Charlie Kirk Murder and TPUSA Insider Gossip

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EMBARRASSED ERIKA KIRK BACKS OUT TO AVOID HARD QUESTIONS… BLAMES “THREATS”
Daily Freddo with Kasia
Apr 15, 2026



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So Erica Kirk cancelled her recent appearance at the TPUSA event in Athens,
Georgia. Not the Greek Athens, the American Athens. Not the Georgia country, the state Georgia. And she
canceled it because she was scared for her safety. Yep. She tweeted, "I was so looking forward to tonight's event at
the University of Georgia with our vice president JD Vance, but after all our family has been through, I take my security team's recommendations
extremely seriously. Thank you to our amazing Georgia chapter for your support. God bless you all. Yeah, I want to show you a few things regarding that.
Candace's response to this situation,
Jans's statement on stage or a bit of a rant, actually the fact that the venue they hosted the event at was nearly
empty. So, we suspect she canceled her appearance because she was afraid of the humiliation. But I also want to bring up all those times when Erica was asked if she was taking death threats seriously.
If she and Charlie were afraid of them because her answer was always no. She was trusting God on this one. They didn't live in fear. Well, suddenly she
lives in fear of empty stadiums. Candace Owens responded to Erica's tweet. Stop.

[Candace] This is exhausting. You pulled out because of bad ticket sales. For the same reason, Tippy Faith had to reschedule the pastor's summit and various other events quietly. People don't believe you, and don't line up for you, because you struggle to tell the truth about even the most basic facts. Where is the video of Charlie appointing you as CEO weeks before his death? The Secret Service sits above your security team. Was there actually a viable threat? If so, the vice president would not have continued the event. Your closest threat is the
public relations team you hired, that continues to operate under the delusion that they are smarter than the public. They aren't.

Woohoo. Gloves are off. Battle bun is on. Candace is sick of the act. We are sick of the act. By the way, I will show you videos from the event. There are so many onx at the moment showing empty seats. It's crazy. But first, let me read to you Baron Coleman's tweet. It's
a screenshot of a message he received from someone who was at the Athens event. Here it is.

Went to TBSA event in Athens, Georgia with JD Vance. Erica was supposed to be interviewing Vance. Colvet came out and announced Erica was receiving threats, so she didn't come. Insinuated it was because of Candace and folks like you, Baron. Worth noting secret service was there for JD on top of countless state troopers. So probably the safest place to speak in America right now. Extremely effing cringe and awkward. Colvet tried to milk it and it wasn't landing. Place was empty. 1,200 people at most. Pretty wild considering POTUS was there, and it was an arena.
Very low energy. I went to the TOSA urban tour event prior to Candace and you investigating, and it was completely packed, like a rock concert. That energy is gone. JD did well once the topic shifted away from attacks on Erica. Candace's response to this: Please spare us the paid influencer campaign to convince us that Erica's life was at risk from from empty seats. Just this one time, please, oh, please spare us, Turning Point. We are all begging Turning Point USA to give up at this point. Just tell the truth. Just spare yourself the humiliation. If the stakes weren't so high, it would be funny.

Okay, so here is the stadium what it looked like just minutes before the
event started. Here it is. Completely. And do you remember those events at the beginning of Erica when she would be speaking? It was like a rock concert, full stadium, the memorial. Do you remember what Tyler Boyer said? Oh, Charlie, you had a dream to fill up a stadium with TPUSA event. Well, here you are. Your dream came true. It's like Charlie has a major FOMO now.

Anyway, here is another video. Pathetic attendance. People started speculating online that the fear for her life excuse was just that, an excuse, and she was actually embarrassed to take the stage where there were so few people at the event. Or maybe she was afraid to answer some difficult questions. Some
people commented, "Safe enough for the VP of the USA, but not Erica Kirk.
Something's fishy." And this one, "She receives threats so she won't get on stage, but our VP does. That makes no sense. Safe for VP, not safe for Erica."

Okay. Anyway, Candace Owens wasn't done on X guys. And our least favorite of this game's characters decided to bum p into Blake Neff. So here it is. Candace goes. Erica Kirk pulled out of her event last minute with Vice President Vance citing threats. This is PR horse Obviously she was on it guys last night. She was fed up. He is now doing the event alone at the University of Georgia. What do we think is the real reason she pulled out?
And here comes Blake Nef. Back when you lied about being eager to meet us in person anytime, any place, you made up
multiple fake ass plots as an excuse first to not come to our Phoenix studio and then to not come to Phoenix at all.
You're the last person with any credibility to accuse others of faking threats. Why do they let him speak at all ever? This is such a
misrepresentation of what actually happened. tragic constitution did us all a favor and answered to him. That's a
lie, Blake. She couldn't attend in person that day because of short notice and plans for her husband's birthday.
Also, despite the actual credible ass plot on her life, unlike Erica's, she still tried to reschedu and you guys acted petty AF like the little girl you
are and basically told her to pound sand. Don't make me pull the clips because I will. Okay, so what happened when Erica decided to not show up? Well,
as always, Andrew Kovette to the rescue.
He took the stage with the vice president and started with questions about Erica and what JD Vance thinks of what's been happening. Take a listen.
I I just think about that moment and where she was so broken. And any of you know who anybody anybody who's greed
before is is is you kind of go from just crestfallen and sad and then you want to remember the person that you just lost
and there's just this constant flood of emotions, right? Right? At one moment you're laughing about something they said 2 years ago and another moment you're sobbing because they're not there
anymore. And I thought about that moment a lot because Erica told me and that was the first time she had ever you know first time she'd ever told me this and
and I guess I've I thought about it a lot in the context of our own of our own you know my wife's pregnancy. She said I really wish that we had had more babies
together. And that kind of hit me like it's just it. He's gone. That was sort of one of the moments where I realized
Charlie's not coming back here. And you have this this mom who's really sad about the fact that her two little kids may never have memories. I mean, you
think about like a as a father. I I know most of you out there are too young to have have kids, but one of the things that you think about as a father is I want my kids to remember this moment,
right? I want my I want my six-year-old to remember when I took him to the zoo or you know my six-year-old son was just baptized on Easter Sunday and I want him
to remember that moment with me and that's thank you. But so Erica's struggling with this and of course that's terrible, unspeakable. Most of us
cannot even put ourselves in her shoes while at the same time you know she's trying to make sure that Charlie's legacy doesn't die. And in that context,
everybody is attacking her over everything and they're lying about her.
And it's one of the most disgraceful things that I've ever seen in public life. And I've seen a lot of crazy stuff in my life as a as a political leader.
And I will tell you that the people who tell you I was there with her. I was holding her hand. My wife was hugging
her while we loaded Charlie's body onto Air Force 2 and said the Lord's Prayer.
The people telling you that Erica wasn't grieving her husband are full of And we need to be honest about that fact.
People pretend they don't remember what happened right at the beginning when Charlie was taken out. My first thought was about his wife and kids. I cried for them. I cried for her. Most of us did.
The whole world rushed to her side to support her through this tragedy to try to somehow soften the blow of this enormous loss. Nobody, even if we
thought she was a bit weird, nobody questioned the fact that she was grieving, just that she was grieving differently, but it's seven months later and we can't unlearn what we've learned.
We can't unhear what we've heard. So yelling at the crowd, basically saying, "Stop questioning Erica's behavior. Believe me when I say she's for real,"
is not going to work, Mr. Vice President. What would work? answering every single question that has been asked about her shady behavior,
relationships, decisions prior and post Charlie's unaliving. Thank you. Also, if someone has to go through mental
gymnastics and explain someone's behavior and really really stretch it and really really prove it that this person is like that because they're
grieving. Maybe that's not normal either. When when you become a public figure, the natural thing, and I've I've talked to Erica about this privately, is
a ton of crazy people say a ton of things about you that simply aren't true. But the thing that makes it so egregious with Erica, is that she's a
grieving person who's trying to carry on her husband's legacy. And look, we all do things that are wrong. If you want to, you know, criticize Turning Point
USA for not taking this position or having this political disagreement or maybe it should do this or that, that's all above board. But to say that Erica
Kirk wasn't grieving her husband on that day. To say that Erica Kirk was somehow complicit in it is so preposterous and
so disgusting. And it's one of the things that has broken, I think, the American public conversation over the last six months there. I mean, you know,
Andrew, we could talk about this for a long time. Charlie's absence, I felt it so many times in so many different ways.
There have been so many times where I wanted to call Charlie and say, "Man, you've got to call this person or, "Man,
you've got to put this event together so we can help this candidate or or just to bounce ideas off of as a friend." There have been so many ways in which I felt
that void. But one of the ways in which I felt that void is that it's like the response to Charlie Kirk dying the the
response to Charlie Kirk getting by a left-wing furry lover is the response should have been let's go after
left-wing violence and terrorism. Let's defund the networks of left-wing violence and terrorism. That's what we've been doing in Washington DC and that's what we've been fighting for
every single day. you know, S Savannah Hernandez, of course, was assaulted in Minnesota a couple days ago. I talked to Cash Pat Mattel on the way down here and
I said, I assume that we're doing something here and he said, "Yes, we've had multiple agents on the ground. We've already talked to Savannah. We're going to use the video to try to go after the
people who assaulted her and then try to defund the networks that fund those radicals who are going around assaulting activists. That's what we should be doing."
Wait, is JD Vance, Vice President of the United States, trying to taint the jury?
Did he just basically say that Tyler Robinson is guilty even before the preliminary hearing? What is this BS?
Guilty until proven innocent all the way to White House. Insane.
But if you're going after Erica Kirk and not the people who are trying to destroy the United States of America, you're part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Yeah. Amen. I I think that's really well said, Mr.
Vice President. And I always try and remember that Erica has to live with this constant reality that her kids are
one parent away from being orphans. And so we take that extremely seriously. And as you mentioned what happened with Savannah and I think it's just important
that we remember that we're dealing with humans. These are human beings. Um yeah I I I you know exactly I've heard some
people say well you know Erica was smiling 2 days after Charlie Kirk died or something like that. And it's like,
have most of us in this room have grieved somebody that we loved. You know, maybe hopefully not a spouse who
dies in the prime of their life, but when you deal with somebody who's grieving, it's always this weird combination of emotions. It's intense
sadness, intense affection. It's, you know, you you sort of love that person in that moment, maybe maybe more than you ever have because you feel their
absence. You think about all the happy moments that you had and you can't help but smile and then you remember they're not there and you can't help but so that's what grief is like. And so again,
if your instinct is to go after not the left-wing radicals who are assaulting Savannah or not the people who shot
Charlie Kirk, but if your instinct is to go after a a young mother because she's grieving in a way that you find in a you
you find wrong, well, why don't you stay in your lane and mind your own business? Yeah. Amen.
Grief is complicated and I just absolutely grief is complicated.
Everyone grieavves differently. We all know that and nobody said you're not allowed to smile when you're grieving.
Obviously when you will be remembering your husband and nice moments with him,
you will smile and then probably that will make you cry as well and then maybe go into hysterics and then you will start hysterically laughing again.
That's what happens. When my grandma died, all our family sat down together at the table and we would tell funny stories about her and we would laugh and we would cry. That's how it works. Okay,
we know that. Nobody needs to explain it to anybody. But still, for the widow to
sit down and say, "I am so excited. I am so excited." It's it feels weird to say,
but I'm so excited. You know, that's different. or being like it's a Charlie
is so happy with Jesus looking down at us making sales. It's a blessing in
itself. You know, all the merch we It's weird. That's weird. And if Erica's
grieving was so normal, everything she does, why does it need to be defended by Vice President of the United States?
Guys, it needs to be explained and dissected just so you guys understand that whatever Erica is doing is fine.
15 minutesYou know, it's normal.
Vice President said so. Don't read into it. The thing is, it seems to me like JD is a bit behind with the information
here because people are not talking about Erica grieving wrong or weird or not grieving at all anymore. This is old
news. This is irrelevant now. There has been so many lies. She was caught in. So many inconsistencies, so many shady
things that came to the light. Nobody cares about if she's grieving or not.
What we care about now are facts. The audience of this telenova evolved. We are watching true crime in real life
now, not some Esmeralda. I shared Baron's tweet and wrote my own response to this whole thing. Here it is. But I
thought Erica and Charlie weren't afraid of threats like that. Erica said that the the only thing she's afraid of is not being aligned with God's will. What
changed? Let me remind everyone what exactly she's been saying. And when I first saw those articles and clips of her, I told you guys they talk as if
they were aware that one day it will be a movie. And they want everything they say to be iconic, legendary, dramatic.
Let's start with Megan Kelly stage interview.
We always we see the thing is is that I guess we just operate differently. We always knew there were threats. We always knew that there were people out
there that hated us with deep, deep passion of hate. But it didn't scare us.
Never. He was never afraid of that.
Neither was I. Obviously, we pro protect our children, you know, we we don't show their faces on the internet, so that's
very intentional. But I think we lived our life in such a way where
if that was our last day, it was our last day. Like we always lived as if it was the last day. That's why Charlie's speeches were so good.
They were so good.
They weren't afraid, guys. They weren't afraid. What is your problem? Another one. Do you feel safe? What are they going to threaten me with?
Going to heaven sooner to be with my husband. And I don't say that to be reckless. I do not I do not say that because I'm out in the streets like here I am. Come find me. And it's not at all.
It's it's it's a fearlessness that's rooted in the understanding that I will have my day and my time whenever that is when the
Lord knows that it's I've completed my my mission. And I'm not afraid. Charlie
wasn't afraid either. We never lived in fear. If we did, we wouldn't get anything done. Well, you didn't get that event in Athens done.
So true. Maybe now you can start talking like a real human being instead of performing something you don't fully believe in. Of course, you'd be afraid
after what happened to your husband. Of course, you'd have this new sense of responsibility that you need to stay safe and alive as the only parent your kids have left. Why not just say that?
That doesn't mean you believe in God any less, but we have free will. You can either be cautious and not go to a
dangerous park at night or you can go there as soon as it's dark and say, "God will protect me. See what happens."
These interviews were conducted after she lost her husband. So, it's not like she wasn't afraid until it happened to Charlie. No, she still claimed she
wasn't afraid or at least she said so after he was taken out. And this is another example, you guys, that it was
all an act from the start, part of the script where she was supposed to be that heroic widow stepping in for her husband
and leading the free speech revol revolution. Well, it all is kind of falling apart now, isn't it? And I love
how people on her side took all these threads seriously. Everyone is defending her. All the news channels are now
telling the story how Erica Kirk because of Candace Owens and people like her was forced to cancel her event and not come
and speak in real life because of the threats because she was afraid for her safety. Okay. But when Candace received
her threads, crickets making fun of her. But as usual, I want to know what you guys think. Do you believe the only reason Erica didn't
make an appearance in Athens was because she was genuinely fearing for her life?
Or did it have to do more with the pathetic attendance and she was trying to avoid embarrassment? Maybe it was another PR stunt orchestrated by Andrew
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THEY JUST ADMITTED IT: ERIKA KIRK’S VP RUN EXPOSED — JIM CARREY WARNED US THIS WAS COMING
Hustl
Apr 15, 2026



