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Trump slapped with massive lawsuit alleging 'Epstein-identical' trafficking operation
by Alexander Willis
RawStory
December 2, 2025 10:19AM ET445
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2674362253/

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U.S. President Donald Trump speaks to reporters during travel to Washington, D.C., from Palm Beach International Airport, Florida, U.S., November 30, 2025. REUTERS/Anna Rose Layden

President Donald Trump has been slapped with a $310 million lawsuit alleging that the president engaged in a “trafficking venture” that was “identical in every material respect” to the sex-trafficking operation allegedly spearheaded by Jeffrey Epstein.

Filed on Nov. 24 in Palm Beach County, the lawsuit names Trump in both his individual and official capacity as president, alongside Tesla founder and Trump ally Elon Musk and Microsoft founder Bill Gates, both of whom have spent time inside Epstein’s home, according to reports and, in Musk’s case, his own admission.

The plaintiffs in the lawsuit, whose names have been redacted, accuse Trump and others of operating an “eight-year trafficking and exploitation venture that began in 2018 [that] has continued and escalated under the current Trump administration,” according to an uncertified copy of the lawsuit, published and reported on Tuesday by the hyper-local news outlet BOCA News Now.

Specifically, the plaintiffs accuse Trump of “grooming” the lead plaintiff in the lawsuit – an unnamed minor on whose behalf the lawsuit was filed – starting in 1998, “the exact year [the] plaintiff was born.” They accuse Trump of using Gates’ Gates Foundation as the primary “cover and silencing mechanism” to continue the operation, as well as facilitating “coordinated sexual assaults.”

The plaintiffs also allege that the minor plaintiff's “infant daughter” was taken from her “as punishment for filing lawsuits,” which they argue was “identical to Epstein’s use of custody threats against mothers who sued.”


Additionally, the plaintiffs accuse Trump and the other named defendants of having "attempted to murder" the lead plaintiff "no fewer than [on] five separate occasions" between 2023 and November of this year, including by way of "poisoning, vehicular assaults and orchestrated physical attacks designed to appear accidental."

Trump is not facing any active criminal charges, and has and continues to deny any wrong-doing as it relates to Epstein, who died in 2019 awaiting trial on sex-trafficking charges. The plaintiffs in the case are seeking at least $310 million in compensatory damages, more than $134 million in attorneys’ fees, and injunctive relief that would include the “immediate return of full legal and physical custody” of the lead plaintiff’s daughter. They also asked the court that the trial be expedited so that a trial by jury is held by Dec. 20.
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Re: Part 2 Anti-Anti-Nazi Barbarian Hordes are Knocking Down

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Mark Kelly Claps Back At Trump Amid ‘Death Threats’ Over US Army Remark: ‘I’m Not Gonna Be Silenced’
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Dec 2, 2025 UNITED STATES

Arizona Senator Mark Kelly on Monday (December 1) said death threats against him had increased as he renewed his critique of President Trump amid threats by the White House to recall Kelly to active Navy duty to prosecute him under military law for urging troops to disobey illegal orders.



