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Pentagon Press Conference Cold Open - SNL
Saturday Night Live
Dec 6, 2025

Secretary of War Pete Hegseth (Colin Jost) holds a press conference to address the military strikes off the coast of Venezuela.



Transcript

-You're watching C-SPAN.
Hey, Netflix. We're for sale, too.
We now go to the Pentagon for a press conference
with the Secretary of Defense.
[ Flash bulbs popping ]
-Ladies and gentlemen of the press...
as you know, there have been concerns
about ongoing military action off the coast of Venezuela.
Here to answer all your questions
in a calm, non-aggressive fashion
is Secretary of War...
P-e-e-e-e-ete Hegseth!
[ Heavy-metal music plays ]
♪♪
-Yeah! All right. Shut the hell up!
Shut it! Cut the music.
[ Music shuts off ]
What?!
First things first.
Where are the fatties?
You! Out!
-W-What? I'm not even fat!
-Oh, really?
You think you're hiding it under that blazer, Porky?!
Who do you write for? "The Chicago Trombone"?
Cause that's what they play when your fat ass walks around!
Now listen up!
As you probably read in some gay newspaper,
we're now at war with Venezuela!
All you nerds are like, "Wait!
But was there an official declaration of war?"
Yeah, it's right here.
Super finger! Dane Cook!
Now, you got questions for me?!
Fine. Pretend I'm a random fishing boat and fire away!
-O...kay.
Uh, is there any truth to the allegations
that after an initial strike on a drug-smuggling boat,
you ordered a second strike to kill the survivors?
-Uh, first of all, that kind of cruel, heartless act
has no place in Operation Kill Everybody.
Second, I wasn't even in the room when it happened, okay?
I was so jacked up after the first strike,
I had to make an emergency call to my sponsor.
Sorry. A guy I met at an anonymous meeting.
So I don't drink something that I like and I want
but I can't have, but I want it and I need it.
And I want it right now.
♪ Ba, ba, ba-ba-da ♪ It's booze!
Next question. -Yes.
What do you say to Senator Mark Kelly,
who said you act like a 12-year-old playing Army?
-[ Scoffs ] First of all, Kelly? That's a girl's name.
What's his first name? Dress? [ Wheezes ]
-No. It's Mark. Like I said.
-Oh, get a husband!
-I'm trying!
-Well, to answer your question, if I was just "playing Army,"
would there be 80 dead fisherm--
narco terrorists in Venezuela right now?
Next question!
-Yeah. So is 80 the official death toll?
-"Uh-- Wha-- Is 80 the official wha--"
No! It's six, seven, six, seven.
Idiot!
Let's just say if I had a drink
for every Venezuelan we've killed,
I'd really like that number of drinks.
All right. Next. Oh, my God. Is that Matt Gaetz?!
-♪ That's right ♪ It's me, Matt Gaetz.
I'm a reporter now. Heh-heh!
Question.
You're only killing people who are trafficking drugs, right?
So, hypothetically, if someone
were trafficking something else, they'd be okay?
-W-We're targeting drug smugglers exclusively.
-Giggity. No further questions, Your Honor.
-Uh, I have a question.
-Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Will and Grace, go.
-My name is actually William Grace.
Uh, how do you respond to the allegations
that the so-called "war on smugglers"
is a smokescreen for regime change?
-Ohh! Wuh-Wuh-Way to solve the mystery, Scoob!
Of course, that's what we're doing!
And it always works!
Just like it did in Guatemala, Nicaragua, Cuba, Brazil...
♪ Bolivia, Panama, Haiti, El Salvador ♪
♪ Chile, Honduras, Peru ♪
Animaniacs!
Now, are we done here?! I'm actually worried
I'm gonna catch dork from you nerds.
-Uh, Secretary Hegseth,
some people are accusing you of war crimes.
Even the President has been distancing himself from you.
-Oh, wow. That's interesting.
I actually have a question for you.
Have you ever kissed a girl?
Like, I'm genuinely asking.
-I have a wife. -Oh. Okay.
Well, send her my way
when she wants to actually feel something.
Anyway, to answer your question,
President Trump has my back 100%.
You want to know why?
'Cause unlike you beta cucks,
he's a high-energy alpha who trusts me
and listens to me no matter what.
Isn't that right, Mr. President?
-Oh.
Oh, stop. Stop, Mamdani. Ohh.
You can freeze my rent anytime.
I wasn't sleeping. I'm very much awake.
Now someone quickly tell me. Where am I?
Who am I? And what year might it be?
-Ha ha! Good one, Mr. President.
Everything you do that's weird is a joke.
I was just telling everyone here that I have your full support.
-Absolutely. We love Pete. He's a great guy.
It was just fog of war, right? Fog of war.
It's a thing you only say after doing war crime. Right?
You never hear a general go,
"Everything went according to plan in fog of war."
It's like when you go into the sauna at Equinox,
and suddenly you're doing stuff you never did before.
Fog of war. Fog of war. We love it.
It's a great new excuse. We love it.
So I stand by Pete. And nothing can change my mind.
Unless, of course, it could hurt me in any way.
In which case, I'll throw him under
one of Mamdani's free buses.
Final question.
-Uh, yes, Mr. President.
More Americans, including your own voters,
now blame you for the affordability crisis.
What's your message to them?
-Shh! He's sleeping.
We gotta get him to another MRI before he wakes up.
And live from New York...
-It's "Saturday Night"!

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He Did Everything To SMEAR" Epstein's Mearsheimer Plot Revealed in Leaks | With Alan Dershowitz
Piers Morgan Uncensored
Dec 4, 2025

Almost 20 years ago, Professor John Mearsheimer published a paper and later a book called ‘The Israel Lobby & US Foreign Policy.’ It’s now considered to be a seminal text on the outsized impact of lobbyists and think-tanks who skew US foreign policy in Israel’s national interest and not their own.

Mearsheimer and his co-author were - unusually for two unassuming academics - hit with a barrage of negative media stories and accusations of antisemitism. And leaked emails now show that one of the people colluding over these talking points to discredit John Mearsheimer was, along with his lawyer Alan Dershowitz, none other than Jeffrey Epstein.

The question, of course, is why?

Piers Morgan speaks to John Mearsheimer, before being joined by Alan Dershowitz.

Comments

@chrisd2896
3 days ago
John J. Mearsheimer stated on Substack:
"It is amazing to me, given the viciousness of Dershowitz’s attacks on me and Steve in 2006 and afterwards, to hear him now describe himself as merely engaging in a rational-legal academic debate. Nothing could be further from the truth. It struck me that Dershowitz’s response shows how much has changed since 2006 in terms of the lobby’s position (and Israel’s) in our public discourse. Dershowitz was clearly on the defensive in his interview with Piers, which is a stunning transformation for someone who in the past ferociously attacked anyone who criticized Israel in the slightest way."

Transcript

Introduction and monologue
It's hard to deny that the lobby goes to enormous lengths to skew American
foreign policy in a pro-Israel way. This includes people like Alan Duruititz work
overtime to suppress any discourse that's critical of Israel, critical of
the USIsraeli relationship or critical of the lobby. I'm about to speak to Alan Dersawitis.
Do you have any message for him? He'll know exactly what to say. I am not a lobbyist for Israel. I'm not a member
of the Mossad. I am an American, a loyal American. You're very aware. There have been these
ongoing rumors about Epstein. Having an exchange with somebody who I knew and
somebody who was pro-Israel uh doesn't prove either that I did anything wrong or that he had a connection with the
Most High. Almost 20 years ago, John Messhimer published a paper letter a book called
the Israel lobby and US foreign policy. It's considered to be a seminal text on the outsized impact of lobbyists and
think tanks who skew US foreign policy in Israel's national interest and not their own. Professor Mir Shimmer and his
co-author were unusually for two unassuming academics hit with a barrage of negative media stories and
accusations of anti-semitism. leaked emails now show that one of the people colluding over these talking points to
discredit John Mayor Shimmer was along with his lawyer Alan Dersowitz none other than Jeffrey Epstein. The question
of course is why? Well, for his side of the story and what he believes epstey's motives were is renowned international
relations scholar professor John M. Professor M, welcome back to Uncensored.
John Mearsheimer explains the two problems confronting Netanyahu as he makes pardon plea
Glad to be here as always peers. I'm I'm going to get to what I was just referring to in that intro in a few
moments, but first of all, just a couple of things I wanted to uh discuss with you. First of all, this almost
unprecedented request by Prime Minister Netanyahu uh to his own president Isaac
Herdzog for a full pardon um involving these uh bribery and fraud charges that
have been brought against him for which he's been standing trial albeit with multiple pauses because of the ongoing
uh war in Gaza. Um what do you make of this?
Well, I think that Netanyahu faces two big problems. One is a national
commission that looks into who's responsible for October 7th, and he
wants to avoid that like the plague. And then there's this trial that's going on where there is a lot of evidence that
he's guilty. Uh, and he wants to shut that down for obvious reasons. And uh
President Trump uh has on a number of occasions said that Netanyahu should be
pardoned. And by the way, he's making the argument that he should be pardoned before he's even found guilty. Uh and
now uh the president of Israel himself, Isaac Herzog, uh has been asked to
pardon Netanyahu. And I read uh Herzog's statement on the issue and I think he
understands that uh if he pardons Netanyahu, he is playing with fire. This
is not to say that he wouldn't do it, but if you purport to be a democracy like Israel does, uh you have a
deep-seated interest in making sure that people pay attention to the rule of law.
And given that Netanyahu has been charged and this trial has been taking place, it seems to me that uh any
self-respecting democracy uh would want to see the trial play out and see
whether there's a conviction or not before you get a pardon. Yeah, 100% totally agree. Um the other
John Mearsheimer reacts to video of Israeli soldiers executing Palestinians
very contentious thing that came out of the weekend uh about the situation in Gaza, it was actually on the West Bank
actually. Uh this was video emerging that showed Israeli security forces
shooting dead two Palestinians who had apparently from what we saw on the video
surrendered in the occupied West Bank. Um and after they had surrendered, they
were then ushered back uh into this area they had come out from and were shot
dead. Uh which many think was a breach of the Geneva Convention, which was a clear execution, therefore a a war
crime. Uh Israel says it's investigating. But what did you think of that?
Well, I find these cases hardly surprising at all. After all, Israel has
been accused of waging a genocide in Gaza. uh and genocide is the crime of
all crimes and all sorts of people believe that Israel is committing a
genocide. Uh a large number of human rights groups have investigated this issue and have concluded the genocide is
taking place. The UN has set up an international commission to investigate it and has come to that conclusion. Uh
prominent uh scholars including Israeli scholars have come to that conclusion.
So for a country that's committing genocide in uh Gaza, it's hardly
surprising that they're shooting uh innocent civilians in the West Bank. I
mean, it's just the way the Israelis operate. There's just nothing surprising here at this point.
John Mearsheimer: “There is no chance for a Ukraine-Russia peace deal”
Just turning quickly to Ukraine. Um a lot of stuff going on here, a lot of uh
push from the Americans to try and get a peace deal. Do you think there's any chance of a peace deal?
There's no chance. And the reason is that the Russians have a series of
demands that they view as non-negotiable that neither the Ukrainians nor the
Europeans will accept. And in fact, if you look at the Ukrainian and the European position visa v these Russian
demands, uh they're on the other side of the dipole. They disagree uh almost
completely with what the uh Russians want. So I don't see any way that
President uh Trump can get a deal that satisfies both the Ukrainians and the
Russians. And I would note to you peers that President Trump came up with or his administration came up with this 28point
plan and there were many complaints that the Ukrainians and the Europeans had not seen the plan and they were terribly
unhappy with it. It was dead on arrival and it was obviously a Russian plan. I
think that's wrongheaded. In fact, the plan, the the original 28point plan that
was leaked, uh, was dead on arrival for the Russians as well as the Ukrainians and the Europeans. And what the American
negotiators, and this is Jared Kushner and Steve Witoff, were trying to do was they were trying to sort of find a
middle position that would satisfy both sides. And they couldn't find that. And they couldn't find it because it's not
there to be had. And this is why this war is ultimately going to be settled on the battlefield when one side or the
other wins. There's also mounting speculation that
President Zalinski may lose office uh because of what's been going on with his
number two who's just had to resign over mass corruption allegations. Uh would
that change the dynamic at all if that was to happen? No, I don't think so at all. I think
first of all with regard to events on the battlefield which as I said are really crucial uh I don't think getting
a new president or keeping Zalinski in power matters one iota. Uh now one could
argue that you'll get a new president who's interested in reaching a peace
agreement with the Russians and that new president in Ukraine would go to great lengths to accommodate the Russians. I
think this is extremely unlikely. I hope it happens, but it's not going to happen in my opinion. And the end result is
that whoever replaces Zalinski will not look very different from Zilinski in
terms of his willingness to wage the war. Let's turn to uh what I was talking
John Mearsheimer on Jeffrey Epstein - Alan Dershowitz emails
about with my intro. This is um it's sort of extraordinary situation. I want to tear it up for viewers by explaining
the sort of background to this which is that in 2006
uh there was a working paper the Israel lobby and US foreign policy published in
March of that year by the Harvard Kennedy School. It became the basis for a book published the following year. The
book was an analysis of the impact of pro-Israel advocacy and lobbying groups on the US political system and the role
of organizations like the American Israel Public Affairs Committee APAC in shaping US foreign policy towards the
Middle East. And there was a furious and almost instantaneous backlash um very
unusual really in the world of academia at the time. A wave of news articles describing the authors of which you were
one as anti-semites. the Anti-Defamation League weighing in to denounce what they
called an anti-Jewish screed. The pressure became so intense that the Kennedy School removed its logo from the
paper and added a disclaimer distancing the institution from its arguments. All
this is with the backdrop of ongoing rumor mill that Epstein was in some uh
way an Israeli asset, maybe even employed by Moss, which has been roundly
denied, but continues to be fueled as a rumor. And against the backdrop of that,
it becomes a little more credible to believe it. So, first of all, your reaction to these emails that have come
out which uh reveal what was going on at the time between uh Jeffrey Epstein and
Alan Dersowitz? Well, I certainly knew at the time that
Alan Dersowitz had us, me and Steve Walt in his gun sites and he was doing
everything he could to smear us. Uh, I had no idea that he was cooperating with
Jeffrey Epstein in that endeavor. Uh, I don't think I even knew who Jeffrey
Epstein was in 2006 when the original piece came out in the London Review of
Books or even in 2007 when the book itself was published. But I'm not
surprised at all now that I've seen a few of the emails uh that Durowitz and
Epstein were uh cooperating with each other uh to smear me and Steve. I mean
after all they were good friends. Dersowitz was Epstein's lawyer. And both of them are uh individuals who have a
passionate attachment to Israel and will go to enormous lengths to defend Israel
no matter what. Uh so in a very important way it's not surprising at all that Epstein was cooperating with
Durowitz. Do you think there there could be merit to the rumors that Epstein was more
Is there credence to claims Epstein was a Mossad asset?
heavily involved with Mossad with the Israeli government at the time?
Oh sure. I mean we have to wait and see. We have to see all of the uh emails and all the evidence that comes out when the
Department of Justice releases uh the files. But a number of people who have
seen big chunks of the files say that one thing that strikes them is the
extent to which uh Epstein was involved with Israel and Israel related matters.
Uh there's just no question that uh there is a deep interest in helping
Israel in all sorts of ways on Epstein's part. But exactly what that means,
especially with regard to the MSAD, is impossible to say given the the evidence
that's available in the public at this point in time. Do do you think the central tenant of your argument in in uh that paper uh
holds water today? Is it better? Is it worse? Do you think that these issues
have have exacerbated or or been reduced?
Well, the fact is, Peter, that when Steve and I wrote the article and then the book, uh, it was one of the first
times that everybody anybody exposed the lobby in a very public fashion in a way
that garnered a lot of attention. And it was easy for people to slander us at the
time because so many people didn't know much about the lobby. And one might
think therefore that what we were saying was overstated or preposterous, however
you want to put it. But now given what's happened, especially since October 7th,
uh it's hard to deny that the lobby has awesome power and it's hard to deny that
the lobby goes to enormous lengths uh to skew American foreign policy in a
pro-Israel way. Uh the basic argument we made in the book is that if you look at
the United States's relationship with Israel, it's a relationship that has no
parallel in modern history, or to put it differently, no parallel in recorded history. The United States supports
Israel unconditionally, especially with regard to the Palestinians. Almost no
matter what Israel does, we support Israel hook, line, and sinker. So the
question is why is this the case? Is it for strategic reasons? Not at all. There's no strategic case to be made for
our support for Israel, especially for unconditional support. Is it done for moral reasons? Heck no. Look at the fact
that we're supporting the genocide in Gaza. That's not in our moral interest.
So then the question is, why are we doing this if it's not strategically or morally smart to do? And the answer of
course is because of the power of the lobby. The lobby and this includes people like Alan Dersowitz work overtime
to suppress any discourse that's critical of Israel, critical of the
USIsraeli relationship or critical of the lobby. And for a long time they were
very successful at that. But those days are long gone now. And the basic argument that we made in the book uh
looks pretty obvious to most people at this point in time uh in ways that it
certainly did not when the article first came out and the book came out uh earlier uh in time.
Do do you think I mean the polls suggest that there is increasing antipathy from many Americans to this ongoing
relationship with Israel as you put it unconditional. Where do you think that leads?
Well, there's no question that uh Israel is in real trouble. And if you look at
how Prime Minister Netanyahu has been reacting, he's desperate to figure out a
way to change Israel's image uh in the West, especially in the United States.
But if anything, all the movements going in the other direction uh before October
7th, most of the criticism that was out in the open of Israel came from the
Democratic party. It came from the leftand side of the political spectrum. That's all changed. Now you're getting
all sorts of criticism from the right-hand side. uh people like Steve Bannon, ste people like uh Tucker
Carlson, Marjgerie Taylor Green, and even Charlie Kirk before he was killed
uh was clearly moving in that direction. So you have this problem that inside the
MAGA base of the Republican party uh there are substantial number of people
uh who have become profoundly critical of Israel and I would imagine that with the passage of time their numbers will
grow and the numbers of people on the left who are critical of Israel their numbers will grow as well. So this is a
colossal problem for Israel and its supporters here in the United States. And at the same time, I think there's no
doubt you're seeing a rising uh amount of overt anti-semitism.
You know, some would blame the Israeli government for the actions it's taken that's been fermenting that. But others say that this is a genuine issue that
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John Mearsheimer on the rise of antisemitism in America
I agree with that. Uh I I think the charge of anti-semitism is often times
used so loosely as to make the term almost meaningless. I think that when
people call me and Steve Walt anti-semites, this is a laughable argument. We're not anti-semmites. We're
both phosites of the first order. Uh we're critical of Israel, critical of
the lobby, and critical of the US-Israeli relationship. And by the way, many Jews are critical of Israeli
behavior. And they're critical of the lobby. And I would also note to you peers that almost all of the people who
defended us when the article and the book then came out were Jewish. Almost
all of them were Jewish. However, having said all that, there is no question that
there is evidence in the body politic of real anti-semitism, of hatred of Jews
and of arguments that say Jews are different than other people and Jews are evil and so forth and so on. And I do
believe the great danger is if events in Gaza continue, if events in the West
Bank continue, and the lobby continues to operate the way it's been operating
since October 7th, which is to say out in the open, engaging in smashmouth
politics, we could have a major crisis in terms of rising anti-semitism here in
the United States and even in Europe as well. And this is deeply worrisome for sure.
I'm about to speak to Alan Dersuis. Before I go to him, do you have any message for him?
No, not really. Uh I think he'll uh he'll know exactly what to say uh in
terms of what I've said here. Uh he uh has a rich history of smearing me and
Steve, and I'm sure he'll be as good as ever. Uh which is not very good in my opinion at that endeavor.
Did you feel that the smears damaged you?
Uh, that's a tricky question. I mean, we're two tenur professors at two of the
greatest universities in the world, and there was no way that his smears could get us removed from those positions. Uh,
at the same time, there's no doubt that it had an effect on our careers. I mean,
Steve was the academic dean of the Kennedy School at the time uh that the
article appeared. And anybody who knew Steve, and I think you could ask Larry Summers about this, who knew Steve well
because he was the Harvard president at the time, thought that Steve was a first order administrator. He was terrific.
And that he would have been at least the dean of the Kennedy School and probably would have been the provost or the
president of a major university. Uh but that never happened. I mean, not only is
he not only was he never dean of the Kennedy School, uh there's a program for security studies called the Belelfur
Center inside of the Kennedy School, and Steve amazingly has never been asked uh
to be the head of the Belelfford Center. So, in terms of Steve's professional
administrative career, uh this had devastating consequences. And I believe,
I don't know if he'd agree with me, that he would have liked to have been dean of the Kennedy School. He should have been dean of the Kennedy School. He would
have been a superb dean, but that was ruled out of bounds once he wrote the lobby article. I didn't have those kind
of ambitions at all. So, it had no effect on me. I was just interested in being an intellectual or an academic and
uh so uh it didn't have that effect. And there were just all sorts of other consequences as well. We got all sorts
of talks cancelled uh then and since then and uh all sorts of opportunities
to make money or to be invited to give talks or participate in big events uh
are not open to us because we're viewed in some circles by a handful of people as anti-semmites.
Professor B Sharma, fascinating stuff. Thank you very much indeed for joining me. Thank you for having me, Pierce. Well,
listening to that, as I said, is Jeffrey Epstein's uh former lawyer, the author of the new book, The Preventative State,
Alan Dershowitz responds to John Mearsheimer interview
Alan Duritz. Alan, welcome back to Uncensored. What's your reaction to uh what Professor M Sha said there?
Well, I'm glad we're having an academic civil discussion of this. I had
challenged uh both professors uh uh uh Walton Mirshimer to debate me at the
Kennedy School, to debate me at the Harvard Law School and they have declined. Um I wrote a 200page analysis
of their book, an academic analysis. It wasn't a smear. It was a very cogent
line by line uh dissection of their arguments and disproof. and they could
have easily tried to respond to it by writing a 100page or a 50page rebuttal
to my 200page rebuttal and uh but they didn't. Uh so smear is not the right
word. This was an academic dialogue, an academic discourse and I think it uh uh
there were multiple sides to it. People took different sides. It was very
seriously uh considered and I was honored to uh participate in that. I am
not a lobbyist for Israel. I'm not a member of the Mossad. I am an American,
a loyal American who strongly supports the American Israel relationship the way many Christian Americans do and many
Jewish Americans do. And I thought the book was uh misguided uh and I thought
it was ill- advised and I thought it was wrong on its facts. And so I did what professors do. I responded to it in the
marketplace of ideas. I never tried to shut him off in the marketplace. What I wanted to do was debate him and discuss
it with him and get both sides of the issue out there, but they categorically refused to have any debates or
discussions with me. Instead, they use the word smear to describe a multi-page
analysis. That's what an professors do and that's what they should do. So, thank you for having me on to allow me
to at least participate in this kind of a debate. Um, I'm not I'm I'm not sure
whether you asked him whether he'd be on to debate me one- on- one, but there is no such debate here. So, you're giving
me, thank you, an opportunity to respond to him. I I would welcome him responding
back and then me responding back. Maybe you can have us back and we have a real debate. But that's what academics do.
And to call one side of the argument a smear is to diminish it in its importance. And it also has the effect
of diminishing the original book in its importance. This was an important book and it deserved an important response. I
purported to do that. By the way, I sent it to hundreds of people. Jeffrey Epstein was just one of them. I wanted
to get the widest possible circulation. I sent it to every member of the Harvard Law School faculty. I sent it to all my
friends in the media and Epstein was one of the people I sent it to. I was his lawyer at the time and he responded as
many others did by saying, "I'll circulate it." and he circulated it and many others did and ultimately I put
much of it into book form and the debate continues to this day. I mean the I guess the uh the awkward
Alan Dershowitz addresses accusations of useing Jeffrey Epstein for lobbying purposes
part of this is that we've only just learned about this through more leaked emails from the Epstein files and they
haven't got them all yet. And what people are saying by way of criticism is that they think it's inappropriate for
you, notwithstanding the fact you were Epstein's attorney at the time, to use him to promote a clearly very pro-Israel
uh piece of they, as they would put it, lobbying.
Well, I'm proud of having done that. I I circulated it to everybody I knew who had access to the media, and I would
continue to do that. At the time, of course, Epstein hadn't been convicted of anything. Um, yes, there had been
suspicions and rumors and charges. I was his lawyer, and I sent it to, as I say, everybody who could help me circulate
it, and I'm I I'm proud of that, and I will continue to do that. That's what
academics do. Today, you'd put it on Substack or you'd put it on Twitter or
X. Uh, but that was before that existed. And so what I did is I circulated it to
everybody that I knew uh to please get the story out there as much as possible
as you know respond to it. That's what academics do. Sure. And but but one what the point I
would make is that you're very aware there have been these ongoing rumors about Epstein and whether he had a
bigger relationship with the Israeli government or indeed andor the Mossad through this period. And you know,
you're you're a smart guy. You'll know that this kind of exchange would lend uh to those who who have read those rumors,
they would think this is a little bit more credible now because here he is clearly taking an active role in wanting
to disseminate information which is very supportive of the Israel position at the
time. Yeah. But this was done at a time when nobody was making that allegation. I
have direct firsthand information. Um, before I was Epstein's lawyer back in the 1990s, I was writing a book called
The Genesis of Justice about the Bible. And I was in Israel on a sbatical. And
Epstein called me. He was in Paris. He said, "I've never been to Israel. Can you come to Israel and arrange a lunch
with me with four or five of Israel's smartest people?" So, I did. I arranged a lunch with the president of the Israel
Supreme Court, the dean of one of the law schools. We had a lunch. Then we took a walk to the shook and uh he saw
an IDF shirt, a tan IDF shirt, and he said, "Oh boy, I'd love to have that." And so I bought it for him for I think
$6 or $7 and he put it on and took a picture with it. And then people began
to circulate the rumor that he must be on the Mossad because he was wearing a $6 t-shirt of the Israel Defense Forces.
But we have to get the chronology straight. When I wrote that email to Epstein, and by the way, I want all
emails out. have never tried to suppress a single email. I'm proud of all my emails. I want them all out there, you
know. I don't know what they all say. I don't remember. But having an exchange with somebody who I knew and somebody
who was pro-Israel uh doesn't prove either that I did anything wrong or that
he had a connection with the Mossad.