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I think Gloria would be very very impressed with it. Yep. He's definitely talking about his junk. Ew, ew, ew, ew.
Erica Kirk won Miss Arizona in 2012 and hung out with Donald Trump in 2012 because of that.
I know people who shot Charlie Kirk, but if your instinct is to go after a a young mother because she's grieving in a way that you find in a you you find wrong,
well, why don't you stay in your lane and mind your own business?
Yeah. Amen. Grief is complicated and I just and I, you know,
less than 2 weeks after Charlie Kirk was publicly assassinated, TPUSA's chief operating officer, Tyler Ber, went on Newsmax and said this,
do you see politics in her future down the road?
Yeah, you know, it's funny. Uh, I had had conversations with Charlie about that. So he she he he was like, "Man,
Erica could be so much bigger and better than me at almost everything we talked we laugh all the time about because people were like Charlie was going to be
president someday." He believed firmly that Erica was going to be president someday. Now there are two things you need to understand. Tyler Ber is the man
who introduced Charlie Kirk to Erica and this was the first time we heard Erica's name floated as a possible presidential candidate. But it would not be the last.
Just 2 days later, while the whole world was still asking what happened to Charlie, Tyler Ber doubled down.
We've had some of your colleagues from Turning Point on in the last few days.
Some of them had told me that Charlie always joked if something terrible happened, he wanted Erica to be his successor. What differences do you see
between the leadership of Charlie and when Erica does take over officially? Yeah, I mean, Erica's already there.
Erica and Charlie are one. Charlie is one with Erica. So, it's just it's such a natural fit. Uh, he had always looked
up to Erica. He had always boosted Erica. Everyone always said Charlie would be president. Charlie always said that Erica would be president. So, now
here's what stands out. He keeps saying Charlie wanted her to be president. Of course, Charlie can't verify or deny
that. So, we're just supposed to take their word for it. But it turns out not everyone inside the organization was buying it. That's why last month the
University of Arkansas chapter of TPUSA dissolved and rebranded itself. Turning Point USA chapter at the University of
Arkansas announcing it is rebranding and disaffiliating with the national group.
The chapter's president said in a statement posted on social media the executive board had become concerned with the direction of the national
group. says the chapter will now be rebranding to Young American Revival,
focusing on advocating for Christian conservative values. Comes a week after Turning Point's CEO Erica Kirk paid a
visit to Arkansas, Governor Sanders signed a proclamation endorsing TPUSA chapters and schools statewide. Now, we
do not need to speculate why they did this. In their own statement, they said,
and I quote, "We are generally put off by how Charlie Kirk has been used by TPUSA since his assassination."
Statements like Charlie would have said,
and Charlie would have wanted have felt in many instances disingenuous and manipulative. So maybe not everyone is
on board with the idea of Erica Kirk taking over, and some people do not think she should be leading a movement
this big at all. To those critics, Tyler Boyer said this in a recent interview.
What I suspect they they start working all their networks with the Miss Universe contestants and pageant winners from the past in Arizona. And many of
them, it's not just Erica, but many of them, and I've known a few Miss Arizona through um there's a lot of people that get involved with the pageant world that end up in politics and things like that.
It's not not unique to Erica, but she had been contacted and someone had said,
"Hey, you know, Tyler, who was the chairman of Maricopa County at the time,
I was, you know, this young 20something year old chair that was that was running this whole thing is in charge. Here's his number. You know, get in touch with him." And so, we had gotten in touch
about showing up to that. But, yeah, our first face toface meeting ever was at that 2015 rally.
Uh, and then after that, I had encouraged, I was like, "Oh, you're awesome. Like, thanks for getting involved." Of course, again, we put the former Miss Arizona on stage behind the president. Yeah.
Um, you know, with with all of that. But so, according to him, Erica was not just political. She was a diehard Trump
supporter from day one. And that is exactly what Andrew Kulit said just 9 days after Charlie was assassinated.
You want to know a crazy thing I just realized last night? So,
Andrew Breitbart dies in 2012. That March 1st. that inspires Charlie Kirk to start Turning Point USA in 2012.
Guess what else happened in 2012? And we talk about people getting prepared and these little like nuggets that you you think about. I just realized this. Erica
Kirk won Miss Arizona in 2012 and hung out with Donald Trump in 2012 because of that. I know.
But here is what Erica Kirk was saying about Donald Trump back during the 2012 Jenna Talova controversy. Hey guys, I'm Erica filling in for Lauren this week.
By now, I'm sure you've heard all about the controversy between Donald Trump and transgendered Miss Universe Canada contestant Jenna Talakova. But this week, the debate certainly went south.
Every pun intended, literally. Jenna is now being represented by famed lawyer Gloria Alred, who is defending Jenna's right to participate in the pageant as a
woman. In an interview, Gloria says Jenna didn't ask Mr. Trump to prove he's a naturally born man or see a photos of
his birth or to even view his anatomy. H in classic Trump fashion, he responded,
"I think Gloria would be very, very impressed with it." Yep, he's definitely talking about his junk. Ew, ew, ew, ew,
ew. Okay, you guys, enough. Let's hope this debate stops now before any proof pics wind up on Twitter.
Of course, her views on the president seem to have changed dramatically in recent months.
Charlie loved you. It's hard not to get emotional because I know that he would have been the first phone call when he found out that you were going to be
taking this position. And the way that I was able to witness the two of you work together for years and to champion and
support the president was absolutely humbling to witness and I am so proud of you. And Charlie is going to be with you
every single day um in spirit and I will be praying for you every day. Now, since Andrew just told us there are no
coincidences, let me show you something else an online investigator uncovered. So, can someone please explain to me?
But why? Erica Kirk, vice president,
which is the exact term that I put in here, was searched in April in Arizona,
Erica Kirk, vice president. So, for everyone saying, "Well, it could have meant Charlie Kirk." No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I never thought it did. This looked like a plan all along. So, in April, somebody, not just once, not just twice, but a bunch of times, looked up Erica Kirk vice president on Google, over here to the right, is after he was assassinated. Makes a little more sense. But in April, can you imagine her sitting around and being like, "Erica Kirk, vice president, I'm manifesting it." She was so irrelevant in April of 2025 that this is honestly wild. And you can see in the top left the term that I of course we do not know why someone was searching Erica Kirk vice president last April, just like we do not know why she appeared in CIA videos, or how she ended up interviewing CIA analysts.

We have five major threats that make our grid extremely vulnerable that we've presented to congressional officials. One being cyber, two being hackers,
three being physical threats, fourth one is solar EMP, and the fifth one is man-made EMP.

I'm Erica Frantzve, the host of Millennials Rock, and I'm here today with the incredible Dr. Peter Pry. He is the executive director of the Task Force
on National and Homeland Security, and director of the US Nuclear Strategy Forum, both congressional advisory boards. He has served on the Congressional EMP Commission, the Congressional Strategic Posture Commission.

It's all pretty bizarre. And I would love to know what you think.

In the meantime, let's talk about an old Jim Carrey clip that is suddenly going viral again. In this 11-year-old clip from Jimmy Kimmel, Jim Carrey makes a very obvious sign. He even mocks Kimmel for pretending not to know what it means.

Is that a gang sign?

Oh, like you don't know what it is. You don't know what that is. I have no idea.
You don't know; Jimmy Fallon doesn't know; David Letterman doesn't know; We don't know; All the comics and show business don't know what this is. Right.

Yeah. What is it?

Come on, Jimmy. Seriously, the time is up. People are hip to this kind of stuff. I'm here tonight to blow the lid off it, to be the whistleblower. I'm sick and tired of the secrets and the lies. It is the secret symbol of the Illuminati, and you're a part of it.

Now, he does not stop there. He goes even further. He claims people like Jimmy Kimmel are there to distract us.

For years now, talk show hosts, people on television, people in sitcoms have been hired by the government to throw you off the track, to distract you, to make you laugh, and stuff like that, make you happy, and docile, so you don't know what's really going on.

And at the time, most people just thought it was a joke. But here's the thing. If you tune out the fake laughter and the paid audience, Jimmy's laughter seems very forced. Yeah, look at him. Look at him trying to calm it out. It's hilarious. Hilarious. And you know, and I'm sick of ...

Hold on a second.
Now, we also cannot ignore what happened after Jim Carrey basically vanished from the spotlight. And when he finally resurfaced, he looked and sounded nothing like the actor we all knew.

Now I'm close. Now, what are you going to do? Now, what are you doing? You got the golden shot right there. Thank you.

Now, speaking of bizarre clips, people have now found a very strange astronaut video that makes almost no sense to a wonderful applause from the crowd.
They're looking really excited. Now, what I want you to pay attention to are the cell phones that the people in the crowd are holding and recording and
taking pictures with. Pay attention to these phones. I'm going to freeze frame the shots where they're holding them up,
aiming them at the astronauts, and you will see that there are no astronauts whatsoever in the cell phone footage view.
Some big smiles. I love that out here. It's a great day for us. It's a great day for this team.
A few words from Reed.
And that is not the only weird thing about this mission. The astronauts themselves keep going viral. Here is
astronaut Christina Cock freezing up on stage while describing the mission.
Just Earth. It was all the blackness around it.
Earth was just this lifeboat hanging undisturbingly in the universe.
Uh-oh. So,
I may have not learned I know I haven't learned everything that this journey has yet to teach me.
But there's one new thing I know, and that is planet Earth. You are a crew.
Thank you. As you can see, this does not even look emotional. It almost looks like her earpiece cut out and she lost
the rest of the script. And while the internet keeps pointing out the strange moments surrounding this mission, the
so-called experts keep making even wilder claims.
What is the biggest challenge with this next phase of of the next mission?
Well, as I say, getting the ability to land on the surface of the moon.
We've done it before, though. Tell me why it's not so easy to do it again.
Well, we don't have the the hardware that we did back in Apollo and uh quite frankly, we don't have the budget.
Now, moving on, let's talk about Open AI CEO Sam Alman, whose house was reportedly attacked in the middle of the night.
This raid was coming and the FBI is in fact raiding the home of a suspect who
prosecutors say was trying to kill Open AI CEO Sam Alman.
The suspect, they say, threw a Molotov cocktail at his home. That suspect is currently in custody facing a list of charges.
Apparently, the suspect had a list of AI executives and investors. And that reminded me of something. Just a few
months ago, the CEO of Stability AI basically predicted this kind of violence as AI keeps replacing jobs. And his other predictions are even scarier.
Avoid a crisis. He estimates this could push unemployment to 20% within 1 to 5 years. I'd be interested to see if you think that that's conservative or on
point. Um, is this kind of looming disruption why the billionaires are building bunkers?
Um, yes, actually it's one of the reasons generally it's what they do. But I know a lot of AI CEOs now who've canled all public appearances,
especially in the wake of Charlie Kirk and things like that. They think that that's going to be the next wave of anti-AI sentiment next year because next
year is the year that AI models go from not being good enough. The dumb member of your team and again the people listening to this will be like yeah the
AI is not good enough. Then overnight it becomes good enough and then the job losses start and we
don't know where they end because you don't need to hire back if your company is more productive.

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NEW CLAIMS: WAS CHARLIE ABOUT TO LEAVE ERIKA?! | PROOF HE DIDN'T WANT TO RUN FOR OFFICE!
Daily Freddo with Kasia
Mar 17, 2026



