https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/D ... 858481.pdf31E-NY-3027571 Serial 252
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UNCLASSIFIED//FOUO
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Date of entry 08/22/2019
[DELETE] [DELETE] [DELETE] (PROTECT SOURCE, hereinafter "[DELETE] "), date of birth [DELETE] [DELETE] [DELETE] [DELETE] [DELETE] [DELETE] [DELETE] [DELETE] [DELETE] [DELETE] advised the [DELETE] High School yearbooks for [DELETE] (she was a freshman) and [DELETE] (she was a sophomore) would have photographs of [DELETE] at approximately 15 and 16 years old, closer to the timeframe of JEFFREY EPSTEIN's abuse of [DELETE] . Her last name at the time the yearbooks were published was [DELETE]. She recalled the [DELETE] High School mascot was possibly [DELETE] and one of their school colors may have been [DELETE]. [DELETE] also provided the interviewing Agents with two photographs (undated) that include her at approximately 13-16 years old. The first photograph included two females laying on a bed. [DELETE] identified herself as the female on the right (not smiling). [DELETE] believed this photograph may have been taken prior to her meeting EPSTEIN. The second photograph shows five individuals sitting down as a group, with an additional individual sitting approximately two feet away. All individuals appear to be female. [DELETE] is the second from the right (appearing to sit somewhat behind the other girls. She has white sunglasses on her head.) [DELETE] advised she recalled this photograph was most likely taken after she met and was abused by EPSTEIN. She noted the Solo cups in the photograph and inferred they contained alcohol. [DELETE] indicated the party atmosphere would have occurred after she met EPSTEIN.
UNCLASSIFIED//FOUO
Investigation on 08/07/2019 at [DELETE], [DELETE] United States (In Person)
File# 31E—NY-3027571 Date drafted 08/09/2019
by SA [DELETE] [DELETE], [DELETE] [DELETE]
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At the start of the interview, [DELETE] advised she now felt comfortable enough to provide details regarding (sexual and physical) abuse she suffered at the hands of not only JEFFREY EPSTEIN, but also certain individuals associated with him. She advised that she met EPSTEIN (referred to as "JEFF" by [DELETE]) through fraud and misrepresentation, and that he and others took advantage of her mother. [DELETE] stated that EPSTEIN blackmailed her mother through explicit photographs of [DELETE], which resulted in her mother embezzling from her real estate company to pay him. [DELETE] stated that her mother, "tried to buy back the photos and secrets" over the years. A man named JIM ATKINS (phonetic), a friend/associate of EPSTEIN (background of relationship unknown), participated with EPSTEIN in blackmailing [DELETE] mother. ATKINS also sexually assaulted [DELETE] on more than one occasion. [DELETE] described ATKINS as a white male with gray hair, "big ears", and hairy body. ATKINS was possibly in his 50's in the early 1980s, and lived in Ohio. ATKINS was somehow associated with an Ohio university (unidentified); he may have been the Dean, or the "money guy" at the school at the time. ATKINS either owned or rented a residence on [DELETE] Island, where he stayed when he came to the Island. [DELETE] stated that the home she and her mother lived in on the Island would not have been nice enough for ATKINS to stay in. [DELETE] met ATKINS not long after EPSTEIN began sexually assaulting her. She estimated she met him when she was approximately 14 or 15 years old, and recalled meeting him in her mother's office; however, she did not know why he was in her mother's office initially. [DELETE] could not recall how her mother and ATKINS were originally introduced. ATKINS came off as a, "rich prick [who would] throw his weight around and talk about money. He would expect people to respond immediately to him. ATKINS was a "pervert" and looked at [DELETE] like she was a "piece of meat." He developed a romantic relationship with [DELETE] mother who he claimed he loved, but [DELETE] mother appeared annoyed with him at times. They dated for approximately a year and ATKINS would fly on and off the Island to see her. [DELETE] looked back on the relationship and thought her mother and ATKINS may have been "secretly dating" (if he was married in Ohio). He was rude to [DELETE] and her brothers, he had a short temper, and he was a drinker. [DELETE] brother [DELETE] would recognize ATKINS. [DELETE] recalled seeing EPSTEIN and ATKINS together at least once at EPSTEIN's house. She recalled it was most likely at the second house she knew him to live in while he resided on [DELETE] Island.Continuation of FD-302 of Interview #2, On 08/07/2019, Page 3 of 10
