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Did Charlie Kirk Fake His Death? The Squib Theory Explained
TriggerSmart
Nov 9, 2025 TriggerSmart Talks

Today, we’re diving into one of the most bizarre theories floating around — that Charlie Kirk might have faked his death using Hollywood-style squibs and fake blood effects.



Transcript

Hello and welcome back to Trigger Smart.
So, I've covered a lot of crazy out
there topics, especially with the
Charlie Kirk stuff, different theories
and things that have happened um
theoretically, right? So, this is
another theory that I find very
interesting. So, I wanted to cover this
one. And this is the famous squib load
or faking his death.
For much of the 20th century, squibs
were the backbone of cinematic violence.
The small but mighty devices have been
crucial to some of the film industry's
most delightfully bloody movies.
Today, Squibs can be seen as a standin
in the heated debate over practical
versus digital effects.
Consider this your graphic content
warning. So, as you can see there, these
squibs provide the blood effects in
Hollywood, and they've been using them
for a long time. A lot of stuff now they
do through CGI, but back in the day and
even now still to this day, they put
these packs under the skin or in certain
areas under their clothes and they use
those to explode and then you have the
gore, right? So obviously these are fake
examples. This is not real blood and
it's important to realize that uh this
is something that's been done for a very
long time. So you can pretty much
imagine they've mastered it.
A squib refers to a small explosive
device
In movies, squibs are used to simulate
gunshots hitting either inanimate
surfaces or a person.
[Applause]
The squib used on a person in film is
often referred to as a blood squib or
bullet hit squib.
There are three primary components to a
blood squib. First, there's the squib
itself, which is a small disshaped
explosive.
The strength of the squib depends on
where on the body it's being placed and
what
so it's important to remember that the
squib is just a charge and that charge
itself could theoretically do damage and
in this case they're using that squib to
explode the fake blood.
The desired outcome is
then there's the packet of fake blood
and whatever else is needed to simulate
the gore.
And finally there is a protective layer
to minimize risk to the actor.
The squib is typically assembled by a
pyro technician or someone with a T2
pyrochnics license.
They will tape the packet of fake blood
to the squib, leaving an opening in the
front so that it can explode outward.
And then that device will be taped
against the protective layer to an
actor's body or costume. Okay, so listen
what they said there. They said that
they put it close to the actor's body.
And as you can see here, it does stick
up in this case anyway. In this specific
one, it does stick up some. But I just
want you to look at this because I'm
going to show you something later. This
is why the person thinks this may be
what's actually going on.
Costume designer will have multiples of
the outfit the squibs are in for
additional takes. They will also often
need to score the fabric so that the
explosive can more easily burst through
the clothing. Usually the detonation of
a squib will employ a two-step ignition.
Now just imagine how much trust you have
to have because there's actually an
explosive on your body
where both the actor and a crew member
will have to activate it. This avoids
accidental detonations.
For gunshots into walls or elements of
the set, squib process is largely the
same except protective plating isn't
needed. Of course, use of squibs on set
should prioritize safety and attention
to detail since they are live
explosives.
Okay, so now you know what a squib is.
You see that they can use it for various
different things. And they can use it in
movies to fake gunshots, heads
exploding, and that kind of thing. and
they've been using it for a long time
and Hollywood has kind of mastered it,
right? And they also use it in walls and
things like when you see the gunshots
and you see the little pieces of the
concrete behind them kind of flying out.
That's what they use them for. All
right, so now we're going to look at
some alternatives to a squib if it was
maybe something else.
[Music]
Some productions will use compressed
air, which is safer and cheaper.
They will work similarly to squibs.
Look how bulky that is. So, some people
were saying there's like a compressed
air underneath his shirt that maybe like
shot something up or whatever. But, I
mean, if he was wearing this, there
would be no doubt that something was
wrong. And I'll show you pictures that
show what he looks like in his shirt and
his skin and everything underneath. Not
a skin underneath, obviously, but you'll
see um there are some little bulges or
some kind of like questionable areas,
but maybe it was an audio pack. I don't
know. But check this out. is squibs
except instead of an explosion is a
burst of air which pushes out the blood.
But this option is also bulkier and not
as reliable.
By far the most popular alternative is
CGI.
A CG bullet wound is cheaper as well as
much safer. So now we're going to talk
about that too. Um, there is one gif
that will probably get this video
demonetized, but there's one gif that
shows that the spot that you see on the
video doesn't align in two different
frames. It's in a different spot. It
doesn't. In other words, it doesn't move
with his body. So, let's just keep
going. It's also easier to pull off on
set since no blood has to be cleaned up
and costumes don't need to be swapped
out. CG also allows for more freedom for
gunshot placement. Squibs on or near an
actor's face, for example, are extremely
difficult and can be dangerous.
So, just based on what they just said,
just think about a squib being right on
his neck. First of all, with how big
they were, at least the ones we're
seeing here, it'd be obvious that you
see it. And second of all, it's an
explosive right there on his neck.
That's extremely dangerous. So, for them
to like fake this all would basically
have to mean they could hide it first of
all and then an explosion is happening
on his neck. I mean, it just seems a
little far-fetched to me. All right, so
now let's look at the actual theory. So,
someone sent me this. They want to
remain anonymous. Hey, thanks for
everything you're doing. Amazing job.
God bless. You need to see these high
resolution photos. I have seen these
photos and I've actually shared these
photos. But here's what he's talking
about. This is like the details, his
breakdown. So, the neck has a weird
bulge.
All right. Interesting.
Now, to me, we'll look at more photos.
You only see it here. You don't see it
in other photos. So, this might just be
the angle of his neck, the way he's
moving his neck, but it does seem very
strange like that. That looks a little
suspect to me, but could just be how his
body is, you know?
Then we have the shoulder has a weird
shape. And if you look at this, I think
it's talking about here.
It does seem like there's something
there. It's not normal. Like if you look
at my shirt, like you're not seeing what
looks like a cable or something there
maybe. Right now again, you know,
theory. So this could be a cable or
something going to a squib. I don't
know. He might be wired up in some other
way, but his chain is clearly over here,
right? And I would think if they were
doing this for real, why would they have
him wear a white shirt?
Like a white shirt while trying to hide
all this squib stuff and his chain. I
mean, like you can see his chain clear
as day through the white shirt. So if he
had anything else, like if this is a
cable or something, which it does look
kind of strange. It looks like he has
like a wire or bump or something on his
shoulder. Um, at least right here. So
this person is saying the camera is
clear, looks normal. So, I mean, based
on my videography background, yeah,
looks pretty normal. You have a battery
here. It's on a Vmount clipped on. You
have another clip with a bracket. It's
going to the camera. And then this is
just feeding the camera battery power.
So, it seems like this is pretty normal,
but it looks like something's missing
here that you see in other photos like
cuz people were talking about line of
sight from that, but there's actually
something above it that was in line of
sight um at the proper angle based on
Jason Goodman's uh theory. So, it looks
like there's something missing. Maybe
it's higher up here or he hasn't added
it yet. But this looks, you know, pretty
normal. So, if you were some kind of spy
or something and you rigged this, most
likely you'd have it go through the
lens. So, everything else would kind of
look normal. So, in this case, it looks
like the camera passes. Then this person
goes on to say, "Shirt from the back.
What are these? They look like a squib
kit." Now, I don't know what defines
something as a squib kit. We looked at
some of the images before, but basically
it looks like a little charge that would
be under the shirt. So you see these
little strange angled markings here.
So typically like this looks like packs
on his back, right? Like those aren't
normal things you would see in someone's
shirt. Like see these natural wrinkles
and lines that are in here. And you can
see like the the natural creases and
stuff that it makes. These don't look
natural at all. Neither does that one.
Right. It wouldn't be a random bump
there. Look at that. So, yeah, that's a
little suspect, a little strange. Okay,
let's keep going. Shirt from the front
looks like a bag of some sort of object.
Is he talking about this?
Could be some air under there. You know,
Charlie Kirk's a pretty slender person,
so I don't think it's a gut, right?
So, there could be something there, but
it could also just be his shirt pushing
out and from him walking. I don't know.
It's hard to tell from this angle.
What do you think? Right. And then this
is where it gets really interesting.
This person is saying that
now this has been covered. Right. This
is just a black circle, but this exactly
covers the spot where he was shot. So,
this is saying in this theory that if
you watch it, it looks like, you know,
CGI, it doesn't it's not it's not moving
with his body, right? So, in other
words, he's reacting to the shot, but
this wound, this neck wound that
everyone's seeing, which if that's an
entry wound, that's the biggest entry
wound I've ever seen. But anyway, uh it
looks like that is not moving with his
flesh. And what they did is they have
two different frames that they pulled
from a video and this is what it looks
like. So it almost looks like a frame
was pulled out from between those if
something actually like a squib or
something went off, right? Kind of
strange, kind of interesting. Now,
whenever you get stuff like this just
manipulated, you know, you have to take
it with a grain of salt. But if this is
real, then that would be very strange
that that is that that wound is not
lining up with his body movement at all.
And remember, I said I'd show a couple
shots where his neck looked normal,
right? So, you don't see that big bulge
that was on the side of his neck. And I
don't know when that bulge showed. Was
it when he first got there? Was it in
the middle of the event? Was it right
before he got shot? I don't know. But
they didn't have time to add it. When he
was walking in and being filmed by
thousands of people. And then you can
see here again, if I zoom into this
shirt,
you know, it does look very strange
right here. If I zoom in more,
you know, that doesn't look normal. That
doesn't look natural. But if you've
ever, you know, had something where you,
you know, like if you take your fingers
and you stretch them into your shirt for
a little bit and then let go, your
finger marks kind of stay there. So,
could this be something like that? I
don't know. Okay. So, now that we've
seen what a squib is, let's look at what
doesn't support that theory. So, if
people say there's state actors that are
taking him out or that took him out,
that wouldn't fit. If Tyler Robinson or
someone was on the roof and also him
being in court, maybe it's the pathy,
that also doesn't fit. And then the way
that he seized up when he got shot, that
would take some amazing acting. And
would also have to not let Erica know
what he was doing to make this actually
work. Does she know if that's what he
did? Now, here's the things that might
support it. So maybe Israel took him
into witness protection if they knew
someone was after him. Now his shirt
blowing out, similar to the mic theory,
that would make a lot of sense if a
squib exploded. His team refusing
medical to help him because they would
possibly see that he was fine. I'm
talking about the EMTs.
Them taking him out quickly with his
head flopping around, not necessarily
stable yet. That makes sense if they
were just trying to rush and get him
away. and then the TPUSA staff acting
unnatural and nonchalant in some cases
like Mikey on his phone walking away.
That would make a lot more sense if they
knew that he was fine. So, let me know
your thoughts down below. Is this
something that seems feasible? We saw
some strange things on his shirt. We saw
the neck wound that looks like it's CGI
and added. We saw the bulge in his neck
earlier in a couple different areas. I
guess theoretically it could be
possible, but it's probably pretty
far-fetched. What do you guys think? I'm
sure it's probably happened before to
other people. What do you think the
chances are that this was a faked death
in this case? Let me know your thoughts
down in the comments. And don't forget
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the next one.

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They Laughed at the Pendant Theory — Then the Data Came Out (Charlie Kirk)
TriggerSmart
Oct 28, 2025 TriggerSmart Talks

They said it couldn’t happen… that the pendant couldn’t possibly pierce the neck. But once again, the evidence may tell a different story. In this new entry, Kalikukul returns with another precision breakdown — exploring how the pendant’s weight, chain torque, and wound geometry may prove that penetration was possible. Using physics-based modeling, real-world parallels, and math, we dive deep into:

**** Why the “impossible” theory might hold up under pressure
**** How energy transfer and chain tension could make impact lethal
**** Feedback on the Jason Goodman bullet image

This isn’t speculation — it’s analysis.
And once you see the data, you’ll understand why so many “experts” rushed to dismiss it.



Transcript

All right. So, you guys asked for it,
you put it in messages, you put it in
comments, and I did a poll, and you guys
said you wanted to see more from Cali
Cukul, and you also wanted to see his or
her rebuttal to how the pendant could
actually go into the neck based on the
forces and things required to make that
happen. So, let's get into it. I will
warn you up front, this gets pretty
scientific. So, again, here we have
Calakul neck wound severity. As we
discussed earlier, the bullet damaged
the cervical vein, not an artery, based
on the color of the blood. The way it
flowed out instead of squirting and
further supported by only a little bit
of blood left at the scene, specifically
most likely the internal jugular vein or
the JV. There are actually more jugular
veins than that. They're part of an
interconnected system working together
as a whole. So, Calikougal is saying
most likely it was this large internal
jugular vein. a quote, "All IGV injuries
should be repaired, but may be lated if
hemodymodynamically unstable, meaning it
should be attempted to repair a cut
internal jugular vein, but it's also
common to just liate or tie it up if the
repair is impossible, which tells us
about the high tolerance of the body in
regard to this venus network." So, he or
she is basically saying if one of these
veins in here gets hit, most likely they
will seal it off because there's plenty
of other networks to carry the blood
around. A quote from an article on neck
injuries in which there are two cases of
internal jugular vein damage. Both venus
injuries were liated at the follow-up 12
and 21 days. Both patients were doing
well with no complications. The main
risk is the immediate bleeding before
managing to stop it and the risk of the
vein sucking in air. While still
dangerous if it is far less dangerous
than a cut artery. So in other words, if
you were to have a artery get slashed in
your throat, it's much more dangerous
than if you got a vein slashed in your
throat. So, I will say based on those
videos, there does seem to be a lot of
blood that comes out initially that
initial spurt. Charlie's wound was
attended to within seconds by his
trained security staff, which is as
close to immediate hope as it gets.
Charlie's wound was definitely serious,
but it most likely wasn't him being dead
before he touched the ground as some
suggested, at least not because of the
bleeding. So, it could still be because
of, you know, if his vertebrae got hit
directly by the bullet or something
similar. Calakul saying that the
bleeding alone doesn't seem to be the
main cause of death. There was of course
the decorticate posturing which
indicates severe brain damage. It occurs
for a specific combination of some parts
of the brain and motor pathways damaged
and still others functional as I
proposed. That might have happened by
the bullet hitting the occipital bone
the back of the head causing the trauma
underneath it and then traveling along
the spine. that was severe but might not
have been immediately fatal either as
statistically there's a 37% survival
rate connecting to this posturing a
quote following a head injury only 37%
of patients displaying decorticate
posture and 10% of those displaying
disberate posture will survive saying
the overall point is that his condition
was severe but I think there potentially
could have been some chance of him
surviving many seem to say there wasn't
so here's basically saying that based on
their investigation So far it seems like
the injuries that he got even with the
decorticate posture and that kind of
stuff could have theoretically been
survivable about 35% survival rate or
something like that based on literature.
So some people are saying that Charlie's
still alive that this was all staged and
everything else but there is a very very
small chance and again this is just
theories that he could still possibly be
alive
but not well. All right. Now here
Calakuch talks about the potential
bullet that's cut on video. Now, this is
something that if you look on my
channel, there's an interview with Jason
Goodman, and he talks about the
compression and the different things
that can happen that makes it so that
the the way the bullets appear are out
of order based on certain compression
settings and the way that um video
compression and codecs handle
everything. And this is Cali Cuckle kind
of speaking to that a little bit. The
potential bullet on video, Kelly is
talking about these previous images that
Jason Goodman had put together. Mr.
Goodman presented his theory that the
bullet was caught on video. He merged
parts of the images from a 20 fps and a
30 fps versions of the same footage to
get three dots in an almost perfect line
right around the moment Charlie's been
shot. Although it happens to coincide
with one of the very possible
trajectories, I have to say I think it
might not be the bullet that hit
Charlie. One frame before the middle dot
appears. I only have the 20 fps version
with two of the dots. The middle dot
appears. Still no effect on Charlie. You
can see that here.
the dot moves to the upper right. You
see it up here. And this again was in
the last video that I showed. Another
viewer had sent in some video and it had
basically seen the same thing, right?
So, Charlie shirts going up. It appears
that maybe he's been hit here or that's
his mic. I I can't really tell from this
angle. Um, but there's something going
on here, but there's also what appears
to be a projectile or bullet up here.
Kelly and some other people theorize
that the bullet that Jason Goodman is
seeing is not the one that hit him. It's
just one that's flying by, which would
go back to the multiple shooters from
different positions theory. Calakulo
says the dot is quite slow for a bullet.
Let's say the distance from Charlie to
the edge of the tent is 12 ft. That the
right dot is near the edge of the tent
and the left dot is right at his head.
That means distance between every two of
the dots could be 6 ft. And I believe
that Jason Gibbons said about 5t if I
remember correctly. The 20 fps video
means it snapshot every 50 milliseconds.
That means the dot moves 120 ft per
second. Your typical rifle bullet speeds
are 2300 to 3500. Low velocity PCP air
guns seem to start around 300. The
bullet appears to move away from
Charlie, which is what a lot of people
are saying, and that's what Jason
Goodman was kind of um trying to correct
with his merged image and the
compression and codec issues is that it
was going towards Charlie, not away from
him. Mr. Goodman says that this can be
caused by technical reasons of video
mixing up the order of some portions of
the image when encoding suggesting the
dots actually went towards Charlie.
Although I must admit I haven't observed
such phenomenon in compressed videos
with some of their small flying objects
like for instance a bug jumping around
instead of flying in a straight line.
Let's assume it is possible but I would
say uncommon. It would also be good to
see at which point the video of the left
dot appeared rather than a merged still
image. The dots aren't in a straight
line. Mr. Goodman says it was difficult
to align the two versions of the video.
I'm not certain in which ways it would
be difficult to align two versions of
the very same video, even if one video
is cropped in differently. It seems like
a matter of stopping both videos at the
same anchoring moment and then shifting
one video on top of the other until the
scene overlaps perfectly. In no way do I
aim to somehow debunk Mr. Goodman's
theory. I'm glad he's doing his
investigation. However, it seems
uncertain whether the dots are the
bullet. One of the things we could use
is a clear 3D model of the scene and all
possible trajectories of the three dots
could form within it as it is a bit
ambiguous where the dots are actually
within the environment. So like you can
see here the necklace is is already off
and you can see this
object here.
So if the bullet came from the back or
the projectile came from the back, he
wouldn't already be reacting and his
chain wouldn't be flying off. So again,
does this mean that there were possibly
two shooters or more than two shooters
and one missed and you see that bullet
flying past and another one hit him at
the same time? I think it'd be pretty
rare. It'd have to be very synchronized
to be able to hit Charlie Kirk and in
the same frame catch a bullet flying
past. At the speed the bullets move,
that'd be pretty rare. So, this seems to
be a very extremely coordinated
operation if it was more than one person
or maybe a synchronized set of uh
mechanical guns, maybe like in a camera
or even just regular guns that are have
synchronized triggers. I don't know. I
don't I don't know much about that
technology, but as you can see here,
it's very strange that he's already been
hit here. Chain's already flying off,
and there's this little projectile right
here. There was no exit wound behind him
anyway. And if this was coming in from
the back, then that means there's more
than one shot coming from the back.
Again, this is very strange, and these
images seem to cause more questions than
answers. Calakulo says, "Still the
coincidence with the time of the
shooting is striking. I can imagine the
dots being relevant even if it's not the
bullet. perhaps some fragment of
something. The direction of the dot
seemed to match the direction of the
necklace whipped back right after the
dot flew that way. Interestingly enough
though, the middle dot, the first one in
my 20 fps video appears before any
effect was apparent on Charlie. Not even
the bulging shirt in the back. And then
I asked Caliukul, I said Valhalla VFT
and some other people have kind of
reviewed this pendant theory that I've
put out there from Calikuch. You know,
they were kind of saying like a lot of
it possibly made sense. some of the the
dynamics and the ballistics made sense,
but the one part they couldn't get
behind is the fact that the pendant
would actually go up into the neck. So,
basically saying that it wasn't
theoretically possible based on what
they'd seen. Now, these are people that
have seen wartime. These are people that
are very experienced in ballistics and
the dynamics of guns and those type of
things. So, um I can't argue with them
personally because I haven't been in
those situations. But Kakuch basically
is given his or her rendition of how
this could theoretically be possible.
They go on to say the calculation will
definitely involve estimating cavitation
size and duration. I've also seen some
YouTubers misunderstanding and thinking
that the expanding chest was supposed to
whip up the pendant, which is not the
case at all. I don't even think the
chest expanded from any cavitation, just
the neck. Interesting. All right. Now, I
think some of this is going to get into
some nerdy math regarding the pendant's
ability to gain sufficient speed and
penetrate the neck. Mathematically
describing a pendant accelerated by the
expanding circle turns out to be quite
difficult. I tried my best. The main
point is there are two accelerating
factors. One is the expanding circle. It
has increasingly greater effect as a
necklace gets more in contact with the
circle. And then there's the whipping
effect. Due to the law of conservation
of momentum just by the portion of the
free necklace out of contact with the
circle decreasing the speed of the
remaining out of contact portion
increases.
The two effects combine. The whipping
effect multiplies the speed received by
the pendant through the necklace from
the expanding circle. So if you combine
the whipping effect of the chain going
around the body from the initial impact
as well as the expansion from the
cavitation, both of those forces
increase the amount of power that could
project that pendant into the neck. And
that's kind of similar to if you see if
you have a car and it hits something at
60 mph, you have a certain amount of
damage. But if you have two cars coming
towards each other 60 mph, that's 120
mph collision. And then they quote this
resource, the minimum velocity required
to penetrate the skin is about 40 to 50
m/s. All right, so let's check out this
link. So it goes to bhu.ac.in,
which is banaris Hindu University. And
if we look at that link
terminal ballistics
as we go through here talking about
concepts of wound ballistics target site
it's saying the minimum velocity
required to penetrate the skin is about
40 to 50 m/s. This is known as threshold
velocity. Its value for bone penetration
is about 60 m/s.
Wounding effect of a projectile will
depend upon several things. The target
site whether it's the front or the back
of the body. uh the neck. So, one thing
to think about here and consider is that
as the neck is expanding from
cavitation, the walls of the neck are
getting much thinner. So, I would think
this 40 to 50 m/s probably goes down
quite a bit with that kind of pressure,
especially with it going towards it.
Also, the velocity of the projectile,
the constructional features, and then
the range of firing. So, how close or
far that person was. This also depends
on the shape of the object. The cross
was pretty pointy and hung by his top
arm. So, it is bound to travel with the
top point first. So, as you can see
here, we have the chain and then this
would be the cross or the pendant.
They're basically saying here that it's
most likely that this top portion is
what went into the neck in this theory.
And then they show the necklace again.
Yeah, this this top edge here. Now, a
lot of people are pointing out this. It
looks like this is damaged on this side.
It looks like a piece of that cross
maybe broke off and was put back on or
maybe if there's I can't tell if there's
like little diamonds or something here,
but it looks like they're missing from
this other side. So, could it have
possibly been that piece that
penetrated? I don't know. To better see
the acceleration sources, notice how the
necklace wraps increasingly tighter
around the circle with the length of the
free part decreasing.
So, this would be Charlie's neck and
this would be the pendant and necklace
hanging down.
So, as cavitation happens of the neck,
the forces on the outside of the chain
would increase, pulling this closer and
faster into the tissue. Here's the
calculation for concrete numbers for a
smaller and faster cavitation and neck
and necklace links close to Charlie's.
They're saying if anyone sees errors or
is able to improve the formulas better,
then let them know. There are vastly
better mathematicians out there than I
am, that's for sure. And then they kind
of walk us through it. The neck expands.
Dependent P moves up. So here's the
neck. Neck is expanding. The pendant P
starts moving towards the body. The
parts of the necklace close to the neck
wrap around the neck. So these parts
here, that' be L2s, are going to get
closer and closer to the neck as the
neck expands out. So I won't get super
deep into the math here, but you can see
it. You can screenshot it and test it
out if you need to, but basically
they're estimating that it was about two
2 1/2 milliseconds duration for the
expansion phase. That's for the
cavitation of the neck. They estimate 57
cm necklace length and then 40 cm neck
circumference. So that would leave 12.7
cm neck diameter. So distance traveled
along about 8 cm velocity 32 m/s
strengthened by the whipping effect
given by the ratio of the L2 before and
after cavitation. In other words, how
much is it shortened within that period
about 59 m/s. Now he was saying earlier
he or she was saying earlier that it
would take 40 to 50 m/s to pierce human
flesh or to pierce the neck based on the
estimation of the distance traveled and
the cavitation it happening within 2 and
12 milliseconds and then the whipping
effect that adds to that from the chain
would make it 59 m/s would make it 59
m/s in their estimation. Then there was
a comment from you guys. Why doesn't it
happen all the time to people who were
shot in the neck while wearing a
necklace with a pendant? And Kakuko
says, I think it might be because rarely
the bullet travels vertically, making
the neck cavitation in the horizontal
plane to the side so efficient and
prominent. So in other words, in a lot
of cases, the bullet's going straight in
and cavitation goes perpendicular. So if
the bullet goes in here, the expansion
is going to be up and down, right? So
it's going to go up into the brain and
down into the body. In this case, in
this theory from Calakul and also Jason
Goodman, if there was a shot from the
back is that the bullet hit the
occipital lobe and went down the spine
and that vertical downward motion would
cause horizontal expansion of the neck.
So basically what they're saying is it's
rare for a bullet to go down the body as
opposed to into the body. All right,
then we have some more. Kylukul says the
whipping effect because people are going
to say, "Well, why would the chain be
whipping around?" A whip is thick at the
handle and gets thinner throughout its
length. You swing the grip, slow
movement of a heavy mass, and as that
energy gets passed over to lighter and
lighter parts of the whip, it has to
move faster and faster for the momentum
to stay the same. Momentum equals weight
times velocity. So, thanks to that, the
speed at the end of a whip can reach up
to twice the speed of sound. And then
Cali Cougall comes back. I apologize. I
found some numerical errors in my
original calculation. And then Cali
Cougle comes back. Same information
expanding circle whipping effect, but
they're saying using the calculations
below for I believe realistic parameters
neck size cavitation and duration
necklace length. I've come to the
possible final velocity of the pendant
of 45 m/s which equals 148 ft per
second. Remember it takes 40 to 50 m/s
to break the skin. So, I would say it's
in the ballpark of being possible, and
it might not be correct to discard it as
absolutely impossible. The above range
is certainly approximate, and I wouldn't
say anything just under 40 m/s cannot
pierce the skin anymore. The
calculations and chosen parameters might
of course be a little bit different than
reality, affecting the results in both
directions, lowering or increasing the
velocity. For instance, if the necklace
was slightly longer, it would decrease
the velocity. If it was slightly
shorter, it would increase it.
Shortening the necklace would increase
the speed quite rapidly. So, here's the
new math. Go ahead and screenshot this
and test it out.
Same here. Screenshot that. Test it out.
And the final test that out. So, they
landed on distance traveled of about
6.85 cm and a velocity of about 27.4
m/s. That is from the cavitation.
And then that's strengthened by the
whipping effect given by the ratio after
cavitation. How much the chain shortened
during that period. And that came to
about 45 meters per second, which is
within the 40 to 50 that is said that is
needed to pierce flesh. All right, so
there you go. For everyone that wanted
to see Kakugo's response to if it could
actually pierce the skin or not, um,
another possibility is maybe it didn't
actually fully penetrate. It just had to
nick it, right? All it has to do is is
cut open the surface of that vein and
it's going to burst open with all the
pressure. So, let me know your thoughts.
Is this still plausible? I know some of
you were saying that everything else
about the theory kind of combined with
the Jason Goodman shot from the back
made sense to you. Does this make even
more sense based on some of this math
and other things that 40 to 50 meters
per second is what it takes to kind of
break open the skin or to pierce the
skin? And Calukul estimates it around 45
or so meters/s. And as always, don't
forget to like, subscribe, and share
this around. And make sure you're
getting some fresh air. Don't just sit
and watch Charlie Kirk videos all day.
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This Charlie Kirk Video Is Going Viral Right Now -- Here’s Why!
The Jimmy Dore Show
Nov 4, 2025 The Jimmy Dore Show PODCAST

A viral video has been making the rounds featuring Charlie Kirk questioning Israel’s delayed response to the October 7th Hamas attacks, suggesting it raises serious questions about government accountability and U.S. funding to Israel.

Jimmy explores claims that the TPUSA founder faced backlash for his comments, including accusations of antisemitism, while emphasizing the importance of continuing to question official narratives.

The segment critiques both government and media institutions for suppressing inquiry and punishing dissent, using examples from the COVID era to underscore a pattern of censorship and manipulation. Jimmy closes by urging viewers to “keep asking questions” as a core principle of freedom and skepticism toward authority.