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Do you guys remember when Candace Owens alleged that maybe Charlie and Erica's marriage wasn't as perfect as their social media accounts showed that
towards the end they were struggling and maybe even fighting the night before the UVU event? Well, there is another person now coming out with information
validating Candace's theory. That person is Marcos who normally does deep dives on celebrities on his Tik Tok account
called Be Better. He now has another account because he did experience a lot of buns on his videos and his videos
being taken down. He so far did two videos about Erica and we will discuss them both today because they are kind of mind it's if true they're mind-blowing.
I'm not cutting anything out. The videos are not long but I do have a lot to say about them. Let's go. So, about a year
ago, I was brutally cancelled off the internet for having a billionaire father as well as political connections. But
tonight, I'm going to use that privilege to expose what really happened with Erica Kirk. Because once you understand how these elite circles actually
operate, the entire mystery around her becomes incredibly obvious. So, take a seat, grab a bag of popcorn, because I
might get deleted for posting this. So in order to fully understand what happened with this crazy [ __ ] you need to understand the fundamentals of politics themselves. So politics operate
very much like a social club with a social hierarchy. So at the very top there are the billionaires who write nine figure checks to the puppet class,
also known as politicians, who in return give the billionaire class undying loyalty on the issues that matter to them most. Now, the most important thing
for you to drill in your [ __ ] head to really understand the story is that you may look at a President Obama, for example, and think that he is at the top
of the social pyramid. That is absolutely not true. When there are these private dinner meetings with billionaires and with past presidents or
potential future presidents or even a current president, they are at the very bottom of the [ __ ] barrel. If you were to compare it to a social hierarchy
2 minutesin a high school, for example, the billionaire is the superintendent of the entire school board. And a President Obama, for example, is like the
president of student council. He actually has no power over the school whatsoever. It's completely performative. Every single time you've ever voted, you are really voting for
someone that was handpicked for you by a billionaire who doesn't want to run themselves because they are busy ruining the planet. And honestly, being a
politician is seen, as I said, in these social circles, at these dinner parties, as a very lowly job. So, in summary,
every single person who has made it to the level of a vice president or a president is nothing but a billionaire's
[ __ ]
This is nothing new to us. We've been hearing from many online creators,
especially from Candace Owens, that politics is a theater. That's why so many of those politicians have backgrounds in acting, school plays, or
actual theater. They are actors, fake and gay. Let's see where he's going with that.
And this brings us to the fundamentals needed to understand the story of Charlie and Erica Kirk. So, in 2018, a
former pageant queen, Miss Arizona, Miss Erica Fransf, stumbled into the brand new Turning Point USA office in Phoenix,
Arizona. While she was there, she very quickly bumped into Charlie Kirk, who then flew her to New York City for her job interview at a burger joint, a
restaurant called Bill's Burgers. At which point during the job interview,
Charlie Kirk said, "Forget the interview. Forget the job. I actually think I'm going to date you because that's super professional." But that's what happened. Erica completely jumped
at the chance to date Charlie. because he was already anointed by the billionaire class that funded and controlled Turning Point USA as the
person that was going to be the next president of the United States. This was not something that was a secret. This was not something that was implicit.
This was something that was explicit in several conversations. Everybody knew that Charlie Kirk one day would run to
be president. And it was a running comment, a running joke that Erica Kirk would one day be the first lady. This was her life goal and this was the plan
and the only reason in 2021 she married Charlie Kirk. She did not marry Charlie.
She married the trajectory of the presidency and proximity to power which is what she always wanted. A lot to unpack here. So first of all,
Marcos speaks as if all of those things he's claiming were facts. He either has some incredible legitimate source and is
100% sure of all of it is true or he is playing with fire because we already learned that we don't like when someone
muddies the waters of this investigation for no reason. So he described the story of how Erica and Charlie met. Okay,
let's start there. Let's not forget that it was Tyler Boyer who introduced them.
And let's not forget that Erica told us also this story.
You're sitting in that chair for a reason. That exact chair,
that person that's sitting right next to you was meant to sit right next to you.
5 minutesI'm not telling you to have figure out why,
but just know that nothing is by mistake. Nothing. I will never forget the time I was in Israel with my hus well not with that was the second time
but the first time with my mother on a pilgrimage and I was standing in the ticket line and I remember looking behind me and in the snake of the ticket line was a guy who looked very familiar.
I had no idea who he was and I told my mom, "This guy looks so familiar." And as a typical mother, she said go and say hi.
No, we were late for our flight and I'm not going to come off like a crazy person with a That's just weird.
That ended up being Charlie.
Nothing is by coincidence. Now, did I did we know that that No, not until we were like 3 months into our relationship and looking at time stamps seeing that
both of us were in Israel at the same time.
But nothing is by coincidence when God is within you. Okay,
see you guys go blaze a trail. Okay, God bless you all.
Well, she did say something true in there. Nothing is by coincidence. If this is real, it just makes her mother
look worse. And it makes it all seem even more suspicious. Assuming people plotted for Erica and Charlie to get married so she can be his handler. Maybe
the original plan was for them to meet at the little hutsand. I mean, how poetic for the donors. That's why Lori
was encouraging Erica to go say hi to Charlie. Allegedly, it's literally just me thinking out loud, not making any statements, but it looks weird. I also
had a look at what was happening with Charlie back in 2018. And why was this the moment him and Erica met? Why was it
a good moment for that if someone was to plan it this way? Well, he founded Turning Point USA, hundreds of campus chapters at that point, built a massive Gen Z conservative audience online,
hosted large nation events, student action summit, gained access to top GOP circles, including Donald Trump, became
a recognizable media voice, campus debates, interviews, secured major donor funding and political network. He was in
his early 20s, guys. He was just getting started then and people already allegedly said that one day he would be
the president because not only was he so accomplished already, but allegedly he was selling what the donors wanted
people to buy. The message was getting where it needed to get through Charlie and he was faithful to the movement he was serving. But what's interesting,
Charlie allegedly changed his mind. He did not want to run for office at all.
at all. This is important for something we will discuss a bit later in this video. He did not want to run with Vance in 2028 and he did not want to be inside
the government at all. This is a clip of him from 2025. Listen carefully.
8 minutesWould you ever consider making a run for the presidency?
You knew that was coming. I'm 31 years old. I got a great life and my my mission right now is defend the Trump
administration on the great stuff they're doing. get JD Vance elected as the next president of the United States in 2028.
And if they ever run out of people, I don't even know if I would consider it.
You know why? People say, "Are you going to run for Senate or Congress?" I'd say,
"Listen, honestly, I think the impact we're making is bigger than sometimes some of the US senators." I don't know if you guys agree or not. I do. But again, I'm not trying to, you know,
be braggadocious, but I can say what I want to say. We have a very successful podcast. Who listens to the Charlie Kirk show? Anybody? I mean, it's amazing.
Wow, you guys. And our campus tours are sweeping are sweeping the country.
Billions of views. I got over a thousand employees. I'm the most blessed. I I have to pinch myself when I wake up every single day that I get to be able
to do this as my job. And so, I never want to lose that. I always just want the highest and greatest impact.
He didn't want to be a politician. And I think this rubbed his donors the wrong way. I think, just my opinion, they wanted to groom their future president and it wasn't working. I don't know.
Let's continue with Marco's video.
Erica Kirk was never a stay-at-home wife. She was the operator. She hosted the donor dinners. She smooed the billionaires. She stealed the checks.
And she ran all of the events. This is documented. Charlie was nothing but the face. He was the schmuck, the puppet that went to university to embarrass
college kids to then clip them on social media and raise money for his political campaign disguised as a charity. That's all it ever was. And Erica was the one
that upkept and fostered the relationships with the billionaire class. The agreement for them was very simple. Do what you're told. Ride the
youth wave to the White House and then become president and first lady of the United States. But things didn't go quite according to plan. Because
somewhere along the line, Charlie Kirk grew the tiniest little piece of a spine. So in 2024, Charlie began
defecting on some issues that were very important to the billionaires that owned him. specifically issues regarding foreign policy. The donors began to
panic that their puppet was defecting on the only issue that actually matters to them. So they attempted to appeal to him through the only lever of control they
had left, which was his wife. Erica then began pestering Charlie every single night, which put immense strain on their marriage. Support the war. Do what
you're told. You're ruining everything that we built together. And it actually got to the point where this is documented that a priest had to be called to pray over their collapsing
marriage which I believe detonated the night of September 9th, the night before Charlie was murder.
Okay, I have to pause because this is a huge load of information. Let's assume he is telling us the truth. He claims he
has it all documented. We don't see the those receipts, but he claims so. On the other hand, Marcus has been doing those exposes for a long time. most famous and
11 minutesrecent one with Lively and Baldoni lawsuit and the things he was sharing turned out legit. So for the sake of this video, let's assume he does know what he's talking about. Okay. Yeah.
What makes me lean towards believing him is the fact that in June 2025, something shifted. I mentioned it many times, but
this was a moment when Charlie was spending his days at the White House trying to convince Donald Trump not to start a war. Erica at the same time
cleaned out her Instagram. She removed about 126 posts as if suddenly some decisions were made and she had to now
really pay attention to her image and what's there online about her. It's weird because same thing happened recently. She cleaned out her social
media again. She removed 42 posts. And what do we know happened recently? Well,
this Donald Trump appoints Erica Kirk to fill position held by late husband Charlie on Air Force Academy board. Her
role is now to oversee and evaluate student life of cadetses discipline and morale, academic programs, campus
culture. Basically, make sure the academy functions properly and submit reports to the president, Congress, and Department of Defense. Anyway, there is
more, but I don't want to spoil Marcos's video for you. So, let's continue. In this next clip, he is still talking about the night before Charlie's
unaliving. Marcos said that Erica was pushing Charlie into direction the daughters wanted him to go. But he was fighting back. It was negatively
affecting their marriage to the point they called the priest to pray over their relationship on the night of 9th of September. Which is interesting
because we know the story to be that they believed the curse, right? The Jezebel curse of a witch that was put on
Charlie and that's why they called the priest because they were so scared of this curse. I don't know. It seems like they were trying to cover something up.
It seems like it. Anyway, let's continue.
Erica herself admitted on national television that at 2:30 in the morning,
she urged Charlie to sleep alone in their daughter's room so he could rest better before Utah. In the morning,
Charlie grabbed his ring and his necklace from the bathroom and left for this huge, very important event without saying goodbye to his wife. It's been
reported that shortly before his he messaged one of his friends saying, "It feels like it's over." A lot of people interpreted this as him talking about
his life, but I think it's very obvious he was talking about his marriage. I think the night of September 9th, there was a fight and Charlie and Erica
decided that they would be getting a divorce. Now, I believe the only explanation that makes any sense is around the same time of Charlie
messaging his friends that it's over in reference to his marriage. Erica also messaged the donors saying it's over.
not only in reference to her marriage to Charlie, but in reference to all hope being lost that he would ever come back to their side politically because he
literally texted other people that he would be leaving the Israel cause.
Yes. So, what was stuck in my head for the longest time is the fact that Erica and Charlie through the years traveled
almost everywhere together. Even after they had kids, they were usually together. Tip USA events, any vacations,
trips. It's well documented that Erica was mostly there, sometimes even speaking on those events herself. So,
it's very weird to me that he flew to Asia. Such an incredible trip. Not something you do every day. And Erica
didn't tag along. And then he came back from the trip. They don't sleep in the same bed. And he leaves the house
without even kissing her goodbye. And they decide that she won't be joining him at UVU either. This chain of events is suspicious to me. It's like they
didn't want to spend time together. They he wanted to distance himself or something. Not saying it's true, just what it looks like to me. Especially when we remember this clip as well.
Actually sitting in his office. This is his home office. And I have not been in here for a very long time. And
I've just been That's part of the reason why I keep looking down. It's not because I'm not wanting to look at you.
15 minutesIt's because like there are so many treasures in here. Like for instance,
like this piece of paper. He wrote on everything. He has papers everywhere.
This says it's the priorities. It says family, children, legacy, kids number one. Um versus careerism, consumerism,
and loneliness. That's interesting.
Was he trying to make a pros and cons list? Stay married or not? And of course, let's not forget the missing wedding picture from the shelf behind
Erica, which was always there and then suddenly wasn't. Now, I am not sure about those texts he's claiming Charlie
sent about it being over. We know about texts they are going to kill me that he sent to Andrew Kov and Brian Harpool. He
allegedly fought with donors on that day and prior and for weeks. But a lot of people entertained the idea that maybe
the night before Charlie found out who his wife really was. Whatever it was, it
just doesn't sound normal. Doesn't sound innocent. The whole thing, at least to me. Okay, back to Marco's video. Now,
from the donor's perspective, the looming divorce between Charlie and Erica not only could represent the end of Turning Point USA, from an optics
perspective would be absolutely catastrophic, but also represents the fact that the very last string on their puppet, which was Erica, is gone. So,
they had no choice but to do what the mob does when you don't listen to them after you take their money, which is to get rid of you. And we all know what
happened next. Conveniently, a 22-year-old from 142 yards away with the best shot in the entire world got rid of Charlie just in time to save Turning
Point USA and anoint the new CEO, which is of course Erica Kirk. Just in time,
right before Charlie was able to announce the divorce or the fact that he was leaving the cause, nobody in the history of political ass has ever acted
as bizarre as Erica Kirk. And I think that thing we're all registering as inauthenticity is actually guilt. Not
only did Erica Kirk immediately accept the lone gunman narrative that doesn't make any sense for a multitude of
reasons, she actually scolded the public for demanding answers and for being skeptical. The only reason she's not
demanding answers is because she knows exactly who did it and why. Within of theation, the domain Vance Kirk 2028 was purchased.
The domain was purchased after Charlie was gone. And now is the time to remember the clip I showed you earlier in this video where Charlie said he
wasn't interested in running for office at all. So, it looks like, not saying it is like that, but if you put it on a
timeline, Tyler Boyer brings Erica over to TP USA and she wows Charlie. They get
married and she allegedly makes sure he stays on course and aligned with the billionaire's plans. Suddenly, Charlie says he doesn't want to be a president in the future or run for any office.
However, he has the ear of the current president and is ruining some plans there. He then starts turning on the little hat's cause who are the main
donors of his empire. His wife allegedly fights him on his current change of heart and their marriage starts collapsing. If it was a movie, this is the moment they would tell Erica, "Okay,
girl, it's your turn. You will take over for him when he's gone and we will make you the first female president of the USA." And the rest is history.
Allegedly. Erica immediately sprints to take the throne of her husband by becoming CEO of Turning Point USA and