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ATKINS and his accountant (Black male named "Cecil" Last Name Unknown) assisted [DELETE] mother in "fixing" her real estate books so that she could embezzle funds and pay EPSTEIN. At some point, ATKINS and [DELETE] mother had a falling out, and ATKINS, EPSTEIN and possibly CECIL turned [DELETE] mother's in to the Real Estate Commission by providing her accurate real estate book/records. [DELETE] mother was sent to prison for a period of time for embezzlement, and she was not able to pay the restitution ordered. [DELETE] was not aware of the blackmailing when it began to occur. Her mother informed her late into the process that they were in trouble, that she had seen photographs of [DELETE], and that she was paying people money. [DELETE] recalled calling ATKINS at the school where he was employed to ask whether he could help [DELETE] and her mother. Prior to [DELETE] meeting EPSTEIN, her mother had been sober. [DELETE] advised that the threat must have been very real because her mother was a very strong woman and it affected her substantially. After EPSTEIN blackmailed her, [DELETE] mother began to drink alcohol again.[DELETE] continued the chronological discussion of incidents involving EPSTEIN that [DELETE] began to detail during the previous interview.
With respect to what [DELETE] believed to be the fourth incident, the two men involved (in addition to EPSTEIN), described by [DELETE] to be "fat" and "disgusting", also "seemed to have money". [DELETE] was asked more than once about the contact between herself and the men and what transpired during that fourth interaction. [DELETE] did not recall the men's names. At the time of the interview, [DELETE] was notContinuation of FD-302 of Interview #2, On 08/07/2019, Page 4 of 10
comfortable going into specifics regarding the sexual abuse the men subjected her to.After approximately the fourth interaction with EPSTEIN that summer, a period of time elapsed (within the same summer) and EPSTEIN began living/staying at a different residence (location details unknown). On one occasion, [DELETE] and her friends were at a pool one night, possibly at the Marriott Hotel [DELETE]. She recalled [DELETE] [DELETE] being present. EPSTEIN showed up, alone, at the pool. [DELETE] believed that when he showed up someone (one of her friends) must have seen him. [DELETE] left with EPSTEIN, and he got her to leave without using violence. They went back to his house (she reiterated it was a different residence than his previous home). When they arrived, it was the, "same kind of bull shit". EPSTEIN asked [DELETE] who her friends were, if she told her friends, and if her friends wanted to "come party". [DELETE] responded no, she did not tell her friends and no, they did not want to come party.
[DELETE] stated that EPSTEIN sent her on what she referred to as "missions" to find, "young girls who wanted to party."
On approximately the fifth interaction [DELETE] recalled having with EPSTEIN, other people were present. [DELETE] vaguely remembered other girls around and older men, but she did not recognize anyone. Two of the men were "fat and disgusting" and had "Santa stomachs"; however, one man was heavier than the other. With respect to recognizing other individuals from the area, [DELETE] stated that [DELETE] Island was small; she knew most girls her age and the fact she did not recognize any of the girls partying with EPSTEIN and his friends made her wonder where they came from. There was a beach near the hotels known by locals and some vacationers to be a place to "party". When asked about the men present during the fifth interaction, [DELETE] advised one of the men (unidentified) physically and verbally abused her. She remembered he pulled her hair and, "beat the shit out of me." She thought it was strange that he stomped on her big toe. He hit her with a belt or similar object. She had, "no idea what that was about." His abusive actions toward [DELETE] were not sexual, except he masturbated at certain points while abusing her. She could not recall having bruises after the man beat her. [DELETE] stated, "It was a very long evening that went into morning." [DELETE]Continuation of FD-302 of Interview #2, On 08/07/2019, Page 5 of 10
mother was not concerned that she did not go home that night because it was normal for her to stay at a friend's home overnight sometimes. At that point, her mother was not aware of [DELETE] ongoing abuse by EPSTEIN and his associates.
