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REVEALED: How Epstein Linked America, Israel, And India
The Young Turks and Rebel HQ
Feb 6, 2026

According to a new report, Jeffrey Epstein connected an Indian billionaire named Anil Ambani with former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak. Cenk Uygur and John Iadarola discuss on The Young Turks.



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all of those conspiracy theories, which
by the way, I would have dismissed a
year ago, two years ago for sure, about
how world leaders are sick people who
are doing these, you know, with these
underage girls and doing crazy stuff. I
mean, some of the things in the files
are unreal.
Unreal. According to drop site news,
Jeffrey Epstein helped connect Indian
leadership to world officials during
Donald Trump's first term as president.
And there is a lot here, but Jenk first
pass. What do you make of this?
Uh there are again two facts in this
story uh that will prove to you how
incredibly powerful Jeffrey Epstein was,
which then will prove to you that
obviously the US government knew all the
things that he was doing, let alone the
Israelis. Of course. Let's give you the
facts.
Well, here's what you need to know. The
key figure in this story is Indian
billionaire Anneil Amani. He's an ally
of Narinda Modi, the prime minister of
India. Amani and Epstein were in close
communication. Epstein and Amani talked
about setting up meetings with former
Israeli Prime Minister Ahoud Barack, the
head of NATO, Tom Pritsker, the bill the
billionaire chairman of Hyatt Hotels,
and Tom Barack, the chair of Trump's
first inaugural committee. We don't know
how many of those meetings actually
materialized. But what's clear is that
Amani wanted to be in contact with world
officials and Epstein was willing to
help connect him. However, Epstein did
refuse Amani's on at least one occasion.
In March 2017, Amani wrote the following
to Epstein. Hello, was in Delhi.
Leadership would like your help for me
to meet Jared and Bannon ASAP. Please
advise likely visit to DC by PM in May
to meet Donald. Also, assistance on
that. Amani is referring to Jared
Kushner, Steve Bannon, and Donald Trump.
But Epstein told Amani that he should
meet with Barack instead. Steven Jared
are meeting 15 people a day, mostly meet
and greet with little follow-up. State
Department is way understaffed. NBS's
meeting took time to setly a waste of
time. Though photo op was what they
wanted. It's early for anything
meaningful. You should meet with Tom
Barack. Just a few months later, in June
of 2017, Modi would meet with Trump.
Shortly after Modi visited Israel,
making him the first Indian prime
minister to do so. India had a chilly
relationship with Israel prior to that
year. In July of 2017, Epstein wrote the
following message to a recipient by the
name of Yabore Y. The Indian Prime
Minister Modi took advice and danced and
sang in Israel for the benefit of the US
president. They had met a few weeks ago.
It worked. The same day, Epstein sent
the following message to Amani. Your
guy's performance was was both clever
and executed well. Good work. So, what
did Amani hope to gain from his
relationship with Epstein? Based on the
reporting, we can't say for sure, but
here's what we do know. The Indian
billionaire had substantial business
interests in Israel. The previous year,
his company, Reliance Defense Limited,
had entered a joint venture with Raphael
Advanced Defense Systems Limited, a
state-owned Israeli defense firm, to
produce air-to-air missiles and air
defense systems in a deal valued at 10
billion over a decade. 2017, India was
reported to be the largest buyer of
Israeli weapons, having bought 715
million worth of weaponry, according to
the Stockholm International Peace
Research Institute. As for Epstein's
feelings about India and Israel, 2 days
after Mod's visit to Israel, after Mod's
visit to Israel concluded, rather, Larry
Summers asked Epstein if he still
thought Trump is a better president than
Hillary Clinton would have been. Epstein
responded affirmatively stating yes
definitely India is real for example
great and all his doing.
Yeah so lots of super interesting
information in here. So uh first of all
yet another deal that Absene arranges
for Israel. Um but again all of national
media can't see it. They can't see a
single connection. They apparently can't
read. Uh but it's going to get much
worse. Um, so earlier in the show we
reported about how he arranged a deal
with JP Morgan Chase and Netanyahu uh
for the Leviathan oil field and and now
they've announced a $ 35 billion deal
many years later with Egypt about that
field. Who arranged that deal? Jeffrey
Epstein. Uh who arranged this deal to
get India and Israel and the US more
aligned? Jeffrey Epstein. Okay. So to me
a disturbing part of that was the way
that he seemed to revel in making the
Indian prime minister dance for them
and I I don't know that to me for
whatever reason that was stomach
turnurning. Oh yeah he danced and sung
for us basically. Okay India uh is that
what you want? You want to dance and
sing for Israel and okay that's your
leader apparently then. Um so he did it.
He did he did whatever Absene asked him
to do. Okay pause there.
My god, how powerful is Epstein? We were
told, "Oh, random pedophile down in
Florida, pedophilia is bad." Yeah. Oh,
he I guess he's rich. Oh, I guess he has
a couple of rich friends.
No, he's arranging deals with world
leaders nonstop.
And every single time it is for the
benefit of Israel.
This is the national media in this
country is a joke. Okay, so now we go to
um he's all these other folks that he
arranged. Tom Pritsker, that's normal
arguably, right? I'm not saying anything
he did is normal, but like okay, Epste
is a businessman. Tom Pritsk Pritsker is
a businessman. Businessmen know each
other. Not a big deal. Okay. Uh Epstein
arranges a meeting with for his contacts
in India with the head of NATO. Wait,
what? How does Epstein know the head of
NATO and can arrange for some a
businessman to meet with the head of
NATO anytime he wants?
And our entire national media doesn't
think that's interesting.
Doesn't think that that shows that maybe
Epstein had political power,
governmental power to be able to arrange
meetings like that. And these are all in
the files that our government has known
about this entire time. So our
government knew that a one of the most
powerful men on earth who could arrange
almost any meeting with any foreign
leader or the richest men in the world
was running a pedophile ring where other
super powerful and rich people were
participating
and not only never told us about it but
covered it up on his behalf. And our
media doesn't think that's interesting.
They report about the sex. They report
about the celebrities and the and now
some of the rich people, but they never
report about the government. They never
report about how our government
obviously knew how incredibly powerful
this guy was and obviously also
potentially made him that powerful. So
look, it's every deal is done on behalf
of Israel, but every deal is known by
the United States government. So then
that makes me wonder, wait, why is the
US government working on behalf of
Israel? That's the most important and
interesting question. Now, if you say,
"Hey, wait, Jen, Jen, I don't know. Do
you Okay, fine. Head of NATO. Fine.
You've shown me dozens of other cases
where he arranges meetings with uh
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All right, we'll be right back. Now, how
about this one? They're talking about
Petraeus and now Petraeus is the former
uh you know general that was in charge
of Iraq, Afghanistan at different times.
Uh he was our top general and then he
became the head of the CIA. So uh the
Indian businessman asks him about
Petraeus potentially being the
ambassador to India and they said look
we need a strong ambassador because we
got to deal with Pakistan and stuff and
FC's like oh yeah Pakistan sucks right
Muslims. Oh, terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, Israel loves this. More people
attacking Muslims. Okay, so that's
normal so far or what counts as normal
in this insane world. But get a load of
what uh Epstein then writes uh to uh
Ambi, he says when asked about Petraeus,
Tillerson is normally in charge of
search. At the time, Rex Tillerson was a
secretary of state and he'd be in charge
of who would be appointed ambassador to
India. But Epstein continues, "Donald
like Petraeus, but again, Pentagon wary
his use of tradecraft email sticks in
their craw.
How does Jeffrey Epstein
know what the Pentagon thinks about the
former head of the CIA?
And you're telling me he wasn't involved
in our government and our government
didn't cover up for him?" Now look,
you're not telling me that cuz you're a
regular person and you're not like
you're I I don't I've run out of
adjectives to describe the people in
power, right? But any normal person
understands obviously he's helping the
Israelis and the US government knows and
is aiding and abetting him get access to
all of these things, including what our
Pentagon thinks in order to help the
Israelis. But not a single national
media reporter has pieced this together.
Only independent outlets like Drop Site
News. ABC, CNN, New York Times,
Washington Post are like, "Yeah, that's
totally normal." Yeah. Yeah. I ran into
a We did that story on this random
pedophile in Nevada, right? Bob or
whatever his name was. And Bob was
always arranging meetings with the head
of NATO and knew exactly what the
Pentagon was thinking and was doing,
procuring cyber weapons for Israel,
right?
Is that what you think? If you're a
reporter out there and you cover
politics and you haven't covered these
stories like this, you're pathetic.
Please retire and go into plumbing where
you could actually earn an honest
living. Jordan, what do you think?
Yeah, I think the the the status of some
of these people that Epstein was trying
to facilitate meetings with, if anybody
is familiar with how those types of
figures operate, there's a tremendous
amount of vetting and background checks
that go into many meetings.
This, just remember, his first arrest
was in 2008.
They knew about this. The investigation
started in 2005. We're talking about
emails, correspondents, and potential
meetings in 2017.
So, of course, we see much more detail
from reporting from drop site, from
commentary on here, from reporting
elsewhere that validates this theory.
But even at a core level,
they knew what was happening. They knew
what he did and who he was, and they
were okay with it. You could argue
that's simply because of his wealth or
purported wealth. I I don't think that's
it anymore. At first, I you and I talked
about it, Jack, when this first started
to emerge, I was very reluctant to
accept any national security or
intelligence ties to Epstein. And the
more we learn, the more undeniable it
seems. the emails that he wrote, that
people wrote to him, the interests and
the figures that people wanted to either
meet.
It's hard to ignore all of these details
adding up and the fact that we're
talking about the head of NATO, one of
the wealthiest hotel uh CEOs, founders,
chairs,
former prime ministers.
You don't get access to these people if
you just happen to be wealthy. there are
many wealthy people who still would have
a barrier to to access them. There was
something unique about Epstein and his
role in that upper echelon of society
that I don't think is simply because he
had a party island.
Yeah. Uh it's super obvious. I we don't
need to debate it anymore. Uh only the
liars are covering up the story. Uh, and
so
now what's amazing about the FC story is
now we know how the world works. This is
how they set up meetings. This is the
kind of guy who runs it. And by the way,
in the midst of that Petraeus talk, uh,
Epste jokes around about, oh, your next
ambassad ambassador should be a tall
blonde Swedish woman. And then, uh, the
Indian billionaire responds with, "Oh,
can you arrange that?" And in all of
these emails, there's always these uh
subtle and oftentimes not at all subtle
references to, "Oh yeah, bring the
girls."
So all of those conspiracy theories,
which by the way, I would have dismissed
a year ago, two years ago, for sure
about how world leaders are sick people
who are doing these, you know, with
these underage girls and doing crazy
stuff. I mean, some of the things in the
files are unreal.
Unreal. I mean, we reported on one the
other day where one of the confirmed
survivor talks about after she was raped
at 16 by one of the richest men in the
world, she delivers a baby and then they
take the baby from her and she never
sees the baby again.
I You couldn't have gotten me to believe
that. If two years ago you told me
Abstein is secretly working for the
Israelis and he arranges all these
things and he knows all these world
leaders and he can arrange any meeting,
I would have said, "Hey, brother, come
on, man. You're going to need
overwhelming evidence for that. It
sounds like a conspiracy theory." Well,
guess what? We got overwhelming
evidence. So, apparently that's how the
world works.
Every time you ring the bell below, an
angel gets his wings. Totally not true,
but it does keep you updated on our live
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Part 1 of 2

All roads lead to Tel Aviv;) - The Grayzone live
The Grayzone
Streamed live on Feb 6, 2026

Max Blumenthal is joined by Kit Klarenberg to break down the massive new Epstein file dump, and to discuss the scandal surrounding UK Labour peer Peter Mandelson which threatens to bring down Keir Starmer's government. They will also cover US-Iran negotiations, new developments in Venezuela, and more.



Transcript

Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to the gray zone. It's Max Blumenthal.
Gonna be joined soon by our friend and UK correspondent
covering the transatlantic axis of evil Kit
Clarenberg. Quick announcement. We have just had our account restored by
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podcasters, several other podcasters. is PayPal has seized money from other outlets like Consortium News and Mint
Press. In the past, they have banned our colleague Wyatt Reed after he traveled
to the Donbass and was nearly killed in a Ukrainian howitzer strike on
his hotel. and we've been restored. And it's thanks
to number one, the investigation I was able to carry out with our friend who is
an Australian citizen from Iran who donated $40 to us that was flagged in
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contributing uh you know your your insights and own
experience after being flagged as some kind of dangerous bad actor by PayPal.
And number two, thanks to all of you out there, our supporters who raised hell
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They know what we're about. Uh they're called Give Butter. And you know, when you support us at the support tab at the
top of the gray zone, that's the company that will be transferring your donations
to us, which helps sustain our work and sustain the work of Kit Clarenberg, who's going to be joining me to discuss
the latest Epstein files drop, which is three million new files, emails,
recordings, phone calls. It's honestly overwhelming. This was one of the harder episodes to
prepare. I don't really necessarily know where it's going to go, although I have
a some vague parameters. And Kit is going to join us first to
discuss the earthshattering revelations in these Epstein files about
labor lord Peter Mandelen who was in many ways the architect of
new labor, the neoliberal project to take over labor and drive it to the
right, destroy Jeremy Corbin. And now it appears that Kier Starmer's government
is on the verge of collapse over these new revelations. I haven't been following the UK as closely as I should,
but UK media is completely focused on this, 100% focused on this from what I've seen at the expense of everything
else that's happening, being on the precipice of war with Iran, uh, renewed Israeli bombing in Gaza.