publicly forgives the shooter on camera before we can even actually establish if he really was the killer or if he acted alone. [ __ ] And if you believe
that, you are a [ __ ] idiot. And just this week, the orange puppet appointed her to sit on the exact same seat on the
US Air Force Academy board that Charlie once had, advising on foreign policy.
the very foreign policy that created the emotional turbulence in her marriage with Charlie leading to a divorce and also the same foreign policy that
ultimately got him. 2028 is already written. You can expect to see her name on the VP short list. There is a reason
they are marketing her as the widow that overcame tragedy and Erica is finally getting what she married for all along.
Well, holy moly. The only thing that's missing here is proof. Can we see anything that would confirm this theory?
I need either screenshots or written testimony of someone because yeah, the theory fits perfectly. But is it true?
Marcus posted another video. I'm just going to play part of it for you.
I have never been so scared in my entire life because the information I am about to expose right now is going to
completely ruin Erica Kirk's entire story. I can't even believe I'm filming this. So, I got an email today from
someone that works at Aloe. I'm going to of course keep their identity anonymous.
This person emailed me and I'll put it on the screen that they work at Aloe and they looked up Erica's account and it
appeared that she had spent over $1,000 buying Aloe clothing the day after
Charlie was I can't remember everything she bought, but it was all black clothing.
Obviously, it's not that important, but I personally found it super sketchy. I also don't know. And then I'm she says something about where the where Erica lives. I'm not going to include that.
You can see a clear as day on the receipt, which I will show you guys for transparency, that Erica France, her
maiden name, purchased $1,043 worth of clothing on September 11th,
2025 at 11:10 a.m. Guys, put this into perspective.
I'm looking it up here. Charlie Kirk was announced to be at 4:00 p.m. on September 10th. Not even later,
Erica went home, woke up in the morning,
and bought an aloe tracksuit. I don't even know what's more egregious to me.
The fact that she went on a shopping spree not even after her husband was publicly
or the fact that she shops at Aloe because let's be honest, their clothing is extremely extremely overpriced for really really cheap material. I hate
Aloe. And the reason this doesn't make any sense is because like I was saying before, if she was buying like a black sweater, like all of Alo's clothing like
has a fat ass ugly Aloe logo on it and it's gym clothes. It's gym clothes.
You're not going to wear gym clothes to the wake. Which leads me to believe it had nothing to do with any. She just wanted to go on a shopping spree. It's
giving gone girl. Like, please tell me I'm not crazy. And like this, this is not the most insane thing you've ever heard. And if you don't believe me that
this is true, the third screenshot I have, it has her mailing address on it and it has her email and her
information, which I have verified it is her.
Okay. So, there are few possible explanations here. First one, which makes the most sense to me, is that she had a random realization that she didn't
own any black clothing and she needed some since she was going to appear in public a lot. She wanted to look presentable. So, I checked and she did
wear aloe tracksuit when she posted the pictures and videos with the casket.
That day, she wore that black tracksuit and I assume she needed one. She needed something fresh but comfortable. She wanted something appropriate, but you
know, she was getting on a flight with her husband's casket, so she didn't need a suit. She needed something,
you know, fitting, but appropriate. Here she is on that day. I circled the logo for you. Uh, it's the Alo logo. And here is another image.
There it is. But she's wearing the same tracksuit in the post before Charlie's passing. Here is an example for you.
This is from the 3rd of September from her Instagram. I don't know if she already had a black set like that. She either decided she needed a new one,
more presentable one since she was going to be with the vice president and was planning to be filmed and photographed.
But it is also very possible that someone thought of it for her, right?
Someone like Stacy Sheridan who was running behind Erica filming her over Charlie with casket crying, etc. She might have thought of getting her some
new clothes. I don't perceive this alone as some mind-blowing piece of evidence right now, but maybe I'm also numb to what Erica did right after her husband's
passing because it was all so bizarre that nothing is bizarre anymore. Do you know what I mean? First, he's unalived.
The same day, she says his legacy must continue. That's her reaction after seeing him. The next day, she spends 1k
on shopping and then goes on camera and does a sales pitch for TP USA and mentions Charlie a little bit. But even
though she spent $1,000 on black clothes, for some reason, she's wearing a white suit. The next day, she posts a
video of herself with a casket with Charlie actually crying over him. After that, we find out that she goes back to
the office and she tells people she's excited for what's to come and that Charlie would want everyone to get back to work. Then she does a sitdown
interview with New York Times. Then she steps out on stage at Charlie's memorial amongst fireworks and forgives the
alleged shooter before he's even tried in court. Then she says, "We pulled off the event of the century." and brags
about how much merch was sold. Merch designed based on the t-shirt her husband wore when he was unalived. All
this within first 11 days. Okay, doesn't get more bizarre. Nothing will surprise me. Nothing will shock me. It's all
25 minuteseffed up. It's weird. It might be just that weirdness. Nothing more to it. But because we live in a very, very evil world, and I wouldn't be surprised if
more came out of this story and Erica's role in this whole thing. But for now,
it's all allegations. Let's go with the trend she started and say we forgive her. But as usual, I want to know what
you guys think. Was Charlie's and Erica's marriage over? Do you believe Marcos and his take on all this? Let me know in the comments. If you enjoyed
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Chapter 1: Start.
All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. I'm happy this Tuesday because Blakey Nef Blakey Nef is back in the feray. My arch
nemesis, also my best friend, super fan of the show, by the way. We definitely have to send him some kit. I was asking the producers, what should we send him?
We should maybe send him some some Maca hats. Make America Christian again. I don't know. We got to get a package over to Blake because he had things to say
again on X. He's always having a little mini spiral about our show. We're going to get into it and I will debunk him. He
called me a liar. That is bold choice of words. Bold accusation coming from anyone at Turning Point USA. But first,
I got to tell you guys about this YouTuber. You've heard about her before on this show. She made a rather shocking discovery regarding the footage uh that
Terrell took down mysteriously. And lastly, we received a stunning tip about
Erica Kirk's mother, the Lori. The Lori and gun sales is everybody in the
1 minuteindustry. What industry is it that everybody is in? That's what I want to know. Everyone but me, apparently. Welcome back to Candace.
[music]
Chapter 2: Was the behind the book footage shared with me edited?
So, I say this often, but it I should always repeat it. There are a lot of people who have contributed to this crowdsourced investigation into Charlie
Kirk's death. YouTubers who do not get nearly enough credit for their amazing discoveries. One such YouTuber is Ni.
Okay, Ni is the one that brought us, if you recall, the investigation into the strange text messages that Erica shared
with a then 15year-old Jillian. We then picked up on her investigation and added to it. That's how the crowd sourcing works. And we were recently inundated
with emails to our tips box about another discovery that Nissi has made.
This time pertaining to the camera behind Charlie's head. We revealed that footage, never-before-seen footage, the
one that Terrell raced, the footage that he raced to take down just minutes after Charlie was struck. Literally, I I think
we estimated about four minutes after Charlie was struck after he recorded himself. Amazing. Still, we should never
forget that none of the Turning Point employees called 911. Not Mikey, not
Blake, not Terl. That was not their instinct. Ter was perhaps the worst,
almost worse than Mikey walking away uh would be Ter recording himself in a selfie video. Anyway, Ni discovered that
the camera footage, which was shown to me on FaceTime, was likely edited, and she suppi she supplied some very
compelling evidence uh for this. So, I want you to take a listen to what she shared. In this footage that Ter has
selectively shared with Candace, we can't see the ground where Charlie had been sitting. You're probably thinking,
"Okay, so what?" Well, I'll tell you what. Actually, I'll show [snorts] you what. On February 28th, 2025, the
American Comeback Tour did a stop at Florida State University. And here is the back camera shot. On March 3rd,
2025, the American Comeback Tour did a stop at the University of Southern California. And here is the back camera
shot. Here's San Francisco. Here's San Diego, Long Beach, Boise, Idaho,
Washington State. Do you notice a pattern? The camera is a wide-angle camera and was always used as such.
However, in the footage that Tero has selectively shared with Candace, you cannot see the ground. So either that
day at UVU they had changed things up and they had zoomed in the camera so that you couldn't see the area around
Charlie or Terl had zoomed in after the fact and he was showing a cropped version of the footage to Candace.
Either way, it gives the impression that they're hiding something.
Ni gosh, I'm just I'm so happy that you brought that forth. Honestly, common sense. There were so many things that I
was saying around how bizarre that footage was, but I should have looked at it and said, "What is this shot actually? Where is this shot going to?"
And you know what, Ni, I was actually remarking to my team that it certainly seemed to me that Terrell may have at the very least edited the video video.
And the reason why is because, well,
first and foremost, it took him two days to get back to me after our initial conversation. So, just to to remind everybody, I phoned him on September the
17th because the footage started going viral of him taking down the camera. I recognized him. I didn't think anything of it. I was like, "Oh, maybe there's a
reason." Common sense reason in my head would might have been like, "Oh, maybe the cops asked him to. The feds were on the scene a little too quickly that day,
actually." And then he got all weird. He was hesitant coming up with all sorts of excuses uh why he couldn't show me the footage. He didn't want to put the
footage out there. He wanted to protect the footage. She wanted to protect Erica. By the way, in retrospect, even that's weird. Like, why right away are you speaking to Erica about the back footage? Like, why does she care? Like,
there's so much so many more important things. Why do you care? Especially since she said she never watched any footage. Parking that aside, that
conversation I had with him was on the 17th and I was like, "You're being weird. You're being weird. You're being weird." And then on the 19th, he sort of broke and said, "Okay, no, let's just
get on the call. I'm happy to show you the footage." So I I think in those two days he had figured out a way to show me the footage uh which he thought would
sort of assuage my suspicion and I can add to your investigation by showing you
the beginning of our FaceTime conversation which I had initially cut because it wasn't he wasn't showing me the footage but it was me and him
speaking and I did see him open the file on his computer desktop. So, let's take a look at that early footage of the beginning of our conversation.
And so, you can see obviously this is FaceTime. You can see that he is opening up the file. And this is how it begins.
Now, I'm going to freeze frame that for you again because there are people who know more about cameras and whether you're hooking things up. Uh, this is
what that looks like. There we had uh wondered oursel there. It it seems to be a Sony camera and Sony camera certainly
does have uh if you put in the SD card into your computer, it will open it obviously your drive will appear on your
desktop and then you will see um they automatically label a folder clip. Okay,
that's just our basic research. Feel free to dispute me guys who know much more about cameras and but it is my
suspicion the thing that's kind of now making me go what the heck. It is my suspicion that that YOLO drive that
you're seeing on the left hand side is likely what he named his SD card. And what is wrong with that and I'll tell you why that is my suspicion. What is
wrong with that is Carol shouldn't have the SD card.
the thing that you have me thinking. I'm going back now and revisiting again. I told you I suffered effectively a brain trauma uh that I couldn't come back from
having watched Charlie die and then trying to process why I was suddenly fighting people that I thought were his friends um in the media and things that were being said about me. Now I'm
thinking how strange it is that Terrell didn't just say to me, I don't have the footage because the feds were on the ground and of course they should they confiscated it. like I took the SD card
out because it had to be given to the feds. Terl and I are speaking on the 17th and on the 19th and at no point in
our conversations does he say to me, I don't have the footage or I don't have the SD card. I'm specifically asking him
why he removed the SD card. That was the nature of our discussion. Why did you remove the SD card from the camera? Why
did you take the camera down? And his answer was because he wanted to protect Erica. He didn't want Erica to see the footage.
He had a conversation with Erica. He didn't want her to see uh Charlie dying again. Then he says when I say, "Okay, well, can I see it?" He doesn't say,
"Oh, no. Obviously, I had to then give it to the feds." At no point did he say to me that he gave the SD card to the feds. That suddenly feels very relevant.
That's insane. That is totally insane.
So now we have a situation where Charlie's phone, we've learned, was not given to the feds. That should have been kept by the feds. That should have been
secured by the feds. That should have been uh like Tyler Robinson's phone or Lance Twig's phone secured by the feds.
Um and now we know that they also again on the basis of my conversation with him and what I believe that we are looking
at there that Terrell was able to take that footage back to Arizona. He is opening that on his desktop in Arizona
back in Scottsdale. That doesn't make sense to me and it is problematic. What we know happens thereafter because we were playing devil's advocate. Me and my
producers and Ashley had suggested well well maybe that's the reason. Maybe the feds didn't know that Terrell had it.
Maybe they found out on your show that Terrell had the footage and that's why they started putting pressure on um
Justin Strife to call your husband and see if you had recorded the footage.
Maybe it was the first time they were aware of it. And I said, "Well, no, that can't be the circumstance. They couldn't have found out on my show because the entire reason we were covering it and
why I was reaching out to Terrell was because it was viral. People saw him taking down the footage and suddenly it was viral. Don't you think they would
have noticed all of the cameras right away? They would have known we're missing back footage. There was a camera right there. First thing a police officer does, is that a camera? Yeah.
Can I get the footage to that camera?
That camera? This camera? Why did the feds not take the footage from behind uh
Charlie's head? Why why did Terrell have it at all? So, yes, Ni, I I agree with you. Um that it is very likely that he
zoomed in on that footage. And I believe the reason he did that was to obscure our view of the ground. And the question we have to ask ourselves now is why?
what was on the ground or what happened on the ground within that view. What did that camera capture specifically that is
worth hiding? It has to be something that would solve Charlie's murder.
That's my position and I'm going to stick to that. I think that Tyler Robinson's defense team, if you are watching, and I hope you are cuz we're
helping you a lot here, that's the footage that you need to get. That footage should not be zoomed in. She's correct. Turning Point has that footage
and it should show you the entire ground area. Um, what happens, what the security guard, the security guards do
uh when after after Charlie goes down and also the a aftermath. It may go a very long way in terms of capturing
Charlie's true assassins. Again, that's my opinion. And um regarding that setup,
I actually told you guys early on that I had tabled with Charlie for years all across the United States, beyond the
United States actually. Um events from the East Coast, all down the East Coast all the way to Hawaii. And the entire
setup was strange and new. Charlie oddly is on a chair that is upon a platform that seats him above the table.
Why?
Why? Why was Charlie on a platform and then put on top of a chair on top of the platform above a table? Look at this.
Why? He's under a tent and then put up onto a platform. We were never on platforms when we tabled. Charlie was
6'5 in. He didn't need help seeing above a table. This is not Ben Shapiro on tour, okay? It's Charlie Kirk. He was always here.
When and why did they start building this weird little platform stage for Charlie? We'll show you again slowing down the stills from Ni. Going back,
here's a platform still. Um, you can see Charlie on this random platform two. But again, he's still below the table,
right? Platform uh three. Okay, that you can see they're just building a little mini stage maybe to level the ground. Still seems strange to me. But then he's on this platform.
Utah, he's just way above the table.
Why? Why were they doing this? And even I think something that is even stranger is the camera shot behind Charlie's
13 minuteshead. Why? Who needs it? How is that angle at all necessary in a Q&A segment? What are you getting from that angle?
Actually, I'm seriously like, who was like, "We need an angle behind Charlie's head. I told you that was brand new."