Now, I did represent the Mossad once as a lawyer when um three or four Mossad
agents were arrested in Cyprus. the head of the Mossad at the time um asked me if
I would help represent these people and I did and I helped them get out and I have a beautiful letter from the former
head of the Mossad saying I'm hoping for a day when my job is not uh any longer
necessary and maybe I can do your job being a professor. Uh so I have you know
pretty good uh knowledge of of the Mossad and I put the issue directly to
the current head of the Mossad and the former head of the Mossad. There's nobody in any position of
authority uh who who reasonably suspects that they would have ever uh gotten
Jeffrey Epstein on board to be a Mossad.

You say you say you're proud of every
email that you've uh ever written. You but you also say you can't you can't remember what they contain. Are you not
but are you not a little bit apprehensive about what may come out in these in these leaks?
No, I did nothing wrong. I did nothing wrong ever in my life sexually. Uh I
didn't have any I didn't know or have any any contact with the woman who
accused me. So from day one, I said, "Send it all out." On the first day I was accused, I had an op-ed in the Wall
Street Journal. I don't think anybody's ever had an oped like this in history, urging the FBI to investigate me and
saying I would wave all of my lawyer client privileges, all of my privacy privileges because I knew I did nothing
wrong. Now, did I tell a bad joke sometime in an email? Who knows? Who remembers 25 years ago? But, uh, I live
a very open and and and and moral life. I wasn't really talking about you
actually. I might be surprised that I said certain things, but no, I was I was actually going to ask you
Alan Dershowitz: “I’m sure there are more emails linking Israel to Epstein”
specific, not about you actually, but whether there could be more emails pertaining to Jeffrey Epstein's
relationship with Israel, with the Israeli government, or otherwise.
I'm sure there are. I know that after much of this happened, he began to develop an economic relationship with
Ahud Barack. Um I actually was at his house one day when I was his lawyer uh and giving him legal advice and on the
blackboard in his dining room was a map of a peace plan. And I asked him what it
was and he said, "Oh, that was drawn by Aud Barack with his own hand." And he didn't erase it because it was, you
know, Ahad Barack's peace plan. So yeah, I'm sure there'll be emails uh relating to Israel and I'm sure there'll be
emails relating to, you know, a wide variety of subjects. I mean, I had emails with him relating to Einstein. I
I I gave him a book once for uh one of his birthdays or something about uh
notes that were not published about Einstein. He was before he was ever accused of doing anything wrong, he
claimed to be a serious intellectual and and so we had intellectual exchanges
with some of the most prominent professors at Harvard. When he had these seminars, uh he would have them once
every month or every other month. There would be people at these seminars who I'd been on the faculty for example uh
George Church I think his name is who decoded the genome. I had been on the same faculty with him for 25 years. I
never met him, but Epstein brought us together. So, you know, there are a lot of academic connections and the most
natural thing in the world would be when I I think on on in several of my books, by the way, before Epstein ever got
charged, I actually acknowledged him in the acknowledgements for reading the text and giving me feedback. So it would
be the most natural thing in the world for me to send him my article which was going to be part perhaps of a book
ultimately uh and ask him for not only his feedback but ask him to circulate it as widely as possible. Proud that I did
it, happy that I did it. I would do it again not knowing what I know now about Epstein, I wouldn't have included him.
But I'm in the I'm I'm in the process of writing my 60th book. I've just sent it to the publisher today. My 60th book.
Every one of those books I send around to my friends, my associates, my former clients, my clients. I ask them for
input and the input is very valuable and I also when the right time comes ask them to circulate it to as many people
as possible. That's the way word gets around. You know that's the marketplace of ideas and I participated in the
marketplace of ideas with Walton Mirshima. Walton Mirshime refused to participate in the marketplace. They
wouldn't respond on the merits. they wouldn't get involved in a debate. Uh I urge you school out to the University of
I offered to fly to the University of Chicago. Well, I will try and I will try and I did try and bring you together for this.
Professor M. Shimmer opted not to do a a debate with the two of you together. I would I'm going to try and persuade him
to do it. I think it'd be fascinating. Um I've got to leave it there. Alan Doitch, thank you very much.
Well, thanks for doing it and let's have a debate. Yeah, I agree. Thank you very much.
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Max Blumenthal HUMILIATES Alan Dershowitz
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[Music] We're gonna have to drop the beat during this segment. Maybe we'll drop two beats
tonight. Max Blumenthal finally was invited on the Pierce Morgan
show. I can't believe they did it, but they did. He was there. And boy, did
he let them have it. He schooled them. the pro-Israel influencer, prop paid
Israel influencer he schooled. But most importantly, he schooled Allan
Derserowitz. That's right. Let's go ahead and get into it. Ladies and gents, this was
epic. If there's one Pierce Morgan episode you should watch, it's this one. We're going to start right about here.
Well, former State Department press secretary Matthew Miller said after defending Netanyahu day after day that
Netanyahu shattered every ceasefire agreement, broke every possible deal in order to survive and hold his narrow
coalition together. A coalition that features people like Gila Gaml, the innovation minister, who said the real
agenda in Gaza is to make Gaza uninhabitable until the population leaves. And we'll do the same in the
West Bank. uh Bezel Smotrich the finance minister has said that that that this is
a business deal that Gaza is a business deal and a real estate bonanza and we need to divide it. The first stage was
demolition and building in Gaza and basically taking it over for Jewish settlers is cheaper. So that's the real
agenda. We're witnessing a kind of final solution that Netanyahu affirmed in May
2025 when he said we will destroy the homes of the people in Gaza to make them leave. Today, Israel destroyed the
largest residential tower in Gaza City. A residential tower because I've reported in Gaza that I've actually
seen. And the defense minister, Israel Katz, celebrated this. They're celebrating the destruction of entire
neighborhoods. Which is why while Israel is waging a sevenfront war which now extends into US allies to kill the
negotiating team because it was getting in the way of this final solution, they're actually extending into an
eighth front which is the United States where Netanyahu has said that his coterie of billionaires including Larry Ellison
must buy Tik Tok and buy all these media assets to prevent the PR propaganda
collapse that Israel is facing. And we have a panelist here who is in that meeting who appropriately compared
Netanyahu and his Likood party to Donald Trump's GOP essentially because the
Likood party controls Donald Trump through vehicles like Israeli asset Miriam add.
Okay Katie and I'm going to come to you because I wasn't where's the lie.
Now this woman up here this is Katie. She's a paid pro-Israel influencer. She
was the woman that was in that room. Uh the story I covered recently, the influencers meeting with Benjamin
Netanyahu, asking how to get the evangelical Christians back on board for Netanyahu. Now, watch this. Uh guys,
she's going to try to go with, you know, when all else fails, let's just try to say, "Oh, you're paid by cutter. You
were paid by Iran." And it's it's just it's funny because she's paid by Israel.
Like like that's the part that's hilarious to me. But she's going to try to go with that because she can't debunk
what Max is saying. There's no lie there. We've all seen the footage. We've seen what's been
happening. We see what's been going on. That's why I told you Israel lost control of the narrative. That's why
they're trying to get it. Let's flood the social media. Let's do all of this.
They are on defense at this point in time.
Israel with the narrative. They're on defense. So, let's listen to her.
Come to you before I went back to Al. So, I will come to you. But just on that point about that meeting, Deborah Lee,
you were in the Netanyahu influencer meeting. Do you recognize the characterization that Max just put up
for that? I think everything that Max is saying is just honestly hysterical because it is
so two-sided. Max, you were directly funded by Iran, Russia, and Qatar, the organization that you worked for. That's
a huge lie from the Iranian TV that proven from your own documents. It is
proven that that is you have received money. I've never received a dollar from Israel or the Israeli government where
your company is directly. This is notible. It has been proven documents
in violating US sanctions. Yes. You claim that your organization owns runs offers donating money, but that is not
true. And that is absolutely not true because it's been proven. And what said the intro of this BB was saying that he
needs to buy Tik Tok and that make it an Israeli weapon. I was in that meeting. I posted the video. The video that you
played was my video. If you watch the video for yourself, he never said that. I was asking BB about what do we do in
the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination and the rise of the woke right with people like Candace Owens and Tucker
Carlson creating chaos online. even with things like Tyler Robinson saying that he wasn't the assassin when he's
confessed to it, trying to get a mistrial for him and not get justice for Charlie Kirk. So, I was asking BB
because I wrote a paper when I was in college, as Max mentioned, about the similarities between the GOP party and
the identities and the values of the Republican party under Trump and how the Likood party and Israel under Benjamin
Netanyahu has similar ideologies and values and they're cut from the same ideological cloth. I didn't say that the
Likood party controls the GOP. I literally wrote that they just have similar ideological values which I hold
as a conservative Jew. So as far as buying Tik Tok, we saw on that video every single person here and nearly
every single commentator agrees. I've never seen Keep trying my
Yeah. Um also and and and buying her. Uh one second with uh
had to freeze that there. Uh yeah. And buying her, right? So, so here's the the funny part about all this. Um, it's just
hilarious that she would say that someone is funded by another country because she's funded by another country.
And that is a smear that came from Israel. Israel smeared the gray zone by
saying, "Oh, they're funded by Qatar. They're funded by, you know, by the way, Qatar is an ally of the United States."
There's that. That don't work. Then they say, "Oh, they're funded by Iran. They're funded by Russia." None of those
countries are Israel. None of those countries are committing a genocide.
So even if that were true, this is what people need to pay attention to. That's not even a good comparison.
Not even a good one. But Max comes back in
because he's not willing to let this go. He is going to tell her about herself 2020. I'm not lying. You're a liar.
Anyway, I wasn't done talking. Every single person here, every single political commentator and the Trump
administration will acknowledge that Tik Tok is a grave threat to the United States if it was controlled by China.
All of us have acknowledged how China can influence the United States through Tik Tok, through videos, through making us dumber, through putting out
propaganda, whatever it is. Same with X. Why do you think about X? because we recognize the free speech issues on
there under it every single time. Let's hear from modern time. Let's hear
time out. Let's hear from Katie. I just don't understand. So this woman here, you know, she got
her talking points. These people are paid propagandists. If you are paid by another country to do said agenda, you
really don't have the the nerve. You you really have the audacity to call out someone one else for being paid, right?
Which he's not. But you have the audacity to make that claim towards someone else. Honey, you paid.
You paid. You sat right there in a room with a freaking war criminal who's killed all these children because you were willing to do anything for money.
Honey, that's the sad part. all the influencers that are willing to sell their soul
to sell out the youth to sell out children to turn a blind eye to genocide just to get a paycheck and that includes
Officer Tatum and his dumb ass as well. You can add him to that list, too.
Who stands there? What black man stands there and says, "You know, bra minister,
uh, I I took a trip to Israel and my church group and, um, you know, they was
really nice to us and, um, there we were only spit on once."
I was seriously watching that video thinking to myself, "Are you going to ask if you can shine his shoes next?"
They should all be ashamed, but they're not. They want money. That's it. Money and fame and all this stuff that comes
with it. That's what it all comes back to.
You even got black influencers that are willing to sell out for a check.
That's the saddest part. The white influencers, you know, I get on all of them, but the white influencers who are
doing it, I'm just kind of like, h yeah, yeah. You don't give a damn about the Palestinian people. Come on. You're
going to try to attach yourself to what's the closest to whiteness if if you can.
But for the black ones, those the ones that really irk my nerve because you know better.
You know a lot better. Now that's her crazy self.
like to sit in there in a room with a war criminal and ask him what can we do
to convince make sure the evangelicals stay on board to support Israel from all
of this from a book. Hold on. We coming to Dersowitz. Hold on, Dur. We coming.
All this from a book that you don't know is real or not.
Everyone needs to put their biases aside for just a second. I don't care if you're religious or not. I grew up in
the church, but I still say this, religion is a belief and they really got people out here
saying we got to let them kill these Palestinian kids so you know that's the
holy land for them and when the rapture comes and all this stuff. All of this
based on a belief. You don't know if it's real. You don't know if that's the real Bible.
All you know is what you were told. How many times have we been lied to?
How many times? And then for those of us who have read the Bible, even the Israel, the modern day Israel of today
is not the Israel that is mentioned in the Bible. And I would continue to say that until more Christians, wake up.
Wake up. How many times have we been told something was one thing and it turned out to be not that case?
When I was a kid, they said Pluto was a planet. Later on, they say Pluto no planet.
Now they trying to say it's a planet again. You see where I'm coming from here?
I'm not here to tell you. You believe what you want to believe. If you want to practice a certain religion, you practice a certain religion. All I'm
asking you to do is to think outside the box and do your own research
and acknowledge that religion is a belief. It is not law. Not in this
country. All of this from a book and I'mma I'mma
look into this one day. I'mma see where all this came from. I'mma see where all of this came from. Where it all come
from. Islam is the biggest religion in the world
and you have Christian organizations that go around the world to spread the gospel, to spread Christianity. But what
are they also asking you to do? They're asking you to support the
greater Israel. But I didn't tell you this part till you
get deep into it. And then this is another part as well. The Israelis see the Christians as a means to to an end.
They don't like you either. Okay.
It's really sad. It's so much control. The masses have been controlled. All I'm
asking you to do is do your own research. That's it.
Now, let's get to Dur say that Netanyahu is going to be able to drag the US back into another war
with Iran just as he did before knowing that he couldn't go in and finish a war that he started without the Trump
administration going along and basically letting him escape. And most Americans
don't want this personally lobbied against this started.
American soldiers will fight and die for a crazy little apartheid state. But you have this dynamic where Miriam added
hundreds of millions of dollars to Donald Trump paying for his campaign. This is an Israeli asset. And now, and
this goes to the tr to the Tony Blair question that Pierce asked, Larry Ellison has contributed something like
$300 million to the Tony Blair Institute, and they're going to use that to collect the data of people in Gaza
who will be put in, as the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation said in its initial documents, biometric
concentration camps after they're ethnically cleansed from the north. And all of these tech companies, I don't
know, Katie, if Elon will be involved in this, but they will come in and reap massive contracts from this holocaust.
And Tony Blair will be shephering in those contracts as he did in the occupied West Bank as a so-called peace
negotiator. This is Tony Blair's real role. And what is Larry Ellison doing in the United States? He's buying Paramount
to do a propaganda film to do propaganda films for Israel. His son is buying CBS.
and they'll put Barry Weiss as editor-inchief. This is the takeover that Netanyahu outlined in the meeting
with Deborah Leah and these other influencers that they're seeking to buy and control because they've lost the
propaganda war. So, it is an eightfront war and Donald Trump is under as Tucker
Carlson sources said Netanyahu's thumb. This is the worst foreign meddling that
we have ever witnessed. I agree with Allan that Russia Gate was a hoax. This is the real foreign meddling scandal.
It's Israel gate. All right, Alan. Uh, your response to that? Before he responds, I think we got to
drop the beat. We got to drop the beat. Russia Gate was such a distraction. You
really should have been paying attention to Israel.
Dance with me. Dance with me.
Drop the beat in the street.
[Music] I'm telling you, there's so many distractions. You look back now at
Russia Gate and you have to laugh. You have to just laugh. And to the Tony Blair uh report,
well, I like the idea of Tony Blair. He's not perfect, but uh he has a lot of
credibility. He did a great job in Northern Ireland and I think he may be the least worst solution, but I cannot
avoid. Tony Blair was a war criminal. For those of us who remember the Iraq war, for those of you not aware, Tony Blair was a
war criminal. He ignored human right abuses in Iraq.
But Allan Dersowitz thinks that, oh, I think he's a good person. He do everything right, but he's okay. And of
course the guy who represented Jeffrey Epstein who sexually drafted all them damn women. Of course he'd have no
problem with a war criminal like Tony Blair. Look at all the company that Alan Dersuit wants to keep.
Sex traffickers, war criminals.
Of course he would have no problem with Tony Blair. He has more of an issue of people calling out a genocide than he
does with war criminals and Jeffrey Epstein abusing women on that island
and that's a fact commenting about Max. I mean basically
what he has said about you know Jews controlling this sounds like it could
part of the protocols of the elders. He talks about Ellison. He took Ellison.
He's a Jew. He's No, I said So, we see the lie, right? Here come the
lies. The Zionist lies. Did you hear Max Blumenthal say that? That was not what
he said. But this is what they do. Oh, me the victim. Oh my god. He's making
criticisms here. That was not the words that came out of Max Blumenthal's uh mouth. Also, Max Blumenthal is Jewish.
This is what see you exposed. And if I get flustered, it's because I'm
so sick of the lies. I'm so sick of the dishonesty. I'm so sick of the, "Oh, woe
is me." Ain't no woe is you. You not oppressed. You ain't occupied.
You're not living in an open air prison. From what I understand, Alan Dersawitz, you seem to be doing just well.
I told you guys before to pay attention about the white minority
because somehow, and especially over the years, I got to tell you, as someone who
is a black American, my people didn't get any reparations. My people didn't get 40 acres in a mule.
My people don't have their own their own state that is for them.
My people still have to deal with injustice in the criminal justice system which Allan Dersuitz is a part of and
gets these people off.
But woe is me for Alan Dersuitzer
who's an American. Yeah. I I'm not Israel first. I'm an American first. I'm an
You dedicated your career to defend believes when you're not defending Jeffrey Epste. You're defending dedicated my career. I dedicated my
career to defending Bill Clint to defending wife, but also to defend to defending
the ultimate wife. If you want to talk about who I defend, so in other words, he defend defends
corrupt people. Bill Clinton is corrupt. Bill Clinton
was also on that Epstein island. Ted Kennedy killed a woman and got away with it.
Corrupt. This isn't even a denial. It's not like Ted Kenny did not We didn't talked about
this before on the show. I told you. He represents corrupt people. That's
what he does. And then he gets mad when you call him out for representing corruption.
You chose to represent those people. Ain't nobody make you do that. And he did it for the money.
Those are high-profile cases. So Allan Dersowitz likes to represent
corrupt people. Then talk about John Adams who defended
the killers of people and the at the beginning of the American Revolution. Let's get to the merits of this thing.
The idea is that American advis independent country. Donald Trump is an
independent that I what did you say you you were according to Jeffrey that
have been according to new emails that were reported by Bloomberg on the 26th of this month you advised Jeffrey Epstein
and wrote Jeff you advised I was his lawyer Jeffrey Epstein is a good person who does
I was his lawyer I was his lawyer after he was indicted I was
so did you write his lawyer Jeffrey Epstein is a good person who does any good things because you say you don't
remember doing that. That just came out in an email and you I was his lawyer.
I was his lawyer. It reminds me of Better Carl Saul. You guys ever watch Better Carl Saul?
Like for the theme it says I'm a lawyer. Remember that tuned his victims calling the girls
self-described prostitutes. So when you weren't defending Jeffrey Epstein, you're defending an aparttheid
state. As a criminal, I am not offending the partid state. Israel is the most
integrated, least aparttheid state of any country in the Middle East. And that's why it's Jewish and Saudi Arabia
population. Let me So because there are Ethiopians that
live in Israel, he says there's no apartheid, but there is apartheid where
Palestinians have to have people have different passports and depending on what your passport says tells you where
you can go. We even watched, even CNN did a whole special showing people what
it's like to travel through the West Bank and how even the journalists who were there were stopped by armed gunmen,
but he tells you there's no apartheid. Many have documented uh of course uh Max Blumenthal has been there. Tanahi Coats
wrote about this in his book, The Message. Many have documented that the apartheid system in Israel is worse than
the part was in South Africa. But they continue to tell you there's no apartheid because they got a couple of
Ethiopian people sprinkled around in there. But then they don't tell you that
Israel sterilized Ethiopian women against their will because they didn't want them to have more babies.
Hello. They don't want to tell you that part. Hell, the United States is a melting
pot. But even under Jim Crow, it was lawfully
segregated. We had our own form of apartheid here in the United States. My parents went through it.
So just because you have people there of a different race doesn't mean they're not treated differently.
That's the part he's big mad in this one. Look at his face.
Finish, please. Look. Look. If Max is going to interrupt this whole time, I'm going to jump into Max.
Yeah. I think it's helpful if we don't all don't all talk. There's no country in the world that is less apartheite
than Israel. It has black ministers. It has Arab justices of the Supreme Court.
Every middle stop. See, here comes the black card. Let me tell you something. They have
Ethiopian ministers, the same Ethiopians that I showed you
multiple videos about two, three years ago. I showed you these videos that the Israelis were yelling at saying, "Get
out of here. those same Ethiopians, they don't want
them there either. They're there, but how are they treated? And then what he
also doesn't tell you is that those Ethiopians also end up joining the IDF
and they're just happy that they're not treated as badly as the Palestinians, but they're still treated badly. When
Chris Moss was on the show, he told you and me of course that when he was
detained, when he walked into that prison, everyone that was in that prison other than himself were Ethiopian or
Filipinos. So just because you sprinkled in
African people in Israel, that doesn't mean they're treated the same.
And a lot of them will hate on the Palestinians just because they don't want to be treated as badly as them.
How's that for you? That's supremacy in its finest. When
people who are a minority or of a darker complexion, they will go along with the
supremacist just so that they're not at the same level as the other group.
It's hilarious. I I really couldn't believe he said that. I couldn't believe he said it. It reminds the people that like, "Oh, no, no, no. They're not
racist. Look, there there's a there's a black family that lives on that street. They're not racist. They have a black
friend. They're not racist. They voted for Obama twice. Are we in Get Out, Dersuit?
I don't think anyone that watches this show is in the sunken place.
I'm actually surprised he didn't say that one. The next one. Oh, they voted for Obama twice. I would have voted for
him twice. East country prohibits Jews from living there, buying property. In
Israel, Arabs are absolutely equal. Israel is not guilty of apartheid. It's not guilty of genocide. Max is
essentially a Holocaust denier because when he talks about things like the final solution,
genocide, what he's saying, what he's saying is that these things
didn't happen in Nazi Germany. The idea of Jewish children being walked into the gas did happen in Nazi Germany and
they're happening again. That isn't happening. That isn't happening in the ethnosre you support is
carrying out. Let me finish. Please stop interrupting me. Stop interrupting me. You called me a holocaust
denier. Self-defense. You are When you call self-defense
holocaust trying to kill, trying to kill
terrorists with genocide, you are a Holocaust minimizer and a Holocaust
denier. So, let's be very clear about that. What is Max Blumenthal till this day has never
denied the Holocaust ever. I've never heard him deny that. So now
we're moving the goalpost, right? Because now they're moving the goalpost of of what it really means to to deny
the Holocaust. So So now if you're accusing Israel of genocide, now you're also a denier of
the Holocaust. You see how they just say things to make it mean what they want it to mean at
that point in time. This is why nobody takes you. This is why and part of the reason why the
sympathy and the pity just isn't a lot of people have woken up. A lot of people have woken up and and I said this before
I told you guys for all the people particularly in this country that had an issue with DEI had an issue with
discussion about race and ethnicity and all this kind of stuff. Why is it that some of those same people have no
problem pushing, promoting, and advocating for safe spaces for said
group in this country? Why is that?
Isn't that DEI just for a different group?
Because the whole Israel project is just colonialism. It is the final phase of colonialism.
And once they continue, if they succeed at that greater Israel project, Netanyahu said so himself, then we will
go on to liberate Africa. So Africa, they looking at you too. They going to be coming your way too, just like all
the supremacists before them. That's what this is really about.
So now all of a sudden, we just moving the goalpost and we changing definitions
because we're not happy with the conversation. I don't think that Alan Dersuitz was ready to go against Max Blumenthal. I don't I really don't think
he does. He was I think there's a reason why it has taken Pierce Morgan this long to bring Max Blumenthal on the show. I
think there was also a reason why uh RFK Jr. backed out of having that
conversation with Max Blumenthal because unlike Max, you can't look at him and say, "Oh my gosh, have you
you've never been remember that guy and Joe Rogan? You've never been." You can't
say that to him. He's written books about it before October 7th.
I don't think he was ready for this. How does that make sense? United States. No, I I got to say, Alan, I think Alan,
I think that is How does that make any sense? I don't think that's that is anything that Max has said. So, I think that's it's it's a wrong what he said.
Can I respond in 5 seconds? The Holocaust by Benjamin Netanyahu is a Holocaust minimizer. Benjamin Netany,
your friend, blamed the Holocaust on Palestinians. Benjamin Netany literally
blamed the Holocaust of Jews in Europe. Let's not all talk over each other.
Don't all talk over each other. You have to talk about who I should. Okay, let's not talk over each other. The idea that you let me bring in the other panelist.
There are five people on the panel. Yeah, Dersuits, not a good look for you.
It appears that you didn't do too well under pressure.
We got to drop a different beat. Let's see how you do under pressure. Let's see how you do under pressure.
Give them a name to remember. Hey, let's see how you do under
pressure. Let's see how you do under pressure. A moment can live on forever.
A moment can live on forever. Give him a name to remember.
didn't do too well under pressure. I still remember that time when Katie Halper told him, she said, "You were friends with Jeffrey Epstein."
Kudos to Max. Good job, you guys. I'm telling you, watch the whole thing.
But to me, it was just
laughable. Laughable. I don't think he was ready for this. I don't think he was. You know, he wasn't ready when he
tried to say that Max was denying the Holocaust.
You know, he wasn't ready. Just throwing things out there.
Oh, man. It's that was therapeutic. Like, watching that, it was therapeutic the first time I saw it. But people like
Alan Dersowitz and paid pro-Israel chick up there to the left uh the right uh
corner of the screen, they're just they're pushing propaganda. That's it.
Just pushing pushing propaganda. And Alan Dersuits, if you seem to have a problem with people bringing up these
people that you represented or your relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, then maybe you shouldn't have represented
those people. Just is what it is, man. But
this I am the victim because you were calling out these things. I didn't see
anything or hear anything there that Max said that was false.
We have just seen repeated lies from Israel and Israel supporters for years.
And for the first time, at least in my life, there is quite a bit of resentment
towards Israel, including on the right.
And I don't think they they don't know what to do. They don't know how to handle this cuz the worst thing that happens is
losing, like Max said, that information war. That's the worst when that happens.
Then you on defense, you know?
The world will never look at Israel the same. And the longer people like Alan Dersuitz continue to support Israel,
the worse it just gets. I mean, at this point, I don't understand how anyone can support Israel at this point. Even some
of the Zionists that I saw on social media that were defending Israel after October 7th, even they're not defending
Israel anymore. What does that tell you?
So to Alan Dersowitz, you need to address
the racist in this state of Israel that you love so much, that racist, genocidal
state. And for black people, don't go don't take your ass to Israel. I don't
care what you're offered. I don't care if it's a free trip. Don't you don't you take yourself there.
They're just using you for a prop. And that goes out to the Congressional Black Caucus as well. You're just used as a
prop. They don't care about your black ass. You need to understand that.
But that was so therapeutic. So therapeutic.
Alan Derswood showed his whole ass.
He showed his whole
Did we Look at the look on his face.
He looks constipated.
I'm sorry. I had to end with a We had to end with a laugh. We had to end with a
laugh. But uh yeah, that was therapeutic.
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Top Democrat Drops DEVASTATING News on Trump’s Alleged WAR CRIMES
The Contrarian
Dec 8, 2025 #Trump #WarPowers #ExecutiveAbuse

This Top House Democrat releases a BOMBSHELL on Trump. Watch to find out more.

