careful. So we really need to be very vigilant about this.
AMY GOODMAN: Do you think progressive groups, groups that care about democracy, free speech, across the political spectrum, are pushing back enough around the attack on anti-fascists?
MARK BRAY: Well, you know, I think there’s always room for more action. And I think that my main takeaway for viewers today is that whether or not you consider yourself an anti-fascist, anyone who has any critiques of Trump is potentially in the crosshairs here, because there’s a concerted project from the top to equate protest with terrorism and to say anyone who’s not a Trump supporter is basically the equivalent of ISIS. You can’t make this stuff up. It’s absolutely ridiculous. They don’t care at all about grounding in fact or information. It’s something that plays to their base and justifies attempts to step beyond due process to use, apparently, lethal force against dissidents. This is terrifying. And so, everyone really needs to do what they can to sound the alarm.
AMY GOODMAN: Finally, I wanted to ask you about the Rutgers students calling for the university to support you, wanting Rutgers President William Tate to issue a statement, a, quote, “Resolution in Support of Professor Mark Bray’s Academic Freedom and Free Expression.” This apparently is slated for consideration and vote Friday by the Rutgers University Senate. Your response, Professor Bray?
MARK BRAY: Well, I’ve received a tremendous amount of support from the Rutgers faculty, from the student body and from the administration. I support that call. I hope it passes. I would very much appreciate a statement of direct support from President Tate. But, you know, to his credit, he did issue a statement in support of the free speech and academic freedom of all Rutgers faculty, which did not mention me directly, but I think, implicitly, supported my right to do my scholarship in accord with my job. But, you know, again, the Rutgers community has been fantastic, and especially given attacks on higher education across the country, the way that some subjects have been, basically, straight-up banned in states like Florida, I’m happy to be a professor at Rutgers.
AMY GOODMAN: Mark Bray, Rutgers University history professor, author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook. He’s just moved his family to Spain after receiving death threats following President Trump’s push to categorize the anti-fascist movement as a domestic terrorist organization.
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EXCLUSIVE: Kash Patel Dances Around Israelis On 9/10. | Candace Ep 258
Candace Owens
11/5/25
Jumping back into the investigation because I have some INCREDIBLY interesting updates for you about a country that is “only the size of New Jersey”. In other news, we have some interesting data points to add to our timeline regarding the McCoys.
All right, you guys. Let's jump right back into it, back into the investigation because I have some incredibly interesting updates for you.
Actually, some explosive revelations regarding the Charlie Kirk case. Now, buckle up because there's this country
that's only the size of New Jersey. It's always the victim. It turns out that they had some people on the ground that
day. And I just want to be clear here, no matter what I say throughout this episode, please remember that they are always the victim. historically have
always been the victim and they have done nothing wrong. Didn't do nothing wrong on 910 either. In other news, the
McCoys, let's jump back into their story because I've learned some crazy interesting data points to add to our
timeline. You know, I love me a timeline. So, let's jump back in. Welcome back to Candace.
[Music]
The McCoy succession plan.
Do you know that moment when your subconscious uh kind of meets your
conscious? Like you just suddenly your subconscious is storing all this information and it's maybe flagging something for you that's a little weird,
but you haven't come to realize it yet. And then all of a sudden the information breaks the surface and you're like,
"Aha, I got it. I didn't even realize that that thing that happened a long time ago was a little bit weird. And
suddenly you're behaving like Dory the Bluefish from the movie Finding Nemo when she remembers the P. Sherman
address from Australia. You guys know that moment. Take a watch. SH
Sydney. P Sherman 42. Sydney
[Music] Nemo. Yes. Nemo. Crime solved. Okay, that is how it
works. Never ignore your subconscious. That's why I say pay attention to my dreams. I don't care who has to laugh at
me about it. And there was this little something that flagged in the back of my mind as odd in the aftermath of
Charlie's assassination. One of these things that might seem small, but it's always the small details that help to
paint the broader and bigger picture. Right. L. Woods in the movie Legally Blonde. She was absolutely correct when
she said that people who work out have endorphins and happy people don't kill their husbands. Anyway, the thing that I
realized is that Mikey McCoy, the chief of staff of Turning Point USA, Mikey McCoy, for whatever reason, he always
requires an adjective. Whenever they discuss Mikey McCoy, there's an adjective before they say his name. A
bunch of people in the Turning Point USA orbit described Mikey McCoy in this very unique manner. I want you to take a
listen to that. Let me tell you who the heroes were in this whole thing. We're going to start
with 23 23-year-old Mikey McCoy. And that's when the great Mikey McCoy showed
up. and my husband's chief of staff, the amazing Mikey McCoy.
My friend Mikey McCoy, the brilliant 24 year old who at the time when Charlie was shot was 23 and was a hero that day.
I used to be known as Charlie Kurt's pastor. Now I'm known as Mikey McCoy's dad. He clicked into gear eventually. It was
amazing. Mikey was a heroic figure on that day.
Amazing. Heroic. He was brilliant. It stood out to me really because it's only Mikey
that they moved to do it for. And objectively speaking, okay, I don't care what your experience in life is. I would
not move to insist that someone was quote unquote heroic for walking away
from their friend after he was shot. Okay? I just wouldn't that wouldn't be the adjective that came to my mind.
Heroic. I also don't feel the need ever to qualify any of my friends with an
adjective. Think about how strange it would be if on this show, every time I cover Tucker Carlson, I was like, "The spectacular
Tucker Carlson. The breathtaking Tucker Carlson is under attack in this moment." You'd be like, "Why are you doing that?
Why do I feel like you're trying to program me?" This only made me more interested in Mikey and the McCoy story.
And I want to be super clear here. No innuendo. I don't think that I know that
Mikey McCoy did not kill Charlie Kirk. We watch him in those moments. But it's also becoming pretty apparent to me that
the stage was being set for Mikey to become the new Charlie. In fact, on stage at the memorial event for Charlie
and elsewhere, they were trying to prime the public for that plausibility. Almost
like it was this psychological operation, nod to Rob McCoy and his family lineage, to see Mikey as capable
of filling Charlie's shoes. Take a listen. Let me tell you something about Mikey.
Mikey's been with Charlie for several years. He's 23 years old. He is wise be bond beyond his years. And when that
tragedy struck, Mikey was an absolute hero who kept everybody calm and did
some of the most mundane things you would think you would need to do on the
worst day of his life. And he continues to be a rock. He's been following Jesus for a long time. Um, I'm hoping that
Mikey one day will follow in Charlie's footsteps right to the college campus because he has the ability, the
demeanor, the grace, the knowledge to do so. Set an example for the believers
in speech and conduct and love, in faith
and in purity. Our speaker today, Mikey McCoy, has done that. His path
was pretty much like Charlie Kirk's path. Pretty much like Charlie Kirk's path.
And he's got the grace and the wits and everything. It's amazing. Okay. And if you're wondering why we also included
Erica saying the amazing Mikey McCoy in her first speech, it's because Rob McCoy
oddly refers back to Erica's speech when he is asked specifically what he
believes Mikey's future is going to be at Turning Point USA. Okay. He's going to start, you're going to see he's going
to answer a question. The show is Faith, the Faith Forward Show. And he starts to
answer the question, but then he sort of cuts himself off and he trails into a different topic almost as if he catches
himself. Take a listen. And then Mikey specifically like how he's going to kind of fit into that
picture because when I'm seeing him speak, man, I'm like, dude, this Mikey is going to have a humongous role within
this organization. So Charlie was an avid journaler journaler. Very avid.
And when Erica started opening up his journals after he was killed, she started reading. Charlie had a plan all
the way through 2028. Wow. Written out. Written out.
I mean, there's an order of success succession. And and when so when she comes out and she
says the amazing I think she said the amazing Mikey McCoy McCoy. Yeah. Um
they and this is one of the things I I I would share with Mikey. I share with
Charlie and I I learned it from Steve Smotherman and Pastor Steve Smotherman said it to Charlie
in a in in a where where you're a public figure, you have very little private
privacy. That was weird, right?
That's a weird way to try to answer that question. What's he doing there? Is he trying to make us believe but not
explicitly state but kind of explicitly state or maybe implicitly state that
Charlie's future or rather Mikey McCoy's future was written by Charlie in one of
these journal that's what I was picking up that's what I feel like he was throwing down let me know if I'm crazy
but that was a weird way to answer and he's like so when Erica comes out and she says the amazing Mikey McCoy he talks about the journals what's going on
here now I'm going to give you some data points to back this up. Now, I maintain that the wonderful Mikey McCoy doesn't
strike me as intrinsically evil. Something Charlie used to always say to me is the eyes are the window to the
soul. I don't see this intrinsic evil when I look in Mikey McCoy's eyes. But,
however, I do think he was hyped. Okay, I think Mikey was promised or told or
encouraged that he would become the new Charlie. And it is a fact that that was the number one sentiment that we
received from our Turning Point USA insiders following Charlie's assassination that the you know
supercalifragilistic ispialocious Mikey McCoy appeared to have like an extra
spring in his step that made them all a little bit uncomfortable in the aftermath and that he seemed all too
happy to assume Charlie's position. Look, he's already speaking at Liberty University. Why? Because he made some
phone calls. that that's have we lowered the standards for what makes somebody a hero in 2025?