So Kit is going to help us unpack this from I think a uniquely critical angle.
And so welcome Kit Clarenberg to the Greyzone stage. Great to see you. Kit is
speaking to us from an unknown undisclosed location somewhere in NATO
territory. Indeed. Um thanks for having me on, Max.
Yeah, thanks for joining us. Um, let's see.
Peter Mandelson, you're gonna have to tell everyone who he is, but
a bulletin was just sent to the British press uh to Ipso
on behalf of Peter Mandlesson. I guess this is like a a secret notice that has
been published. Um, and his representatives of Peter
Mandlesson say state that he does not wish to speak to the media. He requests that the press do not take photos or
film approach or contact via email, phone, or in person. No requests for comment. He's not going to comment.
Tell us just summarize this scandal for us and then tell us why it Peter Mandlesson is
such a significant figure and someone who has been
has not exactly been reluctant to comment in the past has been subject has been the subject of many previous
scandals but this one might be the final blow. So what's happening and who is he?
Yeah sure. So, I mean, first things first, I think this is quite sensational as far as scandals go. Um, and I've
actually been I've actually been somewhat pleasantly surprised by the uh focus that the British media is uh
paying to this. Of course, there's a lot of rubbish about how Epstein was a Russian um asset. Um which is, you know,
completely completely ludicrous. But but the point is is that that yeah, that the the media has been quite viciously going
for Andrew Mountbatton Windsor, the former royal, and uh Peter Mandlesson. I
strongly suspect that they're sacrificial lambs that both of them are have already been kind of thrown under
the bus anyway. But I mean, Mandlesson's particularly interesting. So for for for view for viewers and listeners who are
lucky enough to not be familiar with this um god awful person, um he's a kind of like this unflushable turd in in
British politics, he has been hovering around at the highest levels of the Labour Party and engaged in leftwing
from the mid 1980s onwards, kind of on and off. Um he was Tony Blair's close
confidant and aid. He was a minister in Tony Blair's government. He had to resign twice due to corruption
allegations. Um he returned um under Gordon Brown after he entered the House of Lords as a life peer. Um and uh this
is it was this period from 2008 until Labour lost the 2010 general election
that has caused the most controversy in terms of his relationship with Epstein because number one of course Epstein was
convicted in 2008 of child sex trafficking. Um and uh Mandlesson always
claimed when their bond was exposed in 2019, he claimed that I had no contact with Epstein after his his arrest, which
was a barefaced lie. Um, now the the the contact that he had with Epstein on top of like very kind of perverted uh to and
to uh back and forths with with Epstein including making um you know lewd comments about uh Andrew's young uh
daughter Eugenie u which is just you know deeply creepy. Um the the at the core of at the core of the scandal is
the fact that Mandlesson was handing sensitive information including um uh completely secret private classified
government communications um on to Jeffrey Epstein. Um and this included uh
advanced warning that the uh British government was going to nationalize the banks following the financial crisis,
which is something that Epstein could have profited from or know people who could have profited from. Um he handed on information about the fact that a
bailout was about to be handed to Greece. um long before it was announced. He boasted about how he got Gordon Brown
to quit personally. He kind of forced him to to stand down after the 2010 general election. Um and uh yeah, this
is completely legal. Um it's a breach of the Official Secrets Act of the Ministerial Code um of you know conduct
in public office. You're not meant to do this. It doesn't typically happen. um particularly sending this information to
you know like a private citizen like Epstein you know leaving aside any consideration of his um criminal
criminal um past and indeed you know present I mean he Epstein would continued unabashed um after his arrest
and prosecution and jail uh jail time which wasn't really jail time at all was no deterrent now yeah so he Mandl is is
in very serious trouble but as you mentioned by extension so is Kier Starmmer because Starmmer um appointed
um uh Mandlesson to the the the position of US am sorry British ambassador to the
US in February 2025. Now towards the end of 2025 there was a
series of revelations which implicated um which demonstrated that Mandlesson had been lying about his his
relationship with Epstein and then now um there's been this flood of you know like three million emails which in which
Mandlesson features quite prominently. Um I it's clear that man uh sorry that Epstein uh loaned or gifted vast sums of
money to EP uh to to Mandlesson and Mandlesson's partner. Yeah, as I say, Mandlesson was passing very sensitive
private information um on to on on onto uh Epstein in secret. Um the the it is
kind of inconceivable that the sec British security and intelligence services didn't know when Mandlesson was
was nominated for this post. uh it caused a lot of controversy as it was and that's just based on you know
publicly available information about his bond with Epstein. Um so I mean this is pretty bad and it reflects absolutely
terribly on K star because there have been numerous attempts to rebrand Stalmer and one of you know one one of
the kind of core propaganda messages about Stalmer is that he's very sensible and wise and also a nice guy. Um and I
think he's pretty amply demonstrated that he is complete and utter scumbag. But complicating matters further, and
this is something that hasn't got very much um media interest, is the fact that um uh Morgan Mcweeny, who was kind of
this um uh Rasputin type figure for K Star and was involved in all of these operations to neutralize the left in
Labor, like whether that's permanently banning people from being members um uh
on you bogus grounds of anti-semitism or you he set up a Morgan Mini Swed set up a website called Stop Funding Fake News
to specifically to take down the Canary, which which was this kind of proc Corbin left-wing website and was getting an
enormous amount of traction. Stop funding fake news basically crippled their business model and they had to massively downsize. Um so that was a
kind of key form of support of Jeremy Corbyn that was just um you know shattered um as a result of Mweeny's
kind of covert conniving. Um but Morgan Msweeny is himself a kind of key acolyte
of Mandlesson was kind of taught in the in the dark dirty arts of politics by um
uh by Mandlesson who during the 90s was widely known as the prince of darkness. Um make your own conclusions about why
that is. Um and yeah that Morgan Mweeny remains a very powerful and influential figure in um uh in British politics. And
interestingly, uh, Starmmer's initial response to these revelations about
Mandlesson was to say, "Oh, well, I'm considering firing, um, Morgan Mcweeny," um, because, uh, of the the close bond
between McWeeny and Mandlesson. Um, I might add as well that a large proportion of the Labour cabinet are
themselves Mandlesson acolytes. And there's the the very creepy rubberfaced health secretary um Wes Streeting who
was pictured kind of grinning um on the campaign trail in last year in sorry in the 2024 general election in the UK. Um
and so a large number of of senior Labour figures are having to do you know huge vault fes and say oh well I you
know damn him I trusted him and he lied to me. Well, I mean, you know, the average person on the street could have
told them that he was, you know, up to his neck in that scene. And some of the some of the photos that have emerged of of Mandlesson in the files, which are
obviously heavily redacted, they show him getting foot massages. Um, they depict him walking around with a shirt
on and and and just underpants, which is, you know, extremely creepy. Certainly not a kind of costume choice
that any normal person would go for, let alone allow themselves to be photographed um in this manner. So I I
mean and there's also there's there's there's tons of weirdness in the on top of the the sexually perverted stuff
where where Manson's clearly has this kind of longing for uh Epstein's company
and was you know emailing him saying you don't think about me anymore. I miss you and you know blah blah. It's just it's
really it's really weird. Epstein seems to find him kind of annoying and oh yeah well not quite as annoying as
Elon Musk who got um you know tried to invite himself to the wildest parties on Epstein's island and then Epstein had to
get Jane Maxwell to get him to go away to the extent that Maxwell was like we're thinking of selling the island. Um
but yeah it's it's I mean I think that Epstein probably didn't have very much patience for people. He was, you know,
inundated on a daily basis, it seems, by, you know, emails from, you know, the great and the good. Um, uh, or, you
know, or are they, um, you know, people who are powerful within politics, finance, the military, intelligence.
Now, I think there's a chance that that Elon Musk email was not authentic. So, I just want
to be very clear here. Um, and you know, the the the Mandel emails are are are
pathetic. Uh [laughter] I think at one stage Pepsi praying for
something like very very creepy. We are praying for a hung parliament alternatively a well-hung young man.
Yeah. Yeah. What's your take on that one? Well I mean this refers to how like this was right when the general election was
happening in 2010 and it was widely predicted that Labour was going to lose. Um so I don't know maybe it was a bit of
gallows humor because Man knew he was on the way out but I mean yeah their their bond is like super creepy. Mandlesson
comes across as just this sleazy just oily uh sinister presence kind of
hovering like around like the ghost of the feast. I mean but there's a wider point to be made here which is quite serious which is that that there's a a
kind of through line in all of Epstein's released well not all but a lot of Epstein's released emails is he and his
associates seek to profit from misery um and destruction overseas. So there's an
email from a Rothschild right around in March 2014 right around the time of the maidan coup where this Rothschild says
you know there's a lot of opportunities here um in 2011 just before Gaddafi was
you know sodomized to death on TV um by western back rebels um an associate
messaged him to say I'm working with MI6 and Mosad veterans to asset strip Libya.
Here's that here's that email you mentioned. It's from uh Arian de Rothschild to Jeffrey Epstein.
And Epstein responds, this is after the Maidon coup. Ukraine upheaval should provide many opportunities. Many uh
well, but the Biden family certainly got the message there. [laughter]
Under Biden was like running a parallel kind of Epstein network through Ukraine.
Epstein's basically that's what I think the real value of these emails is is it shows you how business gets done at in
in for example a mineralrich gasrich poor impoverished country that
had just come under de facto NATO and EU control in Ukraine. That's how it gets
done [music] through these power networks. Yeah. I mean sorry go ahead. Yeah. Well,
no, I mean, yeah, it's quite clear that was the kind of a core interest of Epstein was, you know, well, what what
events are occurring um across the world? How can I profit from them? How can my friends profit for for them? And
I might add as well that the there are some exchanges with Peter Theel where Mandals where sorry where where Epstein
is discussing how um chaos is a dedicated strategy of the US um and that
creates opportunities for us because you know if if half the world's on fire one way or another you know we can you know
in the spirit of disaster capitalism you make a mint off it whether you know directly or not. Um but yeah, I mean
Manderson is clearly, you know, an informant. Um who uh uh Epstein passed
this information on is uh on to is isn't necessarily clear. Um that it's you know
been we've we've reported at the grrey zone that I mean he he did have you know contacts with um a number of foreign
intelligence services including including MOSAD and he would routinely you know pass information to them. Um,
so I mean that this is highly substantive and I might add that there is now an official investigation into
Mandlesson's wrongdoing. Initially Kier Starmer tried to um fudge it. So the uh
parliament's intelligence and security committee would be uh would restrict what documents are released um and that
got you know voted down amid some controversy. So it looks like there will be you know a significant disclosure.
probably won't be, you know, in in complete um and it's it's likely that,
you know, there will be some degree of whitewash, but I mean it is it's pretty bad and you know, no one is coming to
the rescue, I think, hence his rather pitiful pleading letter saying, "Oh, leave me alone." Um you know, I mean, he
he was he was trying to invoke um uh powers under the press code, which are usually extended to, you know, the
grieving families of murder victims. Um, of course, Manslson is, you know, is no victim um at all. Um, he's a
perpetrator. But, but yeah, I mean, this this this this this could result in the end of of Karma. I mean, he's already
the least popular prime minister in British history. Um, he gave a Star gave this like very bizarre speech where he
looked like he was on the verge of tears where he he claimed, oh, he did he to he took the standard line of, "Well, man
lied to me and it was an error of judgment on my part. I wish I'd never met him, blah, blah, blah." Um, it's not going to wash. Um I think yeah
particularly now I mean it's interesting he knew he knew I guess what you know
everyone knew about Trump which is that but he knew that Mandolen was
deeply involved with Jeffrey Epstein all along and none of this was surprising
and for all we know he knew that Epstein provided that that Epstein was provided by
Mandles with advanced info of the collapse of the Gordon Brown government. I mean, this is I I I it wouldn't be
surprising. Uh let's watch this exchange in question hour. Uh this is uh the Tory
leader Kem Badnock who's taking down Kier Star Dmer and he's sort of like
shaking. He's stammering. He's he's Kier Stammerer. Knew this. I asked him at that dispatch
box. He gave Mandles his full confidence at that dispatch box. Not once but twice. He only sacked him after pressure
from us. I am asking the prime minister something very specific not about the generalities of the full extent. Can the
prime minister tell us did the official security vetting he received mentioned Mandlesson's ongoing relationship with
the pedophile Jeffrey Epste? So clear prime minister. Yes it did. Oh
result various questions were put to him. I intend to disclose to this house all of the the national security produce
to international relations on one side. I want to make sure that I want to make sure this house sees the full
documentation so it will see for itself the extent to which the extent to which time and time again Manderson completely
misrepresented the extent of his relationship with Pepsi and lied throughout the process including in
response to the due diligence. Mr. Mr. Speaker, I think it is shocking
what the prime minister has just said. How can he stand up there saying that he knew what he just asked Peter Mandlesson
if the security vetting was true or false? This is a man who had been sacked from cabinet twice already for unethical
behavior. That is absolutely shocking. And that is why later today, my party will call on the government to release
all documents relating to Mandlesson's appointment, not just the ones the prime minister wants us to see. Because this
government is trying to sabotage that release with an amendment to let him choose what we see, the man who appointed Mandlesson in the first place.