In this episode, Jen Rubin sits down with Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA), the ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, to expose the disturbing truth behind Donald Trump’s secret military strikes on alleged drug boats in the Caribbean.

Smith reveals how Trump authorized a “kill them all” mission before any written legal justification existed, including a second strike that killed unarmed survivors clinging to wreckage 43 minutes after the initial attack. The discussion breaks down how cocaine was unlawfully treated as a “weapon,” why Congress was cut out of oversight, and how this mission may be laying the groundwork for regime-change war in Venezuela and unchecked presidential kill powers.

From violations of international law to the terrifying implications for due process domestically, this episode lays out why Trump’s actions represent one of the most dangerous expansions of executive power in modern history.



Transcript

Hi, this is Jen Rubin, editor and chief
of the Conturion. I am delighted to have
with us Representative Adam Smith, who
is the ranking member of the House Armed
Services Committee. Welcome,
Congressman. It's a pleasure to have
you.
Well, thanks for having me back. Good to
see you. you have gotten some briefings
on the so-called second strike um on a
from what we understand an unarmed boat
in the Caribbean on September 2nd but
also perhaps something on the overall
mission. Tell us first of all what you
know about what happened on September
2nd.
Sure. There there are multiple layers to
this. Um and I think it is good to start
where you started and sort of build out
from that to understand the the problems
with this policy and then also the the
even more problematic motivations behind
it. But starting with the strike, so
September 2nd um and running through the
timeline, the Trump administration sort
of decided to take this approach at the
end of July. Um and they worked with the
Department of Defense and White House to
figure it out. And then on August 5th,
they issued what's called an execute
order. And that's where the White House
basically tasks DoD with doing
something. Um, and that was the
something in this question was to find
drugs um, and blow them up in
international waters in Latin America,
starting in the Caribbean, moving into
the other side on the Pacific. So, the
first strike um, was September 2nd was
the one that we've seen. And it's
important to note that at that point the
legal justification for these strikes
had not been written. Um that didn't get
written until September 5th. So 3 days
after the first strikes and then as I
was told by Admiral Bradley it wasn't
actually transmitted to them until
sometime in November. Now they had
conversations about the legalities
around it. I don't want to imply that
they didn't but the clear legal
framework was not given. So on September
2nd they took the first strike. Um 11
people were on this boat. Um I am
reasonably satisfied that the
intelligence was correct. Um and that
these 11 had cocaine in that boat and
they were part of a cartel that was
trying to transship that cocaine
somewhere. Crucially, we don't know
where. By the way, um it was going to
some transit point. There's very little
evidence that it was ever going to get
to the United States. Um, so they hit it
the first time and then as the video
showed some few minutes after the smoke
cleared, you could see that there were
two survivors
and that played out for 43 minutes
before the second strike and the two
survivors were on top. First of all, the
boat was capsized. Um, and it appeared
that the boat had broken in in I don't
know about half, but parts of it had
broken off cuz they were clinging to the
bow, the cap-sized bow of the boat,
which probably wasn't any bigger than
your average kitchen table. Um, very
small piece of the boat that was
sticking outside of the water. Um, they
took their shirts off at some point.
They had no communication devices and
they were standing on top of the boat
when 43 minutes later the second strike
occurs, you know, sinking the rest of
the boat and killing them. Um, and the
legal justification for that is very
very questionable. And I I can walk
through that if you want.
Let me ask a few very specific
questions. First of all, first of all,
have you seen the execute order?
Uh, no. You see, that's another thing
because one of those themes that I want
to get to, the Trump administration
doesn't believe that the law or rules
apply to them. We've had many, many
arguments. If you've worked in public
policy in any capacity, you have
arguments with the executive branch
about what they're doing, whether or not
it's legal. That always happens. This
administration is unique in that they
don't think the law applies to them.
They're not arguing, oh, you're
misinterpreting the law. It should allow
me to do this. They just go. One of the
things in the law is that all of these
execute orders are supposed to be
transmitted to the committees of
jurisdiction, House Armed Services,
Senate Services within 30 days.
They have not transmitted a single
execute order to us since Trump became
president. And this one has not been
transmitted either despite repeated
requests. So, no, I have not seen it. We
do not have it. That is a violation of
the law. And when you say that there
wasn't a legal opinion rendered, at
least in writing until much later, do
you have evidence that before or during
that September 2nd strike that there was
a lawyer involved at all?
I am told that there was, but we don't
have evidence in the sense that one
thing that came out, they didn't record
any of this. We have no recordings of
the conversations going on between the
various people involved in this. Now,
Admiral Bradley assured us and I take
him at his word that throughout this
process, they were speaking to the the
lawyers, the judge advocate generals who
were assigned this case. They were
consulting, working through, having
conversations about, you know, are they
defenseless? Are they shipwrecked? So, I
am told yes, other than the the word of
Admiral Bradley, I don't have any
independent confirmation of that.
Now seeing what you see and Adam Bradley
looking at this does he say with a
straight face that this was acceptable?
I mean, how does he recognize
the understanding in international law?
Um, so clear and then looking at that,
how does he, as an experienced admiral
who's been in this role for a while, has
conducted innumerable special
operations. How does he look at that and
say that's okay?
I can answer that. And yes, Admiral
Bradley has he was the JC commander for
a while. um he has ordered as he said
hundreds probably more than a thousand
of these strikes in different parts of
the world. Now first thing is they were
not at the point that they were struck
trying to flip the boat back over. Um so
let's just dismiss that. Um also they
had no communications devices. We have
no evidence that they attempted to
communicate. They weren't in a position
to communicate with anyone. So, you
can't argue, and Admiral Bradley didn't
argue, that they were trying to flip the
boat over and continue on uh in that
regard. So, what you've heard from
Senator Cotton and some others is simply
false. Um that is not an accurate
depiction of what was going on in the
boat. Now, um bear with me as I make
this argument for you. So, and this ties
back into the larger mission. So, the
mission was to kill all 11 people on the
boat and destroy the cocaine. Minor
little subpoint, by the way. There's all
this, you know, attacking the Washington
Post for misreporting that he gave a
kill everyone order. Well, that depends
on how you look at it. Um, there were 11
people on the boat. And the order was
kill them all. It was not a capture or
detain. So, it is not inaccurate for
whoever in the Pentagon leaked to the
Washington Post, he said kill everyone.
That's not inaccurate. Now, it's a
little unfair in the sense that when you
say that, it implies that, okay, you've
got five people in an apartment building
with a hundred others. Just blow the
whole thing up. I don't care. The 11
people who were contained in that killed
them all were deemed to be legitimate
targets as affiliates of one of these
narot terrorist groups. Also, the order
was not no survivors. It didn't say no
matter the situation, kill them all. So,
but the order was to kill all 11 people
on the boat. So you got two left uh
surviving. The argument starts with the
fact that the belief that the cocaine on
that boat could have somehow survived
that initial strike and was conceivably
in the bow of the boat beneath you know
what what we can see the part under the
water. Now I find that fantastical in
the first place because the boat you see
the first strike whole thing's on fire.
It breaks in half. It goes down. Is it
possible that some drugs were contained
under? I suppose it's possible, but it's
highly unlikely. But even worse than
that, the notion is that cocaine still
could have gotten to the United States.
And they're treating that cocaine like
it's a weapon. Basically, they're
treating that image of those two people
on that boat like a situation where, I
don't know, you see a car bomb headed
towards an embassy or something. Struck.
It seems like it's incapacitated, but is
it incapacitated? We don't know. There's
still a couple people there. Maybe they
can complete the mission. Maybe they can
get that bomb to the building and blow
it up. And that too is kind of absurd.
All right. Even if there is some cocaine
in that boat, they are in the middle of
the Mediterranean Sea with no power of
locomotion, no communication devices.
They are drifting with the current. A
fact, by the way, that Admiral Bradley
admitted. okay, that they weren't, but
his argument was the boat could have
conceivably drifted somewhere where some
other, you know, people associated with
this drug cartel could have met up with
them and continued the mission. That is
the argument. All right? Treating the
cocaine like it is a full-scale weapon.
And when you asked Aba Bradley, do you
really believe that or what percentage
or what likelihood would that have
happened? Does he acknowledge that this
is, to put it mildly, an attenuated or
far-fetched
potential?
There were a couple of moments in in in
the conversation that stand out on that
when uh Senator Wicker was quizzing
Admiral Bradley about the definition of
shipwreck, which by the way is a thing
that's in the law of war. You know, you
not supposed to be able to kill
survivors of a quote shipwreck. Well,
what's a shipwreck? you know, and they
were talking about what it looks like,
what it doesn't look like, and the other
thing. And I interrupted them to say,
because the image was still on the
picture behind us, uh, they'd paused the
video with the two guys on the boat. I
said, if you asked your hundred people,
average people on the street, shipwreck,
and show they would say that that's what
a shipwreck looks like. You know, a
broken apart, overturned boat with two
people clinging to it. And he said,
well, that's, you know, that that's why
it's so important to explain the
context. So to answer your question,
yes, Admiral Brad Bradley is committed
to this idea that somehow that boat
might have still had cocaine on it. They
might have been able to hook up with
someone to quote continue their mission
and that they were still quote in the
fight, which poses, well, what what is
the fight exactly? Are we saying anybody
who has some amount of drugs on them,
cocaine in this case, is a legitimate
target for a kill order? Um and that
gets into the broader issues around the
policy. But yes, they they are committed
to this argument. Now, personally, you
know, the legal opinion came out 3 days
after this. Um you know, a month later,
they had a similar situation with two
people at sea that they chose to rescue.
Um that's the other aspect of this. So,
let's say that the cocaine is a weapon.
Two people in boat, middle of nowhere,
no evidence that anyone is within
hundreds of miles of them who could help
them. We had assets in the region. I'm
not going to get into specifics. We
could have easily come in with a
helicopter and plucked these two guys
off the top of that boat um and done
what we wanted with that boat.
So I don't think that this order was
justified. Yes. Now to that um element
um was the Secretary of Defense
and we've heard variations of this
story. What was his visibility into what
was going on on September 2nd? Was he
there for all of it, for some of it, for
none of it? What did he see? And what,
if anything, do you know he said during
the strike?
We don't know what he said. According to
both Secretary Hegsath, though he's been
a little inconsistent in his
descriptions here, and Admiral Bradley,
Secretary Hath was there for the initial
strike. You know, we're tracking. Okay,
we got this word out. against people
going here, they're going there,
tracking it on the boat and you know was
there when the decision was made for the
first strike. Secretary Hegsth says that
after that first strike, you know,
everything's on fire, smoke all over the
place. He left and he did not track it
from that point forward, gave no order,
though he does say he supports the the
order that Admiral Bradley gave. But
it's really important if you go back to
the press secretary um Levit Carolyn
Levit I think um when she read that
carefully prepared statement a week ago
in answer to a question that was
basically a CYA for Haggath.
Yes.
Um that hey he didn't have anything to
do with it. And as I like to put it he
said I 100% support the order that that
guy gave.
Wasn't me in the Pentagon. People in the
Pentagon, I have heard rumors. They're
kind of pissed about this.
Yeah.
Mr. Tough, beat the chest. You know,
we're gonna be warriors. I've got your
back. Let's go kill. Let's fight. Oh,
not me. I'm out. That's them. Um, so
Hakes going to push you to do stuff that
is on the boundaries of the law and then
he's going to bail if it goes sideways.
That's another problem.
Now, let's talk about the broader
issues. which include the following. How
can you legitimately claim that cocaine
is a weapon? Secondly, according to at
least a letter from the Coast Guard sent
to Senator Paul, the Coast Guard has
been interdicting cocaine pretty
regularly, pretty effectively. Some of
these people are
transporting cocaine. Some of these
people are doing nothing illegally. But
you interdict them. there has not been
or there was not used um any kind of
lethal force by the Coast Guard and that
has never been the way we've interdicted
drugs. And then the third question that
looms is why are we really doing this?
Is this all a precursor to a war that
would make the Iraq war look legitimate
and justified? In other words, is this
all setting us up for a regime change
war against Venezuela?
It's broader than that. Um, let's
separate this into three categories.
One, legitimate concern. We got a drug
problem in the US, a drug problem that
has accelerated since the introduction
of fentanyl um, which has a higher
overdose death rate um, certainly than
cocaine than a variety of other drugs.
This has nothing to do with fentanyl.
Remember that. This is all cocaine, no
fentanyl down there. They'll try to say
fentanyl at every step. In fact, I had
to stop Admiral Bradley a couple times
when he mentioned I said this. Don't say
the word fentanyl. It doesn't have
anything to do with fentanyl. Okay. Um
so we do have drug. What should we do
about that drug problem in general? So
we can talk about that. Second, you know
what do we want to obey the law is one
of our options in terms of dealing with
drugs to go sort of forgive me all
duterte on the problem um and just kill
a bunch of people you know no due
process. No, it's like drugs are a
problem. Therefore, we're not going to
take any chances. We think you're a drug
dealer. We're going to use lethal force
on you. That is directly contradictory
to the US Constitution, the way we're
supposed to do things, but that
conversation.
But the big thing that's going on here
is Trump's desire to consolidate power
in his hands, number one, and number
two, to dominate the Western Hemisphere
in a 19th century sphere of influence
sort of way. All right. The drugs I
don't think are central to what he's
doing. You've got the pardon of the the
former Honduran president as evidence,
which by the way, that pardon seems to
be tied to Trump's desire to affect the
outcome of the elections in Honduras so
that a proTrump person can be elected.
And this goes back to we're going to
invade Greenland because it's part of
our sphere of influence. We're going to
invade Panama. We're going to annex
Canada. It's this 19th century way of
looking at the world. So, I think this
is about Trump wanting to a show again
law doesn't apply to him. He's
president. He does what he wants to do.
If he can push the boundaries of that
and smash him, then that opens up more
power for him to do what he wants. And
second, that he will be able to control
the Western Hemisphere. Maduro is not on
his positive list there. Neither is pro
in Colombia. So, he wants to put
pressure on them, ultimately, hopefully
do regime change in both places so we
can have a more sympathetic um leader
down there. And that's what this is
about. And we've talked about the
Honduras person. I keep trying to bring
up, no one seems to want to take this
up. You remember uh Ross Alrech, the
Silk Road crypto guy. This guy basically
used the secret nature of cryptocurrency
and a secure app to launder billions of
dollars in drug money and other illegal
illicit activity as well. But that's
what he was convicted of. He was
laundering drug money. That guy had
every little bit as much to do with
spreading drugs across the United States
of America as Maduro or these 24 narot
terrorist groups did. Trump pardoned
him, you know, because he was a
political supporter and he promised the
crypto goons that he'd do that. So, you
know, this doesn't to my mind have a lot
to do with interdicting the drug problem
in the US. It has to do with asserting
Trump's power personally so he doesn't
have to obey the law. And second, his
self sphere of influence. And then to
make my friend Simon Rosenberg happy, I
always tie this in to Ukraine. All
right. Why did he offer up a surrender
agreement to Putin? And why in the
national security strategy does a threat
from Russia not even mention it? Okay,
we crap all over Europe in that for a
variety of different reasons. don't even
see Putin as a threat because if Trump
gets his Western hemisphere, what does
he care if Putin gets his Eastern Europe
and that and then I could go off on a
long conversation about how we developed
our national security policy to change
all of that to come up with a postw
World War II rules-based order that
tried to respect sovereignty, tried to
get us out of the business of, as was
aptly described by somebody, I don't
remember who said it, you know, the
strong take what they what they want,
the weak suffer for what they must. That
was the world prior to the end of World
War II. And that world led to endless
wars, terrible poverty, mass death. 70
million people died in World War II at
the culmination of that way of looking
at the world. No rules, just power.
That's the world that Trump wants to
create. And that's what this is about a
hell of a lot more than it is the impact
that cocaine being shipped into the
United States is having, which is
admittedly very negative and something
we ought to do about. I have ideas on
how we should actually address that
issue. Um, but like I said, it's really
more about the power dynamic.
What do your Republican colleagues think
of all this? It is hard to imagine that
Senator Wicker, who has been in this a
long time, is comfortable with a lot of
this. And after all, Donald Trump did
rise to power in large part because he
invade against wars of choice and regime
change and all the rest of it. Are they
disturbed and are they prepared to do
anything about it?
Well, I think the easiest way is you
what do they think about it? They're
trying not to think about it. Um, and I
think there are a couple of things in
particular that do sort of push them
into action and do disturb them. They
are disturbed by the notion of giving
Ukraine to Putin. U very disturbed about
that. Um, disturbed about the US
allowing that to happen. So to the
extent that that comes up, they start to
get a little twitchy. The second thing
that they're starting to be disturbed
about is the degree to which Trump wants
a unilateral government. Um, he doesn't
want Congress. You know, I mentioned the
execute orders that they don't send us.
That's tip of the iceberg. They are not
briefing us, informing us, including us,
allowing us to do our oversight in to an
unprecedented degree. And you know the
draw downs in Europe. U they did that
unilaterally without talking even after
people like chairman Wicker and Chairman
Rogers had directly express the opinion
that that shouldn't happen. So they
start to get frustrated when Trump is
ignoring Congress. But overarching that,
you know, Trump still controls the
party. He controls the party. He has the
power. I think there are two things that
give them pause to really go after Trump
and try to stop him. One is the
political reality of Trump power and
hold over the Republican party. Second
is their shared belief that the far left
is a definite threat to the America that
they want to see. Um and and and they're
not 100% wrong about that. Okay. There
are some issues that were they're
concerned about open borders. They're
concerned about what happened uh during
the Biden administration in terms of
asylum blowing, you know, the doors off
everything. They're they're concerned
about policies that don't deal with
crime. They're concerned about radical
identity politics. And if they see Trump
as the one person who's standing up
against that, you know, they are
reluctant to challenge him for those
reasons.
Does the fact that Donald Trump's power
is beginning to eb away, that he is
increasingly unpopular, that all his
policies are unpopular, has that begin
to diminish this kind of loyalty? And
does the fact of this incident, which as
we've talked about is not the totality
of the issue, but is the one visible
little thread that we can pull on. Has
that changed the equation for any of
them?
Nudged it slightly. Um, and I think the
most important thing we can do, and I
was just out at the Reagan defense forum
and I had a good opportunity on the main
panel at the start of this. Um, we have
to relentlessly put pressure on them on
these issues. you know, we have to point
out, you know, are you really okay with
Donald Trump, you know, saying that we
should hang United States senators
because they restate the the actual law
that's in the UCMJ?
Are you okay with them completely not
obeying the law in terms of oversight
for Congress? Are you okay with the
surrender to Putin? You know, we have to
keep making these arguments. Are you
okay with these tariffs that number one
were illegally put in place and number
two are undermining the US all across
the globe causing prices to value
domestically? Now, I don't have this
vision, you know, it's not like a Mr.
Smith goes to Washington moment when he
stands up and gives that impassion
speech and everyone goes, "Damn, you're
right. I'm wrong. I'm sorry." Um, that
moment probably isn't going to happen,
but you keep pushing. Okay? And it
undermines the political support for
Trump and it undermines the political
support for the people who are sucking
up to him and just let and so we start
winning more elections. We start turning
the country around. And at what point in
that whole process does a group of
Republicans finally, you know, stand up
to Trump, you know, vote to repeal the
tariffs. Um I don't know. Um there's so
many issues out there, you know, vote to
say no, we're not going to use the
National Guard as a domestic police
force. And by the way, I met with the
National Guard head in Washington State.
They don't have any money for training.
Our our guard units because all of that
money is going to send the people to DC
and Los Angeles and Chicago and Memphis
and New Orleans. You know, they are
falling further and further behind in
terms of making sure that they can keep
their force ready because Trump's
stealing all that money for an unlawful
domestic law enforcement mission. Um, so
we got to keep pushing on all of that
and hope that around. And the piece I
always say is we also have to govern
better. Those of us on the left side, as
I said, I think there are some
legitimate concerns about the way the
left has governed. Um, certainly cities
like Seattle, Portland, San Francisco,
Chicago, and elsewhere. Um, and I think
we got to say, yeah, we got it. U, we're
gonna do better, but we're going to do
better so that we don't have to live
with the terribleness that is what Trump
is doing.
Right. end with um a simple question. If
Trump can get away with this on the high
seas, is there anything that's going to
prevent him from doing it here in the
United States? What if he starts giving
an order to the National Guard? If you
see drug smugglers or here's a list of
drug smugglers, go kill them because
that cocaine is a weapon and it's here
on our shores.
Yeah.
Is there any distinction that you would
make? Isn't this a recipe for the best?
There are there are distinctions, but
you're right because keep in mind the
goal here is for Trump to eliminate all
of that so that he can decide what he
wants to do and do it what he wants to
do it. You know, he can move money
around, he can cancel programs, spend
money over here, give a tax rebate if he
feels like it, all outside of the normal
bounds of the legislative executive
balance. So, he wants to be able to have
the power to do that if he see if he
sees fit. And I defy anyone to convince
me otherwise. I mean, can you imagine a
scenario where Donald Trump wants to do
something and then says, "Oh, no, but
that's not legal, so we can't. We got to
come up we got to come up with another
angle." No, he's going to push that
envelope as hard as he can. There is one
other layer before you get to the
domestic issue, and that gets back to
the regime change issue. Right now,
we're hitting people on international
waters. Um, what if we decide to strike
the sovereign territory of another
country, either at sea or on land? Would
he be constrained to do that? I mean
that that's an act of war by
international you know legal standards
and certainly we've done it before.
We've never done it without
congressional authorization. Um so yes
there is a distinct risk of that and
every time I hear these people saying oh
so you just don't care about the drug
problem in the US. I care about the drug
problem in the US but do you want to
give the president of the United States
the power to execute people without due
process? he might not be executing drug
dealers to begin with. That's why we
have due process. That's why we things
like probable cause, you know, to make
sure that it is legal and that people's
rights are protected. And finally, just
as I said, you well, what should we do
about it? You know, Plan Colombia is
something that actually worked
reasonably well. We worked with Colombia
as a partner some odd years ago,
congressionally approved, not us coming
in just blowing stuff up. And for about
a decade, maybe a little longer, there
was a significant reduction in cocaine
coming in Colombia and in the US. If we
really want to get after this problem,
we got to find partners. We got to find
partners in Mexico, partners in
Colombia, and elsewhere to really work
to get after this. We got to put
pressure on China to stop the
precursors. I raised that issue a number
of times when I was in China two months
ago. there's things we can do that
aren't just blowing boats up in the
middle of the ocean or the Caribbean uh
which isn't really having a dramatic
impact on ah I mean people are still
getting cocaine in the United States of
America and they will for quite some
time. So there are smarter ways to do
this and again not primarily about drugs
primarily about Trump wanting to assert
his power in a wide variety of ways.
Congressman thank you so much. This has
been um enlightening to say the least
and I would only encourage you and your
colleagues to keep saying this, to keep
informing the American people to keep at
it because as you know in this fog of
disinformation and propaganda and lies
and nonsense, it is hard to get out the
truth. Um but uh again, thank you for
what you are doing and thank you for
joining us. We will have you back as
this unfolds. Uh so thank you very much.
One one simple thing, push to release
the video. They cannot defend. They
cannot defend this video if people see
it. That's simple. That's easy for
people to understand. Push to release
the video. We ought to be able to see
it.
Absolutely. Absolutely. Nothing like
seeing um seeing is believing. So, thank
you so much, Congressman. We'll look
forward to having you back.
Great to see you.

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Drug Trafficking and Murder In the Special Forces (w/ Seth Harp) | The Chris Hedges Report
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Oct 15, 2025 The Chris Hedges Report

Seth Harp chronicles how Special Forces atrocities abroad fuel a cycle of crime and violence that starts overseas and makes it way back home — especially in and around the secretive Fort Bragg military base.