With respect to bruising incurred from any of the abusive interactions with EPSTEIN, [DELETE] stated, "I must have had bruises but I don't remember my friends saying anything." She did not go to the hospital, and she did not incur any broken limbs. [DELETE] thought she may have had a few knots on her head after interactions with EPSTEIN.[DELETE] knows EPSTEIN took photographs of her during sexual activity because she found images of herself in a drawer during her third interaction with him (previously documented) and she vaguely recalled EPSTEIN taking the pictures. EPSTEIN took Polaroid pictures of her; some were of just her breasts, others depicted only her face, and some showed her whole body. [DELETE] remembered she was wearing one of EPSTEIN's shirts in at least one photograph he took. She described the shirt as "very crispy", and possibly blue or white. [DELETE] advised a tripod came to mind as well and was possibly involved at some point. [DELETE] did not recall any other men taking photographs of her. [DELETE] pointed out that just because she could not remember whether they took photographs did not mean they did not.
[DELETE] estimated she had more than 6 and less than 20 sexual interactions with EPSTEIN over time.
EPSTEIN told [DELETE] on at least one occasion that "dark" was his time (no further information). [DELETE] was EPSTEIN's "main contact" on the Island. When they were with others, EPSTEIN appeared to be the leader, and others deferred to him. [DELETE] generally only talked to EPSTEIN, "They abused me, but I didn't talk to them." [DELETE] wanted to be in a "good place" with EPSTEIN, "better to get him people to party with, than to be partied on." At this point, [DELETE] attorney, [DELETE] advised, "You felt shame." [DELETE] responded, "Yeah." [DELETE] advised that during several of her interactions with EPSTEIN she was "drugged", which was "not fine, but better than being sober" with respect to the sexual abuse she endured by him and his associates. [DELETE] remembered that once she began introducing EPSTEIN to girls she met on the
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beach, he and [DELETE] seemed to come to an understanding. The situation, while still horrible, did not seem as horrible. In EPSTEIN's subsequent interactions with her she felt like he looked at her as a,"good girl." He acted as though he thought, "You're my good girl now." [DELETE] began thinking she had to, "eat or be eaten."
[DELETE] could not recall ever seeing another underage girl being abused during the time she knew EPSTEIN. She vaguely remembered hearing screaming and crying, but she was segregated and did not hang out with anyone. She reiterated that she did not talk to the girls or the men who associated with EPSTEIN. [DELETE] did not know whether there were "group setting" sex involving the girls. She was not asked or forced to participate more than one individual.
On more than one occasion while in EPSTEIN's company, [DELETE] observed a woman [around EPSTEIN's age at the time (30's)] present who did not appear to be Black or Caucasian, but had darker skin and long dark wavy hair. The woman did not appear to have a lot of money, nor did she appear to be in a relationship or married to any of EPSTEIN's associates. The woman may have been with EPSTEIN in some way. The woman never spoke to [DELETE] and gave off a, "cold feeling." [DELETE] was not aware of whether the woman abused any girls; however, she did not abuse [DELETE].
[DELETE] was "probably given drugs" on almost every interaction she had with EPSTEIN. She was always given alcohol and marijuana, and usually cocaine. EPSTEIN's drink of choice was gin and tonic. He enjoyed listening to Classical music, and he "blared" Neal Diamond.
