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REVEALED: How Epstein Linked America, Israel, And India
The Young Turks and Rebel HQ
Feb 6, 2026

According to a new report, Jeffrey Epstein connected an Indian billionaire named Anil Ambani with former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak. Cenk Uygur and John Iadarola discuss on The Young Turks.



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all of those conspiracy theories, which
by the way, I would have dismissed a
year ago, two years ago for sure, about
how world leaders are sick people who
are doing these, you know, with these
underage girls and doing crazy stuff. I
mean, some of the things in the files
are unreal.
Unreal. According to drop site news,
Jeffrey Epstein helped connect Indian
leadership to world officials during
Donald Trump's first term as president.
And there is a lot here, but Jenk first
pass. What do you make of this?
Uh there are again two facts in this
story uh that will prove to you how
incredibly powerful Jeffrey Epstein was,
which then will prove to you that
obviously the US government knew all the
things that he was doing, let alone the
Israelis. Of course. Let's give you the
facts.
Well, here's what you need to know. The
key figure in this story is Indian
billionaire Anneil Amani. He's an ally
of Narinda Modi, the prime minister of
India. Amani and Epstein were in close
communication. Epstein and Amani talked
about setting up meetings with former
Israeli Prime Minister Ahoud Barack, the
head of NATO, Tom Pritsker, the bill the
billionaire chairman of Hyatt Hotels,
and Tom Barack, the chair of Trump's
first inaugural committee. We don't know
how many of those meetings actually
materialized. But what's clear is that
Amani wanted to be in contact with world
officials and Epstein was willing to
help connect him. However, Epstein did
refuse Amani's on at least one occasion.
In March 2017, Amani wrote the following
to Epstein. Hello, was in Delhi.
Leadership would like your help for me
to meet Jared and Bannon ASAP. Please
advise likely visit to DC by PM in May
to meet Donald. Also, assistance on
that. Amani is referring to Jared
Kushner, Steve Bannon, and Donald Trump.
But Epstein told Amani that he should
meet with Barack instead. Steven Jared
are meeting 15 people a day, mostly meet
and greet with little follow-up. State
Department is way understaffed. NBS's
meeting took time to setly a waste of
time. Though photo op was what they
wanted. It's early for anything
meaningful. You should meet with Tom
Barack. Just a few months later, in June
of 2017, Modi would meet with Trump.
Shortly after Modi visited Israel,
making him the first Indian prime
minister to do so. India had a chilly
relationship with Israel prior to that
year. In July of 2017, Epstein wrote the
following message to a recipient by the
name of Yabore Y. The Indian Prime
Minister Modi took advice and danced and
sang in Israel for the benefit of the US
president. They had met a few weeks ago.
It worked. The same day, Epstein sent
the following message to Amani. Your
guy's performance was was both clever
and executed well. Good work. So, what
did Amani hope to gain from his
relationship with Epstein? Based on the
reporting, we can't say for sure, but
here's what we do know. The Indian
billionaire had substantial business
interests in Israel. The previous year,
his company, Reliance Defense Limited,
had entered a joint venture with Raphael
Advanced Defense Systems Limited, a
state-owned Israeli defense firm, to
produce air-to-air missiles and air
defense systems in a deal valued at 10
billion over a decade. 2017, India was
reported to be the largest buyer of
Israeli weapons, having bought 715
million worth of weaponry, according to
the Stockholm International Peace
Research Institute. As for Epstein's
feelings about India and Israel, 2 days
after Mod's visit to Israel, after Mod's
visit to Israel concluded, rather, Larry
Summers asked Epstein if he still
thought Trump is a better president than
Hillary Clinton would have been. Epstein
responded affirmatively stating yes
definitely India is real for example
great and all his doing.
Yeah so lots of super interesting
information in here. So uh first of all
yet another deal that Absene arranges
for Israel. Um but again all of national
media can't see it. They can't see a
single connection. They apparently can't
read. Uh but it's going to get much
worse. Um, so earlier in the show we
reported about how he arranged a deal
with JP Morgan Chase and Netanyahu uh
for the Leviathan oil field and and now
they've announced a $ 35 billion deal
many years later with Egypt about that
field. Who arranged that deal? Jeffrey
Epstein. Uh who arranged this deal to
get India and Israel and the US more
aligned? Jeffrey Epstein. Okay. So to me
a disturbing part of that was the way
that he seemed to revel in making the
Indian prime minister dance for them
and I I don't know that to me for
whatever reason that was stomach
turnurning. Oh yeah he danced and sung
for us basically. Okay India uh is that
what you want? You want to dance and
sing for Israel and okay that's your
leader apparently then. Um so he did it.
He did he did whatever Absene asked him
to do. Okay pause there.
My god, how powerful is Epstein? We were
told, "Oh, random pedophile down in
Florida, pedophilia is bad." Yeah. Oh,
he I guess he's rich. Oh, I guess he has
a couple of rich friends.
No, he's arranging deals with world
leaders nonstop.
And every single time it is for the
benefit of Israel.
This is the national media in this
country is a joke. Okay, so now we go to
um he's all these other folks that he
arranged. Tom Pritsker, that's normal
arguably, right? I'm not saying anything
he did is normal, but like okay, Epste
is a businessman. Tom Pritsk Pritsker is
a businessman. Businessmen know each
other. Not a big deal. Okay. Uh Epstein
arranges a meeting with for his contacts
in India with the head of NATO. Wait,
what? How does Epstein know the head of
NATO and can arrange for some a
businessman to meet with the head of
NATO anytime he wants?
And our entire national media doesn't
think that's interesting.
Doesn't think that that shows that maybe
Epstein had political power,
governmental power to be able to arrange
meetings like that. And these are all in
the files that our government has known
about this entire time. So our
government knew that a one of the most
powerful men on earth who could arrange
almost any meeting with any foreign
leader or the richest men in the world
was running a pedophile ring where other
super powerful and rich people were
participating
and not only never told us about it but
covered it up on his behalf. And our
media doesn't think that's interesting.
They report about the sex. They report
about the celebrities and the and now
some of the rich people, but they never
report about the government. They never
report about how our government
obviously knew how incredibly powerful
this guy was and obviously also
potentially made him that powerful. So
look, it's every deal is done on behalf
of Israel, but every deal is known by
the United States government. So then
that makes me wonder, wait, why is the
US government working on behalf of
Israel? That's the most important and
interesting question. Now, if you say,
"Hey, wait, Jen, Jen, I don't know. Do
you Okay, fine. Head of NATO. Fine.
You've shown me dozens of other cases
where he arranges meetings with uh
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All right, we'll be right back. Now, how
about this one? They're talking about
Petraeus and now Petraeus is the former
uh you know general that was in charge
of Iraq, Afghanistan at different times.
Uh he was our top general and then he
became the head of the CIA. So uh the
Indian businessman asks him about
Petraeus potentially being the
ambassador to India and they said look
we need a strong ambassador because we
got to deal with Pakistan and stuff and
FC's like oh yeah Pakistan sucks right
Muslims. Oh, terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, Israel loves this. More people
attacking Muslims. Okay, so that's
normal so far or what counts as normal
in this insane world. But get a load of
what uh Epstein then writes uh to uh
Ambi, he says when asked about Petraeus,
Tillerson is normally in charge of
search. At the time, Rex Tillerson was a
secretary of state and he'd be in charge
of who would be appointed ambassador to
India. But Epstein continues, "Donald
like Petraeus, but again, Pentagon wary
his use of tradecraft email sticks in
their craw.
How does Jeffrey Epstein
know what the Pentagon thinks about the
former head of the CIA?
And you're telling me he wasn't involved
in our government and our government
didn't cover up for him?" Now look,
you're not telling me that cuz you're a
regular person and you're not like
you're I I don't I've run out of
adjectives to describe the people in
power, right? But any normal person
understands obviously he's helping the
Israelis and the US government knows and
is aiding and abetting him get access to
all of these things, including what our
Pentagon thinks in order to help the
Israelis. But not a single national
media reporter has pieced this together.
Only independent outlets like Drop Site
News. ABC, CNN, New York Times,
Washington Post are like, "Yeah, that's
totally normal." Yeah. Yeah. I ran into
a We did that story on this random
pedophile in Nevada, right? Bob or
whatever his name was. And Bob was
always arranging meetings with the head
of NATO and knew exactly what the
Pentagon was thinking and was doing,
procuring cyber weapons for Israel,
right?
Is that what you think? If you're a
reporter out there and you cover
politics and you haven't covered these
stories like this, you're pathetic.
Please retire and go into plumbing where
you could actually earn an honest
living. Jordan, what do you think?
Yeah, I think the the the status of some
of these people that Epstein was trying
to facilitate meetings with, if anybody
is familiar with how those types of
figures operate, there's a tremendous
amount of vetting and background checks
that go into many meetings.
This, just remember, his first arrest
was in 2008.
They knew about this. The investigation
started in 2005. We're talking about
emails, correspondents, and potential
meetings in 2017.
So, of course, we see much more detail
from reporting from drop site, from
commentary on here, from reporting
elsewhere that validates this theory.
But even at a core level,
they knew what was happening. They knew
what he did and who he was, and they
were okay with it. You could argue
that's simply because of his wealth or
purported wealth. I I don't think that's
it anymore. At first, I you and I talked
about it, Jack, when this first started
to emerge, I was very reluctant to
accept any national security or
intelligence ties to Epstein. And the
more we learn, the more undeniable it
seems. the emails that he wrote, that
people wrote to him, the interests and
the figures that people wanted to either
meet.
It's hard to ignore all of these details
adding up and the fact that we're
talking about the head of NATO, one of
the wealthiest hotel uh CEOs, founders,
chairs,
former prime ministers.
You don't get access to these people if
you just happen to be wealthy. there are
many wealthy people who still would have
a barrier to to access them. There was
something unique about Epstein and his
role in that upper echelon of society
that I don't think is simply because he
had a party island.
Yeah. Uh it's super obvious. I we don't
need to debate it anymore. Uh only the
liars are covering up the story. Uh, and
so
now what's amazing about the FC story is
now we know how the world works. This is
how they set up meetings. This is the
kind of guy who runs it. And by the way,
in the midst of that Petraeus talk, uh,
Epste jokes around about, oh, your next
ambassad ambassador should be a tall
blonde Swedish woman. And then, uh, the
Indian billionaire responds with, "Oh,
can you arrange that?" And in all of
these emails, there's always these uh
subtle and oftentimes not at all subtle
references to, "Oh yeah, bring the
girls."
So all of those conspiracy theories,
which by the way, I would have dismissed
a year ago, two years ago, for sure
about how world leaders are sick people
who are doing these, you know, with
these underage girls and doing crazy
stuff. I mean, some of the things in the
files are unreal.
Unreal. I mean, we reported on one the
other day where one of the confirmed
survivor talks about after she was raped
at 16 by one of the richest men in the
world, she delivers a baby and then they
take the baby from her and she never
sees the baby again.
I You couldn't have gotten me to believe
that. If two years ago you told me
Abstein is secretly working for the
Israelis and he arranges all these
things and he knows all these world
leaders and he can arrange any meeting,
I would have said, "Hey, brother, come
on, man. You're going to need
overwhelming evidence for that. It
sounds like a conspiracy theory." Well,
guess what? We got overwhelming
evidence. So, apparently that's how the
world works.
Every time you ring the bell below, an
angel gets his wings. Totally not true,
but it does keep you updated on our live
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Part 1 of 2

All roads lead to Tel Aviv;) - The Grayzone live
The Grayzone
Streamed live on Feb 6, 2026

Max Blumenthal is joined by Kit Klarenberg to break down the massive new Epstein file dump, and to discuss the scandal surrounding UK Labour peer Peter Mandelson which threatens to bring down Keir Starmer's government. They will also cover US-Iran negotiations, new developments in Venezuela, and more.



Transcript

Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to the gray zone. It's Max Blumenthal.
Gonna be joined soon by our friend and UK correspondent
covering the transatlantic axis of evil Kit
Clarenberg. Quick announcement. We have just had our account restored by
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podcasters, several other podcasters. is PayPal has seized money from other outlets like Consortium News and Mint
Press. In the past, they have banned our colleague Wyatt Reed after he traveled
to the Donbass and was nearly killed in a Ukrainian howitzer strike on
his hotel. and we've been restored. And it's thanks
to number one, the investigation I was able to carry out with our friend who is
an Australian citizen from Iran who donated $40 to us that was flagged in
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contributing uh you know your your insights and own
experience after being flagged as some kind of dangerous bad actor by PayPal.
And number two, thanks to all of you out there, our supporters who raised hell
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They know what we're about. Uh they're called Give Butter. And you know, when you support us at the support tab at the
top of the gray zone, that's the company that will be transferring your donations
to us, which helps sustain our work and sustain the work of Kit Clarenberg, who's going to be joining me to discuss
the latest Epstein files drop, which is three million new files, emails,
recordings, phone calls. It's honestly overwhelming. This was one of the harder episodes to
prepare. I don't really necessarily know where it's going to go, although I have
a some vague parameters. And Kit is going to join us first to
discuss the earthshattering revelations in these Epstein files about
labor lord Peter Mandelen who was in many ways the architect of
new labor, the neoliberal project to take over labor and drive it to the
right, destroy Jeremy Corbin. And now it appears that Kier Starmer's government
is on the verge of collapse over these new revelations. I haven't been following the UK as closely as I should,
but UK media is completely focused on this, 100% focused on this from what I've seen at the expense of everything
else that's happening, being on the precipice of war with Iran, uh, renewed Israeli bombing in Gaza.
So Kit is going to help us unpack this from I think a uniquely critical angle.
And so welcome Kit Clarenberg to the Greyzone stage. Great to see you. Kit is
speaking to us from an unknown undisclosed location somewhere in NATO
territory. Indeed. Um thanks for having me on, Max.
Yeah, thanks for joining us. Um, let's see.
Peter Mandelson, you're gonna have to tell everyone who he is, but
a bulletin was just sent to the British press uh to Ipso
on behalf of Peter Mandlesson. I guess this is like a a secret notice that has
been published. Um, and his representatives of Peter
Mandlesson say state that he does not wish to speak to the media. He requests that the press do not take photos or
film approach or contact via email, phone, or in person. No requests for comment. He's not going to comment.
Tell us just summarize this scandal for us and then tell us why it Peter Mandlesson is
such a significant figure and someone who has been
has not exactly been reluctant to comment in the past has been subject has been the subject of many previous
scandals but this one might be the final blow. So what's happening and who is he?
Yeah sure. So, I mean, first things first, I think this is quite sensational as far as scandals go. Um, and I've
actually been I've actually been somewhat pleasantly surprised by the uh focus that the British media is uh
paying to this. Of course, there's a lot of rubbish about how Epstein was a Russian um asset. Um which is, you know,
completely completely ludicrous. But but the point is is that that yeah, that the the media has been quite viciously going
for Andrew Mountbatton Windsor, the former royal, and uh Peter Mandlesson. I
strongly suspect that they're sacrificial lambs that both of them are have already been kind of thrown under
the bus anyway. But I mean, Mandlesson's particularly interesting. So for for for view for viewers and listeners who are
lucky enough to not be familiar with this um god awful person, um he's a kind of like this unflushable turd in in
British politics, he has been hovering around at the highest levels of the Labour Party and engaged in leftwing
from the mid 1980s onwards, kind of on and off. Um he was Tony Blair's close
confidant and aid. He was a minister in Tony Blair's government. He had to resign twice due to corruption
allegations. Um he returned um under Gordon Brown after he entered the House of Lords as a life peer. Um and uh this
is it was this period from 2008 until Labour lost the 2010 general election
that has caused the most controversy in terms of his relationship with Epstein because number one of course Epstein was
convicted in 2008 of child sex trafficking. Um and uh Mandlesson always
claimed when their bond was exposed in 2019, he claimed that I had no contact with Epstein after his his arrest, which
was a barefaced lie. Um, now the the the contact that he had with Epstein on top of like very kind of perverted uh to and
to uh back and forths with with Epstein including making um you know lewd comments about uh Andrew's young uh
daughter Eugenie u which is just you know deeply creepy. Um the the at the core of at the core of the scandal is
the fact that Mandlesson was handing sensitive information including um uh completely secret private classified
government communications um on to Jeffrey Epstein. Um and this included uh
advanced warning that the uh British government was going to nationalize the banks following the financial crisis,
which is something that Epstein could have profited from or know people who could have profited from. Um he handed on information about the fact that a
bailout was about to be handed to Greece. um long before it was announced. He boasted about how he got Gordon Brown
to quit personally. He kind of forced him to to stand down after the 2010 general election. Um and uh yeah, this
is completely legal. Um it's a breach of the Official Secrets Act of the Ministerial Code um of you know conduct
in public office. You're not meant to do this. It doesn't typically happen. um particularly sending this information to
you know like a private citizen like Epstein you know leaving aside any consideration of his um criminal
criminal um past and indeed you know present I mean he Epstein would continued unabashed um after his arrest
and prosecution and jail uh jail time which wasn't really jail time at all was no deterrent now yeah so he Mandl is is
in very serious trouble but as you mentioned by extension so is Kier Starmmer because Starmmer um appointed
um uh Mandlesson to the the the position of US am sorry British ambassador to the
US in February 2025. Now towards the end of 2025 there was a
series of revelations which implicated um which demonstrated that Mandlesson had been lying about his his
relationship with Epstein and then now um there's been this flood of you know like three million emails which in which
Mandlesson features quite prominently. Um I it's clear that man uh sorry that Epstein uh loaned or gifted vast sums of
money to EP uh to to Mandlesson and Mandlesson's partner. Yeah, as I say, Mandlesson was passing very sensitive
private information um on to on on onto uh Epstein in secret. Um the the it is
kind of inconceivable that the sec British security and intelligence services didn't know when Mandlesson was
was nominated for this post. uh it caused a lot of controversy as it was and that's just based on you know
publicly available information about his bond with Epstein. Um so I mean this is pretty bad and it reflects absolutely
terribly on K star because there have been numerous attempts to rebrand Stalmer and one of you know one one of
the kind of core propaganda messages about Stalmer is that he's very sensible and wise and also a nice guy. Um and I
think he's pretty amply demonstrated that he is complete and utter scumbag. But complicating matters further, and
this is something that hasn't got very much um media interest, is the fact that um uh Morgan Mcweeny, who was kind of
this um uh Rasputin type figure for K Star and was involved in all of these operations to neutralize the left in
Labor, like whether that's permanently banning people from being members um uh
on you bogus grounds of anti-semitism or you he set up a Morgan Mini Swed set up a website called Stop Funding Fake News
to specifically to take down the Canary, which which was this kind of proc Corbin left-wing website and was getting an
enormous amount of traction. Stop funding fake news basically crippled their business model and they had to massively downsize. Um so that was a
kind of key form of support of Jeremy Corbyn that was just um you know shattered um as a result of Mweeny's
kind of covert conniving. Um but Morgan Msweeny is himself a kind of key acolyte
of Mandlesson was kind of taught in the in the dark dirty arts of politics by um
uh by Mandlesson who during the 90s was widely known as the prince of darkness. Um make your own conclusions about why
that is. Um and yeah that Morgan Mweeny remains a very powerful and influential figure in um uh in British politics. And
interestingly, uh, Starmmer's initial response to these revelations about
Mandlesson was to say, "Oh, well, I'm considering firing, um, Morgan Mcweeny," um, because, uh, of the the close bond
between McWeeny and Mandlesson. Um, I might add as well that a large proportion of the Labour cabinet are
themselves Mandlesson acolytes. And there's the the very creepy rubberfaced health secretary um Wes Streeting who
was pictured kind of grinning um on the campaign trail in last year in sorry in the 2024 general election in the UK. Um
and so a large number of of senior Labour figures are having to do you know huge vault fes and say oh well I you
know damn him I trusted him and he lied to me. Well, I mean, you know, the average person on the street could have
told them that he was, you know, up to his neck in that scene. And some of the some of the photos that have emerged of of Mandlesson in the files, which are
obviously heavily redacted, they show him getting foot massages. Um, they depict him walking around with a shirt
on and and and just underpants, which is, you know, extremely creepy. Certainly not a kind of costume choice
that any normal person would go for, let alone allow themselves to be photographed um in this manner. So I I
mean and there's also there's there's there's tons of weirdness in the on top of the the sexually perverted stuff
where where Manson's clearly has this kind of longing for uh Epstein's company
and was you know emailing him saying you don't think about me anymore. I miss you and you know blah blah. It's just it's
really it's really weird. Epstein seems to find him kind of annoying and oh yeah well not quite as annoying as
Elon Musk who got um you know tried to invite himself to the wildest parties on Epstein's island and then Epstein had to
get Jane Maxwell to get him to go away to the extent that Maxwell was like we're thinking of selling the island. Um
but yeah it's it's I mean I think that Epstein probably didn't have very much patience for people. He was, you know,
inundated on a daily basis, it seems, by, you know, emails from, you know, the great and the good. Um, uh, or, you
know, or are they, um, you know, people who are powerful within politics, finance, the military, intelligence.
Now, I think there's a chance that that Elon Musk email was not authentic. So, I just want
to be very clear here. Um, and you know, the the the Mandel emails are are are
pathetic. Uh [laughter] I think at one stage Pepsi praying for
something like very very creepy. We are praying for a hung parliament alternatively a well-hung young man.
Yeah. Yeah. What's your take on that one? Well I mean this refers to how like this was right when the general election was
happening in 2010 and it was widely predicted that Labour was going to lose. Um so I don't know maybe it was a bit of
gallows humor because Man knew he was on the way out but I mean yeah their their bond is like super creepy. Mandlesson
comes across as just this sleazy just oily uh sinister presence kind of
hovering like around like the ghost of the feast. I mean but there's a wider point to be made here which is quite serious which is that that there's a a
kind of through line in all of Epstein's released well not all but a lot of Epstein's released emails is he and his
associates seek to profit from misery um and destruction overseas. So there's an
email from a Rothschild right around in March 2014 right around the time of the maidan coup where this Rothschild says
you know there's a lot of opportunities here um in 2011 just before Gaddafi was
you know sodomized to death on TV um by western back rebels um an associate
messaged him to say I'm working with MI6 and Mosad veterans to asset strip Libya.
Here's that here's that email you mentioned. It's from uh Arian de Rothschild to Jeffrey Epstein.
And Epstein responds, this is after the Maidon coup. Ukraine upheaval should provide many opportunities. Many uh
well, but the Biden family certainly got the message there. [laughter]
Under Biden was like running a parallel kind of Epstein network through Ukraine.
Epstein's basically that's what I think the real value of these emails is is it shows you how business gets done at in
in for example a mineralrich gasrich poor impoverished country that
had just come under de facto NATO and EU control in Ukraine. That's how it gets
done [music] through these power networks. Yeah. I mean sorry go ahead. Yeah. Well,
no, I mean, yeah, it's quite clear that was the kind of a core interest of Epstein was, you know, well, what what
events are occurring um across the world? How can I profit from them? How can my friends profit for for them? And
I might add as well that the there are some exchanges with Peter Theel where Mandals where sorry where where Epstein
is discussing how um chaos is a dedicated strategy of the US um and that
creates opportunities for us because you know if if half the world's on fire one way or another you know we can you know
in the spirit of disaster capitalism you make a mint off it whether you know directly or not. Um but yeah, I mean
Manderson is clearly, you know, an informant. Um who uh uh Epstein passed
this information on is uh on to is isn't necessarily clear. Um that it's you know
been we've we've reported at the grrey zone that I mean he he did have you know contacts with um a number of foreign
intelligence services including including MOSAD and he would routinely you know pass information to them. Um,
so I mean that this is highly substantive and I might add that there is now an official investigation into
Mandlesson's wrongdoing. Initially Kier Starmer tried to um fudge it. So the uh
parliament's intelligence and security committee would be uh would restrict what documents are released um and that
got you know voted down amid some controversy. So it looks like there will be you know a significant disclosure.
probably won't be, you know, in in complete um and it's it's likely that,
you know, there will be some degree of whitewash, but I mean it is it's pretty bad and you know, no one is coming to
the rescue, I think, hence his rather pitiful pleading letter saying, "Oh, leave me alone." Um you know, I mean, he
he was he was trying to invoke um uh powers under the press code, which are usually extended to, you know, the
grieving families of murder victims. Um, of course, Manslson is, you know, is no victim um at all. Um, he's a
perpetrator. But, but yeah, I mean, this this this this this could result in the end of of Karma. I mean, he's already
the least popular prime minister in British history. Um, he gave a Star gave this like very bizarre speech where he
looked like he was on the verge of tears where he he claimed, oh, he did he to he took the standard line of, "Well, man
lied to me and it was an error of judgment on my part. I wish I'd never met him, blah, blah, blah." Um, it's not going to wash. Um I think yeah
particularly now I mean it's interesting he knew he knew I guess what you know
everyone knew about Trump which is that but he knew that Mandolen was
deeply involved with Jeffrey Epstein all along and none of this was surprising
and for all we know he knew that Epstein provided that that Epstein was provided by
Mandles with advanced info of the collapse of the Gordon Brown government. I mean, this is I I I it wouldn't be
surprising. Uh let's watch this exchange in question hour. Uh this is uh the Tory
leader Kem Badnock who's taking down Kier Star Dmer and he's sort of like
shaking. He's stammering. He's he's Kier Stammerer. Knew this. I asked him at that dispatch
box. He gave Mandles his full confidence at that dispatch box. Not once but twice. He only sacked him after pressure
from us. I am asking the prime minister something very specific not about the generalities of the full extent. Can the
prime minister tell us did the official security vetting he received mentioned Mandlesson's ongoing relationship with
the pedophile Jeffrey Epste? So clear prime minister. Yes it did. Oh
result various questions were put to him. I intend to disclose to this house all of the the national security produce
to international relations on one side. I want to make sure that I want to make sure this house sees the full
documentation so it will see for itself the extent to which the extent to which time and time again Manderson completely
misrepresented the extent of his relationship with Pepsi and lied throughout the process including in
response to the due diligence. Mr. Mr. Speaker, I think it is shocking
what the prime minister has just said. How can he stand up there saying that he knew what he just asked Peter Mandlesson
if the security vetting was true or false? This is a man who had been sacked from cabinet twice already for unethical
behavior. That is absolutely shocking. And that is why later today, my party will call on the government to release
all documents relating to Mandlesson's appointment, not just the ones the prime minister wants us to see. Because this
government is trying to sabotage that release with an amendment to let him choose what we see, the man who appointed Mandlesson in the first place.
Labour MPs now have to decide if they want to be accessories to his cover up.
Can the Prime Minister guarantee that he won't remove the whip if they refuse to vote for his whitewash amendment?
Prime Minister, Mr. Speaker, the first exemption is in relation to anything that could compromise national
security. [laughter] that that is that is not a that is not a small matter and
many members on the benches on so he's citing national security as grounds not to release the full truth
about Mandel's relationship with Epstein is that right yeah and I might add that I think that
he expanded on that where he said that um SAM said that this would full disclosure might threaten our relations
with our closest ally which was code for the US and a third country which is code for Israel presumably um I mean the the
the me whether this is [clears throat] a sign up I don't know but the the the
media is now taking the line that well um the Trump administration might be offended um if uh if there's full
disclosure and that's you know another reason to you know you know not not release the files. I mean it does seem
it very much seems that the ISC is pushing f full steam ahead with this. And I might add as well the ISC is it's
meant to vet the work of MI5, MI6 and GCHQ. Um it's members have a extensive
history of complaining that the the agencies don't tell them anything and they have no idea what's going on. Um, in last summer, the head of the ISC, um,
um, made a series of extremely angry statements to the effect that they their funding has been completely slashed to
the point they can't really conduct their work, and there's billions being spent on spying operations at home and
abroad that the ISC doesn't know anything about. Um, Starmmer had promised to give them a cash injection, but then didn't. So, I mean, I strongly
think that they're um, you know, out for revenge to an extent. Um, and you know, this could this could be very very
damning. But like I say, um, I think this is is still to an extent a limited hangout. Um, although it's, you know,
somewhat an improvement on a DOJ spokesperson saying that nobody's going to be prosecuted as a result of the files. Um, despite acknowledging that
they contain images of death and rape. Um, you know, and they've had this this information for god knows how long and
they've not done anything with it. uh despite the fact that you know there are many you know prominent people who are
who are openly named in them um some some of their names are redacted some of them aren't I might add that there's a
very there's a very interesting um one of the most interesting emails that I've seen is from John Luke Brunell who was
this this French model scout um yeah who uh he he he died in um in a French
prison in December 2020 he was he was being held there on charge of you know rape of children there's an email that
he sent to um Epstein been following the maiden coup. I think he talks about how Ukraine's my favorite country now and
you know it's just like the 1980s in Europe and what he was referring to is the fact that in the 1980s several
European governments including the French and the German governments um had formal state sanctioned you know uh