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Intro
[Music]
The decades of warfare in the Middle East and global war on terror have spawned a vast secret army embodied in
special operations units such as the Green Beret, Navy Seals, and the shadowy Delta Force. Seth Harp in his book, The
Fort Bragg Cartel, calls Delta Force, for example, quote, a high-tech death
squad dedicated to covertly liquidating the male population base of a recalcitrant ethnic and tribal group
that resists US military occupation. These secret units, whose very existence
is not officially acknowledged and whose vast budgets are hidden, number some
70,000. Harp in his book details how these units are beyond scrutiny and
accountability. How they swiftly went rogue when deployed overseas, murdering and torturing with impunity, as well as
ingesting and trafficking prodigious quantities of drugs. These elite soldiers returned to the US not only
with the skill sets of professional killers, but layers of trauma and rage
that fuel acts of violence, including murder, sometimes of their wives and partners. HARP documents dozens of
unsolved killings and suicides, some of which appear highly suspicious, in and
around Fort Bragg, where units such as Delta Force are based. There were 105
deaths at the base between 2020 and 2021 alone. His book details how military
alliances with the world's leading drug dealers, especially in Afghanistan, where the US backed puppet state, was
the world's preeminent heroin cartel, led many in these units, to engage in
distribution and sale of vast quantities of narcotics up and down the eastern
seabboard. He chronicles the corruption that came with the deliveries of vast sums of money in shrink wrapped pallets
to buy allegiances in Afghanistan. deliveries that saw some of these soldiers pill for funds, billions of
dollars worth, and come home with tens of thousands of dollars taped to their bodies, money often used to jumpstart
drug dealing. Katherine Lutz in her book Homefront, her 2002 study on Fagatville,
where Fort Bragg is located, calls the town quoted dumping ground for the problems of the American century of war
and empire, where the wounds of war have pierced most deeply and are most visible. Along with narcotics, elite
soldiers sell pilford weapons from military bases on the black market.
Sales that have amounted to billions in lost dollars. Joining me to discuss his book, The Fort Bragg Cartel and the rise
of these secret armies is Seth Harp. First of all, it's a great book. It does
What is Delta Force?
what all great uh it's a very well written. what all great works of non-fiction should do, which is take a
microcosm and extrapolate outwards to explain uh uh a cultural or social
millu. I I can't uh praise it enough. Um it's also just a great read. Um so let's
begin Seth with uh defining for us uh delta force itself um how it was formed.
is a product of course of the Vietnam War uh and what it does. Thanks Chris. Uh Delta Force is what's
called a special mission unit um which are secretive and elite um units
specially drawn from the special uh forces of the army army special forces
or green berets also the army rangers if you it's open to uh service members from
all branches but primarily draws from those those army formations. So, it's kind of a higher tier to the special
forces or the most elite tier of the special forces and it's entirely uh dedicated to covert actions or things
that uh the government um either will deny uh or will say nothing about their
own role in. Uh and um as you alluded to earlier, during the wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan, the the unit effectively functioned um as you know what I
describe as a as a death squad. Um, and uh,
Counterproductive Special ops
what what are they? I mean, so I had a had a friend of mine who was a ranger in
Afghanistan, and they would be based in a certain area. They would build relationships
with local leaders. Uh, and then suddenly in the middle of the night, one
of these black ops units would descend and shoot a bunch of people uh, and then disappear. and they would uh bear the
the brunt of all the understandable rage and anger including the the attacks from
the Taliban. Uh I mean he saw these forces and I think as you mentioned in
the book Schwarzkoff did as well as really counterproductive uh to the stated mission of uh those who were
trying to domesticate Iraq and Afghanistan. Yeah, that's not a common that's not an uncommon sentiment to hear
from uh either tier 2 special forces or guys in the conventional military, the
regular army. Um that these units because they're so secretive and siloed
off because they don't share any of their operational plans with anybody uh and never talk about them afterwards.
They kind of come in and do their own thing, which typically tends to be, you know, striking a target and leaving
everyone there dead and the building on fire and then just leaving. And nobody can really explain where uh the intel
for that operation cames from. Many cases, perhaps as high as uh 50% of the cases, they're hitting targets based on
faulty intelligence by mistake. So completely unaccountable. And those assassinations
um were very counterproductive uh in Afghanistan in particular. Um the Afghan client sate that we set up
as pliable as it was undermed Karzai and later under Ashraf Ghani complained constantly about these night raids. Um
drone strikes we hear have heard a lot more about there have been more reporting and more books and research
done on drone strikes. The other component of it was these night rays or these assassination missions um which
were designed or intended to uh decapitate and incapacitate uh the
Taliban resistance but of course wholly failed to to to um achieve that mission
in the end. Well, as you point out in the book, the way they got target lists was often confiscating cell phones under
F3EAD intelligence
interrogation or from and then just adding the people on the cell phones to the list. Uh, isn't that correct?
That's correct. And honestly, even if you share um even if you subscribe to the, you know, the policy assumptions
and are supportive of US foreign policy and support these wars, uh you should still be very concerned about the
quality of intelligence um which is wholly outside any kind of um review. No
one really knows exactly how they generate targets uh except we do know that it's highly fallible. So even if
you support, you know, waging war in Afghanistan for 20 years, um I think should be concerned about the curtain of
secrecy that's around these units and the fact that often times they themselves really don't know who they're targeting and they're I think highly
overconfident in their own assessments which turn out to be um you know very
flawed. So Seth, the these people are uh handed all sorts of uh drugs uh dextro
amphetamines which lead to addictions. But before I get into that, I just want to read a little passage from your book.
Billy Lavigne’s violence
Uh you focus at the beginning of uh their two best friends, Ash actually
Leser and Lavine. Uh and uh Lavine ends
up killing Leager. Um but I just want to read this paragraph. One night at his
house, Lavine confessed to Nicole, I think that was his sister, that he had once shot and killed a child. He was
just a little boy, he told her, but he had a gun. He also introduced her to his dog, a totally poised, hyper alert
Belgian uh Malininoa named Rocky that had been one of the unit's working
animals. Nicole wanted to know why it had no teeth. Lavine told her that its
titanium dentures had been surgically removed upon retirement because the dog had been trained to attack and it growed
accustomed to feeding on the flesh of people killed in special operations raids, including being allowed as a
treat to eat human brains. Horrifying, I know. Um, and actually
people seized upon and there's a lot of criticism, some criticism of my work. It's very much mixed. There are certain
forums where current and former special operations soldiers talk about a number of things and my book sometimes comes
up. Some of them are supportive of it and agree that I've accurately diagnosed certain systemic problems in the
community. Others attack it and say that it's exaggerated. And this is one thing um that the um you know opponents of of
the work um seized upon to say that this can't be true. This is proof that um I
am just recycling, you know, tall tales that were told, you know, to in this
case Nicole Rick. You know, they're criticizing the fact that it's women who are telling me this. Nicole is a sister of a Green Beret is not coming directly
from someone at the unit and they're saying, you know, these are just crazy stories that they're either telling to impress women or scare them or whatever.
Um but in response to th those comments, somebody on the Kiwi Farms forum, which
is where this takes conversation takes place, posted an actual video of almost
the same thing that I was describing. It was a clearly marked special operations K9, a Belgian Malininoa um that was
attacking a dead body uh of clearly clearly a South Asian person, Middle
Eastern. uh it's hard to say the person is covered in blood, but the dog is attacking him right around the head area
just as I had described uh in the book. So, the fact that that video footage even existed to me was shocking. Um and
then the fact that someone had posted it even more so. Not only that, you know, talking about, you know, brains and
stuff. I mean, it's these details are gruesome and horrifying. I include them advisedly not to shock people. There's a
lot of stuff that I leave out because it's successive, gratuitous, but Lavine himself wrote a memoir of his time in
the service and he he talks about executing at close range a unarmed prisoner uh who was seized in a 2015
raid in Syria, the target of which was a guy named Abu Sai, Tunisian oil trader who was a top who was believed to be a
top ISIS figure. Um, and Lavine says that um, you know, a piece of this
person's brain flew into his mouth cuz his mouth was open at the time he pulled the trigger. And he talks about having
to wash the taste of brains out of his mouth. So, this type of intense close
uh, range brutality uh, and gore and violence is a is a normal part of what
it was like to be a Delta Force operator during the 20 years of the wars in Iraq
and Afghanistan. and I think goes a long way towards explaining how some of them came to seem like such brain damaged
Frankenstein monsters like like Lavine uh tragically ended up being.
Oh, there's a moment in the book where uh I think she's a woman, but she's in the military and let's be clear, you're
a veteran and I and you served in Afghanistan um Iraq, excuse me. And um she talks
about somebody coming back from a mission and there's brain on his boots. there's human brain on his boots,
right? Um, and as as distressing it as as it is to hear those kind of details,
we should be aware of it because that's what we, you know, our military that we pay for, that's what they go out and do.
their job is to go out uh and and kill people um in service of these
increasingly obscure and abstract national security objectives that are shared by not a large swath of of the
population but rather um most of the people who who live and work in Washington DC.
Drug use
So I want to talk about drugs um which play an important uh part in the in the
uh text of your work. Um they're given drugs by the military. Uh it leads to
addictions. Uh when you write about Lavine, uh you write by 2008 he was smoking
crack on a daily basis and regularly ingested MDMA, smoked crystal,
methamphetamine, snorted powder heroin, and had even taken to inserting speedballs, a dangerous mixture of
heroin and cocaine into his rectum in a dissolvable capsule to get a quicker and more powerful high. the the drugs and
alcohol. I mean, the amount that these people ingest, of course, uh is kind of
staggering. And we'll talk about the drug dealing later, but talk about how pervasive that was and the the
culpability of the military and kind of kickstarting these habits.
The military prescribed special operators dextroetamine as a matter of course, uh commonly known as Adderall.
Um, it is an amphetamine that allows you to stay awake for long periods of time uh and to tolerate sleeplessness that
some of these missions require. It also has the effect um whether incidental or
not of um increasing aggression uh and suppressing empathy. Uh in Lavine's
case, he specifically cited the prescription he had been given to Adderall as precipitating his drug
issues uh which is a common um sort of gateway or path towards abuse of hard harder substances. He started crushing
and snorting his aderall, taking double the dose that was given to him. Uh and then pretty soon he graduated to just
just using cocaine and smoking crack cocaine. Uh and then his drug uh use and
dependency deteriorated from there. Um, more generally in the community, um,
there's a ton of drinking. I mean, alcoholism is a major factor of life in the special forces. And it's not to be
puritanical or to be judgmental, uh, of these people. I mean, a lot of people in our country struggle with substance
abuse. It's actually one of the most salient aspects of American society. Um
but I think that there is a kind of um there's a kind of um there's a there's a
sense in which it becomes necessary in order to to um cope with the pressures
of of a job like being an operator on Delta Force. Um the need to to numb the
pain and grief that comes from participating uh in in this type of violence. um and also you know in
readjusting or trying to readjust to civilian life because a lot of them are almost literally addicted to adrenaline
and um need stimulation at all times. I mean a lot of these guys um their psychological
makeup is such that they're constantly in need of stimulation and they really don't like to be bored. Uh and so those
are traits all of which are traits that that um you know are conducive to to drug use. And I think those are some of
the reasons why you've seen such widespread prevalence of of drug use in the in the Green Beretss and in the
airborne corps all at Fort Bragg to a degree that you don't see elsewhere in in the US military.
Patriots vs. degens
You quote Terrell, you said the unit guys kind of separate themselves into
two groups. um Terrell who like leaker aspired to
join Delta Force but failed to meet the rigorous and often arbitrary selection criteria. Quote, "You have the tea
toters, the guys who are super Christian warriors for God, no drugs, no alcohol,
super goody goody by the book. Then you have the guys who are just complete [ __ ] derelcts, constantly doing
nefarious [ __ ] Those are the ones you write about in the book, right? That's right. I don't focus on
the sort of good apples, so to speak. They do exist. Um the guys that by their own internal ethical lights are doing
the right thing. Uh we may quibble with, you know, the the inherent nature of their job or the the foreign policy
objectives to which they're tasked to serve. Um nevertheless, they're not just
engaged in blatantly criminal activity, but a shocking number of people in these special mission units are. Uh and I
think that's something that we should all be very concerned about. you rais a point. It's fairly early in the book and
Waco cult shooting
it's about the wos. So this is the uh branch devidian these splinter group of
the 7th day advent uh they've stockpile weapons in anticipation of judgment day
there's a standoff uh after this is you writing after a
lengthy standoff in which the members of the apocalyptic offshoot church refused to surrender their guns and ammo the
federal agents moved in with surprisingly aggressive tactics making use of heavy machine guns armored
personnel carriers and even tanks. Amid the resulting gun battle, scores of people burned to death, including dozens
of women and children. And then you write a full six years later, it emerged that notwithstanding the PY commitatus
act, which bars the military from acting as a domestic law enforcement agency,
Delta Force operators have played a key part in the assault on the compound. So this is always you know my and it's a
question for you the the extent to which these forces we know they were you
document they were used in Waco can be used domestically and then of course you
have people when they leave uh the the Delta Force or SEALs are snapped up by
well the Gazi Humanitarian Foundation is one but uh paramilitary groups, Eric,
which Eric Prince runs. Uh they uh can be recruited into ICE. Um but I I I I
found that a kind of important point in the book. Yeah, certainly. I mean, I wasn't aware
that Delta Force had played a role in the in the Waco raid. I'm actually from Austin, so Waco's just an hour north of
here. Um and um the I think the
relationship between Delta Force and the FBI is is a cause for some concern. Um
they have a very close working relationship and um you know Delta Force is supposed to play an advisory role uh
to help you know let's say the FBI's hostage rescue team uh deal with an active shooter situation or something of
that nature. Um but you know the posi commatis act which bars the military
from acting in a domestic law enforcement role uh I think should be a higher bar towards you know the
participation of units like this in domestic law enforcement situations and we're seeing today I mean that was that
was many years ago almost 30 years ago and um you know today we're seeing once again a sort of militarization of law
enforcement in the United States you know these ICE guys and that's leads me to a broader point that's maybe worth
touching on the sort of trickle down cultural effects of this of these units and units like them where everyone wants
to be a bearded special operator. everyone whatever military unit in or whatever police uh whether they're just
you know regular cops working in beat they all adopt these aesthetics and attitudes of these units which is like
you know the longer hair the beards the tattoos just the the Oakley sunglasses
just the whole um you know image that of the of the special operator is something
that has come to have widespread cultural currency in our society and I
think um much for the worse Uh because, you know, when they're dressed like that
and when they're comporting themselves like that, they can't help but look at all of us the same way as they looked at
Iraqis uh and Afans and Syrians and operations overseas, which are just, you
know, threats, you know, to be neutralized, people to be to surveiled and then killed as needed.
Ali Mohammed
Before we go into the drug dealing, I want you to talk about Ali Muhammad. This is a fascinating
uh story. I I'll let you tell it. Sure. Um, you know, I think they So, I
briefly recapitulate the history. The book is not a work of history. It's a it's intended to be a murder mystery at
the heart of it. Quite a kind of a police uh kind of police beat reporting. Um, but in order to tell this the
backstory of these operators lives, I recapitulate a brief history of the
global war on terrorism with a focus on Fort Bragg soldiers in particular because Fort Bragg is really the beating
heart of the global special operations complex and many people are unaware of its centrality in all of these events.
So when it came to 9/11 and telling the story of 9/11 in a way that I hope could be fresh, I focused on a role of a Fort
Bragg soldier whose name was Ali Muhammad. He was actually born in Egypt
uh and was a special forces soldier in Egypt but came over Fort Bragg is the home to the JFK special warfare center
in school um which often hosts or sponsors foreign military officers uh
they're from countries that are allied with the United States such as Egypt. There they often become assets of either
the CIA or just assets of the national security uh institutions in general. Um
Ali Muhammad was one of those people. Um, it's a question of how deeply we want to get into it because this guy's
career was quite uh extensive. But in short, he was some kind of operative in
the CIA's war in Afghanistan against the Russian occupiers in the 1980s. He was
deeply involved in that. Um, most likely as an asset of the CIA. We know that he
had been approached by the CIA. We know that he was monitored by them and that he was receiving money from obscure sources. Um he also became a US citizen
and actually joined the army and was stationed at Forbra as a uniformed American soldier which I think is
important to point out because subsequently he became a close associate of Iman al- Zawahhiri who of course was
the co-founder of al-Qaeda with Osama bin Laden. Ali Muhammad, this American soldier, uh,
then went on to personally train Osama bin Laden and all of Osama bin Laden's
core security detail in special operations warfare tactics, specifically
using manuals that he took from Fort Bragg, and trained them in all sorts of things, you know, surveillance and
ambushes, including in how to hijack airplanes. He specifically taught the core uh leaders of al-Qaeda how to
hijack airplanes using box cutters. It was that specific because we have a copy
of the training manual um or the FBI has a copy of the training manual that Ali Muhammad used to train these guys. Now
Ali Muhammad was was reeled in somehow to the United States uh after the Kenya
and Tanzania bombings in 1998. So he had was brought back to the United States and he was sort of kind of arrested,
sort of kind of indicted and prosecuted more or less in these closed doors
anonymized federal court proceedings that no one witnessed. And then after that, before he was actually sentenced,
he was just disappeared into the bowels of the US government. and nothing has ever been heard from him since. Which is
crazy because in the sort of canonical accounts that you hear about 9/11 uh and
the c the deep causes behind 9/11, why this event befell our country, um it's
often acknowledged the role of the CIA's war in Afghanistan in creating the conditions that led to the rise of
al-Qaeda. But if you read mainstream Pulitzer Prizewinning reporters who have
written the most extensive accounts of of 9/11, what they will always say is
that there was no direct contact between Osama bin Laden and anyone in the CIA.
And to date, there has never been any evidence of direct contact between the agency and Osama bin Laden. But what
that omits is the fact that there was a direct extensive um and uh longlasting
relationship between Osama bin Laden and an active duty member of the US Army
special forces. So I think that's a really significant omission especially because this guy is still in US custody
somewhere. He lived in Osama bin Laden's house in Pakistan, right? In Peshawar, right?
Military psy-ops
Um I'm going to just to move on, but you write a lot
about the the blowback in terms of domestic violence, the wife killings at
Fort Bragg. Um, and there was a series of killings, I
think, what was it, six spouses or something or murdered or I can't remember the number. But then uh of
course the the Fort Bragg and in particular uh the Delta commanders just
go into overdrive to to exonerate everybody from these killings, most of them, and cover it up. And they actually
begin to spin bizarre theories uh that uh the anti- uh malarial drug
Maleficquin uh which is Larium which I took in the southern Sudan is to blame that I mean
just and the media buys it. I mean the the one of the kind of minor subtexts of
your book is just how easily the media is just spun by these people repeatedly.
Yeah. The special forces are expert in psychological operations and SCOPS are a
big part of what they do. Now um by law those psychological operations have to be directed at foreign populations. They
can't be directed at American citizens. But not only is there a lot of bleedback in the age of the internet, but also
these guys when they're dealing with the media, they um sort of naturally inhabit that role and that ability to spin and
manipulate and they're quite capable of controlling media coverage of their operations through selective um leaks
and selective disclosures. In the case that you're talking about in 2002 when um four Fort Bragg uh four
army wives stationed at Fort Bragg were murdered in short succession by their husbands all of whom or nearly all of
whom were special forces soldiers who had just returned from Afghanistan. That looks really bad. That could cause a
call into question um you know the relationship between American militarism
and certain forms of blowback especially violence against women. But instead of that, some senior officials from Delta
Force got on the phone with um credulous reporters from UPI and other um wire
services and newspapers of record and told them that the what had happened was that Larium, this malaria drug that they
had taken caused these guys to lose their mind and become paranoid and aggressive and in fact homicidal. This
is a ridiculous theory. There's no basis at all for it in medical science. Um,
it's completely untrue and unsupported. However, it was repeated by virtually
all mainstream media institutions in the United States and in foreign countries in France and Italy, all across Europe
and in Israel. Everyone reported that these guys had lost their minds from taking the malaria drug. Um, and I use
that in the book. I don't dwell on it long, but I use it as a just a case study in how they're able to control the
way that the media covers Delta Force operations and their blowback in in the United States.
Turbocharging special ops
So, you write about the huge expansion of these and Obama was really the figure that uh turbocharged
uh these special operations units. Um, but of course it depended on a false
narrative. It was justified by a false narrative. Uh, and that was spun by Mcrist, Stanley Mcristel. Uh, you write,
"Although there were relatively few foreign fighters in Iraq and most came from neighboring Syria, Mcrist was the
primary proponent of the view quick to spread among Washington policymakers that the enemy was not a nationalist
rebellion against outside occupation, but one node of a global conspiracy of
Americahating terrorists." To describe this nebulous and inherently malignant
foe, Mcrist and his staff invented the term al-Qaeda in Iraq or AQI. Um, and of
course that just morphed into the global war on terror. Can you talk about that? When uh the Iraq war first began, of
course, it was premised on the idea that Iraq was in possession of weapons of mass destruction and might either
directly attack the United States or might provide terrorists with these weapons that they could then carry out
attacks in the United States. We know that this was false. This was a conspiracy theory that was invented by
the Bush administration and the CIA to justify the criminal invasion of Iraq.
it quickly became apparent that in fact there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Um and so at that
point the narrative pivoted. I actually happened to be deployed as a very junior
soldier to Iraq at that time 2004 and 5. And I remember this change taking place.
it suddenly became all now it became about this organization called al-Qaeda in Iraq and specifically this figure um
the Alzarqawi and I remember seeing his uh his face his picture on big billboard
wanted posters around Baghdad but looking into this deeply and
researching it I found that the role of Alzari was highly exaggerated and in
fact he may not have even been in Iraq at the time the reason why they latched upon this
uh this Jordanian of Palestinian descent who was by all accounts more of a criminal and a thug uh than than an
actual terrorist um was in order to um paste a sort of um mask upon the
insurgency and paint it as a um foreign as foreign fighters. Foreign fighters
were said to be coming into Iraq to fight the occupation. And so the evolving theory of the war became that
we need to be there so that we can fight them there so that we're not fighting them here. I even remember guys in my
own unit making that same argument when we would debate these things around the time of the 2004 election. Um but in
reality as Stanley Mcristel frankly acknowledges in his book they greatly
exaggerated Zarqawi's role and the role of foreign fighters in Iraq. There were there were hardly any foreign fighters
in Iraq as a percentage of the insurgency. most of them came from Syria which is very similar to Iraq in its
terms of its um ethnography. Um and uh the resistance the insurgency was
primarily nationalist resistance to outside occupation just like you would expect to see in any foreign country
that's been or any country that's been invaded uh by foreign forces. Um, so it
was a way for them to get around the fact that the insurgency was an essentially legitimate enterprise of resistance. And not only that, but also
to expand the war and say, well, now there's an al-Qaeda franchise in Syria and now there's an al-Qaeda franchise
here and there. And in reality, if you look deeply uh at these groups and at the evidence for, you know, what's being
described as them belonging to a so so-called decentralized franchise or cell of al-Qaeda, it's really absent any
actual command and control nodes, any actual communication between them and the original al-Qaeda, which was broken
into a million pieces and dispersed into the mountains of Pakistan and Yemen pretty early on in in the war in
Afghanistan. So again, this is a psychological warfare. This is psychological warfare that they're
waging in which they characterize the enemy in a way in which is conducive to the to the continuation of the war and
delegitimizing you know um resistance to US military occupation.
Indiscriminate killings / low quality intel
I just want to mention how indiscriminate the killing was.
Um, so JSOK, that is Joint Special Operations Command in Iraq, you write,
was hindered by an almost complete lack of Arabic skills within our force. Uh
you're quoting Mc Crystal suggesting that nearly all of those whom Delta killed were targeted based not on the
content of telephone intercepts but on pseudocientific nodal analysis tips from
paid informants and arbitrary guesswork. Um, we were not death squads, Mcrist
writes. And then you write, but armed with NSA intercepts backed by newly developed Reaper drones and joined by
fierce Kurdish mercenaries called Mohawks. That's exactly what Jac became
during the covert surge in Iraq, which lasted into 2008. the body count from
Delta Force Delta Force's killing spree and the proportion of Iraq's hundreds of
thousands of war dead who were gunned down in Jacock night raids will never be known because it wasn't recorded in the
first place. This is a point I really um hammer upon which is the low quality of intel and
the sort of unknown factor there. The X factor about the quality of JOX's
intelligence because again even if you support these foreign wars, what is the
reason to believe that they're attacking and killing the right people? Because it certainly hasn't been reflected in any
kind of positive outcome in those countries. And every uh uh every indication that I can ascertain suggests
that in fact they're very bad at identifying the people um that they're supposed to be fighting.
Well, I covered the war in El Salvador for 5 years and the death squads, which when I got to El Salvador were killing
between 700 and a,000 people a month were the best recruiting weapon the FMLN rebels had. I got to assume it was the
same in Iraq. And certainly in Afghanistan, that was the the main reason why the Taliban was resurgent.
That's supported by vast vast amounts of reporting uh on the ground talking to
people that were part of that were just part of the population or part of the Taliban. It was these night killings,
these night raids, these invasions of people's houses and the massacre of you know all the males and often times the
women too. um which is what made the Taliban seem preferable to the to the US
occupation in the eyes of ordinary Afghans. Let's talk about heroin. Um so you write
The US funded the largest cartel in the world
Afghanistan after 8 years of US occupation was now producing nine times more heroin than the rest of the world
combined. And of course that bled over into the Afghan population. Uh the
Afghan National Army was filled with addicts as you write. Um
um but then the alliance between in essence these uh narco traffickers
uh in the northern alliance and everywhere else uh essentially drew in
members of these special forces. Explain how that happened. So Afghanistan under US occupation
produced more than more heroin than the entire world could absorb. And the truth
around this phenomenon I think is one of the bestkept secrets of the 21st century. And the lack of awareness uh in
the general population among Americans is really astonishing. But it's not a
surprise their ignorance has been procured by the mass media and the government which is hiding this sort of
crime of the century. As I sometimes think about it, the um the 2000s and the
2010s were a time of a global heroin crisis around the world. In the United States uh as it's recent memory, people
are well aware that we had a terrible heroin crisis in this country. It became uh nearly the leading cause of death
among adults. and then of course morphed and transformed into the fentinel epidemic which is with us today and has
never been worse than it is right now. Well, the cause of that heroin crisis was down to the war in Afghanistan. The
war in Afghanistan caused the heroin crisis globally in Europe, in Russia, in
Australia, in Asia, uh and also in Canada and in the United States. All of
these countries, all these uh countries that have um you know that are either first world or have a large market for
drug users were inundated with high highly potent and very very cheap heroin
from Afghanistan during this time and it's just supply and demand. When there's that much of it, it becomes a lot cheaper. In the United States,
people whose um opiate addiction had been primed by loose prescribing practices around prescription pills
found that they could buy heroin for a lot cheaper than they could get, let's say, some percoet pills that have been
uh diverted from the elicit drug market. And the dirty secret that no one in in
government or media bothered to tell us all these years was that the people in Afghanistan that were producing that
drug, those drugs, they were people on the US payroll. They were they were um narco warlords that were that were
directly armed, sponsored, and protected by the CIA and the special forces. Uh and that complicity went all the way up
to the top of the corrupt Afghan client state. Hamemed Carzai and his family in
particular. Um you know the the they were definitely implicated in it and many other uh named warlords. You know,
I I have their names in the book and the site the sources that I cite to demonstrate for a fact that this
government, this client government in Afghanistan was effectively, you know, the biggest drug cartel in in world
history. And the fact that the United States, the whole of the United States government was complicit in this is
really mind-boggling to contemplate and um not enough people are aware of it in
my opinion. So, let's talk about how these special forces operators use the skills that
they have learned uh and become drug dealers. Um, you profile, I think his
name is Huff, a former state trooper. Um, uh, and then maybe Losas, I mean, so
you train, these people are highly trained uh, and they take those skills
into the drug market. talk about that process. I mean, the amount of of heroin
that was coming into uh the Fort Bragg area, there was a small airport near Fort Bragg that you
write about was kind of staggering. I mean, uh uh just massive amounts and
much of it was funneled through uh not just former members of special forces
units, but active members of special forces units. Yeah. Now, that airport, the Rafford
drop zone, um, or that PK Air Park it's sometimes called, that's a privately
owned business. And if I told a lie about them being involved in and their that institution, that facility being
involved in international drug trafficking, they could turn around and sue me for defamation really quickly.
But the facts are clear, the facts are nailed down. There are criminal prosecutions that have either taken
place or that have been fully adjudicated uh show that that airport is which is where Delta Force does its uh parachute
training has been a hub of international drug trafficking since the 1980s and
involving current or former special forces soldiers trafficking drugs into
the United States by air and landing them and offloading them in this um this airport that's within Fort Bragg's
airspace and is contiguous with the case um and has been a center of Delta Force
training for decades. Um most recently the the um manager of the airport, a guy
named Tim Faker, whose father Gene Thcker was an OG Green Beret who was the sort of the pioneer of this illicit
enterprise. Tim Thcker the son was convicted relatively recently uh of
methamphetamine trafficking and was said by North Carolina prosecutors to have been uh the biggest meth trafficker in
that state's history. That's just one story I tell about systemic drug trafficking taking place in the special
forces, you know, around Fort Bragg. And um, you know, to answer your question or to elaborate a little bit more, I think,
um, it often has to do with that need for stimulation that I talked about. Sometimes these guys aren't necessarily
doing it for money. Like you said, they have a certain skill set, this irregular warfare skill set, this attitude, this
mindset of um, doing things secretly and getting away with it. Uh that's something that tends to port over
relatively easily to the drug trade. And Billy Lavine in his memoir that he wrote
that I obtained after my book was published um he talks about specifically this about how as he started to get into
the drug game um and started meeting higher level drug traffickers, they were very interested in his background and
understood that his skill set was something very valuable to him. and he became an adviser to the cartel helping
them do things uh like understand police surveillance because of course as a Delta Force operator he understood these
things very very well what the cap capabilities uh and um limitations were of um
surveillance how it works and how to evade it and also he was helping them traffic drugs by air from Central
America into the United States uh including through the use of um uh cargo
uh like dropping uh dropping drug cargo with a parachute from a plane either
either without a person or accompanied by uh a parachute jumper. I mean, this is the tactic that has used at the
airport and in this community since the 1980s. They will fly drugs in from overseas and they will jump out with it
and uh into some of the national forests around North Carolina or Tennessee or Georgia um and uh and maybe come back
for it later or what have you. But that's the that's the game that they're playing at Fort Bragg. has been going on
for a long time and whenever it comes to light, it tends to get um passed over or actively covered up by the military
command. So, one of the things you write about in the book are a series of killings
Michael Hastings’ mysterious death
um including the killing of Lavine in
murky circumstances. You bring up web and then you talk, which I didn't know
until I read your book, that they have the capacity to take over the steering mechanism of a car. So, I mean, this is
the kind of things they do overseas, but there are uh many incidents,
especially around Fort Bragg, that uh seem to suggest they're doing this domestically.
Um I I think you may be referring to the case of Michael Hastings, the reporter. I'm sorry, Hastings. I was Hastings.
Yes. Gary Webb is the reporter who shot him twice. That was the contra he Yeah. Mhm.
Um and uh so but I see obviously why those uh two men would be related in
your mind. They're certainly related in mine. Um they are reporters who who died
mysteriously, you know, after reporting on these type of issues. Michael Hastings was the guy was the Rolling
Stone reporter who got Stanley Mcrist fired. Um, and he, you know, because he
wrote the runaway general, which, uh, you know, depicted Mcrist and his aids getting drunk and making jokes about
President Biden's staff. Um, you know, Mcrist of course being the architect being the the the sort of godfather of
modern Jac, uh, and the architect of the assassination programs in Iraq and in Syria and in Afghanistan. Um, so, you
know, what happened to Hastings after that is, uh, is, uh, ambiguous. Um it's
not clear exactly how he died, but there's a video of his car crashing. Um
and um it's hard to understand what happened there, why he he was sober at the time of his death, contrary to
the article that the shameful article that New York Magazine published insinuating that Michael Hastings was
under was had a drug problem and was under the influence at the time of his death. That was a lie. He was sober when
he died. Um and the the car appears on the video. It seems like it's a grainy
video, but it seems like it explodes before it crashes. And people who called 911 talked about it being uh talked
about hearing an explosion rather than a car crash. Um, now again, it was ruled
an accident and Michael Hastings's own family supports the view that it was an accident. So, I don't want to make
irresponsible allegations, but it is the case that in 2017, several years later,
uh there was a hack of the CIA's um CIA documents that was released by Wikileaks. One of the documents there
was something from their embedded device branch of the CIA uh which showed that the the agency was researching how to
infect onboard uh car computers uh with malware that would allow them to to
conduct undetectable assassinations by steering a car into an immovable object
at high speed. So obviously when that came out um you know the conspiracy theories around Hastings's death really
resurged and and and have really never been dispelled as far as I'm concerned.
Lavigne’s death
Let's talk about some of these killings around Fort Bragg uh including the killing of Lavine
uh and he was with uh one of his uh drug partners. Was his name Dumi
Dumas? I can't remember. Um, but there's just a series of killings around there
that uh are inexplicable.
It's really shocking the the number and the frequency of these sort of soldier on soldier homicides, murders taking
place on base that appear to be like settling of accounts or drug deals gone wrong involving some of the most elite
soldiers in the army including Lavine uh Billy Lavine and Timothy Dumas is the is a sort of central murder mystery that I
explore in the book. Lavine, as I've alluded to several times already, was a Delta Force operator at the top of his
game and had done 14 deployments, you know, was 37 years old. Um, and had this
terrible drug problem that we discussed, was working with drug cartels, as we discussed. Um, and his life came to an
end in 2020. His body was found uh riddled with bullets and dumped in a
remote training uh range on Fort Bragg alongside the other soldier that you mentioned, Timothy Dumis, who was al was
a JOC support soldier uh who had deployed to Afghanistan at least four times uh and was in charge of securing
the supply lines for the special forces. Um and the police say that this was a drug deal gone wrong. Uh that in itself
is is shocking that that kind of thing can take place on Fort Bragg involving guys like that who are in such
privileged positions uh uh in the military uh hierarchy and um you know
both of them had previously killed people. Lavine had killed uh a green beret at his house green Mark Leer and a
few years earlier in 2018 he had killed this guy and the military and the and the civilian. And let's be clear they covered it up.
He he was completely exonerated even though as you document in the book uh
the scenario that they accepted was not supported by the evidence. Won't go into
the details but they completely got him off. Correct. And that led directly to his
own death because Lavine was so out of control that he needed to be in prison. He was a danger to himself. He was a
danger to other people. And um he may have killed other people in the interim. His memoir certainly suggests that he
hints broadly at doing hit jobs for the cartel. Um so that uh that act of
malfeence and dereliction of duty committed by the district attorney of uh Cumberland County as well as the army's
uh criminal investigations division that led to these other deaths. Uh and they I
think there they should be reckoning around that the responsibility for that. But the question remains, who was
responsible for killing these guys? Because it was a professional job. These are not easy people to kill. Lavine in
particular was somebody who was a very competent um you know military operator
who had been who would be hard to get the drop on to say the least. Dumis, same story. He was a very hard hard man.
All these guys always went around armed uh and um they knew what who they were
dealing with. Dangerous people. So, who was responsible for killing them and dumping their bodies on Fort Bragg?
Well, I don't want to spoil um the last chapter of my book. Uh but suffice it to say, the person that the that the that
the DOJ is attempting to pin those crimes on, I have really struggled to
find anybody who accepts the government story because it's so on its face uh is
so implausible. I want to talk about loas. So these are
Los Zetas
the the big Mexican drug cartel. You write, "The advent of Lozetas, who
really were naroterrorists, inaugurated the darkest era in all of Mexican history. Trained in marksmanship, rapid
deployment, ambushes, surveillance, and psychological operations, Losas used
overt military force to consolidate control over most of the Texas border and the Gulf Coast port of Verarac Cruz,
augmented by the state and local police forces that they co-opted, as well as an endless supply of short-lived hitmen
recruited from the lumpen class of the northern borderlands. Lozettas wore paramilitary uniforms, drove around in
homemade armored vehicles called monstros, and to so terror filmed
themselves committing sickening atrocities. Countless thousands died in
their raids, assaults, and sprees of arson. Countless thousands more were
abducted and disappeared. a sophisticated criminal militia that used encrypted communications and had the
backing of deep pocketed investors, powerful lawyers, and many Mexican
politicos. Loettas leveraged their military control over large sws of
territory to diversify into nearly every illicit enterprise imaginable, reaping
billions of dollars in profits. And where did they come from?
So, Lozettas are a perfect example of how US militarism and intervention in
foreign countries, in this case, Mexico, stimulates drug trafficking and spreads
terrorism and murder uh to the countries that are that are victimized um by this
these forms of imperialism. The Lettas were uh trained by the special forces.
This is a Mexican special forces unit that was trained by the US Green Beretss including at Fort Bragg, also at Fort
Benning and they also were trained by Israeli instructors. Um, and they were
meant to be uh in the mold of the Green Berets. They were meant to be the Mexican Green Berets. But they, this
unit quickly after being used to savagely suppress the Zapatista uprising in Chiapas in the mid 90s, they went
rogue and looked around the uh, you know, the sort of underworld scene in Mexico and realized, hey, you know,
nobody we're we're the baddest dudes around and, you know, we can we can run this game if we want. And that's exactly
what they did. they defected from the Mexican state and became the most notorious cartel in Mexican history. Uh,
Losettas, um, which really precipitated the terrible homicide crisis that continues
in Mexico to this day in which hundreds of thousands of people have died because of this new model of a paramilitary
cartel. uh you know where it's just it's guys who have who have expert military
training who are using that military training directly to affectuate you know drug trafficking uh operations and
control large swats of territory. That's a model that was picked up by other cartels in Mexico. Loettas to today are
are fragmented uh and and isolated. Uh but you know the the model that was
created continues to to the great great detriment of Mexico. And again, it's an
example just like in Afghanistan where we have, you know, what's described as a narco state um and what are described as
narco terrorists. So if you look into the background, if you run the clock back, you'll see what originally started
this was the um you know the the the uh US intervention and the incompetence or
malice uh misjudgment just everything misguided about it uh of the way that we
deal with foreign countries and the way in which we try to co-opt them and use them to carry out you know our national
our national security objectives. You close the book by talking about
The Return of Fort Bragg
Hegsth, the new Trump administration, uh, restoring the name
of Fort Bragg. It had been renamed Fort Liberty. Bragg was pretty mediocre Confederate general. And, uh, you know,
that last line of your book, Fort Bragg is back, is not just about the renaming
of the fort. It's about something else. uh those people that are now within the
Trump administration. Uh and of course, Hegsath has exonerated
the few very handful of people who have been uh prosecuted for war crimes, but talk
about the the the culture, the return of that culture and its
uh and those within the Trump administration who will empower it. So, my book is very critical of every US
president since 2001. Um, and I don't um stent on uh critiquing President Obama
or President Biden. However, I do see President Trump's role in his first term
as uniquely malignant uh on this culture and the trickle down effects of it have been just terrible because not only did
Trump loosen the rules of engagement that are applicable to special operations, but he also made it a big
part of his political persona um to hold up these accused war criminals, people like Eddie Gallagher who have been
turned in by his own teammates and ostracized by his own organization, the Navy Seals. But Trump elevated him and
made him out to be an American hero. Uh and also he k he just to interrupt he killed was
it a boy? Right. He killed a uh Gallagher. Eddie Gallagher killed a lot of people.
Eddie Gallagher was on drugs. Incidentally, he was taking as uh Dave Phillips of the New York Times reports in his excellent book Alpha on the Eddie
Gallagher trial. Um, uh, Eddie Gallagher was taking a lot of drugs just like, you know, the seals have a lot of the same
issues as the as the Green Berets. Uh, so he was popping Tramodol, which is an opiate painkiller. And, um, he, uh, was
on this deranged quest to beat Chris Kyle, another very toxic figure in this
story, who was, uh, you know, claimed to be the most lethal sniper in American history. So Eddie Gallery just wanted to
beat his kill count. um which is uh as his own teammates described him freaking
evil. Uh and in order to do this, he was just shooting and during the battle of Mosul in 2017 in Iraq, he was just
shooting anybody that came into his gun sites. This is according to his teammates. This is what they've alleged
publicly. He was shooting women, children, old men, people that were clearly unarmed. And then in the
incident you describe, he was caught on someone's body cam uh about to stab a teenage ISIS fighter in the neck who was
completely unconscious, incapable of resisting, unarmed. Um, and so his trial
was a three- ring circus in which President Trump personally intervened to have him uh well, he was exonerated by
the jury. I talk about the little tricks and behind the-scenes ways in which these trials tend to play out. You know,
when a special operator is accused of a crime, you'll often see and it proceeds to a trial, you'll often see that the
prosecutor in those cases is someone who has never tried a case before. That's a
pattern that that recurs, which is extraordinary, and it shows a lack of
intent to actually secure a conviction. In any case, in Gallagher's in Gallagher's case, he was acquitted of
the most serious charges. Um but um so that's a a great example of Trump's, you
know, the the cultural influence that Trump is having. And to bring it around to the the question that you asked about, you know, what's going on now
with Hexath and so forth, I think that it's fair to to to expect that in this
administration, we're going to see a further loosening of the rules around special operations. uh a further
increase in the impunity that these people enjoy uh and more of the sort of like paradical uh guys, you know, the
grungy motorcycle gang types coming to positions more prominence whereas, you
know, the sort of the sort of straightedged Titos, Warriors for God, we were talking about them earlier.
Those guys are going to be deemphasized and are going to get out of the military um because things are tending in in the
opposite direction towards towards lawlessness and murder that Trump and
Hegsth not only tolerate but actually openly celebrate.
You also write about Michael Waltz. You uh this is uh national Trump's national
security na national security adviserss. You call him a thuggish wararmonging
wararmongering dullard who holds the distinction of being the first green beret elected to Congress. Aside from
being the first former special forces officer to hold a seat in the House of Representatives, Mike Waltz was a
wealthy man. He made tens of millions of dollars running a private company that trains special operations units of the
drug trafficking Afghan army. Waltz, a passionate advocate for war in China,
China, has said that he expects the global war on terror to last a hundred years.
Yeah, Michael Waltz is a good example of the type of quote unquote leaders that are produced um by this organization,
the Army Special Forces. But I do I believe if I'm not mistaken, he was um
relieved of his uh position for being too openly subservient to Israel, which
is really extraordinary in the context of the Trump that that takes work in the Trump White House. [Laughter]
All right, Seth. It's a really great book and it's a great read. Um, I just cannot commend you enough as someone who
writes books and as a reporter. Um, yeah, it's just everyone should get it. Uh, the Fort Bragg Cartel. Uh, and I
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want to thank, uh, Max, Diego, Thomas, Sophia, uh, and Victor who produced the show.
You can find me at chrisedges.substack.com. substack.com. Thanks for having me, Chris. It was a pleasure.
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Spain EXPLODES! Israeli CONSULATE SET ABLAZE in Spain after IDF Drops 153-TON Bomb on Gaza!
Openminded Reporter
Oct 21, 2025 #OpenmindedThinkerShow #GazaGenocide #BoycottIsrael