Not long ago, [DELETE] friend and house mate, [DELETE], wore two different colognes in [DELETE] presence that she did not like. One specifically repulsed her. It "instantly put [her] back there." It was the, "same smell as JEFFREY [EPSTEIN]." In the interviewing Agents' presence, [DELETE] placed a call to [DELETE] in speakerphone mode. [DELETE] asked [DELETE] if he remembered her having a strong (negative) reaction to one of his colognes, and asked if he could tell her what the name of the cologne was. [DELETE] responded that he did remember that incident, and that he thought it was possibly "Grey Flannel" cologne. [DELETE] did not initially tell [DELETE] why the cologne
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repulsed her; however, she recently disclosed details of her abuse to [DELETE] and his wife, as well as why the cologne was relevant.
Investigating Agents inquired as to [DELETE] exposure to recent news media stories regarding EPSTEIN. [DELETE] advised at some point she "Googled" his name and "[DELETE] Island" to see whether any victims from the area had come forward. She thought she found one; however, the result she found was just a story about EPSTEIN that was previously published in the [DELETE] Island paper.
[DELETE] detailed a separate and possibly the sixth incident involving EPSTEIN. When [DELETE] was approximately 15 years old, she went to a Rick James concert with her friend [DELETE] and [DELETE] mother in Savannah, Georgia. EPSTEIN was at the concert and surprised her. When [DELETE] saw EPSTEIN she knew she had to go with him. She recalled EPSTEIN had a flask and "got her drunk". She was also high on marijuana. He kept her isolated at the concert so long that [DELETE] and [DELETE] mother left her, and drove back to [DELETE] Island. They later told [DELETE] they looked for her for a long period of time. She stated that she imagined they were terrified when they could not find her. [DELETE] could not recall the entire evening; however, she knew that EPSTEIN left her at some point, and she found herself walking around alone, high on marijuana. She kept thinking, "how am I going to get back to the Island. I've been left here, I have no way to get home." At some point while was walking around, the police picked her up. [DELETE] recalled thinking her mother was going to be "pissed" at her because she got her ears pierced. The police photographed her and kept her alone in a "real jail" cell. She could not remember whether they fingerprinted her, or if she was formally arrested. She did recall she ate really good fried chicken while in jail. At some point, her mother and brother, [DELETE], picked her up and drove her home.
[DELETE] recalled at least one incident in which EPSTEIN took her off of the Island when she was between 13 to 15 years old. He drove her and/or flew her to either New York or New Jersey. She was, "introduced to someone with money, money... It was Donald Trump." [DELETE] and EPSTEIN were with others, to include TRUMP, in a very tall building with huge rooms. TRUMP did not like [DELETE], "from the get-go, he didn't like that I was a boy-girl" (referencing a
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tomboy). [DELETE] could not recall the identities of the other individuals present; however, they all exited when TRUMP asked everyone to leave the room. TRUMP mentioned something to the effect of, "Let me teach you how little girls are supposed to be." TRUMP unzipped his pants and put [DELETE] head, "down to his penis". [DELETE], "bit the shit out of it." TRUMP struck [DELETE] and said words to the effect of, "get this little bitch the hell out of here." [DELETE] advised she bit TRUMP's penis because he disgusted her. "He had money, it reeked off of him." At that point, people reentered the room no further information provided). [DELETE] recalled a blond beautiful woman approaching her at some point that day after her interaction with TRUMP. The woman said, "let me give you a tip little girl about your breasts, wear a bra every night." Those words have stayed with her throughout the years.
[DELETE] got the feeling the relationship between EPSTEIN and TRUMP included a certain amount of jealousy. She thought TRUMP appeared jealous of EPSTEIN, but at some point, they ended up on level playing fields. TRUMP and EPSTEIN sometimes used the terms "fresh meat", "untainted" and "not jaded" while referring to girls. At the time she heard it, [DELETE] did not understand the term "not jaded". She subsequently looked up the word "jaded". [DELETE] stated she had two additional interactions with TRUMP, but she asked that the interview move on to a different subject for the time being.