pedophilia policies where they put young um at risk boys primarily. There were
some women women young girls who were placed with pedophiles as a matter of policy very deliberately in the belief
that this would somehow you improve their life um uh you know I mean it's absolutely horrendous but like it what
Brunell meant by this was well you in Ukraine now I can do whatever I like and I'm not going to face any repercussions
for it. His death is likewise extremely suspicious. Um it was widely suspected that he was going to you know flip um on
Epstein because they were you know very close friends for many years um and he died before that could happen. I might
add as well um I one of I think that because the the material is so explosive and some of it might be you know false
uh that that must be that must be noted. Um what's been rather forgotten is like is is here's that email by here's that email
by the way. Sorry to interrupt. So you were saying what's been forgotten. Yeah. No, sorry. What's been kind of
forgotten is the fact that like you know the circumstances of Epstein suicide or was it um they remain you deeply weird
um and we've had some revelations that there was you know someone who was on his floor who wasn't meant to be like around the time but like
who had strangled other people to death in the past and was like a former New York cop. Is that who you're referring
to? Oh yeah. Yeah. That's Yeah, that was um uh Tagion, I think. I mean he was yeah
he was he he like strangled people with zip ties and was like a cocaine dealer on the side as well as being a cop um
and was this you kind of this hulking you know sumo wrestler type character but the but yeah that I mean we reported
the gray zone started 2024 on the basis of a vast amount of bureau of prison
documents that everything about his his alleged suicide is extremely weird. There was no they couldn't find any
evidence that he'd actually tried to kill himself the first time contrary to what they claimed publicly and Epstein
claimed that he didn't remember what had happened and asked to be left alone and didn't want it logged uh and was quite
aggressive in pushing back against that. Um there was a kind of a a whitewash
cover up report where they concluded that Epstein the Bureau of Prisons concluded that Epstein had killed
himself and they spun a comment that he made in a psychological evaluation where he refers to himself as a coward as
proof that he'd committed suicide when he made that comment in the explicit context of denying he had suicidal
intent and saying that well I'm a coward I can't stand pain so how can I kill myself? Um, and that's been rather
forgotten, but I mean it's just it was I I remember following this very closely at the time, which is now nearly six
years ago now. Nearly seven years ago now, but the um yeah, it was it was quite extraordinary. I mean, you know,
he he died. There's no CCTV. The guards weren't where they were meant to be. They got prosecuted. That got dropped um
after im almost immediately after Gilain Maxwell was was prosecuted. A lot of his
associates said that he wasn't suicidal and they didn't believe he taken his own life. there was an independent autopsy
report which concluded that he hadn't um uh hung himself that he that he'd been strangled. Um, so I mean, you know, that
that is a whole can of words which is not really being looked at, but I think, you know, given how much he knew, given
how much he knew and the fact that he'd clearly been exposed. Um, you know, that
I I it seems pretty inelectable that a decision was made by someone somewhere to take him out before he spilled
anything, you know, really really uh damaging um about, you know, the ruling elites of Israel, the US, Britain, and
other countries. Um, but yeah, I mean the whole and sorry, sorry to interrupt because we're we're going a lot of a lot of
places here. There's this [snorts] and and and I don't totally know what to
make of this, but there's this 4chan post by an officer. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Oh, yeah. On the day when when he was found claiming that that he'd been killed. Um,
and uh saying that he he was being taken out.
Yeah. I mean, if you know, I don't know how far you want to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole, but now his name
has been revealed to be Roberto Grihalva. Uh, yeah.
I mean, some someone posted on the poster was anonymous. This was an officer who was on the
scene. Yeah. Claiming that they were an offer on officer on the scene and they announced it before he was, you know,
for formally found and declared dead. Next thing you know, he's put in a single van man cell and hangs himself.
Here's the thing that Trip Van did not sign in. Blah blah blah. You guys, I'm shaking right now, but I
think they switched him out. And then, you know, there's FBI files which essentially docks him as special officer
Grihalva. I don't know if anyone's tried to reach him. Uh, you know, is Jeffrey
Epstein in hell or Tel Aviv? [laughter] Which one? Which one is it?
Yeah. Well, I mean, it's you act as if the two are mutually exclusive, but market. Poly market now has bets on
whether you and we're not sponsored by Poly Market. Poly Market's evil should be destroyed. They should all be prosecuted. Uh but uh they have now bets
on whether Epstein is actually alive. I mean, oh god. I mean, late latest late stage capitalism can't beat it. But yeah, I
mean the whole the whole the whole thing like stinks to high heaven in the fact that I mean that he was meant to have a cellmate according to regulations and
didn't and then his the individual who was his cellmate he was he subsequently
testified because he got released due to COVID. He said that he didn't believe that Epstein had killed himself because Epstein's quite tall and like you know
the bunk's not massive. So how would you hang yourself from the bunk? you would have to kind of like huddle down
like kind of like get down and then like sort of get on your like hold up your knees if you're Epstein's height in
order to hang yourself. So, it was it's difficult to imagine. I mean, the
circumstances of the someone accused of pedophilia or
sexually abusing minors, yeah, that there's a high risk of suicide there. But you demonstrated through your
analysis of the Bureau of Prisons documents that Epstein was consistently demonstrating that he feared physical
harm in prison and that he was averse to suicide and that his mental state was
consistently listed as sort of um you know temperate like like he was he was
just had had a had a stable mental state according to prison psychiatrists. So
there are a lot of questions there. I want to go back to something else you mentioned referring to Jean Luke Brunell
and the sort of the profering of women to Epstein's network because you
mentioned uh the other day that so many of these very young women came from the
Balkans. Yeah. Well, I mean I think that there's a lot of reference to the to the Balkans
and it's clear that he he had a preponderant interest in people from Eastern Europe. Now, I might that there's a there's a particularly creepy
reference where they're talking about how uh producing a children's book for Kosovo, which is this kind of state that
got wrenched out of um of Serbia following the NATO bombing in 1999. Um and he talks about how well there's a
million children there, which is like this tremendous resource. um and uh yeah like wanted to target them with um with
with with a children's book presumably with you know coded messages um you know of a suggestive nature um which is you
know deeply creepy but yeah it's again it's fits into this this disaster
capitalism um uh throughine in a lot of his communications is you know co Kosovo
was shattered um by NATO bombing and then um you know a prostitution industry basically exploded overnight locally
There was a lot it became a European center of child and people trafficking and there was a there's an amnesty
report from the early 2000s which finds that the primary source of cleonel for um sex workers in Kosovo was um NATO and
UN troops who were stationed there. Um and that you all of these brothel popped up like right next to their bases you
kind of makeshift shacks where um you know German and British and French and US soldiers could get their rocks off um
if they were bored. But I mean, you know, this again the same exactly the same thing happened in Ukraine post 1991
and it just got worse and worse and worse to the extent that even I think the Kiev Post which is you know very
progovern um outlet admitted in 2009 that Ukraine was this this hub for
pedophiles and and you know mail order brides and stuff. I mean this was the plan for Russia um after 1991 as well.
um that didn't quite work out um due to the election of a well the the seizure of power by a certain president in 2000.
Um but yeah, I mean it's quite clear that um he viewed um uh epste viewed uh
the you know the former kind of communist sphere in central and eastern Europe as this endless reservoir of kind
of human wealth that could be you know sold um you know tra traded uh loaned
out to people. Um it is of course I mean it seems that uh Bill Gates um got
involved in um uh very much with um you having affairs with women from Eastern
Europe that Epstein uh arranged for him. And then of course um Bill Gates demanded that Eple demanded that Epstein
get him uh you know medicine that he could surreally give to his wife because he gave her an STD he contracted from
one of the girls that Epstein hooked him up with. um which prompted Epstein to write write a note to himself saying
that he was disgusted with what Bill Gates was making him do. I mean maybe Bill Gates has denied this just just
you know so we don't get sued by his super governmental
structure. Bill Gates has this but you know Epstein wrote a note to himself about Bill Gates being getting STDs from
in his words Russian girls. Uh, this was the same year that Gates and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation introduced
its $100,000 condom challenge. [laughter] They were kind of like maybe like
crowdsourcing a solution. And Melinda Gates has denounced Bill Bill Gates for
kind of being a depraved individual. This is the real Russia Gates, I guess.
Well, I mean subsequent submission, but like I mean sub I mean subsequent to this, this is when Bill Gates gets
really interested in pandemic modeling and he's talking to Epstein about that. Um I mean there's all sort there's
there's other weirdness where um uh Epstein was like was pressuring a um an
academic and a biologist to um uh like really really dig into you know LGBT uh
research particularly with a focus on on trans and stuff. I mean, yeah, he he he
epste had his his his fingers in a in a lot of pies, it seems. I mean, there's there's one there's another email which
where a redacted name is asking him and Steven um Sikovsky who's like who was
the president of I think he was the president of Windows at the time um saying like I've got this idea to create a Somaliwood which would be like
Hollywood in Somalia and we're going to create like programming for local children and stuff which is I mean it's
just so unbelievably creepy. Yeah. Um and this is you know this is a conversation with someone who jokes
about what the French plur of pedophiles is. Um you know and does so quite readily
and you know and I mean in his conversations with man Manderson they were they were talk about how I think I
think at one point um Epstein says you're a naughty boy or something. It's just it's just so sick. Um and it's I
mean it's a lot to take on. don't think that I mean I'm I'm quite again I'm quite impressed with the fact that people haven't moved on from this
because my assumption was it would blow over quite quickly. I mean all of my social media feeds um you know all of my
conversations with people are just you pretty much relentless links and like photos from from from this tanch. There
is a lot of very interesting stuff in there. There's probably a lot of rubbish as well. Um you know as sickening as as
as visceral as a as a as a as a mental image as it is. I mean, I don't quite think that, you know, George HW Bush
raped a young boy who then went on to see uh people ripping out children's intestines and eating their feces. I
mean, I that's not I don't want that to be true, but do do you believe the references to
pizzas are references to children? I mean, it's kind of taken the the the
Pizzagate conspiracy back to uh, you know, to the I mean, it's at the point where Tucker Carlson is legitimizing the
Pizzagate conspiracy with Ian Carol. Well, I mean, they're quite clearly
salacious references. Like, I think there's one email where someone refers to how like he loved the pizza and the
cheese is still dripping down his chin. Um I mean again like is so horrendous
but I mean there there are a prepundonderant number of references to pizza it must be said. Um I don't necessarily think that validates the
entire um you know pizza gate uh theory but I mean it's quite clear that there was there used code words a lot and
there was also indications there were certain things that they couldn't discuss that that Epstein wasn't willing to discuss on email. So I mean they're
happy to you know boast about being a pedophile in private but you know there are certain you know offlimits areas. I mean I think in one email um and
Mandlesson asks uh Chumly asks Epstein how is freedom and he's like oh it's like soft and warm and you know it just
quite clearly you very clear sexual overtones to so many things that he said. Um but yeah, as I say I think
there's there is still a lot more to come out here because people have only I mean you know they've only been out for a few less I think it's a week. Um and
you know there's there is an enormous amount of stuff to get through. Um and yeah some of it will be rubbish but you
know other uh you know uh you know other material will be very worthy. I mean
again on the subject of you know creating content for children there was a there's a whole discussion that um
Epstein had with a futurist he knew um called uh his name's Hullman um and uh
where um yeah Pablo Hullman who's this uh you know this kind of digital guru
they were discussing creating um edutainment for children um and how to educate children using um video games.
There's a specific refullman specifically says, well, you know, um uh
if if you invest in a computer game for for teaching people, then you get the maximum brains for like the minimum
amount of money. I mean, of course, that would be, you know, abused to again presumably abused to disseminate
particular messages um to younger audiences. I mean, Epste himself was banned um under uh under an agreement
Microsoft had with New York authorities to to deplatform sexual offenders. Um and but but he was still using it for a
year before they got rid of him um you know on the basis of his on the basis of his prosecution um a few years prior.
But it's yeah, I mean it's all it's all just like really really weird. And I think there's another there's another there's another aspect of this which is
quite interesting which is X seems clearly a [ __ ] Like he wasn't a really smart dude and like in advance of
have you watched his interview with Steve Bannon for example? I was I was going to say like yeah it's
really bad. He does not come across well. And what makes it even worse is that based on his on on his released emails um uh in advance of this
interview, he was buying like investing for dummies and other books like kind of explainer books on finance in advance of
this interview because he wanted to look smart and he still comes across as a [ __ ] But I mean, you know, I don't his
entire backstory is quite clearly fraudulent and um you know, there's no way that he went from being this kind of
lowly math teacher to being on the board of Rothschild in a year. Um I think that he was probably chosen as someone who
yes had a prediliction for young girls. Um you probably had a lot of dirt in himself and then he was they just but it
was it was judged that he would be a very useful um you know uh kind of intelligence asset who could gather
information globally maybe you know secure compromat on people uh and uh and
probably wouldn't ask too many questions because a he wasn't that bright and b he himself was compromised. He can barely
form a sentence. I think there's, you know, the email style
is actually indicative of a lack of intelligence. And it isn't just something about the way elites do
business. Like he really just couldn't form a sentence. He writes in an idiotic way. He speaks in an idiotic way. He has
no gravitas. He has like almost no vibe at all and seems kind of smmy. And um in
in the interview with Bannon, he's you know he's he's unable to articulate
why he started the Santa Fe Institute. He's like it's I I did it I did it just to examine why ideas actually happen.
And you know a computer can tell us that it can train itself even better than a
human and do something better than a human can do. But I want to know why. So that's why I started that. And and then
he he he gets asked about the trilateral commission when he how he joined it at age 32 and he's unable to provide any
color about what took place inside the trilateral commission. So you you start to wonder
about him, but he was in the middle of a vast and powerful transatlantic
network. Uh the you know the what Cright Mills would have called the power elite.
Uh Janine Wedell wrote a book called um what are they the shadow elite or um you
know another important book understanding how power actually operates in the west and Epstein was in
the middle of it. I mean he should have he should have um I I don't I don't think he was on her radar at the time
but that's the value of these emails. I think it's the the value of the emails is you see who's actually in the room,
who's actually playing the game and what kind of depraved culture defines them
and how uh actually intellectually cretinous many of them are. I mean,
they're just like they're like kind of like chopra like cute girls, you know, I'm gonna
cute girls are real. Like of course this is the fraud who we know through Oprah.
All the spiritual frauds like Shmoolie Bautia we know of him through Oprah. Rabbi Schmoolie, Dr. Oz, we know of him
through Oprah. Dr. Phil, they're all a bunch of weird Zionist frauds. And of
course, Deepak Chopra was in Epstein's network begging Epstein to come to Israel. Um I want to I want to c can you
join us for another segment, but can I also ask you about two articles uh of yours?
Sure. because uh like if I turn you loose, we can we can just I can just let you go.
Um I mean, sure, you're an institution, but I want to kind of um Thanks, man.
organize this a little bit. Okay. Uh you just dropped a piece for us
about King Kura, which was a boy's home in Belfast, Ireland.
Yeah. the you raised the question of and it this is very topical. Your intro
leads with Prince Andrew and his relationship with Epstein, but it goes into this boy's home, which was the site
of a massive public scandal. And you raised the question of whether British intelligence was actually using this
boy's home as a center for sex abuse in order to establish honey traps to compromise powerful individuals. tell
us, you know, in five minutes or less about your your the piece you just published with us.
Yeah, sure. So, um it's in in in no small part based on a
conversation that I had with Chris Moore, who's this veteran, um BBC journalist who's been researching King Kora since 1980. Um it's uh yeah, I
mean, it's pretty dynamite stuff. There have been sus suspicions and allegations that King Kora was um it was this this
this this home for orphans in Belfast in occupied Ireland, British occupied Ireland and um for many years uh
speculation as well that it was used by the security and intelligence services and you know based on on um Moore's
research I mean that again it seems pretty irresistible um as a conclusion. There's all sorts of weirdness around it
where it's quite clear that the victims were being raped by um you know quite uh
you know powerful prominent figures um among them um Lord Mountbatton um who
was you know Andrew's great uncle Andrew took his surname interestingly um he was
Mount Batam was a kind of you know um uh kind of key key figure in Andrew's early
life um at one stage Andrew was uh tapped to potentially marry um a young
relative of Mount Battons who was like 16 um at the time um and um yeah it's
it's Mount Batton is the original surname of the the British royal family um and they changed it um because of
because of the war because they were Nazis. Yeah. Yeah. Because they were Nazis and they were German they were very German.
Um but anyway that's by the bite. Yeah. That so essentially like the Concura basically got busted wide open in um in
uh in 1980. Um and um the uh the people running it were sent to trial. One of
them was go was originally going to testify. Um this was this is a guy um called William McGrath who boasted to
his associates of working for British intelligence and knowing people within MI5 and MO6 who were running this dirty
war in occupied Ireland where they ran paramilitary groups on both sides of the conflict. Um and uh yeah that the the he
he boasted about that uh quite openly. when he was arrested, he said that he was going to um you know expose a lot of
inconvenient truths. When the case got to trial, he just actually pleaded guilty and then he and his two
confederates at the home got meager sentences despite the fact there was you this mountain of evidence that they'
systematically sexually abused young boys and pimped them out to uh big ticket clients like Mount Batton. Um and
um you know since then there have been multiple official investigations. Um there have been, you know, several police um probes that haven't really um
uncovered much of the truth. Although, I mean, if you read between the lines of the whitewash and the cover up, sometimes you can find the truth. And
there's a very there was a uh it was a historical um uh abuse inquiry which was
convened at the start of the last decade. Um they uh uncovered evidence that Morris Oldfield, who was the head
of um MI6 and was confirmed to uh be at least gay, if not have um proclivities
in the direction of young children, um frequented King. They uh and knew the um
uh knew the people running it very close uh you know, had a close relationship with them. The report admits that, but
is very quick to dismiss any suggestion that he was engaged in pedophilic abuse, which is quite weird. Again, as I say,
if you read between the lines, it's quite clear. Um, and yeah, I mean, the
this has kind of been a stain on Britain for a very long time. Um, the cover up continues. In April 2021, the BBC was
going to uh broadcast a documentary called Lost Boys. Um, which documents how numerous children vanished in
Belfast um during the troubles. And the the documentary concludes that all the cases are linked to abuse at Concora.
That got pulled at the last minute. Um you can still find its BBC web entry, but you know, it has not and likely will
never be broadcast by the the British state broadcaster uh for obvious reasons. And I might add that the uh
Moore uh told me that there are people involved in the company that made the production company that made the film um
had breakins at their homes. So like the coverup still, you know, obviously continues to this day. Um, uh, Prince
Andrew, the former Prince Andrew, uh, has no such luck because, I mean, he's been stripped of all of his titles. He's
been stripped of his ro, uh, his, uh, his royal lodgings. And, you know, a Buckingham Palace, uh, spokesperson in
response to all of the the, uh, disclosures about Andrew and and Epstein contained in new releases said, "Well,
it's up to Andrew and his conscience if he wants to tell the truth about what happened." So I mean you pretty brutally
thrown under the bus um uh by you know the British establishment because yeah again a sacrificial lamb which is not
you know presumably being offered up because they don't want people um digging deeper into the fact the bizarre
phenomenon of the British royal family having a vast profusion of pedophiles in their gene pool. Um, you know, I mean,
that's a very obvious question to ask about why that is and it's not being asked, but yeah, I mean, the media is
hammering him, hammering Andrew like you, pretty intensely. Um and I think that the you know it's in it's
interesting that it's kind of become you know allow uh allowable because as I reported uh for for for the gray zone a
few months back um you know for for many many years there were um you know open there was open speculation and indeed
you know kind of muttering in the media that Prince Andrew very much liked the company of young girls and um you know
he just carried on uh with he carried on a pace without this affecting his position when his ties that Epstein
emerged, you know, an official statement was put out by Buckingham Palace saying, "Well, um they barely knew each other
and they met a few times and they they weren't they were never friends after um uh Epstein got busted." Um which is
complete and utter rubbish um to say the least. Um they you know, Andrew allegedly went uh wanted to say goodbye
to Epstein in person and stayed with him for several days in New York and there was like a a dinner thrown in Prince
Andrew's honor. And this was allegedly because he was, you know, honorable and wanted to say goodbye in person and why
you would stay at Epstein's mansion when there's like an infinite number of luxury hotels and you
I love the excuses. It's like uh Nelly BS, Barry Weiss's wife, is saying uh she
was hanging out with Epstein just because she's a reporter and wants to know what these awful people are actually doing. And Katie Kurrick didn't
know who he was. Uh but Andrew, I mean, they were they were tight. They were
thick as thieves. They went on a walk in Central Park together. Uh, Kit, you mentioned uh earlier a very bizarre
email from uh Windows President Stevens. And if I [clears throat] don't know if
you can turn your notifications off. Yeah. No, I'm doing it now. Sorry. And I had a fun idea that, you know, we'll
start a a we'll start a film studio in the in the breakaway territory of Somali
land, which was just recognized by Israel, um is now a real geostrategic
target for the Zionist axis, uh called Somaliwood Studios with quote unquote
The Boys in LA. and they wanted to professionalize the African film industry and believed it might also be
fun fun. And they were talking about, you know, a World Economic Forum movement in Nigeria.
Um, you know, it's hard for me to extrapolate
the real meaning of this other than what they were seeking to do, which is to set
up some kind of um pro some kind of
film studios in Africa to influence young people there. Um, and you have a
forthcoming piece for us where you tie this to Sesame Street. Yeah, sure. you cons what you consider
to be a CI a potential a CIA mind control program are are you can prove to
our uh whatever normies are watching right now that you're not insane.
Yeah, I mean well I mean I did I did I did wonder whether you were going to send a van with people in white coats um after I submitted that [laughter] but
yeah like the uh I mean it's it is quite wild but you know this is all publicly
available information but no one's put the jigsaw pieces together. I think that there's a with the exception of you Jake
there's a research called Jacob Levich who did some did some great work into into the origins of um into the origins
of uh Sesame Street. Yeah, that I mean all of the people who were involved in creating Sesame Street were all people
who had worked in psychological warfare and propaganda for the military or intelligence services. Um, and this
included a um there was a uh there was um a psychiatrist called Chester M.
Pierce um who is this kind of uh very prominent African-American um who founded the Black Psychiatrist of
America the same year that that Sesame Street was broadcast. um and he worked uh on MK Ultra and conducted very
unethical human experiments on um unwitting and unwilling hum test
subject. Um uh there were you know many um MK Ultra uh experiments which focused
on children. Um the CIA was very interested in um create in uh uh
creating techniques for interrogation and torture that made people more childlike and therefore more you know
kind of open and susceptible to manipulation and uh uh and and you might
make disclosures they wouldn't otherwise um because they're quote unquote mature defenses crumble. Um and I mean so
that's one aspect of it but more generally if you look at the the found the publicly available founding documents of Sesame Street which were
written by this woman called Joan Ganskuni who was uh she was part she was tied to this anti-communist
uh journal called partisan review that was funded by the CIA and then she she decided to get involved in children's
television interestingly and and in these in these documents she openly talks about how they want to uh suppress
quote unquote aggression um in young children, particularly black black Americans. Um, and um, the a a one-year
review of of Sesame Street written in 1970, which appraised its its performance today, specifically noted
that it had managed that Sesame Street managed to effectively infiltrate the homes of a
vast uh, proportion of um, uh, you the population of various ghettos in major
cities. Um, and you know, people would sit there, children would sit there and watch Sesame Street kind of a go. They
were a captive audience and a blank slate, you know, combined. And that this
was perfect for beaming particular messages, um, you know, to, uh, you know, to them. And so, um,
excuse me. It was a very effective means at a time when, you know, there was significant racial tensions in the US
and, you know, major riots and like there were, you know, the civil rights movement was really picking up steam. um
you know it only only became emboldened with the killing of uh Martin Luther King in 1968. Um that yeah this was a
means of effectively creating very passive young children who you know wouldn't cause problems, wouldn't
complain, um would just kind of just tacitly accept ingrained racism and you
wouldn't ga engage in subversive political action. Um and you know it was it was viewed as very effective uh for
reaching these specific audiences. Um so I mean you know
It is a a matter of public record that the specific purpose of this show was quote unquote riot control from the
perspective of the military and intelligence propagandists who who created it. And they conducted research
which found you like music children were particularly susceptible to music and puppets and colors. Um and you know
that's why you know Big Bird exists. And then you know you fast forward to today and you know the the US has uh not only
exported Sesame Street to a number of foreign countries and you know they they very bizarrely they ran they they
created Sesame Street programming for for young people in Isbekistan to teach them to cope with the quote unquote new
normal um uh which is you know quite sinister. And then I think in after the
vaccine roll out at Elmo, there was a video of the red puppet getting a um an
injection and encouraging kids to do the same, which is like I mean again this this kind of passed by without anyone
really noticing it. It's deeply Israel. Sorry, Israel has a version of Sesame Street which
of course cultivates young people to join the Israeli military and explains to them
why they need to participate in the military. It's the with the same style of programming. So
yeah. Well, I mean it's it's been repeated over and over again and and and it's you know we were discussing how
Jeffrey Epstein had an interest in video games. I mean you that's the way to reach people now. But I mean for the you
a few years before that they were specifically talking about setting up a uh you know a um a Hollywood redux in um
in in Somalia. And I might add that Somali land, which is this kind of this breakaway territory, um that's uh yeah,
was recognized at the very start of this year by um Israel and has been in the running um for as a potential dumping
ground for refugees from Gaza. Um it's this very strange kind of barren um land
that's like very heavily it's very heavily penetrated by the British. So the British effectively can they run it
government, police, courts, military um you know they even draft legislation which gets adopted. the primary focus is
resource extraction. But the the the the Zionist fascination uh with um uh Somali
land goes a lot deeper and in during World War II there was a push by major Jewish organizations to create what was
known as the Harra Council which was this uh they they advocated creating a
Jewish state on the territory of Somali land and and justified this on the basis of Jewish scripture. Um and so I don't I
think that there's this kind of very strange religious fascination with Somalia Somalia and Somali land and it
keep it keep it keeps cropping up and you know that um Israel is the very first country to recognize um uh excuse
me it's very was the very first country to recognize Somali Somali land which has been gunning for international
recognition since 1991. Um Israel is moving quite quickly to forge economic and military relationships with
Somaliand. It's within striking distance of Yemen. um which you know is that's
you know quite clearly an interest for um Tel Aviv. Uh but but but also but also as well I think that there's a push
to get the US the US government to recognize smileand and when that happens I'm sure that most you know a
significant proportion of the world um you know which are the Washington's assorted international vessels will
probably follow suit. Um and you know that's that's a absolutely dire um
outcome for Somalia about which they're going to be extremely unhappy. Yeah. Um, so I think they're unhappy about having
been bombed over 20 times this year under orders from Trump. Uh, while the
background noise of that bombing reverberates in Minneapolis with, uh,
seven 7K cartel influencers descending on Minneapolis to paint Somali Americans
as the main architects of fraud in the United States. Um, now the Small
Business Association run by Kelly Laughafler is giving a huge palent
contract to Palunteer to investigate that. And you know, I was wondering, did Peter Teal pay any of those Nick Shirley
influencers to harass kids in daycarees? And uh, you know, is this is is there
some relationship there? And what about Kelly Laughler, who committed a massive
fraud of insider trading on the Senate Intelligence Committee where she was given a tip that the pandemic was going
to be declared, so she sold her stock and made $20 million just like that. Um
well, she's she's giving out these contracts, but this is the background noise for war on Somalia. Somali land is
geostrategically located. It is the perfect place from
where Israel can attack Yemen and advance the dream of regime change,
removing Ansar Allah, which defeated the US in a recent war. Uh it's a major
choke economic choke point. So it's obvious why they're focused on Somali land. So these emails are fascinating.