Europe has had enough — from Italy to the UK, from Greece to Malta, the tide is turning against Israel’s toxic influence in sport and politics, and now Maccabi Tel Aviv, once Israel’s football pride, is being humiliated across the continent, banned fans, burning outrage, and a wave of disgust following every game, this isn’t just about football anymore it’s about justice and accountability for the crimes in Gaza, as nations reject the normalization of genocide on and off the pitch.

In this video we break down the shocking rise of protests against Maccabi Tel Aviv across Europe, from violent fan behavior in Amsterdam to mass boycotts in Italy and police bans in Birmingham, we expose how Israeli football has become a propaganda weapon for a regime accused of war crimes, and how leaders like Keir Starmer are failing miserably to uphold basic moral standards, while hiding behind political correctness and empty talk of antisemitism.

We connect the dots between Israel’s actions in Gaza and the growing European backlash that has forced UEFA to relocate games, cancel fixtures, and issue unprecedented warnings, with activists and football associations across Norway, Greece, and Malta saying no more, as Palestine calls for Israel’s suspension from FIFA just like Russia was banned after invading Ukraine.

Watch till the end to see how the hypocrisy of Western politics is unraveling, why Israeli teams can’t hide from accountability forever, and how this European revolt is reshaping the global sports landscape — football is no longer just a game when it’s soaked in the blood of Gaza’s children, this is a call for truth, justice, and moral courage



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That was what the 153 pound bombs looked
like in Gaza despite a ceasefire.
Continued violations by Israel have led
to the deaths of over 100 Palestinians.
These include people killed as a result
of their lack of awareness of the
boundaries demarcating the so-called
yellow line, only visible on military
maps. Others were killed directly by
Israeli fire in what it claimed was a
Gaza violation, which eventually turned
out to be a deliberate explosion by the
IDF itself so that it could attack Gaza.
[Music]
There were a total of 25 air strikes in
just 6 hours, making it an intense
aerial combat aimed principally from my
perspective at strike areas protected by
Gaza defenders which they had observed
following the lull in the ceasefire.
That was a classic one. Wanted criminal
Benjamin Netanyahu sacrificed the two
soldiers that died in order to carry out
his malicious strikes to destroy the
Gaza tunnel where Israeli prisoners of
war were detained. And to achieve this,
the IDF utilized a 153 pound bomb. And
that's the major kernel of my report
today.
After this announcement by the fugitive
criminals, Spain erupted in massive
righteous protests condemning the
Zionist regime's brutal and genocidal
onslaught in Gaza, peaking with a
nationwide general strike on October
15th, spearheaded by courageous labor
unions student activists who refused to
tolerate Israel's ongoing atrocities
amid a sham ceasefire that does nothing
to halt the slaughter. Tens of thousands
of outraged citizens flooded the streets
of Madrid, Barcelona, and Valencia,
echoing thunderous chants like, "Stop
everything to stop the genocide," while
demanding that the Spanish government
immediately cut all economic and
diplomatic ties with the apartheid
state, enforce crippling sanctions, and
open vital humanitarian aid routes to
aid the besieged Palestinians. In
Madrid, around 15,000 defiant youth
marched from Atosha to Puerto del Soul
and Barcelona swelled with up to 300,000
protesters by organizers counts,
grinding transportation, schools, and
public services to a halt in a bold act
of solidarity that exposes the world's
complicity in Israel's 2-year reign of
terror and its catastrophic toll on
innocent lives. Backed by over 200
unions, this strike rejects the fragile
truce as a mere facade, fiercely calling
for true accountability and a genuine
just peace that dismantles the
oppressive roots of Zionist aggression.
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for more. Today we take a crucial step
forward in calling for a two-state
solution at this conference. But let us
be lucidly clear. There is no solution
possible when the population of one of
those two states is the victim of a
genocide. We are all well aware that the
only hope that civilians in Gaza have is
that of knowing that the world does not
forget them. And this conference
nurtures that hope. It is an act of
moral rebellion and uprising against
indifference and forgetfulness. Let us
make this conference too a collective
commitment to haltering brutality and to
paving the way for peace. Excellence
excellencies, this conference marks a
monumental step forward, but it is not
the end of the road. It is it only is
and can only be the beginning. As such,
I want to make two proposals. First, the
state of Palestine must be a
fullyfledged member of the United
Nations. As soon as possible, we must
conclude the procedure to admit the
state of Palestine to this organization
on an equal footing with the rest of
states herein. Secondly, we have to
immediately adopt measures to halt the
brutality and make peace possible.
Spain,
of course, will adopt a plan with
measures to halt the genocide in Gaza.
We will continue to take brave measures
shoulder-to-shoulder with anyone who
wishes to join us because Gaza needs it.
Excellencies, history will judge us and
its verdict will be brutal with those
that perpetrated this slaughter and with
those who remain silent or turned a
blind eye.
Some breaking news to bring you now.
Nestle, who I'm sure you've heard of
because they make Kit Kat and Nest Cafe
and Nespresso and lots of other things,
has announced it's going to cut around
16,000 jobs globally over the next uh 2
years. Why does it matter here in the
UK? Because plenty of people in the UK
work at Nestle, make uh confectionary
and Halifax and lots of things in in
York and Gatwick's the HQ and cereals
are made in Wellin and in Ireland as
well. Dublin has an HQ as well. Govern
in Scotland makes confeure. A lot of
people work for Nestle here in the UK.
We don't know where these job cuts are
coming exactly, but some 16,000 jobs are
going globally. This is according to
Philip Navertil, who's Nestle's fairly
new chief executive, saying the world is
changing and Nestle needs to change
faster. And that is going to culminate
over the next two years in 16,000 jobs
going around the world, potentially in
the UK. We have no detail on that as
yet. That's going to make a lot of
people uh at those places Staverton
Wellin uh Ger and I mentioned Bramber on
the world as well rather nervous.
As if that weren't enough earlier this
month the Pedro Sanchez government
passed a law through the Spanish
Parliament imposing an arms embargo on
Israel. Spain has also been a leading
voice in preventing the wanted criminal
Netanyahu from traveling freely across
Europe on his way to the United States.
So the for the end goal, the actual
establishment of a Palestinian state
living side by side with a secure
Israel. To get that, you're going to
have to keep up the pressure on the
Israeli government. Justin Trudeau said
that Canada would honor the
International Criminal Court arrest
warrants, i.e. Benjamin Netanyahu would
be arrested if he came to Canada. Does
that stand under your leadership?
Yes.
You'd be prepared to do that?
Yes. Meanwhile, Candace Owens has issued
a warning to those who continue to
support Zionism.
Now, to be clear, I am consistent on all
matters. I do not want America involved
whatsoever in anything that is happening
in Israel. I don't want my dollars sent
over to Israel. We should not be
supporting Israel. Um, obviously, Thomas
Massie has done a lot of work showing
how it doesn't even make economic sense
that we have so much debt and yet we're
sending money over to support Israel.
And the biggest issue, by the way, that
I have with Israel and talking about
them being above reproach is the fact
that they are supplying the arms to
murder Christians, okay? In Armenia, the
oldest Christian country in the world.
And yet, nobody talks about that. For
whatever reason, it seems to be the
circumstance that when Jewish people die
in Israel, it's wall-to-wall coverage.
But when Christians die all over the
world, nobody talks about it. Everyone
wants to correlate everything to World
War II. Everyone wants to talk about
Adolf Hitler and the and rightfully so.
He was a horrific person, but nobody
wants to talk about Henrik Yagod, right?
Nobody wants to talk about the
Bolsheviks. Nobody wants to talk about
the Christian Holocaust. I am tired of
the media exhausted of the media not
speaking about what is happening to
Christians all around the world. And it
is especially horrific while at the
exact same time that it is happening,
the slaughter of Christians in Armenia,
the arms being supplied by Israel that
the media turns the other way and says,
"Oh, okay, but what about is what about
what's happening in Israel?" So, you
know what I'm asking for? Actual
equality. Okay? Because it seems like
this is like a special category, the
special relationship that we have. I'm a
Christian first. Okay? And so my
concerns are going to be with what's
happening to Christians all around the
world because it is us. We are the
number one most persecuted religion in
the world.
The fury has only intensified post
strike, boiling over into fierce clashes
that underscore an unbreakable resolve
against Israeli imperialism. As of
October 19th in Barcelona, explosive
confrontations ignited outside the
Israeli consulate where valiant masked
demonstrators struck at complicit
businesses backing the occupiers,
smashing stores, banks, and offices in a
raw outcry against the regime's support
network, resulting in arrests and police
repression with tear gas. Comparable
chaos erupted at a Euro Cup basketball
match featuring an Israeli team as
protesters pushed for boycots and
lambasted the barbaric savagery in Gaza,
ignoring union critiques and defying
backlash for persisting through
so-called peace overtures that mask
continued oppression. Throughout Spain,
this surging movement commands global
scrutiny with unbreakable vows from
activists that the fight endures until
the Zionist entity is held accountable,
fueling urgent worldwide demands to
combat what they rightly label as ethnic
cleansing, deliberate starvation, and
unyielding war crimes, even as token aid
trickles into the ravaged strip. Thank
you so much for getting to this side of
things. Remember to never forget to
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President Trump Participates in a Troop Visit and Remarks on the USS George Washington
The White House
Oct 28, 2025