Transcript

You better keep asking questions because
it's the only thing that keeps us free.
Thank you so much.
You better keep asking questions because
it's the only thing that keeps us free.
Now, if you if you talk to Mikey McCoy's
pastor father, he'll tell you to shut
up.
Stop asking questions. What are you
doing asking questions? Just accept what
Cash Mattel tells you.
So Ian Carroll, so he asked this, "Why
is this clip going viral?" But it's a
clip of Charlie Kirk and I guess it's
getting a lot of play all of a sudden
today
because Ian Carol is an anti-Semitic. Is
that why Jimmy?
Probably. Let's listen to what this clip
is.
I'm going to continue to ask the
question. A 20our response in a country
the size of New Jersey. That that begs a
big explanation. And more importantly,
America is significantly underwriting
the Israeli government $4 billion a
year. We as American taxpayers.
So what he's saying is a 20hour
response time on October 7th. That's
what he's talking about on a on a
country the size of New Jersey. What's
that Kurt?
Just under a full day.
Yeah. Just under a full day.
So that's his question.
I'm going to continue to ask the
question. A 20our response in a country
the size of New Jersey. that that begs a
big explanation. And
and so why does that beg a big
explanation? Because that that
implicates Benjamin Netanyahu and the
Israeli government being in on as what
we all said. They funded Hamas. They
gave a standown order. They they knew
this attack was coming for over a year.
As the New York Times revealed, they had
the plans.
So what they did was they kind of staged
this so they could use this as almost
like a false flag so they could then go
wipe out Gaza and take over Gaza and the
West Bank. So what he's saying is it
took them 20 hours to respond which
means they were in on this that this was
a plan.
This wasn't an accident that they didn't
know Hamas was going to attack them.
They knew it. They funded it. They gave
a standown order and didn't respond for
20 hours.
Did Jimmy, did America have some deal
with Israel of like a throw mama from
the train situation like you do 911 for
us and we'll help you at your killing
your own people?
Maybe. Here we go.
More importantly, America is
significantly underwriting the Israeli
government. $4 billion a year. We as
American taxpayers deserve answers to
this. We deserve answers. Also, if we're
going to get into a regional or world
war based on an intel failure. So, um I
mean, we pay for this, what are we
buying, right? I got smeared as a Jew
hater, an anti-semite, and conspiracy
theorist cuz I said exactly what I just
said. And I refused to back down despite
all the smears thrown at me because I
learned during COVID. I learned when
they told us that it came from a bat in
the Himalayas. I learned when they told
us the vaccine was safe and effective. I
learned when they told us that
Ivormectum was horsepaced that you
better keep asking questions because
it's the only thing that keeps us free.
Thank you so much.
You better keep asking questions cuz
it's the only thing that keeps us free.
Now, if you if you talk to Mikey McCoy's
pastor father, he'll tell you to shut
up.
Stop asking questions. What are you
doing asking questions? Just accept what
Cash Patel tells you.
Just accept what the government says.
What's wrong with you? You're a bad
person. The Lord wants you to shut up.
The Lord wants you to shut up.
Yes, Lord.
He He pissed off so many people in that
one statement right there that they got
to be taking bakery numbers to get to
get up on the roof, if you know what I'm
saying.
Why would the deep state consider him a
threat just because he threatened every
single itemized thing that they are
intending to do
right
here? Here he is here. Jewish donors
play into all the stereotypes. I cannot
and will not be bullied like this,
leaving me no choice but to leave the
pro-Israel cause. He was dead days after
he said that.
Let that be a warning to the rest of
you.
And we all have friends that will that
will lose one more narrative before they
just sit in a straight jacket and rock.
You know that, right?
This unfortunately
is that shattered narrative. Look at it
this way. Remember when you were young
and you always dreamt of being a rocker?
Well, here you are. Put on a straight
jacket, start rocking. Remember when he
said this? Remember when Charlie Kirk
said this?
Lightly. Okay.
I got to be careful the way I say this
to they're going to try to ethnically
cleanse Gaza. Yep.
I mean that that's and I don't use that
term lightly. Okay. Before Charlie Kirk
was killed, he said Charlie Kirk fears
that Israel will kill him if he
continues ahead providing space for
Israel critics.
Charlie kind of starting to question the
amount of influence that Israel has in
US not only domestic politics but
foreign politics as well. I just don't
think we should go to war with Iran. Is
a nuclear weapon Iran a threat to
America? Probably could be. It's a
threat to Israel, but is it a threat to
America? I mean, India has nuclear
weapons. Pakistan has nuclear weapons.
But he was one of the only people to go
to the Oval Office and say, "Sir, I
totally understand, but a war with Iran
could really hurt our country." He took
massive, massive abuse from his own
donors. And they expressed it to him in
a very intense way. I know because he
showed me. He's talking about October
7th possibly being an inside job. I
still have the same gut instinct that I
did initially. I find this very hard to
believe. I've been to that Gaza border.
He starts to question whether Jeffrey
Epstein was an Israeli Mossad agent.
Epstein with his little friend Galain
and Galain's father, Robert Maxwell, who
was obviously a spy of the Israeli
intelligence agencies. The evidence that
shows that Epstein was a creation of
either MSAD, Israeli intelligence,
and it all blew out into the open at
TPUSA's July Youth Summit in
Tallahassee. Tucker gave the speech,
right?
Tucker
[Applause]
is Jeffrey Epste was working on behalf
of intel services. It's extremely
obvious to anyone who watches that this
guy had direct connections to a foreign
government. Now, no one's allowed to say
that that foreign government is Israel
because we have been somehow cowed.
But it wasn't just Tucker. Megan Kelly
had started questioning Israel and
Msad given his connection to Gain
Maxwell. comic Dave Smith, who like
myself is a Jewish anti-ionist.
There's no reason why we even have to be
enemies with Iran. This is Israel's
problem. We don't need to be involved in
this. Sorry, we got our own issues here.
The crowd was cheering in this cathartic
way. Then Tucker comes out, says, "You
should have your citizenship yanked if
you fight for a foreign army."
How can somebody pledge allegiance to
two countries at the same time?
Obviously, that's absurd. And I know
you're speaking about Israel. think
anybody by the way who serves in a
foreign military should lose his
citizenship immediately. There are a lot
of Americans who've served in the IDF
they should lose their citizenship.
After that he started getting publicly
attacked. Ben Shapiro and Mark Levvin,
the two biggest Zionist enforcers in the
media. Laura Loomer, we all know who she
is. She publicly attacked Charlie Kirk
and said he basically had to step down.
Honestly, the way you are treating me is
so repulsive. I have text messages Megan
calling me an anti-semite. There's
another article out in the Times of
Israel today. I could read it on air. I
was just reading before I got on.
Charlie, what are you doing? Like, why
are you What am I doing? I'm sorry.
Like, let's just take a step back here.
Like, I'm an American citizen.
Wow. Megan forgot all about that
conversation, didn't she?
Apparently, she did. Apparently, Megan
Kelly forgot all about that. She got her
mind right. So, here's here's one more
video of Charlie Kirk
talking about Israel. When a lawmaker
like Ted Cruz uses the Bible to justify
aid to Israel, doesn't even know the
verse, do you guys think that's like not
the best way to approach this? Raise
your hand. Okay.
I think Ted Cruz is Genesis 12:3. I
think a lot of people see that as
offputting when you look at the New
Testament.
Why?
Because I think a lot of people they
they look especially at the writings of
Paul where he talks about how that the
new flesh is not the same as the people
in the Old Covenant. The new flesh is
everybody is everyone's included.
Talking about Romans 9. Yes.
Yeah.
Are you Catholic?
Converted Catholic from Judais.
This is my next
Oh, from Judaism.
Yes.
Oh, wow. So, so you're Jew, you're
ethnically Jewish.
Ethnically Jewish. Yes.
And you have concerns about Apac?
Yes, I do.
I'm told that by some people
that if I criticize Apac, I'm
anti-Semitic.
I think it's ridiculous. Yeah. I I feel
like it's great to have a concern for
your country. Do you think that the that
Apac represents that it represents a
kind of cutting in line of
prioritization away from the American
people?
Would you guys say that's a fair
summary?
Meaning that like, okay, we vote, we're
citizens, but a separate group gets
higher priority because of whatever
reasons. You you you look like you want
to
chime in. that the entirety of the idea
of a pack is to represent a group. But
the fact that we're having we're
allowing a group that doesn't even
represent American interests to
influence the people who are supposed to
be representing us, I have a huge
problem with. And that's why I've said
this before and a lot of people don't
like when I say it. I actually think
there's probably like 20 representatives
between Senate and House who I think are
actually fully doing the work of the
American people and don't have the
interests of some group pulling their
sway. But when you hear that lots of
other countries also are lobbying. Um do
you think I mean that you probably don't
know the names of those countries but
it's happening. Does that upset you
equally or is Apac just get all the the
press because it's so top of mind if
those other ones are doing the same
thing? Of course. I do not think that
other countries should be telling us how
to spend, you know, the the that telling
our representatives and people who are
here to represent all of us that they
should be focusing outside of the United
States,
America first. Thank you.
So, I think uh I think we know why uh
Ian why this clip is going viral.
I think we know
and
going to continue to ask the question a
20our response in a country the size of
New Jersey that that begs a big
explanation and more importantly America
is significantly underwriting the
Israeli government $4 billion a year. We
as American taxpayers deserve answers to
this. We deserve answers also if we're
going to get into a regional or world
war based on an intel failure. So, um, I
mean, we pay for this. What are we
buying? Right? I got smeared as a Jew
hater, an anti-semite, and conspiracy
theorist cuz I said exactly what I just
said. And I refused to back down despite
all the smears thrown at me because I
learned during COVID. I learned when
they told us that it came from a bat in
the Himalayas. I learned when they told
us the vaccine was safe and effective. I
learned when they told us that
Ivormechum was horse-paced that you
better keep asking questions because
it's the only thing that keeps us free.
So, don't stop asking questions about
who actually killed Charlie Kirk because
the story we're being told is an obvious
lie.
And you really have to bend yourself
into a pretzel to believe all the stupid
lies that they've made up about this. I
mean, not only from the gun that was
used, the bullet that didn't go through
his neck, uh, from the way everybody
acted shady, all the his his security
people acted shady, uh, to the fact that
they took him to a hospital that wasn't
the closest to the fact that, uh, all
those Google searches to the fact that
uh, they say he assembled the gun,
reassem disassembled it, reassembled it,
assembled it, jumped off a building, put
it in his pants, put it all that stuff.
There's so Oh, he then he texted
perfectly. He texted perfectly uh to his
girlfriend uh what he just did. He he he
admitted everything he did and the FBI
finally got that. So, it's you have to
really bend yourself in a pretzel to
believe the FBI's narrative. It's not
true. If if there's one thing I'm sure
of, it's that what the FBI said happened
to Charlie Kirk is a lie. If there's one
thing I'm sure of, that's it. And I bend
myself into a star of David.
There's I mean how do you George Zin as
immediately after the shot rings out he
drops his pants and said I did it.
So that's called being an accessory to a
murder because he was there to distract
everybody from what actually happened.
Anyway, that's a great uh it's a great
clip. Everybody uh should enjoy that
clip. And if you'd like to hear my jokes
about Cash Patel's handling of the
Charlie Kirk assassination, come see me
the day after Thanksgiving, that's a
Friday, November 28th in Burbank,
California at Flappers Comedy Club,
December 6th in Pottstown, Pennsylvania,
and January 11th in Wik Ki, Hawaii at
the Blue Note. It's a beautiful theater.
Come see me there. Go to jimmy.com for a
link for tickets. Come see us in
Australia. Second shows added in
Melbourne, Sydney, and Brisbane. We'll
see you in Burbank, California the day
after Thanksgiving. It's a Friday. And
then Pottstown, Pennsylvania, December
6th. Plus, January 11th, we're going to
be in YK at the Blue No. Tickets not
available yet for them, but go to jimmy
door.com for a link for all the other
tickets.
Hey, check out this story we covered
about Kenya's monumental defeat against
Bill Gates. Click the video on the
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ISRAEL’S LOBBY IN PANIC — Kirk’s Letter LEAKS!
Max Blumenthal
Mila
Nov 11, 2025



Transcript

Charlie Kirk never received any
request from the Israeli government to
accept $150 million. Like no one said
that. The initial story was Netanyahu
was wrangling some of his friendly
billionaires and millionaires in the US
into a kind of consortium
to get Charlie Kirk back on track and to
fund him to the hilt in exchange for
just shutting down all of the Israel
criticism at TPUSA debates that exploded
into the open at their summit in July.
that seems to be borne out by reality
and by what we saw
um by this this is the follow-up story I
did exposing the secret influencer
summit with Bill Aman
and the first of all Netanyahu wanted to
claim Charlie Kirk's legacy because he's
someone that was groomed by the Israel
lobby the Israel lobby and the these um
Zionist billionaires had been sponsoring
him since he was a teenager major and he
was one of their most important gentile
assets. He became even more important
after Trump was reelected. He was
probably on his way to a Senate seat or
possibly even the presidency and he
became more important after his death as
a kind of martyr of the MAGA movement.
You know, he was supposedly cut down for
believing in free debate. And they need
that base, the conservative grassroots
on their side because they recruit from
them to,
[Music]
you know, if they join the military or
if they become important propagandists
or politicians, they need them to drum
up support for the next Israeli war,
which requires white Christian men to
die for the selfproclaimed
Jewish date. So that's why Charlie Kirk
was so important. And then, you know,
the truth comes out that Charlie Kirk
didn't like Netanyahu, considered him a
bully and a manipulator, and that uh
there he didn't accept Netanyahu's offer
for a trip to Israel, and that he was
uncomfortable being a gentile
subcontractor just pumping out Israeli
propaganda, including in support of a
looming war on Iran, which he would
eventually lobby against inside the
White House. something I reported
and Netanyahu freaks out.

Then you know
you have this whole parallel development
which I mean I said in my first report
there is no evidence of an Israeli role
in Charlie Kirk's assassination. I don't
know who said that I said that there was
one but other people decided to to push
that narrative. And I mean, I can
understand why they would suspect that
given Israel's
obsession with assassinating
every potential enemy or enemy,
assassinating, attempting to assassinate
the entire Hamas negotiating team inside
a US ally. But I said there's no
evidence, but it's, you know, millions
of impressions were created off of posts
alleging that Charlie Kirk had been
killed by Israel. So Netanyahu comes out
and actually denies it. I mean, when
have you ever seen a foreign leader deny
killing an American public figure? And
he did it twice. It was wild. Ben
Shapiro even came out and denied an
Israeli role. They were afraid. They
were shaken. And then in my third piece,
I reported that Charlie Kirk lost his
one of his top donors of all time,
Robert Schillman, who is an ultra-zionist
fanatic and an anti-Islam funer who had
sponsored also Laura Loomer. Laura
Loomer was attacking Charlie Kirk in
June. I think she was uncomfortable by
this, made uncomfortable by this
revelation. She was like attacking me in
a very sloppy way, characteristically
sloppy way on Twitter. And I brought up
I asked her, you know, do you know about
Robert Schillman defunding Charlie Kirk?
Right before I was going to publish the
story and you could tell she got or
clempted, she got really uncomfortable.

So
then
after Netanyahu has to deny killing him
and the whole narrative of Charlie Kirk
being Netanyahu's boy is shattered and
Bill Ackman is freaking out as well
because Charlie Kirk was screamed at by
one of the participants in his secret
influencer summit which no one was
supposed to know about by the way. Bill
Ackman said well we just had a meal last
summer. Like no it was a little bit more
than that.
Their whole narrative is collapsing and
then this letter comes out, a digitally
reproduced letter. We had asked for it
to come out. Like I had called for
Netanyahu to release this letter.
Candace Owens had called for Netanyahu
to release this letter because Netanyahu
referenced it in one of his video
eulogies to Charlie Kirk, but we didn't
see the contents.
And Bill Aman is spinning the contents
of it as proof that Charlie Kirk was a
ride-or die Israel guy to the end. As
are other forces which claim to be
anti-Israel but seem to be insidiously
advancing the Israeli narrative about
Charlie Kirk. And if you look at the
contents of the letter, it's Charlie
Kirk complaining and whining about
having to be this Israeli subcontractor
and telling Netanyahu, "You need to
produce your own propaganda and you
know, we'll help, but we don't want to
be the main messengers and it's making
us look stupid because we're supposed to
be America first." He also said, "We
don't I don't support a war on Iran and
you need to do that yourself.
You need to basically take more
responsibility for Israel's messaging
and stop basically paying all of these
conservative incorporated influencers to
do it for you. You're not allowed to do
that. The letter actually shows that
Charlie Kirk had crossed some red lines
already, even as he espouses his belief
in the so-called Judeo-Christian
Alliance. And so anyone who's trying to
spin that letter is evidence of his
uh just absolute pro Netanyahu
convictions
is deliberately papering over
the real subtext which is that he was
setting the stage for a breakup and that
the friction between himself and
Netanyahu's mafia that extends into the
US was going to intensify after that
letter which was supposedly authored in
May because it was in June that Charlie
Kirk was lobbying against a war on Iran.
And that's when he he began uh falling
under attack from Laura Loomer in June.

Then July he hosts a student action
summit in Florida where Tucker Carlson
calls Bill Ackman a fraud and a con man
and Jeffrey Epstein a Mossad agent. Dave
Smith debates the Gaza genocide. Charlie
Kirk falls under even more intense
attack. This time from two of
Netanyahu's top cutouts in the media,
Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro.

Then the
influencer summit early August, the day
after Charlie Kirk goes on Megan Kelly's
show and complains that he has less
latitude to criticize Israel than an
Israeli does and complains about
stakeholders and funders referring to
people like ostensibly Bob Schillman.
And then he's a month later he's dead.

So we obviously don't know where this
would go. But I don't think they can put
the genie back in the bottle here. like
everybody knows that there was a
conflict and that's why
uh Netanyahu's Israel's lobbyists in the
US and the Israeli foreign minister is
put committing so much money into
basically buying supposedly anti-woke
influencers and buying social media
impressions on the right. It's because
it I mean Charlie Kirk was emblematic of
a larger trend of the Israeli PR
collapse within the conservative
grassroots.

Yeah. And I I think um I think that'd be
concerning enough everything that you
just said and there's a lot more. I mean
I'm not going to ask you to sit here for
5 hours and explain all the minutia of
insanity that was going on behind the
scenes but for months on end.
you know, if that wasn't crazy enough
and then you also have the obvious
lunacy of um you know, the round that
they claim uh killed Charlie Kirk and
lot of questions about coverups at the
FBI. Candace Owens has been digging into
a lot of these seemingly glaringly
obvious questions. Um I I want to ask
you one question though that I haven't
seen anyone really address in a lot of
detail. Um maybe you don't have an
answer, but there was a FBI uh statement
that in the early hours of the
assassination
that u foreign intelligence assisted in
the manhunt investigation. Uh do you
have any insight into what foreign
intelligence could have been assisting
and and how they may have assisted in
the investigation?

No, I tried to track that down,
and I just couldn't find anything on
that. So, I don't know what was the
source on that.

It was on one of those
uh mainstream CBS or something. It was
uh not Kosh Patel, but I think it was
like a deputy director or something. Um
I initially heard it and then I fact
checked it, double checked it later and
turned out to be truthful, but I just
thought that was weird always.

Um I wonder I mean I remember the the
Utah governor who's actually kind of was
like at odds with Charlie Kirk's faction
of the GOP said we were hoping it was a
foreigner who killed him but
unfortunately it was one of our own and
uh Benjamin Netanyahu himself blamed
Islam and the radical left. So they had
already kind of set their narrative.
They I mean they what they were wishing
for was some Kufu clad Palestinian
radical doing it which happens to be by
the way the identity of the pathy in the
1998
Brian Dealma film Snake Eye who kills a
uh I think defense secretary named
Charlie Kirkland
in a sort of uh conspiracy
that was hatched by someone deep within
the US military who wanted to cover up
corrupt defense contracts. It's actually
a really good film
and some potential predictive
programming. But I mean they wanted to
blame the Left, and enact this agenda
that already seems to have been -- it was
like the Patriot Act which was
already prepared before 9/11 through
various channels like the Louis Freeh
commission -- and they had this whole
agenda prepared to basically crack down
on domestic dissent, implement more
repression.

And we still don't have the evidence that
the public would need to convict Tyler
Robinson in their minds.

And we've learned that there is enormous
amounts of discovery in this case. And
the judge has put the discovery under
lock and key. The media is not allowed
to access all the discovery.

The thing that really set me off was the
text messages supposedly between Tyler
Robinson and the furry roommate. Where
is he by the way? or they them, where
are they? Um, we're not hearing much
from them.

The text messages were like
fabricated. Tyler now allegedly, according to
a source close to him, claims that they were fabricated.

Yeah. And you can just read them. The
language is like a 65-year-old law
enforcement officer. I deposited the
gun at the vehicle, at the
drop point, my love. There's no timestamps on
them. And I think
even the New York Times acknowledged
they were forensically reproduced.

Remember when Kash Patel said, "We had a
manifesto, but it got lost and so we
forensically reproduced it." I mean, I
think this may have been the manifesto,
and everything is conveniently confessed
in this exchange. Then when CNN reported
it, they reproduced it through a
graphic that made it look like you were
actually viewing the physical iPhone
screen, but without timestamps. So
CNN altered it to make it more
believable. So you don't have to go that far down the
rabbit hole to start asking questions.

But I wasn't able to really
pursue the thread of foreign
intelligence assisting the
investigation. But if we found out somehow that Israeli
intelligence had assisted, then, you
know, that would also be a red flag,
because we can see what the
Mossad, or other wing of Israeli
intelligence did in Australia, where
there was a string of very mysterious
arsons outside synagogues carried out by non-ideological criminal
elements, and local miscreants, who
were recruited online, and paid
cryptocurrency, with instructions to
carry out various acts of sabotage
outside Jewish targets. Only one nation
benefits from that.

And then Iran was
ultimately blamed, with an assist from Israeli
intelligence to AIO, the Australian
security organization. So Israel
basically said "Iran did it. Look at Iran."
Do you remember all those
phone calls that were sent into Jewish
community centers at the beginning of
Trump's first term that caused mass panic,
and all this anti-semitism
hysteria was directed at Trump.

There was also at
the same time a wave of bomb threats and
phone calls to Jewish community centers
in Australia, and the Australian security
services found that they were coming
from Israel, and it turned out it was an
Israeli teenager making most of these
calls, and his identity was hidden for
quite a while. But now we know who
he is. And only one nation benefits
from that.

Again, I have no idea
about foreign intelligence assisting
Charlie Kirk, but anyone who's paying
close attention has serious skepticism
about the official story right now.

Well, yeah, I think anyone except for
the people being paid minimum 7K per
post on Twitter or Instagram now.
Anytime I post on Tik Tok, I can't even
use Tik Tok anymore because every single
video just gets flagged and taken down.
I'm sure they'll ban it soon. This
is crazy. It's like Twitter really is
our only last bastion of somewhat free
speech, and it seems like it's a total
takeover.

Yeah. And you were kicked off YouTube as
well, right?

Oh, yeah. Of course.

Yeah, it's a takeover.

By the way, uh, when I debated Deborah
Leah Schwarzman, she lashed out
at Candace Owens in the middle of the
interview for complicating the Trump
administration's ability to blame the
left, and ram through all of its
repressive legislation.
And she also called for me to be jailed
for attending an on-the-record press event
with the elected Iranian president,
which was interesting.
And I would assume she's part of this
coterie of influencers that's been
recruited by Israel, because she was in
that meeting with Netanyahu where he
openly called for war on the American
public, psychological war, a media
war, an information war in which
billionaires
that he hand selects, or who he's friends
with, or friendly with -- I guess he
doesn't really have any actual friends --
take over major media assets on
behalf of Israel, and shut down criticism
of Israel, and prevent American youth
from seeing photos of all the children
that Israel shreds every day in Gaza.
And that's happening with Tik Tok.

We have two strikes on Tik Tok at the
Greyzone already. Like, they've already
implanted various pro-Israel sensors
there. The strikes are for like the most
benign activity. I don't even
know what they're for. We have no hope
on Tik Tok.

Mhm.

But the new CEO at Tik Tok is
Safra Katz, someone who's exposed in
the Honda leaks. That's the
name of a apparently Iranian hacker
collective that hacked Ehud Barack's
emails, the former Israeli prime
minister and defense minister, showing
him communicating with Safra Katz about
defending Israel, supporting Israeli
objectives in the US going back to
2015. I think she's a veteran of
Israel's unit 8200. I might need to
double check that. Then the purchase
is presided over by Oracle. They're
providing the infrastructure, this CIA
data contractor run by Larry Ellison who
is a friend of Netanyahu, has hosted
Netanyahu on his private island in
Hawaii, donated to the friends of the IDF.
His son David Ellison is
a Zionist fanatic. He's taken over
Paramount Pictures, which is putting out
an October 7th propaganda documentary in
a few days, and installing Bari Weiss,
the voice of the Zionist 1%, as editor of
CBS News, which is a Paramount property.
And I think they're going
to make a bid on CNN.

And we've always
seen all of these
legacy media, corporate media assets, as
pro-Israel propaganda mechanisms. But
now they can't allow for any criticism
at all, any debate, because the
press, like the news departments, every
legacy media outlet, the news
departments can no longer stomach
Israeli propaganda,
and especially the younger
people working in these news
departments.

And so they need to
actually like crush the news departments,
and start to recruit from within the
conservative incorporated world that has been
heavily cultivated by Israel and its
cutouts in the US, to make sure that
nothing gets through.

And what's the ultimate effect of this going
to be? We're going to be censored.
We're going to be suppressed
algorithmically,
but we're not going to be silenced. And
I think there will be a mass exodus from
Twitter. We've already seen corporate
media just be completely tuned out by an
entire generation. There's nothing they
can do to win back that trust. What
they're going to do is eliminate the
trust altogether. And they'll find us
somewhere. We just have to maintain some
presence.

Maybe they'll find a place at
CBS for Brian Hollyhand. I think
he's he's looking for a job. He needs to
get his own private jet. He can't be
flying around on his dad's. It's not a
good look.

It'll be like Yeah, him and Ben Shapiro,
and what's that guy? Matt Walsh. It'll
be like The View.

It'd make for great content to be
honest. It'd be plenty of content for
all of us to make fun of.

I mean, it's probably
inappropriate to say it, but that's kind
of like what Charlie Kirk was up until
last summer for all of us. It was like,
this is the voice of Conservative
Incorporated. And I think he was
embarrassed by that.

Yes. And that was the first thing that
stuck out to everyone is like Netanyahu
went out and tweeted, "I invited Charlie
to Israel. Now that trip's never going
to happen." That was the second tweet he
put out after the assassination.
And everyone was just kind of like, I
don't think Charlie would have accepted
that. I don't think he was that stupid,
cuz that'd be a career killer for him to
go to Israel right now. And then it
turns out that that didn't happen. And
he literally went to Trump's office at
the most critical point in Netanyahu's
tenure, of his entire life, when you're
about to get the US into this war. And
he's like, "Don't do it." You know, that takes serious balls.

And for
anyone to come out who claims to be
anti-Israel and say, "Uh, oh, well,
Charlie wasn't really anti-Israel at the
end," It's like, I'm sorry. Do you have
the influence to go walk into the Oval
Office and tell the President to
not go to war in Iran? It's crazy. It's crazy.

Which speaking of,
um, I think we're about to get a second
war on Iran. I think most people see
that's cooking. You've got the THAAD
systems being expanded by the US and
Israel, or on US bases somewhere
nearby, something like that. You've got
some shipments of weaponry. You
got a lot of stuff going on. They're
coming out and saying it.

You just met with the president of Iran,
which according to Deborah Leah means
that The gray zone is entirely
funded by the Iranian government, I
guess. So
do you think that Donald Trump is cocked
enough, or blackmailed enough, to the
point where that he'll be forced into
this again? Because everyone knows that
IDF said that on the fourth day of the
war they were on the outs, and the only
reason why they stayed in and continued
is because they got the US in. So I
don't see how this could continue
without the US joining.

That's right.
And yeah, my analysis will have that
much more impact because as Deborah Leah
said, I'm so brilliant that I figured
out how to work around the strangulation
US sanctions regime to
build this incredibly elaborate
background behind me with Iranian oil
money.

Yeah. They're like, "Oh, Max
Blumenthal interviewed a head of state,"
which is the equivalent of Deborah Leah
meeting with Netanyahu as his
subservient slave who's getting paid, as
crazy.

Yeah. I mean, she was the one who
teed up Netanyahu so that he could call
for war on the American public, an
information war. It was at a
press event filled with
were 25 people, journalists, think-
tankers, the
American conservative I would say would
be the the right, and very credible
people.
And Pezeskhian wanted to send the message
that war is coming, and that negotiations
with the US have proven fruitless.

And so the reason to speak to us was to
communicate more directly with the
American people and with the anti-war
movement in general, rather than speaking
to the mainstream press whose
audience is, you know, the White House,
and what's the point of speaking to the
Trump administration?