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And then, you know, your point about Sesame Street uh being
designed to program and indoctrinate young people into a particular point of
view to sort of particularly to neutralize the aggression and uh potential
revolutionary tendencies of inner city black Americans after the riots of the
late60s, the MLK riots. It connects to a
uh an email that some internet sleuths just discovered in this massive Epstein
trench which is so meaningful to me and just so amazing and it's from Jess
Staley when he was the CEO of Barlay's Bank. He's an American banker or some
would say bankster. This is after this is in you know just years after Occupy
Wall Street and after the financial crash and he's writing to Jeffrey Epstein you want to know why we are not
Sao Paulo and he's referring to I think a kind of color revolution which was
going on in Brazil in which masses of people were in the streets to remove Dilma you Dilma Rusev uh who was the
center-left social democratic president you Why we're not S Paulo? Watch the TV
ads on the Super Bowl. It's all about hip blacks and hip cars with white women. The group that should be in the
streets has been bought off by Jay-Z. Now, I don't know if he's literally
saying they were bought off by Jay-Z. Uh Jay-Z was really a symbol at that time
of neoliberal capitalism. He had made himself sort of a spokesman for the
financial establishment for Wall Street. He actually came into Occupy Wall Street and attempted to subvert it, co-opt it,
and essentially undermine it by introducing his own own his own brand, Occupy Wall Streets. Basically like, you
know, let's keep uh you know, young black people away from hating Wall
Street after their dream of home home ownership was just dashed forever. Uh
Jay-Z got some minority ownership stake in the Brooklyn Nets just so he could
kind of be a symbol of the Barlay's Center, which was named for the bank
that Jess Staley owned, but which also kind of g doomed uh that area around
Atlantic Yards and uh to massive gentrification and pushed what
was left of the black population there further out uh towards East New York
because it was this was a massive Frank Giri designed arena, the Barclay Center. So Jay-Z came in to kind of legitimize
that whole thing. So does he mean that they were literally bought off by Jay-Z? Jay-Z was at that time starting to pump
money into Ferguson into BLM. Was that like a plot to d to subvert Occupy Wall
Street by focusing everyone in on identity politics and race in place of
class? Look at where BLM wound up years later in nihilism, liberalism,
just a tool for the Democratic party against Trump.
And you you start to ask all these questions and you know it makes you a little bit conspiratorial. I don't know
what your reaction is, but this one hit really hard for me. Well, yeah. I mean, there was obviously
like pictures of um [clears throat] Puffy and Jay-Z um you know, uh snapping
photos with the Clintons and Bill Gates and Epstein. So, I mean, you never know. I mean, this is where this is where this
stuff takes you. Like, if you just do the the slightest bit of digging. I mean, just just really quickly on the Palunteer point as well. Yeah. I I just
the ubiquity of that company is absolutely insane. like they've been given they've been given British
government contracts um you know worth hundreds of millions of of pounds including like you handing over
sensitive NHS data to them. I mean this is you know Peter Theel's uh Batman
influence you know surveillance and spying tool that creates all of these you know very detailed databases on
people um and is used by you know a worrying amount of intelligence services in the military and is increasingly
being rolled out to you domestic um you know public facing stuff and um you know
Mandlesson was involved in um uh arranging a visit by Kier Dharma to
Pantier HQ and then um you subsequent to this uh the ministry of def uh the
ministry of defense gives Palanteer a 240 million contract but this is it's denied that there's any causal link
there whatsoever but I mean they are they are cropping up all over the place they're not it's not being talked about
at all um in uh particularly in in mainstream by mainstream politicians but
I mean the the British media is increasingly getting concerned about this which is quite interesting um and
uh yeah I mean again it's just it's it's it's quite of how this stuff works. And
I think that if if nothing else, the app files do kind of lift the lid on not on,
you know, how often how unsophisticated this stuff is. It's literally like, you know, one rich, powerful, awful person
speaking to another powerful awful person and setting up a meeting with someone and then the deal comes out of
it, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And it's like, you
know, I mean, yeah. Palanteer, a Palanteer and Oracle as well, which is, you know, another deeply shady firm
which has the the Trump administration is Larry Ellison's firm. Yeah. That they I mean they it was like
Palanteer and Oracle that got the the COVID contracts in the US, wasn't it? I mean Yeah. I mean it's it's deeply
creepy and you know this stuff is ratcheting all the time um without much in the way of you know public you know
knowledge let alone concern. Although I do think that the [clears throat] trying to get involved in um you know
like in you know uh private sensitive private health data is probably you know a bridge too far because I mean the
British still rever the NHS um even though it's been kind of driven into the ground in you know over the past well 30
years if not longer but I mean the the yeah it's it
is um you know quite quite extraordinary that this stuff h just happens without anyone really knowing about it. Um, and
you know, as I say, it's not sophisticated. It's not, you know, it's it's not like some highlevel extremely
slick PR and lobbying campaign. It's literally just messaging Jeffrey Epstein
who puts you in touch with, you know, someone else in his pedo rolodex. Um, and uh, yeah, I mean,
the whether um, anyone, you know, named is going to face, you know, criminal charges is, you know, is another
question. um you know perhaps the laws don't exist to actually prohibit this stuff aside from you know leaking
information like a civ directly directly to epsy that is illegal and you he could be could be got on that um a statement
demanding that people leave him alone notwithstanding yeah so [sighs]
there's so much there I uh I'm I'm almost like getting getting lost because
there there's there's so there's so many areas where we could take this uh but can you stay
for one more segment on Jeffrey Epstein's uh uh Jeffrey Epstein [clears throat]
actually being a Russian spy and that's really what this is about is Russia. Uh
this is sort of the the coverup that we're witnessing in real time being
played out through mainstream media. Uh what is it? The Telegraph dropped this
story. It started in British media MI6 adjacent media Poland to examine increasingly likely
possibility that pedophilia scandal was co-organized by intelligence services in
Moscow. Oh, really? Well, yeah, it it it seems increasingly
clear to everyone who wants to deny what this is, who Jeffrey Epstein's real
associates were, uh, that would be CBS News. You mentioned Oracle, Larry
Ellison, his son David Ellison at Paramount, buying CBS for Barry Weiss,
whose free press he purchased. Barry Weiss, the self-described Zionist fanatic whose life is dedicated to
promoting Israel, who's basically o also owned by the Palunteer and PayPal mafia. I mean, Joe Lansdale basically helps run
her fake university in Austin. She's uh Mark Andre's
PR agent. She's hosting all of these uh close Epstein associates on her new
network. She tried to get Ellen Dersowitz in a debate on gun violence with Dana Lo. I mean, who the hell wants
to hear that? And now CBS is introducing to the American public that it's actually Russia that's behind Jeffrey
Epstein. Poland says it's looking into possible connections between sex offender Jeffrey
Epstein and Russian intelligence services. The announcement came after the US Justice Department last week released millions more files related to
the federal investigation into epste. Okay. Well, I I just realized we always
get demonetized if we show anything from CBS because they actually don't want people to see what they broadcast
because the only reason it's going to show up on the internet is to be mocked. But it's clear what they're doing there.
Oh, the Washington Post. What do we got? Yeah, this is on the day that Netanyahu
is denying uh that Israel [cough] had anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein.
Epstein built ties to Russians and sought to meet Putin. Files show this is from, you know, that the P they laid off
like onethird of their staff and the rest of the staff is just there to pump out like MI6 CIA propaganda. I guess
that's why they didn't fire their um you know their their digital disinformation
editor, Joseph Men. Jesus Christ. We're in the wrong game, aren't we, Max? But um I mean in all
serious I mean in all seriousness I mean I think that what what's interesting this this did start in Britain. Um and
you know a number of uh a number of Brit you British the Daily Mail also.
Yeah. Yeah. a number of British newspapers which are you know among the worst newspapers in the entire world um
which is saying something um they they really ran with this and there it was quite interesting to see the mainstream
media jump onto it and then you have like the the the the leader of uh the this opposition party the Liberal
Democrats like openly saying that in parliament well um you know Epstein was
clearly linked to Russia so that creates like a massive national security risk with Mandlesson being so close to him. I
mean, maybe he was compromised by the Russians. I mean, it's complete and utter rubbish. And I might add that like Mandlesson also at one stage was like
offering to help Epstein get a Russian visa. I mean, it's quite strange spy that can't get a uh visa to Russia. And
and there's another point we made here as well, which is that didn't they couldn't get the visa and he was coaching him on how to
approach Putin and Putin didn't want to talk to him. Yeah. Well, I mean, he kept on trying to
meet with Putin. Um, and that's, you know, one of the reasons why he appears in the document so often, but also as
well, I mean, it's quite clear that Epstein was interested in in trying to groom um, uh, poor choice of words. He
was trying to groom um, opposition politicians in Russia because he was angry that Putin was a a stop to Epstein
making an enormous amount of money via, you know, potentially illicit means in the country. Um, so I mean, yeah, it's
it's complete and utterly farable. What's interesting is like how uh people see through this. Like I looked at the
Daily Mail's report on this, if you even call it that, and the comment section was full of like people saying, "This is
absolute [ __ ] Why are you trying Why are you breathing life into this
Russia gate corpse?" And I mean, in some cases, it has been you quite prominent. Russia gave like the complete lunatic
Peter Jukes who runs this very spooky publication by line by line times who
says that you know Putin's all over the emails. He was like this key Epstein contact. It's not true. Um and you know
Epstein himself as I mentioned he was in touch with people tied to MI6. He was tied in touch with people tied to Mosad.
Um he was of course you know in in close quarters with Ahood Ehood Barrick who I
might add as well um you know uh Barack has launched um this kind of flew under the radar. he launched this firm that
sells um facial uh like recognition technology, but also um it they've
created this technology that can hack into CCTV cameras in real time and replace the footage. Um so I mean one
might wonder why Barack would be so interested in such a resource. Um and you know in other emails Epstein openly
states I work for the Rothschilds. So, I mean, you know, I'm really
not seeing how, you know, in in any universe you could plausibly claim that he was he was tied to Russia. He quite
clearly had an in with Zilinski as well. Um, interestingly, Putin allegedly um
told Epstein or people within his millure that he thought that Zilinski was um controlled by Israel. And of
course um you Zilinski has tried to market future Ukraine as a you know as another Israel heavily weaponized
society that's um you know going to run around the world causing um chaos carrying out assassinations um at the US
behav um what's his name the the senior
Emirati oh Sullean bin uh his name I'm I'm
forgetting his name. I'll pull it up shortly. Yeah, but there's I mean this this uh
this Sulaman um he messaged um Epstein in the wake of uh the Mossad's
assassination of Ma Mammud Mabu um in
Dubai in January 2010. He and and he was very angry. He seemed very quite angry with Epstein and was saying this doesn't
help anyone. Sult. It's Sultan Bin Sule Man. And uh he's off to sample a fresh
100% female Russian on his yacht. He declares in an email to Jeffrey Epstein.
Yeah. Well, it's like Yeah. He in Sulleon says that this killing this assassination, this kind of daring
assassination in Dubai where like all of these Mossad agents like stole the identities of like British and Australian and Irish um uh citizens like
pretend to be Maboo. They killed a they assassinated a Hamas operative whose name was Maboo. uh
dressed they dressed as uh tourists and followed him into his hotel room dressed as um tennis like they were they were
wear holding tennis rackets the Mossad assassination team and then they failed
to be able to kill him. They tried to drown him in his bathtub. Then they tried to electrocute him and they failed
and it took hours for them to be able to finally strangle him. They stole Canadian passports which made a real
Canadians which made Canadians Canada's government even under Steven Harper the most
Zionist prime minister ever at that time uh very mad and uh so so so what what I
I missed this one. So what did he reveal? Well, no. I mean, in the email that that Sullean sends this this this
message to Epstein in the wake of his killing, saying that he wanted to had a bone to pick with Epstein over it and
said, "This doesn't help anyone. You why did Mossad do this?" So, he's clearly seen as a cutout between Mossad and the
UAE. I mean, Israel and the UAE have very close relations. Um, so I mean this was like you a specta spectacularly
brazen thing to do and and you ma massively pissed off um the uh the
governments of the assorted European countries where they and and Australia where they stole people's identities um
and claimed to be and and produced fake passports under those identities. And so
I mean yeah his Epstein's relationship with with Mossad is like pretty clear um
from the uh from the emails um you know uh it's there's there's all sorts of um
there's there are I mean on the subject of Epstein you not being particularly intelligent. I mean there are some
emails where he discusss he discusses his um contempt for the [ __ ] Um, and
uh, there's another um, there's there's there's a another email where he says
that he was sat down with some far right figures who claimed that Jews run the world. Um, and he was Epstein said,
"Name one." And they said, "You you've just had you like princes and presidents and like heads of government, you
passing through your apartment in a matter of days." Yeah. And he was like, "Oh, I guess I am the I
guess I I do run the world." You know, I mean, bizarre. Here's him. An exchange
between Epstein and Steve Bannon in 2018. Bannon says, "All roads lead to Beijing and Jeffrey Epste counters or
Tel Aviv." Which inspired the title of this live stream. Um Jeffrey Epstein's foundation donated
enormous well not enormous but substantial amounts to uh pro-Israel and
Israeli institutions including friends of the IDF which provides equipment to
the Israeli apartheid forces. Um the Jewish [clears throat] National Fund
which steals land from Palestinians. Hill Foundation.
Uh it's clear. I mean, why would It's clear that Russia was directing him to do this, right? And
yeah, absolutely. I love this one from uh Sky News. This is like the ultimate like who do you who
are you going to believe me or your two lion eyes. Newly released voice recording appears to show Jeffrey Epstein advising an unknown person on
how to approach Russian President Vladimir Putin. Any appearance in the Epstein files does not imply any
wrongdoing. I I got it wrong by the way about Mandlesson um being advised. So who's the unknown
person? They don't show any photo of that unknown person. Well, that's the former Israeli prime
minister and defense minister and head of military intelligence and most decorated soldier in Israeli history,
Mr. Israel, Ahood Barack. Yeah, why don't you tell us that? Yeah, indeed. Indeed. I mean it's that
that's that's an interesting feature as well is that like that the media is as m I mean in as far as I I can see the
British media is absolutely go is as much as it's going for Andrew and and Mandlesson it's not saying anything
about his connections to Israel and that's just kind of like unsayable in the media entirely. Um, and I mean, you
know, whether they've just whether there's something more sinister behind the the blaming Russia or it's just a
kind of go-to bad guy which uh gets the media off the hook for not talking about his connections to Israel. I don't know.
I mean, laughable stuff, though. It's clear if it's Donald Tusk pushing
it that there's an interest in trying to implicate Russia and trying to turn the
public's attention back to hating Russia. It's clear that that's first and like
one of the primary objectives here. But there's also a clear objective to deflect from the obvious which is that
he is he surrounded himself with pro-Israel figures and
Israeli figures. He hosted the current president of Israel is Isaac Herzog on
Epstein Island in 2014. Ahoud Barack was one of his closest confederates as you
said, Kit. They were working on setting up a palunteer-like surveillance firms
together. Uh here's an email of a list of just a list of people for Steve
Bannon. You can see who's on it. I mean, you can just go to Jmail and just search any name and you'll find just endless
pro-Israel figures in hisstead. Teal Hoffman Salsberger, the head of um the
publisher of the New York Times, Mandolen Barack.
Yeah, I I might add as well. I I I discussed how um Barack like runs this
this firm called Ter which you know can edit edit CCTV. This is actually like a
burgeoning um uh kind of cottage industry in Israel at the moment. there's like a lot of focus on AI
powered video creation and editing technology and usually these firms like you know run by people who are like
alumni of unit 8 82 82000 uh or uh the um you know the the the occupation force
uh you know cyber cyber units um and you know you've got to ask yourself well you know why are they so interested in
editing real real time footage um and is the question is is is the answer because
um you relying on AI removes the kind of troublesome human element inherent in
old-fashioned intelligence agency hunting traps. Um, and you know the
whether this solves the problem of you know needing a a real life individual to see oversee the this kind of operation
and targets take the bait so you can just you know create fake blackmail material. I mean the CIA has a history
of try of of of making fake sex tapes of of foreign leaders they don't like. is not that much of a stretch. Um,
yeah, I mean we I mean we're already kind of in we're already, you know, through the looking glass with Sesame Street and everything.
So I suppose, you know, all is permissible. This was definitely a a deep dive. Uh,
just one of the key key takeaways is the Israel connection, the pro-Israel
connection. That can't be emphasized enough. It looks like Epstein helped
coordinate Robert Craft's legal defense. That's the owner of the New England Patriots, who has a a program to take
his players to Israel. Craft is an archionist mega donor. Uh he was
arrested for soliciting prostitution at a jerk shack or tugandrub joint in
Florida, I believe, in 2019. And uh yeah, Epstein emailed both Bannon and
Ahood Barack about it. Uh Mitch Weber, who's on the board of the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, where
uh war criminal Elliot Abrams has also served, was giving it. I I don't know the context of this email, but on the
surface of it, it looks like he was giving Epstein advice on exploiting jurisdictional differences and age of
consent laws to have sex with minors. Again, I would like to see the full context of that email thread. You have
Alan Dersuitz who is Epstein's lawyer and friend who maintains that he kept
his underwear on during massages on Epstein's island who was nominated actually a lot of people missed this by
Netanyahu for the uh position of Israel's UN ambassador but didn't take
it because he didn't want to give up his US citizenship and likes being in Martha's Vineyard more than he does
being in Israel even though he can't buy perogis there anymore. a confidential human source told the FBI that Durowitz
uh was on the phone constantly with Mossad to and he was debriefing Mossad.
Uh there's a separate um CHS document on how Trump has been co-opted by Israel
that I'll go over a little bit later. I actually think I have an idea of who that confidential human source is. It's
someone who's been in the room with a lot of these figures who have been named here and who has definitely some
credibility issues, some legal serious legal issues. Uh, and I reached out to
them to ask if they were this confidential human source and didn't hear back probably because of legal
issues. Um, but this is someone who I think knows what they're talking about.
Um, you know, the Galileain Maxwell connection is just so obvious. Who is
her father? Robert Maxwell, who was known to be a Mossad asset, had a de
facto state funeral in Israel. Um, and there's a bizarre poem that
Gileain Maxwell authored after 911 that comes out of these uh where she says uh I mean there's it
is poetic in a way. It's Gmax. She's Gmax. Yeah.
It's the year 2020 2032 and a father and his son walk the streets of lower Manhattan approaching the site where the
World Trade Center used to be on the end of the 20th century. In the end of the 20th century, the father size and
comments to think that right here used to be the Twin Towers. The son, not understanding, asks his father, "What
are the Twin Towers?" The father smiles and looks at the son and explains, "The Twin Towers were two huge buildings that
used to be here until 2001 when the Arabs destroyed them." The son looks up to his father and asks, "And what are
the Arabs?" I don't know if this was like some chain email going along going around like spread by like Zionist
boomer uncles and aunts, but uh and what are the Arabs basically that the Arabs
have been totally exterminated is the takeaway from this by 2032.
Um well, I guess they started with Gaza. But uh interestingly, when I've been in Gaza during bombings, what people say is
where are the Arabs? because they feel totally sold out by the main Arab states. Whether it's, you know, the
Amiradis and the Saudis or the Egyptians, they feel totally sold out by
everyone except for those pesky Shia Arabs in Lebanon and uh the
Yemeni Houthi. Uh but I think she's saying the Arabs are gone. And this really speaks to a
certain genocidal mentality. I mean, it's just too obvious that that's that
he was in it deeply immersed in a very Zionist culture and we need to we need to have a conversation about that and
that these emails are they're bad for the Jews. Uh Chsky, too. I mean, we should quickly
we should quickly cover Chsky and then I'll let you go. Um because I know it's it's late where you are and I want to cover two other
topics before I go. But uh you know Nam Chsky
uh he you know he helped me in some ways deprogram myself from conventional
liberalism when I was much much younger even though I look just like a model of
youth right now. I was once much younger and more naive and Chsky's work was is
very accessible. It's kind of like the radical author that you're presented with when you demonstrate an interest in
ideas outside the mainstream to the left. Uh, you know, I was in Los Angeles. His lectures were constantly on
the local Pacifica network, KPFK. I wasn't uh, you know, I I I kind of
knew about Michael Pari. His work was floating around, but it wasn't, you know, quite it wasn't it wasn't quite as
heavily promoted as Chsky. And Chsky did some seinal
published some seinal works. He did a great book um on military humanism uh in
the 90s when there was when very few others were questioning it. Michael Pary being one, you know, the destruction of
Yugoslavia. But Chsky also celebrated in his own kind of subdued way the fall of
the socialist block. uh you know he had a some great lectures for Hey Market on
US imperialism in Latin America. But then you know later in life after he met
his new wife Valeria he started to kind of sell a lot of those views out he
actually effectively called for regime change in Nicaragua after 2018. He was
presenting a very puebla group center-left analysis of Latin America
late in his life. I think he signed some letter uh on Syria advancing regime
change there. I I he might have withdrawn his name. Can't quite remember that one. He was writing articles in the
nation undermining the BDS movement. And all along he was having these meetings
with Ahood Barack which were brokered by Jeffrey Epstein.
And now we learn in this latest tranch of emails that he was giving Epstein advice on kind of how to beat the the PR
attacks on him for his um sexual abuse charges and the overall reputation he'd
earned. And Chsky is just dismissing it all as some kind of fiction,
which is really disturbing. I believe his wife Valyriia referred to Epstein as a hero in another email.
Um, and I mean both both Chsky and his wife were really excited about going to they were
like really excited about going to uh Epstein's um uh properties. I think at
one stage Chsky described himself as how he was thinking hard about um visiting
one day. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what are your thoughts
uh on what what happened? I think we can't overlook the fact that Chomsky
while he was a harsh critic of Israel's government and and also did that you
know came in at a time when there were very few Jewish critics of Israel's government still had some kind of latent
sympathy for Zionism which enabled him to form this friendship with Ahoud Barack where they were traveling
together and friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and there was a certain kinship there uh obvious also Jeffrey Epste was
helping handle his finances when he was very old. And I believe based on what I've seen, I don't have any inside
knowledge that his wife was a factor and played a kind of malign role here, but I
mean what just Yeah. What are your thoughts on Chsky and how this impacts his legacy?
Well, I mean I think I mean there's part of me that's kind of glad that it came out while he's still alive. Um although I mean he's obviously, you know,
desperately um ill. Um I I mean the the the I do think that like some of his
communications with with um Epstein are like pretty bad. Like I I I mean that's
you know not necessarily to diminish um you know his his past but I mean when he
when he when he discusses um media strategy um with Epstein about you know
how to respond to the very real allegations that he is this sex sexual predator. And I might add, this is
another interesting angle that we didn't get into and I won't spend too much time on it, but I mean there are some email there are some emails where it's clear
that Epstein was like paying people to um completely gain Google searches. So
like references to his arrest and uh jail uh imprisonment didn't come up and
that his Wikipedia was completely cleansed of any references to it as well. Um and this was ongoing and he
spent a significant portion of money on this. But the point is is yeah he consult he seemed to have consulted Gnome in the kind of this is in the last
months of his life interestingly. So he was quite clearly obsessed with like you beating trying to redeem himself and you
know clear his name even though he was guilty of sin. And then Chomsky says, well, you know, I mean, there's a
hysteria that has developed about abuse of women. Um, which has reached the
point that even questioning a charge is a crime worse than murder, which is just like some reactionary [ __ ] that you
kind of comes from Bill O'Reilly or, you know, some kind of like farright figure. But it's like I I mean I I it strikes me
that Chsky is someone who does really enjoy like kind of, you know, speaking to as broad array of people as possible.
Um he uh Epstein did assist him with it seems that there was a family member who
was ripping off Nam Chomsky and not giving him his money out of his pension. Um and Epstein investigated this for him
and like you know I mean Chomsky is always keen on you know meeting um uh uh
people if he disagrees with them so he can talk. I mean he was you know very controversially although I respect the
fact that he did this. He he did actually, you know, uh spoke up for um Robert Forest on the who was this kind
of f this vile French Holocaust den. But Trump made the point that well he has a right of freedom of speech and he has
the right to use that freedom of speech to make himself look stupid and destroy his own credibility which I think is a
you know a a fair um principle. I might add that you know across Europe like
it's illegal to do that. Um, and he caught a lot of flack for that, but it was brave. You know, it was it was in
defense of free speech. Um, and so, you know, I I can imagine how he probably
got some kick out of meeting with Steve Bannon. You know, that doesn't mean that he's necessarily working with Steve
Bannon or for him. Um, he probably just saw as an opportunity to meet someone interesting and famous. Um, whose views
he didn't agree with. It's quite clear from some of the other communications as well that I mean uh he was challenging
some of the stuff that Epstein said um about you know the economy, finance,
politics etc. So I mean he wasn't this completely um uh what's the word um he
he he he he wasn't like um submissive to Epstein at all. Although I mean the fact that the
allegations against him or the charges against him even were like you know well known and a matter of um I mean this is
this is I think this this may well be as a result of you know Julie K. Brown's reporting for the Miami Herald which um
led the apparently led the DOJ to like reopen their case against him and let you know that led to his arrest and then
you know imprisonment and death but um yeah it's it is still quite bad. Um and
you know you would think you would you would hope that he has some uh uh statement forthcoming on this um because
it is quite strange. I also think as well that in one of his emails he me I've seen he mentions have I think he
might mention having investments in Israel like when they're talking about his like kind of monthly out maybe it's
like some donation or something but it's I I remember seeing a reference to Israel when he's discussing his finances. Um and you know um so that
that might be another you know rabbit hole to collapse down another point Max. Um but I I mean I I think in in some
like this is still you know a developing emerging story and it's been quite wild
watching this unfold in real time. I don't think it's actually contrary to my belief that this would blow over. I
don't think it's going anywhere. Um, and I think there's a kind of before and after with the with the Epstein
releases, uh, because we we've been confronted with the reality of who Western elites are. And it's, you know,
worse than, you know, Alex Jones ever told us. Um, you know, I mean, they they literally are a bunch of satanic
pedophiles. Um, who, you know, uh, have all sorts of, you know, cultlike
obsessions with young children. Um, not just not just for sex, but that's a big part of it.
[sighs] Well, I think Valyriia Chsky has some
splaining to do and she can speak. Nam Chosky is clinically unable to speak or
write. He was taken out of hospice a few months ago and is still alive, but
she's able to speak and isn't really saying anything. Um, but it's this is
something that's more interesting to people who've been in the left and been around the world of radical and
dissident politics is that is the fall from grace of Nam Chosky is much harder.
It's much more unpalatable than emails from figures who we knew to be morally
depraved or political sli or to be political slimes or ardent defenders of
the establishment or icons of the financial elite. Noom Chsky is someone
who attacked these elements throughout his career in a very articulate and
methodical way and also as you mentioned Kit during the for affair put himself
forward as an anarco syndicicalist free speech absolutist who really upset me
when in his late 80s I guess during the
the pandemic COVID event He called for the unvaccinated to be put in
concentration camps. I guess, you know, I joked in uh one of my standup bits that, you know, I guess he's so old that
he actually saw the fiddler on the roof play live on the roof. So, it's kind of understandable.
Um, and I made the obvious manufacturing of consent joke there. I was first to that. Um, go back and check the
I think you should start suing the people who are copying you, Max. I mean, I've se I've seen that mean a lot. manufacturing the age of consent. But um
yeah, but I mean it's such a it was such a betrayal of his reputation as a real
defender of human freedom. He he wrote a book on anarco syndicalism as the you
know the the the ultimate means to the fulfillment of human freedom and rights
and then you know by the end he was a branch covidian fascist medical fascist
and you know so was much of the institutional left. I mean, they were
celebrating the fulfillment of the pandemic plans that were put forward by Bill Gates and Epstein and the World
Economic Forum years before. And I wonder if the left today after all of this viewing all these files
and I I think they might actually understand differently
the the the lockdowns and the acceleration of the G great reset and
wouldn't be so dismissive of you know criticism of it after this whole saga of
just wallto-wall Epstein files, which is all anyone's talking about until Trump
bombs Iran on behalf of Israel, which might be coming soon and which is what
I'll discuss next. kid, if there's anything you want to
um I mean I was gonna I was I mean I was just gonna say on that last point that like I mean I I think that that was like
I mean I I I started my Spidey sense about Chsky started tingling a bit when he like openly came out in favor of like
the Arab Spring and saying it was like this wonderful like upsurge of people power when in reality you a series of
like you know big tech orchestrated coups that like you know brought brutal governments to power um as we've written
about in like a giant cut in a giant cuttery info op. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. But it's I
mean I think that when he that was really I thought I I thought either he's lost his marbles or you know so there's something deeper a foot here when he
when he made these co statements because on top of the fact it's just like horrendous thing to say. This was at a time when the C there were there were
doctors tied to the CIA who were openly talking about uh the how hospitals
should bounce people who haven't gotten vaccinated to the end of uh the queue for or the end of the line for US
viewers um for like operations um and and healthcare and stuff which was like
effectively you know endorsing people dying um you know from preventable
diseases because they hadn't they they had the temerity to not get vaccinated. Um I mean that was you know that was
like pretty bad but um yeah I mean it doesn't necessar it doesn't ne again it doesn't necessarily mean that he's you
know um on payroll um it just means that he's you maybe a bit over the hill but
um on that bombshell thanks so much for having me on Max it's been real um I think that was pretty decent as far as
impromptu discussions go yeah thanks a lot kit that was another tour divorce from kitclarenberg some are
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thanks for your your kind your kind comments and feedback, everyone watching. God bless you. Take care. Thank you, Kit.
All right. Yeah, someone's calling me crazy. The vaccine
was intended to save millions. Well, it didn't do it, did it? Wasn't
even a vaccine. A vaccine actually prevents infection and transmission. And uh I'm not allowed to say on YouTube
that that didn't because also what was brought with the
mandates and the lockdowns was massive online censorship like we've never seen before. an entire
industry of censorship. I mean, come on. How can anyone believe
that anymore? Or Operation Warp Speed. That wasn't
just a way of stripping the public of more
of our wages paid into taxes to just pay into
big tech and big pharma to create something that ultimately didn't work,
depriving thousands and thousands of people of jobs for not complying with something that wasn't working. And now
it's pretty clear that this was not just planned at John's Hopkins University
in a pandemic tabletop exercise in September 2019, but that Bill Gates was
putting it forward years before in his discussions with the Epstein class and
Bill Gates and other techfocused AI warlords
made billions because the economy was fully reoriented
through this great reset plan to benefit them. Their wealth surged
during the pandemic during the COVID event. So, if you're not questioning that at this point, you're not looking back with a critical eye, uh you're
pretty much doomed for the future. And uh you know I have I have some
just a thought that I've been having viewing this whole discussion about the
Epstein files that's raging on every social media site especially on Twitter
X where it's like all it's my entire timeline is that
people are ascribing the worst characteristics to the financial and political elite
that rule us um that have unprecedented power and wealth as they consolidate
a system of oligarchy, including that they are pedophiles. Like it's become more mainstream. It's not
just QAnon. It's become more mainstream to refer to them as a pedophile elite. But no one's doing anything
like nothing's happening in the real world. I'm not saying no one's doing
anything, but I mean,
what's going to happen? What will the consequence be for them? How will they be held accountable?
Or did everyone just get uh bought off by Jay-Z, as Jess Staley, former CEO of
Barclays, quipped in an email to Jeffrey Epstein?
That's a question I'll leave that disc that's the question with which I'll leave everyone as we move on to Iran
very quickly. I'm kind of going over time here, but uh
Jared Kushner and Steve Witoff, who hold no formal
position in the Trump administration, are negotiating through Oman's foreign ministry
in Oman with Abbas Arachi, the foreign minister of Iran down the hallway, I
think. Um Kushner shook hands with Aragchi in a sort of breach of protocol,
but they are exchanging notes through the Omani foreign ministry as they negotiate over Iran's nuclear file,
apparently over Iran's ballistic missiles. Here's some photos of Kushner and Steve
Witoff with the Omani foreign minister,
you know, raising a lot of questions.
And the whole reason this is happening is because Donald Trump has decided to threaten Iran with war because he's
being nudged by Israel, by Netanyahu, and by his largest donors, Miriam add,
Ron Lauder, a figure who's named constantly in the Epstein files as an associate of Epstein, who was part of
Netanyahu's mega group of millionaires and billionaires that would support his political fortunes from within the US
while pushing pro-Israel institutional activism across the West.
Um, this this is only happening because Israel is demanding that the US attack
Iran, which poses no threat to US national security. This is only happening because the US
instrumentalized protests to ferment riots alongside Israeli intelligence and
I would assume British intelligence which left thousands dead.
Two days of rioting from January 8th to January 9th. And as Wyatt Reed and I
detailed in an article at the Greyzone, the number the death toll has been
fabricated and concocted by sources close to the clown prince Resa
Palvi who incited those riots calling for Iranians to kill government workers and kill government media workers and
take over institutions. Trump called for Iranians to take over institutions. Uh
the sources monarchist sources are pushing this phony death toll of 30,000.
US media started reporting it in Time magazine. Then the Guardian began reporting it to sort of legitimize it
through the voice of the left liberal London intelligencia. And then EU
ministers followed by designating the IRGC as a terrorist organization to give
European a European green light to a US attack on Iran on behalf of Israel. and
it's being stalled through negotiations in Oman.
The idea that Iran would give up its ballistic missiles. Wait, wait a minute. Actually, let me uh make one quick point
about those protests. Scott Bent, the US Treasury Secretary for the second time
after saying this sim something similar in Davos has taken credit for the protests which mutated into very violent
deadly riots in Iran through the uh instrumentalization of sanctions or
financial terrorism against the Iranian economy. And this is his most blatant
confession yet. the Treasury and what we have do have done is created a dollar
shortage in the country. At a speech at the economic club of New York in March, I outlined the strategy. Uh it came to a
swift and I I would say grand culmination in December when one of the largest banks
in Iran went under. There was a run of the bank. The central bank had to print money. Uh the Iranian currency went into
freef fall. Inflation exploded. And watch the woman nodding behind him over here.
Currency went into freef fall. Inflation exploded and hence we have seen the Iranian people out on the street. We
will continue monitoring all the partners the all the Iranian partners.
Uh the good news senator is that we have seen and we can see it uh with our
fencing at Treasury. So, I mean, he admits it again that
sanctions were designed to destabilize Iran and drive riots. And he's taking credit for the riots. These were not
peaceful protests. This was a bridge between the 12-day war and the coming assault on Iran.
And in many ways, the riots themselves were a more devastating act of war on Iran than
uh Israeli assault an Israeli assault last June 2025 because it pits Iranians
against one another. It pits neighbor against neighbor through economic warfare, through desperation. And that's
what many Iranians are telling me is that this was much more psychologically
damaging because it's coming from within their own society. reminds me a lot of what uh took place
in Nicaragua in 2018 which the Nicaraguan government defeated.
But these negotiations are ongoing. Steve Witoff whose family is very close
to the Zionist movement. Steve Witco, who praised uh the former director of the Mossad at a fundraiser
for uh United Hut Salah, the Israeli pseudo rescue group, which hyped up a
lot of the October 7th hoaxes, is there with Jared Kushner, the presidential son-in-law, who's overseeing the Board
of Peace to transform Gaza into a series of high-tech, biometrically enforced concentration camps and data centers.
Jared Kushner literally was in bed with Netanyahu
or almost when he was a boy. His father Charles Kushner fraudster was pardoned
by Trump is now the ambassador to France. His father used to host Netanyahu when
Netanyahu was in town in New York and he was the opposition leader and Jared would be asked to give up his bed so
Netanyahu could stay over in his bedroom and I guess Jared would like sleep on the couch or somewhere else. So that's
how close Jared Kushner is to Israel. And these are the two figures negotiating on behalf of the US with
Iran. What is Iran being asked to do? They were being asked to give up some of their ballistic missiles, especially
their long range ballistic missiles at a time when they're introducing a new hypersonic missile which can reach
targets in Israel in less than five seconds. They're being asked to give up their deterrence just as Gaddafi gave up
his deterrence and was met with bayonets
in his backside by NATO backed death squads. Literally backed by NATO. The
Libyan Islamic Fighting Group was under NATO air cover when they beheaded
Gaddafi's guards and sodomized him with a bayonet. is Gaddafi's the price he paid for normalizing and giving up his
deterrence. The Syrian government struck a deal to
give up its chemical weapons. Well, there no there's there's almost no longer a Syria and they've been replaced
with a rebranded al-Qaeda government. What what reward will Iran get if it
gives up its ballistic missiles or it stops enriching uranium
and gives up on potentially becoming a breakout nuclear power?
It's it's pretty clear Iran will be destroyed as a country and bulcanized and they can't do that. They're not
going to do it. So I expect these negotiations to fail given how
compromised the US negotiators are, the real forces that they represent, the demands the US is making, and the
position that Iran has been placed in where after seeing what took place in
Venezuela, I think it's pretty clear that the only language that the US and Israel
understand is force. If you do not use force, they will come in and kidnap your
head of state or kill them and then take over your country.
And if uh Trump's operation in Venezuela had gone wrong and there was a Blackhawk
down incident, I don't think I don't think Donald Trump would even be attempting this in Iran.
But he was on uh some kind of psychological high after an operation in
which troops literally special forces literally marched into Caracus and picked up the
head of state and his wife as though they were catching an Uber. So Iran has to demonstrate strength here
and deploy real force. And the message they are sending is that if the US attacks attempts to
assassinate its leader, there will be a regional war and all of Iran's regional
cards, the popular mobilization forces in Iraq, the Yemeni and Sarah, they will
be put on the table and Iran has been conducting naval exercises in the straight of Hormuz, major economic choke
point. the global economy will suffer massively and will all be because Israel decided to activate Trump to carry out
this war. Donald Trump, who is referred to
in one of the most interesting recent Epstein files as having been co-opted by
Israel, according to FBI file 1023
and a confidential human source. And again, I think I know who that source is, but I can't confirm it because they
won't respond to me. Uh, that Trump has been co-opted by Israeli
influence networks with Jared Kush functioning as the central power broker during Trump's first term. The CHS
report comes from an FBI validated informant, giving it a higher credibility threshold.
Here it says, "Kushner is the real brains behind his organization and his
presidency." Um, there's also an interesting section
here. Habad is doing everything they can to co-opt the Trump presidency. Habad is basically state sanctioned Judaism.
Uh, on the day Trump was elected president, Ivanka Trump and Jared were at the grave
site of Rabbi Schneerson, who is the most p powerful rabbi in the Kabad network. Jared didn't disclose his stake
in Cadre because of its ties to the Russian state. CHS believed this was is
the real Russian collusion story. Kushner, it goes on, but yes, Jared
Kushner is heavily involved with Habad. I think Habad helped convert Ivanka to
Orthodox Judaism. Habad is a settler, a fascistic settler oriented
religious nationalist cult that believes that the late Rabbi Manakahim Schneerson may be the Messiah. And many Trump
affiliated figures and Trump administration cabinet level secretaries
are kabadnik. One of them besides
um Jared and Ivanka, you have Howard
Lutnik, the commerce secretary. Here they are.
They're paying tribute to Manakim Schneerson at his grave. Lutnik brought Trump to the grave. By
the way, who was Lutnik's neighbor in New York? It was Jeffrey Epstein. And Jeffrey Epstein and his buddy Les Wexner
from the mega group helped Howard Letic buy that townhouse.
And Lutnik's sons are involved in all kinds of shady business deals through Trump incorporated.
This is such a bizarre scene. So that confidential human source I think was really on to something.
It's Netanyahu who wants this war with Iran. It's Israel's military intelligence
apparatus and the US military is functioning as their
proxy in this case. So I expect war. I wouldn't be I
wouldn't be shocked if these negotiations fail and it and and a war with Iran would be
potentially devastating for the region, for the global economy. There's no
reason for it at all from an American point of view.
I mean, from the point of view of a realist American point of view,
very quickly, I wanted to touch on Venezuela. Um, I just heard from a friend who is at
a gathering of oil industry executives. I'll be reporting on this a little bit later. It was not an on there meeting,
and none of them are particularly interested in going into Venezuela. They consider it an unstable environment.
They were not pushing for this. It really was the Gusano industrial
complex based in South Florida that for ideological reasons wanted regime change in Venezuela,
wanted the operation that saw Maduro and his Nicholas Maduro, the president of Venezuela, the UN recognized president
and his wife Celia Flores kidnapped. And following that kidnapping, Donald
Trump and Secretary of Start State Marco Rubio, who is the deacto leader of the
Gusano industrial complex, announced that the new president, the acting president, Deli Rodriguez, would do
whatever they wanted. So there was no regime change. They just threatened Deli
Rodriguez and the Chavista movement and the Pesu party that controls the
government with another military invasion and possibly their own
assassinations if they did not pass a new hydrocarbon law invalidating the uh
reforms to the Pereza State Oil Company of Venezuela enacted by Ugo Chavez in
2007 and making it possible for the US to serve as a custodian of Venezuela's
oil profits in a private account in Qatar held outside the purview of the
American public. A very kind of Epstein-like arrangement
that's unregulated, corrupt, a slush fund.
But the Venezuelan leadership had very little choice here unless they wanted to go to war with the United States again.
and they're being promised some kind of sanctions relief. There will be revenue.
Deli Rodriguez was essentially forced to meet with CIA director John Ratcliffe,
who reportedly told her to eject the Russians, to start cancelling business
deals with Russian companies like Luke Oil and Ross Neft, which are involved in the Oronokco oil belt to cancel deals
with China around Belt and Road infrastructure, mining, etc.
to deal with the US exclusively at the point of a gun. Newsmax, which is a
ratchet right-wing quasi news propaganda network that
answers to the White House and is sponsored by the Israeli Foreign Ministry run by longtime
conservative hatchet man Chris Ruddy has sent a reporter to Caracus who may be the first to interview Deli Rodriguez.
This will not be journalism. It'll be an interview conducted at the point of a gun essentially literal information
warfare. So you have to kind of pity the position
that the Venezuelan leadership finds it in as they try to hold on
to the social programs and the communes
that they had established starting under Chavez and to be able to plow some of
the revenue that they're going to receive back into the social sector. That's something Deli Rodriguez has
announced she's going to do. But you also have to question what kind of leverage the US regime has over Deli
Rodriguez, which they're using to extract these kinds of major concessions. And one of them, of course,
is the threat of military interv invasion. But I actually think, and I'll
be reporting on this hopefully by tomorrow. My schedule's kind of tight.
Uh, but I have I've gathered some information on this. I think
there's a possibility that the US has a secret indictment of Deli Rodriguez and
it's the same thing the US has used to twist the arms of Latin American leaders
before her. Um, there was also uh Lenin Moreno, one of the biggest sellouts in
Latin American history, who was the vice president of Raphael Korea in Ecuador
when the pink tide tide was at its height, the sort of social democratic pink tide, who sold out Korea and then
helped participate in the jailing of Assange
uh as well as, you know, the jailing of Jorge Glass, the sellout of the entire
Cordista movement. They were what was being held over his heads his head were were um documents
demonstrating corruption known as the ENA papers. Corruption I think in the oil sector in Ecuador and it was
eventually released anyway in 2019 after he was leaving the stage. So you you
know they're always going to come out with it just like the indictment against Maduro which also names Diosado Cabo. So
that's they're using that indictment as leverage against an active minister in the Venezuelan government, Diosado
Caveo. There was a secret indictment of Julian Assange. Remember when Assange was in
the Ecuadorian embassy and James Ball from the Guardian, this former Wikileaks
mole comes out and says there's Julian Assange has nothing to fear. When Julian Assange was saying all along, there's a
secret indictment. There's a secret indictment. And they called him crazy.
They were the the secret indictment was authored and introduced in uh Northern
Virginia federal court the day after or the day that the CIA learned that Julian
Assange was planning to escape from the embassy uh to a third country.
So, secret indictments are something that the DOJ uses to extract and
concessions and control leaders probably around the globe. And I think we need to
question if there's one hanging over the head of Deli Rodriguez who helped
restructure Pereesa to beat sanctions. You know, when you hear, oh, the the
criminal Deli Rodriguez or the crimes of the Venezuelan state, the criminal Venezuelan state, you'll see that in all
of these State Department backed phony journalism groups like OC OCCP
and uh Armando Info, the crimes are just them circumventing
sanctions and the sanctions are the real crime. So you set them up with sanctions
and then when they try to circumvent them as Deli Rodriguez effectively and masterfully did actually growing
Venezuela's economy under massive sanctions through oil sales through a ghost fleet just like Iran has to have.
You have to have a ghost fleet of ships to get your oil out and then you sell it at bargain basement rates to countries
like China just to keep your country from collapsing under US sanctions. Then they accuse you of crimes because you're
cheating. But the real crime is the sanctions. And who authorized the sanctions? Nobody but the Treasury
Secretary. It's not like they go to the UN and uh you know go to the
the UN Security Council or they go to the UN General Assembly and ask for a vote on sanctions. That doesn't happen.
These are unilateral acts of financial terrorism. So now the CIA is coming back to Venezuela. They've announced that.
One of the things I think they're going to do is they're going to get their tentacles into Pereesa and look for ways
of building up allegations of dirt and crime to continue to to twist the arms
the Venezuelan leadership. There's all these rumors being spread that Alex Saab, who also helped circumvent
sanctions and helped create the clap program that kept Venezuelans fed under sanctions with often free food, free
meals. Uh there's rumors that he's been arrested. I've been told
by multiple sources that those rumors are false, but uh you know, who knows what could be
planned. And then the Maria Karina Machado
opposition, the radical opposition, which has uh been iced out by Trump for
now, is trying to organize protests and called for the student sector to come out and protest. So, they're trying to
create destabilization inside Venezuela uh to make it harder for this government
to even govern with the US twisting its arm, which is
interesting because uh the Maria Karina Machado opposition, the radical,
formerly State Department backed opposition is actually threatening its own relationship with Trump and Rubio
here. And why do I think there could be a secret indictment?
Well, here's one clue, but I'll introduce more later.
I don't like to telegraph punches, but you know, here we I'm here.
This is a quote from David Smild who they just say is a Tain University professor who studied Venezuela. But no,
this guy's like been consulting on regime change for a long time in addition to I think attacking the gray
zone because we got in their way. Just being a leader in a highly corrupted regime for over a decade. Remember it's
highly corrupted because they they don't play ball with they actually circumvent sanctions and that distorts your state.
makes it logical that she Deli Rodriguez is a priority target for investigation,
said David Smile, a Tulain University professor who has studied Venezuela for three decades. She surely knows this and
it gives the US government leverage over her. She may fear that if she does not do as the Trump administration demands,
she could end up with an indictment like Maduro. So,
pretty clear clue there. the DOJ, the Treasury Department, and the Pentagon
are teaming up to terrorize Venezuela, but they have not yet achieved regime
change. And so, it's something to keep an eye on, and we'll be reporting more here at the Greyzone. Um,
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Another Emergency Epstein Summit in Washington
Reason2Resist with Dimitri Lascaris
Feb 8, 2026