Transcript

Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
♪ ("God bless the USA" by Lee Greenwood) ♪
The President: What a group, what a group, all champions.
(audience chanting "USA")
The President: Well, thank you very much. A big hello. This is a special group of Patriots, champions, winners.
You are winners, I'd love to have your job. I'd love to have your job.
And a very special hello to the greatest sailors anywhere in the seas, the incredible men and women of the United States Navy.
Very special people, thank you very much. It's a great honor. Great honor to be here.
But I'm thrilled to be here among thousands of proud American Patriots aboard the 100,000 tons.
That's a lot of tonnage. Forward deployed, symbol of American might power and prestige,
the legendary USS George Washington. This is some ship.
They don't make them this way anymore, but we're not supposed to say that, but they really don't.
This is great stuff. This is really an incredible GW, they call it
GW, right? And we've come this afternoon to celebrate the strength
and the skill and service of everyone on this ship. So, we're going to all relax. We're going to have a good time.
We're not going anywhere. If you go back to Washington, it's like two o'clock in the morning.
But I want to just tell you that you are special people, and we're going to have a little fun. And I'm going to tell you how great our country is
and how well we're doing. Because a year and a half ago we had a different country than we do right now. Now we're the most respected country in the world.
We're the hottest country anywhere in the world, and it hasn't taken too long. But I had no doubt,
I just didn't know we were going to do it this fast. We've done it fast because of people like you. So, I want to thank you very much
and I want to recognize a man that you all know well. And he's a tough cookie.
Was formerly our Secretary of Defense, but now he's proudly known as our Secretary of War,
Pete Hegseth.
And you know why I pay this, he gave up a hell of a job. They were going to pay millions of dollars.
They didn't want him to leave, that crazy fox didn't want him to leave, but he wanted.
Every time he'd go on that show, all he wanted to talk about is the military. And I said, "If I ever do this,
I'm going to bring this guy along with me. He knew more about it than anybody. He didn't want to be doing the other stuff." And he had a chance.
He could have so much money he wouldn't have known. He didn't want that. This is what you wanted, Pete. He's so happy now.
Those drug ships aren't coming in anymore. We can't find a ship. There's no ships coming in with drugs.
It's like he's been incredible. So thank you very much, Pete. You gave up a lot. We appreciate it. Thank you.
And unlike past administrations we will not be politically correct.
You don't mind that, do you? When it comes to defending the United States, we're no longer politically correct.
We're going to defend our country any way we have to. And that's usually not the politically correct way.
From now on, if we're in a war, we're going to win the war. We're going to win it like nobody ever before.
We'd go in, we'd blast the hell out of countries. Shouldn't have gone in. By the way, if you don't go in, that's even better.
We don't have to go in, peace through strength. But we'd go in, we'd win, and then we'd leave.
They used to say, "To the victor belong to spoils." Well, we'd be the victor that would leave, because we had people that didn't know
what the hell they were doing. But we're also very honored to be joined by hundreds of our incredible Japanese partners.
And they are incredible. Thank you very much.
This woman. That's right. This woman is a winner.
So, we've become very close friends all of a sudden, because their stock market today
and our stock market today hit an all time high.
That means we're doing something right. But the cherished alliance between the United States and Japan
is one of the most remarkable relationships in the entire world. Really, there's never been anything like it.
Born out of the ashes of a terrible war, our bond has grown over eight decades
into the beautiful friendship that we have. It's a foundation of peace and security in the Pacific.
You see it? So, on behalf of all American sailors stationed in this beautiful country,
let's hear it for our allies and the Japanese self-defense forces and all of the Japanese people that we love and respect.
And I have such respect for Japan and the country. And now I have a really great respect for the new and incredible prime minister.
And I have to say this, the first female prime minister in the history of Japan,
Madam Prime Minister, please, say a few words.
Madam Prime Minister: Thank you, Mr. President, and thank you all.
This year marks the. U.S. Navy's semi-queen centennial anniversary.
As we celebrate the important milestone, I'm truly honored to have this opportunity
to deliver remarks with President Trump aboard the aircraft carrier USS George Washington,
a symbol of protecting freedom and peace in this region.
First and foremost, I would like to express my deep respect and sincere gratitude to all the men and women in uniform.
From Japan's Self-Defense forces and the U.S. forces Japan for your dedication
and commitment to safeguard peace and security of our nation and the region, day and night.
Six years ago, at this same place here in Yokosuka City,
the late Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and President Trump stood side by side
and demonstrated their resolve that Japan and the United States would join hands
to ensure peace and security in this region.
Now, as the two Commanders-in-Chief of Japan and the United States stand together once again,
I have renewed my determination to carry forward that resolve, and to make the Indo-Pacific free and open
so that it will serve as the foundation of peace and prosperity for the entire region.
Now we are facing an unprecedented severe security environment.
Peace cannot be preserved by words alone. It can be protected only when there is
an unwavering determination and action.
From where we stand, we can see Maritime Self-Defense Forces Mogami and Maya.
Vessels of Japan's Maritime Self-Defense force and USS George Washington
have conducted numerous joint exercises. Just as importantly, there are so many Japanese
and American personnel working for logistics and maintenance here in Yokosuka.
And there's also a strong sense of bond with the local community here.
Those are what have been supporting the activities of the U.S. Navy over the years.
There's no doubt that such multi-layered Japan- U.S. cooperation is what makes this possible for us
to ensure the credibility of our two nations' deterrence and response capabilities.
Let me reiterate my unwavering determination here. Japan is committed to fundamentally reinforce
its defense capabilities, and Japan is ready to contribute even more proactively to peace and stability of the region.
Through these efforts together with President Trump, I am determined to elevate the Japan-U. S.
Alliance, which has already become the greatest alliance in the world to even greater, greater heights.
Japan and the United States will advance together with our sails raised high across a free and open sea.
And I am very confident that the sea route from Yokosuka will make our bond even stronger and stronger,
and bring our two nations on the path to a shining future.
Thank you. (applause)
The President: Thank you very much. And we will have a long, good relationship,
and we'll have fun doing it. You have to have fun, although sometimes it's never fun. She's tough to negotiate with, I want to tell you.
But I'm delighted to report that I've just approved the first batch of missiles.
You saw a couple of them coming down with me. I hugged them. We need them. They're the best in the world.
Nobody has them like we have them. They all want our missiles. That's the problem. Everybody wants them, but it's the first batch of missiles
to be delivered to the Japanese Self-Defense Forces for Japan's F-35s,
and they're coming this week, so they're ahead of schedule. I just want to tell Madam Prime Minister,
they've been waiting for those missiles and we got them here right away, as soon as I heard about it. I want to thank Former Senator, a great gentleman, by the way.
He was so popular, but I took him out and I made him Secretary of State. I think he was born for it, Marco Rubio.
Thank you very much, Marco. Where are you, Marco? Great job. Great job. He was born for it.
Ambassador George Glass. Thank you very much, George. Good job you're doing. Thank you.
And many of our outstanding uniform leaders with us today, including the head of the Indo-Pacific Command,
Admiral Samuel Paparo. Where is Samuel? Hello. Good, but he's a good-looking people.
You could make a movie with these guys. They're like central -- Look at this group of people.
Commander of the U.S. Forces, Japan General Stephen Jost. Thank you, Stephen. Thank you very much.
The commander of the seventh -- Oh, that's a big deal. Do you want to switch jobs for one week?
Only for one week. All right. Seventh Fleet, big stuff, Vice Admiral Fred Kacher.
Fred, thank you very much. Thanks Greg. And the commander of Carrier Strike Group
Five, Rear Admiral, Eric "Pappy" Anduze.
Hello Pappy. That's great. Good. Thank you very much.
And of course, we can't forget about your command triad aboard the George Washington. There's nothing like this one.
This is a beauty and I hear your commanding officer's a big Alabama football fan. I love Alabama. I love Alabama. Captain Timothy
Waits and let me just say roll tide. I love Alabama. Roll tide.
Where's Timothy? Where's Timothy? That was a hell of a game this week.
I don't know how hell you pull that one out. If you didn't win, I wouldn't have mentioned it. I would've just introduced you. But you came back from oblivion.
Isn't it nice coming back? Coming back is good. Thanks as well to your Exo Captain Patrick
Blind. Where is he? Patrick. Patrick, thank you. Highly respected person.
All of these people are the best. Look at them. You look at them, they could have any job they wanted.
They could walk down to Wall Street, make a fortune. They wouldn't do that. They like what they're doing and nobody does it better as well as really
one of the most important people on the ship. Have you ever heard of Command Master Chief
Tony Roberts? Have you ever heard of him?
Wherever you are. Where's Tony? Thank you.
Thank you, Tony. He's a popular guy. And as many of you know, this month we're celebrating
a truly momentous anniversary, 250 years of courage and pride, honor and victory
by the United States Navy. 250 years, can you imagine?
And three weeks ago, Melania and I flew to Naval Station, Norfolk, I think many of you probably know that,
and witnessed an unforgettable display of pure American dominance, I'd say.
It was incredible to watch. They gave us some -- Then I said, "Slow it down. It costs a lot of money. Let's save it. Let's relax a little bit."
They gave us some great display from the thunderous roar of the guided missile, destroyers.
Never saw anything like it to the spectacular side of nuclear submarines all over the place, to the unstoppable force
of another great American aircraft carrier. One thing was clear that no enemy
will ever even dream of threatening America's Navy. There's no Navy even close, not even close.
You hear about some of them doing ships, but nobody can do what we do. Nobody has what we have and we also have the best equipment
that rides along in those ships. You see that? Nobody makes equipment like we do.
Nobody makes the ammunition, the weapons, the missiles, the planes, none of it. And if they do,
the American sailor stands ready to crush them and sink them and wreck them and blast them into oblivion.
And that's a terrible statement for me to make. That's the end of it because everybody said that I should immediately get the Nobel Peace Award.
With that statement, that takes me out of the running, but that's the way it is.
United States is blessed with the strongest and most powerful military in the history of the world.
There's no military like our military, not even close. Nobody has our weapons and it'll be stronger
and more powerful than ever before very soon. We just approved the biggest budget in the history,
over a trillion dollars, over a trillion dollars. We have the best ships, the best airplanes,
the best submarines, the best technology, but above all, we have America's military, it's the best people.
It's all about the people, ultimately. You have to work all of that fancy stuff that we make better than anybody else.
The fact is, we do make best weapons, but if you don't have the right people to operate those weapons,
they don't mean much. Despite that, as commander-in-chief, I never forget that our ultimate strength
does not come from equipment, it comes from the men and women of the rank and file.
That's true. It comes from you people, incredible people, good-looking people, too many good-looking people.
I don't like good-looking people. I never liked good-looking people, I'll be honest with you.
I've never admitted that before. But see, I'm allowed to -- See, we wanted the Supreme Court to think based on merit.
You know about that, right? Merit. Everything now in our country is based on merit
and that's why I look at you and I see nothing but merit. It's great to have a country back
where we can go by merit now, we don't go by anything else except for talent and work and hard work
and it's such a big win. That was such one of the most important wins and the will, patriotism and spirit in your hearts
is our single greatest weapon. The strength that you have is unbelievable. That's why as we make a record investment in our military,
we've never spent so much and we've never spent it more wisely because now we watch it, we spend it properly.
I'm also supporting an across the board pay raise for every sailor and service member in the United States Armed forces.
Now, if you don't want it, you want to give back to your country, just let us know, we won't give it to you.
Is there anybody in that category? But now all we really have to do is get the Democrats
to approve it, but they'll come along. They always do. They always do.
And because they heard that the sailors on the George Washington took a hit to your family separation pay.
You know what I'm talking about, right? You took a little hit to be here. By returning to the port,
you returned early for this event. I am delighted to announce that as your -- It's not a boss.
I don't feel like your boss, but I guess I am. At least you'll be happy about this one, my direction,
we're going to make sure that you received the full amount that you were owed for the deployment.
And we're not going to deduct anything because you came in to listen to your commander.
I'd like to be an admiral. I always wanted to be an admiral, to be honest. Don't tell the people that I love so much.
They sit around the table, they have all those beautiful stars and stripes. But I'll tell you what I love, I always love the admirals.
I love those uniforms and I look at these guys. I don't think I would've done very well if I had to compete with these people, they're too good.
But I always felt that the Navy is a very special group of people and I see it when I see you, I see it.
Over the past 11 months, the spirit of our military has been soaring like never before you, you know that.
The spirit of our country has been soaring. After years of recruiting shortages and we had bad ones,
it was embarrassing frankly. During my campaign, before the election, November 5th, after that, it all changed.
After we won, it all changed. And now we have waiting lists with record numbers,
trying to join the U.S. Navy. In all of the Armed Forces we have literal waiting lists, and I'm pleased to report that 2025
was the Navy's single best recruiting year in many generations. That's pretty good, isn't it?
But think of it, it seems like I've been up here so long and it seems like I've been doing this for a long time
and we had a great first term, but nothing like what's happening now.
We have the greatest economy in the history of our country. I rebuilt the military in the first term and then they gave a lot of it away to Afghanistan,
but it was really just a tiny speck. But it was the concept of what it was. But we rebuilt the military
and we did so many things in the first term, but we're blowing it away right now. But think of it, just one year ago
I was in the middle of a campaign. Can you believe that? It doesn't feel that way. I said, you're right, it's not November 5th yet.
We have another week or so to go. I was campaigning one year ago
and look at all the things that we've done since this unbelievable day, November 5th.
That's when it all changed. When we won on November 5th, it all changed. And we went from a country that wasn't respected
and a lot of people that had no spirit, that includes joining the police, the fire departments, they didn't want to join.
After that, they started joining. And it seems like 10 years ago, not less than a year.
Think of it, less than a year ago I was campaigning. We won the second election by a lot,
so we had to just prove it by winning the third by too big to rig, I called it. It was too big to rig. And it was an amazing victory.
And thank goodness we won because we were in big trouble. We were in big, big trouble.
But the new recruits, every sailor aboard this ship has answered a sacred call of duty to cross any ocean,
fight any battle, and defend America and its allies with unwavering resolve.
As you know, the George Washington is the only aircraft carrier on earth that is permanently stationed overseas. It's permanent.
Now, if you'd like to take a trip back to America -- Let's do it one time. I'll join you.
I'd love to join you. When I landed on this, it doesn't feel like a ship, it's solid.
This is a solid piece of stuff. These 4.5 acres of power and steel
are the front line of American freedom in the Pacific. Every day you're taking risk to keep our country safe
and to defend peace and security in this incredible part of the world, working with Japan, working with other nations.
I just left Malaysia. We stopped a big war with -- You know that.
We stopped eight wars. Can you imagine? In eight months I stopped eight wars.
I stopped a war month. Think of that. That's pretty good. But I just left Malaysia to thank them
because they helped us very much with one of them. And actually for even a second, they're great people.
And they send their regards. I spent a day there with the Prime Minister and we had a good time. But you carry out your mission bravely.
You carry it out brilliantly and on behalf of all Americans, I just want to say, and I came over to say it loud and clear,
thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.
Incredible people. You are incredible people.
They actually have the best location. Because if they're really good- looking, they end up in Hollywood. You have a great look,
but you're not going to end in Hollywood. They can just see the back of your head. All the media, look at all the fake news back there.
But two years ago, Naval Air Crewman 3rd Class, James McCall was just a few months
into his first fleet tour with the Golden Falcons Helicopter Squadron
when he and his crew were called on a search-and-rescue mission to find three missing navy divers.
Incredible, brave guys the divers. But they were stranded at sea
and right off the Japanese coast, they were exhausted and assuming they were going to die. They assumed they were going to die.
But with unbelievable focus and skill, Crewman McCall was able to find and help rescue
all three divers in the water below saving his fellow sailors. And James is with us today as a shipmate on this carrier,
Crewman McCall. Thank you very much for your incredible bravery and we salute you. Where is James?
Where are you James? Whoa. Come up James. Get up here, James. Come here. Come up here.
Look at this guy. He's a good-looking guy. Get out of here, James, I don't want you up here. No, come here, James.
James McCall: Nice to meet you. The President: You want to say something? Come on.
James McCall: I just want to say I appreciate all my fellow shipmates. What I did back then in Iwakuni,
it was heartbreaking for losing those loved ones down there. But we brought some back whenever we went down there.
And just God bless America and all my fellow shipmates. Appreciate it. And stay a bad, Larry.
The President: I was wondering maybe -- He almost stayed up -- He could have been up here for a while. You did that very well.
He's going to be running for office next week, you watch. Great job, James. A lot of bravery too.
But as James' story reminds us, the Navy is a family and a team, and each of you has a vital role to play.
Gathered here this afternoon are some of those whose toil and sweat gets our magnificent planes in the air
and brings them safely back home. And we have the shooters and the gear dogs
and the paddles and the white shirts, and of course the blue shirts, the yellow shirts,
the red shirts on the flight deck, and all over the hangar bay, I want to thank you all.
Your incredible people. I saw some of you there. We're rushing to get down here and they want to take pictures up there.
They're very aggressive people, "Sir, can I have a picture?" They're -- you're supposed to be standing in attention.
"Sir, could I have a picture, sir?" Yeah. You know what I'm talking about, right?
Very aggressive, but I think they're great. We also have a real geniuses. And these people are incredible,
who maintain the largest and most complex machine ever built, our amazing mechanics and engineers on the --
And I asked you, Captain. I'm building the aircraft, I'm building a lot of things, but I said, "Captain, you're going to tell me something.
I know a lot about these ships, I know a lot about these things building, I want to know, catapults, which is better, the electric or the steam?"
Audience: Steam. The President: Okay, ready? You guys, that's what you do, right?
This is so much better. They go out hire a consultant for millions of dollars that was never on an aircraft carrier before,
so they switched to electric. I disagree with it, but it's all right. Let me ask you. We're going to go steam first and then electric.
Catapults, which is better, electric, or steam?
Audience: Steam. The President: I'm going to put in an order. Seriously, they're spending billions of dollars
to build stupid electric. And the problem when it breaks, you have to send up to MIT,
get the most brilliant people in the world, fly them out. That's ridiculous. The steam, they say they can fix it
with a hammer and a blowtorch, and it works just as well, if not better.
And I love the sight of that beautiful steam pouring off that deck. With the electric, you don't have that.
So we did the Ford in electric, the cost overruns, everything else, but I hope it's going to be okay, but I like steam.
We're going to go back to steam. They changed just for the sake of changing. I said to the architect,
"Have you ever designed a ship before? You only did the biggest ship in the world, right, the Ford?
But we're going to go back." Now, let me ask you the second question, hydraulic for your elevators, or magnets?
The new thing is magnets. So instead of using hydraulic, you can be hit by lightning and it's fine.
You take a little glass of water and you drop it on magnets, I don't know what's going to happen. So the elevators come up in the new carriers.
I think I'm going to change it, by the way. They have magnets. Every tractor has hydraulic, every excavator,
every excavating machine, if any kind has hydraulic, but somebody decided to use magnets for your --
But maybe they're good. Which is better, hydraulic, or magnets?
What the hell is wrong with these people? Can I ask you, the top ranking gentleman right here?
Seriously, I'm putting out an order. I'm going to sign an executive order. When we build aircraft carriers, it's steam for the catapults
and it's hydraulic for the elevators. We'll never have a problem, okay? Male Speaker: Aye aye, sir.
The President: Do you agree? He agrees, everybody agrees, but these people in Washington,
all right, we're going to do that. I'm serious about it. It bothered me so much. I see the costs come in, they spend 900 --
This is not on my watch. So if it was on my watch, I would be very quiet about it. I wouldn't be talking about it. They spent $993 million
on the catapults trying to get them to work, and they had steam, which works so beautifully
and it has for 50 years, right? So we're going to go back. Seriously fellas, I want to make that change. I'm going to do an executive order.
I'm not going to let them continue to do this now. They're trying to make it work. They're trying so hard and they have something that's perfect.
So we're going to go back on that and the magnets, thank you very much. And, of course, we cannot forget the daredevils
and the pilots of the famed Carrier Air Wing Five known as Team Badmen. What the hell is that all about?
Who are they? They're bad. The elite air units aboard
this vessel are storied squadrons like the Royal Maces,
the Diamondback, the Argonauts, the Chippies,
the Titans, the Tiger Tails, the Shadowhawks and the Saberhawks.
All great brave people. They're all incredible. You're all incredible people. Do you know, they say, and I love it, I love aviation.
I actually had a brother who was a pilot. And see, Biden used to say he was a pilot. He was a pilot, he was a truck driver,
whatever, whoever walked in. He wasn't a pilot. He wasn't much of a precedent either, to be honest with you, that I can tell you.
That we all know. But they say the hardest thing to do is landing a plane on an aircraft carrier.
You ever hear that? And great pilots can do everything. They're great pilots, but they can't do that.
It's a very special talent. So the people that do that, that are in this room,
you're a very small group of people. Tremendously talented pilots cannot do it
for a lot of reasons. There are a lot of reasons, a lot of it is right up here. So I have great respect.
The hardest thing you can do is a pilot is land. This ship is so big, but when you're up there in the Pacific with the Atlantic
and the waves are crashing and it's getting dark or it is dark, which is even worse, getting dark is better.
But when you're up there they say it looks like a little needle in the ocean. It's just a very little thing and you're landing on top.
So I have great respect when I see them land. Three weeks, ago they were landing and doing it beautifully.
They had very, very, talented people and nobody embodies skill and nerve and swagger
and the attitude like a US naval aviator, so I have great respect for you all.
Thank you very much. It's one of the reasons I'm here.
That's why I'm here, not someone else. I didn't need this. I didn't need the whole damn job.
I could have been doing. I could've had a nice -- I had such a beautiful life. But you know what?
We're making America greater than ever before and that's why I'm doing it. And we are doing numbers that nobody's ever seen.
Nobody ever even thought possibly before. Think of it, a year ago, we were a dead country.
We're like a dead country and now we have the hottest country anywhere in the world. There's nobody even close.
It's pretty amazing, I'll tell you. None of it would be possible. All of these things that we're doing,
all of the respect that we have, it's really because of people like yourself and the armed forces generally.
It's amazing the job that you all do. None of it would've been possible.
And all of those important missions in the Navy, the devoted members of the food service division
serving up to 14,000 meals every single day. How's the food, good? They say it's good. Is it good?
I hope it's good. It's probably my kind of food. I like that kind of food,
but they don't get the credit they deserve. I want to just thank them very much and congratulate, 14,000 meals.
Let's also hear it for all the sailors holding the American flag high at CFAY
as well as the crews from the ferocious, DESRON 15. DESRON 15.
But together, the sailors here today give your very best to our nation.
And as your Commander-in-Chief, I'm fighting every single day to ensure that we give you our very best also.
We do. We're giving you everything. We're giving you more than anybody's ever given. We're bringing it up to a standard that nobody's ever seen before.
We're starting to make ships also. Part of our deal with the trade is we're starting to make ships. We used to be number one at making ships
and then we lost our way, but now we're starting to make ships again and we'll do it very soon.
It's not going to take that long. But it's a process. It's not like making a bullet.
It's that big long process. We've got it going though, I think, in the right direction. I think within a short period of time,
the Philadelphia yards as an example, is now owned by a group that's going to be making a lot of ships,
a good group of people. And we're going to be working also with Japan on making ships.
We're going to make a lot of ships again. We used to make -- Think of it, we were number one. And then over the years, they just lost their way.
They started making other things, they stopped making ships. We're going to be making ships again. We've more than, think of this, $17 trillion, trillion with a T,
pouring into the United States of America from all over the world. And that's the biggest number in the history of any country.
And this is in eight months, really. We're here nine, but this is in eight months, over $17 trillion.
As an example, the last administration did less than a trillion in four years. We did 17, more than 17 trillion in eight months.
And I think by the time we finish up our first year, we're going to be over $20 or $21 trillion of money coming into our country.
And I want to thank Japan, because Japan is making big investments into the United States. And they're very happy because the stock market
has gone up very nicely. We've made Japan a lot of money. That's okay, but they're a big investor in our country
and we like that. But think of those numbers we weren't doing anywhere near. We were laughed at,
and now they're all saying they've never seen anything like what's happened in such a short period of time.
And I was just told by the prime minister that Toyota is going to be putting auto plants all over the United States
to the tune of over $10 billion. So that's Toyota. So go out and buy a Toyota.
And that's a lot to do with, because right now, we have all the AI plants. We have so many things happening in the United States,
and it's because of November 5th election day, but it's also because of tariffs. The tariffs have been so good.
We're taken in trillions and trillions of dollars. I heard them before I came up, I heard --
You're all on television now. They're talking all the networks, everybody is covering it. Look at these characters back. Look at all of them.
And they were talking about the tariffs. The tariffs have -- Nobody understood tariffs like I understood tariffs.
And the tariffs are having people go into our country and spend tremendous numbers like we've never seen.
And that brings jobs with it. It brings jobs, it brings importance, it brings everything. It brings a strong military.
It brings a lot of things to other countries. I mean, if you look at some of the deals that we did, if India is going to go to war with Pakistan,
and as you go to war, we're not going to do any trade. I was going to put big tariffs on both countries.
And they said, "Well, I guess we're not going to go to war." Two nuclear powers, we stopped it, but we stopped a lot of wars. Without tariffs,
we wouldn't have national security like we have, but we've never had national security like we have it right now. And literally a year ago,
you had very little national security. You had people that didn't have a clue.
American strength is roaring back like never before. And with your help, America is respected once more
and it is respected at levels that we haven't seen before. On my first day back in the White House,
I deployed the men and women of the United States military to stop the invasion on our Southern border.
It was an invasion losing hundreds of thousands of people to fentanyl, into drugs.
And now, we have the most secure border in American history. For five months, they said zero,
no people came into our country illegally. They came in through a legal process,
but nobody came in through the Southern border. Can you imagine? Even I can't. It's hard to believe that.
And we do have it tight as a drum, but that's what we have to have. If you don't have borders, if you don't have a fair media, you need certain things.
You need a good fair media. They're getting better. They're not there yet, that I can tell you, but they're getting better.
But you need borders, you got to have borders in a country or you don't have a country. And now we have a border
the likes of which this country has never seen before. And people respect us for it.
With the help of our warfighters, we're decimating the savage drug cartels that poison our people.
200,000 people, maybe more than that, died last year because of what came into our country
through an open border policy where 25 million people poured into our country.
Totally unvetted, totally unchecked. They came from prisons. They came from mental institutions and insane asylum.
They were drug dealers. They were bad people. 11,388 were murderers,
half of which committed more than one murder. They let them into our country. We're getting them the hell out. We're getting them out. We're getting them out fast.
Is that okay with you? Yes, right? I have no doubt. Got to get them out. Just an unforced era.
And we're also straightening out our cities. Washington D.C., our beautiful capitol was a killing mess.
People getting killed all the time. It was very high crime. And we sent in our National Guard, again, great people.
I don't say that we're totally politically correct, that's okay. And now, it's very safe.
Now, it's considered a very safe. It took 12 days, we got 1,700 people, career criminals,
many of which came in through Biden's open border, and they infiltrated our nation's capital
and we had a very unsafe capital. But for years before that, it was very unsafe. Now, it's as safe as there is anywhere in the country.
You can have your daughter, your girlfriend, your wife, your boyfriend, walk right in through the middle,
nobody's going to touch him. The crime is down to almost nothing. It's a whole different ballgame. It took literally 12 days,
but let's give us a month to do it, really. We had it drum tight and it's a beautiful thing.
And our people in the service and -- People don't care. If we send in our military,
if we send in our National Guard, if we send in Space Command,
they don't care who the hell it is, they just want to be safe. And we have safe cities. Now, we're starting in Memphis.
And Memphis was a disaster. They've been there for two weeks and it's a whole different series.
Crime is less than half, and within a month it'll be gone. Getting rid of all the bad ones there. We're going to go into Chicago,
we're going to go into our cities, we're going to clean them out, we're going to straighten them out, and we're going to have safe cities,
because you want to protect safe cities. We're going to have beautiful safe cities. And it's happening very quickly and very easily, actually.
It's easy for us, it's hard for them. And we have to have a little more help. It doesn't matter really. We could do as we want to do,
but it would be nice to have more help from some of the Democrat governors that don't mind in Chicago.
Two weeks ago, four people murdered. 11 people shot. This weekend, it was terrible.
Much worse than that. And then we have a governor that stands up and says, "Oh, it's wonderful." It's not wonderful.
And what we're doing is we're going to make it totally safe. It'll be very safe very soon, and we're doing that with all of our cities that are troubled.
We have cities that are troubled. We can't have cities that are troubled and we're sending in our National Guard.
And if we need more than the National Guard. We'll send more than the National Guard because we're going to have safe cities.
We're not going to have people killed in our cities. And whether people like that or not, that's what we're doing.
And you've been watching what our missiles do to boats and ships and submarines. How about the submarine?
They said no, that was just fishing. The radical left Democrats said, "Well, it was a submarine, but they were just fishing."
Submarines don't go fishing, do they? You know more about submarines than I do; you have a beauty parked outside, actually.
This is a submarine. And you know what? It was designed for transporting drugs, and it got hit.
But each one of those vessels that we hit kill, on average, 25,000 people, American people, every single year they kill --
Each one of them kill 25,000 people. So we have to stop it, and we have stopped it.
And I want to thank Pete for having the courage to do it. And believe me, people are very honored that you do it.
25,000 people for each boat. For many years, the drug cartels have waged war in America,
and at long last, we're finally waging war on the cartels. We're waging war like they've never seen before.
And we're going to win that battle. We're winning it already. The sea -- I mean, the only problem is nobody wants to go into the sea anymore.
Even the fishing boats, they say, "Let's take a pass." But they don't want that. But we're knocking them out one by one,
and very importantly, we've almost stopped completely the drugs coming in by sea,
and now we'll stop the drugs coming in by land. That's going to be very easy. More importantly, we're ending wars;
we're ending wars all over this planet. And as you know, as I said before, I ended eight wars in eight months.
The most of any president in history, no president that we know has ever ended any war. A lot of them go into wars,
but this includes Kosovo and Serbia, the Congo and Rwanda, Pakistan and India,
Israel and Iran. You saw that. How about those B-2 bombers? They went in there, they took out that nuclear capability.
Iran would've had a nuclear weapon within two months, not anymore. Egypt and Ethiopia,
Armenia and Azerbaijan--that was going on for 35 years. Big, horrible war. And just this month
we ended the war in Gaza in the Middle East. We ended the war in the Middle East; nobody thought it was possible.
And we also just signed a deal in Malaysia between a war that was just starting.
Cambodia and Thailand. So we saved millions and millions of lives, and I did it mostly verbally;
we didn't have to get you involved. When we don't get you involved, that's a good thing. We don't want you to get involved.
If I can avoid you getting involved, if I have an ability to do things that maybe other people don't, or we see things,
but we stopped a lot of those wars based on trade and tariffs and penalties,
and they're getting all ready to fight, and then we tell them, "No more trading with the United States.
We're putting tariffs on your nation, et cetera, et cetera." It's called national security for us, but it's really national security for the whole world.
And everywhere we go, America is actually making peace, and it's peace through strength. When they look at this,
when they look at you people, they say, "We're not going to mess around with them." So it's very important. After years of crippling inflation.
Back home, we had the worst inflation in the history of our country; energy costs are down. You know, energy costs are way down,
gasoline prices are way down, grocery prices are way down.
We have a little problem with beef; we're going to get that down very quickly. But the prices are way down. Mortgage rates are down
despite having an incompetent head of the Fed. I call him too late. He's always too late.
He's too late in lowering interest rates. I call him Jerome Too Late Powell. But despite having a totally grossly incompetent guy --
We just blow through it because we're doing so well. Inflation has been defeated, and workers' wages are rising
at the fastest pace in 60 years. And that includes your wages. They're rising at the fastest pace.
The workers--I'm not talking about the rich people. Rich people -- Everyone is doing well. Everyone in our country is now doing well.
My first term, we built the greatest economy in the history of the world. We had an economy like nobody has seen before.
Now we are doing it again, but this time actually it's going to be much bigger and much stronger.
I told you $17 trillion, but it's going to be $20, $21 trillion. And that's numbers that have never been heard of before.
Much bigger than any other country in the world by literally $15, $16 trillion. It's amazing.
The sailors and the ship sacrifice so much for our country and the president. And I will tell you,
the president standing right up here loves you. I respect you, and I love you. And I'm giving everything.
I have to make sure that when you get home, you find an America that is safe and proud
and sovereign and free. One service member who reminds us that we're working for you and for everybody
and for our country is Chief Warrant Officer Will Hightower, who serves on the George Washington
in the all-important deck department. Do you know what the deck department is? I have no idea, but they do.
In April 2024, Will sailed away from Norfolk, leaving behind his wonderful wife,
Megan, their precious six-year-old daughter, and their one-year-old son. In the past 12 months,
he has only been home for three weeks total. Three weeks, an enormous sacrifice,
very tough on the family, but an experience everyone on the ship really knows very well. In February Will's tour will come to an end,
and he will finally be going home just in time for his daughter's birthday.
So Will, I want to thank you together with all of those people that go through the same thing. I want to really thank -- Where is Will?
Is Will around here? Where is Will? Wow, look at him. These are good-looking people here.
That's great, Will. How does it feel? Good. Will Hightower: It feels amazing, Mr. President. The President: That's great. It feels amazing. That's fantastic. That's fantastic.
See, in the old days I'd say, "Does your wife still love you?" But I don't do that anymore. "Does your wife still love you?"
Yes. Will Hightower: Yes. The President: Do you still love your wife? Will Hightower: Every day. The President: Every day. That's good. Okay, that's good. So that's good. Beautiful.
And say hello to your daughter, right, and your wife. And just in conclusion, every sailor here today
inherits a legacy of valor and grit and glory unmatched in the long history of mankind's voyage on the seas.
It's a voyage like nobody's ever had, like you have. For two and a half centuries, America's navy has preserved
the vision of our first commander in chief, who gave this ship its storied name,
its righteous soul, and its timeless motto. "First in war, first in peace."
Very famous phrase, George Washington. After 250 years, that is exactly what our country is today.
It's first in war, first in peace, first in wealth, first in power, first in science,
first in spirit, and first in freedom. And we went through four bad years, but now America will always be first again.
If you have the right person up here, if you have somebody that understands a lot of different subjects,
we're going to be bigger, better, stronger, and more important, really frankly, to the world.
Japan respects us. If you see what's going on all over the world, they're respecting us again.
They respect us like never before. The treatment they give me all over as I go around to different countries is great,
but it's really a respect for me. But it's a bigger respect for our country; they respect our country again.
They didn't respect our country just a few years ago. From Boston Harbor to Hampton Roads
and from the Caribbean Sea to the Red Sea, from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the Persian Gulf
to what is now known as the Gulf of America.
Isn't it nice they say it now routinely? I heard the news today: "The Gulf of America weather is wonderful."
They don't say it with a smile; it's called the Gulf of America. How did that happen, right? For many years, I said, "
Why is it called the Gulf of Mexico when we seem to have the shore?" Well, we do. We have 92% of the shoreline.
So I said, "You know, when we make it back --" Not if, when, too big to rig; we made it too big to rig.
I said, "Get out and vote too big to rig." Make it that way. I said, "I'm going to change it."
And one of the first things I did is I changed it; nobody could even fight it. They tried, we got sued all over the place.
We won every suit, and it's now officially the Gulf of America. Isn't that nice?
But our sailors have written honor, greatness, and triumph into the pages of history.
What you're doing is incredible, and it's an incredible time for our country. On gun decks and flight decks and torpedo rooms and cockpits,
the men and women of the navy have poured out their blood and sweat and tears to defend the land of the free and the home of the brave.
They've crossed icy channels, leapt from burning records, stormed into frigid waters, soared into deadly skies,
and laid down their lives to ensure the survival of liberty.
Now all of us here today carry on that noble mission. And no matter what challenge comes our way,
no matter what danger we face, we hoist our great American flag very, very high.
We race into the waves, and we rally to that immortal battle cry of the American sailor.
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead," right? Together with our incredible Japanese allies
and all of our allies all over the world. We stand strong, we stand proud, we will stand taller than we've ever stood before,
and we will be freer and braver and more brilliant than ever before. And we will fight, fight, fight. And we will win, win, win.
And I want to thank everybody at the USS George Washington and the U.S. Forces Japan.
God bless our military. God bless Japan. God bless the United States of America,
and God bless our navy. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. (cheers and applause)
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CHAOS in Cyprus! Israeli Ships SET ABLAZE as Revolt EXPLODES Against Netanyahu’s Expansion!
Openminded Reporter
Nov 1, 2025 #Cyprus #Israel #Netanyahu