I I don't know. And I will say that beyond the sentiment that was expressed to us from the Turning Point USA
insiders, there are some interesting facts. Fact number one, for whatever
reason, um, in the month, and I'm going to make sure that I address my timeline
here, in the month leading up to Charlie's
um, death, Mikey McCoy was interested in capturing some behind the scenes
footage, more intimate moments of Charlie's life. And I'm going to give you two examples of of that. Okay.
Example number one, Charlie's very last overseas trip to Korea. This was four
days before he died. For whatever reason, Mikey McCoy felt suddenly inspired to try his luck mking up
Charlie and capturing him on the road. And he says this is the first time he ever did it. Take a listen to Mikey
McCoy explain that. Today is really fun because Mikey and Blake are going to talk about their last
trip with Charlie to Asia. Y and Mikey, you are now in the driver's seat. The floor is yours. Yeah. Uh, it's
crazy to think that was just three, four days before Utah and we, it was
Charlie's dream to always go to Asia and Blake and I got the gift of being able to tag along for that.
Uh, and so I brought the camera with me. I've never traveled with the camera before, but I decided, you know, it
would be a good idea to mic Charlie up, do some content with him while we're there. And
okay, that is remarkable. Obviously, for the first time, he decided to mic. It's not
something that somebody does as a chief of staff. It's not something that somebody does in that role. Okay. I've traveled with Charlie everywhere. Very
strange. The person that mics is always the AV person. And I would assume there were some AV people that were on hand uh
given the trip. But anyways, that's not it. Okay, that's not just one point that we have. And don't worry because I'm
going to show you after I plotted all of this into our timeline. Just a few weeks before Charlie died, Mikey McCoy and his
wife Eliza for the very first time. Now, this is according to Eliza McCoy, she
shared that it was the first time ever that they went on vacation. Her and Mikey went on vacation with Erica and
Charlie. Here's that post on Instagram. That second paragraph begins, "We spent a few weeks together this summer. Our
first family trip together." Okay, getting real close there. And while they
were on this very first time together for a couple of weeks vacation, something moved the McCoys to capture
intimate and sweet moments of the Kirk family from behind the scenes. Now, you know which footage I'm talking about.
It's the footage that has since gone viral of Charlie walking with his children and Erica. Erica grabs his
hand. It's actually a very sweet moment and it moved a lot of us. People were I know I was crying when I first saw this
footage a couple of days um after Charlie uh died. Well, let me tell you guys something.
Fortunately, the McCoys were the ones that captured that footage. See, my thing is I need to know what moved them
to do that. Is are are they really just that extraordinary? Is it the extraordinarily lucky Mikey McCoy?
Because I was thinking about it because I have a big family and people with families know and you can go through
Charlie's Instagram as I have done. Uh there's always one person missing from
intimate family moments when they're on the fly. They're not planned, right? there tends to be one family member missing because one person grabs the
camera and you're capturing the kids with dad or you're capturing the kids with mom or it's just the kids whatever
it is that's how family footage when it's organic tends to look right and of course on holidays you get together you
stand up you capture a picture that is the pattern if you go through Erica Charlie's Instagram Charlie's missing or
Erica's missing and that's because they're filming each other but thankfully the McCoys were on hand in
what looks like mid July or early August into early August. According to my source, my sources, we will nail down
these specific dates in the future. We are working on it. Okay. Strikes me as odd that Mikey is just picking up the
camera and capturing these moments. I don't know. I don't know. For the first time ever, I don't like it. I don't like it at all. And if I'm in Erica's
position, I'm starting to look at him funny like what's going on here? Okay. Now, let's bring in Daddy McCoy.
Wouldn't say. He strikes me as something else entirely. And he similarly had some
rather impeccable timing. Rob McCoy, as you very well know, was the senior pastor of the Godspeak Calvary Chapel uh
in Thousand Oaks, California. You should also know, by the way, let me introduce this to you right now because I didn't
know that he was funded, his church was funded by the Wilks brothers down in
Texas. The Wilks brothers are the ones that fund Daily Wire. We're, you know, the initial seed money behind the Daily
Wire, the initial seed uh not the initial seed money behind Prageru, but they majorly fund Prager University as
well. So, that's an interesting web that's being uh woven before our eyes, right? You got PragerU and now you've
got this this church and they are part of what is described online as a cult.
It's like Christians for Jews. I don't you look into it yourself. I I honestly can't explain it, but that's just
something that you should know in the background. Anyway, for whatever reason, after 17 years as the head pastor of
that church, Rob McCoy, it was publicly announced in January of this year that he would be stepping down as the head
pastor and instead assuming the role of pastor ammeritus. Now, for the uninitiated, ameritus is basically just
an honorific title, right? bestowed upon someone after they retire from some
distinguished position. For Rob McCoy, they had planned that transition. That
transition took effect in mid July of this year. Okay, mid July of this year
is when he officially steps down from the church. Lot going on here in McCoyland. Now, in case you're thinking,
well, that doesn't mean that he was doing all of that and transitioning because he was anticipating some bigger
role at Turning Point USA and maybe therefore planning to wind down his life
in California. No, actually, that's exactly the reason that was cited when
it was reported on in January. Uh, in the Ventura County Star, they wrote,
quote, "He's approaching a transition in July. He'll step down as the senior pastor of God Speak and hand the reigns
to his son-in-law, Micah Stevens, the church's administrative and worship pastor. McCoy will become the ameritus
pastor and will still preach regularly at the church in a role that could last into the mid70s. And then it goes on to
say, "When McCoy's responsibilities grew at Turning Point USA, he and his wife sold their home in Thousand Oaks and
bought a home in the Phoenix area." Uh, now he said that he bought a different
place in Thousand Oaks. He also owns a home in Coronado near San Diego. Now,
what we can confirm to you is that Rob actually put that secondary home in
Coronado up for sale on August 24th, 2025 of this year. He listed his home up
for sale. So, suffice it to say that the fantastic, heroic, sensational McCoys
were pretty busy this summer. And I don't like it at all. I just don't like it. The vibes for me are not good. Now,
we can take a look at our timeline here with these new moves added into it. We're going to start looking at July
11th because that's when I think things reached some sort of a pinnacle. That's
the infamous speech uh that Tucker Carlson gave where he calls out Bill Aman. He starts talking about Israel,
all this stuff and things start moving. Okay. Now you can see on that's July
11th and he says that people who serve in foreign armies should be stripped of
their citizenship. He muses about where Bill Aman's wealth comes from. July 18th
is our next date on our timeline and this came from this is a great find from Sam Parker. Uh that is when Turning
Point USA uh receives a request from UVU for Charlie to hold an event at Utah
Valley. Not only do they instantly accept this request, but they also make it his first stop, which is incredible.
Uh, we can listen to a news anchor, I think this is from Fox News Salt Lake City, describe exactly when that request
went out, as we're telling you on July 18th. Take a listen. Utah Valley University has provided the document
that created the rally at which conservative activist Charlie Kirk was shot to death, but it is not providing
the security plan for that day. I'm Fox 13 investigative reporter Nate Carile.
We've been asking UVU for records related to the September 10th Kirk rally. After about six weeks, this is
the first record provided. It's the application submitted mid July by the UVU chapter of Kirk's Turning Point USA.
The applicants answer standard questions about time, place, and a description of the event. However, we noticed there is
one question not asked on the form. whether organizers need any police protection. That's a standard inquiry
at, for example, University of Utah events. Speaking of police, UVU has
denied Fox 13 News's request for a copy of the Kirk Rally security plan. The
university is citing the provision in state records laws keeping confidential quote security measures end quote. The
campus also has expressed concern that the records could interfere in any investigation and someone's right to a
fair trial. Tyler Robinson is charged with Kirk's murder. Fox 13 plans an
appeal of the denial and we are still pursuing a variety of records related to the Kirk shooting.
Well, Fox 13 News, if I can be of any assistance, you just reach out to me because I've done a lot of these events
and everything happening here is unusual. Okay. for them to honor a request. I mean, they get every
university across all 50 states trying to get Charlie and I to speak. Okay. A a
request going in that late being honored and becoming stop number one within a couple of weeks. I'm going to say that's
never happened. I'm going to dig through my inbox. Okay. I'm going to dig through my inbox. I'm going to see what the normal security protocols are because as
everybody has noticed, there was no ambulance on standby. And that's against Utah law. And so it's
interesting that they don't want to release the security plan because I'm pretty sure this was an extraordinary
first time thing where they didn't have a security plan. And I had received a tip and I do want to check this out by
the way that they also had initially slated for this event to be inside but it was moved. Again, I have to look into
that. I'm not confirming that. But if that's true as well, things are about to get very interesting. And guess what
guys, there's more. And this part is crazy. I guess it's not really crazy. I
Exclusive news on Israeli cell phones.
think I saw like Milo Yiannopoulos tweeted, I think is now I think Israel did it and that's because he was
tweeting about the bizarre lie of them saying Erica Kirk was accepting this award and they completely fictionalized
it. They've just been lying non-stop quickly, right? Uh right out the gate, BBNet and Yahoo doing propaganda rounds
uh denying that he had anything to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Perfectly normal thing to do, right? Perfectly normal. For some reason, I didn't feel compelled to do that. I
didn't feel like I had to get on camera and make a statement that I didn't kill Charlie Kirk. But BBnet and Yahoo felt
that he needed to do that. And all of his sickle fans in America echoed that statement. And nobody had accused them.