He said Steve Witkoff deceived them again and again,
and would show up at meetings with all this positive
rhetoric about possibly a new JCPOA, and
Iran would display all the
flexibility they could about enrichment
levels, and then he'd go back to
Washington, and read off the Israeli
script, and threaten Iran, and issue
demands.

And this all led up to the
unprovoked Israeli assault in June, and
the 12-day war, where they basically
exploited the negotiations to lull Iran
into a false sense of security. Pezeskian
said they're going to come again, and that
for sure they will attack again.
And he forecasted his own potential
assassination, or an attempt on his life,
and said Iran is prepared for all
contingencies. They're
already five or six steps ahead of every
move Israel could make.

I think Iran's military doctrine proved
itself after Israel
delivered a pretty punishing opening
blow, exploiting
the Mossad cells that it had
established inside Iran, as well as the
sense that the Iranian
leadership were heading into
another round of talks with the US
that Saturday.

So why would Israel do
this? And you know, they did it, but the
the element of surprise is gone now. The
Mossad cells have been depleted. I don't
know how heavily penetrated Iran is, but
they've been dismantling Mossad cells.
They've been executing Mossad agents.
They've been doing
massive deportations of Afghan migrants
who they believe are sort of a base for
Mossad recruitment.
And so it's just going to be a more
direct, violent, longer conflict in which, as
we've seen, Israel will depend heavily if
and not entirely on the United States.
I would say entirely to extricate
itself from this conflict.

But that's
the point. The point is to keep the US
involved, to keep the US from diverting
its attention to Ukraine, and then to the
Pacific Rim, and the coming war with
China. And Israel wants deeper,
more intense US involvement in this war.
You know, standoff combat
between the navy and Iran. Even
boots on the ground if they can get it.
They would be more than happy to see
boots on the ground, and US troops
fighting the popular mobilization forces
in Iraq, who Netanyahu explicitly
threatened in his UN General Assembly
speech. They would be happy to see this
war expand back into Iraq where there
are US military base, and the popular
mobilization forces have played a
stabilizing role by merging with the
Iraqi military which has prevented
operations on US military bases.
Netanyahu would be more than happy to
see operations against US military bases
in Iraq. And that's where I think this
is going.

So, we're seeing all of this
increased activity around Aludu air base,
and US tankers refueling so many jets,
like as many jets as they can halfway on
their journey to the region.
I don't know. Did a US aircraft carrier
pass through the straight of Gibralar?
So there's
been like a naval deployment.

So it all
seems to be moving
towards an imminent attack on Iran. And
you know, talking to friends in Iran,
they believe that one is coming
imminently.

Well, I pray that it goes horribly for
Israel and the US. I say that from the
bottom of my heart. And we all know, I
think you're right about Iraq too,
because they're coming under a lot of
pressure, and the PMF committed the
cardinal sin, and defeated ISIS, same as
you know Assad.

So this is really shaping up. But
thankfully we have
journalists like you who are exposing
the truth. And I can't say I'm a
journalist really because I just jump
the gun and immediately say that Israel
is guilty of these things. You actually
require evidence to back up your claims.
You're not crazy like me. So a big salute to you, and thank you
for the work that you're doing. And
you've really gotten under their
fingernails, under their
thumbs. Be very safe. Be very careful.
You know, if Charlie Kirk was a threat,
which I think he was, obviously, be very
careful. You're in the
belly of the beast.

So, with that, I
say thank you everyone. Check out the
Grey Zone, on their website, on YouTube, on
Twitter, on Tik Tok for the next few
days before it gets banned probably.
And, follow Max Blumenthal. And you
can check out where do you sell your
books? On Amazon?

Well, you can find them anywhere. Just
you can find them at independent book
sellers too if you don't want to give
Jeff B.
That's probably better.

That's better. Well, Max Blumenthal,
thank you so much.

Thanks a lot, Jackson. Good seeing you.

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PROOF Leaks Erika Kirk PLOTTED On Charlie For YEARS. Erika’s Mother ARRANGED Their Marriage
Statecraft
Dec 4, 2025

But who IS Erika Kirk really? Well, get ready because the biggest bombshell about Erika’s past just dropped, and it literally changes EVERYTHING we've been told about her marriage to Charlie!

So there’s this video that just surfaced from 2015, from one of Trump’s early political rallies in Phoenix, Arizona. And there’s someone in the crowd who looks exactly…and I mean SHOCKINGLY similar to Erika Kirk. And next to her, there’s someone who looks a whole lot like Erika’s mother, Lori Frantzve…

But it gets stranger: Erika’s not alone with her mother….She appears to be there with a man and a little girl.

So is that actually Erika Kirk? And if it is, who's the man? Who’s the child? What is the relationship here?



Transcript

You're going to have the real ones and
the fake ones that are standing in the
pulpit and the ones that are on fire for
the Lord. You know,
he literally blinked and probably
thought he was raptured and looked
around and was like, "Where's everybody
else?" He blinked and he was with the
Lord. The enemy would love for me to be
angry.
He would love it. Almost like
I'm so glad I'm not you.
But who is Erica Kirk really? Well, get
ready because the biggest bombshell
about Erica's past just dropped and it
literally changes everything we've been
told about her marriage to Charlie. So,
there's this video that just surfaced
from 2015 from one of Trump's early
political rallies in Phoenix, Arizona.
And there's someone in the crowd who
looks exactly, and I mean shockingly,
similar to Erica Kirk. And next to her,
there's someone who looks a whole lot
like Erica's mother, Lorie France. But
it gets stranger. Erica's not alone with
her mother. She appears to be there with
a man and a little girl. So, is that
actually Erica Kirk? And if it is, who's
the man? Who's the child? What is the
relationship here? So, this video is
still on YouTube and it's titled Donald
Trump visits Phoenix, Arizona on July
11th, 2015. Issues impacting America.
But, weirdly, the comments have been
disabled. Now, watching the clip, look
way in the back, top row, dead center.
There's a woman with blonde hair wearing
what looks like a very light reddish
pink dress. At first glance, looks a lot
like Erica.
[Applause]
We have a situation
that's absolutely out of control. We
have incompetent politicians, not only
the president.
And then next to this woman that looks
like Erica, there's a man in a black and
white plaid button-up shirt with a black
tie. And next to them is a little girl.
And if that doesn't already pull you in,
there's another figure who looks very
similar to Erica's mother, Lorie Fransi.
Some people don't get it. And I don't
think they'll be in office much longer.
I
We are going to make this country so
great again.
We are going
So, are we looking at Erica, her mother,
and a family situation we don't know
about? A niece, a goddaughter, the
daughter of a guy she was dating at the
time, her own daughter? Now, there's
nothing inherently wrong about being at
a rally in 2015 with someone you were
dating. There's nothing sinister about
having a child before meeting Charlie.
The only reason this becomes complicated
is because of what comes after, which
we'll get into in a second. But first,
let's go back to the video and jump
ahead a bit. Trump is speaking and there
they are again. Blonde hair, pink dress,
plaid shirt, man. This time it's even
clearer. And tell me you don't see it.
The hair flip, the posture, the
expressions. Those are mannerisms we've
all seen from Erica before.
You know, these are real knowledgeable
people. They don't know anything.
Then they said he'll never file his FPC
paper if I file that two weeks. They
said, "Oh, wow."
Yeah.
And they said
he'll never file his financials. The
resemblance is too strong to just
ignore, especially when you look at the
still shots. In each of these shots, the
blonde woman and the man are clearly
together. They're leaning into each
other, reacting together, positioned
together. The child is physically
interacting with the woman, hugging her,
clinging to her like a kid does with
someone familiar, not a random stranger
at a political rally. Check out the
interaction between the couple and the
child. They're clearly there together
and they look like a family.
And by the way, cameras just like you
have all these cameras. We're live
television all over the place like we
are now. And he said, "Donald, I had
calls from Hispanic people."
Now, when you compare this with Erica's
older photos and videos from this time
period, especially the ones with her
mother, the resemblance is undeniable.
Here with Erica, Miss Arizona.
Hi.
So, Erica,
what are some of your favorite products
from Marine Cosmetics?
I absolutely love Lifeguard lover,
mostly because it has that peachy bronzy
feel to it.
But here's where it gets extra tangled.
So, in that same Trump rally video, if
you look directly below Erica and the
man in the plaid shirt, there's someone
in the gray suit who looks exactly like
Tyler Boer. Yes, the Turning Point Tyler
Boer, the same guy who connected Erica
to Charlie Kirk and set up their job
interview/date.
Tyler became TPUSA's chief operating
officer in 2017. And just months later,
he arranged a meeting between Charlie
and Erica. I went to Turning Point's
office opening for their first building
and Tyler was he runs Turning Point
Action now and he said, "You need to
meet the CEO." I said, "Okay, great."
Met him very quickly, shook his hand,
said, "Hi, nice to meet you." Neither of
us thought anything of it. Looking back
now, he apparently sat down with Tyler
and said, "We need to hire or Tyler
said, "We need to hire her." And
interestingly, this meeting happened
after Erica came back from a pilgrimage
with her mom and spotted Charlie at the
airport. Although she claimed she had no
idea who he was at the time. But just
know that nothing is by mistake.
Nothing.
I will never forget the time I was in
Israel with my husband. Well, not with
that was the second time, but the first
time with my mother on a pilgrimage
and I was standing in the ticket line
and I remember looking behind me and in
the snake of the ticket line was a guy
who looked very familiar. I had no idea
who he was. And I told my mom, "This guy
looks so familiar." And as a typical
mother, she said, "Go and say hi."
No, we were late for our flight and I'm
not going to come off like a crazy
person with a That's just weird.
that ended up being Charlie.
[Applause]
Nothing is by coincidence. Now, did I
did we know that that No, not until we
were like 3 months into our relationship
and looking at time stamps seeing that
both of us were in Israel at the same
time.
But nothing is by coincidence. Now,
going back to that Trump rally video. So
now you have someone who looks like
Erica, someone who looks like Erica's
mother, a man and a little girl
interacting closely with them, and Tyler
Boer standing right beneath them 3 years
before Charlie and Erica supposedly met
for the first time in 2018. Now remember
that Erica won Miss Arizona in 2012 when
the pageant was still owned by Trump. So
there was already a line of connection
there. but appearing at a 2015 Trump
rally with people who look like family.
That's not just a line of connection.
That's direct overlap. Now, let's talk
ages. Erica would have been 26 in July
2015. She supposedly met Charlie at 29
in 2018 and they married in 2021. Now,
if she already had a child, biological,
adopted, stepchild, anything, there's
nothing scandalous about it. But given
how clean and curated their public how
we met story is, people are naturally
curious if there's more to her biography
than what's been publicly stated. There
were even claims made by some anonymous
sources that Erica was married
previously to someone named Derek
Chelvig, who was allegedly involved with
Erica's charity, Romanian Angels. And
again, none of this would be especially
weird unless you buy into the official
version of how these people met. If all
these individuals already knew each
other years earlier and were all
connected through Trump circles, that
heavily contradicts the whole we met by
fate in 2018 narrative. And even if you
personally think the blonde woman in
that video isn't Erica, the presence of
someone who looks exactly like her
mother, Lorie, paired with Tyler Bo,
you're right below them creates a
pattern that's hard to dismiss as a
coincidence. Now, let's talk about Lorie
for a second because that's where the
rabbit hole gets even weirder. See,
Lorie France isn't just a mother and a
Trump supporter. This woman has deep
ties to the military and the
intelligence community through her work.
Erica's even talked about this herself
in an old interview where she said her
mom moved to Arizona for a business
opportunity tied to her work with the
Department of Homeland Security to be
closer to government contracts and
defense work.
Can I ask a question? This might be off
topic. How did you how did your mom
choose Phoenix? So, she chose to move to
Phoenix uh from Ohio because there was
more of a um an opportunity for a female
business owner out here. Um especially
from the standpoint of she was getting
involved with uh the government, so
Homeland Security and Department of
Defense. And so, she had other business
partners that were out here that were
already in that industry. Um even one
that was a mentor of hers. So, it was it
was really convenient to be able to come
all together in one place. It turns out
Lorie started several tech and defense
companies, including one called AZ Tech
International and subsidiaries GTK
Industries and E3 Tech Group, all of
which worked with the Department of
Defense, Department of Homeland
Security, and the Intel community. On
top of that, according to Internet
Sleuths, Erica's parents, Lori and Kent
France, both worked on projects overseas
through their military contracts. Rathon
partnered with Israel's Raphael to build
the Iron Dome missile defense system
because in 2025, Donald Trump himself
pushed for building what he called a
gold dome over America, modeled directly
after Israel's Iron Dome.
So, just like Erica herself said,
nothing is by coincidence. In fact, we
could be looking at a bunch of actors on
stage. But here's the real question. How
much did Charlie actually know about
Erica's past? Did he genuinely believe
fate brought them together? And the
biggest question of all, did the same
people he trusted, the ones he
considered family, have anything to do
with what ultimately happened to him?
Drop your thoughts in the comments
because this story is nowhere near
finished. And honestly, it feels like
Erica's closet might still have a few
more skeletons waiting for their

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Jaguar Wright's Shocking Claims About Erika Kirk
Gossip Zip
Oct 18, 2025

The world watched in stunned disbelief as news broke of Charlie Kirk’s sudden and violent end. A prominent, often polarizing voice was silenced in a brutal, public fashion, but the story that emerged was far from simple. As the official narrative took shape, a dark undercurrent of suspicion began to swell, a feeling that what we were being told was a carefully constructed facade. This isn't just about a tragic loss; it's about a tangled web of deceit, powerful figures operating in the shadows, and an alleged cover-up that seems to stretch into the highest echelons of power. The story of a lone gunman has crumbled, replaced by a storm of accusations and shocking revelations that paint a far more sinister picture.



Transcript

People
have raised $4 million for Charlie Kirk.
$4 million. He and his wife are like
multi-millionaires. You realize that,
right? And you you've raised $4 million
for multi-millionaires when there are
people surviving literal famine and
genocide right now.
That's that's great. Nobody can tell me
that this is a grieving widow. Like this
woman's husband was publicly
assassinated what, three weeks ago, and
she's already sitting down with a smile
to host his podcast. Girl didn't even
wait a month. I don't even know if they
buried the guy yet. Holy.
Father, forgive them for they not know
what they do.
That man,
that young man,
I forgive him.
The world watched in stunned disbelief
as news broke of Charlie Kirk's sudden
and violent end. A prominent, often
polarizing voice was silenced in a
brutal public fashion. But the story
that emerged was far from simple. As the
official narrative took shape, a dark
undercurrent of suspicion began to
swell. A feeling that what we were being
told was a carefully constructed facade.
This isn't just about a tragic loss.
It's about a tangled web of deceit and
an alleged coverup that seems to stretch
into the highest echelons of power. The
story of a lone gunman has crumbled,
replaced by a storm of accusations and
shocking revelations that paint a far
more sinister picture. Immediately
following the devastating news, all eyes
turned to Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow.
Her behavior in the aftermath was for
many the first major red flag. Her
public appearances, especially her
incredibly swift return to hosting his
podcast with a smile, sparked intense
debate and skepticism. It was a jarring
image that many found impossible to
reconcile with the profound grief
expected from someone whose husband had
been publicly assassinated just weeks
prior. And she's already sitting down
with a smile to host his podcast. one
observer noted, perfectly capturing the
public's unease. Her statements at the
memorial were even more unsettling. As
she stood on stage, her declaration of
forgiveness for the alleged killer came
across as strangely emotionless and
hollow. It was a performance that even a
5-year-old actress could put up better,
leaving many convinced that her display
of sorrow was not just staged, but a
deliberate act of misdirection. Whispers
quickly turned into accusations with a
growing number of people believing she
knew Charlie was destined to be silenced
and may have even played a role in the
sinister plan.
In case you needed one more reason why
the funeral that they held for Charlie
Kirk was just heavily propagandized
political theater. Turning Point Action,
which is the political action arm of
Turning Point USA, literally had a booth
outside the stadium where they had the
memorial service enticing people to
register to vote Republican. and they
had a literal sign that was like, "Do it
for Charlie." They dead ass
propagandized a funeral to get people to
register to vote for them.
While suspicion swirled around Erica,
the official narrative swiftly
pinpointed a suspect, Tyler Robinson, a
two 2-year-old. The FBI released
surveillance footage they claimed was
him and announced his DNA was found on
the rifle's trigger and other items at
the rooftop vantage point. To cement the
story, reports circulated that his own
parents had recognized him from blurry
photos and handed him over to the
authorities. The charges laid against
Robinson were exceptionally severe,
including aggravated murder and a
capital felony, carrying the terrifying
weight of a potential death penalty or a
mandatory life sentence without the
possibility of parole.
Mr. Robinson for count one aggravated
murder, a capital felony in violation of
Utah code annotated 76-5-202
in that on September 10th, 2025 in Utah
County, the defendant, Tyler James
Robinson, intentionally or knowingly
caused the death of Charlie Kirk under
the following circumstances. The
defendant knowingly created a great risk
of death to another individual other
than Charlie Kirk and the defendant.
Notice conviction of this offense may
carry the death penalty or pursuant to
Utah code 763-207.7,
a mandatory mandatory term of
imprisonment for life without parole or
an indeterminate term of not less than
25 years that may be for life. Yet,
despite these seemingly damning details,
an unsettling number of people refused
to accept this simple explanation.
Doubts lingered, fueling the idea that
Tyler Robinson was not a killer, but a
pawn, a conveniently chosen fall guy,
meticulously set up to obscure a far
more intricate and disturbing truth. It
was at this moment that Candace Owens, a
former colleague and fierce advocate for
Charlie, stepped into the fray. She
immediately and publicly challenged the
prevailing narrative, refusing to see
Tyler Robinson as anything more than a
small variable in a much larger, darker
equation. Owens unleashed explosive
allegations that shifted the entire
focus of the investigation. She claimed
that weeks before Charlie's passing,
billionaire Bill Aman had orchestrated a
private intervention in the Hamptons.
The alleged motive was chillingly clear
to pressure Charlie Kirk into aligning
with a particular agenda concerning
Israel. When Charlie steadfastly refused
to compromise his principles, Owens
contends the situation escalated into
threats and blackmail. Threats were
made, she declared, detailing how these
powerful figures operate. Do what we say
or we'll ruin your life. We're going to
call up all our friends and we'll just
start writing hit pieces about you.
We'll have your sponsors drop. We'll sue
you for everything you have." She
painted a harrowing picture of a
powerful cabal attempting to coersse
Charlie, leaving little doubt in her
followers minds that his steadfast
principles ultimately cost him his life.
But Candace Owens was far from finished.
She intensified her campaign, taking to
Instagram to expose what she damningly
termed a federal concoction, a
coordinated lie involving both the FBI
and Erica Kirk. Erica Kirk, man, that
she really is just the moment. The
speech that she gave, everybody was just
wowed by her. I felt my energy
personally like last night going into
that. I was effectively like soaring in
the air above the convention center,
like a dragon above, waiting for Erica
to just be like fire. And I was just
going to come down and swoop in out of
nowhere. All the politicians, all the
fake people, everyone was just going to
be in that moment toast. Owens asserted
that the blurry images of Tyler Robinson
allegedly leaving the rooftop were not
just unconvincing, but outright fake.
Even more damning, she claimed the story
of his parents confirming his identity
and reporting him was a complete
fabrication, a piece of fiction designed
to sell the official story. Owens
meticulously dismantled the media's
narrative that Tyler had selfharming
thoughts before the incident, insisting
that Tyler has consistently maintained
his innocence and adamantly stated he
had never even been to the UVU campus.
In a bold and stunning move, she
declared that the federal government was
lying about absolutely everything
surrounding the case. Save for the
undeniable fact that the gun was
registered to Tyler, adding a powerful
voice to this chorus of disscent, Jaguar
Wright, known for her outspoken and
often controversial takes threw her full
support behind Candace Owen's
allegations. Wright articulated a
chilling theory that resonated with
many. The feds were exploiting Tyler
Robinson as a convenient scapegoat, a
distraction to shield Erica Kirk and
other powerful billionaires who were in
reality deeply entangled in Charlie's
demise. Then Jaguar Wright introduced a
truly stunning accusation that took the
conspiracy to a global level. So, I want
to talk about
that ammo,
how it hit him, cuz they were trying to
make it seem like it came from the roof.
That kind of ammo
going through a neck.
It should have went through and came out
the other side. And then upon exit,
there should have been spray.
There were people that were sitting
behind him.
Did they catch anybody
with, you know, blue on them?
Did we see anybody
around him with blue? Erica Kirk, she
alleged, was a member of a foreign
intelligence agency, strategically
planted in Charlie's life to gather
intelligence, and ultimately facilitate
his removal when the time was right.
Wright also broke down the logistical
absurdities of the official story,
pointing to the lack of blood spatter
and comparing it to the JFK
assassination as evidence of a
professional, clean job. She, like
others, questioned how Tyler could have
roamed a college campus with a rifle
without a single person noticing. "Do
they really think that we're that
stupid?" a voice in the original video
asked, perfectly encapsulating the
widespread disbelief.
"Oh, this giant thing that's wrapped in
a towel, it's a pool cube, a a guitar
science project. It's a psychological
operation to see if people really
believe what the FBI say, but it's
definitely not a rifle. Do they really
think that we're thating stupid? There's
going to be no videos of this guy
walking around with this in a towel or
in a backpack that doesn't fit or down
his pant leg. This is my shortest rifle.
Okay, we're not stupid.
Look a little deeper. Um, why did a
private jet take off from a private
airport 12 minutes from the with this
radar illegally turned off for 20
minutes after the
is gaslighting.
They're trying to charge up. They want a
race war. They want mayhem in the
streets. We know that this is a
professional hit. That there was a there
was a clear spotter in the back that
grabbed his hat twice. And that's a
signal for a sniper to, you know, and
then somebody judged the distance,
checked the arm, and come right up to
Charlie's uh uh uh uh neck.
How many mashers there have been in
America over the last 10 years? Counting
or not counting gang violence.
Clearly, those are signals by two men to
someone in front of them. counting or
not counting gang violence.
It was a professional. They seen
somebody crawling on the roof and and
then you know they just found some old
wrinkled up man and said he did it. Oh
yeah. Okay. So he he can carry a high
powered rifle and shoot and all that
then and he's yelling out who who who
does that unless he's a paid actor.
As these explosive theories gained
traction, the internet erupted with even
more unsettling speculation. Public
forums and comment sections began to
draw connections between Erica Kirk and
the infamous Epstein files, with some
alleging her role as a recruiter within
that dark network. Accusations surfaced
of Erica's involvement in a sinister
ring operating under the guise of
philanthropic orphanage activities and
her alleged ties to controversial
figures like the Tate brothers, Donald
Trump, and Epstein himself. Commentators
with a keen eye for detail suggested
Charlie's end bore all the hallmarks of
a professional hit. The conflicting
narratives and persistent doubts
surrounding Charlie Kirk's death have
left an indelible stain on his legacy.
The accusations leveled against his
wife, against powerful billionaires, and
even against federal agencies paint a
grim picture of manipulation and
betrayal. As the public grapples with
these shocking revelations, one question
looms larger than all others. What
hidden forces were truly at play in
silencing Charlie Kirk? And will the
full glo unvarnished truth ever see the
light of day? The story we've been told
is unraveling. And what lies beneath is
a profoundly disturbing mystery that
refuses to be buried.

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Jaguar Wright EXPOSES Charlie Kirk’s Widow — What Happens Next Will SHOCK You!
Gossipspills
Dec 13, 2025