And it feels a bit to me like they were intentionally boiling the frog. And now,
in case you're not from America, you're not familiar with that expression,
boiling a frog. Boiling the frog is just a metaphor uh for doing something slowly, like think of literally the idea
of a a frog. Um and the idea is the frog if you if you just boil it slowly will stay in the pot, right, until it gets
hot. And but if you put them right away when the pot is boiling, put the frog into the pot, it'll the frog will jump out. It's just a metaphor, though. You shouldn't try that with frogs at home.
It's a just a metaphor for how you won't react to dangerous changes if they happen slowly over time. So, we looked back and I said, "When did they start
putting that camera view?" And we couldn't find a time before late 2024 when Charlie is tableabling and there's
a camera directly behind his head that appears to have arrived in 2025.
Right. And I want to know if we're correct. I'd like the internet to figure out precisely when this weird view became desirable for turning point
events because we noted it just as Ni noted it as a part of the American comeback tour.
Suddenly they start boiling the frog.
He's got this this weird camera behind his head like like people it was in hot demand. Please, we must know what's going on behind Charlie's head. You want
to know Charlie's eyesight? You would put a camera to the right of him, to the left of him.
And the we checked the tour before. We said, "Okay, what was a tour before the American Comeback Tour in 2024?" That was his brainwashed tour. And here are
some examples of the tableabling. Look at this. Uh here is Charlie March 7th,
2024. There was no camera behind his head. Um here is Charlie on September 5th, 2024, the brainwash tour, uh the
University of Wisconsin. We go to the next one. There is no camera behind his head. And here is Charlie at Northern Arizona University on October 15th,
2024. Again, the brainwash tour. There is no camera behind his head.
Why the change?
Why? Why were we doing something new in 2025? Why Why is there so much brand new? I told you never in the history of
every Turning Point event that I did from 2017 all the way through 2024 did we have a camera behind our head.
I want answers. I want answers. That also seems to have arrived specifically with the big sponsorship deal with Y
refi as well. I'll also state that. Um these are things that should be explored. Great job, Ni. Now, I want to switch gears here to travel back to late
Chapter 3: Lori's gun deal?
fall 2016, just before the election, the big election, Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump is traveling all throughout the country,
giving us oneliners about Hillary Clinton. The media does not think that she can be beat. And I know what you're thinking right now. You're thinking,
"But what were Lorie France and Erica Kirk doing at that time?" Great question. That is exactly the right
question, my friends. And I have an answer, a very strange answer. Okay, so Lori and Erica's stepfather, Larry, who
we have not done really any research on Larry Ginta. I probably should have included that in my Erica series, but
what they were doing at that time is they were trying to get in on a gun company. A gun company. Now, I don't
know how this just keeps happening, but these are the facts. Okay. So, Lori came into contact with a couple of guys who
had filed a patent. So, they had a patent pending that was for a unique gun. Think about the story that we told
17 minutesyou with Fold AR. First AR that's going to fold. I want this in the backpack um of every school resource officer. That's
Corby Hall's story. In comes Victor Marx. I'm interested in this. And and what's the conclusion of that? Victor Marx wants the patent for Israel. Let me
remind you, Victor Marks wanted the patent for Israel. He wanted to push Corby Hall out and get him a deal so that he would sell the patent to Israel.
Okay. Similarly, Lorie Fronfay and Larry were interested in a gun pending patent.
And this was going to be a gun that was and is today the only now patent approved weapon that features
interchangeable calibers. Okay? So you can put different different rifling in each of the cylinders. It's essentially
a convertible weapon so to speak. For those of you who are like me and not up on your weaponry, that is incredibly unique to be able to do that. They
accomplish that um by extending the cylinder. The patent today is actually approved. Anyway, the story goes that Lori, remember I we had showed you that
she had gone to this expo um this exposition up in Salt Lake City in Utah.
[snorts]
And this is when she was hawking her GT tech GTE Industries, her EMP doomsday
tech. Showed you this. And I'm going to say allegedly here, but I am telling you the truth. Allegedly, at this time, she
and Larry um meet some the guys that have this patent pending and they offer to introduce these guys to their angel
investor for GTech Industries. So they set up a dinner back in Scottsdale,
Arizona. Again, this is going to be late 2016. At this dinner, you have Lori, you
have Larry Ginta, and the two wouldbe company owners. Again, I want to be clear, the gun was not yet manufactured.
So, they were there to discuss only the patent, a potential deal for it, um, and what they could offer in exchange for
it. The answer being we have access to government contracts.
Of course they do. Yeah, we know that Lori was doing deals with the government for her EMP tech.
Was she going to do the deal with the government for for guns?
I don't know. But I'll tell you what my favorite part of the story is. My favorite part of the story is who strolls in unannounced at this dinner to
sweeten up the potential deal. None other than Erica France. You could just see it. Arizona's beauty queen arrives
fashionably late to the dinner all dalled up, looking very glamorous. So the story goes, she's very familiar with everybody in the restaurant. She's a little bit of a hometown hero. Uh hello,
hello. Oh, hi. Hair blowing in the wind,
right? And then she takes her seat at the restaurant table and dives into this
20 minutesuh discussion, this business discussion about selling or uh potentially acquiring a piece of the company, doing this little exchange. And you just have
to love it. To me, her and her mom are like Bonnie and Clyde. And I'm told that during this discussion, uh, Erica then drops the fact that she has and and her
mother her mother says, "Oh, well, she's it's not known yet, but she's just now dating a guy that has some very big political connections. They're just a
couple of months into dating." Because that's that sweetens the deal a little bit. Oh, you got this beautiful girl,
and now you realize this girl has access to someone who was a player, right? And the person in retrospect thought that
she was talking about Charlie Kirk, but she actually wasn't. At this time,
according to our timeline, Erica was dating Cabbat Phillips. Cabbat Phillips did have he was on Ellen Degenerous. He had a little thing going with his
brothers uh early on. And so that's was to suggest they he never said the name,
but she's got a political boyfriend who's got some connections as well. And oh, look, she's Miss Arizona, right?
Well, fortunately uh for the men that were involved with the patent, nothing actually ever materialized from that
meeting. But it sure is interesting that Lorie France was interested
in the weapons industry, particularly in the unique gun industry. guns, unlike guns that had ever been made before
industry, the kind of industry that Victor Marx was into. And this person, apparently,
the person that was involved with this patent, eventually got into a little uh lawsuit with Victor Marks. I don't know who. I have to dig it up. I'm still researching that.
But it's just a tangled web that we keep weaving our faith leaders. Remember Erica says
she learned everything that she knows through the steadfast commitment and the faith of her mother. That her mother sort of like was just this faith woman.
I looked into Lori. I feel differently about her. Okay. [laughter] So if she learned everything from her mother, that
should terrify you. That should absolutely terrify you. It terrifies me in the retrospect.
Man, I wish I had uh done a deep dive on Erica when Charlie had met her. I just wanted him to find a girl, settle down.
I knew I knew how much he wanted that and so I just was too much of the wingwoman. But uh this just can't keep
happening you guys. The pattern that I am seeing here uh guns,
trafficking,
sex trafficking, charities always charitable, Erica always somehow just floating around.
Something right here. Something is not right. And as I mentioned to you guys before, as we started to see people always like, you know, one degree away
23 minutesfrom Jeffrey Epstein, one degree away from Israel, um, sometimes less than that, one of the things that just
strikes me as as as really compelling is to consider the timeline. Jeffrey Epstein goes down in
2017, right? Did Jeffrey Epste down 2017? I think it was 2017 20 20 maybe 2018 actually and suddenly like we're
supposed to believe his entire network crashed and burned and everyone was like okay it's a global trafficking network that began with weapons. I keep
reminding you guys Jeffrey Epstein we we speak about the files and we talk about the blackmail and we talk about the sex
but Jeffrey Epstein began his career in weapons trafficking the Iran Contra scandal. How do we know that? because a
former MSAD agent testified to that effect that he was introduced by Robert Maxwell and brought into the Iran Contra affair. They've tried to bury that
connection, but you can certainly found it. We did in our Epstein series uh thankful thankfully because of the
journalism of Xavier Prousard um who over in France. Don't forget that I believe like I've said multiple times
that Jeffrey Epstein's network reemerged and I think it reemerged in the not for-p profofit world. I'm speculating,
but I'm also really good at puzzles. And I just don't see how certain patterns can just keep happening that like
faithful people can truly just be interested all in the exact same thing.
Uh, human sex trafficking. And I got to tell you, there are still more connections to be added that we have not yet shared yet. Anyway, we are going to
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Chapter 4: Blake Neff calls me a liar.
Okay. So, Blake Nef, you know, he's uh he has a talent of sorts. He has a way of just always sort of leaning into a
conversation when actually nobody cares about his opinion and never responding when we make a pretty big claims. You
know, he responds to nothingness. And then we're like, "Hey, Blake, while you're here, could you answer our question about this big thing, this big
topic that we have brought to the forefront of the American conscience?"
No. So, yesterday he just took a random shot at me and here's what he said. It was kind of shocking that he said this,
actually. He wrote in the opening of her show today, which thank you for watching my show. Um, Candace claims, quote,
"Liars on the internet have falsely claimed that Tyler Robinson's family turned him in and that they have falsely claimed his parents quote recognized Grandpa's gun on the news." End quote.
Which is impossible, she says, since no photos of the gun were released before Robinson's arrest. This is a remarkably precise way to be dishonest because when
one simply bothers to read the charging document, one sees that Robinson's parents did not recognize the gun. They
recognized photos of the suspect which were released by the FBI as looking like their son. Only then did they move on to suspecting that the rifle was a match.
And at that point, the FBI had already announced that they had found a highowered bolt-action rifle. We know Candace has seen all this. It's worth
asking why would she so deliberately misrepresent the evidence. So, he quotes me as saying, "Liars on the internet
have falsely claimed that he his parents recognized the gun." And so I think what's going on is they've changed the story so much, like I say, the FBI is
making it up as they go along that they forget the lies they told us yesterday,
like they forget what money they've spent on influencers to influence us about uh certain topics or certain facts yesterday because then they moved on.
They're like, "Oh no, we can't do that anymore." And that is what Blake is succumbing to here. So I just obviously tweeted right back at him the headlines.
There were many headlines which said exactly what I shared like this one in the Daily Mail. Tyler Robinson's father
realized his son was shooter after seeing family heirloom in media reports.
And then I had shared with him another one that was on MSN that they had he had recognized the rifle. And by the way,
since you're speaking about the charging document, which I have read many times over and over again, that's exactly where they were getting it from. Not
what the police officer said, but from Tyler Robinson's, and by Tyler Robinson's, I mean the Fed's very sloppy messages that they put together. Uh,
this is the text message, Blake, that people used to deduce that his dad might
have seen the rifle on the news. He wrote, "My dad wants photos of the rifle." He says, "Grandpa wants to know
who has what. The feds released a photo of the rifle, and it is very unique.
He's calling me right now, not answering." Well, if you read that message, Blake, it kind of sounds like the reason his dad is calling him is
because the feds released a message of the rifle, and it's very unique. He doesn't sound like he's saying it was a generic release, which it was. So,
that's why this didn't really make sense. it was fair for the media to conclude on the basis of those messages that his dad recognized it and that's
why he was calling Tyler. So, I hope that helps. I know it's difficult. Like I said, when you lie, you have to have a good memory. That's what Judge Judy
always instructed to people. If you're going to be a liar, you better have a good memory. And you, my friend, do not have a good memory. But while we have
your attention, Blake Nef, there was this huge claim that we made on the show um about a week ago where I said that I
spoke to multiple donors who tell me that the audio that you released of Charlie Kirk saying, "I appoint Erica
Kirk to be the CEO and chairman if something ever happens to me." They claim that he never said that in Aspen. They claim
Erica actually was in Aspen even though she didn't attend the event and that Charlie definitively never said that on stage. Nor did he say it in a smaller
dinner uh that took place with about 10 to 12 people is my understanding. That's a pretty big claim I'm making there,
Blake. I'm saying that I have proof. I have at least testimony uh from donors,
your donors that say that they believe that that is AI and you have testified to the public or Erica rather. um
certainly explained to Megan Kelly, you guys were the ones that introduced this that you have the video and yet you declined to share the video.
What a beautiful site that would have been. Charlie Kirk O opening Amfest um
a video of him saying I appoint Eric Kirk and then Erica Kirk walks out. Wow.
There wouldn't have been a dry eye in the place Blakey Nef. So why didn't you guys move to show that? That doesn't
seem like you guys. That seems out of the ordinary. You guys have I mean you you put up a tent, a recreation of a
tent that Charlie had died under for selfies. You're It kind of feels like if you had the video, you would have shared it. And instead, you got angry at me when I suggested that you should share
the video. And you accused me of being a psychopath with with a with a gun or a knife rather on a subway. And that's why
you couldn't share it. Okay. You don't need to share it with me, Blake. you should share it with people in the world because it just makes sense to do that.
So yeah, while we have your attention,
could you respond to that much more severe allegation rather than just responding to me telling the truth? Could you actually
respond uh to me asserting that your own donors think that you may have used AI and then lied to the public because you
wanted them to accept Erica in the role of Charlie Kirk?
Any kind of response would be great here. You could say that's not true. The donor's lying. He did say it. We do have the video. We just want to keep it in a vault. I wouldn't recommend you say that. That would be another stupid lie.
Well, you kind of did say that, but um yeah, if you could just respond to that,
Chapter 5: Laura Loomer attacks me again...
that'd be great. Anyway, on to greener pastures. I guess greener pastures.
Laura Loomer is trending for a tweet that she directed to me yesterday that upset a lot of people. It upset them because it was just so shockingly dark
and demonic. This is the tweet that I am referring to that's trending. Uh it's directed to me after yesterday's episode. She said, "God hates you at
real Candaceo. It's why he gave Charlie to Erica and why you didn't even get to say goodbye to him. God hates you. Look in the mirror and internalize how much
God hates you. We all hate you. Humanity hates you and you are irredeemable." And this caused a reaction across the internet. I think like 6,000 people replied to that tweet alone in a ratio.
And I think I was going, why are people surprised by this? And I realized um they don't know who Laura Loomer is. And
I I think maybe these people don't take us literally when we say that Trump that's one of his top adviserss
is surrounded by people who are quite literally in need of an exorcism. I'm not saying that for dramatic effect. I am saying literally he is surrounding
himself people that have are I think demonstrabably demonic,
right? That that's a that's what people were so like that's just demonic. That's very straight. It doesn't hurt anybody's feelings. It makes me uncomfortable to be around you. That seems like you you
know worship ball. That's that's why you would say something like that. That's very weird thing to say. And that's kind of what I'm trying to clue you guys into. That is why Laura Loomer has
become significant because we can look at her to understand the erraticism of Donald Trump, our president. He doesn't seem like the same person. He seems as
though he has been possessed. That's his top adviser. According to her, multiple times a day, she speaks to him on the phone. One of the first phone calls he
made after attacking Iran was to Laura Loomer. And so, it was important for me to break down who she is and to make sure that you lower your expectations
when it comes to people like her. Like I said, her goal is to harm people psychologically by lying. Just by lying