The streets of Cyprus are erupting as furious protesters rise against Israel’s creeping expansion and secret land grabs, with Israeli ships reportedly set ablaze in a wave of anti-colonial anger that has left Netanyahu’s regime in shock; what started as a real estate scandal has exploded into a full-blown revolt — a direct challenge to Israel’s attempts to dominate the Mediterranean and use Cyprus as its next pawn; Cypriots have had enough, and the fire is spreading fast.

In this video, we break down the hidden ties between Israel and Cyprus, the secret land deals, the influence operations, and how the same pattern of occupation that destroyed Palestine is now unfolding in the Eastern Mediterranean; we also explore the explosive court case against Israeli developer Shimon Aykut, the leaked “Poseidon’s Wrath” plan revealing Israel’s military ambitions, and how the youth of Cyprus have reignited resistance; this revolt isn’t just about ships — it’s about sovereignty, survival, and saying NO to occupation.



Transcript

The war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu is
reeling in disbelief as Cyprus, once
seen as a silent partner, now turns
against him and his colonial schemes.
The island erupting in fury and defiance
as protests sweep through its streets,
shaking the Israeli establishment to its
core. This isn't just politics. It's a
reckoning, a long overdue rejection of
the creeping expansionism that has
defined Israel's strategy in the region
for decades. Reports from across Cyprus
describe a wave of outrage so intense
that authorities have been forced to
limit relations with Israel, freeze
weapon transfers, and arrest criminal
agents of the occupation court, trying
to buy up vast swaths of criate land
under the guise of real estate
investment. The goal was simple. turns
Cyprus into another outpost, another
vassal of apartheid Israel, another pawn
in a colonial chess game that has run
for too long.

General of the leftwing Ael party,
Stefano Stefanu has said that Israeli
investors are buying up coastal land and
are building what he called Zionist
schools and synagogues. He claimed that
parts of Cyprus are turning into gated
ghettos.

The Israeli historian Elon Pappe argues that Israel is imploding. He defines the current far-right government of Benjamin Netanyahu as neozionist, meaning that the old values of Zionism have become more extreme, more openly racist, more supremacist, and more violent. This neozionist state has abandoned the incremental approach to slow motion ethnic cleansing of Palestinians which characterized past Zionist governments. It is using genocide as a weapon to empty the Gaza Strip of Palestinians and soon perhaps the West Bank.

It is dominated by Jewish extremists that have turned Israel into what he calls the state of Judea, distinct from the old state of Israel. The state of Judea, run by fanatic Jewish colonists, 750,000 of whom live in the West Bank, fuses religious Zionism, with Orthodox Judaism. It seeks to establish an Israeli empire that will dominate its Arab neighbors, especially Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria. The hatred for Palestinians by those who run this neo-zionist state, the state of Judea, extends towards secular Israeli Jews. This, he argues, means that ultimately Israel will fracture, making Israel unsustainable. At the same time, as the American empire unravels, a process accelerated by the ineptitude and corruption of the Trump administration, Israel's fundamental pillar of support will erode, forcing retrenchment by the United States, including in the Middle East.

What will the collapse of Israel mean for Israelis, Palestinians, and the Middle East? Will it usher in a process of decolonization? Or will it foster even more violence, bloodletting, and extremism? Will it be
possible to replace Israel with a secular state, one where Palestinians have equal rights with Israelis, a
country of one person, one vote? Or will Israel atrophy into a despotic theocracy with its educated secular elite fleeing the country and its economy disintegrating under the onslaught?

Joining me to discuss the future of Israel and his book Israel On the Brink is Elon Pappe, professor of history at the College of Social Sciences and International Studies at the University of Exiter in the UK and director of the university's European Center for Palestine Studies. His other books include the ethnic cleansing of
Palestine, 10 myths about Israel, and a history of modern Palestine.

-- Is Israel 'On the Brink?' (w/ Legendary Israeli Historian Ilan Pappé). The Chris Hedges YouTube Channel. Oct 29, 2025

Now, Stefanu also added that
Israel does not tolerate criticism and
wants to control everything.

Israel's ambassador has condemned these
statements calling them plain and simple
anti-semitism. Ambassador Orurin Analik
has said that Stefanu had crossed a line,
targeting a community on the basis of
identity.

As I dug into the history between Cyprus
and Zionism, I found a dark pattern of
manipulation and deceit, a story that
leaves a bitter taste every time it
resurfaces. Because Cyprus was never
just an island to Zionists. It was a
tool, a stepping stone in their march
toward domination, a place to exploit
before Palestine became the chosen
prize. Before I tell you about the
latest revolt against Israeli
encroachment through property grabs and
covert settlements, understand this.
Zionist history in Cyprus has always
been one of opportunism, of taking
without belonging, of using others as
ladders to climb toward power.

We have decided to sign a 5-year
bilateral defense cooperation with this
country. And we continue to work hand in
hand with the states committing that
genocide.

In the late 19th century, figures like
Theodore Herzl and the early Zionist
ideologues eyed Cyprus not as a home but
as a staging ground. They saw it as a
convenient base near Palestine, a
launchpad to advance their exclusionary
dream, treating the island not as a
sovereign land with its own people and
history, but as disposable real estate
to be bought, used, and discarded. The
records of those Zionist congresses make
it clear Cyprus was discussed,
dissected, and dismissed when the
greater conquest of Palestine came into
focus. Now, decades later, that history
is repeating itself, and Cypriot youth
know it. They've seen what Israel did to
Palestine, and they're saying, "Never
again." Protests have erupted across the
island, blocking Israeli ships and
torching some in acts of open defiance.
A fiery statement against the silent
infiltration that's been unfolding under
the banner of investment and
development. Reports suggest Israel even
deployed air defense systems in Cyprus,
allegedly to protect its assets. But in
truth, to prepare for any uprising that
could threaten its grip over the Cypriot
government. To save face, the
authorities moved swiftly, a Cypriot
court recently sentenced Israeli
businessman Shimon Aikut to 5 years in
prison for illegally developing Greek
Cypriot property in the Turkish held
north.

And in doing so
supposedly kind of secure the island
for themselves. This is what the agenda
is here.

And this is also why the last
two years have been reports of Cypress
being given as well uh Israeli defense
systems which I think were recently
confirmed as well. And I had noticed
this in the initial stages around uh
pretty much since the early days of 2024
when I found it alarming as to why
Cypress all of a sudden uh was
accumulating or being given Israeli air
defense systems. I was concerned as to
how what what exactly is the plan that
they're trying to prepare Cypress for.
What is Cypress going to be defending
itself against? Yes, there is an
occupation, but pretty there is a there
there's a there's a relative the
conflict is frozen. So, there's a
relative calm. There's a status quo to
all of a sudden be escalating air
defense systems from Israel inside of
Cyprus. It goes to show that there's an
agenda here as well. And the agenda that
they have for Cyprus is to expel Turkey
in order to limit Turkey's influence
within the region because Israel wants
to be the dominating influence in the
region.

And this fits part and parcel
with the greater Israel plan. The idea
is to expand and accumulate as much
territory as possible. I mean, this is
how colonialism operates. They want to
take vast territory. They want to
control Syria. This is why they're
occupying Syria at the moment. This is
why they're using the Dru. using the the
conflicts that have arisen after the the
the overthrow of Assad inside Syria in
order to be able to kind of uh you know
divide and conquer Syria in order to
probably bulcanize Syria or take control
of the vast territories of Syria again
fitting within the greater Israel plan.
And now they're trying to do the same
thing in Cyprus. And they're also trying
to do the same thing in Lebanon by
creating intersectionist or kind of
fueling the intersectionalist tensions
within Lebanon in order to basically
justify and provide pretext to
constantly um sort of militarily
intervene and occupy Lebanon which they
are occupying five key territories
inside of Lebanon and they are refusing
to leave.

Cyprus is now the next point
of contestation and it's going to be the
Cypriot public that is going to suffer
the cost because Turkey is a strong
military. This is a fact and even though
Israel itself is backed by the United
States etc. uh if there's going to be
any sort of tension that's going to be
created between Israel and Turkey and
using the Cypriot people as as bait
essentially this is going to completely
destroy the island and it's going to
it's going to bring about again the
tensions within the Cypriot population uh
and it's and and any sort of
attempt to liberate the island
from the north without any resolution
between the two communities and the
unfortunate bloody history that has
taken place is going to merely generate
more tensions within the public that
will then justify further imperialist
intervention on the island. Therefore,
forever depleting any opportunity for
this place to unify peacefully, but also
to be a sovereign independent state,
which is why Cypriots should be very
alarmed about what's happening. But the
vast majority of them, I don't think,
know, especially from a certain
generation upwards that may not be are
relying on Cypriots media to relay this
information to them, they are not aware
of the extent of the dangers in their
country.

I've seen certain reports, and by the way
uh you're quite right to point out that
size of uh Turkey Turkey's army is
formidable. It's the second largest army
in NATO by a significant margin over
every other uh European country. Um uh
I've seen reports of aite considerable
military buildup uh by the Turkish
forces in the north of Cypress in the
occupied part of Cypress. Are those
reports accurate and do we know the
extent of that buildup?

I I mean I believe those reports are
rather accurate because as I said um I
don't I I don't have I haven't seen any
other way to verify this is information
as well that I have seen come out of out
of the north uh in media outlets out of
the north. Um the criate media has
touched on it. Um so therefore I believe
that it is that this is currently
happening but this is part and parcel of
response to the current tensions that
are happening now between Israel and
Turkey and um because of Israel's as
I've said they're constantly in like
trying to integrate Cyprus into this
greater Israel project and but to do so
you do need to expel Turkey. Turkey
however itself has its own agenda in
Cyprus. I mean the entire reason that
they have occupied the north of Cypus
because it was part and parcel of a plan
that was laid out by President Johnson
from the United States uh in 1964. This
was really and this was a part of the
idea of appeasing both Greece and Turkey
at the time which were NATO states in
order to secure the eastern frontier
from the USSR. So the idea was to give
the north part of Cypress to Turkey
because it's essential for its own
surveillance and military security. This
is why the northern part of Cyprus is so
significant to Turkey as well. And
they're not about to just simply allow
Israel to infiltrate into the south and
try to so-called liberate or cause any
tensions that will threaten their own
security interests in the region, which
I said it's not just happening in Cypus.
We've also seen these tensions between
Turkey and Israel also take part
happening in Syria as well. And it's
also going to begin happening in
Lebanon because Turkey also has a vested
interest for its own military, its own
economic sort of ambitions within
Lebanon to have significant control over
the north of Lebanon, which again is
something that does not appease Israel.
But at the same time, I don't even think
it appeases the United States in many
ways because Turkey is a
very big country. It has a powerful
military. it is an important um uh it's
it's become one of the most if not the
most powerful sort of player in West
Asia and this threatens Israel but it
also threatens the United States who
wants to be the dominant party within
the region for economic purposes for uh
you know in order to be able to control
resources and trade routes etc. And
having a Turkey that is at this point
becoming far too powerful impedes on the
interests as well of western states.

So what we're going to see, I believe in
Cypress, is that we're going to see
Israel uh try to antagonize Turkey
through Cyprus, as we're seeing in
Syria as well.

The proof of state involvement came
shortly after when an Israeli newspaper
in classic fashion published an article
warning of security threats from Cyprus.
The piece written by Zionist commentator
Shay Gal outlined something far more
sinister, a plan called Poseidon's
wroth, which described how Israel could
dominate the Mediterranean using
military and naval power. Gal wrote that
Israel must be prepared to control
regional sea lanes and strike
preemptively under the guise of
self-defense, invoking Turkey's
nuclear projects as justification. The
language was clear. It wasn't analysis.
It was a threat. A message to Cyprus and
the wider region that Israel views them
as obstacles, not partners. Pawns in its
maritime ambitions.

This wasn't diplomacy. It was
imperialism dressed as strategy. Another
blueprint for domination hiding behind
security rhetoric.

Cyprus sits at the
heart of a geopolitical storm. Its
location makes it vital for energy
transit, for trade routes, for control
over the eastern Mediterranean. Israel
wants that control and projects like the
East Med pipeline and the Eastern
Mediterranean Gas Forum reveal its plan
to dominate regional energy flow to
deliver gas to Europe on its terms and
to exclude anyone who stands in its way,
particularly Turkey and the Turkish
Republic of Northern Cyprus. This is why
Cypress matters to Israel not as a
friend but as a piece of territory in
its vision of regional hegemony. It's
about pipelines, profit and power
disguised as cooperation.

Meanwhile, the
Greek Cypriot leadership weak and deeply
compromised has played straight into
Israel's hands. Plagued by
socio-economic instability, political
dependency and blind admiration for
western powers, Nikos Christodoulides
has turned Cyprus into the
weakest link in the eastern
Mediterranean. The alliance with Israel
and the United States, founded on
hostility toward Turks and built on the
logic of the enemy of my enemy is my
friend, has created a fragile, unholy
pact that now threatens to consume the
island.

The youth of Cyprus see this
betrayal clearly, and their revolt is
not just about land or ships. It's about
reclaiming their dignity from foreign
manipulation and refusing to let their
island become another porn in Israel's
endless pawn in Israel's endless game of colonization.

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Northern Cyprus is also an Israeli problem. It is not Israel's role or desire to liberate Northern Cyprus. However, if the threat from the area reaches a critical threshold, Israel's strategic posture must shift. Israel, in coordination with Greece and Cyprus, must prepare a contingency operation for liberating the island's north.
by Shay Gal
Israel Hayom
Published on 07-29-2025 10:10 Last modified: 07-29-2025 10:10
https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/no ... i-problem/

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Turkish and Northern Cypriot flags. Photo: AP | Photo: AP

Cyprus recently marked the 51st anniversary of Turkey's 1974 invasion - a lasting trauma for Greek Cypriots. For decades, Israel treated this conflict as a distant Greek-Turkish issue, but must now clearly acknowledge: Northern Cyprus is not just a Greek-Cypriot problem - it is also an Israeli one. In practical terms, Northern Cyprus functions as an international no-man's land, enabling Turkey and terrorist groups like Hamas and Iran's Quds Force unrestricted operational freedom.

Since the invasion, which killed thousands and displaced hundreds of thousands, Turkey's presence has quietly transformed. The area is now a forward base for Turkey's military, hosting sophisticated weapons systems, cyber surveillance, and signals intelligence (SIGINT) infrastructure capable of intercepting both military and civilian Israeli communication, alongside covert terrorist facilities supported by Ankara. According to leaked intelligence documents, senior Turkish officials characterized Northern Cyprus as an ideal location "where anything can be done without interference by police or judicial oversight".

Turkey can deploy armed drones from Lefkoniko airfield - converted from an abandoned airport into a drone base amid regional gas disputes - far more rapidly than from its mainland bases. Since May 2021, Turkey officially stationed armed Bayraktar TB2 drones there, and more advanced Akinci UAVs were publicly showcased at a military parade in July 2024. These UAVs can rapidly target Israeli gas rigs, naval vessels, and strategic sites. In addition, Turkey's advanced ATMACA anti-ship missiles, with a range exceeding 200 km, could directly threaten Israeli maritime assets, including its critical natural gas platforms. Moreover, Turkey's new Typhoon ballistic missile is capable of precisely hitting targets up to 560 kilometers away. According to Western intelligence, missile bases in Kyrenia and Famagusta are already prepared for their deployment, posing Turkey's first direct ballistic threat to Israel, with the capability of striking Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, and Haifa Bay.

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Northern Cyprus border. Photo: Ami Shooman

Meanwhile, the EU continues security cooperation with Ankara despite Turkey's occupation of EU territory - a contradiction undermining EU credibility and posing risks to Greece, Cyprus, and Israel as well. Ankara's aggressive foreign policy, marked by unlawful occupations, sanctions violations, and ties to extremist groups, aligns it with rogue regimes rather than NATO allies. Given NATO's requirement of unanimous consent and Turkey's strained relations within the alliance, Article 5 protection is unlikely even in unrelated conflicts, and practically impossible regarding Northern Cyprus, internationally recognized as Cypriot territory.

Yet the threat is not solely military. Lacking effective international oversight, the occupied area has become a hub for terrorism financing and money laundering, with Iranian and Turkish illicit funds flowing through shell companies to support Hamas and other terror groups. Documents seized during Operation "Guardian of the Walls" (2021) and "Iron Swords" (2023) in Gaza revealed Hamas's plans to establish an operational branch in Turkey and Northern Cyprus, tasked with carrying out attacks against Israelis in Europe. Furthermore, in 2023, a Quds Force cell uncovered in the region planned attacks against Israeli targets in Europe. This Iranian cell underscores Northern Cyprus's status as a safe haven for anti-Israel operations. Thus, Turkish control over Northern Cyprus enables Turkey and Iran to bypass sanctions and escalate their strategic threat against Israel. Moreover, hotels, casinos, universities, and ports in Northern Cyprus have reportedly become covert hubs for espionage, blackmail, and intelligence operations coordinated by Turkish security forces and organized crime networks, including 'honey trap' operations targeting international officials.

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Northern Cyprus. Photo: Moshe Shai

It is not Israel's role or desire to liberate Northern Cyprus. However, if the threat from the area reaches a critical threshold, Israel's strategic posture must shift. Israel, in coordination with Greece and Cyprus, must prepare a contingency operation for liberating the island's north. Such an operation would neutralize Turkish reinforcement capabilities from the mainland, eliminate air-defense systems in Northern Cyprus, destroy intelligence and command centers, and finally remove Turkish forces, restoring internationally recognized Cypriot sovereignty.

This contingency plan could be termed "Poseidon's Wrath," named after the Greek god of the sea, highlighting maritime dominance and the devastating consequences of a worst-case scenario. The name underscores Israel's focus on safeguarding strategic maritime assets and maintaining open sea lanes critical for regional security. This would remain a contingency plan: Israel does not seek confrontation but must remain fully prepared. The Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear infrastructure, previously regarded as a highly unlikely scenario, was eventually executed. Turkey, currently constructing the problematic Akkuyu nuclear plant on its Mediterranean coast - a project Russia is quickly abandoning due to recognized risks - should internalize this lesson.

Shay Gal is an expert on international politics, crisis management, and strategic communications. He works internationally, focusing on power dynamics, geopolitical strategy, and public diplomacy, and their influence on policy-making.

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BREAKING: Trump QUITS On HEGSETH As CRIMES LEAK OUT!
Jack Cocchiarella
Nov 30, 2025

Political commentator Jack Cocchiarella reacts to Donald Trump's breaking with Pete Hegseth.