On February 7, one week after the Trump regime published more than 3 million pages of Epstein materials, the Netanyahu regime announced that Netanyahu would return to Washington for the sixth time since Trump returned to the White House in January of last year.

Ostensibly, the reason for Netanyahu's return to the United States is the ongoing 'negotiations' between the Trump regime and Iran, but there's plenty of evidence that Netanyahu and Trump have much more on their minds than the Islamic Republic.

Every day, new revelations from the Epstein files cause Israel's standing with American voters to sink even deeper. Meanwhile, Trump is staring at a crushing defeat in the upcoming mid-terms elections.

As Dimitri Lascaris and Rami Yahia explain in Reason2Resist's latest livestream, both Trump and Netanyahu are terrified by the Epstein files. The question is: how will they try to extract themselves from this public relations catastrophe?



Transcript

So with that, Ramy uh let's get started
on the announcement made by the Trump or
the Netanyahu regime that the war criminal will be coming to Washington
yet again. Uh this will be the sixth, I repeat, sixth trip to the United States
uh for Netanyahu since Trump returned to the White House less than 13 months ago. He's coming on an a on average once
every two months or so. I've never seen anything like it. It's off the charts.
Uh no other world leader has come to the US that often since Trump's inauguration
in January 2025. No one even comes close. And I doubt that there's been any world leader
even during the Second World War that came to the United States six times in
the space of a little more than one year. Uh so something's going on and we're going to try to delve into what
that is exactly. Um Trump and Netanyahu are scheduled to meet in Washington in three days time on Wednesday of this
week. Uh so why is the Israeli war criminal coming yet again? Uh Remy, if
you could pull up uh number one. This is the this is the line that is
being uh repeated by all Israeli media. Netanyahu is coming to address the US
Iran talks. uh and to tell Trump that it
is not enough to get a deal on nuclear enrichment. Any deal has to address
Iran's missiles and proxies. And what we're hearing is that the evil monster
is insisting that Iran effectively deprive itself of the ability to strike
Israel with uh ballistic conventional missiles or any missiles and that it cut
off all support for other resistance groups. And uh this is not just what you see up on the screen there is a report
from the Times of Israel, but this is the unanimous message of all of the Israeli media. When I checked this
morning, uh, Karet, we wet uh, and the Jerusalem Post in addition to the Times
of Israel, they were all repeating that mantra. This is about the negotiations with Iran and, uh, Netanyahu's
insistence that all three of those issues be on the table. Demetri,
do do you feel like because uh Trump spoke about um reducing um Iran's
nuclear ball, sorry, Iran's ballistic missiles to under 300 kilometers. Do you feel like this is an endorsement that
Iran actually made extensive damage to Israel during the 12-day war and that
Iran in some way is an ex existential threat to Israel? Uh well whether they understand I think
Iran is an existential threat to that tiny pipsqueak of a genocidal country but um I think you're absolutely right
uh Ramy that um the insistence that Iran uh basically neuter itself from a
missile perspective does show that they are very very concerned as does the fact uh that they
have not yet attacked Iran. They are extremely concerned about Iran's ballistic missile capability obviously.
Uh and um I think the Iranians quite properly are saying that's the only
thing that's protecting us right now. So if we give up the ability to strike the genocidal pipsqueak and um you know and
American military bases that are more than 300 kilometers from Iran um then we will have no effective deterrent and
then we're going to go the way of the dodo bird. they're going to destroy us the way they've destroyed Syria and try
to dismember us. We'll come back to that, but that's a very important uh point, Ramy. This is proof of how much
they fear uh Iran's ballistic missiles. Now, um the prime minister's office
said, quote, "The prime minister believes that any negotiations must include restrictions on ballistic
missiles and an end to support for the Iranian access." And um I'm going to
comment um on the negotiating positions of the parties later on, but I just want
to note that um Iran has said very clearly that it is not going to put
ballistic missiles on the negotiating table. That's not touchable. Its support for the axis of resistance is not
touchable. It has been consistent in that regard. And it's also said that it will not terminate its nuclear
enrichment program. uh at the most it will accept uh significant limits on the
degree to which it it will enrich uranium but it already did that did that under the JCPOA. It agreed to a level of
something like 3.67% of enrichment which is marginally below the level needed for
a civilian nuclear program which is about 5%. And far below
you uh uranium. So, uh, and what happened,
Trump tore up the deal during his first administration, even though the IAEA
certified that Iran was complying with the deal. Um, so again, we'll come back to the negotiating positions uh later
on. Um, I have no doubt, I want to say at the outset as I explain what I think
is going on here, that Netanyahu and Trump will in fact talk about Iran on Wednesday. I have no doubt about that.
Um, Iran might even be the main topic of their discussions, but for reasons I'm
about to explain, I think that there's going to be at least one other topic on the table, and they don't want us to
know that that topic is preoccupying them. And of course, I'm referring here to the Epstein Files.
Now, to explain to you why I think the Epstein files will be near the top of their agenda, if not at the top of their
agenda, I'd like to revisit with you all what happened in late 2025, just a
couple of months ago. So on November 19th, 2025, Trump signed into law the
Epstein Files Transparency Act after it became apparent to him that he could not
stop Congress from adopting the legislation and he could not uh overcome or that Congress would effectively
overcome any veto that he applied because there was almost unanimous support for this legislation in
Congress. So he signs it into law on November 19th. By the way, I did a report about a week after that which
talked about the um the defects in this law. Um so for example, it allows
documents to be withheld or redacted for national security reasons. That's a big one. Uh you can imagine them saying,
well, anything that compromises our ability to defend Israel is a national security issue. Therefore, we're going
to withhold information relating to Israel. Um they also uh Massie, Thomas
Massie, Roana and the others who pushed this legislation allowed the legislation
to contain a loophole for documents that are withheld because disclosing them might um prejudice an ongoing
investigation by the DOJ. This was ridiculous because Trump was saying that there's no basis to investigate anybody
uh at this stage. it was all uh you know Epstein who they say is dead and Gileain
Maxwell who's already in prison so there's nothing to investigate so why would they have an exception for ongoing
investigations and but probably the worst defect in this law was that it did
not specify a penalty for uh non-compliance so it didn't say that you
know if the Trump administration doesn't comply then it will be held in contempt of Congress or that there will be
potential jail time for those who violate the law that there will be massive fines. It
didn't lay out any kind of procedure for pursuing or imposing a penalty for non-compliance.
This is a very weak law. And although, you know, I do commend Thomas Massie and Roana for doing at least that much. We
should stop talking about this law as though it was some kind of panacea. In my opinion, what this was designed to do
was basically to calm the mob. And I'm a member of that mob. the mob that is demanding accountability. So, I think
this is a way for them to drip feed information to us until all the pers are basically dead and uh and to withhold
the most damning information. Uh the you know, the Democrats uh they they have
the ability on the oversight committee to put out a much much more information than they have. They've only put out a fraction of the information that they're
able to put out. When they were in power, they did nothing. Absolutely nothing. even when they had a majority
in Congress and the Senate to release this information. So, the cover up is bipartisan and I think this legislation
is more cosmetics than a real um effort to in to impose accountability, but it's
something it's something. In any case, it gets signed into law November 19th
and the law specified that the legislation or that the Trump regime was required to release the Epstein files,
all of them except those that were within the exceptions that I cited,
national security and ongoing investigations by December 21st. Okay,
it's about 30 days. So on November 19th, it was known at that moment that the
Trump regime would have to disclose the Epstein files by December 21st. What happens on December 12th, about 3 weeks
after Trump signed the new law, Netanyahu's office announced that Netanyahu would come to Washington near
the end of December for the fifth visit since Trump returned to the White House. The fifth visit in less than a year.
Then on December 20th, the day before the Department of Justice was required
to release the Epstein files and did release some of them, NBC News reported
that when Trump would come to the US at the end of December, he planned to brief
uh when Netanyahu, I'm sorry, would come to the US at the end of December, he planned to brief Trump on Israeli plans
to strike Iran. Uh so if you could pull up image two Ramy we'll see there uh the
headline of this big article and you can see uh in the section I've highlighted
it says this. Israeli officials have grown increasingly concerned that Iran is expanding production of its ballistic
missile program, which was damaged by Israeli military strikes earlier this year, and are preparing to brief
President Donald Trump about options for attacking it again, according to a person with direct knowledge of the
plans. And four former US officials briefed on the plans. So, that tells you
right there that this is um a SCOP. This isn't one person, you
know, deciding they're going to leak information for reasons of conscience. There there's coordination going on here
between uh unnamed officials to convince the public that the reason why Netanyahu
is going to come to uh the United States at the end of December is exclusively
because no other reason is mentioned to talk about Israeli plans to attack Iran.
Okay. So you you can remove that Ramy. Thank you very much. Before we do that, um there's a Steve
Bannon email to Jeffrey Epstein because again we've been really deep into these Epstein files over the last
week or so. And one of them is uh an email from Epstein asking Bannon, how do
you keep control of a population when it's about to revolt? And uh uh Bannon
responds by saying starting a war somewhere else like invading another country is a great way of keeping your
population in check because it keeps everyone focused into this new issue. So I feel like in some way this whole Iran
debacle happening at the same time as the Epstein files is kind of proving exactly what Steve Bannon was referring
to. Absolutely. And it's more than Iran which I'm going to I'm going to discuss in just a second. But you're absolutely
right and and indeed this is uh rebellion caliber material. This is what
we're talking. This is the type of thing that topples governments and heads of states and even causes some particularly
iate citizens, the peasants to pull out the pitchforks. So let's uh let's then
continue with what happens next. So on the 20th this these you know five
officials all of them unnamed go to the corporate media in the US and say oh
he's coming to talk about plans to strike Iran. The next day comes the
first dump of Epstein documents under the Epstein Files Transparency Act. And
um from that moment, from the moment that I remember this very clearly and I
was very gratified to see this, the Epstein files scandal dominated the news
cycle right up until the end of December. Like if you looked at the corporate media and particularly the alternative media, this was the number
one subject. And people were coming up with all sorts of stinking, smelling, vile dirt about Epstein and all of these
psychopathic billionaires who frequented his dens of depravity. And then Netanyahu arrives in Washington
at the very end of December of December. Uh so by that point in time I think it's
fair to say that you know Trump and Netanyahu and and not just them but the people around them and the neocons and
the billionaire class were all deeply concerned about the public's preoccupation with the information that
was released on December 21st. So the files showed us amongst many other things that Trump and Israel both
had deeper connections to Epstein than many of us had understood. Um, and I
want to just remind people about what I was saying during that week after this story appeared in NBC News about why
Netanyahu was coming uh to Washington again. My interpretation of these events
was that that was a planted story to distract people from the primary purpose
or at least one of the main purposes of Netanyahu coming to Washington, which was to talk about the Epstein scandal
because it's a given. It's just a given that every time Netanyahu and Trump get
together, they're talking about, you know, somehow attacking Iran. They're obsessed with Iran. Iran is the key to
uh resistance uh to western hegemony in this very important region of the world.
So they are absolutely fanatically determined to destroy Iran. And uh it's
not news. It's not some kind of you know uh scoop or breaking story to tell us
that when Netanyahu meets with Trump, they're going to be talking about Iran.
This is you should assume they always talk about Iran when they get together. Okay, this has been a pre this has been
an obsession with Netanyahu going back decades. So, uh why were they planting this story
then? I believed, and I said this at the time, it was a distraction that because
what was really happening was that Netanyahu was panicking about the Epstein files and uh and he wanted to
talk to Donald about stopping the uh catastrophe from getting any worse, the
public relations catastrophe, and find ways of, you know, distracting people from what those uh that document dump
revealed about Israel and Epstein. So, um, I talked about this, by the way, not
only on this show several times. I also talked about this on other programs when I was interviewed, including the Jamal
Thomas show. And, uh, as far as I know, no one else in the alternative media was
arguing that a major reason for Netanyahu's fifth visit to Washington at the end of December was likely to be um,
some kind of, you know, hatching of a plan to deal with the scandal, the burgeoning Epstein scandal. Um, so
almost immediately after Netanyahu met with Trump in late December,
both corporate and alternative media outlets stopped focusing on Epstein, uh, what happened. First of all, riots
erupted in Iran and we know from statements by former CIA director and the Mossad itself that Mossad agents
were involved in in important ways in those riots. Uh, that's not to say that
there weren't legitimate grievances. It's not to say that they started the protest. Although Scott Bessett, the US
Treasury SE secret secretary, has said straight up that uh we uh engineered a
sharp decline in the Iranian currency for the purpose of provoking protests
and it worked. He's now said this twice, at least twice publicly. So, uh I I'm
I'm pretty sure that they were talking about that too when they met at the end of December. Uh but there was much more
stuff going on. There was uh the uh kidnapping on January 3rd, something
like two or three days after Netanyahu and Trump met of President Nicholas Maduro uh from Karakus, which was a
criminal violation of the most fundamental precepts of the UN charter, but it didn't actually uh result in a
change in government. Maybe, you know, Deli Rodriguez, and I've been talking about this uh in my reporting for
Venezuela over the last week, you know, is going to be somewhat more cooperative than Nicholas Maduro. Uh but uh until
now, there are plenty of indications that she's going to continue and the people around her who are all from
Nicholas Maduro's government uh are going to continue to try their best to protect uh the sovereignty of Venezuela.
Uh so uh there was that distraction and then on top of all this in the leadup to
the World Economic Forum in Davos uh on January from January 19th to 23rd, Trump
was flapping his gums and spewing hot air on an almost daily basis about how the United States was going to take
Greenland. Remember that? And so Trump goes to Davos after, you know,
intimating that maybe the US would use even military force and threatening to impose sanctions on Europe, you know,
crushing sanctions if it didn't allow uh the United States to effectively confiscate Greenland. He goes to Davos
and he, you know, he folds up like a cheap suit and he says, uh, well, no,
I'm not going to use military force and, uh, you know, I'm not going to impose sanctions. I'm not going to use tariffs
to try to do this. Well, but we're going to find a way. Now, I'm not suggesting that Trump doesn't really genuinely want
to take control of Greenland. I believe he does. Uh, and I'm not suggesting he
doesn't really want regime change in Venezuela. I believe he does. Uh, nor am I suggesting that all of the military
assets he sent uh to the region after he met with Netanyahu, that was another thing that dominated the public
discourse, that they aren't ultimately going to be used to attack Iran. and they may well be used to attack Iran.
But so far, what we've seen during the month of January was a lot of hot air.
It was a lot of hot air. Uh you know, the Iranian government is still firmly in place. The Shaveista government is
still firmly in place. There hasn't been a bombing of Iran and Trump has uh
folded up like a cheap suit on Greenland. But all of this, you know,
posturing worked. It worked to distract people from the Epstein scandal which as
I've said in other contexts in my opinion is the most important scandal of our time. Uh now uh
go ahead Remy just a little question here is that couldn't the Americans or sorry the
United States find an easier way to distract us from the exiting files such as not releasing the files at all?
Well then they they would have no argument that they're complying with the law. I don't think I think Netanyahu believed
when Trump came to the White House that none of those documents would ever see the light of day. But what happened was,
you know, there was so much pressure on Congress, uh, you know, because they they what happened, I mean, if let's
let's replay this during the presidential campaign and even before the presidential campaign in 2024, in
order to win the votes of all the Americans out there, Democrats, Republicans, independents,
uh, you know, who were outraged by what we knew about Epstein and his billionaire psychopathic friends. Um the
pressure caused people in Congress to say, "We're going to have to do something. We're going to have to give them something." And this led ultimately
to the adoption of this law. Remember that Trump was eviscerating any Republican, including in particular
Marjgerie Taylor Green. And I have to say, I admire her stand on this particular issue. Um eviscerating
anybody who said that they were going to go on board with that law. But when it suddenly at the 11th hour became apparent that his threats weren't
working and I think there was like one Republican who was saying he was going to oppose this thing and he wouldn't be
able you know he even even if he vetoed the legislation they were going to be able to overcome the veto because they
can do that with twothirds of the support of Congress. So at the 11th hour Trump caved because he knew he couldn't
stop the law and he wanted to seem like he actually supported the law. So, I think that this was not what Netanyahu
and Trump imagined that this law would be forced upon them and then they were going to have to release at least uh
some of the documents to um uh to convince uh the public that they were
coming clean. Okay. So, this is this is the the the plan went ary and I think their plan was no disclosure. No
disclosure. Remember what happened? How people were upset when Pam Bondi said, "Oh, there is no list of clients after
all." and Bonino and Cash Patel. There's nothing to see here, folks. Move on. This was completely contrary to what all
these characters were saying in the run-up to the 2024 election. Uh so it
all went arry for them. And uh so this is how we now find ourselves where we
currently are. So to close out my sort of recounting of how this has unfolded,
we come to uh January 21st. you know, the first dump of documents was a small
fraction of the documents that were supposed to be released and uh a lot of those were heavily redacted. Uh so on
January uh 21st uh the I'm sorry not January 21st,
January 30th, this is about a week after Davos, uh the Department of Justice releases 3
million plus pages of highly uh
disturbing, shocking and incriminating uh documents from the Epstein files. A
lot of it is kind of insignificant but now but there is a tremendous amount of
extremely compromising material in there and we are only beginning to process it all. We're going to talk to you about
some stuff that Ramy is working on uh uh some really interesting uh discoveries
that he's made. We're not going to get into the nitty-gritty of it, but uh we ourselves here and a lot of people, a
lot of people in independent media, a lot of just ordinary citizen journalists, interested uh members of
the public are themselves finding uh damning material every single day. And
there's a lot more to come, I'm sure. So, on January 30th, we get this dump and all of a sudden, we're back to where
we were on December 21st, which is that the Epstein scandal is dominating the news cycle. Now it's the number one
story. Nobody is talking or few people are talking about Venezuela. Few people are talking about Greenland if anybody.
Uh even Iran has kind of taken second place. It is the number one story. And then um
uh we get to the announcement that Netanyahu is returning to Washington for
his sixth visit. Now, uh I just want to before I go on highlight for you why I
think the January 30th disclosure is freaking out uh the Netanyahu regime.
And if you can pull up uh document number three, Ramy,
this is a uh one of the documents that was released. It is a uh a a CHS
reporting document generated by the FBI. Uh CHS means confidential human source.
This is from October 19th, 2020. Okay, we don't know who the source is.
The name has been uh redacted or withheld and uh the case agent's name has been redacted there as well. Um but
the source says amongst other things this Harvard law professor Alan Dersowitz
uh he he's talking about CHS the confidential human source learned that Durowitz influenced many students from
wealthy families for example Josh uh Kushner and Jared Kushner uh were both
his students. Dersuit told confidential human source. So the source it says
Duruit said this to him directly that if he were young again he would be holding a stun gun as an Israeli intelligence
Mossad agent. CHS believed Dur Dersowitz was co-opted by Mossad and subscribed to
their mission. CHS still continues to communicate occasionally for uh
Dersowitz. And then uh underneath Jeffrey Epstein was represented by Dersowitz. CHS
remember Dersowitz tell Alex Aosta US attorney southern district of Florida at
the time that Epstein belonged to both US and allied intelligence services. CHS
shared phone calls between Dersowitz and Epstein during which he she took notes.
After those calls, Mossad would then call Dersawitz to debrief. Epstein was close to the former prime minister of
Israel, Ehud Barak, and trained as a spy under him.
And this is the Israeli prime minister who has, you know, we now know, stayed repeatedly and sometimes for extended
periods and sometimes with his wife at Epstein's demonic New York mansion.
And the report goes on, says Barack believed Netanyahu was a criminal. Saudi Arabia, Israel, and the UAE are allied
against Qatar, Turkey, Iran, and Syria. One of CHS's blank, who presumably
worked blank, asked CHS a lot of questions about Epstein. CHS became convinced that Epstein was a co-opted
Mossad agent. See previous reporting. See previous reporting. So, there's more
of this information coming to the FBI. That's just one piece of the information that they have been given about uh
Epstein being a Mossad agent. Uh and remember this is a man whom even the US
government acknowledges uh sexually abused over 1,200
young females. Over,200 that's what they say. Some of them as young as 11. And by
the way I think that number is probably a gross understatement. uh and almost certainly many of those uh minors were
abused by Epstein associates. And um uh I also think that the age is probably uh
being generous to Epstein. I there's evidence we're encountering that some of these victims were much less than 11
years old and there are even reports as horrifying as it is that there were babies that were abused. This is some of
the stuff that's emerging from this material. So, you don't want to be associated with this man. If you are the
Israeli government, you want to distance yourself as much as possible from this radioactive psychopath.
So, what happens, you know, about uh a week or a few days after the uh January
30th document dumped by the DOJ, Netanyahu announces that he's rushing to Washington yet again. So, I say to you
folks, there's a little bit of a pattern here. I I believe Netanyahu and Israel are freaking out. the Israeli political
and military elite. Uh as a result of their live stream genocide in Gaza and for a host of other reasons, Israel and
the US are now both global lepers. It's gotten so bad uh that the US and Israeli
athletes got booed on Friday at the opening ceremony of the Winter Olympics.
You know, I've been watching Olympics uh I don't haven't watched them in the recent past because I'm sick of them now. I can no longer stand them, but uh
you know, when I was a kid, I watched a lot. I don't remember athletes from any particular country getting booed, particularly the United States. Uh it's
it's getting pretty hostile out there for the genocidal entity and its western backers. And uh and by the way, just
before this live stream started, I I happened to be watching over lunch a report by Jeanta, an excellent
independent journalist who uh played video of four uh prominent US athletes,
each giving interviews in which uh I think it was yesterday or the day before they expressed um shame really at uh
what the United States is doing and um and tried very very hard to distance themselves uh from the criminality of
the US government both at home and abroad. Uh so the public relations situation for both Netanyahu and Trump
has become dire and for um both of them there are upcoming elections you know in
both Israel and the United States. They're going to be midterms later this year. Uh the the Netanyahu regime I
understand needs to go to the polls uh before the end of this year. Uh so they're very very concerned about where
uh all of this is heading. And I think the most rational inference
um is that uh they are panicking and they're going to be talking about what to do about it uh when they meet in 3
days time. Now if you don't believe me or you have skepticism about um you know
whether Netanyahu himself is panicking, I I think you need only look at his own
statements. and uh he put out a tweet two days ago in which he went out of his
way to distance Israel from Jeffrey Epstein and he said Jeffrey Epstein's unusual close relationship with Ahwood
Barak doesn't suggest Epstein worked for Israel it proves the opposite stuck on his election loss from over two decades
ago Barak has been has for years obsessively attempted to undermine Israeli democracy
as if Netanyahu is the guardian of Israeli democracy. Uh, and he goes on says, "By working with the anti-ionist
radical left." Yeah. Yeah. He's pro Palestinian Barak. Sure. Uh, the war criminal, the bloodthirsty savage who
has the blood of countless Palestinians on his hands. Uh, and he says that he attempted to overthrow Barak, the
elected Israeli government. But AK's personal fixation led him to engage in activities publicly and behind the
scenes to undermine the government of Israel, including fueling mass protest movements, fermenting unrest, and feeding false media narratives. What a
pile of stinking Um, and you know, the idea or any suggestion that
Barak was no longer working in or for the state of Israel and its intelligence
agencies after he ceased to be, uh, a minister in the government is laughable.
Uh, you know, I think history has shown that, uh, you know, uh, membership in
the genocidal Israeli regime is kind of like Hotel California. uh you can check
out but you can never leave. I don't believe for one second that Badak stopped working in some way for the
state of Israel and uh its intelligence agencies when he ceased formally to be a minister in uh the government of Israel.
But uh whatever you may think of Barak, the problem with this argument that Netanyahu is making is that it's not
just Epstein's relationship with Barak, which uh strongly suggests, if not
outright proves that Epstein was working for Israeli intelligence. There's a lot more than that. Um, this pathetic
attempt to distance Israel from Epstein omitted to mention that uh, Israeli spy
Yoni Corin stayed at Epstein's New York mansion repeatedly and for extended
periods. Uh, and we know this due to some wonderful reporting uh, by Drop Site News. You can see here an article
they published, I believe it was in November of last year. Uh, and they wrote, "An Israeli military intelligence
officer stayed at Epstein's Manhattan apartment. It's not an apartment. It's a massive mansion, as we covered in a
report we published yesterday, uh, with, you know, pictures of naked, uh, minor
females all over the place. Uh, and he stayed there, this, uh, spy, on at least three occasions, including once in
February 2013 while working as a senior aid to then Israeli Minister of Defense, Ehud Barak." So uh and and it goes on
and talks about other uh ways in which uh Yoni Corin uh was uh involved with uh
of Epstein. And on top of that, I'll just point out one other fact. There is
um the revelation. Sorry, I don't think that's the one we're looking for.
this revelation. Ramy, could you just uh pull up number seven, please? I think we're There we go. Thank you. Um, this
is a December 10th, 2014 email from Epstein to Melania or Melanie Spanella
and he wrote, "Grats charity Herzog Ahood coming to island this weekend.
Come plane three issue." I don't know what the hell that means, but in any event, uh, this is very
likely a reference to none other than the war criminal Isaac Hersog, the current president of Israel. He appears
to have gone to Epstein Island, again, a den of depravity in 2014.
So uh this is just just scraping the surface of the evidence which shows that
uh Epstein was working with Israeli intelligence and was in some way working in and for uh the state of Israel. So,
uh, Netanyahu and company have a huge uphill battle from a public rel relations perspective if they're going
to try to persuade people that Epstein was not somehow working uh with or for
the MSAD. So, yeah, for all of those reasons, folks, I'm highly confident that the Epstein files will be high on
the agenda when Netanyahu meets with Trump on Wednesday. Uh, the most important question for us is what can we
expect to emerge from that meeting? And uh based on what happened after the last
time they met during um heightened attention to the Epstein scandal, we
have reason to be very concerned. Uh I think they are going to talk about doing
all kinds of dastardly evil to bury the story yet again. Uh and of course
one uh way they might do that is by finally launching their much cherished
war on Iran again. uh with untold consequences for us all.
But I also wouldn't rule out something else, something even uh more surprising,
less expected. Uh and I'm not saying this is going to happen. Uh I don't I
don't have any evidence to suggest that it will, but I'm just throwing this out there as one way they might try to deal with the public relations crisis that
they're in, and that is a false flag. I wouldn't even rule out the possibility that some crazy happens at the
Super Bowl tonight, but again, I'm not saying that's going to happen. Uh, I don't have any evidence to suggest it's
going to happen. I'm just saying that this is the way these people think. I've seen some reports in the last few days
that some Israeli was arrested in California. There are allegations that he was operating a bolab. He's been
charged with uh firearms offenses. Uh, I don't know what that's all about and I
haven't had time to really investigate it, but um, keep your eyes open because I think we're we're we're looking at uh,
a very tumultuous uh, several weeks ahead as these two try to bury uh, the
evidence uh, of their involvement with Epstein. So, finally uh, I want to talk
about Iran's negotiating position. Um, let's recall that Israel is the only
state in West Asia that has nukes. Uh, it's the only state that is not a party to the non-uclear proliferation treaty
or the nuclear non-prololiferation treaty and uh it doesn't undergo and never has independent inspections of its
nuclear facilities. Uh so for it to be demanding that Iran
uh deprive itself of the ability to enrich uranium, which Israel does to
weapons grade, uh is outrageous. It's outrageous that the media keeps
repeating uncritically the demands of Israel, the purported concerns of Israel and the United States over Iran's
nuclear program without mentioning Israel's nukes. If we should be concerned about anybody's nukes or
nuclear program, it should be Israel because after the way this psychopathic entity has behaved, particularly during
the last two plus years of genocide, um there's every prospect that these people
would use nuclear weapons. In fact, they're the most likely candidate to use nuclear weapons against a state that
hasn't attacked them. So uh how can it be right that they are trying to deprive
Iran of the ability even to enrich uranium for civilian purposes
when Israel enriches to the level of weaponsgrade uranium and has nukes and
is committing genocide. uh and if the Iranians actually uh
complied with the demands including the uh you know the emasculation of their
conventional ballistic missile program uh or if for any reason the current
government of Iran were to fall uh I think we should anticipate that what they're going to do is they're going to
destroy the country if they can actually bomb the be Jesus out of Iran demolish
its essential infrastructure demolish its military capacity to defend itself
uh and do that with little uh risk of harm to themselves. They'll do it just as they did in Syria after Assad fell.
Uh they went hog wild in bombing and occupying even more territory in Syria. Their goal is to destroy not just regime
change. Their goal is to destroy and dismember Iran so that whoever comes to power in the future, it will not be able
to resist Israeli American hijgemony over the region. And so all those people out there who are being critical of the
Iranian government and hoping and wishing that it falls, my message to you is this that whatever you may think
about it and however justified your criticisms of it may be, the only thing
right now that is standing in the way of the destruction of Iran as a viable
state is that government. That's it. You may not like that. You may wish it
weren't true, but that's the reality. And so, if you care about the people of Iran and you care about the sovereignty
of Iran at this particular moment, you shouldn't be out there cheerleading for this government to fall because who's
going to defend Iran if that happens? Is it going to be the son of the Shaw? Really, that corrupt little twerp is
going to defend Iranian sovereignty from the Americans and the Israelis? Uh, I don't think so. Uh, and in light of all
this, you know, Ramy, I'm curious your thoughts about this. I I wonder why Iran
even bothers. I have some theories about this, but why is Iran even bothering to talk to these shyer, you know,
criminals, these genocidal lunatics, uh, Steve Witoff and Jared Kushner, who know
absolutely nothing about Iran. They know next to nothing about the region. They are con artists who at least witoff
before Kushner entered the Iran negotiations he tried to lull Iran into a false sense of security while Israel
was preparing to attack it. So I often I've been wondering a lot about why they
even bother talking to these criminals and I'm just I I have theory about this but I'm curious Remy do you have a theory about this? Well, I think there's
a very clear pattern between the resistance in Gaza negotiating with
Israel and the United States for the so-called ceasefire as well with Russia
that has been part of thousands of rounds of negotiations with Ukraine for
to put an end to this uh to this war in Ukraine and as well as Iran which is I mean sometimes I also ask myself this
question it's absurd to even negotiate with the United States knowing the track record that they have but I think that
the reality is that Russia, Hamas, the resistance in Gaza, as well
as Iran need to show openness to the people back home that they're doing all
their efforts they can to bring an end to the war. And I think not everyone is
is knowledgeable within these countries, right, about the reality of how geopolitics works. But the reality is
that they need to entertain all avenues to then say we've exhausted all efforts. This is the last opportunity available
to us. Because sometimes I ask myself the same question about Gazam. Why is the resistance participating in these in
these negotiations for ceasefire? We see Israel violating every single measure in the ceasefire yet we're still invested
in it. Same thing for Russia. Russia two months into this uh into the special miss operation to this war signed an
agreement to put an end. They withdrew from Kkefe. They withdrew from many of these territories only to see Ukraine
and NATO not participate. But the reality is that in in some ways Russia
and Palestine are much more democratic countries. These governments need to win the support of their people every single
day. The United States not so much, Israel not so much. They just to win the support of the elite. Hence why I think
we are in a bit of a different situation and we need to sit down at the table and negotiate with the United States all
while understanding that these are basically Trojan horses meant to open
the door while we manufacture consent in the West while my fellow colleagues in
Canada are participating in legitimizing the invasion of Iran. Right? This whole part of negotiation is meant to create
this charade that we've done everything that we can to negotiate with Iran and now the next step is to invade. But
uh I mean I I think the the the the onus is on us.
I agree. I think this very likely um Iran is trying in good faith to have a
discussion with them within reasonable limits because that's what a lot of people in Iran want. They want them to
make an effort. I think probably Russian and Chinese governments want to see the Iranians at least make an effort. Uh I
think the Iranians themselves want people in the broader world to see that they're reasonable people. Um and
another thing that might be going on here, Ramy, is that they are trying to buy time because they need more time to def to prepare for an attack. You know,
they've got people perhaps being trained on new air defense systems. Maybe they have new missile systems that they have
to work out. uh you know they've there have been reports that they got advanced Russian fighter jets and their pilots
may be training. So it may be uh that uh every day that passes is a day that they
become uh stronger in their ability to defend themselves from these monsters. So uh there are a number of legitimate
reasons why they might be doing that. Uh, one thing I will say sort of in as in passing, um, I I I think I have to
say I have a lot of courage for the I have a lot of admiration for the courage of this uh, Iranian foreign minister
because, uh, he's going out there, uh, into the broader world and is, I think,
making a pretty good case for Iran. He's he's soft-spoken. He speaks English well. He's uh, an elegantly attired man.
He seems reasonable. Um he's the kind of spokesperson that the Americans and the
Israelis don't want, you know, any resistance group or any state that resists US hijgemony to have. And these
these mofos are perfectly capable of killing this man. And if they decide they want to go down that path and have
another war, I think he's going to be uh at or near the top of their target list. Uh and uh I uh
uh I doubt I I doubt very much that he doesn't understand that. I think he probably does understand that. and yet he continues to go out into the world uh
in situations where he's leaving himself vulnerable to some assassination attempt and uh to do the best that he can to
represent his country. Uh so uh we'll have to see how that all unfolds. The
last thing I wanted to share on this subject of why Netanyahu
uh went to or is coming again to Washington is this little tidbit, this little report that sneaked into the
Israeli media uh today. An Israeli court cancels Netanyahu trial hearings ahead
of White House visit. Uh so what happened was the judges presiding over
Netanyahu's corruption trial approved his request to cancel hearings scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday following his
announcement that he will travel to Washington. So the criminal, the mafioso
uh managed to get a further delay in the hearing of his corruption trial by simply by saying, "Hey, guess what? I'm
going back to Washington." And so I'm sure that that also was a little bit of a factor.

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Epstein Death Date Stated PRIOR To Death!
Sabby Sabs
Premiered Feb 9, 2026



Transcript

[music] We have a bombshell revelation
from the Epstein Files. You guys know we
have been following this very closely
and every day it seems like there's
something else that is announced or
released. And this one is probably the
most damning expose of all if I had to
pick one.
We had a lot of questions surrounding
the death of Jeffrey Epstein. And this
drafted statement from the US Attorney's
Office really does confirm what many of
you have believed for a long, long time.
This one is the one that is really
making people go, "Holy crap. This is
why they didn't want these files
released." Obviously, of course, to
protect powerful people, but not just
that, also to protect what actually
happened to Jeffrey Epstein that night
in that cell. It is this release here,
and it was K uh Clint Russell uh from
Liberty Lock Pod who shared it. He was
the first one that I saw that shared
this. And I double checked the files as
well, and I can assure you it is there.
Couldn't believe this was real. So, I
double checked the DOJ site. It's real.
US Attorney Burman announced Epstein's
death with letterhead dated the day
before he was found dead. It gets
weirder. Bill Bar announced Burman's
resignation less than a year later.
Burman denied he was resigning and was
then removed by Bar on June 20th of
2020. Trump denied any involvement,
but it was confirmed by later reporting
that in fact it was Trump who wanted
Burman removed. The rabbit hole is
endless. So, let's get to the document
in question, shall we? Here's a
screenshot of it here. This is a draft
from the United States Attorney's
Office, the Southern District of New
York, US Attorney General. You see it
says here Jeffrey Berman for immediate
release. Check the date. Friday, August
9th, 2019.
It has the contact information here.
So, what does this statement say?
Statement of Manhattan US Attorney on
the death of defendant Jeffrey Epstein.
Manhattan US Attorney General Jeffrey
Berman said earlier this morning the
Manhattan Correctional Center confirmed
that Jeffrey Epstein, who faced charges
brought by, lost my spot here, sorry,
brought by this office of engaging in
sex trafficking of minors, has been
found unresponsive in his cell and
pronounced dead shortly thereafter.
Today's events are disturbing and we are
deeply aware of their potential to
present yet another hurdle to giving
Epstein's many victims their day in
court. To those brave young women who
have already come forward
and to the many others who have yet to
do so, let me reiterate that we remain
committed to standing for you and our
investigation of the conduct charge in
the indictment which included a
conspiracy count remains ongoing. Now,
this is 2019 and they told you that this
remained ongoing.
As we know, that was not the case.
Okay.
But the important part about this draft
right here, and I'm going to show you
the final one,
is the date. Friday, August 9th, 2019.
This was the first draft that Jeffrey
Epstein was found unresponsive in his
cell. But there's just one problem.
Jeffrey Epstein
didn't allegedly die on August 9th. He
was pronounced dead on August 10th.
That was a Saturday.
This is the most recent bombshell from
the Epstein files that has many people
in shock.
Now, many of us have said for the
longest time that we believe that
Jeffrey Epstein was murdered,
that he did not unal alive himself.
And I I stood by that for the longest
time, and I think many of you did as
well.
But now you have another piece of
evidence that shows you that the US
Attorney Office had already drafted
correspondence
on August the 9th.
He was found dead allegedly August the
10th. So even if this is the first
draft, the date should be the 10th.
Now, I know many people may see this and
they may say, "Well, maybe it was just a
mistake. Maybe they just happen to get
the date wrong." Sometimes people
confuse dates. Okay,
but the day is also there. The day says
Friday. August 10th was Saturday.
Let's get to the final draft. Let's show
you here. Shout out to Aaron Parnes for
sharing this. The final press release
sent out on August 10th added the words
apparent. We're going to say unaliving
because it's YouTube. Apparent unalign
of aliveing uh in the first sentence.
Those words did not appear in the press
release dated August 9th.
So, let's look at
the final press release.
United States Attorney Office, Southern
District of New York. Okay. Have it
here. The dates right here. Saturday,
August 10th.
The Manhattan US Attorney General um uh
excuse me, Jeffrey Berman said earlier
this morning the Manhattan Correctional
Center confirmed that Jeffrey Epstein,
who faced charges brought by this office
of engaging in sex trafficking of
minors, had been found unresponsive in
his cell and was pronounced dead shortly
thereafter and apparent unalivvening.
So this is the final draft.
Again, all this is in the Epstein files.
So now all of a sudden it goes from
found unresponsive to unaliving.
And the dates are different.
So they said he died on August 10th. The
first draft said August 9th.
The first draft did not say that he
unalived himself.
It just said he was found unresponsive.
Let's continue on here. Today's events
are disturbing and we are deeply aware
of their potential to present yet
another hurdle to give Epstein victims
their day in court to this brave young
woman yada yada. So that's uh the same
verbiage uh there.
And again that is dated August 10th.
So, we got a problem, ladies and
gentlemen. Cuz you see, now you're
starting to see other reasons why they
didn't want you to see these files.
Like, obviously, of course, the most
obvious reason is that they're trying to
protect powerful people. But then
there's little things like this, right?
Which basically shows you one or two
things happen. Let's say you still don't
think that there was any foul play here.
Okay? then that means that the US
attorney's office is completely clumsy
and reckless,
right? Because I could even understand
maybe you made a mistake with the date,
the 9th, the 10th, maybe you just got
the date wrong, but the day like you
said Friday, August 9th. Now all of a
sudden, you know, it it does not make
any sense to me. In the first draft, you
said that he was found unresponsive.
They didn't say that he unalived
himself. And in the final statement, all
of a sudden, the day is the 10th and it
says he unalived himself.
And then they will point to people and
get mad at people for asking questions
when it's quite obvious what is
happening here.
Just more evidence in my opinion that
shows that he was killed.
And if he wasn't killed, he was taken
away. Let's not forget what another
person said. Let's go ahead and go to
this part here. Ladies and gentlemen, we
have to remind you of this.
There was an individual who anonymous
anonymously posted on 4chan this morning
of Epstein's death August 10th, 2019 has
been identified in the Epstein files as
Roberto Graalva.
He was an officer at the Metropolitan
Correctional Center in New York. He
claimed that Epstein left his cell
Friday evening, shackled in a medical
wheelchair. While at the same time, an
unauthorized trip van arrived at the
prison, which he believes took Epstein
away the night before the news broke of
his death. Now, Roberto
had said that he saw Epstein leave. he
was taken away from his cell on August
9th. The first draft of that letter from
the US Attorney Office is dated August
9th.
Let's go on here. I just want to show
you. We have the images here.
Roberto Gradala up here is highlighted.
Signatory details. So, you can see yes,
this person was real. Yes, they did
exist.
Okay, let's go here. This is the post.
It was posted anonymously at that point
in time and it's dated August 10th.
Not saying anything after this. Please
do not try to dox me, but last night
after 4:15 count, they took him medical
in a wheelchair front cuffed, but not
one triage nurse says they spoke to him.
So, first of all, they took him. We have
to ask the question, who is they?
Next thing we know, a trip van shows up.
Trip van just shows up magically. We do
not do releases on the weekend unless a
judge orders it. Next thing we know,
he's put in a single man's cell and is
supposedly un alive.
Here's the thing. The trip van did not
sign in and we did not record the plate
number and a guy in a green dress
military outfit was in the back of the
van according to the tower guy who let
him through the gate. You guys, I'm
shaking right now, but I think they
switched him out.
Give me a second.
This guy said this August 10th, 2019.
So, something else that's very damning
here. Notice that he said they don't do
transfers on the weekend.
All of a sudden, a van shows up to do a
transfer. According to him, allegedly,
he believed that he was switched out
at this point in time. especially you
guys know how 4chan is. So at this point
in time, this is just seen as some
anonymous, you know, crazy person.
But now we have that statement
from the US attorney office which can
kind of point to this and show maybe
Roberto wasn't crazy.
Maybe he was telling the truth. And this
is why I push back on this whole
conspiracy thing because conspiracy
doesn't necessarily mean something is
false. It also doesn't mean it's bad.
Conspiracy, in my opinion, from what
I've seen over the years, means that
it's something that goes against the
status quo, the approved narrative
oftent times from the State Department,
etc.
But no one wanted to hear this at that
point in time.
And now you have that letter and again
he said that he was shaking shaking
United States government memorandum
Metropolitan Correctional Center New
York New York August 12th
warden in Dier
on February 9th 2019 approximately 150
Grada passed on to oncoming staff member
officer Davis
and present shift staff SOS Shakir and
Officer Joiner. That inmate Reyes was
going WAB and possibly may not return.
Also, that inmate Epstein will be
needing a cellmate upon arrival from his
attorney visit.
Again, look at the date. August 9th
memorandum went out on the 12th.
It says on August 9th
and see this is why I'm saying like now
you look at things a little bit
differently
and I want to go back to that video
footage that we saw before. Do you guys
remember when um the DOJ pass uh Cash
and and Pam Bondi and all of them, they
said, "We've got the video footage
outside of his cell to show you that
obviously there was no foul play there."
Remember what people noticed from that
video footage? Here's here's a reminder
just in case you forgot. Yesterday, the
DOJ released 10 hours of Epstein cell
footage and got caught cutting out a
full 60 seconds. The feed jumps clean
from 11:59 to midnight. No explanation,
just gone. That's probably the exact
moment he was calmly walked out of his
cell. Now, let me show you this here.
The time is right here in the bottom
lefthand corner. So, you can see
11:5857.
So, pay attention to that.
Look, there's the jump. There it is.
There it is. See how quickly? Boom.
right there just skips. Oh, dear God,
what happened to that whole minute?
Now, when this was called out, Pam Bondi
said, "Oh, well, the cameras just
automatically shut down for like 1
minute at a certain amount of time.
That's normal procedure." Da da da. The
point is, there is a lot that can happen
in one minute.
a lot that can happen. You ever try
timing yourself for one minute? I don't
know. Like maybe like when you're at the
gym and you're taking like a rest from a
set and you're like, "Let me set one
minute." I do a little bit longer or
whatever.
You ever try to like actually time one
minute and wait one minute and see? It
feels like it takes so much longer
because you're waiting for that time to
go by. A lot can happen in one minute.
Especially if they took him out the
other way.
Doesn't have to come out this way. What
if he came out back that way? Right? And
then there's something else. Because you
see, we're not fools.
This came from the Daily Mail. You know,
you got to take them with a grain of
salt sometimes. But considering
everything else that's being revealed, I
think we need to take a look at this.
They wanted both Epstein and me dead.
Jeffrey Epstein cellmate levelvel's
extraordinary claim that the government
deliberately left uh Epstein unprotected
in the jail cell. This was reported uh
February 6th. Let's go down uh here
right about
here.
Tareloney,
that's his uh cellmate asserted a
terrifying conspiracy. You see again how
they keep using this word con
conspiracy.
That's to discredit
that Epstein was deliberately exposed to
violence as part of a calculated effort
to ensure he would not survive long
enough to stand trial.
I was clearly not protected on purpose,
nor was Epstein.
I truly believe that the government
wanted both Epstein and me dead. Uh fast
forward to up here. says, um, the former
cop further alleges that shortly after
he was transferred to the Metropolitan
Detention Center in Brooklyn after
Epstein's death, he was assaulted by
other inmates with a lead pipe along
with other violent interactions with
other inmates where he was nearly beaten
to death.
Let's go on a little bit more here.
It's just showing uh evidence that he
was imprisoned there.
Um
the murder cop who Epstein had already
accused of an attempted killing just 3
weeks before his final breath now
insists that his proximity to the
financier was a calculated hit. It is no
coincidence that prior to the trial, I
was transferred to the Metropolitan
Correctional Center in Manhattan and
deliberately placed in the same cell as
Jeffrey Epstein. In the petition, he
also claims he was accused and
wrongfully convicted, saying that he was
the target of the lead prosecutor,
former United States Attorney uh Moren
Comey, daughter of the former FBI
director James Comey. Interesting how
that works out.
uh goes on to say here for a prisoner
looking to submit a pardon petition the
journey begins with the warden because
he is still serving time uh tarlone's
request is technically a petition for
commutation of sentence a formal plea
for the president to cut his time short
so he says that he was wrongfully
accused but he was I guess placed in the
same uh cell with Epstein
but what I found interesting about this
is that he said that he believed
that this was on purpose,
that
they deliberately
did this, that Epstein was deliberately
exposed to violence to make sure that he
would not survive.
So, we go again back to the there's just
there's no in my opinion. I don't
believe the latter. By the way, for
those wondering, I don't believe the
latter that they just made a mistake and
got the date wrong. I I don't believe
the latter. I believe this was
calculated. I believe he was killed. And
many of you do, too. And now you have
this statement from the United States
Attorney's Office that just makes things
a little bit bit even more suspicious.
Everything that you have been told about
Epstein from corporate media because
they're not even going as far from
corporate media and from the State
Department and especially even Benjamin
Netanyahu is getting into all this from
Israel as well. You need to have
reasonable doubts
because the reality is if Epstein would
have survived and would have stood
trial, he was probably going to talk
and they didn't want that to happen.
I gotta tell you guys, you know, I think
a lot of times people look at people who
are called conspiracy theorists or
whatever and they're like, "These people
are crazy. They don't know what they're
talking about." But I got to tell you
this, when it comes to this Epstein
situation,
I think people are owed an apology. I I
really do. There are many of us that
have been covering this for quite some
time. I've been talking about Epstein, I
think, for years. not as much as as as
I have been the past week because
there's so much to go through with these
files. But the reality is that the US
government, they wanted you,
actually the US government, the FBI, the
intel agencies, they really wanted
people to just look the other way on
this one. They did not expect for people
to press them for these files like
Roana, Thomas Massie, and Marjorie
Taylor Green. And the reality is without
them doing that, we don't have these
files. And we still don't have all of
the files.
But they didn't expect this to happen.
They figured, well, everybody knows this
guy was a creep. It'll just go by the
wayside. But that didn't happen.
And Cash Patel and Pam Bondi and Dan
Bonino, even though he quit, all of them
are complicit.
They lied to your face and told you
there was nothing to see here. They saw
the same files that you and I saw. And
actually, they even saw more because we
still don't have all the files.
These people are liars and they need to
be held accountable. All of these
people, there need to be demands right
now that Pam Bondi and Cash Patel resign
immediately. And those demands need to
come from us, the people, but also
Congress needs to make that demand.
These people need to resign.
So, I have more information that's going
to be coming forward uh about other
things that just came out about these
Epstein files that I have to do these in
separate videos just because it's so
much information. But when we get to all
of it,
it just gets crazier and crazier. Hey
guys, this was a savvy clip. If you like
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Epstein Bomb SHAKES Trump’s ENTIRE CABINET
by Adam Mockler
Feb 10, 2026

According to Jamie Raskin, Representative Jamie Raskin told Axios in an interview Tuesday that when he searched President Trump's name in the unredacted Epstein files that he has access to, it came up more than a million times.