openly all the time. And I want you to know that in her own words, she has admitted to her addiction, which she has
described as cocaine-like, uh, to spectator because she'll say, "Oh, it doesn't matter. This is this this person's lying." Take Laura in her own
words, um, in an article that was done by the spectator here, which was called the tale of Laura Loomer, which was
published in 2019 where she described having anxiety and depression. She wrote, "I had really bad anxiety and depression, and then I started to
basically deal with depression by doing cocaine. I was never a drug user before,
but I was using cocaine to kind of deal with it." Laura was 23 years old. She continues, "There were phases when I wouldn't sleep for 3 days straight, and
one morning I woke up and drove myself to a cliff and it was cold and kind of snowy outside. It was February. I tried to kill myself. Like legitimately tried
to kill myself." Okay, so you can understand uh why she's not allowed to own guns. Suicide is nothing to mock. Uh but it is something that she uses as one
of her tools. Often uh she like I told you yesterday she makes suicidal threats and there is an aspect of her that feels
37 minutesvery homicidal. I I'm not being uh funny. I'm not trying to be ironic when I say that this is a person who should
not have access to the president of the United States. And everybody everybody sees that. And the fact that people
reflect and think if something happened to Trump, like I told you, people in, as I understand it, Melania's inner circle
have said this, that she would be the most likely person to harm Donald Trump.
And what would be crazy in the retrospect is that the whole world would go,
"Yeah, duh, duh." Like, if she harmed a person, everyone would look around and go, every single sign was there.
50 states you can't own a gun in, things that you have said and shared about yourself, threats that you have made to other people, the manner in which you
attack children. Like she she wants my children to suffer. As she said yesterday, she wants my children to suffer and live on the streets because
she doesn't like that I'm against what Israel is doing. She she's attacking my lawyers. She's attacking my in-laws.
That is the kind of person who is dangerous to themselves and to others.
And so, how did she deal with her cocaine addiction? If you're wondering why it seems like she tweets every five minutes and like she's deep in the throws of of a manic episode, well, she
explains in this article, "I have nothing to lose now." And by the way,
this is in the context of her having lost her Twitter uh access. This is uh I have nothing to lose now, so it's
liberating. She says, "I became addicted to social media. I kind of lived off of the adrenaline. It's not a very healthy lifestyle to live because when you stop
using cocaine, for example, you learn to cope with anxiety and depression in other ways. I pretty much substituted my lows for adrenaline rushes on Twitter.
When I got banned, I was honestly having withdrawals.
Okay, so it's it's a drug for her. Like Twitter is a drug for her and that's why she tweets into the wee hours of the morning saying crazy things spiraling in
these manic episodes. Um, and so I just want to make that clear to you. These are the people when you look at what Donald Trump is saying, what he is doing
and why he just does not seem like he is steady right now, like he does not seem like there is a sane voice. He went from
having the advice um of people like Charlie Kirk and radically flipped that
to people like Laura Loomer and Paula White Kaine. Okay, this is a real clip of of of Laura Loomer when she did Alex Jones a few years ago. Take a listen.
But what are they doing? I want to know what people are actually going to do. My life is ruined. Does anybody understand
how ruined my life is? I'm sick of it. I don't want to listen to people tell me that I'm a conspiracy theorist. They
don't know what it's like to be me. My life is ruined. Alex So, forget Laura Loomer. The question
40 minutesyou should be asking yourself is, is Donald Trump mentally fit to be president? If he makes a conscious
decision to tweet out that Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly and Candace Owens are mentally ill, while he invites
into his inner circle advice about what he should do to Iran, a person like Laura Loomer, who I when we're calling
her crazy and we're talking, this is a clinical diagnosis. It's not an opinion.
It's not funny. We're not using the word loosely. This is a clinical diagnosis. I personally think that Trump needs an intervention. I don't think the back
forth uh when I see the erraticism of the way he tweets it. It's almost as if he he's given access uh to his truth
socials to people like her, there is there's just there's an eroticism here that feels dangerous for our country,
right? like he doesn't care anymore that he's gotten to some point of desperation. Whether he is functioning under duress, um whether he is being
41 minutesblackmailed, I don't know. What I do know is this is not the Trump that we had for the first four years. And even
if you have hated him from the very beginning, if you love the idea that the Republican party is at war with each other, if you're still functioning
within the leftight paradigm, um you should pull yourself away and actually have a a broader sense of concern for
the country and want there to be actually an intervention. You should pray for Donald Trump. You should want there to be a sane voice in the room.
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Chapter 6: Comments.
All right, you guys. Um, we have new merch on the website. We've merged subscription tiers into one club,
Candace tier for $1.99 a month or for 120 a year. So, join. The book club is very interesting. Um, and we have just
been like it just making us understand the world in a whole new way. It feels like it's all happening right now. Uh, and like I often say on our book club,
all roads lead to France somehow, which is incredible. So, if you want to support the show, you can head to canison.com and grab yourself some kit,
maybe some kit that we're going to send to Blakey Nef. Okay. Top comment from last episode. A plain jane production
writes, "There is absolutely no way, no way that a judge can allow this to move forward if the defense hasn't been given
full disclosure." Yeah, it is going to be very interesting. I know a lot of people um had looked into the judge and thought that it was very suspicious that
he was appointed by Governor Cox and that he like didn't have the background and the experience for a case of this size. There was something new about him.
I I never covered it. This will be the tell. Uh like I said, a continuence is just it's basically like common courtesy
in court. Like unless you're I could see if you're like three years into something and you're like, "No, no, I want this to move on with it." But seven
months into the like the highest profile murder case in JFK, this is nothing. This is nothing to ask for. Obviously,
with the amount of stuff they have to look through, we looked they dumped 600,000 files on them in March and and you're arguing this, that does not sit
right with me and it should not sit right with you. And if this judge does not grant this continuence after effectively ensuring them that when they
rebutted immediately to putting a date on the calendar because of this very thing, remember the the defense said,
"Let's not put a day on the calendar until we have our discovery stuff and we we'll have a better idea." And the judge said, "Oh, no, it's all good. You know,
par for the courses. We can we can always bump it down the line." If that judge now does a 180, if the court does a 180 and it's like, "Actually, we can't bump this anymore because Erica has asserted her right as a victim." Um,
We'll know. We already know, you know,
we don't know, but we know. Uh but I think that at that moment, we will know know what's really going on with this
judge, and we will be locked in and covering it. Second, uh top comment is from Faith Central. She wrote, "A class
action lawsuit should be filed against the FBI on behalf of Tyler Robinson due to the FBI withholding evidence from the
defense." Do you know what I have thought about that? I have thought about what are the ways in which we can compel
information on the outside like should we learn their way where everyone's like just suing and ceasing and desisting and
should we learn their tools if we're compelling that sort of information.
It's a conversation worth having and it's probably a conversation that I I should have uh since I have so many lawyers all the time. I might as well
toss them a question about what can we do to get answers, you know, uh, from these organizations, from these people to get them to answer the basic
questions that the public deserves to know because I they like I said, they brought the public into this when they made the decision to assassinate Charlie
Kirk publicly. Okay? They don't get to then tell us, "Oh, well, you shouldn't mind." On that note, I do want to say
and uh put out an APB. Um, I just have this deep question that a deep
consideration about what happened to Charlie's body. And I don't really buy the idea, the reaction Erica had when
somebody asked asked her a question or why Fox News asked her that question when they said, "Oh, like she's like,
"Can I have one thing for my kids?" They asked about where he was buried and it was like, "One thing for your kids,
girl. You took us into the casket. We tal Why do you care?" Like it highly unusual. It would be highly unusual uh
for people to be going around wanting to like dig up a casket or the person's the person is dead. They're gone from this
world. There there does tend to be some basic reverence that people have. And if there's not, hey, guess what? You have a ton of money. You could get security um
48 minutesto monitor for a little bit until it's out of the public conscience. And I I had wondered because I learned early on that she had moved the body a couple of
times and that doesn't sit right with me. There was no reason to do that. And I am wondering if they cremated Charlie's body. That's a yes or no
question. You don't need to tell me where Charlie's body is, but did you cremate him? Yes or no?
And so if you have information pertaining to that, if you have a yes or no answer to that, and at first his body
was taken to a place that was a a burial plus cremation services, and then it was
taken somewhere else, and then it was taken to a third place. And I am just wondering whether or not Charlie was
ever buried or whether or not he had a Catholic funeral mass. and um then he was cremated.
I think that's a fair question given where we are at in this investigation.
It's a yes or no question. Was Charlie Kirk cremated? He was.
We [snorts] are just um we'll be in a whole new place, guys. We will be in a whole new place. If you have information
uh pertaining to that, more tips at candacewowens.com.
More tips at candacewowens.com. We will protect your identity entirely. You can trust us. We have protected our sources from the very beginning. We still protect our sources. There has not been
anyone um that has been outed as one of our sources. And if I was compelled to testify, I wouldn't uh because this matters to me and I want I want to know um whether or not Charlie was cremated.
I find her reaction to be very strange.
Actually, I don't think it was for her kids. I don't think she does anything for her kids. Just looking at everything, being frank, I don't I don't think the priority for Erica is her kids
where he's buried. I that doesn't feel right. Anyway, uh getting into some of your comments from today's episode. Keeping faith with Father Joseph writes,
"Canis, I have footage that could change the investigation. DM me. Email it to us. Um I'll look out for that." More tips at kanithowens.com.
Thank you. Bigfoot believer writes,
"When the investigation began, you mentioned that you felt that the shot came from the left of Charlie. I wonder if that is visible [snorts] in Terl's
footage, which is why he zoomed. I have a big test tomorrow. Took a break to watch you. You need a bit of luck, good luck on your test. Study hard, but don't
study too hard because you get to that point where you're actually not even retaining any information. And it's best to uh study right before you go to sleep and then wake up fresh and a lot of
information will come to you. Uh Alaska dog lady writes, "Everyone wants to make fun of us Catholics until they need an exorcism." I'm looking at you, Larry.
Yeah, that she is very much in need of an exorcism. That's the only thing that can explain that. the places that her
mind goes and she doesn't understand that that's not like a normal person doesn't get there. Just weird. You don't get there. You don't want to harm kids.
You don't want kids to like here's what we do to our kids. I want our kids to live on the streets. It's like, okay,
man. You're making everybody uncomfortable here. Uh Spyro writes, "Loomer's whiteboard notes are so sad. Blank days until election. Stay focused.
No drama. Hit goals. Victory. I need a registry for all her supporters. I want to know which stupid people are even more stupid behind closed doors. Yeah. I
mean, her whole life is Donald Trump and she if you go back and look at her tweets, it's not you don't say like I
love like she's like I I'm in love. I love it's it's giving fatal attraction and I Trump will not get out of that
with his hands clean. You don't get to make deals with devils and then think that you're not going to suffer down the line, right? The devil always collects.
You want someone to do your dirty work,
but be aware that they know your secrets. You don't think she's recording you keeping a file on you? Like that's that will be something one day. And so
the the Trump family made a big mistake welcoming that in. Unstable is unstable.
Mentally insane is mentally insane. Uh Nay writes, "I'm wondering if Cash Patel's country singing superstar girlfriend will write some songs and
perform them for us at the show Trial of the Century. I'm wondering if she's maybe helping with the text messages."
the fed slot messages. You know, there was this line that they added in now that people have been going through the affidavit, you know, they had some
ellipses at various points in the messages that we got and they've added sentences and one of them was I hope I'm not kidding. This is in Tyler Robinson's messages. I hope that uh Pooch,
referring to the dog, he said the Kines's were here. I hope that pooch has a bad sniffer.
That's what Tyler Robinson wrote to Lance. We're supposed to believe that.
And I feel like that could be a country song. I was in a country that had bad sniffers
cashing like I don't I feel they were just kind of writing some music when they did those text messages. It's
possible, right? It's more plausible than what they're selling us right now.
53 minutesThat's how I feel. And I feel like Cash Patel right now suing um is it the Atlantic because they said
that he's a drunk. I actually feel like the Atlantic's argument should be that that makes him look good, right? It's
much more damaging and defamatory and mortifying to your brand to think that you're doing this in your sobriety,
right? Drinking would be a great excuse for like an FBI, the head of the the DOJ coming out and being like, "My girlfriend's a sensational country."
Like, that's really mortifying. But if you're drunk, like, "Oh my god, what did I say last night? Oh my, that was crazy.
No, I didn't mean that. I was just drunk, guys. That was crazy. Oh, man.
That's none of that's real. So, I think he should go with that. I think he should go with excessive drinking. The Atlantic should argue they were trying
to make him look good and offer an explanation for the things that he has said and the things that he has done and that the average person finds that to be
54 minutesgood for him. That'd be better than him really in his sobriety doing some of these things. Anyways, that's my opinion. I'm sticking to it. Matthew
writes, [snorts] "So Blake Neap is brave enough to reply to you on X, calling you a liar, but won't come into your studio to prove you're a liar." Yeah, that doesn't sound childish and cowardice at
all. Man up, Blake. Lol. Look, he doesn't have to come to my studio. Like,
it's so tech is just so easy. We can just appear on the Charlie Kirk show. He can just appear on the Candace show. I
don't I would welcome the conversation particularly about the AI. I don't feel these donors are making that up. They
were pretty shocked. Shocked to hear that it was the Aspen uh little retreat thing that it came from. They're certain
that Charlie never said it. I I would reply if I was Turning Point USA. We'll see. Tar writes Taraya writes Laura
Loomer is very dangerous, especially if she has been given access anywhere near the president of the United States.
Yeah, he's just playing with fire. Play play and then it burns down your whole house. I don't know. I I'm not uh these
other adviserss. So, you just have to let happen what is going to happen. And um we'll see. We'll see what happens.
Anyway, you guys, I will tomorrow we will have an interview for you with Corby Hall. Yes, I am very excited about this. Obviously, you know, Victor Marx uh did not want to join with Corby Hall.
So, we kept our appointment with Corby Hall and you will be able to hear his story about what Victor Marks had to say. Victor Marx is saying all these
demands, I'll do it. I get to bring my wife. Okay. No. Okay. You can just join the show, Victor Marks. Be normal. I'm going to let Corby tell his piece and
produ present his evidence and then you can similarly tell your piece and you can present your evidence. You don't get to bring your wife and list all of these
terms of engagement. Just I'll give you a dial in. How about that? I I feel like that's probably the most appropriate
thing given some more stuff that I have learned about you and Jimmy Barbecue.
Guys, this is going to sound crazy, but Jimmy Barbcue's watching the show.
I don't know what to say. I'm I'm a big deal in Haiti. That's what I want you guys to I'm a very big deal in Haiti. I got some boys out in Haiti. So, nobody
better mess with me. Okay? Nobody better mess with me is what I'm going to say.
So, you just be careful what you're saying at this toddler park. Cabbat Phillips. You just be careful cuz I'm out of my boot and I got some people in
Haiti, okay? And they'll take care of business for me. We'll see you guys tomorrow.
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THEY MISSED THIS - SEE WHO WAS TALKING TO HUNTER KOZAK MINUTES BEFORE CHARLIE'S LAST MOMENTS
Daily Freddo with Kasia
Apr 23, 2026