Transcript

clear we're not getting all the information. It's clear something's off here. I forgive him.
Nobody, and I mean nobody, expected Jaguar Wright to go after Erica Kirk.
Not after everything that happened with Charlie. Not after the months of silence. Not after Erica practically
disappeared from the public eye to avoid triggering more. But Jaguar, right? She
doesn't care about silence. She doesn't care about timing. She doesn't care about respecting boundaries. Jaguar
cares about one thing only, calling out whoever she believes is hiding the truth. And this time, she didn't just
name drop Erica Kirk. She dragged Charlie's widow straight into a whirlwind of accusations, theories,
leaked whispers, insider claims, and emotional bombs that nobody was prepared for. Not even
Erica herself. It all started during Jaguar's late night live stream. The one
where she usually unloads about industry secrets, spiritual warfare, people she
believes are protected, and the ones she believes are handled. But last night's stream, it was different. Jaguar leaned
in close to the camera, eyes wild with conviction, voice low and vibrating with tension, and said, "Charlie Kirk didn't
leave this world clean." and his wife. Baby, she knows more than she's pretending.
The comments exploded. People begged for clarification. People asked if Jaguar
was serious. People begged her to drop receipts. And Jaguar didn't hesitate.
She kept going. There are documents. There are recordings. And there are people Charlie talked to before he died.
Erica is part of it whether she likes it or not. And I'm done pretending otherwise. The internet lost its mind
because Jaguar Wright doesn't speak in hypotheticals. She speaks like she already saw the ending to the movie the
rest of us are still watching. And the way she framed Erica, not as a villain,
not as a victim, but as a keyholder to a truth much bigger than Charlie's public persona sent shock waves through every
corner of the internet. The question now isn't whether Jaguar is right. The
question is, what did Erica get pulled into? And why does Jaguar sound like she knows the part Erica never wanted
revealed? Long before Jaguar Wright ever said Erica Kirk's name? Long before she
lit the internet on fire with her accusations. Long before she pulled Charlie's widow
into a narrative she never wanted attached to her life again. There were signs, quiet signs, hidden signs, subtle
signs that something about Erica's world didn't add up. Even before Charlie's death sent everything spiraling, people
forget this now, but Erica wasn't always the silent, distant, overwhelmed widow
trying to outrun the avalanche of rumors swirling around her. There was a time she was the carefully curated symbol of
conservative feminine perfection. Polished, poised, soft-spoken, but impossibly strategic in her movements.
She was everywhere and nowhere. Present but unreadable. Sweet but guarded. And
that duality wasn't accidental. It was crafted dot from the moment she stepped
into Charlie's public sphere. Insiders whispered that Erica always felt like
she was balancing two different worlds. The one she presented and the one she
hid. Charlie used to joke that Erica ran on secrets, not coffee. But those
closest to them noticed the truth underneath the humor. Erica was tired of holding something up,
something heavy, something she couldn't escape. Something Charlie once called the burden she never asked for. And what
was that burden? Nobody knew. Nobody dared to ask until Jaguar Wright did.
But to understand how Jaguar connected herself to Erica's silent chaos, you have to go back further. Before Charlie,
before TPUSA, before the curated brand, back to Erica's beginnings. Her childhood wasn't
messy. It was structured, tightly managed, run with a cold efficiency of a
parent preparing a child not for life, but for a role. Everything about her upbringing felt rehearsed. public
smiles, practiced charity, selective vulnerability, curated appearances. She
learned early that emotions were not expressions, they were tools, that secrets were not accidents. They were
leverage. And that loyalty was not optional. It was demanded. Her mother
especially believed in control, in image, in calculated relationships. She
didn't raise Erica to fall in love. She raised her to be chosen. So when Charlie Kirk entered the picture, people thought
it was a natural match. Similar worldviews, similar circles, similar ambitions. It looked like chemistry, but
insiders said something different. It looked like placement. Charlie was rising fast. Erica was polished in all
the right ways. The two families aligned perfectly. The brand values skyrocketed.
Dot. Everything fit too easily. But the cracks began early. Small things only a
few noticed. Erica disappearing backstage to take phone calls she never mentioned. Charlie asking Candace why
Erica suddenly became guarded about travel plans. Erica skipping events claiming migraines. The one insider said
she wasn't sick, she was scared. There was a night something Jaguar later referenced cryptically when Erica broke
down at a hotel after a charity gala. Nobody knows exactly what triggered it,
but a staffer overheard her say through tears, "I can't keep pretending this is normal." Charlie tried to comfort her,
but she wasn't talking about him. She wasn't talking about marriage stress. She was talking about something else,
something older, something attached to her long before he entered her life, something she couldn't walk away from.
Over time, Charlie grew aware. He wasn't ignorant. He wasn't naive. He wasn't
blind. He loved Erica, but he knew she carried something she couldn't share.
His notes recovered after his death. Show entries like e acting strange
again. Says she has a meeting she can't discuss. New deposit from unknown
foundation. Ask her later. She's hiding something. Doesn't trust me with it.
Why? Charlie didn't know what the something was, but Jaguar
Wright insists she does. Jaguar calls it the secret role. The role Erica never
disclosed, the one she didn't choose, the one she inherited. But while Erica was struggling with the weight of her
internal world, Jaguar was making her own dangerous path, tearing through
industries, exposing people, calling out powerful circles she believed were corrupt. Jaguar gained a reputation for
saying things nobody else dared to say. So when Jaguar learned through sources she never reveals that Erica was
connected to something deeper. Her interest sharpened instantly. Jaguar
didn't see Erica as a villain. She saw Erica as a participant. Not willingly,
but entangled. And Jaguar had receipts. She hinted that Erica wasn't just
involved with Darly's public career. She was involved in something before him.
Something hidden. Something she couldn't escape even after he died. Jaguar's
claim was simple but explosive. Erica wasn't a bystander. She was in the room,
but in what room? With who? And why did Charlie try to shield her from something
she refused to leave? People remember the smiling photos, the perfect holiday cards, the speeches about faith and
family. But what they don't remember are the moments behind the scenes that didn't match the facade. Like when Erica
panicked at a fundraiser because a certain donor appeared unexpectedly. Or when she begged Charlie not to attend
a summit with those people. A phrase Charlie wrote down but never explained. Or when she removed entire chunks of her
schedule from staff view. Then came the biggest red flag. 2 months before
Charlie's death, Erica met with someone alone, a meeting not on her public schedule, someone connected to an
organization Charlie had been quietly investigating. Someone Jaguar Wright claims is the missing link in the entire
timeline. After that meeting, Erica changed. She became distant, distracted,
defensive, terrified of Charlie seeing her phone. Charlie noticed, Candace
noticed, even TPUSA staff noticed. Jaguar says Charlie confronted Erica
about it and that fight changed everything. According to Jaguar, Charlie
found out what room Erica was in and once he knew he couldn't unsee it.
Jaguar claims that Erica didn't pull away from Charlie because she was guilty. She pulled away because she
didn't want the people behind her involvement to turn on him. She was caught between a husband she genuinely
loved. in a past she couldn't escape. A past
Jaguar knows more about than the public ever realized. Which is why Jaguar's live stream wasn't random. It was a
warning, a message, a bomb. Erica was involved not because she wanted to be,
but because she already was. It's the internet still. Doesn't know what that means. But Jaguar does dot and now
Erica's name a name she spent months keeping out of headlines is back in the center of the storm. She prayed would
never return because Jaguar hasn't even dropped the reel receipt yet. She's only
warming up. Dot. Jaguar Wright didn't ease into her accusations. She didn't
drip feed hints. She didn't build suspense. She detonated the bomb all at once, aggressively, confidently, with
the kind of conviction only Jaguar carries. The moment she pulled up Erica Kirk's name on her live stream, people
sensed that she wasn't speculating. She was remembering Jaguar began with a simple question. Y'all ever wonder why
Erica went silent so fast after Charlie died? Comments, fluent theories, jokes,
confusion, but Jaguar didn't smile. Her expression stayed hard, steady, sharp.
Stayed hard, steady, sharp. Because silence ain't grief. Silence is
strategy. That line hit the internet like gasoline on an open flame. Almost immediately,
viewers started clipping her words, stitching them into Tik Toks, pausing her facial expressions, analyzing her
tone. Jaguar didn't look angry. She looked certain. A certainty that
terrified people who knew her track record. Then Jaguar dropped the first real bomb. I've seen Erica before. Years
before Charlie. Years before Tupa. Years before anyone even knew her name. A t
chat froze. How? Where? With who? What do you mean? Messages flew so fast the
entire live stream. Lag. Jaguar inhaled deeply and leaned closer to the camera
as if preparing to rip open something. She spent years locking away. I met
Erica through people she don't ever want y'all to know. She associated with a
beat, a silence so sharp it could cut glass. People Charlie wasn't supposed to
know about. Now, viewers weren't just curious, they were terrified. Jaguar
explained that long before Erica became the conservative wife on polished stages
and charity panels, she was orbiting around a different world, one built on influence, control, recruitment, and
secrecy. A world Jaguar had been warning the public about for years. Jaguar
described a private event in DC years before Charlie and Erica's marriage
where select young women well-groomed, well coached, well- prepped, as she put it, were
brought into closed door sessions with donors, strategists, and handlers connected to multiple political and
entertainment pipelines. She said Erica was there, not as a guest, not as staff,
dot as a participant. According to Jaguar, Erica wasn't groomed for marriage. She was groomed for access,
access to people, access to networks, access to influence, but most
importantly, access to men who are being shaped into future political assets. Jaguar claimed these
gatherings were designed to align certain women with certain men, not through romance, but through strategic
pairing, a quiet system of placement, not love. A system where roles were
assigned, not chosen. Charlie Jaguar insisted, wasn't chosen for Erica. Erica
was chosen for Charlie. Not mutually, not accidentally, deliberately. Jaguar
didn't mince words. Charlie fell in love. Erica fulfilled a role. Viewers
began melting down. But Jaguar wasn't finished. She took a deep breath and
whispered. And I wasn't the only one who knew. She explained that years later
after Charlie rose in influence, people started panicking because Erica's past involvement with certain groups groups.
Charlie was unknowingly moving closer to exposing posed a risk. A huge one dot
jaguar suggested that Charlie stumbled onto something through documents,
private conversations or connections he didn't recognize were dangerous. Something tied to Erica. Something tied
to those earlier years. The more Charlie dug, the more Erica panicked. Not
because she wanted to betray him, but because she knew what happened to people who discovered too much. Jaguar said
Erica was trying to protect Charlie from the truth, but baby, you can't protect a
man who's already read the ending to the story. This was the twist nobody
expected. Jaguar did not paint Erica as a mastermind. Jaguar painted her as a
pawn. A pawn who knew the rules but couldn't break them. But here's where the conflict exploded. Jaguar said she
received a message two weeks before Charlie died an anonymous tip warning her that someone in the conservative
sphere is getting too close to information they weren't cleared for the
message included initials C.K. at viewers watching Jaguar's stream
physically recoiled. Dot. Jaguar made it clear. She tried to warn Charlie. She
tried to send him a message, but she wasn't able to reach him. Then Jaguar paused. Her eyes softened. She said
something nobody expected. Erica looked scared long before Charlie died. Pay
attention to that. Comments poured in. She knew something. She was forced to hide it. Jaguar is exposing the truth.
Was Erica being blackmailed? And that's when Jaguar dropped the first twist of the night. It's the one that changed
everything. Erica didn't pull Charlie into danger. Charlie pulled Erica out of
something and they punished him for it. The chat exploded. People begged for
details. Jaguar's voice shook, but she continued. She said that the man Erica
was seen meeting in various leaked photos wasn't a lover. Wasn't a donor,
wasn't a mystery friend. He was her former handler. Someone responsible for guiding her, managing her, shaping her
for the role she grew into. Someone who lost access to her once she married Charlie and stepped into a new world.
Outside their control, handlers don't like losing their assets. Jaguar explained. Charlie didn't know Erica had
a past. But when he found out he tried to get her out, that was the real problem. Not Erica's silence, not
Charlie's questions, not their marriage issues. The problem was that Charlie tried to free Erica.
From a system that doesn't allow exits, Jaguar leaned close to the camera,
almost whispering. Charlie's death wasn't about him. It was about who he was trying to save. At this point, the
live stream chat was unreadable. Comments flashing at a speed human eyes couldn't track. Some people were crying.
Some were furious. Some were terrified. People asked Jaguar how she knew any of
this. Why she never said it earlier? Jaguar answered quietly. Because Erica
wasn't the villain. She was the warning. Then she dropped the first twist.
the absolute title wave that sent the internet into full meltdown. Jaguar claimed that two weeks after Charlie
died. Someone contacted her through an encrypted line. A woman, a shaking
voice, someone who refused to say her name, but claimed to be close to Erica.
Jaguar recalled her words exactly. Charlie didn't just find files. He found
a list, and Erica's name was on it. Jaguar said she asked, "A list of what?"
The woman took a breath and whispered a list of people assigned to partners in power, not chosen by them. Jaguar ended
the live stream by saying, "Erica wasn't pulled into drama by me. She was pulled
into a system she's been trying to escape for years. And that system, that list, that network, they aren't finished
with her. Not yet. Not even close." Jaguar Wright didn't log off quietly
that night. She didn't fade out with a casual goodbye or a smirk or a promise
for more tomorrow. She ended her live stream abruptly mid-sentence after dropping a final clue that left millions
sitting in stunned silence, staring at their screens like they had just witnessed a confession from someone who
wasn't supposed to survive telling the truth. The clue was a code, not a metaphorical one, a literal code. A
string of numbers and letters Jaguar whispered before cutting the stream. EK7A L113 control P1. People replayed it
over and over, slowed it down, filtered the audio, translated it into different
languages, tried to link it to government forms, political documents, intelligence files, charity records,
anything. But nobody knew what it meant. Not yet. Because didn't release the full
story publicly. She released it privately to one person. A journalist she trusted. Someone who wasn't afraid
of lawsuits. Someone who wasn't afraid of being followed. Someone who wasn't afraid of the names Jaguar was about to
reveal. Dot. And this journalist leaked everything. That's when the second wave
of revelations hit. The kind that reshaped the internet's understanding of Erica Kirk. Charlie's death and the
shadow network Jaguar insisted had been manipulating relationships for decades.
The journalist's leak began with a chilling statement. Jaguar told me there are documents proving Erica was part of
a recruitment program that assigns women into proximity with rising political
figures. romantically, strategically, women trained to support influence, stabilize,
redirect, and in some cases control. Jaguar insisted that Erica was placed
around Charlie long before they ever officially met. The connection wasn't fate, it was design. The journalist's
notes included a summary of Jaguar's private claims. Erica's handler was a man identified by initials. K. He served
in advisory circles with deep ties to political grooming programs. K. The same
man in the leaked parking garage photos. Charlie hid. The same figure who appeared in dozens of Erica's encrypted
calendar logs. The same shadowy presence Charlie wrote don't trust.
Next to in his notes dot Jaguar explained that MK was responsible for overseeing Erica's movements, who she
met, who she avoided, who she aligned with. His job wasn't emotional. It was
operational. Erica was an assignment. Charlie was an asset. Together, they
formed a pair that was meant to be predictable, manageable, contained. But then everything fell apart because
Charlie fell in love with Erica deeply, genuinely, and Erica began slipping out
of her role. She stopped reporting as often. She ignored instructions. She
privately pushed back. And worst of all, she told Charlie enough that he started
asking questions. Dot. Jaguar said the day Erica chose Charlie over them was the day both their fates were sealed.
Charlie discovered the list. The list of assigned relationships, politicians,
business figures, cultural influencers, all paired with spouses chosen not out
of love but out of strategy. a system designed to manage public narratives and
secure loyalty. Jaguar said Erica's name was on it. Jaguar said Charlie was never
supposed to see it. Jaguar said the moment he did, his life entered a
countdown. But here's where the escalation takes a terrifying turn because the journalist revealed the next
piece of the puzzle. The list had more than couples. It had categories. It had
codes. It had threat rankings. N next to Erica's name. One handwritten annotation
stunned everyone. Volatile when emotionally attached. Volatile when
attached. Meaning Erica was not supposed to fall in love. She wasn't supposed to
bond. She wasn't supposed to confide bond. She wasn't supposed to confide.
But she did. Dot to Charlie dot. And that made her dangerous to the people who assigned her because love
compromises obedience. thought Charlie had always been a threat because of his growing
platform. But Erica, once she emotionally detached from the handlers, became a different kind of threat, a
defector. This revelation changed everything the internet thought it knew.
Jaguars Anonymous journalist source revealed the second twist. The one she
didn't dare say publicly. Erica wasn't just being controlled, she was being
watched. Not by Charlie, by the program. They monitored her calls, her movements,
her emotional responses, her hesitation, her loyalty. And when Charlie started
protecting her from their influence, the handlers moved quickly to regain control. Jaguar claimed Charlie didn't
die because he questioned them. He died because he tried to free someone they believed belonged to them. This flipped
the entire narrative upside dash down. Dot. Erica wasn't Charlie's betrayer.
Erica was the reason he became a target. Because through Erica, Charlie found the
truth. And through Charlie, Erica broke the rules. After the leak went viral, viewers who once saw Erica as suspicious
suddenly saw her as trapped. People who believed she was hiding something now understood she was hiding from
something. But Jaguar wasn't done. She dropped the most disturbing detail, the
documentation tying Erica to MK. Dot. The journalist leaked a partial
retranscript from Jaguar's evidence. MK viewed Erica as a failed placement after
she married Charlie. He reported she had shifted priorities and developed genuine attachment. Upon assessing the
situation, the recommendation read corrective intervention. Corrective
intervention, a phrase with no emotional meaning, only operational meaning. The
journalist explained Jaguar's interpretation. Corrective intervention means realigning a subject to their
assigned role. If the subject resists, the asset becomes unstable. The asset
becomes unstable. The handlers step in. Charlie stepped in first. He tried to
protect Erica. He tried to isolate her from whoever controlled her. He tried to pull her out of the system. That act,
not curiosity, not rebellion, was the actual threat. Then Jaguar's most
shocking reveal surfaced. a voice note from her source. The voice whispered,
"Charlie wasn't trying to expose Erica." He was trying to save her before
they used her against him. People online stopped breathing. Dot used her against him. Meaning Ra's role originally
supportive could be turned into leverage. Manipulation, pressure, or compliance if needed. By falling in love
with Charlie, she became a risk to the system. By trying to free her, Charlie became a risk to the system. They became
a pair of liabilities, not just one. And then came the final blow of the reveal.
Jaguar claimed she has seen documents suggesting. Erica tried to warn Charlie multiple times, not about the program,
but about MK specifically. She tried to stop the meetings. She tried to cut ties.
She begged Charlie to let it go. She tried to erase evidence linking her to MK dot, but Charlie was already digging.
Jaguar said Erica was the one who panicked first, not because she was
guilty, but because she knew Charlie was heading toward a truth. Neither of them could survive. People suddenly
understood the desperation in Erica's eyes during interviews. The reason she withdrew from public life. The reason
she avoided speaking about Charlie's final days. She wasn't hiding guilt. She
was hiding terror. Jaguars. Final revelations stunned millions. Erica
wasn't pulled into drama by me. She was pulled in by the people who owned her past. People reading the leaks, watching
the clips, connecting timelines, and analyzing Jaguar's claims suddenly
saw Erica not as a widow hiding secrets, but as a woman trapped in a system that
punished Love and Charlie. He died trying to dismantle the trap. The
internet did not simply react to Jaguar Wright's revelations, it detonated.
Every platform turned into a battleground of theories, accusations, and stunned disbelief.
People weren't just watching drama unfold. They were watching a hidden system
unravel right in front of them. The first explosion came from Twitter within
minutes of Jaguar's leaked code and claims going public. # surged to the top of worldwide trends.
# Erica List #MK Handler # Charlie New #
Jaguar Exposes #Programmed Partners #theassigned spouses people who had
never interacted with political content were suddenly deep diving into timelines
archived videos old interviews and cryptic photos of Erica standing too
stiffly beside people she shouldn't have known creators flooded social media with breakdown videos. Here's where Erica
disappears mid-event and looks terrified when she sees someone in the crowd. Look at Charlie's expression when Erica pulls
him aside during this gala. He looks confused and scared. This explains why
Erica never answered questions about her timeline. Jaguar didn't just expose
Erica, she exposed an entire operation. Some creators went even deeper. One
popular Tik Tocker posted a side-by-side comparison of Erica's past public
appearances. Cheerful, polished, confident against her more recent ones.
Pale, anxious, stiff, guarded. The caption read, "When you stop being an
asset and start being a liability." The video reached 10 million views in 12
hours. Then came the podcasts. Commentators from every political,
entertainment, and conspiracy niche rushed to go live, scrambling to interpret Jaguar's claims. One host
said, "This is the biggest revelation in years. If Jaguar is right, Erica didn't
betray Charlie. She was captive to something older than their marriage."
Another said, "This confirms Charlie was fighting a war nobody knew he was in." But the most viral clip came from a
commentator who whispered into the mic. Jaguar didn't expose Erica. Jaguar exposed the people who
created Erica. That sentence exploded across the internet like a supernova. And then the
mainstream media entered the ring. News outlets were hesitant at first. Nobody
wants to amplify Jaguar's claims without verification. But once the leaked journalist report dropped, everything
changed. Headlines appeared everywhere. Anonymous source confirms existence of
political pairing programs. Did Charlie Kirk die for something he discovered?
Jaguar Wright suggests Erica was manipulated by external operators. Insiders describe
handler system linked to rising political figures. Suddenly, this wasn't gossip. It was a phenomenon. Even the
French media, the same ones who reported on Charlie's mysterious trips to Paris, resurfaced old footage. A French
interviewer replayed a clip of Charlie looking visibly shaken while discussing
external influences. The host said perhaps Charlie was referring to a pressure the public did not know
existed. And the conversation didn't stop there. People began digging into
MK. The handler Jaguar mentioned dot. Photos emerged of a man frequently seen
near political events, sometimes in the background of charity fundraisers Erica attended before meeting Charlie. People
enhanced the photos, zoomed in, analyzed posture, outlined faces. The internet
turned MK into a ghost, a shadow, a symbol of everything. Jaguar hinted at but didn't fully
explain. And then an anonymous Instagram page posted a message. Jaguar is telling
the truth about MK. Erica tried to leave. Charlie paid the price. The post
had no source, no verification, no identity, but it sparked a wildfire.
People began posting theories everywhere. Erica was groomed. Charlie was targeted when he asked too many
questions. MK punished both of them. Erica was placed not married.
Erica wasn't a wife. She was assigned. Public opinion split sharply. Some
believed Erica was a victim. She's been trapped her whole life. Charlie tried to
save her. Jaguar exposed her suffering. Others believed Erica was complicit. She
knew exactly what she was doing. She reported back to MK. She was part of the system. But the most chilling comments
came from people who believed both were true. She was trapped and useful. She
was controlled and compliant. She loved Charlie and endangered him. She was his
partner and his liability. Then came the industry reactions. Several insiders
anonymously confirmed that political circles do use relationship placements to manage rising figures. One wrote,
"People don't understand how curated these marriages are. Most of them aren't coincidences." Another said, "Jaguar
isn't exaggerating. Erica wasn't the only one." Then the most shocking
anonymous comment leaked. Charlie found the list. Not the whole list, just the
part involving him and Erica. There were more names. The internet lost its mind.
Whose names were on that list? Who else was paired strategically? Who were the handlers? What purpose did
it serve? People speculated wildly. Was this a political grooming network? The
donor controlled placement system, an influence management strategy, psychological operations structure,
something older, something religious, something international. Every theory found a home online. Every
possibility felt plausible. And in the middle of the storm, Erica remained silent. No statements, no posts, no
interviews, no clarifications. But her silence wasn't calming the chaos. It was
feeding it because silence from a widow accused of being a puppet, a victim, a
participant, and a target all at once. It's terrifying. But then came the
moment that changed the entire landscape. A former TPUSA staffer. One
who knew Charlie and Erica posted a 15-second Tik Tok before deleting their account. They said only two sentences.
Charlie wasn't paranoid. He was preparing to expose the list. The clip reached 5 million views in 1 hour. And
the final comment pinned underneath it read, "If Charlie saw the list, who did
he tell? Who did he tell?" Nobody had an answer except Jaguar. And she promised
she wasn't done yet. Jaguar had already shaken the internet with codes, handlers, secret placement programs, and
the revelation that Erica Kirk was never just a grieving widow. She was a woman tied to a system older
and darker than anyone imagined. But the final twist, the one Jaguar had been
holding back, the one she hinted at but never fully revealed on live stream that
came out during a private encrypted conversation she had with the same journalist
who leaked her earlier claims. And the journalist dropped it not to the media, not to the public, not even to Erica.
They dropped it anonymously in a forum known for conspiracy whistleblowers, government leaks, and redacted documents
that mysteriously appear before vanishing again. The file was simple, a single image, white background, black
text. No logo, no watermark. It contained one line. Erica wasn't
Charlie's only point of interest. Jaguars code EK7A references to
individuals. two, not one two dot. Up until now,
everyone assumed Erica was the only person with a role tied to Charlie's downfall. Everyone assumed Erica was the
focus of the list. Everyone assumed Erica's handler MK was the central threat, but Jaguar's code had three
parts. EK7113 control P1. People thought EK meant
Erica Kirk, but Jaguar later clarified off Camra.
EK doesn't stand for Erica. It stands for entry key. Entry key dot as in an
access point. A starting point, a doorway into a much larger network.
Erica wasn't the target. She was the entry. And 7 A, it wasn't a version
number. It was a category. Category 7 A equals emotional access placement.
People like Erica placed around emotional ideological or influential figureheads to stabilize or monitor
their trajectory. So if Erica was EK7A, who was L113?
That was the question nobody could answer until a leaked voice message from Jaguar surfaced. A message she sent to
the journalist off the record. assuming it would never be public. In it, Jaguar
whispered. L113 wasn't assigned to Charlie. It was assigned to someone he
trusted, someone he trusted, someone close, someone he spoke to regularly,
someone he confided in. People immediately assumed Candace Owens. But Candace had no handler ties, no
suspicious past, no weird placements. Then they thought maybe a staffer, maybe
a friend, maybe an executive. But Jaguar's leaked message clarified again.
L113 wasn't placed beside Charlie. L113 was placed beside Erica. This changed
everything. Erica wasn't just monitored. She was paired. Meaning Erica herself
had a handler-shaped shadow assigned not above her, but beside her. Someone to
reinforce the system. Someone to keep her compliant. Someone to report on her
emotional drift. Someone to ensure she didn't fall too deeply in love with Charlie or detach from her. Original
programming dot someone she saw regularly. Someone everyone assumed was safe. Jaguar's final whispered line
before the clip ended. Stunned. Millions. L113 was a woman. A woman. A
woman close to Erica. A woman involved in her life. A woman who appeared harmless. A woman nobody ever suspected.
The forums started digging immediately, looking at friends, assistants, staff,
collaborators, mentors, childhood connections, charity partners. Thousands
of names floated, but the journalist dropped one more hint. L113 attended
Charlie's funeral. And then she hugged Erica for a very long time. People began
scrubbing footage, slowing down videos, analyzing every embrace. Dozens of
theories appeared. But Jaguar Jaguar wasn't done. She appeared briefly on a
late night audio only space and said one last thing before logging off. L113
wasn't there to comfort Erica. She was there to remind her of her role. The
chat exploded. Viewers begged for a name. Jaguar refused, but she left them
with one last clue. Find the woman who disappeared after the funeral. The one
nobody asked about, the one nobody saw again. People searched every photo, every clip,
every screenshot dot, and they realized something chilling. There was a woman standing close to Erica, touching her
shoulder, guiding her through the crowd, then vanishing completely. She wasn't a
relative. She wasn't a staff member. She wasn't identified anywhere. She was
simply there silently watching, assisting, and then gone. People zoomed
in on her face, searched her image, ran it through recognition tools. No name,
no matches, no history. She didn't exist. And that's when Jaguar's final
message leaked. The one she sent privately, almost like a warning, Erica was never
the problem. She was the assignment. The real danger is the woman assigned to
her. Suddenly, everything made sense. Why Erica looked terrified. Why she
isolated herself. Why she never defended herself publicly. Why she cried at the
funeral when talking to the unknown woman. Why she refused interviews? Why
she disappeared from the public eye? Because Erica was never running from rumors. She was running from L-113.
And if L113 vanished after the funeral, it means she wasn't done. It means she
was reassigned. It means the program still as an active directive. And the
final chilling twist. The last line of the anonymous leak read, "L113's new
subject is already in play. The world froze. Who? Where? Why? Nobody knows
except Jaguar, and she's not answering messages. Not anymore. If you made it to
the end of this episode, then you already know this isn't just drama anymore. This isn't just gossip,
theories, or internet speculation. You've just stepped into a story line that connects Charlie's final days.
Erica's Hidden Past, Jaguar's Coded Warnings, The Underground List, MK's
Control, and now the unidentified woman known only as L13,
the shadow who hugged Erica at the funeral and then vanished. And the
scariest part, she didn't disappear. She was reassigned. Jaguar wasn't
exaggerating when she said, "The program didn't end with Charlie. It moved." So
now I need you, the viewers, to carry this investigation forward because the more people watching, the harder it
becomes for the truth to be buried again. Before you leave, answer this in the comments. Who do you think L113 was
reassigned to? A politician, a celebrity, a rising influencer, someone
in Erica's circle, or someone in Charlie's? Do you think Erica was a
victim, an asset, or both? Was she trying to break free or trying to
protect the wrong secret? And what do you think Charlie found in the list that made him risk everything? Your theories
drive the next episode. Every detail you notice helps us connect another piece of this puzzle. The people watching, the
people pulling strings, and the people trying to escape the roles they were assigned. Now, do your part. Like this
video so we can push it into the algorithm and force the truth into the light. Subscribe with notifications on
because episode two is coming. And that's where we uncover the identity of the woman at the funeral. And the
shocking reason she was placed near Erica from the beginning. Comment your theory. Who is L113?
Why was she reassigned? And who is she watching now? Share this episode. The more people talking, less power the
program has to operate in the dark. This story is not finished. It's evolving.
It's spreading. And episode two, it's going to expose the name nobody was
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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: What He Saw On Fort Huachuca The Day Before Charlie Died. | Candace Ep 282
by Candace Owens
12/19/25

I thought long and hard about whether or not to bring the eyewitness from Fort Huachuca onto the show,. When we speak to him and he gives his testimony, I think you will understand why.