The Adam Mockler Show



Transcript

case again for a pardon from the
president.
Again, this is not something I've
discussed with the president recently
because frankly it's not a priority.
He's focused on uh many of
Wait, they're not even going to rule out
a pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell. They're
not even ruling it out. And she's not
wearing her cross today. I think we know
why she's not wearing the cross. I
invoke my fifth amendment rights to
silence. That is what both Jeffrey
Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell said 16
years apart when they were asked the
same question about their relationship
with Donald Trump in the early 2000s to
mid 2000s. Those were the years when
Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein
oncreen now were engaged in their peak
sex crimes. The most disgusting,
disturbing acts that we are learning
more and more about every single day
after prying it out of the hands of the
DOJ. But this week has been disastrous
for the Trump administration. Good for
transparency and good for the survivors.
Multiple Trump admin officials have been
implicated in the files in ways that
undermine their previous statements.
Howard Lutnik said that he never talked
to Epstein after he got creepy vibes in
2005. Well, we now learn that Howard
Lutnik took his family to Epstein Island
after Epstein had been convicted. Think
about that. That is absolutely
disgusting and despicable. and to
confidently lie about it on camera after
is even more awful. We know that Elon
Musk also lied about his involvement
with Epstein. Now, we don't know if Elon
Musk actually visited the island.
There's a chance that Elon Musk never
visited the island, but what we do know
is that Elon straight up lied about it.
He said that he rejected an offer to go
to the island, but we learned that he's
the one that was begging to go to
Epstein's Island. Yesterday, Ghislaine
Maxwell testified in front of Congress
virtually, and pled the fifth on every
single statement, decided not to
incriminate herself any further in an
attempt to gain leverage over the Trump
administration. She's seen that the
pardons Trump has given out over the
past few months, including the former
founder of Binance, who allowed a bunch
of insane stuff to go on in his app,
including the former president of
Honduras, who was a literal drug
trafficker. Ghislaine Maxwell sees that
Trump is giving out pardon. So she asked
for one thing in particular, clemency.
She says, "I will not implicate you. In
fact, I can even clear your name if you
give me clemency." She's trying to gain
leverage over the Trump admin because
she knows he is uniquely transactional
and his name appears in the files over 1
million times. According to Jamie
Raskin, Representative Jamie Raskin told
Axios in an interview Tuesday that when
he searched President Trump's name in
the unredacted Epstein files that he has
access to, it came up more than a
million times.

Why it matters. At least
one of the files Raskin found appears to
contradict what Trump has publicly
claimed about his association with
Jeffrey Epstein. According to Jamie
Raskin, the document is a 2009 email
exchange between Epstein and Ghislaine
Maxwell in which Epstein recounted his
lawyer's account of a phone call with
Trump. Quote, Trump is
paraphrased and quoted as saying, "No,
Jeffrey Epstein was not a member of Mara
Lago, but he was a guest at Mar-a-Lago.
And no, we never asked him to leave."
that directly contradicts Donald Trump's
earlier claim that he asked Epstein to
leave in the same way that we're now
learning all of Elon Musk's earlier
claims are contradicted by the emails
and even Howard Lutnick's claims are
contradicted by the emails. We have a
lot to break down in this video, so make
sure you watch until the end. Make sure
you drop a like on the Adam Mach feed
and subscribe if you want more debates,
more breaking news. We are building a
very tight, amazing community here.
Okay, let's jump into Howard Lutnik.
Then we'll talk a little bit about Gain
and then I want to show you some clips
that blow up the entire Trump cabinet.
As Micah points out, an Epstein employee
said, "Attached is a resume of Lutnik
nanny." And there it is, more direct
evidence that Lutnik was not only
hanging out with Epstein 8 years after
he swore he had cut ties. But he's also
sourcing a nanny from Epstein. He must
resign or be impeached. There are no
other options. He lied about his
relationship with Epstein. He received a
nanny from him. Why has he not been
indicted or removed? Or why has he not
resigned? I mean, over in the UK, Kier
Starmer's chief of staff just officially
resigned because he was implicated in
the Epstein files in some way. We should
be holding our officials to a higher
standard than constantly flirting around
with people like this. Just read this.
In September of 2009, this is one of the
craziest allegations. In September of
2009, Ghislaine Maxwell was found with a
young girl matching the description of
missing Mariline McCain 2 years after
her disappearance in Portugal. There are
reports in the files of people saying,
you know, I was walking in a shop. It
was 2009. It's Sunday. It was very
quiet. And I turned off from my street
on the main road and found myself
walking behind a woman and a little
girl. They then described the woman and
a little girl. And we even have photos.
Someone said, "Can we talk about how
Ghislaine Maxwell looks similar to the
female abductor sketch of Maline
McCain?" So, this sketch that was
provided by eyewitnesses who saw uh
Maline McCain get abducted say this is
the person who did it. I think the
resemblance here is uncanny, incredibly
uncanny. And here is Donald Trump's
friends Epstein and Maxwell pleading the
fifth 16 years apart. Have you ever
socialized with Donald Trump in the
presence of
females under the age of 18?
Though I'd like to answer that question
at least today. I'm going to have to
assert my fifth, sixth, and 14th
amendment right. Sir,
are you aware of Donald Trump ever
engaging in sexual activity with an
individual introduced to him by you or
Jeffrey Epstein?
I invoke my fifth amendment right to
silence.
Both of them deciding to not incriminate
themselves further when they were asked
about Donald Trump is telling in and of
itself. Now, the legal nuance is that
invoking the Fifth Amendment is your
constitutional right. It doesn't always
mean you're guilty, but in this case, I
think with the surrounding context and
evidence, we can fill in some of the
gaps. Here's Howard Lutnik on a podcast
just a few months back describing how he
and Jeffrey Epstein, how he and Jeffrey
Epstein had cut ties in 2005. Then I'm
going to show you Howard Lutnik
testifying in front of Congress today,
being effing grilled for his life. I
have never seen anything this brutal,
and he should resign today or tomorrow.
This needs to happen. and he needs to
resign.

Take a
look at the old clip of him denying his
involvement, even going so far as saying
that he got the heebie-jeebies. He cut
him off and wouldn't let his family
around him.
He opens the doors and there's a massage
table in the middle of the room
and candles all around and stuff. So, I
ask very insightful, cutting questions.
I say to him, "Massage table in the
middle of your house. How often you have
a massage?"
And he says, "Every day." And then he
like gets like weirdly close to me
and he says, "And the right kind of
massage."
Now, my wife is standing here. So, she
looks at me and I look at her and we
say, "I'm sorry. We have to go." And we
left. And in the six or eight steps it
takes to get from his house to my house,
my wife and I decided that I will never
be in the room with that disgusting
person.
Okay, pause. Now, let's show you what
happened today. This is just so
incredibly brutal. It's such an
incredibly brutal backto back. Take a
look at this grilling
of these millions and millions of
documents. There may be 10 emails
connecting me with him. Probably about
10 emails connecting me with him over a
14-year period. I did not have any
relationship with him. I barely had
anything to do with that person. Okay,
Secretary Lutnik, I think you understand
the root of concern here. It's the way
you described
very emphatically your first encounter
with him in his apartment, said you were
disgusted, would never have any contact
with him again.
Yep.
Did you in fact make the visit to
Jeffrey Epstein's private island?
I did have lunch with him as I was on a
boat going across on a family vacation.
My wife was with me as were my four
children and nannies. I had another
couple with they were there as well with
their children and we had lunch on the
island. That is true for an hour and we
left with all of my children with my
nannies and my wife all together. We
were on family vacation. We were not
apart to suggest there was anything
unoured about that in 2012.
I don't I don't recall why we did it.
But
Mr. Secretary, again I as I said there's
fact that you believe that you misled
the country and the Congress based on
your earlier statements suggesting that
you'd cut off all contact when in fact
you had not. When you visited the
private island, did you see anything
inappropriate during that visit?
The only thing I saw with my wife and my
children and the other couple uh and
their children was staff who worked for
Mr. Epstein on that island.
And you realize that, you know, this
this visit took place after he had been
convicted, right? I mean, you made a a
very big point of saying that you sensed
that this was a bad person in 2005 and
then of course in 2008 he was convicted
of soliciting prostitution of a minor
and and yet you went and had this trip
and other interactions. Did you have a
dinner in Epstein's New York City home
in 2011?
No.
So, the information that suggests that
there was a dinner with Woody Allen and
Woody Allen's spouse at the Epstein
residence, that's that's there's nothing
to that. Is that right?
I actually don't know what you're
referring to. There was Look, I I looked
through the uh millions of documents for
my name just like everybody else.
And what I found was
everybody else I didn't look through the
documents for my name. Did you look
through for your name? If everybody else
around you is also looking for their
names in the Epstein files, you need
some new damn friends or you just need
to leave the administration rather.
There was a document that says that I
had a meeting with him on uh in May, I
think, uh for an hour for at 5:00.
Okay.
Not dinner or otherwise for an hour at
5:00.
Okay, so that was brutal. But let me
show you Caroline Leavitt's answer. Let me
show you Caroline Leavitt's disastrous
answer when she was asked about this
exact hearing that happened earlier this
morning. Now, just think about how
catastrophic this is for everybody in
the administration. Caroline Leavitt has
to come up on screen with no cross.
Notice that Caroline Leavitt has no cross
today. M and and she has to defend a
multitude of people for pedophilic
allegations. Whether it's Donald Trump
or Howard Lutnik or Elon Musk or Worsh
who's the new Fed chair pick that's
going to come after Jerome Powell, he's
also in the files. Everybody that Trump
picks, it's almost like it's a
prerequisite to be in the files. Take a
look at this clip.
Caroline, um uh Secretary Lutnik today
was testifying on the Hill and he said
that he had visited um Epstein's Island
in 2012 with his wife and children. Um
and that's after he said that he had cut
ties with Epstein and uh the Justice
Department documents show that he was in
contact with Epstein uh through 2018
over messages. So does the White House
stand behind uh Secretary Lutnik right
now or given what he has said today, has
there been any shift in how the White
House is viewing um Secretary Lutnik's
performance?
No, Secretary Lutnik remains a very
important member of President Trump's
team and the president fully supports
the Secretary. Uh, I will just point out
that there are a lot of winds in the
news this week that people in this room
have not asked about because you
continue to ask questions about the same
subject. So, let me point them out for
you.
Lord have mercy. She said, Lutnik
remains a very important member of
President Trump's team. So, we're just
openly having people that are in the
files walking around the Trump admin.
Any single person, any single voter in
the Republican party who has ever
demonstrated concern about the Epstein
files and isn't immediately turning on
this admin has no spine. Number one.
Number two, when Caroline Leavitt says at
the end, there's a multitude of issues
that we could be talking about, it's
like, I wish we weren't talking about
the president posting racist videos of
the former uh presidents. I wish we
weren't talking about the president's
pedophile allegations. I wish it wasn't
like this, but unfortunately, this is
the reality that we are in when this
administration wants to cover everything
up, try to pull a wool over the eyes of
the American people and enrich
themselves off the back of the American
people. Then Caroline is asked if
Ghislaine Maxwell will ever be granted
clemency.
And if they don't want to, that's their
loss.
And on Ghislaine Maxwell, is the president
going to rule out a pardon for her uh in
her uh testimony deposition yesterday.
Her legal team seems to be making a case
again for a pardon from the president.
Again, this is not something I've
discussed with the president recently
because frankly, it's not a priority.
He's focused on uh many of the issues
that the American people are dealing
with and and providing solutions to
those issues. U so I haven't spoken with
him him recently. Last time we did speak
about it, he said it's not something
he's considering or thinking about.
Go ahead, Bloomberg.
She's not ruling it out. They are not
ruling out granting clemency or
pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell. It should be
so easy. This should be a an easy no. We
are not going to pardon a convicted sex
trafficker. Of course, we are not going
to do that. But they can't they can't
even rule that out. In the same way they
haven't ruled out military force against
our allies. In the same way they haven't
ruled out blowing up all of our
alliances in one swoop just to show the
other countries. This administration is
an absolute mess. We need to vote them
out in November. And they are going to
continue to get desperate and try to
cling on to power as more and more is
revealed. Just the lack of transparency
on multiple fronts is absurd. Even
beyond the Epstein files, which that's
not even a sentence, I should say even
beyond the Epstein files. But even
beyond that, think about what else
they've covered up over the past month.
The murder, the execution of Renee
Nicole Good, then the subsequent
execution of Alex Pretti, then Trump's
health problems in his hands and his
ankles, then Donald Trump covered up
economic data earlier this month. I
mean, over and over and over, the lack
of transparency is stemming from
desperation. and they know they're about
to lose and we need to continue to
double down on pro-democracy rhetoric,
pro-democracy work. If you want to
become a part of the community, make
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Pam Bondi EXPLODES in Congress Over Epstein Cover-Up
The Lincoln Project
Feb 11, 2026

Pam Bondi’s performance in Congress told us everything we need to know about this DOJ’s priorities. Instead of standing with the victims of Jeffrey Epstein, she deflected, stonewalled, and protected the powerful. Millions of documents remain redacted, unanswered questions keep piling up, and accountability is nowhere in sight. Rick Wilson breaks down what this hearing revealed about corruption, loyalty to Trump over the law, and why the fight for justice is far from over.



Transcript

Hey folks, I just want to pop on for a
minute, because I want to talk about
what we saw today in Congress with Pam
Bondi.

I have low expectations for the humanity
and morality and compassion
for anybody involved in the Trump
administration, as one should. These are soulless,
horrible, terrible human beings. They're
the worst of the worst. They
are examples of the lowest of
humanity.

But I have to say two things
about Pam Bondi today.
When she refused to even turn and
acknowledge the presence of the victims
in the room, when she over and over and over and over
again, instead of acknowledging the
damage, the rapes, the sexual abuse, the
human trafficking that was conducted by
Jeffrey Epstein and his wealthy friends,
she tried to flip it over every
time and blame the immigrants for
something else, tried to make this into
a conversation today about
what immigrants were doing in the
country, rather than what Jeffrey Epstein
did, and what the people around Jeffrey
Epstein have gotten away with, it tells
you really something vital about Pam
Bondi. I'm going to go through the
three things I think it tells you most
about Pam Bondi.

One, her client, as you
are all well aware, is not America.
It's not the Department of Justice. It's
not our laws, or the Constitution. It is
Donald Trump. She believes that the sort
of clownish performance she put on today
matters only because Trump likes it. And
it does. It's the only reason that
matters.

Now, look, the Democrats tried
their best to ask the questions the
way they wanted to ask them. And
guys, I got a couple of pointers here
for later, but this is a low person.
Pam Bondi's a low person.

I've known Pam for 25 years. Not
well. We're not friends. But I've been
around Florida politics. Pam's never
been a smart person, but she's always
been a vicious little creature
in pursuit of sucking up to the next
level, to enrich herself politically
or personally.

But what you saw today, her absolute
contempt for the victims of Jeffrey
Epstein, this should tell you
something about her character,
going through the whole showy BS today.
"Boy, what about this immigrant, and what
about that immigrant?"

Okay, prosecute him, hold him accountable,
arrest him, convict him. Great. Nobody's
against it. But you can see the level to
which this obsesses the Trump
administration. And you can see the level to which Pam
Bondi was willing to reduce herself to a
gibbering idiot. Because the Trump
administration knows that they're still
bleeding from this Epstein matter.
And they're going to keep bleeding from it.
They know they're involved in a cover
up. They've been busted cleanly on a
cover up. Cleanly busted on a cover up.

Pam Bondi is the head of that cover up.
She has been in charge of these
redactions. You'll notice that was one
of the moments she got very squirrely
today on the redactions. Super squirrely.
Like you could tell if Pam Bondi had a
lump of coal between her knees, a
diamond would have popped out.

She is aware of the suffering of these victims and
simply doesn't care.
That's the key point here, guys, to
understand something. They don't care.
There is no moral center there. There is
no subset of her behavior, or her soul, or
her life, where she says, "You know, these
victims really deserve our
compassion and our attention. They
deserve justice." They do not, in her
mind, deserve justice.
In her mind, they're just an
embarrassment to Donald Trump, and
therefore have to be ignored, shunted,
shunned, pushed aside.

When you saw Dan Goldman asking if any of
them had been contacted by the DOJ,
and none of them had, if they tried to
reach out to the DOJ, and all of them
had, if they were still willing to talk to
the DOJ, and all of them were. And Pam
Bondi, her response was to throw up
another 8 by 10 picture of some rando.

Pam Bondi is is a low person.
She is a person who lives in a world
her obedience to
Donald Trump leads to her absolute
inhumanity toward these victims,
and her absolute despicable,
repulsive, juvenile behavior toward
Congress.

I'm going to get to point two about Pam
Bondi's character in a second, because
that is something that she's going to
have a very different world to
face. She recognizes
quite clearly that the world is going to change.
This committee is not going to be all
Jim Jordan and the Republican
crew throwing her softball questions,
bailing her out, letting her answer in
her long winded oppo research driven BS
answers, because the Republican majority
is on a razor's edge right now. As I
record this, there is a real possibility
the majority could be gone within 24
hours due to Congressman Neil Dunn, if the
rumor is true, resigning. And if that happens,
the majority is going to get real
interesting real quickly.

Pam Bondi was there today writing
checks that she can't cash in the future,
when there is a Democratic majority in
that body.

You can see the outlines of her strategy
today starting to protect herself in the
future by trying to say, "Oh, well,
it's all your fault. You guys didn't
bring this up before with Merrick Garland!"
Okay, sure. She's opened
herself up, I believe, not only to
contempt, but I think she's perjured herself
repeatedly today.

It's something about Pam Bondi's character.
She is a hustler, okay? Pam Bondi is a hustler. She's
always been trying to climb the ladder
politically. She recognizes opportunity, and she
recognizes risk. Today, a lot of this
performance, the showier, louder,
uglier parts, were about
opportunity. To be in Trump's good
graces. Keep Trump happy. Make Trump
think that you're the fierce warrior for
him, and you're going to defend him to
the dying day, in the Fuhrer
bunker. You're going the last one
standing. They're going to be there with
the gas can over him when the
Fuhrer bunker falls to the Russians.

I think she also smelled some risk
today. Now look, Democrats,
when you do take power, don't go in
there with yes or no questions of Miss
Bondi. You now know what she does.
You now know what she is.

If the power shift happens sooner than November,
I beg of you, drag her ass and Kash
Patel's ass, and Todd Blanche's ass, in
front of a committee every possible
moment you get. Have lots of hearings.
Have tons of hearings. Keep the hearings
rolling 24/7. Because I'll tell you what
else I saw about Pam Bondi today. And I
know this about Pam Bondi, because I know
the people that advise her. She requires a lot of prep.
That thing today, and and every one
of her recent experiences and
appearances, have been highly prepared,
have been highly scripted. They went
through the oppo, they've got the oppo
goons working on this, to find the
three immigrants who committed a crime
in Dan Goldman's district, or whatever.

Okay, great. It is time to drag her hard
in these committees. Not only because it's fun to drag Pam
Bondi, and it's necessary to drag Pam
Bondi, and it's frankly necessary to
impeach Pam Bondi, because she is a malicious actor. She's engaging
in widespread abuse of power in the DOJ
by persecuting and prosecuting and
attempting to go after Trump's
political opponents that he has
identified for her. They are engaged in a corrupt bargain
with Ghislaine Maxwell, by moving her to a
cushy club fed, in order to try to suborn her perjury, to
exonerate Donald Trump.
She is violating the law by engaging in
this cover up at scale.

Guys, think about the immediate future with this,
especially if control of the House slips
out of Mike Johnson's hands now, or even
the summer. Do not let your foot off the gas. Do not
ever take your foot off the gas. Bondi is
not smart. Remember this. She's crafty.
She's kind of clever. She's a little smart mouth.
But if she's not prepared, and if you
roll her through her prepared answers
and her props, she will fall apart.

Now, her exposure on this obviously is not going to be an
easy lift, but it is going to be a vital
lift. If you paralyze the Department of
Justice, and the system they are building
to persecute Donald Trump's political
enemies, and to engage in the lawlessness
that they've engaged in with, for
instance, Fulton County in Georgia, and
the lawlessness they're engaging as a
backstop to ICE and DHS,
you've found a lynchpin there.
You found a valence in the
structure, where you can hammer and
hammer and hammer. And she deserves it.
She's a horrible human being. She's a
bad person.

And I promise you, she's going to go
back to her very, very beautiful
apartment in Navy Yard, or wherever she
lives in DC, and she will not lose a
minute of sleep over this. She will not
stare at the ceiling and go, "Oh my god.
Oh my god. I should have said something
to those women. They were raped when
they were little girls. They were
trafficked when they were little girls.
They were sexually abused by Jeffrey
Epstein and wealthy, wealthy, powerful men
when they were little, little girls.
Because folks, we know from the documents
that have been released so far that there
were victims as young as 9 years old.

And this is the third big point
about Pam Bondi. She has always had a
keen nose for rich people. She's shoved
her nose right up the asses of very rich
men for a very long time.
Cuz she wants power, and she wants
proximity to that money. She wants
proximity to the kind of people that
hung around Jeffrey Epstein.
And right now she's making sure they owe her.

The fact that they exposed the victims
was deliberate and Pam Bondi knew it.
The fact that Pam Bondi exposed the
names and identities, including things
like phone numbers of the victims of
Jeffrey Epstein in these documents,
they spent a thousand man hours, a
million dollars of extra overtime
pulling Trump's name out.
But even though the law specified that
the victim's names must be redacted,
she did it deliberately. They did it to
intimidate the victims of Jeffrey
Epstein. Pam Bondi did this to
deliberately intimidate the victims of a
serial pedophile
and sex trafficker.
She did it so the victims would shut up.

This is one of the most morally
reprehensible and despicable things I've
ever seen out of the Trump universe. And
I am a close student of their utter
immorality and evil.
But Pam Bondi is protecting the names
of very wealthy men. It's not just Les
Wexner. Pam Bondi has no interest in
prosecuting very wealthy men who were
around Jeffrey Epstein. She has no
interest in justice for the victims of
these very wealthy men who are around
Jeffrey Epstein. Because all roads lead
back to Donald Trump. The roads lead
back to people that she cares about. The
roads lead back to a power structure of
men in New York, and Washington, and Los
Angeles, and London, that she would like
to have on her side in the future.

You know, she worked for a guy before she
came to the DOJ, named Brian
Ballard. You may not have heard of Brian
Ballard. He's the most powerful lobbyist
in America. He is the biggest lobbyist
in the world. Brian is a very, very, very wealthy guy,
and a very powerful guy. He is a dark
shadow flickering behind the scenes of
many of these little plays you see in
Trump world. Why did they decide we
could put lead in daycare centers or
whatever? That's Brian Ballard almost
certainly. He is a lobbyist for the
highest bidder, and Pam Bondi was one of his star
players.

For all that, my Republican
friends go, "Oh, Qatar, Iran, the
evil Muslims." Yeah, she was the
lobbyist for Brian D. Ballard. $150,000 a
month. So she cares very much about the
wealthy men who could be harmed by
revelation, by prosecution.

If this justice department even had
one scrap, one tiny fraction, one scintilla
of justice about it, they would be
running investigations against the powerful powerful men that
we know of so far. If they had one
scintilla of justice, they would not redact the names. They
would not redact the information. They
would not blank out the
pictures, and the identities
of these wealthy men. They would not
seek to protect them as she does at
every point, at every turn.

These victims of Jeffrey Epstein are
enormously brave women.
They are the family members of the
surviving victims, like Virginia Giuffre's family, who I've had
the privilege to talk to and interview.
These people had to go out there today
and stand behind the most powerful law
enforcement officer in the country, and
listen to her lie, and listen to her ignore them, and listen
to her treat them with utter contempt, and hatred.

I want you to think about who Pam Bondi
is. Pam Bondi is a person who gives Donald Trump whatever he
wants at any given moment, and cares no shits
about anybody else. She cares nothing,
nothing for these victims.

Oh, the DOJ will sit down with the
debate. It is a lie. They have not. They
have refused to do so.
They care more about Ghislaine Maxwell than
they care about the victims, the girls who are now women, but who were
girls and children that Jeffrey Epstein
raped, and that Jeffrey Epstein pimped
out to other powerful men.

The lies these people have told, and told,
and told, and told, and told. The lies
they have told so many times. "Oh,
there's no conspiracy. He didn't traffic
to anybody but himself." What are you
talking about? "We're done. We released
the one volume of Epstein files to
the Influencers. That's it. We're done."
"I've got the whole thing on my desk. Nothing there. No."

And yet everything we see,
even though we have less than 50% of the
documents so far from the Epstein
related information, leads us to
conclude this is wider, and deeper, and
more systemic, and more horrifying than
we want to admit to ourselves, and
that's what they're hoping. They're
hoping you don't want to look too
closely. They're hoping you don't want
to stare too long into the abyss.
They're hoping you don't want to say,
"Yeah, let's read another couple hundred
emails back and forth between these guys
joking about, "I've got a young one for you. She's hot. I'm going
to give Musk this girl and that." There is no
accountability right now for any person
who was a friend of Jeffrey Epstein in America.

Across the world, people who knew Epstein, who
communicated with Epstein, who were
friends with Epstein, they're losing
their jobs, whether they're in
government, or the private sector.

The Finlanders, in their investigation, have
removed the immunity of the person that was involved.
People are being held accountable. In
the UK, it's probably going to bring
down the government because of
Peter Mandelson.

This lack of accountability is something
Pam Bondi was out there today very proudly
boasting about, slapping Congress in the
face with a big "Fuck You!" Because
she wouldn't commit to investigating any
of the powerful men around Jeffrey
Epstein. She wouldn't commit to
justice for the victims. She wouldn't
commit to following the law that was
passed and signed by her own president,
to reveal what the FBI and the DOJ know.

They still have 3 million documents that
they're busily scrubbing out of the
system. We will never know how many they
have removed illegally from the system.
And I promise you, I know who these
people are. I know what they will do. If
you don't think that Donald Trump says,
"Take those files and shred them that
are about me," you are mistaken. He
will. And they'll say, "No, sir. We
can't do that." And then it'll happen
anyway.

You know, one of the things Pam Bondi
kept saying today was, "Well, nobody
investigated during the Barr, Comey, or
Garland eras." Yeah, actually, there was
an investigation still running
during the Biden administration in the
Southern District of New York. Who
killed that investigation? Oh, it was
Pam Bondi at Donald Trump's order.

Guys, Pam Bondi is a horrible human being.
She is unethical, she is immoral, she is cruel,
she is callous. And by the way, she's a lawyer.
You guys should all know this.

By the way, just so you know, in Florida,
when she was the attorney general, she
had a cleanup crew running behind her at
all times. She's a terrible lawyer.
She's not a good lawyer. And you
would not put Pam Bondi in a courtroom.
I promise you that.

Pam Bondi, when the
moment comes, must be impeached and
removed from office. And although
Republicans are going to say, "Oh, no.
We're not going to do that," to the
president. "She's his choice." Pam
Bondi must be impeached and removed from
office.

You saw today a contempt for the
law, a contempt for the victims, and a
contempt for justice. And that's Pam
Bondi. And that is a person who
should be disbarred, frankly. But
that is a person who told you very
clearly today what they're doing here.
They're protecting the wealthy people
around Jeffrey Epstein, including
Donald Trump. They're trying to make the
victims shut up, and they're trying to
tell Congress to Fuck off.

You know, Pam, I can't wait for the day, and it
will come, when you don't have a Republican majority;
when Jim Jordan isn't there to ignore
the other people on the Committee and to
cover for you. There will come that day.
And the questions you will be asked then
will put you in a position where you're
going to perjure yourself.
Cuz you're not that
bright, Pam. You'll perjure yourself.
You'll lie and think, "Oh, I can lie
my way through it. Fox News
won't cover it that way, so I'll be
okay." But you won't, cuz this country
will get back to the law. This country
will get back to justice.
And your miscarriage of it will be the
thing that brings you down.

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Epstein's Driver Confessed to 2 Bodies...
Trap More Ross
2/7/26



Transcript

"Trap More" gang. The 2026 information dump from the Epstein files has really
opened a lot of people's eyes to what was really going on amongst the high level elites. But not only has it
confirmed a lot of suspicions about rich billionaires secretly diddling kids on
islands, all types of weird stuff, but also, it's actually verified allegations from years ago that
a lot of people brushed off as phony fantasy, and a load of crap. But now with
these files, there's little details where they're saying, "Hang on a minute. What that guy said in 2020,
actually, that must have been true. That thing that the guys were saying in 2018, that must have been true."

And now, another thing that's come out that I've seen, is a 2020 4chan thread, okay, where
somebody claimed to actually be an employee for Jeffrey Epstein, and basically exposed
what was going on behind the scenes with Epstein, right? This was back in 2020, just after he died, okay? This anonymous
insider claimed that he had had interactions with high-profile names like Rihanna. Yeah. Rihanna, and Mitt
Romney's relatives. Okay? He'd apparently spent time working on the island himself.

Well, now things have come out in the new files that are making people believe that this was actually true.
So, I'm going to break this down for you guys.

Okay, this is very very very interesting. Okay, we don't know if this is 100%, 1000% true, but it's another instance where new information from the
files that have just been released are making everybody look back on these random things that have been
brushed aside. And now people are saying, "I think this might have been true." So, let me break this down for you.

Okay, this Reddit post going in r/Epstein and r/epstein, is absolutely booming at the moment. And you know I'm a Reddit demon. I'm
all over it. So I know I said I was going to stop, but I've actually got a bunch of new updates that I'm going to go through with you today. It's not all Epstein
related, but definitely some Epstein related. This anonymous 4chan post from 2020 is from a worker for Epstein. It seems pretty believable these
days. 20 screenshots. And we're going to dig into all of them.

All right. So, he said, "I'm going to off myself tomorrow. I'm also sending three packets of copied information to the media: one to CNN,
one to MSNBC, and one to Fox News." You all will have to see which one tells the truth about the information they receive,
and who doesn't. I trust 4chan to do this, because of our history of releasing legit info in the face of a mass media
cover up. 4chan is looking solid these days. It says,

I've been a professional driver and security guard for a circle of very wealthy people for almost 8
years. I started by working the door at a private gentleman's club outside the DC area. From that job, I was introduced
to some employment managers for Jeffrey Epstein. Because I had experience as both a cab driver and a bouncer, as well
as always overlooking and keeping my mouth shut about the drugs and prostitution my employers at the clubs profited from, they thought I'd be a
good fit to work the weekends for Mr. Epstein.

At first, I didn't do very much. Definitely nothing important. I would run errands mostly, and do anything my
manager, who reported directly to Mr. Epstein, wanted me to do. So, say the
gardener calls in sick one day. It would be me mowing the lawn in his place. I was sort of a floating general
helper.

Inevitably, I ran into Mr. Epstein now and then, and he was always very personable, & enthusiastic. And I'd
heard about his original court case, and the rumors and everything, but just meeting this guy made me feel like it was all a lie, because he seemed so kind
and genuine. I thought he really was just this hot shot money man, like a Bruce Wayne, or Tony Stark type figure.
And I think ultimately that's how he wanted us to all see him. His god complex was, to say the least, very
developed.

Eventually, I was trusted with bigger jobs. I think I got a good reputation, because I cleaned one of Mr. Epstein's
bedrooms one day. To my dismay, there was a mixture of, let's say, dookie [shit], and man
milk on the bed sheets. I dealt with it professionally, and I didn't say anything.

I knew by then that someone was always watching. There were cameras in almost every single room, save Mr. Epstein's
private office and regular bedroom. He had several bedrooms, but one was his favorite, I guess, his main room, and I never mentioned it to anyone, I still got a thank you from my manager for being discreet.

One day I was asked to go and pick up a masseuse from a bus station.

Excuse me. Sorry, I'm tired of the Epstein files.

I didn't ask for her age. I knew better. But she couldn't have been older than 16. I got a really bad feeling in my stomach, because at this point, denying Mr. Epstein's taste would be borderline irrational. I did my job, though. I took her to his house, and a few years hours later, I took her back to the bus stop. And she was crying. I didn't talk to her about it. A few weeks later, I did it again.

Now, my manager tells me that Mr. Epstein would like me to take over all of his various pickups and
drop offs. They called it caddy duty. But it was more than just girls. I would
pick up drugs, and other assorted packages, most of which I had no idea of the contents. But as far as I
was concerned, the lesser I knew, the better.

I was getting paid very well for the amount of work that I was doing. In a given day, I spent three, maybe four hours, doing anything that could be considered work. The rest of the time, I either sat in my car browsing 4chan on my phone, or inside pretending like I was rich, and this was my house. For this, I was being paid $75,000 a year, more than I'd ever even hoped to have made in my whole life. When I was doing most of the driving, it went up to $115,000.

Every time my job became more illegal, the money would get better. That's his tactic. He knows people will just do about anything for the right price I
just want people to know, I guess, call it a public confession, because I'm guilty. I guess I don't care that much, because I'm going to be dead. I've done
things that I can't forgive myself for, and I think they will have me killed anyway. So I'm going to do it on my own terms.

Anyway, Mr. Epstein is very shrewd. He pays you a lot, but not enough for the shit you have to do. And he tries to find the absolute least amount amount he can pay you to keep it going. For me, disgracefully, that was around 150k. I stayed on caddy duty for about 4 months. Then, Mr. Epstein took a trip abroad, and he loaned me out to another family, the Romneys.

Now, keep in mind, I never met Mitt Romney. And I don't think I even worked for him. I just worked for the family. I reported to an employment manager as usual, and I was tasked with driving a young man named Cole around wherever he wanted. Cole was probably 22, already
had his license, and had been suspended for drunk driving. He lived in a huge house out in the middle of nowhere outside Boulder, Colorado. Man, it was
beautiful. If I could have stayed there forever, I would have. I suspect it was a vacation "Cabin/Mansion" owned by his
parents. But I digress.

Every weekend, we'd drive into the city, and he would get shitfaced drunk, then find a woman, or working
girl, and I'd take us all back home. Cole was a piece of total shit. If you remember scumbag Steve, just imagine if Steve's parents were multi-millionaires, if not billionaires, and you get the idea. So one Sunday morning, after a typical Saturday night, I reported for duty at 8 a.m. sharp, knowing damn well
Cole isn't going to drag his ass out of bed until at least 3 p.m. Here he comes hobbling down the driveway in his socks to my car. He usually texts when he's
up, and I come inside and start cleaning up his mess. No text today. He comes over to the car as I'm stepping out. He says, "Uh, hey buddy. We got kind of got a problem here, but it's not that big of a deal." Okay, what? Let's see it. We go inside upstairs to his bedroom. His girl from
last night is laying face up, her mouth open, is filled with vomit. She's most definitely dead. As far as I can tell,
she overdosed on whatever combination of prescription drugs they were doing. She passed out, puked, then suffocated on her own vomit.
I'm absolutely flipping out, and I've got my phone out dialing 911. Cole slaps it out of my hand, and tells me to hold on. He says he
can't get in trouble, because it will look bad on his family. I said, "Cole, you've already been getting into trouble." He says he knows, just not
this kind of trouble. He says, "I'll get a big bonus if I just deal with it myself."

Now, I'm way out here in the middle of nowhere, and the implication from day one of my employment in this circle,
has been that if I mess up, I might suffer harsh consequences. I know
what I did here was wrong. I know that, and I'm so sorry. I asked him what I'm supposed to do. He says, "Just
wait." He gets a different phone out of a drawer, and starts making calls. After a few minutes, while I'm waiting in the hallway, he's casually pacing around the corpse. He gives me GPS coordinates for a little spot up in the mountains. I'm
supposed to wrap her up, take her there, and drop her off. He said there would be guys waiting there to take her.

It's a long drive, and I don't look forward to it one bit. I wrap her up in his comforter. He stops me. "Bro," he says, "Bro, not that blanket. That's like the softest
blanket in the world, dude. No way." He gets me a different blanket from the closet. Effing real gentleman, Cole was.
He's got an F-150 at the property used for landscaping work. I put her body in the bed, with a tarp on top of it. I fill
the rest of the back with landscaping supplies, and fertilizer, tools. I tried to make it look really natural and boring. I'm shitting bricks. I can't believe I'm
actually doing this. But he's promising me that if I get busted, I'll have the best lawyers that money can buy, and I believe him. She's dead already anyway,
and it's unlikely that he would even get into any real legal trouble. Just bad press. So, what's the difference?