A thief runth when no one pursueth. Right. Well, here's some explosive news for you that I can now beyond a shadow
of a doubt confirm. Putting my name on this. Not only can I confirm this, but I can publicly challenge the very Zionist
occupied Trump administration who is aware of this to deny it. To come out and say, "No, that's not true." Okay?
And if Cash Patel is done crying about the mean tweets on the internet regarding his sensational singing
girlfriend, he can also certainly make the time of day to deny what I am saying
if it is untrue, right? Because this is pretty relevant. Now, I should say that
some people had actually reported this earlier, like Mel. I've been telling you to follow her village crazy lady over on
X. She was actually very early with this reporting and I had heard rumors and rumblings, but I wanted to make sure
that I had verifiable proof, enough proof that I would go out on a limb, as I'm doing right now, and asserting that it is authentic and it is real. Ladies
and gentlemen, there were, for whatever reason, 12 Israeli cell phones on the
ground at Utah Valley University the day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
This has completely spooked the people that are very high up in government. Now, to be clear, I don't mean that
there were 12 VPNs that were switched and routed through Israel on that day. I
mean that there were 12 personal cell phone accounts that were opened in
Israel. Okay? Like you go into Verizon in Tennessee or in Connecticut and you
open your phone. I am saying that they opened their phones in Israel, those accounts in Israel and they were on the
ground on September 10th at Utah Valley University when Charlie was shot. Now
the NSA knows this. Cash Patel knows this. People in the current administration know that know this and
they are desperate for some reason to stop that information from being released to the public. Why?
Because they're the most transparent administration ever. Is that why is this like Jeffrey Epstein transparency that
we're getting? Because that's what it feels like. It always seems that on the topic of this one nation that's only the
size of New Jersey and has done nothing wrong ever and was truly the greatest friend to Charlie right up until the
very end. never put any pressure on him. Suddenly, everybody abandons their
values. True friends of Charlie Kirk, right? Mhm. Standing on that stage giving him a speech, hiding this. Now, what would be
the reason that they wanted to keep that information under wraps? And why does it have people at the very top spooked? If
there's nothing to hide, then there's nothing to hide. Okay? If there's nothing to hide, then there's nothing to
hide. Now, let's play devil's advocate. And to be clear, we are now advocating for the
devil when we do this. Maybe the cell phones belonged to some exchange
students. It's possible. Maybe 12 Israelis were touring UVU on that day
because, I don't know, Utah Valley University is a place where they maybe wanted to attend in the future. maybe 12
American students had Israeli based cell phones because they had just come back
from a summer abroad program and they wanted to keep their Israeli cell phones
running when they got back home to Utah. I don't know, but I'd like to know. In
fact, we need to know the answer to this question. Why are they hiding this
information? And why and who did those 12 Israeli cell phones belong to? Okay.
I don't like secrets. I don't like secrets, especially when they pertain to
the public execution of my friend Charlie Kirk. We'll take a break and we'll come right back. All right, you
guys.
Midterm elections push.
So, we've got planes from Egypt, cell phones from Israel, and we are
getting the runaround from the Trump administration, the runaround from his friends, the people that wanted to just
stop asking questions and move on. What does this feel like to you? What does this feel like to you? Sometimes I wish
I was born yesterday, right? It would be so easy to just accept him like, "Oh, yeah. I totally there just was a lone
shooter who, you know, had had never really been hunted, but he got really lucky and he just fired this shot and he
got he never been to the campus, but he somehow knew how to scale the buildings running around like Spider-Man. I wish I
was born yesterday so I could just accept that. I do." Unfortunately, I wasn't born yesterday. I was actually
born 36 years ago and everyone is full
of it. I am looking at a situation where Charlie was betrayed and is actively being betrayed every day by the very
people that he helped to elect people that are in office. They are betraying him by trying to feed us this nonsense.
Okay? They are feeding us they're they're selling us crap and trying to tell us it's food, right? Like this is
nourishing or something. I just won't tolerate it. Okay? And it is, I think,
one of the craziest things happening right now that these people are now
telling us to shift gears and that it's our duty, right? It's our duty to make
sure more of them get elected. Now, there are a lot of people running around right now. Uh there are races, important
races, they tell us, going on in the country, consequential races that are happening. And people online are being
somewhat accusatory, upset that Republicans are infighting, if that's what you're calling this. I'm not
fighting with you, okay? I'm going to see this thing all the way through. And that we're instead focused on using our
platforms um to fight one another rather than to encourage people to go vote so
that Republicans can stay in power across various cities. You know, as just one example, of course, people really uh
cannot stop speaking about the M Donnie versus the Kuomo mayoral race in New York. Now, Cuomo's already one of the
most corrupt families in New York. And now they're like, "No, switch gears because mom Donnie is going to be worse
and it's your job as a good little Republican, okay, to go out there and to
make sure that mom Donnie doesn't win." And to those very many people, I would like to say, "No,
I'm good. Actually, I'm just not interested. I'm interested in nothing until you start telling the truth about
what happened to Charlie Kirk. Until you acknowledge that a 30 six did not go through his neck, did not get stopped
rather by his neck. Until you acknowledge that that story that you tried to sell us is complete BS,
something that could take down a moose somehow did not take down Charlie Kirk. Are you kidding me? Are you absolutely
kidding me? I'm not interested in your races around the country. I'm not voting until this is resolved. Okay, this is
toxic. You are toxic. And it is unbelievably abusive to suggest that I
have to now reinvest and work for the exact same party that told me that if I
voted for them and got the word out for them, and I did do all of those things, that things would be different.
Corruption's going to stop. We're going to be the most transparent thing administration that you've ever seen.
Except on those Epstein files. Yeah, I know. He was like um abusing children.
But what Epstein files were we even talking about? No.
No thank you. No. Nope. Goodbye. Not doing it anymore. You're left versus
right. Don't care anymore. There is power and there is the rest of us. There
is power and there is the rest of us and you are not going to convince me that any of this stuff is consequential after
I just watched Charlie Kirk catch a bullet in his throat and am watching all of you lie about it.
Okay, there's
actually this uh vintage clip from TRL, remember Total Request Live
with Carson Daily that perfectly embodies me and how I am feeling in this
moment. So, let's watch that vintage clip together. Hi. Um, my name is Manda and I live in
Florida. Being a young black female and a also a teen mother. Um, what do you
guys do to get back give back to the community? Um, also directed mostly
towards OD. I know PR and the Fujis do things for the community, but what do you what is going to be your thing for
the community? Nothing. [Applause]
Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong now. Don't get me wrong. Send you love
to the Republicans. I send you love. Okay? Don't get me wrong. I send you love. But what I will be doing for the
broader community until you start telling the truth is nothing. Nothing.
So don't even don't don't at me. I just don't care at all. Not even a little bit. Anyway, uh, two of the like three
Tucker goes on Dave Smith to address backlash.
people that I still like that are within the realm of politics got together. Tucker Carlson joined Dave Smith. I kind
of want to qualify Tucker Carlson. I feel like I want to say the stupendous Tucker Carlson joined Dave Smith on his
show to respond to all of this Zionist backlash that he was receiving for having a conversation with Nick Fuentes.
And foremost, Tucker explains why he had the conversation with Nick Fuentes. Take a listen.
That's Tucker just giving the broader theological delivering the
broader theological point which is important that people have the capacity to change. And actually we're kind of in
this weird psychosis as a society. And I would say that this is kind of one of the things they're trying to deliver to
us is that some people are just deplorable. Like everything about them is just so deplorable. We have to throw
them away. And that's what creates these sort of movements. People are just tired of it. They're just tired of this. This
is not the way that Christians think. Actually, we very much don't live in a Christian society because we live in a Christian Zionist society. And Christian
Zionism is a it's a paradox. Okay? It's there's no such thing as Christian Zionism because Zion Zionism is all
about identity, right? It's all about identity. Because I am a Jew, I
therefore have a right to this land. Because they are Jews and I am a Christian. I recognize that I'm going to get into heaven if I just worship how
BBNet and Yahoo even if when he kills tens of thousands of kids. That is a political ideology. It is not a religion
and it is dangerous and is wrong and it is it is backwards and it is of course antithetical to the Bible.
Now Tucker then explains specifically why he chose to have a conversation with Nick
Fuentes. Take a listen.
I want you to really consider you listen to Tucker's perspectives and what's guiding his perspectives and then go
backwards and listen to like Mark Levin and these people that get on their platforms and call him irredeemable and
you realize there's a different spirit moving within these within these groups, right? And he is what Christianity is,
right? It's about forgiveness. It's about when you're angry, not assuming that there's some like blood oath that
you need to honor, but saying, "You know what? Nick Fuentes says something crappy things about me and I'm going to speak to him." I did the same thing. I was
like the bigger person, hosted him. And he was, by the way, still a jerk. Uh, but this idea that he shouldn't have a
platform. He shouldn't be allowed to speak. He shouldn't be allowed to think. He shouldn't be allowed to breathe. What is that from? What is your faith? Don't
You're definitely not going to convince me that that's the first five books of the Bible. Okay, I know what your faith is. It's Zionism, okay? You guys behave
like gangsters. You behave like you are only loyal to one another and you'll come beat up any person figuratively.
Um, you'll take care of any person that gets in your way. And the world can see that now.