Labour MPs now have to decide if they want to be accessories to his cover up.
Can the Prime Minister guarantee that he won't remove the whip if they refuse to vote for his whitewash amendment?
Prime Minister, Mr. Speaker, the first exemption is in relation to anything that could compromise national
security. [laughter] that that is that is not a that is not a small matter and
many members on the benches on so he's citing national security as grounds not to release the full truth
about Mandel's relationship with Epstein is that right yeah and I might add that I think that
he expanded on that where he said that um SAM said that this would full disclosure might threaten our relations
with our closest ally which was code for the US and a third country which is code for Israel presumably um I mean the the
the me whether this is [clears throat] a sign up I don't know but the the the
media is now taking the line that well um the Trump administration might be offended um if uh if there's full
disclosure and that's you know another reason to you know you know not not release the files. I mean it does seem
it very much seems that the ISC is pushing f full steam ahead with this. And I might add as well the ISC is it's
meant to vet the work of MI5, MI6 and GCHQ. Um it's members have a extensive
history of complaining that the the agencies don't tell them anything and they have no idea what's going on. Um, in last summer, the head of the ISC, um,
um, made a series of extremely angry statements to the effect that they their funding has been completely slashed to
the point they can't really conduct their work, and there's billions being spent on spying operations at home and
abroad that the ISC doesn't know anything about. Um, Starmmer had promised to give them a cash injection, but then didn't. So, I mean, I strongly
think that they're um, you know, out for revenge to an extent. Um, and you know, this could this could be very very
damning. But like I say, um, I think this is is still to an extent a limited hangout. Um, although it's, you know,
somewhat an improvement on a DOJ spokesperson saying that nobody's going to be prosecuted as a result of the files. Um, despite acknowledging that
they contain images of death and rape. Um, you know, and they've had this this information for god knows how long and
they've not done anything with it. uh despite the fact that you know there are many you know prominent people who are
who are openly named in them um some some of their names are redacted some of them aren't I might add that there's a
very there's a very interesting um one of the most interesting emails that I've seen is from John Luke Brunell who was
this this French model scout um yeah who uh he he he died in um in a French
prison in December 2020 he was he was being held there on charge of you know rape of children there's an email that
he sent to um Epstein been following the maiden coup. I think he talks about how Ukraine's my favorite country now and
you know it's just like the 1980s in Europe and what he was referring to is the fact that in the 1980s several
European governments including the French and the German governments um had formal state sanctioned you know uh
pedophilia policies where they put young um at risk boys primarily. There were
some women women young girls who were placed with pedophiles as a matter of policy very deliberately in the belief
that this would somehow you improve their life um uh you know I mean it's absolutely horrendous but like it what
Brunell meant by this was well you in Ukraine now I can do whatever I like and I'm not going to face any repercussions
for it. His death is likewise extremely suspicious. Um it was widely suspected that he was going to you know flip um on
Epstein because they were you know very close friends for many years um and he died before that could happen. I might
add as well um I one of I think that because the the material is so explosive and some of it might be you know false
uh that that must be that must be noted. Um what's been rather forgotten is like is is here's that email by here's that email
by the way. Sorry to interrupt. So you were saying what's been forgotten. Yeah. No, sorry. What's been kind of
forgotten is the fact that like you know the circumstances of Epstein suicide or was it um they remain you deeply weird
um and we've had some revelations that there was you know someone who was on his floor who wasn't meant to be like around the time but like
who had strangled other people to death in the past and was like a former New York cop. Is that who you're referring
to? Oh yeah. Yeah. That's Yeah, that was um uh Tagion, I think. I mean he was yeah
he was he he like strangled people with zip ties and was like a cocaine dealer on the side as well as being a cop um
and was this you kind of this hulking you know sumo wrestler type character but the but yeah that I mean we reported
the gray zone started 2024 on the basis of a vast amount of bureau of prison
documents that everything about his his alleged suicide is extremely weird. There was no they couldn't find any
evidence that he'd actually tried to kill himself the first time contrary to what they claimed publicly and Epstein
claimed that he didn't remember what had happened and asked to be left alone and didn't want it logged uh and was quite
aggressive in pushing back against that. Um there was a kind of a a whitewash
cover up report where they concluded that Epstein the Bureau of Prisons concluded that Epstein had killed
himself and they spun a comment that he made in a psychological evaluation where he refers to himself as a coward as
proof that he'd committed suicide when he made that comment in the explicit context of denying he had suicidal
intent and saying that well I'm a coward I can't stand pain so how can I kill myself? Um, and that's been rather
forgotten, but I mean it's just it was I I remember following this very closely at the time, which is now nearly six
years ago now. Nearly seven years ago now, but the um yeah, it was it was quite extraordinary. I mean, you know,
he he died. There's no CCTV. The guards weren't where they were meant to be. They got prosecuted. That got dropped um
after im almost immediately after Gilain Maxwell was was prosecuted. A lot of his
associates said that he wasn't suicidal and they didn't believe he taken his own life. there was an independent autopsy
report which concluded that he hadn't um uh hung himself that he that he'd been strangled. Um, so I mean, you know, that
that is a whole can of words which is not really being looked at, but I think, you know, given how much he knew, given
how much he knew and the fact that he'd clearly been exposed. Um, you know, that
I I it seems pretty inelectable that a decision was made by someone somewhere to take him out before he spilled
anything, you know, really really uh damaging um about, you know, the ruling elites of Israel, the US, Britain, and
other countries. Um, but yeah, I mean the whole and sorry, sorry to interrupt because we're we're going a lot of a lot of
places here. There's this [snorts] and and and I don't totally know what to
make of this, but there's this 4chan post by an officer. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Oh, yeah. On the day when when he was found claiming that that he'd been killed. Um,
and uh saying that he he was being taken out.
Yeah. I mean, if you know, I don't know how far you want to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole, but now his name
has been revealed to be Roberto Grihalva. Uh, yeah.
I mean, some someone posted on the poster was anonymous. This was an officer who was on the
scene. Yeah. Claiming that they were an offer on officer on the scene and they announced it before he was, you know,
for formally found and declared dead. Next thing you know, he's put in a single van man cell and hangs himself.
Here's the thing that Trip Van did not sign in. Blah blah blah. You guys, I'm shaking right now, but I
think they switched him out. And then, you know, there's FBI files which essentially docks him as special officer
Grihalva. I don't know if anyone's tried to reach him. Uh, you know, is Jeffrey
Epstein in hell or Tel Aviv? [laughter] Which one? Which one is it?
Yeah. Well, I mean, it's you act as if the two are mutually exclusive, but market. Poly market now has bets on
whether you and we're not sponsored by Poly Market. Poly Market's evil should be destroyed. They should all be prosecuted. Uh but uh they have now bets
on whether Epstein is actually alive. I mean, oh god. I mean, late latest late stage capitalism can't beat it. But yeah, I
mean the whole the whole the whole thing like stinks to high heaven in the fact that I mean that he was meant to have a cellmate according to regulations and
didn't and then his the individual who was his cellmate he was he subsequently
testified because he got released due to COVID. He said that he didn't believe that Epstein had killed himself because Epstein's quite tall and like you know
the bunk's not massive. So how would you hang yourself from the bunk? you would have to kind of like huddle down
like kind of like get down and then like sort of get on your like hold up your knees if you're Epstein's height in
order to hang yourself. So, it was it's difficult to imagine. I mean, the
circumstances of the someone accused of pedophilia or
sexually abusing minors, yeah, that there's a high risk of suicide there. But you demonstrated through your
analysis of the Bureau of Prisons documents that Epstein was consistently demonstrating that he feared physical
harm in prison and that he was averse to suicide and that his mental state was
consistently listed as sort of um you know temperate like like he was he was
just had had a had a stable mental state according to prison psychiatrists. So
there are a lot of questions there. I want to go back to something else you mentioned referring to Jean Luke Brunell
and the sort of the profering of women to Epstein's network because you
mentioned uh the other day that so many of these very young women came from the
Balkans. Yeah. Well, I mean I think that there's a lot of reference to the to the Balkans
and it's clear that he he had a preponderant interest in people from Eastern Europe. Now, I might that there's a there's a particularly creepy
reference where they're talking about how uh producing a children's book for Kosovo, which is this kind of state that
got wrenched out of um of Serbia following the NATO bombing in 1999. Um and he talks about how well there's a
million children there, which is like this tremendous resource. um and uh yeah like wanted to target them with um with
with with a children's book presumably with you know coded messages um you know of a suggestive nature um which is you
know deeply creepy but yeah it's again it's fits into this this disaster
capitalism um uh throughine in a lot of his communications is you know co Kosovo
was shattered um by NATO bombing and then um you know a prostitution industry basically exploded overnight locally
There was a lot it became a European center of child and people trafficking and there was a there's an amnesty
report from the early 2000s which finds that the primary source of cleonel for um sex workers in Kosovo was um NATO and
UN troops who were stationed there. Um and that you all of these brothel popped up like right next to their bases you
kind of makeshift shacks where um you know German and British and French and US soldiers could get their rocks off um
if they were bored. But I mean, you know, this again the same exactly the same thing happened in Ukraine post 1991
and it just got worse and worse and worse to the extent that even I think the Kiev Post which is you know very
progovern um outlet admitted in 2009 that Ukraine was this this hub for
pedophiles and and you know mail order brides and stuff. I mean this was the plan for Russia um after 1991 as well.
um that didn't quite work out um due to the election of a well the the seizure of power by a certain president in 2000.
Um but yeah, I mean it's quite clear that um he viewed um uh epste viewed uh
the you know the former kind of communist sphere in central and eastern Europe as this endless reservoir of kind
of human wealth that could be you know sold um you know tra traded uh loaned
out to people. Um it is of course I mean it seems that uh Bill Gates um got
involved in um uh very much with um you having affairs with women from Eastern
Europe that Epstein uh arranged for him. And then of course um Bill Gates demanded that Eple demanded that Epstein
get him uh you know medicine that he could surreally give to his wife because he gave her an STD he contracted from
one of the girls that Epstein hooked him up with. um which prompted Epstein to write write a note to himself saying
that he was disgusted with what Bill Gates was making him do. I mean maybe Bill Gates has denied this just just
you know so we don't get sued by his super governmental
structure. Bill Gates has this but you know Epstein wrote a note to himself about Bill Gates being getting STDs from
in his words Russian girls. Uh, this was the same year that Gates and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation introduced
its $100,000 condom challenge. [laughter] They were kind of like maybe like
crowdsourcing a solution. And Melinda Gates has denounced Bill Bill Gates for
kind of being a depraved individual. This is the real Russia Gates, I guess.
Well, I mean subsequent submission, but like I mean sub I mean subsequent to this, this is when Bill Gates gets
really interested in pandemic modeling and he's talking to Epstein about that. Um I mean there's all sort there's
there's other weirdness where um uh Epstein was like was pressuring a um an
academic and a biologist to um uh like really really dig into you know LGBT uh
research particularly with a focus on on trans and stuff. I mean, yeah, he he he
epste had his his his fingers in a in a lot of pies, it seems. I mean, there's there's one there's another email which
where a redacted name is asking him and Steven um Sikovsky who's like who was
the president of I think he was the president of Windows at the time um saying like I've got this idea to create a Somaliwood which would be like
Hollywood in Somalia and we're going to create like programming for local children and stuff which is I mean it's
just so unbelievably creepy. Yeah. Um and this is you know this is a conversation with someone who jokes
about what the French plur of pedophiles is. Um you know and does so quite readily
and you know and I mean in his conversations with man Manderson they were they were talk about how I think I
think at one point um Epstein says you're a naughty boy or something. It's just it's just so sick. Um and it's I
mean it's a lot to take on. don't think that I mean I'm I'm quite again I'm quite impressed with the fact that people haven't moved on from this
because my assumption was it would blow over quite quickly. I mean all of my social media feeds um you know all of my
conversations with people are just you pretty much relentless links and like photos from from from this tanch. There
is a lot of very interesting stuff in there. There's probably a lot of rubbish as well. Um you know as sickening as as
as visceral as a as a as a as a mental image as it is. I mean, I don't quite think that, you know, George HW Bush
raped a young boy who then went on to see uh people ripping out children's intestines and eating their feces. I
mean, I that's not I don't want that to be true, but do do you believe the references to
pizzas are references to children? I mean, it's kind of taken the the the
Pizzagate conspiracy back to uh, you know, to the I mean, it's at the point where Tucker Carlson is legitimizing the
Pizzagate conspiracy with Ian Carol. Well, I mean, they're quite clearly
salacious references. Like, I think there's one email where someone refers to how like he loved the pizza and the
cheese is still dripping down his chin. Um I mean again like is so horrendous
but I mean there there are a prepundonderant number of references to pizza it must be said. Um I don't necessarily think that validates the
entire um you know pizza gate uh theory but I mean it's quite clear that there was there used code words a lot and
there was also indications there were certain things that they couldn't discuss that that Epstein wasn't willing to discuss on email. So I mean they're
happy to you know boast about being a pedophile in private but you know there are certain you know offlimits areas. I mean I think in one email um and
Mandlesson asks uh Chumly asks Epstein how is freedom and he's like oh it's like soft and warm and you know it just
quite clearly you very clear sexual overtones to so many things that he said. Um but yeah, as I say I think
there's there is still a lot more to come out here because people have only I mean you know they've only been out for a few less I think it's a week. Um and
you know there's there is an enormous amount of stuff to get through. Um and yeah some of it will be rubbish but you
know other uh you know uh you know other material will be very worthy. I mean
again on the subject of you know creating content for children there was a there's a whole discussion that um
Epstein had with a futurist he knew um called uh his name's Hullman um and uh
where um yeah Pablo Hullman who's this uh you know this kind of digital guru
they were discussing creating um edutainment for children um and how to educate children using um video games.