Transcript

Good afternoon everybody. Seems like most of you guys are here.
Um and thank you for taking the time. Uh let me get started. So throughout his
entire career in business, reality TV, and politics, Donald Trump has had one
and only one play, bullying his opponents into silence.
He did it as a failed casino owner who bankrupted his properties and screwed
over his contractors. He did it as a reality TV host known for
firing people. And he's done it as as president who
tries every day to intimidate people with no regards for the rights or
well-being of the American people. I'll say this for the guy.
While he's never seemed to do much else right for most of Donald Trump's career,
bullying people has worked out for him. But not now
because I won't let it happen.
The American people won't let it happen. President Trump is trying to silence me,
threatening to kill me for saying what is true.
And he sent his secretary of defense after me. And it's not going to work.
Here's how we got here. A week and a half ago, Senator Slaken
and I along with others who also served in the military and the intelligence communities, we released a video with a
simple message to service members that they must refuse illegal orders.
Nothing was controversial about that.
Everyone must follow the law. No one may break the law. This is pretty
basic stuff. Seeing that video,
here's how any other president would have responded.
They would have said two words, of course.
But that's not how this president responded. We become so accustomed to Donald
Trump's behavior that it is worth emphasizing.
The president of the United States said that two US senators and four members of
the House of Representatives should be arrested, hanged, executed
for something we said, for something that is true.
My family knows the cost of political violence. My wife Gabby was shot in the
head and nearly died while speaking with her constituents.
The president should understand this too. He has been the target of political
violence himself. The speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives, Melissa Hortman, and
her husband were murdered in their home this year. The governor of Pennsylvania, Josh
Shapiro, had his house firebombed this year. Then Charlie Kirk was assassinated
at Utah Valley University, a place I visited just a few weeks ago with Republican Senator John Curtis.
Faced with a wave like this, every other president we have ever had in the
history of this nation would have tried to heal the country.
But we all know Donald Trump. He uses every single opportunity to
divide us and that's dangerous.
The president's words carry tremendous weight. People listen to him
and he knows that. And that's exactly why he does what he
does. He makes these threats to silence
people. And if that doesn't work, he abuses his power to intimidate people.
And with the consent of Republicans in the United States Senate, he has surrounded himself with people like the
Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegsath, who will do whatever he says, with no
question, no matter what. Trump and Hegsth, they care more about
publicity than they do about the rule of law. That's how I ended up finding out via a
tweet that the Secretary of Defense was ordering an investigation into me.
The same Secretary of Defense who has from the moment he was nominated has
been historically unqualified for this position.
the same secretary of defense who is reported to have ordered a second strike to kill
shipwreck survivors in the Caribbean. If there is anyone who needs to answer
questions in public and under oath, it is Pete Hgsath.
It's a dangerous moment for the United States of America when the president and his loyalists use every lever of power
to silence United States senators for speaking up. But we all know that this isn't about me
and it's not about the others in that video. They're trying to send a message
to retired service members, to government employees, to members of the military, to elected
officials, and to all Americans who are thinking about speaking up.
You better keep your mouth shut or else.
This has been a singular focus of President Trump's second term.
Not addressing costs, not creating jobs, intimidating people, and going after the
people he views as his political opponents. He's done it to companies.
You better write a check to build my ballroom or I might not approve your merger.
He's done it with universities. You better fire your president or I'll pull your research funding.
He's even done it to late night hosts. You better not make jokes that I do not
like or I'll get you taken off the air and I'm going to take your company's
broadcast license. And he does it every week with Republicans in the House and the Senate.
You better tow the party line or I'll make sure you never get reelected.
Folks, this comes at a cost. And not only to American companies,
colleges, and comedians. It damages every American's freedom of speech and
the balance of powers that form the foundation of our democracy.
Because when Republicans in Congress are too afraid to dis disagree with this president, it means that his bad ideas
go unchallenged. He has slapped reckless tariffs on
countries across the globe, skyrocketing the cost of everything from groceries to school supplies.
Republicans historically, well, at least a year ago, they hated terrorists.
But when it comes to voting to undo them, they are too afraid of Donald Trump.
So Americans pay more for just about everything because of spineless
politicians. It's the same with health care costs.
There are Republicans in the House and the Senate who really want to do something to prevent these health care
premiums from spiking for millions of Americans. The solutions are simple,
but President Trump says he doesn't want to, so nothing happens. Nothing except a
government shutdown. It goes on and on.
The president has gone too far. Everybody needs to wake up.
The occupant of the Oval Office is ignorant to the Constitution
and has no regard for the rule of law. Trying to silence me in proposing to
court marshall me in threatening to kill me for fighting back when our democracy
demands that we must fight back. President Trump has crossed the line.
And this time it's not going to work. I will not be intimidated by this
president. I am not going to be silenced by this president or the people around
him because I've given too much in service to this country to back down to
this guy. In 1991, when Donald Trump was driving the Taj
Mahal casino into bankruptcy, I was getting shot at over Iraq and
Kuwait. In 2001, after Donald Trump said that the
collapse of the Twin Towers meant he now owned the tallest skyscraper in
Manhattan. I was carrying flags honoring 9/11
victims into space on a rocket ship. In 2003,
when Donald Trump was writing birthday greetings to the monster Jeffrey Epstein,
I was the first on the scene to recover the bodies of my fellow astronauts who died when Space Shuttle Colombia
exploded during re-entry in 2011.
When Trump was hosting a reality show and pedalling conspiracy theories
against President Barack Obama, I was sitting next to my wife's hospital bed
as she recovered from a gunshot wound to the head.
My point is this. I've been through a lot worse in service to my country. The president and Pete
Hegsath are not going to silence me. They aren't going to keep me from
speaking out and they're not going to keep me from doing my job.
Enough of the bullying, enough of the intimidation, enough of the threats,
enough of your nonsense doesn't help anyone in our country
afford their groceries or pay their medical bills. and it erodess the rights
of every American. My job is to fight for them, to stand up
for the Constitution, and nothing nothing is going to stop me from doing
my job. Thank you. And I'll take some questions.
Hold on a second. Give me give me give me that that folder
there. Just sit this down here. Can you I know it's Manu from CNN, but
for everybody just starting with you, just say who you are. You know what? Uh
what station? Um uh the White House said today that Admiral Bradley gave the
order for that second strike on the Venezuelan boat. They also said this was a lawful strike yesterday. You said the
second strike could be a war crime. Do you think that Bradley committed a war?
Let me let me just start Manu by saying that there needs to be an investigation.
We need to pull some of these members of DoD and the military into the armed
services committees in the in the House and the Senate. You know, that's what the what the White House is saying. I
hope what has been reported is not accurate. I have such I rever members of
the United States Navy, especially special operators, Navy Seals. These are the most highly trained, you know,
individuals in our military. I have deep deep respect for them. So I hope what we are hearing uh is not not accurate. I
will say though, you know, as somebody who has sunk two ships myself, that um
folks in the military need to understand, you know, the law of the sea, the Geneva Conventions, what the
law says. And I'm concerned that uh if there were in fact as
reported, you know, survivors clinging to a damaged vessel
that that could be, you know, over a line. I hope it's not the case. I truly
do. Should Admiral Brad have resisted that order? Again, I am, you know, not sure of all
the facts yet. Uh, I don't want to prejudge before we have all the
information. I think it's important for there to be an investigation. The inspector general, inspectors general of
DoD needs to investigate this. Unfortunately, an unqualified secretary of defense fired a bunch of them and got