So, what's your next move, to just keep doing this? To just keep behaving like this? And just know that every act that you make, every show,
everything that you make go viral with you speaking in the way that you speak and then people get to hear Tucker, he
gets bigger and you get smaller. Okay. He gets bigger. Our ideas get bigger. Your ideas get smaller because people
can perceive the nastiness that's guiding it and they want nothing to do with it.
Okay. Now, um I'm going to take
a brief break because I know that you guys have a lot of comments and we also have book club tonight and we're going to get deeper by the way into that sort
of guiding theology uh when we get back into the Sigman Freud book because it
really really connects dots for you, right? What that guiding philosophy comes from is actually a psychology. it
is a psychology and he's the father of it as they call him the father of modern psychology and so really stepping back
into time and understanding what was happening at the turn of the 19th century across Europe why so many speech
laws have been passed in Europe uh kind of Christians in the way that we're doing right now waking up and going what
is the guiding philosophy of these people that seem like they hate us like they're trying to to abuse like what
what have we done wrong to be treated like this this book is really an aha moment and I'm excited for the book
club. I'm excited and I understand why Zionist infiltrated it, but we're not going to stop. But first, let's let's get to a couple of sponsors, then I'm
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Comments.
I'm going to start pulling the top comment that makes me chuckle. There were a couple of them yesterday, but this one we regarding Cash Patel's tweet
calling his girlfriend a sensational country singer. It was so weird. This
user wrote, Cheryl writes, "After hearing Cash Patel's tweet, I'm 90% sure
he's the one that wrote Tyler's message to his furry lover." Absolutely. You are
correct. It's now a fact. It's now a fact. Just kidding, but I loved that comment. All right, comment from today's episode. Laughing cats music world
writes, "I keep thinking about George Zinn. I know he was a habitual Salt Lake City event disruptor, but what are the
chances his reflex is to take the blame voluntarily?" Voluntarily. I guess it's possible, but wow. crazy split decision
to make, right? Not even a hesitation. I I told you guys that we had a source leak to us. He went to the hospital. He
went to Utah Valley Hospital uh after this event to treat some of his like mild injuries from being dragged and he
told people that he was told to do it and he was paid to do it and but he didn't know where the payment was coming
from. So, yeah, this was this entire thing was just an operation. Like I said, uh Brandon Hansen writes, "Been a
lifelong Israel supporter. Recently, I've come to not like BB, but I still love the land where the Lord was born, a
Zionist who dislikes Netanyahu. Curious how you feel about that love from Maine. It at least makes me happy to hear you
acknowledge that there's a demon. I don't It's It's the strangest thing to me when these people are treating BBNet
and Yahoo like he is their Christ. And that is what makes it a disgusting heresy, right? like to misinterpret the
Bible so much that you're basically platforming and honoring what BB Netanyahu does, avoiding the topic, not
acknowledging that what he's doing to the Palestinians is wrong. Um, having love for Jerusalem, that makes sense.
Having love uh for to to be able to walk in Jerusalem and to see the relics, that
all makes sense to me. And I think I'm just more disgusted by people who turn a blind eye to everything that's happened to the Palestinians. It just makes me
sick. and to see him on camera acting like such a gangster and that and people pretending that he's holy or that
there's ever even a a shred of documented proof that these people are the original people from the Holy Land
is crazy. There's way more uh proof to the contrary which they stopped printing even their own textbooks which they've
stopped printing that point to the fact that they came from Turkey the Turk Ashkenaz tribe uh that came down began
speaking Yiddish and then needed a place to go after World War II. It's crazy to me. The whole thing's crazy. Again, I
would debate anybody on that topic. Um, definitely feeling especially fired up about it. A Smoky Mountain Kitty writes,
"Always trust your gut. Our brain takes in far more information than we are aware of. I love your show and all that
you do." Thank you so much. Uh, Beck Build writes, "So glad Charlie had you." On another topic, dinosaurs. Hundreds of
Bible believing PhD scientists have evidence that dinosaurs are real. Killed during the global flood of Genesis. The
Institute for Creation Research. answers in Genesis and creation. Okay guys, I'm
sorry. Nope. Sorry. And this is going to get I bet you the people that are going through my book club by the end of this you're going to see that there was a
conscious movement as I said at the end at the turn of the century same time they started going oh we found dinosaur
uh bone to and then you get into like the research of you come from an
oralopythecus and they describe this as like oh suddenly science was peing and
actually what was happening is they wanted to make people invest in scientism that's a CS Lewis perspective.
He writes about that in one of his books where they wanted to turn science into God and as long as they say there's an
expert, there's research experts say that people would fall into line and that's what we see happening. So, I
can't do a deep dive on the dinosaur thing right now, but the book club, we're going to go there eventually. And
I just can I don't know. I just I see a bigger picture, a broader picture now. removing the Bibles from classrooms,
teaching people that they're homo sapiens and they started walking straight, but also the monkeys are still
here. It was very methodical and yeah, broader conversation to have. I can't
wait for that clip to go viral. By the way, like I care like I also don't believe the moon landings happened, so you can cut that clip because they
didn't happen. That's crazy. More scientism. Anyways, Smokey, I'm sorry. Christine writes, "Loyalty is rare.
Christ is king. Indeed, he is." Beth Mitchum writes, "So we give Israel
billions. People who support Israel give Apac money to give our government uh to
give to our government to vote the way Israel wants. So my tax money pays for Israeli ideas. We pay Congress twice.
Can you say moneyaundering?" Uh yeah, that's what it feels like for sure. We give our tax dollars, they go overseas,
and then they yell at us for paying attention to what they're doing overseas and then call us anti-Semitic. This is
like the worst deal ever. I' I'd like that deal to be undone, and it certainly isn't going to be undone in this
administration. That's for sure. Jennifer K writes just asked Grock if Israel and Egypt coordinate on
intelligence ops. It says yes, calling their cooperation unprecedented. Uh since the 1979 peace treaty, intel
chiefs have met often, share real-time data. Honestly, few countries make more sense working together. Yeah. Uh country
A that gets most of our money is Israel, B is Egypt, and there is a reason for that. It's so it doesn't look like it's
all going to Israel. That's my perspective. Darth Phantom writes, "Citizens have and I would say since the
1967 war, do you think that they would let Israel control the SNI peninsula?" Anyways, more on that later. Darth
Phantom writes, "itizens have always paid taxes to finally be able to retire and the thanks that we get uh for this
is they raise the age on us to retire and we all obey like idiots. Am I the only one angered about this?" Yeah, it's
all coming apart. We're realizing it's all one big scam. It's all usery. uh and it is a sin and everything that's
happening into our in our country, our culture, the corrosion. I think it's because America has married to Zionism.
Like I I truly do believe that and I think a lot of people are waking up to that. We were a better country when we
were a Christian nation. We are no longer a Christian nation. We are an occupied nation with an ideology that
has produced filth in our culture. Uh Miranda writes, "Hi Candace, I'm 23 and I should be clear, a political ideology
dressed up as a religion and a faith." Miranda writes, "Can I'm 23 and newly married. We just found out that I'm
pregnant. Congratulations. I'm nervous, but I know children are God's blessing. Do you have any advice for me as a young mother? Is it okay to be nervous?" My
advice would be not to take advice. It is going to be the most natural job that you have. You are going to just know what to do when you see the baby. Um,
and it will make you a better person because you will be so tapped into God's creation. You will realize that there is
something more. It is one of the sins in the culture that kind of trained us to
have children later is that we don't tap into our divine purpose and children
immediately have you tap into your divine purpose. You feel more wholesome uh more confident. I became a more
confident person when I had children because I suddenly realized what matters and what doesn't matter. And that's why
I fight like hell for truth because it matters, right? my investment is that I have children and my silence is
essentially cowardice. That would gar guarantee that their future would be compromised, could be more compromised
than our lives are right now right now. Uh lastly, real light worker writes, "Have you looked into events going on at
UVU that day? A college student posted an FB real of her experience? She ran into a building where the room was
filled with uniformed people and a bunch of different flags. Who were they? That's the Hall of Flags that's behind
Charlie's head. And I do find something suspicious was going on there. I've never gotten clarity, but that's where
notoriously the person who filmed the footage, the only footage um that we have of of the uh person running across
who they say is the shooter running across uh the Lozi Center. So yeah, look, we are investigating every day
with more information. Tomorrow we will have uh more explosive information and revelations about the Egyptian plane,
which so interesting. Speaking of the unique relationship between Egypt and Israel, Tik Tok is hitting us for videos
talking about the Egyptian planes. That's very strange. Israel's moderator
served in the IDF, we know, and they BB wants Tik Tok secured for Israel's
future. Why do they care about Egyptian planes that were there? It's kind of coming together. There's a picture here
that's coming together. Anyways, you guys, we have to jump off because we do have book club tonight. So, I will see you guys in the Zionist infiltration on
our book club. We finally did it, guys. We went viral and they're stealing clips from behind the payw wall. Uh, if you
guys would like to support our work, you know, you can go to kandiswowens.com. You can go to make him a sandwichand.com
uh to buy the book. You will really enjoy this book. It's really important, especially for women to understand where
these feminist ideals came from. And beyond that, we will see you guys tomorrow.
[Music]
Candace Owens
11/5/25
Jumping back into the investigation because I have some INCREDIBLY interesting updates for you about a country that is “only the size of New Jersey”. In other news, we have some interesting data points to add to our timeline regarding the McCoys.