Start.
Okay, everyone. Happy Thursday. I have to tell you that I was laughing so much yesterday because I received a flood of
emails from law enforcement officers, military guys that were just like, "No way. Absolutely not. That's where I draw
the line. The bomb dogs missed the gun." Apparently, for people who work with
bomb dogs, this is more of an offense to their intelligence than the man of steel neck. Like, it was just a bridge too
far. This is where they are drawing a line in terms of feds. Anyway, we have
another unbelievable episode for you guys here today. I thought long and hard about whether to bring on the eyewitness
from Fort Wuka. And I think when we speak to him today and he gives you his
testimony, you will of course understand why. I am always honored uh to have any
person that serves in our military, especially honored to have him given all that he has lived through despite the
firestorm that I know that both he and I are about to endure. Welcome back to Candace.
Addressing confirmed data points in the investigation and what doesn't add up.
Okay, so a couple of things before we get into that interview. I at the top of
the show first want to tell you about this interesting question that I received yesterday from one of our
viewers over on X that I wanted to address. He asked me specifically if I
saw black plastic fragmentation over the floor of Charlie's SUV. I was
immediately struck by this question because I am not kidding. When I tell you that the very first thing that I
noticed when I went through those photos of Charlie's SUV, I said to my team that
it looked like there were shards of glass, like tempered glass that you might see if you drop or break an
iPhone. Uh it was very distinct to me in the picture from the blood that is all over the seats and all over the floor. I
was like, "Oh, maybe like someone broke a window or something." And then I sort of put it out of my mind and particularly I noticed a lot of it
spread across that back back seat rear floor. So, I'm going to show you that just a couple of photos of that close up
so that you can see it. Uh what that looks like because yeah, it was just kind of a compelling thing that he
noticed something that I noticed and you can see it was unusual. I I think in
this person's mind, they the the line that they were going down, I guess the line of questioning that they were going
down in their own mind was, is this evidence that something broke on Charlie? Could something have been rigged? And I want to say that we can't
necessarily extrapolate that from what we're looking at. It could be a thousand other things. Somebody could have
actually broken a phone in there. Somebody could have had something in there. It could be broken hard candy. I mean, there's a lot going on. And yeah,
I just But I did want to address that because it was interesting that he noted
it and asked if if we saw little black bits and we and I I do that is visually what I see. I am hesitant, by the way,
to put up the rest of the photos. Kind of still going through that. I want to be slow on that because obviously I
don't want the federal officers, the good guys that are in there who have assisted in this to be rumbled, right? I
don't want people cash to go on a hunt and figure out who gave us what and people to start getting fired. We need
to have the white knights in government. So, I just need some time to think about that. And yeah, anyways, what we can do,
however, and what we're starting to formulate now are just addressing these data points, right? These these
mysterious circumstances, these things that don't necessarily make sense. What do we actually know about that day? And
what's really interesting for me is when I review these data points, I I can't
fathom how there are people out there right now trying to convince you that there is overwhelming evidence that
Tyler Robinson committed this crime. There's actually no there's no evidence outside of these shady messages that are
not even timestamped. He we don't have a confession from him. We have nothing. Okay. So, these are just some some data points for you to to
remember as we go through this. The surgeon never confirmed or even
suggested that Charlie was shot with a 30 odd six or that Charlie had a steel
neck uh that stopped that bullet. Rather, he suggested throughout the course of a conversation that maybe A
frangible bullet was used. The lone confirmed eyewitness that we have that
is confirmed to the alleged shooter on Loy Center rooftop before the sound goes
off. The sound of a shot rings out has not been contacted by the lawyers or the
investigators on either side of this trial, the pending trial. We are now in the phase where investigators are
supposed to go out and be collecting more evidence pending um the May
probable cause hearing. He still has not been contacted. And why is that crucial? Because this individual is an instructor
at a gun range. He claims the weapon that he saw looked more like a 223.
Quote, something shorter than the one that they found. The person that he observed was wearing what seemed to him
to be black tactical gear plus a face mask. And he describes that person as looking like a like a professional.
The bomb dogs were unable to locate the weapon in the field. where it was
eventually discovered despite the fact that they had crawled over that area. They just weren't on their game that day. That this is not my favorite part
of the story. It's just a little I just didn't expect uh the reaction to be what it was. It's I I just love the people
that are like no. Absolut
directed local officers to the weapon. Lucky feds. Lucky feds. The canines were
not provided with the scent of the weapon once it was discovered. So they did not then take that weapon and then
have the dogs trace it back to the top of lawy. That did not happen. Uh Terl Farnsworth still major question marks.
He raced to remove the camera that was directly behind Charlie's head. I want to tell you, by the way, I'm reading
myself into this, so not a data point, but in my mind, when I imagine why he
might have done that, uh, I think it's because they were going to go with this
story that a 306 hit Charlie Kirk. And what debunked that obviously would be
seeing that it didn't it didn't go through. There was no like there was no evidence of what should have been a tremendous amount of damage done to his
neck. I also want to say here because I've heard that various people like Terl are getting death threats. Obviously, if
you're watching this show, we are investigating what happened with Charlie Kirk. I have been clear that I do believe that there are some people that
are engaged in a cover up. I am never giving anybody the permission to, you know, go be a bandit and go outside and
and take the law into your own hands. That's not what we should ever be doing and engaging in. Um, next data point
that we have, federal agents prevented the surgeon from returning to his operating room. I told you that was
something that startled him and he placed a call presumably to DC uh to
make them move because he wanted that obviously the team to get back in there to clean it to make sure that Charlie could get cleaned up before Erica came
in. Uh, federal agents removed the hospital surveillance footage. They're on a manhunt and for some reason that
seemed like something that they should do. that strikes me as tremendously odd. We have that the vehicle in which
Charlie was transported to Tempenos or Tanagos Hospital was not impounded by
law enforcement. It's very odd. Uh and there were multiple sets of prints on
the weapon that was found. Something that I did not share with you, but I did know this for some time and I can
confirm this to you because that's one of their things. They got the prints of Tyler Robinson on this gun. There were
multiple sets of prints that were on the gun that was recovered thanks to the
instincts of the feds and not the noses of the dogs. And finally, and I think
this is a big thing, the footage of Tyler Robinson turning himself in is apparently missing. And I have told you
guys, and again, I'm reading myself into this. And in my investigation, I found that their entire story about how the
parents turned him in and did the right thing is crap. It is BS. That's not what happened. They were told either, you
know, these doors are going to get broken down or you're going to you're going to come in peacefully. Uh and
Tyler chose the latter. I also was told by police officers that were there when he he came into the police uh that they
were they were told not to look at him. They were told to avoid cameras. Very
strange things that happened when he did eventually come in. And we won't know how strange because apparently the
footage is missing according to local Utah news that they they didn't say a foya. There's another term. What was a
gamma requested for that footage and were basically told well now there's
been an expiration on that footage and we don't have it. So maybe they just mean they already handed it over to
investigators. I don't know. But we will wait and see. That's a lot that is going
on. I want to pivot now because our instincts, which they keep mocking us
over, I think are on the money. We're going to talk now about Christianity.
Christianity, I'm putting that in quotation marks because it has been on this podcast a recurring theme, right? I
keep sensing a that these pastors are dangerous,
right? I've covered extensively how even just amongst the Cavalry Chapel uh in
particular, there's just way too much of a habit of establishing former pedophiles and drug traffickers as lead
pastors of churches. Okay? I'm not saying that people can't find God. I'm
just saying that my preference would be that they maybe not be provided with access to children, right? if if you
committed a crime against child. Uh this is a preference that I guess is not or
perhaps is in conflict with the beliefs and the preferences of Rob McCoy who makes my skin crawl. We showed you uh
that interview that he did with somebody who apparently went on rampage. He actually went to prison for it and he was just sort of laundering his
reputation and then gave him access again uh to children. I feel like that is very wrong.
I have also on this show been speaking a lot about these quote unquote Christian
influencers. Something's not right. A lot of women who seem to know their
Bibles for almost the implicit and explicit aim of socially engineering the
population, right? Telling you, "Oh, it's right here in the Bible." Same with the pastors. God doesn't want you to
follow Tucker Carlson on Instagram. Josh Hammer is amazing. Candace is possessed by a demon. You don't want to be
possessed by a demon. So unfollow Tucker Carlson and unfollow Candace and I promise there is no other motivations.
Candace is just crazy and you should listen to me. Similarly, there are so many conservative media companies who
are run by former military intelligence. People that leave naval intelligence, people that lead the MSAD, uh suddenly
their aim is to speak about Judeo-Christian values. Uh you know, they find God after they they leave the
military. I'm not saying that that's impossible. I'm just saying that this is something that we have discussed a lot on this podcast. I have been suggesting
to you all that faith has been infiltrated by the military and people laughed. They laughed. Well, you guys
didn't laugh, but like, oh, what do you mean by that? Well, you guys pull up a chair because it's about to get even
more interesting. Fort Wuka, as many of you in the military have informed me, is
actually an intelligence base. Now for those of you who are ignorant like me regarding the structure of the military,
this is an important distinction to make in your mind because when we think about military bases, at least me, maybe you
can uh you have the same mindset. I tend to think about where they're scrambling
off the planes off of an air base if there's an attack, right? Oh, quickly jump into jump into your planes and get
into the air or maybe get into the sea. It just requires an immediate response. But that is not what Fort Wuka in
Arizona is. Okay? It is a hub for intelligence training. Civilians can be
turned into intelligence assets on this base. They can take courses to join the
intelligence community. Okay, just giving you one example of an email that I got. Quote, just FYI, Fort Wuka is
where soldiers go for their MIT courses. That is Army military intelligence. Once
a soldier has finished basic training, they go here for their advanced training for their actual job in Army military
intelligence. End quote. Okay. Now, among the many emails that I received regarding what sort of intelligence
courses take place, I was absolutely floored when a person who grew up and
lives just outside of the base in uh in
Sierra Vista told me something. I'm going to recount the story to you and I'm going to paraphrase a little bit of
this so that I protect their identity. Basically, their story begins in May of 2013. They are two recently baptized
Christians. Like I said, they grew up in this area, Sierra Vista, and they decided they were going to pour their savings into starting a gym. Now, of
course, because it's a gym that's located off base, they had a lot of clientele who happened to be associated with the base. And one such client uh
was a woman that they met, a couple that they met that were on fire for the Lord,
right? That couple uh made a sizable investment in their gym and became quote
unquote founding members. Okay, so the gym owners were drawn to this couple because they
were so bold in their faith. They were like, I I loved the bold proclamation of their faith and we thought this is
great. This this is going to work. they accept money from them. So, you can imagine that they were then completely
surprised and shocked when this couple over time effectively staged something
akin to a hostile takeover of their company, undermining them while pretending to be their friends, going
behind their backs, propositioning other gym members. I'm going to be clear here. This is obviously allegedly uh I'm going
to say allegedly allegedly allegedly here the couple almost lost everything in the process and they had to start all
over again. Now what was once the fastest growing gym in Sierra Vista
suddenly they were forced to relocate and downsize their company entirely. So now
it's 2015 they are in their new smaller location of a gym. And I'm going to read
this next portion of the email that I received verbatim. Again, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, because he names
an individual, an individual who I do not know. I have never heard of this individual, but I feel it is relevant
because I'd like to learn more. The email continues, quote, "We were struggling, sometimes barely making
rent, but still serving the community, including military students who came through for 4 to sixmonth training
courses." Okay, I want to stress that again. got all these students that are coming in and their training is lasting between four to six months. So, they're
signing up for this gym. Back into the quotation, um, one morning I noticed a female military military member
lingering after class. She was visibly distressed, so I kept the gym open longer than usual to give her space to
talk. We ended up conversing for about 45 minutes, and what she shared with me has stuck with me ever since. She said
she quote, "Could not take it anymore." When I asked for details, she explained that her stress was coming from a class
that she was taking on Fort Wuka, taught by none other than Bruce Bevans. My ears
perked up when I heard his name as I immediately remembered the incident with his wife. This young woman described
Bruce as quote, "The most evil man that she had ever met." She then revealed something that I wasn't expecting at
all. The class's objective was to teach military personnel to infiltrate
Christian groups and organizations through covert psychological operations.
The training focused specifically on deceiving Christians. At the time, I didn't fully connect the dots. Our gym
was and still is an openly Christian faith-based organization. But looking back now, I have to wonder if the infiltration and the destruction of our
gym was actually a training exercise or field assignment. I also wonder if the distressed young soldier was sent to our
gym on assignment from Bruce, but couldn't follow through with her objectives and instead chose to confide
in me. There were other students who will corroborate this type of training. Two military students, both named blank
and blank, I'm redacting that passed through our gym during this same period. They shared similar stories but seemed
much more advanced in their training. On one occasion after I asked what was so funny in the back of my class, they
privately shared that they had just returned from an overnight field training mission with very little sleep. Their objective had been to deceive
civilians in Tucson about an hour north of us. They practiced at local bars and public venues on unsuspecting people,
telling lies, remembering those lies, and maintaining their false personas without quote unquote breaking
character. They laughed about their conquests while working out at our gym. Now, I got the impression that their deception sometimes extended to sexual
encounters with their targets. At the time, I found this disturbing, but I did not know what to make of it. Now, 12
years later, and watching the situation unfold with Charlie Kirk and learning that some of his most trusted people may have been trained operatives who
infiltrated Turning Point USA, these memories suddenly seem significant. You mentioned previously that there was a
strange military background connection among some of the people involved. I am now wondering if instructors like Bruce
Bevven trained some of these individuals before they infiltrated Christian organizations like Turning Point USA.
End quote. Now, I obviously cannot confirm just yet. I'm sure after the show we're going
to get a bunch of emails the allegations against Bruce. Again, I have never heard of this individual. What I can say to you is on a guttural level, I feel this
is accurate. I do. It is what I have noticed. It's what I've been pointing to you all year. Many of these pastors are
behaving like operatives and many of these Christian influencers are behaving like operatives. And I keep telling you
that all roads including the Egyptian here Israeli uh planes lead to the front
door of Turning Point USA. Faith I kept saying there's something when faith suddenly infiltrated and something
happened to this organization and I feel this email is a big piece of the puzzle.
Okay. So, if you played a part in these exercises on Fort Wuka base where you
were learning instructions about how to be a good little Christian to infiltrate and potentially to overthrow a Christian
organization and maybe you're having some second thoughts about your soul and you'd like to speak to me about it off
record, please email more tips at candacewowens.com. And I would also like you all to
remember that we suddenly have been experiencing wallto-wall panic ever
since we mentioned Fort Wuka. You saw this. It's I mean the articles right now are unhinged. They are they are just
doing fiction. The panic button was pressed when we mentioned Fort Wuka in
the alleged meeting that happened on the morning of September 9th. So we're going to get into that. By the way, for those
of you that thought that this person was making it up, he was uh apparently not familiar with metadata. I don't think he
was. And he had not sent me the photos that he took that morning on the base. So, he tells a story. I stepped outside.
I got coffee. Well, because he thought he was going to write, and I'm laughing here, going to like write the wrong of
his past. He was sort of documenting himself while he was on the base. So, he sent sends me over all this stuff and I
literally was able to confirm with the metadata uh where he was, exactly what time it was and see the background
obviously and it's just a fact. Okay, it's just a fact that this this happened. He was there. I was also able
uh to establish it because now this is like beyond a reasonable doubt. Now, when we get back after this brief break
from our sponsors, we are going to bring on and this is his new name, Mitch. I'
I've told you about who he believes he stumbled upon in that meeting and I think that we need to focus on that and
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My interview with Mitch and what he saw at Fort Huachuca.
What can I say other than the fact that I do just feel on a spiritual level that
we have been infiltrated? I'll ask a broader question. Are all of our lives a bit like The Truman Show? Do we have
essentially a cast of characters who are performing and pretending and this is
what kind of made everybody go crazy after the Turning Point USA event where Tucker asked the question, where does
this guy's money come from? I mean, obviously Barry Weiss is one of these actors. This is clearly an act. You
obviously are not intelligent. You obviously are not some journalist that worked their way up and broke some
important stories. You are obviously an intelligence op, a not so intelligent
op. Like, are all are we living in the Truman Show? Are we all going to work thinking that we can climb a ladder when in reality these people are just
selected and given certain uh there were supposed to be certain characters.
You're supposed to pretend like you're a head of a tech company and you're supposed to be super weird and quirky.
I'm going to cast you into that role and then we're going to call you a genius and you're supposed to pretend that
you're this super financial guru like a Jeffrey Epstein and we're going to put
you at the head of a finance company. You know, you have no background in this. That's kind of the theme that I'm
seeing. Anyways, I don't want to waste too much more time because I do want to bring on Mitch who apparently has what I
would describe as I don't know if it's the best or the worst luck ever in life
stumbling upon the feds when they're maybe up to no good. Mitch, welcome to
my podcast. It's so great to have you here. It's wonderful to be here, Candace. How are you doing?
I'm doing very well. I uh I obviously you know the story of how I instantly got the email from one of your friends
that just said, "You should call Mitch after I prayed and said, "I'm missing a piece of this. Please, God, give me a
piece of the story." And the first email I see when I get back from church on a day of holy obligation is this email.
And so Mitch, my audience is up to date on what happened to you when you were 20
years old. And I'm wondering if you can just sort of briefly recap in case I got some things wrong.
Oh wow. Briefly recap 35 years. Sure. Um
yeah, we uh we were part of a mission going down to um down to the border JTF6
assigned from 10th Mountain. Um previously there had been a Marine Corps
uh unit there. Um apparently they had an incident. We had to replace them. uh and
they wanted a less less kinetic unit to um be involved. So we went down there in
a matter of a few days, you know, and I was the youngest guy on the team. And for the first few days, I I got assigned
to um have to, you know, do the hard work of putting in the sensors and
following one of the border patrol who was on a uh he was on horseback. got to
learn a little bit about um picking up signs in the desert, stuff like that while we were placing these sensors down. Um it took a few days. Um I think
we put in like 80 sensors or so along the border and uh we were getting some they thought it
was some glitch signals coming back. Um, being that I had just gone through the
course, I had the most updated information and um, what we realized is they weren't uh,
they weren't glitched signals uh, that these people were being sent out for. Um,
it was uh, subterranean. And once
when I got pulled back uh to the JTF6 headquarters,
they were in discussions of of trying to remove the army. Um, in case your
viewers don't understand, when units get put together like this, especially this mission, um, there's a
lot of contention even to this day between the army and, uh, Border Patrol and who gets to take credit, and who
gets to stay, who gets to go. And back then, um,
Border Patrol, I I think they just wanted us out of their hair.
Um, so they were having some sort of a big meeting. Um, and a big do not
disturb meeting and uh I got assigned to the skeleton crew to sit back on the SMS
uh um excuse me, the receiver. Um, and I was looking at the data while
the skeleton crew of the border patrol was left there with me as well. and he
was giving me a bad time about the army equipment and how they were being sent out for for no reason and he kept giving
me a bad time about it. So, uh, we were looking at the data and we started discussing things and and I brought up
the fact that, you know, you know, I asked if there was any subways or something like that around
and between the two of us, the light bulb went on that um, yeah, it was a
yeah, it was an underground tunnel and within minutes we could triangulate the
uh, triangulate the signals and be able to pinpoint the location and that's the
information I got to hand off. So, no, I didn't, you know, like go on the raid itself. Um, handing that information off
was was the probable cause they needed to be able to go get a warrant, go to
the location, um, and also communicate with the Mexican authorities on the
other side to uh, perform a raid. And, uh, yeah, that's what that's what
happened. Now, um, you're thinking, amazing. We have found
the biggest cartel tuttle. Uh, there there had never been one bigger previously discovered. I I presume maybe
there had been. I'm And there I don't know. I'm just I'm going to become a hero. Maybe you're thinking this is
going to be great. And the exact opposite thing is true. And it's because they eventually find pictures of well,
uh, was it an American lieutenant colonel? Who who exactly? Sorry, you I know you told me this. Was it a colonel?
One of the commanders that was um with the border patrol um was actually
posed with a photo um that was found on the Mexican side um after the tunnel
apparently had been built um along with other Mexican military and and US
military. So there had been some collaboration uh prior to us getting there. There had been some a lot of
suspicion that uh the federal government knew that 80%
I think it was 60 to 80% of the cocaine was coming through the Douglas, Arizona area. That's basically region six or
that's why they called it JTF6. Um so they knew all the cocaine's coming
through this one area. Um but the local authorities back then, you know, came up
with shrugs like, you know, oh, we just don't see where it's coming from. So they suspected there was some
uh there was some you know compromise of of officials down there. Um
so yeah we we went to work and and it didn't take us long to pinpoint this.
Um, so when they recovered that data and they recovered the photos, obviously u
they had some of the top names of of who was helping out on the US side to
help build the tunnel and also keep it functioning for at least 6 months. Uh, judging by the date on the photo.
So I just wanted to ask you your attachment to because I'm trying to figure out why you're going to then go
back to Fort Wuka. Is that where you were initially trained? Um, yeah, I was. Yeah.
Fort. Okay. So, you were initially trained at Fort Wuka. What then ends up happening is they put you, you
basically, you're not allowed to talk. You just get gagged for, is it 25 years the gag order lasted while they
destroyed every layer of your life, fed your name to the cartels. You've been on the run. You've had to change your name.
Your family is now in debt. You've been fighting lawsuits trying to get um the government to, I guess, defend you
against the cartel gangs. And clearly they're angry because you stepped on
their toes. It looks like I think that's a fair depiction uh of what happened here which we are learning more and more
how corrupt and our I think the CIA was created to traffic to be clear. That's that's my opinion there. But you they
effectively destroyed your life and gagged you in in the process. Is that a fair assessment of what happens next?
Yeah, it is. Um, I could probably go into some detail that uh while we were down there,
you know, I got to uh got the honor of incinerating all the uh
uh it was about a ton of cocaine. It was and bunch of guns, bunch of money. Um,
and then right afterward, we went right back to work and I ended up getting approached with a friend at uh NOA,
Arizona. Um, not a friend, but another Border Patrol agent. And if it wasn't
for him, I I was too stupid. I didn't understand why this person was coming up or why they had personal information on
me. I I was a young kid. Um it was the Border Patrol agent that caught what it
was about and um yeah, thank God. Uh he he knew what to do. Um took me back to
base and they thought it was, you know, something I did uh to give away my identity. Uh so I was on base for uh it
was the next day that I got brought into a briefing and by that time um the photos from the Mexican side had
made their way to the American side and they were able to put together how my information got got fed um to the other
side. As far as cartels and stuff like that, I you know
it's just plain corruption at this point. It's it's and it's thick and
yeah, they have followed me. Um there's been I've had people come through my
windows. Um and it's not like I know these are
it's like fantastical stories. We got the court documents. We got the we got the court cases. Um
you've sent them to It's not just that we have those. It it's that uh the work that was done to
even try to bury those afterward. Um it's pretty substantial and yeah I've
got 20 years of this and you'd think you know one would think that u somebody in the federal government would care um or
in any part of our government would care. Uh the more I've gone up the chain to try and u
you know get more of these records as well as get answers
uh to this saga. Um it just seems like I step on more and
more toes and eventually that's what led me to going down to Fort Wuka was just to get the original records and find out
you know why wasn't the FBI updated as to what my status was and you know why
has this been allowed to um yeah basically use our own laws against
me to attack my life. Um I feel I wanted answers.