The whole time I'm driving, I'm just sweating through my clothes. I have to stop twice and puke. When I get there, there's a little dirt spot you can pull
off into. And sure enough, there's a big black SUV, and a Jeep with off-road tires. I'm not about to just assume
these are the body people. So I stop and get out, and approach the SUV. The window rolls down, and there's a woman who's probably in her 50s, and a big guy
driving. I don't know what to say, so I'm kind of like, "Uh, how's it going?" I'm feeling like a complete effing
idiot. She makes a call, and describes me to the person on the phone. She then puts it down and says, "We're who you're
looking for. Is it under all that stuff in the bed?" I say, "Yeah, do you need help?" She says, "No, take a break."

So, I walk into the trees a little bit, and smoke a cigarette or two. They've got her out, and put her in the jeep within about 5 minutes. The woman tells me to wait 15 minutes before I leave. Then they pulled out and drove away. The jeep drives further into the woods. I wait maybe seven minutes and I leave.

I got a text later telling me not to ever leave early again. It was from a blocked number. Wow!

So when I get back to the house, Cole is sitting at the kitchen table eating a massive bowl of Fruit Loops with a big serving spoon watching Love and Hip Hop.
This man is like a child, and he hasn't even gotten dressed yet. He asked me to wash his blanket and sheets, and I do it. We got really drunk that night, and Cole tells me this happened twice before, and it's always fine He says he's like Scarface, and I hate him.

The remaining few months go by without incident, and he gets his license back, freeing me at last.

Mr. Epstein doesn't need me at this time, but I do get referred as a reliable driver to the big wigs at Def
Jam Records, who assigned me to work for Rihanna's crew while she promoted Talk That Talk, at the time her sixth and
newest album.

For the record, I'm not sure I believe this. I'm not sure I believe this. But let's let's see what they say in the comments. It says,

I never met Miss Rihanna in person, just in passing now and then, but I found this job to agree with me a lot better than the others. I drove a van stacked with promotional gear, city to city, while she toured. A few times I was sent to pick up Molly [MDMA], and was taught to use test strips for purity. If it wasn't pure, I was supposed to walk away, but it was always pure.

There are circles within circles of connections. I believe there's an entire shadow economy strictly for the rich and famous, to get their rocks off collectively. One thing I did learn about Rihanna is that she enjoys young females as well.

I don't know if I believe that. I don't want to get the lawsuit. All right, this is just a deranged 4chan post.

I was sent to pick up two young girls, and bring them to her hotel room. Of course, I was met outside the door by someone more important than me. This struck me as odd, because as far as I understand, Rihanna is not a billionaire like Epstein. I think she is now. But she was even more insulated and protected than he was. I'm sure that a lot of it has to do with just personal choices regarding security, but I get the picture that in this world, influence and money both equal power. And Rihanna, especially in 2011, 2012, was highly influential. All I had to do was mention her name, and girls would get in the car just like
that. Rihanna, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Rihanna.

Okay, I'm sorry, but I'm going to keep reading.

So, the most noteworthy thing that happened while working for Def Jam is when Rihanna had a party to celebrate the end of her tour. Everybody was there, and I mean all of the pop stars were there. Jonas Brothers, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, even a few old heads like
Elton John, and some actors. I noticed John Travolta of Shore, Seth Rogan, Emma Stone, Bradley Cooper to name a few. For
this party, I was of course tasked with getting entertainment. They wanted as young as they could get, and as many as they could get.

I think I've actually read this section before.

Ostensibly, they were being hired to be wait staff, and valet drivers, but the plan was to switch it up on them when they actually
get there. Give them drugs, money, whatever they need to get them to do what they wanted them to do, which was essentially to be all expenses paid "Working People", for whoever wanted them. That part, thankfully, was not my job. I'm just a piece of shit who tricked them into going. I picked up five young girls from a mall, a couple of teenage boys. I found them walking along the road. Then I got hold of an escort company to make it an even dozen. The ones from the escort company were not underage and I was severely chastised for it. My manager basically asked if I ever wanted to work again. I said yes. He said, "Then act like you've got some goddamn sense." I didn't make this mistake again.

After the tour ended, I was just on my own for about a month or so. I rented a house near Tulsa, and basically isolated myself the entire time. I was starting to get ideas in my head about going to trade school, or something, when I was called back to work for Mr. Epstein again.

At this point, I've developed a bad coke habit, of which I've only been sober a few months to this day. I needed something to make me do it. Coke makes you feel numb in a way not much else does. And believe me, I've tried just about everything. There are research chemicals no one has even heard of, that get traded around in these circles. And when I came back to work for Mr. Epstein, on his island, I was going through an eightball every day or two. I binge-drank at night, but I had to keep focused during the day. The coke wired me up, and the liquor brought me back down. That's the only way mentally I could really cope with what was happening.

I was flown to his now infamous island to be one of the regular staff. Essentially, I lived on this island for free while getting paid to maintain the grounds, and keep the buildings up. [u]When Mr. Epstein was there, obviously he would bring his own entertainment, so I didn't even have to do that. I thought, "This sounds like an effing fantastic deal. Island paradise, great wages, not much real work. Count me in!" Out of all of my sins, I believe sloth is the most damaging one I indulge in. I always look for the easy dollar, and that's why I'm prey for people like this.

Now, first of all, this island is like a paradise on Earth. It's always a comfortable temperature. The rains are breathtakingly beautiful. The architecture and decor of the houses are exquisite. Yes, the bath house is really creepy. The fake doors are there to confuse flyby surveillance if anyone was
wondering. The other regular staff were hard to get along with. They were all Creeps, and I mean capital C effing Fucking
Creeps. It made me wonder about myself honestly, that I'm here with them. They all joked about getting Mr.
Epstein's leftovers, and the talk was constantly about when Mr. Epstein was going to visit the island again, when he would bring important people, world
leaders, CEOs, etc.

I, and most of the staff, were kept totally out of sight. We weren't allowed to work in an area, unless we knew it was empty. Only his most trusted employees could actually be in the building with him and his highpowered friends. Sometimes though, it would just be the family, and things would be more relaxed.

I passed by his office once carrying some garbage, when he beckoned me inside. He asked me my name, and I told him. He offered me a seat, and I took it. You don't get far in this business by saying no. He began to talk to me. He looked really stressed. He asked me how anything that feels good could be bad. He had a big painting of Oscar Wilde, and considered him to be a personal hero. He begun to explain hedonism to me, and he asked me if I understood. Of course I said, "Who doesn't like fun with lots of people?" He said, "Lots of people." Then he had me go about my duties.

I effed up really bad one evening, and entered one of the maintenance sheds to return some tools I've been using, and saw the sweaty, pale back of a large man, hunched over and thrusting. He had a tattoo of Nixon on his back and he was wearing a bull's head mask. He was
effing one of the regular staff members mouths. He turns to me, and I'm just standing in shock. And he says quite angrily, "Do you mind? What the fuck?
What?" And I slammed the door shut. And as I'm closing the door, I get a glimpse of my coworker's face, and he's crying.

I googled "Nixon back tattoo," and later realized that man was Roger Stone.

No, I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. What? Why? Why? I'm tired, man. I'm tired of this, bro. I'm tired of this shit.
What? What? It's real. This was 2019. This was 2019. Okay. And then this post was from 2020.

I later realized that man was Roger Stone, who I'd never even heard of until that point. I knew I was in deep shit. The next day, and for two weeks after, I got the worst jobs. Trash pickup, cleaning toilets, scrubbing his boats. It effing sucked. But I kept my mouth shut anyway. As far as I understood, my pay had not been cut whatsoever. So I thought, whatever, I'll do the shitty jobs ,where I'm by myself, because at least I'm by myself. That was fine by me. Every day is something just crazier than the last. It is actually insane. I'm not a good guy, but thank you. If this was the movies, The Punisher, or
whoever, would rip my spine out of my back, and I deserve it. I'm not a good guy.

Anyway, things started getting really tense on the island from that point on. People started making little comments to me about being nosy, or minding my own business. I was starting to get worried that I'd be branded a troublemaker, which you don't want to be. Things turn very quickly in this business. That's how they've kept a lid on it for so long. Any small mistake, and you're out. Most people are let go with NDAs, and the understanding that they will be watched the rest of their lives, which ultimately is how I got out as well.

After Epstein died, they cut me loose. I guess they figured that since he's dead, nothing I'd know would matter anyway. They're probably right. Honestly, it
probably won't matter anyway. But the rest of my time on that island was pure terror. I was just waiting to be taken away or worse. It never happened, but I was
still really scared.

I saw a few of their weird plays that they performed around the bath house. Mr. Epstein had a little portable stage he would set up. He would
wear the bulls-head, that I saw Roger Stone wearing, and give a big speech about what he called "freedom." He would say, "This island is the only free place in the whole world where everyone on it can do whatever they want." Not your employees! Not the children you bring here! Total shit! And everyone would cheer. They'd get up and do a sort of conga line with tiki torches -- really cringy old rich people -- and go into the bath house.

There's a trap door on the floor that has not been reported in any of the investigation photos I've seen. I've seen what they call "The
Chamber," and it's essentially a bondage dungeon. I don't know what happened in there, and I never want to know. I stayed
as far away from that house as I could.

Wait, so I see this going around. They're saying there was a trap door that opened straight into the ocean. And
people were saying that it was used to dump bodies. Snopes says it is more likely a door into a concrete water tank, to use as clean water for the island. This was a trap door inside Epstein's house that led straight to the sea. They were on an island surrounded by water, so why would they need a secret trap door to the sea? What?

So he posted the picture of Roger Stone with the Nixon thing. Oh my god. Okay, so he stayed away from the bath house. That is
ridiculous. That is ridiculous. He said,

I mean large, as in wide. He's a brick of a man. Pic related in the supply shed says he was taking up basically the entire doorway.

Oh my god. Make it stop.

So anyway, eventually I got my reputation for the most part back into his good graces, and I was working in the main houses again.

One time I was helping in the kitchen. I don't know if the Chef was effing with me. I hope so. But he was separating what looked to me like the torso of a very young skinned pig. It had been roasted, and he was chopping it into quarters: the ribs to be served that evening, and the rest broken down for soups and casseroles. I jokingly said that it looked like a little kid. He just gave me this awful dead-eyed look for a second, and said, "Watch it." I worked on that island for about a year.

In 2013, Mr. Epstein chose me, and two other trusted employees from the island, to come with him to a winter retreat in the Swiss Alps. He owned a billionaire-sized small "Cabin," again, "Mansion," and wanted people to know that he knew he could be trusted, because most of the staff would be local hires. Our job on the surface was to help manage all the employees, like supervisors basically, but the unspoken task would be keeping everyone either in the dark or quiet.

Mr. Epstein had a real fondness for plump, young, Swiss blondes. And the Swiss, as he would explain, have a very progressive idea regarding age of consent. He viewed this as a more relaxed way to do what he does, more casual.

Part of the thrill for these people, I think, is the fact that it is illegal, and they could get in big trouble. When
they go to places that are more friendly, with the idea of an older man having it on with 15-year-olds. to "take a break," so
to speak. The Alps themselves, wow. I mean, wow. I've been all over the United States, and nothing in this country compares to Europe in terms of sheer beauty. Sometimes in the early morning when I'd come out of my cabin, and stretch, looking at the trees, smelling the crisp, clean air for just a minute, I'd forget what I have done, and what I'm doing. When it came back to me, I'd have to fight back the tears. I want the mountains there to be the last thing I think about before I die.

So I've not been there three days, when me, and two men from the island, were doing bumps of coke off a butter knife, in the lower garage. A boy, maybe 14, skinny, blonde, pale, and nude, comes through the doorway right towards us. He's speaking French, but I think I got the gist of what he was saying. He was asking for help. He looked hysterical. And immediately, my two friends were out of there! And I shouldn't have been far behind. But I told him, "Calm down. Calm down. It's okay. I'm going to help you." I just wanted him to feel better. This all took maybe 30 seconds, before one of the nannies came in. He looked at her, confused, and I get the picture, he was trying to decide if she could be trusted. She couldn't. She shushed him, and put her jacket over him, and took his
hand. She was speaking French as well, and it sounded like a mother consoling a frightened child. She led him back into the house. I did not see him again. I
never mentioned it to anyone, and nobody ever mentioned it to me.

During my last couple of weeks there, I witnessed firsthand the murder of an independent journalist.

Oh, no. Oh no! Hey wait wait wait wait wait wait. Cancel the video. Delete the video. Delete everything. Delete everything.

I don't think he was actually a journalist. I think maybe he had a blog or a YouTube channel.

Shit! Shit! Damn it. Charlie Kirk.

But I'd never heard of him, and I don't know his name. I don't think he was anyone with any real connections. He was one of the local hires, a dishwasher, but he was seen with a cell phone out, possibly recording. Me and the other two from the island were asked to go check it out. So we go get the guy, and ask him to empty out his pockets. Sure enough, he's got a phone. We told him to unlock it. He wouldn't. One of the other guys made a call, came back, and slugged him directly in the nose. I think it broke it, because there was blood just pouring out, and the guy started screaming. I don't think he'd ever been hit before, but me and the other guy held him down. Fuck it! I'll say their names! It was Daniel Robinson from South Florida and Marcus Harper from Nevada. Marcus and I were holding him down, and Daniel punched him again and told him to unlock his phone. He complied this time, and sure enough, there were pictures and videos from inside the house.

We knew he hadn't sent anything out, because only wired connections work there. I guess they had signal jammers or something. Or maybe because it was just so remote. I don't know. Anyway, Daniel makes another call, and tells us to take him back outside into the woods. I think we're just going to threaten him, and
make him sign an NDA. But Daniel took off his belt and strangled him to death.

We had to put his body in an out-building, cuz the ground was frozen. We put him through a wood chipper, and then burned everything to ash. There were bits of charred bone left over. We swept it into a trash bag, and threw it out with the regular garbage.

This, above everything else, I feel the most guilty for.

This is the second half of the story actually. Oh my god!

After that, if I wasn't in before, I was definitely in now. Me, Marcus, and Daniel, the three effing
stooges from hell. Daniel had been in the military. I think he had a few screws loose, because he always had a temper. He became the go-to guy for the
really dirty stuff.

I started working for Mr. Epstein directly after this. He would confide in me sometimes, when he was very high, about how nothing really makes him feel good enough. He told me once that he hasn't felt happy in years. I wish I had the stones to tell him that this life he's living is only bringing him down. For a brief moment, I felt empathy for this man. I think that too was part of his game though. I don't think he has ever had a single genuine feeling in his life, outside of sexual gratitude. He never mentioned the journalist to me. It was like it never happened. But we both knew that was the reason I was now working directly for him.

Listen, I think I've said all I care to right now. I'm going to go and get a bottle of something before all the stores closed. If this thread is still here in a few hours, I'll answer questions, and tell some more stories. Ex Florida psycho.

Hey OP, is this your few screws loose ex army friend? Just a yes or a no and I'll keep working

.

Oh my god. Oh my god.

I don't think he was retarded at all. He was whip smart. I just don't think he had any emotional intelligence, maybe. I think he was hollow on the inside for the most part.

They called them plays and theater, but from my eyes, yeah, I would say the speeches and stuff I saw looked a lot like rituals. The bull's head mask was scary. I mean, it was a rubber mask for sure, but whoever spoke would wear it all night. And they would come up out The Chamber. The masked person would roam the island all night, and it was generally understood that you are to avoid them at all costs. When they wear the mask, they're like animals. They just wander around from one carnal satisfaction to the next. Food, sex, sometimes violence, whatever. And they can just do whatever they want. If they came to you, and told you to suck their dick, or whatever, you would have to do it. It never happened to me thankfully. But I made sure on those nights to stay out of sight.

-- Satyricon -- Illustrated Screenplay, directed by Federico Fellini

And that's the end of the most depraved thread I think I have ever seen in my entire life. What? What?

And so now for the comments, okay? it says,

ochayedunno

If you search 'Cole' in the Epstein emails, there's a short back and forth with Kathy Ruemmier where JE asks...

'does cole's replacement need confirmation?'

Just thought it would be worth a mention.

Here's a post about Cole.

American-pickle

Has anyone verified if this Cole had a previous DUI arrest?

CryptoNite90

And suspended license around that time.

captainhalfstash

Assuming it was not expunged? Idk if you can find after that, but rich people can always pay to make them go away.

muchbro

I mean if the information is publicly available then whoever wrote this could've looked it up for their story as well.

It'd need to be something he couldn't have known at the time.

Oh god.

jupiteriannights

The Cole Romney from the Jeffrey Epstein 4chan thread.

Don't, don't.

Fit_Heart_6121

We need to revisit this...

Upper_Wolverine_5818

lmao he totally did all of that i know plenty of mini cole romneys that are jhust as rich and wayyyy douchier that would let a girl od and not rlly care.

Lakatoos_00

It was real.

Evil won. Hell is real, and it's this earth.

And how do you know?

RevolutionaryElk6159

Look at the released emails they just put out. It shows the epstein def jam connection as well as Rihanna connection. No way this dude nailed 3 people In his story 6 years ago. Who even knew that epstein was connected to def jam.

Mammoth_Delay_1032

"Even if the story is fake, I still feel like it's probably a pretty accurate representation of what the
Epstein world was like, so maybe it doesn't really matter."

jupiteriannights

I guess I shouldn't have said it doesn't matter.

My god.

unlthsc.edu

... Story Time With A Dead Man section.

Oh my god. Has someone else done a video on this? Are they still alive? Are they still alive? Okay. Okay.

Someone else has covered this long ago.

Maverick Files

4 Times 4chan Warned The Internet.

Wow. I'm going to save that to watch later. Uh, crazy crazy.

Look, I could look into this another time. They're saying it's a real person. I won't sum up the article. You can read it yourself.

He said Cole was 22 at the time, and that part of the story takes place around 2011, so he'll be 31 in the article, which seems right. Although the dude in the article seems like the polar opposite of the guy described in the thread. Don't think a man child with seemingly no job who lays around in his pajamas all day staying up all night doing drugs with hookers would be an Air Force member, be attending medical school, and have a wife and kids, and also running a business with his wife. But according to the article, this all happened around 2017, several years after the incident in the story, so maybe he turned his life around later on.

What's this [link] going to be? Okay, this is just an email that says,

'does dole's replacement need confirmation?'

That you know, that's, hey, listen, that doesn't really prove anything.

Chemical-Agency-3997

Goldman Sachs's lawyer, White House council for Obama. Hmmm

... Mitt Romney has maintained long-term, close financial and professional ties with Goldman Sachs, which provided exclusive, high-level investment services and managed funds for his private wealth.

This is probably the strongest bit of evidence that points to it being legit.

Edit: it's likely a reference to James M Cole, who served as Deputy Attorney General until 2015.

dem0n0cracy

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/D ... 249655.pdf

The screenshot of this thread is in the Epstein files!

Sure is. Sure. This is actually in the files. So, you
can't say it's not my fault. I didn't come up with this. Okay. OP left out the
craziest part. The last post on 4chan this person made was 8 hours before Galain got arrested. That is insane.
That is insane. The investigators found it interesting. What did they say? Is this just the Is this the same thing?
It's just more threads. Eventually, I got trust with Bigger. This the same thing. So, this is in
subject to protective order. It is actually in the files. It's legitimately in the files. I love how one person said, "It's too silly to believe. If
only they knew. The names of the journalists could surely be verified um if they went missing." Says, "It's
literally how they got away with it. They behave nice in public and it's so insane in private that to tell about it makes the whistleblower look insane."
Wow. They also flagged a video sharing the post is deleted now.
4chan story X working for Epstein. No way. Oh man. Well, look, the files
have already clo they've already closed out the files, but this video could have been in the files. That's crazy. That's
actually crazy. From a memory, someone turned to text that was posted to 4chan in a YouTube video. It was then removed.
My god. So, just more screenshots of the video from YouTube in the files. That's
crazy. So, this is a comment basically summing up uh all of the things that apparently have been confirmed as true
that match up with the story from the actual properties. Epstein properties and physical features from the story.
Okay, it's not necessarily matched up. Um, but this is basically just summarizing all of the things. Epstein
had several bedrooms, a favorite bedroom, all this. We already know this stuff, right? Um, it says the full store
thing is true, although it was reported September 2019. I can't find the Oscar Wild painting. I feel like he went to the effort to read about the doors. He
would have also mentioned the painting of a woman that was in his office instead of Oscar Wild. 2025, it was revealed that Oscar Wild was on his
prison's reading list. The pictures of inside the temple or bath house are on Wikipedia.
Huh. Huh. Interesting. Intriguing.
Intriguing. Some very interesting pics. You
Wikipedia got the goods. I'm not going to lie. Wikipedia got the goods. Wow.
Looking for Oscar Wild painting. Little St. James. Little St. James is
the smaller of the two islands in the southeast of St. Thomas.
Man, I need to get rich enough so that I can have an island and we're just going to have nothing but good vibes. Nothing
but good vibes and good times and all adults. Just good adult fun on my
island. Okay, we're going to set things right. Look at the floor. It looks as if there might have been a trap door. The staff were desperately repaving it
perhaps after Epstein's death and they just ran out of money and abandoned the property. Google isn't finding me anything on this.
I found an email from Jeffrey to Valerie Post dated September the 13th, 2010 where Jeffree said, "Buying respectability is like the Oscar Wild
quote that says, "Sincerity is the most important characteristic, and once you fake that, you'll be fine." Wow. There's 11 images in this. You can
clearly see the fake doors. There's a platform and stage. I think this is the bath house. No visible trap door, but it could have easily had flooring or
furniture put over it. So, this is on a Daily Mail article. There's just a few more images. I think these are quite similar to images we've already seen.
Um, this kind of looking like a bit of a stage. That does actually make sense to me. It's actually so dark.
So dark. He purchased the island in 1998. This guy was rich for so long. It doesn't make any sense. Doesn't make any
sense. Mattresses that have appeared to left been left a rotten shrink wrap that has turned a shade of yellow.
Wow. Dark. It's dark. It's dark. People emails about masks. No, I don't want
that silver mask. I'm getting out of my doggy mask. This will be so cute. This doggy coming and going from the house.
Uh, yes, I agree. I sent an email to Elizabeth. He's in charge of sending the gift, asking her for a signature. I'll let you know it never arrived. I think
what you saw was the mask we all got at the ball. Just a plain white mask. Bunch of emails about mask. Screenshot
of YouTube comments asking about the bull mask. Wow.
Surprisingly believable. sends evidence to the worst press agencies that are probably in with Epstein.
They're saying that he's uh when you're rich and powerful. Um reminds me of that one movie, The
Conspiracy. Wouldn't surprise me if they had human hunting parties on the island and that temple's probably used for dark rituals. Full movie is on YouTube. The
cover is a guy in a red bull mask wearing a suit. The YouTube comments making it into the Epstein files is
absolutely wild. Oh my god. Oh my god. saying, "I wonder if this is the same
Daniel Robinson and Marcus Harper." Oh my good golly god. There we go. Tampa
man sentenced to 50 years for child exploitation offenses. Child swword exploitation offenses.
Donald Daniel Robinson, age 30, Tampa. He plead guilty in 2016.
I would have thought these guys were older, but maybe not. I mean, according to court records, the
Florida Department of Law Enforcement begun investigation after receiving numerous tips from the National Center of Missing and Exploited Children network concerning internet user at his
residents who distributed files containing cheese pizza through various social
networking websites. The agents raided his home. They found evidence on his phone that he
posed as a female online to coers children to create very bad things. He got a lengthy he got 50 years. That's
Daniel. And then this is the other mana man sentenced to life for sword
assaulting and pregnantating a a young Marcus Harper also aed 30 was facing
this is 2019 two counts of aggravated essay with a young two counts of essay of a young
life life in prison for each account brev
both posted before this story though the story is about before the arrest I assume
Man, people are saying, "Is he laughing based on publicly available details at the time?" My initial response to my
head was, "Cool, story, bro. Yeah, as believable as you try to make it, I get suspicious every time the account throws a spattering of celebrities you wouldn't
have expect that have zero history of essay in there for shock value." Like, if you copy and paste the cast of a
Marvel movie or Billboard top 10 and don't have the evidence to back it up, I'm not going to believe you. It's the same reason I tried to ignore the tip
line of the files and focus on the emails. This becoming a cultural phenomenon. It opens up too much room for trolls or nutcases to lop and have
fun. Too many Redditors have never even stepped foot in 4chan. You just see these posts and lap it up with not
knowing how much stuff is led. Lar meaning live action roleplay.
Um, yeah. Always wonder what that unlucky YouTuber might have been.
Makes it wonder how many people's disappearance can be linked to Epstein's network. If any of this is true, I don't even want to imagine. Did he mention how
the YouTuber got there? Must have missed it. didn't make sense to me. He was hired as a dishwasher. He got caught recording too many times. He was outed
as working on undercover when he wouldn't surrender the content. Both goons have such generic names, it's hard to confirm their identity.
I keep getting timed out on the DOJ, but there are emails about bringing along a wood chipper. Huh.
Here's a full narration on YouTube. We we I just did that. But here's an interesting comment that kind of uh makes people skeptical. It says, "The
one detail mentioned that makes me skeptical of the authenticity where the author stated was when Epstein was high, he opened up to him and had a deep
philosophical conversation. I've heard Epstein didn't drink or do drugs. Multiple sources says that man was against partaking in any mindaltering
substances. He'd stock his parties with every drug under the sun, but he would remain sober. People like him do not like feeling out of control. And I also
think he knew he had to always be alert, clear-headed so he didn't get caught up." They say maybe he got high when he
was alone and not partying with others. One of the names he's mentioning, Daniel
Richardson, the murder, shows up on a wire statement in the files, but it's mentioned as something else. Somebody
completely different. Gosh, that's nuts. It's crazy. Do you see this from six years back?
People are saying it's a lop back then. Real or lop? Supposed former driver and assistant to Epstein come forwards and tells all. If this is a lop, it's pretty
damn good. N out of 10, it's usually a lop. I like this. Not necessarily because
it's true, but it gets what I believe is the spirit of the truth. I'm imagining Epstein at the se seat of decadence and excess, staging bohemian grove style
rituals, con consecrating his own power, living without consequence, and yet totally empty inside. It encapsulates
everything rotten and evil inherent in wealth acquisition for its own sake, and shows us what the next generations must do differently if they want a more
peaceful and loving society. On X makes me immediately think he's
just a good storyteller. Oh god, here we go. There was a screenshot of Rihanna's name with alleged mis calls as epste did
a video on it. Oh my god, we've gone full circle. We have gone full c. We've broken through the meta. It's crazy.
Image five. Cole murder location. Street view cuts out before that point even though the satellite that's crazy.
I find the story plausible but highly highly unlikely. It should be fairly easy to corroborate the facts that we're not in the public record now. But yeah,
very creative and detailed. Unlikely. Um, I searched the word bull and got
tons of results. Yeah, no [ __ ] Um, how could he remember those exact coordinates? He probably zoomed in on
the place on maps he remembered and wrote down the coordinates. Said it's easy to do these days. It's crazy. I
only don't buy it on the fact that if you really did this work, you would be surely be able to prove it somehow, either with some picture or something,
message, screenshots, addresses, more specific names, some private info that certainly would come out later, but it doesn't provide any source of proof or
even try. The thing I'm tired of this nonsense. The thing that
um the thing that I think is interesting about this is I'm pretty sure that when
the guy posted on 4chan claiming that he worked in the prison and and that he was there when they you know faked Epstein's
death and snuck him out of the prison. I'm pretty sure they they tracked that guy down. They they subpoenaed whatever
they did. They subpoenaed 4chan. They subpoenaed someone else. Um they got his bank account records. They got his
location. They got his real name. Why haven't they done that with this? Why haven't they done that
with this? Um, this reads like fanfiction. Yes, this 4chan post is included in the files, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's true. The part
where he talked about getting high with Epstein was the final straw. Never has anybody else suggested that Epstein had a proclivity for drugs. I feel like
maybe that is it. All right, the rest is ridiculous, but within the realm of possibility. It's hard to conceptualize a lot of this stuff cuz the goalposts
are constantly shifting and more and more information gets revealed. Bigger picture comes into focus. First, he was a PDF Rword. Then it was revealed who
was trafficking these girls. um to other men and women. There's talk of force surrogacy, potentially a black
market for babies. It's just getting out of control. It gets really outlandish. All right. If the form was true, it's
plausible that he or his co-conspirators would plant outlandish. Is this the uh is this the FBI telling
me to shut up? I think this is the FBI telling me to be quiet. Um anyway, all right, we get the gist. I
think I don't doubt that the chef was cooking
up something sinister. I found this when searching the keyword baby. Uh, do I even want to see this? Yeah, this has been going going around a bit. This is
um lol. I don't know if cream cheese and baby are still on the same level. It's okay. There's still enough time today. I'm trying to schedule priming for 4
5:30 fuel explosion. 9:45 p.m. will bring a new engine startup video. There
are millions of babies. Very good vegetable cream cheese. Very little good vegetable cream cheese. Cre
baby. I don't even want to know. I don't even want to know. People saying they don't buy it. Mitt Romney doesn't show up in
the files at all other than his articles. Practically a choir boy except for putting his dog on top of his car and he's from Utah, not Colorado. Big
difference. Uh, one's a hyperconservative LDS state. The other's a very liberal, non-religious state.
Cole Romney is Mit's second cousin, twice removed. They don't even appear to hang out. Cole's never been arrested for drink driving. He's a fourth year
medical student with two kids in 2020. Looks like he's straight out of the books of Mormon. Plus, he was a former Air Force officer. Nothing about this
seems true. I believe this was confirmed to be fake. It's an awful lot. Um, it's
been floating about for years. The two guys he named dropped when telling the story about finding the Swiss guy with a phone. He name dropped these guys before
Daniel Robinson went missing well before I don't know how much information about that guy was available. Around the time this was created back in 2019 or 2020. I
believe this was debunked as fake. Someone did a podcast about it and the person who wrote this confessed.
I I I would love for somebody to just post a link to to something to be like, "Yeah, this is absolute proof this isn't
true." But I'm not sure I'm believing it. The same Roger Stone isn't that big. All right.
Anyone from Switzerland can tell us if the disappearing of a dishwasher was ever reported to the authorities.
I I think we've seen enough people saying it looks like a well-ritten story. Take it with a huge
chunk of salt cuz it's from 4chan. That was a fun read. Okay, I'm scared. I am
scared. Okay, let me know what you think down in the comments. I am really tired of this stuff, but also like I can't put
it down. And look, I appreciate I was going to stop talking about this, but I'm seeing all the people in the comments saying that this is one of the
most important stories of this generation, and they're appreciating the perspective that I'm bringing. They're appreciating me keeping this story
alive, um, and digging deeper into things. So, I'm just going to keep going, okay? I'll do a few more videos
on this, maybe tomorrow, uh, maybe today. I've got two other videos I want to do on completely different topics, okay? So, stay tuned for those. Thank
you for watching and trusting me as your new source. It really means a lot to me. Um, if you like my work and you want to see me talk about all random stuff, go
and subscribe to my main channel, Trap Loros. I just did a video about Mr. Beast. Super random. Um, but I know some of you guys are enjoying that. It's
definitely a lot of people saying that video is getting hidden, which is weird. They're pushing the Epstein stuff, but they're hiding the Mr. Beast stuff. Hey,
I don't know what that's all about, but um, appreciate you watching that. Okay, check out my new channel, Influencers Exposed, if you want to see me breaking
down influencer drama. A little bit different, but I'm doing that now on another channel, and I will have a new
video on there very soon. So, thank you for watching. I'm scared. I'm going to go and hide. Catch you in the next video.

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Part 1 of 5

LIVE: AG Pam Bondi Testifies Before Congress
Legal AF
Feb 11, 2026

Legal AF provides live coverage of the House Judiciary Committee, as part of DOJ Oversight, compelling Attorney General Pam Bondi to publicly testify under oath.