All right, you guys. Let's jump right back into it, back into the investigation because I have some incredibly interesting updates for you.
Actually, some explosive revelations regarding the Charlie Kirk case. Now, buckle up because there's this country
that's only the size of New Jersey. It's always the victim. It turns out that they had some people on the ground that
day. And I just want to be clear here, no matter what I say throughout this episode, please remember that they are always the victim. historically have
always been the victim and they have done nothing wrong. Didn't do nothing wrong on 910 either. In other news, the
McCoys, let's jump back into their story because I've learned some crazy interesting data points to add to our
timeline. You know, I love me a timeline. So, let's jump back in. Welcome back to Candace.
[Music]
The McCoy succession plan.
Do you know that moment when your subconscious uh kind of meets your
conscious? Like you just suddenly your subconscious is storing all this information and it's maybe flagging something for you that's a little weird,
but you haven't come to realize it yet. And then all of a sudden the information breaks the surface and you're like,
"Aha, I got it. I didn't even realize that that thing that happened a long time ago was a little bit weird. And
suddenly you're behaving like Dory the Bluefish from the movie Finding Nemo when she remembers the P. Sherman
address from Australia. You guys know that moment. Take a watch. SH
Sydney. P Sherman 42. Sydney
[Music] Nemo. Yes. Nemo. Crime solved. Okay, that is how it
works. Never ignore your subconscious. That's why I say pay attention to my dreams. I don't care who has to laugh at
me about it. And there was this little something that flagged in the back of my mind as odd in the aftermath of
Charlie's assassination. One of these things that might seem small, but it's always the small details that help to
paint the broader and bigger picture. Right. L. Woods in the movie Legally Blonde. She was absolutely correct when
she said that people who work out have endorphins and happy people don't kill their husbands. Anyway, the thing that I
realized is that Mikey McCoy, the chief of staff of Turning Point USA, Mikey McCoy, for whatever reason, he always
requires an adjective. Whenever they discuss Mikey McCoy, there's an adjective before they say his name. A
bunch of people in the Turning Point USA orbit described Mikey McCoy in this very unique manner. I want you to take a
listen to that. Let me tell you who the heroes were in this whole thing. We're going to start
with 23 23-year-old Mikey McCoy. And that's when the great Mikey McCoy showed
up. and my husband's chief of staff, the amazing Mikey McCoy.
My friend Mikey McCoy, the brilliant 24 year old who at the time when Charlie was shot was 23 and was a hero that day.
I used to be known as Charlie Kurt's pastor. Now I'm known as Mikey McCoy's dad. He clicked into gear eventually. It was
amazing. Mikey was a heroic figure on that day.
Amazing. Heroic. He was brilliant. It stood out to me really because it's only Mikey
that they moved to do it for. And objectively speaking, okay, I don't care what your experience in life is. I would
not move to insist that someone was quote unquote heroic for walking away
from their friend after he was shot. Okay? I just wouldn't that wouldn't be the adjective that came to my mind.
Heroic. I also don't feel the need ever to qualify any of my friends with an
adjective. Think about how strange it would be if on this show, every time I cover Tucker Carlson, I was like, "The spectacular
Tucker Carlson. The breathtaking Tucker Carlson is under attack in this moment." You'd be like, "Why are you doing that?
Why do I feel like you're trying to program me?" This only made me more interested in Mikey and the McCoy story.
And I want to be super clear here. No innuendo. I don't think that I know that
Mikey McCoy did not kill Charlie Kirk. We watch him in those moments. But it's also becoming pretty apparent to me that
the stage was being set for Mikey to become the new Charlie. In fact, on stage at the memorial event for Charlie
and elsewhere, they were trying to prime the public for that plausibility. Almost
like it was this psychological operation, nod to Rob McCoy and his family lineage, to see Mikey as capable
of filling Charlie's shoes. Take a listen. Let me tell you something about Mikey.
Mikey's been with Charlie for several years. He's 23 years old. He is wise be bond beyond his years. And when that
tragedy struck, Mikey was an absolute hero who kept everybody calm and did
some of the most mundane things you would think you would need to do on the
worst day of his life. And he continues to be a rock. He's been following Jesus for a long time. Um, I'm hoping that
Mikey one day will follow in Charlie's footsteps right to the college campus because he has the ability, the
demeanor, the grace, the knowledge to do so. Set an example for the believers
in speech and conduct and love, in faith
and in purity. Our speaker today, Mikey McCoy, has done that. His path
was pretty much like Charlie Kirk's path. Pretty much like Charlie Kirk's path.
And he's got the grace and the wits and everything. It's amazing. Okay. And if you're wondering why we also included
Erica saying the amazing Mikey McCoy in her first speech, it's because Rob McCoy
oddly refers back to Erica's speech when he is asked specifically what he
believes Mikey's future is going to be at Turning Point USA. Okay. He's going to start, you're going to see he's going
to answer a question. The show is Faith, the Faith Forward Show. And he starts to
answer the question, but then he sort of cuts himself off and he trails into a different topic almost as if he catches
himself. Take a listen. And then Mikey specifically like how he's going to kind of fit into that
picture because when I'm seeing him speak, man, I'm like, dude, this Mikey is going to have a humongous role within
this organization. So Charlie was an avid journaler journaler. Very avid.
And when Erica started opening up his journals after he was killed, she started reading. Charlie had a plan all
the way through 2028. Wow. Written out. Written out.
I mean, there's an order of success succession. And and when so when she comes out and she
says the amazing I think she said the amazing Mikey McCoy McCoy. Yeah. Um
they and this is one of the things I I I would share with Mikey. I share with
Charlie and I I learned it from Steve Smotherman and Pastor Steve Smotherman said it to Charlie
in a in in a where where you're a public figure, you have very little private
privacy. That was weird, right?
That's a weird way to try to answer that question. What's he doing there? Is he trying to make us believe but not
explicitly state but kind of explicitly state or maybe implicitly state that
Charlie's future or rather Mikey McCoy's future was written by Charlie in one of
these journal that's what I was picking up that's what I feel like he was throwing down let me know if I'm crazy
but that was a weird way to answer and he's like so when Erica comes out and she says the amazing Mikey McCoy he talks about the journals what's going on
here now I'm going to give you some data points to back this up. Now, I maintain that the wonderful Mikey McCoy doesn't
strike me as intrinsically evil. Something Charlie used to always say to me is the eyes are the window to the
soul. I don't see this intrinsic evil when I look in Mikey McCoy's eyes. But,
however, I do think he was hyped. Okay, I think Mikey was promised or told or
encouraged that he would become the new Charlie. And it is a fact that that was the number one sentiment that we
received from our Turning Point USA insiders following Charlie's assassination that the you know
supercalifragilistic ispialocious Mikey McCoy appeared to have like an extra
spring in his step that made them all a little bit uncomfortable in the aftermath and that he seemed all too
happy to assume Charlie's position. Look, he's already speaking at Liberty University. Why? Because he made some
phone calls. that that's have we lowered the standards for what makes somebody a hero in 2025?
I I don't know. And I will say that beyond the sentiment that was expressed to us from the Turning Point USA
insiders, there are some interesting facts. Fact number one, for whatever
reason, um, in the month, and I'm going to make sure that I address my timeline
here, in the month leading up to Charlie's
um, death, Mikey McCoy was interested in capturing some behind the scenes
footage, more intimate moments of Charlie's life. And I'm going to give you two examples of of that. Okay.
Example number one, Charlie's very last overseas trip to Korea. This was four
days before he died. For whatever reason, Mikey McCoy felt suddenly inspired to try his luck mking up
Charlie and capturing him on the road. And he says this is the first time he ever did it. Take a listen to Mikey
McCoy explain that. Today is really fun because Mikey and Blake are going to talk about their last
trip with Charlie to Asia. Y and Mikey, you are now in the driver's seat. The floor is yours. Yeah. Uh, it's
crazy to think that was just three, four days before Utah and we, it was
Charlie's dream to always go to Asia and Blake and I got the gift of being able to tag along for that.
Uh, and so I brought the camera with me. I've never traveled with the camera before, but I decided, you know, it
would be a good idea to mic Charlie up, do some content with him while we're there. And
okay, that is remarkable. Obviously, for the first time, he decided to mic. It's not
something that somebody does as a chief of staff. It's not something that somebody does in that role. Okay. I've traveled with Charlie everywhere. Very
strange. The person that mics is always the AV person. And I would assume there were some AV people that were on hand uh
given the trip. But anyways, that's not it. Okay, that's not just one point that we have. And don't worry because I'm
going to show you after I plotted all of this into our timeline. Just a few weeks before Charlie died, Mikey McCoy and his
wife Eliza for the very first time. Now, this is according to Eliza McCoy, she
shared that it was the first time ever that they went on vacation. Her and Mikey went on vacation with Erica and
Charlie. Here's that post on Instagram. That second paragraph begins, "We spent a few weeks together this summer. Our
first family trip together." Okay, getting real close there. And while they
were on this very first time together for a couple of weeks vacation, something moved the McCoys to capture
intimate and sweet moments of the Kirk family from behind the scenes. Now, you know which footage I'm talking about.
It's the footage that has since gone viral of Charlie walking with his children and Erica. Erica grabs his
hand. It's actually a very sweet moment and it moved a lot of us. People were I know I was crying when I first saw this
footage a couple of days um after Charlie uh died. Well, let me tell you guys something.