rid of a bunch of lawyers. I mean, Pete Heg, do I have a lot of confidence in DoD? Well, hopefully we have, you know,
inspectors general there that will be doing an impartial investigation and I think we should wait for the results of
those investigations. Regarding your this press conference,
the investigation into your actions, have you spoken with um or DOJ or
anyone? Have there been any conversations, any interviews yet? You know, like I said in my remarks, I was
notified of a potential court marshal through a tweet by the Secretary of
Defense. I mean, think about that for a second. How ludicrous is that? That's the only notification that we have
received to date. And I think that says a lot about who Pete Sec Pete Heg is and
what he cares about. He doesn't care about the law. He doesn't care about process.
He he doesn't care about accountability. He cares about views
on his Twitter account. And that's a big problem. I mean, I want to ask you guys
this question. Have you ever in the history of our country seen a less
qualified or less professional Secretary of Defense? I cannot think of one.
Senator Kelly Nathaniel Scripts News. Um, are are you concerned about threats on your life? Have you stepped up your
personal security and of course the security of your wife? Hey, I'm no stranger. You know, Gabby
and I are no stranger to political violence. We get a lot of threats already. She continues to get threats. She gets threats on her life
more so today because what Donald Trump said about me 10 days ago that I should be hanged, that I should be executed,
the threats on us have obviously gone up. I'm not going to get into details about my personal security. We take
these threats very seriously and I take, you know, the threats from this
president seriously. How many times in our country's history have you heard a
president of the United States say that members of the Senate and the House
should be hanged and executed? I mean, I can't think of one.
Those words carry a lot of weight. The number of calls we threatening calls that we get into our office have
skyrocketed and they're very graphic. I mean, some of them were put not from my office, but
another member put them put them out there for people to hear. Ones we get are worse than that.
So, I take this seriously. But again, you know, that's why he does these
things because he thinks he can shut me up. I have first amendment rights. I'm a
United States senator. I am doing my job. I'm on the on the armed service of the intelligence committee. He ain't
going to shut me up. I mean, he he intimidates other people. I'm not intimidated by Donald Trump or
Pete Hexath or anybody else. Thank you, Senator Nicole Kelly with CBS
News. Are you aware just back on Venezuel are you aware of whether or not the secretary has had and secretary hex
is if he's had any conversations with any members of the armed services committee and in terms of these calls to
investigate do you believe the secretary and admiral Bradley should appear before
they absolutely should appear you know I've talked to the chairman of our services about it and the ranking member
they should absolutely appear I'm not so confident they will this is not an admin administration that tends to follow any
norms. Um, but we need to get to the bottom of
this of what happened. And um, we are not Russia and Iraq. I'm really
concerned if the reporting is correct. Again, I hope the reporting about this
incident is not accurate. What the White House said today actually indicated it
might be, but we're going to have to see. Going back to the Dut matter, are you
considering any legal action for the threats of being court marshaled or any of the threats of investigations?
You mean like me suing Donald Trump for what he said? I think what he said about us is dangerous.
It's ridiculous. It is a violation of our constitutional rights as Americans
and our rights as senators to do our job. And he's trying to intimidate us. But I have not considered that not not
at this point. Yeah. Thank you. Secretary,
do you see this as fundamentally first amendment issue for you that you want to
highlight against the president who's trying to silence you and how do you see
the whole process playing out? Well, again, this isn't really about me
and that's why I think people are kind of got this a little bit off here. It's not about
me. It's not about the other five members in the video. It's not about Alyssa Slacken,
Chris Duzio, Chrissy Hulahan, Jason Crow, Maggie Goodlander. It's not
about us. This is about a president who doesn't want anybody to say anything
that he does not like. I don't think he understands the Constitution.
I'm serious about this. I think he is ignorant to the constitution and the rule of law and he just wants to silence
us and it starts with us and that's one of the reasons people say well why wouldn't you like just you know back off
because this isn't about me this is about what he will do next who's he going to go after next which service
member you know which government employee which citizen who decides to
say something that this president doesn't like and then he goes goes after
them. In my case with the Secretary of Defense, who knows what's next with the attorney general. I mean, this DOJ has
been just, you know, attacking people for all kinds of stuff. And what's next?
Our first amendment rights ain't happening.
Yeah. No, the Washington Post. Um, can you tell us anything more about the FBI
involvement in the inquiry that you and the other lawmakers appear in video schedule with them?
We haven't heard all that much. We've got we got notified. I think I think the better question is what is their
motivation? Like did this come from the FBI? Did the do you do you guys think the FBI they went into their like you
know meeting that morning and said of all the stuff that's going on in the country right now we got to get right on
top of this these guys said something the president didn't like and now we've
got to do something about it or do you think it's possible but the president told his FBI director to tell the FBI
agents to reach out to these guys so I think this is a good question for you
all of you in here should asking the FBI those questions. I don't have the answers to them. Yeah.
Can you tell us anything more about the the Senate Armed Services Committee's inquiry into the the September 2nd
strike, the nature of the request for information submitted, what information has been sent back from DoD so far in
your conversations with the chairman? Well, we had a brief on the first three strikes. Um,
and and I have said this, you know, before 10 days ago that the, you know,
they're tying themselves in knots trying to explain why this entire operation is legal. And I imagine eventually,
I hope you have an opportunity to see the legal argument that they made
to do this. It's important for the American people to see it.
um we have to get folks before the committee and you know that process
might take a little while. Um but I ultimately think we're going to get to the bottom of this and again if what
seems to happen actually happened I'm I'm really worried about our service members. I I I I was I was talking about
this from the beginning of this operation that the thing that I am most concerned about
is the very difficult situations that this secretary of defense is going to
put service members into. And it's because this guy is so unqualified for
the job. I mean, think about this. He runs around on a stage talking about
lethality and warrior ethos and killing people. We
have the most competent, capable military this planet has ever seen by
far. That's not the message that needs to
come from the Secretary of Defense. The message should be about what's our
what's our mission and accountability and the rule of law and training and let
me make sure you're equipped to do really hard jobs. Let me give you all the tools you need to do something that
often is an impossible mission. And instead he runs around on a stage like
he's a 12-year-old playing an army. And it is ridiculous. It is embarrassing
and I I I can't imagine what our allies think of looking at that guy in this
job. One of the most important jobs in our country in my view after the
president of the United States. It is the next most important job. He is in
the National Command Authority for nuclear weapons. And last night he's
putting out on the internet turtles with rocket propelled grenades killing.
I mean, have you seen this? This is the Secretary of Defense. This is not a serious person. He should have been
fired after Signalgate and then every single day after that.
ABC News. Just to put a finer point on it, because you were quite vocal about the sort of flimsy legality that was
being offered during the briefings, were these sort of strikes that are now in the news, what you were making reference
to when you posted that video telling members of the military that they needed to feel okay just obeying orders that
they felt based on who this president is and who the secretary of defense is is and
specifically things that the president has said in the past and things he was
talking about doing in the future. Let me give you an example. 2016, he's talking about something on a debate
stage that was clearly illegal and he was reminded by Brett Bearer from Fox News that that would be an illegal
order. Military won't do that. You know what the president's response was to that? The military will not refuse my
orders. Implying that even if they are illegal, they will not refuse them. He's also
talked about shooting protesters in the legs. Then he's talking about deploying more troops to American cities and using