Transcript

We welcome everyone to today's hearing on oversight of the Department of Justice. The chair now recognizes the
gentleman from Wisconsin, Mr. Tiffany, to lead us in the pledge of allegiance.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. We'll begin with opening statements. The
chair is now recognized 18 cities, 11 states, excuse me, three counties, and
the District of Columbia are sanctuary jurisdictions, accounting for 31% of the
population in this country. 31% of the American people, almost one-third of the
American people live in a city, county, or state where the left-wing leadership tells local law enforcement not to work
with federal law enforcement. Now, what does that mean in practice? Let's look at Abraham Gonzalez, who on September
20th, 2023 was arrested by Border Patrol for illegally entering the United States.
And of course, the Biden administration released him into the country. 5 months
later, February 26, 2024, Mr. Gonzalez is charged with assault. Two weeks
later, March 11th, 2024, he's charged with felony motor vehicle theft. Stole a
car. And on March 20th, 2024, nine days later, he's arrested by the Denver
police and placed in the Denver Justice Center. Six days, uh, six days later, March
22nd, 2024, ICE sends a detainer notice to the Denver Justice Center saying
this, if you're going to release Mr. Gonzalez, can you give us a heads up?
Can you let us know maybe 48 hours before you're going to release this guy so we can come apprehend him there at
the jail? And remember, a detainer is a final order of removal from a court
where this individual or this individual's committed some removable offense. But on February 28th, 2025,
Abraham Gonzalez is released to the streets. In fact, we can put that up. I think you can see this released. We got
the form from the det uh Denver Justice Center. What kind of inmate was Mr. Gonzalez for
those 345 days that he was in the Denver Justice Center? We have that too.
Violent to the staff, keep separate. So this guy was so bad you had to keep him
away from other inmates. He had already assaulted some staff member. But Denver released this guy to the
streets and let instead of turning over to ICE agents who would have come to the jail and arrest him there. And of
course, we all know what happens when the officers did apprehend Mr. Gonzalez
out on the street. He assaulted one of the officers. This is what happens when you have a
sanctuary jurisdiction. Right now in Minnesota, there are 1,360 detainer notices for violent offenders. Governor
Walls and others have released 470 criminal illegal aliens back to the
streets. In New York State, it's 7,000. Nationwide, it's over 17,000 that we
know of. where a detainer was filed. Since President Trump's been in office, over 17,000 times a detainer was filed.
And those individuals were released to the streets instead of turned over to federal law enforcement. 17,864
times. Illegals who've been charged with the crime have been released released to the streets and thereby jeopardizing the
safety of the public, the safety of law enforcement, and of course the migrant
themselves. and frankly helping create the environment that results in the tragic
deaths like we saw with Miss Good and Mr. Prey. Few years ago, Governor Sarah
Huckabe Sanders said this in response to the State of the Union address. She said, "The divide in America today is
normal versus crazy." And it's true because it's crazy not to have a border,
which is what we had out of the previous administration. It's crazy to abolish ICE. And it's crazy to release bad guys who are here illegally to the streets
when with one phone call, federal law enforcement will come to the jail and
pick them up. The mindset, the mindset that says it's okay to release these guys is the same
left-wing mindset that thinks it's okay to weaponize government against your political opponents. And that is exactly
what we had in the previous Justice Department. The Biden Harris Department of Justice called parents domestic
terrorists. The Biden Harris Justice Department used FBI SWAT teams to arrest
pro-life advocates. The Biden Harris DOJ targeted traditional Catholics. The
Biden Harris DOJ pressured social media companies to censor Americans. And the Biden Harris Justice Department launched
not one but two investigations into President Trump, spending over $35
million to try to bring down their political opponent. To further this
effort, they sought the phone records of over a dozen Republican members of Congress. Even the Democrats said this
was wrong. They got bank records for scores of White House officials. They even paid at least one confidential human source $20,000 for information on
President Trump. And of course, while doing all this, they couldn't tell us who planted the pipe bombs, who leaked
the DOB's opinion, and who put cocaine in the White House. But thank goodness, the American people saw through it all. Americans were tired
of being targeted for their beliefs, tired of the lawfare, tired of the rampant crime throughout this country. And that's why they overwhelmingly
elected President Trump. And what a difference a year makes. What a difference a year makes. Under Attorney
General Bondi, the DOJ has returned to its core missions. Upholding the rule of law, going after the bad guys, and
keeping Americans safe. The Trump Justice Department has restored the rule of law. Murders are down nationwide by
20%. In DC, violent crime is down by 28%. The federal surge in DC resulted in
8,000 arrests, the seizure of 800 illegal guns, and the recovery of 16 missing kids.
Trump Justice Department apprehended a suspect in the pipe bomb investigation. And they've arrested six of the FBI's 10
or top 10 most wanted fugitives in just one year. Of course, they arrested narot terrorist Nicholas Maduro and they
seized a record number of drugs flowing into this country. Trump Justice Department put an end to
targeting Americans for their beliefs. Attorney General Bondi rescended. Attorney General Garland's anti-parent
memorandum. Department adjusted ended the practices of using the face act to target pro-life
Americans. They've refused to tolerate attacks on places of worship and investigations of traditional Catholics
that we saw in the previous administration. On her first day, Attorney General Bondi disbanded the foreign influence task force that was
pressuring social media companies to censor Americans. And the Trump Justice Department has
ended lawfare under Attorney General Bondi along with Director Patel. They've worked to expose the political nature of
Artic Frost and the Jack Smith investigations. They've turned over hundred of pages of
documents to Congress. And that's why we know, for example, that Mr. Smith paid at least $20,000 to some confidential
human source. That's why we know that Jack Smith knew it was unconstitutional seek to tollre records from members. But
since the litigation risk was low and because members would never find out about the subpoena until years later,
they charged ahead and violated the constitution. The Trump Justice Department has changed DOJ policy to
require prosecutors to tell judges if NDOS's relate to members of the separate
and equal branch of government, the Congress. And to top it all off, the Trump Justice Department opened an
investigation into the conspiracy behind the Russia collusion hoax.
Justice Department has put common sense ahead of politics. They sued to keep boys out of girls sports. They secured deals with universities to stop
race-based admissions and anti-Semitic practices. Then after discovering rampant fraud in Minnesota,
Justice Department under the leadership of Attorney General Bondi has established a new national fraud division. In fact, I met with Colin
McDonald who will head that division last week. I think he's going to do a great job. Uh there's a lot of work to
be done in that area. But I want to thank the attorney general for her great
work in the first year on the job and I want to thank you for being here. With that, I would yield to the ranking member for an opening statement.
Thank you kindly, Mr. Chairman, and welcome, Attorney General Bondi. You've got the best lawyer's job in America
because your mission is justice and your clients are the American people. But to
promote justice for the people, you've got to listen to the victims like the women seated behind you today. Those are
just some of the hundreds of survivors of Jeffrey Epstein's global sex trafficking ring who are demanding that
the truth be told and are demanding accountability for the abusers who
traffked and raped them. You still haven't met with these survivors. So,
with their permission, let me introduce to you the survivors and late survivors family members who are present today.
There's Terresa Helm. There's Jess Michaels. Laura Bloom McGee, Danny
Benski, Liz Stein, Marina Lassera, Sky and Amanda Roberts, who are the family
of the late Virginia Duayra, Charlene Rashard, and Lisa Phillips. Now, you're
not showing a lot of interest in the victims, Madam Attorney General. Whether it's Epstein's human trafficking ring or
the homicidal governmental violence against citizens in Minneapolis, as attorney general, you're siding with the
perpetrators and you're ignoring the victims. That will be your legacy unless
you act quickly to change course. You're running a massive Epstein cover up right
out of the Department of Justice. You've been ordered by subpoena and by Congress to turn over 6 million documents,
photographs, and videos in the Epstein files, but you've turned over only three million. You say you're not turning over
the other three million because they're somehow duplicative, but we know that there are actual memos of victim
statements in there. And you also took down the Department of Justice's prosecution memo from 2019. So, it's
clearly not all duplicative. But even if it were, why not release it? Just release all the duplicative stuff. In
the half you did produce, you redacted the names of abusers, enablers,
accompllices, and co-conspirators, apparently to spare them embarrassment
and disgrace, which is the exact opposite of what the law ordered you to do. Even worse, you shockingly failed to
redact many of the victims names, which is what you were ordered to do by Congress. Some of the victims had come
forward publicly, but many had not. Many had kept their torment private, even
from family and friends. But you published their names, their identities,
their images on thousands of pages for the world to see. So you ignored the law
and even with over a 100,000 employees at your disposal, you acted with some
mixture of staggering incompetence, cold indifference, and jaded cruelty towards
more than 1,000 victims raped, abused, and trafficked. This performance screams
cover up. Convicted sex trafficker and groomer Glaine Maxwell opened the gates
of hell to Virginia Drew Freay and hundreds of other victims as Virginia recorded in her remarkable book Nobody's
Girl. But when Maxwell was subpoenaed to come testify before Congress, you and
Todd Blanch quickly moved her from a higher security prison to a minimum
security camp in Texas where she's enjoyed five-star treatment, including catered meals, private gym time, and
access to a therapy puppy. All because Todd Blanch, who's utterly failed to
investigate the monstrous crimes of Epstein and Maxwell's co-conspirator, spent nine hours with Maxwell and
satisfied himself that she would have nothing unourred to say about Donald Trump, which is your only real interest
in the matter based on institutional performance. But abandoning victims and
coddling perpetrators is what you do best when the FBI opened a criminal investigation into the brutal killing in
Minneapolis of Renee Good, a poet and 37year-old mother of three by Trump's masked paramilitary ICE agents. You shut
it down. You claim you're investigating the cold-blooded murder of Alex Prey, an ICU nurse at the VA. But how can we
trust the administration when the president and Christy Gnome call Freddy a domestic terrorist and Steven Miller
called him a wouldbe assassin? Not only do you refuse to share evidence with the state and local investigators and
prosecutors in Minnesota, you have blocked their access to the crime scene and the evidence. How are you seeking
justice for Marimar Martinez, the Monasuri school teacher in Chicago who was shot five times by a border patrol
agent who bragged about it on text. Or the family of Keith Porter, a father of
two shot and killed by an offduty ICE agent in LA. Or the family of Sylio Vieas Gonzalez shot and killed in
Illinois minutes after he dropped his kids off at school. There's no sign of
any movement at the Department of Justice. You even launched a criminal investigation into Renee Good's grieving
widow. How sick is that? But it's even worse. You've turned the People's
Department of Justice into Trump's instrument of revenge. Trump orders up
prosecutions like pizza and you deliver every time. He tells you to go after James Comey, Leticia James, Lisa Cook,
and Jerome Powell, the head of the Federal Reserve Board, and members of Congress like Adam Schiff, Mark Kelly,
Alyssa Slotkin, Chrissy Hulahan, Jason Crowe, Chris Duzio, and Maggie Goodlander to name a few, and you snap
to it. You replace real prosecutors with counterfeit stooges who robotically do
the president's bidding. Nothing in American history comes close to this complete corruption of the justice
function and contamination of federal law enforcement. And the good news is many serious lawyers at DOJ, including
some of your own original employees, have refused your lawless orders.
Danielle Sassoon, your original pick for acting US attorney in Manhattan, resigned rather than follow your corrupt
order to quash an indictment against Mayor Eric Adams as a political favor from Donald Trump. A Federalist Society
member who clerked for Justice Scalia, US Attorneys soon refused to participate in this blatantly corrupt scheme. her
top assistant, Hagen Scottton, an Iraqi war vet and two-time Bronze Star recipient who clerked for Chief Justice
Roberts and then Judge Kavanaaugh, promptly resigned, too, writing to your office, quote, "I expect you will
eventually find someone who is enough of a fool or enough of a coward to file
your motion, but it was never going to be me." You and the president nominated Eric Sebert, a 15-year career
prosecutor, to be your US attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia.
But after five months of investigating Leticia James and James Comey, he found no evidence to justify criminal charges.
So you forced him out. You replaced him with Lindseay Halligan, Trump's personal lawyer from the Mara Lago documents
case, who had zero prosecutorial experience and no qualifications. And then you were humiliated when a federal
judge found that this corrupt appointment was blatantly unlawful and threw out Halligan's indictments
entirely. And grand juries of American citizens have repeatedly rejected your vendettas and baseless indictments
brought by the hacks left at DOJ. Now with two different grand juries in Virginia voting down indictments against
Leticia James in a single week. And just yesterday, another grand jury shut down
your vendetta factory by rejecting indictments against the six members of Congress who had spoken out to remind
all service members that they have a duty to refuse illegal orders. You tried
to get a grand jury to indict six members of Congress who were veterans of our armed forces on charges of sedicious
conspiracy simply for exercising their First Amendment rights. I hope you will
heed the wisdom and the constitutional patriotism of those grand jurors and not try it again by doubling down on that
humiliation as your best lawyers are sacked for having participated in the January 6 case or just flee for the
exits now your new lawyers keep lying in court in dozens of cases they've been excoriated for lying to federal judges.
Chief Judge Boseberg right here in DC suggested your department of justice perpetrated a fraud on the court. Other
judges found your statements to be quote inexplicably misleading, patently incredible, totally inconsistent, and so
disingenuous that the court is left with little confidence that the government can be trusted to tell the truth about
anything. Now, as ranking ch ranking member, uh I ask the chairman to add a
few extra rounds of questions today because we each have five hours of questions, not five minutes, but we're
stuck with five minutes. That's clearly insufficient to give voice to America's victims and survivors and to demand
answers about all the corruption and cover-ups that we see at DOJ right now. We've got just one round. So, we ask you
politely but firmly, Madam Attorney General, please do not waste one second
of our precious time by evading questions, by changing the subject or
engaging in personal attacks against members of Congress. We saw your performance in the Senate and we're not
going to accept that. This isn't a game. In the Senate, you brought something with you called a burn book, a binder of
smears to attack members personally for doing the people's work of oversight.
Please set the burn book aside and answer our questions. And when you hear us reclaim our time, that means it's
time for you to stop speaking. We only have five minutes, so when we reclaim our time, that means you stop. And if
you don't, we will ask the chair to stop the clock and let you go on his time. The quality of justice in America
depends on the character of our government. Please do your job and bring the Department of Justice back from the
brink. The survivors seated behind you and the American people watching everywhere deserve a Department of
Justice worthy of its name. I yield back, Mr. Chair. Without objection, all of the opening statements will be included in the
record. We will now introduce today's witness. The Honorable Pamela J. Bondi has served as the attorney general of
the United States since February 5th, 2025. She previously served in the office of the White House counsel, two
terms as the Florida Attorney General, and spent more than 18 years as a prosecutor. We welcome our witness and
thank her for appearing today. We will begin by swearing you in. Would you please rise and raise your right hand?
Do you swear or affirm under penalty of perjury that the testimony you're about to give is true and correct to the best of your knowledge, information, and
believe so help you God? I do. Let the record show that the witness has answered in the affirmative. Thank you. You can be seated and please know that
your written testimony will be entered into the record in its entirely entirety accordingly. We ask that you summarize
uh your testimony. Madame Attorney General, you may begin. Thank you.
Thank you, Chairman Jordan, Ranking Member Rascin, and distinguished members of this committee. Thank you for hosting
me here today. I'm grateful for the opportunity to answer your questions, highlight the work of our department,
and discuss the most important topic of all, keeping the American people safe. A
little over a year ago, I was sworn into office as 87th Attorney General of the United States. I came into office with a
goal of refocusing the Department of Justice on its core mission after years
of bloated bureaucracy and political weaponization. The Department of Justice's core mission
is to fight violent crime, protect the American people, and defend the rule of
law above all else. While our work is never done, we have made tremendous
progress to make America safe again. In 2025, we saw the lowest murder rate in
125 years. That's nothing short of historic.
If you compare 25 to 24, here's what you'll find. The murder rate is down
21%. Robbery down 23%. Carjacking down 43%.
Gun assault down 22%. A assault, burglary could go on and on.
Crime is declining. This did not happen by accident. The
numbers tell an important yet straightforward story. President Trump has given us the resources, the support,
and the leadership to protect the American people. President Trump's
policies have saved lives. I cannot think of a policy outcome more
important than protecting the lives of American citizens. Can you? This trend
has been especially clear in Washington DC and in Memphis. These are two iconic
American cities that spent years in the grip of horrific violent crime. The
Department of Justice surged law enforcement resources and the results came quickly. Crime plummeted in both
cities. And I want to make one point loud and clear. We achieved those
results by working with Democratic mayors. Public safety
does not have a party registration. When your constituents call 911, they don't
ask for political views of the responding officer. They ask for help. I
have federal agents in each and every one of your districts. They are here to
help. And I am here to help. Many cities and states have worked with
us and taken advantage of our federal support. Some have not. Meanwhile, a few
elected officials have declared that they are quote at war with the federal government and encouraged widespread
obstruction of law enforcement. This has resulted in avoidable clashes
on the streets. As you've all seen, we've seen rioters storming a Christian
church. Citizens and law enforcement officers have both been endangered by reckless
rhetoric. We have made dozens of arrests in and around Minneapolis so far, and
many of them could have been avoided by simple compliance with federal law. Of
course, our efforts reach beyond our urban centers. We are striking crucial
blows against terrorist organizations such as MS-13, TDA, the Sinaloa cartel, and Antifa. And
as we sit here, I think you've seen the news this morning. The news is reporting
that cartel drones are being shot down by our military. That's what we all
should care about right now, protecting America
as we seek to dismantle these drug trafficking networks that poison Americans. In 2025, our DEA agents
seized more than 47 million fentanyl pills
and more than 9,800 total kilos of fentanyl.
That represents 369 million potentially deadly doses that
can kill Americans. Meanwhile, our attorneys are fighting
for President Trump's agenda in courtrooms across this country. This administration has been sued 627 times.
We fought through a non-stop flood of bad faith temporary restraining orders
from liberal activist judges across this country. America has never seen this
level of coordinated judicial opposition towards a presidential administration.
It is not only an unlawful attack on the executive branch's authority, but a serious attack on the democratic
process. In spite of this unprecedented judicial activism, we've attained 24 favorable
rulings at the US Supreme Court, their emergency docket, and even more to
come. We've done so while ending the weaponization of the prior administration by dropping face act
prosecutions, exposing the Arctic frost scandal via congressional disclosure.
Thank you, chairman. and restoring one tier of justice in this country.
To address the Epstein files, more than 500 attorneys and reviewers spent
thousands of hours painstakingly reviewing millions of pages to comply
with Congress's law. We've released more than 3 million pages, including 180,000
images, all to the public, while doing our very best in the time frame allotted
by the legislation to protect victims. And if you brought us a victim's name
that was inadvertently released, we immediately redacted it. All members of
Congress, as you know, are invited to visit DOJ to see for yourselves.
I want to take a moment to acknowledge the Epstein survivors who are here today.
I'm a career prosecutor and despite what the ranking member said, I have spent my
entire career fighting for victims and I will continue to do so. I am deeply
sorry for what any victim any victim has been through, especially as a result of
that monster. If you have any information to share with law enforcement
about anyone who has hurt you or abused you, the FBI is waiting to hear from
you. I want you to know that any accusations of criminal wrongdoing will be taken
seriously and investigated. The Department of Justice is committed
to holding criminals accountable to the fullest extent of the law. In 2025, the
FBI arrested over 1,700 child predators, a 10% increase from
2024. We also located 2700
victims of child exploitation and shut down 3.8 million dark web pedophile
accounts. 3.8 million. So please, if you have information to
share that needs to be investigated, contact the FBI.
Today, I look forward to discussing further our shared obligation to protect
the American people, uphold the rule of law, and keep this nation safe. Thank
you. Uh thank you, Madam Attorney General. The chair now, we now present the five-minute rule. The chair recognizes
gentleman from California for five minutes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Madame General, uh, thank you for your extensive
remarks, particularly on your continued investigation of those responsible over
the years in the Epstein debacle. Obviously, you have an amazingly full docket uh
between civil rights, between criminal, between so-called white collar crime,
and doing so, as the chairman said, at a time in which both you and the president
are under attack and our ICE agents and FBI and others are under attack when they try to enforce the law. I
personally want to apologize for those who would in in em inbolden, support or
even uh stand with those lawb breakakers that sit on this and other deases here
in Congress. My job generally is to talk about
patents and trademarks as the uh the chairman of that subcommittee. I'll forgo that today because one of my other
jobs is uh the creation and maintenance of article 3 judges and I work with the
chief justice on that and we're trying to expand the court but currently there are only 677 district court judges. They
have very full dockets as well but you create a tremendous amount of judges
particularly immigration judges. you do so in order to save the court that but
adjudicate as is requirement uh each of those people who claim a
right to be here in the United States and that has been going on under Republican and Democratic
administrations for years. What's unique about the Trump administration this time
is that you and President Trump have managed to reduce the backlog of people
seeking that for the first time in decades. You are getting ahead of that tremendous backlog that caused for
better or worse the release of millions of people with little pieces of paper saying come back later when we call you
and often to no avail when you call. So, I want to congratulate you on that because it's an accomplishment you might
not take credit for and the other side would never give you credit for,
but I hope you can continue to do that and do more. And I say so for a reason
because much of this uh hearing will be about Minneapolis and other places in which
the backlog of criminal aliens including in my home state of California, people
who have hurt other people who people who have victimized their communities is
extensive. And although the overall number through adjudication may be going
on, because of places like my home state, California, you're unable to
apprehend people that my sheriffs want apprehended. They desperately want to
cooperate and they're prohibited by law. It is this committee's opinion on this side of the aisle that in fact you
should be given the ability to demand that uh that participation and that the
release of a known criminal not be uh considered to be acceptable just because
a state or city has declared itself a sanctuary. I want you to opine on just
one thing that I think has been misunderstood. As I said earlier, you
create and maintain that those judges that adjudicate these cases. You also
support uh you also support so many that in fact
uh have to make decisions as judges knowing that this limitation of so few
article 3 judges are there. Please educate those who seem to miss the point
that Article One judges, including bankruptcy judges, including immigration judges, including lots of people with
the title appropriately judge do in fact issue documents that look like, act
like, and are normally accepted as warrants, as subpoenas, as demands for
state officials to stand aside and allow the production of either an individual
or documents because I think people are missing the point that these ICE retainers and detainers and so on, they
act like they're nothing when in fact in the ordinary course uh madam general you
do in fact have article one judges constantly putting those out and they are respected normally.
Thank you, Congressman, for um for talking about all the the great judges. And if I could um add one thing to that,
we are always recruiting and looking for judges. So, please reach out to our
office for these judges who are handling all these very important matters. We're we're we've even added some JAG um JAG
officers as immigration judges. Thank you. And so we're continuing to do that, but we're always seeking qualified
lawyers as well to be part of that. And thank thank you for highlighting that, Congressman.
Thank you. I yield back. Gentleman yields back. The gentle lady from Washington's recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning,
Attorney General Bondi right here. Uh we are joined in this room by some of the
thousands of survivors from Jeffrey Epstein's horrific sex trafficking ring.
They have shown such incredible courage in speaking out in demanding
accountability to bring the predators and pedophiles to justice. The Epstein
Files Transparency Act required your Department of Justice to disclose the perpetrators connected with Epstein's
criminal activities and to redact the information of survivors to protect
their identities. Let me show you what actually happened. First, in violation
of the law, your department has shown a pattern of redacting the names of
powerful predators. Here behind me is one example of an email from Epstein to
a man whose name was redacted. The email reads, quote, "Where are you? Are you
okay? I loved the torture video." Only after members of Congress demanded
that we see the unredacted files did the world learn the name of this individual,
Sultan Alhmed bin Sulam, the chairman and CEO of a company that had financial
ties to President Trump's business and personal ties to Trump's adviser Steve
Bannon. Second, the survivors were not similarly protected, also in violation
of the law. Here is another email titled Epstein victim list. We have blurred the
names of the survivors for their protection, but your Department of Justice initially released this list of
32 survivors names with only one name redacted along with numerous files that
disclose not only the names, the emails, and the addresses of survivors, but also
nude photographs and even the identities of Jane Doe's who had been protected for
decades until your department released their names. Survivors are now telling
us that their families are finding out for the first time that they were trafficked by Epstein. In their words,
quote, "This release does not provide closure. It feels like a deliberate
attempt to intimidate survivors, punish those who came forward, and reinforce
the same culture of secrecy that allowed Epstein's crimes to continue for
decades." To the survivors in the room, if you are willing, please stand.
And if you are willing, please raise your hands if you have still not been
able to meet with this Department of Justice.
Please know for the record that every single survivor has raised their hand.
Attorney General Bondi, you apologize to the survivors in your
opening statement for what they went through at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein. Will you turn to them now and apologize
for what your Department of Justice has put them through with the un
absolutely unacceptable release of the Epstein files and their
information.
Congresswoman, you sat before Mer Merritt Garland sat in this chair
twice. Attorney General Bond finish my answer. No, I'm going to reclaim my time
because I asked you this attorney specific question. Attorney General to answer which is will you turn to the
survivors? This is not about anybody that came before you. It is about you taking responsibility for your
Department of Justice and the harm that it has done to the survivors who are
standing right behind you and are waiting for you to turn to them and
apologize for what your Department of Justice is. Members members get to ask the questions. The witness gets to answer in
the way they want to answer the attorney general. That's not accurate, Mr. Chairman, because she doesn't like the answer. So,
um, Mr. Mr. Chairman, I have asked and she asked Merritt Garland this
I am reclaiming my will. The gentle lady has reclaimed her time.
Get in the gutter for her theatrics. The time belongs to the time belongs to the gentle lady. The gentle lady has 17
seconds. Thank you. You're not going to answer this question. So, let me just I'll direct it
to What a massive answer. Will you restore her time? The witnesses are up with this
woman. Stop that. Let me have my gentle lady. The gentle lady from Washington controls the time. The gentle
lady has 17 seconds. You can you can uh proceed with your final 17 seconds. What a massive cover up this has been
and continues to be. Donald Trump made the release of the Epstein files the center of his political campaign because
he thought it would benefit him. Then you got into office attorney general claimed to have a client list and say
that there was no list. Your deputy Todd Blanch met alone
Maxwell. Time of the gentle lady has expired to a minimum security prison. And now you continue the conversation
that you would turn around to the survivors who are standing right behind you and on a human level. Chairman now
recognizes the gentleman for what you have done. Time is time of the gentle. The gentle lady, you have no time to yel back. We
appreciate that. We appreciate the thought. Um the um and I would argue the
central issue in the last election, the presidential election, was securing the border. The gentleman from Arizona who knows something about securing the
border is up for five minutes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Attorney General Bondi, for being here
today. In in 2022, Lafarge, which is a French cement company, plead guilty in
US federal court to participating in a criminal conspiracy with ISIS. That
conspiracy contributed to the deaths of US service members fighting in Syria during Operation Inherent Resolve. As
part of the plea agreement, Lafarge was required to pay more than $775 million to DOJ's asset forfeiture fund. In
February 2025, my colleagues and I sent you a letter urging the department to review the petitions for remission
submitted uh by the families of those fallen service members, including several of my constituents. The previous
administration ignored these victims and our requests and left their petitions unresolved. My question for you on this
particular issue is if you're willing to work to ensure those families that their petitions will be remove, excuse me,
reviewed and brought to a resolution. Congressman, we are aware of that and
we're committed to doing everything we can to support the victims and work with you. Thank you for that question.
Yeah, I appreciate your answer. And now let's go to something that is also pressing that I've been working on for
years. And this is the FISA section 702 and and Arctic Frost. In January 2025,
you testified before the US Senate and agreed with Senator Lee that quote, "Anytime an American citizen's private
communications are intercepted or stored, whether through incidental collection, otherwise those
communications should not be searched without some showing of probable cause." Close quote. You you still have hold
that view today, I assume. Yes. And um during the most recent FISA
reauthorization, I offered an amendment to establish a clear warrant requirement for searches of Americans data while
preserving every publicly cited operational exception, including emergencies, defensive queries, cyber
security threats, and my intent was to ensure the Department of Justice could continue to keep Americans safe while
also ending warrantless searches of US persons data. Are there any additional circumstances or exceptions that you
believe must be included to ensure DOJ can continue to operate effectively while still uh protecting American
citizens data and privacy? Yeah, Congressman, we are committed to working with Congress to uncover
weaponization and other misconduct by Jacksmith, by others, Arctic Frost,
everything that happened under the past administration. And um we are committed
to working with you on that and we are working with Chairman Jordan, with the
House Intel, with all of our uh my fellow cabinet members on resolving that
issue. Well, thank you. And I'm glad you brought up Arctic Frost because section 702 was used in the Arctic Frost
investigation. It was. And uh information derived was used by special counsel Jack Smith. Um, and my
question has always been, and no one's been able to answer this, is what was the legal predicate for using a foreign
intelligence authority in the Arctic Frost investigation. Have you been able
to ascertain any legal predicate? Congressman, what what I can tell you
today is that has been referred to my office. I can't discuss anything
regarding that because it is very active and ongoing. And you probably can't
answer this one either, but I I really want to know if section 702 queries related to that matter involved members
of Congress, which we know and some level it did. Uh congressional staff, which we know at some level did. We've
heard that journalists or other US persons not suspecting of acting as foreign agents were also caught up in
that. Can you answer that question and say whether queries uh did cover all those those groups I just identified?
It is a very active pending investigation within my office. However, I believe many members of Congress have
stated that their phones were um were part of Arctic Frost. We are well aware
of that and we are taking this very seriously and this is a very active
investigation. And I would keep going and say if any member of of the Democrat party, if any of them, if that had
happened to them, we would take that just as serious as we do, and they
should be jumping up and down, screaming, supporting you and what you
want to do because this should be a bipartisan issue. Well, I hope it is a bipartisan issue.
Um and uh you know I'll just leave with these last couple of questions which I I'm sure I'll fall into the same
investigation privilege but that's this how many such queries were actually conducted
overall this is outside artic frost in the prior year by by the FBI or other intelligence community and particularly
we really need to know what were what were the legal standards applied did they use probable cause did they use
reasonable articulable suspicion or did they have no individualized suspect and just we're gathering up information uh
and and that's that's beyond the the investigation with regarding Arctic frost. I don't expect you to have that
information today, but if you can uh help get that information so we can understand the extensive nature of this
continued misuse of 72, it would be very particularly helpful. And it was extensive. Yes, Congressman,
thank you. Time of the gentleman has expired. I have a UC, Mr. chairman and that is the gentle from Texas.
I ask unanimous consent to enter into the record El Paso airspace reopened after FAA quickly rescends 10day flights
restriction. This was published by the Texas Tribune on February 11th, 2026. And it says it was because of an impass
with the DoD over the use of un military aircraft and not triggered by Mexican
cartel drones. Without objection. Uh point of order, Mr. Chairman, I didn't hear back about the second round
of questions. I assume that's not happening. I just want to be able to assure uh the members certainly on my
side if not both sides. That's not a point of No, that that that every member will get five minutes with the uh witness. Will
there be five minutes for each? Yeah, you'll get five minutes. Yeah, with the witness. Okay, very good. Yeah. Okay. And are you up next?
Gentleman from New York is recognized. Mr. Chairman, I want to begin by
acknowledging the survivors of Jeffrey Epste's horrific abuse who are in the room with us today. I want to thank all
of you for your bravery and speaking out. I want to say that you and the other survivors of these heinous crimes
deserve better from this Department of Justice. In particular, it is shocking
that the department did not redact the names of Epstein's victims, but it did redact the names of their abusers. I
don't know whether this was done out of incompetence or whether it was deliberate and malicious, but either
way, it is completely unacceptable. Even more troubling, the DOJ has failed to bring any of these perpetrators to
justice. Instead, it has engaged in a relentless pursuit of Donald Trump's
perceived enemies. I want to focus on just one example. The attorney general of my home state of New York, Tish
James. This DOJ has been hellbent on securing an indictment against Miss James for something, anything, simply
because she held Donald Trump's companies accountable for years of financial fraud. And indeed, the
department manufactured an investigation against her for alleged quote mortgage fraud. But the US attorney leading the
investigation, Eric Sbert, a Trump appointee, refused to bring charges against Miss James because there was
simply no evidence. Unfortunately, a prosecutor who refuses to do Trump's
bidding has no place in this DOJ. So, Mr. Sbert was forced out. Trump could
not contain his fury. Fury that he expressed to you in a social media post addressed to you by name. I'm sure
you've seen it. Quote, I fired him and there is a great case he wrote to you about Mr. Sebert. Then we moved down. We
can't delay any longer. It's killing our reputation and credibility. They impeached me twice and indicted me five
times over nothing. Justice must be served now. And obviously you followed
that order. Lindseay Halligan, Trump's former defense lawyer, who had never pro
prosecuted the case in her life, was installed to replace Mr. Sbert and was clear that part of her mandate was to go
after Miss James. Halagan immediately sought an indictment which the court dismissed because Halligan was illegally
put into the role. But your department was undeterred and not once but twice
tried to indict Attorney General James in separate courts. Both grand juries rejected you and refused to indict her.
It is practically unheard of for a grand jury to refuse an indictment. In 2016,
it happened in just six cases out of over 150,000 offenses.
And you had it happen twice in the same week in two different courts. That must have been humiliating. And now there are
reports you are continuing to investigate her. The amount of resources that have gone into targeting Attorney
General James, months of investigations, multiple failed indictments is astounding. Since your own prosecutors
told you that there is not enough evidence to support a conviction, it's clear that you are going after her
simply because she held President Trump accountable and he wants to punish her.
And she is just one name on a long list of Trump political enemies that DOJ is reportedly targeting. From Joan Powell
and Lisa Cook at the Federal Reserve to James Comey, numerous Democratic members of Congress, John Brennan, Jack Smith,
Democratic officials of Minnesota, Chris Krebs, Mile Taylor, and more. Those are just the ones we know about. In contrast
to these politically motivated investigations grasping as something they can charge their enemies with, we
now have concrete evidence of disgusting criminality revealed in the Epstein files. So I have just so I really have
just one question for you. How many of Epste's co-conspirators have you indicted? How many perpetrators are you
even investigating?
First, you showed it. You I I find it. How many have you Excuse me. I'm gonna
answer the question. Answer my question. No, I'm gonna answer the question the way I want to answer the question. Your
theatrics are the way I asked it. Chairman Jordan, I'm not going to get in the gutter with these people, but I'm going to answer the question.
How many of you indicted again? The time belong. Claiming my time. The time belong. I think it's verying my time.
I think it's very interesting. And you can he talks about they indicted. President said they indicted him twice.
Mr. Chairman, please stop the clock and stop the clock and restore his time. Here we go.
Time belongs to the gentleman from New York. We will give you a few more seconds. We will do that. But when you
ask a question, the witness gets to answer. You may not like the answer, but she gets to answer. The question was how many of
They don't like the answer. Chairman because it's honest. So he asked a four minute question.
Restore 45 seconds. Mr. N please, Mr. You can let her filibuster all day long,
but not on our watch. Not on our time. No way. And I told you about that, Attorney General, before you
started. You don't tell me. Yeah. Oh, I did tell you because we saw what you did in the Senate. Lawyer, not even a lawyer.
Many will be in order. Time and I should get back at least 45 seconds. We will give you a few more seconds. I said that already.
45 seconds. Okay, I will. I'm timing right now. Mr. N. My time. The answer to my question, how
many of Epstein's co-conspirators has she indicted is zero. You have been the
attorney general for a whole year, and your DOJ fired the lead prosecutor of this case, sat on evidence this entire
time, and claimed falsely last July that there were no more leads. It took an act of Congress for you to finally release
part of the Epstein files. And when you did, you included personal information about the victims while protecting the
names of abusers. Time of the gentleman has been brought to justice but enormous resources gentleman has expired and
obviously clear that under your leadership the department of justice no longer works question in there
I yield back the gentleman yields back uh may I answer
I think our next our next uh questioner madam attorney general is going to give you time to respond to thank you chairman
all kinds of things so we will turn to the gentleman from Texas for five minutes miss Bond you go right ahead over there.
The time is yours. Thank you. First, he brought up the
president saying they indicted me twice. They sure did. They tried to impeach him twice. And you, Mr. Nadler, were one of
the leads on the impeachment. I was on the other side. I lived that with you. During impeachment, you said the
president conspired, sought foreign interference in the 2016 election.
Robert Mueller found no evidence, none, of foreign interference in 2016. Have
you apologized to President Trump? Have you apologized to President Trump? All
of you who participated in those impeachment hearings against Donald Trump, you all should be apologizing.
You sit here and you attack the president and I am not going to have it. I'm not going to put up with it. You
know, all they want to do, all the the American people need to know this. They are talking about Epstein today. This
has been around since the Obama administration. This administration
released over three million pages of documents. Over three million. And
Donald Trump signed that law to release all of those documents. He is the most
transparent president in the nation's history. And none of them none of them
ask Merrick Garland over the last four years one word about Jeffrey Epstein.
How ironic is that? You know why? Because Donald Trump the Dow the Dow
right now is over the Dow is over $50,000. I don't know why you're
laughing. You're a great stock trader as I hear Raskin. The Dow is over 50,000
right now. The S&P at almost 7,000 and the NASDAQ smashing records.
Americans 401ks and retirement savings are booming. That's what we should be
talking about. We should be talking about making Americans safe. We should be talking about what does the Dow have
to do with anything? That's what they just asked. Are you kidding? Mr. Jordan. Am I Mr. Jordan?
Committee will be in order. Mr. Jordan, am I going to get an extra 45 seconds added to my time?
The committee will be in order. The time belongs to the gentleman from Texas, Miss Bondi. The attorney general can
respond. Thank you. The DAO has shattered 50,000
for the first time. This is cra. They said it couldn't be done in four years.
Yet, President Trump has done it in one year. National median rents have fallen
to a 4-year low thanks to Donald Trump. That's why they want to focus on Epstein
and our most transparent president in the nation's history. The murder rate,
as I said, has plummeted to a 125 year low thanks to Donald Trump.
For an unprecedented unprecedented nine straight months,
there were zero illegal border crossings at the southern border.
That's what we should be focused on. all the great work that this president has
done and will continue to do to keep America safe and to make Americans safe.
Thank you, uh, Attorney General Bondi. I agree with you totally. I think you've done a fine job. I think that Democrats,
in fact, should be apologizing to the Epstein victims for doing nothing during the four years that they were running
the government. We did not hear about this, and it took you and President Trump to finally provide transparency
and give answers to the American people. And I want to thank you for that. I want to thank you also for standing up for
truth today and for fighting about fighting back against the theatrics and the time waste that you will endure over
the next hour or two. I want to apologize on behalf of my colleagues on the left. They're they're not all that
bad, but they've got to put on a show. And uh I'm sorry that you have to go through that. And I would like to yield
the last I'd say 40 and 40 is 80 seconds. The clock says 40, but I've got 80 seconds since I was so rudely
interrupted. And I'll give all 80 seconds to Chairman Jordan. And and I would just yield to the to the
attorney general if he's has anything to add.
I'm fine to continue. Thank you, chairman.