There's a specific refullman specifically says, well, you know, um uh
if if you invest in a computer game for for teaching people, then you get the maximum brains for like the minimum
amount of money. I mean, of course, that would be, you know, abused to again presumably abused to disseminate
particular messages um to younger audiences. I mean, Epste himself was banned um under uh under an agreement
Microsoft had with New York authorities to to deplatform sexual offenders. Um and but but he was still using it for a
year before they got rid of him um you know on the basis of his on the basis of his prosecution um a few years prior.
But it's yeah, I mean it's all it's all just like really really weird. And I think there's another there's another there's another aspect of this which is
quite interesting which is X seems clearly a [ __ ] Like he wasn't a really smart dude and like in advance of
have you watched his interview with Steve Bannon for example? I was I was going to say like yeah it's
really bad. He does not come across well. And what makes it even worse is that based on his on on his released emails um uh in advance of this
interview, he was buying like investing for dummies and other books like kind of explainer books on finance in advance of
this interview because he wanted to look smart and he still comes across as a [ __ ] But I mean, you know, I don't his
entire backstory is quite clearly fraudulent and um you know, there's no way that he went from being this kind of
lowly math teacher to being on the board of Rothschild in a year. Um I think that he was probably chosen as someone who
yes had a prediliction for young girls. Um you probably had a lot of dirt in himself and then he was they just but it
was it was judged that he would be a very useful um you know uh kind of intelligence asset who could gather
information globally maybe you know secure compromat on people uh and uh and
probably wouldn't ask too many questions because a he wasn't that bright and b he himself was compromised. He can barely
form a sentence. I think there's, you know, the email style
is actually indicative of a lack of intelligence. And it isn't just something about the way elites do
business. Like he really just couldn't form a sentence. He writes in an idiotic way. He speaks in an idiotic way. He has
no gravitas. He has like almost no vibe at all and seems kind of smmy. And um in
in the interview with Bannon, he's you know he's he's unable to articulate
why he started the Santa Fe Institute. He's like it's I I did it I did it just to examine why ideas actually happen.
And you know a computer can tell us that it can train itself even better than a
human and do something better than a human can do. But I want to know why. So that's why I started that. And and then
he he he gets asked about the trilateral commission when he how he joined it at age 32 and he's unable to provide any
color about what took place inside the trilateral commission. So you you start to wonder
about him, but he was in the middle of a vast and powerful transatlantic
network. Uh the you know the what Cright Mills would have called the power elite.
Uh Janine Wedell wrote a book called um what are they the shadow elite or um you
know another important book understanding how power actually operates in the west and Epstein was in
the middle of it. I mean he should have he should have um I I don't I don't think he was on her radar at the time
but that's the value of these emails. I think it's the the value of the emails is you see who's actually in the room,
who's actually playing the game and what kind of depraved culture defines them
and how uh actually intellectually cretinous many of them are. I mean,
they're just like they're like kind of like chopra like cute girls, you know, I'm gonna
cute girls are real. Like of course this is the fraud who we know through Oprah.
All the spiritual frauds like Shmoolie Bautia we know of him through Oprah. Rabbi Schmoolie, Dr. Oz, we know of him
through Oprah. Dr. Phil, they're all a bunch of weird Zionist frauds. And of
course, Deepak Chopra was in Epstein's network begging Epstein to come to Israel. Um I want to I want to c can you
join us for another segment, but can I also ask you about two articles uh of yours?
Sure. because uh like if I turn you loose, we can we can just I can just let you go.
Um I mean, sure, you're an institution, but I want to kind of um Thanks, man.
organize this a little bit. Okay. Uh you just dropped a piece for us
about King Kura, which was a boy's home in Belfast, Ireland.
Yeah. the you raised the question of and it this is very topical. Your intro
leads with Prince Andrew and his relationship with Epstein, but it goes into this boy's home, which was the site
of a massive public scandal. And you raised the question of whether British intelligence was actually using this
boy's home as a center for sex abuse in order to establish honey traps to compromise powerful individuals. tell
us, you know, in five minutes or less about your your the piece you just published with us.
Yeah, sure. So, um it's in in in no small part based on a
conversation that I had with Chris Moore, who's this veteran, um BBC journalist who's been researching King Kora since 1980. Um it's uh yeah, I
mean, it's pretty dynamite stuff. There have been sus suspicions and allegations that King Kora was um it was this this
this this home for orphans in Belfast in occupied Ireland, British occupied Ireland and um for many years uh
speculation as well that it was used by the security and intelligence services and you know based on on um Moore's
research I mean that again it seems pretty irresistible um as a conclusion. There's all sorts of weirdness around it
where it's quite clear that the victims were being raped by um you know quite uh
you know powerful prominent figures um among them um Lord Mountbatton um who
was you know Andrew's great uncle Andrew took his surname interestingly um he was
Mount Batam was a kind of you know um uh kind of key key figure in Andrew's early
life um at one stage Andrew was uh tapped to potentially marry um a young
relative of Mount Battons who was like 16 um at the time um and um yeah it's
it's Mount Batton is the original surname of the the British royal family um and they changed it um because of
because of the war because they were Nazis. Yeah. Yeah. Because they were Nazis and they were German they were very German.
Um but anyway that's by the bite. Yeah. That so essentially like the Concura basically got busted wide open in um in
uh in 1980. Um and um the uh the people running it were sent to trial. One of
them was go was originally going to testify. Um this was this is a guy um called William McGrath who boasted to
his associates of working for British intelligence and knowing people within MI5 and MO6 who were running this dirty
war in occupied Ireland where they ran paramilitary groups on both sides of the conflict. Um and uh yeah that the the he
he boasted about that uh quite openly. when he was arrested, he said that he was going to um you know expose a lot of
inconvenient truths. When the case got to trial, he just actually pleaded guilty and then he and his two
confederates at the home got meager sentences despite the fact there was you this mountain of evidence that they'
systematically sexually abused young boys and pimped them out to uh big ticket clients like Mount Batton. Um and
um you know since then there have been multiple official investigations. Um there have been, you know, several police um probes that haven't really um
uncovered much of the truth. Although, I mean, if you read between the lines of the whitewash and the cover up, sometimes you can find the truth. And
there's a very there was a uh it was a historical um uh abuse inquiry which was
convened at the start of the last decade. Um they uh uncovered evidence that Morris Oldfield, who was the head
of um MI6 and was confirmed to uh be at least gay, if not have um proclivities
in the direction of young children, um frequented King. They uh and knew the um
uh knew the people running it very close uh you know, had a close relationship with them. The report admits that, but
is very quick to dismiss any suggestion that he was engaged in pedophilic abuse, which is quite weird. Again, as I say,
if you read between the lines, it's quite clear. Um, and yeah, I mean, the
this has kind of been a stain on Britain for a very long time. Um, the cover up continues. In April 2021, the BBC was
going to uh broadcast a documentary called Lost Boys. Um, which documents how numerous children vanished in
Belfast um during the troubles. And the the documentary concludes that all the cases are linked to abuse at Concora.
That got pulled at the last minute. Um you can still find its BBC web entry, but you know, it has not and likely will
never be broadcast by the the British state broadcaster uh for obvious reasons. And I might add that the uh
Moore uh told me that there are people involved in the company that made the production company that made the film um
had breakins at their homes. So like the coverup still, you know, obviously continues to this day. Um, uh, Prince
Andrew, the former Prince Andrew, uh, has no such luck because, I mean, he's been stripped of all of his titles. He's
been stripped of his ro, uh, his, uh, his royal lodgings. And, you know, a Buckingham Palace, uh, spokesperson in
response to all of the the, uh, disclosures about Andrew and and Epstein contained in new releases said, "Well,
it's up to Andrew and his conscience if he wants to tell the truth about what happened." So I mean you pretty brutally
thrown under the bus um uh by you know the British establishment because yeah again a sacrificial lamb which is not
you know presumably being offered up because they don't want people um digging deeper into the fact the bizarre
phenomenon of the British royal family having a vast profusion of pedophiles in their gene pool. Um, you know, I mean,
that's a very obvious question to ask about why that is and it's not being asked, but yeah, I mean, the media is
hammering him, hammering Andrew like you, pretty intensely. Um and I think that the you know it's in it's
interesting that it's kind of become you know allow uh allowable because as I reported uh for for for the gray zone a
few months back um you know for for many many years there were um you know open there was open speculation and indeed
you know kind of muttering in the media that Prince Andrew very much liked the company of young girls and um you know
he just carried on uh with he carried on a pace without this affecting his position when his ties that Epstein
emerged, you know, an official statement was put out by Buckingham Palace saying, "Well, um they barely knew each other
and they met a few times and they they weren't they were never friends after um uh Epstein got busted." Um which is
complete and utter rubbish um to say the least. Um they you know, Andrew allegedly went uh wanted to say goodbye
to Epstein in person and stayed with him for several days in New York and there was like a a dinner thrown in Prince
Andrew's honor. And this was allegedly because he was, you know, honorable and wanted to say goodbye in person and why
you would stay at Epstein's mansion when there's like an infinite number of luxury hotels and you
I love the excuses. It's like uh Nelly BS, Barry Weiss's wife, is saying uh she
was hanging out with Epstein just because she's a reporter and wants to know what these awful people are actually doing. And Katie Kurrick didn't
know who he was. Uh but Andrew, I mean, they were they were tight. They were
thick as thieves. They went on a walk in Central Park together. Uh, Kit, you mentioned uh earlier a very bizarre
email from uh Windows President Stevens. And if I [clears throat] don't know if
you can turn your notifications off. Yeah. No, I'm doing it now. Sorry. And I had a fun idea that, you know, we'll
start a a we'll start a film studio in the in the breakaway territory of Somali
land, which was just recognized by Israel, um is now a real geostrategic
target for the Zionist axis, uh called Somaliwood Studios with quote unquote
The Boys in LA. and they wanted to professionalize the African film industry and believed it might also be
fun fun. And they were talking about, you know, a World Economic Forum movement in Nigeria.
Um, you know, it's hard for me to extrapolate
the real meaning of this other than what they were seeking to do, which is to set
up some kind of um pro some kind of
film studios in Africa to influence young people there. Um, and you have a
forthcoming piece for us where you tie this to Sesame Street. Yeah, sure. you cons what you consider
to be a CI a potential a CIA mind control program are are you can prove to
our uh whatever normies are watching right now that you're not insane.
Yeah, I mean well I mean I did I did I did wonder whether you were going to send a van with people in white coats um after I submitted that [laughter] but
yeah like the uh I mean it's it is quite wild but you know this is all publicly
available information but no one's put the jigsaw pieces together. I think that there's a with the exception of you Jake
there's a research called Jacob Levich who did some did some great work into into the origins of um into the origins
of uh Sesame Street. Yeah, that I mean all of the people who were involved in creating Sesame Street were all people
who had worked in psychological warfare and propaganda for the military or intelligence services. Um, and this
included a um there was a uh there was um a psychiatrist called Chester M.