those cities as training grounds. Do you know what that means? That means using
the American people for the military to train on. So we were looking forward to
try to head something off at the pass that could have been really, really bad.
So it wasn't about this specific thing. Yeah.
Jennifer with newsroom. The NDAA conference report is set to come out later this week over the weekend early
next week. In addition to that, you all have not yet conferenced out the defense appropriations bill for the current
fiscal year. Do you see either of those as options for you and other lawmakers concerned about the defense department,
the actions in Venezuela, and other situations to address those legislatively? the NBA or defense
program. Well, I think it could be if we could get bipartisan support to do something like that. Sure. That's sometimes
challenging because, you know, remember my Republican colleagues, not all of
them, but most of them are fearful of this president. They do not want to cross him. I mean, they see what just
happened to me. I said something that he did not like and he said I will be
hanged, executed, prosecuted. He doesn't even have the order right.
Yeah. Senator Michael with MS. Now, you mentioned earlier that the video was
meant to tell service members something that's already law that they're not required to obey to to act on legal
orders. Since it already is the law and presumably service members are aware of the law, why didn't the six of you guys
feel it was necessary to make the video? Well, I think it's good for people to get a reminder and we wanted to show
that we had their back and we understood the situation they were in. Pretty simple. And we said something that is in
the uniform code of military justice according to the law of armed combat.
Um, you know, we stated something pretty simple. every every service member doesn't hear these reminders as
frequently as other service members. So it was we felt it was important to say under the circumstances.
Uh right here I'll come to you next. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Senator Joe with the Associated Press. When you participated
in the video, did you expect that the president would respond? Is that part of your expectation?
We did a video before that he did not respond to. I I was really surprised
that he responded at all. And I thought if he was going to respond
to what I just said when I gave my remarks, I thought he would have said, "Of course, members of the military
shouldn't follow illegal orders." So when he said, you I was sitting in the
skiff next to Alyssa Slacken, by the way, when somebody comes in with a little piece piece of paper and it says,
I could see what it said on it as it was handed to her. President just called for your execution.
She leaves the room. Five minutes later, she comes back. She says to me, "He's called for your execution, too." That
was not the response we expected. Senator Lisa from PBS. Two questions. As
you say, you're still gathering the facts. Still not clear exactly what happened here, but if the Secretary of
Defense did issue an order to kill people after on a second strike like
this, um, is that an impeachable offense? taking apart the numbers in the house but in theory is that a
potentially individual offense to you and then second a shift healthare short
time here to figure out what's going to happen in healthcare just what's your involvement right now in talks where
does that stand well you know on the on on the first question I think that's a question for
attorneys I am not an attorney I don't pretend to be one um
but only senators and members that is true I of course I I do not know
the specifics, you know, on that part, you know, of the law about impeachment.
And again, let me remind folks that we're in the early days of this and I think it's important to get all the
facts for we'd understand exactly what happened. Again, I hope what is being
reported is not the case. Uh, but there needs to be an investigation and we are
a country of laws. You know, despite the apparent situation we're in with a
president of the United States who, in my opinion, does not respect the law. We're a country of laws. We got to hold
people accountable on the healthc care, you know, situation. We've got we've got some time. Uh I'd like to see a
bipartisan solution because millions of my constituents, the people I represent in Arizona and millions of more people
across the country are not going to be able to afford their healthcare. and they're one accident or illness away
from bankruptcy. People lose their health care, they die. We can fix this. We have time to fix
this. We know what to do. But again, doesn't seem the president of the United States wants to do anything on this. If
he wants to help the American people, he should engage with the United States Congress on fixing this spiking of
premiums, fixing this issue. Yeah. Have you
public media. Have you received messages of support, public or private, from your
Republican colleagues? Yes. And some of it's public. Can you tell us a bit about
Well, I mean there some people put out statements. Um, and I got some private
calls which I will not get into, but there are some, you know, you could
Google it. There are some, you know, positive, but
we're in an unfortunate period here where we have a president that does not like to be crossed.
Uh, and he I mean, if he's going to say to a US senator that you should be
executed for what you say, that sends a very chilling message, not
only through the United States Senate and the House, to Republicans, but across the entire nation.
Thank you, Senator Ryan of Fox News Radio. I wanted to see whether it's the FBI or the Department of War. You know,
a lot of them are requesting hearings or investigations with you. Are you planning to cooperate if that is the
case? I will follow the law. Yeah. Senator Jim with Boston. You mentioned
that some of your Republican colleagues have been bullied by president. with regards to the folks rights in the
Caribbean. What's your level of confidence that this investigation in the Senate Armed Services Committee will
go forward? I have confidence, tremendous confidence in the chairman of the Armed Services
Committee, Roger Wicker, Senator from Mississippi, and the ranking member Jack Reid. And I I've spoken to him about
this, and I know he's going to try to do a thorough job. Where I don't have a lot of confidence is in the secretary of
defense and what he has done to this department, firing JAG officers, firing inspectors
general. He's decimated it. Uh I mean firing people in the leadership of DoD
just because of the color of their skin or if they were a woman. So I have I
have I have about zero confidence in the Secretary of Defense. I have tremendous confidence in the chairman of the armed
services committee. Yeah.
[Music] Senator Shots tweeted this afternoon said PsF needs to testify in the month
of December before we pass a defense authorization. And I'm just curious as a member of armed services, do you agree
with that approach? Should Democrats be open to potentially, you know, holding up NDA to leverage
information process. I spent 25 years in the United United States Navy. I understand the importance
of the defense bill and the programs that we authorize and the changes we make the policy through that piece of
legislation. I I've talked to Senator Shots and we'll
continue to talk about this, but I in general my view, you know, on this is
we've got to be very thoughtful about how we handle the process of the defense
bill. Yes. Yeah. Just to clarify, you were not brief on
the double tap of the first strike. another group included that if he will
not testify will you call on of South K to come in and testify and then lastly
on Venezuela should the United States inside Venezuelan territory do you think
that so I'm going to have a conversation with the chairman and the ranking member about who specifically you know we bring
in to testify whether we do it in public or not I would generally prefer public
hearing we should probably do both, you know, one in a classified setting, one publicly so the American people could
see I'm still trying to figure out the justification that Donald Trump has uh
if he was to, you know, conduct kinetic strikes into Venezuela. What's the goal?
Why hasn't he communicated this to the American people? That's the job of the president, to lay out a case before we
go to war. And if it is about removing
uh Maduro, I mean, how do you square that with pardoning Juan Hernandez who
is basically the same guy from a different country who got sentenced to 45 years in prison and he's barely been
there. He's probably hasn't even gotten settled in yet and the president's going to release him. Doesn't make any sense.
And I'll tell you what, regime change as a policy of the United States generally
in our history has not worked out well. Think of South Vietnam. Think of the Bay of Pigs, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
It results in the deaths of US service members without the intended outcome.
And in this case, I don't even think we know the intended outcome. president needs to make a case to the
American people when he is about to put thousands of American men and women in
harm's way. This is not the way to manage the US military. Hey, I want to thank all of you for spending the time
here today. I'm sorry the room is so warm in here, but we'll uh we'll cool it down next time. Thank you. Appreciate
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Joe Rogan RAISES BIG QUESTIONS About Charlie Kirk’s Widow.. (Something Feels OFF!)
Gossip Savage
Dec 5, 2025