Fortunately, the McCoys were the ones that captured that footage. See, my thing is I need to know what moved them
to do that. Is are are they really just that extraordinary? Is it the extraordinarily lucky Mikey McCoy?
Because I was thinking about it because I have a big family and people with families know and you can go through
Charlie's Instagram as I have done. Uh there's always one person missing from
intimate family moments when they're on the fly. They're not planned, right? there tends to be one family member missing because one person grabs the
camera and you're capturing the kids with dad or you're capturing the kids with mom or it's just the kids whatever
it is that's how family footage when it's organic tends to look right and of course on holidays you get together you
stand up you capture a picture that is the pattern if you go through Erica Charlie's Instagram Charlie's missing or
Erica's missing and that's because they're filming each other but thankfully the McCoys were on hand in
what looks like mid July or early August into early August. According to my source, my sources, we will nail down
these specific dates in the future. We are working on it. Okay. Strikes me as odd that Mikey is just picking up the
camera and capturing these moments. I don't know. I don't know. For the first time ever, I don't like it. I don't like it at all. And if I'm in Erica's
position, I'm starting to look at him funny like what's going on here? Okay. Now, let's bring in Daddy McCoy.
Wouldn't say. He strikes me as something else entirely. And he similarly had some
rather impeccable timing. Rob McCoy, as you very well know, was the senior pastor of the Godspeak Calvary Chapel uh
in Thousand Oaks, California. You should also know, by the way, let me introduce this to you right now because I didn't
know that he was funded, his church was funded by the Wilks brothers down in
Texas. The Wilks brothers are the ones that fund Daily Wire. We're, you know, the initial seed money behind the Daily
Wire, the initial seed uh not the initial seed money behind Prageru, but they majorly fund Prager University as
well. So, that's an interesting web that's being uh woven before our eyes, right? You got PragerU and now you've
got this this church and they are part of what is described online as a cult.
It's like Christians for Jews. I don't you look into it yourself. I I honestly can't explain it, but that's just
something that you should know in the background. Anyway, for whatever reason, after 17 years as the head pastor of
that church, Rob McCoy, it was publicly announced in January of this year that he would be stepping down as the head
pastor and instead assuming the role of pastor ammeritus. Now, for the uninitiated, ameritus is basically just
an honorific title, right? bestowed upon someone after they retire from some
distinguished position. For Rob McCoy, they had planned that transition. That
transition took effect in mid July of this year. Okay, mid July of this year
is when he officially steps down from the church. Lot going on here in McCoyland. Now, in case you're thinking,
well, that doesn't mean that he was doing all of that and transitioning because he was anticipating some bigger
role at Turning Point USA and maybe therefore planning to wind down his life
in California. No, actually, that's exactly the reason that was cited when
it was reported on in January. Uh, in the Ventura County Star, they wrote,
quote, "He's approaching a transition in July. He'll step down as the senior pastor of God Speak and hand the reigns
to his son-in-law, Micah Stevens, the church's administrative and worship pastor. McCoy will become the ameritus
pastor and will still preach regularly at the church in a role that could last into the mid70s. And then it goes on to
say, "When McCoy's responsibilities grew at Turning Point USA, he and his wife sold their home in Thousand Oaks and
bought a home in the Phoenix area." Uh, now he said that he bought a different
place in Thousand Oaks. He also owns a home in Coronado near San Diego. Now,
what we can confirm to you is that Rob actually put that secondary home in
Coronado up for sale on August 24th, 2025 of this year. He listed his home up
for sale. So, suffice it to say that the fantastic, heroic, sensational McCoys
were pretty busy this summer. And I don't like it at all. I just don't like it. The vibes for me are not good. Now,
we can take a look at our timeline here with these new moves added into it. We're going to start looking at July
11th because that's when I think things reached some sort of a pinnacle. That's
the infamous speech uh that Tucker Carlson gave where he calls out Bill Aman. He starts talking about Israel,
all this stuff and things start moving. Okay. Now you can see on that's July
11th and he says that people who serve in foreign armies should be stripped of
their citizenship. He muses about where Bill Aman's wealth comes from. July 18th
is our next date on our timeline and this came from this is a great find from Sam Parker. Uh that is when Turning
Point USA uh receives a request from UVU for Charlie to hold an event at Utah
Valley. Not only do they instantly accept this request, but they also make it his first stop, which is incredible.
Uh, we can listen to a news anchor, I think this is from Fox News Salt Lake City, describe exactly when that request
went out, as we're telling you on July 18th. Take a listen. Utah Valley University has provided the document
that created the rally at which conservative activist Charlie Kirk was shot to death, but it is not providing
the security plan for that day. I'm Fox 13 investigative reporter Nate Carile.
We've been asking UVU for records related to the September 10th Kirk rally. After about six weeks, this is
the first record provided. It's the application submitted mid July by the UVU chapter of Kirk's Turning Point USA.
The applicants answer standard questions about time, place, and a description of the event. However, we noticed there is
one question not asked on the form. whether organizers need any police protection. That's a standard inquiry
at, for example, University of Utah events. Speaking of police, UVU has
denied Fox 13 News's request for a copy of the Kirk Rally security plan. The
university is citing the provision in state records laws keeping confidential quote security measures end quote. The
campus also has expressed concern that the records could interfere in any investigation and someone's right to a
fair trial. Tyler Robinson is charged with Kirk's murder. Fox 13 plans an
appeal of the denial and we are still pursuing a variety of records related to the Kirk shooting.
Well, Fox 13 News, if I can be of any assistance, you just reach out to me because I've done a lot of these events
and everything happening here is unusual. Okay. for them to honor a request. I mean, they get every
university across all 50 states trying to get Charlie and I to speak. Okay. A a
request going in that late being honored and becoming stop number one within a couple of weeks. I'm going to say that's
never happened. I'm going to dig through my inbox. Okay. I'm going to dig through my inbox. I'm going to see what the normal security protocols are because as
everybody has noticed, there was no ambulance on standby. And that's against Utah law. And so it's
interesting that they don't want to release the security plan because I'm pretty sure this was an extraordinary
first time thing where they didn't have a security plan. And I had received a tip and I do want to check this out by
the way that they also had initially slated for this event to be inside but it was moved. Again, I have to look into
that. I'm not confirming that. But if that's true as well, things are about to get very interesting. And guess what
guys, there's more. And this part is crazy. I guess it's not really crazy. I
Exclusive news on Israeli cell phones.
think I saw like Milo Yiannopoulos tweeted, I think is now I think Israel did it and that's because he was
tweeting about the bizarre lie of them saying Erica Kirk was accepting this award and they completely fictionalized
it. They've just been lying non-stop quickly, right? Uh right out the gate, BBNet and Yahoo doing propaganda rounds
uh denying that he had anything to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Perfectly normal thing to do, right? Perfectly normal. For some reason, I didn't feel compelled to do that. I
didn't feel like I had to get on camera and make a statement that I didn't kill Charlie Kirk. But BBnet and Yahoo felt
that he needed to do that. And all of his sickle fans in America echoed that statement. And nobody had accused them.
A thief runth when no one pursueth. Right. Well, here's some explosive news for you that I can now beyond a shadow
of a doubt confirm. Putting my name on this. Not only can I confirm this, but I can publicly challenge the very Zionist
occupied Trump administration who is aware of this to deny it. To come out and say, "No, that's not true." Okay?
And if Cash Patel is done crying about the mean tweets on the internet regarding his sensational singing
girlfriend, he can also certainly make the time of day to deny what I am saying
if it is untrue, right? Because this is pretty relevant. Now, I should say that
some people had actually reported this earlier, like Mel. I've been telling you to follow her village crazy lady over on
X. She was actually very early with this reporting and I had heard rumors and rumblings, but I wanted to make sure
that I had verifiable proof, enough proof that I would go out on a limb, as I'm doing right now, and asserting that it is authentic and it is real. Ladies
and gentlemen, there were, for whatever reason, 12 Israeli cell phones on the
ground at Utah Valley University the day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
This has completely spooked the people that are very high up in government. Now, to be clear, I don't mean that
there were 12 VPNs that were switched and routed through Israel on that day. I
mean that there were 12 personal cell phone accounts that were opened in
Israel. Okay? Like you go into Verizon in Tennessee or in Connecticut and you
open your phone. I am saying that they opened their phones in Israel, those accounts in Israel and they were on the
ground on September 10th at Utah Valley University when Charlie was shot. Now
the NSA knows this. Cash Patel knows this. People in the current administration know that know this and
they are desperate for some reason to stop that information from being released to the public. Why?
Because they're the most transparent administration ever. Is that why is this like Jeffrey Epstein transparency that
we're getting? Because that's what it feels like. It always seems that on the topic of this one nation that's only the
size of New Jersey and has done nothing wrong ever and was truly the greatest friend to Charlie right up until the
very end. never put any pressure on him. Suddenly, everybody abandons their
values. True friends of Charlie Kirk, right? Mhm. Standing on that stage giving him a speech, hiding this. Now, what would be
the reason that they wanted to keep that information under wraps? And why does it have people at the very top spooked? If
there's nothing to hide, then there's nothing to hide. Okay? If there's nothing to hide, then there's nothing to
hide. Now, let's play devil's advocate. And to be clear, we are now advocating for the
devil when we do this. Maybe the cell phones belonged to some exchange
students. It's possible. Maybe 12 Israelis were touring UVU on that day
because, I don't know, Utah Valley University is a place where they maybe wanted to attend in the future. maybe 12
American students had Israeli based cell phones because they had just come back
from a summer abroad program and they wanted to keep their Israeli cell phones
running when they got back home to Utah. I don't know, but I'd like to know. In
fact, we need to know the answer to this question. Why are they hiding this
information? And why and who did those 12 Israeli cell phones belong to? Okay.