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All right. The chair now recognizes. The gentleman yields back. The chair recognizes the gentle lady from
California. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would note that Mr. Nadler's question has not yet
been answered, but I want to start by asking that out of respect for the American public and the Epstein
survivors, some of whom of course are here today, that we can have a transparent conversation and get uh the
public the answers they deserve. I want to briefly direct your attention to two
documents I'm hoping we will put up on the screen. Um, in the first, an
individual emails Jeffrey Epstein asking whether a woman identified as M was pro
or civilian, and Epstein responds that she was a civilian, Russian, and fun. In
the second email, Epstein writes to Steve Tish about a Ukrainian girl,
noting that she was quote, "A little freaked out by the age difference and stating that he would try to convince
her not to return to Ukraine." He then instructs Mr. Tish to call him, adding,
"I don't like records of these conversations, so I'd like to ask a straightforward question that really is
either a yes or no answer. Do these emails constitute credible evidence, not
proof, but credible evidence warning further investigation into whether Steve
Tish was involved in Epstein's criminal conduct? You think yes or no?
I'm not going to play a yes no game with you, but I will answer the question to the best of my ability. As I said, we
will look and investigate any case involving any victim. I'm not familiar.
There were 3 million pages of course with that email but of course we will look into anything. The documents have
been released 3 million the redacted versions we left them open for all of
you to come view. Have you I'm I believe you view them. If not will you have some copies? I'd like to can I finish please?
I'm not being rude. Please. I only have five minutes. No. Yeah. And I only have 30 seconds based on your filibuster.
But you didn't give a yes or no answer. So let me just uh go further. Director
of Patel testified in this uh committee room that there was no credible information indicating that Epstein
trafficked victims to anyone else. And glancing at the documents, that's proofs
that's not the case. Um in July, your department issued a memo stating that it
had conducted an exhaustive review of the Epstein files and concluded that no
additional individuals would be charged. So I did go over to the Department of
Justice yesterday. I would note that 400 and all our 35 members are in the house
and there's four computers. So um it would take many months to actually have
the time. I you know I only had a few hours. I think the transparency argument is really kind of a sham because it's
not really Whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you have to wait to get It is not possible to to really go in. I
did however see a US attorney information for the Southern District of New York indicating that there were
additional survivors and uh probable co-conspirators. Other members of Congress have uncovered
likely co-conspirators whose names were blocked out. Now, the the the Epstein
File Transparency Act, which all but one member of this House voted for and the president signed, requires the
department uh to release everything except that uh it needs to be redacted
to protect the victims uh or an ongoing uh prosecution, which apparently there
is none from the testimony we have received. I am concerned that this act
has not been fully complied with. When director Patel came to the committee, he admitted that up to a thousand FBI
agents had gone through the files and redacted President Trump's name from
them. And it's pretty clear that what has been transmitted from the FBI
continues to redact President Trump's name even though he is mentioned, you
know, thousands of times in these files. So I think the credibility of the department in terms of complying uh with
the act has been damaged and I think the department's credibility has been damaged in other ways. I think we all
saw the horrible video of American citizens uh being killed by ICE agents
in Minneapolis. And I think how the department has handled these cases raises a lot of doubt about the
department. State and local police in Minnesota got a court order to get
access to the crime scene to be sure evidence would be properly preserved by
federal agents. But they took the the agents defied the court order and in a
depart departure from general policy DOJ is not collaborating with state and
local law enforcement on these homicides. So, I I really think that is a disgraceful approach uh to the
homicides of American citizens and uh really does uh nothing to bring credit
to your department. And Mr. Chairman, I would yield back. Gentle yields back. May I answer? Attorney General can respond. I
I find it interesting that she keeps going after President Trump, the greatest president in American history,
and and if they could maintain their composure. This isn't a circus. This is a hearing. Uh, I find it interesting she
keeps going after Donald Trump. She doesn't say how much money she took from Reed Hoffman. Did you?
And nor Mr. Chairman, regular order, please.
Nothing on her ex account on her Twitter account during the Biden years. Gentle lady
question. There was no question attorney general.
She doesn't just get to Committee will be in order. I have a point of order, Mr. Chairman. Committee will be in order.
Point of order, Mr. Chairman. Lady can state her point of order. Uh, when a witness attacks,
not a valid point of order. You got to state. She hasn't completed her point of order yet. Please let her speak, Mr. Chairman. Let's have some regular order here.
Regular order is you got to state the rule and I am trying I am trying to make a point of order that the witness
What rule are you referring to? Without responding to a question has attacked me personally. I think it's
pathetic that she can't answer the questions and instead attack that is not even close to the point of order. The gentleman from Wisconsin is
recognized. In August of last year, I sent a letter to the Department of Justice asking for
assistance in seeking compensation for the town of Lac Dambo. Town of Lac Flambo is in my district and your office
replied that it was an ongoing matter and unable to comment on it, which which I understand is just fine. I want to set
this up um just as a reminder. So three years ago, it was at this time of year
that four roads were blockaded in the town of Lac Flambo and the temperature was 25 below zero. People had to park
their cars at a neighbor's place, take the snowmobile across the lake to get their car and then be able to drive into
town. There were people 80 and 90 years old that could not uh uh were very
concerned that they'd be able to get emergency medical services. And the perpetrators of this, the tribe out
there, they um uh demanded compensation from the town. I would call it
extortion. They ultimately got $600,000 from the town of Lacto Flambo. The
unfortunate part, Mr. chairman is that the Biden administration took the side of the perpetrators who closed those
roads off and the Biden administration um made it clear to the town of Lacto
Flambo that um we are not on your side in regards to this. Well, fortunately there was a federal judge that said no
this is wrong what happened um and these roads should be left open. They should continue to be left open. My question to
you is, are you willing to work with my office and with the town of Lacto Flambo
to further investigate this matter and seek compensation from the tribal
government after their extortion of $600,000 from this little town in northern
Wisconsin. Congressman, you do a great job representing your district. Um and yes,
we would more than welcome working with you and we are familiar with that investigation.
Mr. Chairman, I would just add we were highlighting these miscarriages of justice in the previous administration.
This is just another one of those small examples, no different than the Catholic Dasis in Richmond and many others that
you have retold so many times. But here's another instance of what they did to a small town and nearly bankrupted
them as a result of it. Fortunately, there was a federal judge that saw through it and has fixed it.
I want to move on to fraud enforcement. You've establish a national fraud enforcement division. Is that correct,
Madam Attorney General? Yes, Congressman. Um, has this new division begun any
investigations and getting after those individ individuals that have committed
uh the rampant fraud we've seen like in Minnesota? Well, it's not only rampant in Minnesota, it's rampant throughout
this country. Um, much of it is in California, as you know, and and other places. Yes, we are working on it um
actively. Our our criminal fraud division has been working on it. We are
expanding that. It was the vice president's idea to come up with this amazing separate fraud division which we
are establishing and going non-stop not only to expose the fraud in Minnesota
but around the country. It's taxpayer dollars that have been stolen um from
the American people and we are committed to um to recovering that money and holding those people accountable.
Mr. Chairman, I would remind everyone here why did this happen in Minneapolis? Why did federal law enforcement have to
go to Minneapolis? Because of industrialcale fraud. It was an assistant United States attorney that
said, "This is industrialcale fraud that's going on in Minnesota at this point." I sent a letter to our governor
in Wisconsin. Um, you know, we're right across the border there. My district is only 20 miles from the city of
Minneapolis. And I asked him to open the books for a federal audit on food stamps
and Medicaid. Don't you think it would be a good idea for every governor to do that at this point?
It protects the citizens and and and I can't understand why that's not happening. And yes, I do think that's a
great idea. It's happening around this country. And when our new division with
Colin McDonald is established, it's established when Colin is confirmed.
He's amazing. I think you've met with him. You said chairman. When that is established, we're going to work on both sides of the aisle. That's
what we want to do to stop fraud in every city in every state in this
country. We will continue to fight for the American people. So you would encourage every governor
across the United States after what we have seen in Minnesota, what we almost
certainly know is happening in other states. You mentioned California. You would agree that every governor should
avail themselves of federal resources to make sure that this industrial scale fraud is rooted out to protect the
taxpayers of the United States. Is that correct? Absolutely. Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
Gentleman yields back. The gentleman from Tennessee is recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. First, I'd like to thank you for holding this hearing and
holding it in a proper fashion as you have. Secondly, I'd like to thank all of the victims of the Epstein case who've
come here to attend this hearing for doing it and for being brave and trying to move this justice forward. I
apologize I can't do it but attorney general not recognizing you. That's embarrassing. I am from Memphis. General
Bondi uh and Memphis does have the task force there. The Memphis Safe Task Force
has been operating in Memphis for several months. And we do have a Democratic mayor, Paul Young, and he's not against the tax task force, but he
is against ICE being in Memphis, and he's not in favor of the National Guard being in Memphis. And I concur with him
on those positions. I think the DEA being there, the alcohol, tobacco, firearms, the FBI, who have been in
Memphis in other ways, having more people there is good for Memphis. Crime has gone down in Memphis, but it went
down 25% before the task force got there under the direction of Mary Young and and Director Davis, uh, Chief Davis.
It's gone down about 15% more since then, and that's good. But I would like to comment that Mexico City's homicide
rate has gone down 40% during the same time when Memphis's has only gone down 25%.
And and that's not necessarily because of the task force, although the mayor says he thinks it's helped. So, I thank
you for that. Uh you would agree, I presume that violent crime in communities
across our country is critically important and that's why the task force is there. Is that not true?
Yes. And if I can just add to that, I think the surge the FBI, our FBI under the leadership of Director Patel came in
and did a surge in Memphis earlier prior Yes. prior right prior to the task force. And thank you for saying that
about um Mayor Young. He's been great to work with and and thank you. He's a good guy.
He's a very good guy. One problem I've got with where we are in priorities here,
a recent Department of Justice, National Institute of Justice report based on arrest records uh in Texas and in
California found that undocumented immigrants were less than half as likely as US-born Americans to be arrested for
homicide. And this pattern holds for assault, sexual assault, robbery, burglary, theft, and arson. Half as
likely to be arrested for drug offenses. So, I ask you, and I've written to you about this, there are TV ads that run
that say to local law enforcement specifically, says, "Are you tired of being having your hands uh handcuffed
because you can't do the things you wanted to do when you joined? And if you want to do something different, join ICE, and you'll get a $50,000 bonus, and
we'll pay your uh pay off your debts, student debts, and we'll help you with pensions, etc., etc., etc." So, they're
encouraging local law enforcement to leave local law enforcement and go to work for ICE. We need people working in
the front lines of local law enforcement to protect our citizens from the worst of the worst. The worst of the worst are
not the immigrants. The worst of the worst, records show, are nativeborn Americans and they are committing crimes
that hurt our citizens and our cities and you're working against it and thank you for that. But by trying to get our
local law enforcement where we have an under account of officers in Memphis to leave Memphis and go to work for ICE to
deport people is a wrong priority. Why are we trying to get people, policemen who are working on the front lines to
leave the front lines, take the $50,000 and go to work for ICE and instead of
working to fight the worst of the worst. Congressman, I have not yet seen that
commercial, that ad. Um, I would argue that we need strong people in both local
law enforcement, state law enforcement, and all of our federal agencies working
together. Uh, I've seen some of the worst of the worst um, violent
criminals, violent criminals who were in this country illegally. We both know
that. And in Memphis, working hand in hand. I I want to stick with with Memphis and your mayor and what you
discussed because there have been nearly 6,000 arrests as of February 8th. And I
think you agree with this. Um, in in your district in your district and
almost 600 gang members, what we found in Memphis, a lot of the gangs are are
local gangs. Um, but 600 gang members were taken off my time because I've only
thank you for that. and 148 missing children were recovered by all of us
working together and nearly one I'm 1,000 illegal guns were seized
together and I don't disagree with some of the things you said but there are questions about those children but it's different
thing the fact is ICE is running rampant and you are not investigating them when they
killed Mr. pret and and and miss good that was an execution and you did not
investigate it and you tried to investigate her Miss Good's widow and you tried to investigate Mr. Prey they
were executed like Christine Gnome executed her dog and that was wrong and
you should investigate those people and you should investigate anybody that uses a weapon in federal official or not for
civil rights violations. I yield back the balance gentleman yields back his time. Madam Attorney General, anytime you need a break, just let us know. We'll just
we'll just we'll just keep going. The chair is now recognized for 5 minutes. Madam Attorney General, you're not allowed to exercise your constitutional
rights in a way that tramples on someone else's. Are you? No. No, you can't do that. I mean, you have
a right to petition the government under the First Amendment. That doesn't mean you can come into this this room and start screaming at Mr. Raskin or me or
anybody else and disrupt a congressional hearing. You have a right to protest on the street,
but that doesn't give you a right to go into the capital and disrupt Congress. Something these guys talk about every every day. You can't do that. So when
Don Lemon said that he was exercising his first amendment free press rights, freedom of the press rights, that's not
really accurate because he was trampling on other individuals rights. Is that is that true?
Chairman, we will always protect our churches and the freedom of religion.
And yes, that's accurate. First right mentioned under the first amendment freedom of religion. freedom. Practice your faith the way you think
the good Lord wants you to. Right. That's right. Under the federal government. And isn't it true that Mr. Lemon met at
a shopping center with the riers who entered city's church in St. Paul, met
with them prior to marching to the church.
He did meet and and this is a pending case right now. So I will only stick to what is in the four corners of the
unsealed indictment. If if I could, Chairman, there's a lot a lot more that will come out, but under the four
corners of the indictment, um yes, he did. They had an operation called Operation Pullup. Um they said they were
gearing for a resistance. They met in a parking lot and they caravanned to a
church on a Sunday morning when people were worshiping together. Mr. And Mr. Lemon said that uh uh he
live streamed before entering the church with the riers. Didn't he say we're going to head to the operation? Didn't
he say this on He said this on camera. Is that right? Yes. Chairman and more. That he was in Minnesota and that as you
said they were gearing up for an operation. So you again you can't do that. This is why this is I think so
important that this guy be held accountable and I think why you guys have have charged him and indicted him.
U moving to the second subject here. Uh, will John Brennan be indicted? Mr. Mr.
Brennan lied to the committee, which you're not supposed to do. Last Congress and we deposed him. He definitely 18 USC
10001. We're all familiar with it. He lied to the committee and the committee, the Congress, I think the country would like to know if in fact he's going to be
indicted for lying to And here's why it's so important. I'll give you a chance to respond. Here's why it's so important. Wasn't just that he lied to
us. It's what he lied to us about. He lied to us about when all this weaponization against the president of
the United States started. He lied to us about the dossier and specifically what
what role the dossier played in the intelligence community assessment
because we know back when President Trump was first elected first term. This is when it all started which led to the
Mueller and to the impeachment and to the Jack Smith and all the stuff that's happened in the last decade. But it began here and he lied to Congress about
the role he played. And I just want to read a couple of things he said during that deposition. Before I give you a
chance to uh to respond, Mr. Brennan when asked a question said the CIA was not involved at all with the dossier. He
said it was their purview, FBI's perview and not ours. He also said the CIA was very much opposed to having any
reference or inclusion of the steel dossier in the intelligence community assessment.
Well, that's interesting because declassified information that was declassified this past summer by the CIA
says something entirely different. It says Brennan, I want to put this one up if we have it. It says Brennan ultimately formalized his position in
writing stating that quote, this is released by the CIA director Rackcliffe. My bottom line is that what I believe that that information warrants inclusion
in the report, he was further asked by an ICA a CIA official.
The same officer said when he approached the director and asked and that the director refused to remove it after
being explained this wasn't good with the dossier's many flaws. He said yes
but doesn't it ring true. So this is John Brennan using that document to
change intelligence community assessment which I think led to all the stuff we've seen over the last decade
and I think this committee and the country congress in the country like excuse me like to know if uh Mr. Brenn
is going to be indicted. What I can confirm is that we have
received a referral from you, Chairman Jordan, um to investigate John Brennan.
His attorneys have made some public statements um but the department is still bound of course by our
long-standing policy of not discussing matters. What I will say today, I can't confirm
nor deny whether there is a pending investigation, but what I will say is no one is above the law.
Mr. Mr. Chairman, weaponization has ended. Yeah. Point of order, Mr. Chairman.
Gentleman from New York is recognized for a point of order. Um, if we want to know whether Mr. Brennan will be indicted, you should
just ask the president. Not a point of order, but I appreciate the trying to make it one. Um, the
gentleman from Georgia is uh is recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, General
Bundy, it's been reported that uh there were at one point 1,000 U. personnel
assigned to the task of identifying and scrubbing Donald Trump's name from the
Epstein files. Were those reports uh accurate?
I believe his name has appeared countless times in the document.
How many people have been released? If I if I could if I could finish, I'm going to read you the stats. I just simply
asked whether or not it was true that it was 1,000 folks who were assigned that
task. Were those reports accurate? There are more than 500 attorneys and
reviewers. I cannot give you an exact number. And and I wanted to ask you I wanted to ask you about that also because this is
a different question that you're getting to now. There were 500
uh DOJ lawyers and um and others assigned the task of redacting the uh
appropriate information including uh identities of the Epstein victim
survivors from the Epstein files prior to their release. 500. Is that correct?
If I could have finished my answer, there were more than 500 attorneys and
reviewers who assisted with the answers and they don't want an answer.
That answers my question, ma'am. And I'm going to move on. I'm going to move on. Bundy, would you
belong the time belongs to the to the gentleman from Georgia? General Bundy, would you agree that your eight years of
service as uh the state of Florida's attorney general, the third largest
state in the nation, served as an excellent preparation for your current role as attorney general for the United
States of America. Not only that, I was a career prosecutor for 18 years. And for 18 years and for
18 years being for 18 years, you ask a question and doesn't want an answer. This is theatric.
Well, no. For 18 years, you prosecuted uh serious felony cases uh including uh
drug cases. Correct. Oh, I prosecuted homicides. I prosecuted capital cases. I prosecuted domestic
violence cases. I prosecuted multiple cases. And that's why I feel for all of these victims. And did you ask Merrick
Garland this sitting before? also prosecuted sexual assault cases and uh
child sex trafficking cases. Correct.
I answered that question earlier. I've prosecuted multiple cases when bottom line bottom line experienced and
seasoned 18 years. Mr. Chairman, will you remind her of the rules? The time belongs to the member of the committee.
You are a seasoned an experienced prosecutor. Correct.
I think we've established that. Yes or no? Does he want an answer or not? He wants a yes or no answer.
I think he wants the same no answer. But I'll I'll live with what you have already said. Let me ask you let me ask
you this questions. The prosecution of sexual assault cases. You are acutely
aware of how important it is to protect the identity of victims of sexual
assault. Correct.
I have addressed this multiple times. I think others were cutting me off when I was trying to
I I just simply asked, are you aware of the fact that it's vitally important to
protect the identity of sexual assault victims as you prosecute their uh the
people they accuse of assaulting them? Isn't that correct?
Excuse me. As we have said multiple times, protection of the protection of all
victims of the victims are protected. You are protected under Do you want me to answer or do you want to interrupt?
Well, cuz you're not answering the question. You you do a jackal and hide kind of routine around here
and I just want you to answer my questions. What does jackal and hide mean? Can you Well, it means you're nice to the
Republicans and you turn like uh hide on on uh Democrats. But let me ask you
this, ma'am. We have the Epstein victim survivors
here today. Representative Gyipaul asked a simple question. If you would be so
kind and honorable as to turn around and face them and apologize to them for
outing them. I mean, how much
how many lives have been derailed because your department was either sloppy and incompetent or willfully
trying to intimidate and punish these ladies forward. Time of the gentleman was the time of
the gentleman has expired. The gentleman yields back. The chair now recognizes the gentleman from Wisconsin for five
minutes. Uh, Attorney General Bondi, uh, my colleagues on the other side of the
aisle have spent the past several months attacking the administration for doing exactly what the American people wanted
when they overwhelmingly elected President Trump, securing our border, and enforcing our immigration laws. Uh I
find it a bit ironic uh because this is the same party who just a few years ago
were openly supporting strong immigration enforcement after witnessing criminal illegal aliens wreak havoc on
the American communities. Uh I have a short video I just wanted to play
of immigrants. We're also a nation of laws. Undocumented workers broke our
immigration laws and I believe that they must be held accountable. They've committed a crime. Deport them. No
questions asked. They're gone. No great nation can be in a position where they can't
control their borders. While we need to address the issue of immigration and the and the challenge we
have of undocumented people in our country, we certainly don't want any more coming in. Every place in this country are rightly
disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The
jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens
on our taxpayers. That's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more. By hiring a
record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on
illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. Illegal immigration is wrong. Plain and
simple. When we use phrases like undocumented workers, we convey a
message to the American people that their government is not serious about combating illegal immigration, which the
American people overwhelmingly oppose. If you don't think it's illegal, you're not going to say it. I think it is
illegal and wrong. Open the borders. My god, you know, there's a lot of poverty in this world
and you're going to have people from all over the world and I I don't think that's something that we can do at this point. Can't do it.
Yes or no? Would you allow the cities to ignore the federal law? No. We simply cannot allow people to pour
into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and
circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently, and lawfully uh to become immigrants in this
country. So, Attorney General Bondi, um, what's the Trump administration DOJ
doing to end the open border policies of the prior administration that saw
dangerous drugs and criminal aliens flood our communities.
Congressman, President Trump has worked tirelessly, as you know, to close our
border, which is what the Democrats had asked for in that video. President Trump closed our borders on day one. He is
protecting Americans. He is protecting our kids from the influx of drugs that
were flowing into this country from Mexico. The fentanyl precursors that were coming from China. These precursors
were taken from China into Mexico. And in Mexico, they were mixed and freely
taken right into our country along with gang members, MS-13, TDA, freely coming
into our cities around our country thanks to Joe Biden's open border
policies. That has stopped under Donald Trump. it will no longer happen under
this administration. And he is doing everything to keep Americans safe. And
let me let me continue. When he was elected, overwhelmingly by the American people, the majority of the American
people wanted Donald Trump, one of the main reasons was border security and keeping Americans safe. And that's
exactly what he did. And that's why today the other side sits here. They
yell. They cut me off. They they want to yell. They want to ask a question and don't want answers because they want to
distract from all the great things that this president and this administration
working hand inand and that includes Secretary Gnome who has closed our borders and Tom Hman who has closed our
borders to keep Americans safe and they're trying to distract from that and they're not going to do it because the
American people are smarter than that and they see through their theatrics. Thank you. Just quickly, uh, yesterday
Senator Grassley reached out to my office to tell me that I was one of the 20 members, uh, that was now disclosed
were under surveillance from Jack Smith. Uh, this brings up the question of non-disclosure orders and whether or not
they should apply to members of Congress. But with my phone records being surveiled as well as looks like 19
other members of Congress just wondering how do DOJ views that
time is gentleman's expired but the gentle lady can respond. As I stated earlier Congressman anyone's
um records who were illegally obtained Democrat or Republican we will fight vigorously to stop that. Anything with
Arctic frost I can't discuss right now. And isn't it true madam attorney general the DOJ's changed their policy? You
can't you can't do that now. That DJ is not going to go do that and ask the judge for for an NDO.
Absolutely. Yeah. Good. That that that in and of itself tells you why this how wrong it was. The chair now recognizes the gentleman from California. Great.
Madam Attorney General, you acknowledged earlier to Mr. Johnson that President
Trump was mentioned and the release countless times. You said in the Epstein
files. I I just want to play a video though for you that I think speaks to the frustration that many of these
victims have. of times Trump's name appears in the files. So, it could at least be a
thousand times. Is that right? The number is a total misleading factor.
We have not released anyone's name. We have not released anyone's name in the files that has not been credible.
Director could have released every piece of legally permissible information. You
can characterize the numbers however you want it. claiming my time. Director, it sounds like if you don't know the
number, it could at least be a thousand times. It's not. Is it at least 500 times?
No. Is it at least 100 times? No. Then what's the number? I don't know the number.
I understand why the victims are frustrated. And the attorney general acknowledged what Mr. Patel would not acknowledge that it was way more than a
thousand times. But I I want to move, madam attorney general, to weaponization of government. And yesterday it was
reported that six members of Congress had indictments sought against him and they were not returned by a grand jury.
My colleagues have spoken about their frustration of being in subpoenas and having cell phone records uh combed
through. Well, in 2017 and 2018, Adam Schiff and I had our cell phone records
and email records combed through, not by you, but a different department of justice under the president. It was in
retaliation for our role in the Russia interference campaign. An inspector general report would find this improper
and that the predicate for it was absurd. In 2020, after sitting on two committees that were a part of the
president's first impeachment, an FBI agent leaked my cooperation in a national security case where my campaign
was targeted. The president's FBI senior leadership authorized two statements to
the press that said I was never suspected of wrongdoing and only helped the investigation. But that didn't stop
the death threats or my GOP colleagues from referring me to an ethics investigation where Kevin McCarthy's
chairman on the ethics committee would find the same thing as the FBI. Our current FBI director would then write a
book called Government Gangsters and identify a long list of enemies. About a quarter of them have been either
investigated or indicted. He listed me at the very top along with Adam Schiff and during that same testimony refused
to recuse himself when asked if he would recuse if any case came across his desk
involving me or people on that list. Since that testimony, his department has put me under investigation with Senator
and Schiff for the nonsense mortgage fraud cases that we've seen. I get it.
This is what the president does. I've priced it in. We have a bingo card at home that my kids have made of what will
come next. I expected that the president would come after his enemies. But what I want to talk to you next is serious, and
I did not expect this would happen, and I'd like your help on it. The president has inspired death threats against me
and many sitting up here with me. In June 2025, an individual left 11
voicemails at my district office. On the voicemails, they said, "Get the message to him. I'm going to hunt him down that
and toss his ass over the Golden Gate Bridge by my self. Donald Trump's Department of Justice in
the Northern District of California declined to prosecute. On May 14, 2025
on Twitter, responding to something I posted, an individual said, "No, it wasn't, Eric, and now I'm going to kill
you." The Department of Justice from the Southern District of Texas declined to prosecute. May through December of 2025,
we received messages at my office that said, "I hope somebody shoots you and your children and your wife in the
head." Pew pew, Pew, pew. I would stay indoors as much as possible and my children unfortunately have to do
that. The Department of Justice has not charged this individual and cited that he's a prolific caller and has health
conditions. Although what we have found in our investigation and his voicemails is that he has said he will employ
others to do this. The president can come after me. It's fine. I'm in the arena. So are these folks. But we never
expected that the Department of Justice would not seek to prosecute and investigate those who are making threats
against us. And that would include those on that side of the aisle. And I help I'm just asking for your help to protect
life because life is at risk with the environment we're in right now. Congressman, I completely agree with
you. Uh I I know about several of those personally involving you. Um I believe
one has been charged publicly and there's something I would be happy to talk to you about um off camera. Um but
I can assure you that they are very serious. They are being looked into and
I I can give you more details on those. None of you should be threatened ever.
None of your children should be threatened. None of your families should be threatened and I will work with you
can come into my office any day. I will work with all of you on both sides of the aisle if you are ever threatened and
and I would glad I'll gladly talk to you after this hearing about your cases, but I can tell you some of them are very
active. Appreciate that. And yield back. Gentleman yields back and we're sorry for what the gentleman and his family have had to go had had to go through. We
appreciate what the attorney general said. Um, and I think some of the things that the gentleman from California
related, we can all relate to, and it's it's unfortunate it's wrong, as the attorney general said, and we we appreciate the help we get from uh the
Justice Department. Uh, with that, we will now recognize the gentleman from New Jersey, Mr. Van Drew.
Thank you, Chairman. I don't know where to begin. Thank you for being here, General. Right. See when I'm right in
front of you. Um, I I just I have to mention this first. You know, I use this
word before and my friends on the other side of the aisle got mad at me, but hypocrisy.
Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. But for years on the other side of the aisle, we heard
nothing. Crickets, not a word. Nothing was said when they were in control. Nothing was mentioned basically to last
summer. And the ranking member points out that he did do something last year. Yeah, he did a letter complaining about
the plea deal for Maxwell, but it wasn't a big deal. Then we get a new administration and all of a sudden it's
a big deal and they they feign concern. They're upset. They're investigating. They had all these years and all this
time. And in fact, Stacy Plaskin, we all know that name, when they had a congressional hearing, Democratic
member, were taking texts from Epstein on questions to ask to go after Trump.
So Epstein was using her Democratic colleague as a tool to go after President Trump. Just everybody keep
that in mind. And then we talk about ICE and how horrible it is and and there are concerns. Everybody wants everything to
go right. Nobody ever wants to see somebody die. and they complain about it, but at the
same time, hypocrisy. They encourage constituents to go after the ICE agents
to challenge them, to hurt them, to attack them. And that doesn't make sense. That's hypocrisy. And then we
hear about the concern of, you know, going after Democrats, that the legal system, that judiciary and Department of
Justice is going after Democrats, but they re literally rework the legal
system under Alvin Bragg and Leticia James to go after Republicans and those
sympathetic to Republicans. So, I mean, be careful when you accuse others that you're not guilty yourself.
Be careful of what you say because you got a history and it's easy to go over it. You know, I just want to talk about
where we were and where we are now. We had over 10 million illegal crossings in the past between 2020 and 24. Over 10
million. There's probably a much bigger number. I'm being conservative. We were told the people weren't dangerous, but
they were, General. They were dangerous. Many of them more than 300 individuals on the terror watch list during that
time. Violent criminals came across as we saw consequences where mothers and
fathers, daughters and son, children were raped, murdered, hurt, abused,
beaten, trafficked, all from the drugs. My god, the drugs they brought into our
babies in this country. 73,000 illegals with criminal histories. 20,000
with convictions of assault, robbery, and sex offenses. 13,000 convicted murderers in our beautiful country.
15,000 convicted sexual assault offenders. It was madness. It was insanity. It's bizarre. It's perverse.
What in God's name were you doing? So, we finally are cleaning this up now.
We're finally trying to make it right and safe for our people. So, my questions are this. General, do you
believe in removing criminal illegal aliens from our communities will save
American lives? Yes. And given the the cases that you
just discussed, that's proof of it every single day. President Trump is committed to that. This entire cabinet is
committed to that and making and keeping Americans safe. Thank you. Would you agree that, and
thank you for doing that, would you agree that allowing individuals with known criminal histories to enter and remain in the United States, we knew
this back then, they knew it, it would you agree that creates serious risks to our public safety? I know the answers,
but let's just say them clearly. Yes. Would you agree that when dangerous individuals are released instead of
detained and they were released over and over and over again and these are the
real issues? This is really what America cares about. They want their children and their families to be safe.
Do you think if you release them instead of detaining them that crimes will happen because of that?
Absolutely. Would you agree that I'm sorry? And it did. And it did. Thank you. Would you agree
that cooperation between and this is a biggie and I'm going to ask you to elaborate on this. This is a big deal.
This is why some of the problems we're seeing in some of the places like Minnesota are happening. That cooperation between federal and local
enforcement, which we always used to have, helps remove violent offenders from our communities that we should be a
team. Yes. And can you elaborate on that a little bit? In other words, when the local
enforcement is forced by the politicians, not their fault, not to do their job and not cooperate, why does it
create the situations that we see where we have need for crowd control? By the
way, they're not peaceful. Those are not peaceful protesters. We know what a peaceful protester is. When you spit on
on law enforcement, when you push them, when you hit them, when you beat their car, if you can answer the question,
thanks back. You may answer the question. Thank you. Yes, I spent four days myself
in Minnesota in Minneapolis. Um, what I will say about some of these sanctuary
cities, some of these Democratic cities, law enforcement, they quietly want to work with us. I've spoken to law
enforcement in multiple cities um, who want to work with us. And yes, we're
going to do everything we can to keep our citizens safe whether or not these
um Democratcontrolled sanctuary cities do or don't. And damn it, that's what really matters.
I yield time. Mr. Chair, I have a UC. Um Miss Crockett from Texas is
recognized for UC. Thank you so much. Donald Trump's approval rating implodes on his strongest issue. This is from Newsweek
today. It says 40% of people approve of you don't need to read the article to us and border security while 60% disapprove
without objection admitted. Now I recognize the gentleman from California Mr. Lou.
Thank you Attorney General Bondi for being here today. I'm going to show you two photos. Thank you.
I'm going to show you two photos of former Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew
attended various parties with Jeffrey Epstein. Under the law Congress passed,
you were allowed to redact photos to protect the victims of Epstein's sex
trafficking operation. You redacted the photos of this victim's face because you
were following the congressional law. Is that correct?
I'm sorry that we redacted the victim's because you following the congressional law, correct? Yes. Okay.
You have now established that we Please put the photos back up. That we are looking at a sex trafficking victim
under the Federal Victims Trafficking Protection Act. Not only is Jeffrey
Epstein guilty, but anyone who patronizes Epstein's sex operation is
also guilty of a crime. That's why I find it absolutely despicable that you
sought to protect Epstein's clients like former Prince Andrew. Last July, you
closed the case on Epstein's abusers. The July 2025 memo from your Department
of Justice stated, quote, "We did not uncover evidence that could predicate an
investigation against uncharged third parties." These two photos, please put the photos
back up. These two photos staring you in the face are evidence of a crime and
more than enough evidence to predicate an investigation against former Prince Andrew. So I ask you, Attorney General
Pam Bondi, why did you shut down this investigation last July? And why have you not prosecuted former Prince Andrew?
I don't believe you asked Merrick Garland these questions when he was um attorney general and set before
I agree with you. I'm claiming my time. I agree with you. I agree with you. During the during the Biden
administration, I called for people looking at Epstein files. Merrick Garland dropped the ball as did Attorney
General Bill Barr, as did Alex Aosta. A whole string of failures, but you are in
charge. You have the power to change things, to hold these men accountable, and you're doing the opposite. You're
protecting them. So, I want to move on to another man, Donald Trump. I want to move on another question. Answer your question about protecting.
You answered the question. You're saying no. I love this. I want to discuss another man, Donald Trump, who
is all over the Epstein files. Like former prince, here's the video.
Like former Prince Andrew, Donald Trump attended various parties with Jeffrey
Epstein. I want to know were there any underage girls at that party or at any
party that Trump attended with Jeffrey Epstein.
This is so ridiculous and that they are trying to deflect
from all the great things Donald Trump has done. There is no evidence that Donald Trump has committed a crime.
Everyone knows that. This has been the most transparent presidency. He's the one that those files reclaim my time. I
got your answer. You said there's no evidence the legislation. This this is like time
belongs to the gentleman from California. Okay. I'm going to put up another document
from a witness who called the FBI's National Threat Operation Center because
I believe you just lied under oath. There is ample evidence in the Epstein. Don't you ever accuse me of a crime.
I believe you just lied under oath and this is all on videotape. You said there's no evidence of a crime. I'm
showing you here is a witness statement who called into the FBI's threat operations center. He drove
Donald Trump around in a limo. He overheard what Donald Trump said to Jeffrey on his cell phone. He was so
angry he was going to stop a limo and hurt Donald Trump. and he met a girl who said she was raped by Donald Trump and
Jeffrey Epstein. She later had her head blown off and officers at the scene said that could
not have been suicide. No one No one at the Department of
Justice interviewed this witness. You need to interview this witness
immediately. Epstein should rot in hell. So should the men who patronize this operation.
And as we say here today, there are over 1,000 sex trafficking victims and you
have not held a single man accountable. Shame on you. If you had any decency, you would resign right after this
hearing concludes. Gentlemen has expired. Uh May I respond?
Yeah. I don't know how you respond. No one can. I did not ask a question. You're allowed to ask a crime in California. He does
not want to talk about I did not ask a question in his state. I did not ask a question.
Vinnie will be in order. The gentleman has yielded back his time. I think our next witness will be more than happy to
uh let the attorney general. Madam Attorney General, would you like Gentleman from Alabama is recognized for five minutes.
You have you have a few minutes to Thank you, Congressman. This This is what Congressman Lou didn't want to talk
about. He didn't want to talk about all the crime that is happening in his
state. California refuses to honor detainees
because of its dangerous sanctuary city policies. The refusal means California
has released 4,561 criminal illegal aliens, criminal
illegal aliens onto its street. The crimes of these aliens include 31
homicides, 661 assaults, 574
burglaries, 184 robberies,
100 1,489 dangerous drug offenses, 379
weapons offenses, and 234
sexual ual predator offenses. That's why they are deflecting. That's why they're
trying to talk about the Epstein files. That's currently happening in his home
state. Attorney General, thank you for being here. And I wanted to make sure you had time to respond. Uh, I'm going to change
gears a little bit and and uh um in October when you were testifying before the Senate, I know you and my friend
Senator Katie Britt discussed concerns of infiltration of the illegal Chinese vapes into our country. As a father of
three, obviously I'm worried a little bit about this and I believe that many parents in the country share our similar
concerns. Can you provide an update on DOJ's work in this space over the past few months?
Yes, and and thank you for bringing that up. We're talking about that the vapes. Um, and this should be an issue where
both sides of the aisle can work together on. Parents need to understand, children need to understand that so many
of these are being manufactured in China, sent to our country, and have the
potential to be laced with lethal drugs. We've seen an overdose. We need to get
on the front end of this before we have another crisis and children are dying.
I've partnered with Secretary Kennedy, of course, at HHS on this matter, but thank you for bringing it up. You know,
they're selling these things um as flavored vapes illegally in many stores
around the country. Um, we, Secretary Kennedy and I actually did a we went and
and did something on this and and it was sadly the day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated and so it didn't get a lot
of attention, nor should it have after that happened. But yes, we're continuing to work on that and thank you for for
bringing that up. It's happening in all of our states. And I would ask everyone here, I know Congresswoman Ross was just
nodding, it's happening in every state. And not only are they laced with THC,
many of these vapes, but they could be laced with fentanyl. We have had a child I I wish I could think of the state it
was in, but we have already had someone overdose. And we got we have to get together on this and we have to get on
the front end of this. And I would love to work across the aisle on this to
protect our kids. How many school kids do you see now vaping? And it's not only I I believe a vape has 20 cigarettes,
but you know that's that's one vape is 20 cigarettes. I I believe it is, but
also what they could be laced with because so many of them, the majority of them are manufactured in China.
Sure. And if you need additional resources, please let us know as you're going through the process. And I'm going to change gears one more time on you.
Um, under the Biden administration, there was a lot of confused uh or a lot of confusion created when parts of the
DOJ began treating software developers like financial institutions. Even when they did not hold or control anyone's
money, they were simply building the technology. That uncertainty made it harder for Americans to build innovate
here at home. Earlier this year, the deputy attorney general issued a memo tit entitled uh ending regulations by
prosecution. a clear a clear break from the Biden administration's approach and and I think it's important that we
that's a good step in the right direction. But can you talk a bit about how the DOJ is now putting that memo into practice especially when it comes
to making sure that people are just writing the software and don't control the users funds and aren't we don't want
them treated as an unlicensed money or they're they're not money transmitters. Yes. And we're doing everything we can
to protect the American people on that. And I would refer everyone to Deputy um Attorney General Blanch's his memo and
we're working as hard as we can on that topic. We want to lead the way in the space on that. So we'd appreciate the help. And
with that, Mr. Chairman, I'll yield back 10 seconds. Gentleman yields back. We recognize jump
for Arizona for unanimous consent. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a number of UC's. Gentlemen can proceed. Thank you. Bombshell new docs show Trump
called police about Epstein in 2006. Objection. Kla Harris defends Biden administration
decision not to release Epstein files. Objection. Why weren't they released during the
Biden administration? Objection. House Democrat Stacy Plasket exchanged texts with Epstein during 2019
congressional hearing. Objection. New York judge allows Epstein victim's claims against Plasket to proceed.
Objection. Hakee Jeffrey solicited funding from Epstein in 2013 after financeier was
convicted child sex offender. Objection. Jeffrey Epstein was invited to DIM fundraising dinner and to get to
know Hakee Jeff by firm working with Brooklyn's Barack. Without objection,
an email from Leslie Grath to Jeffrey Epstein uh concerning Hakee Jeff
fundraising. Uh Epstein file says Biden was replaced in 2019. Question mark. Without
objection. Thank you. Gentleman yields. Uh back. The uh gentleman from California is recognized.
Mr. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and uh welcome,
Miss A.G. Bondi. I agree with you. Um our top priority should be protecting
Americans. In my past life in the California State Legislature, I did a lot of work on
solving sex crimes, passing legislation to update our codes. Uh and I found that
the biggest challenge to solving sex crimes is reporting them.
victims have to have the guts to stand up to report those sex crimes. But it's
not easy. It's the most unreported sex crime there is. Most crime there is is sex crimes. It's painful, humiliating. A
lot of time the victims don't think anything's going to come out of their reporting these crimes.
Then we have adults who as children were molested, boys and girls, who will live
in silence for the rest of their life. I believe the Epstein files are just one
of many sex ring, sex crimes taking place in our society today. I hear 1,200
Epstein victims, some additional victims as young or 9 to
10 years old. The challenge I have today, what bothers me today about this hearing, Madame AG,
is what's the message we're sending out there on Main Street?
Shouldn't ask a question I don't know an answer to, but I'm going to ask the victims behind you right now.
First, can you please stand up? And then can you please raise your hand
if you think after everything you've heard today you feel that AG the feds
have your back? Do we have your back? Raise your hand if you're confident that we got your back. And that's the issue.
Madam AG, we've got to make sure that victims stand up and report the crimes.
Otherwise, we're going to be taking step backwards. Today, AI, cyber, social
media, the new realm for people to be hurt, attacked sexually.
These are the areas I'd welcome the opportunity to work with you on. It's not your problem. It's not my problem.
It's our problem. But to have redacted redacted files that are not showing us
the names of these predators is wrong. These are very powerful people.
This was a very expensive business and we don't know who they are. I would
imagine they're very prominent Republicans, very Republican Democrats
and we are covering up for them. We got to know what's going on out there. Madame AG, I it looks like you want to
say something. I'm going to give the opportunity to address my statement.
I look forward to working with you on any crimes involving child sex predators, children, and also
cyber crimes. That is a tremendous problem now throughout our country. AI, you are correct, AI is causing um great
problems online regarding we're working on that though. AI is an incredible tool, but it also can be fraught with
peril with victims of of crime. I I've experienced that with someone I know who we've been trying to help. I look
forward though to working with you on that and also cyber crimes.