Joe Rogan is raising big questions about Charlie Kirk’s widow—saying something about her story just feels off, and fans are buzzing. During a recent discussion, Rogan pointed out inconsistencies and strange timing in her public statements, leaving listeners stunned as they began connecting dots on their own. The internet lit up instantly, with debates exploding over whether Rogan is uncovering real red flags or simply stirring the pot.

In this video, we break down what Joe Rogan said, why he feels things aren’t adding up, and how fans are reacting to his skepticism. Is he highlighting overlooked details—or sparking a whole new wave of speculation?



Transcript

I got the dirt. Someone asked Kirk for
their sick game. I know who ordered
Kirk's hit. Someone's hiding. Scared.
When the man who built his empire on
fearless speech suddenly goes quiet for
good, people can't help but question
what really happened. The official story
never tells everything. But when Joe
Rogan, known for speaking his mind
without fear, steps up to the mic and
says something that points fingers, the
whole internet shakes. In a three-hour
episode that hit the web like a
shockwave, Rogan didn't trade in gossip.
He brought receipts. He laid out
timelines, messages, and financial
details that sent chills through
everyone listening. For the first time
since Charlie Kirk's passing, the story
that Erica Kirk has been standing
behind, dressed in black, holding back
tears, started to crumble before
everyone's eyes. This doesn't look like
grief anymore. It looks like a show. And
Rogan just yelled, "Cut." The episode
dropped out of nowhere. No guests, no
ads, no warning. Just Rogan, his coffee,
and a pile of screenshots that turned
his studio into something straight out
of a thriller. He started calm, voice
steady, talking about how much he
respected Charlie, how they'd shared
cigars after events, how Charlie once
confided, "If anything ever happens to
me, don't let them turn it into a
circus." Then Rogan leaned forward, eyes
cold, and delivered the line that's now
been replayed nearly 90 million times.
In 48 hours, they turned it into a
circus. And the one leading the show was
the woman who shared his bed that night.
Rogan didn't just toss accusations
around. He broke it down like a full
investigation.
Erica Kirk's out here pretending she's
some truth teller. Nah, man. She's full
of straight up.
But it infuriated people because they
felt like this guy is going against the
progress that was being made in society.
But what he did not feel like was
progress like it was a progressive
agenda that was being pushed in most
college campuses. It's a leftist Marxist
sort of agenda. He didn't feel like that
was the correct way to live and he felt
like he had arguments against it and he
wanted and it was you know it's a
business too, right? like he developed
this big social media.
First came the timeline. Charlie's
passing happened on a night when Erica
was supposedly away at a donor event in
Nashville. But Rogan claimed he got
private jet records showing her plane
landing back in Arizona just before
midnight, hours before Charlie's
reported time of passing. Then came the
part that sent chills, the cameras.
Rogan said the security system at the
Kirk home went offline for maintenance
between 11:30 p.m. and 4:00 a.m. The
same system that hadn't failed once in 6
years. He even played audio from a
former security contractor who confirmed
those cameras had a backup generator
that somehow failed too that night.
Coincidence? People online didn't think
so. Then Rogan went deeper, straight
into the money trail. He showed censored
bank records that, according to him,
came from trusted sources. They
allegedly showed nearly $5 million moved
from a joint account into an offshore
company just 9 days before Charlie's
passing. The company was reportedly tied
to one of Erica's longtime college
friends. Rogan's voice cracked when he
said, "That's not a savings account.
That looks like a payout." But the real
punch came around 2 hours in when Rogan
revealed text messages allegedly from
Charlie's phone before it was wiped. in
them. Charlie confronted Erica about a
rumored affair with a high ranking board
member, someone Rogan didn't name but
hinted at strongly. The final text
Charlie ever sent timestamped just after
100 a.m.
platform because of it. And I, you know,
I don't, like I said, I don't agree. I
don't think he some of the things he
said he should have said. But the fact
that people were cheering when he normal
people, housewives, moms, like people
working at banks, people working at
various industries celebrating a man
getting in front of his kids
in the front of the whole world. What
the is wrong with us?
Would soon fuel the entire internet's
obsession. Within hours, social media
exploded with theories. Old clips
resurfaced. Erica crying at the funeral
but never looking toward the casket.
Then came her first interview where she
said, "Charlie would want us to move
forward." While wearing a diamond
necklace reportedly worth hundreds of
thousands, bought just weeks after the
funeral. Rogan played that interview
next to an old clip of Charlie joking,
"If something ever happens to me, Erica
gets everything. That's why I never eat
her cooking without a taster." The
audience laughed back then, but nobody's
laughing now. And just when people
thought it couldn't get wilder, Rogan
started talking about the life insurance
policy. $35 million. That was the life
insurance amount with double payout if
the passing was ruled accidental. The
sole beneficiary, Erica Kirk, the
medical examiner's preliminary finding
was labeled undetermined, pending more
toxicology work. But Rogan claimed his
sources inside Phoenix PD told him the
full report had been delayed after
outside pressure from powerful
connections. Then came the moment that
made jaws drop. Rogan played an alleged
voicemail left for a detective by an
unnamed executive saying the case needed
to be wrapped up as natural causes. That
detective reportedly resigned 2 days
later. And just when things couldn't get
hotter, Candace Owens jumped into the
chaos less than half an hour after the
episode aired. She posted a fiery
30-second clip from her car, eyes
blazing, saying she'd been warning
everyone for months. The snake wasn't
outside the garden. It was right next to
him. Then she went live for 2 hours in a
stream that shattered YouTube viewership
records. She laid out her own claims
that Erica had allegedly erased files,
changed account details, and met with
that same board member at a Scottsdale
hotel just days before Charlie's
passing. Security footage from that
night reportedly showed them arguing in
the garage. The board members storming
off while Erica stayed behind, talking
on the phone for nearly an hour. Cell
data, according to Owens, linked that
call to an unregistered number traced
offshore. Rogan didn't shy away from the
hard question. Motive. He said this
wasn't about heartbreak. It was about
power. Charlie had reportedly been
preparing to clean house at the
organization, removing donors and staff
he suspected were exploiting their
influence. Erica Rogan claimed knew the
list existed and she knew her name was
on it not for personal issues but for
allegedly redirecting funds to a barely
active nonprofit in her name. Rogan said
Charlie was about to expose everything
and then he was gone. Then came the part
that stunned everyone. Rogan claimed a
household employee came forward saying
Erica once asked them to buy a specific
type of sleeping medication, the same
kind later found in Charlie's system in
massive amounts. The staffer said they
refused and two weeks later they were
fired over a lost watch. That same watch
was reportedly found in their car later
during a random police stop. The charges
dropped, but the warning was clear.
Rogan didn't end with anger. He ended
with heartbreak. He said he'd met Erica
many times, calling her smart, driven,
and ruthless in the sharpest way. But
then came his final words. Power changes
people. And when you marry someone like
Charlie Kirk, you either rise with him
or you break him. As of this morning,
reports claim Erica has vanished from
social media. Her home is gated tight,
security doubled, and reporters
stationed outside say even guards won't
confirm she's inside. Meanwhile, the
Maricopa County Sheriff's Office has
quietly reopened the case. This time,
labeling it a suspicious passing. And
just like that, Joe Rogan, the guy who
once just wanted to talk about elkmeat
and wild theories, has become one of the
most powerful voices in America. Because
when Joe Rogan says something shocking,
half the country listens instantly, and
the other half can't stop wondering why
Erica Kirk has stayed completely silent.
People are buzzing everywhere. And now
the question isn't what happened, it's
why hasn't she said anything? What's she
hiding? Or is she just waiting for the
storm to pass? The silence speaks louder
than any statement right now. In the
highstakes world of politics and power,
where loyalty means everything and
betrayal cuts the deepest, one voice has
completely shattered the calm, and that
voice belongs to Candace Owens. Her
words hit like thunder through the halls
of Turning Point USA and beyond. Once a
close ally in the conservative movement,
she's now dropped a revelation so
explosive that it's threatening to blow
apart everything people thought they
knew about Charlie Kirk's story. Owens
claimed that Erica, the widow, who
seamlessly stepped into Charlie's role
as CEO, didn't just suspect something
dark was happening around Charlie's
final days. She knew. Owen said Erica
had insight into the people closing in
on him and chose silence when it
mattered most. This all came out during
a live October broadcast of Owens's
show, which drew record-breaking viewers
still reeling from the September
tragedy. Charlie had been lost during a
speech at Utah Valley University,
reportedly by a lone gunman named Tyler
Robinson. Authorities said the case was
closed, tributes poured in, and the
story seemed over, but Owens wasn't
letting it rest. She opened her
broadcast with an icy calm, saying,
"I've held back long enough." Her voice
trembled like someone who'd seen
something they could never unsee. Then
came the chilling part. She said Charlie
came to her in a dream, crystal clear,
warning her with one word, betrayed. In
that vision, he pointed toward the ones
closest to him. And Owens's message was
simple. Erica knows. Within minutes,
social media went nuclear. Hashtags like
# Erica knows and #kirk betrayal started
trending worldwide. Viewers picked apart
every detail from Erica's calm funeral
speech where she promised to carry on
Charlie's mission to the alleged leaked
messages Owens showed on air. One viral
comment summed it up perfectly. If she
knew and stayed quiet, that's not grief.
That's guilt. But Owens didn't stop at
accusations. She fired back hard,
saying, "The truth isn't buried with
Charlie. It's walking around in a suit,
running his empire like nothing
happened. That line alone sent chills
down everyone's spine. And this wasn't
Owens's first strike either. She had
already been stirring the pot weeks
earlier, digging through the FBI's
timeline and calling it a cover up full