Transcript

I know that sometimes it feels like the investigation into what happened to Charlie Kirk goes into 20 different directions. People on the internet
looked into Tyler, into TPUSA, into Erica herself, the security team, Tyler's roommate, international affairs,
and so on. But a recent discovery by the public bureau of investigation on eggs has brought me back to looking into
Hunter Kak, the last person to speak to Charlie, to ask him a question before he was taken out. And of course, Zach
Koreshi, you remember the second person of interest that day, was allegedly driving from hospital to hospital looking for Charlie. What connects them,
you may ask. Look at this tweet. Zak Quareshi, who was detained after going to area hospitals looking for CK post
UVU, seen before the event talking to Hunter Kak.
Well, look at that. The people circled here are allegedly Zach Koreshi and Hunter having a chat. Now, I want to
quickly give you a background summary of each of those individual stories because it is important to understand why talking to each other is so significant.
Zach Quareshi was named by the police in a leaked audio at 3:11 p.m. after Charlie was analyzed. Let me play you a fragment of Baron's podcast that
explains what was happening and explains the audio itself. The Big Bang happened at . So at 12:23 to 3:11 is almost or no. Yeah,
almost . That's plenty of time for anyone who was at the event to get home cuz his dad, if you recall, said he had gone back to his apartment and he didn't know why he was detained. It was
just a comedy of errors. So what did the police say that this guy was doing in the meantime? So we'll listen to this and you guys tell me if his story lines up to his dad's story. I have my doubts,
but I will let you guys be the ultimate call cuz you guys are in fact the jury.
Continuing attempt to locate active shooter suspect tactical and a black mask possibly
carrying a rifle Toyota Corolla S820 Bravo Lima. Suspect
possible name Zachariah Query. date of birth 512 of 2000. The mail is going from hospital to hospital looking for
the victim. Again, use 100 notify if located in detail 1511.
So, if you didn't hear it, I'll read you the transcript here. Continuing to locate active shooter suspect, tactical vest, and a black mask, possibly
carrying a rifle. Who do they identify that person as? Driving a Toyota Corolla. Then they give a license plate. Then they say suspect, possible name,
Zachariah Koreshi. Then they give a birthday. To spoil the surprise, it's his birthday. The male is going from hospital to hospital looking for the
victim. The male is going from hospital to hospital looking for the victim. Then they say, "Use 100."
3 minutesThat is extreme caution. Use extreme caution and notify if located. Then they identify the time of that broadcast as
1511. And they go on and do a description one more time just in case you didn't get it. It's coming up.
height 5'11 198 lb hazel eyes blonde hair male end of broadcast 1511.
So again, end of broadcast 1511 height 5'11 198 hazel eyes blonde hair male.
That is an accurate description of the guy we just looked at. That is an accurate description of the guy that was just pooked up.
But his father said the opposite, that he had left the event and gone straight home and was at his apartment when police showed up. Those two versions don't fit together at all. Around ,
his car was reportedly seen. At ,
they put him out on dispatch. And later in the afternoon, they were trying to reach his landlord, which makes no sense
if he was already inside his apartment like his father claimed. So, what you were left with was this. He was definitely at the event. Then there was
a complete gap right after. Then police were actively tracking him hours later. And then he was picked up, questioned, and released the same day with nothing.
And then two, three-hour window in the middle was the part nobody ever properly explained. How did the police have his name? How come they mentioned his car?
He never reported his car stolen. We see Quoreshi or who allegedly is Quareshi in the picture there at around . He's
talking to Hunter Kak, but Zach didn't stay in the queue allegedly. Here is a tweet by Sam Parker. Zakareshi who was
arrested and questioned on the afternoon Charlie Kirk was unalived but later released by investigators can be seen here in the crowd.
Okay, you can see Zach circled there. It was weird to some people that he was looking to a completely different
direction that the rest of than the rest of the crowd. Here is another clearer image for you. There you go. Turned with
5 minuteshis back to the tent. But then someone tweeted, it was on the 15th of September, 14th of September. He's my
friend. I really feel sorry for him. He is really scared right now. I just talked to him. I swear to God, Zach is half deaf. As you can see in the
picture, he always turns one side to hear clearly. So,
not sure how true that is. It has never been mentioned in any of the articles about him from September 2025 or any
time after that that he was deaf or halfdeaf. But what is interesting to me is that if he is halfdeaf like his
friend says, why did he go all the way up after being seen speaking to Hunter much closer to the tent? I assume if he
was half deaf, he would want to be closer to the action to hear better. I found a clearer picture of him in which he looks like he was just talking to someone behind him. Here it is.
So, it looks like he's standing with those guys and they're chatting.
Not sure. He's literally the only, if you zoom out, he's the only person that is turned with his back to the tent because Charlie was speaking at this
point already. And then I found images of him facing the tent as well, like here. So like how real is that halfdeath
story right? Why to like if it's not real why to come up with it? Now a bit about Hunter Kak as a little refresher.
He was openly against Charlie. Not quietly, not subtly, openly he was involved with that an F America tour
which literally went to Charlie's events to challenge him and disrupt things.
This wasn't some neutral student who just showed up that day. He already had a history of showing up to these events with an agenda and he claims he goes to
UW anyway. And here's the thing, in the past, people from that group had their tickets revoked. They weren't always
allowed in. So the fact that this time there were no checks, no enforcement,
nothing means he could just walk in like everyone else. There was no security. On the day itself, he was selected to ask a
question. He was in that small group at the front talking with others about what they were going to ask. But according to
Henry Del who was standing right there with him, Hunter didn't actually say what his real question was going to be.
He kept it generally vague. And then when his moment came, he asked it right before everything happened. And it's
like a very coincidential question if you remember. Nobody could deny the odd coincidence of that question Hunter asked. the question Charlie was
answering when everything happened. All right, so let me show you the video of that student that recalls what happened and he talks about Hunter Kak.
Um, after we each kind of got selected,
they picked about four or five of us to be at the front of the line. Uh, we each kind of had about five five to six minutes where we just kind of discussed
like, hey, like what are we going to talk about? What what are your questions and what are your questions? You know,
8 minutesthere was a lady that was going to talk about some abortion issues, which was understandable. Charlie talks about them all the time. other was some racial issues and his was transgenderism and
you know the why people feel like they are something that they earn and u I never got anything out of that or even
heard anything where he was going to refer to anything about shooting. Uh I think it's I don't I mean I don't know if it was purposeful or not or what the
whole thing was but it was shocking to me just uh looking back after the events the sequencing of everything and uh I
think uh it kind of just leaves me guessing a little bit. So, this guy said that Hunter didn't reveal his exact question to anyone around him, but he
said that when he revealed the topic of his question to someone from TPUSA staff, they said, "Oh, you're perfect.
Take a listen."
So, they previewed you had to preview your question with like his his people in the line. Yeah. Turning Point staff.
And then they put you up in the front or Yeah, they they were like I at one point one of the girls was like, "Oh, you're perfect." And then like pushed me to second. So I I would second it.
I don't want to accuse anyone of anything. I'm not stating facts. I just want us to have in mind that it was TP USA that created that order who decided
which person will be first, second, and so on. It wasn't random. I don't know if that means anything to anyone. I'm just
going to leave it here with you. And just to be completely fair, yes, of course, there would be a person vetting
the questions, making sure they get material for an exciting debate. I understand that. Here is what Hunter Kak
tweeted in response to all this. Him being caught chatting with Zach Koreshi.
Whoa. I was at an event and talked to someone in line with me. Conspiracy theorists are once again not playing with the full deck. See, anytime we
notice something weird, and in this case, we find Koreshi, who was chased and detained on that day, talking to Kak
about before the Big Bang. I mean, it's weird. It's freaking weird.
So why KAC doesn't react like it was weird? See, if it was me, an innocent question asker, my reaction to finding
out that one of the first suspects talked to me just minutes before they moved me up in that queue, my answer would be, "Guys, here is what we talked
about. He asked me this. He said this to the person next to me. I'd be helpful.
Okay, I'm nice like that. I wouldn't immediately dismiss it because conspiracy theories are all it again."
But we keep seeing that pattern. Same with TP USA. Anything we bring up, it's crazy. And also what's suspicious to me,
okay, because the this happened 6th of April. It's been over two weeks. All right. Since then, it's been months we've been talking about Zach Queshi.
His face was plastered all over media on the 10th of September. Wouldn't Hunter remember that he spoke to him right
before? Wouldn't he volunteer some kind of information about that person?
Wouldn't it feel weird to him? I'm, you know, just saying. But like I said,
Hunter is a member of the UNF America organization. You know who else is a part of this or organization? Destiny.
We don't like Destiny here. We think Destiny is despicable. But a clip of him went viral back in September.
Surprisingly, not many people on YouTube talked about it. Thankfully, we have Ni who does those deep dives into various
cases and she was one of the first ones to put two and two together few months ago together with Jesse on fire, I think, in one of the videos. Take a look.
Destiny is on the far left and he often voices his disdain for conservatives.
Don't give a about anybody that winds up at any of these rallies and gets or whatever the okay because they had no problem making fun of Paul Pelosi. The entire world would be better off if
these people were permanently removed from these platforms. Like there is no downside and only upside to see people like Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Tim
P never be allowed to publicly broadcast their opinions ever again.
I'm ready for the [ __ ] the great cleansing. Dude, cleansing. The cleansing? What cleansing?
When we conservatives in this country,
you going to be on the streets with your Glock?
Maybe I got to go back to Nebraska and grab it. You You genuinely do hate conservatives, don't you?
Very much so. Like I'm like I've moved full on to like the political violence level or the real violence level when it comes to conservative people. Yeah. I think they need to be like exiled from
my [ __ ] country. I think they are demonstrabably [ __ ] evil people by any moral system that most people would use. So that's just a small glimpse of the degenerate Destiny. For those of you
who are not familiar with him and as of the making of this video, Destiny has been demonetized on I think pretty much everywhere like YouTube kick everywhere
that he creates content. He's been demonetized for his comments pertaining to the Charlie Kirk situation. Now,
Destiny often streams for hours at a time, often streaming for upwards of , and it just so happened that he was live streaming when the clip of
Charlie Kirk getting started circulating online. Shortly after this, he starts talking about it to his audience, and someone called in to his live stream.
Here's the clip.
Wow. What's up? I'm streaming, by the way. This is Did Did you see what happened?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah. Like, dude, Charlie's going to be [ __ ] dead. I'm pretty sure he's already dead. Yeah,
dude. We're [ __ ] We are We are We are so [ __ ]
By we, you mean we as a country right now, the United States, and the current like like Yeah, like that the party, but like mostly like
I think that the I think that we're super [ __ ] I agree. Hold on. Wait, I'll I'll text you on Discord.
I I just don't want to say anything crazy. It's going to ruin our [ __ ]
So, the person who called him was freaking out and said, quote, "We are dude, we're almost sounding like some
consciousness of guilt, and Destiny quickly cuts them off and hangs up before they can say anything else." Incriminate.
The person Destiny was talking to there was the founder of UNF America. I think maybe this person was freaking out because their representative was the one
asking the question and they were going to be blamed for what happened, you know. But let me summarize and connect
the dots here for you. Quareshi emerged as a second person of interest in Charlie's investigation after his name
was mentioned by police on the leaked audio. Okay. He was allegedly seen driving from hospital to hospital that
day. He was briefly detained, but his father insisted he had been home the whole time, which struck many as odd. In
crowd photos from the event, Quareshi can be seen talking to Hunter Kak,
seemingly asking him about the question Hunter planned to ask. All right, and that checks out because it's been said
in articles that Kareshi was in a queue to ask question. I don't know what happened later, why he wasn't in the queue anymore. Maybe he wasn't gonna be
in the queue, but he was just asking people there what were their questions.
I don't know. It was mentioned though in few sources. Shortly after, Hunter,
known online for being a member of ANF America, was selected by a TPUSA staff member to be second in line. And he was
the last person to ask Charlie a question, a very specific question,
which many found too coincidential to be ignored. Then just minutes after the incident involving Charlie, Destiny was
live and answered a call from the founder of anf America during which she said, "We are effed." Online suspicion around Careshi had already been growing
with many calling him another another decoy. The first being George Zayn.
Okay, the first decoy, the guy that his pants fell down. It could all be pure coincidence, but as Erica Kirk herself said, there are no coincidences, right?
But as usual, I want to know what you guys think. nothing burger or shady that Zach Queshi was spotted talking to Hunter Kak out of everyone in this line
or in that crowd? Let me know in the comments. If you enjoyed this video,
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Tyler Robinson Leak EXPOSED!
Sabby Sabs
Apr 23, 2026