Transcript

If there's one thing that we know about
Donald Trump, it's that he watches a lot
of TV. He's never working and he's
always sitting on his fat ass watching
Fox. But today, it wasn't his favorite
propaganda outlet that he was tuned
into. It was the coverage around Pete
Hegth's war crime. Specifically, what
Mark Kelly had to say because it is the
only reason for what Donald Trump just
did. quitting on Pete Hegth publicly,
throwing him under the bus, breaking
with him for the first time during his
term in a press gaggle on Air Force One
that is shaking up this administration
and putting another huge crack in the
fracturing MAGA coalition. We are going
to get into it all. But before we do, if
I could quickly ask you to leave a like
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way in supporting our work. Now, before
we get into what Trump had to say
quitting on Hegsth, I want to start what
I believe led him to get to that point.
And it's what Mark Kelly had to say
about Hegsth's illegal order. Right here
happening right now. The Washington Post
reporting that Secretary Hegsth gave an
order to kill everybody on one of those
suspected drug boats during the first
strike in September. Are you calling for
US service members to actively disobey
orders like those?
Well, if orders are illegal, not only do
they not have to f follow them, they are
legally required not to follow it.
Do you think that constitutes an illegal
order?
I think there needs to be an
investigation. And I hope that the
reporting is not accurate. I care so
much about the United States Navy and
those service members. This was an
operation uh involving the most
professional members of the military, US
Navy Seals who I rever I hope and pray
that this is not true, but there needs
to be an investigation by the inspector
general. Pete Hgsth uh fired many of the
inspectors general in DoD, but whoseever
left left needs to investigate it. We're
going to investigate it. I sit on the
armed services committee. We're going to
have an investigation. We're going to
we're going to have a public hearing.
We're going to put these folks under
oath and we're going to find out what
happens happened and then there needs to
be accountability.
Let me ask you
now. I certainly do not get the security
briefings of a United States senator. So
I I can't say this with 100% certainty,
but I read the reporting. I trust the
reporting. The reporting is accurate.
Pete Hexath is a war criminal. I do not
need to wait for Congress to tell me
that. the fact that Republicans both in
the House and the Senate on the Armed
Services Committee are calling for these
investigations, are moving forward with
these investigations, that these are
bipartisan investigations, tells me
everything that I need to know. and also
Republicans. It had to rise to war
crimes before you would start holding
Pete Hegathth accountable and saying,
"hm, maybe the guy on the third marriage
in the fifth affair and the eighth
illegitimate child uh and and multiple
allegations credibly against him, yet
maybe this guy isn't isn't the right fit
to be the Secretary of Defense." How did
it how did it take war crimes for us to
get to that point? That that's besides
the fact that no, I do believe this
reporting. It was an illegal order. Pete
Hexth is a war criminal and good on Mark
Kelly for continuing to call him out no
matter how much Donald Trump tries to
move forward with this intimidation plan
because he thinks it's laughable. He
thinks that's going to scare Mark Kelly.
Really? Get the [ __ ] out of here. That's
just a ridiculous notion. And Mark Kelly
made that very clear.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegsith has
personally threatened to recall you uh
to active duty so that you can be court
marshaled. Secretary Hegsith adding your
video quote intentionally undercut good
order and discipline. Did it?
I said something very simple and
non-controversial.
And Donald Trump said I should be
hanged, executed, prosecuted. Pete Heg
said I should be court marshaled. I
mean, how ridiculous is this? We say
follow the law and this is their
response. These are not serious people.
And Kristen, this is meant to just
intimidate us. We're sticking up for the
Constitution here and the rule of law,
and they're saying these folks should be
executed for doing that. I mean, Pete
Hegth is not a serious person. He's
unqualified for this job. Now, if you
watched the morning shows today, if you
watch the Sunday morning shows, you saw
a lot of Mark Kelly and Donald Trump,
who is always tuning in to the Sunday
morning shows, as was evidenced by
something he said again about Tim Walls
during this press gaggle, certainly
tuned in. And I think he sees the
building pressure. I think he sees Mark
Kelly unafraid. And I think he at least
knows that he does not need another set
of scandals from a guy in Pete Hexath
who Trump picked to be the secretary of
defense because he thought that this is
a telegenic guy. He can go out there and
communicate. He can rah rah. He can, you
know, struggled to do a pull-up and
it'll make us look good. Now, of course,
Pete Hexath is not a good look for
anybody, but Trump said that this guy
would fire up the MAGA base. But now
with Republicans turning on him, wanting
investigations, do you think Donald
Trump wants to deal with any more of
this as his term falls apart? I don't
think so. And as is the case with anyone
who works for Donald Trump, is friends
with Donald Trump, associates with
Donald Trump, you are bound to get
screwed over by Donald Trump. That is
the reality that Pete Hexath is waking
up to.
Strike. there were a second strike that
killed the people committed in a first
strike. Are you about
I don't know that that happened. And
Pete said he did not want them. He
didn't even know what people were
talking about. So we'll look at we'll
look into it. But no, I wouldn't have
wanted that. The second strike first
strike was very lethal on his mind.
Midas touch responded to this quote from
Trump writing preparing to throw Hegsth
under the bus. Now a lot of people are
speculating and I agree that Trump
saying well I wouldn't have wanted a
second strike. I didn't say to do that.
I'm the no new wars guy. The the the
initial strike killing innocent
fishermen. Yeah, that was just
preventative. That's not me launching an
armed conflict. me saying that all the
airspace around Venezuela needs to be
shut down because I'm threatening them.
Oh, that's not me launching into a war.
I I'm just being a strong guy. Trump is
trying to make a little bit of distance
between him and Hegsth in the media. He
wants people to think that, oh well,
well, two strikes, but Pete did is too
far. I wouldn't have done that. That was
his decision. He wanted that carried
out. There's a lot of lot of pushing of
the blame to Pete Hegathth. This is the
the clearest break that Trump has made
and he's just quitting on him in terms
of his strategy around this bombing
campaign in international waters. Trump
was backing him up before saying that
this was justified. This was important.
Remember, Trump was posting these
videos. He was sharing the criminal
bombings. Donald Trump was posting his
own war crimes. But now after some
backlash, after Republicans saying we
need to investigate this, and after a
very direct campaign by Mark Kelly to
bring attention to this, and good on
Mark Kelly, Donald Trump's starting to
say, I don't really like how they're
talking about me on TV because again,
it's it's always about TV. Let's be
honest, people. And he's saying, I'm
going to put a there's a little line in
the sand right there, and that's that's
Pete. Pete did that. I wouldn't have
done that. That was Pete's call. Oh, now
you're talking about war crimes. That
was on Pete. We're doing another round
of investigations. That was on Pete. He
is clearly breaking with him. He's
opening the door to throw him under the
bus. He's opening the door to firing
someone. I think Donald Trump wants some
heat off him right now. And I think in a
moment in which he is seeing the lowest
approval rating of his presidency,
he he potentially has another
devastating election loss coming up in
Tennessee. Shout out to Afton Bane on
Tuesday. I think Donald Trump is is
waking up to the fact that maybe a
little shakeup might help him, right?
Maybe that's a little distraction. Maybe
that's something to feed the media.
Maybe that's a look over here and don't
pay attention to Epstein. Don't pay
attention to the economy. Talk about
Pete Hath. That was Pete Hexath's fault.
That that that's what it was. Donald
Trump fired a lot of people in his first
administration and a lot of people
resigned. There was a lot of turnover.
It's been relatively stable for Trump,
right? right? That MAGA has been pretty
pretty locked in, at least in his
administration and Congress. We're
seeing resignations. We're seeing
threats of resignations
for these strikes.
This is one of the issues that has
Republican lawmakers saying, "I don't
know if I want to be here. I got to
defend this guy. I don't know if I want
to be here."
So, is Donald Trump thinking to himself
right now, huh? New Secretary of Defense
on one hand, other hand, keep the drunk
idiot
doing bar crawls on Wednesday nights and
killing people illegally
or
resignation with resignation.
Republicans resign if I keep Pete Hegsth
and then I lose the House and then the
more investigations come or just new
Secretary of Defense. I I think that
Trump would probably lean towards new
Secretary of Defense and getting rid of
Pete. I don't think he has a lot of
loyalty to Pete Hagsth. I think that's
where Donald Trump is leaning right now.
I wouldn't be surprised. And again, I
wouldn't be surprised if a lot of this
was because of Mark Kelly on television
today. That's what drives a lot of
Donald Trump's decision-m. So, on that
note, I think we need to hear more from
Mark Kelly who was just going off on
Trump. Well, first let me let me start
by saying we said something very simple
and non-controversial and the president
of the United States said hang them,
execute them, u prosecute them. In my
case, uh secretary heas said prosecute
him under the uniform code of military
justice for by the way reciting the
uniform code of military justice. It's
obviously ridiculous, but this is an
attempt to silence me, to to get me to
not hold this administration
accountable. We have a president who
doesn't understand the Constitution, who
installed an unqualified Secretary of
Defense. I cannot think of a Secretary
of Defense in the history of our country
that is less qualified than Pete Hexath.
He should not be in this position. He
should have been fired after Signalgate
and now he should be fired again for
this. if this if this is accurate. Um,
so he's not going to get me to back
down. And what but what he is doing is
sending a very chilling message across
our entire nation, not only in the
military, but the civilian workforce.
Who's going to speak up and say anything
if they see something that's unlawful or
see something waste, fraud, and ab
abuse? Why would anyone speak out if
they can go and prosecute try to
prosecute a US senator?
Is it happening?
Well, I I don't know. I mean, I was
notified
I was notified about this through a
tweet, the same tweet that you saw. And
that demonstrates how unserious this
administration is. They care. They care
more about the publicity about this than
the process or the law. I haven't been
notified by the Navy.
By the Navy or the FBI. So, no.
We We got something about from the FBI.
But the thing we received from the FBI,
just like the president said saying that
we should be hanged,
the thing we received from the FBI is
more intimidation.
What did it say?
Well, it just said there was no point of
contact. It had something about uh
coming in for an interview. Um, and the
and the question here should be, you
know, why did the FBI decide to do this?
Or do you think maybe the president told
the FBI director to go after these six
members of Congress? I expect to be
hearing a lot more from Mark Kelly. And
funny enough, very soon I'm going to be
doing a doing an interview with Mark
Kelly. So, actually, if there's anything
specifically you'd like to see me ask
him, feel free to DM me on Instagram, on
Twitter, to to drop a comment below. Um,
there are a lot of questions I'm gonna
have for Senator Kelly. Uh, also just
going to need to shake his hand, tell
him he's badass, cuz he is. But this is
the energy that Democrats need and I
want to see more of it. We're going to
be talking about it and highlighting it
on this show. If you want to support
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Pete Hegseth's "Kill Them All" Order Constitutes a War Crime!
by Glenn Kirschner
Nov 29, 2025

The Washington Post just reported: "Hegseth order on first Caribbean boat strike, officials say" Kill them all." Hegseth's order, and the resulting murders in international waters, violates domestic law, international law, and the law of war.

A statement just issued by the "Former JAGs Working Group" concludes that the killings carried out on Hegseth's orders "are war crimes."

I sat down for a discussion about this latest development with law professor, military law expert, and member of the Former JAGs Working Group Dan Maurer.



Transcript

Hey all, Glen Kirschner here. So friends,
the Washington Post just reported that
regarding these deadly boat strikes in
international waters, Secretary of
Defense Pete Hegsth gave a kill them all
order.
So the only thing left is for Pete Hegth
to be prosecuted for murder.
I just sat down with law professor and
military law expert Dan Mau to talk
about Pete Hegath's
war crimes.
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All right, welcome everybody. Uh, happy
Saturday. Hey, I hope you all had a
great Thanksgiving and uh are recovering
from eating too much as am I. Um we've
got our friend Dan Mau back. Um law
professor, retired Army Lieutenant
Colonel retiring uh from the US Army Jag
Corps. He taught constitutional law and
criminal law at West Point. He also
taught at the Army's Jag School on the
campus of University of Virginia. He has
become a a frequent flyer here
unfortunately talking about the
continued abuses of Donald Trump Pete
Hegath and the folks who are um deciding
to obey what appear to be clearly
patently unlawful orders. So first of
all happy holiday weekend and welcome
back Dan. I'm I'm so happy that you're
back with us.
Thank you Glenn. Happy post Thanksgiving
to everybody.
I want to start this with uh just
reading a little bit from the new
Washington Post reporting about the
latest travesty. Um the headline is
hegth order on first Caribbean boat
strike officials say kill them all and
just a little bit of the reporting
includes defense secretary Pete Hegsth
gave a spoken directive according to two
people with direct knowledge of the
operation. Quote, "The order was to kill
everybody." Close quote. One of them
said, "A missile screamed off the
Trinidad coast, striking the vehicle and
igniting a blaze from bow to Stern. For
minutes, commanders watched the boat
burning on a live drone feed. As the
smoke cleared, they got a jolt. Two
survivors were clinging to the
smoldering wreck. the special operations
commander overseeing the September 2
attack, the opening salvo in the Trump
administration's war on suspected drug
traffickers in the Western Hemisphere
ordered a second strike to comply with
HEGs instructions. Two people familiar
with the matter said and the two men
were blown apart in the water. Now, Dan,
I saw you post something on LinkedIn and
you said, I'm not going to read much of
it, but quote, "If the reporting here is
accurate, I'm disgusted, appalled, and
angry. Any order to execute these boat
boat strikes on narco terrorists is an
unlawful order that should have been
rejected by the chain of command. And
there is no way to wash clean the taint
of illegality that defines an order to
quote kill everyone, including the
survivors of the first strike clinging
to the side of the sinking boat. You
know, I I think this is so appalling and
it it just it turns our stomachs. But
can you talk a little bit about um the
illegality of what is being reported in
this Washington Post article?
Yeah. Well, I mean, aside from it being
completely immoral and base to to do
that to survivors of a strike, uh
there's a reason why it's illegal under
international law because it's viewed as
beyond the pale. Um so the first thing
to note is that under
well known well-known international law
that goes back not just modern intern
customary international law directing
how you use force abroad says you cannot
give an order for no quarter you know
take no survivors that that's not that's
not lawful under any
any interpretation of the law of armed
and it hasn't been for a very long time.
I mean, this predates the revolution
and it's certainly embedded in the HEG
regulations and in the Geneva
Conventions that we have signed as
treaties and make part of our law. And
it's something that we we train our our
service members as as one of the basic
foundational principles of all of our
don't you don't kill prisoners. You
don't kill what are called or to combat
or out of the fight. French were out of
the fight. That includes PS, includes
wounded and sick, and it includes the
shipwrecked. It includes survivors.
And there are special protections that
you give to shipwrecked crews. Whether
you're fighting a law enforcement
campaign or you're fighting an armed
conflict, when there were survivors in
the sea, you actually have a duty to go
rescue them. Not just don't kill them,
but to also rescue them. That's an
affirmative obligation to save their
life, not to take their life. It's easy
to to kill him. Clearly, we did that.
But I don't understand what what really
bothered at a core core level is how
that order, that kill everyone order was
interpreted by a three-star admiral at
the time. That admiral commanding J-C is
now the commander fourstar of special
operations command. A former Navy Seal.
Well, I guess you're always a Navy Seal.
former commander of Steel Team 6 said,
"Launch the second missile because those
two shipwrecked crew members might get
picked up by their fellow narot
terrorists and continue trafficking
drugs. One, highly unlikely. Two, that
doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter."
And he should have known that. He
absolutely should have known that.
Whether there was a jag in the room or
not, that's basic. That's like how do
you shoot your weapon basic. And that to
me is an impeachable offense for
Hegsath. It is a court marshalable
offense for the admiral. And I take no
joy in saying that as a former retired
officer to to say that there's any blame
here on the military, but there is. They
followed a patently awful order to kill
those
drug runners, assuming they're drug
runners. Even if they're the worst drug
runners in the world, even if they're
armed, if they're not shooting at the US
forces at the time, they are not
targetable. In fact, they had to be
saved, picked up, and rescued, not just
blown to pieces, as the reporting
indicates. It is so far illegal that I I
I cannot understand how someone that
senior could have allowed that to
happen. and all down the chain of
command. And it might have been a three
star to a drone operator or someone
firing a missile from a plane. Who
knows? It might have been two steps, but
both of those steps should have been a a
firm rejection. No, we're not going to
kill them. Bottom line. And they should
have put their stars on the table. You
want to fire me for that? Fine. But I'm
not doing that. That's what should have
happened and that's what didn't happen.
And and who knows, maybe it happened
multiple times. That was just the first
strike. It may have happened every other
time since then. So clearly a a
massively important breaking story.
Incredibly bad news for those who
thought that like me who thought that
the military would ultimately do the
right thing in the face of a clearly
manifestly patently unlawful order that
they would reject it because that's what
they're trained to do. It's a
professional norm. It's a professional
obligation and it's not hard to spot the
blatantly patently unlawful orders and
this was one of those and so they should
have rejected it. So Dan, let me ask you
this. I know the challenges of
explaining the inexplicable in the Trump
era. I've been a legal analyst since I
retired from the Department of Justice
in 2018 when Trump's illegality was
already on full display. And I I feel
your frustration and I experience the
same frustration when people ask me,
"Well, h how is this lawful?" Well, it's
not. What do we do about it? Well,
that's challenging because we don't
have, you know, a lot of mechanisms
right now given Hegat as the Secretary
of Defense, Donald Trump as president,
given Pam Bondi as attorney general. We
don't have a lot of mechanisms to hold
folk accountable for their lawlessness.
But, but let me ask you this, and I know
I'm kind of asking you to try to explain
the inexplicable.
What what pressures do you think are at
play on the military chain of command
when they know better? I was only on
active duty 6 and a half years as an
army jag. I know better. These career
military members and certainly like
yourself a career army jag. We all know
better. What pressures are do you
suspect are at play in having them
refuse to as you say put their stars on
the table and and decline to defy these
unlawful orders?
Yeah. Uh so I I think and this is
speculation um and it is fairly
inexplicable but I think there are two
uh forces at play here. One is uh
Congress's absolute inability to hold
the executive branch in check uh for
various reasons. Uh that some of the
Democrats, as you know, are now being
louder about it, but they don't have the
floor. Um and they're being accused of
being traitors when they do speak up. Um
but you don't have Republicans coming
out on Mas. Ironically enough, MGT or
MJT did, but the majority of the
Republicans are not pushing back on on
clear illegality from the administration
in any domain. Whether it's domestic
deployment of troops, whether it's
birthright citizenship, whether it's
attacking boats in the Caribbean or the
Pacific, they're just not pushing back
and they're trying to justify or at
least not talk about it. If Congress was
doing its job correctly, they would hold
the executive branch to account. There
are many mechanisms for doing that. Uh
so that's one one influence I think
allowing this to happen. The other one I
fear is what we had been talking about
really since February when he fired the
the senior army and air force TJAGs the
judge advocates general the leading
lawyers in uniform in the Pentagon. That
sent a chilling message throughout the
JAG cores all the way down about don't
be a roadblock because that's that's
what he's justification was. they'd be
roadblocks to implementing policy. And
so you now have more compliant or at
least quieter JAGs. That's one point.
Point two is he also fired the chairman
of the joint chiefs. He fired the chief
of naval operations. He purged for lack
of a better word. Senior commanders.
You see uh Southcom's admiral uh their
their uh commanding officer a few weeks
ago decided to retire early evidently
because of objections to the boat
strikes. This is what happens when you
purge. You end up with what's left,
which is those who are okay with what
the policy is. They're okay with pushing
the boundaries of what's lawful. They're
okay with it. You don't have the people
who should be standing up because
they're no longer in uniform. They're
not there. And that's exactly what we
thought would be the risk when you start
firing the senior leaders for doing
their job. What you're left with, I'm
afraid to say, are yes men and yes
women. I can't say that's the case for
every single bad decision that gets
implemented, but I think in this
particular case where the where the the
strike was so clearly unlawful, I have
to believe that the admiral believed
that he was doing the right thing, that
he was doing what's lawful or at least
believed the law supported him or at
least believed President Trump would
immunize him in some way and therefore
would be okay with it. He's not going to
risk his four stars. Maybe he I'm
assuming he knew he was up for four
stars and was going to go to SOCOM.
didn't want to risk that by pushing
back. Now, where is he? He's got a
promotion. So, maybe that was an
influencing uh factor as well. But I
think it's those two things. I think
what you're left with with is an
atmosphere of fear within the Department
of Defense. Um either fear or compliance
because they agree with him or they are
afraid of being threatened by him. but
him being Trump and Congress not acting
not acting with its lawful
constitutional authority to hold the
executive branch in check. And of
course, all of this, at least this
reporting is coming on the heels of six
members of Congress, uh, including
Senator Mark Kelly, um, saying that
soldiers have an obligation to, uh,
refuse to obey unlawful orders, which
frankly is straight out of the uniform
code of military justice, the manual for
courts marshall, you know, that's sort
of ingrained in us first in officer
basic training for me and then again at
the army jag school. So talk a little
bit about what these military members
are risking if they actually obey uh
excuse me obey these law unlawful
orders.
Yeah. So the law here is kind of tricky
and that's unfortunate and Congress has
a remedy. They could they could fix
this. I'm actually working on an article
now. Hopefully it'll come out in a few
days that explains some of this why
Congress can get involved. But the
bottom line is when a when a member of
the armed services does something upon
an order, they've been ordered to
execute some mission and it turns out
that that mission was unlawful in some
way. Um they can raise if they're
prosecuted for that bad thing that they
do, they whether it's, you know, killing
somebody or taking their money or
hurting them, assaulting them, whatever
it may be, they're prosecuted under the
court marshal system for that crime.
They can raise a defense and say, "I was
obeying orders." Even if that order was
unlawful. They have a defense. The judge
has to buy it, but they can raise it.
I'm not saying it's very successful, but
it can be raised. That is foreclosed.
However, they can't raise it if it's a
patently unlawful order. Okay? That
means it's so obvious on its face that
an ordinary, reasonable, prudent person
would know you can't do that. like go
take out the prisoner back behind the
shed and shoot him in the head. Uh or
you know go go rape that hut of women.
You obviously you can't do that. It's
anyone would know that's unlawful under
any system of law. So following that you
can't say obedience to order. But if
it's not unlawful they can raise an
illegal order. this situation striking
shipwrecked survivors of a missile
strike when they pose no no not even
close to imminent threat to any US
forces or to anybody else. They're
barely clinging to life. Killing them is
to give them no quarter. killing them is
to
ignore centuries of basic
honorable fighting. As honorable as
fighting can be, uh there's a martial
code um implicit within the military law
system as well. And how we fight, we
fight with honor to maintain our
legitimacy. Killing innocent people, one
is clearly wrongful and illegal, but
killing prisoners or killing those who
cannot defend themselves, is a crime
because it's immoral, even under the the
much more permissive moral code of being
a service member in combat. So what's
interesting, Glenn, is the
administration frames the boat attacks
as a non- international armed conflict,
a NYAK, which means the laws of armed
conflict apply. And the laws of armed
conflict here could not be clearer that
this strike, the second strike on the
survivors would be a crime. It's a crime
under any system, but definitely under
the very law that they say that we're
following.
So, the Trump administration is
endangering, you know, not only people
in international waters, uh, but it's
endangering our military members in any
number of ways and by extension, I think
it endangers our national security
ultimately. So, let's finish with this
because I saw this press release. I
think it was issued today by the former
JAGs working group and it has about a
three or four page analysis. It is the
analysis that you just laid out and it
comes to the conclusion. It say it says
the bottom line since orders to kill
survivors of an attack at sea are
patently illegal, anyone who issues or
follows such orders can and should be
prosecuted for war crimes, murder or
both. So talk a little bit about the
former JAG working group and again how
it came to that decision.
Uh yes, so I'm full disclosure I am a
member of that former JAG working group.
Um it's more than a handful but not a
huge contingent of retired uh uh JAG
officers from different services. Um I
don't think I'm at liberty to disclose
who all is in it other than myself. Um,
but I'll just say that uh I I've been
impressed from day one and the group
started kind of very informally back in
February when those TJs were fired and
and the idea was how do we get the
message out that this is dangerous that
this is wrong and dangerous and here are
the consequences that we might see. One
of you know disobeying the the the law
of war was one of the consequences that
we foresaw way back in February. And so
what this group has been doing is
communicating with members of Congress
um both Republican and Democrat. the
professional staffs on the armed
services committees. Um they've been
writing a lot of op-eds um and articles
in places like just security and lawfare
trying to get the message out to a broad
community of of people who who are
listening who care and who are in a
position to do something about it. And
by that primarily we mean members of the
military that don't disobey or I'm sorry
don't obey illegal orders and disobey uh
unlawful orders. By the way, me saying
that is exactly what Senator Kelly just
said. And according to Hegsth, that
would be court marshalable offense for
me, a retired army officer. Um, so
there's that. Um so yes to your point he
has he meaning Trump and Hegs
are putting service members at risk um
for criminal prosecution but even longer
term the institution itself is at risk
of losing its legitimacy losing its
credibility with the American public
losing its its credibility with our
allies and partners who we train by the
way on following the laws of armed
conflict. I I know that because I did
that overseas several times. Um, we
train them on how we supposedly fight
and that is to comply with the laws of
armed conflict and we tell them why we
do it, how it's practical and it's moral
and it's the law.
Can't make that argument as strongly
these days and that is a true shame and
puts puts us uh puts the US military's
legitimacy um and credibility ultimately
uh on the chopping block.
So the last question and I fear I know
the answer. Um do you see any vehicle
any mechanism any organization that can
stop in step in and try to put a stop to
this that can bring some accountability
um to to what we see going on the abuses
of military authority.
Yeah. Well yes Congress Congress if it
does its job right Congress can hold
hearings. They can in start
investigations. They can put pressure on
DOJ to do its job impartially, which of
course I have I have lots of skepticism
and doubt about. Um, but it can put
pressure on on in uh on the executive
branch in other ways, withholding
promotions, withholding appointments.
Um, if it if it cares, if it truly cares
about the rule of law and not about
partisan winning over the the
opposition, then it should care about
this very much because if they ignore
it, they are just handing the reigns
over to a president who doesn't care
about how the troops are used, doesn't
care what risk they're put under, and
doesn't care whether he's obeying the
law or not. And if they hold true to the
oath that they swore when they became
members of Congress, that's what they
ought to be doing.
And and the word if is doing a lot of
heavy lifting in that calculation. If
Congress cares about the rule of law,
perhaps more than they care about, you
know, not displeasing Donald Trump and
perhaps alienating
um his base in the upcoming midterm
elections. you know, that word if is
doing a lot of heavy lifting. I I
couldn't agree with you more, though.
So, Dan, um, where can people find your
work? Um, I know you're on Substack, but
tell everybody where else they can find
you.
Yeah, at Politics by Other Means or just
my name, Dan Mau. Um, I'm on Blue Sky.
I'm on X, but not as much these days.
And I'm on uh LinkedIn. Uh, so you can
find me do a lot of posting on on all of
those uh platforms.
All right. And thank you for always
being available to jump on talk about
these updates. Um, enjoy the rest of
your weekend and I'm sure we're going to
be talking again soon.
Thanks, Len. Take care.
Thanks. Thanks, everybody. We'll see you
later tonight.
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