of holes. But this time, this time she
wasn't just hinting. She was naming
names and daring the world to question
everything they thought they knew. Tyler
Robinson, the man authorities said was
behind the attack, was caught at the
scene with a rambling note full of rage
toward conservative figures. But Candace
Owens argued he wasn't acting alone. In
a fiery follow-up stream, she claimed
sources had pointed out odd gaps in the
footage, irregular arrest logs, and how
he was suddenly labeled as unstable
right after being taken in. To her, it
smelled like a cover up, a cleanup job
wrapped in official paperwork. And
beneath all that chaos, Owen suggested
the real danger was coming from inside
Turning Point USA itself. She brought up
whispers of internal power struggles and
donor influence, saying that certain
figures had allegedly pressured Charlie
in private meetings to tow a strict line
politically or risk losing major
support. With Erica now caught in the
middle, Owens painted a story that felt
more like a political thriller than real
life. Then she dropped another twist,
saying she'd personally warned Charlie
about Erica's connections months earlier
during a tense private talk at a TUSA
event. I saw how she moved in those
donor meetings, Owens told her audience.
Always charming, always smoothing things
over. But those smiles never reached her
eyes. Charlie had laughed it off back
then, saying, "She's my rock." Owens
added coldly. Now those rocks are the
ones that sank him. The podcast went
into even deeper waters, reading out
alleged sponsor emails that seem to map
out backup plans if Charlie's stance
ever changed too much. One line read,
"If he waivers, we pivot. Family first."
Owens paused after reading it, staring
into the camera as if to say, "Pivot to
who?" When the episode ended, the
internet exploded again. This time, even
louder. Critics came swinging from every
direction. Laura Loomer, known for never
backing down from a fight, called Owens
cruel and unhinged for dragging a
grieving widow into the chaos. Imagine
accusing Charlie's wife of being part of
what happened to him," she posted,
sparking a flood of comments, both
defending and attacking Owens.
Supporters of Turning Point accused her
of exploiting Charlie's memory for
views, especially since her show had
suddenly rocketed to the top of
Spotify's charts. But Owens didn't back
down, not even a little. At midnight,
she posted a new thread with censored
text screenshots and directly tagged
Erica, writing, "Your silence is louder
than any denial. Charlie deserve better
and so does this country. The ripple
effect reached all the way to
Washington. During a White House
ceremony, Charlie was honored with the
Presidential Medal of Freedom. Erica
accepted it with composure, giving a
polished speech about truth and unity.
But offstage, insiders whispered that
staff were scrambling to distance
themselves from Owens's claims before
things fractured the movement even
further. And through it all, the tension
kept climbing. The applause may have
echoed across the room that day, but the
questions hanging in the air were louder
than ever. While others tried to steer
clear of the drama, dismissing
everything as conspiracy talk, Candace
Owens wasn't backing down. She fired
back live on air, saying, "Charlie's not
resting. He's rolling in his grave
because the truth is being buried
alive." Her voice trembled with
conviction as she called Erica not just
someone who knew, but someone acting as
the gatekeeper to everything hidden
beneath the surface. As the night wore
on and her podcast neared its end, Owens
shifted gears. The fire in her tone
softened into something more personal.
She started talking about the dream that
had sparked it all. The one she said
changed everything. I don't dream like
that often, she confessed quietly. The
last time was when I was pregnant, and
that intuition saved lives. This one,
it's saving Charlie's legacy. Owens
described the haunting vision in vivid
detail. Charlie standing at the foot of
her bed, wearing his usual dark suit,
the cuffs torn, his expression tired but
full of sorrow. Betrayed by the inner
circle, he allegedly whispered before
fading away. Then she heard footsteps,
and in the dream, she swore they sounded
just like Erica's confident stride
leaving the room. Critics instantly
mocked her story as an attention grab,
calling it a ghost tale for clicks. But
thousands of listeners said they
believed her. They started sharing their
own eerie dreams and signs claiming
Charlie was trying to communicate from
beyond. Social media turned into a war
zone overnight. Sides formed fast.
Owens's supporters calling themselves
the truth sentinels flooded the internet
with screenshots, documents, and
timelines. Massive archives that grew by
the hour. Meanwhile, the opposing camp,
led by Loomer and TPUSA loyalists,
launched # stopcandis, accusing Owens of
dividing people and disrespecting
Charlie's memory. Memes went wild, some
showing Erica as a chess queen knocking
over her king, others depicting Owens as
a ghost hunting detective. One viral
edit even synced Charlie's final speech
with Owens's dream, twisting his words,
"Fight on," into find out. And then the
chaos left the internet and hit the
streets. Protesters gathered outside
TPUSA headquarters in Phoenix. On one
side, Owen supporters demanded Erica's
resignation. On the other, mourners held
photos of Charlie with signs reading,
"Let him rest." Finally, Erica broke her
silence kind of. She released a short
statement through the organization's
account. "Speculation dishonors my
husband's memory and our family's pain.
We remain focused on his mission, but
that calm response only raised more
questions. Why no direct denial? Why no
lawsuit against Owens for defamation?
Behind closed doors, insiders whispered
that the legal team was too afraid to
dig deeper, worried about what else
could surface if the truth came out.
Owens sensed the shift immediately and
doubled down again. She announced a
truth summit for the following week,
inviting whistleblowers, donors, and
yes, even Erica herself. But this wasn't
a peace offering. It was a public
challenge. "Come on the show," she
tweeted. "Let's put it all on the
table." Charlie would want that. The
promo for Candace Owens's upcoming Truth
Summit came with a cryptic teaser clip,
a fragment from another dream. In it,
she claimed Charlie handed her a key
engraved with the words ease secrets.
Was it pure drama or a sign of something
real? Online, most people bet on the
latter. Speculation went wild with fans
creating online polls and betting pools
about what massive revelation she'd
dropped next as pressure mounted.
Familiar faces began quietly backing
away. But new allies appeared in the
most unexpected places. Tucker Carlson,
a longtime Kirk associate, made subtle
nods to Owens during his monologue,
hinting that uncomfortable truths were
surfacing. Then camedian and podcaster
Dave Smith, someone who had publicly
debated Charlie in the past, who
retweeted Owens's key clip with just one
emoji, a lit fuse. That single symbol
said everything. And then the biggest
twist, Joe Rogan himself chimed in.
During a casual segment on his show, he
mused, "If Candace is right about this
whole wife angle, man, that's some
succession level drama right there."
coming from Rogan, the same person who
hosted Charlie's final interview before
his passing. That comment carried
serious weight. Suddenly, even the
skeptics started paying attention.
Meanwhile, inside Erica's world, things
were reportedly getting tense. Sources
whispered about late night board
meetings where her leadership was being
dissected line by line. Donors who had
quietly distanced themselves after the
tragedy were now returning, but not
without conditions. Owens claimed those
donors were given private asurances.
payments, even to stay loyal and keep
quiet. Then she dropped another digital
grenade, an alleged email chain, with
names blacked out, showing six figure
stability funds wired to the
organization just one day after
Charlie's funeral. Owens called it blood
money, vowing to trace every cent. That
claim set off a frenzy among online
investigators and crypto enthusiasts who
started tracking blockchain wallets to
follow the money trail. Some claimed
those funds were linked to obscure
political groups and overseas lobbying
circles. Whether true or not, the drama
snowballed [ __ ] Mainstream media outlets
tried to tread carefully, reporting
cautiously about Owens while labeling
her a conspiracy chaser. But cracks
began to show in that narrative, too.
Because as each day passed, her claims
were being backed up with more receipts,
more clips, and more public reactions
from insiders who'd once sworn they'd
stay silent. CNN's Jake Tapper dropped a
single question mark emoji under Candace
Owens's post. One tiny symbol that sent
the internet into overdrive. Over on
Fox, prime time anchors teased exclusive
insights from inside the Kirk family,
while international outlets jumped in,
too. The Guardian called it a right-wing
unraveling, tying it to bigger political
tensions, while Israeli media blasted
Owens as reckless and dangerous. The
world was watching and opinions were
splitting fast. Polls on major
conservative platforms showed something
wild. 62% of voters believed Erica knew
something with the number climbing even
higher among Gen Z conservatives,
Owens's biggest fan base. For them, this
wasn't just gossip. It was another sign
of corruption and cover-ups in powerful
circles. Meanwhile, online petitions
demanding an independent autopsy review
exploded past half a million signatures,
pointing to timeline inconsistencies.
things like a mysterious 12-minute
camera blackout and odd travel delays
the morning of the tragedy. But as the
frenzy grew, even Owens started feeling
the cracks forming around her. Late
night trolls flooded her comments,
spreading counter stories, calling her
dream scripted, even dropping fake
videos to make her look unhinged.
Anonymous accounts claimed the texts she
leaked were stolen from an ex-staffer.
And Loomer turned up the heat by doxing
people rumored to be Owens's sources,
calling them grifters for hire. Owens
fired back immediately. Live and
unfiltered. She revealed a new supposed
leak, a calendar invite from Erica to
something called a legacy pivot meeting
dated just one week before Charlie's
passing. That detail reignited
everything. And this time it looked like
the walls were closing in on all sides.
TPUSA scrambled to save face, announcing
an internal audit with Erica leading it
and promising complete transparency.
Owens wasn't impressed. Cander from the
keeper of secrets, she mocked on air.
We'll see about that. Within hours, her
truth summit completely sold out.
Virtual tickets, too. She said the
proceeds would fund truth fellowships to
help investigators keep digging. The
story had officially gone global, and it
was no longer about one family, one
tragedy, or one movement. It had become
a fullblown reckoning. So, what do you
think? Did Erica know more than she's
saying, or is this all smoke and
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MAGA Parents CONFRONTED by Kids… it BACKFIRES!
Adam Mockler
Nov 29, 2025 The Adam Mockler Show