I don't like secrets. I don't like secrets, especially when they pertain to
the public execution of my friend Charlie Kirk. We'll take a break and we'll come right back. All right, you
guys.
Midterm elections push.
So, we've got planes from Egypt, cell phones from Israel, and we are
getting the runaround from the Trump administration, the runaround from his friends, the people that wanted to just
stop asking questions and move on. What does this feel like to you? What does this feel like to you? Sometimes I wish
I was born yesterday, right? It would be so easy to just accept him like, "Oh, yeah. I totally there just was a lone
shooter who, you know, had had never really been hunted, but he got really lucky and he just fired this shot and he
got he never been to the campus, but he somehow knew how to scale the buildings running around like Spider-Man. I wish I
was born yesterday so I could just accept that. I do." Unfortunately, I wasn't born yesterday. I was actually
born 36 years ago and everyone is full
of it. I am looking at a situation where Charlie was betrayed and is actively being betrayed every day by the very
people that he helped to elect people that are in office. They are betraying him by trying to feed us this nonsense.
Okay? They are feeding us they're they're selling us crap and trying to tell us it's food, right? Like this is
nourishing or something. I just won't tolerate it. Okay? And it is, I think,
one of the craziest things happening right now that these people are now
telling us to shift gears and that it's our duty, right? It's our duty to make
sure more of them get elected. Now, there are a lot of people running around right now. Uh there are races, important
races, they tell us, going on in the country, consequential races that are happening. And people online are being
somewhat accusatory, upset that Republicans are infighting, if that's what you're calling this. I'm not
fighting with you, okay? I'm going to see this thing all the way through. And that we're instead focused on using our
platforms um to fight one another rather than to encourage people to go vote so
that Republicans can stay in power across various cities. You know, as just one example, of course, people really uh
cannot stop speaking about the M Donnie versus the Kuomo mayoral race in New York. Now, Cuomo's already one of the
most corrupt families in New York. And now they're like, "No, switch gears because mom Donnie is going to be worse
and it's your job as a good little Republican, okay, to go out there and to
make sure that mom Donnie doesn't win." And to those very many people, I would like to say, "No,
I'm good. Actually, I'm just not interested. I'm interested in nothing until you start telling the truth about
what happened to Charlie Kirk. Until you acknowledge that a 30 six did not go through his neck, did not get stopped
rather by his neck. Until you acknowledge that that story that you tried to sell us is complete BS,
something that could take down a moose somehow did not take down Charlie Kirk. Are you kidding me? Are you absolutely
kidding me? I'm not interested in your races around the country. I'm not voting until this is resolved. Okay, this is
toxic. You are toxic. And it is unbelievably abusive to suggest that I
have to now reinvest and work for the exact same party that told me that if I
voted for them and got the word out for them, and I did do all of those things, that things would be different.
Corruption's going to stop. We're going to be the most transparent thing administration that you've ever seen.
Except on those Epstein files. Yeah, I know. He was like um abusing children.
But what Epstein files were we even talking about? No.
No thank you. No. Nope. Goodbye. Not doing it anymore. You're left versus
right. Don't care anymore. There is power and there is the rest of us. There
is power and there is the rest of us and you are not going to convince me that any of this stuff is consequential after
I just watched Charlie Kirk catch a bullet in his throat and am watching all of you lie about it.
Okay, there's
actually this uh vintage clip from TRL, remember Total Request Live
with Carson Daily that perfectly embodies me and how I am feeling in this
moment. So, let's watch that vintage clip together. Hi. Um, my name is Manda and I live in
Florida. Being a young black female and a also a teen mother. Um, what do you
guys do to get back give back to the community? Um, also directed mostly
towards OD. I know PR and the Fujis do things for the community, but what do you what is going to be your thing for
the community? Nothing. [Applause]
Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong now. Don't get me wrong. Send you love
to the Republicans. I send you love. Okay? Don't get me wrong. I send you love. But what I will be doing for the
broader community until you start telling the truth is nothing. Nothing.
So don't even don't don't at me. I just don't care at all. Not even a little bit. Anyway, uh, two of the like three
Tucker goes on Dave Smith to address backlash.
people that I still like that are within the realm of politics got together. Tucker Carlson joined Dave Smith. I kind
of want to qualify Tucker Carlson. I feel like I want to say the stupendous Tucker Carlson joined Dave Smith on his
show to respond to all of this Zionist backlash that he was receiving for having a conversation with Nick Fuentes.
And foremost, Tucker explains why he had the conversation with Nick Fuentes. Take a listen.
[Tucker Carlson] I didn't make Nick Fuentes hardly. I just want to know what this is about. And I wanted to make the point that I
often make and now seems even more important than it ever has, which is that virtue
and sin are not transmitted genetically. There is no such thing as blood guilt.
Therefore, collective punishment is always immoral. God created each person individually. He did not create
communities at once. He created this theology one is and all of us will die and in the end face God alone. So it's
about the person and people can be changed by God by the way. And the New Testament is that story of people who
were in the case of the whole hero of the New Testament. The human hero was a guy called Paul was murdering Christians
as a Pharisee and then becomes the greatest proitizer in the history of Christianity and my personal hero. are
like don't tell me that people can't be changed because of their blood. Now that
is the basis that position is the basis of western civilization. We often talk about western civilization and we're all
defending western civil Israel is defending western civilization. Israel does not have a western position on this
question. The Israeli position, not of all Israelis by the way, and certainly not of all Jews, but I'm saying of the
Israeli government and of a couple of its ministers, which they say this out loud all the time, is that everybody
who's related to a terrorist shares in his guilt. That's collective punishment. It is blood guilt. And it's anothetical
to Christianity and to the West. And so for me, and by the way, Israel is not the only country that does this. Most
countries do this. Literally, most countries do this. all of Asia, India. This is like an intuitive response that
people have. Okay. So that I actually introduced that wrong.
That's Tucker just giving the broader theological delivering the
broader theological point which is important that people have the capacity to change. And actually we're kind of in
this weird psychosis as a society. And I would say that this is kind of one of the things they're trying to deliver to
us is that some people are just deplorable. Like everything about them is just so deplorable. We have to throw
them away. And that's what creates these sort of movements. People are just tired of it. They're just tired of this. This
is not the way that Christians think. Actually, we very much don't live in a Christian society because we live in a Christian Zionist society. And Christian
Zionism is a it's a paradox. Okay? It's there's no such thing as Christian Zionism because Zion Zionism is all
about identity, right? It's all about identity. Because I am a Jew, I
therefore have a right to this land. Because they are Jews and I am a Christian. I recognize that I'm going to get into heaven if I just worship how
BBNet and Yahoo even if when he kills tens of thousands of kids. That is a political ideology. It is not a religion
and it is dangerous and is wrong and it is it is backwards and it is of course antithetical to the Bible.
Now Tucker then explains specifically why he chose to have a conversation with Nick
Fuentes. Take a listen.
[Tucker Carlson] You should be forgiving always. Things are being said right now that almost
seem like they can't be forgiven. They're so they're they're exhortations to violence. Clearly they are,
etc., etc. Slander of a kind that's so severe. Like, how do you get past that? I think we should force ourselves. I
interviewed Nick Fuentes who attacked my wife and my son and my dad. Can't take my dad. And I interviewed him anyway. I
choked it back and I thought to myself, I'm just I want to hear this and I'm just going to make we I try to make
myself do that. So if tomorrow John Putarts is like or whomever I'm mad at,
right, people I used to know who are calling me a Nazi is like, you know what, I don't I don't think he's actually a Nazi, like let's have a real
conversation. Let's do the best for America. They should all be accepted. I don't think we should have permanent
enemies who are American citizens. I don't because I think the whole idea of it is we're united by citizenship, our
common Americanness. Everybody's welcome, even if we hated each other 20 minutes ago. And Glenn Greenwald, I
mean, I hated Glenn Greenwald. Now I think he's one of my favorite people in the world, not just monthly but personally. Like forgiveness is
essential. People change. Allow for that. Don't draw permanent lines in the sand where
it's like I hate you and I will hate your son too. Like that's non-western thinking. We don't allow that.
I want you to really consider you listen to Tucker's perspectives and what's guiding his perspectives and then go
backwards and listen to like Mark Levin and these people that get on their platforms and call him irredeemable and
you realize there's a different spirit moving within these within these groups, right? And he is what Christianity is,
right? It's about forgiveness. It's about when you're angry, not assuming that there's some like blood oath that
you need to honor, but saying, "You know what? Nick Fuentes says something crappy things about me and I'm going to speak to him." I did the same thing. I was
like the bigger person, hosted him. And he was, by the way, still a jerk. Uh, but this idea that he shouldn't have a
platform. He shouldn't be allowed to speak. He shouldn't be allowed to think. He shouldn't be allowed to breathe. What is that from? What is your faith? Don't
You're definitely not going to convince me that that's the first five books of the Bible. Okay, I know what your faith is. It's Zionism, okay? You guys behave
like gangsters. You behave like you are only loyal to one another and you'll come beat up any person figuratively.