Pierce um who is this kind of uh very prominent African-American um who founded the Black Psychiatrist of
America the same year that that Sesame Street was broadcast. um and he worked uh on MK Ultra and conducted very
unethical human experiments on um unwitting and unwilling hum test
subject. Um uh there were you know many um MK Ultra uh experiments which focused
on children. Um the CIA was very interested in um create in uh uh
creating techniques for interrogation and torture that made people more childlike and therefore more you know
kind of open and susceptible to manipulation and uh uh and and you might
make disclosures they wouldn't otherwise um because they're quote unquote mature defenses crumble. Um and I mean so
that's one aspect of it but more generally if you look at the the found the publicly available founding documents of Sesame Street which were
written by this woman called Joan Ganskuni who was uh she was part she was tied to this anti-communist
uh journal called partisan review that was funded by the CIA and then she she decided to get involved in children's
television interestingly and and in these in these documents she openly talks about how they want to uh suppress
quote unquote aggression um in young children, particularly black black Americans. Um, and um, the a a one-year
review of of Sesame Street written in 1970, which appraised its its performance today, specifically noted
that it had managed that Sesame Street managed to effectively infiltrate the homes of a
vast uh, proportion of um, uh, you the population of various ghettos in major
cities. Um, and you know, people would sit there, children would sit there and watch Sesame Street kind of a go. They
were a captive audience and a blank slate, you know, combined. And that this
was perfect for beaming particular messages, um, you know, to, uh, you know, to them. And so, um,
excuse me. It was a very effective means at a time when, you know, there was significant racial tensions in the US
and, you know, major riots and like there were, you know, the civil rights movement was really picking up steam. um
you know it only only became emboldened with the killing of uh Martin Luther King in 1968. Um that yeah this was a
means of effectively creating very passive young children who you know wouldn't cause problems, wouldn't
complain, um would just kind of just tacitly accept ingrained racism and you
wouldn't ga engage in subversive political action. Um and you know it was it was viewed as very effective uh for
reaching these specific audiences. Um so I mean you know
It is a a matter of public record that the specific purpose of this show was quote unquote riot control from the
perspective of the military and intelligence propagandists who who created it. And they conducted research
which found you like music children were particularly susceptible to music and puppets and colors. Um and you know
that's why you know Big Bird exists. And then you know you fast forward to today and you know the the US has uh not only
exported Sesame Street to a number of foreign countries and you know they they very bizarrely they ran they they
created Sesame Street programming for for young people in Isbekistan to teach them to cope with the quote unquote new
normal um uh which is you know quite sinister. And then I think in after the
vaccine roll out at Elmo, there was a video of the red puppet getting a um an
injection and encouraging kids to do the same, which is like I mean again this this kind of passed by without anyone
really noticing it. It's deeply Israel. Sorry, Israel has a version of Sesame Street which
of course cultivates young people to join the Israeli military and explains to them
why they need to participate in the military. It's the with the same style of programming. So
yeah. Well, I mean it's it's been repeated over and over again and and and it's you know we were discussing how
Jeffrey Epstein had an interest in video games. I mean you that's the way to reach people now. But I mean for the you
a few years before that they were specifically talking about setting up a uh you know a um a Hollywood redux in um
in in Somalia. And I might add that Somali land, which is this kind of this breakaway territory, um that's uh yeah,
was recognized at the very start of this year by um Israel and has been in the running um for as a potential dumping
ground for refugees from Gaza. Um it's this very strange kind of barren um land
that's like very heavily it's very heavily penetrated by the British. So the British effectively can they run it
government, police, courts, military um you know they even draft legislation which gets adopted. the primary focus is
resource extraction. But the the the the Zionist fascination uh with um uh Somali
land goes a lot deeper and in during World War II there was a push by major Jewish organizations to create what was
known as the Harra Council which was this uh they they advocated creating a
Jewish state on the territory of Somali land and and justified this on the basis of Jewish scripture. Um and so I don't I
think that there's this kind of very strange religious fascination with Somalia Somalia and Somali land and it
keep it keep it keeps cropping up and you know that um Israel is the very first country to recognize um uh excuse
me it's very was the very first country to recognize Somali Somali land which has been gunning for international
recognition since 1991. Um Israel is moving quite quickly to forge economic and military relationships with
Somaliand. It's within striking distance of Yemen. um which you know is that's
you know quite clearly an interest for um Tel Aviv. Uh but but but also but also as well I think that there's a push
to get the US the US government to recognize smileand and when that happens I'm sure that most you know a
significant proportion of the world um you know which are the Washington's assorted international vessels will
probably follow suit. Um and you know that's that's a absolutely dire um
outcome for Somalia about which they're going to be extremely unhappy. Yeah. Um, so I think they're unhappy about having
been bombed over 20 times this year under orders from Trump. Uh, while the
background noise of that bombing reverberates in Minneapolis with, uh,
seven 7K cartel influencers descending on Minneapolis to paint Somali Americans
as the main architects of fraud in the United States. Um, now the Small
Business Association run by Kelly Laughafler is giving a huge palent
contract to Palunteer to investigate that. And you know, I was wondering, did Peter Teal pay any of those Nick Shirley
influencers to harass kids in daycarees? And uh, you know, is this is is there
some relationship there? And what about Kelly Laughler, who committed a massive
fraud of insider trading on the Senate Intelligence Committee where she was given a tip that the pandemic was going
to be declared, so she sold her stock and made $20 million just like that. Um
well, she's she's giving out these contracts, but this is the background noise for war on Somalia. Somali land is
geostrategically located. It is the perfect place from
where Israel can attack Yemen and advance the dream of regime change,
removing Ansar Allah, which defeated the US in a recent war. Uh it's a major
choke economic choke point. So it's obvious why they're focused on Somali land. So these emails are fascinating.

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And then, you know, your point about Sesame Street uh being
designed to program and indoctrinate young people into a particular point of
view to sort of particularly to neutralize the aggression and uh potential
revolutionary tendencies of inner city black Americans after the riots of the
late60s, the MLK riots. It connects to a
uh an email that some internet sleuths just discovered in this massive Epstein
trench which is so meaningful to me and just so amazing and it's from Jess
Staley when he was the CEO of Barlay's Bank. He's an American banker or some
would say bankster. This is after this is in you know just years after Occupy
Wall Street and after the financial crash and he's writing to Jeffrey Epstein you want to know why we are not
Sao Paulo and he's referring to I think a kind of color revolution which was
going on in Brazil in which masses of people were in the streets to remove Dilma you Dilma Rusev uh who was the
center-left social democratic president you Why we're not S Paulo? Watch the TV
ads on the Super Bowl. It's all about hip blacks and hip cars with white women. The group that should be in the
streets has been bought off by Jay-Z. Now, I don't know if he's literally
saying they were bought off by Jay-Z. Uh Jay-Z was really a symbol at that time
of neoliberal capitalism. He had made himself sort of a spokesman for the
financial establishment for Wall Street. He actually came into Occupy Wall Street and attempted to subvert it, co-opt it,
and essentially undermine it by introducing his own own his own brand, Occupy Wall Streets. Basically like, you
know, let's keep uh you know, young black people away from hating Wall
Street after their dream of home home ownership was just dashed forever. Uh
Jay-Z got some minority ownership stake in the Brooklyn Nets just so he could
kind of be a symbol of the Barlay's Center, which was named for the bank
that Jess Staley owned, but which also kind of g doomed uh that area around
Atlantic Yards and uh to massive gentrification and pushed what
was left of the black population there further out uh towards East New York
because it was this was a massive Frank Giri designed arena, the Barclay Center. So Jay-Z came in to kind of legitimize
that whole thing. So does he mean that they were literally bought off by Jay-Z? Jay-Z was at that time starting to pump
money into Ferguson into BLM. Was that like a plot to d to subvert Occupy Wall
Street by focusing everyone in on identity politics and race in place of
class? Look at where BLM wound up years later in nihilism, liberalism,
just a tool for the Democratic party against Trump.
And you you start to ask all these questions and you know it makes you a little bit conspiratorial. I don't know
what your reaction is, but this one hit really hard for me. Well, yeah. I mean, there was obviously
like pictures of um [clears throat] Puffy and Jay-Z um you know, uh snapping
photos with the Clintons and Bill Gates and Epstein. So, I mean, you never know. I mean, this is where this is where this
stuff takes you. Like, if you just do the the slightest bit of digging. I mean, just just really quickly on the Palunteer point as well. Yeah. I I just
the ubiquity of that company is absolutely insane. like they've been given they've been given British
government contracts um you know worth hundreds of millions of of pounds including like you handing over
sensitive NHS data to them. I mean this is you know Peter Theel's uh Batman
influence you know surveillance and spying tool that creates all of these you know very detailed databases on
people um and is used by you know a worrying amount of intelligence services in the military and is increasingly
being rolled out to you domestic um you know public facing stuff and um you know
Mandlesson was involved in um uh arranging a visit by Kier Dharma to
Pantier HQ and then um you subsequent to this uh the ministry of def uh the
ministry of defense gives Palanteer a 240 million contract but this is it's denied that there's any causal link
there whatsoever but I mean they are they are cropping up all over the place they're not it's not being talked about
at all um in uh particularly in in mainstream by mainstream politicians but
I mean the the British media is increasingly getting concerned about this which is quite interesting um and
uh yeah I mean again it's just it's it's it's quite of how this stuff works. And
I think that if if nothing else, the app files do kind of lift the lid on not on,
you know, how often how unsophisticated this stuff is. It's literally like, you know, one rich, powerful, awful person
speaking to another powerful awful person and setting up a meeting with someone and then the deal comes out of
it, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And it's like, you
know, I mean, yeah. Palanteer, a Palanteer and Oracle as well, which is, you know, another deeply shady firm
which has the the Trump administration is Larry Ellison's firm. Yeah. That they I mean they it was like
Palanteer and Oracle that got the the COVID contracts in the US, wasn't it? I mean Yeah. I mean it's it's deeply
creepy and you know this stuff is ratcheting all the time um without much in the way of you know public you know
knowledge let alone concern. Although I do think that the [clears throat] trying to get involved in um you know
like in you know uh private sensitive private health data is probably you know a bridge too far because I mean the
British still rever the NHS um even though it's been kind of driven into the ground in you know over the past well 30
years if not longer but I mean the the yeah it's it
is um you know quite quite extraordinary that this stuff h just happens without anyone really knowing about it. Um, and
you know, as I say, it's not sophisticated. It's not, you know, it's it's not like some highlevel extremely
slick PR and lobbying campaign. It's literally just messaging Jeffrey Epstein
who puts you in touch with, you know, someone else in his pedo rolodex. Um, and uh, yeah, I mean,
the whether um, anyone, you know, named is going to face, you know, criminal charges is, you know, is another
question. um you know perhaps the laws don't exist to actually prohibit this stuff aside from you know leaking
information like a civ directly directly to epsy that is illegal and you he could be could be got on that um a statement
demanding that people leave him alone notwithstanding yeah so [sighs]
there's so much there I uh I'm I'm almost like getting getting lost because
there there's there's so there's so many areas where we could take this uh but can you stay
for one more segment on Jeffrey Epstein's uh uh Jeffrey Epstein [clears throat]
actually being a Russian spy and that's really what this is about is Russia. Uh
this is sort of the the coverup that we're witnessing in real time being
played out through mainstream media. Uh what is it? The Telegraph dropped this
story. It started in British media MI6 adjacent media Poland to examine increasingly likely
possibility that pedophilia scandal was co-organized by intelligence services in
Moscow. Oh, really? Well, yeah, it it it seems increasingly
clear to everyone who wants to deny what this is, who Jeffrey Epstein's real
associates were, uh, that would be CBS News. You mentioned Oracle, Larry
Ellison, his son David Ellison at Paramount, buying CBS for Barry Weiss,
whose free press he purchased. Barry Weiss, the self-described Zionist fanatic whose life is dedicated to
promoting Israel, who's basically o also owned by the Palunteer and PayPal mafia. I mean, Joe Lansdale basically helps run
her fake university in Austin. She's uh Mark Andre's
PR agent. She's hosting all of these uh close Epstein associates on her new
network. She tried to get Ellen Dersowitz in a debate on gun violence with Dana Lo. I mean, who the hell wants
to hear that? And now CBS is introducing to the American public that it's actually Russia that's behind Jeffrey
Epstein. Poland says it's looking into possible connections between sex offender Jeffrey
Epstein and Russian intelligence services. The announcement came after the US Justice Department last week released millions more files related to
the federal investigation into epste. Okay. Well, I I just realized we always
get demonetized if we show anything from CBS because they actually don't want people to see what they broadcast
because the only reason it's going to show up on the internet is to be mocked. But it's clear what they're doing there.
Oh, the Washington Post. What do we got? Yeah, this is on the day that Netanyahu
is denying uh that Israel [cough] had anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein.
Epstein built ties to Russians and sought to meet Putin. Files show this is from, you know, that the P they laid off
like onethird of their staff and the rest of the staff is just there to pump out like MI6 CIA propaganda. I guess
that's why they didn't fire their um you know their their digital disinformation
editor, Joseph Men. Jesus Christ. We're in the wrong game, aren't we, Max? But um I mean in all
serious I mean in all seriousness I mean I think that what what's interesting this this did start in Britain. Um and
you know a number of uh a number of Brit you British the Daily Mail also.