Chris Mowrey (‪@chrisdmowrey‬) filling in for Adam Mockler with MeidasTouch Network breaks down a stunning podcast recording from ‪@TheNecessaryConversation‬ where a son and daughter confront their MAGA parents. The conversation exposes the terrifying depth of Trump's hold on his base, as the parents defend Trump calling a reporter "piggy," accuse their own daughter of making up a story about Trump harassing her in an elevator, and explicitly state they would support Trump ordering the military to execute American citizens because "'there has to be a reason'".



Transcript

All right, today is going to be a good
time. I have lined up several clips with
the help of Adam Mockler that I have not
seen before and I am going to react to
this podcast that's essentially like a,
you know, a son who is talking to his
MAGA parents about Trump. And it's like
family therapy mixed with politics where
he's like pressing his MAGA family on
how bad Trump is. And I think it gets
pretty intense. So, we're going to take
a watch. It's going to be interesting.
Um, really quickly, if you haven't seen
me before, my name is Chris Mauy. I'm
filling in for Adam Mach on the Adam
Mockler channel. If you enjoy this type
of content, the link to my YouTube
channel is in the description down
below. It means so much if you check out
and make one of these videos on my
channel, too. So, if you want to check
it out, again, link in the description.
Uh, on this channel, trying to build
something big to punch back against MAGA
Media. We upload so many videos every
single day here on the Adam channel. So,
if you're not subscribed already, it
would mean a lot. Join the community.
Help us grow. You guys are the best.
Now, I want to preface before we start.
Again, this is what Trump has done to
the brains of millions of people across
the country. Now, I want to preface one
thing before we start. Again, I have not
seen these clips, but I've been told
they are very bad. And so, remember, and
I'll do the same as we watch this.
Millions of Americans every single day
are thinking like this because of Donald
Trump. All right, let's start with the
first clip.
Was a reporter asking about the Epstein
files and he called her piggy. You think
that is appropriate behavior, Dad, for a
US president?
Sure.
Okay. Mom,
it probably wasn't nice to say piggy.
Well, nice.
Did it Did it harm her?
Did it harm her? This is the president
of the United States calling a female
reporter piggy.
Did it harm her? It it harmed the entire
country because it sets the example that
not only a man but the president can
talk to women that way.
It's not nice. Shouldn't have said it.
It's not funny. It's disgusting.
It is funny.
What What's the humor in it to you, Dad?
Well, I would have called her worse than
that. So, I thought she got off easy.
Why would you have called her worse than
that? because she's giving him crap and
he's the president of the United States.
As Haley said,
the it's real rich that uh Donald Trump
is calling anyone piggy.
I don't understand that.
I don't understand what she's asking
either.
That just sounded like bunch mumbling.
He's a pig in several ways. Do I need to
explain why?
Wow. Okay. What a stunning first clip.
So, I think this must be like the sister
or, you know, the daughter essentially.
It's it's a brother and a sister and
then their parents. Um, and it's a
podcast and they're pressing their MAGA
parents. And this is fairly recent.
Obviously, Donald Trump calling a
reporter Piggy and he says just
horrible, awful things about women. He's
been found liable for sexually abusing a
woman, a woman, excuse me. Um, and I I
think she said it so well in that clip
that it's like, why is the bar for
president of United States in effing
hell? It's like, yeah, I probably
shouldn't have said it. It's not nice.
This isn't like your uncle at
Thanksgiving dinner who, oh, I probably
shouldn't have said that. That wasn't
This is the leader of the United States
of America setting an example for
millions of people, children.
He's a leader. Act like a leader.
Unbelievable. Let's go to the next clip.
This is insane.
You cannot be this stupid. Jesus. No.
It's because you're in a cult.
What if Donald Trump says, "I want you
to carpet bomb Oklahoma City." Everyone.
You think the Air Force should carry
that out?
Yes.
There might be a reason. We don't know.
This is insane.
You cannot be this stupid. Jesus Christ.
Oh my my. This podcast was going well
until that.
You just said it's cool. We levels
Oklahoma. You're like, "Yeah, [ __ ] it.
There must be a reason." Like, you
literally can't be that dumb.
You know what the problem is? Mom and I
don't believe he'll ever blow up
Oklahoma because we're on his side and
so is the whole state.
No, it's because you're in a cult.
You guys are worried and afraid because
you live in a state where it might
happen.
Okay. Let's theoretically say that does
happen. Let's say Trump sends in the
Marines to Los Angeles, California. And
let's say I'm out going to see a movie
on a weekend and he says, "Go into that
shopping mall
under a truck."
Quiet piggy. He says, "Go into that
shopping mall and everyone you see." And
let's say I get gunned down by the
Marines for just being at a mall.
Okay, number one. Let's just Let's just
take
Wait a minute. Mom. Mom, wait one
second. Wait one second. Dad, just Hang
on. Mom. Dad, you just said you are for
Donald Trump murdering me for no reason
and you would support that.
If he walks into a mall to people with
with military,
there has to be a reason.
There's a reason and I'm all for it. And
the people in Los Angeles, California
are as deserving of execution as the
[ __ ] in New York City. You're all
communists,
bro. This is a This is crazy.
Wow. Oh my god. I mean, I was ready for
like
I'm kind of sh I was ready for like MAGA
conspiracy. I was not ready for this
level. And again, I mean, I guess it
makes sense now why Adam told me to
preface that this is how millions of
Americans are thinking right now.
Because I mean, that is crazy. And
again, my first thought in my head as I
react to that is like the same people
who have spent so long screaming and
yelling that, you know, big government,
there's this big evil government coming
after us. Don't, you know, don't shred
on me. The government's, you know, far
too big, and we need to go back to
conservative values and small
government. Now, it's literally like, if
Donald Trump carpet bombs a city, if
Donald Trump murders my children, I just
I I trust the government. I don't need
any evidence. we they could just do it
and tell us, you know, uh Donald Trump
could say, "I have the evidence, but I'm
not telling anyone." And they would go,
"Okay, that's fine." Just like this
crazy blind trust of this growing
massive government. It's insane. Wow.
Okay, let's go to the next one.
That in he was a veteran and then he was
like thrown out there. He was in space.
What does that have to do with the price
of eggs? The space
because he's he's devoted his life to
this country. in any other country if he
would go on the TV and spout that [ __ ]
off he would be executed.
That's not true.
That's not true at all. He's a traitor.
Should uh members of military follow
unlawful orders?
Yes.
What?
They should follow any order that the
president gives the government.
That's wrong. Even if it breaks laws,
it will endanger other people if you
don't follow orders.
What if President Trump orders uh a a
squad of army guys to walk down the
street killing anyone they see? They
should do it.
Yes,
mom.
Yes.
What?
I don't even understand. Like, how can
you come to that conclusion? Sounds to
me like you lefties are now beginning to
fear the fact that the military is going
to get involved and your asses are
grass.
The dude the dad is literally like
happily and he did this in the last
clip. I guess I just didn't mention it
in my reaction that I mean he's like
calling for the execution of people in
blue cities and states and then when
we're talking about lawful orders he
just comes back to like I mean if Trump
does it there must be a reason. Sounds
like you're scared that
again there is no like this sedicious
six and all it's all BS right it's very
simple the military has should uphold
the constitution of the United States
right you don't nobody serves the
president and anybody in government
should always obviously have the
constitution and laws uh the founding of
our country at the top of their head if
Donald Trump gave an unlawful order you
should not follow it Right. That's
actually what you promised to uphold.
Your oath to the Constitution, not your
oath to some orange guy. Dude, this is
this is honestly stunning. All right,
let's go to the next one.