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When I hear the story, it makes me it makes me so angry because it's just too many people that are serving our country only to figure out that our
country is serving some other, you know, the interests of oligarchs truly. And I think we're kind of all coming to that moment right now and recognizing that it
hasn't been left or right. It has been them, the a unique gang of oligarchs and criminals that are running every aspect
of our lives. And um they would gladly have you die for them and could they they couldn't care less. I want to pivot
now. So you you're uh they put you there's this gag order or you know
non-disclosure agreement and it is 25 long years and it happens to 35 pardon
me 35 years you're told yeah you can suffer the cartels can chase you change your name but you keep your mouth shut
about it and finally in May this of this year this this uh it expires right this
this gag order expires and you Say to yourself, I am going to go down to that base where I was trained. I'm going to
go down to Fort Huachuca, book myself into a hotel. I'm going to go to the criminal
division, investigative division. I'm going to get that original paperwork and get some answers to why my I feel that
my life has been effectively ruined for me having done what I was ordered to do by the government.
So, you get to the base, and I want you to address this because there were so many people who were like, "There's no
way you could have gotten on to the base. Obviously, you sent me your military cards and I think we can show a picture of that. You get onto the base
and I want you to walk us through what time and I did show a timeline, but a bouch, you know, you don't have to be perfect here. We already showed a
timeline, but like you get to the base and just kind of what's your general mood and this is on September 8th, the
evening of September 8th at the Candlewood Inn and Suites, which you have given me all the documentation for.
Okay. Yeah. And um getting into Tucson, there
was a little bit of a issue getting the rental car and stuff. So that took a little while, a little bit of a delay,
but we made reservations ahead of time for me to be there. And um yeah, I get
down to the base. For those that think that uh people can't get on base, no, typically you can as long as you have
your your ID, your insurance, and you have a purpose for being there. Um I
certainly did. Uh, you can show that documentation as he's speaking. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Yeah. Um, so yeah, we made made reservations and
uh I got to the hotel. I had uh it was sort of hard to find, but once I found it, I sort of recognized it because it
was uh that was actually the barracks that I had when I was there in AIT
training, but they converted it. So, uh yeah, that was pretty cool. All of a sudden, I'm staying in the same barracks. Um,
really nice place, by the way. Wonderful beds. Um, but yeah, I check in and as I'm doing
that, um, you can tell that there's regular, uh, military people, um,
uh, young kids that are there. Um, probably just checking into post, stuff like that.
Uh there were a couple people that that stood out and they're a little bit older and and um as I'm checking in, uh one
guy that was sitting on the couch he just had a sheen to him. Um looked
like he had a professional military sheen to him. If I had to guess um you know being a special forces guy
I would have guessed that he's ex special forces probably doing you know something down there probably contract
uh he was definitely waiting on something and age about just so we can get a
description age you know I'd say
30 33 to 40 about there give or take Um,
you know, I wasn't there to check out people, um, or check ID cards. Um, I
just happen to know him. And veterans, especially SF guys, when you notice somebody like that, I almost had the
impression so much so that I was going to go up and ask him what group he was with and say hi and thank him for his
service. I didn't really get that chance. So, as I'm checking in and then I go to my room and then come back out,
um he was joined and um
joined by a female that you can you can definitely tell when um how do you put
it? When people are well off and um
they're dressing down. Um she was definitely dressing down and
it was um very well-kept. Uh the one thing I noticed about the
woman that really stuck out to me was was her eyes and um
I have an ex that um has caused me a lot of problems. So, uh, when I see someone
with with, uh, striking blue eyes like that, they stick out. And, um, I even I
was on the phone, uh, with my, uh, with my wife here, and I even told
her about it. I said, "Oh, geez. Uh, somebody has those kind of eyes." Um, it
creeped me out a little bit, you know, and it had nothing to do with that person. I just,
you know, life is what it is. But as I was checking in, they um I was going to
go back and actually talk to that person, the the guy. And um
yeah, they between me at the front desk and then going back to my room one time
and then coming back out. I was going to go to dinner. Um yeah, they had gotten
into uh there was a vehicle parked out front. uh big green truck G it looked
like a real shiny GSA type. Um
and yeah, they were getting into that vehicle and and driving off. And that night I went to dinner at some a little
bit crazy. The people in Sierra Vista, they can probably verify there was a Mexican oh Mexican sushi place in Sierra
Vista. So, I got dinner and and um it was a pretty good place actually. Um and
then I came back and went to sleep that night, got up early the next morning, wanted to
see the sunrise. Uh reminisce about, you know, um yeah, there we go. Just
reminisce about having been there a long time ago. Um
and uh even stopped to talk to some of the police. They tried to give me directions to
to CD, but the buildings there are are uh they're sort of old World War II and
they're also built on top of the foundations of um like almost Alamo era
uh rocks and stuff and some of them aren't really well marked. So, um his
direction sort of led me off on a wild goose chase. And I'll interject here while you're
having a sip of water that this is when you accidentally take a video and it's 18 minutes long while this guy's giving
you directions which you've also you've sent everything over. So there's no question you were here and everything happened because you tried to document
this thinking you were going to get some justice from the past and and I I will let you continue telling the story.
Yeah, I was there to get help. Um, and uh, I was really figuring some
people would have a, you know, have some answers for me. Um,
I couldn't find C, but as I'm wandering around and I finally decide, you know, I need to get some coffee and wake up,
maybe have a little breakfast. Um, I noticed that there's some signs there that say JTF and uh, and JTF
headquarters. I went in a couple of the buildings. There was nobody there yet. So, I
continued on. I went and got coffee. Ran into some 10th Mountain people there. Um, they said they were there for JTF.
Um, you know, we we sort of talked. I bought them coffee, I think, for their service.
Uh, they sort of I asked where there would be a headquarters that I could go to to to speak to someone. They tried to
explain it to me. Um, I forget they gave me a building name. Uh, and I don't necessarily want to, we don't want to
disclose that kind of stuff, but uh, I went right back to the front gate
and as I came in, I as they scanned me in with my ID card, um, yeah, I asked
the gate guard there where, you know, where would this building be and how would I get there? Uh, he gave me
detailed instructions on how to get there, how to wind around to get to that building. And so I did. And um it was
obviously a a temporary setup for this new command down there. Um
there was no gate guard. There was uh I I think they did have some um
uh barb wire around the the field in the in the building, which made me hesitate
for a second, but there was a it was a parking lot. So um I I just went in and
parked. Um, I was on the phone with my MS here and
uh told her, you know, uh, we'll see how it goes. We'll see what they say here and I I'll I'll call you in a few. Um,
I ended up not being able to call it back for about seven hours. Um,
and you can being in the military for a while, you
notice when there's a lot of high ranking people around and you notice um when there's a little bit of a buzz and
I I walked in there, I didn't know if it if this was just a
new type of army uh that I haven't seen for a while. Um, but I walked up to the
front desk. I sort of told him what I wanted. I initially talked to one captain for about five minutes um and
then he stepped back out. He was going to go get someone. I stood there at the front and as I did um the guy that I
thought was an XSF guy um he had walked out from uh from wherever it was and he
was sort of walking out to the to the front doors and he stood there for a while waiting and then uh three more
people came came around silly dressed and one he looked like a congressman uh
had the pin, had the flag um you know congressman suit. Um, and there were a
couple of people next to him and obviously they were trying to talk to him and
uh they were sort of ping around. Um, but it was also sort of serious and um,
uh, some of the military lieutenant colonels there and the and the unit sergeant major escorted them out. Um,
they got into one of the GSAs. Um, for anybody in the military that knows about GSA, it it's the
they own everything in the government. Could you Sorry, for those of us who don't know about this GSA, just to to
break it down for us, I'm sorry to be so ignorant. What does that stand for? No. Uh, what was it? Government services
uh administration or Okay, I forget what it is. No worries. Um what they they basically
maintain all the property for the U for the federal government. Okay. Um
so if you're in the military or if you're in federal government and you
need a vehicle, uh basically you you go to one of the GSA places and it's like renting a
vehicle at at Enterprise or something, but you have orders attached to it. Um,
some of those vehicles there, they're reserved. Uh, at any GSA where they have VIPs that come in,
for those in the know, they they keep a reserve um set of vehicles and they're
extra shiny. They're they're like new off the lot. Um, you know, their tires aren't worn very
well. So, uh, they all got into one of those vehicles and they they left. The
sergeant major came back in. Him and I was I was teasing him about his tabs and how he didn't have his long tab and uh I
think he had a Ranger tab and airborne or no, he didn't have airborne, he had airs assault. Anyway, uh I was teasing
him about some of that. Um was supposed to go back and talk to him. I was finishing signing in when um yeah, a
couple more captains came around the corners and they escorted me way out. Um they wanted to take me out of the
building. I thought I was getting arrested and I didn't know what I had done wrong. Uh
yeah, I'd given my name, uh the missions I had been attached to. Um
I given the purpose why I was there. Uh, so and I was very polite about I was
trying to be discreet as possible and um I had no idea what I was walking
into. Obviously, you know, when congressmen are around, there's something special going on.
Uh, but yeah, they escorted me out across the parking lot to the park benches there and uh me, one of the
captains there, his name was Captain Nef. Um, nice guy. Um,
yeah. And I I started telling him my story, what I'm telling you, and and what I was there for. Yes, that's the
guy. Um, real decent gentleman. Um,
and as we sat there, the other captain went in uh was going to get the Sergeant Major, and
uh I don't know what exactly what happened, but uh before long, there was
bunch of cruisers pulling up. There were police officers from different levels of the government. Um, I couldn't tell you
all the different types of of um, law enforcement that were there uh, surrounding me and sort of putting up a
wall between me and and the front door. Um, I did catch that there was yet
another I don't know if it was the same GSA vehicle returning or a different
one, but that did pull up to the building. Uh, I couldn't see who got in it. And um
it ended up sort of a big deal. They kept interrogating me uh trying to gaslight me, ask me if I what I was
there for, like I was some sort of a spy. Um I Yeah. And then they mentioned
a bomb threat. They wanted to check my vehicle. Uh mentioned that because I was in
special forces, uh obviously I must be some sort of a bomb threat. And for me,
I I just figured uh this had to be some sort of the false
flagging that uh that I've encountered from before. Um
some sort of residual effect from that. So you're just thinking, you know, this has got something to do. This has been
35 years running. The government's corrupt. It's all about me fighting this cartel tunnel and this is just going to
be the story of my life never getting any justice. That's what's going through your mind. Yeah. At this point, yeah, people, you
know, people in the government start pointing guns at me. my house been squatting and stuff like that. I I just
rolled my eyes. Um I literally Sorry.
I was just throwing my car keys out. They wanted my car keys. I I chucked it over and said, "Yeah, if you don't mind,
park it closer cuz my bones are getting old and it hurts. I don't want to walk that far." Um
so sad. So, Captain Nef was really nice. And um I asked him what this was about. He he
tried to shrug it off and say he didn't know. There was another lady that seemed to be uh conducting the
what this overreaction was. Um and she was defin you know she was in
plain clothes undercover big sunglasses Hispanic woman.
Um but you know if I had to guess probably secret service or something like that.
Uh she didn't want to approach me directly. She was she was directing how
other people would approach me and ask me questions, get my documents, stuff like that. Uh eventually they said,
"Okay, we're going to take you to another location." They took me to uh they finally showed me where the C
building was, I guess. Um put me in there and they recorded me for a while.
um asked me a few questions and were they were very
very concerned about the next 24 hours like they wanted
they wanted to make sure I don't know maybe that I wasn't there for some other purpose or related to something.
Um it was it was pretty odd. Um they didn't answer
any of the questions I was there for. Uh they didn't give me the documentation they wanted. They did give me a report
number to go ahead and you you went ahead and I gave that to you. You did. Uh we'll see what that says. But um
yeah, they were looking for any excuse to try and um
hold me up for like 24 hours. And that 24-hour number kept getting repeated u
by them. And then eventually they didn't have anything to hold me. I wasn't a harm to myself or others. I wasn't there
to, you know, spy on anybody. Um, I really just wanted to get records and
and get out of that desert. Um, as reminiscent as it was, the place
creeps me out a little bit. So,
uh, yeah, once they said you have to stay off base for 24 hours, I was,
"Don't worry about it. I ain't coming back." Um got to Tucson, stayed the night there
in a hotel. Um never got a refund on my Candlewood Suites. Uh but um
yeah, got on the plane and um before we touched down, I had a stop off
in Salt Lake City. By the time we wheeled down that, you know, we got the news about Charlie Kirk. Um,
and of course that's been just all over the all over the um all over the news.
Everybody's watching it. And um you know I I don't think anybody's
believing what the federal government's saying about it for sure. But
uh what I noticed um I don't know these people from TP USA.
um never been associated. I could recognize Charlie Kirk probably,
but um what I started seeing come across and got more familiar once I saw a
picture of somebody in a ponytail with those eyes,
that was that person. They were there. And um
yeah, the head of security there, he was one of the people walking out with the congressman.
Now, how would I know that? I I just I just
have a gift for recognizing people. And
yeah, maybe it's not him. Maybe as doppelganger, but somebody with the same mannerisms,
the same crick in his neck, face, waxy look on his face,
hand gestures, uh, shoulder shrug, gate, approximate height, haircut
definitely walked past me. Um, and
you had to put it at a percentage that you were looking at Brian Harpole. Maybe he's got a brother in the military. Who
knows, right? Maybe he does have a doppelganger. He's got a twin brother. Who knows? And I want to be clear, I can
confirm on this podcast live every step of your story in terms of where you went, what time you were there. Um that
there was this big meeting that happened. I confirmed a location with other people that are that are on uh Fort Wuka currently. I can confirm
everything with metadata. Um I obviously can't confirm that you saw who you say
you saw. If you had to put it at a percentage that you saw Brian Harpole,
what percentage would you put it at? 95. 95%. Okay. 95 to 99. I
when I saw him, you know, on the interview with the with his face and
gestures, um I Yeah. with that photo,
it struck me in my gut. Um,
I blew it off until there was,
you know, some other pictures that came up with other people. Um, what other people? Other pictures.
Uh, if you want me to say it, there's a picture of Erica Kirk with a
ponytail and um from from her past.
That person matches who I saw at Fort Wuka in the lobby the night before and
she was with that with that man in the lobby and that man he was present at
that meeting uh the next morning. So if you had to put it at a percentage
that you saw that the girl in the ponytail matches the description of Erica Kirk, what percentage would you
put that at? Those are really rare eyes.
Um, that's 95 to 99%. I I
I can't imagine somebody else. Okay. So, what I'm going to say because
obviously this that's very explosive and it's it's one of the reasons why I wanted I wasn't sure if I wanted to have
you on. And I'm going to be honest with you because I gosh I mean I guess I'll tell you the
conflict that I had and just be just as honest with you as as you are being with me. The first thing was I can't confirm
it, right? I can confirm where you were. I can do all of that and but I I can't confirm what you what you think you saw. I don't know you. Um I don't know there
are people like my husband who we can see someone once and he recognizes that person 10 years later exactly where we saw them and there are people like me
and I kind of have facial blindness until I meet someone three times. The second thing was I didn't want people to
wrongly extrapolate things and say, "Okay, well, maybe she was on the base.
Maybe she w there's a chance she wasn't on the base, right? That she has a doppelganger. People do have doppelgangers. I have doppelgangers,
right?" Um, but let's say she wasn't the base. Let's say you're right and you saw her. This is the night before. This is
on the ETH. Maybe she was in the hotel, but maybe she was there for a different reason. Maybe she was there because
she's always been open about the fact that her mother moved to Arizona because she got involved with the military. So that could be totally unrelated to the
meeting that took place on the 9th and I didn't want to. But then I I I said to
myself, I am this man has lived through so much. You know what I mean? This man has lived through so much and I would be
turning my back on this really a hero discovering the cartels who's lived
through so much and has been treated like the government. And then I I struggled with my own soul going, I'm turning my my back on him because I'm
afraid of backlash for allowing him to tell the truth. And so and and my soul
was in conflict. And I decided that you know what, I am not this is not my
platform. Okay? I I genuinely believe this is God's platform. I am a conduit. I don't know why I have a platform. And
I don't know why you have this luck in life. I really don't. I don't know why these things happened to you or why they
happened to me, but I know that my my prayer was very intentional that night uh that I received that email. So, I'm
going to allow the internet to hear your testimony, hear what you think. And I
also want to show them a picture because we did look through some congressmen and I didn't tell you where they were congressman from, but there is one that
you thought looked familiar. Uh and I am going to show that picture of him now. Uh, this is and Skyler, someone's got to
get in my air because I'm blanking on his name. Mark, is that right? Mark from Las Vegas. And
you thought that this could potentially be the congressman that you saw on the ninth. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That's the one that walked closest to you. That's 95. I'm absolutely, you know, after I've looked at it, um, that's
Yeah, that was definitely the guy. Okay. Now, we have then been able to look at
flights and look at who could have been at that meeting. We were able to confirm based on a call sign that there was
somebody heavy duty that was at Fort Wuka Air uh Fort Wuka, pardon on that
morning who uh made sure to turn off their transponder. So we are the clues the picture is coming together that you
saw what you saw then that call sign did change at a certain time which lets us know that then it could have been moved
to a congressman. There could be a chance that that person they were blocking you from seeing when they all
lined up might have been someone that is it could be Cash Patel. I mean I have it
could be Cash Patel. That's someone who could have a call sign running ideas. It could also not be him. Uh and I I want
to be clear. I do think you saw I think I think that is the reason they surrounded you was to make sure you couldn't see who was walking out. I
think your instincts are right on that and I don't know what to say other than I
know what you are going to go through now and I want you to know that you have
an ally with me and I know how much you are already going through fighting them and I intend to help you raise money uh
to go through these lawsuits with the federal government. I know this is not easy. I know what your kid has been through. I know what your wife has been
through and no one should have to be through this, have to go through this because they told the truth and potentially stumbled upon something
corrupt, did definitively uh stumble upon something corrupt. And I think the
public will be with you because they see what I'm going through right now uh being sued by a transatlantic
president overseas for just trying to tell the truth. And um I just want you to know that like I know that this is
hard for you and given everything you've been through, but like I am here with you. I'm going to to fund raise money
for you and I'm here for you and your family through whatever comes next.
Oh boy, that's really wonderful. I I um and I've told you thank you.
I'd like to see justice. I'd like to see our I'd like to see our government being
honest again or some some level.
I don't know why I was there or why I got to see what I did or or how I happened to walk in on
something. I wasn't there to, you know, obviously I didn't know what was going to happen the next 24 hours.
It seems coincidental that that was the number they kept bringing up and
whatever they were doing, it was important and they didn't want any anybody looking at it. And okay, the
military does that stuff. That's that's what they do. I
thank you, you know, for everything, but really after hearing some of the other stuff,
hearing about some of the threats against you and I and I do I watch some of the other podcasters, Valhalla, um
really good guy, even if he he gave me a bunch of bunch of crap about stuff. Um fellow
brother there from First Group. Um, no, he he had uh
when he interviewed the French Foreign Legion, he and he got to learn a little bit about sometimes how in the
intelligence world how things cross over and other countries are a little bit
dirtier and they borrow resources from us. Um, for Wuka is one of those places they would have to have done that.
And when I I had I had to pray myself and be on I I tried to I just wanted to
give I just wanted to give you a tip. Uh since you're pulling on these threads
and I had no idea that you were going to do all this. Uh-huh. I want you to know there there were
there were literally 51,000 emails unanswered in that box
and I went to church and I prayed and I said, "Give me something." And I it was
it was the first email just like I said to you. I mean I what did I call four minutes after the email was sent and it
was actually me. I didn't send it to like my producer. I was just like, "Hey, maybe maybe this is it." And I I can't
help but to see God in in that. And and not, you know, God as in people being trained in intelligence to make us think
that everything is holy, but rather truly I saw God in that. And um yeah, just it just it's it's stunning. It's
it's hard not to see God in something like that happening in that order. So um I don't know what comes next, but I just
want you to know that like you have an ally in me and I I will I'm a I hope you see that I am a fighter and when I see
good people and bad things happen to them, I will fight. And same for the people that watch this podcast. They are
they are they are fighters as well. So, and they've had my back and they will have your back. I promise you that.
I really appreciate that. There are a lot of people in the military who um we
see things. I'm sure there's people down at Fort Wuka and other places that have seen things and and um there's a lot of
people that stay quiet to stay nice to to you know um not be in conflict. and
I had to pray. Um, this doesn't help
this doesn't help my situation at all. It's going to aggravate it. I'm absolutely sure. And, um,
but the truth matters. And, um, that's why we wanted to send this up to
you. We had no idea all of a sudden you'd be calling us. U, that was
You really interrupted our gym time, by the way. and we really need it. Um,
typically I try to laugh things off quite a bit, but things are getting quite serious and uh, I think Baron
Coleman, he gets it. Um,
keep pulling those threads and I hope stay safe and same to you. And, um, like I said, I
I'm going to put together a fundraiser for you um, you know, imminently. So, and this is obviously it's just the
first conversation we're having. Uh, I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart, not not just for for sharing what happened, and I do believe
you are missing piece of this. I also want to thank you for your service. I want to thank you for trying to do what
our government should be doing, which is stopping the cartels and not partnering with them. And so, just to thank you for
your military service and all that you've gone through. Thank you, Miss H. Thank you, Candace.
Thank you. We will say thank you also. Thank you guys.
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the website. But what I'm going to say to you instead is that I will get together a give andgo for Mitch and his family. Um, like I said, I've seen
illegal paperwork. He they they've endured hell. They've endured hell and he's been enduring that hell because he did his job. It sickens me. Our
government sickens me. people telling me that I need to worry about midterms when there's just so much corruption that is
happening um and good men that are being persecuted while bad men are being protected. Uh so I wanted to just
basically say that you if you look on my socials I'll make sure that I get a uh fundraiser out for Mitch and his family
and hopefully we can help them with some of the legal costs that they have endured. Curbster writes, "We stand behind you,
Mitch, and your family just as much as we stand behind Oh, we stand behind you, Mitch, and your family just as much as
we stand behind Candace. Thank you for your service and continued bravery and resolve despite our government not doing
the same for you. May God continue to protect you and use you to reveal the truth." That's very I'm sure that's
going to make them cry. I know that they were in tears from all the messages of support that they got uh the first time
around when I when I just shared their story. Meline writes, "Thank you, Candace, for keeping me sane these last hundred or so days. I still cannot
believe that Charlie is not among us, but um thank you for trying to find who really did this to him and for helping
us all get through it. Like I said, this feels like the like there's nothing more important than getting to the bottom of
this because the implications are so far reaching. And for me, it is I I I just
have I don't care about politics anymore. I just don't care. Uh and I do believe that our government was involved
in this. our government is involved in the cover the cover up and the people that would have to okay that would be
the very people that Charlie fought for uh he fought for them to get into office
sleepless nights fighting for those people to be in office and so like I said over and over again I don't care about your midterms I just don't care
about your midterms I want to know who killed Charlie Kirk and I want to know why I want to know why he had to die
Martin Box writes thank you for being my compass throughout the last few months and helping me to gauge right from wrong
Christ is king indeed Indeed, Christ is king. Bitsy Figarino writes, "I recognize the psychological religious
operation going on since Trump was elected. It's been wild to watch. Christ called us to be peacemakers. I would
like to help with pre-born. I'm in Arizona and I'm also an ultrasound tech. They know they will know us by our love.
Please reach out to Preborn. They do fantastic work and you are right to recognize that." They were also
gaslighting us about that. And I'm I was saying like there are so many of these people that have
very high up military and military uh military connections who are have these
platforms and all they do is they focus on the Bible and I'm telling you there's something wrong. There's just something
that is wrong. And you can kind of see the mask slip now because these people purport to care about what happened to
Charlie and the easiest thing is to demand truth and instead they're protecting people like Josh Hammer. This
is like such an obviously bad person. he lied and they'll go out of their way to protect those individuals. That's a
psychological operation. That's not the truth. And it's actually in many ways the most sadistic of all psychoper
psychological operations because what they're doing is they are asserting themselves as the we are the most
literate in scripture. So we can tell you whether or not your soul is going to be condemned uh if you listen to this
person or or you don't listen to this person. It it is uh it makes me sick. Like I said, I hold the most contempt
for those that hold up the Bible as they criticize people knowing fully well that
they could care less about what's in the Bible and they just want to take swipes and attack somebody and feel justified
in doing it. It's so it's so arrogant. Uh and it's I think it's also tremendously evil because there are
people that follow you and they are true Christians. Namarie Valamar writes, "Those who have
been watching every single episode would not abandon ship. Do not lose hope, but place your trust in Christ alone. The
Holy Spirit will bring discernment. That is true. And I think that's what this has been the story of. We all have spiritual discernment. Right? We are
feeling things on a spiritual level. And we are having people that think they can replace our spirit with garbage and just
like, well, enough of us will say this and then it will be true. We'll just keep saying Tyler Robinson. We'll just keep saying the evidence is overwhelming
and we'll somehow hijack the spirit. And and this time we're saying no. Ivan writes, "The more haters, the more we
know that you are on on track. Go Max Candace. Again guys, I'm going to jump off because we are over time here, but
uh you will be hearing more from me on my socials. I will put up a g send go for Mitch and his family. Uh we will
obviously be giving in a big capacity and I hope that you guys will join me in doing that. We'll see you guys tomorrow.
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What Does Ben Shapiro Know About Erika Kirk And Fort Huachuca? | Candace Ep 283
Candace Owens
Dec 19, 2025

Ben Shapiro has a little rant at AmericaFest, Tucker Carlson says no to "deplatforming", and we continue to look into Fort Huachuca.