Transcript

All right, guys. So, I am catching up on this Tyler Robinson case. Um, I've been pretty busy the past couple of days, and
there's a good reason for that. I have some exciting news to share with you uh Thursday evening for the live show. But
apparently uh there was audio that was leaked uh from Tyler Robinson's
grandparents. Now, the woman who spoke to his grandparents, who's an investigative uh journalist, she just
appeared on Kim Iverson's show, and she had more to say there uh than what you
hear from this audio. So, I do want to give you uh all of that. But long story short, it does not sound like Tyler par
uh Tyler Robinson's grandparents believe that he is guilty. And in fact, they go on to admit that they believe that Tyler
Robinson is framed. So, let's go ahead and get started with that audio here.
Uh, this was shared on uh Candace Owen show and Project Constitution also shared this on uh X. Let's let's get
into this conversation that she had with the grandparents. And then we're going to fast forward to her appearance on Kim
Iris's show where she explains a little bit more uh about the grandparents,
their perspective, and how they feel about the situation. So, this is very interesting. Here's that audio.
. Oh, they did like crap wood or this was nasty.
Yeah. What are you guys for Tyler?
What are you for Tyler or the other side? Grandparents. Oh, your grandparents. Oh,
I'm really sorry you're going through this. Yeah, it's tough for you guys. Yeah, it sucks. We're here to support.
Yeah, we think your grandchild is absolutely brave, but I'm an investigative journalist, so
man. You know your guns like I I can tell you that you're very right. That's why. Yeah. And my dad was the cop.
You show all of this.
Yeah, of course. But so what you hear in that audio is the investigative journalist uh speaking to
uh Tyler P Tyler uh I'm say Tyler Perry Tyler Robinson's uh grandparents. Again,
we have to say allegedly, but uh we'll get into what she said as as well.
It sounds as though the grandfather is saying there that he also believes that Tyler Robinson is being framed. Now, why
is this important? It's important because the narrative that we were told about Tyler Robinson was that his
grandparents and his grandfather in particular, who I believe is the same one on this audio call, said that yes,
that's my rifle. I recognize that rifle.
That's what we were told from corporate media because that's the information that was given to corporate media from
the FBI and the ATF. Right? So that's what we were told. We were also told that Tyler Robinson's, you know, family
members that they told him to turn himself in. Well, first we were told that his father turned him in. Then
later on we were told that they told him to turn himself in. And now we are hearing that the grandparents do not
believe that Tyler Robinson is guilty of this crime. Now, this is very important because as I told you guys before,
I did not believe that Tyler Robinson did this.
And why would the media put out this narrative that yes, the grandfather said
it was his gun, yes, the father uh turned him in. Why would they put out that information if that information is incorrect?
Why is Erica Kirk such in a hurry to say, "Let's get this trial over with. Let's get it done and over with."
As I told you a couple of days ago,
it appears to me that Tyler Robinson was not supposed to survive that day.
And if that would have happened, if everything would have gone to the great plan and that would have
happened, then Tyler Robinson would not be sitting in a courtroom right now.
Things would have just moved on. They would have said it was this guy, you know, closed the case, open, shut,
that's it. But the problem is that Tyler Robinson was not killed that day.
And that's how we get to this point that we're in right now. Similar to the Butler situation, which I'm also going to get into Thursday night because now
more people and especially those that supported Trump are starting to question the whole narrative around Butler and
the attempted assassination on on Donald Trump. And I pointed out back then, I thought it was kind of weird to me that all of a sudden that just went away.
Donald Trump doesn't talk about it.
Nobody else talked about it and of course the alleged suspect was dead. So there wasn't as much more to go on since
then because of that. This situation is different. Tyler Robinson is alive. So
the investigative journalist that you hear on the audio call, she was just interviewed by Kim Iverson and I think you need to hear what she has to say.
Let's go ahead and bring this part in. Uh right here.
Oh, that's interesting. Uh the grandfather saying I mean, you said, "I think your grandson's framed." And he says, "Yeah, I do, too."
Yeah.
Uh wow. I mean, we were under the impression, we'd been told this whole time that Tyler Robinson's family knew it was him from the beginning and they
turned them in. that they were they were good moral people and they saw that their son and grandson had done something wrong and they had turned him
in. And a lot of people were using that as CEC we know we caught the bad guy and the rest of you are just a bunch of conspiracy theorists. His own family
turned him in. But that doesn't sound like a grandfather who's convinced his grandson did the killing. It sounds exactly the opposite. In fact,
it was the opposite. Even I was shocked.
So, um, I had no idea what he was going to say and how he was going to react. I did what I believed was right. I said,
"You know what? Like, I think your grandson I I even thought that maybe he's going to say, I don't know. Maybe he's going to say, "Well, let's find
out. I believe she he's innocent, but let's find out." No, he was like,
"That's what I think, too. Like, I believe it, too." And he did. Like, I mean, it like all of them were there to support him. All of them. So, grandpa um
and grandma both uh while grandpa was talking to me, grandma was like nodding,
meaning that yeah, he's he's not, you know, he was he's innocent. He's not guilty. So, yeah, they don't believe in it. The narrative that the family
doesn't support him and will testify against him, blah blah, complete [ __ ] It's not true.
And the grandfather says he doesn't believe that the 30 six is what killed Charlie.
That was like the biggest thing when pause right here for just a second. So what I think is important here that she
says is that his entire family that was there in court was there to support him.
So this just totally debunks the narrative from corporate media. Not just the grandparents, but the entire family was there to support Tyler Robinson.
Guys, this is a big cover up. we've been telling you that I did not believe it. It just didn't make any sense.
And then they they tell you, you know,
because we had not seen an interview with the family members, with the grandparents or with the parents. We hadn't seen it.
And so and so here we are,
but they are there to support him. The other damning part here is that uh she says that the grandfather, you know,
allegedly does not believe that a 30 uh6 3006 is what was used to kill Charlie Kirk.
And from that audio recording, it sounds as though the grandfather is very familiar with rifles, which is true with
what the corporate media said, which is that, you know, this is someone who may own guns. that would fit. But there's a
difference from Yeah. the grandfather owned guns and the grandfather said, "Yeah, that's his rifle that was used."
You see what I mean? You see how they just like embellish that story? And so this says a lot. This says a lot.
For those of you who are watching who are hunters, you have hunting rifles,
etc., you know, you know a lot more about this than I do. Um, but there have been many people who are gun enthusiasts
who have said the same thing from day one that it was no way that that was what was used to kill Charlie Kirk. And
now the grandfather is saying the same thing. Let's continue on.
We were talking. I didn't know that someone was recording it. But here's the thing. I didn't know how like what he was telling me exactly. You know, I'm
tired. and we just randomly started talking about where where were you? How did you run into them?
Um we we were on a break so they were eating snacks and we were hungry and they were saying that there's some food and I was like is that crappy food? Like
should I and we had this like pre-con conversation before that this recording like it just it's very short. It was actually conversation.
So um and yeah was it like in the courtroom or was it like in a break room type thing? in a break room like we were out of the
courtroom. we um so every single time we got a chance to get out of the courtroom, we would so we were out of the courtroom and they were just necking
on stuff and uh we started a conversation and when they mentioned well we are we are grandparents I was like oh wow like this important and then
when he said that he was the hunter grandpa, right? Like the the one that owned the rifle. So he said even like my
dad was a cop like obviously this guy knows his gun and he knows the the bullets and all of that. So, at that moment, like I didn't realize how big of
a thing like he was telling me. And then when I was driving home, I was like, "Oh my gosh, wait a second. The grandpa just
literally told me like, I believe my grandkid is framed." Yeah.
And I was like, "Yeah, that's how tired I was." It registered a little bit later.
Yeah. Well, pause here for just a second. Um, again, corporate media led with that narrative. Did you see anyone interview the grandparents?
After the media said that the grandfather said, "Yes, that's his rifle."
Did you see anybody actually have a sit down interview with the grandfather? What about the father?
No, it it was just this just goes to show you again how the media can just shape this perspective about someone.
They create a narrative and they get the narrative out first. And this is what I said before. Usually the person who gets the narrative out first are the ones
that have the upper hand. And the other person, they're now on defense and they have to come out and defend, you know,
against this. I I don't know if Tyler Robinson's grandfather is open or up for doing an interview. Um maybe he has been
told not to do that, that that could actually hurt the case. Maybe that's why they're not talking. Maybe they don't want to be on camera. Maybe they don't want to. You know, there's all different
things that go into this. They have lives that they have to live as well.
and maybe they have been advised by lawyers not to do any interviews because it could hurt or jeopardize the case.
Um, that's the most likely scenario I would guess. But if he is open to doing interviews and no one is interviewing him,
that makes you wonder. I'm sure someone started hearing you o,
you know, overhearing your conversation was like, "Okay, let's record this and then pass that along to Candace." Yeah. Um, Candace has a man, Candace has a team.
Incredible team. Yeah, I like kudos to her. I don't know how she does what she does, but Candace intelligence agency is real, guys.
Well, I'm sure she does have somebody there on the ground um at the courthouse as well. So, um, who else for Tyler's
family was there? Is his mom is his dad there? The guy who supposedly turned him in?
Yes. Yes. So, his dad was there, his mom was there. I got to speak to them for a second. I was talking to her, his mom,
about my letter that I wrote to the well, I wrote to her, but she gave it to the attorney and she told me that she
passed the letter to the attorney. In the letter, I said, "Hey, listen. I know um you guys are in a weird situation. I
can help. We have a team of lawyers who are willing to do proono, all of that."
And uh her legal team never bothered to connect with me. So, yeah. Interesting,
isn't it? And they they are like literally, excuse my language, bitching about time in front of a judge. And because they don't have enough people to
go through all evidence and then when you offer them help without like any payments or anything, they don't accept it because you're talking about you'd reach.
I think that was really important that she said that they're arguing they don't have enough time to go through the evidence and Erica Kirk wanted this to be rushed.
Out to some attorneys to see if they would help.
Yeah. I even interrupted their lunch during the day of the of the trial. I went in and they were having, you know,
I don't know, like discussions and eating and I was like, "Did you guys get my letter?" Amber Ember said that she gave it to you and they literally like
closed it on door like Yeah. So, I'm like, "Okay, okay."
So, Tyler's family's there. What is the attitude? I mean, what what kind of um I mean, when they're
have they pres I guess they haven't presented any sort of defense for Tyler yet at these preliminary hearings because we're just at the preliminary point.
Say goodbye to receiving.
This is where they go into ads. So, I'm just going to fast forward past the ad uh right here and get back to this part.
Won't show what they have and they will not show us their strategy up until the trial. And that's a smart thing to do.
So they should not show us anything like the prosecution should not know how they're gonna fight,
right? Okay. But the families there, do they seem like they're, you know, they think their son do they does? I mean, I know you're we're just speculating now.
I mean, we now we're not speculating with the grandparents. We know how the grandfather feels. He said it. He thinks his grandson's framed. Yeah.
But the rest of the family members, does it seem like they're I mean, I don't know. It's probably hard to tell like whether or not they think their son's guilty, but I mean, what was
the impression you got from them? they are on the same wavelengths like um so like I said Brandy previously spoke to
another family member we just prefer not to name her and um she said only 2% of what you hear in the media is true wow 2%
2%
only 2% of what you're hearing in the media is true about this case
so the father is there again to support him they're all there to support him.
But apparent according to the media, the father told Tyler Robinson to turn himself in.
Then there's the video camera footage of Tyler Robinson apparently walking into,
you know, the the police department that day. All of a sudden, that video footage has been just can't find it. Just gone.
Whoops. Bye.
The police officer who spoke at the press conference resigns.
None of these pieces are adding up. Not one%.
So I believe that all of them think he's innocent. And uh also think about this.
They came together, father, mother, and grandparents. Like they they came out of the elevator. They were like, you know,
very supportive of each other. So if grandparents don't believe that, I you know, I really doubt that, you know,
17 minutesfather is gone. No, my son needs to fine. No. No. And the fact that they came together, so she
said the family was together in the elevator. That says a lot. They're all together. They're all on one page.
Now, I I bring this up because when we go back to the Michael Peterson case,
the staircase murders, for those who are not aware, I remember all this happening. But when we go back to the Michael Peterson case, that was not the
situation. The entire family was not together. or they were not on the same page. There were some family members that believed that he did it and then
there were some that believed that he didn't. And in fact, um Kathleen's daughter, because Michael Peterson, it was a blended family, but uh Kathleen's
daughter believed that Michael Peterson killed her mom.
Her mom was Kathleen. And his other children did not believe that he killed
18 minutesKathleen Peterson. And no, they were not together as a unit that way.
So, they're all on the same page and the media is not reporting any of this.
And um yeah,
you know, and people are always quick to say, well, the dad turned him in. And it's like, well, no, the dad might have said, look, if they think it's you and they come looking for you, they'll shoot you down.
Do what I think. That's exactly what I think that Well, do you want to hear my theory? Yeah.
I believe that Tyler Robinson was there because of what I told you like somehow he was convinced to attend the event. We
don't care how let's just assume he was right. The reason he was later found in you know eating ice cream absolutely
nonchalant as nothing happened is because in his head nothing happened. So what what um goes next is he sees that
his clothes cap and eye like a a glasses you know all over the news like someone's wearing his clothes and cap
and everything else and obviously if it was me I would be like wait a second what's going on here so the first person
I would call is one of the parents I would like if I saw myself if someone says Elizabeth Lane uh this investigative journalism journalist was
sitting in New York killing somebody and then I see my my clothes on someone else, some guys moving around with my clothes and I see those pictures, I'll
be like, "What?" The first person I'll call is my mom and I'll be like, "Oh my gosh, like something's going on, ma."
Like, what? You know, I think that's what happened. And when he confessed to not confessed, excuse me, when he spoke
to the parents and told this, I believe parents would have made the choice,
well, we don't know what's going on, so let's go to the cops and talk to them. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, he ends up,
you know, sitting there trying to talk to the cops and cops are telling him,
"Well, Lance Twigs is saying that you killed Charlie, so you got to stay here,
buddy." That's how it started in my opinion. Again, that's speculation, just my opinion. No one told me this, but I
believe this is this is exactly how it happened.
I think she brings up a good theory. I think that makes sense what she just said there. I told you guys when we
looked at the video, I was like, I don't think that's the same person. I said the same thing about Luigi and Manion. They showed you three different pictures of
Luigi Manion and they all look like three different people.
So, it's it's just if you go back and you look at the the enhanced images, as Cash Patel said, those images were enhanced. If you go back and you look at
those enhanced images and you compare it to Tyler Robinson who's sitting in court right now, that doesn't look like the same person. Also,
the person is wearing sunglasses. Like,
how do you even know that's the same person?
So, it's just they they can't even see his eyes, but they said that was him.
It's just it's wild to me and people who can't see uh this for what it really is.
It it's very very obvious to me that this was something that was planned.
Yes, absolutely. Somebody planned to take out Charlie Kirk that day. Deep State, Israel, whatever you have it.
Somebody planned to do so. And it just happened to conveniently be right after he said, "No, we should not go to war with Iran and and other things." and he
started to push back on the pro-Israel donors. Just happened to be right after that, not years later, right after.
So, there's that. And then this guy,
this kid, Tyler Robinson, we don't even know the the messages on Discord, they didn't make any sense.
Then we find out, I reported to you, we find out that those messages were sent after Tyler Robinson was already in custody. Well, if he's in custody, he
doesn't have a cell phone. So, how is he posting messages on Discord?
In my opinion, this case needs to be completely thrown out. Completely thrown out. The defense doesn't even have the
data that is supposed to connect the bullet to the gun. They don't even have that information.
But they're having hearings and there's supposed to be a trial.
It It doesn't make any sense.
And um I just hope people see this for what it really is. Uh it is a different day.
This is not 1992.
This is 2026. And people are very resourceful and people are looking up information and they can make
comparisons. And I also want to say when we talked about those images, the enhanced images, I do not think enhanced
images should be permissible in a courtroom. And I say that because as we all know, especially those of us that when we create our thumbnails or
whatever, you know, we we go through the image enhancer to increase the resolution, etc. But sometimes when you
use that tool, sometimes it can enhance someone's face to the point where it actually does not really look like them.
Depends on how blurry the picture is that you're trying to enhance.
So, I don't even think that should be permissible in a courtroom. And then when we're looking at the era of AI that we're in right now, who's to say we just
saw last night Donald Trump sharing eight pictures of Iranian women and he said, "We stop these women from being killed by the IRGC."
Come to find out, those images are AI. Do you guys see the danger with this?
Anyone anywhere can make a fake picture and make it seem like it is a real person and you could be charged with a crime.
So, we have some serious issues.
Serious issues. And I'll say this much again. I think this case should be thrown out. I don't think they have enough evidence to convict Tyler
Robinson. I've been saying that from day one. And I think they're just trying to plant this on somebody. That's what I think is happening. But you just heard
it from an investigative journalist herself who spoke to the grandparents.
They do not believe that Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk and they are there to support him. The entire family was there to support Tyler.
Now you need to ask, why is corporate media not telling you that?
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