Remember the story Haley told of meeting
Donald Trump?
I you know what? I never remember her
telling me that story ever until she
told it.
Haley, please, for people who are new to
our show, please tell them this story. I
went to New York City in college like on
a study tour. Um we were like doing the
fashion district and all this [ __ ] and
part of our tour we were there for like
a week. We got to go to the Trump Towers
and as we are on the elevator thing it
opens, we still have to go up a level.
Donald Trump gets on the elevator with
us. Um,
I cannot remember exactly what happened,
but I remember him commenting. We're all
teenagers at this point, like
18-year-old freshman college students.
Um, and he commented on a lot of our
appearances,
like beautiful young women, like while
we're in the elevator with Donald Trump.
We are children. Like, you know what I
looked like at 18?
children.
I remember you telling us this story a
few years back, but I don't remember you
telling me about it when it happened.
When it really happened, did you?
Yeah, it was so traumatic. It took you
10 or 15 years to let us know.
They're accusing their child right now.
Bro, this podcast is crazy. I I shout
out to the people who do this podcast. I
imagine it's very difficult to share
this with the internet. But again, how
millions of Americans are think they are
accusing their daughter of of making
this up right now as if their daughter
is making up a story to make Trump look
bad. A story personal to her.
Like they literally have more loyalty to
Trump than their own children.
They Oh my god,
dude. Do you see? Wow. Wow.
How about it?
But did he touch you? Did he touch you
in any way? Did he grope you? Did he do
anything that was inappropriate?
Dude, what the hell? What the hell? Did
he touch you? Is insane.
Oh my god,
dude. He's He's in an elevator of like
teenagers talking. Can you listen to
your daughter? Oh my god.
He's saying you were all beautiful. You
think that's okay to be in an elevator
full of teenagers and comment on their
appearance that they're beautiful young
women?
First of all, I'd like to see a picture
of the whole group before I think he was
wrong.
Okay. So, you you just don't believe any
you don't even believe victims. So, why
are you even in a conversation?
Everybody's a liar to you.
There you go.
This is your daughter telling you she
and her fellow students were harassed by
Donald Trump and you're saying it didn't
happen.
How is that harass?
You guys are beautiful young women.
That's you pulling it out of your ass.
That's not harass.
Your daughter is telling you that that's
what happened and you're denying it.
You're ignoring her.
She's not telling me that. I I mean,
Haley, is that what you're saying?
That is what I'm saying.
Wow. I mean, it's so sad to and and I
know that a lot of people have
experiences with this. You can let me
know in the comments down below. Like,
again, just how I can't I can only
imagine I can't imagine, excuse me, how
hard it must be to be the children here.
Like, your just relationship with your
parents must deteriorate so much when
they're that I mean, they're in like a
literal state of psychosis.
suggesting that their daughter is making
up stories
uh to make Donald Trump look bad. I
mean, they have picked
they have picked a president over their
own children. They have picked someone
they've never met over their own
children. And they talk to their
children as if almost like I was
debating them on TikTok. Like they don't
they're like I don't know how to
describe it. Wow. Stunning. Okay. And I
do want to point out here that there are
so many reasons to know that Donald
Trump I mean it's endless that Donald
Trump very clearly treats women like
complete and total [ __ ] He's a
predator. Donald Trump is a predator,
right? Donald Trump has been found
liable for sexually abusing, excuse me,
for liable for sexually abusing a woman.
The judge in that case called Donald
Trump a rapist because that's what he
is. He's obviously been accused by
dozens of other women's women, excuse
me. He has bragged about walking into
the dressing room at his pageantss
because they begin while the girls are
undressing to quote inspect it, right?
Bragging that he owns the place so he
can walk back. These are teenagers,
underage girls. Obviously, Donald Trump
is best effing friends with Jeffrey
Epstein, right? It goes on and on. We've
heard the Hollywood Access take. You can
grab him by the blank. I mean, the guy
the evidence is
that Donald Trump is a president and is
absolutely even just the last few weeks
the way we've seen him talk to women.
It's not just a piggy comment, but he
said it now to multiple reporters. And
it's always interesting. It's
specifically women, right? And the way
he talks, it's so clear that he he in
private I I don't even want to think
about how he treats these individuals.
He's misogynistic as hell. He hates
women. He's a predator. He obviously is
an abuser. And it's honestly stunning.
All right, let's watch one more here and
we'll end off. Let me know in the
comments if you want me to make more
videos like this. I think I'll make one
on my channel. This podcast is crazy.
All right, let's take a listen.
Peter,
what?
Would you all please have courtesy to
listen to what I want to say and quit
laughing at me? I don't laugh at your
[ __ ]
You and dad make fun of us every week
constantly. I don't look at him as a
politician, but rather a man who
believed and tried to instill in others
the right of free speech, which is what
I'm trying to do right now as you laugh
in my face. That's what the necessary
conversation is all about, too. But when
you sit there and laugh, that's nervous
laughing. By the way, he loved to have
discussions with college kids to agree
or disagree in debates in a civilized.
Sounds like we're talking about Charlie
Kirk here. Just for the record,
fashion that made them think.
That's what everybody's That's what
everybody was afraid about. He was
turning our youth into thinking the
right way. I truly believe that he
debated these kids with dignity. He made
them think. They came to listen. Freedom
of speech is for all of us. And there
are but there are also consequences
to your freedom of speech. I do believe
he never brought harm to anyone. He
believed in God. He never called others
by wrong names.
remember you said that because I've got
a clip I'm going to show you.
Yeah. So, I do want to point out, you
know, in the beginning here, and again,
I I think what happened to Charlie C
truly tragic, absolutely tragic, awful
for our country, for for the people
there. Uh, and you know, I wishing
family well. She called him a civil
rights leader. No. And here's the thing.
It's possible to believe that what
happened to Charlie Kirk is tragic while
also agreeing that he spit racist,
hateful, awful um ideologies and things,
right? And he certainly was not a civil
rights leader. He's somebody who
actually said that Martin Luther King
was a uh bad guy is what he said. Take a
listen. Radical
view that the country made a mistake
when it passed the Civil Rights Act.
Also true. As we note in the piece, Kirk
has previously described Kirk as a hero
and a civil rights icon. It's true. I
used to be wrong. We note in our piece
that Kirk describes King as quote a bad
guy. It's true. And Kirk self-described
very, very radical
view that the country made a mistake
when it passed the Civil Rights Act.
Also true. As we note in the piece, Kirk
has previously described Kirk as a hero
and a civil rights icon. It's true. I
used to be wrong. What inspired Kirk to
shift his view on MLK? Why does Kirk
think that MLK is a bad guy? When Kirk
says that MLK says quote one good thing
he didn't believe, what does he mean by
that? Why does Kirk believe passing the
Civil Rights Act was a mistake? Now
again, apparently they don't listen to
the show because we do that at least
once a week, right?
I mean, unbelievable. Unbelievable. Here
the man who says that MK was a bad guy,
that MK that excuse me, we shouldn't
have passed uh the Civil Rights Act.
This is a civil rights leader according
to the mom of the podcast. Absolutely
not. Absolutely not. and he's bit a lot
of hateful, hateful things. Listen, let
me know if you want me to make more
videos like this. I'm honestly shell
shocked. This podcast is crazy. Once
again, my name is Chris Mauy, filling in
for Adam Mockler on the Adam Mockler
channel. There's a link to my YouTube
channel in the description down below.
Make sure you subscribe to the Adam
Mockler channel. I hope you have a great
rest of your weekend and I will see you
in the next
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