Um, you'll take care of any person that gets in your way. And the world can see that now.
So, what's your next move, to just keep doing this? To just keep behaving like this? And just know that every act that you make, every show,
everything that you make go viral with you speaking in the way that you speak and then people get to hear Tucker, he
gets bigger and you get smaller. Okay. He gets bigger. Our ideas get bigger. Your ideas get smaller because people
can perceive the nastiness that's guiding it and they want nothing to do with it.
Okay. Now, um I'm going to take
a brief break because I know that you guys have a lot of comments and we also have book club tonight and we're going to get deeper by the way into that sort
of guiding theology uh when we get back into the Sigman Freud book because it
really really connects dots for you, right? What that guiding philosophy comes from is actually a psychology. it
is a psychology and he's the father of it as they call him the father of modern psychology and so really stepping back
into time and understanding what was happening at the turn of the 19th century across Europe why so many speech
laws have been passed in Europe uh kind of Christians in the way that we're doing right now waking up and going what
is the guiding philosophy of these people that seem like they hate us like they're trying to to abuse like what
what have we done wrong to be treated like this this book is really an aha moment and I'm excited for the book
club. I'm excited and I understand why Zionist infiltrated it, but we're not going to stop. But first, let's let's get to a couple of sponsors, then I'm
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Comments.
I'm going to start pulling the top comment that makes me chuckle. There were a couple of them yesterday, but this one we regarding Cash Patel's tweet
calling his girlfriend a sensational country singer. It was so weird. This
user wrote, Cheryl writes, "After hearing Cash Patel's tweet, I'm 90% sure
he's the one that wrote Tyler's message to his furry lover." Absolutely. You are
correct. It's now a fact. It's now a fact. Just kidding, but I loved that comment. All right, comment from today's episode. Laughing cats music world
writes, "I keep thinking about George Zinn. I know he was a habitual Salt Lake City event disruptor, but what are the
chances his reflex is to take the blame voluntarily?" Voluntarily. I guess it's possible, but wow. crazy split decision
to make, right? Not even a hesitation. I I told you guys that we had a source leak to us. He went to the hospital. He
went to Utah Valley Hospital uh after this event to treat some of his like mild injuries from being dragged and he
told people that he was told to do it and he was paid to do it and but he didn't know where the payment was coming
from. So, yeah, this was this entire thing was just an operation. Like I said, uh Brandon Hansen writes, "Been a
lifelong Israel supporter. Recently, I've come to not like BB, but I still love the land where the Lord was born, a
Zionist who dislikes Netanyahu. Curious how you feel about that love from Maine. It at least makes me happy to hear you
acknowledge that there's a demon. I don't It's It's the strangest thing to me when these people are treating BBNet
and Yahoo like he is their Christ. And that is what makes it a disgusting heresy, right? like to misinterpret the
Bible so much that you're basically platforming and honoring what BB Netanyahu does, avoiding the topic, not
acknowledging that what he's doing to the Palestinians is wrong. Um, having love for Jerusalem, that makes sense.
Having love uh for to to be able to walk in Jerusalem and to see the relics, that
all makes sense to me. And I think I'm just more disgusted by people who turn a blind eye to everything that's happened to the Palestinians. It just makes me
sick. and to see him on camera acting like such a gangster and that and people pretending that he's holy or that
there's ever even a a shred of documented proof that these people are the original people from the Holy Land
is crazy. There's way more uh proof to the contrary which they stopped printing even their own textbooks which they've
stopped printing that point to the fact that they came from Turkey the Turk Ashkenaz tribe uh that came down began
speaking Yiddish and then needed a place to go after World War II. It's crazy to me. The whole thing's crazy. Again, I
would debate anybody on that topic. Um, definitely feeling especially fired up about it. A Smoky Mountain Kitty writes,
"Always trust your gut. Our brain takes in far more information than we are aware of. I love your show and all that
you do." Thank you so much. Uh, Beck Build writes, "So glad Charlie had you." On another topic, dinosaurs. Hundreds of
Bible believing PhD scientists have evidence that dinosaurs are real. Killed during the global flood of Genesis. The
Institute for Creation Research. answers in Genesis and creation. Okay guys, I'm
sorry. Nope. Sorry. And this is going to get I bet you the people that are going through my book club by the end of this you're going to see that there was a
conscious movement as I said at the end at the turn of the century same time they started going oh we found dinosaur
uh bone to and then you get into like the research of you come from an
oralopythecus and they describe this as like oh suddenly science was peing and
actually what was happening is they wanted to make people invest in scientism that's a CS Lewis perspective.
He writes about that in one of his books where they wanted to turn science into God and as long as they say there's an
expert, there's research experts say that people would fall into line and that's what we see happening. So, I
can't do a deep dive on the dinosaur thing right now, but the book club, we're going to go there eventually. And
I just can I don't know. I just I see a bigger picture, a broader picture now. removing the Bibles from classrooms,
teaching people that they're homo sapiens and they started walking straight, but also the monkeys are still
here. It was very methodical and yeah, broader conversation to have. I can't
wait for that clip to go viral. By the way, like I care like I also don't believe the moon landings happened, so you can cut that clip because they
didn't happen. That's crazy. More scientism. Anyways, Smokey, I'm sorry. Christine writes, "Loyalty is rare.
Christ is king. Indeed, he is." Beth Mitchum writes, "So we give Israel
billions. People who support Israel give Apac money to give our government uh to
give to our government to vote the way Israel wants. So my tax money pays for Israeli ideas. We pay Congress twice.
Can you say moneyaundering?" Uh yeah, that's what it feels like for sure. We give our tax dollars, they go overseas,
and then they yell at us for paying attention to what they're doing overseas and then call us anti-Semitic. This is
like the worst deal ever. I' I'd like that deal to be undone, and it certainly isn't going to be undone in this
administration. That's for sure. Jennifer K writes just asked Grock if Israel and Egypt coordinate on
intelligence ops. It says yes, calling their cooperation unprecedented. Uh since the 1979 peace treaty, intel
chiefs have met often, share real-time data. Honestly, few countries make more sense working together. Yeah. Uh country
A that gets most of our money is Israel, B is Egypt, and there is a reason for that. It's so it doesn't look like it's
all going to Israel. That's my perspective. Darth Phantom writes, "Citizens have and I would say since the
1967 war, do you think that they would let Israel control the SNI peninsula?" Anyways, more on that later. Darth
Phantom writes, "itizens have always paid taxes to finally be able to retire and the thanks that we get uh for this
is they raise the age on us to retire and we all obey like idiots. Am I the only one angered about this?" Yeah, it's
all coming apart. We're realizing it's all one big scam. It's all usery. uh and it is a sin and everything that's
happening into our in our country, our culture, the corrosion. I think it's because America has married to Zionism.
Like I I truly do believe that and I think a lot of people are waking up to that. We were a better country when we
were a Christian nation. We are no longer a Christian nation. We are an occupied nation with an ideology that
has produced filth in our culture. Uh Miranda writes, "Hi Candace, I'm 23 and I should be clear, a political ideology
dressed up as a religion and a faith." Miranda writes, "Can I'm 23 and newly married. We just found out that I'm
pregnant. Congratulations. I'm nervous, but I know children are God's blessing. Do you have any advice for me as a young mother? Is it okay to be nervous?" My
advice would be not to take advice. It is going to be the most natural job that you have. You are going to just know what to do when you see the baby. Um,
and it will make you a better person because you will be so tapped into God's creation. You will realize that there is
something more. It is one of the sins in the culture that kind of trained us to
have children later is that we don't tap into our divine purpose and children
immediately have you tap into your divine purpose. You feel more wholesome uh more confident. I became a more
confident person when I had children because I suddenly realized what matters and what doesn't matter. And that's why
I fight like hell for truth because it matters, right? my investment is that I have children and my silence is
essentially cowardice. That would gar guarantee that their future would be compromised, could be more compromised
than our lives are right now right now. Uh lastly, real light worker writes, "Have you looked into events going on at
UVU that day? A college student posted an FB real of her experience? She ran into a building where the room was
filled with uniformed people and a bunch of different flags. Who were they? That's the Hall of Flags that's behind
Charlie's head. And I do find something suspicious was going on there. I've never gotten clarity, but that's where
notoriously the person who filmed the footage, the only footage um that we have of of the uh person running across
who they say is the shooter running across uh the Lozi Center. So yeah, look, we are investigating every day
with more information. Tomorrow we will have uh more explosive information and revelations about the Egyptian plane,
which so interesting. Speaking of the unique relationship between Egypt and Israel, Tik Tok is hitting us for videos
talking about the Egyptian planes. That's very strange. Israel's moderator
served in the IDF, we know, and they BB wants Tik Tok secured for Israel's
future. Why do they care about Egyptian planes that were there? It's kind of coming together. There's a picture here
that's coming together. Anyways, you guys, we have to jump off because we do have book club tonight. So, I will see you guys in the Zionist infiltration on
our book club. We finally did it, guys. We went viral and they're stealing clips from behind the payw wall. Uh, if you
guys would like to support our work, you know, you can go to kandiswowens.com. You can go to make him a sandwichand.com
uh to buy the book. You will really enjoy this book. It's really important, especially for women to understand where
these feminist ideals came from. And beyond that, we will see you guys tomorrow.
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