Yeah. Yeah. a number of British newspapers which are you know among the worst newspapers in the entire world um
which is saying something um they they really ran with this and there it was quite interesting to see the mainstream
media jump onto it and then you have like the the the the leader of uh the this opposition party the Liberal
Democrats like openly saying that in parliament well um you know Epstein was
clearly linked to Russia so that creates like a massive national security risk with Mandlesson being so close to him. I
mean, maybe he was compromised by the Russians. I mean, it's complete and utter rubbish. And I might add that like Mandlesson also at one stage was like
offering to help Epstein get a Russian visa. I mean, it's quite strange spy that can't get a uh visa to Russia. And
and there's another point we made here as well, which is that didn't they couldn't get the visa and he was coaching him on how to
approach Putin and Putin didn't want to talk to him. Yeah. Well, I mean, he kept on trying to
meet with Putin. Um, and that's, you know, one of the reasons why he appears in the document so often, but also as
well, I mean, it's quite clear that Epstein was interested in in trying to groom um, uh, poor choice of words. He
was trying to groom um, opposition politicians in Russia because he was angry that Putin was a a stop to Epstein
making an enormous amount of money via, you know, potentially illicit means in the country. Um, so I mean, yeah, it's
it's complete and utterly farable. What's interesting is like how uh people see through this. Like I looked at the
Daily Mail's report on this, if you even call it that, and the comment section was full of like people saying, "This is
absolute [ __ ] Why are you trying Why are you breathing life into this
Russia gate corpse?" And I mean, in some cases, it has been you quite prominent. Russia gave like the complete lunatic
Peter Jukes who runs this very spooky publication by line by line times who
says that you know Putin's all over the emails. He was like this key Epstein contact. It's not true. Um and you know
Epstein himself as I mentioned he was in touch with people tied to MI6. He was tied in touch with people tied to Mosad.
Um he was of course you know in in close quarters with Ahood Ehood Barrick who I
might add as well um you know uh Barack has launched um this kind of flew under the radar. he launched this firm that
sells um facial uh like recognition technology, but also um it they've
created this technology that can hack into CCTV cameras in real time and replace the footage. Um so I mean one
might wonder why Barack would be so interested in such a resource. Um and you know in other emails Epstein openly
states I work for the Rothschilds. So, I mean, you know, I'm really
not seeing how, you know, in in any universe you could plausibly claim that he was he was tied to Russia. He quite
clearly had an in with Zilinski as well. Um, interestingly, Putin allegedly um
told Epstein or people within his millure that he thought that Zilinski was um controlled by Israel. And of
course um you Zilinski has tried to market future Ukraine as a you know as another Israel heavily weaponized
society that's um you know going to run around the world causing um chaos carrying out assassinations um at the US
behav um what's his name the the senior
Emirati oh Sullean bin uh his name I'm I'm
forgetting his name. I'll pull it up shortly. Yeah, but there's I mean this this uh
this Sulaman um he messaged um Epstein in the wake of uh the Mossad's
assassination of Ma Mammud Mabu um in
Dubai in January 2010. He and and he was very angry. He seemed very quite angry with Epstein and was saying this doesn't
help anyone. Sult. It's Sultan Bin Sule Man. And uh he's off to sample a fresh
100% female Russian on his yacht. He declares in an email to Jeffrey Epstein.
Yeah. Well, it's like Yeah. He in Sulleon says that this killing this assassination, this kind of daring
assassination in Dubai where like all of these Mossad agents like stole the identities of like British and Australian and Irish um uh citizens like
pretend to be Maboo. They killed a they assassinated a Hamas operative whose name was Maboo. uh
dressed they dressed as uh tourists and followed him into his hotel room dressed as um tennis like they were they were
wear holding tennis rackets the Mossad assassination team and then they failed
to be able to kill him. They tried to drown him in his bathtub. Then they tried to electrocute him and they failed
and it took hours for them to be able to finally strangle him. They stole Canadian passports which made a real
Canadians which made Canadians Canada's government even under Steven Harper the most
Zionist prime minister ever at that time uh very mad and uh so so so what what I
I missed this one. So what did he reveal? Well, no. I mean, in the email that that Sullean sends this this this
message to Epstein in the wake of his killing, saying that he wanted to had a bone to pick with Epstein over it and
said, "This doesn't help anyone. You why did Mossad do this?" So, he's clearly seen as a cutout between Mossad and the
UAE. I mean, Israel and the UAE have very close relations. Um, so I mean this was like you a specta spectacularly
brazen thing to do and and you ma massively pissed off um the uh the
governments of the assorted European countries where they and and Australia where they stole people's identities um
and claimed to be and and produced fake passports under those identities. And so
I mean yeah his Epstein's relationship with with Mossad is like pretty clear um
from the uh from the emails um you know uh it's there's there's all sorts of um
there's there are I mean on the subject of Epstein you not being particularly intelligent. I mean there are some
emails where he discusss he discusses his um contempt for the [ __ ] Um, and
uh, there's another um, there's there's there's a another email where he says
that he was sat down with some far right figures who claimed that Jews run the world. Um, and he was Epstein said,
"Name one." And they said, "You you've just had you like princes and presidents and like heads of government, you
passing through your apartment in a matter of days." Yeah. And he was like, "Oh, I guess I am the I
guess I I do run the world." You know, I mean, bizarre. Here's him. An exchange
between Epstein and Steve Bannon in 2018. Bannon says, "All roads lead to Beijing and Jeffrey Epste counters or
Tel Aviv." Which inspired the title of this live stream. Um Jeffrey Epstein's foundation donated
enormous well not enormous but substantial amounts to uh pro-Israel and
Israeli institutions including friends of the IDF which provides equipment to
the Israeli apartheid forces. Um the Jewish [clears throat] National Fund
which steals land from Palestinians. Hill Foundation.
Uh it's clear. I mean, why would It's clear that Russia was directing him to do this, right? And
yeah, absolutely. I love this one from uh Sky News. This is like the ultimate like who do you who
are you going to believe me or your two lion eyes. Newly released voice recording appears to show Jeffrey Epstein advising an unknown person on
how to approach Russian President Vladimir Putin. Any appearance in the Epstein files does not imply any
wrongdoing. I I got it wrong by the way about Mandlesson um being advised. So who's the unknown
person? They don't show any photo of that unknown person. Well, that's the former Israeli prime
minister and defense minister and head of military intelligence and most decorated soldier in Israeli history,
Mr. Israel, Ahood Barack. Yeah, why don't you tell us that? Yeah, indeed. Indeed. I mean it's that
that's that's an interesting feature as well is that like that the media is as m I mean in as far as I I can see the
British media is absolutely go is as much as it's going for Andrew and and Mandlesson it's not saying anything
about his connections to Israel and that's just kind of like unsayable in the media entirely. Um, and I mean, you
know, whether they've just whether there's something more sinister behind the the blaming Russia or it's just a
kind of go-to bad guy which uh gets the media off the hook for not talking about his connections to Israel. I don't know.
I mean, laughable stuff, though. It's clear if it's Donald Tusk pushing
it that there's an interest in trying to implicate Russia and trying to turn the
public's attention back to hating Russia. It's clear that that's first and like
one of the primary objectives here. But there's also a clear objective to deflect from the obvious which is that
he is he surrounded himself with pro-Israel figures and
Israeli figures. He hosted the current president of Israel is Isaac Herzog on
Epstein Island in 2014. Ahoud Barack was one of his closest confederates as you
said, Kit. They were working on setting up a palunteer-like surveillance firms
together. Uh here's an email of a list of just a list of people for Steve
Bannon. You can see who's on it. I mean, you can just go to Jmail and just search any name and you'll find just endless
pro-Israel figures in hisstead. Teal Hoffman Salsberger, the head of um the
publisher of the New York Times, Mandolen Barack.
Yeah, I I might add as well. I I I discussed how um Barack like runs this
this firm called Ter which you know can edit edit CCTV. This is actually like a
burgeoning um uh kind of cottage industry in Israel at the moment. there's like a lot of focus on AI
powered video creation and editing technology and usually these firms like you know run by people who are like
alumni of unit 8 82 82000 uh or uh the um you know the the the occupation force
uh you know cyber cyber units um and you know you've got to ask yourself well you know why are they so interested in
editing real real time footage um and is the question is is is the answer because
um you relying on AI removes the kind of troublesome human element inherent in
old-fashioned intelligence agency hunting traps. Um, and you know the
whether this solves the problem of you know needing a a real life individual to see oversee the this kind of operation
and targets take the bait so you can just you know create fake blackmail material. I mean the CIA has a history
of try of of of making fake sex tapes of of foreign leaders they don't like. is not that much of a stretch. Um,
yeah, I mean we I mean we're already kind of in we're already, you know, through the looking glass with Sesame Street and everything.
So I suppose, you know, all is permissible. This was definitely a a deep dive. Uh,
just one of the key key takeaways is the Israel connection, the pro-Israel
connection. That can't be emphasized enough. It looks like Epstein helped
coordinate Robert Craft's legal defense. That's the owner of the New England Patriots, who has a a program to take
his players to Israel. Craft is an archionist mega donor. Uh he was
arrested for soliciting prostitution at a jerk shack or tugandrub joint in
Florida, I believe, in 2019. And uh yeah, Epstein emailed both Bannon and
Ahood Barack about it. Uh Mitch Weber, who's on the board of the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, where
uh war criminal Elliot Abrams has also served, was giving it. I I don't know the context of this email, but on the
surface of it, it looks like he was giving Epstein advice on exploiting jurisdictional differences and age of
consent laws to have sex with minors. Again, I would like to see the full context of that email thread. You have
Alan Dersuitz who is Epstein's lawyer and friend who maintains that he kept
his underwear on during massages on Epstein's island who was nominated actually a lot of people missed this by
Netanyahu for the uh position of Israel's UN ambassador but didn't take
it because he didn't want to give up his US citizenship and likes being in Martha's Vineyard more than he does
being in Israel even though he can't buy perogis there anymore. a confidential human source told the FBI that Durowitz
uh was on the phone constantly with Mossad to and he was debriefing Mossad.
Uh there's a separate um CHS document on how Trump has been co-opted by Israel
that I'll go over a little bit later. I actually think I have an idea of who that confidential human source is. It's
someone who's been in the room with a lot of these figures who have been named here and who has definitely some
credibility issues, some legal serious legal issues. Uh, and I reached out to
them to ask if they were this confidential human source and didn't hear back probably because of legal
issues. Um, but this is someone who I think knows what they're talking about.
Um, you know, the Galileain Maxwell connection is just so obvious. Who is
her father? Robert Maxwell, who was known to be a Mossad asset, had a de
facto state funeral in Israel. Um, and there's a bizarre poem that
Gileain Maxwell authored after 911 that comes out of these uh where she says uh I mean there's it
is poetic in a way. It's Gmax. She's Gmax. Yeah.
It's the year 2020 2032 and a father and his son walk the streets of lower Manhattan approaching the site where the
World Trade Center used to be on the end of the 20th century. In the end of the 20th century, the father size and
comments to think that right here used to be the Twin Towers. The son, not understanding, asks his father, "What
are the Twin Towers?" The father smiles and looks at the son and explains, "The Twin Towers were two huge buildings that
used to be here until 2001 when the Arabs destroyed them." The son looks up to his father and asks, "And what are
the Arabs?" I don't know if this was like some chain email going along going around like spread by like Zionist
boomer uncles and aunts, but uh and what are the Arabs basically that the Arabs
have been totally exterminated is the takeaway from this by 2032.
Um well, I guess they started with Gaza. But uh interestingly, when I've been in Gaza during bombings, what people say is
where are the Arabs? because they feel totally sold out by the main Arab states. Whether it's, you know, the
Amiradis and the Saudis or the Egyptians, they feel totally sold out by
everyone except for those pesky Shia Arabs in Lebanon and uh the
Yemeni Houthi. Uh but I think she's saying the Arabs are gone. And this really speaks to a
certain genocidal mentality. I mean, it's just too obvious that that's that
he was in it deeply immersed in a very Zionist culture and we need to we need to have a conversation about that and
that these emails are they're bad for the Jews. Uh Chsky, too. I mean, we should quickly
we should quickly cover Chsky and then I'll let you go. Um because I know it's it's late where you are and I want to cover two other
topics before I go. But uh you know Nam Chsky
uh he you know he helped me in some ways deprogram myself from conventional
liberalism when I was much much younger even though I look just like a model of
youth right now. I was once much younger and more naive and Chsky's work was is
very accessible. It's kind of like the radical author that you're presented with when you demonstrate an interest in
ideas outside the mainstream to the left. Uh, you know, I was in Los Angeles. His lectures were constantly on
the local Pacifica network, KPFK. I wasn't uh, you know, I I I kind of
knew about Michael Pari. His work was floating around, but it wasn't, you know, quite it wasn't it wasn't quite as
heavily promoted as Chsky. And Chsky did some seinal
published some seinal works. He did a great book um on military humanism uh in
the 90s when there was when very few others were questioning it. Michael Pary being one, you know, the destruction of
Yugoslavia. But Chsky also celebrated in his own kind of subdued way the fall of
the socialist block. uh you know he had a some great lectures for Hey Market on
US imperialism in Latin America. But then you know later in life after he met
his new wife Valeria he started to kind of sell a lot of those views out he
actually effectively called for regime change in Nicaragua after 2018. He was
presenting a very puebla group center-left analysis of Latin America
late in his life. I think he signed some letter uh on Syria advancing regime
change there. I I he might have withdrawn his name. Can't quite remember that one. He was writing articles in the
nation undermining the BDS movement. And all along he was having these meetings
with Ahood Barack which were brokered by Jeffrey Epstein.