Transcript

Start.
All right, you guys. Happy Friday. Well, I just want to start by saying, guys, pretty obvious that Ben Shapiro is
terrified. We can all see that now that uh Charlie Kirk is dead. He seems to be
taking uh multiple stages and demanding an allegiance to Erica Kirk. In fact, it
almost seems like he's demanding that nobody uh inquire further about Erica Kirk. It's odd because Ben had no
allegiance to Charlie Kirk when he was alive. So, what is it about Charlie's widow in particular that is inspiring
his very public nervous breakdown? Personally, I think he knows something about her. That is what I am sensing
that he knows something about Erica Kirk. And every time he speaks, I grow more certain that Israel might be
involved with 910. So, let's keep investigating. Welcome back to Candace.
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Little Benny's breakdown.
You know, Ben Shapiro just keeps calling my name out on stage. He's calling for me. He's calling for me. And I'd like to
show up for him today. Okay. Last night, he hit the stage at Turning Point USA's Amfest the other night. And I'd like
first and foremost just to let you all know. Some people noticed that he wasn't on the Amfest list for years. Now all of
a sudden he's back on the speaker list beginning in 2024. I want to let you know how that actually happened. So the
story goes obviously that in 2024 Ben fired me in March. Well, uh he would say
management fired me. But firing me wasn't enough. He wanted to make sure my reputation and livelihood was also
destroyed. Of course, what happened thereafter is Charlie Kirk instantly came out and supported me because we
were like brother and sister, always supporting each other publicly. And then I showed you guys a few episodes ago
that we found out as I was going to speak in Dallas at their YWLS convention
that Ben had sent an intern who was going to ask me a question while I was
on stage, but we sort of rumbled this plan. And I called Ben out on stage. Ben
did not like that I called him out on stage. So he began working behind the scenes to have Jewish donors start
threatening Charlie to make sure that I wasn't invited to speak at year end because I was an anti-semite. This is
what Charlie told me. And instead he wanted to be invited. So he's just going to purchase a friendship, right? So he
comes at Turning Point USA and this is what was divulged to me from Andrew Kovat at the time willing to spend an
offensive amount of money to be a part of Amfest. Like I said, that was told to
me by Andrew Kovette directly because he wanted to say, "Look, like obviously, you know, we are totally Charlie's 100%
on your side there. This is like an offensive ad spent." I was like, "Take it. Take his money. I could care less,
obviously." And I knew that he was working with Barry Weiss to uh call and
put an article out saying that the donors, the people on the board of TPUSA want Candace gone. all of this petty
behindthe-scenes behavior because I called him out on stage. Okay, so quite literally this is the definition of
buying friends and influence and fame. Now, in case you're listening and
thinking, is Ben Shapiro actually capable of that level of pettiness? I'm going to tell you a story about Thomas
Soul. Yes, Dr. Thomas Soul of Stanford. The story begins in 2023, shortly after
October 7th. You know, Ben was sort of having another one of his open nervous breakdowns and he his audience just went
kaput. People just stopped watching his podcast because he was screaming at Americans that we needed to prioritize
Israel and people just didn't feel that way. Okay, it's not our country. I'm sorry that that happened to you, but why
why do Americans need to be screamed at about what's happening in the Middle East? Anyways, uh throughout this time,
Brian Mast had was wearing an IDF uniform in Congress and he basically
said that there's no such thing as an innocent Palestinian life. And when I saw this, as shared by Yashar Ali on X,
I responded and I said that genocidal language, no matter who shares it, is
always wrong. Genocide is always wrong is what I tweeted. And this caused an
emotional breakdown amongst amongst people who support Israel. I didn't think that was a controversial
statement. I thought that was sort of what we all believed in. Genocide is always wrong. Anyways, for Ben, he then
had some private event, probably at another Jewish donor's house, and
somebody caught him standing on a table insulting me over my genocide is always
wrong tweet. Take a listen to what Ben had to say. The the question was about
Candace Owens. I think her behavior during this has been disgraceful without
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my company. I think she's been absolutely disgraceful. I think that I think that her her faux sophistication
on these particular issues has been ridiculous. It's not f sophistication. It's ridiculous. Everybody can see the
moves that she's making and the things that she is saying and I find them disreputable. Disreputable. Disgraceful. She works at
my company. You can imagine that the internet went crazy because they wanted
me to respond to him. I can't believe this. They work together. They're colleagues. Somehow this gets leaked.
And I want to mention because it's very relevant that that was on the morning of November 14th. I was 6 days away from
giving birth. I was very heavily pregnant. Anyways, I wake up to this and
shockingly I'm not nobody from the Daily Wire steps in to manage the situation.
And as you can imagine, virtually every journalist, every person with a media
platform was contacting me to comment, to respond to me being insulted by someone. I'm about to give birth. I'm
being insulted and they're not getting anything from the Daily Wire. So, I am
obviously frustrated. I should you should also tell you I had no PR at this time. My PR was the internal PR at the
Daily Wire and it was very clear that their focus was on protecting Ben even
though he was the one who insulted me publicly because I said that genocide is always wrong. That is the genesis of
that statement. That's all I said. Obviously, I wanted to respond angrily
to the press. I wanted to hit back at Ben. Uh, and I guess you could sort of
say my perspective was an eye for an eye. But my husband, who is a better person than me, instructed me that
morning to instead take a deep breath, relax, okay? Don't think about what you're feeling in the moment. Uh, think
about how you're going to feel in the future. And he instructed me to instead read the Bible, Sermon on the Mount, the
Sermon on the Mount. And I read through it and he reminds me that everybody who wants a comment, they don't care about
me either, right? They're selling headlines. They want the clicks. They want the drama and I'm going to feed
into that. For what reason? For what reason actually am I going to give a comment and say something about Ben Shapiro? Blessed are the peacemakers,
right? Uh don't don't buy into this click culture. And so I tweeted that
actually my husband was right. I called for peace. I tweeted blessed are the peacemakers. And I made the mistake. I
guess it was a mistake that after I tweeted blessed are the peacemakers. And I'm thinking that I'm going to be
commended when I get back to work. like, wow, you really took the high road. I ended uh this biblical passage with
Christ is king. Christ is is the king. He's the only thing that matters. Obviously, Christ is king. Now, it was
just Tucker Carlson's luck that I had been slated to come on his news show the very next day. He had booked me six
weeks earlier. I got approval from Daily Wire. He booked me for November 15th. So, suddenly Ben gets on this table. He
insults me. It's trending all over Twitter and Tucker Carlson is going to be the first person to capture my
reaction to it. And when it came time, I kept up with the Peacemaker. I I decided
I made the decision to just take the high road. I said, you know, I don't want that to negatively impact uh how
people perceive the Daily Wire. There are great people there. I mean, I I wouldn't be proud on that, but I'm I'm not taking the bait here. I didn't say
anything snipy back at Ben because I didn't want to feed the mob. That was my honest perspective. my uh husband was
just right. And also, we're talking about a work colleague, right? Somehow
me taking the high road made him angrier. So, here's what he did. Elsewhere in my
interview with Tucker, he asks me who I look up to, who I like. And I told
Tucker the truth that it was my dream to meet Thomas Soul. That when I first got into politics, I read a ton of Thomas
Soul books. And I had tried many times to meet him and obviously he's aging but
I really looked up to Dr. Thomas Soul and and here's that clip with me and Tucker. Who do you listen to when you're
trying to figure out I mean some of the stuff comes at you so fast and you're talking almost every day or writing
almost every day. Um who do you read or listen to to try to make sense or bounce ideas off of?
You know I have been obsessed with Thomas Soul. Um, and everybody knows
that I am pretty much a Thomas Soul groupy. Everything he rewrites I read.
And it is because he finally he was a part of my awakening story into politics and made me focus on the economics which
is to say block out the noise and pay attention to the economics. Go backwards in history to understand where we are.
When has this worked? Oh, it's never worked. They're telling me that it's going to work into the future. And there's no evidence to support that.
So when Ben saw that, he decided Thomas Soul, hey, that's your dream. You love
Thomas Soul. He thought that was an opportunity to get even with me for
taking the high road after he insulted me on stage because he's deeply jealous
of Tucker Carlson for reasons that I cannot quite understand. Ben had his team reach out and schedule an interview
with Thomas Soul, which they paid for an offensive amount of money, I presume, to effectively purchase a black man who has
no idea what's going on. He's very old. It's in his 90s to hurt my feelings. Okay. Interview with Tucker is on the
15th. I think it premieres on the 16th. And Ben gets Thomas Soul, who he doesn't care about. I'm working at the Daily
Wire at this moment, and I'm about to give birth in three days. But this was supposed to be like an F you Candace for
taking the high road and saying that genocide is always wrong. That is what I mean when I say he is an incredibly
petty man. Okay, now we know how this ends. I then am fired. Fired not for
what I said, but for what they assumed that I meant and for trolls that I
didn't respond to. And I want to be clear, it is you can fire whoever you want. You really can if you're a
business owner. It's just that this was atypical in the fashion that it was done
right. It wasn't done in the way where you just say, "Okay, get out of here. It's not working." Instead, what they
decided to do was humiliate me in front of all of the other employees by rather
than having a conversation, sort of dramatically having me exit after doing
my show, not knowing that I was going to be fired. And then they had put together a stage in my studio and uh uh put up
clips of put together basically a whole package like almost like a high school play and conducted what I honestly when
I look back because it it recently leaked what happened at this quote unquote town hall. This is a slave
hanging. This is a slave hanging, right? Gather around. Everybody else is a slave and let me tell you how this one messed
up. gather around and watch us whip this person. This is literally how I feel
when I watch this, okay? And you'll know what not to do next. And here is a video
of the then CEO Jeremy Boring, which somehow Stephen Crowder got a hold of this week or last week or whatever. This
is just a portion of it. You should watch the entire thing, but because it really is something and ask yourself in your in your memory, do you ever recall
anybody ever being fired where 300 employees been joined? um
electronically. He was up on the screen too and just enjoyed watching me be humiliated where 300 employees are
invited down and shown a production of what this person did wrong. Okay. Well,
let's let's watch a little bit of this video. Candace made no statement at all in the days after Hamas terrorists raped,
murdered, and tortured over a thousand Israeli civilians, mostly Jews, some Americans. And then they took hundreds
more hostage. But then on October 28th of 2023, while anti-Israel protests were
raging in London, where Candace, I believe, was at the time, she reposted a video of the protests on X, commenting,
quote, "Interesting thing happening here. People are not accepting the media narrative about what's happening in the
Middle East, despite the insistent rhetoric from government officials." On November 3rd, she posted, quote, "No
government anywhere has a right to commit a genocide ever. There is no justification for a genocide. I can't
believe this even needs to be said or is even considered the least bit controversial, the state. There was only
one country on earth being accused of genocide at the time. Anti-semmites on X took to it immediately. They cheered at
what they rightly or wrongly interpreted as Candace smearing Israel. And Candace didn't rebuff their interpretation. But
when Dave Rubin came to the exact same conclusion as the anti-semite, only instead of cheering for Candace, found
it vile, and rebuked her, Candace quickly attacked, saying, quote, "What's amazing about this is that I didn't name
any country in this tweet. I simply stated that genocide is wrong always. This is not a controversial stance.
Interesting how you interpreted it." And then followed up with, quote, in short, if the blanket statement that genocide
is wrong upsets you in any way, then you need to check yourself. I said exactly what I meant and I won't be backing down
or apologizing or further clarifying this statement. Within 24 hours, Candace liked a post
calling Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a war criminal. Now, let's be clear. You're free to
disagree with Israel's conduct and you're free to oppose the Netanyahu government, but the idea that Israel is
committing genocide or that Netanyahu is a war criminal is just factually baseless. Unfortunately, Candice
routinely makes insinuations about Jews that both lovers of anti-semitism and haters of anti-semitism both agree is
anti-semitic. And in almost every one of these instances, Candace says nothing to the anti-semmites who cheer her and only
pushes back against those who disapprove of her comments. On February 28th of this year, Candace
just asking questions posted, quote, "Time to look into the history and profitering of pornography." Her replies
were immediately flooded with anti-semites cheering her for the question and providing the answer that they interpret her interpreted her to
meet the Jews. Once again, Candace did nothing to disabuse the anti-semmites of
their assumption. But when Anthony Coach came to the exact same conclusion, Candace pushed back saying, quote, "This
is utterly insane. I tweeted that porn is harming men in our society, and this person has interpreted that as an attack
on Jews. This is an example of clinical insanity. There is no other explanation.
I stand by all of those tweets. Pornography is harming men. We should
look into who profits off of pornography. Genocide is always wrong.
No matter which country calls for it, whatever. What was controversial about anything that I say? Now, I'm again
wanting you to these are my crimes. Just imagine 300 people being brought and
said like it's it's this is she said this and this is what we know. And then he goes into a diet tribe about the real
beating of Christ as king and he shows videos of Nick Fuentes which have nothing had nothing to do with me. I had
never even spoken I think only one time I had spoken ever to Nick Fuentes. Uh and it was pertaining to Kanye.
Yeah, that was it. But I'm showing you this because it's important for you to understand that
this has never stopped. I want you to imagine if you view yourself to be a slave owner and that slave not only
survives like this public whipping but that escapes and becomes successful. Uh
that's pretty much my relationship with Ben Shapiro since he's fired me because they have not stopped. They have not
stopped. I am talking about uh people working behind the scenes to call advertisers attempting to bankrupt me in
courts sending undercover interns to stalk me. He has issued thus far three
court proceedings, okay, for every solitary petty infraction uh against
things that I say. He's worked with Barry Weiss behind the scenes to have articles written about me. It is nonstop. I refer to this, just to be
clear, as legal abuse. It's legal abuse. And I have put up with a lot of it. I
have put up with the pettiness of even suing me because I interviewed a USS
Liberty survivor who mentioned your name as you pretend that you care about free
speech and debate. I've put up with a lot of it, but today I draw the line. I
draw the line with this miserable imp when it comes to Charlie Kirk. Okay,
don't try me on this, but you keep trying me on this. You are an imposttor, Ben. You're an imposttor. You pay to
pretend that you're friends, that you have a right to be on that stage because you get donors to pressure people
because you know Jewish people who can threaten to take money or you say, "I'm going to do an advertising spend. Here's
a million dollars. I'm sorry. You're dead." The entire world knows that you are an impostor. I mean, you're so
you're so much of a fraud that essentially what you do is you have people send around clips to grown men to
cheer you on, to pretend like the audiences love you. You staff audiences
with people that work for YAF who are told to explode into cheers when you hit
the stage because you don't have the confidence anymore to go out into the world because you know people see you
for what you are. And so it uh exactly what he did yesterday. We can now listen
to what this impostor said as he hit the stage. Charlie Kirk's organization, the
one that he built for debate. if you have a disagreement and he instructs people here in this speech to go after
me and Tucker Carlson, right? That's what he's going to do. He wants us deplatformed. So, he's going to attack
me. He's going to attack Tucker Carlson and he's going to attack Megan and Kelly because she's at the beginning of what
these people have put me and Tucker and Charlie Kirk through. Take a listen to a portion of what Ben had to say.
So if Candace Owens decides to spend every day since the murder of Charlie Kirk casting Spursions at TPUSA and the
people who work here who worked with Charlie every single day his best friends to cast dispersions at Mikey
McCoy and Andrew Kovvin and Blake Nef and Tyler Ber and yes at Erica Kirk and
to imply or outright claim complicity in a cover up over Charlie's murder to spew
absolutely baseless trash implicating everyone from French intelligence to
MSAD, to members of TPUSA in Charlie's murder, or a cover up in that murder,
then we as people with a microphone have a moral obligation to call that out by
name. So, no, Tucker Carlson, it is not an excuse to go silent on Candace's
targeting of TPUSA
or to mirror her [ __ ] lines of questioning because you love Candace personally. The same holds true of Megan
Kelly, a person I consider a friend, characterizing Candace as a young mother and thus shying away from condemning her
actions or fing about them. That is a non-starter. When Candace Owens says, "I
don't know." No, but I know that is [ __ ] and we are all more [ __ ]
for having heard it. Well, Ben, when it comes to you and having worked with you, I just know I
just know the tactics that you use to feain popularity in the public. I just know the amount of money that you are
willing to spend on advertising to inflate your numbers to make people think that you're popular. So, yeah, I
don't have to say we don't know no when it comes to you. You are such a joke of
a little man. Your jealousy against Tucker, your ability to believe that you can keep manipulating the markets. You
know, those kids booed you on that stage. The amount of messages I got from Turning Point USA, people saying, "What
is happening? Why is he on this stage standing against everything that Charlie believed in?" That's what you're doing.
You're standing against everything that Charlie believed in because you weren't his friend. He didn't like you for that
very reason. Look at you and I just think you are such a little worm. I
could see you right now probably. What can we get out to her? We're gonna sue her into bankruptcy again. Right. Sue
her for every infraction, every word that I don't like and every time my feelings are hurt because what you
really believe in is bal. That's what that's what your people believe in. You
believe that you are contract lords and that people are not allowed to violate contracts or you will ruin them for
years. You fire someone and you effectively stalk and harass them for
years after. I'm here to let you know that I'm done with it. I am done with it. This one is so fully
off of the mother effing plantation. Truly, Ben Shapiro, [ __ ] you and the [ __ ] horse that you rode in on. And I
say that on behalf of the world. I know you're going to get applauded by Constantin and Andrew Christis King
Claven and all of the people, the men who have to keep applauding what you do like you're a four-year-old to make you
feel good. But the rest of the world can't stand you. You're obnoxious. You have absolutely no values that exist
outside of the Talmud. You describe yourself as a Talmudic Jew. And I've learned what's in that Talmud. And I
encourage other people at home to learn what is in that Talmud so that you know what Ben thinks of you because he
doesn't just hate me, he hates you, too, white men. He hates all black people. Okay? If he's following the rules of the
Talmud, I mean when I say hate, they think that we're animals. that they have a right to own us, that they have a
right to make us worship them, that they have a right to lie to us, that they have a right to sue us and take
everything that we have, that they have a right to deceive us, that they have a
right to treat Charlie the way that he treated Charlie while he was alive, only
to then try to defraud the population into thinking that he is somehow a part of his legacy, that he somehow cared
about Charlie Kirk and cares ers to protect the people that are working at Turning Point USA. Goodbye, Ben.
Goodbye. Question is, how much more money is Ben Shapiro going to spend to make people
think that he's popular? How many more articles is his father going to write under a pen name Hank Barriian of a
Daily Wire under the pen name Hank Barriian as he wrote while Ben was at
Breitbart for he turned his back and betrayed them too because that is his nature. One of these belly creatures
sliver on. The question is, how many more weeks and
years do we have to keep pretending like Ben Shapiro is relevant? It's an
open-ended question. Of course, what followed Ben Shapiro on stage is somebody who Charlie Kirk loved very
much and who he fought for to the very end against the Jewish donors who were pressuring him. Some of them because Ben
Shapiro insisted that they do. Take a listen to what Tucker Carlson had to say when he hit the stage. the prediction
that, you know, at some point when Republicans took power again, which I
did everything I could uh, you know, to help and really felt that was important. I I still think, you know, I was right.
But I really thought that the impulse to deplatform people or even to use the
word platform as a verb, which it's not. It's a noun. Don't steal my nouns.
Deplatform and denounce. Why haven't you denounced somebody else? the whole like red guard cultural revolution thing that
we so hated and feared on the left that we did everything we could to usher in a
new time where you could have an actual debate. I mean, this kind of was the whole point of Charlie Kirk's public
life. And I think that um I think that he died for it. I really
believe that. And I know a lot about it because the last several months of Charlie's life were devoted in part to
arguing about this event. In fact, this speech, in fact, my speech here, which
he asked me to do earlier this year, this summer, and was immediately put under just immense pressure from people
uh who give money to Turning Point, I would assume good people, but who wanted him to take me off the roster. And this
has all become public and I the whole thing is so sad that I never talk about it except to say Charlie stood firm in
his often stated and deeply held belief that people should be able to debate and
that if you have something valid to say if you're telling the truth, you ought to be able to explain it calmly and in
detail to people who don't agree with you and that you shouldn't immediately resort to shut up racist.
That is Charlie Kirk's true legacy and that is Charlie Kirk's true friend just
as I was and am and will continue to fight and ask questions about who killed Charlie Kirk. Um, and to people that are
at home, I implore you to wake up to these people who believe that they are
contract lords. I challenge black Americans to wake up to your true
history because your quarrel is not with white men. Okay? wake up to who publishes these books and keeps us
waring with one another. Christians versus Christians, right? Christians versus Muslims. Uh wake up and learn the
true history of slavery because that wasn't exactly a white men sport. Okay?
Jewish people were the ones that were trading us. Jewish people were in control of the slave trade. They've
buried a lot of it, but it's there and you can find it. I think all of us need to wake up to
this because it's making me absolutely sick that the he is so bold that he dare
sit near Charlie Kirk's chair that he dare grace that stage when Charlie Kirk
knew exactly what Ben Shapiro was and will always be. So again on your belly
Ben Shapiro we'll be back after a brief break.
More questions about Fort Huachuca.
If there is going to be one solitary person who convinces me, who has convinced me that the public is
justified in looking into Erica Kirk, it is Ben Shapiro. Okay. Didn't like Charlie. You're telling me he's just
obsessed with defending the honor of his widow? No, he's he's fearful. He's fearful of something about Erica Kirk.
He just keeps calling out Erica Kirk on stage, demanding allegiance to Erica Kirk. Who are you actually? Who are you?
Why are you in this conversation? Why were you so quick to say that you would pick up his bloody mic and carry on? And
didn't you just like fire half of your force that was involved in Daily Wire Kids only to then drop a million dollars
on Charlie's show again, weasling your way into the chair when you weren't invited to go on there, but Matt Walsh
was cuz that's what you do. Wheeling deal behind the scenes to make people think that you're liked. It's embarrassing really, Ben. It's truly
honestly embarrassing. Why are you not embarrassed to be alive? I don't understand it. Anyways, so his general
demeanor is is starting to make me think that there's something there, right? The the Fort Huachuca thing, it's definitively
compelling. I would say I am learning also that Fort Huachuca has ties to Liberty
University and that you can attend classes there and achieve your degree at
Liberty University. Still working to verify that. Ma Mark Mark uh Amade,
we're gonna get to that actually that congressman in a second. Amade has come out and really kind of not answered
where he was on the morning of the 9th. And as I said, I don't know if we can
rely entirely um uh on the memory of one person who believes that he saw these
individuals. But what I can say is that we verified 10,00% that he was where he said he was.
That the there was a meeting where he says that there was a meeting. We verified that Blake Nef I mean, sorry,
not Blake Nef, pardon me, Captain Nef was there. The one that he says was nice, but he got questioned for a very
long time and they wanted to hold him for 24 hours. So everything else that people are trying to dig up about Mitch,
you can just ignore. Okay, that is a distraction, right? The only way that you can help debunk anything that he has
said is to say, "Oh, actually, you know, I was the person that was there. It wasn't this congressman. It was me." Uh,
or I was staying at the Candlewood Inn in Suites and I saw this couple or, you know, these two individuals in the hotel
as well and it was actually somebody else. It was my cousin. We are looking only for somebody to debunk those two
aspects, okay? because he was where he says he was and everything else we have verified. Ignore the no noise and stay
focused on that note because we did know that he was going to get attacked by a lot of trolls and I did tell you we
would put together a giveendgo. You can support Mitch at giveendgo.com/candispodcast.
I literally just hit publish on this right before we went live because I realized I hadn't done it. I need to
fill out more and a little bit more about his story. but giveendgo.com/candispodcast
to support him. And like I said, I got the paperwork regarding his lawsuits, everything he said about being put on an
NDA for 35 years. It is all real. It is all verified. Take my word on it. You
don't have to uh send a bunch of emails and saying, "Well, maybe this sounds weird. How do you get onto the base?" We verified it all. Okay. Now, regarding
Fort Huachuca and what it is or who he believes that he saw, we told you obviously that he thought that he saw
the congressman from Vegas, Mark Amade. And I will say regarding the call sign
in Vegas, we keep telling you that call sign at various times says SAM702
or RCH702. Well, that's Vegas. 702 is Vegas.
Shocking just about area codes, obviously. 702 is Vegas, so that could just be
obviously a coincidence, but it becomes compelling. Well, Mark Amade apparently
received a ton of phone calls from his con constituents who wanted to know where he was, like where were you
actually on the morning of the 9th. I want to remind you guys the meeting was concluding at 7:30. We verified his call
logs. We verified everything. The meeting was concluding around 7:30 a.m. in the morning on the 9th on Fort Huachuca
at at Fort Huachuca. So, it is entirely possible and as flight routes show for
planes that did maybe perhaps weren't in attendance at this meeting, you can get back to DC. You just can obviously in
that time frame. Well, Mark Amade tweeted this. He tweeted, "For those of you information consumers who are stuck
in practices of the old days, who prefer facts to dreams and falsehoods, take comfort knowing that in public service,
there is this thing called the public record. The public record on se September 8th indicates that I was returning to Washington DC from my
district and voting on the floor of the House of Representatives. and on September 9th in a 12-hour barkup in the
House Appropriations Committee of which I am a member as well as voting on the House floor. Should you prefer video to
the words of a member of the Federal Legislature, please feel free to view
the House Appropriations Committee's recording of set event on that date. To quote Ronald Reagan, "Facts are stubborn
things. Merry Christmas." So, it's like, whoa, serving up. I was for 12 hours locked into this meeting and so there I
am. There's my alibi. Well, very quickly the interneted and realized that actually he missed two
of the roll calls that happened in the morning and that he was present in the
evening or late afternoon. We are still working to verify that. I replied to that feed. But I can tell you what this
person posted and showed. Diligent Dennis on X wrote exposed rep. Mark
Amade tries and fails to give a solid alibi for the alleged September 9th
meeting with Charlie Kirk security Brian Harpole. The rep claims to have been traveling to DC from his district on
September 8th. Then in a committee meeting for 12 hours all day on the 9th.
However, he was not present for roll call until the third meeting in midafter afternoon on the 9th in DC. This means
he could have spent the night in Arizona on September 8th, attended the morning meeting on the 9th, and caught a
military flight 3 to four hours away from the base to make it in time for the third roll call in DC. I can't believe
he tried to act like you were there all day. Cooked. Cooked at the end there. And they were able to demonstrate,
according to record, that he did miss two of the roll calls. Now, there might be a reason. Again, we are looking for
followup. And the our goal here is if he has an alibi and he was there on the
floor for 12 hours, we would be obviously happy to say that. Like I said, we can confirm confirm every
aspect of Mitch's story, but we can't confirm his memory and whether or not he is good with facial recognition, but I
do find it to be compelling for a few reasons. Uh, one is that I was actually
given the travel logs for Brian Harpole and it is entirely possible that Brian
Harpole could have made it for that meeting. I can tell you that definitively. Brian Harpole could have
made it to that base uh for that early morning meeting. There is no question. And obviously in the interest of making
sure that I'm not misrepresenting him, I have now reached out to Brian Harpole twice. I have his number because he was
Charlie Security. I went on tour with Charlie for years. Messaged him. I know that he received it uh according to
iMessage. I messaged him again. I messaged him just so we're clear before uh we went live yesterday and I messaged
him again since and I asked him, "Hey, look, we're only in the interest in telling the truth. If you were somewhere
that morning, let us know and we'll clarify that." You would think that he would jump at at opportunity because it
why would you want to have people even thinking or or uh surmising that you
could have been at this meeting when you can easily debunk it? We got crickets crickets from him. Again, it could turn
out that it was a Brian Harpole lookalike. It is totally plausible that he just mistook someone's identity and I
am totally open to that and just looking for more information. There was one
person who we are vetting who believes that they have evidence that the people
that Mitch saw were in fact on that base on that date. We will keep you guys
obviously posted on that. Now, something else interesting happened. I have been
sending just so you know when I send Mitch stuff that's happening and I I'm trying to guess who was there or who
wasn't there. I don't give him the context when I send him pictures. So when he first described the congressman,
described the person's heights and the, you know, glasses, this or that, I had sent a few congressmen, he was like,
"No, no, no, no." And then we landed upon the Las Vegas congressman. We did not give him the name. I didn't know his
name, to be honest with you. And he went, "That's the guy." So it was interesting. And of course, this was
before we discovered the planes and the route to Las Vegas. So that was compelling.
yesterday and genuinely because I was sitting down having a discussion at
dinner with um Johnny Yep who runs Catholic for Catholics and we were sort
of discussing everything and I get this text message from Skyler being like Ben Shapiro is like on stage just like
calling you out again. Said to myself, what is his investment in this? Why do I feel like he's somewhere along the way
implicated in something? Let me clarify. I'm not saying he murdered Charlie Kirk, but it doesn't matter if I said that
either way. He that's his whole style is to try to sue people out of the free markets because he can't win in the free
markets. But uh yeah, I'm going what like what is this? Why do I feel like there's a hook here? And at that time
someone had mentioned to me, hey, did you see what's going viral right now on X, which is that Erica Kirk lied about
having not dated anybody before Charlie Kirk? And actually, I knew that she had dated somebody before Charlie Kirk, and
I had I had never known that she had made that claim, and people were starting to make all of these videos about it and wondering if she had
misremembered or whether or not she was telling an intentional lie about her past. Now, what I can say is that there
does seem to be disparity between her version of events and other people's version of events definitively at that
meeting. Obviously, I've already intimated that to you. Like Andrew Kolvette has a memory. Erica Kirk has a
memory. And then the surgeon has a memory, right? I should also mention that the surgeon said, and again, this
is through a third party person, so it's not a direct line between me and the surgeon, that he absolutely did not violate HIPPA when he suggested, hey,
maybe it's a frangible bullet, but rather that it was a three-way call with him and Andrew and Erica. I don't know
if he sung the truth or if Erica sung the truth and Andrew Kovat was flying blind, but you know, there's a
disparity. And as I was looking at this, I sort of went, "Oh, wait. Yeah, I do remember that Charlie uh told me about
Cabot Phillips dating a girl. For some reason, I thought it was Sammy, the other girl that he had a crush on." And
I was like, "Was it Erica?" That's so funny. I'm trying to remember this. And then I saw a picture in somebody's Tik
Tok of Cabot Phillips. I hadn't seen him in a very long time. and he works for the Daily Wire and he had a beard
and that was the thing that he kept saying to me as this guy had a beard. He was around 37. Anyways, I sent him the
picture of Cabot Phillips and he says, "Yes, that's the person I remember being
at the base." Now, I'm like, that would be totally crazy. Maybe again, this could be a look alike. And so, I
messaged Cabot Phillips and did not get a response. I messaged Cabot Phillips twice today actually and asked
him if he wanted to have an off record conversation because I'm we can't just like take that to the bank. Like I said,
I am terrible with faces. So if I saw Cabot Phillips I and I had to just from memory I there's like
30,000 other people I would say it was definitely him too. And I can't trust Mitch's vision on this but it at least
is compelling. And I was like let me do some basic fact checks here. What do I even know about this guy Cabot Phillips? And I know that he does the
morning wire up a daily wire and I checked and he's missing from the
morning wire. He doesn't do it daily, but he does it enough times that I noticed that he is missing from September 4th to the September 10th on
that show. And so I am looking to see to just debunk or like remove him from the
picture that and and maybe to get a clearer understanding that maybe you know Mitch thinks he remembers things. I mean, he's
super detail oriented, like telling me what kind of watch the person was wearing because he was like, I was going
to go up to him and I was going to say something and but I'm going I don't I don't know anything about actually Cabot
Phillips and it was very difficult to find any information outside of his father who I found a lot of information about actually. He's he's a pretty big
guy, you know, taking a lot of money from the Adenss and definitely a neocon, I'll
tell you that for free. So, I thought, is this could this be the reason that, you know, my back of my mind, could this
be the reason that Bed's having some sort of a weird spiral? Does he know something? Or is this just a case? And it could be, just be very clear, it
could be a full case of Mitch misremembering, but I didn't give him the context. I didn't say this is Erica's ex-boyfriend from 2017. And I
just found that to be interesting. And yeah, so I don't know what the reason would be to say that you didn't date
someone. You did. And I I don't understand. I genuinely don't understand that at all. And the internet
did pull this up which I think we can show that uh yes we're that couple who gets painting lessons together. There's
a lot of social media activity between her and his family. I was also really compelled by how close she is with her
cousin. Uh this Nicole Rothstein who defends her in the comments currently by
the way and says you know Erica people were asking why it seems like now there's this bend towards Israel and
Nicole Rothstein was like I'm her cousin. She's half Jewish. I don't I don't I did not genuinely I I did know
that she was part Jewish. I don't know I don't know about any of this at all, but it is interesting that they had a
relationship and I don't know why that's being wiped from the memory. There's nothing wrong with having a relationship before you find love of your life at
all. And so I'm hopeful that we can get some answers and that's why I asked them publicly when I can't get answers
privately. I ask them publicly. Do you want to know why? Because I have a right to ask questions. And like I said, I
don't like the way Ben is signaling that he doesn't want people looking into Derica. Okay. And when people start
looking in, they then find that a Daily Wire employee dated her. So that seems interesting to say the very least. And
we should figure out, you know, what's actually going on? Like what is actually going on? He even says the MSAD. I never
once said the MSAD killed Charlie Kirk. So was that by accident?
Definitely. starting to think in a major way that Israel's got something to do with killing Charlie Kirk and the
Egyptian planes uh which we are putting the final touches on because I don't want there to be even one typo or
mistake on this that we're going to put up on our website. It leads you to Israel. It just does. Okay, there's no
question that's why they were panicking about the Egyptian planes. Fort Huachuca is
involved in lawsuits and sworn affidavit regarding 9/11. people who asserted that
the prepping for that took place. The vibes are vibing here at Fort Huachuca The
more of what I learned about Fort Huachuca and that's why we open you guys to this investigation to send us tips and I
would like to focus you on what we would like to learn. If you have concrete evidence of what occurred at Fort Huachuca
on the early morning of the 9th, we want to hear from you. We do not want an email about what Mitch did in 1993 and
why you don't think he's a good person because he had a divorce with his wife. We just don't need that. We do not want an email saying, "I'm in the military.
It would be unusual for them to allow him to book the hotel." We've already confirmed all of it. He has a literal
video of him that's 18 minutes long asking for directions to get to where he's going. We can see in the background
where he is. We don't want you to waste your time on that. We have verified everything we could verify about the
story. we cannot verify the people and um yeah I just I just sense that there's
there's something there because Ben is coming undone and he only comes undone about one topic and that is Israel. So
uh we will take a break and I will answer some of your questions.
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he's so effortlessly uncool. That's what I want to say about Ben. He's just like effortlessly uncool. So cringe. Eight
Birds writes, "All I want for Christmas is justice for Charlie. Here's a Christmas present for you, Candace. Thank you. I am so grateful for you and
I pray for you constantly. Keep it up. God is using you in a big way. Thank you." And I feel that way. I feel like
all of this is us just breaking the shackles. Like there are just been mental shackles that have been put on us
telling us we have to stay in line, that we have to accept this, that we have to believe in this arbitrary authority. And
everyone around the world is waking up to it. Like I we are just waking up to how absolutely duped we have become as a
society believing that the system is fair when it's so clearly rigged in our faces. And yeah, I I I just hope that
people feel inspired to similarly go Max and stand up against it. And I don't even care about these lawsuits anymore.
I mean, Ben's going to get me a legal letter so fast. I don't care, man. and this is your whole Pharisees, people who
write the laws and we got the judges and blah blah blah and we'll put you into private court and sue you for liking
tweets. Like you heard him on stage like that's I was like literally sued for liking tweets. You know how petty you have to be to even look at somebody's
likes. What are you doing? Like what are you doing? And then publicly trying to
pretend like you care about free speech while you privately sue people who are just trying to leave your company after
they're fired. You fired me. Like you let me go. Like, please let me go. Stop
telling people you're chosen. You are not chosen to do [ __ ] except within the
synagogue of Satan. Clearly, because everything you do is the manufacturing
of lies, bullying, getting people to write articles, smearing, lieling. Yeah, it's pretty explicit what kind of people
engage in that sort of stuff. So, anyways, let me stop telling you guys how I really feel. Let me stop telling
you guys how I really feel. AU Bazri writes, "Damn, let her cook." Nam
writes, "I might not be rich, but this is for the joy you gave me for calling out Mini Benny out for his Napoleon
complex. I haven't had a laugh that good in a while. Thank you. Go Max. Stay Max." Guys, this isn't even the tip of
the iceberg in terms of what that man has put me through because I survived.
Like, literally, it's like that. That's why I say it's a slaveowner mentality. It's very obvious that that's what it
is. Why are you hosting 300 people to fire someone? What is that? Here's what she did wrong. Here's what she did
wrong. And I'm just like the one who doesn't even flinch.
Because literally f you. Yeah. Literally f you. I don't care. Stop. Kanye was
right. He was totally right. That's why he burned down his life and said, "I'd rather rebuild it than let you own one
ounce of it." And when you do rebuild it and they don't own it, well then you then you get into a scary territory,
right? You get into a scary territory because what they are willing to do to take when they can't earn it, it's very
scary. History tells us and shows us. A KXH writes, "They are angry that Candace is
intelligent, eloquent, beautiful, and stays beating them at every turn. I'm so glad that you spoke up about the racial element of this. You're a role model to
us black women everywhere. Candace, go Max." Yeah, guys, when you black people just got to learn your history, man. You got to learn once you the minstrel
shows, who's behind the minstal shows and you know the truth behind the Jim
Crow laws and um who even when you learn about the the clansmen, I mean the
things that happened and all they had to do was control our our textbooks and
keep us all fighting each other and you're out here talking about what the white man has done. Who do you think
tried to genocide the white man in Europe? Right. Yeah. Take a look at that. I keep telling you re watch that
PBS documentary that they came after me hardcore for speaking about. Uh what's
the what the savage piece? Yeah, those are your ancestors guys. Yeah, you are
European like white Europeans. These are your ancestors and with propaganda they
basically move along. They get you as white men to sign up and agree to murder white men on the other side of the
world. It's white men murdering white men and for different reasons being propagandized.
Wake up. Like, we all need to wake up and lock arms against sheer evil. And
the military-industrial complex is sheer evil. And the psychological games they are playing with people, they're playing
on people is sheer evil. What Charlie was going through in the end because of Jewish donors threatening him. I'm going
to take everything. if you even let Tucker speak over speech is sheer evil.
It's despicable. Somebody should apologize for it. Instead, they go, "We'll buy our way and Benny will sit
near Charlie's chair and we'll pretend he was his friend. We can just buy everything. We'll buy your compliance."
No. Actually, our answer to that is no. Chrissy writes, "And that [ __ ] horse
you rode in on, lol. I love you, Candace." Uh, and I mean it like really
I mean that and I know I probably am most definitely going to have to
confess, but I have taken the high road enough and I'm sick of the lawfare. Stop
showing up to my house because you do things to me. Like imagine doing
something to someone and then demanding they apologize for it. Like it's like it's totally crazy. And I was um I
extended every courtesy, you guys. I extended every courtesy. My husband really said, "Let's let's do the Christian thing." Um but I realized you
can't really do the Christian thing with people that hate Christ. Doesn't work. Christian thing doesn't work with people
who hate Christ. So if you're a good Talmudic Jew, as he always says, he's a
Talmudic Jew. You will understand once you get what's in that Talmud exactly what he means and
exactly what he thinks about you. It's important that you understand that. Eight birds. Oh, sorry. Um, seven sheets
writes, "What a year. You deserve a break, but we'll be waiting. You deserve journalist of the year for just not being by fake and gay. God bless and be
safe." Thank you guys so much. Kerbster writes, "Our new motto in candidates' 2028 presidential campaign slogan should
be, today is another great day to go max. It would just be go max. I would never run for president. I hate
everybody that's in DC. I hate their values. I think they are despicable and
how they have acted since Charlie has been assassinated. I hate that they are embarking on this psychological campaign
to try to make us believe that what happened that day was normal. It has made me whose faith in politics has not
made me lose faith in the Lord. And in many ways, I see everything uh that
Charlie wanted. I I understand that he knew he was going to die. And I understand that it has to be me that
defends him and exposes this entire matrix to the world. So, anyways, you guys, I think I've said enough today.
So, uh we'll see you whenever we see you. I will communicate. We might do something next week. Um, I know I owe
you guys a book club, but we'll see you soon. [Music]

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Erika Kirk’s EX-FIANCE Exposes She Was PAID TO Marry Charlie. Kids Arent’s Charlie’s?
StatePower
Dec 23, 2025 #erikakirk #pov #politicalnews

Erika Kirk’s EX-FIANCE Exposes She Was PAID TO Marry Charlie │ Kids Arent’s Charlie’s?

Another day, another Erika Kirk lie exposed!! A bunch of receipts just leaked showing that Erika’s ex-fiancé, Cabot Phillips, might’ve been involved in the plot against Charlie, AND that Erika was allegedy PAID to be Charlie’s handler until the mission was complete!!

But the rabbit hole goes even deeper…

People online have discovered a lot of shady stuff about Cabot….From the weird “pizza” tattoo on his inner lip, to his shady background, and his family’s alleged involvement in a cult!

And then there’s also the fact that Cabot claimed he welcomed a son in March 2024. Interestingly, just months later, Erika allegedly had a son with Charlie….Although there’s not a single photo out there of her pregnant!

So if Erika lied about her dating life before Charlie, what else did she lie about?!