[DELETE] discussed an additional interaction with EPSTEIN and his associates wherein EPSTEIN and the "group" brought acid (identities of additional individuals not provided). EPSTEIN asked [DELETE] if she knew anything about acid; she replied that she did not. He asked her to try it first, then tell her friends where the party was going to be. EPSTEIN gave [DELETE] some of the acid to give to her friends. She did not recall hearing about acid on the Island before EPSTEIN introduced it, but she recalled that after he did, acid "swept the Island."
Reflecting on the interactions she had with EPSTEIN up to that point, [DELETE] advised that while she continued to be sexually abused by him, she began to feel like EPSTEIN trusted her. The situation was "still horrific", but she began to feel important; he knew she was keeping his secrets, specifically the things he said in front of her.
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On one occasion, [DELETE] asked EPSTEIN, "why he (EPSTEIN) does those things to me?" EPSTEIN responded by disclosing he had been molested as a child by a "boy" in his family, and possibly his aunt. [DELETE] thought the boy was either an uncle or a cousin; he definitely mentioned abuse by both a male and female. EPSTEIN was starting to say intimate things about himself. He was sharing and it began to make her feel like she had some of the power. She recalled thinking at the time, "Wow, this is the same asshole who is horrible." EPSTEIN had two sides to his personality. Looking back on the situation now, [DELETE] stated EPSTEIN was, "probably grooming me." [DELETE], "got super fascinated" in the sexual acts that involved EPSTEIN being submissive to [DELETE]. She felt relieved to be the one not being abused. [DELETE] recalled they did not "mix" the sexual abuse, meaning the interactions wherein EPSTEIN physically abused [DELETE] were separate interactions than those that involved EPSTEIN being submissive to [DELETE]. Every time they entered a bedroom, sexual abuse of some sort was involved, and in general, every interaction included sexual abuse. The one exception was the concert in Georgia (detailed above). Even though EPSTEIN was alone at the concert, they did not have a place where he could engage in sexual activity with her.
When asked whether EPSTEIN had any notable sexual fetishes, [DELETE] advised he liked having "little rubber things" put into his anus, and, "he had (her] do it." [DELETE] recalled inserting a pencil, a big eraser, little rubber things, and a water bottle tube into EPSTEIN's anus for his sexual gratification. EPSTEIN liked to be violated and dominated. He wanted her to take control. She recalled he turned into a different person (personality), and since it was her first time experiencing that type of sexual behavior, she did not know what to do. EPSTEIN liked her to use a kitchen oil (instead of sexual lubricant) when she put things in his "butt". EPSTEIN told [DELETE] that when he was younger he could contort his body so that he could almost put his penis in his mouth. She asked him to show her and he tried, but was unsuccessful.
[DELETE] was asked whether EPSTEIN ever asked her to engage in "threesomes" (orgies). EPSTEIN always wanted [DELETE] to bring her friend; however, it never happened.
EPSTEIN spoke another language around [DELETE] once in a while. She believed the language may have been Hebrew. At this point in the interview, [DELETE]
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imitated the sound of the language she recalled EPSTEIN speaking indicating it included a throat-clearing guttural sound. She was unaware of whether EPSTEIN was Jewish. She knew the language he spoke was not Italian.
EPSTEIN talked about blackmailing people in front of [DELETE]. [DELETE] was confident TRUMP knew EPSTEIN blackmailed people because she heard EPSTEIN and TRUMP talking about it. [DELETE] stated she knew TRUMP had illegal building permits. She heard him (TRUMP) talking about washing money through casinos. Number 6 is Donald Trump's favorite number. [DELETE] was not sure how she knew that, but she had heard it at one point. [DELETE] stated that EPSTEIN's blackmailing of her mother, "ruined my family".
[DELETE] asked the Agents to keep her safe stating, "Throughout my life his (EPSTEIN's) people have found me... have kept tabs on me."