And now we learn in this latest tranch of emails that he was giving Epstein advice on kind of how to beat the the PR
attacks on him for his um sexual abuse charges and the overall reputation he'd
earned. And Chsky is just dismissing it all as some kind of fiction,
which is really disturbing. I believe his wife Valyriia referred to Epstein as a hero in another email.
Um, and I mean both both Chsky and his wife were really excited about going to they were
like really excited about going to uh Epstein's um uh properties. I think at
one stage Chsky described himself as how he was thinking hard about um visiting
one day. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what are your thoughts
uh on what what happened? I think we can't overlook the fact that Chomsky
while he was a harsh critic of Israel's government and and also did that you
know came in at a time when there were very few Jewish critics of Israel's government still had some kind of latent
sympathy for Zionism which enabled him to form this friendship with Ahoud Barack where they were traveling
together and friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and there was a certain kinship there uh obvious also Jeffrey Epste was
helping handle his finances when he was very old. And I believe based on what I've seen, I don't have any inside
knowledge that his wife was a factor and played a kind of malign role here, but I
mean what just Yeah. What are your thoughts on Chsky and how this impacts his legacy?
Well, I mean I think I mean there's part of me that's kind of glad that it came out while he's still alive. Um although I mean he's obviously, you know,
desperately um ill. Um I I mean the the the I do think that like some of his
communications with with um Epstein are like pretty bad. Like I I I mean that's
you know not necessarily to diminish um you know his his past but I mean when he
when he when he discusses um media strategy um with Epstein about you know
how to respond to the very real allegations that he is this sex sexual predator. And I might add, this is
another interesting angle that we didn't get into and I won't spend too much time on it, but I mean there are some email there are some emails where it's clear
that Epstein was like paying people to um completely gain Google searches. So
like references to his arrest and uh jail uh imprisonment didn't come up and
that his Wikipedia was completely cleansed of any references to it as well. Um and this was ongoing and he
spent a significant portion of money on this. But the point is is yeah he consult he seemed to have consulted Gnome in the kind of this is in the last
months of his life interestingly. So he was quite clearly obsessed with like you beating trying to redeem himself and you
know clear his name even though he was guilty of sin. And then Chomsky says, well, you know, I mean, there's a
hysteria that has developed about abuse of women. Um, which has reached the
point that even questioning a charge is a crime worse than murder, which is just like some reactionary [ __ ] that you
kind of comes from Bill O'Reilly or, you know, some kind of like farright figure. But it's like I I mean I I it strikes me
that Chsky is someone who does really enjoy like kind of, you know, speaking to as broad array of people as possible.
Um he uh Epstein did assist him with it seems that there was a family member who
was ripping off Nam Chomsky and not giving him his money out of his pension. Um and Epstein investigated this for him
and like you know I mean Chomsky is always keen on you know meeting um uh uh
people if he disagrees with them so he can talk. I mean he was you know very controversially although I respect the
fact that he did this. He he did actually, you know, uh spoke up for um Robert Forest on the who was this kind
of f this vile French Holocaust den. But Trump made the point that well he has a right of freedom of speech and he has
the right to use that freedom of speech to make himself look stupid and destroy his own credibility which I think is a
you know a a fair um principle. I might add that you know across Europe like
it's illegal to do that. Um, and he caught a lot of flack for that, but it was brave. You know, it was it was in
defense of free speech. Um, and so, you know, I I can imagine how he probably
got some kick out of meeting with Steve Bannon. You know, that doesn't mean that he's necessarily working with Steve
Bannon or for him. Um, he probably just saw as an opportunity to meet someone interesting and famous. Um, whose views
he didn't agree with. It's quite clear from some of the other communications as well that I mean uh he was challenging
some of the stuff that Epstein said um about you know the economy, finance,
politics etc. So I mean he wasn't this completely um uh what's the word um he
he he he he wasn't like um submissive to Epstein at all. Although I mean the fact that the
allegations against him or the charges against him even were like you know well known and a matter of um I mean this is
this is I think this this may well be as a result of you know Julie K. Brown's reporting for the Miami Herald which um
led the apparently led the DOJ to like reopen their case against him and let you know that led to his arrest and then
you know imprisonment and death but um yeah it's it is still quite bad. Um and
you know you would think you would you would hope that he has some uh uh statement forthcoming on this um because
it is quite strange. I also think as well that in one of his emails he me I've seen he mentions have I think he
might mention having investments in Israel like when they're talking about his like kind of monthly out maybe it's
like some donation or something but it's I I remember seeing a reference to Israel when he's discussing his finances. Um and you know um so that
that might be another you know rabbit hole to collapse down another point Max. Um but I I mean I I think in in some
like this is still you know a developing emerging story and it's been quite wild
watching this unfold in real time. I don't think it's actually contrary to my belief that this would blow over. I
don't think it's going anywhere. Um, and I think there's a kind of before and after with the with the Epstein
releases, uh, because we we've been confronted with the reality of who Western elites are. And it's, you know,
worse than, you know, Alex Jones ever told us. Um, you know, I mean, they they literally are a bunch of satanic
pedophiles. Um, who, you know, uh, have all sorts of, you know, cultlike
obsessions with young children. Um, not just not just for sex, but that's a big part of it.
[sighs] Well, I think Valyriia Chsky has some
splaining to do and she can speak. Nam Chosky is clinically unable to speak or
write. He was taken out of hospice a few months ago and is still alive, but
she's able to speak and isn't really saying anything. Um, but it's this is
something that's more interesting to people who've been in the left and been around the world of radical and
dissident politics is that is the fall from grace of Nam Chosky is much harder.
It's much more unpalatable than emails from figures who we knew to be morally
depraved or political sli or to be political slimes or ardent defenders of
the establishment or icons of the financial elite. Noom Chsky is someone
who attacked these elements throughout his career in a very articulate and
methodical way and also as you mentioned Kit during the for affair put himself
forward as an anarco syndicicalist free speech absolutist who really upset me
when in his late 80s I guess during the
the pandemic COVID event He called for the unvaccinated to be put in
concentration camps. I guess, you know, I joked in uh one of my standup bits that, you know, I guess he's so old that
he actually saw the fiddler on the roof play live on the roof. So, it's kind of understandable.
Um, and I made the obvious manufacturing of consent joke there. I was first to that. Um, go back and check the
I think you should start suing the people who are copying you, Max. I mean, I've se I've seen that mean a lot. manufacturing the age of consent. But um
yeah, but I mean it's such a it was such a betrayal of his reputation as a real
defender of human freedom. He he wrote a book on anarco syndicalism as the you
know the the the ultimate means to the fulfillment of human freedom and rights
and then you know by the end he was a branch covidian fascist medical fascist
and you know so was much of the institutional left. I mean, they were
celebrating the fulfillment of the pandemic plans that were put forward by Bill Gates and Epstein and the World
Economic Forum years before. And I wonder if the left today after all of this viewing all these files
and I I think they might actually understand differently
the the the lockdowns and the acceleration of the G great reset and
wouldn't be so dismissive of you know criticism of it after this whole saga of
just wallto-wall Epstein files, which is all anyone's talking about until Trump
bombs Iran on behalf of Israel, which might be coming soon and which is what
I'll discuss next. kid, if there's anything you want to
um I mean I was gonna I was I mean I was just gonna say on that last point that like I mean I I think that that was like
I mean I I I started my Spidey sense about Chsky started tingling a bit when he like openly came out in favor of like
the Arab Spring and saying it was like this wonderful like upsurge of people power when in reality you a series of
like you know big tech orchestrated coups that like you know brought brutal governments to power um as we've written
about in like a giant cut in a giant cuttery info op. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. But it's I
mean I think that when he that was really I thought I I thought either he's lost his marbles or you know so there's something deeper a foot here when he
when he made these co statements because on top of the fact it's just like horrendous thing to say. This was at a time when the C there were there were
doctors tied to the CIA who were openly talking about uh the how hospitals
should bounce people who haven't gotten vaccinated to the end of uh the queue for or the end of the line for US
viewers um for like operations um and and healthcare and stuff which was like
effectively you know endorsing people dying um you know from preventable
diseases because they hadn't they they had the temerity to not get vaccinated. Um I mean that was you know that was
like pretty bad but um yeah I mean it doesn't necessar it doesn't ne again it doesn't necessarily mean that he's you
know um on payroll um it just means that he's you maybe a bit over the hill but
um on that bombshell thanks so much for having me on Max it's been real um I think that was pretty decent as far as
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All right. Yeah, someone's calling me crazy. The vaccine
was intended to save millions. Well, it didn't do it, did it? Wasn't
even a vaccine. A vaccine actually prevents infection and transmission. And uh I'm not allowed to say on YouTube
that that didn't because also what was brought with the
mandates and the lockdowns was massive online censorship like we've never seen before. an entire
industry of censorship. I mean, come on. How can anyone believe
that anymore? Or Operation Warp Speed. That wasn't
just a way of stripping the public of more
of our wages paid into taxes to just pay into
big tech and big pharma to create something that ultimately didn't work,
depriving thousands and thousands of people of jobs for not complying with something that wasn't working. And now
it's pretty clear that this was not just planned at John's Hopkins University
in a pandemic tabletop exercise in September 2019, but that Bill Gates was
putting it forward years before in his discussions with the Epstein class and
Bill Gates and other techfocused AI warlords
made billions because the economy was fully reoriented
through this great reset plan to benefit them. Their wealth surged
during the pandemic during the COVID event. So, if you're not questioning that at this point, you're not looking back with a critical eye, uh you're
pretty much doomed for the future. And uh you know I have I have some
just a thought that I've been having viewing this whole discussion about the
Epstein files that's raging on every social media site especially on Twitter
X where it's like all it's my entire timeline is that
people are ascribing the worst characteristics to the financial and political elite
that rule us um that have unprecedented power and wealth as they consolidate
a system of oligarchy, including that they are pedophiles. Like it's become more mainstream. It's not
just QAnon. It's become more mainstream to refer to them as a pedophile elite. But no one's doing anything
like nothing's happening in the real world. I'm not saying no one's doing
anything, but I mean,
what's going to happen? What will the consequence be for them? How will they be held accountable?
Or did everyone just get uh bought off by Jay-Z, as Jess Staley, former CEO of
Barclays, quipped in an email to Jeffrey Epstein?
That's a question I'll leave that disc that's the question with which I'll leave everyone as we move on to Iran
very quickly. I'm kind of going over time here, but uh
Jared Kushner and Steve Witoff, who hold no formal
position in the Trump administration, are negotiating through Oman's foreign ministry
in Oman with Abbas Arachi, the foreign minister of Iran down the hallway, I
think. Um Kushner shook hands with Aragchi in a sort of breach of protocol,
but they are exchanging notes through the Omani foreign ministry as they negotiate over Iran's nuclear file,
apparently over Iran's ballistic missiles. Here's some photos of Kushner and Steve
Witoff with the Omani foreign minister,
you know, raising a lot of questions.
And the whole reason this is happening is because Donald Trump has decided to threaten Iran with war because he's
being nudged by Israel, by Netanyahu, and by his largest donors, Miriam add,
Ron Lauder, a figure who's named constantly in the Epstein files as an associate of Epstein, who was part of
Netanyahu's mega group of millionaires and billionaires that would support his political fortunes from within the US
while pushing pro-Israel institutional activism across the West.
Um, this this is only happening because Israel is demanding that the US attack
Iran, which poses no threat to US national security. This is only happening because the US
instrumentalized protests to ferment riots alongside Israeli intelligence and
I would assume British intelligence which left thousands dead.
Two days of rioting from January 8th to January 9th. And as Wyatt Reed and I
detailed in an article at the Greyzone, the number the death toll has been
fabricated and concocted by sources close to the clown prince Resa
Palvi who incited those riots calling for Iranians to kill government workers and kill government media workers and
take over institutions. Trump called for Iranians to take over institutions. Uh
the sources monarchist sources are pushing this phony death toll of 30,000.
US media started reporting it in Time magazine. Then the Guardian began reporting it to sort of legitimize it
through the voice of the left liberal London intelligencia. And then EU
ministers followed by designating the IRGC as a terrorist organization to give
European a European green light to a US attack on Iran on behalf of Israel. and
it's being stalled through negotiations in Oman.
The idea that Iran would give up its ballistic missiles. Wait, wait a minute. Actually, let me uh make one quick point
about those protests. Scott Bent, the US Treasury Secretary for the second time
after saying this sim something similar in Davos has taken credit for the protests which mutated into very violent
deadly riots in Iran through the uh instrumentalization of sanctions or
financial terrorism against the Iranian economy. And this is his most blatant
confession yet. the Treasury and what we have do have done is created a dollar
shortage in the country. At a speech at the economic club of New York in March, I outlined the strategy. Uh it came to a
swift and I I would say grand culmination in December when one of the largest banks
in Iran went under. There was a run of the bank. The central bank had to print money. Uh the Iranian currency went into
freef fall. Inflation exploded. And watch the woman nodding behind him over here.