Well, let’s pull out the receipts, because the deeper you go, the wilder it gets!!



Transcript

I never dated here cuz I saw vicariously
through my roommate how terrible it was.
So it says Erikica Kirk was dating
Cabbat Phillips and if you haven't heard
the story basically they were dating
they have all kinds of Instagram stuff
together you know saying we're love
birds people like oh you guys are the
greatest couple and they painted
together all this stuff right and the
same dude was hanging out with Charlie.
I used to go to every single Charlie and
I were on the road probably 320 some
days out of the year. All of a sudden
when I found out I was pregnant I just
stopped. I stayed home because I knew
that once my little one was here, my
focus was going to shift.
Another day, another Erica Kirk lie
exposed. A bunch of receipts just leaked
showing that Erica's ex- fiance, Cabbat
Phillips, might have been involved in
the plot against Charlie and that Erica
was allegedly paid to be Charlie's
handler until the mission was complete.
But the rabbit hole goes even deeper.
People online have discovered a lot of
shady stuff about Kitt. from the weird
pizza tattoo on his inner lip to his
shady background and his family's
alleged involvement in a cult. And then
there's also the fact that Kabitt
claimed he welcomed a son in March 2024.
Interestingly, just months later, Erica
allegedly had a son with Charlie.
Although there's not a single photo out
there of her pregnant. So, if Erica lied
about her dating life before Charlie,
what else did she lie about? Well, let's
pull out the receipts because the deeper
you go, the wilder it gets. He was not
messaging people the day before saying,
"I'm going to be murdered."
Andrew Kova is the person who received a
text message from Charlie Kirk saying,
"They're going to kill me."
He wrote me this. Please pray for me.
Quote, "I know they want me dead."
All right, let's first talk about
Erica's past dating life because so much
new information just leaked and it
contradicts everything Erica told us
about her life before Charlie. So,
here's Erica in her CBS News town hall
on December 14th, claiming she didn't
date anyone for 5 years before meeting
Charlie. When I lived out here, I was
here for 5 years.
I never dated here because I saw
vicariously through my roommate how
terrible it was. Somehow getting drinks
was the replacement of having coffee and
breakfast. I personally would rather
have coffee or brunch with someone than
going I just I don't drink. I find it
unproductive. Not because I'm holier
than whatever. I that's not I just don't
operate that way. But I always thought
it was very strange how she would go to
drinks with one guy and then go to
dinner with another. So it goes twofold
here. So if you're expecting to marry
someone that I was blessed with, like a
Charlie, you have to be the type of
woman that will attract a Charlie. So
that was Erica's version of events. But
now let's look at the facts and what
really happened during those 5 years
when Erica was living her best single
life in NYC. During her time in New
York, Erica appeared on season 3 of the
Bravo reality show, Summerhouse, and her
segments were filmed in August 2018 at a
New York City bar and in the Hamptons.
And yes, she was very much drinking
alcohol, so that's another thing she
lied about.
Get you guys a drink or a food. Maybe
I'll have a glass of your shard.
I'm going to go do the mama's working. I
don't know. I just wanted to get to know
you a little bit more. And like I mean,
how I don't even know how long you've
been in New York.
Gosh, New York. I moved here four years
ago.
How old were you? Can I ask you?
Uh,
but Erica wasn't just going on dates for
TV. She publicly dated at least two men
that we know of during those 5 years in
New York. First, there was Tyler JT
Massie, a pro baseball player that Erica
referred to as her incredible boyfriend
in this interview for Arizona Foothills
magazine. Some sources even claimed they
were engaged at one point because
engagement style photos and shoots
circulated online. However, no marriage
records have been publicly confirmed.
But the real bombshell is this viral
footage from one of Trump's first major
rallies in 2015 that shows Erica
standing next to a man and a young girl
between them. And this man looks a whole
lot like JT Massie. So now people are
speculating that the little girl could
be their daughter.
And one of the calls I got was from
Erica. She's like, "Hey,
I was Miss Arizona. I love Donald Trump.
Can I be involved?" I'm like,
"Absolutely." So, I met I met her and I
was like, "We've got to put her behind
the present." So, I had my family behind
the present. My grandpa who just passed
away just a few months ago, who loved
Charlie, loved the show, everything.
Listen, Daisy. It was my grandpa, my
dad-in-law, Lauren, my wife, and Erica
is up there. Yeah.
And then in the same frame, you can see
Tyler Boer down in the bleachers. The
same Tyler Boer who introduced Erica to
Charlie. So, this raises massive
questions. Why was this history
scrubbed? Why the public narrative of no
dating before Charlie when photos and
sources tell a different story. Tyler
became TPUSA's chief operating officer
in 2017 and just months later he
conveniently set up what was supposedly
a job interview that somehow doubled as
a date between Charlie and Erica. I went
to Turning Point's office opening for
their f first building and Tyler was he
runs Turning Point Auction now and he
said, "You need to meet the CEO." I
said, "Okay, great." Met him very
quickly, shook his hand, said, "Hi, nice
to meet you." Neither of us thought
anything of it. Looking back now, he
apparently sat down with Tyler and said,
"We need to hire or Tyler said, "We need
to hire her." And he goes, "Mhm." But
hold up, it gets even crazier from here.
Before Tyler set up Erica and Charlie,
Erica dated another man. Looks like a
basketball player just wasn't cutting it
anymore since Erica had a mission to
complete. So, she got involved with
someone deeply entangled in the shady
world of politics. Kabat Phillips,
senior editor for Ben Shapiro at the
Daily Wire, who is now on a TPUSA tour
just months after Charlie's murder. Now,
let's look at the timeline of Erica and
Kitt's relationship because here's where
it gets really weird. So, there's this
old tweet from Kitt that just resurfaced
that confirms he dated Erica in
September 2017. Kitt shared a photo of
him and Erica on a painting date and
wrote in the caption, "Yes, we're that
couple that gets painting lessons
together." But check this out. Here's a
photo of Kitt and Charlie also from
September 2017. So, Erica claims she met
Charlie for the first time in 2018 at a
Turning Point USA event in New York
City. And yet her boyfriend was so close
to Charlie that they were hanging out
and playing basketball together. But the
whole thing gets even spookier when you
start digging into Kitt's background. So
first of all, Kitt's father is Tim
Phillips, a longtime Republican party
operative and former president of
conservative advocacy group Americans
for Prosperity. However, in 2021, Tim
was forced to resign from that position
due to personal impropriy. It was never
revealed exactly what he did, and the
organization only issued a short
statement saying, "While the underlying
issues involved are personal in nature,
Tim's actions violate our core
principles and make it impossible for
him to continue in this role." But
that's not the only sketchy thing about
the Phillips family. One user on Reddit
who claimed they went to high school
with Kitt said that the Cabbat family
ran a culty mega church in Leburg,
Virginia called Cornerstone Chapel. And
it looks like this person was telling
the truth because if you go to the
official website of Cornerstone Chapel,
you'll find Kitt's brother, Barrett
Phillips, is listed as assistant pastor
in charge of middle school youth. Now,
let's talk about that pizza tattoo Kabat
has on his inner bottom lip. So, you can
probably guess what people online are
saying about this tattoo. They're
pointing out that Charlie himself
believed that pizza is a code word for
something really dark. And if you check
out Charlie's old post on X, you'll see
he talked about it often and claimed
perpetrators of these dark acts used the
word pizza to hide their criminal
behavior. Now, this of course doesn't
prove that Kabat Phillips's tattoo is in
any way connected to this. But at the
same time, you got to admit that's a
weird thing to tattoo on your inner lip.
And then some users are taking this even
further and bringing up Erica's
involvement in Romanian Angels. So, as
you can see, the issue here isn't that
Erica dated before Charlie. It's the
fact that she repeatedly lied about it
and then she and Kitt both scrubbed
every trace of their relationship from
the internet. So why lie? Unless they
really don't want anyone digging into
who Kat Phillips actually is. Now, are
you ready for the biggest bombshell in
all this? Because this next one might
completely change how you see everything
you thought you knew about Charlie's
assassination. Remember how Candace
Owens claimed that the head of Charlie's
security team, Brian Harpole, allegedly
attended a secret military meeting two
days before Charlie was killed? Well,
Candace just revealed that an eyewitness
has identified another person who was
present at that same meeting, none other
than Cabbat Phillips. I send him the
picture of Cabbat Phillips. And he says,
"Yes, that's the person I remember being
at the base." Now, I'm like, that would
be totally crazy. Maybe again, this
could be a lookalike. And so, I messaged
Kabat Phillips and did not get a
response. I messaged Kabid Kabid
Phillips twice today actually and asked
him if he wanted to have an off record
conversation and I know that he does the
Morning Wire up at Daily Wire and I
checked and he's missing from the
morning wire. He doesn't do it daily but
he does it enough times that I noticed
that he is missing from September 4th to
September 10th on that show. Now let's
say Candace is just spreading
disinformation. Why hasn't Kitt come out
and shut this down if he wasn't at that
meeting on that specific day? That's
something he could easily prove. These
are very serious allegations. So why
stay silent? Well, we don't know the
answer, but the internet sure has
theories. And right now, most people
believe everyone involved was a trained
operative. and that this entire
situation has been one long scop
starting the moment Erica was set up on
that date with

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Tim Dillon TAKES DOWN Erika Kirk & TPUSA! w/ Ryan Matta
The Jimmy Dore Show
Dec 25, 2025 #TheJimmyDoreShow

In this segment Jimmy and documentary filmmaker Ryan Matta criticize TPUSA’s recent AmericaFest event, highlighting Tim Dillon’s commentary that Erika Kirk’s flashy, Hollywood-style entrance and early endorsement of JD Vance felt staged, elitist, and disconnected from everyday people. They accuse Ben Shapiro of influencing TPUSA toward a pro-Israel direction and allege growing internal tension at the organization.

Jimmy and Ryan also discuss the multiple claims and suspicious allegations surrounding Charlie Kirk’s death, donor influence, and TPUSA’s future, framed as a hostile takeover driven by powerful interests. Overall, the video portrays TPUSA as shifting from grassroots authenticity to a choreographed spectacle driven by wealthy donors, media manipulation, and political positioning.



Transcript

She walks out to a pyro technic display
and then she goes, "We're going to elect
JD Vance." It's weird that that's where
her head is at. It's difficult for many
people to relate to. It's not relatable.
For people that talked about how
Hollywood isn't relatable and Hollywood
is out of touch, this looks a lot like
Hollywood to most people.
Okay, I'm here everybody. I'm I'm joined
by uh Ryan Mata right now from Ryan Mata
Films and we're going to talk about uh
TPUSA
and Tim Dylan had a great take on it.
Now, if you if you know this is the this
I I don't know what exactly what stage
of grieving this is
and you can you know what I maybe we
should kill that music right so kill
that music I don't know what stage of
grieving this is but this is the WWE
stage I think it comes right before it
come first you it goes yeah look at this
so this is supposed to be a Christian
organization of conserv conservatives
and um that's what they do now. So, they
got to go more spectacle and um Tim
Dylan actually had a pretty good
commentary on So, if you've been
watching our coverage or anybody's
coverage of TPUSA's America Fest, it was
a, pardon my French, it was a show
from start to finish. Completely the
opposite of what uh Charlie Kirk had
made it out to be. Charlie Kirk uh had
built that up from the grassroots and
Ben Shapiro hated him, tried to
undermine him and Charlie Kirk not a fan
of Ben Shapiro. Yet the first person
they have speaking there is Ben Shapiro
under the two under uh Erica Kirk. She's
the one who runs the whole show now. So
she took I don't know like a million
dollars from Ben Shapiro to have him
speak and he insulted all the other
speakers who were going to come after
him because they were not adhering to
the Zionist propaganda enough and now
they're taking Charlie Kirk's TPUSA and
turning it into a Israel first Zionist
organization and everybody sees it
happening and Erica Kirk is a uh an
agent of the Zionists
prop agenda and she's going and because
we all know Charlie Kirk just days
before he was assassinated had texted
his friends, "I think they're going to
kill me. I can no longer support the uh
estate of Israel." He said that the the
Jewish donors are bullying me. I won't
be bullied. They play into the worst
stereotypes. Uh the Jewish donors play
into the worst stereotypes and I can no
longer support the state of Israel.
Couple days later, he gets killed. And
then Erica Kirk supposed to be grieving,
but you see how it looks when she's
grieving and she's turning and she's
running around saying Shabbat shalom.
She's pitching a book all about the
Sabbath. And uh they're all talking
about Israel first. So it's obvious
what's happening here. And they're and
so they have no real good there. The
heart of the organization has been taken
away and they're rudderless. They have
no leadership except their Zionist
Jewish donor handlers. And that's what
this is looking like. So pretty soon you
will see TP my prediction is you will
see TPUSA uh go the wayside. They will
be just another think tank that nobody
uh pays attention to and uh they won't
they're not going to have the power they
had to get Donald Trump elected. But
here's what Tim Dylan has to say and
here's I think he nails it. Let's
listen. This turning point kind of
abomination
uh that the the the rightwing of this
country has turned into like a bad
reality show. Uh, and it's all of the
fault of of everyone, by the way. It's
the fault of everyone speaking and
everyone attending and every there's
nobody that gets everything
about this is weird and uncomfortable
for everyone.
And I obviously I'm not saying she
killed her husband or knew about it or
whatever. I'm saying the guy got shot
three months ago and she walks out to a
pyrochnic display and then she goes,
"We're going to elect JD Vance." It's
weird that that's where her head is at.
It's difficult for many people to relate
to. It's not relatable. For people that
talked about how Hollywood isn't
relatable and Hollywood is out of touch,
this looks a lot like Hollywood to most
people.
and to go out
uh through a stream of fireworks and
sparklers and stand there in a
glittering pants suit and talk about
electing JD Vance
3 months
after your husband was killed. Many
people feel that there is something off
about that. And we're starting to see
that political people
are the exact same thing as the
Hollywood
elites that they all love to dunk on.
And we all look at this. This is Megan
the Stallion twerking at the Camala
rally. This is deeply unsettling to a
lot of people.
It feels like you're being played.
You feel it. It seems off. You feel like
this is a coordinated
and choreographed
spectacle so that you are played. They
want your money.
Whoa.
Uh well Tim, different people mourn in
different ways. That's what I say. You
know, when I've lost someone close to
me, I become reserved and I find a quiet
place to meditate and on the good
memories that we had. But other people,
they choose to mourn by proving to
America that they have talent and that
they can dance.
Maybe that's what she's doing. Uh well,
any comment, Ryan? Let me bring in Ryan
Ma. Any comment on what Tim Dylan had to
say about that? I mean, I'm sure you've
seen most of the clips from TPUSA's
event Amfest.
Yeah, I couldn't agree with Tim more,
man. All of this seems so coordinated.
It seems so scripted. Nothing seems
organic. Nothing seems natural about
this. You know, from the time that I saw
the video of Erica Kirk talking about
and Charlie interviewing her and they
were going back and forth about their
wedding dates. And anybody that knows
any woman, she never forgets a date.
Dates are so important to women. They
remember it. It's like engraved in their
brain. You know, you'll date a girl and
she'll tell you what her high school
boyfriend sweetheart's birthday was.
He'll tell you what his her mother's
birthday was. And then when you hear
Erica stumbling over birth dates and
then trying to act like she has two
children, so it's too many birthdays to
remember and she gets them confused. And
then watching this spectacle play out
and the way that they've responded and
then watching everybody relentlessly
attacking attacking Candace Owens, I
think puts the biggest spotlight on
this, I don't know. It just doesn't seem
natural to me.
Well, I just don't understand how they
thought it was going to play. uh having
Erica Kirk go around on a media tour uh
trying to get everybody to stop finding
out this the truth about the
assassination of her husband and we
nobody believes the FBI story except the
people being paid to believe it and push
it. Uh and so it would be like if they
had JFK's Jackie Onasses come out a
couple months after his assassination
telling people stop looking into it.
Stop. It was it's fine. we know who did
it and and LBJ is a great person and uh
of course that didn't happen. Uh she was
actually in mourning and she was
actually scared for her life and uh
which is why she went out to marry
Onasses because she felt he could
protect her with his billions of dollars
and uh but anyway so that's so that's
why it's well here's what Candace Owen
says. Candace Owens says everyone was
thinking it. Tim Dylan said it. It was
out of touch and elite. It's not and
will never be relatable for bluecollar
workers to endure lectures from wealthy
people telling them who is and is not
evil. Recre recreating the tent Charlie
died under for selfies. Seriously. Okay,
so that literally did happen. So they
they the tent that Charlie Kirk was
under when he got assassinated
uh certainly wasn't from a 306 bullet
that came from Tyler Robinson. That was
not that killed him. uh he was killed in
some other way. They literally had that
tent. It wasn't a recreation. They
brought that tent to Amfest and they
people were taking selfies in it. And
I'm like, well, well, did you guys make
it really authentic and then pave over
that tent two days later cuz that would
make it more authentic. Um any any uh so
anyway, yeah, there it is. Um let me
And then they had t-shirts next to it,
Jimmy. They had a big like right off to
the left of the tent were the white
freedom Charlie Kirk t-shirts that they
were selling. So, I can only imagine the
amount of people that bought that shirt
and then went and took a selfie under
the tent that Charlie Kirk was
assassinated in.
That's just creepy.
Disgusting.
That that would be that that's just
creepy. Uh, by the way, if you look
talking about merch right here
underneath their their video, it always
says, "Check out our official TPUSA
merch, text merch to seven." So, and
they also have a page at their website.
It's called uh Charlie Kirk memorial
merch and they're have the gall to say
someone else is doing covering this
assassination for money and they're
doing it for clicks and views and
popular like oh my what do you call
this? What is that? What was she
released a video of her weeping over her
dead husband's body in a coffin and then
she claimed she wants privacy. You took
that video and you released it yourself.
Um, it it's it's a it's the most
unbelievable miscalculation of public
relations I've seen since, uh, I don't
know, they thought Barry somebody wanted
to watch Barry Weiss on TV. Um, so, um,
so here's what, uh, Selena Mara says.
Tim Dylan is spot on. TPUSA is nothing
but a corporate griff designed to keep
young people trapped in a choreographed
loop of outrage and fundraising. It's a
stage spectacle that prioritizes
billionaire donor interests over actual
change. If you think these people are
fighting for you while they rake in
millions from a bad reality show, you're
the mark. That's exactly right. You you
are the mark. And uh they think we're
stupid. And if you were impressed by
this Las Vegas light flashing mind
control display, then they were right
about you. But uh but too many people
have seen how the sausage is made and
now they know where the sausage is being
shoved and they won't be coming back. Uh
unless it's Nicki Minaj. Oh, we got to
be there for that. Nicki Minaj. Right.
Here's um uh Runmir says the the problem
with TPUSA
is that with Charlie gone, they kept the
form but lost the substance. To
compensate, they have to make it
flashier, bigger, noisier. But for the
quasi spiritual movement, that is the
end of the road. And as a political
movement, it just goes into the category
of all other political movements. They
merged into the same political greyness.
Yes, they did. Uh it's like if you
wanted to see a group of grifters screw
themselves while trying to screw us,
then this went perfectly. But uh they
went over the top. They really did. And
they crashed on the other side. Kind of
like evil conval,
you You know, and it's like what what
Charlie had set up there with Turning
Point, what made Turning Point so
special and why everybody wanted to go
to TPUSA instead of CPAC was because
Charlie would bring on the guests that
nobody else would platform and he would
put them together and he would host
debates and you would hear from these
amazing speakers on topics that the
American people actually wanted to talk
about. And now we got Nicki Minaj on
stage and Charlie Kirk was not wasn't
even a year ago and he was in an
interview or he was getting uh doing his
um you know his his debates at these
college campuses and the one girl
brought up Nicki Minaj and and uh who
else? Cardi B. And he straight up said
he said I don't think Nicki Minaj is a
good influence for 18-year-old girls. I
just don't think she is. And then Erica
Kirk brings her on stage and I think it
has part to do with Nicki Minaj tweeting
about how how grateful she was for
President Trump and what he was doing in
Nigeria to expose the genocide of the
Christians in Nigeria. She had put out
like three tweets about it and then all
of a sudden she's on stage and she's
acting like she's this big Trump MAGA.
It reminds me, Jimmy, you know what it
reminds me of? That our intelligence a
agencies and uh a group over in the
Middle East control our music industry
and now they see that they're losing
part of our vote. So that's let's bring
Nicki Minaj on stage and make Nicki
Minaj go mega and let's see how many
extra votes we can rally in for it
because we're losing so many.
Oh nice. Yeah. U I that's good. That's a
good uh analysis. Uh Soul Train says
100%. I joined a few of the social media
groups right after Charlie died. I
really wanted to be part of what he
started. Instead it felt like a Jim and
Tammy Fay Baker tellathon. You cannot
say a single negative word about Israel.
Uh, and they asked for money. It was so
disappointing. Uh, Greg Fischer says
it's because it's been the agenda from
the beginning. This appears to be a
wellplanned organized murder and hostile
takeover of the house that Charlie
built, TPUSA. And they're very brazen
about it, even under the heavy scrutiny
of fraud and allegations of specific
individuals involvement, including
Erica. And I'm just wondering if TPUSA
is actually intentionally destroying the
Zionists while pretending to help by by
doing everything horribly wrong on
purpose and sacrificing their reputation
to do it. I mean, talk about taking one
for the team, but this is so ridiculous
that it has to make you think that they
want this outcome. It's like, you look
at this garbage and you have to think to
yourself, who would do this? Who would
think this is working? I It's It's
shocking to me. Here's one more. Master
Chunga says, "It's it's all turning into
a weird spin-off of the Hunger Games.
These people not only don't have
anything in common with us, they hold
contempt for us and claim to have the
ability to steer the narrative in
whatever way they choose. What if we
don't want JD Vance?" Cuz she already
endorsed JD Vance. Three years out, she
comes out. So the whole point of
TurningPoint USA was to have that kind
of political power so you can get
politicians that they had to come to you
and then you had sway with them. They
needed your votes from your
organization. They needed your backing
and your supporter. They couldn't get
elected. So now you can extract things
from those politicians. The fact that
Erica Kirk already endorsed JD Vance
three years ahead of time, that means
she has no power over JD Vance. She none
of the other people are going to try to
come to them to get their endorsement
there. Nobody is going to come to them
and try to give them something they want
in exchange for their support, which is
how politics is supposed to work. It's
not supposed to work like that. The way
what she just did that what did you
think of her endorsing them? I mean
endorsing JD Vance.
It seems like the hostile takeover is is
in play and that turning point is now
just a propaganda arm of the Trump
administration which will then be the JD
Vance administration if for some reason
our country is dumb enough to elect JD
Vance. Man oh man, I think we're going
to be in in in trouble.
Well, if you don't want JD Vance as
president, then you're about to be
shipped to a Venezuelan prison. Uh
he feels his safety is threatened if you
don't vote for him. And so that's that.
Uh yeah, it's definitely a hostile
takeover and it's it's the Trump
administration, but again, the Trump
administration is uh is controlled by
the Zionists and Israel and the the
Marryiam ads and those type people.
That's who controls the Trump
administration. It's obvious that that's
what's happening. And uh so then by
extension, they now control the TPUSA.
And that's exactly who Charlie was
afraid was going to kill him. As soon as
he turned his back on their money, he g
he didn't want their money anymore, the
Jewish donor's money, the Zionist money.
He said that they he won't be bullied by
them. They play into the worst
stereotypes and he can't support Israel
anymore. And before you know it, he's
killed. And everybody pretends that him
saying that didn't mean anything. That's
the So, first they said he didn't say
that. They all lied at TPUSA and said
Charlie didn't say that about Israel.
And then Candace Owens produces the text
messages that shows he did. And then
they all go, "Oh, you're taking it out
of context." He didn't really mean that.
Uh, of course he meant that and that's
why they killed him.
Uh, that's why he said go. That's why he
he he he platformed Dave uh uh Dave
Smith.
Uh, and he had him debate on um, what's
that guy's name? He debated
Josh Hammer at the the last Afest. He
brought Tucker Carlson and he was
getting ready to bring Candace Owens
back. And so that goes directly against
the Jewish donors. the Zionist donors
and it's just like the mafia, you can't
take their money and then turn your back
on them. They're going to kill you. And
it seems pretty obvious that that's what
happened. And that's why they're trying
to turn so quickly uh TPUSA into a
pro-Israel Zionist organization with no
room for debate on that. And that's why
they put Ben Shapiro on stage there.
Somebody Charlie Kirk couldn't stand.
So,
yes. And they they say it silver and
lead, right? I think it was El Chapo.
Yes. Benjamin Netanyahu is literally the
El Chapo of politics. There is nobody
with more power that controls more
militaries around the world than
Benjamin Netanyahu and Charlie Kirk. It
would be like if you went to El Chapo
and you were a cartel member and you
were coming up the ranks and you sat
down at a table and El Chapo was like,
"Here's a big chunk of money and I'm
going to offer you my daughter's hand."
And you're like, "Yeah, you know what? I
think I'm doing pretty good for myself.
I'm just going to take this organization
you help me build and I'm going to set
up shop across the street." You're not
walking out of that table alive, right?
That's right. That's 100%. And we see
the power of uh Benjamin Netanyahu just
most recently in Australia. He got them
to adopt the uh IH definition of uh what
anti-semitism means which is crazy. And
now even after this false flag on uh on
Bondi Beach uh they got he got the
Australian government to crack down even
further on speech of the free speech.
So, they're taking people's freedom away
left and right by threatening Western
governments. And it's working. He's
already got Trump to insert uh DEI for
Jewish students on campus, hate speech
laws on college campuses. So, we thought
we got rid of all that stuff. Trump was
coming in to get rid of that censorship
and DEI and those kind of forced uh DEI
program. And here we and hate speech
laws. This is something antithetical to
his base. And then here he is doing it
at the behest of Benjamin Netanyahu and
the Zionist movement. It's and he they
think people aren't going to notice.
Well, people have noticed. And so the
two biggest leading most popular people
in the conservative movement I would say
would be uh Tucker Carlson, Candace
Owens, Thomas Massie, and Marjorie
Taylor Green. They're all on the
opposite side of Donald Trump on this.
And Donald Trump has taken it. It's I
mean Dan Dan Bonino finally resigned. He
wasn't even there for a few months and
he finally resigned cuz I don't think he
could take it anymore. Do you think
that's why he resigned?
You know that's that's a good call,
Jimmy. I I don't know with with Bonino.
I can't tell because he used to work
under the Obama administration. He was
Obama's Secret Service. He had been in
there for a really long time. I can't
tell. I almost think that it was bigger
than that. I think that they realized
that without with all of the media
turning against them that they needed a
powerful voice back that was going to be
an always Trumper and kind of carry the
weight for this administration. So I
think it was part strategy.
I don't know if I necessarily trust
Bonino. He made a bunch of big promises.
He he he he used his show and he built
it up like he was the biggest anti-deep
state person podcaster in the game and
if ever given the opportunity he would
expose it all. And he went back in there
and promised us the world and didn't do
anything. Not one political arrest and
they were trying to send him out with
that J6 pipe bomber. Don't even get me
started on how that's a whole hoax in
itself. I mean, they the FBI literally
is framing an innocent man for the
bombing of January 6th and that was
supposed to be his like I don't know his
going away. Yeah. Like Bonino caught the
J6 pipe bomber. Hooray. And now that's
blowing up in their face. And now Steve
Baker, the journalist who's exposing it,
magically is in the hospital today with
heart failure. No predispositions.
Never had an issue before. was never
sick and then all of a sudden after he
literally has evidence right now that
he's sitting on that's about to blow
that case wide open. He ends up in the
hospital and and honestly I don't know
if we know if he's going to make it out.
Oi I I don't want any trouble.
Okay. Anyway,
uh that's a so wow. Okay. So this all
ties back into TPUSA. It's all one big
cabal. It's all one, you know. So, but
now because of social media and thank
God for Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens
and people like you, Ryan doing great
work on uh TPUSA and the government in
general. Uh people no longer we we have
we don't we don't just get fed
propaganda, we also get fed truth and
people see through it. People they
screwed themselves with Russia gate.
They screwed themselves with the Ukraine
war and they screwed themselves by
telling us that Joe Biden was sharp and
focused when everybody could see he was
demented and that and then they screwed
us with COVID with ivormectin and
hydroxychloroquin and the vax is safe
and effective and it's going to stop the
and all that stuff that nobody trusts
them anymore ever and it's not working
which is why CBS is failing. what TPUSA
is trying to do is failing. And this,
you know, Charlie Kirk's whole thing was
ask me a question, change my mind. And
their whole thing is how dare you ask me
a question. It's the exact opposite.
Just like you said, bringing Cardi,
bringing Nicki Minaj on and having all
these pyro, it's just the it's the
opposite. And as Tim Dylan said, they're
now Hollywood and pe they not relatable
to regular people. So, all right. Well,
um, and if you like to hear my jokes
about this, come see me January 11th in
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