Currency went into freef fall. Inflation exploded and hence we have seen the Iranian people out on the street. We
will continue monitoring all the partners the all the Iranian partners.
Uh the good news senator is that we have seen and we can see it uh with our
fencing at Treasury. So, I mean, he admits it again that
sanctions were designed to destabilize Iran and drive riots. And he's taking credit for the riots. These were not
peaceful protests. This was a bridge between the 12-day war and the coming assault on Iran.
And in many ways, the riots themselves were a more devastating act of war on Iran than
uh Israeli assault an Israeli assault last June 2025 because it pits Iranians
against one another. It pits neighbor against neighbor through economic warfare, through desperation. And that's
what many Iranians are telling me is that this was much more psychologically
damaging because it's coming from within their own society. reminds me a lot of what uh took place
in Nicaragua in 2018 which the Nicaraguan government defeated.
But these negotiations are ongoing. Steve Witoff whose family is very close
to the Zionist movement. Steve Witco, who praised uh the former director of the Mossad at a fundraiser
for uh United Hut Salah, the Israeli pseudo rescue group, which hyped up a
lot of the October 7th hoaxes, is there with Jared Kushner, the presidential son-in-law, who's overseeing the Board
of Peace to transform Gaza into a series of high-tech, biometrically enforced concentration camps and data centers.
Jared Kushner literally was in bed with Netanyahu
or almost when he was a boy. His father Charles Kushner fraudster was pardoned
by Trump is now the ambassador to France. His father used to host Netanyahu when
Netanyahu was in town in New York and he was the opposition leader and Jared would be asked to give up his bed so
Netanyahu could stay over in his bedroom and I guess Jared would like sleep on the couch or somewhere else. So that's
how close Jared Kushner is to Israel. And these are the two figures negotiating on behalf of the US with
Iran. What is Iran being asked to do? They were being asked to give up some of their ballistic missiles, especially
their long range ballistic missiles at a time when they're introducing a new hypersonic missile which can reach
targets in Israel in less than five seconds. They're being asked to give up their deterrence just as Gaddafi gave up
his deterrence and was met with bayonets
in his backside by NATO backed death squads. Literally backed by NATO. The
Libyan Islamic Fighting Group was under NATO air cover when they beheaded
Gaddafi's guards and sodomized him with a bayonet. is Gaddafi's the price he paid for normalizing and giving up his
deterrence. The Syrian government struck a deal to
give up its chemical weapons. Well, there no there's there's almost no longer a Syria and they've been replaced
with a rebranded al-Qaeda government. What what reward will Iran get if it
gives up its ballistic missiles or it stops enriching uranium
and gives up on potentially becoming a breakout nuclear power?
It's it's pretty clear Iran will be destroyed as a country and bulcanized and they can't do that. They're not
going to do it. So I expect these negotiations to fail given how
compromised the US negotiators are, the real forces that they represent, the demands the US is making, and the
position that Iran has been placed in where after seeing what took place in
Venezuela, I think it's pretty clear that the only language that the US and Israel
understand is force. If you do not use force, they will come in and kidnap your
head of state or kill them and then take over your country.
And if uh Trump's operation in Venezuela had gone wrong and there was a Blackhawk
down incident, I don't think I don't think Donald Trump would even be attempting this in Iran.
But he was on uh some kind of psychological high after an operation in
which troops literally special forces literally marched into Caracus and picked up the
head of state and his wife as though they were catching an Uber. So Iran has to demonstrate strength here
and deploy real force. And the message they are sending is that if the US attacks attempts to
assassinate its leader, there will be a regional war and all of Iran's regional
cards, the popular mobilization forces in Iraq, the Yemeni and Sarah, they will
be put on the table and Iran has been conducting naval exercises in the straight of Hormuz, major economic choke
point. the global economy will suffer massively and will all be because Israel decided to activate Trump to carry out
this war. Donald Trump, who is referred to
in one of the most interesting recent Epstein files as having been co-opted by
Israel, according to FBI file 1023
and a confidential human source. And again, I think I know who that source is, but I can't confirm it because they
won't respond to me. Uh, that Trump has been co-opted by Israeli
influence networks with Jared Kush functioning as the central power broker during Trump's first term. The CHS
report comes from an FBI validated informant, giving it a higher credibility threshold.
Here it says, "Kushner is the real brains behind his organization and his
presidency." Um, there's also an interesting section
here. Habad is doing everything they can to co-opt the Trump presidency. Habad is basically state sanctioned Judaism.
Uh, on the day Trump was elected president, Ivanka Trump and Jared were at the grave
site of Rabbi Schneerson, who is the most p powerful rabbi in the Kabad network. Jared didn't disclose his stake
in Cadre because of its ties to the Russian state. CHS believed this was is
the real Russian collusion story. Kushner, it goes on, but yes, Jared
Kushner is heavily involved with Habad. I think Habad helped convert Ivanka to
Orthodox Judaism. Habad is a settler, a fascistic settler oriented
religious nationalist cult that believes that the late Rabbi Manakahim Schneerson may be the Messiah. And many Trump
affiliated figures and Trump administration cabinet level secretaries
are kabadnik. One of them besides
um Jared and Ivanka, you have Howard
Lutnik, the commerce secretary. Here they are.
They're paying tribute to Manakim Schneerson at his grave. Lutnik brought Trump to the grave. By
the way, who was Lutnik's neighbor in New York? It was Jeffrey Epstein. And Jeffrey Epstein and his buddy Les Wexner
from the mega group helped Howard Letic buy that townhouse.
And Lutnik's sons are involved in all kinds of shady business deals through Trump incorporated.
This is such a bizarre scene. So that confidential human source I think was really on to something.
It's Netanyahu who wants this war with Iran. It's Israel's military intelligence
apparatus and the US military is functioning as their
proxy in this case. So I expect war. I wouldn't be I
wouldn't be shocked if these negotiations fail and it and and a war with Iran would be
potentially devastating for the region, for the global economy. There's no
reason for it at all from an American point of view.
I mean, from the point of view of a realist American point of view,
very quickly, I wanted to touch on Venezuela. Um, I just heard from a friend who is at
a gathering of oil industry executives. I'll be reporting on this a little bit later. It was not an on there meeting,
and none of them are particularly interested in going into Venezuela. They consider it an unstable environment.
They were not pushing for this. It really was the Gusano industrial
complex based in South Florida that for ideological reasons wanted regime change in Venezuela,
wanted the operation that saw Maduro and his Nicholas Maduro, the president of Venezuela, the UN recognized president
and his wife Celia Flores kidnapped. And following that kidnapping, Donald
Trump and Secretary of Start State Marco Rubio, who is the deacto leader of the
Gusano industrial complex, announced that the new president, the acting president, Deli Rodriguez, would do
whatever they wanted. So there was no regime change. They just threatened Deli
Rodriguez and the Chavista movement and the Pesu party that controls the
government with another military invasion and possibly their own
assassinations if they did not pass a new hydrocarbon law invalidating the uh
reforms to the Pereza State Oil Company of Venezuela enacted by Ugo Chavez in
2007 and making it possible for the US to serve as a custodian of Venezuela's
oil profits in a private account in Qatar held outside the purview of the
American public. A very kind of Epstein-like arrangement
that's unregulated, corrupt, a slush fund.
But the Venezuelan leadership had very little choice here unless they wanted to go to war with the United States again.
and they're being promised some kind of sanctions relief. There will be revenue.
Deli Rodriguez was essentially forced to meet with CIA director John Ratcliffe,
who reportedly told her to eject the Russians, to start cancelling business
deals with Russian companies like Luke Oil and Ross Neft, which are involved in the Oronokco oil belt to cancel deals
with China around Belt and Road infrastructure, mining, etc.
to deal with the US exclusively at the point of a gun. Newsmax, which is a
ratchet right-wing quasi news propaganda network that
answers to the White House and is sponsored by the Israeli Foreign Ministry run by longtime
conservative hatchet man Chris Ruddy has sent a reporter to Caracus who may be the first to interview Deli Rodriguez.
This will not be journalism. It'll be an interview conducted at the point of a gun essentially literal information
warfare. So you have to kind of pity the position
that the Venezuelan leadership finds it in as they try to hold on
to the social programs and the communes
that they had established starting under Chavez and to be able to plow some of
the revenue that they're going to receive back into the social sector. That's something Deli Rodriguez has
announced she's going to do. But you also have to question what kind of leverage the US regime has over Deli
Rodriguez, which they're using to extract these kinds of major concessions. And one of them, of course,
is the threat of military interv invasion. But I actually think, and I'll
be reporting on this hopefully by tomorrow. My schedule's kind of tight.
Uh, but I have I've gathered some information on this. I think
there's a possibility that the US has a secret indictment of Deli Rodriguez and
it's the same thing the US has used to twist the arms of Latin American leaders
before her. Um, there was also uh Lenin Moreno, one of the biggest sellouts in
Latin American history, who was the vice president of Raphael Korea in Ecuador
when the pink tide tide was at its height, the sort of social democratic pink tide, who sold out Korea and then
helped participate in the jailing of Assange
uh as well as, you know, the jailing of Jorge Glass, the sellout of the entire
Cordista movement. They were what was being held over his heads his head were were um documents
demonstrating corruption known as the ENA papers. Corruption I think in the oil sector in Ecuador and it was
eventually released anyway in 2019 after he was leaving the stage. So you you
know they're always going to come out with it just like the indictment against Maduro which also names Diosado Cabo. So
that's they're using that indictment as leverage against an active minister in the Venezuelan government, Diosado
Caveo. There was a secret indictment of Julian Assange. Remember when Assange was in
the Ecuadorian embassy and James Ball from the Guardian, this former Wikileaks
mole comes out and says there's Julian Assange has nothing to fear. When Julian Assange was saying all along, there's a
secret indictment. There's a secret indictment. And they called him crazy.
They were the the secret indictment was authored and introduced in uh Northern
Virginia federal court the day after or the day that the CIA learned that Julian
Assange was planning to escape from the embassy uh to a third country.
So, secret indictments are something that the DOJ uses to extract and
concessions and control leaders probably around the globe. And I think we need to
question if there's one hanging over the head of Deli Rodriguez who helped
restructure Pereesa to beat sanctions. You know, when you hear, oh, the the
criminal Deli Rodriguez or the crimes of the Venezuelan state, the criminal Venezuelan state, you'll see that in all
of these State Department backed phony journalism groups like OC OCCP
and uh Armando Info, the crimes are just them circumventing
sanctions and the sanctions are the real crime. So you set them up with sanctions
and then when they try to circumvent them as Deli Rodriguez effectively and masterfully did actually growing
Venezuela's economy under massive sanctions through oil sales through a ghost fleet just like Iran has to have.
You have to have a ghost fleet of ships to get your oil out and then you sell it at bargain basement rates to countries
like China just to keep your country from collapsing under US sanctions. Then they accuse you of crimes because you're
cheating. But the real crime is the sanctions. And who authorized the sanctions? Nobody but the Treasury
Secretary. It's not like they go to the UN and uh you know go to the
the UN Security Council or they go to the UN General Assembly and ask for a vote on sanctions. That doesn't happen.
These are unilateral acts of financial terrorism. So now the CIA is coming back to Venezuela. They've announced that.
One of the things I think they're going to do is they're going to get their tentacles into Pereesa and look for ways
of building up allegations of dirt and crime to continue to to twist the arms
the Venezuelan leadership. There's all these rumors being spread that Alex Saab, who also helped circumvent
sanctions and helped create the clap program that kept Venezuelans fed under sanctions with often free food, free
meals. Uh there's rumors that he's been arrested. I've been told
by multiple sources that those rumors are false, but uh you know, who knows what could be
planned. And then the Maria Karina Machado
opposition, the radical opposition, which has uh been iced out by Trump for
now, is trying to organize protests and called for the student sector to come out and protest. So, they're trying to
create destabilization inside Venezuela uh to make it harder for this government
to even govern with the US twisting its arm, which is
interesting because uh the Maria Karina Machado opposition, the radical,
formerly State Department backed opposition is actually threatening its own relationship with Trump and Rubio
here. And why do I think there could be a secret indictment?
Well, here's one clue, but I'll introduce more later.
I don't like to telegraph punches, but you know, here we I'm here.
This is a quote from David Smild who they just say is a Tain University professor who studied Venezuela. But no,
this guy's like been consulting on regime change for a long time in addition to I think attacking the gray
zone because we got in their way. Just being a leader in a highly corrupted regime for over a decade. Remember it's
highly corrupted because they they don't play ball with they actually circumvent sanctions and that distorts your state.
makes it logical that she Deli Rodriguez is a priority target for investigation,
said David Smile, a Tulain University professor who has studied Venezuela for three decades. She surely knows this and
it gives the US government leverage over her. She may fear that if she does not do as the Trump administration demands,
she could end up with an indictment like Maduro. So,
pretty clear clue there. the DOJ, the Treasury Department, and the Pentagon
are teaming up to terrorize Venezuela, but they have not yet achieved regime
change. And so, it's something to keep an eye on, and we'll be reporting more here at the Greyzone. Um,
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